November 11, 2025 • 49 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to Giants HC Brian Daboll being fired + Bengals QB Joe Burrow returns to practice & FOX Sports Football Rules Analyst Dean Blandino stops by!
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Speaker 4 (01:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:31):
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, the Giants are looking for a uh, I'm gonna
be looking for new head coach. Brian day Ball. N
Brian day Ball is out. He is no longer the
head coach of the New York Giants. Following the gag
job on Sunday against the Bears, Jackson nardco out with
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the concussion, Russell Wilson stepping in and not able to
get anything going, and thus Brian Dayball is gone. The
Giants make the decision to fire him. Given a long
enough leash, you know, three three plus years, but it
just wasn't getting any better, and I kind of just
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didn't looking at the way it was already being framed. Hey,
this is the fourth time Jackson Dart's been, you know,
evaluated for concussion, the Blue medical tent incident. It just
now I wonder, Yeah, it's kind of will you know,
is he good for the safety of the player, Does
he have the player's best And it just felt like
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that's the way that this was going to be framed.
So he's gone. But Joe.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Like the truth.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Okay, he's been evaluated four times for a concussion.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Okay, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But you was saying, is is it? It's just the truth,
It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But is it Brian da Ball's fault? The Jackson Dart
doesn't slide and and he plays the way that he's playing.
Is that really Brian dave Balls's fault? Because they were
even talking about during the game.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
If you're if you're having him run oftentimes, yeah, then
you're subjecting him to more of that. And if you
are coaching a player and the player keeps doing something
you've told him not to do, clearly the coach isn't
getting to the player. I mean, if Scott Shapiro kept
telling you to not do something and you kept doing it,
eventually it's his job to either take you out or.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
To go show. You're not going to be doing the show.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I mean, not that complicated.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
He got evaluated for a concussion four times? Did he
get four concussions?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Well, some people, depending on who you ask, would probably
say potentially. And I don't know that that's the angle
you want to take. Like that's a hill to die on.
Most likely I'm not here to die on. I would
say this, like, do we feel like the growth of
Jackson Dart is best suited to be and in Davo's hands.
I think that's what this is now. The injury portion
is part of it. Obviously, they're subjecting him to more
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injuries by the way they run him, the way they're
calling plays. Even if Jackson Darts not protect himself getting down,
he'll eventually learn that. But you know, they also can
help by not putting him in that situation. But you
look at like Russell Wilson where he was a year
ago to where he is now, dramatic difference, and a
lot of people just say, well, Russ is washed, He's
not any good. Okay, Well, look at Daniel Jones with
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the Anneapolis Colts, a career year, career year MVP candid.
Everyone said he was washed, all the Giants fans said
he was washed. So unfortunately, there's been a lot of
you know, damning progress or you know, in one case
Daniel Jones and how he's playing. In another case, in
seeing Jackson Dart kind of stay the same, like not
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really evolving or developing as a young quarterback kind of
just being the same, fun to watch. You could tell
he's got talent, but subjecting himself being Harm's way and
Russell Wilson kind of in this like drop off position.
And the truth of the matter is he's won what
eleven of the last forty four games, and the Giants
ownership has been patient, Like after that first year they
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go to the playoff like okay, like they got some momentum,
but it's been an absolute collapse. There was reports he
was gonna get fired after their collapse in Denver. It
just it only felt like a matter of time with
the way he conducted himself, the emotions you see on
the sidelines. You mentioned the blue tent situation. I mean,
all that stuff. It's just a bad look. So this
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wasn't surprising to me. I think what was surprising was,
you know, general manager Joe Shane will still stay. Not
only stay, he'll be a part of the decision making
process in the next head coach.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Super Bowl Champ defensive captain Antonio Pierce. Baby I put
his hat in the ring for head coach. He got
a raw deal in Las Vegas. Let's go with Antonio Pierce.
Everyone Antonio Piers, Yes, Antonio Peers for next I'm starting
the campaign. Uh, you know, it's a sad moment in
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time for an organization that has been a historical organization
connected to the National Football League. The class that the
mayor and Tisch family and grace that they have had
as ownership and as people through the years is very
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very well well documented. It's just a well ran, classy organization.
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Everybody says that the team sucks, and they've sucked for
a decade.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that is something that they have to dress and
addressing a way where you can start to get back
to the stability of what they represented as as an organization.
And I don't know how they get there. I'm sure
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they've been trying. I mean, I don't think that they
would ever in their wildest dreams thought that the decisions
that they were making, even though one played out on
camera where you heard was it Steve Tish I believe
or it was one or it was one and maybe
it was one of the mirrors. It was one of
the mirrors that that said, you know, I can't I
can't see us letting Saquon go to another team. He's
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one of our most popular guys. Dada, I won't sleep
at night if he goes to Philly and lo and
behold he goes to Philly, it was against his better judgment.
I almost believe that, you know, the ones who who
understand it as well as they do within the building
have to They have to make sure that the organization
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is representing what it is that is right in common sense,
common sense acceptable, like don't do something as stupid as
get rid of sa Kwon Barkley. And if you can
figure out, you know how to use your players effectively,
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I mean, where are you? How far off? What is
it that is wrong with the New York Giants that
you can't get the production out of Saquon that you
need to get, which you did get pretty good production
out of him, but can't get more production out of
Daniel Jones like the Colts are getting right now? What's
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so different in New York that you can't get those
results there and he's getting them in in Indianapolis. I
just think that there has to be really a come
to Jesus moment where they trust their guts on the
things that they're doing, and you bring in people that
are going to see it from the perspective of what
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they have always seen historically of what the New York
Giants represent. I don't know that that's what it's been
with the coaches that they've brought in. I don't know,
but I know. I mean, I'm not saying this guys
is my best friend. I'm just saying one of my
best friends. I'm just saying, bring in a guy who
understands it to the level of where they went all
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the way to the Super Bowl and be one of
the greatest teams. If not, it's great team to not
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
This is a great point. You know what, I'm throwing
the meat Wagon's hat for this job. Yeah, me waggon, Yeah,
play linebacker. Yeah, there was a thing or two about
some toughness. Yeah, yeah, me wagon in there for the
next half, Giants throw you're a friend, and I'll throw
them one of my friends and the baby.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like linebackers coach though, you know, yeah linebackers coach me
wagon for LB's coach. Baby, Well, just.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Pe What Bob Yaka told him back in was that
Eastern Michigan you know, I want you to run down
there on kickoff, like you're a black tar heroin. That's
what his coach told him. He's like, I want you
to have run down there on kickoff. You're a black
tar heroin.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So if you told, if you were to tell your coach,
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He's what he said. He looked at me like, I
don't I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Whatever, what are having a black tar heroin? They used
to be a thing. I believe it's uh, you can
get it at a seven eleven out here if you
look hard enough.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That sounds like a person who was partaking in black
tar heroin.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's that's what sounds like.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Run down there.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You don't just randomly say something like that like he
he must have been running downfields on black heroin. Dang,
Like where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So the obviously the two moves that people look at
and go Daniel Jones is playing at a high level.
What happened there? Saquon Barkley, you know, damn near won
the MVP last year, ran for two thousand yards. What
happened there? I mean those are Joe Shane decisions, right,
because I remember when Daniel Jones got the extension from
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the Giants, Joe Shane even said publicly, well, if I
would have known, he would have had that year. You know,
if I could have read into the future, I would
have picked up his fifth year option or something along
those lines. And it feels like he's keeping his job.
But Brian Daball is gone. Is this just to give
him another opportunity to see if you can hire a
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different coach and have this going in a better direction,
Because those are the two moves people look at and
it feels like Joe Shane's fingerprints are all over both
of those, like he was the guy who made the
call on those.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I think it's a great yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean, look, was Joe Shane involved in this to
he save himself, of course, But at the same time,
I'd look at this and just say, I think they
had a good working relationship. I think what occurred, and
from what my intel has told me is, you know,
people in this this report that came out, people started
listening to the headset and that was maybe one of
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the more damning things that occurred during the time of
Brian Daviles's tenure, is they you know, heard how he
was coaching, how he was talking, the emotions tied to it,
all the whole situation. They just they kind of felt like, Okay,
this isn't getting better. Yeah, Like it's just it's not
getting better. You know, this isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Moving towards a point. Can you give us some insight
on like, like, cause I hear what you're saying, But
it could be a couple of different things, right. It
could be detached, you know, kind of dismissive. It could
be aggressive like you mother aff.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Like you see his emotions on the sidelines, like that's
not any different than how he is.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I just wanted to go to our listeners that you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Look, he's a good, fiery coach. He wears his emotions
on his sleeve, and that as a head coach is
good at times and other times it's not. As a leader,
it's good at times, other times it's not. And if
you've got that the type of ownership that looks at
that and says, that's not really what we want. You know,
we don't want this guy who we feel like is
you know, all over the place at times with his
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emotions on the sidelines, or it looks like he's given
up completely. I mean, even his emotions about you know,
Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart and just how the whole
injury ten incident went down. You know, that's just one player,
one position. Could you imagine how he applies that to
the others It's the same thing. So I'm sure there's
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you know, maybe a general feel because it's not like
the more as the Titis aren't close to the players
and around that organization, they probably have a good feel
for the players on that team, and some of them
might feel like, hey man, we're over this, like this
this is we can't ride this roller coaster every week,
and this isn't getting any better. Like I said, the
reality is of their last what forty games whatever it's been,
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or forty they've won eleven games like that just isn't
good enough. Like they have been patient over the last
two seasons and then into this one. Yeah, I mean,
I just I look at and say, like it was
this organization since the first year he got there going
in the right direction. It wasn't. And if you want
to put that on Joe Shane as well, that there's
maybe some truth of that. But the truth of the
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matter is as well, like he found Skataboo where he did,
he drafted Jackson Dart where he did, as much as
you want to point to, like, hey, they didn't get
the Saquon Barkley thing, you know, figured out, Okay, that
was a miss and that might be on Joe Shane
or lack of intel, whatever you want to put on
because it was very public. But they also have some
pieces that they have added. I mean, their defense is
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pretty damn good. And let's not forget too. You know,
there was you know, some butting heads between him and
with Martin Dale on the defensive side of the ball too,
Like that was a whole situation. So it's not like
this is the first, like you know, this season is
the first emotion and things we've seen. There's been some
other things that have been going on over the past
couple of years, a few years now.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So do you imagine if you woke up and you
had snow on the ground and Bambi and Bamby's parents
were walking around and doing what they needed to do,
and you were finding yourself jobless. Do you stay and
enjoy watching the deer? You know, have fun in the snow,
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the new snows of the season, and now it's ushering
in the time of the holiday season, and you know,
you start playing the Christmas music? Can you play Mariah
Carey and the Christmas music right now? And this is
the situation that you find yourself in. What is next
for Brian day Ball. I mean, just like he'll stay
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all land somewhere, right, like.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Go be an offensive coordinator somewhere. But at least you
get to spend the holidays with your family. Now now
you're not have to, you know, walk around coaching an
awful team for a bad franchise and.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You get paid your check. So I guess you go,
you know, Christmas shopping and stuff like that, and you
know you get to sit there and watch Bambi run
and play in the snow, and then parents are sitting there,
like just be safe, be careful. Somebody might be trying
to shoot at you. But you know, let's go get
some berries. Let's go, let's go pick some things out,
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go get some Christmas holiday season.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
She knows moose snuckle meatballs, they got knuckle.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Moose snuckle meatballs would be amazing for you, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like now, I'm gonna be at home, like, let's turn
these Christmas carols on, you know what I mean. Let's
make sure that we make some oar derves for our
friends and hang out and smile and laugh and see
things the way that you would see them with no
pressure on you. How about that? Yes, By the way,
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if you are happening to have a little bit more
time on your hands, you might want to put your
chef hat on apron and all that good stuff. Jump
in the kitchen, make something and use original Louisiana hot sauce.
It's the perfect baltance of peppers, vinegar and salt. You
can use it on that food that you make in
that kitchen while you got all that free time because
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your tail got fired. But if you still got a job,
that's okay too, because you might be making your breakfast
and you're gonna want to put some of that hot
sauce on that.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's great for tailgate food.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's bold, it's hand crafted, it's original Louisiana hot sauce.
That's Louisiana hot.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
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Sticks? This opening song is a vital part of this
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Speaker 4 (17:52):
Man, Hell yeah, I imagine it was good.
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, you got to know you.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Before we get too far let's remember it's Veterans Day.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Thank you, yeah, absolutely, past, good question, good future, you know,
thank you for everything you have done and we'll continue
to do to protect our liveries and freedoms and this
great country. So thank you out there to all.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The veterans and so well said. Do you have snow? Q?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, all right and
it's sticking to the ground too. It's cold enough were
it ain't going anywhere right now?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yes, sticking?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, see this, How did the kids handle being in
Florida for most of their life and then now they're
in the snow?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well they their jeans are though, more like from the
Midwest or Northeast, so they're not like the type two
you know, only no warm weather like some people on
the show, you know where they grew up dodging golf balls.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The scariest thing they ever heard was you know, that's
that's not man. You know, that's not their their lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And then claim to be a hater.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And plus you can't feel cold because you're a vampire,
like that's not.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, I didn't even know he was talking about me. Oh,
sorry about that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Jonas, I was not dodging h when I was younger,
Jonas like, I'm certain we didn't come to that conclusion.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I guarantee LeVar grew up with more money.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Than I did. Guarantee that's probably true. He's probably true,
just but my dad was. He's one hundred percenter. You know,
I ever tell you all the story about when my
dad has to go get reevaluated. They actually called my
dad to come in and get reevaluated. So every every
so often, because he's one hundred percent, yeah, he's one
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hundred percent disability. He goes in. They're like, hello, sir,
da da da. So the record show, he goes, before
you go any further, he goes just like this. He goes, okay,
hey here you go. Are we good?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Here?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
They tried to give my dad different prosthetics, like through
the years. Now his legs are starting to get a
little bit weaker because he's getting a little older. So
now he's like been more you know, he's been more
open to using the updated technology. But my dad is
straight old school, so he's been wood prosthetics like his
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entire time. So when it always like real sturdy bro
like he stands on, my dad literally stands like when
they say give him the wood, Like my dad literally
has wood.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
With him at all times. He brings the wood.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Baby shouts out the big MICC, Happy Veterans Day, Big
mic and all and all of the Arringtons and Kaiser's
in my family.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That served.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, man, So that's that's kind of interesting. I don't
even know how we got off on that tangent. But
he brings the wood. That's for certain. All right, come on,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Joe Burrow is back practicing. Okay, The Cincinnati Bengals have
opened up his twenty one day practice return of through
the IRS twenty one day window coming off the IR
to practice.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
If they it is there enough to have is for
having to save the season for it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I mean, if you listen to Joe Burrow, he explained
just sort of his healing process in dealing with the
injury and also talked about the hope based on an
abnormal year for the AFC North.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You talk to a lot of different people, You talk
to people who have been through it even understanding of
what the injury is and what the repair is, and
then you just talk about it critically with the doctor
and the physical therapist and everybody involved, and you just
kind of.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Take it day by day and see how it goes. Yeah,
you know, our division is wide open. I think Pittsburgh's
five and four at this point. We play them this week,
so you know, everything is still there in front of us.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Very rare that our.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Division looks like this, but it does this year, and
you know, I think we'll be at least in it
until the end. I think it would be very difficult
for us to be a wildcard team at this point.
Obviously a lot a lot of football to be played,
but you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Know, I think that's difficult.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
I think our best path would be win the division.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
He's right, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's over.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It's not over, he said, And he's.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Back this weekend. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Now, what is he saying.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
He's not saying that, he's just talking about the division.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
When would he come back.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Probably not for another couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If Joe Burrow comes back and this team is still
one game back, He's one hundred percent correct. It's a
wide open division and it's a division that if Joe
Burrow comes back that they could possibly win if he
stays healthy.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Is he gonna play defense or is he just playing quarterbacks? Yeah,
because I'm sorry, I don't think that that's solvable. And
I think the Jets and Bears losses like kind of
ruined games they should have won, sort of ruined chances
for them to really give this a go. Like I
understand Baltimore, but if he's not back for another two
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three weeks minimum, I just and it's not even like
Joe Flacco's playing poorly, playing really well, but defensively they
can't stop anybody, Like that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Going cute, I mean I had my thoughts on it.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
No, And to Jonas's point, I mean Flacco has thrown
for over twelve hundred yards in four starts. Like he's
been incredible. He's averaging three hundred and thirteen three and
fourteen yards a game, eleven touchdowns, only two interceptions. Like
their offense isn't the issue. It's the defense. They are
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god awful, third down, red zone, whatever you want to
point to. I mean, they are dead last and scoring
dead last and total yards. It's bad man like it.
It's it doesn't matter by the way, Joe Flacco in
this four game stretch, Statistically speaking, I don't. I mean,
I don't have to go back and look like as
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I know, I know the one gave me three for
more yards than Borough ever has. Like I'm not sure
even Burrow's had a statistical stretch like Flacco's had as
far as how much he's how much, how much he's
put up. It's been pretty ridiculous. But they're not out
of it. They do have to win the division in
order to get back into it. The problem is, if
you look at their schedule, they got three of the
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next four on the road, two of which are divisional
opponents on the road, So they've got to play Pittsburgh.
He's probably not gonna be, you know, starting for this one,
so he's not even a part of that. You're then
playing New England. I know it's not a divisional game,
but that's probably another l even though you're hosting them.
Then you go back to back weeks at Baltimore at Buffalo.
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I don't know that they win a game in that stretch.
And again I realize, you know, not all those are
divisional games, but I just I don't foresee a team
with a losing record winning the AFC North. I think
it'd be Baltimore or it'll be Pittsburgh. They'll have a
winning record. And I think both those two teams right
now are much further ahead of where he's had, at
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least defensively.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm not so doom and gloom on them. I think
the AFC North is wide open. I think they have
shown those teams have shown inconsistencies that say, to me,
anything is possible. Like there, I can't predict how this
is going to play out. And if Joe Burrow can
(26:26):
get back into saddle, he's still Joe Burrow, even if
Flaco has thrown for more yards than him, even if
he's done well, even if the defense has played poorly,
it's Joe Burrow. And I feel like there's certain guys
that can have an impact on their team when they
have a return that that is impactful and profound, and
(26:48):
Joe Burrow is one of those guys. So I'm not
I'm not doom and gloom on the Bengals chances of
being able to revive a season where they are third
place in a division that has a divisional leader with
three wins, you know, or five five wins three? What
is it?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Five wins? Three wins in and the conference out. What
is it? Let me look at this, Let me look
this back up.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, five wins, but uh, three wins with three wins
at home.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, by the way, Uh, because I was nerding out
looking through stats twenty twenty one, Burrow through for five
hundred and twenty five yards and four touchdowns for the season. No, No,
in a single game.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Wait, God, that's that's damning.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Because Fla goes through to like four hundred and was
a seventy eighty something the other day.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, it was the most he's thrown for in his career.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's a lot of that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But I was curious as far as a Bengal though
Burrow through for four eighty one and twenty twenty two, five,
twenty five and twenty twenty one, he's had some of
those like outliers, huge games. Although I'd have to go
back and do like the thes. I'm trying to figure
out if brow Brow definitely threw for the way he
finished twenty twenty one, it would probably average about or
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be about the number that Flaco has been out in
four games or four starts, because he threw for five
twenty five and then four forty six and back to
back weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The Steelers have back to back losses. Correct that they
beat the Colts. They just beat the Colts this past
weekend or two makes his lots to the Chargers. They
just lost to the Charge. Yeah, I just think there's
a there's inconsistencies. And I know you want to see
a better defense, and I would like to see a
(28:39):
better defense in the AFC North as well, But I
just think that some of these teams, especially in the
AFC Nultimore just man, you could say that until this
weekend or the next weekend after like okay, they're starting
to heat up, like maybe maybe, Like I just still
think it's been inconsistencies. And when you don't see consistencies,
(29:01):
I mean just to like to think that the Dolphins
did what they did against Buffalo, like the Buffaloes were
supposed to be red hot or or or heating up,
like then they go and lose. The goud dang Saints
just won a game. How's that happened?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's just there's been a lot of inconsistencies and in
this ye.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Call your shot right now. Who is I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Call my shot, call your shot. It's it's gonna be
the Pittsburgh Steelers that end up winning it. And it's
gonna be in very very like not not dramatic fascist,
it's gonna be a six picks.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's gonna be a.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
It's gonna I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, man, so is everybody else that's in in in
the betting lines at Vegas.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Like that's what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Bet my gosh, what Larada as a pick larda?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Just?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I mean, just do it acapella if you have to kidding?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Now? Whoa that really was? That?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Really?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Was it?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
When's whens?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You really sounded just like the drop?
Speaker 10 (30:18):
Just yeah, it's real.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's a vital part of our show, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Jonas.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Tell you why right now?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I mean, do you know how many weirdos are going
to play that back on the podcast.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
I have been requested for cameo now and I'm just
curious whatever they would want to use my voice for.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Well, if you take it and accept it and do it,
you know, that's that's you know, they get to use it.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, I sure do. Do I get do I get
to pick the same team as somebody else, or do
I have to take one of the other teams.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The bigger question is your own cameo. Huh No, I don't.
I don't get how cameo came up, Like, how are
you on cameo to get a request?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
No, it's been suggested that I should go do it
because of my my popularity with my drop for point.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, there you go, Brady.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I think the message said I listened to the show
every morning, and I just want to make a suggestion
to you in case you haven't thought of it yet.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
See, I think we shore ME is trying hard to
get as many people as possible.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, they are. I didn't even that was still a thing.
I didn't know it was still a thing.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunately on the downturn.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
What do you what do you charge for something like that?
I'm not on ficks and you can leave a voice
note for somebody or something like that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm not in need of that. I don't it's not something.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm all right. So can I pick some same team
as one of you guys in the AFC North?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah? Sure, man, I mean yeah, you don't have to
pick the saying or a different one.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
We'll quote the Ravens never more. Give me Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
There you go. Baltimore has been boning us since we
started this show. You guys, go ahead get boned some more.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, it's time to time to bone back. All right, Okay,
Baltimore is gonna win that division like the way they're playing.
Like the way they're playing. They were my Super Bowl
pick to come out of the AFC, and I think
Baltimore has figured something out here and they're going to
win the AFC North in a down year. That's how
that's gonna go. Cincinnati Ato Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Nina Simone sang a song about Baltimore. You ever hear it?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, you know, Nina Simone is bring us back to Baltimore.
About Nina Simone Lorena Like it's a dope song, man,
I got you. She was talking about Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Man. So maybe you guys you know, will end up
being right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, if you're jumping on queues choosing ship, so
to speak, I mean, you know, he's not taking on
any water. It's doing really well. He's up real high
on on our weekly pick. So there you go. But
it's not how you start, it's how you finish.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But we're going to look back on this little stretch
and say, this is where Pittsburgh could have really created
some separation.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And they didn't and didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
And that's where they left the door open for any
of potential.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It's interesting because you could be right, but I don't know.
If it's for Baltimore, could be for Cincinnati.
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Speaker 4 (33:59):
Coming up next to here, Speaking of which, things are
getting a lit ugly involving one head coach and his
former team in the world of football. We'll get into
that for you right here ont FSR. It's two pros
and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the ear coming up a
little over fifteen minutes from now, we'll have the leftovers
(34:20):
that'll be yours here on FSR. But right now we're
going to welcome in a man who knows the rules
and he knows how to break him. He's Dean Blandino,
Fox Sports, NFL and college football rules analyst, and you
can get him on.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
X the show.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Welcome into the show at Dean Blandino. Dean, Good morning,
a Dean, Welcome into.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Good morning, guys, good morning.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Good morning, good morning being welcome in, Dean.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
If you were a betting man, what would you guess
one of the first questions would be about following last
night's game between the Packers. If you're a betting man,
if you were to place a wager on.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
That, place a wager.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, well, I wish I would have known that these
guys we were thrown pitches ten feet in the dirt
and and on prop bets in baseball.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
No kidding, I didn't even know that was a thing.
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I mean, you didn't get suspicious after you saw that
thing land ten feet from the plate.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
The best part is, you know, I'm a Dodgers fan,
and Andy Pie is like a free swinger, and they
showed the only they didn't didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
He ruined parlay.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
He ruined it because he swung at a pitch the
bounced three feet in front plate so good, it's.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Like, oh my god, that guy, what an awful swing. Yeah,
but you don't know, it was worse for the guys
that had the parlay going. I thought that was going
to pay out.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I feel like.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
We're gonna talk about our favorite play.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
There it is. Yeah, yeah, I didn't have to do
my little bit. But how you feel about that? I mean,
they're going it seems like they're going earlier and earlier
by the day.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
One the one last night, I mean, I know the
Packers had that was kind of a little bit of
a different, not really toush push, but the Eagles, I
mean that was like you watch that live and you go, wait,
wait a minute, like that's not I mean that was
a full felt like like a full second early. And
at this point, at this point, I'm like, Okay, they're
(36:33):
telling the officials we want this play out, just don't
call it. Just just we're just going to put all
this this tape on on on a reel at the
end of the year and.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Show it to the Competition Committee and.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Say this is too hard, and that's going to be
their strategy to get rid of it, because that was
that was about as obvious as it's been.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
So they're gonna they're going to go back to that
we can't officiate it properly, so we're just not going
to officiate it. That's how we're going to get out
of this thing exactly.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Now we're going to get out of this thing, which
is crazy.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Well, why can't you just say, like you can't push
a runner. I don't understand why that's so difficult to
bring that rule back like you used to have. We
have how many cameras on any given game, Dean, Like,
we can affociate that we have to make it revealable.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
We can officiate it, yeah, no question, and they just
and look when we took it out, we weren't the
replay process and technology wasn't where it is today. So
then you you certainly can make it like if the
official throw a flag, just have replay look at it
and go okay, yeah, there's the guy pushed them, and
it was you could put it. Once you put in
that rule, the toast push goes away because it's just
(37:36):
too obvious. The one downfield is where they feel like
they have the issues and it's harder, but you know it,
or just blow the whistle, blow the when the pile
starts is kill the.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Play and then you don't have any of it.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And that's it. And I don't think it. I think
it can be done. They just they just got to
figure you know, they'll do it.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah. I want to follow up though, in the college
football world because the next most controversial play Friday night
Southern Cal Northwestern. They run out their punter, but it's
not their punt, it's their third string quarterback. He's wearing
a different number. They throw a pass completion for the
first down. Just take me through a couple of things. One,
(38:17):
why are multiple numbers allowed at the college football level?
And then on top of that, just the you know,
the rule itself in that particular play, because I believe
the Big Ten came out and said it was illegal.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Yeah, so multiple numbers are because of the roster sizes, right,
NFL it's much easier. You have smaller roster sizes. College
it's you know, I don't think there's even the smaller
programs have have more than one hundred kids and it
used to be. You guys, remember used to have you
could have like six number threes, and then you had
(38:53):
teams that were you know, that were that were taking
you know, that had three different quarterbacks with three different styles,
and we're to put them in the same number. And
then it's going to be tough to watch film and
it's going to be tough to know who's in the game.
And so, okay, you can only have two of the
same number. That has to be on your that has
to be on your roster sheet, that is shared with
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the officials the opponent. You cannot have number eighty who's
a punter, and another number eighty who's a punter. Now,
this was I mean, it was awesomely diabolical. I mean,
this was down to they dressed that they dressed them
the same.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
I mean, the only way you know the difference between
these two guys is one guy has a has a ginger.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Mustache and the other guy's clean shave.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
And it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
He was wearing I think you were was wearing, was
wearing kicking shoes and so but once they had you
were listened as a quarterback, they had the other kid, Johnson,
whatever his name is, listed as the punter, but you
can't play them both at punter, and that has to
be the officials. And it's really hard on officials because
how are they going to know? So there's procedures and
(40:00):
it's not legal, you can't do it. Obviously they got
away with it, but I think this will be something
that will probably put a little more you know, teeth
into the protocol to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
Dean.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Uh. You know, every week you come on and you
have to answer questions that are specific to one topic,
and it's obviously about officiating and rules.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I kind of feel like that gets a little redundant,
So I kind of want to hit you with something
a little different. Like at one point you were doing
stand up comedy, like, yeah, are you funny? Bro?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Like what type of comedian?
Speaker 9 (40:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
What type of comedian are you? Like?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like what like can you like just jump into it
and make a person is a rehearse?
Speaker 6 (40:51):
What do you mean?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Like? What do you mean my funny?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Like?
Speaker 9 (40:54):
What am I like? I'm a clown?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Like what?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Not like no, no, no, no, no, you know you know
what you said, You're a big boy.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
What am I I see what you're doing. I see
what you're doing right now. But I'm just really curious,
are you can you make can you make us laugh?
Like are you good at or where you or where
you short lived as a comedian with stand up because
you might have not have been as funny and then
that led to you then getting into officiating.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Yes, as a normal, normal transition.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, you know, I couldn't make people laugh, So I
want to started calling games, you know, and how and
how did you enroll? By the way, like how did
you enroll into officiating? Like how do you get into
Like I'm not going to be a stand up comedian.
I'm just going to go into officiating, Like I'm acquiring
minds want to know?
Speaker 9 (41:50):
So I wasn't. I didn't. I didn't know anything about officiating.
I didn't. It wasn't like a dream of mine.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I've played sports whole life.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
I love I love sports, and one of.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
The get involved when I got out of school, graduated,
I want to get involved in sports.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
You know, I didn't know what that looked like.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Set my resume to the NFL, Major League Baseball, you know,
growing up in New York, all the offices are in
New York City and about Gaulton just had a couple
of internship opportunities.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
I went in interviewed.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
One was in officiating, and I got that position and
that was it. And then I just learned officiating from
a lot of good people and looking at film and
breaking down film, that kind of thing. And then I
started doing stand up comedy because somebody I met at
the NFL was also doing comedy and said, hey, you
should try it, and I liked it.
Speaker 9 (42:37):
It was never it was never a career path for me.
It was never something I said, oh, I want to
do this.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
I always knew that my path was at the NFL
and what I was doing there.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Who was the answer?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Oh so it wasn't even a mentor.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
It was a girl.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Her name and you can look her up.
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Her name is val Gamble. She's awesome.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
She was actually in do you remember the movie House
Party with Kid and Play? He was She was in
House Party, had a couple of lines in House Parties.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
She was doing stand up acting and was part.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Of like a friend group when I first started.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
We would all hang out and she and laur if.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
You will get a chance, Brady knows we'll get a chance.
To hang out like in a social setting. I'm not
a I'm not a walk in the room. I got
to be the center of attention. I'm like sneaky, funny,
like you'll just yeah, he's a low key really like
quality over quantity.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Okay, witty, you're a witty comed comedic guy.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
Get I can, I can whatever whatever you want? You want,
witty you want, you know whatever, whatever.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
He's got a quick wit. He understands like what needs
to be said, what's appropriate to the only thing I
regret is at the Fox seminar and Petress talks about
this all the time, Dean. Everyone's kind of talking, but
like most people were kind of talking but looking to see, like,
all right, who else is here? Like losses do I
(44:03):
have to avoid like that? You know that whole thing
are like, oh I have to say hello to It's
like a lot of that going on too, So I
feel like I only get about I don't know, two
three four minutes of like really good content from Dean
before he has to move on and he has to
talk to other people, probably his new best friend Tom Brady.
Whoever else is there?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So exactly so he's too good for you now is
what you're trying to say.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah, as soon as Tom Joynt. It seems I was
the number one Brady until Tom joined.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Actually were you were?
Speaker 9 (44:33):
But now he passed? Yes, that's true.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
And we go back to a four hour radio show
on satellite radio where Dean would have to go through
a list of twelve different plays every single week. We'd
bring him on and he would have to decipher this
and it's usually the same thing, like the same I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Doing that again in about five hours.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Was in Juice too? Huh? She was like in some movies,
like she did a few things.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I remember from House Party.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
No, you don't do not Can I ask a serious
question about inficiating? I go back to officiating because I
don't get much of Dean's attention anymore. H Dean, I've
got a call game this week. There was a couple
of rough in the passers. Can you go through like
what needs to constitute a rough in the passer either
how they're landing on them or like low on them,
contact to the helmet, because there was one of the
(45:25):
in the Saints Panthers game on Bryce Young that I
was like, all right, like that seems like it was
a little bit incidental Is there even room for incidental
in that regard?
Speaker 4 (45:34):
And the Dallas Turner I thought actually was roughing the
pastor on Dallas Turner and people were outraged by that too.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Yes, the Dallas Turner won.
Speaker 9 (45:42):
That's more of what we're looking for. That's more.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Look you watch him leave his feet and kind of
stuff them.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Into the ground.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
That's the foule versus like Jack Campbell two weeks ago,
you know, against JJ McCarthy, where he just tackled him.
There is room for incidental contact. I mean, that's a
judgment call. It's not any contact in the headneck area.
It's got to be forcible contact. So if it's like
a glance, it's not a foul. But that's subjective and
(46:12):
the officials trying to make that decision in real time.
And then the only part replay can get involved in
is if there is contact, and if there is to
the headneck area, that replay can't pick it up. They
can't get involved in the severity.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Of the contact.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I have a quick one for you, because this has
always confused me. When the play clock goes to zero,
how come sometimes they'll blow it dead or a delay
a game, And sometimes they'll just let the play go
even though it's clearly at zero and they haven't snapped
the ball yet.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
I mean there was one last night where I thought
it was clearly that should have.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Been a foul.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
The clock was at zero and I think it was
a big play, third down or whatever it was. But
the mechanic is the back judge in the deep official
that bet officials like twenty five yards in watter of
scrimmage in the middle of the field, is responsible for
the play clock when the clock get now, they have
pre snap, they have pre snap responsibilities. They're looking at
(47:09):
the formation, reading the formation, looking where their key has
you know, they start with an eligible receiver where they
have to go, and then the play clock gets under ten,
they start to focus on that. Once the clock hits zero,
they look to see what the ball is doing. If
the ball has started to move, it's it's not a foul.
If the ball is still on the ground and the
snapper hasn't begun the snaps.
Speaker 9 (47:29):
It's it's delayed game.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
So there is a people talk about there's a delay.
It shouldn't be. It's we're talking about split second, not
not a long delay, And it could be something where
the official just doesn't doesn't focus or doesn't get their
eyes down where they need to be a lot of
times when they miss the delay game.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
And so that that's kind of how that works.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Uh, Dean always a good time. Fox Sports, NFL college
football rules analysts get them on x ad Dean Blandino.
We appreciate it, and uh, hey, I think you're funny cool.
Speaker 9 (47:59):
I appreciate I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
That's so passive.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
That is that's that's a guest suck up. Fine, that
is ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, up, I don't That is horrible.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Some people will call it a guest suck for sure,
but that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
You know what, Brady, that you are all in on
that one. That was really really on point accurate, Like this.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
Is you want to be in the locker room, Jones,
this is this is how it works.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Buddy, wait to jack up an interview. Jona's like, God, leave,
Bro said, here's the thing is, you're so funny to me, Dean, Like,
I don't.
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, the Giants are looking for a uh, I'm gonna
be looking for new head coach. Brian day Ball. N
Brian day Ball is out. He is no longer the
head coach of the New York Giants. Following the gag
job on Sunday against the Bears, Jackson nardco out with
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the concussion, Russell Wilson stepping in and not able to
get anything going, and thus Brian Dayball is gone. The
Giants make the decision to fire him. Given a long
enough leash, you know, three three plus years, but it
just wasn't getting any better, and I kind of just
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didn't looking at the way it was already being framed. Hey,
this is the fourth time Jackson Dart's been, you know,
evaluated for concussion, the Blue medical tent incident. It just
now I wonder, Yeah, it's kind of will you know,
is he good for the safety of the player, Does
he have the player's best And it just felt like
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that's the way that this was going to be framed.
So he's gone. But Joe.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Like the truth.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Okay, he's been evaluated four times for a concussion.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Okay, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But you was saying, is is it? It's just the truth,
It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But is it Brian da Ball's fault? The Jackson Dart
doesn't slide and and he plays the way that he's playing.
Is that really Brian dave Balls's fault? Because they were
even talking about during the game.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
If you're if you're having him run oftentimes, yeah, then
you're subjecting him to more of that. And if you
are coaching a player and the player keeps doing something
you've told him not to do, clearly the coach isn't
getting to the player. I mean, if Scott Shapiro kept
telling you to not do something and you kept doing it,
eventually it's his job to either take you out or.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
To go show. You're not going to be doing the show.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I mean, not that complicated.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
He got evaluated for a concussion four times? Did he
get four concussions?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Well, some people, depending on who you ask, would probably
say potentially. And I don't know that that's the angle
you want to take. Like that's a hill to die on.
Most likely I'm not here to die on. I would
say this, like, do we feel like the growth of
Jackson Dart is best suited to be and in Davo's hands.
I think that's what this is now. The injury portion
is part of it. Obviously, they're subjecting him to more
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injuries by the way they run him, the way they're
calling plays. Even if Jackson Darts not protect himself getting down,
he'll eventually learn that. But you know, they also can
help by not putting him in that situation. But you
look at like Russell Wilson where he was a year
ago to where he is now, dramatic difference, and a
lot of people just say, well, Russ is washed, He's
not any good. Okay, Well, look at Daniel Jones with
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the Anneapolis Colts, a career year, career year MVP candid.
Everyone said he was washed, all the Giants fans said
he was washed. So unfortunately, there's been a lot of
you know, damning progress or you know, in one case
Daniel Jones and how he's playing. In another case, in
seeing Jackson Dart kind of stay the same, like not
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really evolving or developing as a young quarterback kind of
just being the same, fun to watch. You could tell
he's got talent, but subjecting himself being Harm's way and
Russell Wilson kind of in this like drop off position.
And the truth of the matter is he's won what
eleven of the last forty four games, and the Giants
ownership has been patient, Like after that first year they
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go to the playoff like okay, like they got some momentum,
but it's been an absolute collapse. There was reports he
was gonna get fired after their collapse in Denver. It
just it only felt like a matter of time with
the way he conducted himself, the emotions you see on
the sidelines. You mentioned the blue tent situation. I mean,
all that stuff. It's just a bad look. So this
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wasn't surprising to me. I think what was surprising was,
you know, general manager Joe Shane will still stay. Not
only stay, he'll be a part of the decision making
process in the next head coach.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Super Bowl Champ defensive captain Antonio Pierce. Baby I put
his hat in the ring for head coach. He got
a raw deal in Las Vegas. Let's go with Antonio Pierce.
Everyone Antonio Piers, Yes, Antonio Peers for next I'm starting
the campaign. Uh, you know, it's a sad moment in
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time for an organization that has been a historical organization
connected to the National Football League. The class that the
mayor and Tisch family and grace that they have had
as ownership and as people through the years is very
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very well well documented. It's just a well ran, classy organization.
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Everybody says that the team sucks, and they've sucked for
a decade.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that is something that they have to dress and
addressing a way where you can start to get back
to the stability of what they represented as as an organization.
And I don't know how they get there. I'm sure
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they've been trying. I mean, I don't think that they
would ever in their wildest dreams thought that the decisions
that they were making, even though one played out on
camera where you heard was it Steve Tish I believe
or it was one or it was one and maybe
it was one of the mirrors. It was one of
the mirrors that that said, you know, I can't I
can't see us letting Saquon go to another team. He's
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one of our most popular guys. Dada, I won't sleep
at night if he goes to Philly and lo and
behold he goes to Philly, it was against his better judgment.
I almost believe that, you know, the ones who who
understand it as well as they do within the building
have to They have to make sure that the organization
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is representing what it is that is right in common sense,
common sense acceptable, like don't do something as stupid as
get rid of sa Kwon Barkley. And if you can
figure out, you know how to use your players effectively,
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I mean, where are you? How far off? What is
it that is wrong with the New York Giants that
you can't get the production out of Saquon that you
need to get, which you did get pretty good production
out of him, but can't get more production out of
Daniel Jones like the Colts are getting right now? What's
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so different in New York that you can't get those
results there and he's getting them in in Indianapolis. I
just think that there has to be really a come
to Jesus moment where they trust their guts on the
things that they're doing, and you bring in people that
are going to see it from the perspective of what
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they have always seen historically of what the New York
Giants represent. I don't know that that's what it's been
with the coaches that they've brought in. I don't know,
but I know. I mean, I'm not saying this guys
is my best friend. I'm just saying one of my
best friends. I'm just saying, bring in a guy who
understands it to the level of where they went all
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the way to the Super Bowl and be one of
the greatest teams. If not, it's great team to not
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
This is a great point. You know what, I'm throwing
the meat Wagon's hat for this job. Yeah, me waggon, Yeah,
play linebacker. Yeah, there was a thing or two about
some toughness. Yeah, yeah, me wagon in there for the
next half, Giants throw you're a friend, and I'll throw
them one of my friends and the baby.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like linebackers coach though, you know, yeah linebackers coach me
wagon for LB's coach. Baby, Well, just.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Pe What Bob Yaka told him back in was that
Eastern Michigan you know, I want you to run down
there on kickoff, like you're a black tar heroin. That's
what his coach told him. He's like, I want you
to have run down there on kickoff. You're a black
tar heroin.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So if you told, if you were to tell your coach,
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He's what he said. He looked at me like, I
don't I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Whatever, what are having a black tar heroin? They used
to be a thing. I believe it's uh, you can
get it at a seven eleven out here if you
look hard enough.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That sounds like a person who was partaking in black
tar heroin.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's that's what sounds like.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Run down there.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You don't just randomly say something like that like he
he must have been running downfields on black heroin. Dang,
Like where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So the obviously the two moves that people look at
and go Daniel Jones is playing at a high level.
What happened there? Saquon Barkley, you know, damn near won
the MVP last year, ran for two thousand yards. What
happened there? I mean those are Joe Shane decisions, right,
because I remember when Daniel Jones got the extension from
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the Giants, Joe Shane even said publicly, well, if I
would have known, he would have had that year. You know,
if I could have read into the future, I would
have picked up his fifth year option or something along
those lines. And it feels like he's keeping his job.
But Brian Daball is gone. Is this just to give
him another opportunity to see if you can hire a
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different coach and have this going in a better direction,
Because those are the two moves people look at and
it feels like Joe Shane's fingerprints are all over both
of those, like he was the guy who made the
call on those.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I think it's a great yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean, look, was Joe Shane involved in this to
he save himself, of course, But at the same time,
I'd look at this and just say, I think they
had a good working relationship. I think what occurred, and
from what my intel has told me is, you know,
people in this this report that came out, people started
listening to the headset and that was maybe one of
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the more damning things that occurred during the time of
Brian Daviles's tenure, is they you know, heard how he
was coaching, how he was talking, the emotions tied to it,
all the whole situation. They just they kind of felt like, Okay,
this isn't getting better. Yeah, Like it's just it's not
getting better. You know, this isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Moving towards a point. Can you give us some insight
on like, like, cause I hear what you're saying, But
it could be a couple of different things, right. It
could be detached, you know, kind of dismissive. It could
be aggressive like you mother aff.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Like you see his emotions on the sidelines, like that's
not any different than how he is.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I just wanted to go to our listeners that you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Look, he's a good, fiery coach. He wears his emotions
on his sleeve, and that as a head coach is
good at times and other times it's not. As a leader,
it's good at times, other times it's not. And if
you've got that the type of ownership that looks at
that and says, that's not really what we want. You know,
we don't want this guy who we feel like is
you know, all over the place at times with his
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emotions on the sidelines, or it looks like he's given
up completely. I mean, even his emotions about you know,
Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart and just how the whole
injury ten incident went down. You know, that's just one player,
one position. Could you imagine how he applies that to
the others It's the same thing. So I'm sure there's
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you know, maybe a general feel because it's not like
the more as the Titis aren't close to the players
and around that organization, they probably have a good feel
for the players on that team, and some of them
might feel like, hey man, we're over this, like this
this is we can't ride this roller coaster every week,
and this isn't getting any better. Like I said, the
reality is of their last what forty games whatever it's been,
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or forty they've won eleven games like that just isn't
good enough. Like they have been patient over the last
two seasons and then into this one. Yeah, I mean,
I just I look at and say, like it was
this organization since the first year he got there going
in the right direction. It wasn't. And if you want
to put that on Joe Shane as well, that there's
maybe some truth of that. But the truth of the
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matter is as well, like he found Skataboo where he did,
he drafted Jackson Dart where he did, as much as
you want to point to, like, hey, they didn't get
the Saquon Barkley thing, you know, figured out, Okay, that
was a miss and that might be on Joe Shane
or lack of intel, whatever you want to put on
because it was very public. But they also have some
pieces that they have added. I mean, their defense is
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pretty damn good. And let's not forget too. You know,
there was you know, some butting heads between him and
with Martin Dale on the defensive side of the ball too,
Like that was a whole situation. So it's not like
this is the first, like you know, this season is
the first emotion and things we've seen. There's been some
other things that have been going on over the past
couple of years, a few years now.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So do you imagine if you woke up and you
had snow on the ground and Bambi and Bamby's parents
were walking around and doing what they needed to do,
and you were finding yourself jobless. Do you stay and
enjoy watching the deer? You know, have fun in the snow,
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the new snows of the season, and now it's ushering
in the time of the holiday season, and you know,
you start playing the Christmas music? Can you play Mariah
Carey and the Christmas music right now? And this is
the situation that you find yourself in. What is next
for Brian day Ball. I mean, just like he'll stay
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all land somewhere, right, like.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Go be an offensive coordinator somewhere. But at least you
get to spend the holidays with your family. Now now
you're not have to, you know, walk around coaching an
awful team for a bad franchise and.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You get paid your check. So I guess you go,
you know, Christmas shopping and stuff like that, and you
know you get to sit there and watch Bambi run
and play in the snow, and then parents are sitting there,
like just be safe, be careful. Somebody might be trying
to shoot at you. But you know, let's go get
some berries. Let's go, let's go pick some things out,
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go get some Christmas holiday season.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
She knows moose snuckle meatballs, they got knuckle.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Moose snuckle meatballs would be amazing for you, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like now, I'm gonna be at home, like, let's turn
these Christmas carols on, you know what I mean. Let's
make sure that we make some oar derves for our
friends and hang out and smile and laugh and see
things the way that you would see them with no
pressure on you. How about that? Yes, By the way,
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if you are happening to have a little bit more
time on your hands, you might want to put your
chef hat on apron and all that good stuff. Jump
in the kitchen, make something and use original Louisiana hot sauce.
It's the perfect baltance of peppers, vinegar and salt. You
can use it on that food that you make in
that kitchen while you got all that free time because
(17:13):
your tail got fired. But if you still got a job,
that's okay too, because you might be making your breakfast
and you're gonna want to put some of that hot
sauce on that.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's great for tailgate food.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's bold, it's hand crafted, it's original Louisiana hot sauce.
That's Louisiana hot.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
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Man, Hell yeah, I imagine it was good.
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, you got to know you.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Before we get too far let's remember it's Veterans Day.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Thank you, yeah, absolutely, past, good question, good future, you know,
thank you for everything you have done and we'll continue
to do to protect our liveries and freedoms and this
great country. So thank you out there to all.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The veterans and so well said. Do you have snow? Q?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, all right and
it's sticking to the ground too. It's cold enough were
it ain't going anywhere right now?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yes, sticking?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, see this, How did the kids handle being in
Florida for most of their life and then now they're
in the snow?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well they their jeans are though, more like from the
Midwest or Northeast, so they're not like the type two
you know, only no warm weather like some people on
the show, you know where they grew up dodging golf balls.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The scariest thing they ever heard was you know, that's
that's not man. You know, that's not their their lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And then claim to be a hater.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And plus you can't feel cold because you're a vampire,
like that's not.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, I didn't even know he was talking about me. Oh,
sorry about that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Jonas, I was not dodging h when I was younger,
Jonas like, I'm certain we didn't come to that conclusion.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I guarantee LeVar grew up with more money.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Than I did. Guarantee that's probably true. He's probably true,
just but my dad was. He's one hundred percenter. You know,
I ever tell you all the story about when my
dad has to go get reevaluated. They actually called my
dad to come in and get reevaluated. So every every
so often, because he's one hundred percent, yeah, he's one
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hundred percent disability. He goes in. They're like, hello, sir,
da da da. So the record show, he goes, before
you go any further, he goes just like this. He goes, okay,
hey here you go. Are we good?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Here?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
They tried to give my dad different prosthetics, like through
the years. Now his legs are starting to get a
little bit weaker because he's getting a little older. So
now he's like been more you know, he's been more
open to using the updated technology. But my dad is
straight old school, so he's been wood prosthetics like his
(21:08):
entire time. So when it always like real sturdy bro
like he stands on, my dad literally stands like when
they say give him the wood, Like my dad literally
has wood.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
With him at all times. He brings the wood.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Baby shouts out the big MICC, Happy Veterans Day, Big
mic and all and all of the Arringtons and Kaiser's
in my family.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That served.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, man, So that's that's kind of interesting. I don't
even know how we got off on that tangent. But
he brings the wood. That's for certain. All right, come on,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Joe Burrow is back practicing. Okay, The Cincinnati Bengals have
opened up his twenty one day practice return of through
the IRS twenty one day window coming off the IR
to practice.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
If they it is there enough to have is for
having to save the season for it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I mean, if you listen to Joe Burrow, he explained
just sort of his healing process in dealing with the
injury and also talked about the hope based on an
abnormal year for the AFC North.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You talk to a lot of different people, You talk
to people who have been through it even understanding of
what the injury is and what the repair is, and
then you just talk about it critically with the doctor
and the physical therapist and everybody involved, and you just
kind of.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Take it day by day and see how it goes. Yeah,
you know, our division is wide open. I think Pittsburgh's
five and four at this point. We play them this week,
so you know, everything is still there in front of us.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Very rare that our.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Division looks like this, but it does this year, and
you know, I think we'll be at least in it
until the end. I think it would be very difficult
for us to be a wildcard team at this point.
Obviously a lot a lot of football to be played,
but you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Know, I think that's difficult.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
I think our best path would be win the division.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
He's right, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's over.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It's not over, he said, And he's.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Back this weekend. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Now, what is he saying.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
He's not saying that, he's just talking about the division.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
When would he come back.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Probably not for another couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If Joe Burrow comes back and this team is still
one game back, He's one hundred percent correct. It's a
wide open division and it's a division that if Joe
Burrow comes back that they could possibly win if he
stays healthy.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Is he gonna play defense or is he just playing quarterbacks? Yeah,
because I'm sorry, I don't think that that's solvable. And
I think the Jets and Bears losses like kind of
ruined games they should have won, sort of ruined chances
for them to really give this a go. Like I
understand Baltimore, but if he's not back for another two
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three weeks minimum, I just and it's not even like
Joe Flacco's playing poorly, playing really well, but defensively they
can't stop anybody, Like that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Going cute, I mean I had my thoughts on it.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
No, And to Jonas's point, I mean Flacco has thrown
for over twelve hundred yards in four starts. Like he's
been incredible. He's averaging three hundred and thirteen three and
fourteen yards a game, eleven touchdowns, only two interceptions. Like
their offense isn't the issue. It's the defense. They are
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god awful, third down, red zone, whatever you want to
point to. I mean, they are dead last and scoring
dead last and total yards. It's bad man like it.
It's it doesn't matter by the way, Joe Flacco in
this four game stretch, Statistically speaking, I don't. I mean,
I don't have to go back and look like as
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I know, I know the one gave me three for
more yards than Borough ever has. Like I'm not sure
even Burrow's had a statistical stretch like Flacco's had as
far as how much he's how much, how much he's
put up. It's been pretty ridiculous. But they're not out
of it. They do have to win the division in
order to get back into it. The problem is, if
you look at their schedule, they got three of the
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next four on the road, two of which are divisional
opponents on the road, So they've got to play Pittsburgh.
He's probably not gonna be, you know, starting for this one,
so he's not even a part of that. You're then
playing New England. I know it's not a divisional game,
but that's probably another l even though you're hosting them.
Then you go back to back weeks at Baltimore at Buffalo.
(25:38):
I don't know that they win a game in that stretch.
And again I realize, you know, not all those are
divisional games, but I just I don't foresee a team
with a losing record winning the AFC North. I think
it'd be Baltimore or it'll be Pittsburgh. They'll have a
winning record. And I think both those two teams right
now are much further ahead of where he's had, at
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least defensively.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm not so doom and gloom on them. I think
the AFC North is wide open. I think they have
shown those teams have shown inconsistencies that say, to me,
anything is possible. Like there, I can't predict how this
is going to play out. And if Joe Burrow can
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get back into saddle, he's still Joe Burrow, even if
Flaco has thrown for more yards than him, even if
he's done well, even if the defense has played poorly,
it's Joe Burrow. And I feel like there's certain guys
that can have an impact on their team when they
have a return that that is impactful and profound, and
(26:48):
Joe Burrow is one of those guys. So I'm not
I'm not doom and gloom on the Bengals chances of
being able to revive a season where they are third
place in a division that has a divisional leader with
three wins, you know, or five five wins three? What
is it?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Five wins? Three wins in and the conference out. What
is it? Let me look at this, Let me look
this back up.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, five wins, but uh, three wins with three wins
at home.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, by the way, Uh, because I was nerding out
looking through stats twenty twenty one, Burrow through for five
hundred and twenty five yards and four touchdowns for the season. No, No,
in a single game.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Wait, God, that's that's damning.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Because Fla goes through to like four hundred and was
a seventy eighty something the other day.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, it was the most he's thrown for in his career.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's a lot of that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But I was curious as far as a Bengal though
Burrow through for four eighty one and twenty twenty two, five,
twenty five and twenty twenty one, he's had some of
those like outliers, huge games. Although I'd have to go
back and do like the thes. I'm trying to figure
out if brow Brow definitely threw for the way he
finished twenty twenty one, it would probably average about or
(28:09):
be about the number that Flaco has been out in
four games or four starts, because he threw for five
twenty five and then four forty six and back to
back weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The Steelers have back to back losses. Correct that they
beat the Colts. They just beat the Colts this past
weekend or two makes his lots to the Chargers. They
just lost to the Charge. Yeah, I just think there's
a there's inconsistencies. And I know you want to see
a better defense, and I would like to see a
(28:39):
better defense in the AFC North as well, But I
just think that some of these teams, especially in the
AFC Nultimore just man, you could say that until this
weekend or the next weekend after like okay, they're starting
to heat up, like maybe maybe, Like I just still
think it's been inconsistencies. And when you don't see consistencies,
(29:01):
I mean just to like to think that the Dolphins
did what they did against Buffalo, like the Buffaloes were
supposed to be red hot or or or heating up,
like then they go and lose. The goud dang Saints
just won a game. How's that happened?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's just there's been a lot of inconsistencies and in
this ye.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Call your shot right now. Who is I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Call my shot, call your shot. It's it's gonna be
the Pittsburgh Steelers that end up winning it. And it's
gonna be in very very like not not dramatic fascist,
it's gonna be a six picks.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's gonna be a.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
It's gonna I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, man, so is everybody else that's in in in
the betting lines at Vegas.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Like that's what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Bet my gosh, what Larada as a pick larda?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Just?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I mean, just do it acapella if you have to kidding?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Now? Whoa that really was? That?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Really?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Was it?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
When's whens?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You really sounded just like the drop?
Speaker 10 (30:18):
Just yeah, it's real.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's a vital part of our show, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Jonas.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Tell you why right now?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I mean, do you know how many weirdos are going
to play that back on the podcast.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
I have been requested for cameo now and I'm just
curious whatever they would want to use my voice for.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Well, if you take it and accept it and do it,
you know, that's that's you know, they get to use it.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, I sure do. Do I get do I get
to pick the same team as somebody else, or do
I have to take one of the other teams.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The bigger question is your own cameo. Huh No, I don't.
I don't get how cameo came up, Like, how are
you on cameo to get a request?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
No, it's been suggested that I should go do it
because of my my popularity with my drop for point.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, there you go, Brady.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I think the message said I listened to the show
every morning, and I just want to make a suggestion
to you in case you haven't thought of it yet.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
See, I think we shore ME is trying hard to
get as many people as possible.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, they are. I didn't even that was still a thing.
I didn't know it was still a thing.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunately on the downturn.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
What do you what do you charge for something like that?
I'm not on ficks and you can leave a voice
note for somebody or something like that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm not in need of that. I don't it's not something.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm all right. So can I pick some same team
as one of you guys in the AFC North?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah? Sure, man, I mean yeah, you don't have to
pick the saying or a different one.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
We'll quote the Ravens never more. Give me Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
There you go. Baltimore has been boning us since we
started this show. You guys, go ahead get boned some more.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, it's time to time to bone back. All right, Okay,
Baltimore is gonna win that division like the way they're playing.
Like the way they're playing. They were my Super Bowl
pick to come out of the AFC, and I think
Baltimore has figured something out here and they're going to
win the AFC North in a down year. That's how
that's gonna go. Cincinnati Ato Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Nina Simone sang a song about Baltimore. You ever hear it?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, you know, Nina Simone is bring us back to Baltimore.
About Nina Simone Lorena Like it's a dope song, man,
I got you. She was talking about Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Man. So maybe you guys you know, will end up
being right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, if you're jumping on queues choosing ship, so
to speak, I mean, you know, he's not taking on
any water. It's doing really well. He's up real high
on on our weekly pick. So there you go. But
it's not how you start, it's how you finish.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But we're going to look back on this little stretch
and say, this is where Pittsburgh could have really created
some separation.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And they didn't and didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
And that's where they left the door open for any
of potential.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It's interesting because you could be right, but I don't know.
If it's for Baltimore, could be for Cincinnati.
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Speaker 4 (33:59):
Coming up next to here, Speaking of which, things are
getting a lit ugly involving one head coach and his
former team in the world of football. We'll get into
that for you right here ont FSR. It's two pros
and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the ear coming up a
little over fifteen minutes from now, we'll have the leftovers
(34:20):
that'll be yours here on FSR. But right now we're
going to welcome in a man who knows the rules
and he knows how to break him. He's Dean Blandino,
Fox Sports, NFL and college football rules analyst, and you
can get him on.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
X the show.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Welcome into the show at Dean Blandino. Dean, Good morning,
a Dean, Welcome into.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Good morning, guys, good morning.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Good morning, good morning being welcome in, Dean.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
If you were a betting man, what would you guess
one of the first questions would be about following last
night's game between the Packers. If you're a betting man,
if you were to place a wager on.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
That, place a wager.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, well, I wish I would have known that these
guys we were thrown pitches ten feet in the dirt
and and on prop bets in baseball.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
No kidding, I didn't even know that was a thing.
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I mean, you didn't get suspicious after you saw that
thing land ten feet from the plate.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
The best part is, you know, I'm a Dodgers fan,
and Andy Pie is like a free swinger, and they
showed the only they didn't didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
He ruined parlay.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
He ruined it because he swung at a pitch the
bounced three feet in front plate so good, it's.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Like, oh my god, that guy, what an awful swing. Yeah,
but you don't know, it was worse for the guys
that had the parlay going. I thought that was going
to pay out.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I feel like.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
We're gonna talk about our favorite play.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
There it is. Yeah, yeah, I didn't have to do
my little bit. But how you feel about that? I mean,
they're going it seems like they're going earlier and earlier
by the day.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
One the one last night, I mean, I know the
Packers had that was kind of a little bit of
a different, not really toush push, but the Eagles, I
mean that was like you watch that live and you go, wait,
wait a minute, like that's not I mean that was
a full felt like like a full second early. And
at this point, at this point, I'm like, Okay, they're
(36:33):
telling the officials we want this play out, just don't
call it. Just just we're just going to put all
this this tape on on on a reel at the
end of the year and.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Show it to the Competition Committee and.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Say this is too hard, and that's going to be
their strategy to get rid of it, because that was
that was about as obvious as it's been.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
So they're gonna they're going to go back to that
we can't officiate it properly, so we're just not going
to officiate it. That's how we're going to get out
of this thing exactly.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Now we're going to get out of this thing, which
is crazy.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Well, why can't you just say, like you can't push
a runner. I don't understand why that's so difficult to
bring that rule back like you used to have. We
have how many cameras on any given game, Dean, Like,
we can affociate that we have to make it revealable.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
We can officiate it, yeah, no question, and they just
and look when we took it out, we weren't the
replay process and technology wasn't where it is today. So
then you you certainly can make it like if the
official throw a flag, just have replay look at it
and go okay, yeah, there's the guy pushed them, and
it was you could put it. Once you put in
that rule, the toast push goes away because it's just
(37:36):
too obvious. The one downfield is where they feel like
they have the issues and it's harder, but you know it,
or just blow the whistle, blow the when the pile
starts is kill the.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Play and then you don't have any of it.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And that's it. And I don't think it. I think
it can be done. They just they just got to
figure you know, they'll do it.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah. I want to follow up though, in the college
football world because the next most controversial play Friday night
Southern Cal Northwestern. They run out their punter, but it's
not their punt, it's their third string quarterback. He's wearing
a different number. They throw a pass completion for the
first down. Just take me through a couple of things. One,
(38:17):
why are multiple numbers allowed at the college football level?
And then on top of that, just the you know,
the rule itself in that particular play, because I believe
the Big Ten came out and said it was illegal.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Yeah, so multiple numbers are because of the roster sizes, right,
NFL it's much easier. You have smaller roster sizes. College
it's you know, I don't think there's even the smaller
programs have have more than one hundred kids and it
used to be. You guys, remember used to have you
could have like six number threes, and then you had
(38:53):
teams that were you know, that were that were taking
you know, that had three different quarterbacks with three different styles,
and we're to put them in the same number. And
then it's going to be tough to watch film and
it's going to be tough to know who's in the game.
And so, okay, you can only have two of the
same number. That has to be on your that has
to be on your roster sheet, that is shared with
(39:14):
the officials the opponent. You cannot have number eighty who's
a punter, and another number eighty who's a punter. Now,
this was I mean, it was awesomely diabolical. I mean,
this was down to they dressed that they dressed them
the same.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
I mean, the only way you know the difference between
these two guys is one guy has a has a ginger.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Mustache and the other guy's clean shave.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
And it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
He was wearing I think you were was wearing, was
wearing kicking shoes and so but once they had you
were listened as a quarterback, they had the other kid, Johnson,
whatever his name is, listed as the punter, but you
can't play them both at punter, and that has to
be the officials. And it's really hard on officials because
how are they going to know? So there's procedures and
(40:00):
it's not legal, you can't do it. Obviously they got
away with it, but I think this will be something
that will probably put a little more you know, teeth
into the protocol to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
Dean.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Uh. You know, every week you come on and you
have to answer questions that are specific to one topic,
and it's obviously about officiating and rules.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I kind of feel like that gets a little redundant,
So I kind of want to hit you with something
a little different. Like at one point you were doing
stand up comedy, like, yeah, are you funny? Bro?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Like what type of comedian?
Speaker 9 (40:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
What type of comedian are you? Like?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like what like can you like just jump into it
and make a person is a rehearse?
Speaker 6 (40:51):
What do you mean?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Like? What do you mean my funny?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Like?
Speaker 9 (40:54):
What am I like? I'm a clown?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Like what?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Not like no, no, no, no, no, you know you know
what you said, You're a big boy.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
What am I I see what you're doing. I see
what you're doing right now. But I'm just really curious,
are you can you make can you make us laugh?
Like are you good at or where you or where
you short lived as a comedian with stand up because
you might have not have been as funny and then
that led to you then getting into officiating.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Yes, as a normal, normal transition.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, you know, I couldn't make people laugh, So I
want to started calling games, you know, and how and
how did you enroll? By the way, like how did
you enroll into officiating? Like how do you get into
Like I'm not going to be a stand up comedian.
I'm just going to go into officiating, Like I'm acquiring
minds want to know?
Speaker 9 (41:50):
So I wasn't. I didn't. I didn't know anything about officiating.
I didn't. It wasn't like a dream of mine.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I've played sports whole life.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
I love I love sports, and one of.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
The get involved when I got out of school, graduated,
I want to get involved in sports.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
You know, I didn't know what that looked like.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Set my resume to the NFL, Major League Baseball, you know,
growing up in New York, all the offices are in
New York City and about Gaulton just had a couple
of internship opportunities.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
I went in interviewed.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
One was in officiating, and I got that position and
that was it. And then I just learned officiating from
a lot of good people and looking at film and
breaking down film, that kind of thing. And then I
started doing stand up comedy because somebody I met at
the NFL was also doing comedy and said, hey, you
should try it, and I liked it.
Speaker 9 (42:37):
It was never it was never a career path for me.
It was never something I said, oh, I want to
do this.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
I always knew that my path was at the NFL
and what I was doing there.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Who was the answer?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Oh so it wasn't even a mentor.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
It was a girl.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Her name and you can look her up.
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Her name is val Gamble. She's awesome.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
She was actually in do you remember the movie House
Party with Kid and Play? He was She was in
House Party, had a couple of lines in House Parties.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
She was doing stand up acting and was part.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Of like a friend group when I first started.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
We would all hang out and she and laur if.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
You will get a chance, Brady knows we'll get a chance.
To hang out like in a social setting. I'm not
a I'm not a walk in the room. I got
to be the center of attention. I'm like sneaky, funny,
like you'll just yeah, he's a low key really like
quality over quantity.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Okay, witty, you're a witty comed comedic guy.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
Get I can, I can whatever whatever you want? You want,
witty you want, you know whatever, whatever.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
He's got a quick wit. He understands like what needs
to be said, what's appropriate to the only thing I
regret is at the Fox seminar and Petress talks about
this all the time, Dean. Everyone's kind of talking, but
like most people were kind of talking but looking to see, like,
all right, who else is here? Like losses do I
(44:03):
have to avoid like that? You know that whole thing
are like, oh I have to say hello to It's
like a lot of that going on too, So I
feel like I only get about I don't know, two
three four minutes of like really good content from Dean
before he has to move on and he has to
talk to other people, probably his new best friend Tom Brady.
Whoever else is there?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So exactly so he's too good for you now is
what you're trying to say.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah, as soon as Tom Joynt. It seems I was
the number one Brady until Tom joined.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Actually were you were?
Speaker 9 (44:33):
But now he passed? Yes, that's true.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
And we go back to a four hour radio show
on satellite radio where Dean would have to go through
a list of twelve different plays every single week. We'd
bring him on and he would have to decipher this
and it's usually the same thing, like the same I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Doing that again in about five hours.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Was in Juice too? Huh? She was like in some movies,
like she did a few things.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I remember from House Party.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
No, you don't do not Can I ask a serious
question about inficiating? I go back to officiating because I
don't get much of Dean's attention anymore. H Dean, I've
got a call game this week. There was a couple
of rough in the passers. Can you go through like
what needs to constitute a rough in the passer either
how they're landing on them or like low on them,
contact to the helmet, because there was one of the
(45:25):
in the Saints Panthers game on Bryce Young that I
was like, all right, like that seems like it was
a little bit incidental Is there even room for incidental
in that regard?
Speaker 4 (45:34):
And the Dallas Turner I thought actually was roughing the
pastor on Dallas Turner and people were outraged by that too.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Yes, the Dallas Turner won.
Speaker 9 (45:42):
That's more of what we're looking for. That's more.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Look you watch him leave his feet and kind of
stuff them.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Into the ground.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
That's the foule versus like Jack Campbell two weeks ago,
you know, against JJ McCarthy, where he just tackled him.
There is room for incidental contact. I mean, that's a
judgment call. It's not any contact in the headneck area.
It's got to be forcible contact. So if it's like
a glance, it's not a foul. But that's subjective and
(46:12):
the officials trying to make that decision in real time.
And then the only part replay can get involved in
is if there is contact, and if there is to
the headneck area, that replay can't pick it up. They
can't get involved in the severity.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Of the contact.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I have a quick one for you, because this has
always confused me. When the play clock goes to zero,
how come sometimes they'll blow it dead or a delay
a game, And sometimes they'll just let the play go
even though it's clearly at zero and they haven't snapped
the ball yet.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
I mean there was one last night where I thought
it was clearly that should have.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Been a foul.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
The clock was at zero and I think it was
a big play, third down or whatever it was. But
the mechanic is the back judge in the deep official
that bet officials like twenty five yards in watter of
scrimmage in the middle of the field, is responsible for
the play clock when the clock get now, they have
pre snap, they have pre snap responsibilities. They're looking at
(47:09):
the formation, reading the formation, looking where their key has
you know, they start with an eligible receiver where they
have to go, and then the play clock gets under ten,
they start to focus on that. Once the clock hits zero,
they look to see what the ball is doing. If
the ball has started to move, it's it's not a foul.
If the ball is still on the ground and the
snapper hasn't begun the snaps.
Speaker 9 (47:29):
It's it's delayed game.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
So there is a people talk about there's a delay.
It shouldn't be. It's we're talking about split second, not
not a long delay, And it could be something where
the official just doesn't doesn't focus or doesn't get their
eyes down where they need to be a lot of
times when they miss the delay game.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
And so that that's kind of how that works.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Uh, Dean always a good time. Fox Sports, NFL college
football rules analysts get them on x ad Dean Blandino.
We appreciate it, and uh, hey, I think you're funny cool.
Speaker 9 (47:59):
I appreciate I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
That's so passive.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
That is that's that's a guest suck up. Fine, that
is ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, up, I don't That is horrible.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Some people will call it a guest suck for sure,
but that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
You know what, Brady, that you are all in on
that one. That was really really on point accurate, Like this.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
Is you want to be in the locker room, Jones,
this is this is how it works.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Buddy, wait to jack up an interview. Jona's like, God, leave,
Bro said, here's the thing is, you're so funny to me, Dean, Like,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Wanted to disturb your sleep though, And by the way,
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