July 8, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys and talk about the constant coverage of Bronny James as he continues to be unimpressive in the G-League, how he compares to Caitlin Clark, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
to you all, Good morning to you, Jeff Schwartz. I'll
tell you what, man, I understand. I get it, fully
aware why Bronnie James is a story.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Lebron is a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, but Jeff, it is the life and times of
Bronnie James right now. I'm surprised we haven't had a
news like breaking news bulletin or something of like Bronnie
James just scratched his left eyebrow or something.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Swung on his knee. Brian let him be Okay, Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, but it's I understand right, it's hey. Here's a
video of his first bucket in the Summer League. Okay,
here's a video of his second bucket. Those were his
only two buckets. Here's reaction. Here's Lebron watching the video.
Was first bucket Bronnie's got the knee issue. We got
to have a sit down interview with lebron about Bronni
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not caring about negativity. It's over the top, man, and
it's not gonna slow down anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Would you rather actual media focus on on baseball right now?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, that's part of it too, is there's not a
whole lot else going on.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Maybe they can focus on trying to deposit money into
your gambling accounts to make all the wagers that our
friend Bill Krackenberger keeps sending us, because I, buddy, that's
how I'm gonna spend my morning. It's finding money in
my in my checking account to send over to my
old some of my apps to make these wagers that
our friend keep sending us. Look, it's that time of
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year where you're sort of you know, you got Baseball
All Star Game coming up next week, and you have
this year, for the first time ever, we have w
n B A right, Yeah, we have you know, some
soccer now internationally to talk about. I don't think anyone
tunes into me to hear me break down Uruguay Columbia
on Wednesday night, and you know, we just uh we're
(02:15):
counting down to football. This is the this is the
final countdown, you know, after fourth of July, it feels
like football is coming soon, and so we have to just, Brian,
we have to get there. We're we're and and we're
getting there by talking about Bronnie and w n B
A which which actually is incredible to watch right now,
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and a wager on by the way. We've been doing
both of that, Me and you. We're we're, we're you know,
we're we're getting ourselves prepped for for football, and we're
doing it by talking about everything else.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We're inching our way closer and closer to football being back.
And in the meantime, I guess it is blow by
freaking blow updates on the life and times of Bronnie James.
And you mentioned the w NB Jeff, That's where my
mind went. Where I'm thinking, if you compare the coverage
and the reaction to the coverage of Bronnie James and
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also Caitlyn Clark, it's funny how different it is because
if you look at Caitlyn Clark, she's a baller. She's
the all time women's college basketball point total. God if
you will, right, Like, she scored the most points, but
WNBA players hate on her. But if you look at Bronnie, meanwhile,
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he's a fringe NBA player who's getting a ton of
coverage and there are no, thankfully no NBA players that
are hating on him. I don't hear anything of like
Dalton connect saying, hey, did you see my summer league debut?
Pretty good hunt no coverage on my end or any
other NBA rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
No one's hating on Bronnie and that's great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Meanwhile, Caitlyn, she just posted the first triple double in
WNBA history by a roo key, and think about all
the negativity not from the outside but like fellow w
NBA players hating on her, it's funny, like Kennedy Carter
posted a few weeks ago, besides three point shooting, what
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does she bring to the table?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Man, It's like, well, it's kind.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Of hard to record a triple double if you're just
scoring points, you're just shooting threes. But it's just funny
how Caitlin and Bronnie are looked at talked about differently,
and the players themselves, how they've reacted much differently to
both of those players.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, I think one of them is obviously respect to
to Lebron James, right, Like this state's respectful and they know.
Like here's the thing, too, is Brian. There's no debate
about Brownie Jr. Like nobody thinks Brinie Junior is a
good NBA player or possibly will be good, Like there's
no debate to be had, right, there's no like so
just say nice things. Yeah, you know he's a good player,
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Like there's no there's no debate to be had, right,
And you're right about Kaylin Clark. There's no debate to
be had there. But at least there's a little bit
of leeway where it's like, Okay, we have a young
woman who's coming into WNBA. We've seen, you know, players
of her caliber struggle as rookies, and with Angel Reeves
playing as well as she is, there's maybe some discussion
about Rookie of the Year, Like there's at least something
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that's sort of debate, whether you think it's right or wrong.
There's no debate with Brownie. It's just like cool, he's
he's in the NBA. Summar lygue awesome, Like I think
that's part of it. There's nothing to discuss with people
just to fall to be nice because they like his dad,
you know, and the player. The players I think do
respect Lebron. His agency, Clutch Sports and Rich Paul are
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very powerful. You know. I didn't getting on their bad side.
It's probably not good. So why why bother with the
debate because there's not much a debate and everyone agrees
on it, or at least with Kayln Clark, I'm with you.
I think that's been overly harsh. I will say though
her play I think has changed the minds of a
lot of players. If you look the reactions recently after
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they beat the Mercury and Phoenix down at Tarassi was
way more positive in her comments about k Clark. We've
seen when they play the Aces that the reaction from
the Aces players to Kayln Clark has been way more positive.
We're just I think seeing more and more players respect her,
and I do think there was a level, and we
(06:22):
talked about this when we've posted other shows. I think
it's certainly true, and I as a former NFL player,
I understand the sentiment where you see someone like Kayln
Clark who is not physically imposing, right, She's just she
doesn't She's not a player that like looks a certain way.
She just looks like she just plays basketball, not not
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necessarily ripped or or like you know, jacked up right,
not physically imposing, and makes a ton of threes. And
I think that there was veterans saying, hey, man, when
she gets to this league, I'm more physical than her,
I'm bigger, I'm stronger, and the league is more physical
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than she thinks. All she did in college was more about,
you know, just the finesse of the college game, and
not her her actual skill set. And I think the
players thought themselves as well, like, look, man, she has
not played in our league. Why she getting praise already
in our league? I know what you did in college
was impressive, but our league, she's done nothing. And I'm
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gonna make sure that that stays that way. I understand
those thoughts, but Brian, I think we're seeing to change
because I mean, she's averaging like sixteen and six and seven.
I mean, like, yeah, the turnovers are high. If you
watch her play, some aer on her and the other
summer on her teammates that can't catch. So I do
think that people are respecting her a little bit more.
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The Rookie of Year conversation is gonna be super gross.
I mean, we had a national voice come out and say,
I'm voting for Angelis because her team has a better record.
Well right, not Kemaon Clarkston was a better record. So
are you now switching your to Kaylyn Clark? How about
you just vote for the player who's better. Better? It
seems like a simple thing to do. They're just making
up ways to vote. I mean, right now, the Indiana
(08:10):
Fever have a better winning percentage, they play two more
games than the Sky. But in this in your mind, right,
that's what you said, right, you said that I'm voting
for the Angelies because she has her team in a
better spot than the standings. Well now, now Clayton Clark
does they just beat the seventeen to three Liberty. It's
that That's why I think with Browny, it's just accepted, like, yeah,
(08:31):
let's let's share the mom on why not? It's not
going to make the NBA or Karen Clark at least
are some some room for debate.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, It's just there's this feeling that has existed and
I think still exists to your point, maybe not to
the same degree because Caitlyn is proving herself in the WNBA,
She's been productive, but there's been this sense of, hey,
why is Caitlyn getting this amount of coverage and this
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amount of love And if you look at the ratings,
it's crazy. Caitlin's games this season they've averaged one point
one eight million viewers and all the other games have
averaged four hundred and twenty eight thousand viewers, so it's
way more than double with Caitlin Clark. So it's like, well,
that's one of the biggest reasons, Like, the coverage goes
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where the ratings go.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's why you're not going to see NonStop NHL debates
and topics and all that type of coverage because the
ratings aren't there. That's why you're going to see NonStop
NFL coverage. That's where it goes. But it's just funny
that argument or that feeling of why is she getting
this amount of attention that would be better served for
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Bronnie James. It's like, we know why because of lebron
But if you're going to make that argument, it would
be better applied if you're doing that with Bronni who
didn't even average five points last season at u UC.
I could understand that a whole lot more like why
are we doing blow by blow updates of Browny? That
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would make more sense that, Hey, why is Caitlin getting
this amount of attention. It's like it's pretty obvious why
she was a baller in college. Now she's doing work
in the WNBA and the ratings are following her.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's why have.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
We seen NBA Summer League ratings? Are they? Are they?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ca?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You watch these games? That's how much I know about.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, you could watch them. You might have to sift
a little bit. I was, I was watching and I
texted you last night.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh yeah, they didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It was Team China against the like Charlotte Hornet's team
maybe C team, and Team China was a fifty and
a half point underdog, and Jeff, you were like, basically,
you got to take the points and that was the
right side. It was Team China all day. They didn't
get blown out by fifty one, not even close. It's
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like half of that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I can't go that game a chance in Charlotte. I
think it was in Charlotte to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't think so. I think it was in Sacramento.
It's like they did a double header in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I don't know what was going on that it was
in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah it was. I don't know if there's some mini
tournament or something going. I don't know it was.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, it was ninety three. I here is I'm gonna
look up the Hornets roster. Is there a a oh boy?
I don't know any Yeah, I know a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Of I watched a little bit of it because I
was just fascinated, like, is team China gonna lose by
fifty one to like a Hornets seed team?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And they didn't. But there was no one from Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I recognize Bryce McGowan's Leaky Black.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I recognize that name, but what a great name?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Nick Smith Junior, Xavier Simpson or the four had the
four most minutes for the Hornets, the Matt Morgan, Brandon Slater.
I mean, some of these guys you can't even click
on their name. They don't have profiles at NBA dol come,
there's not a link. There's not a link to their name. So,
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I mean, the Chinese starting lineup was minus thirty in
a point in a plus minus. Not not great, not
great there, but the Warriors beat the Lakers, though, I'm
gonna see that that's a that's a big, big, big
result last night.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I see, Yeah, it's uh, it's just funny to me
because Dalton Connect could be like a real role player
for the Lakers, and he had a nice debut, But
the coverage is.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like, ah, here's a basket by Dalton on the other.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Things to be good. They need him, like he's the
guy type of player that they really need to be good.
Just suck someone to score the basket, you know, more
reliably than than D'Angel Russell in the postseason. You know,
they need someone to take the burn off Lebron and Ad.
You know, those guys during the regular season aren't to
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play as much as they get older, right, and so
having a guy that connected, if you got to put
up you know, twenty twenty four points a game like him,
that just it's so helpful for your team. They need
him to be they need him to be good obviously
more than Bronny. Bronnie. Look, I said when he was drafted.
I thought it was a great story, Brian. I think
it's a testament of Lebron's career that he's able to
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play long enough for son to get drafted, Like it's
just a hat tip to him, right you his son
is drafted fifty fifth overall. It's not a draft picked off.
It makes the team. But but I said, I would
a reserve judgment on the whole thing until we see
what Lebron's roster status is, and that to put him
on the roster essentially is kind of a ludicrous like
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like that's where you're taking a spot from someone that's
most likely most likely earn that spot. I understand people say, well,
it's just a twelfth spot. I mean, does it really
matter to make Lebron happy? I think at this point again,
training camp invite draft saying you're drafted like those things
are are to me minuscule and overall impact on how
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we feel about, you know, a player making a team
or not like that. It's just a great story, you know,
I think it really is. But him just getting a
roster small without earning it, that's where I think we're
that God's not gonna sit as well in the locker room.
That's not going to says around around the NBA. It's
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going to lead more to the idea that you know
lebron runs the Lakers, which I think is hard to
deny sometimes, but like his son making the roster already
without having proven anything, that's where I think we I
have an issue with this whole process.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think that if you look at Giannis with the
Bucks and his brother Tanasas, who has no business on roster,
you know he is, He's the Darko Milicics. Remember when
al Michaels used to say he's the human victory cigar.
Oh yeah, who had Milichi would get in there for
the Pistons, Like that's what Tanasas is. He is the
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human victory cigar. But hey, to a bes Yan you
have his brother on the team, I get it. Like
it's happened before, so I really don't have an issue
with it. I totally understand what you're explaining where Bronnie
already given a roster spot. It's kind of like, uh uh,
I really don't have an issue with it. It's happened before.
You can find other examples, So I'm not like a
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hater across the board with the story like oh it's nepotism,
and yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Really not like that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think overall the story is pretty cool where we've
never had a father and son in the league at
the same time, let alone be teammates. So there's gonna
be some fun special moments as far as that goes.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's just the coverage is non freaking stop.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's like, do we have to overdo it to this degree?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But hey man, there's not a ton going on, So
I guess I guess the suits at ESPN are like.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, you better do a Bronny story here. What else
are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Goodness, I will say that, you know, I do some
and podcasting and stuff for Fox Sports, right, Brian, And
you'd be surprised when it's like this time of year
and they're like, we kind of just needed to write
something that people are gonna read. Just walk about the Cowboys, Yeah,
(16:14):
hey Colorado, just talk about their win total. Yeah, it
does play man like, it does play like your the
ability for some of these brands and players and teams
to get eyeballs no matter what time of year it is,
and the name lebron James, Browny James, I mean, I
think there also is a fascination because you mentioned he
didn't start at USC. Now, part of that could be
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he had, you know, a medical emergency at USC and
UH in training camp. I believe it was maybe before
training camp, and maybe that's that kind of slowed down
his ability to start for them this season. But USC
was good for their standards last year, so maybe he
wasn't gonna play anyways. But you know, I think there's
a fascination of like, you know, is is he gonna
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average four points in the summer league or is he
gonna get seventeen eighteen, twenty points where you know, if
he's averaging in the high you know, double digits, right,
that's the wrong way to put it, like in the
high teens. Let's say, ye I think you think like, okay,
well man, maybe not but four points you're like, yeah,
that's I mean, I think that's you know, four points
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ain't great.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's not a great sign. Not a great sign. Right there.
I come it up. Next, we turn our attention to ball.
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Not quite a ball buffet today, Jeff, but a lot
of NFL slash college coverage here. We got I think this,
we got to dive into this when it comes to
the upcoming NFL season. There is a major factor that
you would be a fool to Overlook, we'll get into that.
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the NFL season not that far away, Jeff. And there
is one thing I think you got to keep in mind,
and it's I think it's easy to overlook whether you're
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a gambler and you're thinking about betting on season win
totals or who's gonna win the division or anything like that,
It's really important to keep in mind that the AFC
this year, those teams have eight home games. NFC teams
they have nine home games, right, so we play seventeen
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games right now in the NFL. It's an odd number
and it shifts from year to year who gets more
home games as a conference. So if you're thinking about
the Buffalo Bills, for instance, and their season win total
is ten and a half wins, you got to remember
that they play nine road games, and if you look
at the road games that they have, Jeff, it is
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not an easy road I'll just rattle it off again,
all road games for the Bills. They take on the Dolphins,
then there are three straight road games. Get this at
Baltimore Sunday night at Houston at the Jets on Monday
night on the road, and then they also have on
the road the Seahawks, the Colts, the Rams, the Lions,
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and then way at the end of the schedule in
week eighteen at the Patriots, where that should be their
easiest game. But yeah, eight of those nine road games
are tough games. So if you're looking at Buffalo and
you're thinking about, oh, they're gonna get to eleven wins,
I'll take over ten and a half when they've got
nine road games against that path with all the talent
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they lost.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I like Buffalo's under ten and a half wins this season.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
The road homeling is pretty fascinating to me and Brian
because I feel like, you know, you know a lot
of years we've watched football that seems to have mattered
a lot home road splits. Right, that's what the Chiefs
did this post is I know. And just we've continued
to see the spread. Right, the number for a standard
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and a game right when bothams even was three, Right,
the home thing was favored by three points, and that
was because of home fit events they used to determine
that was three points. Now it's like two point and
a half maybe in the NFL. Brian, I don't know
how much that matters anymore just on its own. I mean,
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you know, depending on like what time of year you play,
the teams at the weather, the amount of road trips
in a row, the amount of miles you're going. That
to me feels like it matter is more than just saying, Okay,
the Bills have or anyone has one more road game,
therefore their record is going to be this.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I wouldn't say, hey, one more road game, you know,
fade them. There are going to be AFC teams that
go over their season win total, for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
But it's just.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Something that you could overlook, yes, and it could come
back to bite you. Right, Like, put it this way,
it could be the swing between the Bills winning eleven
games or winning ten games, and if you're go betting
over or under ten and a half, that that's a
key game. It could be late in the season at
the Lions, right if you're giving me a choice, if
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I'll put it this way, if I've got a Bills
over ten and a half wins ticket, I would rather
that a December game against the Lions was in Buffalo
than in Detroit. It doesn't mean that they're gonna lose automatically,
but I'd rather have that be a home game.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You know, the win total market for me over the years, Brian.
You know, I think it's really hard to take an
over win total for college football a little bit easier
than the NFL when it comes to like any win
total that's over you know, winning sixty percent of your games.
You're like, if someone has a nine and a half
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ten and a half win total in the NFL, man,
I feel like it's taking under in these some of
these win totals is so much easier to swallow than
saying X team's gonna have thirteen wins or twelve wins.
You know, like the college football is a little bit
different because the schedule and we know sort of the
caliber of team each and every year. You don't have
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as many surprises, or in the NFL you just have
some years. You know, injuries play a toll. Some of
your teams are just better because rookies hit, you know,
sooner than we think they're gonna hit. And taking any
team to win eleven twelve games the NFL in a
season long future just feels very hard to win those
wagers every year.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it's a good point because I don't know about you.
I would imagine this is the same you want to
bet on teams where you could make a good argument
that this is going to be the way it plays out.
You know, that's typically how you bet. But to what
you're explaining, if you're taking a season win total under
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like some of it, you're banking on the craziness of
a season just happening for the wrong way for a team,
like right, Like, if you look at the Bills, you
could say, hey, man, they might get banged up, and
they're thinner than they used to be. They lost a
lot of talent in the off season, a lot on
that roster. It's like, if the injury bug hits them
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a little bit with the step back that they've taken,
they're not getting to eleven wins. And that might not
be an argument that makes you feel great, where it's like, yeah,
they could get hurt, Yeah, everybody can get hurt, but
when they're thinner like that, I think it makes more
sense to apply that argument to the Bills. You're right,
it is it's very hard to get to eleven wins
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in the NFL, and I think when you have that
extra road game, that's something else that I look at
and say, it's at least even harder to get there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, it is. It's a really good point. It's it's
easier to selling your brain. For those who gamble a lot,
this makes more sense than those who don't, because I
think I think a lot of people are very optimistic
all the time about you know, what they're you know,
what their favorite team can do, or what they're wager
like it's but this, but you're it's easier. It's a
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much easier selling your brain to be like tough road games,
roster attrition, injuries here and there under you know, like
it's just it's a much easier sell than for me
than being like, okay, well everything has to go well,
they have to like you know, like it just it
just doesn't. The NFL doesn't do it doesn't do that,
you know, it doesn't just always go well for you. Now,
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if you're a team like the Cardinals, who I think
I think the win till six and a half, I
think they could mean over. Like I like, I think
taking a team that is has a low win total
and going over is a much more comfortable bet than
taking ten and a half your win total team and
saying they're gonna win twelve games.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you on that. That's where it
seemed like the the Giants, I think they're at six
and a half. Also, our guy Crack sports handicapper, he
loves the under but I and I I thought that
made a lot more sense. I read all this NFL
stuff and I don't know who I read, but the
person writing was like, they won six games last year.
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I know Daniel Jones isn't fantastic, he's far from it,
but he was gone for most of the year and
they still won six games, and it's like they're gonna
win some games ugly. They picked up Brian Burns to
go with your guy Cavon Thibodeau. It's like they're gonna
win a couple of games, like seventeen to thirteen and
it's gonna be gross. But could they scratch out seven wins?
(26:29):
Be seven and ten? Yeah they could. Initially I'm like, yeah,
I love it, But.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
They won six games somehow, some way last season.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
This is what makes so so much fun to talk
about these things, Right, Brian, is that the end of
the season. Some of these games it don't matter. Yeah,
it's so hard to determine how much that matters for
the next season because you know, like you don't just
have to look at I don't think you look at
last year or the year before. This is why the
(26:59):
NFL is is such a unique sport, because I think
that each individual year is its own, it is its
own thing, it's its own you know, you can't often
I don't think you can look at last year or
look forward like the year right now. Just you have
to look at what data you have right now. That's
roster you have now is because you have now. I
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don't think you can look at last season for the
most part, because think about how much teams change because
of free agency, coaching changes, and and just the overall
landscape of the league changes a year by year. It's
a very year by year league. And so yeah, the
Giants won x amount of games last year with quote
unquote nobody healthy and nobody on the roster. The roster
still isn't very good. Yeah, And and because of the
(27:43):
scheduling of the NFL, it's a they try to make
it even right, you play your division, you play a
division in the NFC division AFC, and then you have
one other crossover game between the between conferences, and then
you have the two other games you match up with
the with the team in the division you don't play
(28:04):
in the NFC or a FC in the same record, right,
I mean, the same finish in that division. So I
try to make it fair. But you might get the
wrong division one year, Brian, and that you know, that's
different than last year where the Giants. But I had
an easier division to play, right, and so it's hard
to me to always look at last year. One example
of this that I'm finding is I think I'm going
(28:26):
to take the Steelers win total under this season and
and bet on the Steelers being under five hundred for
the first time of Mike Thomas coaching. Correctial think the
team is as good right now as they've been in
previous years. And I'll just offensively, it's just almost a
straight afraid of Russell Wilson justin fields. I they're just
not good. They're not good. They they're safe.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You see their workout video.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Of course, they're like they they have the third best
quarterback room in the division. Maybe it's probably fourth. If
Deshaun Watson just was a little bit better. Steeler fans
will say to me, and they have, we're five and
one in the division last season, Well, what are those
five wins? Two against the Bengals with no Joe Burrow
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and the Ravens in Week eighteen resting everyone. So you
really went two and one in the division, you know,
like you can't look at last season. Yeah, to preview,
in my opinion, to preview the next season. It just
the NFL is so year to year that that's why
I approach the wind totals is I just look at
the season we have right now. I look at at
(29:32):
at who's playing, what the rosters are, what your schedule is,
and then figure it out from there.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it's interesting. I look at it a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm not gonna say one season bleeds into the next
one like a crazy amount, but I do think there
are some things that you could take and apply to
the next season where there it is different. There's no
doubt about that. The rosters change, person l is different.
But some teams, like the Giants, Again, Daniel Jones is
(30:04):
not fantastic. I would never tell you he is.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But they had Tommy Cutlets for a little bit they
had to cutlets I remember, yeah, like they beat the
Packers at home, you know what I mean? Like they
six wins somehow.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Look, I don't want to be there's there's no there's
no absolutes, right, So I can't say that I don't
look at last season to preview a little bit of
this year. But to me, it's more about the coaching
staff and specific improve like for example, the Packers, right,
Like you have to look at the way they finished
last season to be excited about this season. Absolutely, But again,
(30:40):
you know, I'm not going to look at them and think, oh,
they wont X amount games last year, that's what they're
gonna do this year. I look at their improvements in
Jordan Love in the back half of the season and
think to myself, Okay, you know he could he should
be played better this year. Right, it's another year as
a starter. But I think people get way too caught up.
I know you're not this way and the win lost
record of the previous season. It's about process, It's about coaching.
(31:05):
It's about you know, improving of your quarterback, your personnel,
your coordinators, far more than what you're just winning. Lost
record was the previous.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Season, No no doubt about that.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
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Speaker 1 (31:35):
Thank you, Eddie, that's funny too, mentioning Djokovic. Where it's funny.
We were talking about all the coverage with Brona and
then it's like, oh, wow, jokers still in Wimbledon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm getting that big.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I thought I think Eddie's a Steelers fan. I thought
he was gonna rip my take on the stats. Immediately,
I thought, I just go right at me.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, No, he just rips me. I noticed, Eddie comes
from my throat. But it's true. He's very very respectful.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How's my Steelers take? Are we are? We are we
feeling the love this year for the Russell Wilson justin
Hilt's situation. Not for me. Okay, I'm not a fan
of it. Yeah, I think I think everyone just defaultse
to Mike Tomlins, a really good coach, and we just
like give him the respect he deserves. But it feels
like this is the year when the under five hundred
it finally happens.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It might, and it's along the same lines as what
you're thinking with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh has the cachet,
the credentials, but they don't have the roster right now.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, I'm making a little bit of the time as well.
I'm over by the way on MLB starting Paul Schimes.
If you don't start him in the All Star Game,
you guys are dummies, like you you have he has
to be your starting pitcher. He is he It has
to happen, right, Baseball has to start him.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense to
do so why not. I mean, it's an exhibition game.
Highlight a young star.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You know, absolutely you need to have these young stars
and highlight them if you're baseball Baseball has a problem
with not high with not with with with the public
not knowing your young baseball players. Right, they have to me,
they have to start them, just have them like face
o tawny three times in a row and just be
done with it, like you have to. You have to
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start them.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, it's what if you start anybody else, who's gonna
give you as much sizzle as starting Paul's skins, you
know what I mean? Like there isn't anybody because this
is new with skins. Uh, So you get more bang
for your bucket you start him. It'd be better for
baseball if he's to start, be.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Better for baseball. And you need to actually have him
wear his actual jersey whatever these baseball I love baseball
and I'm always gonna watch. But the fact that baseball
decided that these you know, these whatever custom all star
jerseys for each game is a good idea is ludicrous.
(33:57):
We baseball, as we know it has a marketing problem.
They don't market their stars terribly well. It's a sport
that it needs people to learn about their stars and
and to know who they are. And then in the
game when all the stars are featured, they wear generic uniforms,
so we can't tell who is who. But it makes
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you know, you have a you know, look, we know
who these players are. We watch them play, but like
to not have one Sodo in a Yankees uniform on
National TV, and it's it seems it seems completely silly
to me.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I hear you on that absolutely I it just
and and you know, baseball has some great uniforms.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They are a pretty uniform. We have teams that all
wear white at home, except the Giants where cream. I
think it is everyone has a great uniform, Like it
makes a lot of sense to just have everyone wear
their uniform that they wear during the regular season. I
do not understand Baseball's insistence. And they're ugly too, Like
they're not even good they're even good looking All Star uniforms.
They're just super ugly every year. Yeah, go back to
(35:02):
letting him wear their home uniforms or way uniforms. Do
we know what team they play on? Not we the
public knows what team they play on. I think it's
to show you that they do not do that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I like it. I like the strong baseball take.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right there, I've got oh, I have a betting horror
story to share with you betting wise a little bit
later in the show.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You'll get a kick out of this.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian No.
We're in for two bros and a cup of Joe here. So,
conference realignment in college football it's official in July. Here
we've got Oklahoma Texas heading to the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
They're there now. That's where they're at.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Jeff, and I think Texas in particular, who was a
playoff team last year. I'm fixated on their season win total.
Here it's at ten and a half, Jeff, ten and
a half wins. And I look at this and it's like, Okay,
if they lose against Georgia, which is quite possible, they
have to run the table with their other eleven games.
(36:34):
They're not gonna get tripped up anywhere on this schedule.
And it's not Murderer's row, but the depth of the SEC,
the NFL talent that you have to face, and none
of these last four teams won more than seven games
last season, but just collectively one week after another Florida
(36:55):
at Arkansas, Kentucky at Texas.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean to Georgia, I just don't see how they
go eleven and zer with the rest of the schedule
being what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I mean you're basically you're basically saying they're gonna
I mean, beat Georgia, right if you take the over
right and then you gi himself's one game for like
an oopsie. I mean that's college football, right once a year,
just like the idea I mentioned the NFL, like taking
someone over ten and a half wins in college football,
(37:27):
I means terrified because of the sport. You know, like
unless your schedule is just so easy and your depth
of your team is so high. There's there's really two
teams that have high wind totals that I feel comfortable
with taking their over. Well, one, to be fair, I
(37:51):
won that's Notre Dame because their schedule is a joke.
You're Irish, Brian have Like if they do not go over,
it's ten and a half. I mean Freedmom might be fired.
I mean, this no name schedule is just atrocious this season,
and I think that, I mean, eleven and one seems
(38:11):
very very doable. For those who don't know. It's at
Texas A and M who's a new coach, Mike elco
n I U pradue Miami of Ohio Louisville. Okay, so
that's in those games. The last tour at home off Stanford,
Georgia Tech Navy. What a murderers are there? Another bye
(38:32):
week host, another name t assume host of Florida State
team that I do not think is going to be
terribly good this year, not compared to Lasses, and they're
gonna step back. I just don't think dju is a
quarterback and they have one returning starter on defense. I
believe Virginia Army USC. They might get themselves that what's
(38:53):
the trophy, the Commander's Trophy that the military canademies for
playing each other. They might just get themselves for beating
Army and Navy. Put air force in there and then
you get the trifecta. This schedules a joke. It's not
their fault, but like they're going to go eleven and one.
If not, Marcus Freeman has a problem, right, And the
(39:16):
other one that I think is sort of fascinating to
me for the over because again like Oregon's ten and
a half, Liberty is ten and a half, Ohio State's
ten and a half, George's town a half, TENNAS ten
and a half is Miami at over nine and a
half is juice to the under. Their schedules pretty easy too.
They got a good team. Like, it's just it's hard
to take these big numbers over.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You have to hope that everything goes well.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, and I think Texas in particular, in a new
conference year one and they just go eleven and one.
I had good luck, good luck when you still have Oklahoma, right,
you play Oklahoma at a neutral site, you have Georgia.
The rest of it is manageable. Michigan is going to
take a step back. That's a road game for Texas
(39:59):
in the non conf friends, I just don't I don't
see them beating Georgia and I don't see them going
eleven and one outside of that at all.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I love the under.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'm with you, I just don't see I just don't
see it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, it's hard to see all right.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Coming up next, which team should be favored to win
each division.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
We'll dive into that
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to you all, Good morning to you, Jeff Schwartz. I'll
tell you what, man, I understand. I get it, fully
aware why Bronnie James is a story.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Lebron is a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, but Jeff, it is the life and times of
Bronnie James right now. I'm surprised we haven't had a
news like breaking news bulletin or something of like Bronnie
James just scratched his left eyebrow or something.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Swung on his knee. Brian let him be Okay, Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, but it's I understand right, it's hey. Here's a
video of his first bucket in the Summer League. Okay,
here's a video of his second bucket. Those were his
only two buckets. Here's reaction. Here's Lebron watching the video.
Was first bucket Bronnie's got the knee issue. We got
to have a sit down interview with lebron about Bronni
(01:14):
not caring about negativity. It's over the top, man, and
it's not gonna slow down anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Would you rather actual media focus on on baseball right now?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, that's part of it too, is there's not a
whole lot else going on.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Maybe they can focus on trying to deposit money into
your gambling accounts to make all the wagers that our
friend Bill Krackenberger keeps sending us, because I, buddy, that's
how I'm gonna spend my morning. It's finding money in
my in my checking account to send over to my
old some of my apps to make these wagers that
our friend keep sending us. Look, it's that time of
(01:52):
year where you're sort of you know, you got Baseball
All Star Game coming up next week, and you have
this year, for the first time ever, we have w
n B A right, Yeah, we have you know, some
soccer now internationally to talk about. I don't think anyone
tunes into me to hear me break down Uruguay Columbia
on Wednesday night, and you know, we just uh we're
(02:15):
counting down to football. This is the this is the
final countdown, you know, after fourth of July, it feels
like football is coming soon, and so we have to just, Brian,
we have to get there. We're we're and and we're
getting there by talking about Bronnie and w n B
A which which actually is incredible to watch right now,
(02:36):
and a wager on by the way. We've been doing
both of that, Me and you. We're we're, we're you know,
we're we're getting ourselves prepped for for football, and we're
doing it by talking about everything else.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We're inching our way closer and closer to football being back.
And in the meantime, I guess it is blow by
freaking blow updates on the life and times of Bronnie James.
And you mentioned the w NB Jeff, That's where my
mind went. Where I'm thinking, if you compare the coverage
and the reaction to the coverage of Bronnie James and
(03:09):
also Caitlyn Clark, it's funny how different it is because
if you look at Caitlyn Clark, she's a baller. She's
the all time women's college basketball point total. God if
you will, right, Like, she scored the most points, but
WNBA players hate on her. But if you look at Bronnie, meanwhile,
(03:32):
he's a fringe NBA player who's getting a ton of
coverage and there are no, thankfully no NBA players that
are hating on him. I don't hear anything of like
Dalton connect saying, hey, did you see my summer league debut?
Pretty good hunt no coverage on my end or any
other NBA rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
No one's hating on Bronnie and that's great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Meanwhile, Caitlyn, she just posted the first triple double in
WNBA history by a roo key, and think about all
the negativity not from the outside but like fellow w
NBA players hating on her, it's funny, like Kennedy Carter
posted a few weeks ago, besides three point shooting, what
(04:14):
does she bring to the table?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Man, It's like, well, it's kind.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Of hard to record a triple double if you're just
scoring points, you're just shooting threes. But it's just funny
how Caitlin and Bronnie are looked at talked about differently,
and the players themselves, how they've reacted much differently to
both of those players.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, I think one of them is obviously respect to
to Lebron James, right, Like this state's respectful and they know.
Like here's the thing, too, is Brian. There's no debate
about Brownie Jr. Like nobody thinks Brinie Junior is a
good NBA player or possibly will be good, Like there's
no debate to be had, right, there's no like so
just say nice things. Yeah, you know he's a good player,
(04:59):
Like there's no there's no debate to be had, right,
And you're right about Kaylin Clark. There's no debate to
be had there. But at least there's a little bit
of leeway where it's like, Okay, we have a young
woman who's coming into WNBA. We've seen, you know, players
of her caliber struggle as rookies, and with Angel Reeves
playing as well as she is, there's maybe some discussion
about Rookie of the Year, Like there's at least something
(05:20):
that's sort of debate, whether you think it's right or wrong.
There's no debate with Brownie. It's just like cool, he's
he's in the NBA. Summar lygue awesome, Like I think
that's part of it. There's nothing to discuss with people
just to fall to be nice because they like his dad,
you know, and the player. The players I think do
respect Lebron. His agency, Clutch Sports and Rich Paul are
(05:41):
very powerful. You know. I didn't getting on their bad side.
It's probably not good. So why why bother with the
debate because there's not much a debate and everyone agrees
on it, or at least with Kayln Clark, I'm with you.
I think that's been overly harsh. I will say though
her play I think has changed the minds of a
lot of players. If you look the reactions recently after
(06:02):
they beat the Mercury and Phoenix down at Tarassi was
way more positive in her comments about k Clark. We've
seen when they play the Aces that the reaction from
the Aces players to Kayln Clark has been way more positive.
We're just I think seeing more and more players respect her,
and I do think there was a level, and we
(06:22):
talked about this when we've posted other shows. I think
it's certainly true, and I as a former NFL player,
I understand the sentiment where you see someone like Kayln
Clark who is not physically imposing, right, She's just she
doesn't She's not a player that like looks a certain way.
She just looks like she just plays basketball, not not
(06:44):
necessarily ripped or or like you know, jacked up right,
not physically imposing, and makes a ton of threes. And
I think that there was veterans saying, hey, man, when
she gets to this league, I'm more physical than her,
I'm bigger, I'm stronger, and the league is more physical
(07:05):
than she thinks. All she did in college was more about,
you know, just the finesse of the college game, and
not her her actual skill set. And I think the
players thought themselves as well, like, look, man, she has
not played in our league. Why she getting praise already
in our league? I know what you did in college
was impressive, but our league, she's done nothing. And I'm
(07:27):
gonna make sure that that stays that way. I understand
those thoughts, but Brian, I think we're seeing to change
because I mean, she's averaging like sixteen and six and seven.
I mean, like, yeah, the turnovers are high. If you
watch her play, some aer on her and the other
summer on her teammates that can't catch. So I do
think that people are respecting her a little bit more.
(07:49):
The Rookie of Year conversation is gonna be super gross.
I mean, we had a national voice come out and say,
I'm voting for Angelis because her team has a better record.
Well right, not Kemaon Clarkston was a better record. So
are you now switching your to Kaylyn Clark? How about
you just vote for the player who's better. Better? It
seems like a simple thing to do. They're just making
up ways to vote. I mean, right now, the Indiana
(08:10):
Fever have a better winning percentage, they play two more
games than the Sky. But in this in your mind, right,
that's what you said, right, you said that I'm voting
for the Angelies because she has her team in a
better spot than the standings. Well now, now Clayton Clark
does they just beat the seventeen to three Liberty. It's
that That's why I think with Browny, it's just accepted, like, yeah,
(08:31):
let's let's share the mom on why not? It's not
going to make the NBA or Karen Clark at least
are some some room for debate.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, It's just there's this feeling that has existed and
I think still exists to your point, maybe not to
the same degree because Caitlyn is proving herself in the WNBA,
She's been productive, but there's been this sense of, hey,
why is Caitlyn getting this amount of coverage and this
(08:58):
amount of love And if you look at the ratings,
it's crazy. Caitlin's games this season they've averaged one point
one eight million viewers and all the other games have
averaged four hundred and twenty eight thousand viewers, so it's
way more than double with Caitlin Clark. So it's like, well,
that's one of the biggest reasons, Like, the coverage goes
(09:20):
where the ratings go.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's why you're not going to see NonStop NHL debates
and topics and all that type of coverage because the
ratings aren't there. That's why you're going to see NonStop
NFL coverage. That's where it goes. But it's just funny
that argument or that feeling of why is she getting
this amount of attention that would be better served for
(09:44):
Bronnie James. It's like, we know why because of lebron
But if you're going to make that argument, it would
be better applied if you're doing that with Bronni who
didn't even average five points last season at u UC.
I could understand that a whole lot more like why
are we doing blow by blow updates of Browny? That
(10:07):
would make more sense that, Hey, why is Caitlin getting
this amount of attention. It's like it's pretty obvious why
she was a baller in college. Now she's doing work
in the WNBA and the ratings are following her.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's why have.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
We seen NBA Summer League ratings? Are they? Are they?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ca?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You watch these games? That's how much I know about.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, you could watch them. You might have to sift
a little bit. I was, I was watching and I
texted you last night.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh yeah, they didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It was Team China against the like Charlotte Hornet's team
maybe C team, and Team China was a fifty and
a half point underdog, and Jeff, you were like, basically,
you got to take the points and that was the
right side. It was Team China all day. They didn't
get blown out by fifty one, not even close. It's
(10:56):
like half of that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I can't go that game a chance in Charlotte. I
think it was in Charlotte to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't think so. I think it was in Sacramento.
It's like they did a double header in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I don't know what was going on that it was
in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah it was. I don't know if there's some mini
tournament or something going. I don't know it was.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, it was ninety three. I here is I'm gonna
look up the Hornets roster. Is there a a oh boy?
I don't know any Yeah, I know a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Of I watched a little bit of it because I
was just fascinated, like, is team China gonna lose by
fifty one to like a Hornets seed team?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And they didn't. But there was no one from Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I recognize Bryce McGowan's Leaky Black.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I recognize that name, but what a great name?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Nick Smith Junior, Xavier Simpson or the four had the
four most minutes for the Hornets, the Matt Morgan, Brandon Slater.
I mean, some of these guys you can't even click
on their name. They don't have profiles at NBA dol come,
there's not a link. There's not a link to their name. So,
(12:06):
I mean, the Chinese starting lineup was minus thirty in
a point in a plus minus. Not not great, not
great there, but the Warriors beat the Lakers, though, I'm
gonna see that that's a that's a big, big, big
result last night.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I see, Yeah, it's uh, it's just funny to me
because Dalton Connect could be like a real role player
for the Lakers, and he had a nice debut, But
the coverage is.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like, ah, here's a basket by Dalton on the other.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Things to be good. They need him, like he's the
guy type of player that they really need to be good.
Just suck someone to score the basket, you know, more
reliably than than D'Angel Russell in the postseason. You know,
they need someone to take the burn off Lebron and Ad.
You know, those guys during the regular season aren't to
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play as much as they get older, right, and so
having a guy that connected, if you got to put
up you know, twenty twenty four points a game like him,
that just it's so helpful for your team. They need
him to be they need him to be good obviously
more than Bronny. Bronnie. Look, I said when he was drafted.
I thought it was a great story, Brian. I think
it's a testament of Lebron's career that he's able to
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play long enough for son to get drafted, Like it's
just a hat tip to him, right you his son
is drafted fifty fifth overall. It's not a draft picked off.
It makes the team. But but I said, I would
a reserve judgment on the whole thing until we see
what Lebron's roster status is, and that to put him
on the roster essentially is kind of a ludicrous like
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like that's where you're taking a spot from someone that's
most likely most likely earn that spot. I understand people say, well,
it's just a twelfth spot. I mean, does it really
matter to make Lebron happy? I think at this point again,
training camp invite draft saying you're drafted like those things
are are to me minuscule and overall impact on how
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we feel about, you know, a player making a team
or not like that. It's just a great story, you know,
I think it really is. But him just getting a
roster small without earning it, that's where I think we're
that God's not gonna sit as well in the locker room.
That's not going to says around around the NBA. It's
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going to lead more to the idea that you know
lebron runs the Lakers, which I think is hard to
deny sometimes, but like his son making the roster already
without having proven anything, that's where I think we I
have an issue with this whole process.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think that if you look at Giannis with the
Bucks and his brother Tanasas, who has no business on roster,
you know he is, He's the Darko Milicics. Remember when
al Michaels used to say he's the human victory cigar.
Oh yeah, who had Milichi would get in there for
the Pistons, Like that's what Tanasas is. He is the
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human victory cigar. But hey, to a bes Yan you
have his brother on the team, I get it. Like
it's happened before, so I really don't have an issue
with it. I totally understand what you're explaining where Bronnie
already given a roster spot. It's kind of like, uh uh,
I really don't have an issue with it. It's happened before.
You can find other examples, So I'm not like a
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hater across the board with the story like oh it's nepotism,
and yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Really not like that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think overall the story is pretty cool where we've
never had a father and son in the league at
the same time, let alone be teammates. So there's gonna
be some fun special moments as far as that goes.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's just the coverage is non freaking stop.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's like, do we have to overdo it to this degree?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But hey man, there's not a ton going on, So
I guess I guess the suits at ESPN are like.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, you better do a Bronny story here. What else
are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Goodness, I will say that, you know, I do some
and podcasting and stuff for Fox Sports, right, Brian, And
you'd be surprised when it's like this time of year
and they're like, we kind of just needed to write
something that people are gonna read. Just walk about the Cowboys, Yeah,
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hey Colorado, just talk about their win total. Yeah, it
does play man like, it does play like your the
ability for some of these brands and players and teams
to get eyeballs no matter what time of year it is,
and the name lebron James, Browny James, I mean, I
think there also is a fascination because you mentioned he
didn't start at USC. Now, part of that could be
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he had, you know, a medical emergency at USC and
UH in training camp. I believe it was maybe before
training camp, and maybe that's that kind of slowed down
his ability to start for them this season. But USC
was good for their standards last year, so maybe he
wasn't gonna play anyways. But you know, I think there's
a fascination of like, you know, is is he gonna
(16:57):
average four points in the summer league or is he
gonna get seventeen eighteen, twenty points where you know, if
he's averaging in the high you know, double digits, right,
that's the wrong way to put it, like in the
high teens. Let's say, ye I think you think like, okay,
well man, maybe not but four points you're like, yeah,
that's I mean, I think that's you know, four points
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ain't great.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's not a great sign. Not a great sign. Right there.
I come it up. Next, we turn our attention to ball.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Not quite a ball buffet today, Jeff, but a lot
of NFL slash college coverage here. We got I think this,
we got to dive into this when it comes to
the upcoming NFL season. There is a major factor that
you would be a fool to Overlook, we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Now We're in for Two Pros and a Cup of
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Speaker 5 (18:02):
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great we are, here's how Dan Fackrick described us when
he came on our show.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You do dirupting our promo?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, it wasn't talking about you. You took those clips
totally out of context.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Shut up.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
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Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts oherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yee, it is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm
Brian nowher in for two Bros and a Cup of
Joe live from the tyrack dot Com studios. You know,
the NFL season not that far away, Jeff. And there
is one thing I think you got to keep in mind,
and it's I think it's easy to overlook whether you're
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a gambler and you're thinking about betting on season win
totals or who's gonna win the division or anything like that,
It's really important to keep in mind that the AFC
this year, those teams have eight home games. NFC teams
they have nine home games, right, so we play seventeen
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games right now in the NFL. It's an odd number
and it shifts from year to year who gets more
home games as a conference. So if you're thinking about
the Buffalo Bills, for instance, and their season win total
is ten and a half wins, you got to remember
that they play nine road games, and if you look
at the road games that they have, Jeff, it is
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not an easy road I'll just rattle it off again,
all road games for the Bills. They take on the Dolphins,
then there are three straight road games. Get this at
Baltimore Sunday night at Houston at the Jets on Monday
night on the road, and then they also have on
the road the Seahawks, the Colts, the Rams, the Lions,
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and then way at the end of the schedule in
week eighteen at the Patriots, where that should be their
easiest game. But yeah, eight of those nine road games
are tough games. So if you're looking at Buffalo and
you're thinking about, oh, they're gonna get to eleven wins,
I'll take over ten and a half when they've got
nine road games against that path with all the talent
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they lost.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I like Buffalo's under ten and a half wins this season.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
The road homeling is pretty fascinating to me and Brian
because I feel like, you know, you know a lot
of years we've watched football that seems to have mattered
a lot home road splits. Right, that's what the Chiefs
did this post is I know. And just we've continued
to see the spread. Right, the number for a standard
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and a game right when bothams even was three, Right,
the home thing was favored by three points, and that
was because of home fit events they used to determine
that was three points. Now it's like two point and
a half maybe in the NFL. Brian, I don't know
how much that matters anymore just on its own. I mean,
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you know, depending on like what time of year you play,
the teams at the weather, the amount of road trips
in a row, the amount of miles you're going. That
to me feels like it matter is more than just saying, Okay,
the Bills have or anyone has one more road game,
therefore their record is going to be this.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I wouldn't say, hey, one more road game, you know,
fade them. There are going to be AFC teams that
go over their season win total, for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
But it's just.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Something that you could overlook, yes, and it could come
back to bite you. Right, Like, put it this way,
it could be the swing between the Bills winning eleven
games or winning ten games, and if you're go betting
over or under ten and a half, that that's a
key game. It could be late in the season at
the Lions, right if you're giving me a choice, if
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I'll put it this way, if I've got a Bills
over ten and a half wins ticket, I would rather
that a December game against the Lions was in Buffalo
than in Detroit. It doesn't mean that they're gonna lose automatically,
but I'd rather have that be a home game.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You know, the win total market for me over the years, Brian.
You know, I think it's really hard to take an
over win total for college football a little bit easier
than the NFL when it comes to like any win
total that's over you know, winning sixty percent of your games.
You're like, if someone has a nine and a half
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ten and a half win total in the NFL, man,
I feel like it's taking under in these some of
these win totals is so much easier to swallow than
saying X team's gonna have thirteen wins or twelve wins.
You know, like the college football is a little bit
different because the schedule and we know sort of the
caliber of team each and every year. You don't have
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as many surprises, or in the NFL you just have
some years. You know, injuries play a toll. Some of
your teams are just better because rookies hit, you know,
sooner than we think they're gonna hit. And taking any
team to win eleven twelve games the NFL in a
season long future just feels very hard to win those
wagers every year.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it's a good point because I don't know about you.
I would imagine this is the same you want to
bet on teams where you could make a good argument
that this is going to be the way it plays out.
You know, that's typically how you bet. But to what
you're explaining, if you're taking a season win total under
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like some of it, you're banking on the craziness of
a season just happening for the wrong way for a team,
like right, Like, if you look at the Bills, you
could say, hey, man, they might get banged up, and
they're thinner than they used to be. They lost a
lot of talent in the off season, a lot on
that roster. It's like, if the injury bug hits them
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a little bit with the step back that they've taken,
they're not getting to eleven wins. And that might not
be an argument that makes you feel great, where it's like, yeah,
they could get hurt, Yeah, everybody can get hurt, but
when they're thinner like that, I think it makes more
sense to apply that argument to the Bills. You're right,
it is it's very hard to get to eleven wins
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in the NFL, and I think when you have that
extra road game, that's something else that I look at
and say, it's at least even harder to get there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, it is. It's a really good point. It's it's
easier to selling your brain. For those who gamble a lot,
this makes more sense than those who don't, because I
think I think a lot of people are very optimistic
all the time about you know, what they're you know,
what their favorite team can do, or what they're wager
like it's but this, but you're it's easier. It's a
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much easier selling your brain to be like tough road games,
roster attrition, injuries here and there under you know, like
it's just it's a much easier sell than for me
than being like, okay, well everything has to go well,
they have to like you know, like it just it
just doesn't. The NFL doesn't do it doesn't do that,
you know, it doesn't just always go well for you. Now,
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if you're a team like the Cardinals, who I think
I think the win till six and a half, I
think they could mean over. Like I like, I think
taking a team that is has a low win total
and going over is a much more comfortable bet than
taking ten and a half your win total team and
saying they're gonna win twelve games.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you on that. That's where it
seemed like the the Giants, I think they're at six
and a half. Also, our guy Crack sports handicapper, he
loves the under but I and I I thought that
made a lot more sense. I read all this NFL
stuff and I don't know who I read, but the
person writing was like, they won six games last year.
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I know Daniel Jones isn't fantastic, he's far from it,
but he was gone for most of the year and
they still won six games, and it's like they're gonna
win some games ugly. They picked up Brian Burns to
go with your guy Cavon Thibodeau. It's like they're gonna
win a couple of games, like seventeen to thirteen and
it's gonna be gross. But could they scratch out seven wins?
(26:29):
Be seven and ten? Yeah they could. Initially I'm like, yeah,
I love it, But.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
They won six games somehow, some way last season.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
This is what makes so so much fun to talk
about these things, Right, Brian, is that the end of
the season. Some of these games it don't matter. Yeah,
it's so hard to determine how much that matters for
the next season because you know, like you don't just
have to look at I don't think you look at
last year or the year before. This is why the
(26:59):
NFL is is such a unique sport, because I think
that each individual year is its own, it is its
own thing, it's its own you know, you can't often
I don't think you can look at last year or
look forward like the year right now. Just you have
to look at what data you have right now. That's
roster you have now is because you have now. I
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don't think you can look at last season for the
most part, because think about how much teams change because
of free agency, coaching changes, and and just the overall
landscape of the league changes a year by year. It's
a very year by year league. And so yeah, the
Giants won x amount of games last year with quote
unquote nobody healthy and nobody on the roster. The roster
still isn't very good. Yeah, And and because of the
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scheduling of the NFL, it's a they try to make
it even right, you play your division, you play a
division in the NFC division AFC, and then you have
one other crossover game between the between conferences, and then
you have the two other games you match up with
the with the team in the division you don't play
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in the NFC or a FC in the same record, right,
I mean, the same finish in that division. So I
try to make it fair. But you might get the
wrong division one year, Brian, and that you know, that's
different than last year where the Giants. But I had
an easier division to play, right, and so it's hard
to me to always look at last year. One example
of this that I'm finding is I think I'm going
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to take the Steelers win total under this season and
and bet on the Steelers being under five hundred for
the first time of Mike Thomas coaching. Correctial think the
team is as good right now as they've been in
previous years. And I'll just offensively, it's just almost a
straight afraid of Russell Wilson justin fields. I they're just
not good. They're not good. They they're safe.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You see their workout video.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Of course, they're like they they have the third best
quarterback room in the division. Maybe it's probably fourth. If
Deshaun Watson just was a little bit better. Steeler fans
will say to me, and they have, we're five and
one in the division last season, Well, what are those
five wins? Two against the Bengals with no Joe Burrow
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and the Ravens in Week eighteen resting everyone. So you
really went two and one in the division, you know,
like you can't look at last season. Yeah, to preview,
in my opinion, to preview the next season. It just
the NFL is so year to year that that's why
I approach the wind totals is I just look at
the season we have right now. I look at at
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at who's playing, what the rosters are, what your schedule is,
and then figure it out from there.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it's interesting. I look at it a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm not gonna say one season bleeds into the next
one like a crazy amount, but I do think there
are some things that you could take and apply to
the next season where there it is different. There's no
doubt about that. The rosters change, person l is different.
But some teams, like the Giants, Again, Daniel Jones is
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not fantastic. I would never tell you he is.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But they had Tommy Cutlets for a little bit they
had to cutlets I remember, yeah, like they beat the
Packers at home, you know what I mean? Like they
six wins somehow.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Look, I don't want to be there's there's no there's
no absolutes, right, So I can't say that I don't
look at last season to preview a little bit of
this year. But to me, it's more about the coaching
staff and specific improve like for example, the Packers, right,
Like you have to look at the way they finished
last season to be excited about this season. Absolutely, But again,
(30:40):
you know, I'm not going to look at them and think, oh,
they wont X amount games last year, that's what they're
gonna do this year. I look at their improvements in
Jordan Love in the back half of the season and
think to myself, Okay, you know he could he should
be played better this year. Right, it's another year as
a starter. But I think people get way too caught up.
I know you're not this way and the win lost
record of the previous season. It's about process, It's about coaching.
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It's about you know, improving of your quarterback, your personnel,
your coordinators, far more than what you're just winning. Lost
record was the previous.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Season, No no doubt about that.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
Coming up a little later on number two seed, No
Back Djokovic looking to advance into the quarterfinals with a win.
Now back to Joff Schwartz and Bryan Knowthtirack dot Com,
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Speaker 1 (31:35):
Thank you, Eddie, that's funny too, mentioning Djokovic. Where it's funny.
We were talking about all the coverage with Brona and
then it's like, oh, wow, jokers still in Wimbledon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm getting that big.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I thought I think Eddie's a Steelers fan. I thought
he was gonna rip my take on the stats. Immediately,
I thought, I just go right at me.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, No, he just rips me. I noticed, Eddie comes
from my throat. But it's true. He's very very respectful.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How's my Steelers take? Are we are? We are we
feeling the love this year for the Russell Wilson justin
Hilt's situation. Not for me. Okay, I'm not a fan
of it. Yeah, I think I think everyone just defaultse
to Mike Tomlins, a really good coach, and we just
like give him the respect he deserves. But it feels
like this is the year when the under five hundred
it finally happens.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It might, and it's along the same lines as what
you're thinking with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh has the cachet,
the credentials, but they don't have the roster right now.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, I'm making a little bit of the time as well.
I'm over by the way on MLB starting Paul Schimes.
If you don't start him in the All Star Game,
you guys are dummies, like you you have he has
to be your starting pitcher. He is he It has
to happen, right, Baseball has to start him.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense to
do so why not. I mean, it's an exhibition game.
Highlight a young star.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You know, absolutely you need to have these young stars
and highlight them if you're baseball Baseball has a problem
with not high with not with with with the public
not knowing your young baseball players. Right, they have to me,
they have to start them, just have them like face
o tawny three times in a row and just be
done with it, like you have to. You have to
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start them.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, it's what if you start anybody else, who's gonna
give you as much sizzle as starting Paul's skins, you
know what I mean? Like there isn't anybody because this
is new with skins. Uh, So you get more bang
for your bucket you start him. It'd be better for
baseball if he's to start, be.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Better for baseball. And you need to actually have him
wear his actual jersey whatever these baseball I love baseball
and I'm always gonna watch. But the fact that baseball
decided that these you know, these whatever custom all star
jerseys for each game is a good idea is ludicrous.
(33:57):
We baseball, as we know it has a marketing problem.
They don't market their stars terribly well. It's a sport
that it needs people to learn about their stars and
and to know who they are. And then in the
game when all the stars are featured, they wear generic uniforms,
so we can't tell who is who. But it makes
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you know, you have a you know, look, we know
who these players are. We watch them play, but like
to not have one Sodo in a Yankees uniform on
National TV, and it's it seems it seems completely silly
to me.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I hear you on that absolutely I it just
and and you know, baseball has some great uniforms.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They are a pretty uniform. We have teams that all
wear white at home, except the Giants where cream. I
think it is everyone has a great uniform, Like it
makes a lot of sense to just have everyone wear
their uniform that they wear during the regular season. I
do not understand Baseball's insistence. And they're ugly too, Like
they're not even good they're even good looking All Star uniforms.
They're just super ugly every year. Yeah, go back to
(35:02):
letting him wear their home uniforms or way uniforms. Do
we know what team they play on? Not we the
public knows what team they play on. I think it's
to show you that they do not do that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I like it. I like the strong baseball take.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right there, I've got oh, I have a betting horror
story to share with you betting wise a little bit
later in the show.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You'll get a kick out of this.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
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It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian No.
We're in for two bros and a cup of Joe here. So,
conference realignment in college football it's official in July. Here
we've got Oklahoma Texas heading to the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
They're there now. That's where they're at.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Jeff, and I think Texas in particular, who was a
playoff team last year. I'm fixated on their season win total.
Here it's at ten and a half, Jeff, ten and
a half wins. And I look at this and it's like, Okay,
if they lose against Georgia, which is quite possible, they
have to run the table with their other eleven games.
(36:34):
They're not gonna get tripped up anywhere on this schedule.
And it's not Murderer's row, but the depth of the SEC,
the NFL talent that you have to face, and none
of these last four teams won more than seven games
last season, but just collectively one week after another Florida
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at Arkansas, Kentucky at Texas.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean to Georgia, I just don't see how they
go eleven and zer with the rest of the schedule
being what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I mean you're basically you're basically saying they're gonna
I mean, beat Georgia, right if you take the over
right and then you gi himself's one game for like
an oopsie. I mean that's college football, right once a year,
just like the idea I mentioned the NFL, like taking
someone over ten and a half wins in college football,
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I means terrified because of the sport. You know, like
unless your schedule is just so easy and your depth
of your team is so high. There's there's really two
teams that have high wind totals that I feel comfortable
with taking their over. Well, one, to be fair, I
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won that's Notre Dame because their schedule is a joke.
You're Irish, Brian have Like if they do not go over,
it's ten and a half. I mean Freedmom might be fired.
I mean, this no name schedule is just atrocious this season,
and I think that, I mean, eleven and one seems
(38:11):
very very doable. For those who don't know. It's at
Texas A and M who's a new coach, Mike elco
n I U pradue Miami of Ohio Louisville. Okay, so
that's in those games. The last tour at home off Stanford,
Georgia Tech Navy. What a murderers are there? Another bye
(38:32):
week host, another name t assume host of Florida State
team that I do not think is going to be
terribly good this year, not compared to Lasses, and they're
gonna step back. I just don't think dju is a
quarterback and they have one returning starter on defense. I
believe Virginia Army USC. They might get themselves that what's
(38:53):
the trophy, the Commander's Trophy that the military canademies for
playing each other. They might just get themselves for beating
Army and Navy. Put air force in there and then
you get the trifecta. This schedules a joke. It's not
their fault, but like they're going to go eleven and one.
If not, Marcus Freeman has a problem, right, And the
(39:16):
other one that I think is sort of fascinating to
me for the over because again like Oregon's ten and
a half, Liberty is ten and a half, Ohio State's
ten and a half, George's town a half, TENNAS ten
and a half is Miami at over nine and a
half is juice to the under. Their schedules pretty easy too.
They got a good team. Like, it's just it's hard
to take these big numbers over.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You have to hope that everything goes well.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, and I think Texas in particular, in a new
conference year one and they just go eleven and one.
I had good luck, good luck when you still have Oklahoma, right,
you play Oklahoma at a neutral site, you have Georgia.
The rest of it is manageable. Michigan is going to
take a step back. That's a road game for Texas
(39:59):
in the non conf friends, I just don't I don't
see them beating Georgia and I don't see them going
eleven and one outside of that at all.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I love the under.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'm with you, I just don't see I just don't
see it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, it's hard to see all right.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Coming up next, which team should be favored to win
each division.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
We'll dive into that
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