08/23/2021 - Best of Outkick The Coverage

Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn call it a preseason diaper fire in Chicago. Should Bears fans be worried about the Bills smashing them on Saturday, or trust Matt Nagy’s comments? They react to Kyle Shanahan audio on announcing the Niners starter. The fellas talk Zach Wilson and his good showing for the Jets, the Packers sitting 32 guys, so they have a warning about the huge difference between backups and Week 1 starters. Plus, They discuss Jamar Chase's struggles with drops, Chase and Sewell, and The Scraps features a Big Ticket shrine and Quinn's theme music!

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That guy right over there's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knocks.
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on fs ARE. And we do so with the man himself,
the great and powerful Brady Quinn. I don't know that
I'm great or powerful, but it's Monday, baby. We got
a lot of football to talk about. Big weekend of
preseason football. I think we learned some things and I
don't know about you. And I hate actually admitting this
because every year I say this, there's always one or

(01:09):
two preseason games where I go, it kind of changed
the way I'm thinking about this team or about this player,
all right, And it may not be what people are
thinking out there, because there's a bunch of people out
there gassing up, just gassing up one of these rookie quarterbacks.
And I'm not talking about that guy. Okay, I'm talking
about a team. I'm talking about a scenario that I

(01:32):
think maybe needs to change based on what their general
manager and head coach have been saying. Yeah it is
um Listen, you know, we just peel back the curtain
here a little bit on Fox Sports Radio. You grew
up a die hard Chicago Bear fan. Correct. In fact,
there's documented proof of me as a young child wearing
my Bernie Kosar jersey growing up a northwest suburb of Columbus, Ohio,

(01:57):
close in proximity to Cleveland. I actually grew up with
Cleveland Browns fan. I I loved Eric Metcalfe. He was
one of my favorite players along with old Bernie. Yeah
so yeah, no, I I was actually a Cleveland Browns fan.
Wasn't a bearrass fan at all. UH grew to respect them,
you know, once I got to once I got the
South Bend s already going to Chicago. I thought Soldier

(02:18):
Field was really cool, but I never really grew up
a Chicago fan by any means. In fact, in basketball
obviously with the greatest of all time, Michael Jordan's he
crushed many of my childhood dreams. That's a good point. Yeah,
I didn't. I didn't think about that being Yeah, you
kind of forgot about all that. Yeah, but um, now
you mentioned Soldier Field. Um, Soldier Field actually were they

(02:39):
were getting ready for Halloween this year. Uh so they
actually dressed up Soldier Field as a diaper fire this
weekend because their football team stinks out loud. They are bad,
and they got exposed by the Buffalo Bills this weekend.
And the conversation in Chicago is surrounding the quarterback position.

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What should they do? Is it Andy Dalton? Is it
justin Fields? What's the plan? According to their head coach
Matt Naggy, nothing to worry about here, folks. We've got
everything under control here in Chicago. The stock of of
Andy for us is going to be is seeing what
he does during the season. You know that That's how
we got We gotta be able to see what what
can Andy do during the season with this team and

(03:22):
with with these guys. That has been our plan this
whole entire time. At the same point in time, we
also need to evaluate and see where Justin's at and
what he can do. And again, he's doing everything that
we're asking him to do. He's doing great. So I
think it's a good situation for us. And I understand,
I truly understand for people to want to see more
Justin and all that. I get that, um, but we

(03:45):
also understand where we're at and how what the true
plan is and and all we can do is ask
Justin to keep playing, and he's doing it, and Andy
to keep playing and Nick to keep playing. I think
I feel better now because for a second there, I
thought they got wiped out by the Bills and it
didn't look too hot on the Saturday. But apparently everything's fine, Brady,
they got a good situation at quarterback. There were good
so a couple of things bothered me. Aside from the

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quarterback conversation. If you were just watching the game, it
looked like one team was playing in the preseason and
the other team was in mid season four and the
Buffalo Bills were that team that looked like they were
in mid season four. And what should bother you is
the fact that the Bills weren't necessarily playing a lot
of the starters. It was their backups. It was other

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guys who were on that team, guys who might be
rotating in or providing depth that came in were able
to control the Chicago Bears offensive line and control the
Chicago Bears and basically do whatever they wanted for the
most part. I mean, that's the scary thing I think
if you're a Bears fan is you've realized that the

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cupboards bear you don't have a team with a lot
of depth on this roster. You don't have a team
that stacks up very well versus at least in the
a f C. I think what we look at as
one of the top teams. So if you're pointing at
Ryan Pace and Matt Nacky, you should be you should
be blaming them, saying, how can we look this bad
in a preseason game? And it's because they haven't done

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a good enough job building up this team right now,
so aside from the quarterback position, but that that it's
ultimately this is ultimately going to impact the quarterback position,
you don't have that kind of a football team. And
so now let's talk about the quarterback spot. Andy Dalton
is a veteran, He's been around the league. He's had
a lot of success. He's all time leading pastor in

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Bengal's history, you know, and we kind of write that
off because it feels like it was so long ago
when it really wasn't. But the truth of the matter
is he's seen more, he's done more. He knows more
than Justin Fields does right now. And so when Matt
Naggy is saying that to you, let's just have a
coach talk segment, if you will, he's saying that he

(05:53):
obviously trusts Dalton right now in this offense with what
they're planning on doing once this season starts more o
than Justin Fields. But my only thing with you, Jonases,
after what I saw from Justin Fields when he came
in the game, his ability to run will make Matt
Naggy's job. He's here and he'll make the players around

(06:15):
him look better because he provides that element that Andy
Dalton can't provide. He's not as elusive, he's not as fast,
and it's just he's not gonna have that, and so
it's gonna simplify what teams can do against them if
they play Fields versus Dalton. I think you and I
both know that day is coming much sooner than Matt

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Naggie or Ryan Pace want to admit. Yeah, I don't
know if it's gonna be week one, because I've when
you and I have talked about this for a while,
it wouldn't be the biggest shocker in the world if
all of a sudden, you know, justin Fields is the
starting quarterback week one against the l A Rams when
they open up the season. So I don't I don't
know if it's if it's going to be that soon,

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but damn it's kind what we're talking the first month
of the season, like it just feels like like it
feels like he covers up and makes up for a
lot of mistakes as well too, Like there's a lot
of deficite, Like the offensive line is brutal. Matt Aggie's
never committed to running to the football. That's been one
of the biggest knocks on him. He doesn't run the ball.

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There was a time last year with David Montgomery ripped
off like a fifty yard run and I think he
rushed the ball like eight more times the rest of
the game, and that was the first play of the game,
and he just there's never been a commitment there. So
at some point Matt n Aggie has got to have
an honest conversation with himself and say, hey man, this
guy might be the only reason that they keep me
around next year, like seriously, like because I don't I

(07:41):
think he I think he makes up for so many mistakes.
And Andy Dalton looked like he was on roller skates
backwards the entire game with no ability to get downfield
outside of one throw in the second quarter. I believe
it's bad spot. Bad spot. Well, it's a terrible spot
to be in. I mean, look, and I've been in
every spot that you could be in the NFL, as
as the guy who's waiting for that opportunity is the

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first round pick, as a guy who's then in there
and then and people are clamming for someone else, you know,
as a guy who's a backup trying to try to
hang on. Like I've been at it all, and I
can tell you you know that there's there's people cheering
or booing, cheering for fields or and booing Dalton, it's
gonna fire Dolt up. I mean, it's gonna fire him
up to want to try to make a player, want
to try to make something happen. The problem is that

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it's hard to do when you're not on a great team,
because then you're gonna force the issue. You're gonna try
to do something that's not there, and you're gonna try
to make more of something when when it's not there,
because you feel like you have to do something outside
of yourself in order to be able to win that
job or win over the fan base and win their appreciation.
And that's just not his game, Like he doesn't have

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that extraordinary element. I always talk to you about that.
You know, you and LaVar, we all work together. I
always talking about these rookie quarterbacks and quarterbacks in the NFL.
They have to have that like one extraordinary thing that
they do that can always get them out of a
jam or make a special play. And Fields has that.
He's got the athleticism, he's got the ability to run,
and he's got a lot of other things that come

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along with that. But that's his extraordinary thing over Dalton
in this and so Dalton's gonna feel the pressure. He's
gonna force something at some point in time, and there's
gonna be times when when things don't look good, like
he's more dependent upon the play calling of Matt Nacky
and Bill Laser, which hasn't been that good in order
to be able to win. And I think the biggest

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point you brought up was the fact that they don't
have much of a running game. They really don't. And
it look credit the Buffalo Bill's defense. That looks like
a playoff team. It looks like a deep team. Like
I told you this when I was back with the
Seattle Seahawks in two thousand thirteen, I could look around
that that field and go, there are guys who are
two deep, three deep that are gonna be starters somewhere else.

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You know, it's my seventh year in the league. I've
been around long enough, seen enough to go, these guys
know exactly like these guys know how to play, and
they're fast, they're talented. They don't make this team, They're
gonna make another team. And that was pretty much how
it went like outside of I think Antoine Winfield junior
or senior um who ended up retiring like pretty much

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everyone else, is on another roster you got released. I
mean it was it was that competitive and that good
of a roster top the bottom of the preseason. The
Bill's roster has a lot of fields to that, and
so it just it felt like a stark contrast between
one team that's trying to compete potentially for a Super
Bowl and one team that's just trying to figure it
every everything out. You know, it's it's like when you

(10:33):
first go to college. There's a lot of kids going
to college right now. It's like the kid who you know,
you walk into me, your your your roommate, and the
guy's already got his entire room set up. He's already organized,
he knows everything is that he's ready to dominate come
week one. You would call him a nerd. He would
call you his his future employee, because you're gonna be
working for him one day once he starts a company.

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Because he's got everything planned out, he's got everything on track.
And meanwhile you walk in there with a sleep being
bag and a bag of funyans and you're just trying
to figure out life. You know, you're all my parents
aren't here anymore, I don't have a curfew, I get
to go out and eat a bunch of sugar in
and maybe drink some alcohol and hang out with all
my friends and play video games all night. That's essentially
the Chicago Bears versus the Buffalo Bills. It was so bad, man.

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And look, we talked about the Eagles Patriots game from
last week, me, you and LaVar, and it was like, look,
we know it's just a preseason game, but there's a
there's a certain look to preseason games that just don't
feel right. That one didn't feel right at all in Chicago,
like that one felt that felt bad for the Bears.
So jokingly, you kind of projected little Chicago Bears fan

(11:39):
based thing on me. You follow the Bears for a
long time, You've got family in Monmouth, Illinois, and I'll
spare you all the rest of that. That's a good point, yeah,
But but the truth is you've got a team. Because
I always feel like the preseason can do this for
teams in one of two positions. Either a first time,
first year head coach if they're helping to build their

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culture and like introduced what that product is gonna look
like to their fan base. But then you've got a
head coach that's like on the ropes, and it can
also give you an idea of all right, is this
thing turning around or is it just is it just
sailing off to eventually sink into the sea. How did
you see this? Because I think the Bears are obviously
in category too, But how do you see this? As
a former Bears fan, Bears, whatever the hell you want

(12:21):
to call yourself as a Bears fan. It's it's it's bad, man,
like this this has been And here's the problem. You
came out of the first game against Miami and you thought,
all right, look, I mean, the offense wasn't great, Fields
wasn't awesome, but you saw some signs there that made
you think, you know what, he's got an athletic ability.
He's able to do things that no other Bears quarterback

(12:41):
has really ever been able to do in the history
of the franchise. So they won the game, and nobody
cared so much about that. But it was like, all right, hey,
good week. Andy Dalton's very confident. What did Andy Dalton say?
It's my time now? And you just felt like, hey,
listen it. Eventually Justin Fields is going to be his job.
But at least you got a confident starter in front
of him, and then they roll out that on Saturday

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and it was special teams. Defense, offensive line play was crummy. Uh,
quarterback play was spotty, and and you just you come
away from that game going, what the here we go again?
What the hell is happening like this? This is this
is what this team has been. And you and I
have talked about this before. Matt Naggy was hired because

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he was an offensive guru. He was the guy who
who called plays for half a season in Kansas City
and and then got all this praise and all this love,
and they their offense has gotten progressively worse every year,
every single year, and he's supposed to be an offensive guy.
And I just the idea was all right, John Fox

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didn't work. You wanted to go in a different direction
and bringing a young, innovative offensive guy, and their offense
has gotten worse. I just don't see how you feel
good about this team going into the season. I'm sorry, man.
Outside of field starting Week one, which is the only
way you can really feel optimistic, because I think he
can and again, he can change the dynamics of this offense.
He can make things easier from Matt Naggie and Bill Laser.

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Outside of that, there's not much really to be excited
about if you're a bassment. And I know we're talking
about the quarterback position. But the glaring thing that I
came away, and maybe we could talk about this here
in the next segment, is how bad the defense was
that that used to be your calling card? That was
what like when Matt Nagee got there, the one thing

(14:27):
you felt like you could say, at least early on,
was man, we've got a super Bowl caliber defense. We've
got clear mac, We've got all these players. And again,
I I know not all all the top end guys
are gonna play, but still that's the side of the
football you should be able to hang your hat on.
And uh, there was one guy who came back into
town and he had himself quite the day. Oh yeah,

(14:48):
God of what just just a wonderful story for the
whole family. Just a wonderful, wonderful story. This this is
out cap the coverage. He's Brady Quinn. I'm on this Knox.
That's how kicked the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up top of next hour a little over ten
minutes from now here on FS are. Uh, there's a

(15:08):
there's some fool's gold going on in the NFL. There's
a team a lot of people feel good about. Yeah
it is, Yes, I'm not buying it. There's some missing
details from some of the reports that you are arguing
being fed by many people in the media. We will
get to the truth on all of that coming up
a little over ten minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio.

(15:30):
So we have uh, you know, obviously we've got games
going on throughout the NFL, these preseason games. We've got
to a Monday night game coming up later on. It's
gonna be a lot of fun to discuss and look
back on. Uh. And we also had a game, a
couple of games yesterday. The late game was the forty
Niners and the Chargers. Now, who cares who actually won

(15:50):
the game unless it's a situation like Chicago, which turned
into a morgue based on how the Bears looked on Saturday.
But the conversation still continue and us when it comes
to Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo and um, apparently Kyle
Shanahan he is not ready to name Jimmy Garoppolo the
starter here he was after the game. Are you gonna

(16:12):
make an announcement. Is Jimmy Parpolo your starter Week one? No,
I'm not making that announcement. Let's try it whenever I
feel like it. Not to night. Good for him, you know,
good for Kyle Shannon. That sounds like a guy who
really wants to get to the cooler beer they got
on the bus or wherever. That That's what that sounds like. Um, look,

(16:35):
he can say whatever he wants. Jimmy Garoppolo is going
to be the starting quarterback, and he should be the
starting quarterback. I'm with you, he should be the starting quarterback.
I am a little bit baffled though you mentioned Fool's Gold.
I thought the forty niners, you know, people kind of
going out to the West coast in search of gold.
I really thought that was what you were setting me
up for here. I thought you were referencing the media

(16:58):
and the forty nine and what they're selling with the
idea of tree Lance starting week one being the fool school.
Is that not what you're going for? My overthink this one. No, listen, No,
but now that now that you say it probably is
more applicable to this quarterback situation than it is the
other one that we're going to get into the top
the next hour. Like this, Look, I understand blow that
a little bit. You may have just kind of nost

(17:22):
not not completely. I've I've done worse, trust me, but
like this this idea. I know we're excited about these
young quarterbacks and all that, and everyone is excited about
the potential of Trey Lance. Garoppolo is a better quarterback
right now, and everybody wants him out of town. And
I don't understand why you can't just acknowledge. Listen, Trey
Lances time is gonna come. But right now, Jimmy Garoppolo

(17:44):
is the starting quarterback and he should be the starting
quarter Tray Lance looks exactly as I thought he was
going to. Look a guy that has a strong arm.
He's athletic. We really even haven't haven't seen them utilize
that part of his game yet. Uh, And that's it.
I mean, he hasn't played a lot of football, and
it hasn't started a lot of football. You know. I
think he even go back to his high school years,

(18:07):
he only started like a year and a half or
something like that, only started a year in a game.
During his time in North Dakota State, and that was
a couple of years ago. So he looked rusty. He
didn't look comfortable in the pocket. You could you could
see him double clutching a number of times. And when
you see a quarterback kind of look like he's going
to throw and then pull back and then decided to

(18:28):
throw again. That sort of indecisiveness comes from him not
trusting what he's seeing. The game is moving too fast,
and I could promise you out there now, if he
feels like preseasons moving too fast, he's gonna feel like
they're moving at light speed once they get into the
regular season. So this is this is not sudden that's

(18:50):
going to get better with a snap of your fingers.
It's gonna take him a lot of time. Could he
be put in their situationally to run the football? Sure,
although Jimmy garrow a lot of nice little scramble you know,
if you're watching the game for a first down. I'm
not saying that he's as athletic as as Trey Lance is.
But the truth of this situation is what you said,

(19:11):
Jimmy Garoppolo is best suited to help this team get
back to another Super Bowl, try to win one. But
that's their best chance right now. Trey Lance is a
strong arm, he's got athleticism, he's a he's a hard workers,
smart kid and all that, but he needs a lot
of work, a lot of development. Now, he had some
nice throws, you know, hit a wide open wide receiver
down along the right, you know, right sideline. Uh, ended up,

(19:32):
you know, putting a nice ball for a touchdown. Really
the second touchdown to Travis Benjamin, not the first one. Uh.
He was wide open. But when you break everything down,
what you see is you see as a guy who's raw,
he's talented and needs some work, needs some development. There's
no hiding this. They can act like they are all
they want. I would be absolutely shocked if Trey Lance

(19:54):
started week one. I don't think that he has any
business being in there right now. I think he would struggle.
I think they might lose some games early if that's
the case, and put themselves out of contention for the
playoffs this year because of those mistakes. Unless they just
run run the football the entire time and mixing some
plash and shots to help protect him a little bit. Okay,

(20:14):
let me ask you this a quarterback question. Do you
learn because they always said you know it, maybe you know,
sit him, let him watch, just so you can get
acclimated to the NFL. Does that actually help you, Like
if you're sitting, if you're standing on the sidelines, are
you able to take in the game in a different
way that makes you more prepared when you finally are
becoming a starter. It's not taking in the game, it's

(20:36):
taking in everything. It's understanding how to prepare, understanding how
to how to prepare, watch film, what defenses are trying
to do, and learning the offense. Like when they're saying
that to you, it's so when you get out there,
you're not thinking. It looked like when Trey Lance got
out there, he was still thinking. He was still trying
to see what he's supposed to see and not and
he's not even anticipating yet, which is really what you're

(20:58):
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(21:43):
o'clock Pacific right here on fs ARE, and we do
so with the pride of Dublin, Ohio. A man who
called out a quarterback who made a team because of
a trick shot video on YouTube, the one and only
Brady Quan. I mean, I'm just I'm is telling your story.
I mean, it's truthful the way that all worked out.

(22:04):
But yeah, and then we used to call him trick shot. Uh,
that's that nickname pretty much stuck with him on the
rest of his career for the most part. By the way,
if you're wondering what we're referencing, you can check out
the podcast at Fox Sports Radio dot com after the
show is over. Because you know, Brady played with that
was that Alex Tanny? Is that Alex? Yeah, the the

(22:24):
trick shot quarterback from Monmouth. The you know, I don't
know if you know this's not I have family from Monmouth.
I don't know if you will wear that, do you really?
I never knew that you haven't mentioned in almost every
single show I just dating back probably five years. I mean,
I just you know, I just wanted you to know that,
you know, small town guy here from the Midwest, you
can't relate. I mean, you're not from Monmouth, Illinois. You

(22:45):
just have family there. That doesn't mean you're from there. Okay,
why Earp was born there too? Do you know that?
Wide Arp? Also from what you've you've also told me
that about seventeen times a new audience. You know, I
never know, Like you know, listeners, they come and go,
it's drive time and they're heading in. Um, you know what,
they probably will hear though. If they're driving in at
some point, they're probably gonna hear about man. Oh Man,

(23:07):
did Zach Wilson look good? Man? Who that's Zach Wilson?
He looked good, Brady Quinn, I mean he is. He
has shown up. He is going to be the savior
in New York. Uh, you know, move over, Sam Donald,
take a walk, Mark Sanchez, Bye bye Browning Nagel, Because
Zach Wilson is your starting quarterback for the New York Jets,

(23:29):
and damn he looked impressive against the Green Bay Packers
over the weekend, who were by the way, resting thirty
two players. But never mind all that, it is the
Zach Wilson Show, Brady, and he looked on fire over
the weekend. I'll tell you one thing. He looks like
he's got a good connection with Corey Davis, which is
a good sign. Corey Davis was one of the big

(23:50):
fridge and acquisitions coming from Tennessee, had a career year
last year, and Davis looked good versus the backups of
the Green Bay Packers got open for him number of times.
It seems like they had a solid connection. But again,
this is one of those deals where the media wants
to hype it up, and it's the New York media
fan base. It's everyone else who's trying to sell you

(24:11):
a subscription to come by whatever they've been selling you
this entire offseason, to get you to buy it for
the regular season when those games count and all that stuff.
I thought, for the most part, though, uh, it was
better than what he did. You know that in the
first preseason game, the protection was better, but that's that's
to be expected when you're going up against a bunch

(24:33):
of backups in the preseason where not many teams are
blitzing outside of the Buffalo Bills, who nearly took Justin
Field's head off at one point, which which we should
probably get back into at some point. Um No, I
thought he made it a couple of good throws, but
for the most part is pretty easy. You know, the
first touchdown though, Like this is what people aren't gonna

(24:53):
tell you if you're just a box score reader or
you just see the highlight, all right, because you know
what the highlight doesn't show the green a Packers backups
on defense almost failing to get lined up. So there
was a bunch of there's a bunch of miscommunication and confusion,
and guys were kind of running around to get lined up,
and the Titan obviously kind of runs Tyler Croft, who's
who did a good job for him in this game.

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He ends up finding his way through the middle of
the defense. And I'll promise you this that throws Zack
Wilson made, if it happens in the regular season, it's
either intercepted or that tight end needs a new set
of ribs because he's getting a shot to the midsection.
Because there's no way you're gonna see a starting middle

(25:38):
free safety like that backup five yards into the end zone.
He'll be standing flat foot on the goal line. He'll
be breaking on anything in front of him, and so
instead of being a little bit late, that at a
minimum would be a pass breakup if not intercepted. So again,
good thrower for fitting then in there versus some backups.
There's a little confusion before the play actually started. There

(26:00):
your first touchdown, well, let's talk about the second touchdown.
The second touchdown was off of a boot. He basically
hit Croft in the flat. Croft made a guy miss
poor tackling, and he gets in the end zone. Without
those two touchdowns, it's probably about two throws in there
that you go, okay, those are good balls. The scramble
where he hit Corey Davis on the sideline. Oh, I
forgot about that one. That big game. Also a confusion

(26:22):
between the safety and cornerback on that side of the field.
That's how Corey Davis got wide open. So look, I'm
not trying to take away from what Zach Wilson did.
He went out there and executed. He took what the
defense gave him, and he distributed the football well, the
problem is the New York media fan base, all right,
or the the New York fan base and the media
and then anyone else out there is gonna hype it

(26:44):
up like it was an all world performance and it
really wasn't. So you gotta pump the brakes a little
bit and lower your expectations because come Week one, it's
gonna look a lot different than what that box score
looked like versus the Packers and their backups. I might
have a buddy, good by to you of mine who's
a Jets fan, and like he's like, not not one
of these die hard you know, got to keep up

(27:06):
to date on on every single piece of news that
comes out, but like he's a legitimate Jets fan, lifelong
Jets fan. And I was with him while the game
was on, and I've never seen him this excited about
a quarterback. And I just don't get it. I I don't.
I And I hope it works out and it's it's
nothing against Zach what, But I just I don't. I

(27:28):
don't know why this is any different than Mark Sanchez
or Sam Donald, Like I I don't know what's different
about this. And on the touchdown that you mentioned, where
they couldn't get lined up. I mean he threw behind him. No,
I mean, like like I understand, but like, like, wasn't
he he did to protect him, you know that? And
that's that I'm a hunter. Started fine with that because

(27:50):
he kind of felt like there's gonna be a safety there,
he was gonna get hit, so he kind of put
in a spot where he could you could catch it
and then get into the end zone. So again, it
was a good throw. It was iced to show that
sort of touch right, but enough pace to get it
there in time. But free safeties are not taught in
that position to be standing in the middle of the
end zone, because what good does that do? You? You

(28:12):
stand at most maybe a order too deep, and you
come up to make plays in the football because you
don't have to worry about getting beat over your head.
You're in the red zone, You're you're down around that
area of the field where no one's gonna be able
to run past you. You're already deeper than the deepest
so he should be playing more flatfooted. He wasn't ended
up making it an easy uh you know, pitch and

(28:32):
catch for a touchdown. Yeah, I I just look, I
mean I hope it works out for him, but there's
a real excite And I don't know if this is
Robert Sala the fact that he's there. I don't know
if there's this this new regime. But if I'm not mistaken,
and I know that we were working together when this
draft took place, If I'm not mistaken, Sam Donald was
a higher rated prospect than Zach Wilson, Wasn't he correct

(28:56):
out of high school? And then you can make the
case to depending on who you ask um, you know,
maybe even coming out in the draft. Uh. Look, the
bottom line is if you look at their experience both
in college, Sam Donald, you know, checks off more boxes
as far as his size, the intangibles delevery played at
I think the only concern you had with him was

(29:16):
between the two years he started. You know, his second
year turned the football over a little bit too much,
which was almost like the Jamis Winston deal, where Jamis
Winston did too his final season at Florida State got
to the NFL. Couldn't kick that habit, you know, I
don't know that Sam Donald's biggest issue has always been turnovers.
I think the part of the issue with him has
been he's had to be able to make ridiculous plays

(29:38):
in order just to be successful. And and he's a
guy that look only played one drive. But he looks
pretty comfortable and confident in Carolina right now. So I'm
really curious to see how he'll pan out this year. Yeah,
I mean you also, you forgot the one most important
detail from Sam Donald's time with the Jets. I mean
you forgot to point it out, Oh the motto. Yeah yeah,

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And we're just gonna we're gonna be fair here. Let's
you know, we gotta tell the whole story. I think
that's you know, that's part of the story from from
Sam Donald's time in New York. I'm just saying, you know,
I mean, but but again, you know, he continues to
be the most protected guy by the media. I'll just
ask you this, if Baker Mayfield got Mono in downtown Cleveland,
he would be ripped apart for weeks on of course,

(30:19):
of course. I mean, look, he sees a spaceship and
he tells people and they can't believe or they cannot
rip him apart on radio. It's unbelievable. But do you
do you think he actually saw UFO? I mean, as
as we usually would say, if LaVar was here right now,
it might have been the weed. Yeah, it might be
we we don't know. I mean, you know, I mean

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it could have been that. That is that that is
a very fair point. But now listen, Zach Wilson. Hey, look,
and the fact that if I'm if I'm a Jets coach,
that bothers me. That Green Bay at thirty two players,
that bothers me, because how are you supposed to get
a true gauge on how how your team do? Like,
I don't know if if you're Robert Sala, I don't

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know that you come away from that game totally enamored
with what Zack Wilson did, just based on the fact
that there were backups and all the other issues that
you saw on the field when it came to, you know,
getting lined up, and all the other miscommunication green Bay had.
I just don't know how you walk away from that game.
If you Robert Salad, I'd be a little bit bothered
that one team barely fielded a roster while your quarterback

(31:22):
is out there trying to learn the ropes of the NFL.
That would bother me. You know, I need to see
I need to see real I need to see a
real game if we're gonna get ready for the season.
I think what would bother me if I'm Robert Salo
is the fact that you know they were they were
competitive versus the backups of Green Bay. I mean, think
about that for a second. This wasn't the starters. You know,

(31:43):
this is them going out there giving their best shot
versus a Green Bay Packers team who was resting all
their guys. That's what would bother me if I'm a
Jets fan, because i know they're all excited about it,
and and they're like, they're only focusing on their team
and what their team is doing, and so they they're
not epping back and looking at the bigger picture, Like
they're not stepping back and looking at Green Bay having

(32:04):
a hard time getting lined up or whatever else goes
on on the offensive side of the ball for Green Bay.
But my point is, like they're they're they're just competing
with the backups of Green Bay, not the starters. The backups.
That's a problem. If you're an NFL team and it's
a competitive preseason game versus a bunch of backups, you
should be dominating them. They should look like a bunch

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of the other blowouts that we saw, and there were
a lot of them in preseason, which maybe is his
own topic of itself, like is that concerning to you?
But it should have looked like Tennessee versus Tampa Bay,
or Denver versus Seattle, or New England versus Philly, like
we saw in this path past a week of of
a preseason football. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Outkicked the coverage week days at six am Eastern three
am Pacific. It is pure and total disrespect for one franchise,
peer disrespect from maybe the greatest player in the history
of their franchise. We will get to that here coming
up in about ten minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio,

(33:07):
Brady Quinn, how about that? How about that for a
team that's a big time tease? Damn right, that is
a big time tease. And that's why I love doing
the show with you. It's because you will say things
that I'm even curious to see where the hell the
show is going to go. That's very good. I mean
I don't even have a clue where we're going, and
I always feel like we've got this nice structured outline
where we think the show might go, and then you

(33:29):
throw out there a tease. I'm going, okay, we went
off the rails, all right, we're just jerking this car
right into the ditch. Yeah, listen, now it's the scraps man.
You know, these are these stories in the world of
sports and beyond, and there's you know, just pure disrespect.
I think we can call the scraps. They're also sometimes
the holdovers from Animal Thunderdome, which I don't so we
always acknowledge that it's it's the holdovers from that as well. Yes,

(33:52):
because if we don't have time to get to those stories,
those are good stories. Anytime you can you can spotlight,
you know, an alligator like biting someone's arm off, you know,
inside a pit. Danny G. I think that's fair. Anytime
we can spotlight some of those stories, I think that
there's nothing wrong with that, you know. I feel like
I feel like we're doing our due diligence here, especially
when they're rated PG. Thirteen stories. It give an edge.

(34:15):
That's why that's why we lead with the morbid stories first, right,
the ones where I don't know a chimpanzee chimpanzee pizza
its owner to death. There's something like, I mean, they
haven't known to do that from time to time. All right,
most Yeah, the things you discover on this show. And
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(34:35):
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limitations apply. The Baltimore Ravens have won nineteen straight preseason games.
Make it makes sense. I don't get it. I don't
understand what's happening. It's not like Lamar Jackson is played.

(34:55):
But they clearly clearly really put an emphasis on winning
preseason football games. Because they've won nineteen in a row,
they've tied the all time record. The Baltimore Ravens cannot
lose in the preseason. I don't understand. Make it makes
sense for me. Well, here's here's one way. So Eric
da Costa, their general manager, I think he's done a

(35:16):
good job. And even before that, Ozzy knew from their
general manager of being able to have a team that's stacked.
I mean, they have a roster that is talented. It's
deep with talent. Uh, that's a lot of especially an
early in preseason games and back when there was four
preseason games, you've got guys who are second and third
stringers who are starting and playing in those games. So

(35:38):
I think they've had a very consistent run of talented
deep rosters that have played a portion of this nineteen
and o streak that they're on. That's one reason for it.
I think their scheme in general offensively at least of
late uh and whether Lamar Jackson in there or not,
has played a portion of it. Um. But you know it,

(35:59):
look when Joe Flacco is there, which is when I
believe this this streak first started. Uh, you know, he
played a factor that he wasn't running the football quite
the same. So I think back then the difference was uh,
their backup play about there just to overall ability to
run the football, even if it was your traditional design
run game. And the last thing I'll just say is
they have been a defensive minded team and that's really

(36:23):
what got them. You know, you can make the case
that have won them both to super Bowls. They've won
since you know, Baltimore came back as the Ravens. But
you could make the case that that's what's led them,
that's still what was what makes them special and keeps
them in games. It's it's been their defense. That will
always be their defense. Uh that's what to me, They'll

(36:44):
always be mess best known for. I understand what lamar
winning an m v P as dazzling as he can
as he can be offensively, When we look at this team,
we don't question their ability to play defense right now.
We question their ability to throw the football effectively. Their
wind seevers those positions. Uh So, I think the third
thing is always they have been a solid, sound, fundamental

(37:06):
defensive team for a long long time. And that really
speaks to I think how this organization identifies themselves. But
they're they're clearly though for whatever like John Harbaugh and
you you've talked about this with Pete Carroll, and I
don't know that that's the case anymore with Seattle based
on you've seen. Yeah, I just like, I mean, nineteen

(37:27):
in a row that that's incredible. It's I mean, we're
talking about it right now. I mean show here, we
are talking about it, making it a big dec alright, Alright,
he kiss my ass all right, But here here's all
all I'm saying. Is this all right? As we as
we move on to next week and listen, I just
I thought it was worth pointing out it's nineteen straight games.

(37:49):
As we move on to next week, they're taking on Washington.
You don't think Ron Rivera is going to go out
of his way to try and make sure he puts
an end of that streak. I don't. I don't. I mean,
I think everyone wants to win, you know, no matter
what you're playing. There's just some coaches who are, you know,
maybe more willing to go for it on fourth down
more often, or be more aggressive, or go for two

(38:11):
as opposed to just kicking the p A T. Which
is always interesting to me. Like this time of year,
I know you want to get more reps with some
sometimes those backups or maybe it's a starter for for
for that matter, running a two point player running those plays.
I would actually say, though, if I've had questions about
my kicker, and clearly the Ravens don't, but if I
had questions about my kicker, I'd much try to go

(38:32):
for a p A T every time, like I would
go for a field goal, even though it might be
like a fifty seven yard field goal and I don't
know if you can do it. I'm still going for
it just to try to see if my kicker is
gonna be legit for us this season, as opposed to
going forward on fourth down to see another rep with
my offense. Like that's one of the more interesting things
that I think plays out over preseason that I'm like, dude,

(38:55):
if you're not sure about your kicker, make that guy
get out there and kick as much as possible. Like, yeah,
I could see a you know, a two point play
or a fourth down play anytime I want, in practice
or a competitive scenario, it's gonna be somewhat similar to
a game. For kickers. There's never a time, or I
should say almost rarely ever a time we're in practice

(39:16):
you will get a full speed kick rush and they
actually try to block it. Almost never happens, and so
it's it's very rarely similar to the kicking scenario you're
getting practice to a game, as it is a fourth
down scenario, you're putting a backup quarterback in. So the
side tangent, I know, but again that's just one of
the many things I focus A mistake over the course

(39:37):
of the preseason. Brady Quinn Jonas knocks here on Fox
Sports Radio. I mean, are you glad we talked about
the Ravens. I know you've been clamoring for the whole show,
so I know you wanted to point you know, it
was a stat that I was completely completely unaware of
until you brought it up. And now I just I'm
so thankful we got that off the list of things
to talk about here. I mean, Baltimore Ravens preseason win

(39:57):
streak that has that it matters is zero, wasn't it?
The both the Lions and the Browns, and the seasons
they went owen sixteen, both went four now in the preseason. Yeah,
and that's why this stuff matters. I mean, that's why,
it's why, that's why it matters, That's right. I just,
you know, but I wanted to make sure because you know,
they always say play the hits. I know, this is

(40:18):
one of your top hits coming in. This is one
of our top story. This is the top I'm trying
to look through the notes a sense, right, yeah, right
right there at the top, right there at the top,
and you see me pointing with my little finger. I'm
pointing right at it. I do see is that is
that a finger? Interesting? Um? Well, I guess not all
the same? All right, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox here, I'll

(40:40):
kicked the coverage Fox Sports Radio. I do I think
this is worth mentioning Jamaar Chase and Pine Sewell. You
know they're gonna be uh sort of tied together because
of Cincinnati's decision to take Jamar Chase. Are they gonna
be tied together? Well? Just well, I tied together. Listen,
you know you don't don't worry about how I tie things.
But they are tied together for the conversation here because

(41:04):
Jamaar Chase has not had himself a very good preseason.
He had three drops lost, all are dropped, all three
targets over the weekend. He had one catch the first game,
and now he has gotten the let's keep track of
drops in practice status. Zach Taylor is still, you know,
pretty high on him. But you know, you got a

(41:24):
quarterback coming off the the knee injury from a year ago.
They make the decision to take him instead of Pine Sewell,
who's got you know, he's got his own problems going
on in Detroit right now. According to Brady Quinn. But
Jamaar Chase is now getting the let's count how many
drops he has in practice treatment from people in the media,
So things are not getting off to a hot start
there for the rookie wide receiver at l s U.

(41:46):
Did you see the quote from Zack Taylor on down
on him. Yeah, we just we just expected our series
to catch the football. And I was like, well, yeah,
I think we all do. But uh, you know the
funny thing about this is and I was thinking about
the pick and when it happened, and you're an eye
discussion is one of the most rewarding things. And playing

(42:10):
quarterback is standing tough in the pocket, delivering a throw
knowing you're going to get hit, okay, knowing you're going
to get hit, but getting the football off to one
of your receivers who catches it and makes a big
play down field. Like there's there's something almost like gratifying
about getting up from that hit, being like, that's right,
give me your best shot, and I'm gonna deal one

(42:32):
even worse. You know what makes that hit feel that
much worse is if it's a perfectly thrown ball and
the guy drops it. So I was thinking about like
the scenario of Jamar Chase out there and like they're
wishing they had a guy like the Nasto on the
offensive line, but they don't. And then Chase is like
dropping the football's downfield. But like the guy took off

(42:54):
last year and played football in a while. Um, you know,
he's showing a little bit of rust. Nay Sewell who
you mentioned, you could call a rust if you want.
The issue with pinnay Seul right now, with what I've
seen in his first two preseason games is they moved
him from left tackle to right tackle. He's a young player. Okay,
didn't play football last year. It took it off, but

(43:15):
he's a young player at that played and started as
a true freshman at Oregan. I would have not moved
him to right tackle. I think this is a terrible experiment.
I'd make an older veteran guy do that. I would
put him a left tackle where he's more comfortable and
then go from there. Because he he looks uncomfortable. It
doesn't look like he's as powerful as stable switching, which

(43:38):
is his kick leg, and it's kind of his you know,
his base, and it looks like he's almost um it
doesn't look unorthodox to him. It just it doesn't look natural.
And I think this is gonna be a work in progress,
which is not what you want to see. You know.
I think that would have been better off, you know,
having a veteran guy move over to right as opposed
to you know, putting pin Ay so a left tackle,

(43:59):
where I think he'd been much more comfortable. So either way, look,
both rookies they sat out last year. They've got off
to a slow starts. I think they'll be fine, but
maybe that extra preseason game, that extra time and some
live game reps would have helped them prepare for Week one.
And this segment had your fingerprints written all over it.
Coming up here and we will call it fifteen minutes

(44:19):
from now, there is a real disappointment, real disappointment over
an NFL decision that was made over the past several days.
I've got the proof and the evidence, and we will
get into that here fifteen minutes from now on Fox
Sports Radio. I mean, I know, uh, you know what
I'm talking about, Brady, So well, yeah, I know exactly
what you're talking Yeah, you know what we're going with that,

(44:41):
all right? Right now? From a a segment that Brady
Quinn was all over to a segment that we do
on the show called this how could you not get
to these stories? Are there scraps? And for that we
turn it over to our execut a producer, Danny g

(45:01):
to find out what the hell we've missed so far
on the show. D alright, fellas are apologies to Scott
Shaperro and any other Timberwolves fan who may be listening
right now. KG. Kevin Garnett will become the twenty four
player in Boston Celtics history to have his jersey retired.
It is going to happen March thirteenth, when Boston hosts
Dallas at t D Garden on ABC. Of course, I

(45:23):
don't need to run down the big tickets resume here
for you guys. But Boston originally made this surprise announcement
at halftime of a game between the Celtics and Clippers
back on February that Garnett's number five jersey was gonna
be retired, But because of COVID, it's been pushed to
March thirteen. I mean, hold on, so six years wait,

(45:48):
his number is not retired in Minnesota, Dott, Do I
have that easy there's like there's bad blood between him
and uh Timberwolves brass and I apparently, and don't quote
me on this, but I think he was choose putting
in a bid to try and buy the Timberwolves. Um,
there was some bad blood for years with the the
owner of the Timberwolves, and then he tried to buy

(46:10):
it and it didn't go through. And it's just it's
been an awkward situation through and through for him. Bad
spot to be in, you know. I mean they did
win a championship though, and uh, if my recollrection serves correct, Okay,
was it not like the slogan for Adidas at the
time that he was supposed to say impossible is nothing?

(46:33):
But he botched it right, He said like anything is possible.
Was it? Was it Gatorade or Adidas. I'm pretty sure
it was Adidas because I remember training around that time
when they won out in Arizona and there was a
big Adidas sponsorship at that athlete's performance and it said
impossible it is nothing, and I was like, well, I
would never forget this. Probably even concussed if I if

(46:55):
I had actually say that to make sure I got
the slogan in. But somehow Kevin Garnett. Yeah, Adidas had
to change it to anything as possible. You guys, anybody
want to take a guess? Anybody want to take a
guess without cheating? Brady Quin has been known to do
this to cheat from time to time on this, But
anybody want to take a guess? Is to what his

(47:15):
career salary was? Kevin Garner his career earnings? Yeah, career
salary earnings? Yeah, I mean basketball players make so much,
like this is gonna be an astronomical I bet it's
it's got to be north of like three hundred million. Okay, Danny,
want to take a guess? Two hundred and twenty million? Okay? Roberto,

(47:38):
you want to take a guess to one plays? No
way he's making less than three or mill is Eddie
Garcia around, Eddie, you want to take a guess at this?
I'll do a Roberto Flores and say million. Dub you
want to take a shot, Dub and now sure you

(48:00):
want to take a shot at this? Kevin Garnett career earnings.
I gotta think it's north. Almost want to say, like,
who's who said five? Danny? Sorry? I almost want to
say it's gonna be like something, really, if it's not
that high, then I'm almost like, oh, maybe he didn't
make that according to according according to Basketball Reference, and

(48:25):
they point this out that this may not be this
may be incomplete, so there may be more out there.
But according to Basketball Reference, Kevin Garnett made just under
three hundred and forty four million dollars in his career.
Just think about that, dude, three hundred forty four million dollars.

(48:46):
And then if you just tack on sponsorships, even though
you know, botches the taglines like probably what another shoe deal?
Sponsorships million? Right? How many years did he play in Boston? Uh? Six?
And they won one championship? That yeah, one championship uh
and uh yeah, that's it. But apparently that's enough to

(49:08):
get your jersey retired. It's total disrespect to the tim
to the Timberwolf franchise. Why have they retired Tom Brady's
jersey and New England already? Then? I don't know, um,
like apparently they they're gonna stop, you know, giving out
like like Rob Gronkowski's jersey was now given out this year.
So some people were bothered by that. They thought they

(49:29):
should retire Gronkowski's number. But you know, I mean, she's
just give out the number twelve. Why not have Belichick,
have belichicker, you know, start the fire again. Why not.
We're gonna do it, all right. And finally, it's not
a thunderdome story, but it is a feel good story
where we need Brady Quinn's theme music. All Right, turned

(49:52):
out the music Cupper Berto because the headline is Irish
boys find message in a bottle from Canadian fisherman. All Right.
A trio of boys visiting an Irish beach found a
message in a bottle that crossed the Atlantic Ocean from Newfoundland, Canada.

(50:12):
Brothers Owison oh Doherty and again oh Doherty from Greencastle, Ireland,
were on a County Kerry beach near the Glen Pear
with their cousin when they spotted a bottle that was
along the coastline. The boys enlisted the help of their
relative to retrieve and open the bottle, which contained a
message that was written by Canadian fisherman Craig Drover. The

(50:36):
brother's grandmother posted photos of this discovery to Facebook. This
bottle was tossed over the side of the Arctic Eagle
on the Grand Banks of Newfoundland, Canada while fishing for
snow crabs. Drover wrote, the boys were able to get
ahold of this fisherman because he included his email address
on the note. Very modern. Their way to put a bottle.

(50:58):
Drover says he frequently tossed his messages and bottles into
the water during his fishing trips. One of his bottles
was previously discovered in by a surfer off the coast
of Spain. I mean you talk about it, You talk
about just like a dumb way to try and communicate
with people. You're you're gonna trust the ocean to deliver

(51:19):
your message. Are you serious of the ocean? John? Yeah,
Well that I wouldn't know anything. That's what he's trusting
to deliver his message the most of the Yeah, yeah,
the motion of the ocean. I love how we This
is like Ireland's version of Deadliest Catch. You know that
these kids find this message bottles. By the way, could
you not see him getting tuned up one night and

(51:40):
just ridding some terrible bottle that's tossing it overboard? Just
make up lies about people, Yeah, just like literally make
up lies about people. Lie about how long you've been there,
lie about the things that you've seen, you know, I
mean it's been done before in history. I don't know
if will know that or not. But you just lie.

(52:01):
I'm just saying you can lie about the stuff that's
out there and you know, really cause a lot of problems.
But yeah, the Ireland's Deadliest catch. How about that Brady
about Ireland? Good story about Ireland representing strong. Here, You've
got me tell you something, man, last five minutes of
this show has been all you, my friend. It's almost

(52:24):
like the Scottish Irish thing I told you about yesterday. Yeah. Yeah,