08/05/2021 - The Best Of Outkick The Coverage

Jonas Knox and Geoff Schwartz celebrate the start of the NFL preseason, which kicks off tonight on FOX with the Hall of Fame Game! The fellas talk Cowboys/Steelers, which coaches to bet on during the preseason and how this year favors players on the bubble. Lions head coach Dan Campbell has a nice coffee selection and Geoff weighs-in on the Big 12/Pac 12 alliance rumors. Danny G. delivers this week's Animal Thunderdome, featuring shark wrangling, bites and an Anaconda on the loose. Plus, Petros of AM 570 LA Sports makes up for missing Tuesday with some late week shenanigans!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:26):
you talk about an exciting day in the world of sports,
and it's NFL related. We will get to that here
coming up in just a couple of moments from now.
That guy right over there's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Jonas Knox.
This is Fox Sports Radio. You can hang out with
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(00:46):
the hell you are. We appreciate you making us a
part of your Thursday morning. We will take you all
the way up until nine am Eastern time, six am Pacific,
and we will do so with none other than the
great Jeff Schwartz and Jeff Shorts. May I be the
first to welcome you to Football Day. It is football Day,
and it's such a football day that I went and

(01:08):
looked up coaching records against the spreading the preseason. I
just finished doing that research, so I'm very ready for
today's football game. Um. That is how you bet the preseason.
By the way, in the NFL, there's striking numbers, by
the way for like three coaches with the records against
against the spread, like like legit where you're like, yeah,
I'm gonna have been on that teams. Three teams, three coaches, Um,

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that I did two years ago now very very profitable. UM.
And tonight tonight the matchup is not as is, the
difference is not as stark. But I but I do
have a side I'm going with. Let me let me
knnon can I try and guess the three coaches? All right?
I just want to get so do you have those
on you? The coaches that are best in the preseason?
Let me try and get By the way, that if
you're wondering what preseason game you guys talking about, oh,

(01:54):
you know the Hall of Fame game coming up eight
pm Eastern time on Fox between the Cowboys and Steelers.
But never mind, and all that three coaches that are
really good against the spread, that's actually this first four
there's one surprising one. Three I think you can guess. Okay, Um,
I'm gonna go John Harbaugh. He's thirty seven and twelve
to spread the preseason. Okay, so he's one of the four. Okay,

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So John Harbor is one of the four. I'm gonna
go oh man, god, who who else? Sort of is
a similar I'll go Mike Tomlin. Uh, not as good,
but good, okay, because I'm going by the same sort
of aggressive, in your face sort of coaching style. Um,

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I will go with Mike Rabel. Uh. He's no, he's
not actually not very damn it. Um all right, let
me you're on the right track. But there's it's it's
it's not really the aggressive in your face coach that
that's that's it's And these are current coaches right now.
And okay, Mike Zimmer, Uh, he's fantass. Yes, he's only

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not he's only he's only failed to cover five preseason games.
Sean Payton. Uh, Sean Payne I think was good, But
he's not on the list. He's not coached. Oh no,
so you're right, he's still coaching. No, he's on he's
um under five. I thought I thought Drew Brees and
Sean Payne were together, But Sean still coaching. He's I
got I got two more, um Ron Rivera and Pete Carroll. Yes, yes,

(03:24):
Rivera is Okay, Pete is very good. It's defensive coaches. Okay,
so defensive coaches. Is not a defensive coach, but he's
not an offensive coach. Okay, guys, these guys defense coaches, man,
they want to win every freaking game. These offensive guys
do not care. They just want to get their guys
work in and go home. Okay, So give me the
order of the of the best coaches against the spread

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in the preseason best coaching record. It's Harbaugh, believe or not,
It's probably John Gruden. Next, he's like the one outlier
of this. He's thirty six and eighteen against the spread.
Um And then it's Zimmer. Zimmer has a higher win percentage.
And think grun does Pete Carroll against the spread? I mean,

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none of those are surprising, not even Gruten. The Gruden
stuff isn't surprising at all, because Gruden does seem like like,
first of all, if you are really all into we
want to win these preseason games, your ultra competitive probably
have lost a lot of friendships while playing like a
game of pool or playing a game of bad Mitten
or something like that. That that that that right there

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is that guy. There's an old story where Bubby Brister
went over to John Elway's house and John Elway had
gotten this brand new pool table, and Bubby Brister beat
him in a game of pool, and after he left,
John Elways sold the pool table like didn't want it
in his home because he could not handle the fact
that somebody beat him with that. So, yeah, this is
if if you're one of those competitive red asses, the

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preseason means a lot to you. So those names don't
really surprise me. I've heard about John Harbor, I have
heard about Mike Zimmer, but these are ultra competitive guys.
But let's in, man, the preseason's here. Jeff Schwartz, I
mean we've waited how many months for this? I mean,
this is a Hall of Fame game. It's a standalone game.
You got two proud franchises. You got the Cowboys, you

(05:11):
got the Steelers, and it's all gonna play out on Fox.
I can't wait, man, looking forward to it. Um yeah,
it's uh, it's gonna be very exciting. I told my
wife last night that I'm gonna be watching football tonight.
And she was less than thrilled. Well, she not expecting
it was back this soon. Is that the issue? I think,
I honestly think she just has no idea like when football,
Like I remember a couple of years ago, it was

(05:32):
like September and she's like, oh, when do is football start?
I'm like, it's it's a week four ready. Just like no,
just no, just no awareness to sports. Yeah, I mean
look and uh and you know, if you're the Dallas
Cowboys or the Pittsburgh Steelers, maybe some of their fan bases, like,
you know, I'll peek at it. I'll take a look
at it, you know early on. You know, I'll give

(05:52):
you a little bit of a glimpse and give you
some of my attention. But here's what why I do
think it's, Uh, this is interesting to watch because the
Dallas Cowboys have already come out and they have already
said that there's going to be a lot of players
that are missing. I believe sixteen players aren't even going
to make the trip to Canton. Quarterback Dak Prescott's one
of those guys. DeMarcus Lawrence is another guy. Then you've

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got guys like a Marii Cooper, um Tyron Smith. UM,
they're also going to be out. Zack Martin is going
to be out for Thursday for tonight's game. So you
got a bunch of key players of the Dallas Cowboys
that are not going to be in. UM. The Pittsburgh
Steelers probably aren't going to play a lot of their
starters when it comes to getting him a ton of reps.
So this brings up the point. And you and I

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were talking a little bit about this last night, just
sort of going over the show and just different you
know thoughts, and as we as we go ahead to
to today's show, this is a golden opportunity like this.
In fact, this is a golden opportunity for a lot
of guys on the bubble that didn't have this opportunity
a year ago. With no preseason. You had no idea
who could pop, who could jump out to you in
an actual game environment. And this feels like a really

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good opportunity for a lot of guys to try and
make an impact. And because it's the Cowboys, we're going
to see a lot of this stuff play out on
Hard Knocks episode one. We we will And here's the
important part about the preseason, and people need to understand
about about competition, right, is I think the rosters fifty
five guys. I think I did not change after COVID.
I haven't. I haven't checked to see if if that's
still the case. But let's say it still. You know,

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forty eight of those spots are probably already taken, and
you know, you go an example does by the way,
was what happened with the Panthers, right we talked about yesterday, Um,
a player of there's a young player of their's UM
hit a wide receiver over the middle. It wasn't the
most vicious hit in the world. Um, but he got
released right away, right it was? It was it was
a sign of hey, we're not gonna practice like this.

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And you saw you in Vendor. I thought Ryan Clark,
you know, a longtime Steelers, say hey, look like um
it was I think it was r C. I don't
want to put put this on him if it wasn't.
But some of them was like, yeah, yeah, I would
have done that because I'm a veteran, like you go,
don't make those plays in practice, you know better? Right?
And that shows you like they kind of right away
he was never making the roster, never making the roster.
And it's a good example of there are people who

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players actually say they have no chance to make the
roster no matter what they do. They're already pencilan to
be released because forty eight of the fifty or already
are already on the team before cam starts. Whether that's
contract situation, whether there's I'll give example of contract situation.
So my first year with the Giants, I played a
game and a half. I was hurt a bunch of

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that season, first started NFL history to going on r
twice in one season. So congratulations to me for yeah,
I get I get a big scar on my leg.
Um it's it's a good looking scar too. So so
we the entire preseason. I was running with the second
team entire preseason basically of my assume my second year there.
Right So I the first year, I played a game

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and a half and John Jerry filled in for me
right guard. We go to the second year and um,
we rotated back and forth with the ones. But in
the preseason I didn't start a game at right guard.
I think the last person the game that year. I
started to right tackle weirdly enough, and we go into
Week one and no one told me I was starting,

(09:16):
Like the coaches didn't tell me, anyone in the front
office didn't tell me I was starting a week one,
but just instinctively when we went out to walk through
on Monday of we played Dallas that year in a
week one, John basically just took went from right guard
and just went into you know, from the walk through
left the position, just went to go play defense for
the walk through, which is what kind of backups do.

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Right on defense, which I had done all training game,
I played defense first because John was starting, and that
was an example of like I was being paid to start,
I was gonna start playing simple, and I was deserved
to start. But the point is, like everyone kind of
knew I was starting because they paid me to start.
So there are guys under contract who are going to play.
It's just the way it is because they have they're

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being paid to play, and the team not gonna waste money. Um,
And so that's why a lot of players are on
the roster. A lot of players are on the roster
because they've been drafted right three years of draft classes
typically are on the roster unless you're really really bad.
You might be released if you're a lower draft pick
and then you have and then you have the priority
phrases that that you brought it and you've given them
some guaranteed money, uh you know, one year deals, but

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you've you've guaranteed them enough to make them feel like
they should be on the team. And so it's it's
really fighting for like that that last that last offensive
line spot, that last linebacker spot, that last it's um.
And so the preseason is very important for those guys
just for it's for it's for special teams, reps, right,
special teams. It's a great way to make the roster.

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And we didn't have that last year. So you know,
look for tonight, who's who's making those special teams players.
You might not be paying attention enough for that. I
get that it's preseason game one, but you know, if
you're watching the fourth quarter, see who's making those special
teams tackles, um, those those those are very important to
making the team. Yeah, and also like there's been some
legendary stories that the one that that's my favorite is

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the story of Terrell Davis. Terrell Davis was a fifth
or six string running back in Denver out of Georgia.
He wasn't getting a lot of playing time. The Denver
Broncos were over in Tokyo playing a preseason game, an
exhibition game, and he was done. He couldn't he couldn't
get on the field, and he just said, listen, I'm
out of here. He was getting ready to quit. He

(11:22):
called down before the game to the front desk to
book his flight. He was going to leave the team
and just go back home and figure out things after that.
And the only reason he wasn't able to get on
that flight is because the person at the front desk
didn't speak English, and so he wasn't able to rebook
his flight. So he ends up going to the game. Uh.

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You know, I didn't even think he was going to
get on the field because he hadn't gotten on the
field at all, So I think he might have eaten
or something like that as well too, so he had
like a full belly. And all of a sudden they said, uh, TD,
get out there, we need you on kickoff, and he
goes out there blows some dude up on kickoff. You
find the clip on YouTube, and then all of a
sudden the coaching stuff said who's that guy? And they're like,

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oh yeah, that's like our fifth or six string running back, Like, well,
that guy really wants it. Why don't you get them
some more playing time? That guy's in the Hall of
Fame now, I mean, like those that's an opportunity there,
Wes Welker's a lot of other guys who have gotten
opportunities in the preseason, Austin Ekelers or I mean Victor Cruz.
Victor Cruz is one too, right, and that's a great one.
He he had, he had a you know, an amazing preseason.

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They're like, maybe we should take a look at this
guy from you and with U mass right, I think,
what's a U mass um? And and so that's why.
And again it's guys, it's not a lot of stories, right,
we just ran it off a couple of them. You know.
I've seen a couple of stories every now and then
of of guys that you know, on a team I
played with, you like, wow, this guy needs to stay here.
But you know, coaches might have already thought Victor Cruz
was gonna make the team, and they just proved it,

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you know, during the games. And that's a lot of
thing too, is that we see a lot of guys
that are really good without pads on during the offseason program, right,
we get the pads on, things are a little different,
and then we see a lot of guys are good
in practice that just can't play in the games. Right
I was, I was, I wasn't much better, and you know,
kind of overall as a player in the game that

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I wasn't during practice. I just I like the games.
I played better in games. Things slowed down for me
during games. It just was it was just was I
played better. So guys the opposite, they're terrible in games,
they're good in practice that the pressure gets to them.
And so that's why these games I think are so important.
Now again, they're not important for the starters as much.
And we're not gonna see any starters to I would

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imagine maybe a couple if there's a ross and roster issues.
But you know, we've already been told we're not seeing bad,
we're not seeing dak. I doubt we see much of
the starters for either a team. So it's to night
where you don't look backups. You've had two weeks in
camp already, you've had an opportunity to show what you
can do against each other, and now as an opportunity
to show what you can do um in a in
a preseason game. And also it's a job, a job

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interview for other teams, Like maybe there's something that will
open up for another team, maybe if they've got a
hold or they like what they see. If you don't
make the roster, you could be on their squad. And
coaches will tell you that. Um, you know, they'll they'll
straight out tell you. Especially the special team's coach will
be like, look, guys, you may not make the roster
on our team, but if you show out on special
teams or you show out on you know, defense or offense,

(14:09):
it's more special teams. I think where that gets noticed.
Uh yeah, you might have you might have a spot
a different team because you know, the scouts are you know,
after the game's over tonight, every team in the NFL
is gonna have that film and the scout's gonna be
watching that film getting ready for you know, either game
to the preseason for the Cowboys and Steelers opponents just
look at the film in general to find anyone you like, um,

(14:31):
you know, to maybe join your roster and they have
a list ready to go. And if you get released, um,
at the end of the preseason. You know there's a
list of of guys that teams are going after. Yeah,
it's a it's gonna be a lot of fun, man,
just a great great to have football back. I don't
care if they're seventh stringers. I couldn't care less. It's football.
It's on National TV, it's on Fox. It's Cowboys and Steelers,
all of that stuff. And we will have more on

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the Hall of Fame game throughout the course of the show.
He's you have shorts on Jonas Knox's I'll kick the
coverage here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next though, there
is some concern for a franchise quarterback in the NFL.
We'll get the very latest on that right here, Fox
Sports Radio. This this is outkicked the coverage. It's out

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kicked the coverage here, Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Jonas Knox. I want to apologize, first of all
to a member of the Fox Sports Radio family. Justin
Cooper exposed me on a private text. He called me
out because I didn't give credit where credit was due.
One of the bumper songs from earlier in the hour
was three eleven, and they used an instrument called a

(15:36):
piccolo snare, and he attacked me to be a text
saying you didn't bring up the piccolo snare, And I'm like, man,
I thought nobody cared. Like that's just you know, inside
baseball music stuff. Yeah, I mean, come on, man like,
but you know, in case you were wondering why the
snare drum for three eleven sounds different, it's a piccolo snare.
It's a little bit different. Pot that too. When I

(15:58):
heard the song, I was like, you know what, I'm
sure it was a pecolo. Yeah, piccolo air drum. That's
what it is. Drum. Yeah, all right, it's uh, it's
get the coverage here on fs ARE by the way,
coming up ten minutes from now. Um, I don't want
to say that this quarterback is full of crap, but
but he could have gone there's just an easier way

(16:20):
to explain what's going on. And you'll hear from that
quarterback coming up here on Fox Sports Radio. Now, let's
get into this discussion here because there is bad math
attached to this. But Dan Campbell, the head coach of
the Detroit Lions, who I am slowly but surely falling
in love with more and more each day. He decided
to step to the podium yesterday in Detroit and talk

(16:41):
about his coffee habit every single morning. Normally, what I
do is I get I'll get to venty. I got,
you know, Starbucks to get to venty of the pipe
with two shots in him so black, I am both.
That's what I come in with. That's how it starts
to day. So alright, so let's clear up a couple
of things here. There was some bad math done on

(17:03):
social media, some bad reporting on this. People were saying,
that's eighty ounces of coffee. I mean, what is he
a racehorse? Now? First of all, it's not eighty ounces
of coffee. It's forty ounces. E vent is twenty ounces,
the second one is twenty that's forty. Where we kind
of tiptoe into the land of maybe you're doing it
a little too much here, d C is when he

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adds the double shot of espresso in each one, So
he's got twenty ounces with a double shot of espresso
and each one. So he's got forty ounces of coffee
and four shots of espresso every single morning. And people
wonder why the guy puts on a racing helmet and
shows up to a press conference and then gets ecstatic
when there's a fighter practice Jeff Schwartz and why he

(17:48):
likes to fight kneecaps. He's under the influence of cafe.
That is Milli Graham's a caffeine I believe. Um. I
don't know if that's the math is right on that
one either. UM. I almost find myself rooting for Dan
Campbell because there's such a pushback to his old the
way he talks, how he's not very eloquent and people,

(18:12):
and I guarantee use players love him. And I think
that he gets bassed for things that really think he
shouldn't be. And I don't know if he's gonna be
a good coach, but he hired good coaches to help him,
and the players seem to like him. Jared Goff is
probably not his guy. On the fund quarterback. They think
they drafted very smartly right in the trenches, get yourself

(18:34):
more physical. And I'm rooting for him because people like
they don't like his meat head attitude. And again I mean, yeah, okay,
he's not an eloquent speaker. There are other coaches that
have said at things a little bit you know, crisper
than he does, but who cares? Who cares that? He said, guys,
I want my guys to almost fight, like like like,
would you rather have a coach saying you know what,

(18:54):
I want us to get to the edge but not fight.
I have like Joe Judge be like making the guys
run sprint after practice like high school airy. Um. So,
by the way, did you see that another veteran quit
football after being Giants camp? The third guy so far. Now,
basically that for everybody that Joe Judge runs a tight
ship there, Joe Looni is like, come on, Joe Loony

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is like, I'm not running sprints ever yet. I'm out piece,
I'm here, I'm Joe Louie had been there two days.
He had to run a lap for a bad snap
I think, and I had to run wind sprints and
push ups because of a fight. And he's like, you
know what, let's just ain't for me, guys bouncing uh
and with offense. But I mean you think he's going
to get another crack though, Joe Looney, I mean I
feel like if if offensive line plays where it's at

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in the NFL in a lot of places, that feels
like a name that he would turn to at some point. Yes,
but the question is now do the Giants have his
rights or do they release him. That's a good point. Um, Listen,
I'm I'm with you man. I hope it works with
Dan Campbell in Detroit or whether it does, I think
it's a long shot, but I hope it works just
because he does it differently. All Right, I'm tired of
this high salutant offensive football. And here's what you do,

(19:58):
and here's my scheme, and he here's my formattics. Dan
Campbell's like, let me, let me mainline some Starbucks coffee
and then get out there and start biting players and
encouraging fights at practice. We need some of that in
the NFL. I'm glad it's here. More out of the
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(21:55):
lot of work with the with the Pack twelve, obviously
being a Pack twelve. Alum, I know, do a lot
of radio with the with the Pack twelve. Um and Um.
There's been some rumblings about how the Pack twelve might
adjust to what happened between Texas and Oklahoma going to
the SEC. And one of those rumors that was out
there that's been made made the rounds in the last

(22:17):
couple of days, has been a potential Big twelve Pack twelve. Uh,
you know, sort of been an agreement, an alignment, if
you will. Um. It feels like the Big twelve is
kind of scrambling right now because when you actually take
a look at the Big twelve and without Oklahoma and Texas, Uh,
some slim pickings there, um, which is why they were

(22:37):
really bothered by their decisions to leave to go to
the SEC. But that being said, Um, the Pack twelve
could be looking a little bit different in the next
few years here based on some of these reports. Yeah,
so this is about two weeks ago now, right Oklahoma
and Texas it was announced we're looking to join the
SEC conference. And that happen fast and and they've done that,
and I think this will happens sooner than and when

(22:59):
it happened, there was a scramble of of what happens next?
Right does that's a Big twelve Pack twelve and Big
ten and a CC and whoa. And it's like two
weeks later, it's like, all right, we've calmed down and
we've realized I think that nothing has to happen. Right,
The Big twelve has eight teams left, and I'm sorry

(23:21):
Big twelve fans, I'm sorry. None of the eight teams
left are very appetized into the Pack tel of conference
with the Big ten. Here. So here's Jonas, here's why.
I'll explain why. Okay, so let's say that every Pack
twelve team right now is getting ten million dollars per
you know, from their team? Do I actually think it's

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actually the number is actually twenty four million per I'm
gonna find it right now. Because John Wilner is for
those who care, he's the best guy to cover the
PacTel conference. He tweets this out. Um, so the goal
when you add here here goes Tier one media rights
for the Pack twelve is twenty four million per school.
The Big twelve media rights is twenty eight million per

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school and half of that of that twenty eight million
comes basically from Texas and Oklahoma being in their conference,
right per the commissioner. Okay, so if the pack to
over to add schools, and the reason you add schools
is to is to generate more revenue, right, it's not
really Again, we don't need to add schools unless there

(24:22):
becomes four leagues sixteen team conferences, right, basically, right, so
we have these super conferences which might happen. So if
we add four teams, does the does the does the
pie still equal twenty four million or more for each school?
If we add four teams and it increases the overall

(24:45):
number for the TV revenue, but our schools, each individual
school is getting less than twenty four million, then that's
a stupid deal for us, right, because you want to
make more per school, and there's an argument that none
of the schools and look this, you can make the
same argument for if you USC An Oregon in Washington,
U c A. Were to leave the packtorlve conference. Let's
say USC usc organ out the pactor of conference, the

(25:06):
same we'd be screwed to the same argument can be
made about the Pack twelve or if Michigan Ohio State
leave the Big Ten right like that, you can be
made in any in any conference. But right now the
Big twelves dealing with this is the Pack twelve. Adding
for the schools doesn't help our bottom line unless Oklahoma
State and Kansas and Iowa State and Baylor, let's say,

(25:28):
move the needle with TV networks and then and then
it makes sense for us to do so. Now again,
if if our CA new commissioner, georgeff welcome to college football, buddy, um,
if he decides that we want to be proactive as
a conference and go to a super conference because the
SEC is doing it, and maybe the Big ten wants

(25:49):
to do in the a C wants to do it,
then sure, then yes, yes you have to add four teams.
But I can make an argument to notice that one
of the four could be should could and should be
San Diego State, right, Um, I can make an argument
maybe it's Boise State. Um. So I know that the
PAC twelve and Big twelve talked for six hours yesterday
day before that, which is great, Right, Bob Bosley should

(26:10):
do whatever he can to bolsters conference. Our new commissioner
George Golkof should talk to as many people as he
can about what to do here, but there really doesn't
have to be anything done. The Big twelve, the eight
teams left can go get themselves four teams from the
a C and form a pretty good conference, right. You
get Memphis, Cincinnati, UCF in Houston, all right, now, as

(26:31):
good with Oklahoma Texas. But but there's no need for
the Pac twelve to rush out and and have four
Big twelve teams join their conference. There's no need for
that now. Yeah, and we're gonna have more on this
discussion with Petros Papa Acas, who has been very vocal
about the issues of the Pack twelve, coming up next
hour here on Fox Sports Radio. He should have short time.

(26:52):
Jonas Knocks is his outkicker coverage here Fox Sports Radio,
coming up fifteen minutes from now. It is the final
installment of Jeff Schwartz has perfect offensive line, all right,
the perfect offensive line. And I believe we're doing a
double shot like the Dan Campbell coffee, a double shot
of espresso. You're gonna do the entire right side correct
the right guards because is the easiest one of all.

(27:15):
So that's why it's uh makes it. We'll make it
full very quickly. Yeah, so we will be having that
coming up here fifteen minutes from now. Right now, though,
it is time for something we do on the show,
and it's called this, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just glad.

(27:37):
I was scared boys, and I thought he thought I
was like this enormous piece of chicken dime times my space.
This is animal thunder Doil. Oh my god. It gives
me chills every time. I feel like it's Halloween when
I hear that intro. But it is that Danny g

(27:59):
Are executive for you, Sorry to tell us just about
the bizarre world of when animals and humans meet all right.
Australian authorities are investigating a shark attack that's believed to
have been provoked by the so called victim of the attack.
Thirty two year old Aaron Malir, had to be hospitalized
after his failed stunt of jumping onto the back of

(28:22):
a shark. This isn't the first time this clown has
tried this. He did this once in and put it
on his Instagram page. Mair had been working as the
skipper on board a chartered boat. He made the reckless
decision to try this again while paying passengers watched in horror.

(28:44):
This took place around Veronas Island. While the passengers had,
you know, paid to get a peaceful glimpse of the ocean,
Mair decided to give them a surprise show. He jumped
off the boat and onto the back of an eleven
and a half foot lemon shark. Seven News reported the
study shark responded by throwing him off and maulling him.

(29:04):
The passengers obviously were terrified. They were able to get
him back on board and perform first to aid on him.
He had some bad injuries. The crew had a long
sail ahead of them to get back to West Australia.
Paramedics met the boat at the shore attended to his injuries.
He was finally admitted to Royal Perth Hospital about ten

(29:25):
hours after the initial mauling. He remains recovering from the
injuries to his back and leg. His injuries are deemed
as significant but not life threatening. His mother said in
a statement that he was in good spirits. Hi a
question for the crew, A little round table here more
ballsy jumping on the back of a shark or being

(29:48):
a bull rider? I mean the bull rider you have
people there to help corral the bull exactly. Yeah, it's
like training wheels, like you don't have that with a
freaking shark. It's it's like the bumpers that when you're bowling,
like you know, like you can go ride a bull,
but they put the bumpers up so you don't have

(30:08):
to worry about throwing gutter balls. This guy is jumping
on the back of a shark. This guy's got balls, man, correct,
good for him. I might have balls, but it isn't
that much brains. He's an idiot, Yeah, he absolutely, He's
an idiot for sure. It's like there's been bull riding
for how many years? So you know you have a

(30:30):
schematic there, you know how to do it with jumping
on the back of a shark. Yeah, that's not gonna
end good. So let me so, Roberto, you were at
Dodger Stadium for when the when the Astros, the World
Series champs from came to l A. But I gotta
ask you more balls he jumping on the back of
a shark or being an Astros fan at Dodger Stadium

(30:53):
the other night jumping on the back of a shark. Okay, good,
all right? So you guys are nice to astros fans.
I just want to oh yeah, of course, all right,
another shark story now. I texted this picture to everybody
on the show, and I'll tweet this out at Danny
G Radio Ocean City, Maryland. I actually have a program

(31:13):
director friend there at a radio station, and he always
brags to me about the beautiful water and how there's
never sharks or anything like that. Well, family members of
a twelve year old Pennsylvania girl are disagreeing with him,
and locals saying that she suffered injuries after a suspected
shark attack in Maryland that left her with forty two
stitches and twenty cuts. You guys are looking at this picture,

(31:36):
but locals and local authorities are saying they're not so
sure that this was a shark attack. Listen to the
report on w jay Z Channel thirteen. Her family saying
she was bit by a shark, what Ocean City officials
saying it may have been something else. Rachel Card for
us now along the water's edge after speaking to experts
about shark behavior this time of year, Rachel hey rickon Denise. Yeah, so,

(32:01):
a local marine biologist here in Baltimore said getting bit
by a shark is extremely uncommon. Shark attacks almost never happened,
which is why it's often just one bite, a case
of mistaken identity and the shark let's go. But that
one bike can cause some serious damage, like the damage
you're about to see, so we want to warn you.
Some of the images are pretty graphic. This is twelve

(32:22):
year old Jordan Pashinsky's leg after getting out of the
water in Ocean City on Monday, she felt something sharp
brush up against her. The family thinks the wound is
a shark bite. We still don't know what it was.
That was a shark bite. Ocean City's Beach Patrol was
on scene to treat the little girl and say some
sort of encounter with marine life can't be ruled out.

(32:43):
But in butch Arden's forty nine years with the Beach Patrol,
he's never seen anything like this and they're not confirming
it was a shark. Pattern from this little girl indicates
this absolutely was not an attack. We don't know why
it was. Jay Bradley, local shark expert and the curator
of the Blue Water Exhibit at the National Aquarium, says,

(33:03):
though the ocean is the sharks home and swimmers are
just visitors. It's not unsafe to be in the water
with sharks. They don't want to bite people. Oh yeah,
have you ever seen Jaws? I mean, wait, so, so
what if it's not a shark, what is it? It's
a very good question, and that's why this feels like
they're just taking care of tourism. Yeah, well, yeah, well no,

(33:28):
you brought up Jaws. That is one of the scenes
early on in Jaws where they're saying, hey, man, keep
this hush, hush. We know, we know a kid got eaten,
but you know, we gotta make sure the tours still
show up because there's a holiday weekend coming up. Yeah, listen,
I call BS. I've seen wounds like this before. This
is backyard wrestling one oh one. There was a barbed
wire match and this is exactly what happened. They're trying

(33:48):
to blame it on a shark. I call BS. I
hope she heals up. I hope that, you know, the
twelve year old gets healthy. I'm calling crap on this,
not buying it for a minute. It's backyard wrestling, warm wire.
The reporter said it was graphic in each or so
I will make sure to tweet that out. It's not
that but I mean, but it's not. It's not bad.
It's it's bad because she's a young girls. The cut

(34:09):
is not that bad in general. Well, but it's not
her like rubbing up against a rock in the water,
which is what they're trying to say that They don't
even think it was any sort of attack a rock.
It's definitely a ya a rock, a rock with claus
to go back to jaws, Jonas you ready for this?

(34:32):
This was no body accident, al right, and finally call
it The Great Escape Part two. A Tallahassee man's eleven
foot yellow anaconda escape from his mom's house, leading to
charges and a search for the snake. Yeah, go figure.

(34:54):
The anaconda, a prohibited non native species called aggressive by
its owner, not a whole through the screened in porch
at his mom's house. This isn't the first time the
snake has gotten out. It also slithered away free four
years ago. The owner's mom reported the most recent escape
of her son's anacondo. Yeah, recording according I'm just reading

(35:19):
the article, according to a horn of Bit and Wildlife
Conservation Commission incident report. So the mom ra added him out.
The report says that the snake was typically kept inside
an enclosure with a glass sliding door that was able
to lock, but in July, the owner opened the enclosure
and allowed the snake to roam inside the screened in porch.

(35:41):
So what went wrong? He fell asleep, he forgot to
put the snake away, one of the largest species in
the world. Yeah, he didn't put it back in its cage.
When he woke up the next morning, he remembered, Oh,
my anaconda, and he discovered that it had escaped. Yet
I've heard of people jail time. I've heard of people

(36:02):
falling asleep with a pizza in the oven and you know,
problems happening. But you imagine like fall asleep and realizing
your anaconda got out. Strength to jail? Yeah, next thing,
you know, like the neighbors are missing their dog and
it's like, I don't know, I don't know what to jail.
And now how how how big is this? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

(36:25):
just under twelve feet long? Jail the the uh. One
of the favorite things that I've ever heard on the
show was the how many how hot does the girl
have to be? Like? How many snakes hot does a
girl have to be. Like, walked into a girl's apartment
on say the second or third date, and she had

(36:45):
let's say, yeah, seven to ten snakes in cages? How
hot does she have to be Jonas to stay there? See?
For me, I grew up with snakes. So my brother
had Burmese python straight to jail. Favorite brother too. He's
just and I mean, but but that's like I let
him crawl all over me, like there was no I
sort of got there was no there was no issue. Man,

(37:06):
they're they're fine. Yeah, there there was no there there's
not a problem, like a spider on my shoulder. Like
two weeks three weeks ago, we did like a little
party at the house with this guy who brings like
pets over and he had like a seven foot uh python,
And I mean it's just it was okay, I guess,
but like it's not my cup of tea and didn't
I could have a pank attack. But yeah, I mean,

(37:28):
but like, so you walk into girl's house, she's got
ten snakes, Like how hot does she have to be
for you to stay? You don't care? How long? For
a couple of follow ups? How much have I drank?
And how long has it been, because those are very
very important questions. You ever determine that, Danny, I'm not sure?
And are they in enclosures or are they just slithering

(37:49):
around her apartment? I mean, look, what about iguanas? You
get you guys have a problem with iguanas. We had
iguanas growing up, and they would they would crawl around
the house like freely, like there was an oh, it
was just whatever, like here they are. I mean, that's weird.
But okay, yeah, I'm just saying like that's so so
I'm a bad person, ask because I'm I'm used to reptiles.

(38:09):
We had desert tortoises growing up, snapper turtles. They would
get out all the time, and then the neighbors would
call vic the turtles in our package. So you would
just wake up in the morning as a child and
you'd walk to the bathroom and there'd just be a
freaking iguana just hanging out on the floor. Yeah, sometimes
in the shower, just walking around the shower like yeah, okay,

(38:30):
all right, yeah, how do you open the door? Right?
You ever seen the movie you ever seen the movie Overboard,
the original one with Kurt Russell and Goldie Han. That
house that they they're in with all the crap and
just like that was basically our home growing up to
where there's a you know, a turtle and just walking
around there's a stuff all over the place. There's Yeah,
it's just it was a wild youth for me. But

(38:53):
you know, by the way, I feel like that breakdown
of the story, there's gonna be a lot of sound
drops applied to Danny g moving forward, should be, but
he's just reading off a story. But I'm just I
guess I'm just very stunned about the iguana. Yeah, my
brother that he worked with reptiles and so we always

(39:15):
like a komodo dragon. He brought over a komodo dragon.
He knows. Yeah, he worked at reptiles like he would
he would Basically what happen is when animal control when
they would when they would get a when they would
get a call, animal control would get a call that
there would be a reptile or something in somebody's backyard.
If they didn't want to handle it because they weren't

(39:36):
comfortable with it, they would call my brother and he
would go, you know, it would be a snake, uh, lizards,
all sorts of stuff that they just wanted no part
of he would go be the guy to do it.
Do you have a van that said like reptile guy
on the truck on it? Yeah, in a truck. Yeah,
I spread of Gosh, I'm not making this up. Yeah,

(39:56):
that was this thing. That's what That's what he did
when we grew up. Like, so that's why all of
that's like we've seen him feed uh, you know, mice
to snakes. Uh. That's interesting to see. As a kid,
you sort of look at things different moving forward. But yeah,
that's that's how this works. That's how that's how I
was raised. Man. I don't know if that explains anything, Eddie,
but that's that's how I was raised. It actually explains

(40:18):
a lot of us, does I'm just saying, man. And
by the way, the most the freakiest one was the
Komodo dragon, right, the Komodo dragon is is that is
a straight up dinosaur. I don't want to hear anybody
say that is a dinosaur. The Komodo dragon was gnarly
seeing that thing in our living room. There's just a
weird one. Yeah, Jeff Schwartz Jonas Now it's kicked the

(40:40):
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(41:00):
weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. Talking the
coverage here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up later on in
the hour, we'll have another edition of the Scraps. Some
things in the world of sports we've not had a
chance to get to, but right now he is one
of our favorites. Every single week he is kind enough
to join us here on Fox Sports Radio. He gets
up really really early to do so. He is Petro's

(41:23):
papach is a M five seventy l a Sports Fox
College Football analyst, Petro since Jonas and Jeff Schwartz. What's happening,
Good morning everybody. Uh sorry, I missed my appointed day
on Tuesday. I was at the Fox Football Seminar, which
has been moved or had been moved usually is right

(41:46):
here in my backyard at a place called the Tarrana,
which is a hotel here in Rancho Palace Verdes, which
is pretty much a city I grew up in and
I usually go, I say, this used to be Marine Land.
I have one drink and I kind of like walked

(42:07):
slowly out of the back. But I was I was
in for the long haul with everybody. Uh this weekend
so uh, we were just getting ready for football and
getting our assignments and all that stuff. I was disappointed.
And see the Petrel Media day dinner. I was there
at the dinner. No, No, they didn't invite us. Can

(42:31):
any of the Fox people get invited? If they did,
I didn't, Um, that's a good question. Actually, yeah, if
they I don't think they invited any of the Fox
people because I don't know. Maybe they they're mad at
us now or we don't have new talent to be
excited about like they do. I I don't know. We
have Pop Stoops and Chris Peterson, but they probably were

(42:54):
upset about your anger with with with the PAC twelve
conference at times. Yeah, I mean, come on, Petri, do
you feel better about the Pack twelve now that you're
at a media days? No? I mean, and that doesn't
mean there's not good teams in the Pack twelve or
some dormant things happening in camp right now. They're gonna
come true. And I mean, who knows, maybe Utah will

(43:17):
be undefeated going into November with that Brewer kid. I
love that quarterback. He's tough as nails. That's that's starting.
But that's not the issue. And you guys know what
the issue is, and we talk about it all the time.
USC football is the issue. And I was discussing this
and I won't say their names because they probably wouldn't

(43:40):
want it said publicly. But I mean, if you really
look around, every conference only really other than the SEC,
every conference really only has one team, and that one
team is the team that carries their flag. It's Ohio
State in the Big Ten and no one else. It
is Clemson in the a c C. That can't even

(44:03):
be argued They've got nothing out of having Miami in
Florida State all these years. It's in the Pac twelve,
USC in the Big Twelve. It's Oklahoma that's it. And
USC is the is the team that everybody else's eyebrows
will raise over on the rest of the the landscape

(44:27):
in college football. Does that mean that Oregon football isn't great, No,
it doesn't. Oregon football is great. They have an unbelievable
backing from Nike. They have a great fan base, mostly
from Springfield, and their coaches dedicated to the fronts, which
I love. Their coaches thumbing his nose at the rest

(44:51):
of the country or the rest of the coast that says, oh,
you you know, we just not We're not developers of
offensive line anymore on the West Coast. We just don't
have that type of player. You know. That's total BS.
That's just lip service for guys that want to go
have more seven on seven. That's total BS. And Christ
of all disproves it every single day. I like Oregon football,

(45:15):
but no one else does. You know some guy in
Oklahoma they don't. It doesn't resonate for them as a
great program, and it never will. Say with Washington, Uh, Stanford,
Stanford doesn't even want a fan base, for God's sakes.
So it's got to be USC and it's not been
for a dozen years. And even though there was a

(45:38):
bad TV deal, and the TV deal was bad, and
even though Larry Scott it was more than a disappointment,
but a disaster, and a guy a disaster coming out
of a limousine just to go to Starbucks. You really
can just look at the discord at USC over the
last twelve years, including the sanctions, and you could say

(46:02):
that's the that's the downfall of West Coast football in
so many ways. If you look at their schedule this year,
they are set up fairly well. No Washington, no Oregon, UM.
They don't have any of those weird Friday Thursday games.
Their nonconference slate is not too tough, even though Week
one Saursday stay should give you know they're they're a
decent team. Uh does it? Does it feel like this

(46:25):
could be a year for USC they should win the South,
but a year or two to compete nationally for a playoff?
Berth Well, I don't think they compete nationally because when
they actually get on the field with somebody who's physical,
they get pushed right off the ball. So it's I mean,
and that's not like one game, that's every time under

(46:47):
Even when Clay Helton had a more legitimate offensive line
coach in my opinion, and more of a legitimate offensive
game plan in my opinion, they still got their ask
pushed clear off the ball all by anybody they played,
Uh even Texas, for God's sakes. So it's not. That's

(47:09):
not like, okay, you you won your games in the
pack twelve. The second you get on the field with organ,
which even happened last year, you're gonna get embarrassed and
your quarterback is going to be spatulate off the field.
And it's happened two seasons in a row to Slova's.
He hasn't finished the year. They still run an air raid,
they hired an air raid offensive line. It just looks

(47:31):
it's more. It's more of an indictment on the inability
to run a college football program from the athletic director's chair,
or from the university's presidency, or from a nebulous, gigantic
board that pulsates like a giant organ with like sixty

(47:51):
rich people. I mean most people, Like Harvard's board has
like thirty people, and it's considered bloated. Janie McCord, From's
ambassador to France. Frank McCourt's wife is on the USC
board of trustees and they won't let the head coach
call plays or hire and fire people. So what does

(48:11):
he do? You know, that's the dysfunction that gets exposed
when they get involved with somebody who's a championship football
program at the level they're supposed to be competing. And
I don't know who's gonna beat him, but I promise
you somebody will. And you talked about San Jose State,
San Jose State, that that guy should have maybe gotten

(48:33):
the Arizona job. Brett Brennan, I was really I did
three San Jose State games last year. I think really
impressed with him. They got their wide receiver back, Bailey
Gaither who makes crazy acrobatic catches. The quarterback is in
his seventh year. Nick Starkle, he used to play in
Arkansas and Texas A and M. He beat San Jose

(48:58):
State playing for Arkansas SAW two years ago and then
he was the San Jose State quarterback. Uh. They have
Derek TEIs Son, a great tight end, j C. Guy
six six, beautiful body. Uh, they're they're running back is back,
the defense is back San Jose State. Look. I remember
the game that Slovis took over for J. T. Daniels

(49:21):
when he got hurt the Fresno State game opening the
season a couple of years ago, and they were driving
to beat USC and had a turn over at the
end of the game. So when you run an air
raide and you don't have a real identity from your
head coach. Every game's an adventure, Jeff I have been.

(49:43):
I'm surprised helped him and shook my hand at media
day the way I talked about his offense. And he's
a nice guy, He's the nicest guy of all time.
But I just the offense to me. Stop his offense,
I know. And the thing about it is is just
we don't No other power in the country is running
an old school area. There's a reason for that, right,

(50:03):
Like they're they're just not all right? Um, why why
do you not think Organ can be the bell cow
of the Pac twelve the next not not this season,
any of the next season. They're gonna have the roster
as blue. Doesn't matter if they're goodies. I love Oregan football. Look,

(50:24):
they could be undefeated. It's just it doesn't. They have
to win a championship. I'm just saying that they're the
closest to doing so. If they did, would that be
enough to get the Pack toel back on the map. Well,
of course if Oregan. If somebody wins a national championship,
then but you know that hasn't happened in a long time,
and it's you know, there is something to be said

(50:45):
for the fact that when the whole country was involved,
even though it was the BCS, which actually proved to
be better than the fourteen playoff, as far as universal
interest in our sport went, with the whole country being involved,
the most watched BCS champion ship was Oregon Auburn. And
that's because I think we had both both coasts. I mean,

(51:06):
Eugene looks like metropolis compared to Auburn, Alabama, which is
not the end of the world, but you can see
it from there. So why did everybody watch that game?
I mean, it's not Mariota wasn't the starter, you know,
if you remember, it wasn't like, you know, Cam Newton
versus Marcus Mariotta. So what was it? Was it? Jeff

(51:27):
Male I don't know. Uh, Oregon is a great football
program and they have obviously the backing of one of
the most powerful sports companies in the history of the world. However,
it's just the perception, uh Nash Like if North Carolina State,

(51:47):
you know, became some kind of power, you know, it
would take a long time for us over here to
be like, hey, what's going on with Dave Doran and
the North Carolina State team. You know, I'm like that
it would take a long time because it's just not
on the forefront of their mind. Marcus Mariota's Heisman victory
and Dennis Dixon, if he didn't blow out his knee
in that Arizona came on a Thursday night, probable Heisman victory.

(52:12):
I think our night, not that they wouldn't have deserved
it and didn't deserve it, but I think that Nike
backing that was behind Joey Harrington and all that. I mean,
I think that was a pretty significant thing. Other than that,
on the West Coast, it is almost impossible to win
a Heisman trophy unless you play at USC. And if

(52:35):
you don't believe me, ask Marshall Falk, ask Toby Gerhard,
ask Andrew luck As. I mean, yeah, I mean that
if he didn't win it, who could, you know? And
part of that is Stanford's issue. They don't have much
of a fan base and they don't want it, but
it is It's just it's an uphill battle, let's put
it like that. But if Oregon comes out and they

(52:58):
found a quarterback this year, uh, because I know they're
kind of searching, and they can get the ball downfield
a little bit more and do what they've been doing.
They'll be in every game. If they win one of
these early games, namely Ohio State, everybody's gonna freak out
and follow him. And we need it, we need it desperately.

(53:21):
But does it get Billy Bob going, who's an SEC voter?
You know, maybe maybe not, but hey, we need a
power shift, a real power shift that's significant that people
care about and embrace. And I just don't know if

(53:42):
it's possible. Uh. He's Petros Papada and five seventy l
a Sports Fox college football analysts joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jonas knocks Jeff short of the here
on I'll kick the coverage. Petros, what did you make
of Oklahoma's president saying, you know, part of the reason,
not the main reason, but part of the reason that
they were interested in a move to the SEC was

(54:02):
because they were not happy with the eleven am local
kickoff times because of their because of their TV deal
with Fox. Wait to the local kickoff time when you're
play in Florida, brother, But I think that they have
been orchestrating this for a long time. And they can

(54:25):
come up with whatever reason they want. And I think
we can all be mad at Oklahoma and Texas if
we if we feel like it. However, I think and
I know that this stuff happened a long time ago
with the Southwest Conference and people talk about that, but really,
deep down, most of us in college football when the

(54:46):
Pac twelve became the Pac twelve and Nebraska joined the
Big Ten and a lot of this stuff started to
seismically change. I think we felt, like a lot of
us out here in California. You know, in the eighties,
you know a big one is coming. You know, they
used to tell us that all the time. You know,
if they if you grew up in California in the eighties,
you knew what the big one was. You know, everybody's like, oh,

(55:09):
the big one. You know, it was every local news.
You're gonna die from the big one. Remember north Bridge
in ninety four, it was like a seven point They're like, no, no,
that's not quite big enough. That's not the big one.
My mom has lived in Los Angeles's nineteen fifty six
and she has said the same thing. Petro's like, the
big ones coming. I just know it. I'm like I
mean North Wodge was six point four our house like

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from its seems, I mean, it was pretty big. I
jumped through a screen door. And there was one before that,
you know, that was a few years before that was
really big. But I mean, I think we've all felt
the big one in college football thirty team twenty team conferences.
I think the thing that we all worry about, especially

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a guy like me who does Oregon State Hawaii games
and uh Town Nevada Pro Proud programs programs. I love
to follow programs that mean a lot to a lot
of people, especially me and my work in the conference
all these years, and you wonder what will happen to
those teams? Where will they go? And if those teams

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don't have college football or not no big time college
football with scholarships and all that, then what happens to
all the women's sports that are there too? Acquiesced to
Title nine? And you could say the same thing for
these big conferences that are going to move away from
the n C Double A, just like the college Football Playoff. Okay,

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if they're no longer in the n C Double A,
it doesn't really seem like they are under the umbrella
the n C Double A rules. There's a good thing
about that. We can pay players. Uh, we can get
these guys money they deserve, Not the n I L,
not some stupid uh the trailer park sales place down
the street paying your players, but the actual people making

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billions of dollars on their backs paying the players. But
then the downside to it is if you're not if
you're not under the umbrella the n C double anymore,
well why don't they'll cut women's volleyball without even blanket.
Look what they tried to do at Stanford just because COVID.
You know, they had no reason to do that other
than to try to save some money. There multibillionaires at

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that school. David Shaw made nine million dollars last year.
So you know that's the stuff that I worry about
with the size make change coming. I worry about our
smaller schools, some of the more have not schools which
still develop players and put guys in the league and
play great football. And I worry about the women's sports

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that are kind of teetering on existence because we're teetering
on existence with the n C Double A. Do you
think the PAC twelve needs to form an alliance with
either the Big Ten to absorb some Big twelve teamers
kind of stay put for now? Is is the landscape
of this kind of conference realignment keeps changing? Yeah? See,

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I mean for me, Jeff, like when I see like,
Oh Baylor, you know, it raises my eyebrow because I
like it there. I like the Brassos, But I have
to remind myself that it doesn't really matter to you know,
those aren't valuable entities. I think John Wilner said it
best is beyond Kansas basketball, there's not a lot to sell.

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What's left to the bad. I mean, Matt Campbell's probably
the best coach in college football, if not if not
top five. Uh, and that's not worth anything because it's
just a moment in time, and I worry about that.
I just you know, it doesn't make sense for the
Pac twelves to be talking to people in Lubbock, talk

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to the Big Ten. The Rose Bowl. That's the that's
the natural natural connection. That's that can action between USC
and Ohio State or USC in Michigan and what really
moves the needle and makes people excited in college football
about West Coast football. We need if we're going to

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talk to anybody which they will or or adapt or die.
It should be the Big ten in my opinion, and
the Big ten has got a lot of leverage. They
make the most money. Sorry, oh no, I was just
gonna say, Petros Papadgis get him on Twitter at the
old p and I think, if I read this correctly,
big ten teams get what fifty four million for being

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a part of the conference. Yeah. I think I'm about
doing a TV deal with Fox. Huh Yeah, how about that? Yeah,
maybe maybe you're gonna make our own TV company. I'm
gonna sweet building here in San Francisco amongst all the
poop and needles. Uh A, M five seventy l A Sports.

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You'll hear him later on with Matt Muney Smith Fox
college football analysts. Petros, we always appreciate it, man. We'll
do it again next week. Come a little beat up
this morning after Houston Dodgers last night, two days in
a row at Dodger Stadium, Like I feel like I've
been running around Manuel Noriego's uh rashid. Yeah, it was

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a little bit wild. Some of the scenes were a
little bit wild. I saw this with the videos. You know,
sometimes you gotta deal with the repercussions. Yea, all right,
Jonas Knocks Jeff Schwartz here on I'll kicked the coverage.
Petros is awesome. You just uh te him up and
let him roll. Let him roll. He's one of the

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only USC people who will speak honestly about their program.
And I read that about like I've been on this
USC offense for like for two years now. Is just
it's not ideal. And I'm glad that that I know
USC person who grew with me. Yeah, there's a lot
of people who refused to do that. He is at
Jeff Schwartz on Jonas Knocks coming up next year on

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I'll keep the coverage the scraps things in the world
of sports. We've not had a chance to get to
the oars next year. An fs are