December 28, 2021 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar discuss the new rule allowing NFL teams to interview coaching candidates early, and whether or not it will affect Matt Nagy and the Bears. Bowl games are being cancelled, but should the decision come down to the players? Plus, Denver is struggling but firing Vic Fangio shouldn't be the answer.
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Throw it, LaVar rock Ham stream Yeah yeah they all right.
Uh well that was that was a close call, pretty
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certain that almost got over the air. But we're going
to take you all the way up until night am
Easter tix o'clock Pacific right here, off or all of
us off. If we if they hurt, like what, you go,
we go, one one person together, you go, we go.
That's how this works. I'm gonna be saying, backdraft, I
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really hate to see this end this way for y'all
that sorry, sorry that this ended this way. Sorry, just
just being honest right there. You know, I'd be watching
y'all walk out, like, man, you know, let's go to
a break. Um, make sure Jonas and Berto and we
get out to their car safely. Do you think they
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would have security escort us all? Absolutely not. For I
think they'd be worried about Roberto, especially some of the stories,
some of the stories he's told on the air about
his time at Dodger Stadium and his heavy drinking day.
Is like, yeah, let's go ahead, Uh, you know, get
the full security in here to get him out of
the Have you ever had a serious like altercation at
one of the games where you were being a fan
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and you had to defend yourself many times? Many times?
Give me one, give me one good one that doesn't
incriminate you. Uh yeah, I can go all right. I
think kicked out of Doctor's Stadium one time. I was
in stating the pavilion, like, I kicked out and then
up ended up on ended up in field level. So
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that was an upgrade. So you got kicked out, but
you ended up on the field level, Yeah, because that's
all the security was back back then. Holding on a second,
how the hell did you get from the like that's
a completely different part of the stadium, Like it almost
is even part of the stadium you migrated. Is that
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is that's unbelievable. Back in the day, if you smoke cigarettes,
it were like like Mark, you're taken in the back
and my my buddy like figure all the guy's signature
was so he like just copied it and we didn't. Yeah,
we're just smoking cigarettes here. By the way, the smoking
is actually had dodged. Your stadium was literally like a
four by eight, boss. Everybody just humbled around before COVID
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and just had heaters of their mouths. Like even it
was just so weird, man. Yeah, but there's nothing sexy
about cigarettes. Man, never had one. You never cigarette, Brady,
one of us man, Like, we didn't think there were
many of those left. We haven't either. Man. I'll still
never forget when I remember I was out in Scottsdale.
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I think we're at a bar club whenever I was
with my buddy and I couldn't find him looking around,
you know, bar's closing, and I walked outside he is
smoking a cigarette like a champ. I mean, it was
one of those things where you looked at him, You're like,
I mean ever since he moved to my hometown. We
were like in separable best man at a wedding, all
that he's smoking this cig and I'm like, I've never
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known that you smoked ever, like you've never We told
each other everything, man, like we both know like where
the bodies are buried. And I was like, it looks
like you've been doing this your whole day of life.
And he just kind of looked at me and nodded
to give you a wig. I was just talking to
some shape. He pulled the cigarette off of it. I'm like,
what the hell is this man? But yeah, I just
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I've never wanted to ever try maybe not my not
my things. Yeah. Sorry, not trying to judge who smoked,
but you should stop. Yeah, And I'm not judging you,
but you should stop. Yeah. Yeah, But I mean, if
you're gonna do it, it's isn't cool to put it
out on the bottom of your shoe. It's like a
better lucky I would think lighting your your match on
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your pants, like Clint Eastwood used to do this full
of dollars, a little hide and go seek on that
all Right, here we go. That's a movie that couldn't
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be made today. All right, it is two prols of
a cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports Radio, Slavarrington. It's
Brady Quince, Jonas Knox, and we've got ourselves the coaching
carousel in the NFL that is heating up. So here's
how this works. This is a new rule this year
starting today to where teams can interview candidates on other
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teams and and getting get an early start on this
whole thing. So they want to move on from a coach,
they can already have discussions with other assistant coaches around
the league. So the Jaguars are probably, you know, gonna
be reaching out to some some coaches and some assistants
are gonna be having discussions with these other guys. And
there's been some rumblings that there could be some other
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coaches that are on the hot seat that teams may
also want to be having conversations with assistance to try
and fill the void. One of those we've heard this
before is Matt n Aggey and the Chicago Bears. The
report out this weekend was if things go bad enough
for them in Seattle, that the Bears could make a
change Monday, meaning yesterday, to try and get ahead start
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on their coaching search well. As it turned out, the
Bears rallied one a game on the road at Seattle,
and then Matt Naggy was asked about some of the rumors.
Again not the first time this season he's had to
answer these questions, and he was asked by the media.
Here's with his response in the expectation on where he
stands with the organization throughout the rest of the year.
We stay on the same path as far as the
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communication that that we have with George, Ted, Ryan and myself.
Nothing's changed there. And every year you're always aware of
the situation of your team and players, coaches, all that stuff.
And we're continuing to move forward this week and prepare
for the Giants and I and we all owe that
to each other for today and for this week with
the Giants and finishing out this week on a high
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note trying to get a win and then doing again
in the final game of the season. So nothing has
changed as far as communication that way, Yeah, he's out
of there, it's over. It's by the way, do you
think he already knows Brady that he's out of there
or would he even still be in the building if
he was already given the clue that he was going
to be gone. I think he's got an idea. I
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honestly don't think many of these coaches are in the dark.
I know one NFL coach who literally, I think it
was the owner, he texted them after the game and
just says, Hey, why don't you just come down to
me in the coach office quick so we can get
this over with, Like he knew it was coming as
soon as their final game with a season hit, and
it was like that quick of a conversation, like oh yeah,
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I mean, this stuff isn't a well kept secret. Uh No,
one keeps secrets anymore. It's just it's hard to in
this this damn age. I do think it's interesting though,
the idea that you're getting the jump on other teams
who want to make this decision, maybe by a couple
of weeks. Does that provide you that much of an
advance it? I mean, if if I'm at highly coveted
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or potential head coaching candidate highly coveted one, am I
just like jumping at the first opportunity that I'm given?
Or am I gonna be more patient to say, let's
let's see what other opportunities come from this, Like I
don't know that in the NFL it really plays to
an advantage too well. Or to even start though, Like
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what's the point of starting at this point? So you
got a couple of extra week can start. I mean, look,
I don't know. Again, I've never been through a head
coaching search. You know, I've never owned a team. I
couldn't tell you if that. I'm just I'm looking at
more saying if if I was a potential candidate, I
don't know that I'm rushing to go be the next
head coach of one of these thirty two NFL teams
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without knowing what are their opportunities gonna be there at
the end of the season so they can make whatever
the decision they want. I mean, the reality is if
you're just gonna base it not firing them off of
this one win, okay, But I think you need to
look at the entire body of work, and that's a
tough thing. When you look at bad Naggie's entire body
of work. He's got a decent win loss record, Like
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I know, it's got in the wrong direction. Since he's
got there, maybe us to play for that. A lot
of things I can play for that, right. That's funny. Listen.
It's interesting because the conundrum is waiting versus jumping on it,
knowing that you could be the next Urban Meyer, You
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could be the next Nag. You could be you could
be one of these guys that doesn't get a a
real substantial amount of time to to make something happen,
to make it work. Or you could actually find yourself
in a position where it could work out. And I
think that the problem that coaches will face is that
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you do have to move on it. If if a
team comes your way and says, look, we want hire you,
we want to try to get this done. Now, you
have to move on it. You can't. It's almost I
would I would say, what, what coaches out there that
would be available would actually have the mindset of saying,
let me, let me hold off and wait and let
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me see how many other teams might want to offer
me a gig. Let's let's just see what the landscape
is gonna be. I think that when you get hit
with the opportunity and you get that call, you gotta
take it. And and it could be a jacked up situation.
It could be Jacksonville, but you're doing it for the money,
then you basically saying I need to pay that. I
don't even know if it's I mean, I'm certain the
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money would play a part in it, but I think
it's more the opportunity as well. You know, It's it's like,
I'm going to take the opportunity because even if I
fail in this opportunity of being the head coach of
this this crappy team, I still have the opportunity to
try and make it better than what it was before.
Because ultimately coaches are looking at it from the standpoint
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of everybody thinks that this is a crap organization or
crap team anyway. So if I go in here and
I can do halfway decent somewhat decent. For one, I
put hey coach on my resume as a as an
NFL coach too, I made some good money while I
was doing it. And three, we all know that somebody
is going to hire you on their staff somewhere else
as a defensive coordinator, as an offensive coordinator, as as
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an analyst they're gonna have They're gonna hire you there.
You're going to get retreads all over to play. But
then you get a situation like Cam Cameron or Steve Wilkes,
where the situation is bad enough and those guys are
never ever going to get an opportunity again. Steve Wilkes,
right or wrong, fair knot, is never going to get
an opportunity to be a head coach again. But by
the way, I think it's an unrealistic scenario what you're saying,
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only because I'm not saying that as a candidate, you're
not going to take that interview. But the job's not
gonna be offered right now. It's not gonna be offered
the next two weeks. If you're starting your search now,
you're doing it to give yourself more time and so
you can bring it. I would imagine a list of
entity it's I mean, you still have to fulfill the
rooty rule anyway, and then you have to move on
after that to find the right coach. So I don't
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know that you're all of a sudden making a quick decision,
because what real jump does that give you. I get it.
You're talking about two weeks between now the end of
the season for other teams that are gonna be in
the same boat that you're competing with. So I just
I think a lot of these a lot of these
jack job openings. You know, if if you want to
do it two weeks early, great, But I don't know
that that really changes or makes a difference and who
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you're gonna end up with the head coach, I really don't.
I don't think it makes a difference because they probably
already know who they head coach is going to be
before they even get to the interview, a list of
guys and oh no, they well, they're gonna have a
list because they may not get the guy that they want,
but they know who they want. They already know who
they want. Like Rooney rule all that that that's fine semantics.
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They know who they want. So so the two weeks
doesn't matter outside of are we going to get the
guy that we want? I would say. The only the
only people that that it does truly matter to and
and it shouldn't matter to the organization because it matters
to them, is the fan base. And it's because you're
always constantly when you're I saw this firsthand. When your
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team sucks as bad as it like some of these
teams sucked, like the Washington football team sucked, you had
to start selling hope even before the season was over
for the next season. To win that off season whatever
it may have been when you sucked that bad, you
gotta do things that appease your fan base, and whatever
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that may be, you're going to do it, whether it's
going after a high profile uh, a free agent, whatever
it may be. As you get into to the end
of the season and going into that offseason, these organizations
have to figure out how are we going to continue
to sell hope and and otherwise, you know, kind of
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interpreted hopeless situation. You know, it's weird about the whole
You already know who your guy is, which which I buy,
and I think there's teams out there that have identified
or this is the one that's going to make sense.
And also if you if your GM is still going
to stay in place like the Bears, it's Ryan Pace
could be in trouble as well too. That's been out there,
so it could be a wholesale change. But like great hair,
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unbelievable hair. Um was it like contours that the old
the old hair spray? Think he uses that or is
it just think he uses maiden tail to wash it?
That's a good points. I mean, I'm just saying, and
then that horse shampoo. Yeah, that's that's a good point.
He's got that beautiful oily coat to it. He does,
definitely does. But like with with the Bear, like Jacksonville,
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Trent Balky is gonna stay put and he's gonna have
a you know, communication with is definitely gotta you gotta
wonder how he's able to pull that off all the time.
You know, it's almost like the track record hack back unbelievable.
But with with like the coaching search, like Mike Tomlin,
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he was a Roooney Rule interview. They weren't thinking about
hiring Mike Tomlin like he would. They brought him in
because they needed to, you know, dot the i's and
cross the t's. Sean McVeigh wants to think everything plays
out by the book, you know what I mean, Like
you could say, well, the Rooney Rule doesn't do what
it's supposed to do. I mean, there can be exceptions
to the rule, but for the most part, you gotta
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believe when somebody, like if you don't think for two seconds.
The Steelers had an idea who they wanted their coach
to be. Who this is who we want, This is
the coach we want however it ended up what whoever
ended up getting the interviews or who got hired or whatever.
I mean, I don't know, but I'm just telling you
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these these teams know who they want. So if somebody
comes in and they wow someone and they create an
opportunity for themselves, I'm not saying that that's not a
possibility to happen. I mean, things can happen, you know,
you get that opportunity to take advantage of it. But
I'm just saying it's it's highly unlikely at the guy
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that the candidate that's available that they want, they already
know who the person is, They're already generally familiar with them,
or their reputation is so sky high they're so hot
right now that you want that. This is what I want.
This is who I want. Look at what Arizona did.
This is who I want. That's what the Rams did.
This is who I want. You know, it's what Green
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Bay did. So I mean, but but generally speaking, you know,
there is the opportunity. That's why you do interviews. It's
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We are going to get to a story. Some details
have now come out and a lot of money was lost,
a lot of money was gained, but now we've got
some bad bud, bad blood, excuse me, potentially brewing. We
will get to that here. I want to let you
know it can happen easily. A few drinks with them,
a few too many, it's time to go. Anything in
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You get pulled over, you lose your license, you told
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her your car, you kill someone, drive sober, or get
pulled over. Paid for by NITZA. So I don't know
if anybody's noticed, but a lot of bowl games aren't happening.
Uh there's you know, guys opting out. We got COVID issues,
We've got teams canceling, we got teams that are actually
in the actual city that the bowl game is being
played in, and uh, the other team decides they don't
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want to play. The latest one is the Arizona Bowl,
the bar Stool Sports Bowl, which is now which is
now off because well, uh, Dave Portnoy uh, the founder
of our stools, said the game is canceled. I said, um,
you know, time means they got an insurance policy, like
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they're not gonna lose anybody on that they bought. There
was smart and they bought insurance for it because that
that's how all this operates right now. Like if you
think about how last off, you know, last season one
was sports. If you have a bowl game and you
don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover your
losses in the event that COVID rears, it's it's it's
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you know, ugly head, then you're just bad at business.
But that's what that needs. Some of these other bull
games where you see like them trying to fill out
those teams, there's a lot more to that store. There's
a reason why they want to try to set something
up to put on some sort of game and some
sort of exhibition. UH. Central Michigan UM. And this was
after Boise State UM had some COVID issues UH and
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UH they decided to not want to partake in the
games of Central Michigan. UH. Instead of looking for an opponent,
they took the opportunity to go play in the Sun Bowl,
the Tony the Tiger sun Bowl. UH. And one of
the reports out from Ross Dellinger is that the Sun
Bowl is televised on CBS with a payout of four
point five five million. The Arizona bar Stool Board Bull
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is streamed on YouTube with a payout of three. So
there you go. Ye all comes down to money. I
mean it just the whole thing sucks because I understand
people are concerned about COVID and they feel the way
they feel about it, and that's a whole another conversation,
whether you know the severity of it. And I mean,
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now the c d C is saying, well, you know,
you don't need a quarantine for that long you gets
it's now half the time. It just feels like we
keep lowering the bar and we're starting to do it
in sports. But yeah, it's it. I feel bad for
the guys who aren't going to get an opportunity to
play ever again. This is it. And that's a majority
of these guys who aren't going to be NFL players.
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They're not gonna be playing in the CFL, the XFL.
This is it for them. They're gonna go pursue whatever
it is that they majored in in college and they're
gonna live a different life. This is it for them,
Like this is it. Last year was a disaster for
so many people involved. Some guys probably opted to come
back and want to be a part of it because
they said, I don't want to go out like that,
and yet here we are again, like bowl games are
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getting canceled when it feels like there's solutions that could
be made and solutions that could be figured out here,
and nobody's willing to do it. They're just like, yeah,
it's too easy to bail, so we're just gonna bail
and pull that pull that angle on this. It sucks.
I feel bad for those guys. I'm with you, though,
because because the reality is like we lose sight a
little bit of that, and I know it doesn't seem
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significant to everyone on the outside, but they also don't
understand all the hard work and effort and sweat, sweat
and sacrifices these guys have put in to want to
have one last chance to do it before they move
on to whatever that next step is. And so that
is the unfortunate reality of it. I mean, I I
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you know, I don't go back to my hope. It's
how that often. But what I do when I see
guys I played with kind of you kind of take
for granted how much the game meant to them, and
that was at a high school level, and talking about
like things that I can't even remember, either because of
concussions or just because I had other experiences after that, right, Like,
I don't know, but my whole point is just you
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kind of forget and take for granted, like what it
means to those people. And I said this last year
in regards to any level of it. You know, at
some point you gotta let these young men decide for themselves.
Stop making decisions for them, no different than right now, Like,
make decisions for yourself, take the information you have, make
it for yourself, stubble letting other people tell you what
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to do. It's just it's gotten to such an odd
point in our lives and in our time to where
we just let everyone dictate what we do, like a
bunch of sheep. I'm not trying to get like into
the political realm of things. I'm just saying, like with
all this stuff, like these bull games get canceled, they
immediately come out change the CDC guidelines. I don't know
if we had an impact on some of these teams,
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are not, It seems like may have. I don't know,
but I do feel for a lot of these athletes
who will never get to play football game and we forget,
like what supercent one percent end up moving on to
play professionally from college. I mean, it's just it's crazy
to think how how this season went on without a
hitch and we get to this point we just slammed
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the brakes on and everything starts to fall apart. That's
where it gets kind of interesting, is what you made
it through the season and now all of a sudden,
it's like, let's panic, Like let's hit the panic, but
with more time to get ready for a game that
you had all season long. Yeah, you know. I think
another thing that has to be taken into consideration is
COVID's impacting what's going on right now, but it's also
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impacted the entirety of of college athletics altogether, because you're
talking about classes of kids that are going to get displaced,
that are done playing since last year. I mean, if
you think about it in those who are wondering what
I'm saying, when that COVID year hit last year the
way that it did, and it gave people the opportunity
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to come back for an extra year, an extra season
at at the level at the amount of people that
that we're able to do it, it created a log
jam the transfer portal has cost it high school kids
scholarship opportunities. I've I've been directly hit by it with
some of my kids. They were weighing out where they
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wanted to go, waiting last minute to make decisions, and
they lost out on getting a scholarship because they took
somebody from the portal. It's you know, it's just such terrible.
Well again, it's it's the idea of the games aren't
being played, they're being canceled. And to some it's like, oh,
it's a singular game, doesn't matter that much, just that
the other. But you're talking about guys that now aren't
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getting that opportunity to play those last games that they
will ever play. They will be displaced for good. Like
you'll try to play in Canadian League, you'll try to
go to Arena League, you'll try to go to start
up leagues. You will be chasing your dream of playing
football competitively for a really long time after this ends.
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And you didn't get that last that last I mean,
I'd like to call it a fix. You didn't get
that last fix. But then now you're talking about again
the ripple down effect of everything that has been impacted
by COVID. The ripple down effect is you have kids
that aren't even going to play college ball at all,
you know, or they may go to a smaller school
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than what they would have maybe originally been anticipating or
had the opportunity to go to, just because of everything
that has been disrupted in the flow of outgoing and
in going incoming talent as it applies to college ball.
So it's and I wanted just at the high school level,
like how many guys had an opportunity or players athletes
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in general had an opportunity to go get a D
one scholarship and their senior season got wiped out, wiped out, ravaged,
and now they're looking at going the Juco route, they're
looking at going to a fortune if they're lucky enough
from there, go to a D two school. I just
I just rose to them, like every every level. I
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just think people's trajectory got completely butchered because there was
a panic that was set in. I mean, look, we
saw the Pack twelve. I mean was a disaster the
way they handled it. If you think if it was
handled that way the bill, it was a disaster with
the big time mediad justin fields and guys you know, uh,
you know, marching to try and get a season. Just
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the whole thing is bizarre, and it just feels like
there's an element of that that still is lasting. And
was sitting on my couch. Oh wait, was sitting on
my couch and they're getting the call like, man, like
we're gonna do it, Like we're gonna we're gonna play
a game next week, like they're sitting on my here
in California right like we gotta go like tomorrow. That's
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how their season started. And people will sit there and say, oh,
Franklin and oh, these guys they don't know how to
play or data. They can't coach this that, and other
dudes were sitting on couches. They got called in to
come play, and they were sitting on like they didn't
even think they were gonna have a season. Now all
of a sudden, you have a season. You know, It's
it's interesting, man. And then you know, people get judged
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like Mica sat out last year. Michael was on the
couch too, all right, so that they get judged for
sitting out. But then you sit there and you say, well,
I asked him, you know, what is your reason? And
he was like, listen, I can't put my best foot
forward under these circumstances. I can. I can do more
damage for all the people that will say I've done
damage to my reputation and to what my resume is
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by opting out, I'll probably do more damage because I'm
not sure what my physical is going to be. I'm
not sure what my teammates physical is going to be.
So imagine if Michael had played in that Penn State
season last year, you know what I mean, like the
opting opt out year. Like, imagine if he had played
in that season. You know who knows, Like he probably
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doesn't have as good as season as he he would
have supposedly was supposed to have. And now he goes
from being a number one first round draft pick, top ten,
top fifteen draft pick too. Maybe he slides, you know,
you don't know. But now all of these different elements
are in play that you have to entertain that you
really never really had to think about before. And and
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I just think that it takes away the innocence of amateurism,
you know, because all of these decisions that are being made,
as Brady said earlier, and you've made mention of it,
to Jonas. It just takes away the opportunity and the
ability for these young men. We teach these young athletes
to find ways two problem solved, and they all have
the problem solve this as well. That will that will
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apply in life, but as it applies to certain things,
there's some things that they just shouldn't have to worry
about at this stage of where they are in their lives.
And it's just sad that they are facing uncertainties that
they have no control over, and the powers that be
determined and dictate what what it is and what it's
going to be and what it's not. Kind of said,
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and they're the ones assuming the risk. Yeah, everyone's telling
them how how It's just yeah, the whole thing's the
whole thing's bizarre. And I just I feel bad for him.
A lot of a lot of guys missing out on
an opportunity. Um, you know, it blows. Now. Are they
still gonna get the swag bags? Are they still gonna
get to Okay? Good, they don't give that back. There's
no gift backs that I mean, they probably should, um,
(29:30):
but they'll they'll keep it for sure. I would why
not screw them? Slinging online make a little bit of coin.
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to happen in Denver with the Broncos. Obviously the quarterback
situation there. Teddy Bridgewater is out with a concussion. Uh,
Drew lock is in. But it feels like, you know,
maybe not going where they want to go with either
of those guys at quarterback there. Vic Fangio, the head coach.
There's been some discussion about whether or not he'll be retained.
(32:12):
Uh and Vic Fangio spoke with the media yesterday about
his job status. Who ever, worry about your job status?
I don't, And uh, I know you think that's a
standard answer, but for a lot of reasons, I do
not worry about it. And those reasons are personal to me.
But do I acknowledge that it's certainly out there and
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could happen. Absolutely, But do I worry about it. I
absolutely do not worry about it for many, many reasons.
So there he is the Broncos head coach, unconcerned about
his his coaching status as they move forward. There, Brady Quinn,
you're your former team, the Denver Broncos. Try to say this,
I understand the lack of success since Vic Fangio has
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been there as far as wins and losses, and I'm
not trying to play horseshoes with everyone and say, like
close counts in the NFL, it doesn't. But I would
say this, if they fixed the offense, this team is
a good football team, like they're a playoff team, and
they should have never gotten rid of risk Scangarrillo, I
think that was one of their first mistakes. Pat Sherber
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has been awful. I mean he's been awful. He's running
an old school West Coast offense that worked back when
dudes were playing cover three, sitting eight to ten yards
off the ball, not rerouting, not having any sort of variations,
where the forty Diners and Bill Walsh absolutely molly wapped
everyone with the West Coast that that's it feels like
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that's the system he's running, like the game has changed
and for whatever reason, he doesn't want to adapt to it. Now.
I understand. It's tough when you know Teddy Bridgewater is
in there, then you know now he's not. You got
you lock different quarterback. I get to all of that.
You know that you missed some pieces too on offense
when it was last year this year, like I understand that.
But it is like an old fashion, historic offense that
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just doesn't work in today's NFL. I mean, for the
love of God, open it up, throw it down field,
run some more RPOs, do some stuff that we're seeing
actually works in the NFL. I don't care if you
have to, like in preparation for your next game, watch
everyone else's offense butt yours. But like, it's so frustrating
and watch a team that has as talented of a roster,
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especially at the skill position, by the way as they
do and underachieve. And that doesn't doesn't have anything to
do with Vic Fangio, because, in my opinion, the defense
it does its job enough or more often than not
to win football games. It's the offense that doesn't. And
the one common anom denominator is the play calling. It
is atrocious and I have no idea how that doesn't
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get put on the chopping block first. As opposed to
Vic Fangio, Who's you know, a defensive minded guy who
they've drafted well, they've developed well, they've they've defensively kept
their their team in games. It's just offensively and whether
or not you want to say it's the quarterback, Okay,
go find another quarterback, but I don't care who's playing that.
This West Coast offense that he's ronning is not gonna work.
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They gotta find a different play caller or Pat Sherps
gonna make some big top adjustments. The interesting thing about
it is is Peyton Manning is really the only catalyst
to a quarterback equating to success in recent years, for
the Denver Broncos. And I mean the Jay had success
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before that. I mean that thing just went sideways when
him and Josh McDaniels didn't get along. I just think
it was a I mean, how much success was it,
you know what? I mean, it was earlier as Craig
get that and and listen, I think Jake the Snake
was was pretty dope. I mean I was gonna say
he would be the next one. Yeah, I mean I
thought that there were some guys that did pretty good,
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but not to the level of Peyton Manning and and
and the only point I'm I'm the reason why I'm
pointing it out is play callers or not. If you
don't have that franchise guy that can be transformative to
your your organization in that manner, or he's not being
used in that manner, then it doesn't matter. And I
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think that that's the biggest that's kind of like the
biggest concern for for Lway and the rest of these
guys is where are you going to go in terms
of how you handle your quarterbacks situation? Because again we
mentioned the defense is pretty competitive. On offense, you have
some pieces in place, you know, you gotta running back.
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You you gotta backfield. You you got some pieces in play,
but do you have like do you have your quarterback?
And I would say no, I don't think they have
their quarterback. Maybe maybe you feel differently bright, maybe you
guys feel different. I don't feel they have that. And
and until you have that in this new this new NFL,
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name me a quarterback that doesn't have a name of
a team that doesn't have a dope as quarterback, that's
that's in the mix, or at least a guy they
think is going to be the future at the position.
And I am one team that has a quarterback that
isn't a dope as quarterback, and their team is in
the mix right now, they're not. And I also wonder
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Teddy Bridgewater felt like a shoot, we we didn't get
Aaron Rodgers, all right, so let's we gotta start making
some moves and uh and let's all right, so we'll
go out, we'll make a move and we'll bring in
Teddy Bridgewater. And it's like, all right, that that was
nice and all, but still you're lacking at the position,
especially in that division by far and away the worst
quarterback in that divisions and Fangio waited twenty years, and
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this is why I hope he gets an opportunity with
a legit quarterback and whatever that way that comes, draft trade, whatever.
That guy waited twenty years to get an opportunity to
get a sniff, to even interview for a job. You
find he gets his gig. That side of the ball
is solid, but the quarterback and the offense, and it's
just been a struggle. And and it's you know how
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many people from jobs. We've got many close games they've lost.
It's not even like the fact they've lost games. Look
at the manner in which they've lost games. It's been
kicking issues. It's been like last second things. I mean,
look throughout his tenure. Seriously, he's lost more close games
than anyone. You know what this is. LaVar's got this
Italian arrogance now because his chicken parm was off the chain.
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Uh well that was that was a close call, pretty
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certain that almost got over the air. But we're going
to take you all the way up until night am
Easter tix o'clock Pacific right here, off or all of
us off. If we if they hurt, like what, you go,
we go, one one person together, you go, we go.
That's how this works. I'm gonna be saying, backdraft, I
(01:27):
really hate to see this end this way for y'all
that sorry, sorry that this ended this way. Sorry, just
just being honest right there. You know, I'd be watching
y'all walk out, like, man, you know, let's go to
a break. Um, make sure Jonas and Berto and we
get out to their car safely. Do you think they
(01:48):
would have security escort us all? Absolutely not. For I
think they'd be worried about Roberto, especially some of the stories,
some of the stories he's told on the air about
his time at Dodger Stadium and his heavy drinking day.
Is like, yeah, let's go ahead, Uh, you know, get
the full security in here to get him out of
the Have you ever had a serious like altercation at
one of the games where you were being a fan
(02:10):
and you had to defend yourself many times? Many times?
Give me one, give me one good one that doesn't
incriminate you. Uh yeah, I can go all right. I
think kicked out of Doctor's Stadium one time. I was
in stating the pavilion, like, I kicked out and then
up ended up on ended up in field level. So
(02:32):
that was an upgrade. So you got kicked out, but
you ended up on the field level, Yeah, because that's
all the security was back back then. Holding on a second,
how the hell did you get from the like that's
a completely different part of the stadium, Like it almost
is even part of the stadium you migrated. Is that
(02:52):
is that's unbelievable. Back in the day, if you smoke cigarettes,
it were like like Mark, you're taken in the back
and my my buddy like figure all the guy's signature
was so he like just copied it and we didn't. Yeah,
we're just smoking cigarettes here. By the way, the smoking
is actually had dodged. Your stadium was literally like a
four by eight, boss. Everybody just humbled around before COVID
(03:14):
and just had heaters of their mouths. Like even it
was just so weird, man. Yeah, but there's nothing sexy
about cigarettes. Man, never had one. You never cigarette, Brady,
one of us man, Like, we didn't think there were
many of those left. We haven't either. Man. I'll still
never forget when I remember I was out in Scottsdale.
(03:36):
I think we're at a bar club whenever I was
with my buddy and I couldn't find him looking around,
you know, bar's closing, and I walked outside he is
smoking a cigarette like a champ. I mean, it was
one of those things where you looked at him, You're like,
I mean ever since he moved to my hometown. We
were like in separable best man at a wedding, all
that he's smoking this cig and I'm like, I've never
(03:57):
known that you smoked ever, like you've never We told
each other everything, man, like we both know like where
the bodies are buried. And I was like, it looks
like you've been doing this your whole day of life.
And he just kind of looked at me and nodded
to give you a wig. I was just talking to
some shape. He pulled the cigarette off of it. I'm like,
what the hell is this man? But yeah, I just
(04:19):
I've never wanted to ever try maybe not my not
my things. Yeah. Sorry, not trying to judge who smoked,
but you should stop. Yeah, And I'm not judging you,
but you should stop. Yeah. Yeah, But I mean, if
you're gonna do it, it's isn't cool to put it
out on the bottom of your shoe. It's like a
better lucky I would think lighting your your match on
(04:42):
your pants, like Clint Eastwood used to do this full
of dollars, a little hide and go seek on that
all Right, here we go. That's a movie that couldn't
(05:05):
be made today. All right, it is two prols of
a cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports Radio, Slavarrington. It's
Brady Quince, Jonas Knox, and we've got ourselves the coaching
carousel in the NFL that is heating up. So here's
how this works. This is a new rule this year
starting today to where teams can interview candidates on other
(05:27):
teams and and getting get an early start on this
whole thing. So they want to move on from a coach,
they can already have discussions with other assistant coaches around
the league. So the Jaguars are probably, you know, gonna
be reaching out to some some coaches and some assistants
are gonna be having discussions with these other guys. And
there's been some rumblings that there could be some other
(05:48):
coaches that are on the hot seat that teams may
also want to be having conversations with assistance to try
and fill the void. One of those we've heard this
before is Matt n Aggey and the Chicago Bears. The
report out this weekend was if things go bad enough
for them in Seattle, that the Bears could make a
change Monday, meaning yesterday, to try and get ahead start
(06:11):
on their coaching search well. As it turned out, the
Bears rallied one a game on the road at Seattle,
and then Matt Naggy was asked about some of the rumors.
Again not the first time this season he's had to
answer these questions, and he was asked by the media.
Here's with his response in the expectation on where he
stands with the organization throughout the rest of the year.
We stay on the same path as far as the
(06:32):
communication that that we have with George, Ted, Ryan and myself.
Nothing's changed there. And every year you're always aware of
the situation of your team and players, coaches, all that stuff.
And we're continuing to move forward this week and prepare
for the Giants and I and we all owe that
to each other for today and for this week with
the Giants and finishing out this week on a high
(06:53):
note trying to get a win and then doing again
in the final game of the season. So nothing has
changed as far as communication that way, Yeah, he's out
of there, it's over. It's by the way, do you
think he already knows Brady that he's out of there
or would he even still be in the building if
he was already given the clue that he was going
to be gone. I think he's got an idea. I
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honestly don't think many of these coaches are in the dark.
I know one NFL coach who literally, I think it
was the owner, he texted them after the game and
just says, Hey, why don't you just come down to
me in the coach office quick so we can get
this over with, Like he knew it was coming as
soon as their final game with a season hit, and
it was like that quick of a conversation, like oh yeah,
(07:40):
I mean, this stuff isn't a well kept secret. Uh No,
one keeps secrets anymore. It's just it's hard to in
this this damn age. I do think it's interesting though,
the idea that you're getting the jump on other teams
who want to make this decision, maybe by a couple
of weeks. Does that provide you that much of an
advance it? I mean, if if I'm at highly coveted
(08:04):
or potential head coaching candidate highly coveted one, am I
just like jumping at the first opportunity that I'm given?
Or am I gonna be more patient to say, let's
let's see what other opportunities come from this, Like I
don't know that in the NFL it really plays to
an advantage too well. Or to even start though, Like
(08:27):
what's the point of starting at this point? So you
got a couple of extra week can start. I mean, look,
I don't know. Again, I've never been through a head
coaching search. You know, I've never owned a team. I
couldn't tell you if that. I'm just I'm looking at
more saying if if I was a potential candidate, I
don't know that I'm rushing to go be the next
head coach of one of these thirty two NFL teams
(08:49):
without knowing what are their opportunities gonna be there at
the end of the season so they can make whatever
the decision they want. I mean, the reality is if
you're just gonna base it not firing them off of
this one win, okay, But I think you need to
look at the entire body of work, and that's a
tough thing. When you look at bad Naggie's entire body
of work. He's got a decent win loss record, Like
(09:10):
I know, it's got in the wrong direction. Since he's
got there, maybe us to play for that. A lot
of things I can play for that, right. That's funny. Listen.
It's interesting because the conundrum is waiting versus jumping on it,
knowing that you could be the next Urban Meyer, You
(09:33):
could be the next Nag. You could be you could
be one of these guys that doesn't get a a
real substantial amount of time to to make something happen,
to make it work. Or you could actually find yourself
in a position where it could work out. And I
think that the problem that coaches will face is that
(09:55):
you do have to move on it. If if a
team comes your way and says, look, we want hire you,
we want to try to get this done. Now, you
have to move on it. You can't. It's almost I
would I would say, what, what coaches out there that
would be available would actually have the mindset of saying,
let me, let me hold off and wait and let
(10:16):
me see how many other teams might want to offer
me a gig. Let's let's just see what the landscape
is gonna be. I think that when you get hit
with the opportunity and you get that call, you gotta
take it. And and it could be a jacked up situation.
It could be Jacksonville, but you're doing it for the money,
then you basically saying I need to pay that. I
don't even know if it's I mean, I'm certain the
(10:38):
money would play a part in it, but I think
it's more the opportunity as well. You know, It's it's like,
I'm going to take the opportunity because even if I
fail in this opportunity of being the head coach of
this this crappy team, I still have the opportunity to
try and make it better than what it was before.
Because ultimately coaches are looking at it from the standpoint
(10:58):
of everybody thinks that this is a crap organization or
crap team anyway. So if I go in here and
I can do halfway decent somewhat decent. For one, I
put hey coach on my resume as a as an
NFL coach too, I made some good money while I
was doing it. And three, we all know that somebody
is going to hire you on their staff somewhere else
as a defensive coordinator, as an offensive coordinator, as as
(11:22):
an analyst they're gonna have They're gonna hire you there.
You're going to get retreads all over to play. But
then you get a situation like Cam Cameron or Steve Wilkes,
where the situation is bad enough and those guys are
never ever going to get an opportunity again. Steve Wilkes,
right or wrong, fair knot, is never going to get
an opportunity to be a head coach again. But by
the way, I think it's an unrealistic scenario what you're saying,
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only because I'm not saying that as a candidate, you're
not going to take that interview. But the job's not
gonna be offered right now. It's not gonna be offered
the next two weeks. If you're starting your search now,
you're doing it to give yourself more time and so
you can bring it. I would imagine a list of
entity it's I mean, you still have to fulfill the
rooty rule anyway, and then you have to move on
after that to find the right coach. So I don't
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know that you're all of a sudden making a quick decision,
because what real jump does that give you. I get it.
You're talking about two weeks between now the end of
the season for other teams that are gonna be in
the same boat that you're competing with. So I just
I think a lot of these a lot of these
jack job openings. You know, if if you want to
do it two weeks early, great, But I don't know
that that really changes or makes a difference and who
(12:30):
you're gonna end up with the head coach, I really don't.
I don't think it makes a difference because they probably
already know who they head coach is going to be
before they even get to the interview, a list of
guys and oh no, they well, they're gonna have a
list because they may not get the guy that they want,
but they know who they want. They already know who
they want. Like Rooney rule all that that that's fine semantics.
(12:51):
They know who they want. So so the two weeks
doesn't matter outside of are we going to get the
guy that we want? I would say. The only the
only people that that it does truly matter to and
and it shouldn't matter to the organization because it matters
to them, is the fan base. And it's because you're
always constantly when you're I saw this firsthand. When your
(13:13):
team sucks as bad as it like some of these
teams sucked, like the Washington football team sucked, you had
to start selling hope even before the season was over
for the next season. To win that off season whatever
it may have been when you sucked that bad, you
gotta do things that appease your fan base, and whatever
(13:37):
that may be, you're going to do it, whether it's
going after a high profile uh, a free agent, whatever
it may be. As you get into to the end
of the season and going into that offseason, these organizations
have to figure out how are we going to continue
to sell hope and and otherwise, you know, kind of
(13:59):
interpreted hopeless situation. You know, it's weird about the whole
You already know who your guy is, which which I buy,
and I think there's teams out there that have identified
or this is the one that's going to make sense.
And also if you if your GM is still going
to stay in place like the Bears, it's Ryan Pace
could be in trouble as well too. That's been out there,
so it could be a wholesale change. But like great hair,
(14:21):
unbelievable hair. Um was it like contours that the old
the old hair spray? Think he uses that or is
it just think he uses maiden tail to wash it?
That's a good points. I mean, I'm just saying, and
then that horse shampoo. Yeah, that's that's a good point.
He's got that beautiful oily coat to it. He does,
definitely does. But like with with the Bear, like Jacksonville,
(14:44):
Trent Balky is gonna stay put and he's gonna have
a you know, communication with is definitely gotta you gotta
wonder how he's able to pull that off all the time.
You know, it's almost like the track record hack back unbelievable.
But with with like the coaching search, like Mike Tomlin,
(15:06):
he was a Roooney Rule interview. They weren't thinking about
hiring Mike Tomlin like he would. They brought him in
because they needed to, you know, dot the i's and
cross the t's. Sean McVeigh wants to think everything plays
out by the book, you know what I mean, Like
you could say, well, the Rooney Rule doesn't do what
it's supposed to do. I mean, there can be exceptions
to the rule, but for the most part, you gotta
(15:28):
believe when somebody, like if you don't think for two seconds.
The Steelers had an idea who they wanted their coach
to be. Who this is who we want, This is
the coach we want however it ended up what whoever
ended up getting the interviews or who got hired or whatever.
I mean, I don't know, but I'm just telling you
(15:50):
these these teams know who they want. So if somebody
comes in and they wow someone and they create an
opportunity for themselves, I'm not saying that that's not a
possibility to happen. I mean, things can happen, you know,
you get that opportunity to take advantage of it. But
I'm just saying it's it's highly unlikely at the guy
(16:10):
that the candidate that's available that they want, they already
know who the person is, They're already generally familiar with them,
or their reputation is so sky high they're so hot
right now that you want that. This is what I want.
This is who I want. Look at what Arizona did.
This is who I want. That's what the Rams did.
This is who I want. You know, it's what Green
(16:31):
Bay did. So I mean, but but generally speaking, you know,
there is the opportunity. That's why you do interviews. It's
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a few too many, it's time to go. Anything in
calling for ride home. Now it's the worst gonna happen.
You get pulled over, you lose your license, you told
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her your car, you kill someone, drive sober, or get
pulled over. Paid for by NITZA. So I don't know
if anybody's noticed, but a lot of bowl games aren't happening.
Uh there's you know, guys opting out. We got COVID issues,
We've got teams canceling, we got teams that are actually
in the actual city that the bowl game is being
played in, and uh, the other team decides they don't
(18:40):
want to play. The latest one is the Arizona Bowl,
the bar Stool Sports Bowl, which is now which is
now off because well, uh, Dave Portnoy uh, the founder
of our stools, said the game is canceled. I said, um,
you know, time means they got an insurance policy, like
(19:03):
they're not gonna lose anybody on that they bought. There
was smart and they bought insurance for it because that
that's how all this operates right now. Like if you
think about how last off, you know, last season one
was sports. If you have a bowl game and you
don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover your
losses in the event that COVID rears, it's it's it's
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you know, ugly head, then you're just bad at business.
But that's what that needs. Some of these other bull
games where you see like them trying to fill out
those teams, there's a lot more to that store. There's
a reason why they want to try to set something
up to put on some sort of game and some
sort of exhibition. UH. Central Michigan UM. And this was
after Boise State UM had some COVID issues UH and
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UH they decided to not want to partake in the
games of Central Michigan. UH. Instead of looking for an opponent,
they took the opportunity to go play in the Sun Bowl,
the Tony the Tiger sun Bowl. UH. And one of
the reports out from Ross Dellinger is that the Sun
Bowl is televised on CBS with a payout of four
point five five million. The Arizona bar Stool Board Bull
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is streamed on YouTube with a payout of three. So
there you go. Ye all comes down to money. I
mean it just the whole thing sucks because I understand
people are concerned about COVID and they feel the way
they feel about it, and that's a whole another conversation,
whether you know the severity of it. And I mean,
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now the c d C is saying, well, you know,
you don't need a quarantine for that long you gets
it's now half the time. It just feels like we
keep lowering the bar and we're starting to do it
in sports. But yeah, it's it. I feel bad for
the guys who aren't going to get an opportunity to
play ever again. This is it. And that's a majority
of these guys who aren't going to be NFL players.
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They're not gonna be playing in the CFL, the XFL.
This is it for them. They're gonna go pursue whatever
it is that they majored in in college and they're
gonna live a different life. This is it for them,
Like this is it. Last year was a disaster for
so many people involved. Some guys probably opted to come
back and want to be a part of it because
they said, I don't want to go out like that,
and yet here we are again, like bowl games are
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getting canceled when it feels like there's solutions that could
be made and solutions that could be figured out here,
and nobody's willing to do it. They're just like, yeah,
it's too easy to bail, so we're just gonna bail
and pull that pull that angle on this. It sucks.
I feel bad for those guys. I'm with you, though,
because because the reality is like we lose sight a
little bit of that, and I know it doesn't seem
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significant to everyone on the outside, but they also don't
understand all the hard work and effort and sweat, sweat
and sacrifices these guys have put in to want to
have one last chance to do it before they move
on to whatever that next step is. And so that
is the unfortunate reality of it. I mean, I I
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you know, I don't go back to my hope. It's
how that often. But what I do when I see
guys I played with kind of you kind of take
for granted how much the game meant to them, and
that was at a high school level, and talking about
like things that I can't even remember, either because of
concussions or just because I had other experiences after that, right, Like,
I don't know, but my whole point is just you
(22:15):
kind of forget and take for granted, like what it
means to those people. And I said this last year
in regards to any level of it. You know, at
some point you gotta let these young men decide for themselves.
Stop making decisions for them, no different than right now, Like,
make decisions for yourself, take the information you have, make
it for yourself, stubble letting other people tell you what
(22:38):
to do. It's just it's gotten to such an odd
point in our lives and in our time to where
we just let everyone dictate what we do, like a
bunch of sheep. I'm not trying to get like into
the political realm of things. I'm just saying, like with
all this stuff, like these bull games get canceled, they
immediately come out change the CDC guidelines. I don't know
if we had an impact on some of these teams,
(22:58):
are not, It seems like may have. I don't know,
but I do feel for a lot of these athletes
who will never get to play football game and we forget,
like what supercent one percent end up moving on to
play professionally from college. I mean, it's just it's crazy
to think how how this season went on without a
hitch and we get to this point we just slammed
(23:19):
the brakes on and everything starts to fall apart. That's
where it gets kind of interesting, is what you made
it through the season and now all of a sudden,
it's like, let's panic, Like let's hit the panic, but
with more time to get ready for a game that
you had all season long. Yeah, you know. I think
another thing that has to be taken into consideration is
COVID's impacting what's going on right now, but it's also
(23:40):
impacted the entirety of of college athletics altogether, because you're
talking about classes of kids that are going to get displaced,
that are done playing since last year. I mean, if
you think about it in those who are wondering what
I'm saying, when that COVID year hit last year the
way that it did, and it gave people the opportunity
(24:01):
to come back for an extra year, an extra season
at at the level at the amount of people that
that we're able to do it, it created a log
jam the transfer portal has cost it high school kids
scholarship opportunities. I've I've been directly hit by it with
some of my kids. They were weighing out where they
(24:25):
wanted to go, waiting last minute to make decisions, and
they lost out on getting a scholarship because they took
somebody from the portal. It's you know, it's just such terrible.
Well again, it's it's the idea of the games aren't
being played, they're being canceled. And to some it's like, oh,
it's a singular game, doesn't matter that much, just that
the other. But you're talking about guys that now aren't
(24:47):
getting that opportunity to play those last games that they
will ever play. They will be displaced for good. Like
you'll try to play in Canadian League, you'll try to
go to Arena League, you'll try to go to start
up leagues. You will be chasing your dream of playing
football competitively for a really long time after this ends.
(25:08):
And you didn't get that last that last I mean,
I'd like to call it a fix. You didn't get
that last fix. But then now you're talking about again
the ripple down effect of everything that has been impacted
by COVID. The ripple down effect is you have kids
that aren't even going to play college ball at all,
you know, or they may go to a smaller school
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than what they would have maybe originally been anticipating or
had the opportunity to go to, just because of everything
that has been disrupted in the flow of outgoing and
in going incoming talent as it applies to college ball.
So it's and I wanted just at the high school level,
like how many guys had an opportunity or players athletes
(25:53):
in general had an opportunity to go get a D
one scholarship and their senior season got wiped out, wiped out, ravaged,
and now they're looking at going the Juco route, they're
looking at going to a fortune if they're lucky enough
from there, go to a D two school. I just
I just rose to them, like every every level. I
(26:14):
just think people's trajectory got completely butchered because there was
a panic that was set in. I mean, look, we
saw the Pack twelve. I mean was a disaster the
way they handled it. If you think if it was
handled that way the bill, it was a disaster with
the big time mediad justin fields and guys you know, uh,
you know, marching to try and get a season. Just
(26:35):
the whole thing is bizarre, and it just feels like
there's an element of that that still is lasting. And
was sitting on my couch. Oh wait, was sitting on
my couch and they're getting the call like, man, like
we're gonna do it, Like we're gonna we're gonna play
a game next week, like they're sitting on my here
in California right like we gotta go like tomorrow. That's
(27:00):
how their season started. And people will sit there and say, oh,
Franklin and oh, these guys they don't know how to
play or data. They can't coach this that, and other
dudes were sitting on couches. They got called in to
come play, and they were sitting on like they didn't
even think they were gonna have a season. Now all
of a sudden, you have a season. You know, It's
it's interesting, man. And then you know, people get judged
(27:21):
like Mica sat out last year. Michael was on the
couch too, all right, so that they get judged for
sitting out. But then you sit there and you say, well,
I asked him, you know, what is your reason? And
he was like, listen, I can't put my best foot
forward under these circumstances. I can. I can do more
damage for all the people that will say I've done
damage to my reputation and to what my resume is
(27:42):
by opting out, I'll probably do more damage because I'm
not sure what my physical is going to be. I'm
not sure what my teammates physical is going to be.
So imagine if Michael had played in that Penn State
season last year, you know what I mean, like the
opting opt out year. Like, imagine if he had played
in that season. You know who knows, Like he probably
(28:03):
doesn't have as good as season as he he would
have supposedly was supposed to have. And now he goes
from being a number one first round draft pick, top ten,
top fifteen draft pick too. Maybe he slides, you know,
you don't know. But now all of these different elements
are in play that you have to entertain that you
really never really had to think about before. And and
(28:26):
I just think that it takes away the innocence of amateurism,
you know, because all of these decisions that are being made,
as Brady said earlier, and you've made mention of it,
to Jonas. It just takes away the opportunity and the
ability for these young men. We teach these young athletes
to find ways two problem solved, and they all have
the problem solve this as well. That will that will
(28:46):
apply in life, but as it applies to certain things,
there's some things that they just shouldn't have to worry
about at this stage of where they are in their lives.
And it's just sad that they are facing uncertainties that
they have no control over, and the powers that be
determined and dictate what what it is and what it's
going to be and what it's not. Kind of said,
(29:08):
and they're the ones assuming the risk. Yeah, everyone's telling
them how how It's just yeah, the whole thing's the
whole thing's bizarre. And I just I feel bad for him.
A lot of a lot of guys missing out on
an opportunity. Um, you know, it blows. Now. Are they
still gonna get the swag bags? Are they still gonna
get to Okay? Good, they don't give that back. There's
no gift backs that I mean, they probably should, um,
(29:30):
but they'll they'll keep it for sure. I would why
not screw them? Slinging online make a little bit of coin.
All right, It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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coaching rumors and uh, some stuff swirling about what's going
(31:51):
to happen in Denver with the Broncos. Obviously the quarterback
situation there. Teddy Bridgewater is out with a concussion. Uh,
Drew lock is in. But it feels like, you know,
maybe not going where they want to go with either
of those guys at quarterback there. Vic Fangio, the head coach.
There's been some discussion about whether or not he'll be retained.
(32:12):
Uh and Vic Fangio spoke with the media yesterday about
his job status. Who ever, worry about your job status?
I don't, And uh, I know you think that's a
standard answer, but for a lot of reasons, I do
not worry about it. And those reasons are personal to me.
But do I acknowledge that it's certainly out there and
(32:32):
could happen. Absolutely, But do I worry about it. I
absolutely do not worry about it for many, many reasons.
So there he is the Broncos head coach, unconcerned about
his his coaching status as they move forward. There, Brady Quinn,
you're your former team, the Denver Broncos. Try to say this,
I understand the lack of success since Vic Fangio has
(32:56):
been there as far as wins and losses, and I'm
not trying to play horseshoes with everyone and say, like
close counts in the NFL, it doesn't. But I would
say this, if they fixed the offense, this team is
a good football team, like they're a playoff team, and
they should have never gotten rid of risk Scangarrillo, I
think that was one of their first mistakes. Pat Sherber
(33:18):
has been awful. I mean he's been awful. He's running
an old school West Coast offense that worked back when
dudes were playing cover three, sitting eight to ten yards
off the ball, not rerouting, not having any sort of variations,
where the forty Diners and Bill Walsh absolutely molly wapped
everyone with the West Coast that that's it feels like
(33:40):
that's the system he's running, like the game has changed
and for whatever reason, he doesn't want to adapt to it. Now.
I understand. It's tough when you know Teddy Bridgewater is
in there, then you know now he's not. You got
you lock different quarterback. I get to all of that.
You know that you missed some pieces too on offense
when it was last year this year, like I understand that.
But it is like an old fashion, historic offense that
(34:05):
just doesn't work in today's NFL. I mean, for the
love of God, open it up, throw it down field,
run some more RPOs, do some stuff that we're seeing
actually works in the NFL. I don't care if you
have to, like in preparation for your next game, watch
everyone else's offense butt yours. But like, it's so frustrating
and watch a team that has as talented of a roster,
(34:29):
especially at the skill position, by the way as they
do and underachieve. And that doesn't doesn't have anything to
do with Vic Fangio, because, in my opinion, the defense
it does its job enough or more often than not
to win football games. It's the offense that doesn't. And
the one common anom denominator is the play calling. It
is atrocious and I have no idea how that doesn't
(34:51):
get put on the chopping block first. As opposed to
Vic Fangio, Who's you know, a defensive minded guy who
they've drafted well, they've developed well, they've they've defensively kept
their their team in games. It's just offensively and whether
or not you want to say it's the quarterback, Okay,
go find another quarterback, but I don't care who's playing that.
This West Coast offense that he's ronning is not gonna work.
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They gotta find a different play caller or Pat Sherps
gonna make some big top adjustments. The interesting thing about
it is is Peyton Manning is really the only catalyst
to a quarterback equating to success in recent years, for
the Denver Broncos. And I mean the Jay had success
(35:36):
before that. I mean that thing just went sideways when
him and Josh McDaniels didn't get along. I just think
it was a I mean, how much success was it,
you know what? I mean, it was earlier as Craig
get that and and listen, I think Jake the Snake
was was pretty dope. I mean I was gonna say
he would be the next one. Yeah, I mean I
thought that there were some guys that did pretty good,
(35:59):
but not to the level of Peyton Manning and and
and the only point I'm I'm the reason why I'm
pointing it out is play callers or not. If you
don't have that franchise guy that can be transformative to
your your organization in that manner, or he's not being
used in that manner, then it doesn't matter. And I
(36:21):
think that that's the biggest that's kind of like the
biggest concern for for Lway and the rest of these
guys is where are you going to go in terms
of how you handle your quarterbacks situation? Because again we
mentioned the defense is pretty competitive. On offense, you have
some pieces in place, you know, you gotta running back.
(36:42):
You you gotta backfield. You you got some pieces in play,
but do you have like do you have your quarterback?
And I would say no, I don't think they have
their quarterback. Maybe maybe you feel differently bright, maybe you
guys feel different. I don't feel they have that. And
and until you have that in this new this new NFL,
(37:02):
name me a quarterback that doesn't have a name of
a team that doesn't have a dope as quarterback, that's
that's in the mix, or at least a guy they
think is going to be the future at the position.
And I am one team that has a quarterback that
isn't a dope as quarterback, and their team is in
the mix right now, they're not. And I also wonder
(37:24):
Teddy Bridgewater felt like a shoot, we we didn't get
Aaron Rodgers, all right, so let's we gotta start making
some moves and uh and let's all right, so we'll
go out, we'll make a move and we'll bring in
Teddy Bridgewater. And it's like, all right, that that was
nice and all, but still you're lacking at the position,
especially in that division by far and away the worst
quarterback in that divisions and Fangio waited twenty years, and
(37:47):
this is why I hope he gets an opportunity with
a legit quarterback and whatever that way that comes, draft trade, whatever.
That guy waited twenty years to get an opportunity to
get a sniff, to even interview for a job. You
find he gets his gig. That side of the ball
is solid, but the quarterback and the offense, and it's
just been a struggle. And and it's you know how
(38:11):
many people from jobs. We've got many close games they've lost.
It's not even like the fact they've lost games. Look
at the manner in which they've lost games. It's been
kicking issues. It's been like last second things. I mean,
look throughout his tenure. Seriously, he's lost more close games
than anyone. You know what this is. LaVar's got this
Italian arrogance now because his chicken parm was off the chain.
(38:32):
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