November 28, 2025 • 41 mins
To wrap up the last hour of the Post Thanksgiving Edition of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian and Jason preview some the of the big college football games heading into the weekend, how the Texas Longhorns are the KC equivalent in college football, Arch Manning’s injury concerns & do the Broncos have a low ceiling compared to the Patriots?
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Oh what is going on? Happy Black Friday to you?
Got Jason Martin, Brian though with you hanging out feeling
festive here Thanksgiving? Just in the rearview mirror. But we
are looking forward to Black Friday today, a lot of
really good college games. We'll preview the uh we got
three ranked versus ranked games today.
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Okay, so we'll start with college football over here, J Martin,
I know it's near and dear to your heart for
good reason here and you look at the ranked versus
ranked games today. I mean the big boy is Texas
A and M at Texas. That is a great, great
matchup night Cap seven thirty pm Eastern time, be on
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oh ABC. I just I wish Keith Jackson were on
the call for this one. You know, Texas A and
M eleven and zero. I'll stop the impression right there.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Whoa Nelly, Nelly?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And man A and M. What a season for them?
Where you beat Notre Dame, you're unscathed, you survive at
home against South Carolina. Marcel Reid was hideous in the
first half and unbelievable in the second half against South Carolina.
And they're able to come back from the dead where
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they're trailing thirty one to three I think at halftime,
and they're able to win that game. And if they're
able to beat Texas They're a twelve to zero team,
got a first round by you know, amazing season for them.
And this Texas defense has been weird.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We'd spend a lot of our time talking about Arch
Manning and the shortcomings of his or the offense. But
you look at this Texas defense and they've got NFL dudes,
They've got Sunday guys as you would say Je Martin,
and they've been bad lately. They're giving up thirty points
in each of their last four games. They're far too
talented to do something like that.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yeah, I mean they've been bad in most of the year. Actually,
Like if you look at what they were statistically a
season ago compared to kind of what they have become
since that, yeah, they are not what.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
You would expect.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I was looking at their pass defense and sec play.
I saw this stat a couple of weeks ago. Through
eight games in twenty twenty four, Texas pass defense was
given up a fifty seven point eight percent completion rate,
one hundred and fifty seven passing yards a game and
three touchdowns. That was total in those eight games. Twenty
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twenty five, in just five games, they had given up
a sixty eight percent completion rate three hundred and two
yards a game and ten touchdowns, So just a completely
different animal there. It's very easy to pick on Arch,
and certainly there are things to pick on there, but
it ain't all him, and even days where he has
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shown up, the defense hasn't necessarily been there for them.
I will say this, though, my eye is on this
game because I absolutely think.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
A and M better be careful here.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, because there is a lot of Sunday talent on
that Texas roster and there's a lot of pride there
and I know that this season has not been what
they think that is going to be. But I don't
think they'd have any problems spoiling Texas A and M
right here in an in state rivalry scenario and at
least trying.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
To impress people on the way out right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Absolutely, And that's the thing too with Arch.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's weird to me where you look at that Sark
offense and it's such a like careful offense. They throw
the ball short so often, you know what I mean,
They get the ball, They've done that for a while now.
They throw short, they get the ball in their playmakers' hands,
and they let them create their problems after the catch.
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But that's what's weird for Arch is I've been the
guy that says, hey, let's slow it down right here,
like we don't going to we aren't gonna have microwavable
results with our quarterbacks all the time. You know, I
know everybody wants Arch manning. I all this Heisman hype.
We want him to be a finished product right away,
and it's gonna take a little bit of time, like
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you got to have a little bit of patience. But
at the same time, the flip side to that is
it's not like he's running this incredibly sophisticated, like high
tech advanced offense. A lot of it is just throw
it short, get in the hands of the playmaker, let
him be a problem after the catch. And so that's
where when Arch is struggling at times this season. It's
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such a like quarterback friendly offense that Sark has. That's
where I kind of say, all right, I'm not gonna
be as loud backing Arch, right, it's gonna take some time, yes,
but I can't be too loud.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like back off, like give it some time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Like he's got talent, goodness settled down over here, because
he's running just a very basic offense and far too
many times he's not doing a good job of that.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, look, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I think that I think it became very trendy to
go after Arch because he was a very big target
and it didn't go particularly well out of the gate,
and so all of anybody that had any hate in
them for that scenario was going to find something there.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I
don't know that his ceiling is anywhere near as high
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as people thought. It was just based on the hype
because almost nobody had seen him play. We were just
told what he was supposed to be. But I think
your point is right in that there's a lot of
quarterbacks that could run that Texas offense and look pretty good.
But I think the most telling thing that we have
seen this year is the amount of times I have
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seen like Texas fans in comment sections and things like that,
they're just like Quinn Man, We're sorry like talking about
quinn Ewers. Okay, because last year it was all about
play Arch. If you want to win a championship, we
already know what quinn Ewers is. As if Steve Sarkisian
was just gonna not play Arch if it gave him
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the best chance to win, right, Like, we go back
and look at that, now, that was a dumb thing.
That was a preposterous thing for people to think at
the time. Very obviously Arch was not ready yet, and
we have seen that at least half the time this season.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I'm glad you made that point because we talked about
what we were wrong about yesterday. Let's just focus on
what we've been right about today, you know what I mean,
Like we both nailed that one because it was just like, guys,
you can't make it seem like it's so easy where
you just throw in Arch with hardly any experience and boom,
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you're champions. You know, like the idea of that happening
just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
If you look at how Arch is playing right now,
it shows you that wouldn't have happened last season and
that was everywhere, right.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
J Mart, you heard that all the time, just throwing Arch.
You're gonna improve.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Like, I get that you're not sold on Quinn, youwers
that's fine, but it's like it's the way that the
backup quarterback becomes the most popular guy on the team.
And we make it sound like he can just step
in and man, you're cooking with gas, you're cooking with grease.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
At that point, it's like, yeah, I don't think that
would have happened, man, And this season proves that you're
totally right about that.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, I just and then I look at it and say,
all right, let's say if Quinn.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Ewers have come back to school and he was the
quarterback in Texas this year, what would their record be?
I would be hard pressed to say that it would
be that much better, not because yours is not much
better than Arch, but because what you let off with
is the truth. If Texas's defense was going to be
this this year, then.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Everybody had them over hyped, right, Like, Yeah, that.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Team was going to be dependent upon its defense as
much as anything else, just like virtually anybody else in
this country. But they just haven't been up to the
task enough. They've been up to the task a couple
of times this year, and that's pretty much about it.
So I look at that and it's just maybe they'd
won one more game, But I don't think Arch was
out here losing them games. He's just not good enough
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right now or seasoned enough. In any way to win
them games by himself, Like he's got to have everybody
else around him. And that's just it's just kind of
been a failure to launch this year for Texas.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, it's hey, man, it happens, right. We see it
in the NFL too. There are teams with high expectations
and they drop a game or two or three, and
it just snowballs. Like the Chiefs are far more talented
than what their record is, you know, and these teams
just start pressing and they just get in their own
way even more. I think to some degree that's true
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with Texas. Texas is far too talented to lose some
of the games that they've lost, right and for Arch
to look at the way that he has at times.
I do also wonder with Arch, and this is something
that's always glossed over, is how healthy.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Has this guy been throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Now, I don't want to absolve all blame, because you
remember the first game of the year at Ohio State.
It's like his first throw, he was like the ball
was skipping across the turf, like he was skipping a
rock on the lake, you know what I mean. Like
he's not hurt then so it's not like injury has
been the biggest factor all season long. I don't want
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to make it sound like that, but you remember the
sound of a reporter asking about Arch being hurt and
Sark was like, Arch told you that, and he's like, no,
we just saw him wincing, like he's stepping on hot coals,
you know, like he's like ah, and Sark was like, well,
I don't see your faces when you're using the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, maybe there's nothing to all that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think Arch has been banged up throughout a good
portion of the season and that has impacted some of
his consistency.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And that's one thing that we often gloss over is
the possibility of, hey man, this guy might not be
completely healthy, and that has something to.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Do with it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know, it's like kid gloves one oh one. And
I don't mean to make it sound like, hey, back
off Arch. He's hurt, it's not his fault. He's amazing,
he can do no wrong. I'm not saying that. I'm
just saying it's one of the factors that I think
is often glossed over.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah, for sure, I mean, he needed help. He was
not going to be Superman, and he's proven that. Yeah,
there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
He's still a young guy now, he's sat for a
couple of years. But there's a reason why he said,
and I do think there's there's some accuracy concerns there.
He does sail some balls way more often than I
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want to see. I do not want to pile on him,
and I don't want to overpraise him either. I think
he's right now, he's not doing anything particularly stand out.
I want to give it a little bit more time,
just like I hope we would do for anybody in
this situation. The problem is, because of his last name,
some are immediately going to give him no benefit of
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the doubt, and some are going to give him every
benefit of the doubt. The Texas A and M team
has been great all year long. But if Arch goes
out there and stinks it up tonight, Arch is gonna
be the one that gets mauled. Like that's just kind
of the way that it goes for quarterbacks, but especially
if your last name is Manning. But there's I don't know,
there's this a nagging thing in me that tells me
Texas is gonna beat them tonight in that game. There's
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gonna be some kind of chaos this weekend. Right, It's
not just gonna be where Lane Kiffin decides he wants
to coach.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It's gonna be there. There's gonna be some shake up here.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't really see Georgia Tech giving Georgia much of
a fight today. I feel like the Georgia Tech thing
is kind of they've hit their wall and they've had
a really nice year, but I don't think they're ready
for this task. But I I think Texas is gonna
give Texas A and M a heck.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Of a fight.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, yeah, I'm with you on Georgia. It's weird because
Georgia is a team, like Herbie Smart said, we're hard
to kill, but it's a.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Team that they're hard.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It's hard for them to get off good starts and
just create separation and just cruise to wins, you know
what I mean. Like they're just not really built like that.
So it's an interesting matchup against Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's
defense is a smoldering mess. They are brutal man So
I think george Is just gonna run the ball down
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their throats, But uh, yeah, I just Georgia just gets
off to these weird starts and Haines King has been tremendous,
so hey, maybe Tech gives them a game. Maybe they
have a lead early on and the Dogs have to
fight back and have their fourth quarter magic.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Again.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I could see it maybe playing out like that. But
I just can't trust Georgia Tech whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That has been the team where the committee is like
two thumbs down, no thanks, don't buy them. Yeah, they've
dropped two of three and the committee is like, see,
we told you, we knew it was gonna come to this.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, now I'm with you. I think that. I mean,
I think they've been a fun story.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think Brent Prices done a great job there, and
Haines King has been fun and I think he'll probably
attempt to be fun in this game today. I hope
he's healthy at the end of it because they're gonna
have to rely a lot on him.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But yeah, the defense is.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Not not ready for prime time in any way, shape
or form.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So yeah, I don't I don't like their chances.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
And then in the early game again, I think the
question there is is that game played and finished before
we find out Lang Kivin's future, and then I also
would like to know whether or not the old Miss
players know what's happening and what their thought is, because
as much as this was supposed to just be about
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the game and we're going to remove distractions and talk
about this a day after and all this, it has
to be the only thing they're thinking about, right, like
it it's everything to them because they're having a historic
year and potentially it's all going to go up and
smoke with an interim coach and being dropped in the standings,
and like it's just it's so such a disaster class
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in terms of there's no way to win if you're
laying and you want to leave you Because I don't
think there's any part of him that doesn't love where
he is, but that doesn't mean that he that he's
not the basically the meme of with the girlfriend and
then looking over his shoulder at the other girl right
like he's he's just he wanted LSU four years ago,
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like he almost campaigned for he wanted it at that
point in time, and now it's sitting there open and
what they're seemingly going to offer him from a monetary
standpoint and all this, I don't know if he can
do it. But at the same time, I feel like
he knows he's going to break ole Miss's heart and
he doesn't want to do that either, But I don't
know what choice he's got.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, right, it's a it's a wild scenario. I just
think there's not much. There's not much more dropping for
Old Miss that they can do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
If they win much, he's totally artificial.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, if they win today against Mississius State, like they're
they're the number seven team and they're ten and one.
Everybody below them has at least two losses, Like, how
does Oklahoma with two losses leapfrog them? How does Notre
Dame with two losses leapfrog Ole Miss? They're a one
loss SEC team, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Like, are we really dropping them against teams that have
lost more games because Lane wouldn't be there to coach them.
I just think that goes too far. I'm really curious
to see if Ole Miss wins, which I think they will,
if Lane leaves, which I think he will, where they
end up ranked, right, and think about that, Jay Martin,
If they drop from seven to nine. You go from
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having a home game to being on the road. That's
a big deal for them.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And it's and that stinks too, because I mean that's
an environment they've earned.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
They've earned it.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Then the fans have earned a shot to watch that
game like that. But I mean that team has performed
in a way where they should be able to play
in front of their home fans. I almost think I
don't care if he leaves or not, they still should
have that opportunity because I mean, it's not their fault
that he makes a decision. If indeed that's the way
that this goes, and I look at it, it's just like, dude,
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Old Miss is better than Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
In my opinion, Oklahoma is a.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Team I really don't even want to see in a
college football playoff because their offense can be just flat out.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Bowling shoe ugly.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, their defense is pretty solid, but man, like that
offense is a struggle bus.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
On a regular basis.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I'm not really excited about the prospects of some thrilling,
you know, down to the wire great football game with
them in the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, interesting, there's more college stuff to talk about. I'll
tell you what we'll do. A college slash NFL hybrid
coming up next. Okay, I think there are there's an
example in each There are like these common statements being made,
and I think they're freaking crazy. All right, all compared notes,
We'll see if you think the same thing. He's Jason Martin.
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I think there are two things that are wa could
do crazy. One in college, one in the NFL. And
I'm curious if you feel the same way. So, on
the eve of Ohio State Michigan. Right, Ohio State has
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lost four straight meetings against Michigan. I saw a stat today.
It's amazing. It still blows my mind. So if you
think about the last four years Ohio State against Michigan,
oh to four, Ohio State against everybody else not named Michigan,
fifty eight and four. How crazy is that? But man,
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Michigan has had their number. I think it is crazy.
You still hear it today where some of these Ohio
State fans are like, if he can't beat Michigan, Ryan
Day should be gone right like or even crazier than
that is, there are some Ohio State fans that will
look you in the eye, be dead serious and be like, oh,
I'd rather beat Michigan than win a national championship. That
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is peak insanity to me. J Martin, do you feel
the same way about that?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I mean, I think that I can understand the sentiment
of just that rivalry beating so very very much. But no,
I mean, you're playing to win a championship. You shouldn't
be playing to beat your rival like that needs to
be your secondary goal. And I can understand it being
a very important goal, But what are we doing here?
Like you're playing to win a championship. As it relates
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to Ryan Day, I was on that train, not just
on the Michigan side, but just on that. I don't
know about him unless they unless they overcome this, and
then they did and they won the championship.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
So I'm not having that discussion anymore.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Like they lose to Michigan, it's just gonna be like, yeah,
it's just a big tom boogie man for Ryan Day.
But there's no reason to think even if they were
to somehow lose to Michigan that they still wouldn't win
the championship. So I mean, it's about their talent, it's
about the players that they've had, it's about the staff
and everything else. Do I think Ryan Day's the best
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coach in the country. No, not by any stretch of
the imagination. I don't think he's aggressive enough. I think
at times he can overthink. I would favor several guys
as a matter of fact over him, But he's in
a position where he can still win you a championship
year in and year out because of the way college
football is set up. So I'm not really hedging here.
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I'm just kind of I can understand why beating Michigan
means so much because they've lorded it over you. They're
fan base. There's like it's been X amount of days
since Ohio State's beating Michigan. You see it at all
various events and all sorts of stuff. They'll hold up signs,
even at I think at the political conventions last fall
they were holding up those signs and some of that stuff.
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So that's probably irritating, But look, they both won championships,
and ultimately, if you end up with a natty at
the end of it, I think you can probably look
back and say, ah, you know, wish we had beaten
Michigan on top of it. That would have been the
perfect season. But I mean, I'm still buying merch because
my team just won a title.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right, That's the thing I get it. I get that
it is a bitter, hated rivalry. I totally understand than
that you want to beat Michigan if you're Ohio State
and vice versa if you're Michigan, you want to beat
you know, you want to beat your rival, like, but
to not trade a national championship like you lose to Michigan,
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You're not going to trade that for a title. Really,
it's not a trade you're willing to make. It's like, now,
just give me the win against Michigan. That's freaking insane.
That makes zero sense.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And there are people that feel that way. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't think that begins to make any sense where Man,
I just I It's like.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Would then just say, Brian, But you just don't understand.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You're not not making a shred of sense right now?
You know that?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That to me is you're you're putting the battle over
the war, right and you're like, hey, we want the battle,
all right, you beat Michigan? Cool, great, did you win
the war? The war is winning a national championship. If
you win the war, I don't care that you lost battle.
I really don't, not to the point where it's more
important than winning it all. That's just I can't get
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down with that at all. And whatever you put that
in other rivalry terms, there are other bitter rivalries. It's
not just Ohio State Michigan. We got the Iron Bowl tomorrow,
like Auburn Alabama. You think that Auburn they'd rather have
a win against Bama than a national freaking championship. That's insanity.
I don't care how much you hate your rival.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
If you don't take a title over a win against
your rival, that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
No, I agree with that. I mean I think that,
like I said, the perfect season is to dominate your rival,
or to humiliate them, or to do something special and
then go and carry that to a national championship. But
of the two, if you don't want a title, I'm
not sure why you're watching.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Okay, there's another thing, maybe not as crazy as what
we laid out with these wa could do Ohio State fans,
at least the ones that they'd rather have a win
against Michigan over winning it all. I don't even get that.
But like we're starting to do it again. Last night,
you know, when we had Little John for twenty seconds
on NBC. We're watching the Bengals smack around the Ravens
(25:19):
pretty good, right one thirty two to fourteen as eight
point underdogs and you win by that much Like that,
That's that's pretty crazy right there. Joe Burrow's back and
it's like, hey, if they run the table, if they
if they it's like, guys, can we just stop that,
like shy Mart, even if they did, they have to
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win five more games and get help.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah and get it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But they have to win five more games just to
be nine and eight. Yeah, and what are the odds
of them winning five straight? With the games that they're
playing not good?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Can we sell that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Do? Their defense is brutal man like? So what do
they have left?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay? At Buffalo the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Again, they get the Dolphins, Cardinals, Cleveland, so it lightens up.
But at Buffalo against the Ravens, you lose one game,
it's over. You've got a losing record guaranteed. Let's stop
with this. Hey the Bengals, I mean, this was the
same scenario last year. They just had to get hot
and stop. They're not running the table, and even if
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they did somehow, I don't think nine to eight is
getting them in. Let's stop with the Hey the Bengals,
I mean they still have it. No, they have no chance.
Let's just yeah, I'm altogether.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
There would not have been a storyline about Joe Burrow
coming back if anybody thought they could make the playoffs
like him coming back with them still having a decent
chance to make the playoffs, like it would be an
absolute miracle for them to find their way in that again,
they'd have to run the table and a lot of
other teams would have to collapse around them. Like if
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Burrow could come back to a team that still had
a chance to make it, well, of course nobody's gonna
say you shouldn't come back. The whole reason that there
was a storyline is because everybody knows they're done and
so he's gonna come back anyway, So that makes it interesting.
That's why Melissa Stark's ass and them before the game
last night, you know how difficult or why are you
making this decision to come back and all this? It's
because it doesn't make sense from just a from a
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logistical perspective or a self preservation perspective, because it's a
lost season for the Bengals. They're not going anywhere, so yeah,
like this is this is this is perfect though, because
you're just trying to create more interest. You're trying to
create this if you are in the media, you're trying
to make it so that Bengals games are more enticing
(27:41):
to watch. But ultimately they already are because you've got
Burrow back playing quarterback. But the problem for Burrow is
and I said this yesterday. The problem when Burrow was
out wasn't that they couldn't score points, is they couldn't
stop anybody. And for whatever reason, they ran into a
Baltimore team that can't score points right now and can't
move football, and so they put themselves in a better
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position because of that. But they're gonna that defense is
gonna go out and lay two or three, I think
more eggs over the course of this rest of this season,
and they're gonna end up probably two games below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
No, I think you're right. I think they probably will.
But this idea of they're just gonna rattle off five straight.
They're gonna go into Buffalo, take them down, They're gonna
come back and beat the Ravens again, and they're just
gonna be ungathed and they'll be nine to eight, And
it's like, you realize how much help they would need
at nine and eight to somehow some way squeeze in,
(28:37):
like guys, come on, I just wish they would present
it a different way, like all right, you know, like
in Dumb and Dumber where Jim Carrey's like, so you're
telling me there's a chance It's like, that's kind of
what we're looking at with the Bengals here, but instead
they just they package it in a way where you're like,
this isn't even slightly believable right here? What are we
(28:58):
doing right now? Just wasting time? How about if we
look at we'll look at college football potential shakeups in
about ten minutes. But if you look at the NFL
and you look at the week thirteen slate, what is left?
We've got Black Friday today, fugazy Bears against the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Are you on the Eagle side.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
On that one? J? Mart, Yeah, I am.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I actually think it's very possible that the Eagles are
going to blow them out, not because I don't believe
it all in the Bears, but because the one thing
that we haven't talked about related to the Bears so
far this morning is that the defense is very spotty.
They have been very up and down during the course
of this year. And Philadelphia coming off the way that
(29:42):
they found a way to lose to Dallas on Sunday,
I just think they're coming in ticked off. They're playing
in front of their home fans, and they're gonna show out.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
How about if you look at the primetime games in
this week, they have We've got your Bengals against the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
We also have Bengals, thanks, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Sorry, your Broncos over the sorry about that, Your Broncos
against the Commands. And then we've got on Monday night
the Patriots hosting the Giants. So if you look at
the Broncos and you look at the Patriots, they're one
two in the AFC standings right now, Patriots number one,
Broncos number two. If you had to back a team
(30:21):
today to have a deeper playoff run, are you backing
the Patriots with the one seed right now, mind you?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Or are you backing the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Who do you think is beer funny? I mean, you know,
I'm a die hard Broncos fan, but I'm taking New England.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And maybe one of the reasons why is because, well
two reasons. One, I just don't buy this offense right now,
and I'm not sure Sean Payton has a lot of
confidence in it either based on his play calling and
the way that it changes into desperation mode and then
you see the best of bo Nicks later in these games.
(30:59):
I don't know why we're not in that earlier for Denver.
On the flip side, Drake may is playing excellent football.
Everybody seems to be complimenting him. Well, you're seeing Trevion
Henderson rounding in and becoming a good part of that offense.
But for me, I covered Mike Rabel's entire tenure in
Nashville where I do the show fro him. Yeah, I
watched it and that day cover that team day after day.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
This is exactly what happened here.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
They didn't have the best roster, but he got the
most out of a lot of guys. He practices them
very hard, so keep an eye on that. That can
lead to some extra injuries and things like that. But
this is a dude that seems to overperform early, especially
like before you would think they're ready. They end up
in a spot now as Mike Rabel reached to Super Bowl, No,
(31:47):
has he reached a conference title game. Yes, I just
kind of look at it, and I feel better about
the Patriots because they seem what they do seems less
gimmicky to me. It seems like what I'm say seeing
from them looks like the regular course of football. What's
happening in Denver looks more like a Disney movie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Interesting, Yeah, with Denver.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
My thought on them is they're a team with a
high floor and a low ceiling.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, So the way I look at the Broncos, their
formula is gonna lead to a lot of wins in
the regular season.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What do they do.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They play great defense, they have a great offensive line,
they hardly give up any sacks, and they protect the
football pretty well. With that formula, you're gonna be in
the mix to win a lot of games. And that's
what they've done. They're nine to two, But I think
they have a low ceiling because come playoff time, you're
not gonna be able to just suffocate defense other offenses
(32:44):
with your great defense, Right it's the offenses are too good,
where even though the Broncos play great defense, they're not
gonna be able to lean on these offenses the same
way as they're leaning on the Jets in an international
game and win thirteen to eleven, you know what I mean, Like,
that's not happening in the playoffs. They can't lean on
the Raiders and win ten to seven in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And so that's where I think their formula it's gonna
get stretched in the playoffs, and I think that's where
they have a very high floor. You're gonna be in
the mix to win a lot of games with that formula.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
But when your.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Offense is limited the way that it is when bon Nicks,
I have to get the number for you. But when
bon Knicks, I mean he's had some good fourth quarters
and he's done some good things when it matters most,
So you have to keep that in mind. But when
you look at him overall, and he's what, he's twenty
sixth in passer rating. His passer rating is eighty six
(33:44):
point one in today's NFL. If you're in the eighties,
that is freaking brutal. By the way, just give you context.
Marcus Mariota is four points higher. Mariota's got a passer
rating in the nineties. So bow knicks, bet, I just
think he's way too inconsistent.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, he can do some good things in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, he can extend plays, move out of the pocket,
do some things with his legs. I don't want to
make him sound like he's horrible all the time, but
he's just not upper echelon at all. And you've got
to have that to escape a lot of these games
that you're going to be in and when the other
team is scoring points, you got to match points. I
(34:23):
just don't love the Broncos chances, so I think they
have a low ceiling come playoff time.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Again, I like I favor the Patriots again because it
looks real to me. It feels if I had to
try and come with an analogy for it, I would
say that the Patriots are kind of like a three
D printer. I think they can keep printing this out.
I think they can keep doing this on a week
to week basis, Whereas it seems like one of a
kind of artwork coming from Denver, like you're just not
(34:51):
going to be able to pop that in and it
come out looking that way, Like you can't continue to
live this close to the edge right when it comes
to these fourth quarters and these comeback in these near
turnovers or just not even just slow starts, but bad
starts offensively and then asking your defense to pull you
out of those holes, Like eventually you're gonna fall behind
a team that's up by three touchdowns and it's not
(35:12):
gonna be the Giants, and you're not gonna be able
to make that comeback. So that's that's what it is
to me.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's just I.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Feel like it's just a little bit too cute in
Denver for me to fully get behind it. I hope
I'm wrong, man, we're Bronco fan. I hope they're able
to carry it all the way. But I just don't
feel I can't. I can't feel comfortable about it.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I would just ask for everybody out there, like a
little public service not announcement request. What would it be
a ps R instead of a PSA. I got a
public service request? Can we not do the thing we
always do? Where the Broncos are a great version of
this where it's like or example of this where you say, man,
they're nine to two. They had that one point loss
(35:54):
against the Colts, remember the weird penalty on the field goal,
and they lost by three points against the Charge. They
could be undefeated, they could be eleven, and oh yeah,
it's like, are we really playing that game?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You gotta look at the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter alone
against the Giants.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
That was a miracle win.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Like the Texans game, the Raiders the.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Jets, Like, there's so many games where they could have
gotten tripped up, so let's just not do the thing
where they could be eleven and oh yeah, they could
be a five lost team easily right now.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You know, so it works both ways, That's all I'm
telling you.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
All right.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
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All right?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
If we look at.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
The crystal ball over here, it's amazing. If you look
at the college football playoff rankings, you're trying to project
who's gonna be in, who's gonna be out. We literally
have one more game left for all these teams, and
it's still a puzzle where you're like, if this team
loses this game, it's gonna throw that out of whack
(38:18):
and this and it's still not a clear cut picture
at this stage. Do you see any major curve balls?
Do you see a major upset, a major shake up anywhere?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Uh? Man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I think that Pittsburgh Miami having to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Keep an eye on that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Carson Beck has picked some bad times to play some
bad games, but then playing in pretty cold weather that
that is something to watch. And I'm just not so
sure about Miami. I think that's probably the one my
eye is on the most. And then again, and I
said this earlier, I definitely think Texas A and M
better be real careful tonight against Texas. Obviously they're gonna
make the They're gonna make the College Football Playoff their way.
(39:01):
But Texas is one of those teams that's trying to
make some kind of a case for themselves and maybe
get a little help above them. And in some cases
they're going to but A and M better watch out,
like their undefeated season is very much in jeopardy in
my opinion, just because I think Texas is going to
play really hard tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, fair enough. You know, I got my eye on
the Ducks. I'm not convinced that Ducks are going to
Washington and just Waltzon through them. You know, that's a
tough defense. I think the real test is Washington's offense,
because against the lesser defenses, man, they carve them up.
But against better defenses, and Oregon has a good defense,
(39:41):
Washington has been held in check. So I'm curious what
Washington's gonna be able to do offensively. But that's a
tough place to play. Oregon is still all banged up offensively,
So that's one I've got my eye on is can
the Huskies?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Can they they pull a shocker over here? Exce if
they do.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Washington's coaches also in the in the running for the
Florida job.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yeah, it's like the lead.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I think he's lead in terms of Vegas now because
I think Florida is sort of the lane train. Seems
like it's either staying home or it's going to LSU.
I think those are probably I think it's more likely
he stays in Old miss now then he goes to Florida.
But I don't know if that has any lingering effect.
But I still think Oregon is awfully good. But that
is a that's a weird game, man, Like that Oregon
(40:24):
Washington game can be a really weird one.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I have a hard time seeing Oregon. They're gonna get
in right. If they lose their number six, they'd be
ten and.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Two two lost team.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, someone's gonna get squeezed though, you know what I mean, Like,
if you look at this look at this scenario. That's
why I don't agree that Notre Dame is a lock yet,
Like the nightmare scenario for the Irish is if BYU
beats Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship game, both
are getting in. If Bama somehow wins the SEC title game,
someone's getting squeezed, you know.
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Okay, so we'll start with college football over here, J Martin,
I know it's near and dear to your heart for
good reason here and you look at the ranked versus
ranked games today. I mean the big boy is Texas
A and M at Texas. That is a great, great
matchup night Cap seven thirty pm Eastern time, be on
(01:48):
oh ABC. I just I wish Keith Jackson were on
the call for this one. You know, Texas A and
M eleven and zero. I'll stop the impression right there.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Whoa Nelly, Nelly?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And man A and M. What a season for them?
Where you beat Notre Dame, you're unscathed, you survive at
home against South Carolina. Marcel Reid was hideous in the
first half and unbelievable in the second half against South Carolina.
And they're able to come back from the dead where
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they're trailing thirty one to three I think at halftime,
and they're able to win that game. And if they're
able to beat Texas They're a twelve to zero team,
got a first round by you know, amazing season for them.
And this Texas defense has been weird.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We'd spend a lot of our time talking about Arch
Manning and the shortcomings of his or the offense. But
you look at this Texas defense and they've got NFL dudes,
They've got Sunday guys as you would say Je Martin,
and they've been bad lately. They're giving up thirty points
in each of their last four games. They're far too
talented to do something like that.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yeah, I mean they've been bad in most of the year. Actually,
Like if you look at what they were statistically a
season ago compared to kind of what they have become
since that, yeah, they are not what.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
You would expect.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I was looking at their pass defense and sec play.
I saw this stat a couple of weeks ago. Through
eight games in twenty twenty four, Texas pass defense was
given up a fifty seven point eight percent completion rate,
one hundred and fifty seven passing yards a game and
three touchdowns. That was total in those eight games. Twenty
(03:32):
twenty five, in just five games, they had given up
a sixty eight percent completion rate three hundred and two
yards a game and ten touchdowns, So just a completely
different animal there. It's very easy to pick on Arch,
and certainly there are things to pick on there, but
it ain't all him, and even days where he has
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shown up, the defense hasn't necessarily been there for them.
I will say this, though, my eye is on this
game because I absolutely think.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
A and M better be careful here.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, because there is a lot of Sunday talent on
that Texas roster and there's a lot of pride there
and I know that this season has not been what
they think that is going to be. But I don't
think they'd have any problems spoiling Texas A and M
right here in an in state rivalry scenario and at
least trying.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
To impress people on the way out right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Absolutely, And that's the thing too with Arch.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's weird to me where you look at that Sark
offense and it's such a like careful offense. They throw
the ball short so often, you know what I mean,
They get the ball, They've done that for a while now.
They throw short, they get the ball in their playmakers' hands,
and they let them create their problems after the catch.
(04:49):
But that's what's weird for Arch is I've been the
guy that says, hey, let's slow it down right here,
like we don't going to we aren't gonna have microwavable
results with our quarterbacks all the time. You know, I
know everybody wants Arch manning. I all this Heisman hype.
We want him to be a finished product right away,
and it's gonna take a little bit of time, like
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you got to have a little bit of patience. But
at the same time, the flip side to that is
it's not like he's running this incredibly sophisticated, like high
tech advanced offense. A lot of it is just throw
it short, get in the hands of the playmaker, let
him be a problem after the catch. And so that's
where when Arch is struggling at times this season. It's
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such a like quarterback friendly offense that Sark has. That's
where I kind of say, all right, I'm not gonna
be as loud backing Arch, right, it's gonna take some time, yes,
but I can't be too loud.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like back off, like give it some time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Like he's got talent, goodness settled down over here, because
he's running just a very basic offense and far too
many times he's not doing a good job of that.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, look, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I think that I think it became very trendy to
go after Arch because he was a very big target
and it didn't go particularly well out of the gate,
and so all of anybody that had any hate in
them for that scenario was going to find something there.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I
don't know that his ceiling is anywhere near as high
(06:21):
as people thought. It was just based on the hype
because almost nobody had seen him play. We were just
told what he was supposed to be. But I think
your point is right in that there's a lot of
quarterbacks that could run that Texas offense and look pretty good.
But I think the most telling thing that we have
seen this year is the amount of times I have
(06:42):
seen like Texas fans in comment sections and things like that,
they're just like Quinn Man, We're sorry like talking about
quinn Ewers. Okay, because last year it was all about
play Arch. If you want to win a championship, we
already know what quinn Ewers is. As if Steve Sarkisian
was just gonna not play Arch if it gave him
(07:03):
the best chance to win, right, Like, we go back
and look at that, now, that was a dumb thing.
That was a preposterous thing for people to think at
the time. Very obviously Arch was not ready yet, and
we have seen that at least half the time this season.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I'm glad you made that point because we talked about
what we were wrong about yesterday. Let's just focus on
what we've been right about today, you know what I mean,
Like we both nailed that one because it was just like, guys,
you can't make it seem like it's so easy where
you just throw in Arch with hardly any experience and boom,
(07:42):
you're champions. You know, like the idea of that happening
just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
If you look at how Arch is playing right now,
it shows you that wouldn't have happened last season and
that was everywhere, right.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
J Mart, you heard that all the time, just throwing Arch.
You're gonna improve.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Like, I get that you're not sold on Quinn, youwers
that's fine, but it's like it's the way that the
backup quarterback becomes the most popular guy on the team.
And we make it sound like he can just step
in and man, you're cooking with gas, you're cooking with grease.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
At that point, it's like, yeah, I don't think that
would have happened, man, And this season proves that you're
totally right about that.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, I just and then I look at it and say,
all right, let's say if Quinn.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Ewers have come back to school and he was the
quarterback in Texas this year, what would their record be?
I would be hard pressed to say that it would
be that much better, not because yours is not much
better than Arch, but because what you let off with
is the truth. If Texas's defense was going to be
this this year, then.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Everybody had them over hyped, right, Like, Yeah, that.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Team was going to be dependent upon its defense as
much as anything else, just like virtually anybody else in
this country. But they just haven't been up to the
task enough. They've been up to the task a couple
of times this year, and that's pretty much about it.
So I look at that and it's just maybe they'd
won one more game, But I don't think Arch was
out here losing them games. He's just not good enough
(09:08):
right now or seasoned enough. In any way to win
them games by himself, Like he's got to have everybody
else around him. And that's just it's just kind of
been a failure to launch this year for Texas.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, it's hey, man, it happens, right. We see it
in the NFL too. There are teams with high expectations
and they drop a game or two or three, and
it just snowballs. Like the Chiefs are far more talented
than what their record is, you know, and these teams
just start pressing and they just get in their own
way even more. I think to some degree that's true
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with Texas. Texas is far too talented to lose some
of the games that they've lost, right and for Arch
to look at the way that he has at times.
I do also wonder with Arch, and this is something
that's always glossed over, is how healthy.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Has this guy been throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Now, I don't want to absolve all blame, because you
remember the first game of the year at Ohio State.
It's like his first throw, he was like the ball
was skipping across the turf, like he was skipping a
rock on the lake, you know what I mean. Like
he's not hurt then so it's not like injury has
been the biggest factor all season long. I don't want
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to make it sound like that, but you remember the
sound of a reporter asking about Arch being hurt and
Sark was like, Arch told you that, and he's like, no,
we just saw him wincing, like he's stepping on hot coals,
you know, like he's like ah, and Sark was like, well,
I don't see your faces when you're using the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, maybe there's nothing to all that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think Arch has been banged up throughout a good
portion of the season and that has impacted some of
his consistency.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And that's one thing that we often gloss over is
the possibility of, hey man, this guy might not be
completely healthy, and that has something to.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Do with it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know, it's like kid gloves one oh one. And
I don't mean to make it sound like, hey, back
off Arch. He's hurt, it's not his fault. He's amazing,
he can do no wrong. I'm not saying that. I'm
just saying it's one of the factors that I think
is often glossed over.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah, for sure, I mean, he needed help. He was
not going to be Superman, and he's proven that. Yeah,
there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
He's still a young guy now, he's sat for a
couple of years. But there's a reason why he said,
and I do think there's there's some accuracy concerns there.
He does sail some balls way more often than I
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want to see. I do not want to pile on him,
and I don't want to overpraise him either. I think
he's right now, he's not doing anything particularly stand out.
I want to give it a little bit more time,
just like I hope we would do for anybody in
this situation. The problem is, because of his last name,
some are immediately going to give him no benefit of
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the doubt, and some are going to give him every
benefit of the doubt. The Texas A and M team
has been great all year long. But if Arch goes
out there and stinks it up tonight, Arch is gonna
be the one that gets mauled. Like that's just kind
of the way that it goes for quarterbacks, but especially
if your last name is Manning. But there's I don't know,
there's this a nagging thing in me that tells me
Texas is gonna beat them tonight in that game. There's
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gonna be some kind of chaos this weekend. Right, It's
not just gonna be where Lane Kiffin decides he wants
to coach.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It's gonna be there. There's gonna be some shake up here.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't really see Georgia Tech giving Georgia much of
a fight today. I feel like the Georgia Tech thing
is kind of they've hit their wall and they've had
a really nice year, but I don't think they're ready
for this task. But I I think Texas is gonna
give Texas A and M a heck.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Of a fight.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, yeah, I'm with you on Georgia. It's weird because
Georgia is a team, like Herbie Smart said, we're hard
to kill, but it's a.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Team that they're hard.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It's hard for them to get off good starts and
just create separation and just cruise to wins, you know
what I mean. Like they're just not really built like that.
So it's an interesting matchup against Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's
defense is a smoldering mess. They are brutal man So
I think george Is just gonna run the ball down
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their throats, But uh, yeah, I just Georgia just gets
off to these weird starts and Haines King has been tremendous,
so hey, maybe Tech gives them a game. Maybe they
have a lead early on and the Dogs have to
fight back and have their fourth quarter magic.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Again.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I could see it maybe playing out like that. But
I just can't trust Georgia Tech whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That has been the team where the committee is like
two thumbs down, no thanks, don't buy them. Yeah, they've
dropped two of three and the committee is like, see,
we told you, we knew it was gonna come to this.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, now I'm with you. I think that. I mean,
I think they've been a fun story.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think Brent Prices done a great job there, and
Haines King has been fun and I think he'll probably
attempt to be fun in this game today. I hope
he's healthy at the end of it because they're gonna
have to rely a lot on him.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But yeah, the defense is.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Not not ready for prime time in any way, shape
or form.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So yeah, I don't I don't like their chances.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
And then in the early game again, I think the
question there is is that game played and finished before
we find out Lang Kivin's future, and then I also
would like to know whether or not the old Miss
players know what's happening and what their thought is, because
as much as this was supposed to just be about
(14:40):
the game and we're going to remove distractions and talk
about this a day after and all this, it has
to be the only thing they're thinking about, right, like
it it's everything to them because they're having a historic
year and potentially it's all going to go up and
smoke with an interim coach and being dropped in the standings,
and like it's just it's so such a disaster class
(15:02):
in terms of there's no way to win if you're
laying and you want to leave you Because I don't
think there's any part of him that doesn't love where
he is, but that doesn't mean that he that he's
not the basically the meme of with the girlfriend and
then looking over his shoulder at the other girl right
like he's he's just he wanted LSU four years ago,
(15:24):
like he almost campaigned for he wanted it at that
point in time, and now it's sitting there open and
what they're seemingly going to offer him from a monetary
standpoint and all this, I don't know if he can
do it. But at the same time, I feel like
he knows he's going to break ole Miss's heart and
he doesn't want to do that either, But I don't
know what choice he's got.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, right, it's a it's a wild scenario. I just
think there's not much. There's not much more dropping for
Old Miss that they can do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
If they win much, he's totally artificial.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, if they win today against Mississius State, like they're
they're the number seven team and they're ten and one.
Everybody below them has at least two losses, Like, how
does Oklahoma with two losses leapfrog them? How does Notre
Dame with two losses leapfrog Ole Miss? They're a one
loss SEC team, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Like, are we really dropping them against teams that have
lost more games because Lane wouldn't be there to coach them.
I just think that goes too far. I'm really curious
to see if Ole Miss wins, which I think they will,
if Lane leaves, which I think he will, where they
end up ranked, right, and think about that, Jay Martin,
If they drop from seven to nine. You go from
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having a home game to being on the road. That's
a big deal for them.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And it's and that stinks too, because I mean that's
an environment they've earned.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
They've earned it.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Then the fans have earned a shot to watch that
game like that. But I mean that team has performed
in a way where they should be able to play
in front of their home fans. I almost think I
don't care if he leaves or not, they still should
have that opportunity because I mean, it's not their fault
that he makes a decision. If indeed that's the way
that this goes, and I look at it, it's just like, dude,
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Old Miss is better than Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
In my opinion, Oklahoma is a.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Team I really don't even want to see in a
college football playoff because their offense can be just flat out.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Bowling shoe ugly.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, their defense is pretty solid, but man, like that
offense is a struggle bus.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
On a regular basis.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I'm not really excited about the prospects of some thrilling,
you know, down to the wire great football game with
them in the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, interesting, there's more college stuff to talk about. I'll
tell you what we'll do. A college slash NFL hybrid
coming up next. Okay, I think there are there's an
example in each There are like these common statements being made,
and I think they're freaking crazy. All right, all compared notes,
We'll see if you think the same thing. He's Jason Martin.
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I think there are two things that are wa could
do crazy. One in college, one in the NFL. And
I'm curious if you feel the same way. So, on
the eve of Ohio State Michigan. Right, Ohio State has
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lost four straight meetings against Michigan. I saw a stat today.
It's amazing. It still blows my mind. So if you
think about the last four years Ohio State against Michigan,
oh to four, Ohio State against everybody else not named Michigan,
fifty eight and four. How crazy is that? But man,
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Michigan has had their number. I think it is crazy.
You still hear it today where some of these Ohio
State fans are like, if he can't beat Michigan, Ryan
Day should be gone right like or even crazier than
that is, there are some Ohio State fans that will
look you in the eye, be dead serious and be like, oh,
I'd rather beat Michigan than win a national championship. That
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is peak insanity to me. J Martin, do you feel
the same way about that?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I mean, I think that I can understand the sentiment
of just that rivalry beating so very very much. But no,
I mean, you're playing to win a championship. You shouldn't
be playing to beat your rival like that needs to
be your secondary goal. And I can understand it being
a very important goal, But what are we doing here?
Like you're playing to win a championship. As it relates
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to Ryan Day, I was on that train, not just
on the Michigan side, but just on that. I don't
know about him unless they unless they overcome this, and
then they did and they won the championship.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
So I'm not having that discussion anymore.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Like they lose to Michigan, it's just gonna be like, yeah,
it's just a big tom boogie man for Ryan Day.
But there's no reason to think even if they were
to somehow lose to Michigan that they still wouldn't win
the championship. So I mean, it's about their talent, it's
about the players that they've had, it's about the staff
and everything else. Do I think Ryan Day's the best
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coach in the country. No, not by any stretch of
the imagination. I don't think he's aggressive enough. I think
at times he can overthink. I would favor several guys
as a matter of fact over him, But he's in
a position where he can still win you a championship
year in and year out because of the way college
football is set up. So I'm not really hedging here.
(22:12):
I'm just kind of I can understand why beating Michigan
means so much because they've lorded it over you. They're
fan base. There's like it's been X amount of days
since Ohio State's beating Michigan. You see it at all
various events and all sorts of stuff. They'll hold up signs,
even at I think at the political conventions last fall
they were holding up those signs and some of that stuff.
(22:34):
So that's probably irritating, But look, they both won championships,
and ultimately, if you end up with a natty at
the end of it, I think you can probably look
back and say, ah, you know, wish we had beaten
Michigan on top of it. That would have been the
perfect season. But I mean, I'm still buying merch because
my team just won a title.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right, That's the thing I get it. I get that
it is a bitter, hated rivalry. I totally understand than
that you want to beat Michigan if you're Ohio State
and vice versa if you're Michigan, you want to beat
you know, you want to beat your rival, like, but
to not trade a national championship like you lose to Michigan,
(23:15):
You're not going to trade that for a title. Really,
it's not a trade you're willing to make. It's like, now,
just give me the win against Michigan. That's freaking insane.
That makes zero sense.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And there are people that feel that way. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't think that begins to make any sense where Man,
I just I It's like.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Would then just say, Brian, But you just don't understand.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You're not not making a shred of sense right now?
You know that?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That to me is you're you're putting the battle over
the war, right and you're like, hey, we want the battle,
all right, you beat Michigan? Cool, great, did you win
the war? The war is winning a national championship. If
you win the war, I don't care that you lost battle.
I really don't, not to the point where it's more
important than winning it all. That's just I can't get
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down with that at all. And whatever you put that
in other rivalry terms, there are other bitter rivalries. It's
not just Ohio State Michigan. We got the Iron Bowl tomorrow,
like Auburn Alabama. You think that Auburn they'd rather have
a win against Bama than a national freaking championship. That's insanity.
I don't care how much you hate your rival.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
If you don't take a title over a win against
your rival, that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
No, I agree with that. I mean I think that,
like I said, the perfect season is to dominate your rival,
or to humiliate them, or to do something special and
then go and carry that to a national championship. But
of the two, if you don't want a title, I'm
not sure why you're watching.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Okay, there's another thing, maybe not as crazy as what
we laid out with these wa could do Ohio State fans,
at least the ones that they'd rather have a win
against Michigan over winning it all. I don't even get that.
But like we're starting to do it again. Last night,
you know, when we had Little John for twenty seconds
on NBC. We're watching the Bengals smack around the Ravens
(25:19):
pretty good, right one thirty two to fourteen as eight
point underdogs and you win by that much Like that,
That's that's pretty crazy right there. Joe Burrow's back and
it's like, hey, if they run the table, if they
if they it's like, guys, can we just stop that,
like shy Mart, even if they did, they have to
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win five more games and get help.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah and get it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But they have to win five more games just to
be nine and eight. Yeah, and what are the odds
of them winning five straight? With the games that they're
playing not good?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Can we sell that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Do? Their defense is brutal man like? So what do
they have left?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay? At Buffalo the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Again, they get the Dolphins, Cardinals, Cleveland, so it lightens up.
But at Buffalo against the Ravens, you lose one game,
it's over. You've got a losing record guaranteed. Let's stop
with this. Hey the Bengals, I mean, this was the
same scenario last year. They just had to get hot
and stop. They're not running the table, and even if
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they did somehow, I don't think nine to eight is
getting them in. Let's stop with the Hey the Bengals,
I mean they still have it. No, they have no chance.
Let's just yeah, I'm altogether.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
There would not have been a storyline about Joe Burrow
coming back if anybody thought they could make the playoffs
like him coming back with them still having a decent
chance to make the playoffs, like it would be an
absolute miracle for them to find their way in that again,
they'd have to run the table and a lot of
other teams would have to collapse around them. Like if
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Burrow could come back to a team that still had
a chance to make it, well, of course nobody's gonna
say you shouldn't come back. The whole reason that there
was a storyline is because everybody knows they're done and
so he's gonna come back anyway, So that makes it interesting.
That's why Melissa Stark's ass and them before the game
last night, you know how difficult or why are you
making this decision to come back and all this? It's
because it doesn't make sense from just a from a
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logistical perspective or a self preservation perspective, because it's a
lost season for the Bengals. They're not going anywhere, so yeah,
like this is this is this is perfect though, because
you're just trying to create more interest. You're trying to
create this if you are in the media, you're trying
to make it so that Bengals games are more enticing
(27:41):
to watch. But ultimately they already are because you've got
Burrow back playing quarterback. But the problem for Burrow is
and I said this yesterday. The problem when Burrow was
out wasn't that they couldn't score points, is they couldn't
stop anybody. And for whatever reason, they ran into a
Baltimore team that can't score points right now and can't
move football, and so they put themselves in a better
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position because of that. But they're gonna that defense is
gonna go out and lay two or three, I think
more eggs over the course of this rest of this season,
and they're gonna end up probably two games below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
No, I think you're right. I think they probably will.
But this idea of they're just gonna rattle off five straight.
They're gonna go into Buffalo, take them down, They're gonna
come back and beat the Ravens again, and they're just
gonna be ungathed and they'll be nine to eight, And
it's like, you realize how much help they would need
at nine and eight to somehow some way squeeze in,
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like guys, come on, I just wish they would present
it a different way, like all right, you know, like
in Dumb and Dumber where Jim Carrey's like, so you're
telling me there's a chance It's like, that's kind of
what we're looking at with the Bengals here, but instead
they just they package it in a way where you're like,
this isn't even slightly believable right here? What are we
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doing right now? Just wasting time? How about if we
look at we'll look at college football potential shakeups in
about ten minutes. But if you look at the NFL
and you look at the week thirteen slate, what is left?
We've got Black Friday today, fugazy Bears against the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Are you on the Eagle side.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
On that one? J? Mart, Yeah, I am.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I actually think it's very possible that the Eagles are
going to blow them out, not because I don't believe
it all in the Bears, but because the one thing
that we haven't talked about related to the Bears so
far this morning is that the defense is very spotty.
They have been very up and down during the course
of this year. And Philadelphia coming off the way that
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they found a way to lose to Dallas on Sunday,
I just think they're coming in ticked off. They're playing
in front of their home fans, and they're gonna show out.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
How about if you look at the primetime games in
this week, they have We've got your Bengals against the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
We also have Bengals, thanks, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Sorry, your Broncos over the sorry about that, Your Broncos
against the Commands. And then we've got on Monday night
the Patriots hosting the Giants. So if you look at
the Broncos and you look at the Patriots, they're one
two in the AFC standings right now, Patriots number one,
Broncos number two. If you had to back a team
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today to have a deeper playoff run, are you backing
the Patriots with the one seed right now, mind you?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Or are you backing the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Who do you think is beer funny? I mean, you know,
I'm a die hard Broncos fan, but I'm taking New England.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And maybe one of the reasons why is because, well
two reasons. One, I just don't buy this offense right now,
and I'm not sure Sean Payton has a lot of
confidence in it either based on his play calling and
the way that it changes into desperation mode and then
you see the best of bo Nicks later in these games.
(30:59):
I don't know why we're not in that earlier for Denver.
On the flip side, Drake may is playing excellent football.
Everybody seems to be complimenting him. Well, you're seeing Trevion
Henderson rounding in and becoming a good part of that offense.
But for me, I covered Mike Rabel's entire tenure in
Nashville where I do the show fro him. Yeah, I
watched it and that day cover that team day after day.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
This is exactly what happened here.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
They didn't have the best roster, but he got the
most out of a lot of guys. He practices them
very hard, so keep an eye on that. That can
lead to some extra injuries and things like that. But
this is a dude that seems to overperform early, especially
like before you would think they're ready. They end up
in a spot now as Mike Rabel reached to Super Bowl, No,
(31:47):
has he reached a conference title game. Yes, I just
kind of look at it, and I feel better about
the Patriots because they seem what they do seems less
gimmicky to me. It seems like what I'm say seeing
from them looks like the regular course of football. What's
happening in Denver looks more like a Disney movie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Interesting, Yeah, with Denver.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
My thought on them is they're a team with a
high floor and a low ceiling.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, So the way I look at the Broncos, their
formula is gonna lead to a lot of wins in
the regular season.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What do they do.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They play great defense, they have a great offensive line,
they hardly give up any sacks, and they protect the
football pretty well. With that formula, you're gonna be in
the mix to win a lot of games. And that's
what they've done. They're nine to two, But I think
they have a low ceiling because come playoff time, you're
not gonna be able to just suffocate defense other offenses
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with your great defense, Right it's the offenses are too good,
where even though the Broncos play great defense, they're not
gonna be able to lean on these offenses the same
way as they're leaning on the Jets in an international
game and win thirteen to eleven, you know what I mean, Like,
that's not happening in the playoffs. They can't lean on
the Raiders and win ten to seven in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And so that's where I think their formula it's gonna
get stretched in the playoffs, and I think that's where
they have a very high floor. You're gonna be in
the mix to win a lot of games with that formula.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
But when your.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Offense is limited the way that it is when bon Nicks,
I have to get the number for you. But when
bon Knicks, I mean he's had some good fourth quarters
and he's done some good things when it matters most,
So you have to keep that in mind. But when
you look at him overall, and he's what, he's twenty
sixth in passer rating. His passer rating is eighty six
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point one in today's NFL. If you're in the eighties,
that is freaking brutal. By the way, just give you context.
Marcus Mariota is four points higher. Mariota's got a passer
rating in the nineties. So bow knicks, bet, I just
think he's way too inconsistent.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, he can do some good things in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, he can extend plays, move out of the pocket,
do some things with his legs. I don't want to
make him sound like he's horrible all the time, but
he's just not upper echelon at all. And you've got
to have that to escape a lot of these games
that you're going to be in and when the other
team is scoring points, you got to match points. I
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just don't love the Broncos chances, so I think they
have a low ceiling come playoff time.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Again, I like I favor the Patriots again because it
looks real to me. It feels if I had to
try and come with an analogy for it, I would
say that the Patriots are kind of like a three
D printer. I think they can keep printing this out.
I think they can keep doing this on a week
to week basis, Whereas it seems like one of a
kind of artwork coming from Denver, like you're just not
(34:51):
going to be able to pop that in and it
come out looking that way, Like you can't continue to
live this close to the edge right when it comes
to these fourth quarters and these comeback in these near
turnovers or just not even just slow starts, but bad
starts offensively and then asking your defense to pull you
out of those holes, Like eventually you're gonna fall behind
a team that's up by three touchdowns and it's not
(35:12):
gonna be the Giants, and you're not gonna be able
to make that comeback. So that's that's what it is
to me.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's just I.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Feel like it's just a little bit too cute in
Denver for me to fully get behind it. I hope
I'm wrong, man, we're Bronco fan. I hope they're able
to carry it all the way. But I just don't
feel I can't. I can't feel comfortable about it.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I would just ask for everybody out there, like a
little public service not announcement request. What would it be
a ps R instead of a PSA. I got a
public service request? Can we not do the thing we
always do? Where the Broncos are a great version of
this where it's like or example of this where you say, man,
they're nine to two. They had that one point loss
(35:54):
against the Colts, remember the weird penalty on the field goal,
and they lost by three points against the Charge. They
could be undefeated, they could be eleven, and oh yeah,
it's like, are we really playing that game?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You gotta look at the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter alone
against the Giants.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
That was a miracle win.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Like the Texans game, the Raiders the.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Jets, Like, there's so many games where they could have
gotten tripped up, so let's just not do the thing
where they could be eleven and oh yeah, they could
be a five lost team easily right now.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You know, so it works both ways, That's all I'm
telling you.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
All right.
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Speaker 5 (37:56):
All right?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
If we look at.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
The crystal ball over here, it's amazing. If you look
at the college football playoff rankings, you're trying to project
who's gonna be in, who's gonna be out. We literally
have one more game left for all these teams, and
it's still a puzzle where you're like, if this team
loses this game, it's gonna throw that out of whack
(38:18):
and this and it's still not a clear cut picture
at this stage. Do you see any major curve balls?
Do you see a major upset, a major shake up anywhere?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Uh? Man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I think that Pittsburgh Miami having to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Keep an eye on that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Carson Beck has picked some bad times to play some
bad games, but then playing in pretty cold weather that
that is something to watch. And I'm just not so
sure about Miami. I think that's probably the one my
eye is on the most. And then again, and I
said this earlier, I definitely think Texas A and M
better be real careful tonight against Texas. Obviously they're gonna
make the They're gonna make the College Football Playoff their way.
(39:01):
But Texas is one of those teams that's trying to
make some kind of a case for themselves and maybe
get a little help above them. And in some cases
they're going to but A and M better watch out,
like their undefeated season is very much in jeopardy in
my opinion, just because I think Texas is going to
play really hard tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, fair enough. You know, I got my eye on
the Ducks. I'm not convinced that Ducks are going to
Washington and just Waltzon through them. You know, that's a
tough defense. I think the real test is Washington's offense,
because against the lesser defenses, man, they carve them up.
But against better defenses, and Oregon has a good defense,
(39:41):
Washington has been held in check. So I'm curious what
Washington's gonna be able to do offensively. But that's a
tough place to play. Oregon is still all banged up offensively,
So that's one I've got my eye on is can
the Huskies?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Can they they pull a shocker over here? Exce if
they do.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Washington's coaches also in the in the running for the
Florida job.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yeah, it's like the lead.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I think he's lead in terms of Vegas now because
I think Florida is sort of the lane train. Seems
like it's either staying home or it's going to LSU.
I think those are probably I think it's more likely
he stays in Old miss now then he goes to Florida.
But I don't know if that has any lingering effect.
But I still think Oregon is awfully good. But that
is a that's a weird game, man, Like that Oregon
(40:24):
Washington game can be a really weird one.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I have a hard time seeing Oregon. They're gonna get
in right. If they lose their number six, they'd be
ten and.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Two two lost team.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, someone's gonna get squeezed though, you know what I mean, Like,
if you look at this look at this scenario. That's
why I don't agree that Notre Dame is a lock yet,
Like the nightmare scenario for the Irish is if BYU
beats Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship game, both
are getting in. If Bama somehow wins the SEC title game,
someone's getting squeezed, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
So we'll see how it works out. Everybody, have a
good day.
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