December 7, 2021 • 40 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the Patriots win over the Bills on a windy Monday Night Football. Miami lures Mario Cristobal away from Oregon. Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit tragically dies at Santa Anita and the end of an era in Los Angeles.
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right what everybody thought? We don't gotta worry about them anymore.
I just we don't gotta worry about them anymore. The
Patriots back, baby, My Patriots back, Bill BELI Patriots. I've
been riding that horse all year long. I told ye definitely, Yeah,
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you're definitely riding it. What's Bill Belichick? In factuation? With
big running backs and big running backs with dreadlocks? You
ever noticed that that man loves him some big as
running backs with dread looking blunt blunt some uh who
else did he have? Man, it's it's been a few, yeah,
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he um man, there's been a few. I'd have to
do the homework on it. But when when they do
a documentary on his career after it's all said and
done and they talk about just his genius and his coaching,
a bit like this is gonna be one of the
games they point to right to where he just went
in and figured a way out throwing attempting three passes
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and winning on the road in a huge division game
on Monday night in those conditions just awesome. Put everybody
on notice. Awesome. I'll tell you that they can win
in a variety of ways like that. That's what makes
them so dangerous as they walk into any game, and
it doesn't matter the conditions, Like what other conditions can
be the ultimate equalizer? Like I sat at ann Arbor, Michigan,
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and when the snow started coming down, the wind started
to pick up, the temperature dropped, I was like, you know,
this isn't good for a team like Ohio State that's
got a quarterback who likes to throw the football around.
It really hasn't played in these sort of conditions. And
lo and behold what happened. Michigan ran all over them.
Like I just witnessed that firsthand two weeks ago, and
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this was the same thing. And I've played in games
like this now in Cleveland and Buffalo, there were some
cold games. There was a couple of windy games. No
nothing with the combination of what we saw last night.
But in Cleveland there's a game we played against Pittsburgh
and then that win was whipping and it was freezing
out there, very similar where we had to adjust everything
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we're gonna do, basically to run the football through a
little bit when we had the win going a certain
direction and that was it. But that's the thing about
this Patriots team that makes them so dangerous is I
don't care who they play the rest of the year,
and especially if they're gonna have the number one overall
seed in the a f C, that there's a likelihood
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that may happen in Foxborough in the playoffs, so you
might have to play in that. They know how to
play and they know how to win in it. I'll
tell you what. The defensive scheme. As a defensive minded guy,
that defensive scheme was tremendous. They they got him off
his mark, they got him uncomfortable, they boxed them in.
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It was almost like it was a it was a
Mike Vick defensive game plan. You know, you you stuck
to the inside, you forced the double teams, and then
you stunt outside of the inside stunt. So so in
other words, in layman's terms, the outside guys in the defense,
we're forcing double teams on the offensive lineman. The offensive
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lineman were we're basically making sure that they got the
inside guy. The inside guy is always considered to be
the most dangerous guy. The closest guy to the quarterback
is the most dangerous guy to the quarterback. So now
you're you're stemming out and you're maintaining the contain. All
they did was forced Buffalo to play in a phone
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booth in last night's game, and we're actually good enough
and physical enough to do it. That's the thing about it.
That's what really shocked me. I think I knew their
their defense was pretty good. I've been big. I mean,
Judeon has been a grown ass man out there. I
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learned last night how how good they are up front
with the way they move and how efficient and listen
with McCardy and them back there. I know that their
secondary has struggled at times, but schematically speaking, if they're
able to do what they were able to do last
night up front, it makes it easier for their secondary
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to be able to be, you know, more effective in
the passing game because the quarterback is basically under duress.
So I'll tell you what, I give New England on
defense a ton of credit for the way that they
approached that game plan. Against the Buffalo Bills. It's buffaloes
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and effectiveness more to do with the weather or more
to do with what the Patriots were doing, because it's
all part of it. Because in the reason I asked
that is Belichick came out this week and he was
just effusive with his praise of Josh Allen. You know,
you can't fool him with stuff, his development, his girl,
like over the top complimentary. And I just wonder if
Belichick really felt confident going into this game like I
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got something for him, like I got something for him.
And then seeing the conditions, the way that they were
just played into all if you're looking at the way
they had their defensive front aligned, I mean at times
they would bring secondary guys that they would switch it up,
they changed up coverages. They just I think that Belichick,
knowing what the weather was going to be dialed up,
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you know, him and his coaching staff doubt up a
game plan that was purely based off of do not
allow them to get the edges, keep them inside, keep
Allen inside, keep the run game inside, keep everything inside.
And that's what they did. I mean, you gotta execute,
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but they executed. And I think that that's where the
confidence came from Brady. I gotta be honest with you.
I thought I thought we might see josh Allen Carey
the football like twenty times um, just with those conditions
and everything else, I thought that was their best chance
of having some effectiveness running the football because I think
it was both. I think it was it was the
weather and the fact that it was gonna force Buffalo
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to run the football more than they want to. I
think they've gotten away from it last year than into
this year where they they're really not a run first team.
They're they're a past first team. And it wasn't all
on Josh Allen. I mean Stefan Diggs had a drop
for a touchdown. You can make the case Dawson Knox
could have had another one that would have been tight.
And there are there are a number of throws that,
Like we all think that when there's win like that,
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it's only only puts pressure on the quarterbacks and kickers
or punters. No, it makes it harder for receivers too.
I mean, that's the hardest part of the job is
they're trying to pick up that football in those sorts
of conditions where especially if it's like snowy, and it's
hard to pick the ball up out of the quarterback's hand.
But then once you do, now that things are moving,
like it's a curveball or it's a slider, I mean,
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it becomes harder to catch because the winds inevitably gonna
move it. So, you know, I think it was both.
I think it was no doubt the scheme. I mean,
credit the pageots for what they did. But if that's
a a calm, forty degree win at five mile hour
a day, let's be real. But maybe I don't care
what scheme. Yeah, I don't care what scheme they put
out there, though, Buffalo is gonna play that game different
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they unfortunately because of the win, because the conditions, had
to play a game that they don't excel at so
that the digs drop for the touchdown. Because they were
talking about, you know, the ball was moving, but it
hit him in the forearm when he was trying to
make the grab and he was trying to adjust to it.
So that's that's a that's a really tough catch in
those conditions, correct, Yeah, Oh my god, I mean it's again,
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you could have seen in warm ups. I don't know
if you saw any the warm up pre game guys
were just throwing the ball up in the air and
then trying to get a fuel for how the wind's
gonna move it. If you ever play in that stadium though,
you know it could be a swirling wind. Like the
wind can change in there too, So it's it's a
really tough stadium to get a fuel for as a
quarterback and for as a kicker, let alone you know,
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being a receiver someone who's out there trying to you know,
haul in some of those deeper passes or passes further downfield.
I always say as a coach, we all have the
same conditions we gotta play in. So I looked at you,
I'm gonna look at you in your eyes, and I'm
be like, hey, look here, they got the same wind
you do. They had the same weather. Can you do?
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So either either we are going to to execute what
our game plan is and we're going to execute it
where we can come away with this victory, or we're
gonna allow for for the conditions to dictate our outcomes.
And and so to me, I looked at a team
last evening that was not able to and and mind
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you at home, you should have had the advantage. You
should have known what you needed to do more so,
and here's my thing I would ask you this, Brady,
once you realize that that New England's game plan on
defense was to stack the box and to make sure
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you were not able to gain the perimeter of of
the defense, I mean, you gotta adjust your your your
offensive scheme, right. You gotta have like to me, you
you gotta run things that are creating, creating you know,
opportunity within the center of the field, whether it be
screens to the center like those are obsolete. You know,
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people don't run center screens anymore. You you you know,
talking about possibly doing you know, flare passes. Maybe maybe
the only way you would have been able to get
access to to the outside or the perimeter of the
defense was to throw you know, quick quick swing pass
different things like that. I just didn't see the adjustment
that gave them the opportunity to kind of switch things
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up with New England. To Brady's point, Josh Allen and
they had six carries, so um they you know, they
as a team they had twenty five on the night
and New England had three. PA had the space he
only had six Carres, he didn't have the space to run.
When he got out there, he seemed like he was
the most productive back they had. Here's what I say is,
you can find ways of getting the edge. I don't
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care what a defense does. You can find ways of
getting to edges, finding cut off points, pinning, pulling, finding
ways of attacking and edge two. And it didn't seem
like a buffalo had a plan where they cared quite
as much. But you can. You can formationally find ways
of getting to edges. I don't care if it equates
to like unbalanced formations where I'm gonna literally take and
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go tackle over and put an eligible tight en on
one side, force your front to have to adjust, and
now I've got an else receiver at the tackle spot.
He was a tied end on the either side. Like
there's little wrinkles and things you can do to find
ways of getting the defense to either figure out how
they want to align to it or figure out ways
to get two shorter edges. And and obviously with josh
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Awen you can do a lot of things. He's athletic.
You know, whether it's a speed option at an edge,
things like that to kind of kick the ball or
just get it to the perimeter Allen's space. Like that's why.
I mean, this is probably the biggest surprise to me
was the under. The over under never really changed. I
mean I was looking at this thinking, anyone who's seeing
this like these pregame conditions should be thinking to themselves, Um,
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I'm gonna hammer the under here, like there's no doubt
about it, Like there's no way you're gonna see a
bunch of scoring in this and it kind of held
intact for the most partly. I'm shocked this thing didn't
get hammered down to like somewhere in thirty at thirty
six points, it stayed at forty. That it's still I mean,
there was never even a chance it was gonna be
that close to it, So, um, I just look, the
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wind conditions obviously played to me a huge, huge, uh
factor in the outcome of the game and what ended
up being now where Bill Belichick's back, then he's back.
I mean, it's something I don't I don't know if
anyone loves it because they're so tired of singing, and
the worst part is now they're doing it. It's like
he could coach for that are decade with Mac Jones
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and what they have. I'll tell you the interesting thing
about New England was they accessed the outside of the
Buffalo defense. That's they went either inside tackle or they
went off tackle it. They overloaded and they got to
the perimeters of of the defense running the ball. They
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grinded it out. They came out there with the idea
that they were going to grind it out and get
to the get to the outside of the Buffalo Bills defense.
They either overloaded with poolers or they went straight to it.
They went straight wide handoffs, take this handoff, get what
you can get to the outside. And then it worked.
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I mean, one team execute at one team didn't. What
a fun watch man, just with the conditions and all that.
By the way, you know, probably not necessary to have
the pregame crew out there with those wins. Look like
Susie Culver was going to get blown off her chair
at one point. I mean, good Christ, They've got Alex
Smith throwing a fade route to Randy Moss. I mean,
what are we doing that? It looked like it was
a tubble week. It's like a dog took a bite
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out of a nerve football and he's trying to complete it, like,
what do we do it here? We don't. We don't
need all that. You can show off your cleats elsewhere.
I'm just glad they showed the anchor bar. That's all.
I was just happy they showed that. Did they show that?
I actually that you didn't see that. I didn't see
that party. I'm not unfamiliar with that, you know, listen,
I'm just unfamiliar with that. But looks check head on
that blue hoodie though. Yeah, yeah, very very stylish. By
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the way, afterwards, he's going with this news. Did you
see that bubble coat? Yeah, I had a little bubble coat,
a little little stylish there. Yeah. When it's cold like that,
you can't think about fashion. You just got to go
straight for whatever it's warm. Alright, Um, that was a
pretty fashionable bubble cut. It was Mac Jones wearing scuba suit.
He was wearing a scuba suit under Yeah, yeah, scooba
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suit or just a wets. I don't know who that.
Somebody said scuba. Who cares? It sounds like you said scuba,
Well yeah, because I read it said scuba. I'm not
a scuba diver. I don't. I don't really start to
stay away from scuba instructors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because when
you come back to come and pick them up, you know,
you know, yeah, yeah, they're on the boats scuba diving. Yeah.
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Are you for scuba rubet? Yeah, you know, like a
a hippo. It was, you know, a hippo. You keep
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here on fisode, right, I think we need an intervention.
Bro okay, alright. Every single day we say this, I'm
telling you because every single time he says and does
something that just it concerns me. I'm concerned for you. Brady.
What's the mascot for? Tcuh? The horn frog? Take out
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the frog? That's your buddy over here. Are weird man?
You are? You keep it in a sports you see
Howard Smith, how he tried to be creative and trying
to say that college football, that's what I do college football.
You know it is a horn frog with one eye.
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Such a weird thing to say. All right, later this
hour we are going to have another edition of in
case you missed it, and by the way, um, we
will have it being hosted by the Great lead to
Lap who just got off a flight four minutes ago.
He made it back. He made it back, He made it.
He made it from Jamaica, Queens. He is back. And
if he tells you he's a he's a lying a hole.
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He is not a hundred percent at all. But he
is fighting through it and you know, dealing with whatever
jet lag or whatever. His sweatsuit. His sweatsuit is definitely
Jamaica queens no out. If he had had some tims on,
I have been like yo, Son, I've been like yo, Yo,
what up? Son? What did it do? Son? Everything? Cool? God?
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You know what I mean? I call you son because
you signed like one, not because you are my son.
You know what I'm saying. Um, let me ask you this.
Uh did what I'm saying? God? Do you have no
idea what you're saying? That's right? I know, But but
now Lee does. Lee knows what I mean. Now you
just make a quaintly. Lee watches the fifty cent TV shows.
Now you know he's gonna get stars. He's got TV
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shows now to watch. Power didn't make enough money on
Vitamin Water. He made enough, but he's making way more
doing these TV show. Good for him, They're really good. Um.
Lee's going to be in the next episode, you know,
is he? Yeah? Yeah? Not surprising me neither. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm gonna leave that joke. I'm gonna leave it there too.
Like the horn frollright, all right, So the the organ
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docks they are, you know, looking around going all right,
so now what because Goose Mario Christo Ball is uh,
he's in Miami. Yeah, he's got a Miami family issues. Yeah,
that's true. Um, And and that is legitimate. His mom
is sick and so he's going there. But there's other
family issues taking places, and that Cavon Thibodeaux has decided, Uh,
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you know, that Bowl game gonna go ahead and pass.
Uh and then um for that reason, and Goose and
Manny Diaz is not happy. He feels, you know, the
way the whole hiring process was handled is um is
not right. Um, But he's okay with you know, tell
him Temple yes. And then eighteen days later taking the
Miami job. But never mind all that, We just we
move on from stories of two years ago. Uh. The
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hiring process, it was a weird one, but it felt
like Brady, this is the way this was gonna go um,
And it was just a matter of time before they
moved on. Let me be real with you guys. They
were trying to move on from many ideas last year
and they didn't find a candidate that really motivated them
enough to move No different than Southern cal with Clay Hilton,
who was sniffing around a bunch of head coaches, Urban
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Meyer in particular, that they you know, they wanted to
move on too, but they couldn't get anyone to commit
to that job. So this is this has been in
the making for a while. Many das couldn't have been
surprised by this. The crazy part about how this whole
thing is orchestrated. It's not the fact that Mario Cristo
Baal was out recruiting and all these rumors started to surface.
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We we saw that, you know, for the past ten
days in college football. What was crazy is the fact
that they fired their athletic director Blake James, and they
really hadn't officially hired their athletic director Dan Radovitch I
believe his name from Clemson is now going to become
their A D. But they had already selected who they
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wanted as the head coach first and and those negotiations
were already ongoing. So they really were putting the head
coach before the athletics director, which is who the head
coach is gonna have to kind of answer too. Even
though ultimately, when you get a ten million to or
a ten year eighty million dollar contract, uh, the head
coach answers to pretty much no one. He just has
to succeed and he'll be fine. So that was the
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more of the oddity to this situation that Miami knew
the coach they wanted. It made sense there was mutual interest.
Mario wanted to get back down because of his family
ties and some personal situations going on. But I'm gonna
tell you, man, this lends me to think that he
will be able to bring the you back. And I
also think it is it's a bad look for the
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Pack twelve, only because I know Lincoln's going to Southern
cal and you know he'll be able to turn that
thing around relatively quick. But you just lost a guy
who helped make Oregon kind of back into it, I
don't say a national contender, but into the national conversation
this year. And since he's gotten there with the way
he recruited, now he's taking those skills to South Florida
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and and you can say whatever you want about Southern
California what Lincoln Rother was gonna do there. If Mario
Cristoval keeps all the talent justin Broward and Dade County alone,
the um will be back. It will be back, and
people are gonna be like, where did this come from? Now?
It's been a sleeping giant for a while. They just
needed someone to tap into it and stop letting all
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these kids out of South Florida. Per capita hands down
the most talent in the country. It's not even close.
People people talk about, you know, people plucking talent out
of southern California. It is all over the state of
Florida being plucked. And and if you look at how
the state's actually you know, if you cut out kind
of the recruiting map Palace designed, you kind of got Gainesville,
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Florida state in Miami and they all kind of recruit
their own area. But if those schools could just keep
all that talent in the Tampa area, in the you know,
Miami Dade, Brower like those areas, if they could just
keep that intact in the Jacksonville area, like, they would
all be successful again. And I think that's what they're
all aiming to do at this point moving forward. And
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so I'm telling you to give it, give it a
year or two that you will be back. They're not
that far off right now, and they're in an easy
a c C with Clemson has the only team to
really compete with Pitt I'm not, Well, it's Penn A
CEC didn't. They just went to a CEC did this year.
But Picket moves on, Addison moves on. A bunch of
players from that team will move on off the reload.
They seem to do pretty good reloading though they always
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have talent. It's the Miami team that hasn't been what
it is. Yeah, I'm not going to give them Snelling
Burger yet. I don't know that they're gonna rope it
off because recruiting has drastically changed, and you're right, it
is a hot bit and people are going to go
in there and they're going to pillage the the area
like they're they're just gonna take the top recruits in
and they're going to go to different schools in different areas.
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You know, when when I was coming up, you know,
we didn't come out of Virginia as far as we
would go as North Carolina South Carolina for teams like
you know, Penn State, And now you you take you
take a look, and it is a it's a real
culture shock, and it's funny because a lot of the
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things that you know, James Franklin has, and not to
try to make it about Penn State, but just to
give you an idea of why it's going to be
difficult for Crystal Ball to to be able to, you know,
rope off the area and keep those recruits. There is
is you're you're talking about cultural shocks, but people are
beginning to adapt and to adjust. To see somebody come
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up and and just take this for what it's worth,
our face value. To see a kid come to Penn
State and playball and has dreadlocks, culture shot. To see
a kid with gold gold gold fronts, culture shot. Right.
People are sitting there and they're like wholely s like
this is Penn State football. Right. So now it's becoming
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more and more understood and people are learning that you
don't need to judge people off of their appearance. The
kid has good grades, the the kid went through clearinghouse,
the kid is a good kid, comes from a good family.
Maybe he didn't come from a good family, but the
kid brings a value. You are dealing with schools that
are going to do that. University of Virginia, Virginia Tech
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just got Brent Pride, So Brent Pride is gonna go
down there. You're you're talking about mac at at Carolina
like it's going to be very difficult to rope that
place off and say we're keeping our our kids here
and they're not going anywhere. And now this in I
l stuff Like I know Miami has money because it's
a private, privately, you know, funded school. I'd get all that,
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But you ain't gonna hold off all of these major
programs just on what they're gonna be if I put
some money you want to make If you want to
make that statement about Southern Cow, you better make it
about South Florida, because I promise you this, some of
these kids don't want to leave. I don't think you're right,
and you're right, and Southern Cow is the same exact way.
That's why you just saw Alabama take take Georgia and
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wood Chadam what what uh? California quarterback a Pasadena kid?
All right? You just saw you you we see that
Clemson has has a California kid. There there's California kids.
Put it to you like this talent wise, like skill,
You're not gonna find any better skilled kids than Florida
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kids and Southern California kids. And you start getting into
like Lineman and stuff like that. Then that you're going
into different areas. But the bottom line to me is
who is offering the best opportunities to these kids as
they're coming out. It could be tuchaes A and m
It could be it could be Tuches Longhorns, it could
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be it could be anybody. At this point, it's just
based on what the best opportunity is that's presenting itself.
I think this N I L thing is gonna make
things a little bit more complex for for places like
a Broward County. If you know about Broward and you
know about Liberty City, and you know about all those
different areas, let me tell you something. UH offered them
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parents a thousand dollars a month. Oh yeah, go ahead.
It's still I mean, it's already been what's already existed
in the recruiting cycle. We've already seen it for But
now now you got to hide it. Well yeah, that's true,
but you don't have to hide it for the past year.
That the differences. Now you've got a guy who knows
how to get that done. Like the eighty million dollars
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they're spending on Mario, that's one thing there needs to
be another amount of money swinging in that's gonna be
allocated towards players for all that, which, again it's a
new it's a new landscape we see, for example, a
guy like because because here's the realities, the university can't
have any tie to the money being shelled out for
namames and likeness. Those are separate deals, so they really
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can't facilitate or be a part of any of that.
Much like Quinn yours who got paid a good amount. Well, no,
that's for real, Like, no, no, it is, but it's
it's because it's not air quotes. It's it's not. That's
actually law, Like that's not even that's not even up debate.
That's a law. The problem is you've got a guy
like Quinn yours, who's one of the top recruits. He
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goes to Ohio State and then he really he really
just reclassified and left early to get paid. That that
was all it was about, Like it was only about money.
Ohio State didn't want him to come a year earlier
than he should have. Not only does it make their
quarterback room a little uncomfortable, but the timing of all
in his eligibility doesn't work. But he wanted to do
it for his own sake and money, and that's fine,
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but that doesn't mean it's gonna work out at that school.
So look and I L S and I L Well,
we can talk about like like it's gonna have a
huge impact, and it will for some kids. Ultimately, what's
gonna have the biggest impact is if Miami comes back
and has a chance of winning a national championship, if
they're playing the a c C Championship next year, if
they aren't playing for a spot in the College Football playoff,
that's where the U is back. That's where you're gonna
(28:50):
see all these kids then stay and not want to
lead and want to be a part of what will
be a big party in South Florida. I just want
there to be a little bit of patience because, like
we've seen Jim Harbaugh, guy who Alma Mater, goes back
there and you know, takes a program that was down
and out and and gives them double digit win seasons
like three or four years or whatever it was. And yeah,
(29:10):
they struggled in the bowl games and he wasn't beating
his rivals, but he did turn the program around. People
were still bitching and moaning, well, no, it's not good enough.
It's not good enough. I just wonder what's the leash
gonna be like with Mario Christo ball, because he's won
a national title there. Uh, he was all Big East
as an offensive lineman there. He's got deep Miami roots
because he's from their family there everything. I just wonder
(29:33):
what it's going how long until people are going to
look around and go all right, we need to see
results now before they realize and this this program has
been a disaster for a while. I mean that that
Miami Florida state game was a joke. But still even
with hardball, he'll get one or two years, oh grace
after winning the Big Tent, and then they're going to
go right back to the same exact conversations. You gotta
(29:55):
beat Michigan, you gotta win the Big ten. Like it's
it's never going to end in terms of the intensity
of what the fan bases and the boosters and the
schools are gonna want and expect and demand. You're giving
out a hundred million dollar contracts now you're giving out
I mean you're you're you've taken the money to a
whole another place. If you look at Mario Cristo Ball's
roster at Oregon and a lot of people say it's
(30:16):
one of you know, he's one of the great recruiters
in football. It's majority Midwest left, so it's literally just
West Coast guys. So he figured out how to recruit
that side of the country. I think he already knows
this side. So if he can, if he can lure
some even bigger recruits from that side and bring him
over to Miami. Like if if you're if you're playing
football in Texas, or you're playing in New Mexico, or
(30:39):
you're you know, a guy up in Oregon and he's
already been talking to I mean, you're telling me you
wouldn't be interested in. All I'm gonna say is this.
It sounds good, like I hear the excitement. I appreciate it.
But you're not going to just sell these recruits on
on Miami based off of the history of Miami. That's
not gonna work. You're not going to just sell them
(30:59):
on South Beach. It's not gonna work. I'll tell you
what I spent. I spent an entire time rehabbing in
Coral Gables. They have a whole lot of work to
do facility wise, if they think that they're going to
start getting all the time, what years for that. I mean,
it's been a while, but I mean I've seen the places.
(31:20):
They already redid their indoor. I mean, they've done facility upgrades.
I've seen this facility upgrades. It's not it's not on
the level of of these these major like like Clemson
or or even Michigan or heck, even Penn State as
far back really hasn't changed much of what they have.
It's it's already extraordinary. It's pretty. Look at it's good,
but it has to be that way when you live
(31:41):
in a cool weather That's correct, that's correct, but it's there.
I don't know that that ultimately entices kids. They want
a chance to plan and they had a film and
play for national championship. Yeah, I just that conversation right now.
But exactly it does make them interesting again, correct, I
don't know. I mean I do I think. Look if
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when we grew up, Acciano made it interesting and and
he didn't get it done, yeah, I mean, but who
was my other guy that went there that that from Temple,
he was the guy that made it interesting. He would
he would have golden there, right, When did Shianna go
to Miami? Yeah, I meant golden from from I think
she did. Siano. Was he a defensive coordinator? No, I
(32:25):
meant al golden. Yeah. They kind of ran together on
Golden Schiano. I make the mistake. They're both pen staters.
There was a little bias there. You needed a pin
state guy to make Miami grade. Again, Shana may have
been there, like twenty years ago. I think he was. Yeah,
I think he was there. I think it was a
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I don't think he was ever a head coach. All right.
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Look at you and ready to rock that kind of man. Yeah,
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Not enough to do there, man, there's not enough to
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Uh sad news to relay here. Uh Medina spirit three
year old colt who had one in Kentucky Derby unfortunately
passed away over the weekend. Where at where Santa Anita
(36:22):
was waiting? Was he waiting on a fight? Did he did?
He go to two different bars, not waiting on a
Unfortunately they suffered a heart attack. He did not break
a leg like most a Hell's waiting room. They called
for horses Hell's waiting. More horses have died of Santa
Anita than in Game of Thrones, Like it is shocking
(36:43):
how it might as well be its own cemetery. The
should just create a cemetery right next to it. Dude,
in a single year they lost thirty. That's in Arcadia, right, Yeah,
you know what that's called. It's called a clue factory.
I think we're missing out. Gosh, should put one up
right next to the shop, like mommy daddy. Why is
(37:04):
there a tent on the track again? You know their renovations. Uh,
that's a different type of medical tent bedna get tent shortage. Yeah.
Why do they have a needle the size of javelin? Why?
You know they're working on some stuff. You go in
that tent, you ain't coming. Yeah, it is, I mean
every I mean every year there's a problem, now there
(37:25):
it is. Well. Also under scrutiny is Bob Baffort, by
the way, who is a three year old cult that
passed away just after winning the Kentucky Derby and he contaminated. Hey,
he already said that it was contaminant. It wasn't urine
in the hay or something like that. I was saying.
It was cream that they were using for a rash.
You know, of course it was. Yeah. I think he's
(37:47):
I think he's trying to get rid of the evidence.
You know, that's a good point. Bob Baffort. Remember he
tried to blame it on the guy who was cleaning
the stalls ated in there. Yeah, there was that guy's
fault that they say, you know, it was from the
hearse or a horse you're in. I mean, it's just
they're all over the place. They could come up with
an excuse fast enough to try to get out of that.
One yells. His name keeps coming up, though, Bob bafferm Man. Yeah, yeah,
(38:10):
I'll say in the horsing world though, he's like the Clintons.
You gotta be careful, man, I'm saying the Clintons. I'm saying,
you keep like you look at that that whole Epstein case.
All that stuff's going on right now. You better be
careful mentioning their name. There's a lot of way you
can see it. Yeah, they'll send you to sant Anita. Question. Oh,
(38:38):
don't be caught up in one of them stalls. But again,
thoughts and prayers to uh, you know, Dona Spirit and
his family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went. I'll take that
lee you guys. We would reported on it a few
weeks ago, and it is officially the end of an era.
They have started to take down the sign, the Staples
Center sign it was now the Crypto Arena era. Oh
Man Lewin the other day and the way the roof
(39:02):
looks on that bad boy, like who cares? Man? Man,
I really enjoyed going to Staple Center and watching the
Lakers losing the first round. As you see do you
see have you seen a roof on so Fi that
looks freaking amazing from the air? It was so Fie.
That's where our super Bowl is, man crazy, Yeah, that's
we're gonna get after it there. You're going to get
after it there. No, probably not. H You'll have three beers? Thanks, man,
(39:26):
be at thanks man, there is I'm not out of smoke.
He'll be smoke. Sorry, I'm a fishing off three beer. Sorry,
I'm Mac Jones. I need three to get a win,
all right, Like I don't need any more than that.
I'm not. I'm not here to three minutes to get
a win. Had three attempts though, and we had two completions.
And that's like finishing two beers. I'm finishing your third. Um.
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the name of the the arena. Now that's what we're
calling it. They're calling it the Crypto arena. But yeah,
it is cryptom, the crypt that's what they're calling it.
You know, only you'll only be able to wear blue
when you go there, is that true? Yeah? What happens
to you? You know, just you know, yeah, you get
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right what everybody thought? We don't gotta worry about them anymore.
I just we don't gotta worry about them anymore. The
Patriots back, baby, My Patriots back, Bill BELI Patriots. I've
been riding that horse all year long. I told ye definitely, Yeah,
(01:45):
you're definitely riding it. What's Bill Belichick? In factuation? With
big running backs and big running backs with dreadlocks? You
ever noticed that that man loves him some big as
running backs with dread looking blunt blunt some uh who
else did he have? Man, it's it's been a few, yeah,
(02:06):
he um man, there's been a few. I'd have to
do the homework on it. But when when they do
a documentary on his career after it's all said and
done and they talk about just his genius and his coaching,
a bit like this is gonna be one of the
games they point to right to where he just went
in and figured a way out throwing attempting three passes
(02:26):
and winning on the road in a huge division game
on Monday night in those conditions just awesome. Put everybody
on notice. Awesome. I'll tell you that they can win
in a variety of ways like that. That's what makes
them so dangerous as they walk into any game, and
it doesn't matter the conditions, Like what other conditions can
be the ultimate equalizer? Like I sat at ann Arbor, Michigan,
(02:48):
and when the snow started coming down, the wind started
to pick up, the temperature dropped, I was like, you know,
this isn't good for a team like Ohio State that's
got a quarterback who likes to throw the football around.
It really hasn't played in these sort of conditions. And
lo and behold what happened. Michigan ran all over them.
Like I just witnessed that firsthand two weeks ago, and
(03:09):
this was the same thing. And I've played in games
like this now in Cleveland and Buffalo, there were some
cold games. There was a couple of windy games. No
nothing with the combination of what we saw last night.
But in Cleveland there's a game we played against Pittsburgh
and then that win was whipping and it was freezing
out there, very similar where we had to adjust everything
(03:30):
we're gonna do, basically to run the football through a
little bit when we had the win going a certain
direction and that was it. But that's the thing about
this Patriots team that makes them so dangerous is I
don't care who they play the rest of the year,
and especially if they're gonna have the number one overall
seed in the a f C, that there's a likelihood
(03:50):
that may happen in Foxborough in the playoffs, so you
might have to play in that. They know how to
play and they know how to win in it. I'll
tell you what. The defensive scheme. As a defensive minded guy,
that defensive scheme was tremendous. They they got him off
his mark, they got him uncomfortable, they boxed them in.
(04:11):
It was almost like it was a it was a
Mike Vick defensive game plan. You know, you you stuck
to the inside, you forced the double teams, and then
you stunt outside of the inside stunt. So so in
other words, in layman's terms, the outside guys in the defense,
we're forcing double teams on the offensive lineman. The offensive
(04:33):
lineman were we're basically making sure that they got the
inside guy. The inside guy is always considered to be
the most dangerous guy. The closest guy to the quarterback
is the most dangerous guy to the quarterback. So now
you're you're stemming out and you're maintaining the contain. All
they did was forced Buffalo to play in a phone
(04:55):
booth in last night's game, and we're actually good enough
and physical enough to do it. That's the thing about it.
That's what really shocked me. I think I knew their
their defense was pretty good. I've been big. I mean,
Judeon has been a grown ass man out there. I
(05:17):
learned last night how how good they are up front
with the way they move and how efficient and listen
with McCardy and them back there. I know that their
secondary has struggled at times, but schematically speaking, if they're
able to do what they were able to do last
night up front, it makes it easier for their secondary
(05:38):
to be able to be, you know, more effective in
the passing game because the quarterback is basically under duress.
So I'll tell you what, I give New England on
defense a ton of credit for the way that they
approached that game plan. Against the Buffalo Bills. It's buffaloes
(05:58):
and effectiveness more to do with the weather or more
to do with what the Patriots were doing, because it's
all part of it. Because in the reason I asked
that is Belichick came out this week and he was
just effusive with his praise of Josh Allen. You know,
you can't fool him with stuff, his development, his girl,
like over the top complimentary. And I just wonder if
Belichick really felt confident going into this game like I
(06:20):
got something for him, like I got something for him.
And then seeing the conditions, the way that they were
just played into all if you're looking at the way
they had their defensive front aligned, I mean at times
they would bring secondary guys that they would switch it up,
they changed up coverages. They just I think that Belichick,
knowing what the weather was going to be dialed up,
(06:43):
you know, him and his coaching staff doubt up a
game plan that was purely based off of do not
allow them to get the edges, keep them inside, keep
Allen inside, keep the run game inside, keep everything inside.
And that's what they did. I mean, you gotta execute,
(07:04):
but they executed. And I think that that's where the
confidence came from Brady. I gotta be honest with you.
I thought I thought we might see josh Allen Carey
the football like twenty times um, just with those conditions
and everything else, I thought that was their best chance
of having some effectiveness running the football because I think
it was both. I think it was it was the
weather and the fact that it was gonna force Buffalo
(07:25):
to run the football more than they want to. I
think they've gotten away from it last year than into
this year where they they're really not a run first team.
They're they're a past first team. And it wasn't all
on Josh Allen. I mean Stefan Diggs had a drop
for a touchdown. You can make the case Dawson Knox
could have had another one that would have been tight.
And there are there are a number of throws that,
Like we all think that when there's win like that,
(07:47):
it's only only puts pressure on the quarterbacks and kickers
or punters. No, it makes it harder for receivers too.
I mean, that's the hardest part of the job is
they're trying to pick up that football in those sorts
of conditions where especially if it's like snowy, and it's
hard to pick the ball up out of the quarterback's hand.
But then once you do, now that things are moving,
like it's a curveball or it's a slider, I mean,
(08:10):
it becomes harder to catch because the winds inevitably gonna
move it. So, you know, I think it was both.
I think it was no doubt the scheme. I mean,
credit the pageots for what they did. But if that's
a a calm, forty degree win at five mile hour
a day, let's be real. But maybe I don't care
what scheme. Yeah, I don't care what scheme they put
out there, though, Buffalo is gonna play that game different
(08:31):
they unfortunately because of the win, because the conditions, had
to play a game that they don't excel at so
that the digs drop for the touchdown. Because they were
talking about, you know, the ball was moving, but it
hit him in the forearm when he was trying to
make the grab and he was trying to adjust to it.
So that's that's a that's a really tough catch in
those conditions, correct, Yeah, Oh my god, I mean it's again,
(08:52):
you could have seen in warm ups. I don't know
if you saw any the warm up pre game guys
were just throwing the ball up in the air and
then trying to get a fuel for how the wind's
gonna move it. If you ever play in that stadium though,
you know it could be a swirling wind. Like the
wind can change in there too, So it's it's a
really tough stadium to get a fuel for as a
quarterback and for as a kicker, let alone you know,
(09:15):
being a receiver someone who's out there trying to you know,
haul in some of those deeper passes or passes further downfield.
I always say as a coach, we all have the
same conditions we gotta play in. So I looked at you,
I'm gonna look at you in your eyes, and I'm
be like, hey, look here, they got the same wind
you do. They had the same weather. Can you do?
(09:37):
So either either we are going to to execute what
our game plan is and we're going to execute it
where we can come away with this victory, or we're
gonna allow for for the conditions to dictate our outcomes.
And and so to me, I looked at a team
last evening that was not able to and and mind
(09:59):
you at home, you should have had the advantage. You
should have known what you needed to do more so,
and here's my thing I would ask you this, Brady,
once you realize that that New England's game plan on
defense was to stack the box and to make sure
(10:21):
you were not able to gain the perimeter of of
the defense, I mean, you gotta adjust your your your
offensive scheme, right. You gotta have like to me, you
you gotta run things that are creating, creating you know,
opportunity within the center of the field, whether it be
screens to the center like those are obsolete. You know,
(10:44):
people don't run center screens anymore. You you you know,
talking about possibly doing you know, flare passes. Maybe maybe
the only way you would have been able to get
access to to the outside or the perimeter of the
defense was to throw you know, quick quick swing pass
different things like that. I just didn't see the adjustment
that gave them the opportunity to kind of switch things
(11:07):
up with New England. To Brady's point, Josh Allen and
they had six carries, so um they you know, they
as a team they had twenty five on the night
and New England had three. PA had the space he
only had six Carres, he didn't have the space to run.
When he got out there, he seemed like he was
the most productive back they had. Here's what I say is,
you can find ways of getting the edge. I don't
(11:28):
care what a defense does. You can find ways of
getting to edges, finding cut off points, pinning, pulling, finding
ways of attacking and edge two. And it didn't seem
like a buffalo had a plan where they cared quite
as much. But you can. You can formationally find ways
of getting to edges. I don't care if it equates
to like unbalanced formations where I'm gonna literally take and
(11:50):
go tackle over and put an eligible tight en on
one side, force your front to have to adjust, and
now I've got an else receiver at the tackle spot.
He was a tied end on the either side. Like
there's little wrinkles and things you can do to find
ways of getting the defense to either figure out how
they want to align to it or figure out ways
to get two shorter edges. And and obviously with josh
(12:11):
Awen you can do a lot of things. He's athletic.
You know, whether it's a speed option at an edge,
things like that to kind of kick the ball or
just get it to the perimeter Allen's space. Like that's why.
I mean, this is probably the biggest surprise to me
was the under. The over under never really changed. I
mean I was looking at this thinking, anyone who's seeing
this like these pregame conditions should be thinking to themselves, Um,
(12:34):
I'm gonna hammer the under here, like there's no doubt
about it, Like there's no way you're gonna see a
bunch of scoring in this and it kind of held
intact for the most partly. I'm shocked this thing didn't
get hammered down to like somewhere in thirty at thirty
six points, it stayed at forty. That it's still I mean,
there was never even a chance it was gonna be
that close to it, So, um, I just look, the
(12:54):
wind conditions obviously played to me a huge, huge, uh
factor in the outcome of the game and what ended
up being now where Bill Belichick's back, then he's back.
I mean, it's something I don't I don't know if
anyone loves it because they're so tired of singing, and
the worst part is now they're doing it. It's like
he could coach for that are decade with Mac Jones
(13:16):
and what they have. I'll tell you the interesting thing
about New England was they accessed the outside of the
Buffalo defense. That's they went either inside tackle or they
went off tackle it. They overloaded and they got to
the perimeters of of the defense running the ball. They
(13:36):
grinded it out. They came out there with the idea
that they were going to grind it out and get
to the get to the outside of the Buffalo Bills defense.
They either overloaded with poolers or they went straight to it.
They went straight wide handoffs, take this handoff, get what
you can get to the outside. And then it worked.
(13:59):
I mean, one team execute at one team didn't. What
a fun watch man, just with the conditions and all that.
By the way, you know, probably not necessary to have
the pregame crew out there with those wins. Look like
Susie Culver was going to get blown off her chair
at one point. I mean, good Christ, They've got Alex
Smith throwing a fade route to Randy Moss. I mean,
what are we doing that? It looked like it was
a tubble week. It's like a dog took a bite
(14:24):
out of a nerve football and he's trying to complete it, like,
what do we do it here? We don't. We don't
need all that. You can show off your cleats elsewhere.
I'm just glad they showed the anchor bar. That's all.
I was just happy they showed that. Did they show that?
I actually that you didn't see that. I didn't see
that party. I'm not unfamiliar with that, you know, listen,
I'm just unfamiliar with that. But looks check head on
that blue hoodie though. Yeah, yeah, very very stylish. By
(14:47):
the way, afterwards, he's going with this news. Did you
see that bubble coat? Yeah, I had a little bubble coat,
a little little stylish there. Yeah. When it's cold like that,
you can't think about fashion. You just got to go
straight for whatever it's warm. Alright, Um, that was a
pretty fashionable bubble cut. It was Mac Jones wearing scuba suit.
He was wearing a scuba suit under Yeah, yeah, scooba
(15:11):
suit or just a wets. I don't know who that.
Somebody said scuba. Who cares? It sounds like you said scuba,
Well yeah, because I read it said scuba. I'm not
a scuba diver. I don't. I don't really start to
stay away from scuba instructors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because when
you come back to come and pick them up, you know,
you know, yeah, yeah, they're on the boats scuba diving. Yeah.
(15:35):
Are you for scuba rubet? Yeah, you know, like a
a hippo. It was, you know, a hippo. You keep
your snorkels yourself. All right. It's two Pros that a
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(16:38):
here on fisode, right, I think we need an intervention.
Bro okay, alright. Every single day we say this, I'm
telling you because every single time he says and does
something that just it concerns me. I'm concerned for you. Brady.
What's the mascot for? Tcuh? The horn frog? Take out
(17:01):
the frog? That's your buddy over here. Are weird man?
You are? You keep it in a sports you see
Howard Smith, how he tried to be creative and trying
to say that college football, that's what I do college football.
You know it is a horn frog with one eye.
(17:25):
Such a weird thing to say. All right, later this
hour we are going to have another edition of in
case you missed it, and by the way, um, we
will have it being hosted by the Great lead to
Lap who just got off a flight four minutes ago.
He made it back. He made it back, He made it.
He made it from Jamaica, Queens. He is back. And
if he tells you he's a he's a lying a hole.
(17:48):
He is not a hundred percent at all. But he
is fighting through it and you know, dealing with whatever
jet lag or whatever. His sweatsuit. His sweatsuit is definitely
Jamaica queens no out. If he had had some tims on,
I have been like yo, Son, I've been like yo, Yo,
what up? Son? What did it do? Son? Everything? Cool? God?
(18:11):
You know what I mean? I call you son because
you signed like one, not because you are my son.
You know what I'm saying. Um, let me ask you this.
Uh did what I'm saying? God? Do you have no
idea what you're saying? That's right? I know, But but
now Lee does. Lee knows what I mean. Now you
just make a quaintly. Lee watches the fifty cent TV shows.
Now you know he's gonna get stars. He's got TV
(18:35):
shows now to watch. Power didn't make enough money on
Vitamin Water. He made enough, but he's making way more
doing these TV show. Good for him, They're really good. Um.
Lee's going to be in the next episode, you know,
is he? Yeah? Yeah? Not surprising me neither. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm gonna leave that joke. I'm gonna leave it there too.
Like the horn frollright, all right, So the the organ
(18:58):
docks they are, you know, looking around going all right,
so now what because Goose Mario Christo Ball is uh,
he's in Miami. Yeah, he's got a Miami family issues. Yeah,
that's true. Um, And and that is legitimate. His mom
is sick and so he's going there. But there's other
family issues taking places, and that Cavon Thibodeaux has decided, Uh,
(19:21):
you know, that Bowl game gonna go ahead and pass.
Uh and then um for that reason, and Goose and
Manny Diaz is not happy. He feels, you know, the
way the whole hiring process was handled is um is
not right. Um, But he's okay with you know, tell
him Temple yes. And then eighteen days later taking the
Miami job. But never mind all that, We just we
move on from stories of two years ago. Uh. The
(19:44):
hiring process, it was a weird one, but it felt
like Brady, this is the way this was gonna go um,
And it was just a matter of time before they
moved on. Let me be real with you guys. They
were trying to move on from many ideas last year
and they didn't find a candidate that really motivated them
enough to move No different than Southern cal with Clay Hilton,
who was sniffing around a bunch of head coaches, Urban
(20:06):
Meyer in particular, that they you know, they wanted to
move on too, but they couldn't get anyone to commit
to that job. So this is this has been in
the making for a while. Many das couldn't have been
surprised by this. The crazy part about how this whole
thing is orchestrated. It's not the fact that Mario Cristo
Baal was out recruiting and all these rumors started to surface.
(20:28):
We we saw that, you know, for the past ten
days in college football. What was crazy is the fact
that they fired their athletic director Blake James, and they
really hadn't officially hired their athletic director Dan Radovitch I
believe his name from Clemson is now going to become
their A D. But they had already selected who they
(20:48):
wanted as the head coach first and and those negotiations
were already ongoing. So they really were putting the head
coach before the athletics director, which is who the head
coach is gonna have to kind of answer too. Even
though ultimately, when you get a ten million to or
a ten year eighty million dollar contract, uh, the head
coach answers to pretty much no one. He just has
to succeed and he'll be fine. So that was the
(21:10):
more of the oddity to this situation that Miami knew
the coach they wanted. It made sense there was mutual interest.
Mario wanted to get back down because of his family
ties and some personal situations going on. But I'm gonna
tell you, man, this lends me to think that he
will be able to bring the you back. And I
also think it is it's a bad look for the
(21:34):
Pack twelve, only because I know Lincoln's going to Southern
cal and you know he'll be able to turn that
thing around relatively quick. But you just lost a guy
who helped make Oregon kind of back into it, I
don't say a national contender, but into the national conversation
this year. And since he's gotten there with the way
he recruited, now he's taking those skills to South Florida
(21:55):
and and you can say whatever you want about Southern
California what Lincoln Rother was gonna do there. If Mario
Cristoval keeps all the talent justin Broward and Dade County alone,
the um will be back. It will be back, and
people are gonna be like, where did this come from? Now?
It's been a sleeping giant for a while. They just
needed someone to tap into it and stop letting all
(22:17):
these kids out of South Florida. Per capita hands down
the most talent in the country. It's not even close.
People people talk about, you know, people plucking talent out
of southern California. It is all over the state of
Florida being plucked. And and if you look at how
the state's actually you know, if you cut out kind
of the recruiting map Palace designed, you kind of got Gainesville,
(22:40):
Florida state in Miami and they all kind of recruit
their own area. But if those schools could just keep
all that talent in the Tampa area, in the you know,
Miami Dade, Brower like those areas, if they could just
keep that intact in the Jacksonville area, like, they would
all be successful again. And I think that's what they're
all aiming to do at this point moving forward. And
(23:00):
so I'm telling you to give it, give it a
year or two that you will be back. They're not
that far off right now, and they're in an easy
a c C with Clemson has the only team to
really compete with Pitt I'm not, Well, it's Penn A
CEC didn't. They just went to a CEC did this year.
But Picket moves on, Addison moves on. A bunch of
players from that team will move on off the reload.
They seem to do pretty good reloading though they always
(23:22):
have talent. It's the Miami team that hasn't been what
it is. Yeah, I'm not going to give them Snelling
Burger yet. I don't know that they're gonna rope it
off because recruiting has drastically changed, and you're right, it
is a hot bit and people are going to go
in there and they're going to pillage the the area
like they're they're just gonna take the top recruits in
and they're going to go to different schools in different areas.
(23:45):
You know, when when I was coming up, you know,
we didn't come out of Virginia as far as we
would go as North Carolina South Carolina for teams like
you know, Penn State, And now you you take you
take a look, and it is a it's a real
culture shock, and it's funny because a lot of the
(24:06):
things that you know, James Franklin has, and not to
try to make it about Penn State, but just to
give you an idea of why it's going to be
difficult for Crystal Ball to to be able to, you know,
rope off the area and keep those recruits. There is
is you're you're talking about cultural shocks, but people are
beginning to adapt and to adjust. To see somebody come
(24:29):
up and and just take this for what it's worth,
our face value. To see a kid come to Penn
State and playball and has dreadlocks, culture shot. To see
a kid with gold gold gold fronts, culture shot. Right.
People are sitting there and they're like wholely s like
this is Penn State football. Right. So now it's becoming
(24:52):
more and more understood and people are learning that you
don't need to judge people off of their appearance. The
kid has good grades, the the kid went through clearinghouse,
the kid is a good kid, comes from a good family.
Maybe he didn't come from a good family, but the
kid brings a value. You are dealing with schools that
are going to do that. University of Virginia, Virginia Tech
(25:15):
just got Brent Pride, So Brent Pride is gonna go
down there. You're you're talking about mac at at Carolina
like it's going to be very difficult to rope that
place off and say we're keeping our our kids here
and they're not going anywhere. And now this in I
l stuff Like I know Miami has money because it's
a private, privately, you know, funded school. I'd get all that,
(25:38):
But you ain't gonna hold off all of these major
programs just on what they're gonna be if I put
some money you want to make If you want to
make that statement about Southern Cow, you better make it
about South Florida, because I promise you this, some of
these kids don't want to leave. I don't think you're right,
and you're right, and Southern Cow is the same exact way.
That's why you just saw Alabama take take Georgia and
(26:01):
wood Chadam what what uh? California quarterback a Pasadena kid?
All right? You just saw you you we see that
Clemson has has a California kid. There there's California kids.
Put it to you like this talent wise, like skill,
You're not gonna find any better skilled kids than Florida
(26:22):
kids and Southern California kids. And you start getting into
like Lineman and stuff like that. Then that you're going
into different areas. But the bottom line to me is
who is offering the best opportunities to these kids as
they're coming out. It could be tuchaes A and m
It could be it could be Tuches Longhorns, it could
(26:42):
be it could be anybody. At this point, it's just
based on what the best opportunity is that's presenting itself.
I think this N I L thing is gonna make
things a little bit more complex for for places like
a Broward County. If you know about Broward and you
know about Liberty City, and you know about all those
different areas, let me tell you something. UH offered them
(27:03):
parents a thousand dollars a month. Oh yeah, go ahead.
It's still I mean, it's already been what's already existed
in the recruiting cycle. We've already seen it for But
now now you got to hide it. Well yeah, that's true,
but you don't have to hide it for the past year.
That the differences. Now you've got a guy who knows
how to get that done. Like the eighty million dollars
(27:24):
they're spending on Mario, that's one thing there needs to
be another amount of money swinging in that's gonna be
allocated towards players for all that, which, again it's a
new it's a new landscape we see, for example, a
guy like because because here's the realities, the university can't
have any tie to the money being shelled out for
namames and likeness. Those are separate deals, so they really
(27:46):
can't facilitate or be a part of any of that.
Much like Quinn yours who got paid a good amount. Well, no,
that's for real, Like, no, no, it is, but it's
it's because it's not air quotes. It's it's not. That's
actually law, Like that's not even that's not even up debate.
That's a law. The problem is you've got a guy
like Quinn yours, who's one of the top recruits. He
(28:07):
goes to Ohio State and then he really he really
just reclassified and left early to get paid. That that
was all it was about, Like it was only about money.
Ohio State didn't want him to come a year earlier
than he should have. Not only does it make their
quarterback room a little uncomfortable, but the timing of all
in his eligibility doesn't work. But he wanted to do
it for his own sake and money, and that's fine,
(28:28):
but that doesn't mean it's gonna work out at that school.
So look and I L S and I L Well,
we can talk about like like it's gonna have a
huge impact, and it will for some kids. Ultimately, what's
gonna have the biggest impact is if Miami comes back
and has a chance of winning a national championship, if
they're playing the a c C Championship next year, if
they aren't playing for a spot in the College Football playoff,
that's where the U is back. That's where you're gonna
(28:50):
see all these kids then stay and not want to
lead and want to be a part of what will
be a big party in South Florida. I just want
there to be a little bit of patience because, like
we've seen Jim Harbaugh, guy who Alma Mater, goes back
there and you know, takes a program that was down
and out and and gives them double digit win seasons
like three or four years or whatever it was. And yeah,
(29:10):
they struggled in the bowl games and he wasn't beating
his rivals, but he did turn the program around. People
were still bitching and moaning, well, no, it's not good enough.
It's not good enough. I just wonder what's the leash
gonna be like with Mario Christo ball, because he's won
a national title there. Uh, he was all Big East
as an offensive lineman there. He's got deep Miami roots
because he's from their family there everything. I just wonder
(29:33):
what it's going how long until people are going to
look around and go all right, we need to see
results now before they realize and this this program has
been a disaster for a while. I mean that that
Miami Florida state game was a joke. But still even
with hardball, he'll get one or two years, oh grace
after winning the Big Tent, and then they're going to
go right back to the same exact conversations. You gotta
(29:55):
beat Michigan, you gotta win the Big ten. Like it's
it's never going to end in terms of the intensity
of what the fan bases and the boosters and the
schools are gonna want and expect and demand. You're giving
out a hundred million dollar contracts now you're giving out
I mean you're you're you've taken the money to a
whole another place. If you look at Mario Cristo Ball's
roster at Oregon and a lot of people say it's
(30:16):
one of you know, he's one of the great recruiters
in football. It's majority Midwest left, so it's literally just
West Coast guys. So he figured out how to recruit
that side of the country. I think he already knows
this side. So if he can, if he can lure
some even bigger recruits from that side and bring him
over to Miami. Like if if you're if you're playing
football in Texas, or you're playing in New Mexico, or
(30:39):
you're you know, a guy up in Oregon and he's
already been talking to I mean, you're telling me you
wouldn't be interested in. All I'm gonna say is this.
It sounds good, like I hear the excitement. I appreciate it.
But you're not going to just sell these recruits on
on Miami based off of the history of Miami. That's
not gonna work. You're not going to just sell them
(30:59):
on South Beach. It's not gonna work. I'll tell you
what I spent. I spent an entire time rehabbing in
Coral Gables. They have a whole lot of work to
do facility wise, if they think that they're going to
start getting all the time, what years for that. I mean,
it's been a while, but I mean I've seen the places.
(31:20):
They already redid their indoor. I mean, they've done facility upgrades.
I've seen this facility upgrades. It's not it's not on
the level of of these these major like like Clemson
or or even Michigan or heck, even Penn State as
far back really hasn't changed much of what they have.
It's it's already extraordinary. It's pretty. Look at it's good,
but it has to be that way when you live
(31:41):
in a cool weather That's correct, that's correct, but it's there.
I don't know that that ultimately entices kids. They want
a chance to plan and they had a film and
play for national championship. Yeah, I just that conversation right now.
But exactly it does make them interesting again, correct, I
don't know. I mean I do I think. Look if
(32:01):
when we grew up, Acciano made it interesting and and
he didn't get it done, yeah, I mean, but who
was my other guy that went there that that from Temple,
he was the guy that made it interesting. He would
he would have golden there, right, When did Shianna go
to Miami? Yeah, I meant golden from from I think
she did. Siano. Was he a defensive coordinator? No, I
(32:25):
meant al golden. Yeah. They kind of ran together on
Golden Schiano. I make the mistake. They're both pen staters.
There was a little bias there. You needed a pin
state guy to make Miami grade. Again, Shana may have
been there, like twenty years ago. I think he was. Yeah,
I think he was there. I think it was a
(32:46):
I don't think he was ever a head coach. All right.
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for that we turn it over to the wonderful lead
to Lap, who is back. He visited the in laws
in New York and then had to deal with like
forty eight delays at JFK airport. But he is here.
(34:54):
He was, Hey, when did your plane land? Lead literally
like an hour and a half ago, an hour before time.
I made it in about fifteen minutes before the starting
Look at you and ready to rock that kind of man. Yeah,
we had about four or five delays. I was. I
was in JFK for about six hours and my my
bar tab was more than the whole rest of the trip. Yeah.
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Not enough to do there, man, there's not enough to
do there. No. Yeah, he's just JFK. I mean they
got real high end shopping there, don't they. It's like
a mall. Yeah, I got I was there for ten
hours and I got drunk twice. You just have to
get it done, man, two different bars. Get drunk at one,
pass out on the floor and then over my baggage
(35:39):
claim and then go up drink at the other and
another one thing. You know, you don't want to be
seen at two places. I changed a shirt, I think
just to make sure they don't want to be seen
at the same place. Yeah, correct, Sorry, that's what you meant. Yeah,
that's that's what we're here for. Man, make sure everybody
understands what you meant. Yeah. Yeah, get drunk multiple places people.
(36:00):
That's the encouraging word from Jonas Knocks today. He endorses
that I wasn't driving alright, alright, but don't fly you guys.
Uh sad news to relay here. Uh Medina spirit three
year old colt who had one in Kentucky Derby unfortunately
passed away over the weekend. Where at where Santa Anita
(36:22):
was waiting? Was he waiting on a fight? Did he did?
He go to two different bars, not waiting on a
Unfortunately they suffered a heart attack. He did not break
a leg like most a Hell's waiting room. They called
for horses Hell's waiting. More horses have died of Santa
Anita than in Game of Thrones, Like it is shocking
(36:43):
how it might as well be its own cemetery. The
should just create a cemetery right next to it. Dude,
in a single year they lost thirty. That's in Arcadia, right, Yeah,
you know what that's called. It's called a clue factory.
I think we're missing out. Gosh, should put one up
right next to the shop, like mommy daddy. Why is
(37:04):
there a tent on the track again? You know their renovations. Uh,
that's a different type of medical tent bedna get tent shortage. Yeah.
Why do they have a needle the size of javelin? Why?
You know they're working on some stuff. You go in
that tent, you ain't coming. Yeah, it is, I mean
every I mean every year there's a problem, now there
(37:25):
it is. Well. Also under scrutiny is Bob Baffort, by
the way, who is a three year old cult that
passed away just after winning the Kentucky Derby and he contaminated. Hey,
he already said that it was contaminant. It wasn't urine
in the hay or something like that. I was saying.
It was cream that they were using for a rash.
You know, of course it was. Yeah. I think he's
(37:47):
I think he's trying to get rid of the evidence.
You know, that's a good point. Bob Baffort. Remember he
tried to blame it on the guy who was cleaning
the stalls ated in there. Yeah, there was that guy's
fault that they say, you know, it was from the
hearse or a horse you're in. I mean, it's just
they're all over the place. They could come up with
an excuse fast enough to try to get out of that.
One yells. His name keeps coming up, though, Bob bafferm Man. Yeah, yeah,
(38:10):
I'll say in the horsing world though, he's like the Clintons.
You gotta be careful, man, I'm saying the Clintons. I'm saying,
you keep like you look at that that whole Epstein case.
All that stuff's going on right now. You better be
careful mentioning their name. There's a lot of way you
can see it. Yeah, they'll send you to sant Anita. Question. Oh,
(38:38):
don't be caught up in one of them stalls. But again,
thoughts and prayers to uh, you know, Dona Spirit and
his family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went. I'll take that
lee you guys. We would reported on it a few
weeks ago, and it is officially the end of an era.
They have started to take down the sign, the Staples
Center sign it was now the Crypto Arena era. Oh
Man Lewin the other day and the way the roof
(39:02):
looks on that bad boy, like who cares? Man? Man,
I really enjoyed going to Staple Center and watching the
Lakers losing the first round. As you see do you
see have you seen a roof on so Fi that
looks freaking amazing from the air? It was so Fie.
That's where our super Bowl is, man crazy, Yeah, that's
we're gonna get after it there. You're going to get
after it there. No, probably not. H You'll have three beers? Thanks, man,
(39:26):
be at thanks man, there is I'm not out of smoke.
He'll be smoke. Sorry, I'm a fishing off three beer. Sorry,
I'm Mac Jones. I need three to get a win,
all right, Like I don't need any more than that.
I'm not. I'm not here to three minutes to get
a win. Had three attempts though, and we had two completions.
And that's like finishing two beers. I'm finishing your third. Um.
(39:47):
And so it's called is it crypto dot com? That's
the name of the the arena. Now that's what we're
calling it. They're calling it the Crypto arena. But yeah,
it is cryptom, the crypt that's what they're calling it.
You know, only you'll only be able to wear blue
when you go there, is that true? Yeah? What happens
to you? You know, just you know, yeah, you get
(40:08):
suck to Santa Anita. That's where you go. I'm just saying,
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