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Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the Rams win over the Cardinals on Monday Night Football where both Aaron Donald and Kyler Murray impressed. Urban Meyer accepted the challenge of turning around the Jaguars and the guys are rooting for him. Plus, an epic Taco Bell order from John Daly and 'Pole Assassin' Christmas decorations on In Case You Missed It.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox. Coming up on the show,
We're gonna look back on Monday Night football, the l
A Rams make a statement and one player on their
team absolutely did so as well. You talk about book
ending a primetime game. We'll get into all of that
for you here. The situation in Jacksonville, there are more
layers there. We will look into. Somebody on this show
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paid thirty seven dollars for a sandwich at a restaurant.
Not making that up. There's some injury concerns from around
the league. Did you get paid off? Brady Quinn's advice
for months and months ago. We got some potential trash
talk of one Baker Mayfield. We've got the results of
the prop ed monster and more weird stories that we're
gonna give a little bit of love too. And we
don't even have a name for the segment yet. All
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of that is coming up next year on the Tuesday
edition of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks and you right here a Fox
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Everyone Jonas knocks with you here. We're gonna take you
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and we got a lot to get to, including uh
are we gonna call that a statement game made by
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the L A Rams And they're not dead and buried.
H The L A Rams are still very much alive
in the NFC West with the performance they put on
last night. Cooper Cup was fantastic. Matt Stafford at a
hell of a throw, a couple of throws there. Yeah,
well listen, you know, we'll get to those results later on.
We gotta keep the the audience waiting, you know, listen
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to congratulations the l A Rams. When when Arizona started
to turn the ball over and Kyler through that second
pig or even after the first pick, it was like
that seemed like a big moment in the game, and
then the Ramps took charge from there, and all that
talent that they've acquired of the past couple of years
seemed to show off on the grandest stage of them all.
Let's call what it is okay for anyone who was
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watching the very first play of the game. Aaron Donald
set the tone all right, I'll tell you this much.
It gave me flashbacks to when I was a young kid.
And fortunately, you go on the playground, right, there's always
gonna be that one alpha dog out there. I remember
we were in elementary school. Used to go out and
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they would combine like first grade, second grade, right, or
third grade, fourth grade. Well, I remember my first time
going out in first grade. Unfortunately, again I was friends
with this kid, so he never gave me a hard time.
But Gabe Manella Alright, Gabe had an older brother than him,
and his older brother used to beat down on him.
And guess where he took out that aggression on everybody?
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Everybody else Man And I'll tell you when you walked
out to that playground, he was the tone setter. I
don't know how that recess was gonna go, but when
Gabe was out there, he was gonna dictate that he
was either gonna be a good day recess for him
bad day, based on Gabe's mood and how he felt.
That was Aaron Donald last night, that first player that game,
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he set the tone for the rest of the Rams.
What they do like they sought him out of a
lot pretty much. And I don't know, I thought I
thought it was a pretty pretty intense start to the game.
I mean, he put people on notice. Look, I know
I've been singing Micael's praises. Best in the Game dictates this.
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Maybe he was listening to our show. He is from Pittsburgh.
I mean that school yard you're talking about. A lot
of my cousins ran that saying, I'm sorry, I got
stories about Aaron Donald. I'll tell you what they're going
that man and and and there went the Rams. I mean,
you know, here's the one thing I took away from it.
The Rams seemed to have an attitude about them, and
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and it wasn't It was a tone that was setting.
It seemed as though it's just, you know, the way
they're being discussed, like what are they? Are they any good?
Are they going to melt down? Like this is an
Arizona team that is trending up and and and listen,
Arizona still almost figured it out. You know. I think
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that there was some poor mismanagement at the end of
the game. I thought that they should have I thought
that they should have worked a little harder to get
a little closer to get a field goal. But nonetheless,
however you look at it, they still got to a
point of where they had a chance to tie this game.
And it just makes me wonder. I know these are
the two best teams in the NFC West. I know
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these are probably one. Arizona is probably one, one A
maybe two, maybe three, Maybe I give them three. But
what do we look at the Rams as right now?
Like to me, I said, it's Green Bay, it's Tampa Bay,
and in it's Arizona. But Arizona just lost to the Rams,
and the Rams are looking pretty good and their records
pretty good. So it's like, how am I looking at
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the Rams now? Can the Rams overtake them? Can they
overtake the Arizona Cardinals to win the NFC West? Are
are we at that point? I like that, Jonas, do
you have the odds for right now for the NFC
West here? It's an interesting question because I was thinking
this at the beginning the show. I was gonna ask
you guys, like if you had to bet right now?
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And I think it's been I mean, look, San Francisco
has been playing good of late. I don't know that
we we think they're better than these two teams if
you had to place a bet right now, though, and
I would assume Arizona's the favorite, probably because the record
and how much how many games we have left. I
don't know. The outside shot I might take the Rams.
I think they're gonna be the hotter team going into
the playoffs when it's all said and done, just because
of the last night, just because I'm telling you it's
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it's one of those feelings. It's one of those things
like you watch like Tampa last year, they didn't have
until late in the season. Once they did that, momentum
started building that Rams team is gonna be nowt and
they did it without their best about to say, and
they did it missing a few guys as well. And
that that's that spoke volumes. So let me ask you this,
whose schedule would you rather have down the stretch for
the l A. Rams. They've got Seattle at home, than
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they're at Minnesota at Baltimore, and then they've got the Niners,
and then with the with the Arizona Cardinals at Detroit
home against the Colts at the Cowboys home against the Seahawks.
I mean, that's the easy, yeah, probably by what a
couple of games, probably two games, so because we don't
know if we don't know how bad Lamars um, yeah,
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we don't know how bad his injury is gonna be,
and that that would that might change how you look
at that Baltimore game, right, Yeah, certainly would change the dynamics.
So here's where we see the way. It's gotta be
like second guess every time I say Lamar said Laar
LaVar that time, I was getting confused when you did yesterday.
I'm like saying LaVar, it's Lamar Lamar saying LaVar to
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Lamar that will be coming gunside though, I'm like, I
can't even say it without second guessing. I believe I
am literally the only person, maybe outside of Lamar's that
would be able to get through a conversation with Lamar
and not say Lamar in place of LaVar. N do it.
But again it's in that broadcast, you know. I mean,
but you know that solo stuff, I do, you know,
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just a little bit. All right, here's the odds for
the NFC West. The Arizona Cardinals are a minus eight
hundred to win the division, which is uh, you know,
bet to eight hundred to win a hundred, So a
significant favorite to win the division. The l A Rams
are plus five fifty, So bet a hundred win five
fifty in return for those kind of odds. With the
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value you get in return, I would I would kick
the tires on the Rams. Why not? I mean, if
you if you're that questioning what the Arizona Cardinals and
what that looked like last night on display, and you
look at that and you go, well, maybe Aaron Donald,
just realize, you know, I'm tired of this crap. I'm
the defensive player of the Year. I should be that
every single year, and that was without Jalen Ramsey. Why
not kick the tires on the Rams. Plus, I'm gonna
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tell you what's even more scary to think about is
that von Miller still hasn't found his footing yet with
this team. He's probably not going to height. He might.
He just might. And I'm gonna tell you, and I'm
gonna tell you why I think he just might is
because you're seeing his his presence resonate with his linebacking
corps already, Like, make no mistake about it, you saw
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linebackers play at a very very high level, a higher
level than I've seen them play all season, and I
don't think that that's by coincidence. I think that's by
that's by influence. And and Von Miller, he shows he
still has the ability to get to the quarterback. He
shows the burst off of off of the ball. They're
not playing him as much, so there may be a
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little bit of a backstory as to why he's not
playing more than what he is. But I just got
this weird feeling that he's going to he's going to
catch on and and it's gonna it's gonna be at
the time where they most needed in the I'm I'm
telling I just get this air feeling that Vaughan is
gonna catch on. You cannot you cannot write a guy
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like that off. And then for Aaron Donald, it's so
funny because we were on this show and I'm like,
all right, who are we looking at as contenders for
this defensive Player of the Year. And I was like,
we haven't been able to say Aaron Donald's name, and
lo and behold. I mean, he goes out there and
I don't know that he puts himself in the m
v P Race conversation, but that certainly was a statement
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game in terms of applying your dominance to a game.
He started the game off with a big play and
he ended the game with a big play, So they
look pretty good. Remember how this this game like first,
the first matchup between these two teams, like Arizona beat
the dog in their house, and and this game. I
know it was a one touchdown, one score game at
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the end of it, but it felt like it was
a lot more distant than that was, you know, even
a tide to half. I was like, man, the rass
kind of feel like they're in control though, Like I
don't know, I just that this game gave me a
lot different feeling and what I saw from the first
matchup between these two. Sean McVeigh talked about Aaron Donald afterwards.
That's what the best do. They play their best when
their best is required. We talk about competitive greatness all
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the time. This guy is the epitome of competitive greatness.
Really proud of Aaron, not at all surprised, but he's
a special player, special person, and you felt his presence
from the very first snap and then to the last one,
and he was outstanding tonight. If he doesn't win NFC
Defensive Player of the Week, something's wrong. Well, I mean
the player of the week. I mean that's actually there's
a start. Those are the ones you want, you gotta
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by the way, you're you're the last game this past
of course. Yeah you make that statement now and retrospect on. Well,
hold on what Michael. I will say this, Michael Parsons,
it's not you got a campaign these days. I think
he had to two sacks? He had like seven tack
What do you get for player of the week? What
what is that like? You just get to play a
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coffee mug belt? I think they have been given out belts,
wrestling belts that yeah, I think so, Yeah, you know,
the championship, the player of the week. I watched Michael.
You know he gets a lot of a lot of awards,
weekly awards. Where'd he go? Did he go to college somewhere?
You know? Hey man, I gave a shout out to
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LaVar talk about Mica on a show yesterday a little
What do you guys? What do you guys make of
Arizona struggling at home like they do. They're undefeated on
the road, but they saw them fools gold Man. They
always make me nervous. Are they going to turn out
to be the Arizona Cardinals or are they going to
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take a step forward. That's that's how I look at Arizona.
At what point are they going to show us their
Arizona And I mean that might be right now because
we've seen it, especially last year, where late in the
season they started out, they started to fold, and a
lot of that was you know, Kyla Murray was banged
up late in the season last year, bang up again, Yeah,
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I mean it started hobbling around a little bit towards
the end of that guy. That's how he walks, like
I think he's got he's got a different walk. I
know what you're saying, He's got a little bit, did you, Guys?
I didn't feel like he was as explosive as he
usually is, like in some of those past rushes. I
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thought he might have scooted out. There was a third
how where he got flushed out of the pocket earlier
in the game, and they were making such a big
deal about Greg Gaines um making the tackle, which the
only reason Greg Gaines was able to cover down and
make the tackle is because Kyler put such a move
on Jones, the linebacker for the Rams, literally like lost
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his jockstrap somewhere on the twenty yard line. It was
one of the best little hesitation stutters that he just
jetted right by him and then Gaines eventually as he
was like stutter stepping, like made the tackle from behind.
It was a ridiculous move and Kyler got like no
credit for it. And it's just he's so much fun
to watch scramble. He so quick. I just wonder was
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he is he for as quick as he looked last night?
He's for me. I think he's looked quicker. He's looked
more explosive, and I didn't like I felt as though,
like even on that last play, like he would have
been able to not only escape the tackle allude to tackle,
but he would have been able to elude on Aaron
Donald and maybe get his feet set to throw it.
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He got through the first guys he did, so he didn't.
I mean he had he had the high ankle sprain, right,
and so he came back last week and two weeks
ago or whatever it was, Yeah, yeah, um, And so
he comes back from the high ankle sprain. Do you
think he's a percent Do you think he's I don't
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think that's, Like I said, he looked like he limped
a few times around like maybe he was getting sore,
you know, And I think that plays a major part.
Like I guess the reason why I'm bringing it up
is because I think this team is is close to unbeatable.
If Kyler Murray is does a little bit more, if
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if he moves around a little bit more, Yeah, I
think this team, I think it's a different game against
the Rams. They missed their shots too. You know, they
had an early shot to A J. Green. He got
some pressure in the pocket that the quarterback fell down
and it was just one of those deals where he
put it to the outside. Green looked at the inside
and you know they couldn't complete it. But like they
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had their opportunities and shots last night. I just I
don't know, man, Something about it felt like we we
watched like the beginning of a heavyweight boxing match and
Mike Tyson came out and just right from the get
go started throwing those haymakers and that was it. Like
you were like, oh, okay, like this is gonna be
the Rams night tonight. It's two pros and that cup
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the most improbable achievements by an athlete that I can recall,
and it's something that everybody can relate to, although I
don't know that anybody's ever pulled this off. Pretty impressive
stuff by by one professional athlete there. So they call
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it tease in the radio industry. You guys are aware
of that, all right? Um, speaking of teases, Uh, the
very nice Why why don't I even like, why do
I even come in just to get my balls broken
every day? You're the one that like wanted us to
give you more credit atmosphere? Yeah, and that not insult me.
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Give me some credit, that's it? Yeah, something like that,
all right. So the the vultures have have circled the
skies high above Jacksonville. Um. This they continued on on Monday,
just the piling on of urban Meyer, just going all
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in on urban Meyer and the situation in Jacksonville's we
talked about yesterday. This feels like people had some issues
previously that they're now sort of digging back up and
going hard in the pain on urban Meyer and why
it's not gonna work in Jacksonville. Urban Meyer yesterday spoke
with the media per usual on a Monday following a game,
and urban Meyer talked about the one of the reports
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that we discussed yesterday about the alleged argument he had
with a player and the issues he had. Marvin Jones
is thrown out there. He was the Jaguars head coach yesterday.
I did mention it because it became you know, my
dear Amy here helps me out. So this is some
story about you had a heated argument with Marvin Jones.
You know, I see people stare at our phones and
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the players knew it. Sorry, so he doubled down on
that I had a heated argument with Yes, it didn't happen,
but I gotta move We gotta move on. And can
I give up Marvin's text number or something? I love
how reporters laugh with you so that they could keep
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you saying stuff. It's like you're laughing. It's like, yeah, okay, okay,
tell us more. I mean, you listen. You gotta well,
you gotta. You gotta wash the guy's balls from time
to time. You gotta so hilarious. Yeah, yeah, you do.
You gotta gotta get get make the guy feel good
about it. Would you like to have Marvin's text number? Now?
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Urban Meyer also um he talked about the the issues
in Jacksonville. He went on and on here was more
about from the Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer yesterday, discussing
all the drama and the friction there between the Jags,
the media and everything else surrounding it. Worry about James mentality,
worry about Marvin Jones mentality, because that's reality, what you
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just said, reality, reality of an athlete and reality of
a coach. When you work so freaking hard at something
and it's not executing, that's an absolute And I have
experienced that some of his other stuff, the stories, and
I've never heard of that kind of stuff in my life,
but I have heard about frustration. Every coach and every
athlete that was frustration. So Trevor Lawrence has defended h
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just the situation and stood up and spoke about their
locker room and you know, just dealing with this stuff
when it comes along with it and just sort of
rallying around each other. Everybody has said there, you know,
we've got a great locker room. So on and so forth.
Maybe not so much coaching staff, but the the great
locker room. I'm just saying, you know, they've got some
rats there. There's some most snakes that are that are
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you know, uh in in the building there. But this
just feels like this is gonna be a conversation that's
going to continue on. Shod Con has said that he
doesn't feel like he needs to make any sort of
a rush to judgment now or a decision right now
unless this gets just absolutely awful and takes on another turn. Brady,
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I can't see them making a move in season. This
is going to be something that they discussed after the season. Yeah,
but you heard shot Con made a statement yesterday saying
it's not gonna be hasty with his decision, and I
think he's gonna give it time. Here's what you also
to take into account of shot Con the pre existing
relationship with Urban Meyer. They've known each other for a
long time. He's admired what Urban has done at Florida
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and Ohio State in other places he's been And I
think he knew signing up for this that if you
would have lived in that world where you're gonna live
week to week and you're gonna live in a vacuum
of just you know, different stretches throughout this season, it's
gonna be tough. It's gonna look bad. This hasn't been
the worst team in the NFL a year ago. They're
one of the worst teams in the NFL. But that's
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not to say there's not some bright spots there's no
doubt Trevor Lawrence as a franchise quarterback, at least in
my mind. He just doesn't have any help around him. Now.
How much can the coaching staff do on that side
of the ball. You know, that's the tough part to
try to answer, because there's some young pieces, there's some
pieces that I'm sure they'd like to upgrade or improve upon,
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but that's gonna take time. You know, you can't turn
it over as quickly as you'd like. In the NFL,
their defense has been good at times, but not consistently enough.
So I think all in all, cooler heads will prevail
and and they'll talk after the season about what they
would have do moving forward. I just I think if
urban was to step down, it would be on his
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own volition. It wouldn't be that shot Khan fires him
after one year. I just don't think that's been his
track record. I don't think he'd want to do that.
And I think that the tough thing for me about
thinking of if urban Meyer would step down after one
year would be I think he kind of knows what
he signed up for and the challenge, like he likes challenges,
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man like it, and this is one that it's a
true challenge, like trying to rebuild this thing back up
and figure out how to do at the NFL level.
So I just I know everyone's making a big deal
about it now, and that's what the media does. And
as I said before, I don't think he ever got
a fair shot when he got into the league. So
I'm actually I'm rooting for him to be in the
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NFL long just so, if not only just so the
media has to deal with, you know, some of what
they've dealt with this year, and and and maybe if
they don't like it, good deal with it, like for once,
like you're gonna have to deal with someone who's gonna
build this thing back up and maybe make it successful
when you have to deal with that or the consequence
whatever that may be five and eleven and eighteen two thousand, eighteen,
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six six wins or five five wins in two thousand
and eighteen, six wins in two thousand, nineteen, one win
in two thousand. So again, I always find it interesting
when when I when I was playing and I had
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gotten deep enough into losing as as a pro, you
start to really sit back and you measure in you
way your locker room, your friends. It's like, am I
a loser? And then you start to look around, am
I hanging around losers? Like what's the company that I'm keeping?
What's what's the environment like? And it always trips me
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out when a team kind of overvalues themselves when they're
not successful. It's like we're holding urban Meyer. The public,
the the media, they're all holding urban Meyer to this
standard of what urban Meyer has been throughout his career.
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It's like, oh, the urban Meyer effect. He comes straight
to Ohio State and they become this powerhouse of a team,
and everything that he did in Florida, they became this
powerhouse of a team. And it's like, why isn't Jacksonville
becoming this powerhouse of a team because they suck? Of course,
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s con isn't gonna make a quick decision, y'all suck.
Like when you have an opportunity with somebody that is
a proven winner. And we just talked about how those
those things surfaced about him, whether it's true or not,
saying that I'm a winner, Like what y'all's resume? Like,
I'm gonna be honest. Sometimes you gotta have car hard conversations.
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It is funny because when you think back to the
Illinois Penn State game and leading up to that aim
and we had the conversation about the coach and how
he said, well, we're gonna have to recruit this position.
We've not had any any uh, good guys stand out
at these positions. At this he basically called out every
single position of his team and said we gotta recruit better,
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we gotta do better. And everybody lost their pants, everybody
lost their minds. Everybody was talking about how this man,
how can he talk to these guys this way? How
can he say these things? He's gonna lose the team
this that. Another one thing I can tell you is
if you have a losing mentality and everybody's walking around
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feeling like losers, you're gonna lose. If somebody is not
going to be that person that says, hey, look, I'm
not gonna walk around amongst you losers and let myself
become a loser. I'm going to influence you to to
want to be something different than that. And and that's
what happens in locker rooms where you don't win, you
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gotta have somebody that's gonna give you harsh truth. You're
walking around here right now and you're comfortable and you're
happy and you're okay, something's wrong, something's wrong, and something
might be wrong with you. You can look at me
and say urban Meyer. Oh, he he was in the
bar and he had the shorty on his lag. He's
a winner. That's why I'm looking at you. Guys. I win.
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If you get me the opportunity to win, we'll win.
But I'm gonna go to my restaurant and I'm a
visit with people and have a good time and let
people dozy dough on my kneecap. I'm gonna do that
because I'm a winner. Now, either y'all want to win
because they hired me to come here so we can win,
or y'all can keep being what you want to be.
And if y'all want to have this internal bite back
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biting and and bickering and moaning and groaning and victimhood,
then you got the wrong guy. And then now you
gotta see where you're going to weed out the certain
people that may bring down the value of trying to
create a winning culture. I also think and Brady, obviously
you would know this because you worked with them in
the past. Couple of years. This isn't like just spur
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the moment he was like, you know what, I'll go
be a coach in the NFL. Why not. He'd had
to have been contemplating this and thinking about if he
was ready to make a move for a while now,
and this opportunity popped up, and I think that he
looked at it and thought about it long enough, and
he made the move that he thought he could ultimately
have success in making this move. After he made the
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decision to go to the NFL. This idea that everybody
just expected it was gonna work right away. I get
or there's no way. Urban Meyer came into this thinking, oh,
you know, we're gonna be a ten win team fighting
for a playoffs. But he probably realized this is gonna
take some time, and it's gonna take me a time
to get the right guys around me. It's not gonna
happen in one year. And everybody's just ready to go. No,
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it's got to go. Until the Var's point, they were
a bad teams long as time ago. Nobody from that
team is on this roster anymore, that team that was
six minutes away from going to a super Bowl. This
idea this is all urban Meyer that's leading to all
this problem and all these issues in Jacksonville. I just
think it's a bunch of crap. I think it's all
great points. I mean, this organization has really since it's expansion,
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since it was an expansion team and had talented players. Uh,
I like your Mark Brunel's your Maurice Jones, Drew's your
Fred Taylor's your you know, you can throw a bunch
of other guys in the category, Tony Baselli, you know,
since those early days, and by the way, I probably
left out a bunch of guys Taylor Brooks, Tony Brackens. Yeah.
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So the the truth is since early on, Yeah, Straw
was a beast. Paul was les Nime. That's the only
other guy I'll say that has that that that look.
Paul Lesnie has that Brady you Quinn look. I'm just said,
he'll give you a run. People would have looked at like, about,
(28:01):
why do you get so jacked? When the NFL, I
was like, well, I trained with Paul puzz Leslie coming
out when we were like best buds for a minute
training for the COMBA together. I looked like in the
gym I would have been standing there like, good God,
look at those two men over there, good looking men.
I digress talking with Urban. Over the couple of years
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I worked with him, he had plenty of opportunities, He
had plenty of teams and people poking around, and it
became pretty apparent that in the state of college football,
I think he wanted that next challenge and it didn't
want to be necessarily at you know, Southern Calors somewhere
else like that. It wanted to be that next step
up and see if you could do it at the
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NFL level. I just think the hard thing is we
see in college like good jobs come open, right like,
not necessarily good jobs because there was a lack of productivity.
I mean, you do get jobs that come open because
guys just decided to leave Brian Kelly Loft Notre Dame.
They had won ten or more games the last five seasons.
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I mean, that's a good job. Obviously I'm biased, but
I think we'd agree. You know, it's not a good
spot right now, but that job came open, And there's
other examples of that I think in college football. You know,
in the NFL, it's not like that, Like seldom do
you ever see someone leave, Like a good situation like
that doesn't happen. Usually it's a bad football team. They
didn't have success that Jaguars haven't had success with the
(29:28):
exception of that. I don't want to say a fluke
a f C Championship appearance season, you know what with
Blake Bortles four years ago, whatever it was. But that's
the truth. Like no one expected to get there. They
got there, and and they've they've struggled ever since, and
they struggled before that. So this is an organization that
it's going to take time. You kind of have to
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knock it all down in order to build that foundation
again to build it back up. And I think what
we're seeing right now is an organization that has had
someone come in there and push as many buttons as
he is to try to get things steered back in
the right direction. Like you hear him talking about you know,
you know, rumors and stuff coming out from his coach
(30:11):
staff for leaks, and he's like, I've never heard of that.
I've never experienced that. You hear all these different reports
coming out. He's like, that was never a part of
any team I was ever with, And it's because it
was obviously a different culture, and he built it a
different way. That's where Jacksonville is trying to get to
and it's gonna take time. It's gonna take a lot
of patients in time, and I know their fan base
already has been patient. But that's where they're at right now.
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They're just every partro Bowlers. Does does Jacksonville have currently?
Oh god, I don't think any. I don't think any.
I wouldn't. I mean, Josh Allen might be the only one.
I say, you know, you could have made a case
even though I don't even know, like this year. That
was more what I think last year, and he's made
one in the past. But I'm just saying, if you
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think about what you just did in terms of bringing
up those names you're talking about up for the Hall
of Fame, perennial Pro Bowlers and All Pros. When we're
talking about those those teams that Tom Coughlin led, that
that had all of that success, you are going to
have to amass an amount of talent in Jacksonville to
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be able to compete yours. It just has to happen.
And in fact, if you think about it, that's every team.
It's every team you have to have pro bowlers emerge,
You have to have lead. We just talked about it
leading off in the show. Your big dogs have to
show up to the big dog fights, like and no,
you know, I don't condone dog fighting to it to
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all the sensitivity people out there. But what I'm saying is, yeah,
let me make sure I disclaimer that. Uh but what
I what I Yeah, I just I just think that
they're going to need way more to land developed or
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or acquired before you can even start to beginning processes
of how are we going to judge urban Meyer? Take
a couple of years, so to judge him now if
if people are really judging him now, like, oh, he
didn't turn it around right now? You don't understand what
building is You don't you don't understand what this would
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be the equivalent of of urban Meyer at the college
level of taking the absolute worst bottom team and turning
it into a competitive team. Say, and like, what the
the a f C or or even the SEC. What's
the bottom dwelling team of the SEC? Definitely not South Carolina?
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All right, maybe they might be in there. Oh, come on,
they might be in there. Spencer Rattler, Now are you
talking about my gosh, I'm just saying, imagine him having
to go takeovers s C right and and then become
the winner the top competing team in that conference. Yeah,
it's you know what I'm saying, like, that's it's not
realistic to think that, but it's you know, and it's
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all but any other coach, any other coach, I think
would be given a much more fair of a shot
in the media that Urban Meyer's gone. And that's the
point I'm making. It's just it's I think that's the
point we're all making, which it's not an excuse, it's
just that it's truth. It takes time to build, especially
when it's a crappy team. It just it takes time.
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over to executive producer and lead the laugh to find
out what the hell is going on? Lee. You guys,
what's the most you've ever spent at a fast food joint?
That's at least fifty dollars every time I go? Six
just for you? No, okay, just for you though, oh
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just for me? Yeah, yeah, it seems about right. Fifteen
maybe all right? I once created at seven dollar sub
at So this is how this works every bit. Obviously,
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you obviously get a foot long, right uh. If you
get the gluten free bread, that's like a sixteen dollar
add on, so that's where the price went up a
little bit. I did happen to get double meat? I
think I added I had a few add ons there.
It was literally a Philly cheese sting. But like with
the gluten free bread, double meat, double cheese, I'm gonna
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throws a bacon on there next thing. I know, thirty
seven dollars for a sub from Jersey Mikes. Did you
have a whole bunch of eggs fish eggs on there? There?
Were you drunk or was this post workout? Uh? Neither.
I think I just got done doing big New kickoff
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a little and advertise the commercials. I was like, now
what a Jersey mics up? And you probably hadn't eatn
an hour? So that I literally do not eat. So
this was always like playing or even to this day,
I really don't eat before we ever do anything because
I'm always like I don't want to have to go
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game or like during a show, because it's you're not
for two hours to the bathroom. So that's incredible, well
as impressive as that is, Brady, it's not quite as
impressive as John Daly, who posted a picture on social
media of his tab that he racked up at Taco
Bell with the disclaimer don't drink in order Taco Bell
on Uber eats, his bill racked up to four hundred
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and forty six dollars. Christ Man for the mom. What
is delivering here? Like ten bucks fee? Probably probably like
a hundred dollar fee, but still four six dollars a
Taco Bell. Twenty dollars a Taco Bell will get you
infinite Taco Bell. I'm looking at it right now. He's
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got ten crunchy Taco Supreme, ten spicy double steak, grilled cheese,
breed cheat night. All this, by the way, this is like,
I mean, what actually eating all himself? How many trips
to the bathroom we're talking on this over under four
and a half? Oh easily more than that? Yeah, over right,
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I can't believe. Yeah, unbelievable. That's a you know, listen, um,
get after it, man, I gave it, dude, you gotta
do fourty six dollars. That was more left hand cigarettes
smoking than it was intoxication though, just so we're clear
on that. Yeah, you know you will make that mistake
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when you're left hand cigarette and it you know from
what I hear. Yeah, that's the word out there on
the streets. You for all you weed freaks out there,
Hold on, man, don't be judgmental. I'm just saying. We
three just say people who part two and medicinal you
know terms, it's like terms in dear me. You know,
it's like a little bit shot, a little bit of love.
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What else you got, lee you guys? In case you
missed it? Back in Halloween, we had talked about Longhorn
Special Teams coordinator Jeff Banks and his girlfriend the pole
Assassin and her monkey trick treater in the lawsuit said
the pole assassin and who appeared on the pole? Yeah
completely what you say, poll assassin and and her monkey
who bit a trigger treater. Yea, I thought you said
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her monkey that clamps the poles as well. Well, the
monkey does climb the pole as well. There you go.
That might be the funniest thing that has ever gone
over live radio. And maybe people missed it. What about
in case you miss it? We've also talked about Christmas
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and M Fan is trolling his Texas fan neighbor with
his Christmas decorations of a candy cane with a mannequin
that is dressed as a as a Santa's Helpers, so
to say, with another mannequin dressed as Jeff Banks, Longhorned
Special Teams coordinator and dressed as Santa. That's too much, thoughts. Yeah,
it's really creepy. Um, it's done really well. Like where
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do you where do you get ahold of a bull?
Of mannequins like that? There's too much, too much, just
too much, like looted department store. Like where do you
get a couple of mannequins like that? Maybe from the
maybe from the movie Man. Yeah, that's a great movie. Man,
that's a great movie. Mannequin underrated flick for those U
me a horrible movie. I don't know. I don't think so.
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It's a great song. David Bowie? Who is that? What
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We're gonna look back on Monday Night football, the l
A Rams make a statement and one player on their
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ending a primetime game. We'll get into all of that
for you here. The situation in Jacksonville, there are more
layers there. We will look into. Somebody on this show
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Not making that up. There's some injury concerns from around
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Everyone Jonas knocks with you here. We're gonna take you
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and we got a lot to get to, including uh
are we gonna call that a statement game made by
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the L A Rams And they're not dead and buried.
H The L A Rams are still very much alive
in the NFC West with the performance they put on
last night. Cooper Cup was fantastic. Matt Stafford at a
hell of a throw, a couple of throws there. Yeah,
well listen, you know, we'll get to those results later on.
We gotta keep the the audience waiting, you know, listen
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to congratulations the l A Rams. When when Arizona started
to turn the ball over and Kyler through that second
pig or even after the first pick, it was like
that seemed like a big moment in the game, and
then the Ramps took charge from there, and all that
talent that they've acquired of the past couple of years
seemed to show off on the grandest stage of them all.
Let's call what it is okay for anyone who was
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watching the very first play of the game. Aaron Donald
set the tone all right, I'll tell you this much.
It gave me flashbacks to when I was a young kid.
And fortunately, you go on the playground, right, there's always
gonna be that one alpha dog out there. I remember
we were in elementary school. Used to go out and
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they would combine like first grade, second grade, right, or
third grade, fourth grade. Well, I remember my first time
going out in first grade. Unfortunately, again I was friends
with this kid, so he never gave me a hard time.
But Gabe Manella Alright, Gabe had an older brother than him,
and his older brother used to beat down on him.
And guess where he took out that aggression on everybody?
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Everybody else Man And I'll tell you when you walked
out to that playground, he was the tone setter. I
don't know how that recess was gonna go, but when
Gabe was out there, he was gonna dictate that he
was either gonna be a good day recess for him
bad day, based on Gabe's mood and how he felt.
That was Aaron Donald last night, that first player that game,
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he set the tone for the rest of the Rams.
What they do like they sought him out of a
lot pretty much. And I don't know, I thought I
thought it was a pretty pretty intense start to the game.
I mean, he put people on notice. Look, I know
I've been singing Micael's praises. Best in the Game dictates this.
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Maybe he was listening to our show. He is from Pittsburgh.
I mean that school yard you're talking about. A lot
of my cousins ran that saying, I'm sorry, I got
stories about Aaron Donald. I'll tell you what they're going
that man and and and there went the Rams. I mean,
you know, here's the one thing I took away from it.
The Rams seemed to have an attitude about them, and
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and it wasn't It was a tone that was setting.
It seemed as though it's just, you know, the way
they're being discussed, like what are they? Are they any good?
Are they going to melt down? Like this is an
Arizona team that is trending up and and and listen,
Arizona still almost figured it out. You know. I think
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that there was some poor mismanagement at the end of
the game. I thought that they should have I thought
that they should have worked a little harder to get
a little closer to get a field goal. But nonetheless,
however you look at it, they still got to a
point of where they had a chance to tie this game.
And it just makes me wonder. I know these are
the two best teams in the NFC West. I know
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these are probably one. Arizona is probably one, one A
maybe two, maybe three, Maybe I give them three. But
what do we look at the Rams as right now?
Like to me, I said, it's Green Bay, it's Tampa Bay,
and in it's Arizona. But Arizona just lost to the Rams,
and the Rams are looking pretty good and their records
pretty good. So it's like, how am I looking at
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the Rams now? Can the Rams overtake them? Can they
overtake the Arizona Cardinals to win the NFC West? Are
are we at that point? I like that, Jonas, do
you have the odds for right now for the NFC
West here? It's an interesting question because I was thinking
this at the beginning the show. I was gonna ask
you guys, like if you had to bet right now?
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And I think it's been I mean, look, San Francisco
has been playing good of late. I don't know that
we we think they're better than these two teams if
you had to place a bet right now, though, and
I would assume Arizona's the favorite, probably because the record
and how much how many games we have left. I
don't know. The outside shot I might take the Rams.
I think they're gonna be the hotter team going into
the playoffs when it's all said and done, just because
of the last night, just because I'm telling you it's
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it's one of those feelings. It's one of those things
like you watch like Tampa last year, they didn't have
until late in the season. Once they did that, momentum
started building that Rams team is gonna be nowt and
they did it without their best about to say, and
they did it missing a few guys as well. And
that that's that spoke volumes. So let me ask you this,
whose schedule would you rather have down the stretch for
the l A. Rams. They've got Seattle at home, than
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they're at Minnesota at Baltimore, and then they've got the Niners,
and then with the with the Arizona Cardinals at Detroit
home against the Colts at the Cowboys home against the Seahawks.
I mean, that's the easy, yeah, probably by what a
couple of games, probably two games, so because we don't
know if we don't know how bad Lamars um, yeah,
(06:33):
we don't know how bad his injury is gonna be,
and that that would that might change how you look
at that Baltimore game, right, Yeah, certainly would change the dynamics.
So here's where we see the way. It's gotta be
like second guess every time I say Lamar said Laar
LaVar that time, I was getting confused when you did yesterday.
I'm like saying LaVar, it's Lamar Lamar saying LaVar to
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Lamar that will be coming gunside though, I'm like, I
can't even say it without second guessing. I believe I
am literally the only person, maybe outside of Lamar's that
would be able to get through a conversation with Lamar
and not say Lamar in place of LaVar. N do it.
But again it's in that broadcast, you know. I mean,
but you know that solo stuff, I do, you know,
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just a little bit. All right, here's the odds for
the NFC West. The Arizona Cardinals are a minus eight
hundred to win the division, which is uh, you know,
bet to eight hundred to win a hundred, So a
significant favorite to win the division. The l A Rams
are plus five fifty, So bet a hundred win five
fifty in return for those kind of odds. With the
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value you get in return, I would I would kick
the tires on the Rams. Why not? I mean, if
you if you're that questioning what the Arizona Cardinals and
what that looked like last night on display, and you
look at that and you go, well, maybe Aaron Donald,
just realize, you know, I'm tired of this crap. I'm
the defensive player of the Year. I should be that
every single year, and that was without Jalen Ramsey. Why
not kick the tires on the Rams. Plus, I'm gonna
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tell you what's even more scary to think about is
that von Miller still hasn't found his footing yet with
this team. He's probably not going to height. He might.
He just might. And I'm gonna tell you, and I'm
gonna tell you why I think he just might is
because you're seeing his his presence resonate with his linebacking
corps already, Like, make no mistake about it, you saw
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linebackers play at a very very high level, a higher
level than I've seen them play all season, and I
don't think that that's by coincidence. I think that's by
that's by influence. And and Von Miller, he shows he
still has the ability to get to the quarterback. He
shows the burst off of off of the ball. They're
not playing him as much, so there may be a
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little bit of a backstory as to why he's not
playing more than what he is. But I just got
this weird feeling that he's going to he's going to
catch on and and it's gonna it's gonna be at
the time where they most needed in the I'm I'm
telling I just get this air feeling that Vaughan is
gonna catch on. You cannot you cannot write a guy
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like that off. And then for Aaron Donald, it's so
funny because we were on this show and I'm like,
all right, who are we looking at as contenders for
this defensive Player of the Year. And I was like,
we haven't been able to say Aaron Donald's name, and
lo and behold. I mean, he goes out there and
I don't know that he puts himself in the m
v P Race conversation, but that certainly was a statement
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game in terms of applying your dominance to a game.
He started the game off with a big play and
he ended the game with a big play, So they
look pretty good. Remember how this this game like first,
the first matchup between these two teams, like Arizona beat
the dog in their house, and and this game. I
know it was a one touchdown, one score game at
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the end of it, but it felt like it was
a lot more distant than that was, you know, even
a tide to half. I was like, man, the rass
kind of feel like they're in control though, Like I
don't know, I just that this game gave me a
lot different feeling and what I saw from the first
matchup between these two. Sean McVeigh talked about Aaron Donald afterwards.
That's what the best do. They play their best when
their best is required. We talk about competitive greatness all
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the time. This guy is the epitome of competitive greatness.
Really proud of Aaron, not at all surprised, but he's
a special player, special person, and you felt his presence
from the very first snap and then to the last one,
and he was outstanding tonight. If he doesn't win NFC
Defensive Player of the Week, something's wrong. Well, I mean
the player of the week. I mean that's actually there's
a start. Those are the ones you want, you gotta
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by the way, you're you're the last game this past
of course. Yeah you make that statement now and retrospect on. Well,
hold on what Michael. I will say this, Michael Parsons,
it's not you got a campaign these days. I think
he had to two sacks? He had like seven tack
What do you get for player of the week? What
what is that like? You just get to play a
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coffee mug belt? I think they have been given out belts,
wrestling belts that yeah, I think so, Yeah, you know,
the championship, the player of the week. I watched Michael.
You know he gets a lot of a lot of awards,
weekly awards. Where'd he go? Did he go to college somewhere?
You know? Hey man, I gave a shout out to
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LaVar talk about Mica on a show yesterday a little
What do you guys? What do you guys make of
Arizona struggling at home like they do. They're undefeated on
the road, but they saw them fools gold Man. They
always make me nervous. Are they going to turn out
to be the Arizona Cardinals or are they going to
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take a step forward. That's that's how I look at Arizona.
At what point are they going to show us their
Arizona And I mean that might be right now because
we've seen it, especially last year, where late in the
season they started out, they started to fold, and a
lot of that was you know, Kyla Murray was banged
up late in the season last year, bang up again, Yeah,
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I mean it started hobbling around a little bit towards
the end of that guy. That's how he walks, like
I think he's got he's got a different walk. I
know what you're saying, He's got a little bit, did you, Guys?
I didn't feel like he was as explosive as he
usually is, like in some of those past rushes. I
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thought he might have scooted out. There was a third
how where he got flushed out of the pocket earlier
in the game, and they were making such a big
deal about Greg Gaines um making the tackle, which the
only reason Greg Gaines was able to cover down and
make the tackle is because Kyler put such a move
on Jones, the linebacker for the Rams, literally like lost
(12:42):
his jockstrap somewhere on the twenty yard line. It was
one of the best little hesitation stutters that he just
jetted right by him and then Gaines eventually as he
was like stutter stepping, like made the tackle from behind.
It was a ridiculous move and Kyler got like no
credit for it. And it's just he's so much fun
to watch scramble. He so quick. I just wonder was
(13:03):
he is he for as quick as he looked last night?
He's for me. I think he's looked quicker. He's looked
more explosive, and I didn't like I felt as though,
like even on that last play, like he would have
been able to not only escape the tackle allude to tackle,
but he would have been able to elude on Aaron
Donald and maybe get his feet set to throw it.
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He got through the first guys he did, so he didn't.
I mean he had he had the high ankle sprain, right,
and so he came back last week and two weeks
ago or whatever it was, Yeah, yeah, um, And so
he comes back from the high ankle sprain. Do you
think he's a percent Do you think he's I don't
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think that's, Like I said, he looked like he limped
a few times around like maybe he was getting sore,
you know, And I think that plays a major part.
Like I guess the reason why I'm bringing it up
is because I think this team is is close to unbeatable.
If Kyler Murray is does a little bit more, if
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if he moves around a little bit more, Yeah, I
think this team, I think it's a different game against
the Rams. They missed their shots too. You know, they
had an early shot to A J. Green. He got
some pressure in the pocket that the quarterback fell down
and it was just one of those deals where he
put it to the outside. Green looked at the inside
and you know they couldn't complete it. But like they
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had their opportunities and shots last night. I just I
don't know, man, Something about it felt like we we
watched like the beginning of a heavyweight boxing match and
Mike Tyson came out and just right from the get
go started throwing those haymakers and that was it. Like
you were like, oh, okay, like this is gonna be
the Rams night tonight. It's two pros and that cup
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FS are coming up later on this hour. One of
the most improbable achievements by an athlete that I can recall,
and it's something that everybody can relate to, although I
don't know that anybody's ever pulled this off. Pretty impressive
stuff by by one professional athlete there. So they call
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it tease in the radio industry. You guys are aware
of that, all right? Um, speaking of teases, Uh, the
very nice Why why don't I even like, why do
I even come in just to get my balls broken
every day? You're the one that like wanted us to
give you more credit atmosphere? Yeah, and that not insult me.
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Give me some credit, that's it? Yeah, something like that,
all right. So the the vultures have have circled the
skies high above Jacksonville. Um. This they continued on on Monday,
just the piling on of urban Meyer, just going all
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in on urban Meyer and the situation in Jacksonville's we
talked about yesterday. This feels like people had some issues
previously that they're now sort of digging back up and
going hard in the pain on urban Meyer and why
it's not gonna work in Jacksonville. Urban Meyer yesterday spoke
with the media per usual on a Monday following a game,
and urban Meyer talked about the one of the reports
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that we discussed yesterday about the alleged argument he had
with a player and the issues he had. Marvin Jones
is thrown out there. He was the Jaguars head coach yesterday.
I did mention it because it became you know, my
dear Amy here helps me out. So this is some
story about you had a heated argument with Marvin Jones.
You know, I see people stare at our phones and
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the players knew it. Sorry, so he doubled down on
that I had a heated argument with Yes, it didn't happen,
but I gotta move We gotta move on. And can
I give up Marvin's text number or something? I love
how reporters laugh with you so that they could keep
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you saying stuff. It's like you're laughing. It's like, yeah, okay, okay,
tell us more. I mean, you listen. You gotta well,
you gotta. You gotta wash the guy's balls from time
to time. You gotta so hilarious. Yeah, yeah, you do.
You gotta gotta get get make the guy feel good
about it. Would you like to have Marvin's text number? Now?
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Urban Meyer also um he talked about the the issues
in Jacksonville. He went on and on here was more
about from the Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer yesterday, discussing
all the drama and the friction there between the Jags,
the media and everything else surrounding it. Worry about James mentality,
worry about Marvin Jones mentality, because that's reality, what you
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just said, reality, reality of an athlete and reality of
a coach. When you work so freaking hard at something
and it's not executing, that's an absolute And I have
experienced that some of his other stuff, the stories, and
I've never heard of that kind of stuff in my life,
but I have heard about frustration. Every coach and every
athlete that was frustration. So Trevor Lawrence has defended h
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just the situation and stood up and spoke about their
locker room and you know, just dealing with this stuff
when it comes along with it and just sort of
rallying around each other. Everybody has said there, you know,
we've got a great locker room. So on and so forth.
Maybe not so much coaching staff, but the the great
locker room. I'm just saying, you know, they've got some
rats there. There's some most snakes that are that are
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you know, uh in in the building there. But this
just feels like this is gonna be a conversation that's
going to continue on. Shod Con has said that he
doesn't feel like he needs to make any sort of
a rush to judgment now or a decision right now
unless this gets just absolutely awful and takes on another turn. Brady,
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I can't see them making a move in season. This
is going to be something that they discussed after the season. Yeah,
but you heard shot Con made a statement yesterday saying
it's not gonna be hasty with his decision, and I
think he's gonna give it time. Here's what you also
to take into account of shot Con the pre existing
relationship with Urban Meyer. They've known each other for a
long time. He's admired what Urban has done at Florida
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and Ohio State in other places he's been And I
think he knew signing up for this that if you
would have lived in that world where you're gonna live
week to week and you're gonna live in a vacuum
of just you know, different stretches throughout this season, it's
gonna be tough. It's gonna look bad. This hasn't been
the worst team in the NFL a year ago. They're
one of the worst teams in the NFL. But that's
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not to say there's not some bright spots there's no
doubt Trevor Lawrence as a franchise quarterback, at least in
my mind. He just doesn't have any help around him. Now.
How much can the coaching staff do on that side
of the ball. You know, that's the tough part to
try to answer, because there's some young pieces, there's some
pieces that I'm sure they'd like to upgrade or improve upon,
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but that's gonna take time. You know, you can't turn
it over as quickly as you'd like. In the NFL,
their defense has been good at times, but not consistently enough.
So I think all in all, cooler heads will prevail
and and they'll talk after the season about what they
would have do moving forward. I just I think if
urban was to step down, it would be on his
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own volition. It wouldn't be that shot Khan fires him
after one year. I just don't think that's been his
track record. I don't think he'd want to do that.
And I think that the tough thing for me about
thinking of if urban Meyer would step down after one
year would be I think he kind of knows what
he signed up for and the challenge, like he likes challenges,
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man like it, and this is one that it's a
true challenge, like trying to rebuild this thing back up
and figure out how to do at the NFL level.
So I just I know everyone's making a big deal
about it now, and that's what the media does. And
as I said before, I don't think he ever got
a fair shot when he got into the league. So
I'm actually I'm rooting for him to be in the
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NFL long just so, if not only just so the
media has to deal with, you know, some of what
they've dealt with this year, and and and maybe if
they don't like it, good deal with it, like for once,
like you're gonna have to deal with someone who's gonna
build this thing back up and maybe make it successful
when you have to deal with that or the consequence
whatever that may be five and eleven and eighteen two thousand, eighteen,
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six six wins or five five wins in two thousand
and eighteen, six wins in two thousand, nineteen, one win
in two thousand. So again, I always find it interesting
when when I when I was playing and I had
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gotten deep enough into losing as as a pro, you
start to really sit back and you measure in you
way your locker room, your friends. It's like, am I
a loser? And then you start to look around, am
I hanging around losers? Like what's the company that I'm keeping?
What's what's the environment like? And it always trips me
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out when a team kind of overvalues themselves when they're
not successful. It's like we're holding urban Meyer. The public,
the the media, they're all holding urban Meyer to this
standard of what urban Meyer has been throughout his career.
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It's like, oh, the urban Meyer effect. He comes straight
to Ohio State and they become this powerhouse of a team,
and everything that he did in Florida, they became this
powerhouse of a team. And it's like, why isn't Jacksonville
becoming this powerhouse of a team because they suck? Of course,
(23:33):
s con isn't gonna make a quick decision, y'all suck.
Like when you have an opportunity with somebody that is
a proven winner. And we just talked about how those
those things surfaced about him, whether it's true or not,
saying that I'm a winner, Like what y'all's resume? Like,
I'm gonna be honest. Sometimes you gotta have car hard conversations.
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It is funny because when you think back to the
Illinois Penn State game and leading up to that aim
and we had the conversation about the coach and how
he said, well, we're gonna have to recruit this position.
We've not had any any uh, good guys stand out
at these positions. At this he basically called out every
single position of his team and said we gotta recruit better,
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we gotta do better. And everybody lost their pants, everybody
lost their minds. Everybody was talking about how this man,
how can he talk to these guys this way? How
can he say these things? He's gonna lose the team
this that. Another one thing I can tell you is
if you have a losing mentality and everybody's walking around
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feeling like losers, you're gonna lose. If somebody is not
going to be that person that says, hey, look, I'm
not gonna walk around amongst you losers and let myself
become a loser. I'm going to influence you to to
want to be something different than that. And and that's
what happens in locker rooms where you don't win, you
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gotta have somebody that's gonna give you harsh truth. You're
walking around here right now and you're comfortable and you're
happy and you're okay, something's wrong, something's wrong, and something
might be wrong with you. You can look at me
and say urban Meyer. Oh, he he was in the
bar and he had the shorty on his lag. He's
a winner. That's why I'm looking at you. Guys. I win.
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If you get me the opportunity to win, we'll win.
But I'm gonna go to my restaurant and I'm a
visit with people and have a good time and let
people dozy dough on my kneecap. I'm gonna do that
because I'm a winner. Now, either y'all want to win
because they hired me to come here so we can win,
or y'all can keep being what you want to be.
And if y'all want to have this internal bite back
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biting and and bickering and moaning and groaning and victimhood,
then you got the wrong guy. And then now you
gotta see where you're going to weed out the certain
people that may bring down the value of trying to
create a winning culture. I also think and Brady, obviously
you would know this because you worked with them in
the past. Couple of years. This isn't like just spur
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the moment he was like, you know what, I'll go
be a coach in the NFL. Why not. He'd had
to have been contemplating this and thinking about if he
was ready to make a move for a while now,
and this opportunity popped up, and I think that he
looked at it and thought about it long enough, and
he made the move that he thought he could ultimately
have success in making this move. After he made the
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decision to go to the NFL. This idea that everybody
just expected it was gonna work right away. I get
or there's no way. Urban Meyer came into this thinking, oh,
you know, we're gonna be a ten win team fighting
for a playoffs. But he probably realized this is gonna
take some time, and it's gonna take me a time
to get the right guys around me. It's not gonna
happen in one year. And everybody's just ready to go. No,
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it's got to go. Until the Var's point, they were
a bad teams long as time ago. Nobody from that
team is on this roster anymore, that team that was
six minutes away from going to a super Bowl. This
idea this is all urban Meyer that's leading to all
this problem and all these issues in Jacksonville. I just
think it's a bunch of crap. I think it's all
great points. I mean, this organization has really since it's expansion,
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since it was an expansion team and had talented players. Uh,
I like your Mark Brunel's your Maurice Jones, Drew's your
Fred Taylor's your you know, you can throw a bunch
of other guys in the category, Tony Baselli, you know,
since those early days, and by the way, I probably
left out a bunch of guys Taylor Brooks, Tony Brackens. Yeah.
(27:39):
So the the truth is since early on, Yeah, Straw
was a beast. Paul was les Nime. That's the only
other guy I'll say that has that that that look.
Paul Lesnie has that Brady you Quinn look. I'm just said,
he'll give you a run. People would have looked at like, about,
(28:01):
why do you get so jacked? When the NFL, I
was like, well, I trained with Paul puzz Leslie coming
out when we were like best buds for a minute
training for the COMBA together. I looked like in the
gym I would have been standing there like, good God,
look at those two men over there, good looking men.
I digress talking with Urban. Over the couple of years
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I worked with him, he had plenty of opportunities, He
had plenty of teams and people poking around, and it
became pretty apparent that in the state of college football,
I think he wanted that next challenge and it didn't
want to be necessarily at you know, Southern Calors somewhere
else like that. It wanted to be that next step
up and see if you could do it at the
(28:45):
NFL level. I just think the hard thing is we
see in college like good jobs come open, right like,
not necessarily good jobs because there was a lack of productivity.
I mean, you do get jobs that come open because
guys just decided to leave Brian Kelly Loft Notre Dame.
They had won ten or more games the last five seasons.
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I mean, that's a good job. Obviously I'm biased, but
I think we'd agree. You know, it's not a good
spot right now, but that job came open, And there's
other examples of that I think in college football. You know,
in the NFL, it's not like that, Like seldom do
you ever see someone leave, Like a good situation like
that doesn't happen. Usually it's a bad football team. They
didn't have success that Jaguars haven't had success with the
(29:28):
exception of that. I don't want to say a fluke
a f C Championship appearance season, you know what with
Blake Bortles four years ago, whatever it was. But that's
the truth. Like no one expected to get there. They
got there, and and they've they've struggled ever since, and
they struggled before that. So this is an organization that
it's going to take time. You kind of have to
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knock it all down in order to build that foundation
again to build it back up. And I think what
we're seeing right now is an organization that has had
someone come in there and push as many buttons as
he is to try to get things steered back in
the right direction. Like you hear him talking about you know,
you know, rumors and stuff coming out from his coach
(30:11):
staff for leaks, and he's like, I've never heard of that.
I've never experienced that. You hear all these different reports
coming out. He's like, that was never a part of
any team I was ever with, And it's because it
was obviously a different culture, and he built it a
different way. That's where Jacksonville is trying to get to
and it's gonna take time. It's gonna take a lot
of patients in time, and I know their fan base
already has been patient. But that's where they're at right now.
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They're just every partro Bowlers. Does does Jacksonville have currently?
Oh god, I don't think any. I don't think any.
I wouldn't. I mean, Josh Allen might be the only one.
I say, you know, you could have made a case
even though I don't even know, like this year. That
was more what I think last year, and he's made
one in the past. But I'm just saying, if you
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think about what you just did in terms of bringing
up those names you're talking about up for the Hall
of Fame, perennial Pro Bowlers and All Pros. When we're
talking about those those teams that Tom Coughlin led, that
that had all of that success, you are going to
have to amass an amount of talent in Jacksonville to
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be able to compete yours. It just has to happen.
And in fact, if you think about it, that's every team.
It's every team you have to have pro bowlers emerge,
You have to have lead. We just talked about it
leading off in the show. Your big dogs have to
show up to the big dog fights, like and no,
you know, I don't condone dog fighting to it to
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all the sensitivity people out there. But what I'm saying is, yeah,
let me make sure I disclaimer that. Uh but what
I what I Yeah, I just I just think that
they're going to need way more to land developed or
(32:02):
or acquired before you can even start to beginning processes
of how are we going to judge urban Meyer? Take
a couple of years, so to judge him now if
if people are really judging him now, like, oh, he
didn't turn it around right now? You don't understand what
building is You don't you don't understand what this would
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be the equivalent of of urban Meyer at the college
level of taking the absolute worst bottom team and turning
it into a competitive team. Say, and like, what the
the a f C or or even the SEC. What's
the bottom dwelling team of the SEC? Definitely not South Carolina?
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All right, maybe they might be in there. Oh, come on,
they might be in there. Spencer Rattler, Now are you
talking about my gosh, I'm just saying, imagine him having
to go takeovers s C right and and then become
the winner the top competing team in that conference. Yeah,
it's you know what I'm saying, like, that's it's not
realistic to think that, but it's you know, and it's
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all but any other coach, any other coach, I think
would be given a much more fair of a shot
in the media that Urban Meyer's gone. And that's the
point I'm making. It's just it's I think that's the
point we're all making, which it's not an excuse, it's
just that it's truth. It takes time to build, especially
when it's a crappy team. It just it takes time.
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case you missed it, and for that we turn it
over to executive producer and lead the laugh to find
out what the hell is going on? Lee. You guys,
what's the most you've ever spent at a fast food joint?
That's at least fifty dollars every time I go? Six
just for you? No, okay, just for you though, oh
(35:36):
just for me? Yeah, yeah, it seems about right. Fifteen
maybe all right? I once created at seven dollar sub
at So this is how this works every bit. Obviously,
(35:57):
you obviously get a foot long, right uh. If you
get the gluten free bread, that's like a sixteen dollar
add on, so that's where the price went up a
little bit. I did happen to get double meat? I
think I added I had a few add ons there.
It was literally a Philly cheese sting. But like with
the gluten free bread, double meat, double cheese, I'm gonna
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throws a bacon on there next thing. I know, thirty
seven dollars for a sub from Jersey Mikes. Did you
have a whole bunch of eggs fish eggs on there? There?
Were you drunk or was this post workout? Uh? Neither.
I think I just got done doing big New kickoff
for Fox. It was like the afternoon. I was like
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a little and advertise the commercials. I was like, now
what a Jersey mics up? And you probably hadn't eatn
an hour? So that I literally do not eat. So
this was always like playing or even to this day,
I really don't eat before we ever do anything because
I'm always like I don't want to have to go
to the bathroom, like either when it was during a
(37:00):
game or like during a show, because it's you're not
for two hours to the bathroom. So that's incredible, well
as impressive as that is, Brady, it's not quite as
impressive as John Daly, who posted a picture on social
media of his tab that he racked up at Taco
Bell with the disclaimer don't drink in order Taco Bell
on Uber eats, his bill racked up to four hundred
(37:22):
and forty six dollars. Christ Man for the mom. What
is delivering here? Like ten bucks fee? Probably probably like
a hundred dollar fee, but still four six dollars a
Taco Bell. Twenty dollars a Taco Bell will get you
infinite Taco Bell. I'm looking at it right now. He's
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got ten crunchy Taco Supreme, ten spicy double steak, grilled cheese,
breed cheat night. All this, by the way, this is like,
I mean, what actually eating all himself? How many trips
to the bathroom we're talking on this over under four
and a half? Oh easily more than that? Yeah, over right,
(38:06):
I can't believe. Yeah, unbelievable. That's a you know, listen, um,
get after it, man, I gave it, dude, you gotta
do fourty six dollars. That was more left hand cigarettes
smoking than it was intoxication though, just so we're clear
on that. Yeah, you know you will make that mistake
(38:28):
when you're left hand cigarette and it you know from
what I hear. Yeah, that's the word out there on
the streets. You for all you weed freaks out there,
Hold on, man, don't be judgmental. I'm just saying. We
three just say people who part two and medicinal you
know terms, it's like terms in dear me. You know,
it's like a little bit shot, a little bit of love.
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What else you got, lee you guys? In case you
missed it? Back in Halloween, we had talked about Longhorn
Special Teams coordinator Jeff Banks and his girlfriend the pole
Assassin and her monkey trick treater in the lawsuit said
the pole assassin and who appeared on the pole? Yeah
completely what you say, poll assassin and and her monkey
who bit a trigger treater. Yea, I thought you said
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her monkey that clamps the poles as well. Well, the
monkey does climb the pole as well. There you go.
That might be the funniest thing that has ever gone
over live radio. And maybe people missed it. What about
in case you miss it? We've also talked about Christmas
decorations on the show. Well in Texas, the Texas A
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and M Fan is trolling his Texas fan neighbor with
his Christmas decorations of a candy cane with a mannequin
that is dressed as a as a Santa's Helpers, so
to say, with another mannequin dressed as Jeff Banks, Longhorned
Special Teams coordinator and dressed as Santa. That's too much, thoughts. Yeah,
it's really creepy. Um, it's done really well. Like where
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do you where do you get ahold of a bull?
Of mannequins like that? There's too much, too much, just
too much, like looted department store. Like where do you
get a couple of mannequins like that? Maybe from the
maybe from the movie Man. Yeah, that's a great movie. Man,
that's a great movie. Mannequin underrated flick for those U
me a horrible movie. I don't know. I don't think so.
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It's a great song. David Bowie? Who is that? What
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