November 23, 2021 • 38 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the Bucs win on MNF and wonder if we're destined for a rematch of last year's Super Bowl. Baker Mayfield is a red-ass about the win over the Lions and LeBron should have gotten more than a 1 game suspension but LaVar calls out Isaiah Stewart for being a fake tough guys.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with LaVar airing Brady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox four Radio. As Brady Quinn pointed out multiple times yesterday,
it is a holiday week here on FSR, and we
will be here the entire week, including today in that right,
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Brady LaVar, Yeah, it's a holiday week. I'll say what
those Giants fans, They're not gonna be able to celebrate
much after that second half. It's not You know what's
funny is the beginning of the pregame from Monday Night Football,
which I'm not gonna go off on a tangent, but
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like Steve Young's out there and making fun of Daniel
Jones during his warm up routine. Hey, Steve, have you
been living under a rock for the past two decades?
And how many other quarterbacks do? What is Tom House's
warm up? Like I just when I was watching, I
was thinking my myself, you must trying to be entertaining,
otherwise you're that aloof that. You have no idea what
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all these quarterbacks are being taught now I've been doing
for the past two decades, Like you must be living
in the nineties, right, now, if you're Steve Young and
you haven't seen that. And by the way, someone else
during their command man second calling it the PAC ten
If that gives you any idea of how ESPN and
feels about the PAC twelve the conferences called. I'm just saying,
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they keep rolling out these broadcasts and it's just getting
lazier and sloppy at times, and I don't get it.
I'm sorry. Yeah, the season it's uh now what now?
The the Daniel Jones stuff, it's where he's walking around
with his palms up, he's got his hands. I'm almost
like he's under arrest, and so doing Tom House clap back,
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he said, look, go walk around your house like that
for seven minutes. What he's doing is he's basically bringing
blood flow to his shoulders. He's trying to warm up
his shoulder is to prepare them for throwing and get
everything activate and everything warmed up. It's been something that
Tom House has done for a long time with pictures
and now he's doing it with quarterbacks and he's been
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incredibly successful. You name it, he's worked with them. In fact,
if we're gonna if we're gonna watch the Monday football
game and watch them blowviate about how many touchdown passes
Tom Brady has. You might as well go and say, well,
who does Tom Brady work with now? Oh, it would
be Tom House basically since his private quarterback coach died.
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He's been working with them now for the better part
of uh well more than a decade, maybe about a
decade and a half now since that occurred. So it's just,
you know, you get so tired of watching this stuff.
Are they trying to be entertaining or they trying to
actually talk about football? And hey, hey, Steve, go go
look at like what's out there and maybe explain to
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the viewers what he's doing instead of making fun of
the guy when you're the one who looks like a clouds,
I mean, is busting on a gold gold jacket, but
he's a golden domer, so I mean, give a crap.
You got a gold jacket, blue jacket. Who gives a crap?
At the end of the day, you don't wear a
gold jacket and broadcasting that doesn't exclude you from doing
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your job. Don't care what your career if you don't
know how to get on TV and tell the viewer
what's happening. Or do something in an entertaining way. Get out, man,
I don't care what you did about. Yeah, I'm talking about.
Oh brother came in strong on Tuesday. I can't wait
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from Monday football Strong and about. I don't even watch
the pregame show. I've even had it on. I don't
watch him, listen to him. I don't know. I don't know.
But it was an interesting game, and I hate that.
You know, we started off well. I don't want to
say we. Whenever there's a prop that involved, I get
really excited when something starts going my way and when
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they score really quickly, I was like, Okay, here we go.
I'm gonna get my double digits in the first quarter.
And I didn't. It happened. I did our prop bets
that I had a prop bet they did last night,
and I'm like, I can't remember what I picked. I couldn't.
That was the only one I really remember, honestly. Was
the two point to to convert to possession amount of points.
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That's the first quarter. Are we convinced after a win
over the Giants, which I think everybody pretty much expected
because the Giants are disaster? That's a whole another conversation
are we convinced Tampa Bay is still, uh possibly the
team to beat in the NFC based on what we
saw last night, I'll say no. I'm gonna say no,
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you know what, I still think Green Bay is up there,
but I almost feel like, I don't know, it just
changes from week to week. Like I feel like I'm
conflicted between Green Bay and Arizona right now. That's my conflict.
But I don't feel horrible about green Bay. They played
a strong uh they played a divisional rival. Those games
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are always those types of games, So I'm not I
didn't lose faith in and looking at the way green
Bay looks playing against Minnesota, so I still think that
that's a quality game and that's a quality win from Minnesota.
So it doesn't take too much away. But I just,
you know, when is Kyler Murray going to get back
out there? And that's like kind of like the difference
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for me. Yeah, that seems like it's dragged on a
little bit longer. And I think some people expect it
well that it was a high ankle sprain and it
wasn't a low ankle sprain, and that's you know, I
don't know if it was ever you know, the details
of it have been released. But you usually can come
back literally from a low ankle spraining. You could come
back from a low ankle sprain the next day. It's sore,
but you can. You can get through it. High ankle
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sprains they're just way more complicated, just in the way
that that weight bearing on on that part of your leg. Uh,
it just takes longer for it to hell for for
whatever reason. I'm not medical, I only get into that,
but high ankle sprains generally take longer for you to
return from. Yeah, I just Arizona seems like, I mean,
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they're they're winning games without Kyler Murray, but you know,
obviously you're gonna need him to make a rundown the
stretch Aaron Rodgers dealing with the toe issue. It feels
like Tampa. Yeah, I mean, I mean, by the way
Rex and Robert salopoke. Yeah, they talked and Rex came away.
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He was blown away by Robert salt all he wanted
to do. Apparently he was wearing flip flops. Um. But
the whole thing, when you look at the NFC right now,
it does feel like it took one weekend and here
we are again. It feels like it took one weekend
and I don't know if this is overreaction, but here
we are again. It's like, all right, so we're just
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gonna end up with possibly the Bucks and the Kansas
City Chiefs in the Super Bowl again, Brady Quinn, We're
just gonna run this thing back, man, no robs, no qualms,
all right. I mean, you got studs on each one
of those teams. You got arguably the greatest available time
and maybe one of the best quarterbacks right now. I'm
not sure I'm ready to continue to give the Homes
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that greatest right now title. I think Rogers might phone
into that category a little ahead of him. But you
got that going for You've got great defensive players um
on both sides the ball, some studs. So I run
that thing back. I know last year it was I
don't want to say a blowout. It wasn't a blow
You felt like Tampa Bay had control because of the
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offensive line situation the Chiefs. Even though this offensive line
is where it needs to be, it's still better than
what it was last year than the Super Bowl. So
I'd love to see a little bit more of an
even matched, um, you know, game between those two so
hell run it back, man, Either that or the the
Green Bay Packers. I think that's the other team you
got to throw in from the NFC. That's planets best.
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But the interesting thing when you like talking about that
right now, you know, outside of Tampa Bay Green in
the NFC side the a f C, you can make
the cases wide open, wide open. And that's why when
when you want to make the case and say that,
I'll just say, Cansidy Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, I'm done.
Like I just I trust them more than anyone else
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to be able to get those wins and figure it
out that that might not happen. But I trust them
based on recent history. They've just been winning way uglier
than than what I you know, I don't know what.
And again maybe this is the fan of watching football
side of it. Yeah, I mean I just come to
to see them dominate on the offensive side of the ball,
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and it's just not happening. They're not getting out on
teams like we've come to know. And that's I'm probably
guilty of of not coming with an analytical I more
more from a man, I want to see Kansas City
do what Kansas City does and and we just haven't
seen them do it. I mean, do you think about
this last game they had with Dallas. I mean, Dak,
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You're being paid as a franchise quarterback. You're pegged as
a franchise quarterback. You're going up against the guy in
Mahomes who was a bona fide franchise quarterback. You're going
up against arguably the best team in the a f C.
Do better than that. That that's the team. Dallas is
the team. I come away this weekend going that I
had high hopes for that. I come away gone, are we?
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Are we doing this again? Nine points is disheartening, especially
when you get a spirited, you know, a spirited effort
by your defense. Your defense has been considered to be
your weakest link. Your defense held they held up that
if you hold a team and Brady, you can attest
to this. And in the meeting room, your coach will
say this immediately, especially the defensive coach. Hold them under twenty, guys,
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give our offense a chance to win. That's what they'll say.
Hold this team under twenty, we can win the game.
If you told me, hold the Kansas City Chiefs to
under twenty should win. We shall win. And that's the
problem I have with Dallas right now today. You can't
hold a team like Kansas City under twenty and not
have enough offense to beat them and think you have
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a good offense. I mean, I don't think Dallas a
super Bowl team. I mean like Dallas would say they're
super Bowl team since the nineties. You were saying on
Friday that that was a Super Bowl preview the Chiefs
and Cowboys. That's what you were saying. Probably believe that
was you that said that. That was you. You were
the one that maybe picked Dallas to the super Bowl
this year. Did I really why you're asking me when
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we could just go back and check the tea? Yeah,
but I don't think we we go archives go back
that far because you've never made you know, I bet
that you know you haven't paid up on or said anything.
I'll take it out of context. I was taking out
to Tony Romo stuff. I was taken out of context.
I don't know what you're referring to gets ten million
dollars a year. I'm getting a sex change out of contest.
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And before you get your sex time we go to
our break. I'm throwing the Colts in there. The Colts
have got to be considered a series is threat. I'm
throwing the Colts in there. I just I keep picturing
Carson went storing a left handed ocep sh at the
goal line again. I just it's it's too scarring. I
just it's like Murphy's law. You know, you gotta trust
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your gut on that one. But I'm just saying I
felt like I felt like the and we want to
forget my dude, that's the point. And it got right
in my throat. And plus you're on your triple shot
right now, it's a double. I couldn't find the triple.
They're all out. It's got that it's a little creamy there.
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I just wanted to point that out. I'm just saying, no,
I'm just saying that's what. It looks a little bit
like that. Hey. By the way, you guys are the
biggest a hole ever. Before we get to break um,
and we do have to wait to see how long
the suspension for Tom Brady is going to be after
he went cleats first on this run last night. You know,
we do need to make sure we find out how
long these suspension is. First off, you're jealous because you
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could never look that at what at his age, I
wouldn't try and take somebody's ankles out like that. He
when cleats first, he pulled the old Thaie Cob. I mean,
that's at least here's all I'm gonna say about that.
As a quarterback, you hated sliding feet first. Here's the
reason behind it. Even though you get the protection where
no one can hit you blah blah, guys still do.
And the hard part about that is when you go
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down feet first and no one talks about this, what's
exposed your entire upper half of your body. It's the
last thing to be able to get low, to get
underneath anyone trying to hit you. And when a defenders
running up to hit you, usually if there's contact, that
accidentally happens to be to the upper half, head or
neck area. So the entire purpose of why they like
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quarterbacks slide is negated by the fact that your most
exposed part is your upper body. So I have no
problem with him doing that because he's putting his cleats,
upper feet up to block anyone who could potentially be
coming in and take his head off. He already hurdled
a guy on his way to the first town. So
how about them apples? Ye? Did did you hear jonas
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sound effects for your your explanation? Steve Young wouldn't have
gone cleats first like that. I know that. Who would
have taken it on head on? Who He's not trying
to take out anybody's career, not trying to end careers here,
like Tom Brady. That's a two game suspension. We'll see
you in a couple of weeks, Pal later on. That's
how it works. Should be punished to the full extent
of the law, Tom Brady. I thought about giving you
sound effects for your explanation. People, people, what is unbelievable? Man?
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You're going to sit there and sound effect Brady and
then that is your two games, Okay, I mean a
game like yeah, that just came to you one. Yeah. Well,
I just just want to point that out. Steve Young
Wooden and we're talking about great Tampa Bay Buck quarterback.
Steve probably would have slid it all you would have
kept running the end, it is true, but he wouldn't
have Tampa Yeah, he wouldn't have held his hands up though.
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That's a bad I didn't even know he played for
Tampa Bay Steve Young. Ye didn't even old creamsicles, didn't
you go? If you go back through and look at
some of the Hall of Famers and how their career started,
it would have been so different. None of them in
today's there's like there's like a handful of them that
were like us, Brady. It's the weirdest thing, Like every
Hall of Famer came from like a small place when
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they were that was this one. That's a small place.
Though they might have been small, well, the points more
this like Brett Farrs in Atlanta before he's in Green Bay, right,
like Steve Young was in Tampa. They were awful before
it went to sad, go back when they were in
high school. But they were given chances to actually where
the chance to make mistakes go through, something like Warren
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Moons sit and learn and then become better. Warren Moons
a great example. He Do you think you think Warren
Moon would be given a chance today in today's NFL
like he was back then? No chance because it would
be either you give me a year and a half,
well we're not seen enough and we got to move
on from him, or yet. But he probably get more
of a chance right out the gate these days than
what he would have back then, just based off No, dude,
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I was gonna say the opposite. I think if you're
Payton Manning, Payton Manning set the interception records rookie year
like he would have been every everyone's been saying, oh
he's over, we look for another quarterback. I mean think
about that. Yeah, No, I don't know I agree with
that Manning interception because he's a Manning that would be
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would have gotten an extra absolutely, yeah. Maybe, I mean
Eli didn't want to go to Jamis. Winston led the
league in passing through over thirty touchdowns, but hey, through
thirty interceptions, became a backup. And I think about by
showing the door and what did what? What did what
did Javis Winston get like two million a year from
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the Saints? I think like he went from starting quarterback
five thousand yards or whatever it was and then he
was making a two million a year in the backup.
So it's a bummer. But if you try and eat
your hands, you know that's what happens. Well, I think
that was more to blame, to be honest, Yeah, I agree.
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All Right, so, LaVar, you mentioned you were on the
call for the Browns Lions game. Um, and uh, you know,
Baker Mayfield didn't have all that hot of a performance
and he's been dealing with some injuries and then there
were reports that he walked away, didn't do any post
skills like they lost. I know, it's the weirdest it is.
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And uh, yeah, here we are. Baker Bayfield finally did
talk with the media on Monday, and uh, let's let's
go ahead and break this down after we hear from
the Brown's quarterback. You look frustrated coming off the field yesterday.
Is that why we didn't hear from you? Oh? Yeah,
I was frustrated among other things. Um yeah, I mean
it's I'm not I've never dodged any questions or hit
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away from that, so um, it's not about that. Just frustrated,
removed emotions and all that from it, decided it was
best to wait. I think that's what surprised of Saul
Baker is that you pride yourself on on being that
guy and being accountable and stepping forward, and not one
part of that's not being accountable. I'd be the first
to tell you I played like so it's not about accountable.
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And I don't owe you guys any of that. I
owe that to my teammates, and I talked to them,
So that's what matters. You know, you talked so much
about winning, and I know how important it is to you.
Is it a mixed message at all that you walk
straight off without celebrating on the field left of the game. UM,
I mean to our guys, no, to you guys that
maybe it depends on how you want to take it.
You're gonna write your stories regardless. I mean, my guys
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know that all I care about is winning. But I'm
gonna be frustrated if if I do stuff to um
make it harder on us, and I did yesterday and
that's just flat out where it was. But I'm never
gonna take winning for granted. That's something that's very hard
to do in this league, um, and it's hadn't been
a very common thing around here for a long time.
So I'm just frustrated with how I played and That's
that's how I've always been. That they know I'm gonna
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come back and attack this week, and that's how I've
always been, Baker. What did you make of of some
of the booming there in the second half from the fans?
Those are probably the same fans that won't be quiet
while we're on offense and trying to operate. So I
don't really care. I love it. He's got a red ass.
He's got a red ass, he's banged up, he's not
playing well. It's a big year maybe contractually for him,
and that's what it is. He wanted that contract coming
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into this season, all right, we all know that he
wanted the contract. Every every time you you get one
game down, your one game removed from making the case
of why you should get an extension even though you
still have time left on your contract. And and he
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didn't play. He didn't play well, really, he didn't play
at a very high level. What he did do was
gut through and power through the pain of what he's
dealing with physically, and he made some really timely plays, uh,
even with you know, the bum hill and and just
the soreness that he's dealing with. But the throws were
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were short, they were low, they were inaccurate. Uh. He
threw an interception that was you know, it was a
bad throw. He just he just didn't play well in
the passing game. And I think the frustrating part for
him is you get a win against a team that
can't win games, and it was not in it an
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oppressive fashion. And and interviewing him during the week, the
one thing that he made very clear and his interview
was I want to be at eighty percent completion percentage,
and I want to have it. I want to have
more explosive plays like going into the game. That was
his main focus. And I'll pass this off to you, Brady.
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You tell me, even regardless of the contract situation, if
a quarterback is looking to to find his rhythm and
find those explosive plays and get that high completion percentage,
you're gonna want to do it against a team that
can't win games. Right. I mean, I'm sure every quarterbacks
thing that going into playing the Lions right now, right
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especially the way they've looked on tape, what they've given up.
Everyone's looking their chops saying I want to be completion percentage.
I want to create explosive plays, have big games. The
Lions are well aware of that too, like they're well
aware of trying to limit the amount of big plays
that they're given and improve on defense. So this is
the NFL. It's not college where you know, he's probably
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looking back at some of the program and saying, we're
gonna lay a big number on Kansas here, right. I
just I think this is more the what I see,
at least from him, is he wanted to contract. You know,
there are six and five football team. They gotta win.
It feels like they lost for whatever reason, and he's
frustrating because of how he's feeling physically. I mean, he's
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banged up, he's hurting everywhere, non throwing shoulder, throwing shoulder.
Yet you know someone's at ribs. He had an anchor
and there's all this different stuff going on right now
and he's not getting any credit for it. Like Baker
Mayfield through. Really, when you think about how he came
onto Texas Tech, he had a phenomenal freshman year, was
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the Big twelve Newcomer of the Year. Um, we can
get into how he was a walk on whatever else
and whether or not that was legit, But I digress.
He goes to Oklahoma, he ends up helping them win
a Big twelve championship, comes back the next year, you know,
wins the Highsman, they go to We'll have a shot
to play for a national championship. Like he's done, He's
got nothing. He comes to his rookie year, he sets
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the touchdown record for rookies, you know, rookie quarterbacks. I mean,
he's done nothing but kind of received praise for the
most part. And even though there was a step back
at his second year, and we're kind of to this
point now, you know, he hasn't really received a lot
of criticism much in his career. And I think at
a point in time in which the Browns are turned
around from where they were, they we have to admit
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there are a much better football than before he got there.
And so not only are they a better team, but
they're winning and he's playing through a lot of stuff
and no one's giving him credit for it. So I
think that's the frustrating part is on the outside, everyone's
asking the question, is he worth a franchise, you know,
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quarterback money? And on the inside, he's like, dude, I'm
just doing my best to get on the field every Sunday,
and you guys can't even appreciate that. Like, you guys
can't even appreciate like we're playing a team that was
where we were, what four years ago, when they didn't
wear win a game or won one game. He's like,
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we are so far removed from that, and yet you
can't even appreciate a win when I'm out here struggling
to just stay on the field and stay healthy at
this point, like I'm doing this for our team. And
so I think that's the frustrating part is you know
how he's been able to fight through stuff, but he's
not receiving any credit for And that's the reality of
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the NFL. Like we do. I do a segment with
Pe Prisco every week. He picks out a bad offensive
lineman who had a bad week, bad game. He picked
on Quentin Nelson last week or two weeks ago. Excuse
me now. And I said to him, I said, you
know they won the game, and he's like, yeah, but
he didn't play well. I go, he's got an ankle
that needs surgery, is trying to play through because it
doesn't matter he's in there playing. That's in a nutshell
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the perception of every media member out there and every
fan out there who doesn't understand what players are going
through at this point time this season, and it's frustrating.
I was a part of a bad team in case,
dealing with a bunch of different injuries, and I was
just trying to get through the end of the season,
as bad as we were as a team and as
bad as it was going. But I didn't want to
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go on I R. I easily could have went on
I R, got my shoulder, looked at an operating I
had some stuff done. I chose not to. But like,
that's what people don't understand that's going on behind the
scenes many times at this point time in the season.
And also I'm not saying this is only because of
Baker Mayfield, because they have gotten better roster wise elsewhere,
but look, it's it's I don't think it's any coincidence
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that this organization turned around when Baker Mayfield became the
starting quarterback. We can say whatever you want about while
he's a game manager. He's not worth a big contract.
All I know is when they opened up a bunch
of bud Light fridges around the country because the Browns
finally won a game. It was because Baker Mayfield came
in and bailed him out. So that's probably also him saying, look,
I remember what it was like when I got here.
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It was awful. It was it was a complete train wreck.
I've seen what has happened. We were a playoff team
a year ago. We want a playoff game a year ago.
And I'm gutting through all these injuries, and he's frustrated,
and he's probably tired of hearing the noise from from
a lot of people out there. And he absolutely does
read and listen and hear everything based on and that's
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where I would just say this about him. He has
shown maturity where the old Baker probably would have went
answered questions and snapped at a few reports and grabbed
his crotch afterwards if and maybe done that right or
you know, like on that video you said yeah, or
the lugs one you said we were the police. But
that's like there is some maturity in him not going there.
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But on the flip side, then you see like this
part of it where he still gets triggered by them
and it's like, dude, they got to do their job too,
just just like play chess, not checkers. Be one step
above and ahead of them. You don't need to get
so emotional about their questions and what they say. You know,
it doesn't need to be personal because it's not like
help bring them into what you're dealing with and the
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like the human side of things and not have to
put up these walls around it. So like, even though
he's still showing some growth the maturity, it's like it's
just still there, man, Like he's just still trying to
grow into that being more mature. With how he handles
the media. I will say he's a likable dude, though
when you meet him, I didn't. I don't. I try
to stay away from personal feelings on players just because
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we have to talk about them every them tucks on him,
trust me, Like, I'm just saying how he how he
acts towards anyone who's interviewing was a part of the media,
regardless of intimate or not. There's also that side that
you're not seeing. But yeah, yeah, it's just I don't
invest too much into it one way or the other.
But it's you know, like if you've talked to somebody,
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like like when I when I met Earl, Earl Thomas.
I was like, I don't like him. I just don't
like this dude. And and and that what you know,
there's certain people you'll meet and you'd be like, oh,
he's likable. There's certain dudes that you you meet and
it's like, you know, I don't like him at all.
And you know, Baker came across as a likable dude,
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and someone explains this to me, Yes, please, did Lebron
punch Isaiah Stewart? How has he only suspended one game?
He didn't escalate it. They're saying he elboating, and he elboating,
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good elbow. I think he threw a backhand like elboating.
Whatever he did, it was intentional. You can make the
case that that's what escalated it. And look, I'm a
Lebron fan, but I'm I'm willing to sit there and
say to you, when a dude it's wrong, he's wrong. Well, well,
while we're discussing that, because the one takeaway I took
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like this is this is just how I work. Right,
If you are going to jump up in somebody's face,
I don't care who it is Lebron, I don't. I
don't care. At the point in time you decide that
you're going to jump up in somebody's face, don't just
jump up in their face. Get a shot in. Man,
You're gonna wait all that time for this? Is this
is what I hate about tough dudes, right, I think
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they're really really tough, because there's a difference between a
real tough dude and and a fake tough guy. All right,
if I'm ready to go, like if if I get
hit in my face like that, and and and listen,
I'm not speaking hypothetically because I've been in enough practices
where I could give you a hundred stories how I
whooped somebody's ass or I got my own, I got jumped,
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and and and that's just what it is sometimes in practices.
If you're going to thump, then thump. Don't get up
in the dudes face. You up in Lebron's face looking
at him, saying what you're gonna say, Nah, grabbing by
his knack or but popp him in his face or
give him a shot in his gut, something like that.
You're gonna wait. You got all that time to do
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whatever it is you're gonna do with Lebron right there
in your face, who already bust your face up, And
you're gonna wait until they start grabbing you. And now
you want to start acting crazy and running around and
chasing after him. You ain't getting a Lebron after you
had your opportunity. You were not going to get close
to that man again, and you knew it. So all
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you did was proved to the entire world because I
went viral across the world. All you did would show
that you're a fake tough guy. You're a fake tough guy.
You're not You're not really You ain't really about that smoke,
you ain't about that life. Don't ever act as though
you're gonna fight with somebody, because you're not that guy.
And I wanted to get that. So I'm glad Isaiah Stewart.
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I had the opportunity to bring you up. But because Brady,
I listen, if you go on, thump, then thump, Yeah,
that's that's That's what comes out to, just a simple
simple head butt to the bridge of the nose. That's
why you want to know why I got a two
games suspension for fake tough guy stuff. That's what he
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got one for, really like for for the incident. Then
he got another one for being a fake tough guy.
Let me let me just say this too, though, Like
I know, eighty two games a long season. You know,
basketball in the NBA it's more physical than we give
it credit. Now. It ain't what it used to be,
but it's still more physical than we give him credit.
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Then it takes a toll and all that. But I
do hate when basketball players try to make this whole
like football mentality or whatever, like, no, you're not not
even close, not even close, bro, Because here's the deal is,
football players don't take off time because of load management
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because they're sore. Like like we talked about Baker Mayfield,
he's playing through a lot of stuff right now, but
he's out there and he's doing it because he wants
to lead his team. You know, he understands how crucial
every game is now, being that they're six and five
in a tight division race, in a wide open a
f C playoff picture, he can't afford to take off
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any time. There might be times of practice where he
takes off some periods or takes off a day, but
that's just so he can get to those games. So
I just like the whole load management thing and like
trying to compare yourself to a football player or toughness
or that mentality and ain't even close. Man, Different stratis
don't even You don't even have the luxury of allowing
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somebody to come in and take your reps for load management,
Like I would be I'll be damn, I let somebody
come in and take my reps. Like they get out
there and they make a sack or they get two
sacks or oh my gosh, they got three sacks. It's like, wait,
we pay this animal weight. We can actually just uh,
(32:08):
that next contract for LaVar is well, let's see, that's
a workout bonus. That's uh, that's a roster bonus. So
we got to sign him to the roster. We're gonna say,
who wow, you know what, let's think about that. That's
what happens in football. You're not gonna have that happened
to Lebron James guaranteed. I'm not going ahead of happened
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to them, guys. Man. So Lebron James, um, yeah, yeah.
He it was like a little short, little elbow punch
type of deal. But he did all that, like freaking
out and flipping out. He had a chance right there
in the moment. Listen, and I don't condone valance and
not definitely condoned being being composed and and showing restraint,
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but you didn't. Hey, this is why frank Or has
all the pressure on him. Frank Or needs to get
it done when he fights. I gotta say this. I
gotta be honest with you here, right, Frank Gore is
a running back like that's like that's like that's like,
yeah he is. But you gotta understand there's levels to this. Okay,
all right, there's levels. Okay, So like le le, let
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me give you a great example, right, if some s
popped off when we was in Iowa City while we
was double fisting and ah, the old brothers that this
is so fun. Let somebody have disrespected Brady and then
you'll find out what the levels are. You'll find out
what the levels of what that looks. Because Matt Line
or what have stepped in and because LaVar Arrington would
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have tore holes in that bar, they would have had
to come repair the bar. I'm telling you it would
it would the dudes would I would have been wiping
that bar up, they would have been like what Jess happened?
There's levels. So what I'm saying is, if I'm out
with Frank Gore and we're all out, there are certain
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dudes that you're like, do if something pops off, I
know for certain that this is what Like there's even
levels for me, Like when I'm out with certain dudes.
I know there's levels for me, Like that's who I'm
gonna be here somewhere to pop off. That's who I'm
gonna be close to. Remember the god who is the reliever?
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Remember when Bryce Harper got in a fight with the
reliever for the Giants? Uh god, okay, what's that? What's
that guy's name? Reliever for the anyways? Um who cares?
But but the point is, the point is in the scrub.
But the point is the point is, Yeah, the point
is in the scrum. The one guy who made the
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most noise was Jeff Somarja. Remember when he ran from
the dugout. He he gave he gave his own teammate
a concussion, and it was like you could tell, right, Okay,
so that's the football player. That's the guy who played
football because he wiped out his own teammate. I think
it was Michael Morris. He gave him a concussion in
the fight because he just couldn't wait to get Let
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me just summarize ab us saying this, like when when
the laarat speaking to the levels of it, Just think
about this, all right, Like offensive players their mindset, they're
incentivized by getting to the goal line, like they get
to touch the football, all right, they get to touch
the ball like they're a they're a product of that,
like they get excited, they're their motivation is getting that
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ball across the goal on but they get to be
a part of that. Sometimes it gets to be them.
When you play defense, that's not your motivation, Like your
entire mindset is I want to destroy the person across
from me, whoever has that ball, like you're every single play,
your entire mindset is I want to kill the person
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who I need to kill to go hit the person
with the football. Like it is such a different mindset
to explain to people that. That's why it's like don't, don't,
don't make the comparison, like but but here's the thing,
though old lineman, certain oldlignment, there's levels to this. It's
all about certain tight ends, certain tight ends. There's levels
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to this thing. Like Jeremy Shaki, there's levels to it.
Like if min Shaki are out, it's like if something
if something bad is about to happen, we gotta go,
like we gotta, we gotta go now, like two pads
go directly home, like do not collect you hundred dollars
not go home like there's certain dudes that you just know.
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And my whole point of this is not to be
on no mo chiese moo type stuff. What I'm saying is,
if you're gonna be throwing trash cans around and and
trying to move coaches and your teammates out of the
way and and ushers get off of me with your
bloody face and all of this and all of that,
you should have thumped right then and there, thump now
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or forever hold your piece. Everything he did, everything he
did after that moment had me looking at this dude like,
you're a clown, bro, a big old, tall, long clown,
and you made you made an ass of yourself and
your family because there's somebody that's sitting at home that
when he was a kid, they would have made him
go back around the block and he would have had
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to shoot a fair one with him. Real talk, that's
real talk. Man. You can't do all that, all that
late that you're late. Don't be late, don't be lady.
Right there, Lebron was right there in his face like
what's up? Like, what's up? I did it? I blooded
your face? You see your nose your lip. That was me.
I'm right here in front of you. You did nothing,
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so stop it. Wow, good for you. I feel bad.
I'd be boxing him out. I'll be boxing him out
every time. I'm just saying, thump now or forever, hold yours.
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it is a holiday week here on FSR, and we
will be here the entire week, including today in that right,
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Brady LaVar, Yeah, it's a holiday week. I'll say what
those Giants fans, They're not gonna be able to celebrate
much after that second half. It's not You know what's
funny is the beginning of the pregame from Monday Night Football,
which I'm not gonna go off on a tangent, but
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like Steve Young's out there and making fun of Daniel
Jones during his warm up routine. Hey, Steve, have you
been living under a rock for the past two decades?
And how many other quarterbacks do? What is Tom House's
warm up? Like I just when I was watching, I
was thinking my myself, you must trying to be entertaining,
otherwise you're that aloof that. You have no idea what
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all these quarterbacks are being taught now I've been doing
for the past two decades, Like you must be living
in the nineties, right, now, if you're Steve Young and
you haven't seen that. And by the way, someone else
during their command man second calling it the PAC ten
If that gives you any idea of how ESPN and
feels about the PAC twelve the conferences called. I'm just saying,
(01:27):
they keep rolling out these broadcasts and it's just getting
lazier and sloppy at times, and I don't get it.
I'm sorry. Yeah, the season it's uh now what now?
The the Daniel Jones stuff, it's where he's walking around
with his palms up, he's got his hands. I'm almost
like he's under arrest, and so doing Tom House clap back,
(01:51):
he said, look, go walk around your house like that
for seven minutes. What he's doing is he's basically bringing
blood flow to his shoulders. He's trying to warm up
his shoulder is to prepare them for throwing and get
everything activate and everything warmed up. It's been something that
Tom House has done for a long time with pictures
and now he's doing it with quarterbacks and he's been
(02:12):
incredibly successful. You name it, he's worked with them. In fact,
if we're gonna if we're gonna watch the Monday football
game and watch them blowviate about how many touchdown passes
Tom Brady has. You might as well go and say, well,
who does Tom Brady work with now? Oh, it would
be Tom House basically since his private quarterback coach died.
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He's been working with them now for the better part
of uh well more than a decade, maybe about a
decade and a half now since that occurred. So it's just,
you know, you get so tired of watching this stuff.
Are they trying to be entertaining or they trying to
actually talk about football? And hey, hey, Steve, go go
look at like what's out there and maybe explain to
(02:53):
the viewers what he's doing instead of making fun of
the guy when you're the one who looks like a clouds,
I mean, is busting on a gold gold jacket, but
he's a golden domer, so I mean, give a crap.
You got a gold jacket, blue jacket. Who gives a crap?
At the end of the day, you don't wear a
gold jacket and broadcasting that doesn't exclude you from doing
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your job. Don't care what your career if you don't
know how to get on TV and tell the viewer
what's happening. Or do something in an entertaining way. Get out, man,
I don't care what you did about. Yeah, I'm talking about.
Oh brother came in strong on Tuesday. I can't wait
(03:37):
from Monday football Strong and about. I don't even watch
the pregame show. I've even had it on. I don't
watch him, listen to him. I don't know. I don't know.
But it was an interesting game, and I hate that.
You know, we started off well. I don't want to
say we. Whenever there's a prop that involved, I get
really excited when something starts going my way and when
(03:59):
they score really quickly, I was like, Okay, here we go.
I'm gonna get my double digits in the first quarter.
And I didn't. It happened. I did our prop bets
that I had a prop bet they did last night,
and I'm like, I can't remember what I picked. I couldn't.
That was the only one I really remember, honestly. Was
the two point to to convert to possession amount of points.
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That's the first quarter. Are we convinced after a win
over the Giants, which I think everybody pretty much expected
because the Giants are disaster? That's a whole another conversation
are we convinced Tampa Bay is still, uh possibly the
team to beat in the NFC based on what we
saw last night, I'll say no. I'm gonna say no,
(04:43):
you know what, I still think Green Bay is up there,
but I almost feel like, I don't know, it just
changes from week to week. Like I feel like I'm
conflicted between Green Bay and Arizona right now. That's my conflict.
But I don't feel horrible about green Bay. They played
a strong uh they played a divisional rival. Those games
(05:04):
are always those types of games, So I'm not I
didn't lose faith in and looking at the way green
Bay looks playing against Minnesota, so I still think that
that's a quality game and that's a quality win from Minnesota.
So it doesn't take too much away. But I just,
you know, when is Kyler Murray going to get back
out there? And that's like kind of like the difference
(05:25):
for me. Yeah, that seems like it's dragged on a
little bit longer. And I think some people expect it
well that it was a high ankle sprain and it
wasn't a low ankle sprain, and that's you know, I
don't know if it was ever you know, the details
of it have been released. But you usually can come
back literally from a low ankle spraining. You could come
back from a low ankle sprain the next day. It's sore,
but you can. You can get through it. High ankle
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sprains they're just way more complicated, just in the way
that that weight bearing on on that part of your leg. Uh,
it just takes longer for it to hell for for
whatever reason. I'm not medical, I only get into that,
but high ankle sprains generally take longer for you to
return from. Yeah, I just Arizona seems like, I mean,
(06:09):
they're they're winning games without Kyler Murray, but you know,
obviously you're gonna need him to make a rundown the
stretch Aaron Rodgers dealing with the toe issue. It feels
like Tampa. Yeah, I mean, I mean, by the way
Rex and Robert salopoke. Yeah, they talked and Rex came away.
(06:29):
He was blown away by Robert salt all he wanted
to do. Apparently he was wearing flip flops. Um. But
the whole thing, when you look at the NFC right now,
it does feel like it took one weekend and here
we are again. It feels like it took one weekend
and I don't know if this is overreaction, but here
we are again. It's like, all right, so we're just
(06:51):
gonna end up with possibly the Bucks and the Kansas
City Chiefs in the Super Bowl again, Brady Quinn, We're
just gonna run this thing back, man, no robs, no qualms,
all right. I mean, you got studs on each one
of those teams. You got arguably the greatest available time
and maybe one of the best quarterbacks right now. I'm
not sure I'm ready to continue to give the Homes
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that greatest right now title. I think Rogers might phone
into that category a little ahead of him. But you
got that going for You've got great defensive players um
on both sides the ball, some studs. So I run
that thing back. I know last year it was I
don't want to say a blowout. It wasn't a blow
You felt like Tampa Bay had control because of the
(07:32):
offensive line situation the Chiefs. Even though this offensive line
is where it needs to be, it's still better than
what it was last year than the Super Bowl. So
I'd love to see a little bit more of an
even matched, um, you know, game between those two so
hell run it back, man, Either that or the the
Green Bay Packers. I think that's the other team you
got to throw in from the NFC. That's planets best.
(07:54):
But the interesting thing when you like talking about that
right now, you know, outside of Tampa Bay Green in
the NFC side the a f C, you can make
the cases wide open, wide open. And that's why when
when you want to make the case and say that,
I'll just say, Cansidy Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, I'm done.
Like I just I trust them more than anyone else
(08:16):
to be able to get those wins and figure it
out that that might not happen. But I trust them
based on recent history. They've just been winning way uglier
than than what I you know, I don't know what.
And again maybe this is the fan of watching football
side of it. Yeah, I mean I just come to
to see them dominate on the offensive side of the ball,
(08:37):
and it's just not happening. They're not getting out on
teams like we've come to know. And that's I'm probably
guilty of of not coming with an analytical I more
more from a man, I want to see Kansas City
do what Kansas City does and and we just haven't
seen them do it. I mean, do you think about
this last game they had with Dallas. I mean, Dak,
(09:01):
You're being paid as a franchise quarterback. You're pegged as
a franchise quarterback. You're going up against the guy in
Mahomes who was a bona fide franchise quarterback. You're going
up against arguably the best team in the a f C.
Do better than that. That that's the team. Dallas is
the team. I come away this weekend going that I
had high hopes for that. I come away gone, are we?
(09:24):
Are we doing this again? Nine points is disheartening, especially
when you get a spirited, you know, a spirited effort
by your defense. Your defense has been considered to be
your weakest link. Your defense held they held up that
if you hold a team and Brady, you can attest
to this. And in the meeting room, your coach will
say this immediately, especially the defensive coach. Hold them under twenty, guys,
(09:48):
give our offense a chance to win. That's what they'll say.
Hold this team under twenty, we can win the game.
If you told me, hold the Kansas City Chiefs to
under twenty should win. We shall win. And that's the
problem I have with Dallas right now today. You can't
hold a team like Kansas City under twenty and not
have enough offense to beat them and think you have
(10:09):
a good offense. I mean, I don't think Dallas a
super Bowl team. I mean like Dallas would say they're
super Bowl team since the nineties. You were saying on
Friday that that was a Super Bowl preview the Chiefs
and Cowboys. That's what you were saying. Probably believe that
was you that said that. That was you. You were
the one that maybe picked Dallas to the super Bowl
this year. Did I really why you're asking me when
(10:30):
we could just go back and check the tea? Yeah,
but I don't think we we go archives go back
that far because you've never made you know, I bet
that you know you haven't paid up on or said anything.
I'll take it out of context. I was taking out
to Tony Romo stuff. I was taken out of context.
I don't know what you're referring to gets ten million
dollars a year. I'm getting a sex change out of contest.
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And before you get your sex time we go to
our break. I'm throwing the Colts in there. The Colts
have got to be considered a series is threat. I'm
throwing the Colts in there. I just I keep picturing
Carson went storing a left handed ocep sh at the
goal line again. I just it's it's too scarring. I
just it's like Murphy's law. You know, you gotta trust
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your gut on that one. But I'm just saying I
felt like I felt like the and we want to
forget my dude, that's the point. And it got right
in my throat. And plus you're on your triple shot
right now, it's a double. I couldn't find the triple.
They're all out. It's got that it's a little creamy there.
(11:35):
I just wanted to point that out. I'm just saying, no,
I'm just saying that's what. It looks a little bit
like that. Hey. By the way, you guys are the
biggest a hole ever. Before we get to break um,
and we do have to wait to see how long
the suspension for Tom Brady is going to be after
he went cleats first on this run last night. You know,
we do need to make sure we find out how
long these suspension is. First off, you're jealous because you
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could never look that at what at his age, I
wouldn't try and take somebody's ankles out like that. He
when cleats first, he pulled the old Thaie Cob. I mean,
that's at least here's all I'm gonna say about that.
As a quarterback, you hated sliding feet first. Here's the
reason behind it. Even though you get the protection where
no one can hit you blah blah, guys still do.
And the hard part about that is when you go
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down feet first and no one talks about this, what's
exposed your entire upper half of your body. It's the
last thing to be able to get low, to get
underneath anyone trying to hit you. And when a defenders
running up to hit you, usually if there's contact, that
accidentally happens to be to the upper half, head or
neck area. So the entire purpose of why they like
(12:43):
quarterbacks slide is negated by the fact that your most
exposed part is your upper body. So I have no
problem with him doing that because he's putting his cleats,
upper feet up to block anyone who could potentially be
coming in and take his head off. He already hurdled
a guy on his way to the first town. So
how about them apples? Ye? Did did you hear jonas
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sound effects for your your explanation? Steve Young wouldn't have
gone cleats first like that. I know that. Who would
have taken it on head on? Who He's not trying
to take out anybody's career, not trying to end careers here,
like Tom Brady. That's a two game suspension. We'll see
you in a couple of weeks, Pal later on. That's
how it works. Should be punished to the full extent
of the law, Tom Brady. I thought about giving you
sound effects for your explanation. People, people, what is unbelievable? Man?
(13:29):
You're going to sit there and sound effect Brady and
then that is your two games, Okay, I mean a
game like yeah, that just came to you one. Yeah. Well,
I just just want to point that out. Steve Young
Wooden and we're talking about great Tampa Bay Buck quarterback.
Steve probably would have slid it all you would have
kept running the end, it is true, but he wouldn't
have Tampa Yeah, he wouldn't have held his hands up though.
(13:51):
That's a bad I didn't even know he played for
Tampa Bay Steve Young. Ye didn't even old creamsicles, didn't
you go? If you go back through and look at
some of the Hall of Famers and how their career started,
it would have been so different. None of them in
today's there's like there's like a handful of them that
were like us, Brady. It's the weirdest thing, Like every
Hall of Famer came from like a small place when
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they were that was this one. That's a small place.
Though they might have been small, well, the points more
this like Brett Farrs in Atlanta before he's in Green Bay, right,
like Steve Young was in Tampa. They were awful before
it went to sad, go back when they were in
high school. But they were given chances to actually where
the chance to make mistakes go through, something like Warren
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Moons sit and learn and then become better. Warren Moons
a great example. He Do you think you think Warren
Moon would be given a chance today in today's NFL
like he was back then? No chance because it would
be either you give me a year and a half,
well we're not seen enough and we got to move
on from him, or yet. But he probably get more
of a chance right out the gate these days than
what he would have back then, just based off No, dude,
(14:58):
I was gonna say the opposite. I think if you're
Payton Manning, Payton Manning set the interception records rookie year
like he would have been every everyone's been saying, oh
he's over, we look for another quarterback. I mean think
about that. Yeah, No, I don't know I agree with
that Manning interception because he's a Manning that would be
(15:20):
would have gotten an extra absolutely, yeah. Maybe, I mean
Eli didn't want to go to Jamis. Winston led the
league in passing through over thirty touchdowns, but hey, through
thirty interceptions, became a backup. And I think about by
showing the door and what did what? What did what
did Javis Winston get like two million a year from
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the Saints? I think like he went from starting quarterback
five thousand yards or whatever it was and then he
was making a two million a year in the backup.
So it's a bummer. But if you try and eat
your hands, you know that's what happens. Well, I think
that was more to blame, to be honest, Yeah, I agree.
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All Right, so, LaVar, you mentioned you were on the
call for the Browns Lions game. Um, and uh, you know,
Baker Mayfield didn't have all that hot of a performance
and he's been dealing with some injuries and then there
were reports that he walked away, didn't do any post
skills like they lost. I know, it's the weirdest it is.
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And uh, yeah, here we are. Baker Bayfield finally did
talk with the media on Monday, and uh, let's let's
go ahead and break this down after we hear from
the Brown's quarterback. You look frustrated coming off the field yesterday.
Is that why we didn't hear from you? Oh? Yeah,
I was frustrated among other things. Um yeah, I mean
it's I'm not I've never dodged any questions or hit
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away from that, so um, it's not about that. Just frustrated,
removed emotions and all that from it, decided it was
best to wait. I think that's what surprised of Saul
Baker is that you pride yourself on on being that
guy and being accountable and stepping forward, and not one
part of that's not being accountable. I'd be the first
to tell you I played like so it's not about accountable.
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And I don't owe you guys any of that. I
owe that to my teammates, and I talked to them,
So that's what matters. You know, you talked so much
about winning, and I know how important it is to you.
Is it a mixed message at all that you walk
straight off without celebrating on the field left of the game. UM,
I mean to our guys, no, to you guys that
maybe it depends on how you want to take it.
You're gonna write your stories regardless. I mean, my guys
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know that all I care about is winning. But I'm
gonna be frustrated if if I do stuff to um
make it harder on us, and I did yesterday and
that's just flat out where it was. But I'm never
gonna take winning for granted. That's something that's very hard
to do in this league, um, and it's hadn't been
a very common thing around here for a long time.
So I'm just frustrated with how I played and That's
that's how I've always been. That they know I'm gonna
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come back and attack this week, and that's how I've
always been, Baker. What did you make of of some
of the booming there in the second half from the fans?
Those are probably the same fans that won't be quiet
while we're on offense and trying to operate. So I
don't really care. I love it. He's got a red ass.
He's got a red ass, he's banged up, he's not
playing well. It's a big year maybe contractually for him,
and that's what it is. He wanted that contract coming
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into this season, all right, we all know that he
wanted the contract. Every every time you you get one
game down, your one game removed from making the case
of why you should get an extension even though you
still have time left on your contract. And and he
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didn't play. He didn't play well, really, he didn't play
at a very high level. What he did do was
gut through and power through the pain of what he's
dealing with physically, and he made some really timely plays, uh,
even with you know, the bum hill and and just
the soreness that he's dealing with. But the throws were
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were short, they were low, they were inaccurate. Uh. He
threw an interception that was you know, it was a
bad throw. He just he just didn't play well in
the passing game. And I think the frustrating part for
him is you get a win against a team that
can't win games, and it was not in it an
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oppressive fashion. And and interviewing him during the week, the
one thing that he made very clear and his interview
was I want to be at eighty percent completion percentage,
and I want to have it. I want to have
more explosive plays like going into the game. That was
his main focus. And I'll pass this off to you, Brady.
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You tell me, even regardless of the contract situation, if
a quarterback is looking to to find his rhythm and
find those explosive plays and get that high completion percentage,
you're gonna want to do it against a team that
can't win games. Right. I mean, I'm sure every quarterbacks
thing that going into playing the Lions right now, right
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especially the way they've looked on tape, what they've given up.
Everyone's looking their chops saying I want to be completion percentage.
I want to create explosive plays, have big games. The
Lions are well aware of that too, like they're well
aware of trying to limit the amount of big plays
that they're given and improve on defense. So this is
the NFL. It's not college where you know, he's probably
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looking back at some of the program and saying, we're
gonna lay a big number on Kansas here, right. I
just I think this is more the what I see,
at least from him, is he wanted to contract. You know,
there are six and five football team. They gotta win.
It feels like they lost for whatever reason, and he's
frustrating because of how he's feeling physically. I mean, he's
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banged up, he's hurting everywhere, non throwing shoulder, throwing shoulder.
Yet you know someone's at ribs. He had an anchor
and there's all this different stuff going on right now
and he's not getting any credit for it. Like Baker
Mayfield through. Really, when you think about how he came
onto Texas Tech, he had a phenomenal freshman year, was
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the Big twelve Newcomer of the Year. Um, we can
get into how he was a walk on whatever else
and whether or not that was legit, But I digress.
He goes to Oklahoma, he ends up helping them win
a Big twelve championship, comes back the next year, you know,
wins the Highsman, they go to We'll have a shot
to play for a national championship. Like he's done, He's
got nothing. He comes to his rookie year, he sets
(21:41):
the touchdown record for rookies, you know, rookie quarterbacks. I mean,
he's done nothing but kind of received praise for the
most part. And even though there was a step back
at his second year, and we're kind of to this
point now, you know, he hasn't really received a lot
of criticism much in his career. And I think at
a point in time in which the Browns are turned
around from where they were, they we have to admit
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there are a much better football than before he got there.
And so not only are they a better team, but
they're winning and he's playing through a lot of stuff
and no one's giving him credit for it. So I
think that's the frustrating part is on the outside, everyone's
asking the question, is he worth a franchise, you know,
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quarterback money? And on the inside, he's like, dude, I'm
just doing my best to get on the field every Sunday,
and you guys can't even appreciate that. Like, you guys
can't even appreciate like we're playing a team that was
where we were, what four years ago, when they didn't
wear win a game or won one game. He's like,
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we are so far removed from that, and yet you
can't even appreciate a win when I'm out here struggling
to just stay on the field and stay healthy at
this point, like I'm doing this for our team. And
so I think that's the frustrating part is you know
how he's been able to fight through stuff, but he's
not receiving any credit for And that's the reality of
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the NFL. Like we do. I do a segment with
Pe Prisco every week. He picks out a bad offensive
lineman who had a bad week, bad game. He picked
on Quentin Nelson last week or two weeks ago. Excuse
me now. And I said to him, I said, you
know they won the game, and he's like, yeah, but
he didn't play well. I go, he's got an ankle
that needs surgery, is trying to play through because it
doesn't matter he's in there playing. That's in a nutshell
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the perception of every media member out there and every
fan out there who doesn't understand what players are going
through at this point time this season, and it's frustrating.
I was a part of a bad team in case,
dealing with a bunch of different injuries, and I was
just trying to get through the end of the season,
as bad as we were as a team and as
bad as it was going. But I didn't want to
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go on I R. I easily could have went on
I R, got my shoulder, looked at an operating I
had some stuff done. I chose not to. But like,
that's what people don't understand that's going on behind the
scenes many times at this point time in the season.
And also I'm not saying this is only because of
Baker Mayfield, because they have gotten better roster wise elsewhere,
but look, it's it's I don't think it's any coincidence
(24:08):
that this organization turned around when Baker Mayfield became the
starting quarterback. We can say whatever you want about while
he's a game manager. He's not worth a big contract.
All I know is when they opened up a bunch
of bud Light fridges around the country because the Browns
finally won a game. It was because Baker Mayfield came
in and bailed him out. So that's probably also him saying, look,
I remember what it was like when I got here.
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It was awful. It was it was a complete train wreck.
I've seen what has happened. We were a playoff team
a year ago. We want a playoff game a year ago.
And I'm gutting through all these injuries, and he's frustrated,
and he's probably tired of hearing the noise from from
a lot of people out there. And he absolutely does
read and listen and hear everything based on and that's
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where I would just say this about him. He has
shown maturity where the old Baker probably would have went
answered questions and snapped at a few reports and grabbed
his crotch afterwards if and maybe done that right or
you know, like on that video you said yeah, or
the lugs one you said we were the police. But
that's like there is some maturity in him not going there.
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But on the flip side, then you see like this
part of it where he still gets triggered by them
and it's like, dude, they got to do their job too,
just just like play chess, not checkers. Be one step
above and ahead of them. You don't need to get
so emotional about their questions and what they say. You know,
it doesn't need to be personal because it's not like
help bring them into what you're dealing with and the
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like the human side of things and not have to
put up these walls around it. So like, even though
he's still showing some growth the maturity, it's like it's
just still there, man, Like he's just still trying to
grow into that being more mature. With how he handles
the media. I will say he's a likable dude, though
when you meet him, I didn't. I don't. I try
to stay away from personal feelings on players just because
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we have to talk about them every them tucks on him,
trust me, Like, I'm just saying how he how he
acts towards anyone who's interviewing was a part of the media,
regardless of intimate or not. There's also that side that
you're not seeing. But yeah, yeah, it's just I don't
invest too much into it one way or the other.
But it's you know, like if you've talked to somebody,
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like like when I when I met Earl, Earl Thomas.
I was like, I don't like him. I just don't
like this dude. And and and that what you know,
there's certain people you'll meet and you'd be like, oh,
he's likable. There's certain dudes that you you meet and
it's like, you know, I don't like him at all.
And you know, Baker came across as a likable dude,
(26:41):
and that was something that previous to that happening for me,
I just didn't you know, have a like a like
for him. But you know, that was just a personal moment.
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and someone explains this to me, Yes, please, did Lebron
punch Isaiah Stewart? How has he only suspended one game?
He didn't escalate it. They're saying he elboating, and he elboating,
(27:49):
good elbow. I think he threw a backhand like elboating.
Whatever he did, it was intentional. You can make the
case that that's what escalated it. And look, I'm a
Lebron fan, but I'm I'm willing to sit there and
say to you, when a dude it's wrong, he's wrong. Well, well,
while we're discussing that, because the one takeaway I took
(28:11):
like this is this is just how I work. Right,
If you are going to jump up in somebody's face,
I don't care who it is Lebron, I don't. I
don't care. At the point in time you decide that
you're going to jump up in somebody's face, don't just
jump up in their face. Get a shot in. Man,
You're gonna wait all that time for this? Is this
is what I hate about tough dudes, right, I think
(28:32):
they're really really tough, because there's a difference between a
real tough dude and and a fake tough guy. All right,
if I'm ready to go, like if if I get
hit in my face like that, and and and listen,
I'm not speaking hypothetically because I've been in enough practices
where I could give you a hundred stories how I
whooped somebody's ass or I got my own, I got jumped,
(28:53):
and and and that's just what it is sometimes in practices.
If you're going to thump, then thump. Don't get up
in the dudes face. You up in Lebron's face looking
at him, saying what you're gonna say, Nah, grabbing by
his knack or but popp him in his face or
give him a shot in his gut, something like that.
You're gonna wait. You got all that time to do
(29:15):
whatever it is you're gonna do with Lebron right there
in your face, who already bust your face up, And
you're gonna wait until they start grabbing you. And now
you want to start acting crazy and running around and
chasing after him. You ain't getting a Lebron after you
had your opportunity. You were not going to get close
to that man again, and you knew it. So all
(29:35):
you did was proved to the entire world because I
went viral across the world. All you did would show
that you're a fake tough guy. You're a fake tough guy.
You're not You're not really You ain't really about that smoke,
you ain't about that life. Don't ever act as though
you're gonna fight with somebody, because you're not that guy.
And I wanted to get that. So I'm glad Isaiah Stewart.
(29:57):
I had the opportunity to bring you up. But because Brady,
I listen, if you go on, thump, then thump, Yeah,
that's that's That's what comes out to, just a simple
simple head butt to the bridge of the nose. That's
why you want to know why I got a two
games suspension for fake tough guy stuff. That's what he
(30:17):
got one for, really like for for the incident. Then
he got another one for being a fake tough guy.
Let me let me just say this too, though, Like
I know, eighty two games a long season. You know,
basketball in the NBA it's more physical than we give
it credit. Now. It ain't what it used to be,
but it's still more physical than we give him credit.
(30:39):
Then it takes a toll and all that. But I
do hate when basketball players try to make this whole
like football mentality or whatever, like, no, you're not not
even close, not even close, bro, Because here's the deal is,
football players don't take off time because of load management
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because they're sore. Like like we talked about Baker Mayfield,
he's playing through a lot of stuff right now, but
he's out there and he's doing it because he wants
to lead his team. You know, he understands how crucial
every game is now, being that they're six and five
in a tight division race, in a wide open a
f C playoff picture, he can't afford to take off
(31:23):
any time. There might be times of practice where he
takes off some periods or takes off a day, but
that's just so he can get to those games. So
I just like the whole load management thing and like
trying to compare yourself to a football player or toughness
or that mentality and ain't even close. Man, Different stratis
don't even You don't even have the luxury of allowing
(31:43):
somebody to come in and take your reps for load management,
Like I would be I'll be damn, I let somebody
come in and take my reps. Like they get out
there and they make a sack or they get two
sacks or oh my gosh, they got three sacks. It's like, wait,
we pay this animal weight. We can actually just uh,
(32:08):
that next contract for LaVar is well, let's see, that's
a workout bonus. That's uh, that's a roster bonus. So
we got to sign him to the roster. We're gonna say,
who wow, you know what, let's think about that. That's
what happens in football. You're not gonna have that happened
to Lebron James guaranteed. I'm not going ahead of happened
(32:29):
to them, guys. Man. So Lebron James, um, yeah, yeah.
He it was like a little short, little elbow punch
type of deal. But he did all that, like freaking
out and flipping out. He had a chance right there
in the moment. Listen, and I don't condone valance and
not definitely condoned being being composed and and showing restraint,
(32:52):
but you didn't. Hey, this is why frank Or has
all the pressure on him. Frank Or needs to get
it done when he fights. I gotta say this. I
gotta be honest with you here, right, Frank Gore is
a running back like that's like that's like that's like,
yeah he is. But you gotta understand there's levels to this. Okay,
all right, there's levels. Okay, So like le le, let
(33:14):
me give you a great example, right, if some s
popped off when we was in Iowa City while we
was double fisting and ah, the old brothers that this
is so fun. Let somebody have disrespected Brady and then
you'll find out what the levels are. You'll find out
what the levels of what that looks. Because Matt Line
or what have stepped in and because LaVar Arrington would
(33:36):
have tore holes in that bar, they would have had
to come repair the bar. I'm telling you it would
it would the dudes would I would have been wiping
that bar up, they would have been like what Jess happened?
There's levels. So what I'm saying is, if I'm out
with Frank Gore and we're all out, there are certain
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dudes that you're like, do if something pops off, I
know for certain that this is what Like there's even
levels for me, Like when I'm out with certain dudes.
I know there's levels for me, Like that's who I'm
gonna be here somewhere to pop off. That's who I'm
gonna be close to. Remember the god who is the reliever?
(34:23):
Remember when Bryce Harper got in a fight with the
reliever for the Giants? Uh god, okay, what's that? What's
that guy's name? Reliever for the anyways? Um who cares?
But but the point is, the point is in the scrub.
But the point is the point is, Yeah, the point
is in the scrum. The one guy who made the
(34:44):
most noise was Jeff Somarja. Remember when he ran from
the dugout. He he gave he gave his own teammate
a concussion, and it was like you could tell, right, Okay,
so that's the football player. That's the guy who played
football because he wiped out his own teammate. I think
it was Michael Morris. He gave him a concussion in
the fight because he just couldn't wait to get Let
(35:06):
me just summarize ab us saying this, like when when
the laarat speaking to the levels of it, Just think
about this, all right, Like offensive players their mindset, they're
incentivized by getting to the goal line, like they get
to touch the football, all right, they get to touch
the ball like they're a they're a product of that,
like they get excited, they're their motivation is getting that
(35:28):
ball across the goal on but they get to be
a part of that. Sometimes it gets to be them.
When you play defense, that's not your motivation, Like your
entire mindset is I want to destroy the person across
from me, whoever has that ball, like you're every single play,
your entire mindset is I want to kill the person
(35:51):
who I need to kill to go hit the person
with the football. Like it is such a different mindset
to explain to people that. That's why it's like don't, don't,
don't make the comparison, like but but here's the thing,
though old lineman, certain oldlignment, there's levels to this. It's
all about certain tight ends, certain tight ends. There's levels
(36:12):
to this thing. Like Jeremy Shaki, there's levels to it.
Like if min Shaki are out, it's like if something
if something bad is about to happen, we gotta go,
like we gotta, we gotta go now, like two pads
go directly home, like do not collect you hundred dollars
not go home like there's certain dudes that you just know.
(36:35):
And my whole point of this is not to be
on no mo chiese moo type stuff. What I'm saying is,
if you're gonna be throwing trash cans around and and
trying to move coaches and your teammates out of the
way and and ushers get off of me with your
bloody face and all of this and all of that,
you should have thumped right then and there, thump now
(36:56):
or forever hold your piece. Everything he did, everything he
did after that moment had me looking at this dude like,
you're a clown, bro, a big old, tall, long clown,
and you made you made an ass of yourself and
your family because there's somebody that's sitting at home that
when he was a kid, they would have made him
go back around the block and he would have had
(37:17):
to shoot a fair one with him. Real talk, that's
real talk. Man. You can't do all that, all that
late that you're late. Don't be late, don't be lady.
Right there, Lebron was right there in his face like
what's up? Like, what's up? I did it? I blooded
your face? You see your nose your lip. That was me.
I'm right here in front of you. You did nothing,
(37:41):
so stop it. Wow, good for you. I feel bad.
I'd be boxing him out. I'll be boxing him out
every time. I'm just saying, thump now or forever, hold yours.
That should be a T shirt. Right there, coffee right that.
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