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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I tell all of them, reak it up, break it down,
back it up, mess it up, back it up, raak
it up, back it up. I tell all of them,
what do I rake exactly? The cash? Oh, you rake
(00:59):
up the cash, you back up the the dump trap?
Well that too if you got one.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Uh oh, this is a stripper song. Like a strippers,
I gotta show him some love. So that's the second
one you've done.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
As that's correct. I figure that that's correct too. I
just figure that. You know. For me, the idea of
doing this in particular was based around the amount of
energy that is in the beats of stripper music.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, have you noticed strip clubs are different around different
parts of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't really know about strip clubs, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So there's a guy that I know who looks a
lot like me and almost has the same exact name,
and just so happened to be in the Charles in
South Carolina area at the same time I was, years
and years ago, and he was telling me about how
there was this strip club I think it was called
(02:10):
Southern Bell in Charleston, and a friend of his who
was female, she yeah, well, I'm assuming, I'm assuming, I'm
assuming we're still identifying as that, but who knows. Things
(02:30):
have changed. It's been a long ass time, but she was.
She was a friend of mine out there who said,
I got to take you to the Southern Did I
say me?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Not me?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Definitely not me, the friend of a friend of you know,
somebody else but decided I want to take you to
the Southern Bell. I was new to town. I had
no idea what it was. And the deal was it
was right next it was connected to a liquor store
and you could drink inside the club. But I guess
(03:01):
the you could either pay twenty dollars cover charge to
get in, or you could pay ten if you bought
drinks at the liquor store to bring them in. Let
me get this straight, the cover charge is less as
long as I bring in beer inside the club.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Said yeah. I was like, soyob, so what's the catch.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So brought in a bucket of beers and sat there
and watched some of the worst stripping I'd ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh darn, the worst strip.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's just, you know, there's just in different parts of
the country, it just the strip club experience looks a
little different, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You know. So, yeah I'm not, but you're you're a
strip club connoissewer. No, not really, long as to a couple.
I mean, I know I know about strippers, Yeah, long
as stranger to them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There there was a place out here that had a
bar next to a strip club, and buddies wanted to
go into this And by the way, for everybody, just
so you know, this is a long time ago, at
least a month, And so buddies wanted to go into
this strip club, and next to the strip club was
this bar, and they all just hung out in the
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strip club, you know, doing whatever they were going to do.
And I just stayed at the bar. I was like,
what's the point, You're just kind of go in there
and do what nothing. So we just stayed here, have
a couple of cocktails and then walk on out of
there and hope that nobody's waiting by the car with
some sort of a weapon to try and take whatever
you had on you that you didn't spend on a stripper.
So now that I know that that is a tribute
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to stripper song, it just sparked a memory, and I
realize you've now done two of those. I didn't even
know if there is a third one that you could
think of.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
There are plenty, Okay, there's plenty where that one came from,
said Drek.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
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take you all the way up until nine am Eastern time,
six o'clock Pacific. All right, So I got to know
training camps right around the corner fourth of July, is
(05:22):
this Friday. For NFL players, this really is the last
week that you can get it in. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
My son came home, he came home for the week,
but he ain't gonna get it in. I'm gonna get
it out of him. I'll tell you that, because we're
gonna get some work in today. He got lucky. Yesterday
was my birthday, but he came in for that. He
came in for my birthday, so that was cool. But yeah,
you know, he's uh, you know, he's he's here, and yes,
(05:57):
the answer is yes. This is that This is that
one last moment where you get the opportunity to kind
of you know, get whatever it is you got in
inside of your out of you and so that you
can lock in on on the grind of the season.
You gotta get through training camp, get through training camp,
(06:19):
get the regular season. Next thing, you know, it's like,
this is it. This is this is that last moment
before you start the journey to the other side of
the basically the year. You know you're gonna close the
year out if you're playing well, or to Thanksgiving somewhere
in there and around there. So yeah, this is this
(06:41):
is that one moment in time to you know, have
your last whatever it's going to be. Go jump in
the pool, go jump in the ocean, you know, just
be at home, whatever it may be. But this is
that last moment for.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Sure, because when you mentioned it, you know, like before
you get back to the grind, basically the NFL, Like
just from the NFL standpoint, if everything goes well, if
your team ends up playing well enough after this week,
you belong.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
To them for seven months. That's right.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's wild to think about, Like you belong to them
for seven months. You'll get a bye week, but who
knows any if you're banged up or a rehabbing part
of that, but for seven months, you belong to them.
And I do wonder if that's something too when we
see these issues of player arrests or off field incidents
or things like that, especially around the Fourth of July holiday,
(07:37):
is because they feel what you're mentioning, dude, after this,
we got nothing but grind, So let's just let it
all loose. And some can do it within the parameters
of the legal system or the you know, the illegal
fireworks system, and some can't. And those are just the repercussions.
(07:58):
But it is interesting to think because I think for
most people, you just get into this typical Monday through
Friday ish type of nine to five grind. We're in
the NFL, You've got all this free time, and then
all of a sudden, you just don't that's over. Like
you belong to them for a significant amount of time
throughout the course of the year, and so you just wonder,
(08:18):
all right, so, who's going to be the first one
to make a mistake, Who's going to get in trouble?
How's this whole thing in a play out? Because this
and the fact that fourth July is on a Friday,
you know, mixed in with a whole weekend afterwards, I
feel like probably going to be an incident or two
this week. Not trying to be negative, but I feel
like we'll be reporting on some sort of an off
field issue in the NFL this week at some point.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What do you think about that you want.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To place that wager? No, a little police blodder wager.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Not interested you think somebody's going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
What's the wildest before training camp party that you can
remember that you can tell, not not giving names, but like,
what's the scene, Like how many people I.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Don't feel like there's a wild party before you go
to training camp. I will say I threw a wild
party Fourth of July slash my birthday every year, and
that was pretty wild. And if you're from DC and
(09:29):
you're around my age or a little older, you've probably
attended it. I mean, it's pretty wild. One year there
was a shooting. I mean it was you know, people's
emotions was turned up.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wait a second, was this open? Was this open to
the public.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It was kind of open to the public, it was.
It was at one the one year we did it
at a we you know, me, Julian Peterson, we started it.
We we did it. We would do charity so we'd
help help the kids, do do a football camp, go
to the children's hospital, visit the kids, donations, stuff like that,
(10:12):
and then we would have a rap party like basically
wrapping up the festivities that took place because we did
a bowling We did bowling too, and and so we
would do a rap party at at a mansion. One
year we even did it at my house and it
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would be a really really good time. It's all I
can tell you. That's it. That's all I'm going to
give you. Because that it was a really but one year,
one year dude, this do so I'll tell you how
it ended up leading to a shooting. It was a
ar tyro Gotti and Floyd Mayweather were fighting. You remember
that one.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh, I love Arturo Gotti. By the way, Netflix, you
want to do a documentary, find out how he really died.
That's what I want to know. Love our Oh got him? Sorry,
go ahead, no worse.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So it was, you know, it was kind of like
a party, cookout party, pool party. But there was a nice,
like a super nice theater room in this house, so
we had usage of the house. We're in the theater
room and there was these two dudes and this one
dude in particularly. You know how it is when there's
a lot of pretty women around and you've been drinking
(11:26):
or you've been smoking whatever it is, and you know,
dark liquor just sometimes just isn't the right move. You
just got to know what your kryptonite is. And this
one dude was just he was just talking so crazy
and this, that and the other, and he was starting
to scare people in the room. So the security removed him.
You know, they gave him a warning. He got a warning.
(11:48):
He kept on going because you know, some dudes got
this weird thing that they think that they're impressing women
by talking crazy. It's it's something that I've never understood.
And if a woman is turned on by you acting
in a belligerent, violent way, then you know, I guess
(12:12):
nature ran its course. If y'all ended up together and
it was because of her liking that, I mean, that's
some weirdest to me. But some dudes nonetheless think that
girls like that that type of stuff. Anyway, he ends
up getting removed from the room. Fight is over. Everybody's
like dispersing to go back to the party, and I'm
walking and I hear like this commotion and I'm walking
(12:34):
and as I'm walking by, I see the commotion and
he said, I don't give it up about LeVar Arrington,
Da da da, Who the does he think he is?
And I looked at him and he looked at me,
and it was like that moment in time where you
had to decide, like do I stay with what I
was saying or do I like be like, you know,
say something different. I don't know, but it was like
(12:55):
we met eyes. I saw him, he saw me, or
I saw him, you know, and he saw me, we
saw each other. Whatever, and he took a pause and
then he just turned right on back up. And then
the security just they you know, they removed him from
the house. Now, what happened after that, They they walked
him as gentlemen. They walked him to his car to
(13:18):
make sure him and his boys got into the car
and got off the property so that, you know, the
party could continue on what happened at the car. You know,
I don't know, man, there's different accounts. There's different accounts
of what happened and how it happened. All I know
was we heard. We heard. That's all I heard. You know,
(13:38):
we heard it, and God, needless to say, the party
was over. But I used to do them. I used
to do them. The first one I ever did, I
did in Fairfax and Chef Ad my boy shouts out
to Chef Ad. He was grilling and it was only
supposed to be like a handful of us Like that
(13:59):
was just you know, that was It's funny. Julius Peppers
and Ryan Sims, they played together at at UNC. I
had them. They were in town, they were we were
all hanging out. They were at the party and we
were just hanging out and it turned into a real party,
like the cops came everything, like, you know, the music
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is reaching the road, you know what I mean, Like
you got to you got to turn your music down
because the neighbors are complaining about it. I was like,
I'm so sorry. I mean, we're on you know, some
acres here. I ain't realize that it was that loud,
so we turned the music down. But that was the
first one we ever did, and that one was pretty
That one was pretty intense because I didn't expect anybody,
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like we were expecting like ten fifteen people and we
were watching the NBA Finals and ended up being like,
I don't even know the number. I couldn't even count.
It was just it was just my house was full
of peace. And which, by the way, if you were there,
fu because after the party was over, when you when
all the smoke cleared, like all my DVD my DVD
(15:09):
collection was all gone ransacked. They yeah, they was taking
my sneakers was missing, like I had some stuff missing.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
By the way. That was the thing I remember that
back of going to parties in high school where people
thought that was cool. You'd go to somebody would have
a party at their parents' house, and then somebody would
steal stuff from the party. Why, like do you know,
like they're they're walking the plank trying to make sure
that their parents don't find out about this party. And
even if they do a great job cleaning up, the
(15:38):
dad's gonna come home and go what happened to all
the DVDs? What happened to this?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
How did and that's just a thing, Like you've got
these petty criminals.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And them Joys was like twenty dollars each, twenty thirty dollars,
twenty five dollars. What was it for DVDs? Black? Back then?
I had Blu rays, I had like they took them, man, Yeah,
they took that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
If you look at a solid DVD collection from back
in the day, thousands of dollars spent, but you don't
think about it because you're doing it one at a time,
and then you look at it as you have a
mass this collection, you've got thousands of dollars. Like CDs
back in the day, if you got a whole booklet
of CDs, you go back through there. Man, CDs are
like fourteen to fifteen bucks apiece for an.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Album, So so do that math. Yeah, but it was
cool that. You know, you you blow the steam off,
You blow that steam off, and then you get you
get the work. Yep, you know it's time to get
you check it, you get your mind right to check
in and then you check in for cat and then
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it starts. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
We'll be safe out there, everybody. Yeah, don't party too
hard man. One last ride. Uh, it is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up in
about twenty minute from now. It's a Tuesday. We've got
another edition of would you rather here? And that'll be
yours on FSR. Kind Of an up and down week
for the one and only Tyreek Hill, very up and down.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The good news is he did beat a Liles in
a race, so that's the that's the good news.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He didn't win the race though.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well no but I mean he did finish ahead of Noel.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's funny. He didn't win the race though he did
not win well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, you know, Hill versus Lyles is like the
next great you know racing racing few that we've got here.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
A bet I heard Barry J. Blige's sister seeing the
start the national anthem before. Yeah, believe you me not
the same. Just because your sibling has that gift does
not believe you, does not mean that you have the
same gift. Yeah, that's all I'll say.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is that that bad?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It wasn't that good? Yeah? Okay, well good at all?
It wasn't good at all.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now that being said, you know he did beat the Lyles.
He ran a ten to ten hundred meters dash, which
I mean, that's that's fast.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
That's fast. That just ain't cooking fast. Think that's fast.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
What do you think I would run one hundred meter dash?
And I would, I would say.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Twenty fifteen point five?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You think I'd run it that fast? Sixteen sixteen?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, but you giving me a bike. You can't run
one hundred meters.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I don't think I could, don't. I don't think I
can do it under twenty I think I think you could.
I don't think I could.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, you one hundred percent could do it under twenty seconds, bro,
one hundred percent. I don't know those days. Toddler could
run one hundred meters under twenty second.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's correct, Toddler, Yeah, that's correct. Toddler's have better knees
than me and a better hip. It's not happening, Okay.
I'm like, it's like Forrest Gump when the shackles come off,
you know, the braces come off his legs and he
runs real fast. So I don't run fast at all.
They just come off and I either fall to the
(20:17):
ground or that's that. Those days are over, gone up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. But he
did beat the Lyles and and so congratulations to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That was big. Over the weekend. They had a race
in Texas because they were supposed to race. Yeah, so
he went to hit and be a Liles anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, he also again mixed results. He beat the Liles.
But then he was campaigning earlier this offseason talking about
how he was going to convince Jalen Ramsey to stay
in Miami, only to find out, oh, not only are
we losing Jalen Ramsey, we're also losing John new Smith.
So we have no real answer at tight end. There's
been some speculation about what they're going to do, but
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feels like he posted a sad face emoji upon finding
out about the trade, and it just does feel like
we've kind of mentioned this before the offseason for the Dolphins,
and I've said this, and every time there's a move
made when it comes to this team, it just feels
like we're going one of two directions. Either they're going
(21:21):
to be a fringe playoff team or they're going to
be a disaster. It's gonna go one of two directions.
And I do wonder if this is the year that
Tua stays fully healthy. But they've lost key pieces around him,
and so now we're looking at, you know, he diminished
a diminished version of the Dolphins team that maybe could
have made a run and made some noise had he
been healthy for a couple of these playoff games that
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they've been in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think that that is the key. The losing John
new I get it, you know you can. That's your
starting tight end. He's gone. Losing Jay lib Ramsey, he
played fairly well for the Dolphins in his return. Losing
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those two guys, I don't think, especially adding Minka Fitzpatrick
to the back end of that defense, potentially it doesn't
hurt their defense, and in some cases some regards, you
could think that maybe adding Minca is an improvement, even
though you're not high on them as far as offensively,
(22:31):
as long as to A is playing at a high
level and is on the field, this seems to be
a competitive Dolphins team and I don't think that changes
losing John Nue to the Steelers. I just don't so
whether it's Julian Hill or anyone else that would be
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on the roster that can contribute. I think it all
comes down to what the health and what the participation
level of of of tu a tongue of Ala is
going to be in order to really gauge what the
type of season that they're going to have. They're one
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injury away with Tua from their season going from being
a competitive season to a survival season. Can they can
they survive? Can they make it? But I think their
defense will be good. I think their past rush will
will be improved. Obviously, you know, I got Chopp is
there and he can play some ball. They got some guys,
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so I don't I don't look at this Dolphins team
as they're in any different position than what they were
before it did. Trade took place.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think it was George Pickens who had some comments
towards makeing Fitzpatrick upon Lee because you know, Tyreek Hill's sad.
He's not he's not thrilled with with the decision for
them to move on. But George Pickens took a little
bit of a shot at the Pittsburgh Steelers upon finding
(24:04):
out that Mike Fitzpatrick was being traded and went ahead
and said, let me find the exact quote here, give
me one second, just efforting here on this, but basically
taking a shot at the Steelers, something along the lines
of sunny Days ahead back to Sunny Days, just referencing
the fact that Micka Fitzpatrick is out of Pittsburgh and
(24:25):
now back with the Miami Dolphins. So it's funny to
see how there's a tale to be told by each
Jalen Ramsey clearly was ready to move on from Miami.
George Pickens, who's no longer in Pittsburgh, he's clearly got
a bone to pick with that organization. It just feels
like these are a couple of teams, I would say,
high variants to where you could see it going one
(24:48):
direction or another. Like both these teams, it would not
be a surprise to see either fringe playoff team or
this whole thing just ends up being a disaster either
spot Miami or Pittsburgh. So maybe this maybe the deal
is just a wash, but.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But nonetheless it makes for amazing excellent reality television. You know,
you got to have people that are but hurt, that
have their their feelings in a bunch. You gotta have
people who are excited and happy about opportunities. You gotta
have the drama of somebody's making decisions, and it's got
(25:26):
to work, you know, or you got you're going to
see what the results are from it not working. I mean,
it's just there's so many storylines you can draw from
with the National Football League that even in this slowest
of times, the slowest time in terms of coverage, you're
(25:47):
still having storylines that play out that will ultimately be
a part of why the bigger storylines that may play
out later on take place. I mean, we can look
back on certain times like this and say, okay, you
remember back in July first when that we were talking
(26:09):
about this took place with this organization, and now all
these months later you're seeing the fallout or or like
think about with Saquon, that could have gone either Wayquon
could have disappeared, he could have gone to a you know,
a different team, it had not been what it turned
(26:31):
out to be with the Eagles and the Giants survive
what would have been a media s storm if he
went somewhere, let alone some to a team within the
division and did well. Right, But you can think back
and look back on when it took place, when the
decision took place, which makes it the best, right when
(26:54):
you have those things documented and you can look back
and say, oh, this is what not happened, all right,
and then you fast forward and you look at what
the end results of what took place, how it happens.
It just seems like the NFL wins on that level
every single.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Year because it creates what if scenarios every single year.
There you go, because you know, you mentioned the Dolphins,
what if Toua was healthy? I think it was Skyler
Thompson was in that playoff game against the Bills a
couple of years ago. That was that was a really
close game, and if tuas playing in that game, who
the hell knows, Like maybe maybe we're having a whole
different discussion about it, and maybe Miami gets off gets
(27:32):
off the schneid and they won a playoff game for
the first time in a quarter century. There's just there's
a lot of a lot of what ifs to go
along with it. And when it comes to the Sakuon
Barkley stuff, the best part about that, as far as
the impact it has on the Giants, is that Giants
fans will be reminded of it at least twice a
(27:54):
year for as long as he's playing football like it's
they're never getting away from that. It's not one of
those well look out of sight, out of mind, we
don't need to worry about him. He's in the other conference,
or he decided to move on and go play for
the UFL, or he's playing for the CFL. No, no, no,
you you get to see your ex twice a year.
They moved right down the street. They've got a bigger house,
(28:16):
they've got a better lawn, they've got better amenities. They're
dating somebody hotter, and you're reminded of that constantly while
you pull up in your jaloppie every single morning because
you were just working another graveyard shift like that. That's
the best part about the Saquon Barkley Giants reality is
that Giants fans are never going to be able to
(28:37):
let that go because they got to see the guy
twice a year and be reminded you could that was yours.
You had it in the palm of your hand, and
you let it walk, You let it go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now, imagine if Jayalen Ramsey goes to Pittsburgh and kills yeh,
it just has an amazing, amazing time. Or imagine if
Mika Fitzpatrick goes to Miami and kills like it just
there's so many ways to leverage how things play out,
(29:12):
and I think ultimately that's the biggest thing of it all.
You know, we talked about Shador Sanders and Deshaun Watson
and Deshaun Watson taking Shador under his wing. That's a storyline.
In fact, I would want to know more, Like what's
that all about? I wouldn't. I would. That's intriguing to me,
(29:33):
Like it's a storyline Like if if something were to
go in favor of Shador Sanders in Cleveland, in some way,
somehow he finds himself playing as a Cleveland Browns quarterback.
We'll look back to this moment in time and say
how much did Deshaun Watson taking Shador Sanders under his
(29:54):
wing man played a part in his preparation to this point.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Hey, by the way, uh, you do the show with
TJ up on Game every Saturday. I saw some stuff
that TJ has heard, maybe some not so great reviews
on Shad or at a at Brown's camp, that Dylan
Gabriel maybe maybe maybe playing pretty well?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like is that?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Is that something you guys have kicked around there? Anything
anything happening there?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I didn't have. We didn't have that conversation on up
on Game, which comes on Saturdays, by the way, noontime
to two o'clock PM Eastern Standard or nine am to
eleven am Pacific time. If you ever want to hear
me TJ and Plexico when I'm not doing the show
with Jonas here and when Q is on with Q
(30:47):
as well. Yeah, we did not talk about that on
the show this past weekend, so that I don't you know,
I'm not sure, but I will inquire.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Somebody's got to get a camera in that quarterback room. Now,
if if, if that's the cast of characters we're getting
to where You've got Joe Flacco, You've got Deshaun Watson
and all his fetishes, You've got Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett,
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Somebody's got to.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Get a camera in that room, please, like, can we
please get some sort of a coverage. I'll listen. No offense.
I think it's the Bills on hard knocks this year.
No offense. I'm good, like, I don't like there's no
you know, then that does nothing for me. The Browns
quarterback room, now we're talking. Make that happen, and then
(31:33):
I'll start get interested in hard knocks again.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, I think the Bills will be an interesting storyline,
but you're definitely following the story. The storyline if you're
in that that Brown's quarterbacks room, you know, you got
a guy with a new contract on the defensive side
of the ball that was, you know, hanging out you
know abroad. You know, I mean, you got some storyline
(32:00):
that are in Cleveland, but certainly that quarterbacks room is
one of the biggest that will be the most overcovered
to nauseum situations in all of sports.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Do you think that when should Or Sanders got popped
for speeding, do you think that Deshaun Watson pulled him
aside of hey man, we can't have that here, and
should Or just looked at him and said, excuse you, who.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are you that we're talking about. That's interesting that you
would that's an interesting question, And it's interesting because of
what you would say, what you would think, like possibly
what the response could be. But when you really think
about it, getting perspective on things like that, getting in
(32:49):
trouble for speeding and and doing things that brings unnecessary
attention your way, there's there's something to be said about
someone who has had to deal with those types of
situations telling you what it feels like on the other
side of it, regardless of if you're able to look
(33:10):
at his bank account and be like, well, it worked
out pretty well for you, regardless of that, he's not
in the same situation Deshaun Watson is in. Deshaun Watson's
situation played out after he had good enough seasons to
become a very very sought after free agent or what not?
(33:32):
Free agent? Was it free agent?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I traded for him, traded trade, trade, trade part for him, Yeah,
trade partner. I just I think it's very different situations.
And and so with Shador, Shador still has to as
confident as he is as a person, Shador still has
to live in the fact that he's a fifth round
draft pick. And in football culture, that's like that's you
(33:55):
might as well have been undrafted. Damn, you're so you're
so far down, you're so far down on on when
you were drafted, Like you can say you were drafted.
But fifth rounders, like, it's like, well, I'm just telling you.
I mean, that's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
They get out of your five.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean, fifth rounders is like, man, I hope you
make the team, bro Like, good luck. I mean, that's
that's what fifth round represents, Like that's the end, you know,
and in some cases, you know, again, culturally speaking, fifth
rounders are not looked at as as any type of
(34:35):
a factor. You know, they're generally backups or they're they're
they're guys that end up gone, and so he has
to still deal with being in that scenario that you
were a fifth round draft pick. And in football culture,
if you get a guy the two hundred million dollar man,
that's that's giving you his time and his attention in
(34:57):
the building, you're probably listening to what he has to say,
regardless of the shortcomings or the things that have taken
place for him off of the field and the things
that haven't taken place on the field since he's gone
to Cleveland. But I think it's a very interesting tale
(35:17):
of the tape that you have Deshaun Watson working to
mentor Shador Sanders. You have Shador Sanders who's working to
try to make the team. And if TJ said that,
you know he doesn't look as good or Dylan Gabriel
looks better, then that's most likely true. It's most likely
(35:39):
true because of just the people that TJ is always
in contact with, So you know, who knows who knows.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
TJ is a pretty well connected guy.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
The people love TJ Man, They love TJ. They love
talking to TJ. A lot, a lot of agents, a
lot of athletes, you know, they train with them. He
trains the top top receivers heading into their combines every year,
every year pretty much all like if you think of
(36:11):
like a top name receiver, he's generally training them and
preparing them for they're pro days and their their their combines.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
So I think his h his quote was along the
lines of it's it's a two man race, it's coming down.
He heard from somebody that's coming down to Kenny Pickett
or Dylan Gabriel with the Browns. But again, I mean,
you know it's early.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I mean, and if that's the case, then you would
have to assume that there's a strong possibility. Again, it
goes back to my original point. If if it doesn't
go well like and when I mean well, it has
to be phenomenal. You have four quarterbacks on this roster.
The strong there's a strong possibility that Shadoor Sanders could
(36:56):
get cut. I said that a long time ago, so
you know it could go. It would be more likely
he gets cut than it would be him to end
up being the starter of the Cleveland Browns. And that's
just the truth.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
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Speaker 1 (38:27):
Would you rather?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Your random topics, sports or otherwise?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Final lead to lap? What do we got? Guys? Would
you rather be in a zombie apocalypse or a robot apocalypse?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Zombie?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, we already aren't at robot Apocalypse, aren't we dang?
So I'll tach, I'll take this one.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
HEYI has taken over everything.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, completely like you cut.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Like you.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I remember a few years ago, Brady tell them your story.
He was staying at some hotel in Chicago and he's like, yeah,
this is freaking me out because the trash can moves
like the trash can like moves towards you. If you
want to throw something away, it's like really advanced. And
that was a trash can. And now you're seeing like giant,
oh my god, giant dogs. Uh, you know, get up
(39:20):
on all fours and like open a beer. Like it's
just the whole thing's weird. But I figure were already here,
so I'll take my chances with that.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What else we got?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I was just asking Larina if I should ask this
or not ask it. Would you rather stay the race
you are or change races?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Tang?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh, change races.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, I'd like some better opportunities. You know, I don't
feel like I've gotten a fair shake.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You are fuddy is hell. The sarcasm is.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Real, Lee, What a dumb question.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's going to be question you want to change.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You want to change races?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, I mean some people would probably say yes, and
we'll give you some reasons why. I don't know, man,
I mean, my reason for wanting to stay the race
that I am is clearly rooted in the life I
live like, I live a super dope life. So yeah,
there's no reason for me to change anything what I
(40:29):
got going on.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I would say this, I'm tired of putting sun block on,
Like it'd be nice to just not have to do
that thing.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm tired of not having to put some block on.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I want to switch.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I wonder what that's like.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
You know, SPF. What is SPF for?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I got that built in DA
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I tell all of them, reak it up, break it down,
back it up, mess it up, back it up, raak
it up, back it up. I tell all of them,
what do I rake exactly? The cash? Oh, you rake
(00:59):
up the cash, you back up the the dump trap?
Well that too if you got one.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Uh oh, this is a stripper song. Like a strippers,
I gotta show him some love. So that's the second
one you've done.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
As that's correct. I figure that that's correct too. I
just figure that. You know. For me, the idea of
doing this in particular was based around the amount of
energy that is in the beats of stripper music.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, have you noticed strip clubs are different around different
parts of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't really know about strip clubs, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So there's a guy that I know who looks a
lot like me and almost has the same exact name,
and just so happened to be in the Charles in
South Carolina area at the same time I was, years
and years ago, and he was telling me about how
there was this strip club I think it was called
(02:10):
Southern Bell in Charleston, and a friend of his who
was female, she yeah, well, I'm assuming, I'm assuming, I'm
assuming we're still identifying as that, but who knows. Things
(02:30):
have changed. It's been a long ass time, but she was.
She was a friend of mine out there who said,
I got to take you to the Southern Did I
say me?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Not me?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Definitely not me, the friend of a friend of you know,
somebody else but decided I want to take you to
the Southern Bell. I was new to town. I had
no idea what it was. And the deal was it
was right next it was connected to a liquor store
and you could drink inside the club. But I guess
(03:01):
the you could either pay twenty dollars cover charge to
get in, or you could pay ten if you bought
drinks at the liquor store to bring them in. Let
me get this straight, the cover charge is less as
long as I bring in beer inside the club.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Said yeah. I was like, soyob, so what's the catch.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So brought in a bucket of beers and sat there
and watched some of the worst stripping I'd ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh darn, the worst strip.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's just, you know, there's just in different parts of
the country, it just the strip club experience looks a
little different, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You know. So, yeah I'm not, but you're you're a
strip club connoissewer. No, not really, long as to a couple.
I mean, I know I know about strippers, Yeah, long
as stranger to them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There there was a place out here that had a
bar next to a strip club, and buddies wanted to
go into this And by the way, for everybody, just
so you know, this is a long time ago, at
least a month, And so buddies wanted to go into
this strip club, and next to the strip club was
this bar, and they all just hung out in the
(04:22):
strip club, you know, doing whatever they were going to do.
And I just stayed at the bar. I was like,
what's the point, You're just kind of go in there
and do what nothing. So we just stayed here, have
a couple of cocktails and then walk on out of
there and hope that nobody's waiting by the car with
some sort of a weapon to try and take whatever
you had on you that you didn't spend on a stripper.
So now that I know that that is a tribute
(04:46):
to stripper song, it just sparked a memory, and I
realize you've now done two of those. I didn't even
know if there is a third one that you could
think of.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
There are plenty, Okay, there's plenty where that one came from,
said Drek.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
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take you all the way up until nine am Eastern time,
six o'clock Pacific. All right, So I got to know
training camps right around the corner fourth of July, is
(05:22):
this Friday. For NFL players, this really is the last
week that you can get it in. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
My son came home, he came home for the week,
but he ain't gonna get it in. I'm gonna get
it out of him. I'll tell you that, because we're
gonna get some work in today. He got lucky. Yesterday
was my birthday, but he came in for that. He
came in for my birthday, so that was cool. But yeah,
you know, he's uh, you know, he's he's here, and yes,
(05:57):
the answer is yes. This is that This is that
one last moment where you get the opportunity to kind
of you know, get whatever it is you got in
inside of your out of you and so that you
can lock in on on the grind of the season.
You gotta get through training camp, get through training camp,
(06:19):
get the regular season. Next thing, you know, it's like,
this is it. This is this is that last moment
before you start the journey to the other side of
the basically the year. You know you're gonna close the
year out if you're playing well, or to Thanksgiving somewhere
in there and around there. So yeah, this is this
(06:41):
is that one moment in time to you know, have
your last whatever it's going to be. Go jump in
the pool, go jump in the ocean, you know, just
be at home, whatever it may be. But this is
that last moment for.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Sure, because when you mentioned it, you know, like before
you get back to the grind, basically the NFL, Like
just from the NFL standpoint, if everything goes well, if
your team ends up playing well enough after this week,
you belong.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
To them for seven months. That's right.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's wild to think about, Like you belong to them
for seven months. You'll get a bye week, but who
knows any if you're banged up or a rehabbing part
of that, but for seven months, you belong to them.
And I do wonder if that's something too when we
see these issues of player arrests or off field incidents
or things like that, especially around the Fourth of July holiday,
(07:37):
is because they feel what you're mentioning, dude, after this,
we got nothing but grind, So let's just let it
all loose. And some can do it within the parameters
of the legal system or the you know, the illegal
fireworks system, and some can't. And those are just the repercussions.
(07:58):
But it is interesting to think because I think for
most people, you just get into this typical Monday through
Friday ish type of nine to five grind. We're in
the NFL, You've got all this free time, and then
all of a sudden, you just don't that's over. Like
you belong to them for a significant amount of time
throughout the course of the year, and so you just wonder,
(08:18):
all right, so, who's going to be the first one
to make a mistake, Who's going to get in trouble?
How's this whole thing in a play out? Because this
and the fact that fourth July is on a Friday,
you know, mixed in with a whole weekend afterwards, I
feel like probably going to be an incident or two
this week. Not trying to be negative, but I feel
like we'll be reporting on some sort of an off
field issue in the NFL this week at some point.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What do you think about that you want.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To place that wager? No, a little police blodder wager.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Not interested you think somebody's going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
What's the wildest before training camp party that you can
remember that you can tell, not not giving names, but like,
what's the scene, Like how many people I.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Don't feel like there's a wild party before you go
to training camp. I will say I threw a wild
party Fourth of July slash my birthday every year, and
that was pretty wild. And if you're from DC and
(09:29):
you're around my age or a little older, you've probably
attended it. I mean, it's pretty wild. One year there
was a shooting. I mean it was you know, people's
emotions was turned up.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wait a second, was this open? Was this open to
the public.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It was kind of open to the public, it was.
It was at one the one year we did it
at a we you know, me, Julian Peterson, we started it.
We we did it. We would do charity so we'd
help help the kids, do do a football camp, go
to the children's hospital, visit the kids, donations, stuff like that,
(10:12):
and then we would have a rap party like basically
wrapping up the festivities that took place because we did
a bowling We did bowling too, and and so we
would do a rap party at at a mansion. One
year we even did it at my house and it
(10:33):
would be a really really good time. It's all I
can tell you. That's it. That's all I'm going to
give you. Because that it was a really but one year,
one year dude, this do so I'll tell you how
it ended up leading to a shooting. It was a
ar tyro Gotti and Floyd Mayweather were fighting. You remember
that one.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh, I love Arturo Gotti. By the way, Netflix, you
want to do a documentary, find out how he really died.
That's what I want to know. Love our Oh got him? Sorry,
go ahead, no worse.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So it was, you know, it was kind of like
a party, cookout party, pool party. But there was a nice,
like a super nice theater room in this house, so
we had usage of the house. We're in the theater
room and there was these two dudes and this one
dude in particularly. You know how it is when there's
a lot of pretty women around and you've been drinking
(11:26):
or you've been smoking whatever it is, and you know,
dark liquor just sometimes just isn't the right move. You
just got to know what your kryptonite is. And this
one dude was just he was just talking so crazy
and this, that and the other, and he was starting
to scare people in the room. So the security removed him.
You know, they gave him a warning. He got a warning.
(11:48):
He kept on going because you know, some dudes got
this weird thing that they think that they're impressing women
by talking crazy. It's it's something that I've never understood.
And if a woman is turned on by you acting
in a belligerent, violent way, then you know, I guess
(12:12):
nature ran its course. If y'all ended up together and
it was because of her liking that, I mean, that's
some weirdest to me. But some dudes nonetheless think that
girls like that that type of stuff. Anyway, he ends
up getting removed from the room. Fight is over. Everybody's
like dispersing to go back to the party, and I'm
walking and I hear like this commotion and I'm walking
(12:34):
and as I'm walking by, I see the commotion and
he said, I don't give it up about LeVar Arrington,
Da da da, Who the does he think he is?
And I looked at him and he looked at me,
and it was like that moment in time where you
had to decide, like do I stay with what I
was saying or do I like be like, you know,
say something different. I don't know, but it was like
(12:55):
we met eyes. I saw him, he saw me, or
I saw him, you know, and he saw me, we
saw each other. Whatever, and he took a pause and
then he just turned right on back up. And then
the security just they you know, they removed him from
the house. Now, what happened after that, They they walked
him as gentlemen. They walked him to his car to
(13:18):
make sure him and his boys got into the car
and got off the property so that, you know, the
party could continue on what happened at the car. You know,
I don't know, man, there's different accounts. There's different accounts
of what happened and how it happened. All I know
was we heard. We heard. That's all I heard. You know,
(13:38):
we heard it, and God, needless to say, the party
was over. But I used to do them. I used
to do them. The first one I ever did, I
did in Fairfax and Chef Ad my boy shouts out
to Chef Ad. He was grilling and it was only
supposed to be like a handful of us Like that
(13:59):
was just you know, that was It's funny. Julius Peppers
and Ryan Sims, they played together at at UNC. I
had them. They were in town, they were we were
all hanging out. They were at the party and we
were just hanging out and it turned into a real party,
like the cops came everything, like, you know, the music
(14:24):
is reaching the road, you know what I mean, Like
you got to you got to turn your music down
because the neighbors are complaining about it. I was like,
I'm so sorry. I mean, we're on you know, some
acres here. I ain't realize that it was that loud,
so we turned the music down. But that was the
first one we ever did, and that one was pretty
That one was pretty intense because I didn't expect anybody,
(14:46):
like we were expecting like ten fifteen people and we
were watching the NBA Finals and ended up being like,
I don't even know the number. I couldn't even count.
It was just it was just my house was full
of peace. And which, by the way, if you were there,
fu because after the party was over, when you when
all the smoke cleared, like all my DVD my DVD
(15:09):
collection was all gone ransacked. They yeah, they was taking
my sneakers was missing, like I had some stuff missing.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
By the way. That was the thing I remember that
back of going to parties in high school where people
thought that was cool. You'd go to somebody would have
a party at their parents' house, and then somebody would
steal stuff from the party. Why, like do you know,
like they're they're walking the plank trying to make sure
that their parents don't find out about this party. And
even if they do a great job cleaning up, the
(15:38):
dad's gonna come home and go what happened to all
the DVDs? What happened to this?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
How did and that's just a thing, Like you've got
these petty criminals.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And them Joys was like twenty dollars each, twenty thirty dollars,
twenty five dollars. What was it for DVDs? Black? Back then?
I had Blu rays, I had like they took them, man, Yeah,
they took that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
If you look at a solid DVD collection from back
in the day, thousands of dollars spent, but you don't
think about it because you're doing it one at a time,
and then you look at it as you have a
mass this collection, you've got thousands of dollars. Like CDs
back in the day, if you got a whole booklet
of CDs, you go back through there. Man, CDs are
like fourteen to fifteen bucks apiece for an.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Album, So so do that math. Yeah, but it was
cool that. You know, you you blow the steam off,
You blow that steam off, and then you get you
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you check it, you get your mind right to check
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about twenty minute from now. It's a Tuesday. We've got
another edition of would you rather here? And that'll be
yours on FSR. Kind Of an up and down week
for the one and only Tyreek Hill, very up and down.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The good news is he did beat a Liles in
a race, so that's the that's the good news.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He didn't win the race though.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well no but I mean he did finish ahead of Noel.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's funny. He didn't win the race though he did
not win well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, you know, Hill versus Lyles is like the
next great you know racing racing few that we've got here.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
A bet I heard Barry J. Blige's sister seeing the
start the national anthem before. Yeah, believe you me not
the same. Just because your sibling has that gift does
not believe you, does not mean that you have the
same gift. Yeah, that's all I'll say.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is that that bad?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It wasn't that good? Yeah? Okay, well good at all?
It wasn't good at all.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now that being said, you know he did beat the Lyles.
He ran a ten to ten hundred meters dash, which
I mean, that's that's fast.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
That's fast. That just ain't cooking fast. Think that's fast.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
What do you think I would run one hundred meter dash?
And I would, I would say.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Twenty fifteen point five?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You think I'd run it that fast? Sixteen sixteen?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, but you giving me a bike. You can't run
one hundred meters.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I don't think I could, don't. I don't think I
can do it under twenty I think I think you could.
I don't think I could.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, you one hundred percent could do it under twenty seconds, bro,
one hundred percent. I don't know those days. Toddler could
run one hundred meters under twenty second.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's correct, Toddler, Yeah, that's correct. Toddler's have better knees
than me and a better hip. It's not happening, Okay.
I'm like, it's like Forrest Gump when the shackles come off,
you know, the braces come off his legs and he
runs real fast. So I don't run fast at all.
They just come off and I either fall to the
(20:17):
ground or that's that. Those days are over, gone up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. But he
did beat the Lyles and and so congratulations to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That was big. Over the weekend. They had a race
in Texas because they were supposed to race. Yeah, so
he went to hit and be a Liles anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, he also again mixed results. He beat the Liles.
But then he was campaigning earlier this offseason talking about
how he was going to convince Jalen Ramsey to stay
in Miami, only to find out, oh, not only are
we losing Jalen Ramsey, we're also losing John new Smith.
So we have no real answer at tight end. There's
been some speculation about what they're going to do, but
(21:00):
feels like he posted a sad face emoji upon finding
out about the trade, and it just does feel like
we've kind of mentioned this before the offseason for the Dolphins,
and I've said this, and every time there's a move
made when it comes to this team, it just feels
like we're going one of two directions. Either they're going
(21:21):
to be a fringe playoff team or they're going to
be a disaster. It's gonna go one of two directions.
And I do wonder if this is the year that
Tua stays fully healthy. But they've lost key pieces around him,
and so now we're looking at, you know, he diminished
a diminished version of the Dolphins team that maybe could
have made a run and made some noise had he
been healthy for a couple of these playoff games that
(21:45):
they've been in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think that that is the key. The losing John
new I get it, you know you can. That's your
starting tight end. He's gone. Losing Jay lib Ramsey, he
played fairly well for the Dolphins in his return. Losing
(22:08):
those two guys, I don't think, especially adding Minka Fitzpatrick
to the back end of that defense, potentially it doesn't
hurt their defense, and in some cases some regards, you
could think that maybe adding Minca is an improvement, even
though you're not high on them as far as offensively,
(22:31):
as long as to A is playing at a high
level and is on the field, this seems to be
a competitive Dolphins team and I don't think that changes
losing John Nue to the Steelers. I just don't so
whether it's Julian Hill or anyone else that would be
(22:52):
on the roster that can contribute. I think it all
comes down to what the health and what the participation
level of of of tu a tongue of Ala is
going to be in order to really gauge what the
type of season that they're going to have. They're one
(23:13):
injury away with Tua from their season going from being
a competitive season to a survival season. Can they can
they survive? Can they make it? But I think their
defense will be good. I think their past rush will
will be improved. Obviously, you know, I got Chopp is
there and he can play some ball. They got some guys,
(23:36):
so I don't I don't look at this Dolphins team
as they're in any different position than what they were
before it did. Trade took place.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think it was George Pickens who had some comments
towards makeing Fitzpatrick upon Lee because you know, Tyreek Hill's sad.
He's not he's not thrilled with with the decision for
them to move on. But George Pickens took a little
bit of a shot at the Pittsburgh Steelers upon finding
(24:04):
out that Mike Fitzpatrick was being traded and went ahead
and said, let me find the exact quote here, give
me one second, just efforting here on this, but basically
taking a shot at the Steelers, something along the lines
of sunny Days ahead back to Sunny Days, just referencing
the fact that Micka Fitzpatrick is out of Pittsburgh and
(24:25):
now back with the Miami Dolphins. So it's funny to
see how there's a tale to be told by each
Jalen Ramsey clearly was ready to move on from Miami.
George Pickens, who's no longer in Pittsburgh, he's clearly got
a bone to pick with that organization. It just feels
like these are a couple of teams, I would say,
high variants to where you could see it going one
(24:48):
direction or another. Like both these teams, it would not
be a surprise to see either fringe playoff team or
this whole thing just ends up being a disaster either
spot Miami or Pittsburgh. So maybe this maybe the deal
is just a wash, but.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But nonetheless it makes for amazing excellent reality television. You know,
you got to have people that are but hurt, that
have their their feelings in a bunch. You gotta have
people who are excited and happy about opportunities. You gotta
have the drama of somebody's making decisions, and it's got
(25:26):
to work, you know, or you got you're going to
see what the results are from it not working. I mean,
it's just there's so many storylines you can draw from
with the National Football League that even in this slowest
of times, the slowest time in terms of coverage, you're
(25:47):
still having storylines that play out that will ultimately be
a part of why the bigger storylines that may play
out later on take place. I mean, we can look
back on certain times like this and say, okay, you
remember back in July first when that we were talking
(26:09):
about this took place with this organization, and now all
these months later you're seeing the fallout or or like
think about with Saquon, that could have gone either Wayquon
could have disappeared, he could have gone to a you know,
a different team, it had not been what it turned
(26:31):
out to be with the Eagles and the Giants survive
what would have been a media s storm if he
went somewhere, let alone some to a team within the
division and did well. Right, But you can think back
and look back on when it took place, when the
decision took place, which makes it the best, right when
(26:54):
you have those things documented and you can look back
and say, oh, this is what not happened, all right,
and then you fast forward and you look at what
the end results of what took place, how it happens.
It just seems like the NFL wins on that level
every single.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Year because it creates what if scenarios every single year.
There you go, because you know, you mentioned the Dolphins,
what if Toua was healthy? I think it was Skyler
Thompson was in that playoff game against the Bills a
couple of years ago. That was that was a really
close game, and if tuas playing in that game, who
the hell knows, Like maybe maybe we're having a whole
different discussion about it, and maybe Miami gets off gets
(27:32):
off the schneid and they won a playoff game for
the first time in a quarter century. There's just there's
a lot of a lot of what ifs to go
along with it. And when it comes to the Sakuon
Barkley stuff, the best part about that, as far as
the impact it has on the Giants, is that Giants
fans will be reminded of it at least twice a
(27:54):
year for as long as he's playing football like it's
they're never getting away from that. It's not one of
those well look out of sight, out of mind, we
don't need to worry about him. He's in the other conference,
or he decided to move on and go play for
the UFL, or he's playing for the CFL. No, no, no,
you you get to see your ex twice a year.
They moved right down the street. They've got a bigger house,
(28:16):
they've got a better lawn, they've got better amenities. They're
dating somebody hotter, and you're reminded of that constantly while
you pull up in your jaloppie every single morning because
you were just working another graveyard shift like that. That's
the best part about the Saquon Barkley Giants reality is
that Giants fans are never going to be able to
(28:37):
let that go because they got to see the guy
twice a year and be reminded you could that was yours.
You had it in the palm of your hand, and
you let it walk, You let it go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now, imagine if Jayalen Ramsey goes to Pittsburgh and kills yeh,
it just has an amazing, amazing time. Or imagine if
Mika Fitzpatrick goes to Miami and kills like it just
there's so many ways to leverage how things play out,
(29:12):
and I think ultimately that's the biggest thing of it all.
You know, we talked about Shador Sanders and Deshaun Watson
and Deshaun Watson taking Shador under his wing. That's a storyline.
In fact, I would want to know more, Like what's
that all about? I wouldn't. I would. That's intriguing to me,
(29:33):
Like it's a storyline Like if if something were to
go in favor of Shador Sanders in Cleveland, in some way,
somehow he finds himself playing as a Cleveland Browns quarterback.
We'll look back to this moment in time and say
how much did Deshaun Watson taking Shador Sanders under his
(29:54):
wing man played a part in his preparation to this point.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Hey, by the way, uh, you do the show with
TJ up on Game every Saturday. I saw some stuff
that TJ has heard, maybe some not so great reviews
on Shad or at a at Brown's camp, that Dylan
Gabriel maybe maybe maybe playing pretty well?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like is that?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Is that something you guys have kicked around there? Anything
anything happening there?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I didn't have. We didn't have that conversation on up
on Game, which comes on Saturdays, by the way, noontime
to two o'clock PM Eastern Standard or nine am to
eleven am Pacific time. If you ever want to hear
me TJ and Plexico when I'm not doing the show
with Jonas here and when Q is on with Q
(30:47):
as well. Yeah, we did not talk about that on
the show this past weekend, so that I don't you know,
I'm not sure, but I will inquire.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Somebody's got to get a camera in that quarterback room. Now,
if if, if that's the cast of characters we're getting
to where You've got Joe Flacco, You've got Deshaun Watson
and all his fetishes, You've got Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett,
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Somebody's got to.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Get a camera in that room, please, like, can we
please get some sort of a coverage. I'll listen. No offense.
I think it's the Bills on hard knocks this year.
No offense. I'm good, like, I don't like there's no
you know, then that does nothing for me. The Browns
quarterback room, now we're talking. Make that happen, and then
(31:33):
I'll start get interested in hard knocks again.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, I think the Bills will be an interesting storyline,
but you're definitely following the story. The storyline if you're
in that that Brown's quarterbacks room, you know, you got
a guy with a new contract on the defensive side
of the ball that was, you know, hanging out you
know abroad. You know, I mean, you got some storyline
(32:00):
that are in Cleveland, but certainly that quarterbacks room is
one of the biggest that will be the most overcovered
to nauseum situations in all of sports.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Do you think that when should Or Sanders got popped
for speeding, do you think that Deshaun Watson pulled him
aside of hey man, we can't have that here, and
should Or just looked at him and said, excuse you, who.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are you that we're talking about. That's interesting that you
would that's an interesting question, And it's interesting because of
what you would say, what you would think, like possibly
what the response could be. But when you really think
about it, getting perspective on things like that, getting in
(32:49):
trouble for speeding and and doing things that brings unnecessary
attention your way, there's there's something to be said about
someone who has had to deal with those types of
situations telling you what it feels like on the other
side of it, regardless of if you're able to look
(33:10):
at his bank account and be like, well, it worked
out pretty well for you, regardless of that, he's not
in the same situation Deshaun Watson is in. Deshaun Watson's
situation played out after he had good enough seasons to
become a very very sought after free agent or what not?
(33:32):
Free agent? Was it free agent?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I traded for him, traded trade, trade, trade part for him, Yeah,
trade partner. I just I think it's very different situations.
And and so with Shador, Shador still has to as
confident as he is as a person, Shador still has
to live in the fact that he's a fifth round
draft pick. And in football culture, that's like that's you
(33:55):
might as well have been undrafted. Damn, you're so you're
so far down, you're so far down on on when
you were drafted, Like you can say you were drafted.
But fifth rounders, like, it's like, well, I'm just telling you.
I mean, that's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
They get out of your five.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean, fifth rounders is like, man, I hope you
make the team, bro Like, good luck. I mean, that's
that's what fifth round represents, Like that's the end, you know,
and in some cases, you know, again, culturally speaking, fifth
rounders are not looked at as as any type of
(34:35):
a factor. You know, they're generally backups or they're they're
they're guys that end up gone, and so he has
to still deal with being in that scenario that you
were a fifth round draft pick. And in football culture,
if you get a guy the two hundred million dollar man,
that's that's giving you his time and his attention in
(34:57):
the building, you're probably listening to what he has to say,
regardless of the shortcomings or the things that have taken
place for him off of the field and the things
that haven't taken place on the field since he's gone
to Cleveland. But I think it's a very interesting tale
(35:17):
of the tape that you have Deshaun Watson working to
mentor Shador Sanders. You have Shador Sanders who's working to
try to make the team. And if TJ said that,
you know he doesn't look as good or Dylan Gabriel
looks better, then that's most likely true. It's most likely
(35:39):
true because of just the people that TJ is always
in contact with, So you know, who knows who knows.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
TJ is a pretty well connected guy.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
The people love TJ Man, They love TJ. They love
talking to TJ. A lot, a lot of agents, a
lot of athletes, you know, they train with them. He
trains the top top receivers heading into their combines every year,
every year pretty much all like if you think of
(36:11):
like a top name receiver, he's generally training them and
preparing them for they're pro days and their their their combines.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
So I think his h his quote was along the
lines of it's it's a two man race, it's coming down.
He heard from somebody that's coming down to Kenny Pickett
or Dylan Gabriel with the Browns. But again, I mean,
you know it's early.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I mean, and if that's the case, then you would
have to assume that there's a strong possibility. Again, it
goes back to my original point. If if it doesn't
go well like and when I mean well, it has
to be phenomenal. You have four quarterbacks on this roster.
The strong there's a strong possibility that Shadoor Sanders could
(36:56):
get cut. I said that a long time ago, so
you know it could go. It would be more likely
he gets cut than it would be him to end
up being the starter of the Cleveland Browns. And that's
just the truth.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
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Speaker 1 (38:27):
Would you rather?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Your random topics, sports or otherwise?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Final lead to lap? What do we got? Guys? Would
you rather be in a zombie apocalypse or a robot apocalypse?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Zombie?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, we already aren't at robot Apocalypse, aren't we dang?
So I'll tach, I'll take this one.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
HEYI has taken over everything.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, completely like you cut.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Like you.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I remember a few years ago, Brady tell them your story.
He was staying at some hotel in Chicago and he's like, yeah,
this is freaking me out because the trash can moves
like the trash can like moves towards you. If you
want to throw something away, it's like really advanced. And
that was a trash can. And now you're seeing like giant,
oh my god, giant dogs. Uh, you know, get up
(39:20):
on all fours and like open a beer. Like it's
just the whole thing's weird. But I figure were already here,
so I'll take my chances with that.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What else we got?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I was just asking Larina if I should ask this
or not ask it. Would you rather stay the race
you are or change races?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Tang?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh, change races.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, I'd like some better opportunities. You know, I don't
feel like I've gotten a fair shake.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You are fuddy is hell. The sarcasm is.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Real, Lee, What a dumb question.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's going to be question you want to change.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You want to change races?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, I mean some people would probably say yes, and
we'll give you some reasons why. I don't know, man,
I mean, my reason for wanting to stay the race
that I am is clearly rooted in the life I
live like, I live a super dope life. So yeah,
there's no reason for me to change anything what I
(40:29):
got going on.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I would say this, I'm tired of putting sun block on,
Like it'd be nice to just not have to do
that thing.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm tired of not having to put some block on.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I want to switch.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I wonder what that's like.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
You know, SPF. What is SPF for?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I got that built in DA
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