September 9, 2021 • 37 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar discuss Tua not being named captain in Miami, and the Deshaun rumors. LaVar says where there's smoke there's fire, and they give their Wild Card picks. Outkick's NFL insider Albert Breer joins the show to help kickoff the new season, and has all the latest from around the league! Plus, the AM debut of Prop Bet Monster!
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listening to Fox Sports Radio. So there's a story in
the NFL. I don't know if it's a big deal.
I mean, I've never been named this, I've never been
given this award, so I'm not sure if it's a
big deal, but it could be. And it's involving a
quarterback with a lot to prove this upcoming season. We'll
get into that here coming up just a couple of
moments from now. It is OutKick the Coverage here Fox
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Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the
here on FSR. You can hang out with us as
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doing so. We're taking you all the way up until
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific right here on FSR,
and it is our NFL season preview show. So we
will be coming up with our wild card picks. We
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gave out our division winners last hour. If you missed it,
you can check out the podcast after the show. But
we will make our wild card picks coming up later
on here shortly here on FSR. Now, I don't know
if this is a big deal. I've never actually been
named a team captain in any capacity whatsoever. Never once,
because in high school football, you got to actually play,
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from my understanding, in order to still be a team captain.
It's a long shot. Yeah, but but when you're awful,
long shot, that is the longest of yeah. And that's
that's a first for everything in my life. But I'll
just say this, it could always be injured with a
high ceiling. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a good point. Yes,
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that is a good point. I didn't think about it.
You shot off the field leadership, Yes, a lot of incentives, Audis. Yeah,
he's got some credentials and I don't. But that being said,
so we're gonna buch your us today like whoa whoa
whoa bro' you're not hold on cap So twa tug
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of Iloa has got a lot to prove going into
year two, as an NFL quarterback. And I don't know
if this is if I'm just reading too much into this,
but he wasn't named a team captain all right, now,
Trevor Lawrence was named a team captain. He's never played
a snap in the NFL. He was named team capta well, yeah,
I mean, I mean, look, look before you even go
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into were just every team does it differently. Okay, I
don't know how Brian Flores and his staff concocted this,
and I don't know what LaVar thinks, but a lot
of times, like even if the players voted, the coaches
are gonna do what they want to do. So I'll
put it that way, like I don't know that everyone
voted Trevor Lawrence as the captain how that all went,
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But he's the starting quarterback, like they're gonna make him
that guy even if he hasn't earned a yet or
he's not the guy yet, None of that matters. What's
significant about it if he's not is the fact that
it's just one less thing where it's less awkward if
they were to bench him or move on from him,
right Like let's say, for example, before the trade deadline,
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they make a move for Deshaun Watson, like it looks
it looks less awkward, right if you're if you've got
that guy who's captain, you got to talk about it
and all the stuff. But if that circle, if that
situation was to play itself out, it's just a little
bit less awkward right to then throw the sea on
that guy's chest. So I'm sure there's some Dolphin fans
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who want to see him earn it. The coaching staff
may say they want to see him earn it, maybe
some teammates if that's how they voted. But I just
I look at this and I say it's not overly
surprising considering how Brian Flores has handled things so far
with Tua, and you know, even so he's come out
and said he's our guy, he's our guy. It's just
it still seems like until the trade deadline and even
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after the season, like, I still think there's the potential
chance of them doing something if they don't feel confident enough,
and when what he brings well, you ultimately have to
look at at this team and the scenarios that could
play out for Tua being connected ultimately to them wanting
to take a definitive step in the direction of this
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is a division that's up for grabs right now. I
mean we can say that it you know, it's it's
the Bills time and they're going to dominate, and we're
probably right, but it's still considered to be a division
that's up for grabs. So when you think about how
close the Miami Dolphins could be right now to what
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it is they're able to get accomplished, if they're not
confident in the most important piece to that puzzle being
able to deliver, then you would have to believe that
they're being very, very aggressive behind the scenes trying to
figure out how they can rectify that problem as quickly
as they possibly can. I just know this, when you
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hear a lot of speculation about something, whether it's true,
there's some truth to it, there's This is what I've
learned in media. If you continue to hear something that
is along the lines of this is the storyline that
continues to march forward. Mac Jones could be the starter.
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Did you just guy see how much that picked up?
Mac Jones could be the starter? When will Mac Jones start?
Ken cam Newton maintain the position. A lot of people
are frustrated about the whole Cam and COVID thing, Da
da da da da, wherever the truth was and all
of that, it ended out playing out that mac Jones
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ended up being the undisputed starter for this team. So
the idea that you continue to hear things about Tuah
and how okay there has been the support that has
been given to him from flora As. He comes out
We like character guys. He gave him a glowing endorsement
of the type of guys they want in Miami. But
didn't Bill Belichick, which isn't not where the coaching tree
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that flora As comes from. Didn't Belichick kind of do
the same thing with Cam? He was he was a
champion of Cam. Yeah, and next thing you know, Cam
isn't on the team. So I think you could take
what coaches say at face value. I think he does
believe what he's saying about Tuah, and I think he
does represent him well in that regard. But if there's
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somebody that's going to make the Dolphins a better team
and gives flora As an opportunity to take over that
division that's up for grabs, which he has a team
that's good enough to be able to take the bull
by the Horns, so to speak. Then you got to
believe that if a Deshaun Watson is available that there
and if they're working on that right now they're trying
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to figure out if that trade takes place, you have
to assume that Miami felt comfortable and confident that Deshaun
Watson would come in and be ready to play pretty
much the moment he sets foot in South Beach. Here's
what I don't get though, is you drafted to UH
like you didn't have to. You could have even traded
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back and you could have gotten more picks for a
team that I think was viewed in a rebuilding year
or at least in that mode, Like you didn't have
to take him, and they still ended up taking him
with the injury concerns and everything else. Like that's what
I don't understand about them not buying into two UH
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and how they handled things last year with them, Like
you supposedly had done all this evaluation on the player,
you'd seen him play. It's not like he hadn't been
at the college level for a number of years and
you couldn't dig up information on him, and yet you
still decided to pull the trigger on him and then yet,
well you have buyer's remorse already. Lad, we're I mean,
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after a year, we're like statistically looking at it and
even watching some of the tape, Like I understand some
of the concerns, but he's a rookie. Like, you can't
compare his learning to curve to Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert
was a four year starter at Oregon. He played his
entire career true freshman. All that was from Eugene. I mean,
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it's an entirely different set of circumstances. And mind you,
you know, Herbert played his best football as last year,
but he never made it to the stage that TUA did,
playing a national championship and the SEC and all those
matchups we saw. So I just I think it's just
odd to me that they would so quickly want to
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move on from a guy that the same coach, the
same general manager. That's there, you made the decision, like
right you already, you already are going to be second
guessing this dude, my bed, give him a chance. We
got hip, my bed. Let me try to get did
we say to us? Let me I'm not crazy right now, guys, listen,
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and if they walk away from him, after first of all,
he came off the injury last year. It was a
devastating injury. Comes off the injury, it's it's a COVID year.
So it's not like everybody had the exact proper times
to get prepared for a season. And you know, he
didn't play that bad. He wasn't He wasn't justin everybody
wasn't that bad. If they walk away from all of
that after a year for some guy who's got twenty
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two plus complaints for going to the grab lab and
they want to bring him as their franchise quarterback and
they will to me that that is a that's a gutsy,
gutsy call. And I just I mean, if I'm ta
at this point, get the hell out of there, man,
Like I mean, if they're not going to show faith
in you in a regular season game, you just gotta play.
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Though Jonah, I understand can't, but like you can't like
get the hell out of there is like kind of
like how do you force your way out? Like I
think the way you get the hell out of there
is about playing well or if by them bringing into
Shawn Watson then he's gone, well, that's not getting the
hell out of there. You're getting kicked the hell out
of there. I mean, but at this point, like different,
every different, every everything is telling him it's like the
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different treat leaving the club and getting kicked out of
the club. Yeah, but you know what, it depends on
what they handles that. Two completely different, two completely sir.
We'd like to help you to your car. Yea great,
thank you. When you get the way you're kicked out,
it's like, yeah, there is no conversation dragging your ass,
shut up. Yeah, it's just it's just very different. Yeah
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it is, you know it's yeah, it is. It is
very different here highs and lows. Yeah, absolutely definitely, LaVar.
I'm glad you see glad you see the same TV
I do neither, but many what's the weather like out there?
You know it's raining? Z's that's what it is. Uh?
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All right, Hey, we want to get into our wild
card picks. You guys ready to start to throw it out?
Some wild card picks? Yeah, three of them again, we've
got three wild card picks in the AFC at NFC.
Brady quentn you're our leadoff hitter here on out kicked
the coverage, Go right ahead, sir, let me start off
by saying this. I was shocked. Like again, I went
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through this whole thing. I went through week by week,
game by game, shocked and how this turned out. In fact,
I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't like it
all right, but but I did this. I went through
every week of the season, every matchup, and this is
how it came out. I got the Steelers and Browns
at tenant seven, neither of which are making the playoffs. Wow,
I know I don't feel good about it. And so
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uh one of the playoff teams is coming out of
the AFC East. That's the New England Patriots to the
eleven and six. I don't like it. I don't think
they're gonna be a wildcard team. I don't. I think
it's gonna be Pittsburgh, Cleveland or maybe both those teams.
But again, I just for the sake of this show,
I want to stay true to you guys. So I've
got the Patriots, the Chargers who had a great season
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by my thirteen and four, and then the Broncos at
eleven and six, which I think they could be because
I'm betting I'm my man Teddy b because they got
a stacked roster. But those are my three teams, the Patriots, Chargers,
and Broncos. I'm a bit surprised, to be honest with you, though,
and I don't feel great about it. Interesting. I'm gonna
go with the three bs is my wild card teams.
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I'm gonna go with the Cleveland Browns. I think their
roster they're two stacked. I like Baker Mayfield. I don't
think he's a top five or ten quarterback, but clearly
he can play. But I like the Cleveland Browns. I
have them getting in over the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just
there's still question marks for me when it comes to Pittsburgh.
I've also got the Buffalo Bills being a wild card team.
Now you're probably asking yourself, what Bill's a wildcard team? Well,
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if you want to know who won the division, you
can check out the podcast if Fox Sports Radio dot
com because it will be there of after the show's over.
And then I too have the Denver Broncos getting that
final wildcard spot. I like the Chargers. I like the
Chargers a lot. But here we go again. Austin Eckler,
some sort of little issue pops up at practice yesterday,
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and I just wonder if we're going to see a
little bit of a sophomore slump, and maybe Justin Herbert
isn't the Justin Herbert everybody thinks he's going to be
this year because of the crowds and because of being
in PAC stadiums. I wonder if that's going to be
an issue. So I like the Browns, Bills, and broncoissed
to the PAC twelve Pact twelve football where no one's there,
come on listen just because they play in that? Was
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it the PAC twelve championship game? How many people were there?
Like you and Joe Davis called the game? Was there?
That was like an annual thing for us. Yeah, we
were like trying to give away tickets before the game.
I'd be walking around trying to give it away to
people here. Please please come to the game. Please. You
can sit right there, lay there next to the field.
Please come to them. Bring your empty seat costume too.
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You can blend right up with everybody else. So there
it is. My wild card picks lebar air sticks with picks. Yeah, man,
I'm I'm gonna go with the Titans. I'm gonna go
with the Dolphins. And I'm gonna go with the Ravens
car teams. All right, So you think the Dolphins, that
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team with quarterback not named team captain, is gonna be
the It's gonna be a wild card. I think they're
a good team, and I think that they are again,
I think that they're a team that will be competitive
for for the division. I think they'll keep up. So
I had them at nine and eight. But you know
what the difference was, while they weren't a wild card
team for me, I hadn't to and four in the division.
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So that's where you and I differ. I think the
Patriots will be better this year, and obviously the Bills
are gonna be good. But I think that's the difference
for them is if they do better in the vision,
like you think, they're probably a wild card team with
the way I ended up. By the way, why is
it fair that Brady gets to use some playoff predictor things.
I said it to you guys the link, but she
did send it. But nice. I just feel like my
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mind kind of yeah, I agree, it's pretty good. Yeah,
I agree with all that. In fact, it's different. In fact,
they should have a link that says LaVar's brain for
the playoff predictor. Yeah they should. You know, you'll see
you'll see hamster wills, turbles, herbals and hamsters. Know this
is this is LeVar stop process on how it works.
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I can go seek for some people when it comes
to those props. See the little ball going down, the
little things all the way making it all the way
to the bottom, the little silver ball. Based on some
of the other stuff we said each other, that's not
too far off. You guys remember that gang called what
was it? Where you you pull the thing back and
you shoot the ball into the pinball machine. Yeah, that's
how my that's how my mind works. Man. I was
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always I get thoughts coming towards me. I hit the side,
I got my little flippers boom, I got a couple
of extra flippers higher up on. Yeah right, I'm going
for the high school. If I was score, I was
terrible at pinball. Where you really, I don't know why
where you are? Were you guys valent pinball players or
where you just like just straight strategic like I was
more of a Golden tea guy like gold golden. But
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what I'm saying is like Valent, Valent pinball machine players
are the ones that shake the pinball machine look like.
Some people are very courtesy, courtesy driven, like they'll just
hit hit the thing, dadada. But some people are like
and they shake it and they shake it and they
shake it, you know, and it's I mean, I don't
you guys, I don't know if you're really into working
at or anything. But in between games, I used to
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lift the pinball machine up to get did you did
you ever keep hitting your flippers knowing that the ball
had already gone down and probably was over, but in
some weird, strange way, you thought that there might be
an extra ball, so you kept hitting the flippers because
you knew the flippers would stop once your turn was over,
like once your game was over. Yeah, that's what that
Charger security guard was doing on the sidelines a couple years. Yeah,
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two ball corner. Fox. All right, it is OutKick the
coverage here on Fox Sports RADI why do you make
me talk this? This is OutKick the coverage. Alright, it
is OutKick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas, Noxy The Heere on FSR coming up
later on this hour. The debut of the propet Monster.
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All right, you don't know what that is? Yeah, just
to lock in. We're gonna have some fun with that.
But right now, Albert Brier MMQB, senior NFL reporter joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert, Happy NFL season
to you and yours. It's finally here. Yeah, And I
don't know what the hell was going on? There was
that like you with only stuff they selling stables or
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something like that. Yeah, it was. It was an office
materials Uh there you go, Yeah, yeah it was. It
was an awful bottom of the hour update, is what
it was. Let's just call it that our I get Okay,
I gotta ask you. So Patrick's certain real deal in Denver? Yeah,
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I mean, I think all indications are that he's come
as advertised, and you know, I think the physical ability
everybody knows, you know, what he's bringing to the table there.
It's just how quick he's picked up the defense. And
I guess you'd expect that from a guy who you know,
is the son of a former All Pro corner and
played for Nick Saban at Alabama. But that's a complex defense,
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tough defense to play in on the VIC Fangio runs
there in Denver and the fact that they're able to
move him around as much as they have been already
as a rookie. I think it's been eye opening for
some people there. And so you know, the Broncos are
setting up as an interesting team. The quarterbacks obviously still
a question, but they have a lot going for them
in a lot of different places. And you know, not
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to spend this thing too far ahead, but if you
look at them, it's not that far off from where
they were, you know. I mean, Brady, you'll remember this
because you are on the team in eleven when they
had a lot of like good young players coming together
and it really set up for Peyton Manning to step
in in twenty twelve, where Denver could wind up being
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a really attractive destination for an Aaron Rodgers or Russell
Wilson or Deshaun Watson in twenty twenty two. Well, that's
why I was going to lead to next, because we
know this about the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston. He's
not playing week one to Rod Saylor's a starter, He's
probably not going to be active. Nick Assario, they're general manager,
study they're gonna take you a week by week. What's
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your guests as far as how this plays out. Does
he stay on the roster for the rest of the season,
do they trade him before the deadline? How do you
foresee this thing working out? Yeah, Brady, I think if
somebody was going to pay the market price, they would
have paid it by now. And I think if the
Texans were going to take any stort of discount, they
would have taken the discount by now. So I think, really,
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you know, this is sort of in a holding adder
until there's some clarity from you know, the league and
some clarity from the legal system. And I mean, look
like I'm not going to litigate innocence or guilt. I
don't know, you know, I like, I mean that that's
gonna have to play itself out. And I mean, I
think one thing that's sort of interesting here is, you know,
my understanding is like there was a i'd say, like
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a reasonable you know, settlement, Like there's a reasonable reasonable
idea of a settlement out there. And my understanding of
the way that that all went down was DeShawn really
wanted to kind of what really wanted to prove his
innocence and if that's the truth and he really doesn't
want to settle. This is gonna take a long time,
you know, And if this thing's hung up in the
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course through the season, I don't know that any team's
going to step up with a sort of offer that
the Texans are going to would accept. And I just
haven't gotten any sort of indication whatsoever that Nickssario is
going to take anything less than what he would have
gotten into Annuary or February before the lawsuits were filed.
To move to Shawn Watson, what are you working on?
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What are What's what's the most relevant story you're working
on right now as it applies to the league storylines,
because there are so many that are developing. What do
you think is the most relevant? I mean, I just
think LaVar the unsettled, the kind of like unsettled situation
of quarterbacking across the NFL. To me, that's really what
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it is. And you know, I can't remember a season
when we went in where you know, you had superstar
quarterbacks and there was such huge questions on where they're
going to be the following year, you know, and it's
not like we knew, like you know, I mean, we
knew had an idea like that Brady could move on
from the Patriots, But I don't know if people really
thought that was as real as it was going into
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the nineteen season. And like Peyton Mann and we, I
don't think anybody thought he was not going to be
a cult in twenty twelve and twenty eleven, and so like,
I think the fact that you got the Shawn's name
out there, the fact that you got Aaron's name out there,
the fact that Russell Wilson's situation could go back to
where it was again last January this January. I just
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think that that makes this so interesting because so many
of these I think quarterback situations couldn't look different a
year from now, and so many of them look different
now than they did touched here where you got Carson
Wentzon Indianapolis, Sam Darnold and Carolina obviously Matthew Stafford in
Los Angeles. So I just think Leavar, the biggest story
in the league right now is how unsettled the quarterback
situation is. And if you want to take it to
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kind of a broad stroke level, like why all this
is happening, I honestly believe that like a big part
of it is sort of the Mahometization of the NFL,
where a lot of teams are looking at the quarterbacks
that have made it to the final stages, and you know,
you look at Josh Allen and Buffalo, Tom Brady and Tampa,
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you know Patrick in Kansas City the last couple of years,
and obviously Aaron in Green Bay. I think a lot
of teams are looking at that and saying, like, and
we really climb the mountain with the quarterback we have.
And so I think that's why you've seen teams like
the Niners start to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo, like
La move off of Jared Goff. I think it's just
the bars raising at the position. And I think that's
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created sort of an unsettled environment across the NFL. Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter for the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knoxell, bar Arrington Brady quick with
you here on FSR. What do you think happens with
TJ Watt situation with the Steelers. I mean, look like
so like I always think like it's always dark as
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before the dawn with these contract situations. So you know,
I think there's gonna have to be some level of compromise.
The Steelers have really strict rules about what they do
with contracts. They were willing to bend those rules for
Ben Roethlisberger years ago. They said at the time, we're
doing this because it's the quarterback. We won't do it
for anyone else. I think they're gonna have to bend
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a little bit to get t J. Watt done. At
the same time, I think t J. Watson have to
come off a spot a little bit. You know. It's
just it's one of these where, you know, I think
like the deadline of Saturday could wind up getting the
sides to find some level of middle ground. And the
Steelers have been here before. You know, They've got David
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Decast done right on the day before the season. They
got Stephan to It done right on the day before
the season. They got Troy Polamalo in twenty eleven done
right on the day before the season. So I think
there's a chance Friday or Saturday you're hearing about t J.
Watt getting a deal done. But I would say that
it's going to take a fair amount of compromise from
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both sides to get there, because I don't think they're
that close right now, Albert, Are you concerned it all
that to its song of Vlow is not a captain
down there in Miami. I mean, it's gonna be an
interesting matchup, just to contrast where mac Jones is year
one in New England and those two teams squiring off.
But does that concern you? Does that lead you to
think that, hey, maybe something may happened down the road
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this season? I'm yeah, I mean I'd be at least
a little concerned. Bright. I mean, like, like, look like,
let's call it what it is, you know. Like I
think in a lot of cases, like coaches will make
their quarterbacks captain if there's any way to do it right,
Like so, like say you want five captains in the
quarterbacks the sixth leaving vote getter. I think a lot
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of cases a coach will say, all right, well we're
going with six captains then, you know, because you want
your quarterback to feel the way to that, you know, leadership.
And I like, I look in New York and Zach
Wilson's a captain as a rookie, And I look in
Jacksonville and Ummer Lawrence as a captain as a rookie,
So I mean, we can explain it away, like however
you want to explain it away. I think it's at
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least a little like I got my attention. I know that,
what do you think, Brady, because you were a quarterback,
I got my attention that he's not one because I
would think, like if I wouldn't want to throw a
support behind the guy, like then like you find the
way to do anyway doesn't go the way? Yeah, I
think I think, yeah, I think I think that be
one way that my quick answer to would be. You know,
he could say whatever he wants to behind the scenes
privately to the team, but that would be one way.
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But I also know that maybe he wants him to
earn that, you know, maybe he feels like it hasn't
been earned yet. There's that New England culture there. That's
the only wild card that I don't know. But to
your point, and we mentioned this earlier, and levard knows this,
like if the coaching staff wants to be a captain,
you're gonna be a captain, especially at the NFL level, right,
It ain't college where they're actually gonna have these all
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these players vote like none of that matters, right, right,
And I just I don't know like I would think,
you know, and I think like one thing that like
one thing I know about Balichick, and I think I
think Flow is the same way. Like they those guys
always sort of have an idea of what their team needs.
And you know, I know this with Bill, Like a
lot of people have this idea of Bill and like
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the guys who work with him as like just being
tough on people all the time, right, And I think
one of the things that Bill does well is and
again I think Flow is the exact same why am
Miami is Like they know when a guy needs to
be knocked down, and they know when a guy needs
to be picked up a little bit, and they know
when they need to you know, put a guy in
his place, and they know when they need to elevate
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a guy. And I just like, look at where Tua
is and after having such a weird first year and
then you know, going into year two and on the
doorstep of his second year, he's finally the starter and
they finally and they and I think they got rid
of Fitzpatrick in part because they didn't want that hanging
over to uh, Like he's finally there and now like
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he's got an answer for this, So I just I
don't know. I just it just kind of struck me
as a little strange, and it made me wonder if
something's going on there now. I haven't heard that there is,
but you know, I would think that, like just having
a feel for the situation, I would think, if you're Flores,
you would want to try to build the guy up
a little bit based on everything he's been through and
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show confidence in him to the rest of the locker room. Oh,
we're talking about backs, and obviously mac Jones being the
starter in New England, what's the probability of them being
able to win their division with a rookie quarterback? I
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think Buffalo is gonna be really good. So like I
might be the wrong person to ask on that, LeVar,
just because I have Buffalo in the super Bowl, So
like the Patriots failing to win of the division to
me wouldn't be a failure. I mean, I I just
I think that much of where Josh Allen is going
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into going into the year you joined in the year four,
I know, like what the league thinks of him. You know,
I'm doing a poll of and right now I've got
sixty ballots back. It's like head coaches, general managers, offensive coordinators, quarterbacks,
coaches director. As a player of personnel, Josh Allen is
a very solid third right now among all quarterbacks in
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that poll, behind only Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, ahead
of Tom Brady. So I think they're I think Buffalo
is in for a very big year. But I think
the Patriots, like, to me, the formula is right there
for them, and you know, I think we're all focused
on on Mac and what Mac can do. I think
so much of this is going to be how the
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rest of the team can lift him up and what
the formula is. The formula to me is the same
as it was in two thousand and one when Brady
was the starter for the first time. It's keep him
out of long distance or keep him out of long
yard and situations consistently, don't have him playing from behind.
And they have the tools to do that because, like
I look at it, once they get Steph Gilmore back
in October, I think they've got a chance to be
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an elite defense. I think they've got a top five
offensive line and they've got a really good sale back
in Damian Harris, and so all the tools are there
to take the pressure off him and play the game
a certain way where he isn't in third and fifteen
and he isn't playing from two or three touchdowns down.
I think that's going to be the formula for them
this year. And I think if they dropped Matt Jones
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into that sort of scenario, it'll sort of mirror what
he had at Alabama, get him feeling more comfortable. I
think that would be a good way to get him rolling.
He is Albert Brier, MMQB, senior NFL reporter, always kind
enough to join us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert always appreciate it, man.
We'll do it again next week. Thanks big, all right,
thanks all right, thanks guys, And I got to apologize
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for last week. I was a little hazy. So hopefully
this one a little better for you guys. I like
last week better. I like last week better, but he
was a little frisky. If you guys want, if you
guys want last week back, I can maybe I can
accommodate that. Yeah, a little get a little Brier on
the rocks. That's all right, good stuff. We'll talk to
(30:44):
you suit, He's he's one of the best. Albert Brier
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Then the first prop bet this week it's Cowboys and
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key member of the Bucks. Last Super Bowl win shown
in attendance. First, here are your options. Is it Brad Johnson,
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Derek Brooks, Warren Sap or Barrett Robbins. All right, so
key member of the Bucks last Super Bowl winn. Alright,
you're gonna go a Warren Sap on that? All right?
So Brady Quinn go ahead and make your pick. Oh man,
I'm gonna go with this is tough. I thought you're
gonna say Derek Brooks. I'm gonna take Brooks. I think
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that's probably the one that's going to be to winner.
I think either either. Here's the thing is Sap was
at that Old mississip. I think his son plays on
Old Miss right, So I know he was at that
game Monday night because Lane Kiffin was saying that he
He's like, yea Sap was the one coaching or something.
He gave him all the credit for the win. Nobody.
I think it might be Derrick Brooks. Nobody's taking the
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Barrett Robbins bait there. Nobody's gonna take that one. No,
it was Tony Robbins apart. There we go, all right?
Next up, first close up shot after kickoff? Is it
Tom Brady's knee without the sleeve? Dak Prescott's ankle, Jerry Jones,
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or a player or coach wearing a mask, it's going
it's going to be Dak Prescott. See you think Dak
Prescott's ankle is going to be the first shot after kickoff?
Now this is after kickoff, it's going to get the ball.
I mean, his ankle is going to be in the
shot right close up. This depends Like you're right, Brady,
I think you're right. But but honestly speaking, yes, you're right,
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but I think the first close up of significance is
going to be Dak Prescott. Okay, all right there it
is all right, Brady. I'm gonna say Tom Brady, because
I do feel like it's whoever gets the ball. And
so you got a coin flip like I'm not I'm
not sure how I mean, how do you do the
mas ask thing like if you show someone in the
crowd with the mask on that I mean, listen, I'm
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on the judge, Jerry. And next, I just don't want
us to this from your bright All right, So next
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you think it's early on. Yeah, all right, so you're
gonna go early on from you can't disagree with I
can't disagree withul for he's a huge Dallas fan. It's
got to be the under here, right, for good or
for bet he's going to cap something. Here we go,
first touchdown scored by a wide receiver, by a tight end,
or by a running back. It's going to be a receiver. Okay,
(35:52):
so touchdown pass them. See I was going to say that,
I don't want to keep agreeing with them. Sensibility is sensibility, alright,
I'm gonna say receiver for this reason too. Let played
a lot more three wide receiver sets, so just by
sheer numbers, you're gonna have a better chance of a
wide receiver getting Now. So final one here. This is
the debut edition of the propet Monster. Final pick four
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tonight's game between the Bucks and Cowboys players. Jersey worn
by a Cowboys fan caught fighting on camera, and here
are your options. All right, So what jersey will they
be wearing? Is it Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Darryl Moose, Johnston,
Tony Romo or is it a Tony Romo Jersey. That
says Jim Nance misses working with Phil Simms. Oh that,
(36:40):
I'm asking, how did you leave Daz Bryant off of
that list? Though? Look, I would assume a Dazz Bryant
Jersey member is going to be likely to be something
off the menu. LeVar, what are we doing here? Oh no,
let's let me look if he's right, he's right, let
him go with Yeah, let me go with Dazz. Listen,
it's it's the whodes to the last crap, Brady, I'm
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gonna say c Elliott. I'm woulda say dak Press guy.
So there it is. That is the just I went
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the NFL. I don't know if it's a big deal.
I mean, I've never been named this, I've never been
given this award, so I'm not sure if it's a
big deal, but it could be. And it's involving a
quarterback with a lot to prove this upcoming season. We'll
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and it is our NFL season preview show. So we
will be coming up with our wild card picks. We
(01:06):
gave out our division winners last hour. If you missed it,
you can check out the podcast after the show. But
we will make our wild card picks coming up later
on here shortly here on FSR. Now, I don't know
if this is a big deal. I've never actually been
named a team captain in any capacity whatsoever. Never once,
because in high school football, you got to actually play,
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from my understanding, in order to still be a team captain.
It's a long shot. Yeah, but but when you're awful,
long shot, that is the longest of yeah. And that's
that's a first for everything in my life. But I'll
just say this, it could always be injured with a
high ceiling. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a good point. Yes,
(01:49):
that is a good point. I didn't think about it.
You shot off the field leadership, Yes, a lot of incentives, Audis. Yeah,
he's got some credentials and I don't. But that being said,
so we're gonna buch your us today like whoa whoa
whoa bro' you're not hold on cap So twa tug
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of Iloa has got a lot to prove going into
year two, as an NFL quarterback. And I don't know
if this is if I'm just reading too much into this,
but he wasn't named a team captain all right, now,
Trevor Lawrence was named a team captain. He's never played
a snap in the NFL. He was named team capta well, yeah,
I mean, I mean, look, look before you even go
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into were just every team does it differently. Okay, I
don't know how Brian Flores and his staff concocted this,
and I don't know what LaVar thinks, but a lot
of times, like even if the players voted, the coaches
are gonna do what they want to do. So I'll
put it that way, like I don't know that everyone
voted Trevor Lawrence as the captain how that all went,
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But he's the starting quarterback, like they're gonna make him
that guy even if he hasn't earned a yet or
he's not the guy yet, None of that matters. What's
significant about it if he's not is the fact that
it's just one less thing where it's less awkward if
they were to bench him or move on from him,
right Like let's say, for example, before the trade deadline,
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they make a move for Deshaun Watson, like it looks
it looks less awkward, right if you're if you've got
that guy who's captain, you got to talk about it
and all the stuff. But if that circle, if that
situation was to play itself out, it's just a little
bit less awkward right to then throw the sea on
that guy's chest. So I'm sure there's some Dolphin fans
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who want to see him earn it. The coaching staff
may say they want to see him earn it, maybe
some teammates if that's how they voted. But I just
I look at this and I say it's not overly
surprising considering how Brian Flores has handled things so far
with Tua, and you know, even so he's come out
and said he's our guy, he's our guy. It's just
it still seems like until the trade deadline and even
(04:07):
after the season, like, I still think there's the potential
chance of them doing something if they don't feel confident enough,
and when what he brings well, you ultimately have to
look at at this team and the scenarios that could
play out for Tua being connected ultimately to them wanting
to take a definitive step in the direction of this
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is a division that's up for grabs right now. I
mean we can say that it you know, it's it's
the Bills time and they're going to dominate, and we're
probably right, but it's still considered to be a division
that's up for grabs. So when you think about how
close the Miami Dolphins could be right now to what
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it is they're able to get accomplished, if they're not
confident in the most important piece to that puzzle being
able to deliver, then you would have to believe that
they're being very, very aggressive behind the scenes trying to
figure out how they can rectify that problem as quickly
as they possibly can. I just know this, when you
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hear a lot of speculation about something, whether it's true,
there's some truth to it, there's This is what I've
learned in media. If you continue to hear something that
is along the lines of this is the storyline that
continues to march forward. Mac Jones could be the starter.
(05:39):
Did you just guy see how much that picked up?
Mac Jones could be the starter? When will Mac Jones start?
Ken cam Newton maintain the position. A lot of people
are frustrated about the whole Cam and COVID thing, Da
da da da da, wherever the truth was and all
of that, it ended out playing out that mac Jones
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ended up being the undisputed starter for this team. So
the idea that you continue to hear things about Tuah
and how okay there has been the support that has
been given to him from flora As. He comes out
We like character guys. He gave him a glowing endorsement
of the type of guys they want in Miami. But
didn't Bill Belichick, which isn't not where the coaching tree
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that flora As comes from. Didn't Belichick kind of do
the same thing with Cam? He was he was a
champion of Cam. Yeah, and next thing you know, Cam
isn't on the team. So I think you could take
what coaches say at face value. I think he does
believe what he's saying about Tuah, and I think he
does represent him well in that regard. But if there's
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somebody that's going to make the Dolphins a better team
and gives flora As an opportunity to take over that
division that's up for grabs, which he has a team
that's good enough to be able to take the bull
by the Horns, so to speak. Then you got to
believe that if a Deshaun Watson is available that there
and if they're working on that right now they're trying
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to figure out if that trade takes place, you have
to assume that Miami felt comfortable and confident that Deshaun
Watson would come in and be ready to play pretty
much the moment he sets foot in South Beach. Here's
what I don't get though, is you drafted to UH
like you didn't have to. You could have even traded
(07:30):
back and you could have gotten more picks for a
team that I think was viewed in a rebuilding year
or at least in that mode, Like you didn't have
to take him, and they still ended up taking him
with the injury concerns and everything else. Like that's what
I don't understand about them not buying into two UH
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and how they handled things last year with them, Like
you supposedly had done all this evaluation on the player,
you'd seen him play. It's not like he hadn't been
at the college level for a number of years and
you couldn't dig up information on him, and yet you
still decided to pull the trigger on him and then yet,
well you have buyer's remorse already. Lad, we're I mean,
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after a year, we're like statistically looking at it and
even watching some of the tape, Like I understand some
of the concerns, but he's a rookie. Like, you can't
compare his learning to curve to Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert
was a four year starter at Oregon. He played his
entire career true freshman. All that was from Eugene. I mean,
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it's an entirely different set of circumstances. And mind you,
you know, Herbert played his best football as last year,
but he never made it to the stage that TUA did,
playing a national championship and the SEC and all those
matchups we saw. So I just I think it's just
odd to me that they would so quickly want to
(08:56):
move on from a guy that the same coach, the
same general manager. That's there, you made the decision, like
right you already, you already are going to be second
guessing this dude, my bed, give him a chance. We
got hip, my bed. Let me try to get did
we say to us? Let me I'm not crazy right now, guys, listen,
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and if they walk away from him, after first of all,
he came off the injury last year. It was a
devastating injury. Comes off the injury, it's it's a COVID year.
So it's not like everybody had the exact proper times
to get prepared for a season. And you know, he
didn't play that bad. He wasn't He wasn't justin everybody
wasn't that bad. If they walk away from all of
that after a year for some guy who's got twenty
(09:44):
two plus complaints for going to the grab lab and
they want to bring him as their franchise quarterback and
they will to me that that is a that's a gutsy,
gutsy call. And I just I mean, if I'm ta
at this point, get the hell out of there, man,
Like I mean, if they're not going to show faith
in you in a regular season game, you just gotta play.
(10:06):
Though Jonah, I understand can't, but like you can't like
get the hell out of there is like kind of
like how do you force your way out? Like I
think the way you get the hell out of there
is about playing well or if by them bringing into
Shawn Watson then he's gone, well, that's not getting the
hell out of there. You're getting kicked the hell out
of there. I mean, but at this point, like different,
every different, every everything is telling him it's like the
(10:28):
different treat leaving the club and getting kicked out of
the club. Yeah, but you know what, it depends on
what they handles that. Two completely different, two completely sir.
We'd like to help you to your car. Yea great,
thank you. When you get the way you're kicked out,
it's like, yeah, there is no conversation dragging your ass,
shut up. Yeah, it's just it's just very different. Yeah
(10:50):
it is, you know it's yeah, it is. It is
very different here highs and lows. Yeah, absolutely definitely, LaVar.
I'm glad you see glad you see the same TV
I do neither, but many what's the weather like out there?
You know it's raining? Z's that's what it is. Uh?
(11:12):
All right, Hey, we want to get into our wild
card picks. You guys ready to start to throw it out?
Some wild card picks? Yeah, three of them again, we've
got three wild card picks in the AFC at NFC.
Brady quentn you're our leadoff hitter here on out kicked
the coverage, Go right ahead, sir, let me start off
by saying this. I was shocked. Like again, I went
(11:35):
through this whole thing. I went through week by week,
game by game, shocked and how this turned out. In fact,
I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't like it
all right, but but I did this. I went through
every week of the season, every matchup, and this is
how it came out. I got the Steelers and Browns
at tenant seven, neither of which are making the playoffs. Wow,
I know I don't feel good about it. And so
(11:58):
uh one of the playoff teams is coming out of
the AFC East. That's the New England Patriots to the
eleven and six. I don't like it. I don't think
they're gonna be a wildcard team. I don't. I think
it's gonna be Pittsburgh, Cleveland or maybe both those teams.
But again, I just for the sake of this show,
I want to stay true to you guys. So I've
got the Patriots, the Chargers who had a great season
(12:20):
by my thirteen and four, and then the Broncos at
eleven and six, which I think they could be because
I'm betting I'm my man Teddy b because they got
a stacked roster. But those are my three teams, the Patriots, Chargers,
and Broncos. I'm a bit surprised, to be honest with you, though,
and I don't feel great about it. Interesting. I'm gonna
go with the three bs is my wild card teams.
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I'm gonna go with the Cleveland Browns. I think their
roster they're two stacked. I like Baker Mayfield. I don't
think he's a top five or ten quarterback, but clearly
he can play. But I like the Cleveland Browns. I
have them getting in over the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just
there's still question marks for me when it comes to Pittsburgh.
I've also got the Buffalo Bills being a wild card team.
Now you're probably asking yourself, what Bill's a wildcard team? Well,
(13:03):
if you want to know who won the division, you
can check out the podcast if Fox Sports Radio dot
com because it will be there of after the show's over.
And then I too have the Denver Broncos getting that
final wildcard spot. I like the Chargers. I like the
Chargers a lot. But here we go again. Austin Eckler,
some sort of little issue pops up at practice yesterday,
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and I just wonder if we're going to see a
little bit of a sophomore slump, and maybe Justin Herbert
isn't the Justin Herbert everybody thinks he's going to be
this year because of the crowds and because of being
in PAC stadiums. I wonder if that's going to be
an issue. So I like the Browns, Bills, and broncoissed
to the PAC twelve Pact twelve football where no one's there,
come on listen just because they play in that? Was
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it the PAC twelve championship game? How many people were there?
Like you and Joe Davis called the game? Was there?
That was like an annual thing for us. Yeah, we
were like trying to give away tickets before the game.
I'd be walking around trying to give it away to
people here. Please please come to the game. Please. You
can sit right there, lay there next to the field.
Please come to them. Bring your empty seat costume too.
(14:08):
You can blend right up with everybody else. So there
it is. My wild card picks lebar air sticks with picks. Yeah, man,
I'm I'm gonna go with the Titans. I'm gonna go
with the Dolphins. And I'm gonna go with the Ravens
car teams. All right, So you think the Dolphins, that
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team with quarterback not named team captain, is gonna be
the It's gonna be a wild card. I think they're
a good team, and I think that they are again,
I think that they're a team that will be competitive
for for the division. I think they'll keep up. So
I had them at nine and eight. But you know
what the difference was, while they weren't a wild card
team for me, I hadn't to and four in the division.
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So that's where you and I differ. I think the
Patriots will be better this year, and obviously the Bills
are gonna be good. But I think that's the difference
for them is if they do better in the vision,
like you think, they're probably a wild card team with
the way I ended up. By the way, why is
it fair that Brady gets to use some playoff predictor things.
I said it to you guys the link, but she
did send it. But nice. I just feel like my
(15:13):
mind kind of yeah, I agree, it's pretty good. Yeah,
I agree with all that. In fact, it's different. In fact,
they should have a link that says LaVar's brain for
the playoff predictor. Yeah they should. You know, you'll see
you'll see hamster wills, turbles, herbals and hamsters. Know this
is this is LeVar stop process on how it works.
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I can go seek for some people when it comes
to those props. See the little ball going down, the
little things all the way making it all the way
to the bottom, the little silver ball. Based on some
of the other stuff we said each other, that's not
too far off. You guys remember that gang called what
was it? Where you you pull the thing back and
you shoot the ball into the pinball machine. Yeah, that's
how my that's how my mind works. Man. I was
(15:55):
always I get thoughts coming towards me. I hit the side,
I got my little flippers boom, I got a couple
of extra flippers higher up on. Yeah right, I'm going
for the high school. If I was score, I was
terrible at pinball. Where you really, I don't know why
where you are? Were you guys valent pinball players or
where you just like just straight strategic like I was
more of a Golden tea guy like gold golden. But
(16:18):
what I'm saying is like Valent, Valent pinball machine players
are the ones that shake the pinball machine look like.
Some people are very courtesy, courtesy driven, like they'll just
hit hit the thing, dadada. But some people are like
and they shake it and they shake it and they
shake it, you know, and it's I mean, I don't
you guys, I don't know if you're really into working
at or anything. But in between games, I used to
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lift the pinball machine up to get did you did
you ever keep hitting your flippers knowing that the ball
had already gone down and probably was over, but in
some weird, strange way, you thought that there might be
an extra ball, so you kept hitting the flippers because
you knew the flippers would stop once your turn was over,
like once your game was over. Yeah, that's what that
Charger security guard was doing on the sidelines a couple years. Yeah,
(17:05):
two ball corner. Fox. All right, it is OutKick the
coverage here on Fox Sports RADI why do you make
me talk this? This is OutKick the coverage. Alright, it
is OutKick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas, Noxy The Heere on FSR coming up
later on this hour. The debut of the propet Monster.
(17:25):
All right, you don't know what that is? Yeah, just
to lock in. We're gonna have some fun with that.
But right now, Albert Brier MMQB, senior NFL reporter joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert, Happy NFL season
to you and yours. It's finally here. Yeah, And I
don't know what the hell was going on? There was
that like you with only stuff they selling stables or
(17:47):
something like that. Yeah, it was. It was an office
materials Uh there you go, Yeah, yeah it was. It
was an awful bottom of the hour update, is what
it was. Let's just call it that our I get Okay,
I gotta ask you. So Patrick's certain real deal in Denver? Yeah,
(18:07):
I mean, I think all indications are that he's come
as advertised, and you know, I think the physical ability
everybody knows, you know, what he's bringing to the table there.
It's just how quick he's picked up the defense. And
I guess you'd expect that from a guy who you know,
is the son of a former All Pro corner and
played for Nick Saban at Alabama. But that's a complex defense,
(18:30):
tough defense to play in on the VIC Fangio runs
there in Denver and the fact that they're able to
move him around as much as they have been already
as a rookie. I think it's been eye opening for
some people there. And so you know, the Broncos are
setting up as an interesting team. The quarterbacks obviously still
a question, but they have a lot going for them
in a lot of different places. And you know, not
(18:53):
to spend this thing too far ahead, but if you
look at them, it's not that far off from where
they were, you know. I mean, Brady, you'll remember this
because you are on the team in eleven when they
had a lot of like good young players coming together
and it really set up for Peyton Manning to step
in in twenty twelve, where Denver could wind up being
(19:14):
a really attractive destination for an Aaron Rodgers or Russell
Wilson or Deshaun Watson in twenty twenty two. Well, that's
why I was going to lead to next, because we
know this about the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston. He's
not playing week one to Rod Saylor's a starter, He's
probably not going to be active. Nick Assario, they're general manager,
study they're gonna take you a week by week. What's
(19:37):
your guests as far as how this plays out. Does
he stay on the roster for the rest of the season,
do they trade him before the deadline? How do you
foresee this thing working out? Yeah, Brady, I think if
somebody was going to pay the market price, they would
have paid it by now. And I think if the
Texans were going to take any stort of discount, they
would have taken the discount by now. So I think, really,
(19:58):
you know, this is sort of in a holding adder
until there's some clarity from you know, the league and
some clarity from the legal system. And I mean, look
like I'm not going to litigate innocence or guilt. I
don't know, you know, I like, I mean that that's
gonna have to play itself out. And I mean, I
think one thing that's sort of interesting here is, you know,
my understanding is like there was a i'd say, like
(20:22):
a reasonable you know, settlement, Like there's a reasonable reasonable
idea of a settlement out there. And my understanding of
the way that that all went down was DeShawn really
wanted to kind of what really wanted to prove his
innocence and if that's the truth and he really doesn't
want to settle. This is gonna take a long time,
you know, And if this thing's hung up in the
(20:44):
course through the season, I don't know that any team's
going to step up with a sort of offer that
the Texans are going to would accept. And I just
haven't gotten any sort of indication whatsoever that Nickssario is
going to take anything less than what he would have
gotten into Annuary or February before the lawsuits were filed.
To move to Shawn Watson, what are you working on?
(21:06):
What are What's what's the most relevant story you're working
on right now as it applies to the league storylines,
because there are so many that are developing. What do
you think is the most relevant? I mean, I just
think LaVar the unsettled, the kind of like unsettled situation
of quarterbacking across the NFL. To me, that's really what
(21:26):
it is. And you know, I can't remember a season
when we went in where you know, you had superstar
quarterbacks and there was such huge questions on where they're
going to be the following year, you know, and it's
not like we knew, like you know, I mean, we
knew had an idea like that Brady could move on
from the Patriots, But I don't know if people really
thought that was as real as it was going into
(21:48):
the nineteen season. And like Peyton Mann and we, I
don't think anybody thought he was not going to be
a cult in twenty twelve and twenty eleven, and so like,
I think the fact that you got the Shawn's name
out there, the fact that you got Aaron's name out there,
the fact that Russell Wilson's situation could go back to
where it was again last January this January. I just
(22:09):
think that that makes this so interesting because so many
of these I think quarterback situations couldn't look different a
year from now, and so many of them look different
now than they did touched here where you got Carson
Wentzon Indianapolis, Sam Darnold and Carolina obviously Matthew Stafford in
Los Angeles. So I just think Leavar, the biggest story
in the league right now is how unsettled the quarterback
situation is. And if you want to take it to
(22:31):
kind of a broad stroke level, like why all this
is happening, I honestly believe that like a big part
of it is sort of the Mahometization of the NFL,
where a lot of teams are looking at the quarterbacks
that have made it to the final stages, and you know,
you look at Josh Allen and Buffalo, Tom Brady and Tampa,
(22:52):
you know Patrick in Kansas City the last couple of years,
and obviously Aaron in Green Bay. I think a lot
of teams are looking at that and saying, like, and
we really climb the mountain with the quarterback we have.
And so I think that's why you've seen teams like
the Niners start to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo, like
La move off of Jared Goff. I think it's just
the bars raising at the position. And I think that's
(23:14):
created sort of an unsettled environment across the NFL. Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter for the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knoxell, bar Arrington Brady quick with
you here on FSR. What do you think happens with
TJ Watt situation with the Steelers. I mean, look like
so like I always think like it's always dark as
(23:36):
before the dawn with these contract situations. So you know,
I think there's gonna have to be some level of compromise.
The Steelers have really strict rules about what they do
with contracts. They were willing to bend those rules for
Ben Roethlisberger years ago. They said at the time, we're
doing this because it's the quarterback. We won't do it
for anyone else. I think they're gonna have to bend
(23:58):
a little bit to get t J. Watt done. At
the same time, I think t J. Watson have to
come off a spot a little bit. You know. It's
just it's one of these where, you know, I think
like the deadline of Saturday could wind up getting the
sides to find some level of middle ground. And the
Steelers have been here before. You know, They've got David
(24:20):
Decast done right on the day before the season. They
got Stephan to It done right on the day before
the season. They got Troy Polamalo in twenty eleven done
right on the day before the season. So I think
there's a chance Friday or Saturday you're hearing about t J.
Watt getting a deal done. But I would say that
it's going to take a fair amount of compromise from
(24:40):
both sides to get there, because I don't think they're
that close right now, Albert, Are you concerned it all
that to its song of Vlow is not a captain
down there in Miami. I mean, it's gonna be an
interesting matchup, just to contrast where mac Jones is year
one in New England and those two teams squiring off.
But does that concern you? Does that lead you to
think that, hey, maybe something may happened down the road
(25:00):
this season? I'm yeah, I mean I'd be at least
a little concerned. Bright. I mean, like, like, look like,
let's call it what it is, you know. Like I
think in a lot of cases, like coaches will make
their quarterbacks captain if there's any way to do it right,
Like so, like say you want five captains in the
quarterbacks the sixth leaving vote getter. I think a lot
(25:21):
of cases a coach will say, all right, well we're
going with six captains then, you know, because you want
your quarterback to feel the way to that, you know, leadership.
And I like, I look in New York and Zach
Wilson's a captain as a rookie, And I look in
Jacksonville and Ummer Lawrence as a captain as a rookie,
So I mean, we can explain it away, like however
you want to explain it away. I think it's at
(25:44):
least a little like I got my attention. I know that,
what do you think, Brady, because you were a quarterback,
I got my attention that he's not one because I
would think, like if I wouldn't want to throw a
support behind the guy, like then like you find the
way to do anyway doesn't go the way? Yeah, I
think I think, yeah, I think I think that be
one way that my quick answer to would be. You know,
he could say whatever he wants to behind the scenes
privately to the team, but that would be one way.
(26:06):
But I also know that maybe he wants him to
earn that, you know, maybe he feels like it hasn't
been earned yet. There's that New England culture there. That's
the only wild card that I don't know. But to
your point, and we mentioned this earlier, and levard knows this,
like if the coaching staff wants to be a captain,
you're gonna be a captain, especially at the NFL level, right,
It ain't college where they're actually gonna have these all
(26:26):
these players vote like none of that matters, right, right,
And I just I don't know like I would think,
you know, and I think like one thing that like
one thing I know about Balichick, and I think I
think Flow is the same way. Like they those guys
always sort of have an idea of what their team needs.
And you know, I know this with Bill, Like a
lot of people have this idea of Bill and like
(26:48):
the guys who work with him as like just being
tough on people all the time, right, And I think
one of the things that Bill does well is and
again I think Flow is the exact same why am
Miami is Like they know when a guy needs to
be knocked down, and they know when a guy needs
to be picked up a little bit, and they know
when they need to you know, put a guy in
his place, and they know when they need to elevate
(27:10):
a guy. And I just like, look at where Tua
is and after having such a weird first year and
then you know, going into year two and on the
doorstep of his second year, he's finally the starter and
they finally and they and I think they got rid
of Fitzpatrick in part because they didn't want that hanging
over to uh, Like he's finally there and now like
(27:32):
he's got an answer for this, So I just I
don't know. I just it just kind of struck me
as a little strange, and it made me wonder if
something's going on there now. I haven't heard that there is,
but you know, I would think that, like just having
a feel for the situation, I would think, if you're Flores,
you would want to try to build the guy up
a little bit based on everything he's been through and
(27:53):
show confidence in him to the rest of the locker room. Oh,
we're talking about backs, and obviously mac Jones being the
starter in New England, what's the probability of them being
able to win their division with a rookie quarterback? I
(28:14):
think Buffalo is gonna be really good. So like I
might be the wrong person to ask on that, LeVar,
just because I have Buffalo in the super Bowl, So
like the Patriots failing to win of the division to
me wouldn't be a failure. I mean, I I just
I think that much of where Josh Allen is going
(28:35):
into going into the year you joined in the year four,
I know, like what the league thinks of him. You know,
I'm doing a poll of and right now I've got
sixty ballots back. It's like head coaches, general managers, offensive coordinators, quarterbacks,
coaches director. As a player of personnel, Josh Allen is
a very solid third right now among all quarterbacks in
(28:56):
that poll, behind only Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, ahead
of Tom Brady. So I think they're I think Buffalo
is in for a very big year. But I think
the Patriots, like, to me, the formula is right there
for them, and you know, I think we're all focused
on on Mac and what Mac can do. I think
so much of this is going to be how the
(29:17):
rest of the team can lift him up and what
the formula is. The formula to me is the same
as it was in two thousand and one when Brady
was the starter for the first time. It's keep him
out of long distance or keep him out of long
yard and situations consistently, don't have him playing from behind.
And they have the tools to do that because, like
I look at it, once they get Steph Gilmore back
in October, I think they've got a chance to be
(29:38):
an elite defense. I think they've got a top five
offensive line and they've got a really good sale back
in Damian Harris, and so all the tools are there
to take the pressure off him and play the game
a certain way where he isn't in third and fifteen
and he isn't playing from two or three touchdowns down.
I think that's going to be the formula for them
this year. And I think if they dropped Matt Jones
(29:58):
into that sort of scenario, it'll sort of mirror what
he had at Alabama, get him feeling more comfortable. I
think that would be a good way to get him rolling.
He is Albert Brier, MMQB, senior NFL reporter, always kind
enough to join us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert always appreciate it, man.
We'll do it again next week. Thanks big, all right,
thanks all right, thanks guys, And I got to apologize
(30:21):
for last week. I was a little hazy. So hopefully
this one a little better for you guys. I like
last week better. I like last week better, but he
was a little frisky. If you guys want, if you
guys want last week back, I can maybe I can
accommodate that. Yeah, a little get a little Brier on
the rocks. That's all right, good stuff. We'll talk to
(30:44):
you suit, He's he's one of the best. Albert Brier
Here on Fox Sports Radio, this is I'll kicked the coverage. Hey,
it's Ben hosting The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller along
with my trustee sidekick David Gascon WITHOU meet a lot
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(31:06):
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is Game one of the NFL season kickers later on tonight.
So that here, oh man, coming up little ten minutes
(31:48):
from now here on Fox Sports radio. Are you guys
ready to take part in the debut of something here
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I have attempted on weekend overnight radio and it fails. Yeah,
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have a feeling that it may play a little bit
(32:10):
differently here. So without further ado, it's time for this, Yeah,
to feat your degenerate gambling soult monsters. So here we go.
I am going to I have put together prop bets. Okay,
(32:32):
prop bets for tonight's game. We can all play along,
but it'll be Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington, so it'll
be QB versus LB, with a host being a dB.
Here on Fox Boards Radio, were keeping keep well, yeah,
we're keeping school. So we're gonna we're gonna say to
score weekly. Yeah, well, who knows, I will see it
(32:52):
may not be, it may not be invited back for
another week set it is, of course you are. I
want to know the results, So let's get a start here.
Then the first prop bet this week it's Cowboys and
Bucks later on tonight. All right, so here we are
key member of the Bucks. Last Super Bowl win shown
in attendance. First, here are your options. Is it Brad Johnson,
(33:14):
Derek Brooks, Warren Sap or Barrett Robbins. All right, so
key member of the Bucks last Super Bowl winn. Alright,
you're gonna go a Warren Sap on that? All right?
So Brady Quinn go ahead and make your pick. Oh man,
I'm gonna go with this is tough. I thought you're
gonna say Derek Brooks. I'm gonna take Brooks. I think
(33:35):
that's probably the one that's going to be to winner.
I think either either. Here's the thing is Sap was
at that Old mississip. I think his son plays on
Old Miss right, So I know he was at that
game Monday night because Lane Kiffin was saying that he
He's like, yea Sap was the one coaching or something.
He gave him all the credit for the win. Nobody.
I think it might be Derrick Brooks. Nobody's taking the
(33:57):
Barrett Robbins bait there. Nobody's gonna take that one. No,
it was Tony Robbins apart. There we go, all right?
Next up, first close up shot after kickoff? Is it
Tom Brady's knee without the sleeve? Dak Prescott's ankle, Jerry Jones,
(34:17):
or a player or coach wearing a mask, it's going
it's going to be Dak Prescott. See you think Dak
Prescott's ankle is going to be the first shot after kickoff?
Now this is after kickoff, it's going to get the ball.
I mean, his ankle is going to be in the
shot right close up. This depends Like you're right, Brady,
I think you're right. But but honestly speaking, yes, you're right,
(34:41):
but I think the first close up of significance is
going to be Dak Prescott. Okay, all right there it
is all right, Brady. I'm gonna say Tom Brady, because
I do feel like it's whoever gets the ball. And
so you got a coin flip like I'm not I'm
not sure how I mean, how do you do the
mas ask thing like if you show someone in the
crowd with the mask on that I mean, listen, I'm
(35:04):
on the judge, Jerry. And next, I just don't want
us to this from your bright All right, So next
up here it is the propet Monster here on Fox
Sports Radio. All right, next up and all caps tweet
sent by Skip Bayliss over or under halftime under. So
(35:25):
you think it's early on. Yeah, all right, so you're
gonna go early on from you can't disagree with I
can't disagree withul for he's a huge Dallas fan. It's
got to be the under here, right, for good or
for bet he's going to cap something. Here we go,
first touchdown scored by a wide receiver, by a tight end,
or by a running back. It's going to be a receiver. Okay,
(35:52):
so touchdown pass them. See I was going to say that,
I don't want to keep agreeing with them. Sensibility is sensibility, alright,
I'm gonna say receiver for this reason too. Let played
a lot more three wide receiver sets, so just by
sheer numbers, you're gonna have a better chance of a
wide receiver getting Now. So final one here. This is
the debut edition of the propet Monster. Final pick four
(36:15):
tonight's game between the Bucks and Cowboys players. Jersey worn
by a Cowboys fan caught fighting on camera, and here
are your options. All right, So what jersey will they
be wearing? Is it Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Darryl Moose, Johnston,
Tony Romo or is it a Tony Romo Jersey. That
says Jim Nance misses working with Phil Simms. Oh that,
(36:40):
I'm asking, how did you leave Daz Bryant off of
that list? Though? Look, I would assume a Dazz Bryant
Jersey member is going to be likely to be something
off the menu. LeVar, what are we doing here? Oh no,
let's let me look if he's right, he's right, let
him go with Yeah, let me go with Dazz. Listen,
it's it's the whodes to the last crap, Brady, I'm
(37:02):
gonna say c Elliott. I'm woulda say dak Press guy.
So there it is. That is the just I went
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