January 31, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz get geared up for Super Bowl LIX as they discuss the fallout of the AFC Championship, the sports betting storylines surrounding the game, Brian's first experience being a Beard, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
So getting geared up for Super Bowl fifty nine. I
feel like this is the week of complaints. You know,
this is there's no game this weekend, so it's just
all complaining about the AFC title game and these favorable
calls that the Chiefs supposedly got one after another after another,
(00:44):
and then maybe next week we'll be lucky enough to
focus on the upcoming game. You know, That's just how
this week feels.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
But yeah, I mean it's also Pro Bowl week, and
I just don't know who's watching the Pro Bowl games.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I saw it listen. You know, you know it's bad
when the highlights on Sports Center are putting you to
sleep with the like the games they had on Thursday night,
And did you see the highlights, Jeff? The highlights were brutal.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I just tried. I tried, not to pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
They tried not to watch this speedwalking competition. I'm like,
what what are they doing? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And I used to watch the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I did too. I used to watch it every year
when it was an actual game. We had what was it,
Kevin Gogan and Neil Smith they got kicked out of
a Pro Bowl and they tried to find each other
in the tunnel so they could continue fighting. There used
to be a real game and then it wasn't a
game and they got rid of it, which they should
have done. But in any event, this is the complaint.
(01:47):
Week Bill's running back, James Cook is not one of
these guys. Jeff I love this. So he was asked
about the failed fourth down conversion with Josh Allen or
a lot of people thought they he got a first down.
He was not granted a first down if you will,
by the officials, right. James Cook, he was asked about
(02:08):
that play in the AFC title game. He said, you've
got to come in there, ready to go, ready to play,
don't give a ref nothing to call. And I love
that mentality. It's not we were screwed. We got a
first down. Everyone's against us. It was like we should
have been better, We should have put ourselves in that position.
(02:29):
I like the accountability from James Cook. Instead of joining
the wine fest, which is like the cool thing to do,
all the cool kids are doing it, we're just whining
and complaining and making more of officiating than there is
to make. And James Cook went the other way. I
really respect him for.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That because he is a player, and I know that
there are players at times that will talk about efficient.
We saw I think it was will Will Anderson who
talked about DIFFI shading, you know, after they lost to
the Chiefs, which is funny because he didn't talk about
any of the sacks. Is offensive line allowed? But nonetheless,
(03:09):
a lot of players view officiating isn't. It can be incorrect.
They could be a nuisance at times. They don't get
everything right, Like we know those things right. But as players,
you're taught. I do believe in this Brian, that you
control the outcome of the game by your play on
the field, okay, And and that is something that we
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take to heart and that's the way we play the game.
So Cook when he says that that's that, that's that
that mindset right, Like the officials, Yes, yes, they do
make mistakes. They do make errors, but we can overcome
that if you're good enough. It's not like the Chiefs
have gone every call now, for they had they had
last year in Baltimore in the ANFC championship game, there
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were two straight holding panels that took away a touchdown.
It took away a first down, and I think that
she's at to punk the football or one of the two.
They don't complain about that. They just go make the
next play. And that's how we are wired as as professionals.
And that's why I appreciate what James Cook said because
(04:19):
that's the way most of us think.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Of course, when you get to the you know, when
you get to you know, our chairman. Now, yeah, you
might complain a little bit, you might do that, but
when you're playing, that's not the way you think.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, it's interesting. It's I had a flashback. There was
like this football camp in high school. And I won't
bore you with the whole story, but we're playing a
game and we clearly had a first down, clearly, and
the head coach at the time, his name is Brian Burkhardt.
He looked at me. I was complaining I'm like, it's
the first time we got the first down by like
(04:54):
two yards, and he goes, I'll never forget it. He goes,
You're not always gonna get good officiating. It's so true,
Like it's absolutely the case. And I started thinking about
this too, Jeff, where on the heels of the AFC
title game and the week of whining that it's been.
What's the whiniest you've been, maybe completely rightfully so about
(05:18):
a game, about a call, about something. What has caused
your voice to go up and octave? Like, well, what
do you mean? Like, like, can you think of anything
off the top of your head. I've got something on
my list that I think I was rightfully whiny about,
but it's it's got to be the whiniest thing on
my resumes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You have one, oh as like a play as a
fan as.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Could be fan player, anything that you were like just
you were on one right, like you were vocal about
something not going the right way.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah. I don't think Michael Michael Dyer was down yet.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean I think he, oh yeah, the Auburn Auburn Oregon.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, no, Roody interested all of course, but.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, no, no, no, But that was that was the
National Title Game, and he was tackled and he kind
of held himself up. Depending on which way you saw it,
you thought he was down, he got back up and
ran for a touchdown and it stood right, Yes, it stood, Yeah, Yeah,
it stood.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I would say the NFC title game from a couple
of years ago between the Saints and the Rams. You
referenced this at the beginning of the show, where look, man,
it's past interference all day. If the correct call is made,
you take a knee three straight plays. The Saints kick
a chip shot field goal, They're going to the super Bowl,
And I realized to your point, they had a chance
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in overtime. There were other chances before that. But again,
if the officials make the right call, the game is over.
That that's different to me than the beginning of the
fourth quarter, or if they rule that at first down
with Josh Allen, there's still a long way to go.
Let's not forget this is a team that blew a
game in the same stadium in the playoffs when they
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had a lead with thirteen seconds to go and the
Bills still lost that gif you have essentially the entire
fourth quarter to go. That's way different than the NFC
Championship game between the Rams and the Saints. That has
to be at the top of my whiny list is
the Saints got absolutely hosed.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I agree with you on that, But even then, like
as a as a player, you know, I again, like
the Saints had opportunities.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, they did to.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Make more plays than.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Just but the Rams did too. That's how I look
at it. The Rams had just as many opportunities they made.
The plant be in the same situation.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sure, sure, But I again, I I just I appreciate
when players are honest like that because that's the way
we actually think.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I do too, And hats off to James Cook for
saying it the way that he did. I love it.
I also think this too, Jeff is I think the
shame of all of this is people are so hung
up on some of the favorable calls that they're completely
under selling how special that Chiefs have been, how special
(08:21):
Mahomes is. Specifically some of these stats. He's one of
three players already with three Super Bowls and two NFL MVPs.
On the list is Brady and Montana. That's it. It's Brady, Montana,
and Mahomes. The guy's not even thirty years old already
and he's got three super Bowl rings and two MVPs.
(08:43):
He's possibly the fastest to four super Bowl rings and
two league MVPs before he's thirty years old. We're sitting
here talking about Josh allenhead the first den Baby Baba
had screenshots of this was holding How was this not
called against the Chiefs? And it's like, oh my gosh,
do you think the Chiefs? That's all this dynasty is
(09:06):
is a couple of favorable calls. It's so dumb what
it's been reduced to.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think people believe that because they just again it's
it's hard to explain football sometimes with just having to
watch the game and give the results of the game,
(09:33):
Like it's it's more difficult to it takes more time
to go and talk and watch like, hey, this is
why this happened, right, this is why that last play
Josh Allen, you know on fourth down got fooled. Like
there's are more difficult discussions to have than it is
(09:57):
just say the rest, the rest screwed it. The rest,
Like those decisions that there's those are tougher decisions, and
so I understand why people go in that direction. It's
also for content, it's much easier to talk about the officials.
Then again, I don't know how people listening need me
to break down or want me to break down the
fourth and five play. It's much easier to be like, the
(10:18):
official screwed everyone than it is just to actually have
a discussion about football. So that's when I think too.
You know, you know, when in the when there when
there is when there's there's no answers for something, I
feel like we tend to turn to conspiracy, right and again,
(10:44):
when it's it's hard, I think at times to just
talk through the game, so we turn to conspiracies and
we turn to it's it's you know, it's all those things, right.
So that's why I think this.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But I do wonder to your point, because it's hanging fruit.
You know, it's gonna sell. People want to believe that
the fix is in. Yeah, So if you go on
your social media platform of choice and you say that
and then you show a screenshot or a video and
then it just riles everybody up, I wonder how many
(11:17):
of those people are like, yeah, this is kind of dumb,
but they're gonna buy this, So let's just lean into it,
you know what I mean, I'm sure it's out there.
Not everybody that's putting that content out there believes it
can't be. There's got to be someone that's like, yeah,
it's gonna sell though, so let's just go with it, right,
And it just sucks that it gets that type of
(11:39):
reaction because people want to believe it. They don't want
to believe that they had the incorrect pick. They want
to believe that the fix is in and it's rigged,
so they're gonna buy it, hook line and sinker.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
This is why we say, if if you have not
been betting on Kansas City and you think this is rigged.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, so yeah, or bet everything you own on the Eagles.
I'm sorry, I bet everything you own on the Chiefs
the upcoming game because the fix is supposedly in. You know,
it's it's I don't know, man, it's just a complete
waste of time. But people are gonna believe that. By
the way, real fast, what did you think about the
(12:17):
Xavier Worthy catch? What are your two cents on that one?
Because I got mine with the cold Bishop had it
initially because I keep on saying, like the ball touched
the ground, the ball the ball can touch the ground. Okay,
like we're not with bird of Manual in the NFC
title game in ninety nine that season, Like the ball
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couldn't touch the ground back then, Now it can. It's
a lot of the ground doesn't help you. Yeah, I
thought it was the right call. So the ball can
touch the ground. I thought Bishop had it initially, but
he's got to complete the process of the catch. And
while he was in the process of doing that, if
you're worthy had the ball and the tie goes to
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the offensive guy, that was the right call.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I thought it was totally fine. I thought it was right.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, And at worst, that's incomplete. There's no way it's
an interception, zero chance. They both had the ball. It's
not the Bills football. So worst case scenario, that's incomplete.
There was a defensive holding call. The Chiefs would have
had a first down anywhere you're talking about twenty some
yards of the position.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So I commented the time that that Sehan McDermott, you know,
him challenging that call made no sense because the loss
of the time out for twenty yards, especially the Chiefs
are moving the ball, felt a little bit wasteful. Yeah,
(13:48):
you would want that challenge and turn out they didn't
need it. But I thought challenging that for twenty yards
was silly and it wasn't gonna change either.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, they could have used that time out at the end, right,
they only had two time outs instead of three?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right where that was the first half?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
What the Xavier worthy was? Ye wasn't it take it back?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I don't know it was end of the first half.
I thought the.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Final like the final drive right there. But yeah, you
might be right. I think you know, I'll give the
Chiefs credit. No one's talking about this real fast because
it's all conspiracy theories in the NFL is rigged, And
how many teams wouldn't have iced the game the way
the Chiefs? It was great? Right, Like, let's trust Mahomes,
(14:33):
Let's throw the ball, Let's not run it straight into
the defensive line three straight plays and then either have
to kick a long field goal where we're only up six,
or or we miss and they're in decent field position,
or we have to punt it and they're only down
by three. You know what I mean, Like, let's try
to ice it with our best player, And that's exactly
(14:54):
what they did. There are a lot of teams.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They would get too considerate and they were very like
easy passes.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's right, they're running back.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I thought it was it was great.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It was great, Jeff. How many times we saw the Bengals.
Remember early in the season they were playing the Ravens.
Game goes to overtime, Derrick Henry fumbles, They run three
conservative plays, all running plays, pick up hardly in the yards.
They settle for a fifty some yard field goal, they
miss it, and the Ravens go on to win. You
(15:27):
know what I mean, like conservative to a fault and
the Chiefs didn't do that. You know what I loved.
I loved Chris Jones. So this is right after Dalton
Kincaid didn't catch that ball on fourth and five. There's
still time left, Bills have two timeouts, and Chris Jones,
it's like a postgame handshake with Dion Dawkins. It's like
(15:48):
dapping them up and be like, hey man, it's a
good game. It's not over at all. But Chris Jones was.
He knew it was over because he trust the offense.
He's been through this whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I like that Chris Jones was so emotional in that moment.
Because think about this is his fifth super Bowl, Yeah,
explained in Yeah, and you would think that at this time,
you know, he's done it so many years, Like how
how can this be something that like he makes him
(16:19):
so emotional? And I love to see that he was.
But for those who missed it, like there was a
video that he's put out or NFL films like, yes,
of the final play of the game, it was just
a video on Chris Jones and the sidelines Peter Ray
against the first down and Chris Jones kind of breaks
down on the bench, starts kind of tearing up a
little bit, and I just I love that emotion, man,
Like we asked her athletes all the time to show
(16:41):
us that emotion and to be themselves, and a lot
of times they don't, right, they just yeah, their pr machines,
and but in this, in this situation, that was certainly
not the case. And I appreciated it. I don't know
if you did, Brian, but yeah, I liked that we
saw Chris Jones care like I was caring. Was awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Totally agree And I was kind of this same way
when p Ryan cashed my my bell.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, final play freaking beauty.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I I'm the I never I can never get the
benefit of the doubts. I always I always get screwed.
I always get, you know, I get I get gained
well right where I hope he's okay, obviously, But to
have someone with an over rushing and he has I
need one half yard more and he gets concussed in
the opening kickoff of the second half.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Gosh, not great, right, not great. I was in on
the the gain well in game line because it's like
you could see where the game is headed.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I had I laddered him too. I had I had
a ladder one hundred plus like I took one hundred
plus yards at plus like eleven hundred, and he would
have gotten it. There was a Shipley carries that was
there were his carries that half.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Shipley had all the carries at the end because gain
what do you have seven?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He had eight and his number was eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh gosh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wonder like if there's an opportunity to fade Shipley, if
Shipley's numbers are up.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
This week, absolutely he's not gonna get a carry.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No crack sent over those props this morning, and one
of them I can't even find anywhere, Like, I don't know,
there's no Tako Tara number on in just not in
Las Vegas. So because Thursday yesterday was the day that
Las Vegas releases all their props for the Super right now,
the you know, domestic sports books have had him up
(18:25):
for a while now, but they're wagers that I can
get eventually, but we can't, like we can't get that
Pachaco cream Pachaco gainwell wagers right until that will pop later,
that it will pop later. It just won't pop. Now,
I've made those wages before. But yeah, it's uh, I
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can't wait. I'm gonna have the sweating Sunday.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'll tell you that absolutely all right. He's Jeff Schwartz,
I'm Brian. Now we're in for two bros to a
Cup of Joe here coming up next. I am officially
a beard. It requires an explanation. Yeah, we'll get that
to you.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
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Speaker 1 (19:20):
App's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian no in for two pros
and a cup of Joe here in Fox Sports Radio,
coming to you live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Jeff,
you have disappointed me in grand fashion not being a
metal head. You fit the profile. I think you'd make
a tremendous metal head. How do you feel about Nirvana's
(19:42):
you know it's not heavy heavy? You're good with them? Yeah, okay,
good to know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean sure. I mean I don't listen to our
songs often. I'm not a sign No, it's talking no
if it comes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So if you were, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like normally like lambagatas, I have to take my headphones off.
Oh man, No, I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You hit shuffle real fast, that's what you're doing. Yeah, gotcha.
So I'm officially a beard, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Join your club. I've been one.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, you're officially a beard. You were a beard before
I was. But I you know, I'm I'm in the
game now. Yeah. So last night you were mentioning this
at the West Gate they released all their super Bowl
prop bets.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, and this is a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Bit I didn't know this history. You might know better
than me. But Crack said, so Bill Krackenberger, he's a
professional sports handicapper. All three of us are together on
Sunday mornings, myself, Jeff and Crack and so Crack he says, hey, man,
you want to if you're not doing anything, you know
Crag He's like, if you're not doing nothing, come on
down to the west Gate. He explains the whole thing.
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So before or it was Draft Kings and Fan Duel
and bet MGM and all that, it was the Westgate
super Book and they would release their super Bowl prop
bets and there'd be a line out the door. There'd
be one hundred and fifty people and you'd wait in
line and you would get two super Bowl prop bets,
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and then you had to go to the back of
the line and wait again so you can get two
more prop bets in. And he said, that's changed because
we have all the online stuff. But some of the
like hardcore dudes that have done this for years and
it's sort of like a tradition. It's a tip of
the cap to Westgate. So we get together and we
still do this. So if you're not doing nothing, you know,
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come on down. And so I did and it was great.
And so I'm in line Jeff and Crack says, hey,
catch this, and he throws me a five thousand dollars
chip like a Westgate poker chip. And then he's he
says to me, he's like, all right, I need a
two thousand or as much as they'll take on this
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one prop, and same thing on this other prop. And
I'm like, okay, all right cool. And I'm like all right.
And he told me he's like, one of them's minus
one twenty, the other one's plus one one twenty. If
the odds are any different than that, we don't want it.
I'm like, all right, cool. And so I get up
there and I put the bets in. One of the
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bets that was supposed to be plus one twenty was
plus one ten, okay, and I kind of set it
out loud Crack cracks right there. I'm like, okay, so
plus one ten and I just wait, I didn't say
any of them. I'm like, all right, screw just throw
it in there, like it's cracks funny, what do I care? Yeah,
you know, And so I make this bet. The funny
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thing was, now I go back in line, right, So
it's time for me to enter my bet. So I
get all the way there, I get to the front,
and I'm like, yeah, I'll take I'll take under six
and a half total punts because no one wants to
punt anymore. I'll take under six and a half for
seventy five dollars, right, each one of cracks bets. One
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was two thousand, and one was twenty four hundred. How
obvious is that they call it a beard because you're
entering a bet for somebody else. It's as if you're
putting a fake costume, like the old Bobby Bobby Valentine,
you know, oh yeah, yeah, you're putting like a fake
beard on so you can enter a bet for somebody.
How obvious was I have a couple of two thousand
(23:33):
dollars bets and then I'm back in line making a
seventy five dollar bet.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So when we were Mississippi together a couple of years
ago for this remote that we did all three of us,
he handed me ten grand and was like, go, can
you make these five waiters for me? And the sports
book was like nope. I'm not gonna let that happen.
And immediately he limited me like, we don't know you
same thing I wasn't like that was the price of
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the of the you know the thing I just I
love how I mean, it's his job, like he's just like, yeah,
just hits these numbers. Man. The thing that's that's tough
is like he's not doing sides and totals very often.
Even though he's been on the Chief's money line a
couple of weeks in a row, he is again this week.
I think, Yeah, it's taking you know, Jahan Donson over
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one over point five receptions. It's taking jujuish machine. Like
it's all these wages where you're like, oh boy, like
it can go. You know, it's the margin of error
on that is very small, it is. And but though
I mean, look, man, he's he makes money, tell you
that he does. He's not doing it for free.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You know what kills me, yeah, is it reminds me
of my dad. My dad will screw up names all
the time, like on our like the Saint Louis Cardinals,
you know what I mean, Like he's a die hard fan,
he's from that area. I'm the same way and so
we'll talk Cardinals a lot of times during the season.
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My dad will just steadily grew up names. But that's
my dad. That's what he does. And Crack is great
at what he does. And it still blows my mind
that hell, and this is not a shot at all.
Is actually I mean this as a compliment. You don't
have to know what you think you need to know, Like,
you don't need to know these rosters up and down.
(25:19):
You could mess up a prominent player's name and it
doesn't matter. Like it's all about the number. It's all
about the line. And he's got the experience where he
knows which way to lean.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
He said, he doesn't watch that like he doesn't know
like football like we do. He just he just has
the numbers and and his wagers and he does it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, it's it's wild, it's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So you got nothing besides beautiful, Yeah, it's right. He's
like Russell Crowe over there, you know, Yeah, you got nothing,
but Cracks plays nothing on you. I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, I took the Chiefs in the over. I
was gonna do that anyways, whether that was on a
couple of well a couple of props. I am, well,
so he took. He played something that I was gonna play.
I was gonna play the hundred all the Hopkins stuff.
Unders yeah, because he has done nothing for the Chiefs
and he just can't move, and he's older, and I
think the Eagles corners will play really well against him.
(26:13):
I like so far for myself. I like mahomes over
past attempts. I just think they have to pass the football.
I only run the ball very well in this game,
and it's gonna be a pass I took. By the way,
on bet MGM, there was a first Chiefs reception. Okay,
(26:34):
Xavier Worthy was plus seven hundred and Hollywood Brown was
plus one thousand. I took both of those. Again, I
have the over and I have Chiefs money line. Yeah,
I just haven't. I also just barely sort of finished
watching film from this last week, so I'm still kind
of started catching up on those. I just haven't. I
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don't know, man, what have you made? I like the
wager I made that one.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I went with. Uh, I'm on the over as well.
I think it's a fast track, but I think the
points are gonna be scored. I mean, you look at
the Eagles. They just have a lot to work with. Man,
they got a lot of firepower. I like Casey's defense.
They've been leaky against the run first two games. Yeah,
Like Mixon ran for over one hundred uh, James Cook
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had a great second half, got over eighty yards rushing.
Sakwan Barkley has been phenomenal this season, and Chiefs have
gotten leaky in their rush defense. And even if they're
doing everything they can to, yeah, they prioritize slowing down Saquon.
They can be somewhat effective. Man. You got aj Brown
and DeVante Smith and god it, that's just a lot
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of fun in that offensive line. And Mahomes. Mahome's gonna
have a game because he always does. And I don't
know how good the Chiefs is gonna be able to
run the ball. I don't know they're gonna be effective
at all. And so if Mahomes just slinging it around,
we're scoring points, man, I think we're scoring points. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The only prop I disagreed with the Crack sent over
like already, I'm like, I just I didn't play it.
The Mahomes under rushing props he sent over I under
six and a half rush attempts. Yeah, I think Pat's gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Run the ball a lot and everything.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, the kneel downs also, if I think Chiefs are
gonna win, he'll have some neel downs and that that
kind of screws that that wager a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I like the under six and a half punts.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I love it. That's a great wager.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
No one's punting, man, no one wants to punt. You
got to have like fourth and fifteen at your own
twenty five, you know, to be all right, screw it.
I guess we don't have an option.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No one's punned in. And even though even though the
oprah was seven, I'll take you know, six and a half.
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I still like that.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just you know, it's it's hard with one game
and then just like tailing other people, I don't have
room for my own wagers. I told you, I mean,
I'm either going to be broke or like a something.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was thinking too, Jeff. Where you look at the
Chiefs running backs catching the ball, because again I don't
know how much they're gonna run it like they're running
game is.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I think under I think unders for that makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You could either go under with the rushing yards of
those backs, or you could go over receiving yards because
they're all three of them very modest. Whether it's Kareem
Hunt or it's Pacheco or it's Pet Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm I actually think I probably need to wager on
the Mahomes. I have so many. I gotta check I
have this app I started using that I can like track, uh,
I can tracks my wagers like it just and I
think that I just have so many. I gotta make
sure I don't I don't double up here. I do
think that the Mahomes under over receptions, I mean over tempts.
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I'm gonna have to make it just there. It's at
thirty six and a half right now, it's it's a
lot and it's plus money. So I'm hoping it comes
back down to thirty five and a half and I'll
take that. He's gonna have to so the Chiefs will
will they have not run the ball with so let
their left guards and all pro Joe Toney, he moved
to left tackle because they've had left tackles. He's battling
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his butt off. He's playing as hard as possible he's
doing a great job, but the sacrifice is the run game.
The run game has not been as good when he's
not been in a left guard, and against the Eagles,
it's almost gonna be worse. You have Jordan Davis, Jordan
Davis on that side, then you have Jalen Carter on
the other side. Like, you're just not gonna run the ball,
in my opinion, in this game very well, unless you
get on the edges and you find different ways to
get creative. And so to me, it's a Kareem Hunt game, right,
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It's a run the ball in the middle of the
tackles with your bigger back, and it's it's finding. So
the Chiefs use swing passes, you know, those little fly
sweeps like those are considered quote runs in their offense,
if that makes sense, Brian, Yeah, So they find ways
to run the ball without running the football. So that's
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why I think Mahomes pass attempts is a wager that
I'm gonna have to make for this game.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I hear you. The only thing and this isn't
like really a pushback is just kind of like food
for thought. If you think the Chiefs are gonna win
the game, I'm looking at every playoff game, obviously, including
the Eagles, right, and no quarterback that one. Its game
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has gotten to where we have to get to thirty
seven pass attempts. The closest one in a winning effort
was Jaden Daniels of the Commanders. That was at Tampa.
He threw it thirty five times in a win. But
everybody else in a win it's like twenty something. You
might might have even gotten there. So that's the only
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thing I worry about. I like what you're thinking. I
just don't think Casey's running game is going to be
very effective at all. I'd be very surprised if they
have like good success, which is just moderate success, you know.
I the Eagles defensive front is fantastic and the Chiefs
are not running it, so Mahome's gonna have to throw it.
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But man, when when you get into that second quarter
and if they have any type of lead, you start
leaning on the run a little bit more. I just
wonder if that factors in it all. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I I'm I'm aligned with you there. The thing about
you know, I think that makes this, you know, sometimes difficult,
is you have to wager on these games essentially with
the idea that the game goes a certain way and
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if it doesn't go that way, you lose a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Is you have to think about oh yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You have to you have to think about, essentially, how
do I wager in the game in a way that
if it doesn't go the way that I think it's
going to go, I don't lose all my money.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, well, I think to your point right there, the
Chiefs have won seventeen straight one possession games. The Eagles
roster is so good. I just don't see the Chiefs
running away and hiding, which if you're on a Mahomes
pass attempt over, you want it to be a close
game where he's still throwing it. You don't want them
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to be ahead by ten, fourteen points and all of
a sudden they start doing their four minute offense and
running the ball a little bit more. Right, So, I
think it's gonna be a close game. I would be
very surprised if it's not a close game. So it
would be if it's the Chiefs are running away and hiding,
I shake my shoulder, shrug my shoulder, like, eh, I
didn't see that one coming. But I'm not upset about
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my pass attempts. Bet.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, I think this game, we both think it's an
over game, which means it sort of has to go.
It has to be a pass fest, I think, right yeah,
and I I just I think both teams are gonna
be in the mindset of score, score score, go for
a fourth down, like yeah, we gotta just try our
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best to get this as score as many points as
asap and get it done as soon as possible. And
remember the lastup role that they had there was a
defensive touchdown as well in.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
That game, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't know if I don't feel that you can't
you can't handicap for that in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I know that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
But there does feel like that that's sort of certainly
a possibility in this one as well.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely sure. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
If this is gonna be such a it's gonna be.
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It will be. I'm really looking forward to it. H
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Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The very very awkward beginning to the Lean Cohen. That's right,
the New Day and Age, if you will. So this
was how awkward it was in the introductory press conference.
It doesn't do it justice because it's his whole facial expression.
(36:47):
Could not be more awkward, Jeff. Now I didn't realize
he redid it right. So someone got in his ear
and was like, yo, Lean, yeah, yeah, we got to talk.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
That was bad.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And so he does it again and it's still awful.
Now again you can't see what he does, but he
kind of puts his hand up to his his like
his mouth, and he's like do like he's sharing a
secret or so like do.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
This is how it sounds.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
All here we go, Jeff, Dude, we got we got
problems over here. So are his country? This is not good?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So here here is here is why I I have
an issue with this. Okay, It's not that he's that
he said duvall weirdly. It's that I want my coach
to show their personality. And this feels very forced and
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uncalled for. And like him and I understand the idea
of trying to fit in, but no one would care
if you didn't say duval Like you're the head coach
of the of the of the Jackson. You don't have
to say duvall at your press conference. Just hey, Jacks fans,
it's had to be here, you know, Aaron Aaron Quinn
got up there in New York and didn't say you know,
he just got there, was like, we're gonna wine, We're
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gonna be I just I don't. I think it's just
so awkward when you go that direction, when you go
like pandering to the fan base, like it was.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Like Brian Kelly, is Brian Kelly going to l s
U having a Southern accent? My family? That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Wait, he doesn't have a He doesn't have a.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
U does not have like a hardcore southern drawl. He
does not have that.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
No oh, I thought he did.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He tried to develop one and it failed miserably.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
The same thing like the the code switching that's on
that term recently, little code switch. You know, when he's
up north, he's talking going to northern when he's down
South talking like a Southerner. Yeah, I just uh, I
used you know, I've been to South now, you know
for a while. I just used. I just say, y'all,
that's my, that's my.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's like, uh the Departed. Remember when Mark Wahlberg he
was like, you had different accents, didn't you. You were
like different people. Yes, right, that's exactly what you're talking
about right there. Yeah. Hey, by the way, the dynamic kickoff.
The NFL says it's produced fifty seven percent of an
increase in returns. This season been.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
A success, right, I think certainly has.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yes, absolutely it has. Hey, this fill in show has
been a raging success. Always good with you, Jeff Schwartz,
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So getting geared up for Super Bowl fifty nine. I
feel like this is the week of complaints. You know,
this is there's no game this weekend, so it's just
all complaining about the AFC title game and these favorable
calls that the Chiefs supposedly got one after another after another,
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and then maybe next week we'll be lucky enough to
focus on the upcoming game. You know, That's just how
this week feels.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
But yeah, I mean it's also Pro Bowl week, and
I just don't know who's watching the Pro Bowl games.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I saw it listen. You know, you know it's bad
when the highlights on Sports Center are putting you to
sleep with the like the games they had on Thursday night,
And did you see the highlights, Jeff? The highlights were brutal.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I just tried. I tried, not to pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
They tried not to watch this speedwalking competition. I'm like,
what what are they doing? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And I used to watch the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I did too. I used to watch it every year
when it was an actual game. We had what was it,
Kevin Gogan and Neil Smith they got kicked out of
a Pro Bowl and they tried to find each other
in the tunnel so they could continue fighting. There used
to be a real game and then it wasn't a
game and they got rid of it, which they should
have done. But in any event, this is the complaint.
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Week Bill's running back, James Cook is not one of
these guys. Jeff I love this. So he was asked
about the failed fourth down conversion with Josh Allen or
a lot of people thought they he got a first down.
He was not granted a first down if you will,
by the officials, right. James Cook, he was asked about
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that play in the AFC title game. He said, you've
got to come in there, ready to go, ready to play,
don't give a ref nothing to call. And I love
that mentality. It's not we were screwed. We got a
first down. Everyone's against us. It was like we should
have been better, We should have put ourselves in that position.
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I like the accountability from James Cook. Instead of joining
the wine fest, which is like the cool thing to do,
all the cool kids are doing it, we're just whining
and complaining and making more of officiating than there is
to make. And James Cook went the other way. I
really respect him for.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That because he is a player, and I know that
there are players at times that will talk about efficient.
We saw I think it was will Will Anderson who
talked about DIFFI shading, you know, after they lost to
the Chiefs, which is funny because he didn't talk about
any of the sacks. Is offensive line allowed? But nonetheless,
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a lot of players view officiating isn't. It can be incorrect.
They could be a nuisance at times. They don't get
everything right, Like we know those things right. But as players,
you're taught. I do believe in this Brian, that you
control the outcome of the game by your play on
the field, okay, And and that is something that we
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take to heart and that's the way we play the game.
So Cook when he says that that's that, that's that
that mindset right, Like the officials, Yes, yes, they do
make mistakes. They do make errors, but we can overcome
that if you're good enough. It's not like the Chiefs
have gone every call now, for they had they had
last year in Baltimore in the ANFC championship game, there
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were two straight holding panels that took away a touchdown.
It took away a first down, and I think that
she's at to punk the football or one of the two.
They don't complain about that. They just go make the
next play. And that's how we are wired as as professionals.
And that's why I appreciate what James Cook said because
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that's the way most of us think.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Of course, when you get to the you know, when
you get to you know, our chairman. Now, yeah, you
might complain a little bit, you might do that, but
when you're playing, that's not the way you think.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, it's interesting. It's I had a flashback. There was
like this football camp in high school. And I won't
bore you with the whole story, but we're playing a
game and we clearly had a first down, clearly, and
the head coach at the time, his name is Brian Burkhardt.
He looked at me. I was complaining I'm like, it's
the first time we got the first down by like
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two yards, and he goes, I'll never forget it. He goes,
You're not always gonna get good officiating. It's so true,
Like it's absolutely the case. And I started thinking about
this too, Jeff, where on the heels of the AFC
title game and the week of whining that it's been.
What's the whiniest you've been, maybe completely rightfully so about
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a game, about a call, about something. What has caused
your voice to go up and octave? Like, well, what
do you mean? Like, like, can you think of anything
off the top of your head. I've got something on
my list that I think I was rightfully whiny about,
but it's it's got to be the whiniest thing on
my resumes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You have one, oh as like a play as a
fan as.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Could be fan player, anything that you were like just
you were on one right, like you were vocal about
something not going the right way.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah. I don't think Michael Michael Dyer was down yet.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean I think he, oh yeah, the Auburn Auburn Oregon.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, no, Roody interested all of course, but.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, no, no, no, But that was that was the
National Title Game, and he was tackled and he kind
of held himself up. Depending on which way you saw it,
you thought he was down, he got back up and
ran for a touchdown and it stood right, Yes, it stood, Yeah, Yeah,
it stood.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I would say the NFC title game from a couple
of years ago between the Saints and the Rams. You
referenced this at the beginning of the show, where look, man,
it's past interference all day. If the correct call is made,
you take a knee three straight plays. The Saints kick
a chip shot field goal, They're going to the super Bowl,
And I realized to your point, they had a chance
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in overtime. There were other chances before that. But again,
if the officials make the right call, the game is over.
That that's different to me than the beginning of the
fourth quarter, or if they rule that at first down
with Josh Allen, there's still a long way to go.
Let's not forget this is a team that blew a
game in the same stadium in the playoffs when they
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had a lead with thirteen seconds to go and the
Bills still lost that gif you have essentially the entire
fourth quarter to go. That's way different than the NFC
Championship game between the Rams and the Saints. That has
to be at the top of my whiny list is
the Saints got absolutely hosed.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I agree with you on that, But even then, like
as a as a player, you know, I again, like
the Saints had opportunities.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, they did to.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Make more plays than.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Just but the Rams did too. That's how I look
at it. The Rams had just as many opportunities they made.
The plant be in the same situation.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sure, sure, But I again, I I just I appreciate
when players are honest like that because that's the way
we actually think.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I do too, And hats off to James Cook for
saying it the way that he did. I love it.
I also think this too, Jeff is I think the
shame of all of this is people are so hung
up on some of the favorable calls that they're completely
under selling how special that Chiefs have been, how special
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Mahomes is. Specifically some of these stats. He's one of
three players already with three Super Bowls and two NFL MVPs.
On the list is Brady and Montana. That's it. It's Brady, Montana,
and Mahomes. The guy's not even thirty years old already
and he's got three super Bowl rings and two MVPs.
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He's possibly the fastest to four super Bowl rings and
two league MVPs before he's thirty years old. We're sitting
here talking about Josh allenhead the first den Baby Baba
had screenshots of this was holding How was this not
called against the Chiefs? And it's like, oh my gosh,
do you think the Chiefs? That's all this dynasty is
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is a couple of favorable calls. It's so dumb what
it's been reduced to.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think people believe that because they just again it's
it's hard to explain football sometimes with just having to
watch the game and give the results of the game,
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Like it's it's more difficult to it takes more time
to go and talk and watch like, hey, this is
why this happened, right, this is why that last play
Josh Allen, you know on fourth down got fooled. Like
there's are more difficult discussions to have than it is
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just say the rest, the rest screwed it. The rest,
Like those decisions that there's those are tougher decisions, and
so I understand why people go in that direction. It's
also for content, it's much easier to talk about the officials.
Then again, I don't know how people listening need me
to break down or want me to break down the
fourth and five play. It's much easier to be like, the
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official screwed everyone than it is just to actually have
a discussion about football. So that's when I think too.
You know, you know, when in the when there when
there is when there's there's no answers for something, I
feel like we tend to turn to conspiracy, right and again,
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when it's it's hard, I think at times to just
talk through the game, so we turn to conspiracies and
we turn to it's it's you know, it's all those things, right.
So that's why I think this.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But I do wonder to your point, because it's hanging fruit.
You know, it's gonna sell. People want to believe that
the fix is in. Yeah, So if you go on
your social media platform of choice and you say that
and then you show a screenshot or a video and
then it just riles everybody up, I wonder how many
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of those people are like, yeah, this is kind of dumb,
but they're gonna buy this, So let's just lean into it,
you know what I mean, I'm sure it's out there.
Not everybody that's putting that content out there believes it
can't be. There's got to be someone that's like, yeah,
it's gonna sell though, so let's just go with it, right,
And it just sucks that it gets that type of
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reaction because people want to believe it. They don't want
to believe that they had the incorrect pick. They want
to believe that the fix is in and it's rigged,
so they're gonna buy it, hook line and sinker.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
This is why we say, if if you have not
been betting on Kansas City and you think this is rigged.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, so yeah, or bet everything you own on the Eagles.
I'm sorry, I bet everything you own on the Chiefs
the upcoming game because the fix is supposedly in. You know,
it's it's I don't know, man, it's just a complete
waste of time. But people are gonna believe that. By
the way, real fast, what did you think about the
(12:17):
Xavier Worthy catch? What are your two cents on that one?
Because I got mine with the cold Bishop had it
initially because I keep on saying, like the ball touched
the ground, the ball the ball can touch the ground. Okay,
like we're not with bird of Manual in the NFC
title game in ninety nine that season, Like the ball
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couldn't touch the ground back then, Now it can. It's
a lot of the ground doesn't help you. Yeah, I
thought it was the right call. So the ball can
touch the ground. I thought Bishop had it initially, but
he's got to complete the process of the catch. And
while he was in the process of doing that, if
you're worthy had the ball and the tie goes to
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the offensive guy, that was the right call.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I thought it was totally fine. I thought it was right.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, And at worst, that's incomplete. There's no way it's
an interception, zero chance. They both had the ball. It's
not the Bills football. So worst case scenario, that's incomplete.
There was a defensive holding call. The Chiefs would have
had a first down anywhere you're talking about twenty some
yards of the position.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So I commented the time that that Sehan McDermott, you know,
him challenging that call made no sense because the loss
of the time out for twenty yards, especially the Chiefs
are moving the ball, felt a little bit wasteful. Yeah,
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you would want that challenge and turn out they didn't
need it. But I thought challenging that for twenty yards
was silly and it wasn't gonna change either.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, they could have used that time out at the end, right,
they only had two time outs instead of three?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right where that was the first half?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
What the Xavier worthy was? Ye wasn't it take it back?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I don't know it was end of the first half.
I thought the.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Final like the final drive right there. But yeah, you
might be right. I think you know, I'll give the
Chiefs credit. No one's talking about this real fast because
it's all conspiracy theories in the NFL is rigged, And
how many teams wouldn't have iced the game the way
the Chiefs? It was great? Right, Like, let's trust Mahomes,
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Let's throw the ball, Let's not run it straight into
the defensive line three straight plays and then either have
to kick a long field goal where we're only up six,
or or we miss and they're in decent field position,
or we have to punt it and they're only down
by three. You know what I mean, Like, let's try
to ice it with our best player, And that's exactly
(14:54):
what they did. There are a lot of teams.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They would get too considerate and they were very like
easy passes.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's right, they're running back.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I thought it was it was great.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It was great, Jeff. How many times we saw the Bengals.
Remember early in the season they were playing the Ravens.
Game goes to overtime, Derrick Henry fumbles, They run three
conservative plays, all running plays, pick up hardly in the yards.
They settle for a fifty some yard field goal, they
miss it, and the Ravens go on to win. You
(15:27):
know what I mean, like conservative to a fault and
the Chiefs didn't do that. You know what I loved.
I loved Chris Jones. So this is right after Dalton
Kincaid didn't catch that ball on fourth and five. There's
still time left, Bills have two timeouts, and Chris Jones,
it's like a postgame handshake with Dion Dawkins. It's like
(15:48):
dapping them up and be like, hey man, it's a
good game. It's not over at all. But Chris Jones was.
He knew it was over because he trust the offense.
He's been through this whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I like that Chris Jones was so emotional in that moment.
Because think about this is his fifth super Bowl, Yeah,
explained in Yeah, and you would think that at this time,
you know, he's done it so many years, Like how
how can this be something that like he makes him
(16:19):
so emotional? And I love to see that he was.
But for those who missed it, like there was a
video that he's put out or NFL films like, yes,
of the final play of the game, it was just
a video on Chris Jones and the sidelines Peter Ray
against the first down and Chris Jones kind of breaks
down on the bench, starts kind of tearing up a
little bit, and I just I love that emotion, man,
Like we asked her athletes all the time to show
(16:41):
us that emotion and to be themselves, and a lot
of times they don't, right, they just yeah, their pr machines,
and but in this, in this situation, that was certainly
not the case. And I appreciated it. I don't know
if you did, Brian, but yeah, I liked that we
saw Chris Jones care like I was caring. Was awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Totally agree And I was kind of this same way
when p Ryan cashed my my bell.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, final play freaking beauty.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I I'm the I never I can never get the
benefit of the doubts. I always I always get screwed.
I always get, you know, I get I get gained
well right where I hope he's okay, obviously, But to
have someone with an over rushing and he has I
need one half yard more and he gets concussed in
the opening kickoff of the second half.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Gosh, not great, right, not great. I was in on
the the gain well in game line because it's like
you could see where the game is headed.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I had I laddered him too. I had I had
a ladder one hundred plus like I took one hundred
plus yards at plus like eleven hundred, and he would
have gotten it. There was a Shipley carries that was
there were his carries that half.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Shipley had all the carries at the end because gain
what do you have seven?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He had eight and his number was eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh gosh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wonder like if there's an opportunity to fade Shipley, if
Shipley's numbers are up.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
This week, absolutely he's not gonna get a carry.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No crack sent over those props this morning, and one
of them I can't even find anywhere, Like, I don't know,
there's no Tako Tara number on in just not in
Las Vegas. So because Thursday yesterday was the day that
Las Vegas releases all their props for the Super right now,
the you know, domestic sports books have had him up
(18:25):
for a while now, but they're wagers that I can
get eventually, but we can't, like we can't get that
Pachaco cream Pachaco gainwell wagers right until that will pop later,
that it will pop later. It just won't pop. Now,
I've made those wages before. But yeah, it's uh, I
(18:45):
can't wait. I'm gonna have the sweating Sunday.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'll tell you that absolutely all right. He's Jeff Schwartz,
I'm Brian. Now we're in for two bros to a
Cup of Joe here coming up next. I am officially
a beard. It requires an explanation. Yeah, we'll get that
to you.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
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Speaker 1 (19:20):
App's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian no in for two pros
and a cup of Joe here in Fox Sports Radio,
coming to you live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Jeff,
you have disappointed me in grand fashion not being a
metal head. You fit the profile. I think you'd make
a tremendous metal head. How do you feel about Nirvana's
(19:42):
you know it's not heavy heavy? You're good with them? Yeah, okay,
good to know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean sure. I mean I don't listen to our
songs often. I'm not a sign No, it's talking no
if it comes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So if you were, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like normally like lambagatas, I have to take my headphones off.
Oh man, No, I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You hit shuffle real fast, that's what you're doing. Yeah, gotcha.
So I'm officially a beard, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Join your club. I've been one.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, you're officially a beard. You were a beard before
I was. But I you know, I'm I'm in the
game now. Yeah. So last night you were mentioning this
at the West Gate they released all their super Bowl
prop bets.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, and this is a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Bit I didn't know this history. You might know better
than me. But Crack said, so Bill Krackenberger, he's a
professional sports handicapper. All three of us are together on
Sunday mornings, myself, Jeff and Crack and so Crack he says, hey, man,
you want to if you're not doing anything, you know
Crag He's like, if you're not doing nothing, come on
down to the west Gate. He explains the whole thing.
(20:59):
So before or it was Draft Kings and Fan Duel
and bet MGM and all that, it was the Westgate
super Book and they would release their super Bowl prop
bets and there'd be a line out the door. There'd
be one hundred and fifty people and you'd wait in
line and you would get two super Bowl prop bets,
(21:19):
and then you had to go to the back of
the line and wait again so you can get two
more prop bets in. And he said, that's changed because
we have all the online stuff. But some of the
like hardcore dudes that have done this for years and
it's sort of like a tradition. It's a tip of
the cap to Westgate. So we get together and we
still do this. So if you're not doing nothing, you know,
(21:42):
come on down. And so I did and it was great.
And so I'm in line Jeff and Crack says, hey,
catch this, and he throws me a five thousand dollars
chip like a Westgate poker chip. And then he's he
says to me, he's like, all right, I need a
two thousand or as much as they'll take on this
(22:02):
one prop, and same thing on this other prop. And
I'm like, okay, all right cool. And I'm like all right.
And he told me he's like, one of them's minus
one twenty, the other one's plus one one twenty. If
the odds are any different than that, we don't want it.
I'm like, all right, cool. And so I get up
there and I put the bets in. One of the
(22:24):
bets that was supposed to be plus one twenty was
plus one ten, okay, and I kind of set it
out loud Crack cracks right there. I'm like, okay, so
plus one ten and I just wait, I didn't say
any of them. I'm like, all right, screw just throw
it in there, like it's cracks funny, what do I care? Yeah,
you know, And so I make this bet. The funny
(22:46):
thing was, now I go back in line, right, So
it's time for me to enter my bet. So I
get all the way there, I get to the front,
and I'm like, yeah, I'll take I'll take under six
and a half total punts because no one wants to
punt anymore. I'll take under six and a half for
seventy five dollars, right, each one of cracks bets. One
(23:11):
was two thousand, and one was twenty four hundred. How
obvious is that they call it a beard because you're
entering a bet for somebody else. It's as if you're
putting a fake costume, like the old Bobby Bobby Valentine,
you know, oh yeah, yeah, you're putting like a fake
beard on so you can enter a bet for somebody.
How obvious was I have a couple of two thousand
(23:33):
dollars bets and then I'm back in line making a
seventy five dollar bet.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So when we were Mississippi together a couple of years
ago for this remote that we did all three of us,
he handed me ten grand and was like, go, can
you make these five waiters for me? And the sports
book was like nope. I'm not gonna let that happen.
And immediately he limited me like, we don't know you
same thing I wasn't like that was the price of
(23:58):
the of the you know the thing I just I
love how I mean, it's his job, like he's just like, yeah,
just hits these numbers. Man. The thing that's that's tough
is like he's not doing sides and totals very often.
Even though he's been on the Chief's money line a
couple of weeks in a row, he is again this week.
I think, Yeah, it's taking you know, Jahan Donson over
(24:20):
one over point five receptions. It's taking jujuish machine. Like
it's all these wages where you're like, oh boy, like
it can go. You know, it's the margin of error
on that is very small, it is. And but though
I mean, look, man, he's he makes money, tell you
that he does. He's not doing it for free.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You know what kills me, yeah, is it reminds me
of my dad. My dad will screw up names all
the time, like on our like the Saint Louis Cardinals,
you know what I mean, Like he's a die hard fan,
he's from that area. I'm the same way and so
we'll talk Cardinals a lot of times during the season.
(24:58):
My dad will just steadily grew up names. But that's
my dad. That's what he does. And Crack is great
at what he does. And it still blows my mind
that hell, and this is not a shot at all.
Is actually I mean this as a compliment. You don't
have to know what you think you need to know, Like,
you don't need to know these rosters up and down.
(25:19):
You could mess up a prominent player's name and it
doesn't matter. Like it's all about the number. It's all
about the line. And he's got the experience where he
knows which way to lean.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
He said, he doesn't watch that like he doesn't know
like football like we do. He just he just has
the numbers and and his wagers and he does it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, it's it's wild, it's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So you got nothing besides beautiful, Yeah, it's right. He's
like Russell Crowe over there, you know, Yeah, you got nothing,
but Cracks plays nothing on you. I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, I took the Chiefs in the over. I
was gonna do that anyways, whether that was on a
couple of well a couple of props. I am, well,
so he took. He played something that I was gonna play.
I was gonna play the hundred all the Hopkins stuff.
Unders yeah, because he has done nothing for the Chiefs
and he just can't move, and he's older, and I
think the Eagles corners will play really well against him.
(26:13):
I like so far for myself. I like mahomes over
past attempts. I just think they have to pass the football.
I only run the ball very well in this game,
and it's gonna be a pass I took. By the way,
on bet MGM, there was a first Chiefs reception. Okay,
(26:34):
Xavier Worthy was plus seven hundred and Hollywood Brown was
plus one thousand. I took both of those. Again, I
have the over and I have Chiefs money line. Yeah,
I just haven't. I also just barely sort of finished
watching film from this last week, so I'm still kind
of started catching up on those. I just haven't. I
(26:56):
don't know, man, what have you made? I like the
wager I made that one.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I went with. Uh, I'm on the over as well.
I think it's a fast track, but I think the
points are gonna be scored. I mean, you look at
the Eagles. They just have a lot to work with. Man,
they got a lot of firepower. I like Casey's defense.
They've been leaky against the run first two games. Yeah,
Like Mixon ran for over one hundred uh, James Cook
(27:26):
had a great second half, got over eighty yards rushing.
Sakwan Barkley has been phenomenal this season, and Chiefs have
gotten leaky in their rush defense. And even if they're
doing everything they can to, yeah, they prioritize slowing down Saquon.
They can be somewhat effective. Man. You got aj Brown
and DeVante Smith and god it, that's just a lot
(27:48):
of fun in that offensive line. And Mahomes. Mahome's gonna
have a game because he always does. And I don't
know how good the Chiefs is gonna be able to
run the ball. I don't know they're gonna be effective
at all. And so if Mahomes just slinging it around,
we're scoring points, man, I think we're scoring points. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The only prop I disagreed with the Crack sent over
like already, I'm like, I just I didn't play it.
The Mahomes under rushing props he sent over I under
six and a half rush attempts. Yeah, I think Pat's gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Run the ball a lot and everything.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, the kneel downs also, if I think Chiefs are
gonna win, he'll have some neel downs and that that
kind of screws that that wager a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I like the under six and a half punts.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I love it. That's a great wager.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
No one's punting, man, no one wants to punt. You
got to have like fourth and fifteen at your own
twenty five, you know, to be all right, screw it.
I guess we don't have an option.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No one's punned in. And even though even though the
oprah was seven, I'll take you know, six and a half.
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I still like that.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just you know, it's it's hard with one game
and then just like tailing other people, I don't have
room for my own wagers. I told you, I mean,
I'm either going to be broke or like a something.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was thinking too, Jeff. Where you look at the
Chiefs running backs catching the ball, because again I don't
know how much they're gonna run it like they're running
game is.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I think under I think unders for that makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You could either go under with the rushing yards of
those backs, or you could go over receiving yards because
they're all three of them very modest. Whether it's Kareem
Hunt or it's Pacheco or it's Pet Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm I actually think I probably need to wager on
the Mahomes. I have so many. I gotta check I
have this app I started using that I can like track, uh,
I can tracks my wagers like it just and I
think that I just have so many. I gotta make
sure I don't I don't double up here. I do
think that the Mahomes under over receptions, I mean over tempts.
(30:00):
I'm gonna have to make it just there. It's at
thirty six and a half right now, it's it's a
lot and it's plus money. So I'm hoping it comes
back down to thirty five and a half and I'll
take that. He's gonna have to so the Chiefs will
will they have not run the ball with so let
their left guards and all pro Joe Toney, he moved
to left tackle because they've had left tackles. He's battling
(30:20):
his butt off. He's playing as hard as possible he's
doing a great job, but the sacrifice is the run game.
The run game has not been as good when he's
not been in a left guard, and against the Eagles,
it's almost gonna be worse. You have Jordan Davis, Jordan
Davis on that side, then you have Jalen Carter on
the other side. Like, you're just not gonna run the ball,
in my opinion, in this game very well, unless you
get on the edges and you find different ways to
get creative. And so to me, it's a Kareem Hunt game, right,
(30:44):
It's a run the ball in the middle of the
tackles with your bigger back, and it's it's finding. So
the Chiefs use swing passes, you know, those little fly
sweeps like those are considered quote runs in their offense,
if that makes sense, Brian, Yeah, So they find ways
to run the ball without running the football. So that's
(31:05):
why I think Mahomes pass attempts is a wager that
I'm gonna have to make for this game.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I hear you. The only thing and this isn't
like really a pushback is just kind of like food
for thought. If you think the Chiefs are gonna win
the game, I'm looking at every playoff game, obviously, including
the Eagles, right, and no quarterback that one. Its game
(31:32):
has gotten to where we have to get to thirty
seven pass attempts. The closest one in a winning effort
was Jaden Daniels of the Commanders. That was at Tampa.
He threw it thirty five times in a win. But
everybody else in a win it's like twenty something. You
might might have even gotten there. So that's the only
(31:54):
thing I worry about. I like what you're thinking. I
just don't think Casey's running game is going to be
very effective at all. I'd be very surprised if they
have like good success, which is just moderate success, you know.
I the Eagles defensive front is fantastic and the Chiefs
are not running it, so Mahome's gonna have to throw it.
(32:16):
But man, when when you get into that second quarter
and if they have any type of lead, you start
leaning on the run a little bit more. I just
wonder if that factors in it all. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I I'm I'm aligned with you there. The thing about
you know, I think that makes this, you know, sometimes difficult,
is you have to wager on these games essentially with
the idea that the game goes a certain way and
(32:53):
if it doesn't go that way, you lose a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Is you have to think about oh yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You have to you have to think about, essentially, how
do I wager in the game in a way that
if it doesn't go the way that I think it's
going to go, I don't lose all my money.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, well, I think to your point right there, the
Chiefs have won seventeen straight one possession games. The Eagles
roster is so good. I just don't see the Chiefs
running away and hiding, which if you're on a Mahomes
pass attempt over, you want it to be a close
game where he's still throwing it. You don't want them
(33:29):
to be ahead by ten, fourteen points and all of
a sudden they start doing their four minute offense and
running the ball a little bit more. Right, So, I
think it's gonna be a close game. I would be
very surprised if it's not a close game. So it
would be if it's the Chiefs are running away and hiding,
I shake my shoulder, shrug my shoulder, like, eh, I
didn't see that one coming. But I'm not upset about
(33:50):
my pass attempts. Bet.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, I think this game, we both think it's an
over game, which means it sort of has to go.
It has to be a pass fest, I think, right yeah,
and I I just I think both teams are gonna
be in the mindset of score, score score, go for
a fourth down, like yeah, we gotta just try our
(34:15):
best to get this as score as many points as
asap and get it done as soon as possible. And
remember the lastup role that they had there was a
defensive touchdown as well in.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
That game, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't know if I don't feel that you can't
you can't handicap for that in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I know that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
But there does feel like that that's sort of certainly
a possibility in this one as well.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely sure. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
If this is gonna be such a it's gonna be.
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It will be. I'm really looking forward to it. H
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Speaker 2 (35:09):
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're in for two
Pros and a cup of Joe here, come it up next. Wow,
So the league says this has worked out quite a bit.
Are you in agreement? Dive into that. We're live from
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Speaker 3 (35:27):
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Speaker 1 (35:37):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. In for two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here live from the Tireck
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Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The very very awkward beginning to the Lean Cohen. That's right,
the New Day and Age, if you will. So this
was how awkward it was in the introductory press conference.
It doesn't do it justice because it's his whole facial expression.
(36:47):
Could not be more awkward, Jeff. Now I didn't realize
he redid it right. So someone got in his ear
and was like, yo, Lean, yeah, yeah, we got to talk.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
That was bad.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And so he does it again and it's still awful.
Now again you can't see what he does, but he
kind of puts his hand up to his his like
his mouth, and he's like do like he's sharing a
secret or so like do.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
This is how it sounds.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
All here we go, Jeff, Dude, we got we got
problems over here. So are his country? This is not good?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So here here is here is why I I have
an issue with this. Okay, It's not that he's that
he said duvall weirdly. It's that I want my coach
to show their personality. And this feels very forced and
(37:49):
uncalled for. And like him and I understand the idea
of trying to fit in, but no one would care
if you didn't say duval Like you're the head coach
of the of the of the Jackson. You don't have
to say duvall at your press conference. Just hey, Jacks fans,
it's had to be here, you know, Aaron Aaron Quinn
got up there in New York and didn't say you know,
he just got there, was like, we're gonna wine, We're
(38:11):
gonna be I just I don't. I think it's just
so awkward when you go that direction, when you go
like pandering to the fan base, like it was.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Like Brian Kelly, is Brian Kelly going to l s
U having a Southern accent? My family? That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Wait, he doesn't have a He doesn't have a.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
U does not have like a hardcore southern drawl. He
does not have that.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
No oh, I thought he did.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He tried to develop one and it failed miserably.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
The same thing like the the code switching that's on
that term recently, little code switch. You know, when he's
up north, he's talking going to northern when he's down
South talking like a Southerner. Yeah, I just uh, I
used you know, I've been to South now, you know
for a while. I just used. I just say, y'all,
that's my, that's my.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's like, uh the Departed. Remember when Mark Wahlberg he
was like, you had different accents, didn't you. You were
like different people. Yes, right, that's exactly what you're talking
about right there. Yeah. Hey, by the way, the dynamic kickoff.
The NFL says it's produced fifty seven percent of an
increase in returns. This season been.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
A success, right, I think certainly has.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yes, absolutely it has. Hey, this fill in show has
been a raging success. Always good with you, Jeff Schwartz,
talk to your Sunday
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