September 2, 2024 • 46 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys and talk about a super eventful week in College Football, Brian Kelly’s comments & who should we buy or sell on certain teams going into the rest of the season!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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tire buying should be. Good morning, Jeff Schwartz. So it
wasn't the eighty five bears last night. You know, this
wasn't historic defense from USC, but that qualifies his defense.
My friend, right, only gave up twenty points against LSU.
You think about last year, man, there was no defense
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being played whatsoever. So you'll take that all day long
from Lincoln Riley's team as they beat LSU twenty seven
to twenty to give up twenty points. Yes, that absolutely
qualifies as defense that was played last night.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Absolutely, good morning. You know, they had a couple of
things they did last night that were a lot different
than other things in the Lincoln Riley era. One was
they tackled, especially on the edges. You know, some of
the transfer reportal players they got did a really great
job of in space making plays. And then the second thing,
and if you noticed at a couple years on looking
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at Rally's defense, a lot of green grass as they say,
that had no USC defenders in it, and this game
that wasn't the case. That the USC defenders were where
they were supposed to be for the most part, and
they were in the right place and they knew what
they were doing, and those things go a long way,
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and it was impressive to see that, you know, the
improvement they made. I thought that LSU's offense and their
game plan was atrocious too, So I mean both things
go hand in hand. So you know, it makes sense
that you know, you have a LSU offense that I
thought did not do a good job, a couple of
the USC defense that played a lot better than they
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had in the past, and you get a USC victory. USC. Know, well,
the thing about college trouble, I think is different than
the NFL is sort of how quickly one team is
feels like they're about to win and they just don't.
LSU in the fourth quarter is up seventeen thirteen. They're
driving with the ball and you're like, okay, well they're
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going to score here, go up twenty four to thirteen,
and that's sort of the end of this game. And
then LSU just didn't do it and USC took over
and they won that game. They kind of forcuately took
it from LSU.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, that's uh, that's if you expand on that a
little bit. I'm curious what you thought exactly about the
LSU game plan. And this sounds like no pushback. It's not.
I'm just curious what you see.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
A couple things. So LSU is the best offense line
in the country, and they played a game like their
offensive line is a Division two offensive line. In this game,
it was a ton of quick passes to the sidelines
and at that point in the USC it sort of
figured it out in the second half, like what what
why every time they felled the ball over the middle
of field, Brian was a completion every single time, But
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they did like four times the entire game. And LSU
is just uncommitted to the run with that offensive line,
which doesn't make any sense. Second half, you can sort
of feel that that that push right, you can sort
of feel the offensive line taking over a little bit, right,
the runs got a little bit more. They're pushing the
pile a little bit, and then they just stopped doing it.
And the last thing is, this is maybe my least
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are playing football. It's the third and one, fourth and one.
Let's urry up to line of scrimmage and run inside
zone from a shotgun and elis, you did that third
and one, six minutes left, first down. You know now
you're you're you're about midfield and uh and you have
you know now the clock will go to about four
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minutes probably, And instead they do the dumbest playing football.
They rushed the line scrimmage. Brian, you know what plays coming.
They We're gonna run inside zone from shotgun and us
he knew what play was coming. Stuffed l I mean,
think about all the options you have on third and
one as a play caller, and you try to hurry
up and get and fool a Division one, top twenty
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five defense. No one's fooled by that. Everyone knows what's coming.
And the last part too, and I think this is
a lot of coaches have these game manage issues. Looking
rightly by the way, it's not avoid of game management problems.
But after a two minute it's not called two minute warning, right,
two minute time out?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh, I have a rant on that, mister.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Two minute time out. Yeah, you know, USC had one
time out, right and d LSU try to make them
use their one time out. No, they threw the ball,
not smart, threw the ball five feet away from the
open wide receiver and then he threw the next pass
eight feet over the guy's head. And that was and
they waited. They took six seconds to call two plays
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and us he kept their time out, Like it's just
these things, these game management issues they had. I just
was uninspired by the game plan they acted like in look,
Nutsmeyer might not be that good. I kept seeing tweets
like nutsmier Man, he's kicking butt. I go, what what
are you talking about? What game are you watching? He's
throwing the same passes over and over again to the sidelines.
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Miller Moss played much better than not Smer in my opinion,
but I just was unimpressed. Why those who's off at
the game plan. They should have been able to do
more and they just didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No fair enough. I side note, I think Miller Moss
is like the oldest. How what is he like? Twenty
one twenty? Yeah, I think he's the oldest twenty one
year old on earth? Is that just the me thing?
Or what Millers? Does he not look old like in
the postgame press conferences? Or twenty two years old by
the way right now? But anyway, he did play very
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well and he did help me win a prop bet.
So I'm very fond of Miller Moss right now. A
little end game, he would get to three hundred yards
passing hey Man when the game was on the line. Jeff,
you're right, fourth quarter, right, LSU out. LSU got outscored
fourteen to three in the fourth quarter, and Miller Moss
was a big reason why Miller Moss played great down
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the stretch. And there's just so many different things to
get to. How about this with It's interesting that you
talked about the game plan and how ls you look
specifically on offense, and that can certainly be directed some
of that criticism toward Brian Kelly, There's no doubt about that.
And Brian Kelly in the postgame press conference, we get
(06:38):
a table slam. He's like, I'm just like, you know,
like a Dennis screen. Remember the Dennis screen table Slam.
All listen to Brian Kelly after the game. LSU loses
again their fifth straight season opening loss, and here's what
he had to say about LSU fading down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
That's what I said of the team. I said, we
had some guys played their butts off tonight and we're
sitting here again. We're sitting here again talking about the
same things about not finishing when you have an opponent
in a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Position to put them away.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But what we're doing on the sideline is feeling like
the game's over, and I'm so angry about it that
I got to do something about it. I'm not doing
a good enough job as a coach, and I got
to coach him better because it's unacceptable for us not
to have found a way to win.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This football game. It's ridiculous and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's ridiculous crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He knows he felt the same thing I did. Yeah,
Like this game was this game should have been over
and Elise, you just didn't execute down the stretch. They
didn't make the right plays and that cost them an
opportunity to win this game. And again, I don't think
it's anything crazy to say that USC played well, but
els you have the upper to put them away and
justin do it. And now they've lost five. They've lost
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five straight UH season openers. Now I knows you has
played to be fair that they have played a tougher
non conference slate in Week one, but the same thing
keeps happening, and you have to ask yourself why, why
why camp? You have all training camp? And look you
not every team played great this weekend. My Ducks certainly
did not, But you know, why does this keep happening?
(08:27):
To to to Brian Kelly teams, why can't they figure
it out? What what is it about about Week one
that you're not as prepared to play as you are otherwise?
And to his point and what he said, those those
couple of games have come down to like the final
play of the game. It's been you know, they have
not made the plays in those moments where Florida State
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specifically because that's they've played the last couple of times
in Week one have made those plays at the end
and LSU has not.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, and listen, that's a good point that shouldn't get lost.
And it's gonna sound like Excu City, but it isn't.
Is they're not playing like East McGillicuddy State in the opener, right,
you think about last year was Florida State who was
on the doorstep of the playoff. This year it's USC,
who was a ranked team, has a lot of talent.
(09:15):
I believe one of those five years was Bama. Was
it not? Do we get Alabama?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No? No, No, I didn't play no way they play Bama
week no conference uponent week one.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I was probably mixing it up with it's probably USC
or someone like that anyway, But they've played a couple
of tougher opponents games. But still, but the last night
was a good example of you got to take that game.
They were in position to do it, and they just
didn't take it. There listen, man, it's one of these
deals where they just they can't get out of their
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own way. And it's not just USC, who played very well,
it was they didn't take it. The game was there
for the taking and they just left it on the
table and USC took it. And again, props to Miller
Moss and props to the defense looking worlds better than
last season, but LSU assisted that that win for US see,
(10:09):
there's no doubt about that. I think that's the thing
that that kills you the most. It's one thing to
get beat, but it's one another thing. We've got the
US Open going on in tennis. If the other player
just beats you, that's one thing. If you've got a
bunch of unforced errors and you're just hitting the ball
into the net and all that, that's what kills you afterward.
And I think that's what Brian Kelly's feeling right there.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, I used to be able to watch the US
Open until DirecTV shut off my ESPN, So.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, that's fun. I have YouTube TV, though I basically
have to pay for every single service because I need something.
Let me sure you can watch my sports nonetheless, Yeah, look,
I think you look at that game and you give
you know, USC credit, but there's definitely opportunities for for
US you to win the game, and they just didn't
do it. And now looked you know, we talk about
win totals a lot. I think I had USC eight
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and four.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're looking way better already.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I think they're looking at at about ten wins.
Look at their schedule, they get, you know, they go
to Michigan a couple of weeks. I think look part
of and we'll get to this in a little bit
about sort of like you know, stock up stock down
factor fiction, sort of like how do we assess what
we've seen so far this weekend? You know, now I
see people USC undefeated, playoff team. Like guy said, slow down,
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it's like a deep breath. Okay, good start for USC, certainly,
but we're not quite at that moment yet where you
know we're going with uh, with uh, with with those thoughts.
They had Michigan in a couple of weeks. I know
Michigan didn't look great in offense. They're going to get
better on offense. I think the USC again, it's just
it's gonna be tough playing in Arboro. Okay, Yeah, but
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they get Penn State Nebraska and not name all.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
At home, Yeah they do. It's funny because last night's win,
it just it causes you to look at the rest
of the schedule differently, absolutely right, because USC wins and
you're like, okay, yeah, they're at Michigan, but Michigan didn't
look great. That's a beenable game, right that they're at
you know, they're at Minnesota that that should be a win.
You know, if they lose last night, I think you're
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looking at it differently where you're like, man, they got
to go to Michigan, They've got with Scott. Are they
gonna beat Wisconsin at home? I don't know, they got
to go to Minnesota. That's not a for sure. If
they lose, you look at it differently. But after a win, yeah,
eight and four looks a whole lot more likely after
last night's win and that Jeff, that easily could have
gone the other way.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I again, I think that the people going straight
to like this is now a playoff team. It got
ta a deep breath, that's not I think. Yeah. To me,
LSU looked not like not like the thirteen team in
the country, and that's part of week one. It's figuring
out where this team stuck up Again. It didn't look
to me like that was a team that deserved that ranking.
(12:49):
But that's what the preseason is, right, I mean, organ
to look like they deserve the third I can't imagine
or the top ten team after last weekend, I don't
know how you have them up there. So like I
you know, wakings are what they are, doesn't mean that
they're the actual way teams played Week one. But Alice,
you did not look like a top thirteen team to me,
did any of you?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, they didn't. That was a crazy thing because I
texted you, I'm like, I'm betting. I just bet on
this right right now, And there was a bet where
you could get to you could get LSU rushing for
at least one hundred yards, and I'm like, they're doing that.
They're rushing for at least one hundred yards and through
the first half. They didn't even get to fifty yards
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in the first half, and they started off slowly running
the ball in the third quarter, and I'm thinking, they've
got to get there. But I'd be lying to you
if I said, oh, I was completely comfortable the whole time,
right Like, they just could not run the ball effectively.
And I was shocked. I didn't think they'd run for
like two hundred yards or something crazy like that. But
one hundred yards is not that much to ask for
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when they have a clear advantage in the trenches when
they have the ball, and they just didn't. They didn't
look like they should have looked right, like running the
football and having arguably the best tackle tandem in the country.
They've got two great offensive tackles, and I thought they
got pushed around a lot, and I didn't anticipate that happening.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So it's hard to tell sometimes who did what you
know until you watch the film, because a lot of
times that, you know, I thought us see the good
job of kind of having other defenders in the box.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, sure, Like I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Again, if that's an offensive line issue. I just thought
LSU's offense was pretty unimaginative. And look, but it's possible
that they just not smarts, just they just concerned about Nutsmier,
which is totally fine. Yeah, we took over for Jane Daniels,
and the game plan reflected that, you know, but a
lot of times we get you know, information and camp
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on how these teams feel about one another and how
they feel about themselves, and we nothing from LSU was
about like, I don't know if if that Smyer's the guy.
So that's why I think a lot of us went
to that game thinking that nuts Meyer was gonna be
able to sort of not be Jane Daniels but keep
the same magic as Jane Daniels had.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it's super fast I think that the easy thing
to do is just look at Okay, the running game
isn't performing as great as it should. It's the O line.
Some of that was just the running backs themselves because
they finally got some juice in the second half. They
put in this guy, John Emery Junior, who's this five
star kid, and he looked way different than Josh Williams
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and Caleb Jackson because John Emery Junior, he had ten
carries for sixty one yards and he ripped off a
thirty nine yard run and it just looked different. There
were a couple of times where running back was one
on one with a dB and the dB just took
the running back down, you know what I mean, Like
you gotta win. We always talk about that you got
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a one on one, you gotta win. And a lot
of times the running backs last night didn't win when
they had opportunities to. So, yeah, the running game left
something to be desired, But I would credit USC for
a lot of that. Right, We got a lot to
do over here, Jeff. You can tell it's a ball
buffet today. Lots of football college and NFL. So we'll
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just a couple of days away from the NFL officially
being back. We've got the Ravens, We've got the Chiefs
on Thursday night football. And what a great way to
start it off. If you think of this from the
Ravens standpoint, they made the worst mistake possible last season.
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They went away from their identity in an AFC Championship
Game playoff loss to the Chiefs. They they didn't run
the football. That's is running the rock and they just
got away from it against the Chiefs at home. And
so you think about this heading into Thursday Night's game.
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It's been an entire off season where Todd Monkin, the
offensive coordinator, is kicking himself, like, how could I not
dance with who brung me? You're right, they always say
that dance with who brung you. The Ravens did not
do that against the Chiefs. It's been a whole off
season and he's had to think about that Jeff, there
is no way Todd Monkin gets away from the running
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game in any comparable way to the AFC title game.
That's why I can't wait to see Derek Henry new
Ravens running back. How many carries does he get? How
many rushing yards does he get? But there's no way.
At the end of the game, You're like, yeah, running
backs had six total rushes. There is zero chance that
happens on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, I will agree with the premise, Brian.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
But it sounds like coetitive agreement right there.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Je, Well, let me explain myself. This is you know
we have we have fifteen minutes to explain aby myself
right now. I mean technically got two hours. But here's
here's why I think that that may not happen. And
I would caution everyone. I think people are just gonna
auto bet Derrick Henry overs for this game. I'll give
you two pieces of caution here. One is the thing
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that's hard about playing the Chiefs and their offense is good.
I think we agree their offense will be much better
this season with Xavier Worthy. I know Hollywood Brown's not
playing this game, but Juju's back, and you know year
two Ray Sheet Rice and Travis Kelcey obviously, and they
had a Carson Steel now right and and p Ryan
to their roster. The offense will be much better. It
really can't be worse. Right and again and the number
one really the number the top two people that could
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not catch the football for them last year, Daris Tony
and mvs are not on the team anymore, right, Brian,
So you agree the offense will be better? Right?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, okay, I always hear this when it comes to
playing the Chiefs. Ready, this from fans and commentators. If
you run the football, then the Chiefs get less possessions.
Well that's that's not true. There's there's no factual basis
in that, and in theory. Yeah, but it never ends
up happening. But the thing is, Brian, if you run
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the football and you and you take up time right
off the clock and you don't finish those drives in
seven points, you have wasted the opportunity and now you
have yourself less time to make a comeback when the
Chiefs in heavily score touchdown after you score three. So
we've heard this for years, Tancy Titans. When when when
dere Henry was there by the way, right, just go
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to just run the football in Kansas City. It's all
you got to do. Well, Yeah, if you ended seven points,
if you ended three or no points, all you've done
is waste time. And when the Chiefs score quickly, you
have less time to score yourself. So it doesn't actually
work that way, right. And the other thing that is
really hard when you play Kansas City is this what
happened last season. The Chiefs scored fourteen points in their
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first two drives. It it's a really good Baltimore right
of the defense. As an offensive coordinator, you think to yourself, oh, shoot,
we got to keep up. We can't run the football anymore.
We have to keep up. And I made the argument
for years now that fourteen to nothing in the second
quarter is nothing. You run your offense and the panic
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starts in the fourth quarter, right, that's you know, that's
but they're human. Oh he's a human. Right, coaches are
a human. You know, I could see horriby. Hey, hey,
Todd Munkin. We got to pass the ball. We got
to keep up with the Chiefs for the football. So
those are two schematic schematics. Is why. The other reason
why I think the Ravens are in a tough spot
in this game, Brian. They have three offensive lineman making
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their first NFL starts. They have Ronnie Stanley left tackle,
who is a veteran but been beat up over the years.
He's starting vour He's is starting at left guard, who
is a was a seventh rownd pick last season because
he hurt his knee at the Combine two years ago.
He would probably be a third or fourth round pick
out a USC if he was able to stay healthy
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the Combine. He was that sort of player, but again,
seventh round pick making his first NFL start. The center
Tyler Linderbaum. Lindenbaum really good, he's he's not. He's a
good tip of player. Then you have it at right
guard Daniel who is six.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And then you have a right tackle Roger Rosenguard from Washington,
second round pick by the Ravens this past season. So
you have three guys making their first start on the
road to Arrowhead on Banner Night. Not ideal, I would say.
And then unfortunately their offensive line coach passed away a
couple of weeks ago, so they're doing with a new
offensive line coach and George Warhawp, who they brought in,
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is a vetter offense local. He's good offensive line coach.
But again, it's it's really tough I think to just
uh basically have a new coach inserted two weeks before
the seasons. Again, it's a bummer. But these are all
reasons why I think the Ravens might struggle. And I
would caution people on just auto hitting Derrick Henry rushing
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yards in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, I hear you, because listen, game script can certainly
factor in too. If you're looking at a prop bet.
Let's just take Derek Henry for instance, and whether it's
his carries that's at sixteen and a half right now,
or it's his rushing yards that's at sixty four and
a half. Yeah, I clearly, I definitely hear you, But
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I ask myself, what would the score need to be
for the Ravens to basically abandon the running game like
they did in the AFC title game when that cost them.
That was a huge factor in them. They didn't lean
into their strength and they were having some success. Gus
Edwards he ripped off a long sixteen yard run. He
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had three carries, Like you can't look at the end
of that game and say, ah, we did a good job.
Gus Edwards three carries for twenty yards. That dude had
to have at least double digit carries in that game.
That's the strength of their team. And so what would
the score need to be for the Ravens, who should
have learned a lesson from that loss in the AFC
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title game. It have to be like twenty one to
three and we're starting to get later into the second
half for them to be like, you know, we don't
have enough time to just I don't see that being
being the case. So I look for them to lean
into the running game. Sure it's gonna be balanced, it's
not gonna be like the wing tee and they turn
into old school army football, you know what I mean,
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Like they're gonna throw it with Lamar. But there is
no way at the end of this game you look
up and it's like, Wow, our running backs combined for
six carries. There's zero chance that happens. I think you're
gonna see the direct opposite of that happening.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I again, I generally agree with what you're saying. Again,
I just caution, I just caution everyone that that people
have they have these ideas about about Kansas City and
how they're gonna play Kansas City and they get in
the game and they don't do any of it. So
I just again, I just want to I just want
to caution you on that, because again, the Chiefs come
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out and score quickly two times in a row, and
all of a sudden it's like oopsie, were actually, no,
we're not doing that. So yeah, that's only caution about
you know. And and by the way, on the on
the flip side, never bet at Kansas City running back
prop ever, So don't don't do that. They they just
they they don't. They they run, they ride, they ride
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the hot hand.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, it reminds me of the Patriots for a while
over there. Remember who was the running back guy out
of Notre Dame that had like two hundred yards in
a in a game and then oh Gray something, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
our guy Gray over there.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Oh, just like I don't know where, like a Monday
night game.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, he went crazy against the Colts, I believe, rushed
for over two hundred yards and then he was in
the doghouse whatever. He was late to practice and that's
the last you heard of him. It's like he's just gone.
You know, Jonahs Gray, I think is Jonas there?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
It is?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, But the Chiefs are very much especially at running back.
There a ride the hot hand type of team. So yeah,
I would I just always cost everyone on that. I
think the Mahomes, I think I think it's gonna have
a great season. I think Mahomes is primed for a
five thousand yards season. Again.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if he got there at all.
How about this the Friday night game. We've got the
Packers and the Eagles over there in Brazil, And I
was just thinking about this with the QB matchup, Jeff,
if you had to pick today, which quarterback are you
going with? Who do you think is better right here,
right now? Do you think Jordan Leff has already past
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Jalen Hurts? Because I do. I don't think there's any
doubt that Jordan Love is a better quarterback than than
Justin Hurts. That Hurts is over the course, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I think you think Jordan Love is better already.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I do, because, like here's the deal. Jalen Hurts a
couple of years ago, very good, and I get it.
He's the run pass dual threat type guy, but passing
the ball, he's just not at the level of Jordan Love.
And I get that some people, and I'm one of
these where it's like, I want to see more than
just one second half as a starter. He's arguably the
(27:35):
best quarterback second half of last season. I want to
see more than just one season because you saw this
a little bit with Jalen Hurts, right, Jalen Hurst. Hurts
burst onto the scene and it took a little bit
of time and Okay, defensive coordinators, okay this, he doesn't
like this, all right, we could throw this look at him.
I think there's gonna be some of that with Jordan Love.
But just in terms of reading defenses, making the right decision,
(28:00):
throwing with precision, I think Jordan Love checks all those
boxes more than Jalen Hurts does. And in today's NFL,
I would go with that. And Jalen Hurts. I love
the dual threat ability, but some of that comes back
to bite you when he gets injured as well. I
would go with Jordan Love today over Jalen Hurts. Would you.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Interesting? Uh? I uh? They playing different offenses too, I
think they'd Love can make some dynamic passes maybe that
we don't see. We don't see Hurts make but I
will say I want to see Hurts in sort of
(28:44):
this new offense without Jason Kelsey before I decide where
I stand, because Kelsey did a lot for that offense,
and I just don't I'm unsure about what this looks like,
you know, without without Kelsey. I don't know if I'm
quote ready to say that that. I don't think I'm
(29:05):
quite ready to say that that Love is better than hers.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I am now I'm ready. I'll give you one more
little evidence here. How about this if we switched supporting casts. Okay,
Jalen Hurts is the guy throwing to a banged up
Christian Watson, Jayden Reid, who is really good rookie Romeo Dobbs,
bow Melton like it's a bunch of two's over there
(29:28):
in Green Bay. And still Jordan Love through thirty two
touchdown passes as a first year starter. That's really impressive.
Like give Jordan Love AJ Brown and Davante Smith and
give him Goddard as a tight end, give him arguably
the best offensive line in football. That's what they were
last year. We'll see with Kelsey being gone this year,
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but like that you're cooking with Grace over there, and
he absolutely fizzled last season Jalen Hurts did. I just
don't see Jordan Love doing that with that type of
supporting cast. He's making it work with what the Packers
have and it's it's good, but it's not any anywhere
close to what the Eagles have supporting cast wise.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
No, I think, Look, I think it's generally fair what
you're saying. I just don't I think that we have
to see Hurts in a new offense. I think you
would not have said this to start last season. You
wouldn't have said this even up to week eleven. I
think you last year was such a kind of a
toxic year for this team that I think I want
(30:29):
to see them, you know, in a in a you know,
sort of in a new a new new officeorinator, new
defense coordinator. Sirianni. I like that he's sort of taken
the blame for a lot of this. I just again,
I want to see all of this, you know, all
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all on the field before I decide that that's fair.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's fair. I think you go back to Jalen Hurts
so two years ago twenty two touchdown passes, sick picks,
and passer ratings over one hundred. They go to the
Super Bowl. He plays a great game, aside from one
costly fumble that went for a touchdown. But and after
that game, it just seemed like, oh, Jalen Hurts, he's
(31:13):
the real deal. Give him max contract. This guy's definitely certified.
And it's like that was one really good year. But
at the end of the day, it's still just one
good year. Let's see you run it back and run
it back and run it back. And last year was
a big step back with fifteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's certainly fair. And again that's why I want to
see Jordan Love do it. Yeah, run it. I wanted
to see both these guys year two for Jordan Love,
but then just Jalen Hurts, new offense, new attitude, No
Jason Kelcey. Just a lot of a lot of questions
I have about that about sort of both these guys
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heading to the season.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm excited to see both of these quarterbacks.
But man, that's I think that hurts in that Eagles
offense and the way that team just knows dived right.
They lost six of seven if you told me after
they went ten to one and you said it right, Like,
let me just tell you, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You like that, Sirianni? Basically there was a report that
he know, basically took the blame for I liked that he,
you know, how honest he was at least to the
team about how that season went. And instead of blaming
anyone else, he blamed me. Now you have to now,
you know, basically rally and and and prove that that
wasn't you know who you are as a coach. But
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a lot of coaches many they just do not take
the blame. They blame the players. And so uh, I
like that we at least with the reports, Brian, or
that a coach took credit or you know, took the
blame for loss, because a lot of times, a lot
of times man coaches point fingers and annoys the heck
(32:54):
out of players because coaches do not just do not
do not take the blame. And we look at the
coach and we're like, hey, man, like we watch the
same film you do. It's it's okay to admit that
you know that that you got this one wrong or
you didn't or you didn't coach, well, or this is
your fault and it goes a long way in building
team relationships. Now, of course, again Brian, they have to
(33:16):
now do it right and and play better. But I
like Sirianni taking that on himself, say hey man, it's
it's my fault. I gotta fix myself.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, we're in the Uh. I don't know if I
can find it fast enough, but we're in the It
starts with me day and age where Uh you know,
you gotta you just take blame that way. There have
been a number of coaches that say that, like, uh,
Sean McVay is very famous for this. You get a
lot of press on me, folks. Yeah, it starts. It
(33:48):
starts with me, right, Like, it's just that's the way
to do it. It's the new way. Yeah, you gotta
you gotta do that. And uh, I even made a mix.
I don't know if I have a whole mix over
here somewhere, but you know, I need to get in
the soundboard, man.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I mean I gotta add some. I gotta add some.
It would be it wouldn't be good. I just have
to like random random drops ready to go.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'll try to find that. It starts with me mixed
because this happens so often in sports that I made
a mix like a mixtape if you will, of this.
But it's gonna take a little sifting to get to that. Oh,
here we go. Well it's it's timely.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Here.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I think I can get to this. Here we go. Yeah,
you'll notice some uh, some familiar voices in this one.
Check this out. It starts with me, starts with me,
starts with me, starts with me. Yeah, right, like Sean
(34:48):
McVeigh in. There there was some Tom Brady, a big
Ben Roethlisberger. That's been a thing for a while. Coach,
you gotta go with it. Starts with me, huh.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Starts to start with me. Everyone starts with me.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, that's right. You got to throw that out there,
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, we get back to buying and selling college football
stock here. Okay, Jeff, how about Penn State? They looked
fantastic against West Virginia. You're buying or selling your Penn
State stock as we're looking at them doing significant damage
this season.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'm I'm I was already on them as a playoff team.
I continue to believe that. I mean, I don't know
about you, Brian, looked look on a playoff team at
West Virginia. You and I are both are both the
wagering types. When I think we talked about this yesterday, right,
James Franklin gets to spread when the number is between
seven and twenty four points as a favorite. He's now
(36:34):
seventeen zho to one against the spread, which he's like,
it's almost like feels fake to say that, but that's
that's he's good in these games. He's good in these games. Man.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I think there'll be a playoff team. I agree with that.
Will they be a Final four team? I would sell
stock as far as that goes. This is just what
Penn State does. They rile you up. You're thinking, hey,
they look at their defense, Hey, look at the running game.
Look at Drew Allery. He had some nice pass man like,
it sets up nicely. And then when it's all said
and done, you're like, how did Penn State disappoint us
(37:09):
yet again? You know, I hope LeVar Arrington is not
listening to any but it's true. It's just true. I
don't expect them to be a Final four team. I
would sell my stock.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
My thing is that, like is think my college football?
It's you know, everyone we kind of talk about coaches
game management. From last night, I thought like at Riley
and Brian Kelly both had really bad you know, that's
just sort of college football. Every coach has game management problems.
Every team sort of does the Penn State thing, right
when you look good in certain games, when you sort
of don't look good in the field two minutes that
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matter of the entire season. That's just like, that's that's
just college football for you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, it is wacky. How about Texas, I'm buying Texas. Man,
They're so talented. They're kind of like the Cowboys of
college football. I feel like we talk about Texas's talent
like we talk about the Dallas Cowboys talent, and then
when it's all said and done, they kind of fizzled
in the postseason. It might be the same story. But yeah,
(38:06):
being like having a chance to be a Final four.
To absolutely Texas has that chance, I would buy stock
right now.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
They go to Michigan this weekend, and Michigan's gonna catch
six and a half points to the moment, they might
get to seven. I think if it's at seven, I'm
taking Michigan post seven. That's like Texas is good, but
Michigan's not not seven points worse at home again than
like Michigan's defense is still very good. It's a great
game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Michigan buying the Final four stock though Texas. Yes, okay,
last year, this is probably the most interesting one. Oregon.
Oregon strung your ducks struggle against Idaho. I think now's
the time to buy. This is where you can buy.
It's at a discounted rate. Right now people are selling
their Oregon stock. This is still a team dripping in
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talent and look, fluky things happened. No, they shouldn't have
won by just ten points. I'll be the first tell
you that. But listen, if this is a stinker in
the middle of the season, you just kind of shrug
your shoulders. But because it's the first game of the season,
it's like, oh my gosh, what's going on over I
just I don't sell Dylan Gabriel and the talent that
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they have. They're absolutely a contender for it to be
a Final four team.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Can I read you the box score quickly of this game? Yeah,
pretty shocking case of total yards Organ for eighty seven,
Idaho two seventeen. Okay wow.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
First downs Oregon thirty one, Idaho ten. Wow. Third down
Oregon was seven of sixteen, so nearly fifty percent. Idaho
is two for twelve.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, and Organ won the turnover battle by.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The way, oh man, there's that.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, so you're like, it doesn't sound like a twenty
four to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Not at all. No, it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Games where even the game last night we watched it,
you're just like, I feel there should more points, you know,
like organ and this is not good obviously, but you
know they're driving and then they're right, Hackle, who gave
up zero sacks last season, kids up a strip sack
like during the red zone about to score touchdown. That
would have been twenty one nothing before the half. You're like, okay, cool, Like, yeah,
it should be thirty five nothing, but twenty one Nothing's fine.
(40:12):
You know, they they have a nice play, but it's
you know they call alignment for lining up too far
in the backfield, you know, like it was stuff like
that where they also, you know, they gave up to
two hundred seventeen yards of seventy percent of those yards
worth three screens and a trick play, you know, like
like this, it's not people get so fascinated by sort
(40:35):
of when teams allow points and screens are not gimmick plays,
but like with a gimmick play, like a trick play,
like how could they be fooled. Let's call a trick
play for a reason. Sure, yeah, yeah, and and those
those are understandable. When I see a team who's struggling
run a trick play, I think to myself, like, yeah,
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they're losing this game. It's an unstainable way to to
to play offense when you're Idaho, though, you have to try. Sure,
you know, they stopped orgon a fourth down and then
they went ahead and and uh and uh went with
the old flea flicker, double flea flicker. Yeah, past the
tight end. I'll tell you what. Oregon gets a Boise
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State this weekend. Gent had eight hundred yards against Georgia Southern.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
It's so funny. Boise Boys State fans are like, watch
out for the running back. I go, yeah, yeah, you
also have forty five points to Georgia Southern. So take
a deep breath, Boise So how about this Brian Uh
look aheadline for Boise State at Oregon was twenty four points.
All right, it's now eighteen.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, yeah, you got some.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's a big it's a big movement.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It's a big it's a big move right there. You
might have to back the ducks here now would be
the time to do it. But all right, interesting stuff,
all right, coming up next, two rants, won that serious
one that it's completely silly. We'll throw both of them
your way. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
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We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe
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of rants for you here, Jeff. One serious one that's
totally goofy. You're gonna think I'm an old man yelling
at clouds. But we'll start with the serious one first. Okay,
So I just thought the timing was so interesting this
(42:48):
weekend where I want to give props to Georgia who
definitely needed their running back Trevor Etn but he was
suspended for a game because he got popped for driving
under the influence. It's this offseason, yep, right, so he
was driving round.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
It was one of like twenty Georgia players to get
some sort.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Of yeah, I don't know what it is, but he
was suspended for a game. And I give him credit
because they really needed him in that game. They had
we thought, we thought they did and then it turned
out the second half or it's thirty four to three,
But think about that first half, Jeff, where what is
it like six nothing something like that in the first half.
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This was not a blowout at all, and you're thinking, man,
we got these backup, backup running backs here, we could
really use ETN And they stuck to their guns and said, hey,
he got popped. He suspended for a game. Meanwhile, Oklahoma
State running back Ali Gordon was driving under the influence
this offseason, no suspension whatsoever. Remember the head coach, Mike Gundy,
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he completely clumsily tried to explain why he didn't suspend
Ali Gordon, and it turned into, hey, I've figured I've
driven drunk thousands of times, Like what are we doing
over it? But the thing, though, Jeff, is the tragedy
that happened where Johnny and Matthew Goudrou the brothers played
(44:09):
in the NHL. They both died just a couple of
days ago. They were riding bikes. They were in town
in New Jersey for their sister's wedding. They get struck
and killed by a drunk driver. And that's the thing, man,
is that's what can happen when you drive drunk. So
I applaud Georgia for saying that's at least a one
(44:30):
game minimum suspension. But Oklahoma State, who's like, yeah, you know,
we think you can play. What are you doing? What
are you doing it? And that's just that to me, Jeff,
is the bare minimum you've got to sit for at
least one game if you're driving drunk and get popped
for it.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Well, look, I I have many thoughts about this. And
infuriates me with all the resources you have now that
we continue to have people to drive drunk, right, I mean,
there's so many ways to get home safely without you know,
any sort of incident happened. Thing, you know, the Ollie
Gordon thing. It's upsetting because you know the coach basically
to your point, said like yeah, I drink and drive
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to Oopsie like buddy, you're the second highest state employee,
you're for charge of a football team. You're can go
and be like, yeah, I just I casually drink and drive. No,
you should. He had an open bottle in his Carly
that should that you should that it's not it was
It wasn't more than just having a couple of beers
with some some buddies and going home. He was very intoxicated.
And and and when that happened, by the way, like
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two days before that, Kyrie Jackson, a former organ player,
died in a drunk driving accident. No, he wasn't drinking.
The person that hit him was drinking, and so like
it was so tone deaf, and you're right, But look,
the truth of it is, I know we have a
couple of seconds here. Georgia can afford to sit a
player like that, and Oli Gordon. They can't afford to
see Alli Gordon. And that's a difference in those programs, right,
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and that that comes down. Look, unfortunately that's the decision sometimes, right, Yeah,
and Georgia had had guys to play.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
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tire buying should be. Good morning, Jeff Schwartz. So it
wasn't the eighty five bears last night. You know, this
wasn't historic defense from USC, but that qualifies his defense.
My friend, right, only gave up twenty points against LSU.
You think about last year, man, there was no defense
(00:58):
being played whatsoever. So you'll take that all day long
from Lincoln Riley's team as they beat LSU twenty seven
to twenty to give up twenty points. Yes, that absolutely
qualifies as defense that was played last night.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Absolutely, good morning. You know, they had a couple of
things they did last night that were a lot different
than other things in the Lincoln Riley era. One was
they tackled, especially on the edges. You know, some of
the transfer reportal players they got did a really great
job of in space making plays. And then the second thing,
and if you noticed at a couple years on looking
(01:33):
at Rally's defense, a lot of green grass as they say,
that had no USC defenders in it, and this game
that wasn't the case. That the USC defenders were where
they were supposed to be for the most part, and
they were in the right place and they knew what
they were doing, and those things go a long way,
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and it was impressive to see that, you know, the
improvement they made. I thought that LSU's offense and their
game plan was atrocious too, So I mean both things
go hand in hand. So you know, it makes sense
that you know, you have a LSU offense that I
thought did not do a good job, a couple of
the USC defense that played a lot better than they
(02:15):
had in the past, and you get a USC victory. USC. Know, well,
the thing about college trouble, I think is different than
the NFL is sort of how quickly one team is
feels like they're about to win and they just don't.
LSU in the fourth quarter is up seventeen thirteen. They're
driving with the ball and you're like, okay, well they're
(02:35):
going to score here, go up twenty four to thirteen,
and that's sort of the end of this game. And
then LSU just didn't do it and USC took over
and they won that game. They kind of forcuately took
it from LSU.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, that's uh, that's if you expand on that a
little bit. I'm curious what you thought exactly about the
LSU game plan. And this sounds like no pushback. It's not.
I'm just curious what you see.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
A couple things. So LSU is the best offense line
in the country, and they played a game like their
offensive line is a Division two offensive line. In this game,
it was a ton of quick passes to the sidelines
and at that point in the USC it sort of
figured it out in the second half, like what what
why every time they felled the ball over the middle
of field, Brian was a completion every single time, But
(03:21):
they did like four times the entire game. And LSU
is just uncommitted to the run with that offensive line,
which doesn't make any sense. Second half, you can sort
of feel that that that push right, you can sort
of feel the offensive line taking over a little bit, right,
the runs got a little bit more. They're pushing the
pile a little bit, and then they just stopped doing it.
And the last thing is, this is maybe my least
(03:42):
are playing football. It's the third and one, fourth and one.
Let's urry up to line of scrimmage and run inside
zone from a shotgun and elis, you did that third
and one, six minutes left, first down. You know now
you're you're you're about midfield and uh and you have
you know now the clock will go to about four
(04:02):
minutes probably, And instead they do the dumbest playing football.
They rushed the line scrimmage. Brian, you know what plays coming.
They We're gonna run inside zone from shotgun and us
he knew what play was coming. Stuffed l I mean,
think about all the options you have on third and
one as a play caller, and you try to hurry
up and get and fool a Division one, top twenty
(04:23):
five defense. No one's fooled by that. Everyone knows what's coming.
And the last part too, and I think this is
a lot of coaches have these game manage issues. Looking
rightly by the way, it's not avoid of game management problems.
But after a two minute it's not called two minute warning, right,
two minute time out?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh, I have a rant on that, mister.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Two minute time out. Yeah, you know, USC had one
time out, right and d LSU try to make them
use their one time out. No, they threw the ball,
not smart, threw the ball five feet away from the
open wide receiver and then he threw the next pass
eight feet over the guy's head. And that was and
they waited. They took six seconds to call two plays
(05:01):
and us he kept their time out, Like it's just
these things, these game management issues they had. I just
was uninspired by the game plan they acted like in look,
Nutsmeyer might not be that good. I kept seeing tweets
like nutsmier Man, he's kicking butt. I go, what what
are you talking about? What game are you watching? He's
throwing the same passes over and over again to the sidelines.
(05:24):
Miller Moss played much better than not Smer in my opinion,
but I just was unimpressed. Why those who's off at
the game plan. They should have been able to do
more and they just didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No fair enough. I side note, I think Miller Moss
is like the oldest. How what is he like? Twenty
one twenty? Yeah, I think he's the oldest twenty one
year old on earth? Is that just the me thing?
Or what Millers? Does he not look old like in
the postgame press conferences? Or twenty two years old by
the way right now? But anyway, he did play very
(05:57):
well and he did help me win a prop bet.
So I'm very fond of Miller Moss right now. A
little end game, he would get to three hundred yards
passing hey Man when the game was on the line. Jeff,
you're right, fourth quarter, right, LSU out. LSU got outscored
fourteen to three in the fourth quarter, and Miller Moss
was a big reason why Miller Moss played great down
(06:17):
the stretch. And there's just so many different things to
get to. How about this with It's interesting that you
talked about the game plan and how ls you look
specifically on offense, and that can certainly be directed some
of that criticism toward Brian Kelly, There's no doubt about that.
And Brian Kelly in the postgame press conference, we get
(06:38):
a table slam. He's like, I'm just like, you know,
like a Dennis screen. Remember the Dennis screen table Slam.
All listen to Brian Kelly after the game. LSU loses
again their fifth straight season opening loss, and here's what
he had to say about LSU fading down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
That's what I said of the team. I said, we
had some guys played their butts off tonight and we're
sitting here again. We're sitting here again talking about the
same things about not finishing when you have an opponent
in a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Position to put them away.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But what we're doing on the sideline is feeling like
the game's over, and I'm so angry about it that
I got to do something about it. I'm not doing
a good enough job as a coach, and I got
to coach him better because it's unacceptable for us not
to have found a way to win.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This football game. It's ridiculous and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's ridiculous crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He knows he felt the same thing I did. Yeah,
Like this game was this game should have been over
and Elise, you just didn't execute down the stretch. They
didn't make the right plays and that cost them an
opportunity to win this game. And again, I don't think
it's anything crazy to say that USC played well, but
els you have the upper to put them away and
justin do it. And now they've lost five. They've lost
(08:04):
five straight UH season openers. Now I knows you has
played to be fair that they have played a tougher
non conference slate in Week one, but the same thing
keeps happening, and you have to ask yourself why, why
why camp? You have all training camp? And look you
not every team played great this weekend. My Ducks certainly
did not, But you know, why does this keep happening?
(08:27):
To to to Brian Kelly teams, why can't they figure
it out? What what is it about about Week one
that you're not as prepared to play as you are otherwise?
And to his point and what he said, those those
couple of games have come down to like the final
play of the game. It's been you know, they have
not made the plays in those moments where Florida State
(08:47):
specifically because that's they've played the last couple of times
in Week one have made those plays at the end
and LSU has not.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, and listen, that's a good point that shouldn't get lost.
And it's gonna sound like Excu City, but it isn't.
Is they're not playing like East McGillicuddy State in the opener, right,
you think about last year was Florida State who was
on the doorstep of the playoff. This year it's USC,
who was a ranked team, has a lot of talent.
(09:15):
I believe one of those five years was Bama. Was
it not? Do we get Alabama?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No? No, No, I didn't play no way they play Bama
week no conference uponent week one.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I was probably mixing it up with it's probably USC
or someone like that anyway, But they've played a couple
of tougher opponents games. But still, but the last night
was a good example of you got to take that game.
They were in position to do it, and they just
didn't take it. There listen, man, it's one of these
deals where they just they can't get out of their
(09:46):
own way. And it's not just USC, who played very well,
it was they didn't take it. The game was there
for the taking and they just left it on the
table and USC took it. And again, props to Miller
Moss and props to the defense looking worlds better than
last season, but LSU assisted that that win for US see,
(10:09):
there's no doubt about that. I think that's the thing
that that kills you the most. It's one thing to
get beat, but it's one another thing. We've got the
US Open going on in tennis. If the other player
just beats you, that's one thing. If you've got a
bunch of unforced errors and you're just hitting the ball
into the net and all that, that's what kills you afterward.
And I think that's what Brian Kelly's feeling right there.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, I used to be able to watch the US
Open until DirecTV shut off my ESPN, So.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, that's fun. I have YouTube TV, though I basically
have to pay for every single service because I need something.
Let me sure you can watch my sports nonetheless, Yeah, look,
I think you look at that game and you give
you know, USC credit, but there's definitely opportunities for for
US you to win the game, and they just didn't
do it. And now looked you know, we talk about
win totals a lot. I think I had USC eight
(10:55):
and four.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're looking way better already.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I think they're looking at at about ten wins.
Look at their schedule, they get, you know, they go
to Michigan a couple of weeks. I think look part
of and we'll get to this in a little bit
about sort of like you know, stock up stock down
factor fiction, sort of like how do we assess what
we've seen so far this weekend? You know, now I
see people USC undefeated, playoff team. Like guy said, slow down,
(11:20):
it's like a deep breath. Okay, good start for USC, certainly,
but we're not quite at that moment yet where you
know we're going with uh, with uh, with with those thoughts.
They had Michigan in a couple of weeks. I know
Michigan didn't look great in offense. They're going to get
better on offense. I think the USC again, it's just
it's gonna be tough playing in Arboro. Okay, Yeah, but
(11:42):
they get Penn State Nebraska and not name all.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
At home, Yeah they do. It's funny because last night's win,
it just it causes you to look at the rest
of the schedule differently, absolutely right, because USC wins and
you're like, okay, yeah, they're at Michigan, but Michigan didn't
look great. That's a beenable game, right that they're at
you know, they're at Minnesota that that should be a win.
You know, if they lose last night, I think you're
(12:06):
looking at it differently where you're like, man, they got
to go to Michigan, They've got with Scott. Are they
gonna beat Wisconsin at home? I don't know, they got
to go to Minnesota. That's not a for sure. If
they lose, you look at it differently. But after a win, yeah,
eight and four looks a whole lot more likely after
last night's win and that Jeff, that easily could have
gone the other way.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I again, I think that the people going straight
to like this is now a playoff team. It got
ta a deep breath, that's not I think. Yeah. To me,
LSU looked not like not like the thirteen team in
the country, and that's part of week one. It's figuring
out where this team stuck up Again. It didn't look
to me like that was a team that deserved that ranking.
(12:49):
But that's what the preseason is, right, I mean, organ
to look like they deserve the third I can't imagine
or the top ten team after last weekend, I don't
know how you have them up there. So like I
you know, wakings are what they are, doesn't mean that
they're the actual way teams played Week one. But Alice,
you did not look like a top thirteen team to me,
did any of you?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, they didn't. That was a crazy thing because I
texted you, I'm like, I'm betting. I just bet on
this right right now, And there was a bet where
you could get to you could get LSU rushing for
at least one hundred yards, and I'm like, they're doing that.
They're rushing for at least one hundred yards and through
the first half. They didn't even get to fifty yards
(13:29):
in the first half, and they started off slowly running
the ball in the third quarter, and I'm thinking, they've
got to get there. But I'd be lying to you
if I said, oh, I was completely comfortable the whole time,
right Like, they just could not run the ball effectively.
And I was shocked. I didn't think they'd run for
like two hundred yards or something crazy like that. But
one hundred yards is not that much to ask for
(13:52):
when they have a clear advantage in the trenches when
they have the ball, and they just didn't. They didn't
look like they should have looked right, like running the
football and having arguably the best tackle tandem in the country.
They've got two great offensive tackles, and I thought they
got pushed around a lot, and I didn't anticipate that happening.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So it's hard to tell sometimes who did what you
know until you watch the film, because a lot of
times that, you know, I thought us see the good
job of kind of having other defenders in the box.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, sure, Like I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Again, if that's an offensive line issue. I just thought
LSU's offense was pretty unimaginative. And look, but it's possible
that they just not smarts, just they just concerned about Nutsmier,
which is totally fine. Yeah, we took over for Jane Daniels,
and the game plan reflected that, you know, but a
lot of times we get you know, information and camp
(14:47):
on how these teams feel about one another and how
they feel about themselves, and we nothing from LSU was
about like, I don't know if if that Smyer's the guy.
So that's why I think a lot of us went
to that game thinking that nuts Meyer was gonna be
able to sort of not be Jane Daniels but keep
the same magic as Jane Daniels had.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it's super fast I think that the easy thing
to do is just look at Okay, the running game
isn't performing as great as it should. It's the O line.
Some of that was just the running backs themselves because
they finally got some juice in the second half. They
put in this guy, John Emery Junior, who's this five
star kid, and he looked way different than Josh Williams
(15:27):
and Caleb Jackson because John Emery Junior, he had ten
carries for sixty one yards and he ripped off a
thirty nine yard run and it just looked different. There
were a couple of times where running back was one
on one with a dB and the dB just took
the running back down, you know what I mean, Like
you gotta win. We always talk about that you got
(15:48):
a one on one, you gotta win. And a lot
of times the running backs last night didn't win when
they had opportunities to. So, yeah, the running game left
something to be desired, But I would credit USC for
a lot of that. Right, We got a lot to
do over here, Jeff. You can tell it's a ball
buffet today. Lots of football college and NFL. So we'll
(16:09):
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just a couple of days away from the NFL officially
being back. We've got the Ravens, We've got the Chiefs
on Thursday night football. And what a great way to
start it off. If you think of this from the
Ravens standpoint, they made the worst mistake possible last season.
(17:49):
They went away from their identity in an AFC Championship
Game playoff loss to the Chiefs. They they didn't run
the football. That's is running the rock and they just
got away from it against the Chiefs at home. And
so you think about this heading into Thursday Night's game.
(18:10):
It's been an entire off season where Todd Monkin, the
offensive coordinator, is kicking himself, like, how could I not
dance with who brung me? You're right, they always say
that dance with who brung you. The Ravens did not
do that against the Chiefs. It's been a whole off
season and he's had to think about that Jeff, there
is no way Todd Monkin gets away from the running
(18:34):
game in any comparable way to the AFC title game.
That's why I can't wait to see Derek Henry new
Ravens running back. How many carries does he get? How
many rushing yards does he get? But there's no way.
At the end of the game, You're like, yeah, running
backs had six total rushes. There is zero chance that
happens on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, I will agree with the premise, Brian.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
But it sounds like coetitive agreement right there.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Je, Well, let me explain myself. This is you know
we have we have fifteen minutes to explain aby myself
right now. I mean technically got two hours. But here's
here's why I think that that may not happen. And
I would caution everyone. I think people are just gonna
auto bet Derrick Henry overs for this game. I'll give
you two pieces of caution here. One is the thing
(19:24):
that's hard about playing the Chiefs and their offense is good.
I think we agree their offense will be much better
this season with Xavier Worthy. I know Hollywood Brown's not
playing this game, but Juju's back, and you know year
two Ray Sheet Rice and Travis Kelcey obviously, and they
had a Carson Steel now right and and p Ryan
to their roster. The offense will be much better. It
really can't be worse. Right and again and the number
one really the number the top two people that could
(19:47):
not catch the football for them last year, Daris Tony
and mvs are not on the team anymore, right, Brian,
So you agree the offense will be better? Right?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, okay, I always hear this when it comes to
playing the Chiefs. Ready, this from fans and commentators. If
you run the football, then the Chiefs get less possessions.
Well that's that's not true. There's there's no factual basis
in that, and in theory. Yeah, but it never ends
up happening. But the thing is, Brian, if you run
(20:18):
the football and you and you take up time right
off the clock and you don't finish those drives in
seven points, you have wasted the opportunity and now you
have yourself less time to make a comeback when the
Chiefs in heavily score touchdown after you score three. So
we've heard this for years, Tancy Titans. When when when
dere Henry was there by the way, right, just go
(20:39):
to just run the football in Kansas City. It's all
you got to do. Well, Yeah, if you ended seven points,
if you ended three or no points, all you've done
is waste time. And when the Chiefs score quickly, you
have less time to score yourself. So it doesn't actually
work that way, right. And the other thing that is
really hard when you play Kansas City is this what
happened last season. The Chiefs scored fourteen points in their
(21:02):
first two drives. It it's a really good Baltimore right
of the defense. As an offensive coordinator, you think to yourself, oh, shoot,
we got to keep up. We can't run the football anymore.
We have to keep up. And I made the argument
for years now that fourteen to nothing in the second
quarter is nothing. You run your offense and the panic
(21:23):
starts in the fourth quarter, right, that's you know, that's
but they're human. Oh he's a human. Right, coaches are
a human. You know, I could see horriby. Hey, hey,
Todd Munkin. We got to pass the ball. We got
to keep up with the Chiefs for the football. So
those are two schematic schematics. Is why. The other reason
why I think the Ravens are in a tough spot
in this game, Brian. They have three offensive lineman making
(21:46):
their first NFL starts. They have Ronnie Stanley left tackle,
who is a veteran but been beat up over the years.
He's starting vour He's is starting at left guard, who
is a was a seventh rownd pick last season because
he hurt his knee at the Combine two years ago.
He would probably be a third or fourth round pick
out a USC if he was able to stay healthy
(22:08):
the Combine. He was that sort of player, but again,
seventh round pick making his first NFL start. The center
Tyler Linderbaum. Lindenbaum really good, he's he's not. He's a
good tip of player. Then you have it at right
guard Daniel who is six.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And then you have a right tackle Roger Rosenguard from Washington,
second round pick by the Ravens this past season. So
you have three guys making their first start on the
road to Arrowhead on Banner Night. Not ideal, I would say.
And then unfortunately their offensive line coach passed away a
couple of weeks ago, so they're doing with a new
offensive line coach and George Warhawp, who they brought in,
(22:53):
is a vetter offense local. He's good offensive line coach.
But again, it's it's really tough I think to just
uh basically have a new coach inserted two weeks before
the seasons. Again, it's a bummer. But these are all
reasons why I think the Ravens might struggle. And I
would caution people on just auto hitting Derrick Henry rushing
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yards in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, I hear you, because listen, game script can certainly
factor in too. If you're looking at a prop bet.
Let's just take Derek Henry for instance, and whether it's
his carries that's at sixteen and a half right now,
or it's his rushing yards that's at sixty four and
a half. Yeah, I clearly, I definitely hear you, But
(23:41):
I ask myself, what would the score need to be
for the Ravens to basically abandon the running game like
they did in the AFC title game when that cost them.
That was a huge factor in them. They didn't lean
into their strength and they were having some success. Gus
Edwards he ripped off a long sixteen yard run. He
(24:02):
had three carries, Like you can't look at the end
of that game and say, ah, we did a good job.
Gus Edwards three carries for twenty yards. That dude had
to have at least double digit carries in that game.
That's the strength of their team. And so what would
the score need to be for the Ravens, who should
have learned a lesson from that loss in the AFC
(24:23):
title game. It have to be like twenty one to
three and we're starting to get later into the second
half for them to be like, you know, we don't
have enough time to just I don't see that being
being the case. So I look for them to lean
into the running game. Sure it's gonna be balanced, it's
not gonna be like the wing tee and they turn
into old school army football, you know what I mean,
(24:44):
Like they're gonna throw it with Lamar. But there is
no way at the end of this game you look
up and it's like, Wow, our running backs combined for
six carries. There's zero chance that happens. I think you're
gonna see the direct opposite of that happening.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I again, I generally agree with what you're saying. Again,
I just caution, I just caution everyone that that people
have they have these ideas about about Kansas City and
how they're gonna play Kansas City and they get in
the game and they don't do any of it. So
I just again, I just want to I just want
to caution you on that, because again, the Chiefs come
(25:23):
out and score quickly two times in a row, and
all of a sudden it's like oopsie, were actually, no,
we're not doing that. So yeah, that's only caution about
you know. And and by the way, on the on
the flip side, never bet at Kansas City running back
prop ever, So don't don't do that. They they just
they they don't. They they run, they ride, they ride
(25:47):
the hot hand.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, it reminds me of the Patriots for a while
over there. Remember who was the running back guy out
of Notre Dame that had like two hundred yards in
a in a game and then oh Gray something, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
our guy Gray over there.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Oh, just like I don't know where, like a Monday
night game.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, he went crazy against the Colts, I believe, rushed
for over two hundred yards and then he was in
the doghouse whatever. He was late to practice and that's
the last you heard of him. It's like he's just gone.
You know, Jonahs Gray, I think is Jonas there?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
It is?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, But the Chiefs are very much especially at running back.
There a ride the hot hand type of team. So yeah,
I would I just always cost everyone on that. I
think the Mahomes, I think I think it's gonna have
a great season. I think Mahomes is primed for a
five thousand yards season. Again.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if he got there at all.
How about this the Friday night game. We've got the
Packers and the Eagles over there in Brazil, And I
was just thinking about this with the QB matchup, Jeff,
if you had to pick today, which quarterback are you
going with? Who do you think is better right here,
right now? Do you think Jordan Leff has already past
(27:00):
Jalen Hurts? Because I do. I don't think there's any
doubt that Jordan Love is a better quarterback than than
Justin Hurts. That Hurts is over the course, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I think you think Jordan Love is better already.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I do, because, like here's the deal. Jalen Hurts a
couple of years ago, very good, and I get it.
He's the run pass dual threat type guy, but passing
the ball, he's just not at the level of Jordan Love.
And I get that some people, and I'm one of
these where it's like, I want to see more than
just one second half as a starter. He's arguably the
(27:35):
best quarterback second half of last season. I want to
see more than just one season because you saw this
a little bit with Jalen Hurts, right, Jalen Hurst. Hurts
burst onto the scene and it took a little bit
of time and Okay, defensive coordinators, okay this, he doesn't
like this, all right, we could throw this look at him.
I think there's gonna be some of that with Jordan Love.
But just in terms of reading defenses, making the right decision,
(28:00):
throwing with precision, I think Jordan Love checks all those
boxes more than Jalen Hurts does. And in today's NFL,
I would go with that. And Jalen Hurts. I love
the dual threat ability, but some of that comes back
to bite you when he gets injured as well. I
would go with Jordan Love today over Jalen Hurts. Would you.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Interesting? Uh? I uh? They playing different offenses too, I
think they'd Love can make some dynamic passes maybe that
we don't see. We don't see Hurts make but I
will say I want to see Hurts in sort of
(28:44):
this new offense without Jason Kelsey before I decide where
I stand, because Kelsey did a lot for that offense,
and I just don't I'm unsure about what this looks like,
you know, without without Kelsey. I don't know if I'm
quote ready to say that that. I don't think I'm
(29:05):
quite ready to say that that Love is better than hers.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I am now I'm ready. I'll give you one more
little evidence here. How about this if we switched supporting casts. Okay,
Jalen Hurts is the guy throwing to a banged up
Christian Watson, Jayden Reid, who is really good rookie Romeo Dobbs,
bow Melton like it's a bunch of two's over there
(29:28):
in Green Bay. And still Jordan Love through thirty two
touchdown passes as a first year starter. That's really impressive.
Like give Jordan Love AJ Brown and Davante Smith and
give him Goddard as a tight end, give him arguably
the best offensive line in football. That's what they were
last year. We'll see with Kelsey being gone this year,
(29:48):
but like that you're cooking with Grace over there, and
he absolutely fizzled last season Jalen Hurts did. I just
don't see Jordan Love doing that with that type of
supporting cast. He's making it work with what the Packers
have and it's it's good, but it's not any anywhere
close to what the Eagles have supporting cast wise.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
No, I think, Look, I think it's generally fair what
you're saying. I just don't I think that we have
to see Hurts in a new offense. I think you
would not have said this to start last season. You
wouldn't have said this even up to week eleven. I
think you last year was such a kind of a
toxic year for this team that I think I want
(30:29):
to see them, you know, in a in a you know,
sort of in a new a new new officeorinator, new
defense coordinator. Sirianni. I like that he's sort of taken
the blame for a lot of this. I just again,
I want to see all of this, you know, all
(30:50):
all on the field before I decide that that's fair.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's fair. I think you go back to Jalen Hurts
so two years ago twenty two touchdown passes, sick picks,
and passer ratings over one hundred. They go to the
Super Bowl. He plays a great game, aside from one
costly fumble that went for a touchdown. But and after
that game, it just seemed like, oh, Jalen Hurts, he's
(31:13):
the real deal. Give him max contract. This guy's definitely certified.
And it's like that was one really good year. But
at the end of the day, it's still just one
good year. Let's see you run it back and run
it back and run it back. And last year was
a big step back with fifteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's certainly fair. And again that's why I want to
see Jordan Love do it. Yeah, run it. I wanted
to see both these guys year two for Jordan Love,
but then just Jalen Hurts, new offense, new attitude, No
Jason Kelcey. Just a lot of a lot of questions
I have about that about sort of both these guys
(31:51):
heading to the season.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm excited to see both of these quarterbacks.
But man, that's I think that hurts in that Eagles
offense and the way that team just knows dived right.
They lost six of seven if you told me after
they went ten to one and you said it right, Like,
let me just tell you, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You like that, Sirianni? Basically there was a report that
he know, basically took the blame for I liked that he,
you know, how honest he was at least to the
team about how that season went. And instead of blaming
anyone else, he blamed me. Now you have to now,
you know, basically rally and and and prove that that
wasn't you know who you are as a coach. But
(32:33):
a lot of coaches many they just do not take
the blame. They blame the players. And so uh, I
like that we at least with the reports, Brian, or
that a coach took credit or you know, took the
blame for loss, because a lot of times, a lot
of times man coaches point fingers and annoys the heck
(32:54):
out of players because coaches do not just do not
do not take the blame. And we look at the
coach and we're like, hey, man, like we watch the
same film you do. It's it's okay to admit that
you know that that you got this one wrong or
you didn't or you didn't coach, well, or this is
your fault and it goes a long way in building
team relationships. Now, of course, again Brian, they have to
(33:16):
now do it right and and play better. But I
like Sirianni taking that on himself, say hey man, it's
it's my fault. I gotta fix myself.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, we're in the Uh. I don't know if I
can find it fast enough, but we're in the It
starts with me day and age where Uh you know,
you gotta you just take blame that way. There have
been a number of coaches that say that, like, uh,
Sean McVay is very famous for this. You get a
lot of press on me, folks. Yeah, it starts. It
(33:48):
starts with me, right, Like, it's just that's the way
to do it. It's the new way. Yeah, you gotta
you gotta do that. And uh, I even made a mix.
I don't know if I have a whole mix over
here somewhere, but you know, I need to get in
the soundboard, man.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I mean I gotta add some. I gotta add some.
It would be it wouldn't be good. I just have
to like random random drops ready to go.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'll try to find that. It starts with me mixed
because this happens so often in sports that I made
a mix like a mixtape if you will, of this.
But it's gonna take a little sifting to get to that. Oh,
here we go. Well it's it's timely.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Here.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I think I can get to this. Here we go. Yeah,
you'll notice some uh, some familiar voices in this one.
Check this out. It starts with me, starts with me,
starts with me, starts with me. Yeah, right, like Sean
(34:48):
McVeigh in. There there was some Tom Brady, a big
Ben Roethlisberger. That's been a thing for a while. Coach,
you gotta go with it. Starts with me, huh.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Starts to start with me. Everyone starts with me.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, that's right. You got to throw that out there,
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, we get back to buying and selling college football
stock here. Okay, Jeff, how about Penn State? They looked
fantastic against West Virginia. You're buying or selling your Penn
State stock as we're looking at them doing significant damage
this season.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'm I'm I was already on them as a playoff team.
I continue to believe that. I mean, I don't know
about you, Brian, looked look on a playoff team at
West Virginia. You and I are both are both the
wagering types. When I think we talked about this yesterday, right,
James Franklin gets to spread when the number is between
seven and twenty four points as a favorite. He's now
(36:34):
seventeen zho to one against the spread, which he's like,
it's almost like feels fake to say that, but that's
that's he's good in these games. He's good in these games. Man.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I think there'll be a playoff team. I agree with that.
Will they be a Final four team? I would sell
stock as far as that goes. This is just what
Penn State does. They rile you up. You're thinking, hey,
they look at their defense, Hey, look at the running game.
Look at Drew Allery. He had some nice pass man like,
it sets up nicely. And then when it's all said
and done, you're like, how did Penn State disappoint us
(37:09):
yet again? You know, I hope LeVar Arrington is not
listening to any but it's true. It's just true. I
don't expect them to be a Final four team. I
would sell my stock.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
My thing is that, like is think my college football?
It's you know, everyone we kind of talk about coaches
game management. From last night, I thought like at Riley
and Brian Kelly both had really bad you know, that's
just sort of college football. Every coach has game management problems.
Every team sort of does the Penn State thing, right
when you look good in certain games, when you sort
of don't look good in the field two minutes that
(37:41):
matter of the entire season. That's just like, that's that's
just college football for you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, it is wacky. How about Texas, I'm buying Texas. Man,
They're so talented. They're kind of like the Cowboys of
college football. I feel like we talk about Texas's talent
like we talk about the Dallas Cowboys talent, and then
when it's all said and done, they kind of fizzled
in the postseason. It might be the same story. But yeah,
(38:06):
being like having a chance to be a Final four.
To absolutely Texas has that chance, I would buy stock
right now.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
They go to Michigan this weekend, and Michigan's gonna catch
six and a half points to the moment, they might
get to seven. I think if it's at seven, I'm
taking Michigan post seven. That's like Texas is good, but
Michigan's not not seven points worse at home again than
like Michigan's defense is still very good. It's a great
game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Michigan buying the Final four stock though Texas. Yes, okay,
last year, this is probably the most interesting one. Oregon.
Oregon strung your ducks struggle against Idaho. I think now's
the time to buy. This is where you can buy.
It's at a discounted rate. Right now people are selling
their Oregon stock. This is still a team dripping in
(38:53):
talent and look, fluky things happened. No, they shouldn't have
won by just ten points. I'll be the first tell
you that. But listen, if this is a stinker in
the middle of the season, you just kind of shrug
your shoulders. But because it's the first game of the season,
it's like, oh my gosh, what's going on over I
just I don't sell Dylan Gabriel and the talent that
(39:14):
they have. They're absolutely a contender for it to be
a Final four team.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Can I read you the box score quickly of this game? Yeah,
pretty shocking case of total yards Organ for eighty seven,
Idaho two seventeen. Okay wow.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
First downs Oregon thirty one, Idaho ten. Wow. Third down
Oregon was seven of sixteen, so nearly fifty percent. Idaho
is two for twelve.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, and Organ won the turnover battle by.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The way, oh man, there's that.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, so you're like, it doesn't sound like a twenty
four to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Not at all. No, it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Games where even the game last night we watched it,
you're just like, I feel there should more points, you know,
like organ and this is not good obviously, but you
know they're driving and then they're right, Hackle, who gave
up zero sacks last season, kids up a strip sack
like during the red zone about to score touchdown. That
would have been twenty one nothing before the half. You're like, okay, cool, Like, yeah,
it should be thirty five nothing, but twenty one Nothing's fine.
(40:12):
You know, they they have a nice play, but it's
you know they call alignment for lining up too far
in the backfield, you know, like it was stuff like
that where they also, you know, they gave up to
two hundred seventeen yards of seventy percent of those yards
worth three screens and a trick play, you know, like
like this, it's not people get so fascinated by sort
(40:35):
of when teams allow points and screens are not gimmick plays,
but like with a gimmick play, like a trick play,
like how could they be fooled. Let's call a trick
play for a reason. Sure, yeah, yeah, and and those
those are understandable. When I see a team who's struggling
run a trick play, I think to myself, like, yeah,
(40:56):
they're losing this game. It's an unstainable way to to
to play offense when you're Idaho, though, you have to try. Sure,
you know, they stopped orgon a fourth down and then
they went ahead and and uh and uh went with
the old flea flicker, double flea flicker. Yeah, past the
tight end. I'll tell you what. Oregon gets a Boise
(41:18):
State this weekend. Gent had eight hundred yards against Georgia Southern.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
It's so funny. Boise Boys State fans are like, watch
out for the running back. I go, yeah, yeah, you
also have forty five points to Georgia Southern. So take
a deep breath, Boise So how about this Brian Uh
look aheadline for Boise State at Oregon was twenty four points.
All right, it's now eighteen.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, yeah, you got some.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It's a big it's a big movement.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It's a big it's a big move right there. You
might have to back the ducks here now would be
the time to do it. But all right, interesting stuff,
all right, coming up next, two rants, won that serious
one that it's completely silly. We'll throw both of them
your way. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Note.
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No.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe
right here on Fox Sports Radio, live from the ti
rack dot Com studios. Okay, so I got a couple
of rants for you here, Jeff. One serious one that's
totally goofy. You're gonna think I'm an old man yelling
at clouds. But we'll start with the serious one first. Okay,
So I just thought the timing was so interesting this
(42:48):
weekend where I want to give props to Georgia who
definitely needed their running back Trevor Etn but he was
suspended for a game because he got popped for driving
under the influence. It's this offseason, yep, right, so he
was driving round.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
It was one of like twenty Georgia players to get
some sort.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Of yeah, I don't know what it is, but he
was suspended for a game. And I give him credit
because they really needed him in that game. They had
we thought, we thought they did and then it turned
out the second half or it's thirty four to three,
But think about that first half, Jeff, where what is
it like six nothing something like that in the first half.
(43:28):
This was not a blowout at all, and you're thinking, man,
we got these backup, backup running backs here, we could
really use ETN And they stuck to their guns and said, hey,
he got popped. He suspended for a game. Meanwhile, Oklahoma
State running back Ali Gordon was driving under the influence
this offseason, no suspension whatsoever. Remember the head coach, Mike Gundy,
(43:48):
he completely clumsily tried to explain why he didn't suspend
Ali Gordon, and it turned into, hey, I've figured I've
driven drunk thousands of times, Like what are we doing
over it? But the thing, though, Jeff, is the tragedy
that happened where Johnny and Matthew Goudrou the brothers played
(44:09):
in the NHL. They both died just a couple of
days ago. They were riding bikes. They were in town
in New Jersey for their sister's wedding. They get struck
and killed by a drunk driver. And that's the thing, man,
is that's what can happen when you drive drunk. So
I applaud Georgia for saying that's at least a one
(44:30):
game minimum suspension. But Oklahoma State, who's like, yeah, you know,
we think you can play. What are you doing? What
are you doing it? And that's just that to me, Jeff,
is the bare minimum you've got to sit for at
least one game if you're driving drunk and get popped
for it.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Well, look, I I have many thoughts about this. And
infuriates me with all the resources you have now that
we continue to have people to drive drunk, right, I mean,
there's so many ways to get home safely without you know,
any sort of incident happened. Thing, you know, the Ollie
Gordon thing. It's upsetting because you know the coach basically
to your point, said like yeah, I drink and drive
(45:07):
to Oopsie like buddy, you're the second highest state employee,
you're for charge of a football team. You're can go
and be like, yeah, I just I casually drink and drive. No,
you should. He had an open bottle in his Carly
that should that you should that it's not it was
It wasn't more than just having a couple of beers
with some some buddies and going home. He was very intoxicated.
And and and when that happened, by the way, like
(45:29):
two days before that, Kyrie Jackson, a former organ player,
died in a drunk driving accident. No, he wasn't drinking.
The person that hit him was drinking, and so like
it was so tone deaf, and you're right, But look,
the truth of it is, I know we have a
couple of seconds here. Georgia can afford to sit a
player like that, and Oli Gordon. They can't afford to
see Alli Gordon. And that's a difference in those programs, right,
(45:49):
and that that comes down. Look, unfortunately that's the decision sometimes, right, Yeah,
and Georgia had had guys to play.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Well, hey, we'll pick this back up plus good and
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