February 3, 2022 • 44 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe with Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington, Brian Flores opens a class action suit vs the NFL, but the biggest bombshell might be the allegation about Stephen Ross wanting to throw games and Hue Jackson backing the claims about teams tanking. They investigate Jim Harbaugh’s decision to return to Michigan and the Vikings decision to hire Rams OC Kevin O'Connell after the Super Bowl. Also, Jimbo Fisher has misplaced outrage towards those calling out the reality of NIL basically being free agency in college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
show with Lamar Areas and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Radio. So a couple of topics that are
floating around the world of the endiment, which, by the way,
the super Bowl is coming up a little over a
week from now, if anybody cares, so that would be happening.
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But the the Brian Flores Saga's continuing on. We talked
about just sort of the implications and just you know,
the the racial impact that it's having and those conversations
that have gone on. Uh. The other portion of this
is the claims that Steven Ross, the owner of the Dolphins,
was offering him a hundred thousand dollars for losses back
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in two thousand nineteen. Reports say that there is proof
of this. Steven Ross has denied it, so we wait
to see how that all plays out. And then Hugh Jackson, Uh,
the former Brown's head coach. He alluded to being rewarded
for losses while in Cleveland, which if that's the case,
he's probably a multi multi, multi multi billionaire at this
point because they did a lot of losing. And Hugh
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Jackson was on ESPN yesterday talking about his claim specifically,
I wasn't offered a hundred thousand dollars for every game,
but there was a substantial amount of money made within
you know what happened in the situation every year at
the end of it, no coach takes a job to lose,
And I think people understand that you take jobs to win.
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Your contract says wins. You don't get paid for losing.
And then here I am, after being one and thirty one,
I'm kept the third year and given a contract extension
that nobody knew. So that should tell everybody something right there.
Why do you keep a coach who's one in thirty
one when your track record has been to get rid
of coaches? How does that support though racism? I it doesn't.
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That counter doesn't that actually be counter to? That is
if if if you were so bad, were you win
what one in thirty one, that then you've got an extension.
I just I don't. But I wonder is there a
confusion over being rewarded. I think there's a little bit
of confusion to everything that's out there. There's there's the
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discussion point being rewarded for for throwing games, losing games,
which guys, it's a bribe. Let's call it what it is.
That that's what the legal term is for it. And
so if he's saying he's being bribed and do signing
up for what he initially signed for, because that's where
he contradicts himself. Everyone knew when Paul de Podesta got
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hired by the Cleveland Browns the direction they were going
to go, and Hugh Jackson signed up for that. The
all those guys who were part of that signed up
for that. They were going to tank, accumulate draft picks,
and build up their salary cap space. That's what they did,
and it was so they then could you know, get
to a point where they were competitive like we saw
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a year ago and even this year to a degree.
The reality is Hugh Jackson signed up for that. He
couldn't have ended up, you know, being hired for that
job and listening to them have this plan and not go, well,
I don't want to be a part of this. I mean,
he signed up for it. So I don't really understand
how him saying that he got an extension after going
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through that but then subsequently got fired, how that proves anything.
It almost contradicts what he's trying to say, well, I
think he proves the point of confirmation. Yeah, because because
he took it. I mean, but again, to me, racism,
the idea of racism would have been to get rid
of him after one of those seasons, after maybe even
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the first season of of losing and and basically moving
on from him for for him doing what they wanted
him to do. That's that's the epitome of what you
would say is racism. But if you're saying that you
gave me three more years like and an extent and
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to lose these games, then that isn't racism. That's you
supported the plan. Yeah, had a plan, you executed the plan,
You were rewarded for executing the plan. So I don't again,
I think that him coming out and being supportive of
the claim that Flora has made, I don't think that
that Hugh was definitely or or making it a point
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about it being all about racism. I think he was
looking at it from the practices approach of of how
some of these things are done. Sometimes it's just more
about creating the validity of it versus trying to to
totally match all of it together. I would assume not
otherwise why I come out and even say it, because
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it is If you're trying to claim it's racism and
you're you're supportive of what Floras is saying, that is
a crazy contradiction. We we all acknowledge that that teams tank, right,
and I don't know if tanks the right word, but
we acknowledge a teams maybe aren't focused on the present,
but they're focused on the future, and I think that's
where then you have to sort of just decide what
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were they doing that was impacting the future. If if
Hugh Jackson made mention of this in his interview where
he said, you know, we had the youngest roster in
the NFL, I don't know how having the youngest roster
in the NFL means equates to wins. Well, maybe they
were trying to cut cap to your point, Brady, and
try and get rid of all the contracts, tear it
all down and build it back up. I don't know
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that like him being given a contract because they're showing
patients in him even though they're one and thirty one,
I don't know how that's considered a bribe. I don't know.
I don't know how you make that, because if that's
the case, I wonder how many other organizations around, not
just the NFL, the world of sports could say, oh, yeah, well,
apparently I was given a bribe because I was still
paid my full contract and then given an extra year
because we were a bad team. I don't I don't understand.
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It's the exact opposite of what happen with Brian Flores.
If the accusation or the allegation is that Brian Flores
wouldn't tank in his first year, they didn't get Joe Burrow,
they got a quarterback that you know, Chris Career still
wanted or Stephen Ross still wanted and he wasn't comfortable
with which which how he handled him meaning him and
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too ah, you know, his rookie year like this this
past season. It makes a lot of sense if you
connect the dots how he handled that whole situation. But
if he's claiming he got fired because of that, and
if he had to fall out with Steven Ross because
of not taking the bribe, not tanking, it's the exact
opposite then of what Hugh Jackson's claiming in his clip.
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Because he got the extension, now he eventually got fired
or got canned, but it seemed like there was a
lot of other infighting and things going on between him,
Greg Williams and and all the other parties. Wanted the job.
I mean, let's be clear about that. Craig wanted the job,
so and and and the situation with with Hugh, I mean,
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at some point you gotta start winning, I mean, and
and they they you know, they did not start to
win while he was there. Again, I think he was
just trying to confirm that well, from my perspective, it's
happened with me. But you can't take what you said
and turn that into this now confirms that racism was involved.
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And I think that that's the original point here. And
and so if you're using if you're using this the
admission of of what what took place from from coach Jackson,
then you're using it purely to prove the point that
it does happen. So if you're using that as your proof, uh,
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in your case. But again, now it still comes back
to for me, and I'll continue to say this, what
do you hope like them reporting that this is he's
a fighter, He's gonna fight it, Like he could have
just took the money and walked away this, that and
the other. What is your ultimate end? What is your
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ultimate goal in this? Because I'm still not clear, Like
if you get that settlement, if you get a pay
day off of this, was that what it was worth? Is?
That is? That? Is that ultimately what you wanted is
to be compensated for how you felt you were treated
and how things were handled, because that's your your suing
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for a reward. You're you're you want to be awarded
for what took place. So is that your ultimate end?
Because to me, I just feel like there are there
are blurred lines in terms of the approach to all
of this, and I would just like to understand where
it's coming from. That's that's all, Like what is your
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ultimate end from the the bribe as we can call it?
That Apparently Brian Flores says that he has proof of
that Stephen Ross was offering him a hundred thousand dollars
even if he was offering him a hundred thousand dollars
to lose games? All right? As players, I mean, you're
you're not gonna go out there and just half asked
to lose a bunch of games because there's no guarantees
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you're gonna get be back next season. There's no guarantees
as players, you're gonna get any of that hundred thousand dollars.
So even if he like, even if he does offer
him a hundred thousand dollars to lose games, how can
that impact whether or not a team wins or loses games.
I still think it's it's a valid point. However, it
doesn't matter when it comes down to whether or not
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a chord and arbiter or a judge or someone would
see it as bribery. It doesn't have to be successful
in order for it to be considered a broade. And
that's the problem with this. It still breaks a law
if there's intent there, and if there's documentation of that intent,
whether it's correspondence, text messages as I believe you heard,
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or an eye witness account that will speak on the record,
then it doesn't matter. As as long as they have
evidence to prove this. You then look at being a
bribery charge, which becomes a bigger issue. So I understand
what you're saying, because that was my first thought was
what was a player? I don't give a crap if
my coach is, you know, telling me to take I
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can't afford to do that because the reality is, if
you're a bad football team, not only is he not
gonna have a job next year, you might not even
so you've got to play well enough. But the truth
is it doesn't matter when it comes to the legalities
of what this bribe would essentially mean for Steven Ross
or potentially Jimmy has them. Even though again, none of
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what Hugh Jackson saying really makes sense in regards to help. Yeah,
it almost contradicts what happened with Floors and his experience
as compared to Hughes. Yeah. I mean, because he's trying
to make it seem like it was racism that played
a part and why he was being told to tak
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I mean, if I'm trying to interpret it the way
that he's trying, it's trying to be presented, right, is
would that be would that be safe to assume that
you're trying to you're trying to make it appear that racism,
like him being a black coach, is why they wanted
to take games, right Well, I mean, yeah, I mean
that's that's that's what it is. And then and then
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if we go down that road, Gus Bradley was kept
around in Jacksonville for a long time and they were awful,
and they were bad and bad and bad, and he
kept coming back and kept coming back, and finally Jacksonville
decided all right. Similar with Hugh Jackson. At some point
we got a lot of top draft picks here, we
got to start winning games, and then he was out
the door. So yeah, I I don't think if anything,
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Hugh Jackson sort of made a little bit more confusing,
and you confirm what what Floras is saying to be true,
but you're basically going you're contradicting or or going against
the fact that, all right, well, they didn't get rid
of me. In fact, they rewarded me with an extension.
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Steve Wilkson Arizona is an interesting one because he was
a year and it wasn't an ideal situation, and he
would you know, Josh Rosen was a rookie quarterback and
they gave him a year and while and and fired
him and then brought in Cliff Kingsbury and drafted Kyler Murray.
So that there were any coach out there right now
that could claim they felt like there was racism involved
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with how they were treated and handled into situation, it
would be KULLI like to me, he would be the
one that you would say, I would like to know
what he has to say because you were put in
the worst scenario that a first time hey coach could
be put in, and that's an organization with that and
it's back. You tried your darndest to try to figure
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this thing out with with what they gave you, and
and you were rewarded, rewarded with being fired. That could
be to me, I would be interested in what his
experience was. But with the Flora's situation again, because it's
the racial card, people are gonna listen and it's going
to be entertained and it's going to be vetted out.
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I'm interested to see how far it goes and what
the ultimate end is because it's just not clear. It's
not clear. It's kind of all over the place, if
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you here on fs ARE. Coming up in UH, we'll
call it less than ten minutes from now. We're going
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the world of NFL and college football. It's a very
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expert here on the air. So that'll be coming up
ten minutes from now on fs ARE. So we talked
about the the Jim Harbaugh saga earlier in the show,
just sort of the whatever the hell is happening where
Jim Harbaugh was reportedly and there we were sports out
there at base out of I think it was the
Wolverine dot com or ann Arbor dot net or one
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of those UH fan sites out there where Jim Harbaugh
was going to Minnesota. Uh he was. It's basically a
foregone conclusion he was going to sign with the Vikings
and be their new head coach. As it turns out
that was not the case. Other reports came out and
said there was a maybe some confusion about whether or
not Harbaugh was thinking he already had the job. Minnesota
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apparently didn't offer him the job, and so he left
there and then told Michigan that he was going back there.
He was not taking the Minnesota Vikings job. So the
question is, wasn't the right move if the job was
offered to Jim Harbaugh? Did he make the right move
going back to Michigan or should he have taken the
Minnesota Vikings job? What what is the right move in
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your guy's mind for Jim Harbaugh? What would be the
smart move going I don't really know how you could
compare the two not knowing you know what's behind the
closed door. So I don't know what was being offered
or talked about in Minnesota. And that's why, Well, but
that's why going back to Michigan is is the right answer?
Is because we don't know all of the information as
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to why he chose to close that door. Yeah, but
you don't know if he's going to receive any additional
benefits or reassurances from Michigan. That's what I wonder, because
I haven't seen that anywhere that they bumped. But he chose,
but he chose to go back to Michigan. He didn't
take the job in Minnesota. Well, no, no, no, no no,
no, no no, no no, there's a theory that whatever happened
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yesterday afternoon, that maybe it was the Vikings who said, okay,
let's you know, kind of go our separate ways, and
Hardball got word out first that he wasn't going there,
so it wouldn't look like he got turned down since
it was so public he was meeting with them. So
I don't think you should go and say, well, he
chose Michigan, because I don't know that that's necessarily true.
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I think, you know, there was there was an opportunity
there and at some point it broke apart for whatever reason.
But the reality is, this is a day in a
now where you looked at the n i L and
the competition and recruiting, and look, we we know Ohio
State is going to put a bunch of resources and
assets into it. You know, they've been outward about it.
Some of their alumna have been outward about it. We
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haven't heard quite as much from Michigan. Now. They do
have a thing called Valiant where their their players can
go and make money for their n i L. You
know from that, but you know, it doesn't sound like
it compares as well as what Ohio State has or
even some of these sec schools. Whether jimbo Offisher wants
to admit it or not, the whole thing is just
weird how it all played out because people thought Minnesota
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was weird. Now, there was the relationship that he that
he had with Dopha Mensa, the GM in Minnesota from
his time in San Francisco, but it seemed like it
came out of nowhere. And the fact that Minnesota already
had somebody in line, and that report came out right
after the Harbor stuff. The fact that you know, Kevin
O'Connell is basically the guy that's reportedly going to get
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hired to the Rams Super Bowl, the Rams offensive coordinator,
leads me to believe that maybe Minnesota was like, uh,
we're not quite sure. We'll take the interview, will sit
with him, we'll talk with him, but it's just there's
something that doesn't add up through them. So you're saying
they might have already been feeling like they're going to
hire someone else before they did the interview with like like,
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I want to make sure you're clear on this, Yeah,
if you and Brady wanted to weigh in on that.
So what you're saying is there's a possibility. There's a
strong possibility that they may already have a coach that
they really really want over over Horror Hardball. That's that's
what you're just saying. Is that possible? Brady? Uh, Yeah,
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that's possible. So okay, all right, Well maybe we should
hit the races button. Maybe maybe they're being racist against
Hardball in this moment because they're I mean, it's a sham,
they're agin it's a sham of of an interview. If
they already have someone that they feel like they want
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to hire, can not we obviously we're still in the
Flora's topic in this discussion. One of the things I
didn't really understand about all this is is Patrick Graham,
who's the defensive courd in the the courdenitor with the
you know, New York Giants, who was also for the
Vikings job along with Raheem Morris as the other minority candidate.
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Um he had already satisfied the Routey rule for the
New York Giants, so he interviewed, if I'm not mistaken,
reportedly interviewed on the twenty six of January. So one
of the details of all this that I don't really
understand and I'm not sure anyone's talked about was if
if it was just Brian Flores going up to satisfy
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the Rouoney rule. And I believe his interview is on Thursday,
which would have been I think is a second interview. Sure,
but but I guess the point is is why would
you interview Patrick Graham or why you know, why would
you take the time to interview him a second time
unless there was legitimate interest. I know there's a text
message from Bill Belichick, but you know, that doesn't necessarily
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mean that they told Bill Brian Dable was for sure
getting the job. He just might have been the one
that they talked to about and vetted about when they
were going through their research of the candidates. I mean,
maybe they didn't need to go to Bill Belichick to
vet Brian Flores. Maybe they felt like they had enough
on him or whatever the case may have been. Like
that's one of the things I don't really understand is,
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you know, people were kind of acting like, what it
was only Brian Flores as a minority candidate for the
Giant's job. That's that's not the truth. That's not the case.
And also from a sham interview standpoint, if they already
knew they were hiring Brian day Ball, then shouldn't Dan
Quinn feel like he got shammed because he also I
could care less about that. You said that yesterday. The
other thing is that Brian Flores and you knew that,
and you thought that was it was a sham? Why
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would you go? That's the thing to me, if you're
a man of principal, you're saying you're a man a principle,
why why even go take the interview if you feel
like it's a sham or you feel you know, humiliated
and in all the other terms that were you. My
whole thing is again, the reason why I just pointed
that out to to you know, to you Jonas and
to you Brady, is I just found that to be interesting.
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If you're listening to what you're saying, you go take
the interview, because it's not over until it's over. It's
not done until it's done. I think we just experience
that with Harb it's not over until so is the
Houston job in the New Orleans job? Who I think
Brian Flores is up for both? Is that still in
the mixing? You can't I can't assume there's no way
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you could assume that those jobs would still be in
the mix. There's no way, Like what now he's going
to get announced as the new head coach of the
Houston Texans while suing the National Football League over discrimination
and racism. Uh In terms of the hiring process, I
I can't see how that would work out. But again,
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the idea of taking an interview and being a part
of the interviewing process and trying to get a gig,
it comes down to this. You keep putting your best
foot forward until they tell you have the job or
somebody else got it. That's how it works in the workforce.
You put your best foot forward. You guys did how
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many years of Radio five on the weekends until you
got to this point. I did weekends. I didn't have
a weekday show. I did weekends. I put my hat
in into the conversation of I love to work with
with guys like Brady and Jonas. I I put my
hat and then I'm gonna put my best foot forward.
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If they told me now we're gonna go with Brady
and and Jonas, that's we feel good about that. That
doesn't mean that I gotta jump off into all of
these wild tangents. They might say, you know what, they've
put five years in together. They put the time, and
we trust them. They have a great chemistry. I mean,
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there were a lot of questions coming into doing our show,
like what's their chemistry gonna be? Like? How is the
show going to sound? What does this look like? Right?
The bottom line is we got an opportunity to do it,
and we're doing it now. We we were. We have
a morning show and we make make it work. If
if one of us doesn't get chosen for the job,
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it doesn't necessarily have to be anything else other than
the simple reality of they wanted somebody else. Like Like,
the bottom line is when when I met my chick
and I thought for two for for for well more
than two minutes, but I just didn't think that I
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was heard type of guy. Right, I shot my shot.
I couldn't believe it worked. Still to this day, don't
believe that it worked. But it did. And you know what,
I was chosen for the job. If she'd went in
a different direction, if her personal preferences did not fit
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or match what I represented or what I brought to
the table, all I can do is accept that that's
what the situation called for, and continue to to look
for opportunities where I can put my best foot forward
again least I checked. That's what you call the American way.
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That's you. You have an opportunity to take it and
do it somewhere else they may have done. Brian Floor
has a favor. There's a possibility them not choosing him
and wanting him. It's not about humiliating him, it's not
about making it racial, and in essence, it's about them
doing you a favor because maybe the situation they were
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bringing you in wasn't going to be the best situation
for you anyway. So focus in on where the best
situation for you is going to be at that moment
in time, that's now in your rear view, that's now
under the bridge. If they didn't want you, they didn't
want you, you're not gonna go Why why I'm I
go running around they didn't want me. There's a problem,
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like na Bro, it's not always, it's not always. It
doesn't always play out that way. It seems like the
Belichick text was really by and he made made mention
of it that it really was humiliating that Belichick thought
he was you know talking to Brian Davis. You can't
make a mistakes, Brian Flores, you can't make the mistakes. Look,
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we interviewed this true story. I was filling in for
Doug Gottlieb on a show and Isaiah Thomas was one
of the guests, and he came on the air and said, oh,
I thought I was gonna be talking to Doug Gottlieb,
And I said, yeah, we thought we were gonna be
talking to I was like, yeah, well we thought we
were gonna be talking to Joe Dumars. So it's like,
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I'm just like, it's something like it happened. Sometimes people
make mistakes, but I don't know that it's the most
insulting thing in the world that like, I mean, well,
he comes on the air and basically humiliates just I mean,
good point. I'd rather talk to govin Doug anyways. But
like the the idea that because he confused Brian's in
his phone and all of a sudden it goes in
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this direction like that felt like it really. I mean,
that's the thing about it. You don't have to be
if he made the mistake, Oh that's my bed, Like
you made the mistake, you know, what I mean, Like
it doesn't have to be any there's so like when
it really matters, it really matters, Like when it's really
prejudice and it's racism and it it happens, and it's
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it's happening in a very very malicious way. It's happening,
and it should be addressed. But that isn't always what
it is. I'm sorry, Like I'm always shooting from the
hit that isn't always what it is. And and sometimes
to get the impact that you're seeking, if you're one
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that that really really lives for social change and and
and provement and and getting ahead, you gotta understand that
if you're looking at every single thing and calling it
this and calling it that, you take away the impact
of when it really is that. So I'm not saying
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that this isn't what it really is for Flora's because
I don't know his scenario from from what I know,
But if I'm looking at it from the standpoint of
in the total whole of everything that that takes place
in terms of workplace environment and how it's treated and
how you hire and how you go about race relations
and different things like that, we have to be and
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when I say we we as as as minorities, we
have to be aware of of when and where and
how this all works as well. We have to educate
ourselves on how the game works as well. You gotta
play the game to win. So if you're gonna put
something out there like that just makes him, maybe it's
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gonna come out. Just maybe, like you said earlier, Brady,
he's taking this to court, he must have some type
of information. Maybe that information is going to come out.
I just hope for the sake of how this represents
minority communities that it is what he's saying it is,
because that makes it that much more difficult, not just
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on him, it makes it that much more difficult on
other minorities. So that's that's the idea of it. I
do think it's gonna be interesting though, to see, you
know what other coaches would join in on the class
action lawsuit, and and partly because again Hugh Jacksons and
very outspoken about his time in Cleveland, and I just
wonder if they could be like, no, man, you're actually
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a kind of contradicting what we're trying to say here,
Like you know, what, what's what? What What occurred there? What
happened actually is contradicting our point, Like Brian ended up
getting fired because you wouldn't comply with that strategy, you know,
to to tank or take that bride. You actually took
it admittedly and were rewarded reward. I do wonder if
they're like, no, man, like that's that's gonna miss this
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whole thing up, Like, we appreciate you being outspoken about it,
but we're gonna have to go in different directions out
there now. You know. It's so funny about the Brian
Florest thing too, when people go, my god, he was
the best coach that Dolphins had had and blah, like dude,
he had literally the exact almost virtually the exact same
record as Adam Gaze, except Gaye went to the playoffs,
like so let's like, let's not pretend like all of
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a sudden, you know, he was Vince Lombardi and he
got canned. Like come on, I mean, it wasn't like
they were this great football team. I mean they were
one in seven they started the year. It's like, you know,
there's there's a lot more to it. I mean, look,
there is something that we said for the way they
didn't fight back but yeah, it's funny you say that
he finished up Adam Gates's record. There was and Joe
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Philban was right around the same record before those guys.
So it's not like this is just all of a
sudden this is the first time they've ever fired to
coach like this. No, we've like this has happened, like
this is what Steven Ross has done, show Phil It's
just like the same thing. Like so, but you know, hey, whatever,
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it's it's just very very disturbing. Is it more awkward
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was up there, two guys trying to stand on a
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Name image likeness has been a topic of conversation for
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several months. Everybody is spend spend, spend uh and then
now we we are hearing some some conversations about coaches
and teams and programs that have a little bit of
an advantage over others, and so this sort of sparked
because Nick Saban and some others have made some comments about,
you know, maybe we need to do something here. You
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know this it feels like we're kind of it's kind
of getting out of control and all this, And and
then you had Lane kiffen Uh, the old misshead coach,
who had this to say from earlier in the weeks.
So we're gonna listen to Lane Kiffin and then we're
gonna hear somebody else in the SEC who had some
comments on it. But verse, let's here from Lane Kiffin.
We don't have the same funding resources as some of
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these schools do for these in IL deals, and so
it's basically dealing with different salary caps. We now have
a sport that has completely different salary caps. And some
of these schools are you know whatever, five ten times
more than everybody else and what they can pay the players.
So I know nobody uses those phrases, but that is
what it is. In free agency and NFL players usually
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go to the most money every once in a while,
they they don't because already have a bunch of money. Well,
these kids are seventeen eighteen years old. They're gonna go
to where they're paid the most. I'm not complaining, WHI
just is what it is. It's a whenever their scenes created.
There's a lot of times problems people didn't think about,
you know, and so you just legalized paying players what
people used to cheat. So that was a Lane Kiffin
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from that's always is of course, I mean, well, you know, yeah,
it's we could say it's always how it how it's been.
The reality is there were some schools who did it
above board. Uh. Lane's comments they hit home for me
for a number of reasons. He was you know, he
was a head coach in the NFL. He understands the
constraints and what that means with a salary cap, you know,
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given how much cap space you have as a team,
how you yoke about orchestrating that cap, and then how
it applies. He was a part of a USC team
that got popped for doing a lot of other things
underneath the table, and so he saw the advantages of
it then when they had that sort of capital. Maybe
now against what he's dealing with in the SEC, you
where he's probably not even a top four school in
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the SEC, and maybe five six. I mean when you
look at the resources that will miss as in comparison
to Texas A and M, Alabama, Georgia, l s U Florida,
I mean you start naming off teams. A lot of
these schools have let's just put it this way. You know,
a higher higher salary, salary cap more resources to deal with.
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So look at the reality is everything he's saying is
is legit and now you have ways of paying players
for the name of his likeness above board. But there
it does give you the sense that the schools who
tend to have the most money, and that sways to
the SEC. Which if I was to tell you the
top three highest recruiting classes ranked for this twenty two class,
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we're all SEC teams. Would you be surprised by that? No?
And um. And one of the guys who took a
great offense to this was Texas A and M head
coach at Jimbo Fisher UM now Jimbo Sure, longtime Florida
state coach. He never had a number one recruiting classes
according to rivals, all of a sudden, Texas A and M,
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who never had a number one recruiting class that going
back to years they've got they've got a rocket ship
for a recruiting class, and it's the first ever we've
never seen in one class get seven five star players.
It is the highest recruiting ranking we've ever seen, according
to seven Sports, which has which really is the standard,
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because they have a composite meaning they take rivals, they'll
take ESPN, they take everyone's rankings in their own, and
they create a composite ranking, which is the standard. Now
when you're looking at this, it is unlike anything that
we've ever seen in recruiting before. And so Jimbo Fisher,
you know, heard some of the conversations and um felt
like he needed to defend himself. So here was the
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Texas A and M head coach. There is no thirty
million dollar fund, there is no five means, there's no ten.
This is garbage and it does. It pisses me off.
And here it comes from a site called Probible by
a guy named Slice Bread. Then everybody runs with it,
so it's written on the internet's gospel. How irresponsible is that?
And then to have coaches and our leg and across
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this leg is say it clown acts al right, irresponsible
as hell. Multiple coaches in our league, and the guy's
griping about n I L, graping about transfer report, using
it the most, and bragging about it the most. That's
the ironic part. You want character, I'll trust, I'll take
it with any of y'all. It's a joke that does
piss me off. It's funny when Nick Saban said his
quarterback got a eightouand all of deal. It was wonderful.
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Now it ain't wonderful no more, huh. But ours that
we ain't got that ours on record? What comes up?
We ain't going on big deals, ain't none on our
places we know of. That's funny when you do it's
it's an absolute joke that people put the hard work
in and do it. It's irresponsible, but it's funny when
they get it's all okay. Ball games are changing, man,
and ain't because of N I L. And what goes on.
It's pretty irresponsible with all of them for clowns. The
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hypocrisy is a joke. It's an absolute joke, and it's
insulting to our have a hard we work, how we
do things. It's insulting the Texas A and M because
there ain't a better place to go to school and
play ball. We don't like it. We're coming on, get
used to it. We ain't going nowhere. Yeah. The president, Yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. What the hell is office
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slice bread or not pissed off about? I don't get it,
and I think he's I think he's upset because he
feels like they've worked really hard in recruiting to become
the number one class. It's the first time he's been
able to accomplish this, and he doesn't want it to
seem like the players the seven five star with nineteen
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four stars whatever it was, are all coming to Texas
A and M or college station because the money. He
wants it to be about the twelfth Man. He wants
to be about the tradition and everything else they have
to provide there, and his coaching staff. He doesn't want
to admit that maybe it's just about the money, do
you which, No, I don't buy it. You'll understand that
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in the state of Texas, you know, you can look
at how they go about preparing these things. But the
truth is slice Bread, Home Slice, whatever the hell he
said the guy's name was, He's not wrong. It's a
gigantic fund that they've literally been able to diagnose how
they go about doing it. It's a fund where a
bunch of donors put in money they assigned, then a
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point donor to each player that is going to receive
compensation for their name, image and likeness, and then that
donor helps surround them with other boosters and donors to
help facilitate that. I mean, the reality is it's above board.
You don't have to be ashamed of it. You know,
they've got their twelfth Man Foundation. They've started this amplified
program at tech stand M University to help them educate
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these kids on taxes and what n I L is,
and there their social platforms and how they could benefit
off that. It's all above board. You don't have to
be upset about it. Let's not lie about it either.
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen Jimbo Fisher
lied about things in the past back he was a
Florida State Let me find out work comes from slights fread.
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You're not going to get that many top top recruits
without having some really really good bait on the end
of your Remember when Old Miss landed like three or
four lacron treadmall a treadmall and um, and who was
the guy that jumped out of a window because he
was so high? Who was the guy at rob Yeah? Literally,
guy was like smoking weed. Literally it was since then
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whatever he was doing, he was he thought he was
multis now Yeah. Well yeah, there's a lot of guys
who had issues with it. But he got so high
that he went from like shampoo and God's hair to
jumping out of a window. I mean he was just
on another one and he was on top of God's
hair and that was It's a true story. I never
jumped out of a window though, But shampoo do you
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use on God's head? Only the finest? I was gonna
say plus, but again, I'm not here to give out
free sponsorship on the air point being I bet you
his head of hair is perfect. Yeah, no blow dryer needed.
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Ole Miss did the same thing, but it was illegal.
A lot of schools have done the same thing. It's
not ill. Did you not see the recruiting class Tennessee
put together last year? Did you like certain schools start
to get hot on the recruiting trail and then and
then a year, two years, three years, something happened, right,
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somebody gets elevated, somebody gets fired, somebody doesn't win, somebody
a player doesn't play as much as somebody it's a
boosters son. Something happens that always blows it up. Are
we not paying attention to my homeboy just sign yesterday?
Are we paying attention right? And and we could go
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down that rabbit hole of of of how that went
about how that happened. But the bottom line is is
once somebody is unhappy with the oh wait what their
treatment was while they were there, then things start to happen.
Emails start to pop up, text messages start to pop up,
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ideas of how something went down. Or check this camera.
You'll see that this is during a dead period. Start
the things start to pop up that wouldn't have popped
up before. That's you want to know what the n
I L Is about to do. It's about to expose
the deep, dark ugliness of how some people operate to
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get done what they get done. There are plenty of
guys around the country that are called handlers and recruiters
that these schools use. They're on payroll, and they built
relationships in certain regions and they're able to are they've
always been around right, Yes, the agents have them, schools
have them. Then they deliver. They deliver. Their livelihood is
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determined by them delivering those top recruits. So this has
always been around the top bidder is going to win.
It's not illegal anymore, so why is he complaining? This
is like the guy who's he's complaining because he doesn't
feel like he has the resources, even with it now
being a legalized way of approaching things with the n
I A clear doesn't have as much the offer. It's
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Jimbo Fisher sounds like a guy who's a four who
lands a ten because he's got money and then gets
consulted when you say, well, you do you drive a Benz?
I mean you got money? Like the way do you
think she's with you? No, that's not true. You look
like you drive a Bens too, But your bens is
it's a two thousand six. Like, dude, you look like
a gargoyle. She's not gonna date you unless you had cash.
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Like he's got the cash. It's working for all the time.
Who'd be so upset about it? I don't understand. It's game.
Game was strong. I might not be pretty, but that's
a good point. I just I don't understand. I don't
understand why he's getting so upset about it. I mean,
take what it is, man, You've got an advantage. It's work,
and it worked this year. I mean, like revel in it.
What's the what's the problem. I don't understand. It's weird
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complaining Jimbo Fisher. I had said, whoever slice bread is
um living rent free and Jimbo Fisher's head, that's job serious.
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on Fox Radio. So a couple of topics that are
floating around the world of the endiment, which, by the way,
the super Bowl is coming up a little over a
week from now, if anybody cares, so that would be happening.
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But the the Brian Flores Saga's continuing on. We talked
about just sort of the implications and just you know,
the the racial impact that it's having and those conversations
that have gone on. Uh. The other portion of this
is the claims that Steven Ross, the owner of the Dolphins,
was offering him a hundred thousand dollars for losses back
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in two thousand nineteen. Reports say that there is proof
of this. Steven Ross has denied it, so we wait
to see how that all plays out. And then Hugh Jackson, Uh,
the former Brown's head coach. He alluded to being rewarded
for losses while in Cleveland, which if that's the case,
he's probably a multi multi, multi multi billionaire at this
point because they did a lot of losing. And Hugh
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Jackson was on ESPN yesterday talking about his claim specifically,
I wasn't offered a hundred thousand dollars for every game,
but there was a substantial amount of money made within
you know what happened in the situation every year at
the end of it, no coach takes a job to lose,
And I think people understand that you take jobs to win.
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Your contract says wins. You don't get paid for losing.
And then here I am, after being one and thirty one,
I'm kept the third year and given a contract extension
that nobody knew. So that should tell everybody something right there.
Why do you keep a coach who's one in thirty
one when your track record has been to get rid
of coaches? How does that support though racism? I it doesn't.
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That counter doesn't that actually be counter to? That is
if if if you were so bad, were you win
what one in thirty one, that then you've got an extension.
I just I don't. But I wonder is there a
confusion over being rewarded. I think there's a little bit
of confusion to everything that's out there. There's there's the
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discussion point being rewarded for for throwing games, losing games,
which guys, it's a bribe. Let's call it what it is.
That that's what the legal term is for it. And
so if he's saying he's being bribed and do signing
up for what he initially signed for, because that's where
he contradicts himself. Everyone knew when Paul de Podesta got
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hired by the Cleveland Browns the direction they were going
to go, and Hugh Jackson signed up for that. The
all those guys who were part of that signed up
for that. They were going to tank, accumulate draft picks,
and build up their salary cap space. That's what they did,
and it was so they then could you know, get
to a point where they were competitive like we saw
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a year ago and even this year to a degree.
The reality is Hugh Jackson signed up for that. He
couldn't have ended up, you know, being hired for that
job and listening to them have this plan and not go, well,
I don't want to be a part of this. I mean,
he signed up for it. So I don't really understand
how him saying that he got an extension after going
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through that but then subsequently got fired, how that proves anything.
It almost contradicts what he's trying to say, well, I
think he proves the point of confirmation. Yeah, because because
he took it. I mean, but again, to me, racism,
the idea of racism would have been to get rid
of him after one of those seasons, after maybe even
(03:39):
the first season of of losing and and basically moving
on from him for for him doing what they wanted
him to do. That's that's the epitome of what you
would say is racism. But if you're saying that you
gave me three more years like and an extent and
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to lose these games, then that isn't racism. That's you
supported the plan. Yeah, had a plan, you executed the plan,
You were rewarded for executing the plan. So I don't again,
I think that him coming out and being supportive of
the claim that Flora has made, I don't think that
that Hugh was definitely or or making it a point
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about it being all about racism. I think he was
looking at it from the practices approach of of how
some of these things are done. Sometimes it's just more
about creating the validity of it versus trying to to
totally match all of it together. I would assume not
otherwise why I come out and even say it, because
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it is If you're trying to claim it's racism and
you're you're supportive of what Floras is saying, that is
a crazy contradiction. We we all acknowledge that that teams tank, right,
and I don't know if tanks the right word, but
we acknowledge a teams maybe aren't focused on the present,
but they're focused on the future, and I think that's
where then you have to sort of just decide what
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were they doing that was impacting the future. If if
Hugh Jackson made mention of this in his interview where
he said, you know, we had the youngest roster in
the NFL, I don't know how having the youngest roster
in the NFL means equates to wins. Well, maybe they
were trying to cut cap to your point, Brady, and
try and get rid of all the contracts, tear it
all down and build it back up. I don't know
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that like him being given a contract because they're showing
patients in him even though they're one and thirty one,
I don't know how that's considered a bribe. I don't know.
I don't know how you make that, because if that's
the case, I wonder how many other organizations around, not
just the NFL, the world of sports could say, oh, yeah, well,
apparently I was given a bribe because I was still
paid my full contract and then given an extra year
because we were a bad team. I don't I don't understand.
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It's the exact opposite of what happen with Brian Flores.
If the accusation or the allegation is that Brian Flores
wouldn't tank in his first year, they didn't get Joe Burrow,
they got a quarterback that you know, Chris Career still
wanted or Stephen Ross still wanted and he wasn't comfortable
with which which how he handled him meaning him and
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too ah, you know, his rookie year like this this
past season. It makes a lot of sense if you
connect the dots how he handled that whole situation. But
if he's claiming he got fired because of that, and
if he had to fall out with Steven Ross because
of not taking the bribe, not tanking, it's the exact
opposite then of what Hugh Jackson's claiming in his clip.
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Because he got the extension, now he eventually got fired
or got canned, but it seemed like there was a
lot of other infighting and things going on between him,
Greg Williams and and all the other parties. Wanted the job.
I mean, let's be clear about that. Craig wanted the job,
so and and and the situation with with Hugh, I mean,
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at some point you gotta start winning, I mean, and
and they they you know, they did not start to
win while he was there. Again, I think he was
just trying to confirm that well, from my perspective, it's
happened with me. But you can't take what you said
and turn that into this now confirms that racism was involved.
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And I think that that's the original point here. And
and so if you're using if you're using this the
admission of of what what took place from from coach Jackson,
then you're using it purely to prove the point that
it does happen. So if you're using that as your proof, uh,
(07:42):
in your case. But again, now it still comes back
to for me, and I'll continue to say this, what
do you hope like them reporting that this is he's
a fighter, He's gonna fight it, Like he could have
just took the money and walked away this, that and
the other. What is your ultimate end? What is your
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ultimate goal in this? Because I'm still not clear, Like
if you get that settlement, if you get a pay
day off of this, was that what it was worth? Is?
That is? That? Is that ultimately what you wanted is
to be compensated for how you felt you were treated
and how things were handled, because that's your your suing
(08:28):
for a reward. You're you're you want to be awarded
for what took place. So is that your ultimate end?
Because to me, I just feel like there are there
are blurred lines in terms of the approach to all
of this, and I would just like to understand where
it's coming from. That's that's all, Like what is your
(08:48):
ultimate end from the the bribe as we can call it?
That Apparently Brian Flores says that he has proof of
that Stephen Ross was offering him a hundred thousand dollars
even if he was offering him a hundred thousand dollars
to lose games? All right? As players, I mean, you're
you're not gonna go out there and just half asked
to lose a bunch of games because there's no guarantees
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you're gonna get be back next season. There's no guarantees
as players, you're gonna get any of that hundred thousand dollars.
So even if he like, even if he does offer
him a hundred thousand dollars to lose games, how can
that impact whether or not a team wins or loses games.
I still think it's it's a valid point. However, it
doesn't matter when it comes down to whether or not
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a chord and arbiter or a judge or someone would
see it as bribery. It doesn't have to be successful
in order for it to be considered a broade. And
that's the problem with this. It still breaks a law
if there's intent there, and if there's documentation of that intent,
whether it's correspondence, text messages as I believe you heard,
(09:50):
or an eye witness account that will speak on the record,
then it doesn't matter. As as long as they have
evidence to prove this. You then look at being a
bribery charge, which becomes a bigger issue. So I understand
what you're saying, because that was my first thought was
what was a player? I don't give a crap if
my coach is, you know, telling me to take I
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can't afford to do that because the reality is, if
you're a bad football team, not only is he not
gonna have a job next year, you might not even
so you've got to play well enough. But the truth
is it doesn't matter when it comes to the legalities
of what this bribe would essentially mean for Steven Ross
or potentially Jimmy has them. Even though again, none of
(10:32):
what Hugh Jackson saying really makes sense in regards to help. Yeah,
it almost contradicts what happened with Floors and his experience
as compared to Hughes. Yeah. I mean, because he's trying
to make it seem like it was racism that played
a part and why he was being told to tak
(10:53):
I mean, if I'm trying to interpret it the way
that he's trying, it's trying to be presented, right, is
would that be would that be safe to assume that
you're trying to you're trying to make it appear that racism,
like him being a black coach, is why they wanted
to take games, right Well, I mean, yeah, I mean
that's that's that's what it is. And then and then
(11:14):
if we go down that road, Gus Bradley was kept
around in Jacksonville for a long time and they were awful,
and they were bad and bad and bad, and he
kept coming back and kept coming back, and finally Jacksonville
decided all right. Similar with Hugh Jackson. At some point
we got a lot of top draft picks here, we
got to start winning games, and then he was out
the door. So yeah, I I don't think if anything,
(11:35):
Hugh Jackson sort of made a little bit more confusing,
and you confirm what what Floras is saying to be true,
but you're basically going you're contradicting or or going against
the fact that, all right, well, they didn't get rid
of me. In fact, they rewarded me with an extension.
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Steve Wilkson Arizona is an interesting one because he was
a year and it wasn't an ideal situation, and he
would you know, Josh Rosen was a rookie quarterback and
they gave him a year and while and and fired
him and then brought in Cliff Kingsbury and drafted Kyler Murray.
So that there were any coach out there right now
that could claim they felt like there was racism involved
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with how they were treated and handled into situation, it
would be KULLI like to me, he would be the
one that you would say, I would like to know
what he has to say because you were put in
the worst scenario that a first time hey coach could
be put in, and that's an organization with that and
it's back. You tried your darndest to try to figure
(12:42):
this thing out with with what they gave you, and
and you were rewarded, rewarded with being fired. That could
be to me, I would be interested in what his
experience was. But with the Flora's situation again, because it's
the racial card, people are gonna listen and it's going
to be entertained and it's going to be vetted out.
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I'm interested to see how far it goes and what
the ultimate end is because it's just not clear. It's
not clear. It's kind of all over the place, if
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ten minutes from now on fs ARE. So we talked
about the the Jim Harbaugh saga earlier in the show,
just sort of the whatever the hell is happening where
Jim Harbaugh was reportedly and there we were sports out
there at base out of I think it was the
Wolverine dot com or ann Arbor dot net or one
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of those UH fan sites out there where Jim Harbaugh
was going to Minnesota. Uh he was. It's basically a
foregone conclusion he was going to sign with the Vikings
and be their new head coach. As it turns out
that was not the case. Other reports came out and
said there was a maybe some confusion about whether or
not Harbaugh was thinking he already had the job. Minnesota
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apparently didn't offer him the job, and so he left
there and then told Michigan that he was going back there.
He was not taking the Minnesota Vikings job. So the
question is, wasn't the right move if the job was
offered to Jim Harbaugh? Did he make the right move
going back to Michigan or should he have taken the
Minnesota Vikings job? What what is the right move in
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your guy's mind for Jim Harbaugh? What would be the
smart move going I don't really know how you could
compare the two not knowing you know what's behind the
closed door. So I don't know what was being offered
or talked about in Minnesota. And that's why, Well, but
that's why going back to Michigan is is the right answer?
Is because we don't know all of the information as
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to why he chose to close that door. Yeah, but
you don't know if he's going to receive any additional
benefits or reassurances from Michigan. That's what I wonder, because
I haven't seen that anywhere that they bumped. But he chose,
but he chose to go back to Michigan. He didn't
take the job in Minnesota. Well, no, no, no, no no,
no, no no, no no, there's a theory that whatever happened
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yesterday afternoon, that maybe it was the Vikings who said, okay,
let's you know, kind of go our separate ways, and
Hardball got word out first that he wasn't going there,
so it wouldn't look like he got turned down since
it was so public he was meeting with them. So
I don't think you should go and say, well, he
chose Michigan, because I don't know that that's necessarily true.
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I think, you know, there was there was an opportunity
there and at some point it broke apart for whatever reason.
But the reality is, this is a day in a
now where you looked at the n i L and
the competition and recruiting, and look, we we know Ohio
State is going to put a bunch of resources and
assets into it. You know, they've been outward about it.
Some of their alumna have been outward about it. We
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haven't heard quite as much from Michigan. Now. They do
have a thing called Valiant where their their players can
go and make money for their n i L. You
know from that, but you know, it doesn't sound like
it compares as well as what Ohio State has or
even some of these sec schools. Whether jimbo Offisher wants
to admit it or not, the whole thing is just
weird how it all played out because people thought Minnesota
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was weird. Now, there was the relationship that he that
he had with Dopha Mensa, the GM in Minnesota from
his time in San Francisco, but it seemed like it
came out of nowhere. And the fact that Minnesota already
had somebody in line, and that report came out right
after the Harbor stuff. The fact that you know, Kevin
O'Connell is basically the guy that's reportedly going to get
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hired to the Rams Super Bowl, the Rams offensive coordinator,
leads me to believe that maybe Minnesota was like, uh,
we're not quite sure. We'll take the interview, will sit
with him, we'll talk with him, but it's just there's
something that doesn't add up through them. So you're saying
they might have already been feeling like they're going to
hire someone else before they did the interview with like like,
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I want to make sure you're clear on this, Yeah,
if you and Brady wanted to weigh in on that.
So what you're saying is there's a possibility. There's a
strong possibility that they may already have a coach that
they really really want over over Horror Hardball. That's that's
what you're just saying. Is that possible? Brady? Uh, Yeah,
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that's possible. So okay, all right, Well maybe we should
hit the races button. Maybe maybe they're being racist against
Hardball in this moment because they're I mean, it's a sham,
they're agin it's a sham of of an interview. If
they already have someone that they feel like they want
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to hire, can not we obviously we're still in the
Flora's topic in this discussion. One of the things I
didn't really understand about all this is is Patrick Graham,
who's the defensive courd in the the courdenitor with the
you know, New York Giants, who was also for the
Vikings job along with Raheem Morris as the other minority candidate.
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Um he had already satisfied the Routey rule for the
New York Giants, so he interviewed, if I'm not mistaken,
reportedly interviewed on the twenty six of January. So one
of the details of all this that I don't really
understand and I'm not sure anyone's talked about was if
if it was just Brian Flores going up to satisfy
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the Rouoney rule. And I believe his interview is on Thursday,
which would have been I think is a second interview. Sure,
but but I guess the point is is why would
you interview Patrick Graham or why you know, why would
you take the time to interview him a second time
unless there was legitimate interest. I know there's a text
message from Bill Belichick, but you know, that doesn't necessarily
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mean that they told Bill Brian Dable was for sure
getting the job. He just might have been the one
that they talked to about and vetted about when they
were going through their research of the candidates. I mean,
maybe they didn't need to go to Bill Belichick to
vet Brian Flores. Maybe they felt like they had enough
on him or whatever the case may have been. Like
that's one of the things I don't really understand is,
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you know, people were kind of acting like, what it
was only Brian Flores as a minority candidate for the
Giant's job. That's that's not the truth. That's not the case.
And also from a sham interview standpoint, if they already
knew they were hiring Brian day Ball, then shouldn't Dan
Quinn feel like he got shammed because he also I
could care less about that. You said that yesterday. The
other thing is that Brian Flores and you knew that,
and you thought that was it was a sham? Why
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would you go? That's the thing to me, if you're
a man of principal, you're saying you're a man a principle,
why why even go take the interview if you feel
like it's a sham or you feel you know, humiliated
and in all the other terms that were you. My
whole thing is again, the reason why I just pointed
that out to to you know, to you Jonas and
to you Brady, is I just found that to be interesting.
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If you're listening to what you're saying, you go take
the interview, because it's not over until it's over. It's
not done until it's done. I think we just experience
that with Harb it's not over until so is the
Houston job in the New Orleans job? Who I think
Brian Flores is up for both? Is that still in
the mixing? You can't I can't assume there's no way
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you could assume that those jobs would still be in
the mix. There's no way, Like what now he's going
to get announced as the new head coach of the
Houston Texans while suing the National Football League over discrimination
and racism. Uh In terms of the hiring process, I
I can't see how that would work out. But again,
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the idea of taking an interview and being a part
of the interviewing process and trying to get a gig,
it comes down to this. You keep putting your best
foot forward until they tell you have the job or
somebody else got it. That's how it works in the workforce.
You put your best foot forward. You guys did how
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many years of Radio five on the weekends until you
got to this point. I did weekends. I didn't have
a weekday show. I did weekends. I put my hat
in into the conversation of I love to work with
with guys like Brady and Jonas. I I put my
hat and then I'm gonna put my best foot forward.
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If they told me now we're gonna go with Brady
and and Jonas, that's we feel good about that. That
doesn't mean that I gotta jump off into all of
these wild tangents. They might say, you know what, they've
put five years in together. They put the time, and
we trust them. They have a great chemistry. I mean,
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there were a lot of questions coming into doing our show,
like what's their chemistry gonna be? Like? How is the
show going to sound? What does this look like? Right?
The bottom line is we got an opportunity to do it,
and we're doing it now. We we were. We have
a morning show and we make make it work. If
if one of us doesn't get chosen for the job,
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it doesn't necessarily have to be anything else other than
the simple reality of they wanted somebody else. Like Like,
the bottom line is when when I met my chick
and I thought for two for for for well more
than two minutes, but I just didn't think that I
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was heard type of guy. Right, I shot my shot.
I couldn't believe it worked. Still to this day, don't
believe that it worked. But it did. And you know what,
I was chosen for the job. If she'd went in
a different direction, if her personal preferences did not fit
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or match what I represented or what I brought to
the table, all I can do is accept that that's
what the situation called for, and continue to to look
for opportunities where I can put my best foot forward
again least I checked. That's what you call the American way.
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That's you. You have an opportunity to take it and
do it somewhere else they may have done. Brian Floor
has a favor. There's a possibility them not choosing him
and wanting him. It's not about humiliating him, it's not
about making it racial, and in essence, it's about them
doing you a favor because maybe the situation they were
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bringing you in wasn't going to be the best situation
for you anyway. So focus in on where the best
situation for you is going to be at that moment
in time, that's now in your rear view, that's now
under the bridge. If they didn't want you, they didn't
want you, you're not gonna go Why why I'm I
go running around they didn't want me. There's a problem,
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like na Bro, it's not always, it's not always. It
doesn't always play out that way. It seems like the
Belichick text was really by and he made made mention
of it that it really was humiliating that Belichick thought
he was you know talking to Brian Davis. You can't
make a mistakes, Brian Flores, you can't make the mistakes. Look,
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we interviewed this true story. I was filling in for
Doug Gottlieb on a show and Isaiah Thomas was one
of the guests, and he came on the air and said, oh,
I thought I was gonna be talking to Doug Gottlieb,
And I said, yeah, we thought we were gonna be
talking to I was like, yeah, well we thought we
were gonna be talking to Joe Dumars. So it's like,
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I'm just like, it's something like it happened. Sometimes people
make mistakes, but I don't know that it's the most
insulting thing in the world that like, I mean, well,
he comes on the air and basically humiliates just I mean,
good point. I'd rather talk to govin Doug anyways. But
like the the idea that because he confused Brian's in
his phone and all of a sudden it goes in
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this direction like that felt like it really. I mean,
that's the thing about it. You don't have to be
if he made the mistake, Oh that's my bed, Like
you made the mistake, you know, what I mean, Like
it doesn't have to be any there's so like when
it really matters, it really matters, Like when it's really
prejudice and it's racism and it it happens, and it's
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it's happening in a very very malicious way. It's happening,
and it should be addressed. But that isn't always what
it is. I'm sorry, Like I'm always shooting from the
hit that isn't always what it is. And and sometimes
to get the impact that you're seeking, if you're one
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that that really really lives for social change and and
and provement and and getting ahead, you gotta understand that
if you're looking at every single thing and calling it
this and calling it that, you take away the impact
of when it really is that. So I'm not saying
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that this isn't what it really is for Flora's because
I don't know his scenario from from what I know,
But if I'm looking at it from the standpoint of
in the total whole of everything that that takes place
in terms of workplace environment and how it's treated and
how you hire and how you go about race relations
and different things like that, we have to be and
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when I say we we as as as minorities, we
have to be aware of of when and where and
how this all works as well. We have to educate
ourselves on how the game works as well. You gotta
play the game to win. So if you're gonna put
something out there like that just makes him, maybe it's
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gonna come out. Just maybe, like you said earlier, Brady,
he's taking this to court, he must have some type
of information. Maybe that information is going to come out.
I just hope for the sake of how this represents
minority communities that it is what he's saying it is,
because that makes it that much more difficult, not just
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on him, it makes it that much more difficult on
other minorities. So that's that's the idea of it. I
do think it's gonna be interesting though, to see, you
know what other coaches would join in on the class
action lawsuit, and and partly because again Hugh Jacksons and
very outspoken about his time in Cleveland, and I just
wonder if they could be like, no, man, you're actually
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a kind of contradicting what we're trying to say here,
Like you know, what, what's what? What What occurred there? What
happened actually is contradicting our point, Like Brian ended up
getting fired because you wouldn't comply with that strategy, you know,
to to tank or take that bride. You actually took
it admittedly and were rewarded reward. I do wonder if
they're like, no, man, like that's that's gonna miss this
(28:07):
whole thing up, Like, we appreciate you being outspoken about it,
but we're gonna have to go in different directions out
there now. You know. It's so funny about the Brian
Florest thing too, when people go, my god, he was
the best coach that Dolphins had had and blah, like dude,
he had literally the exact almost virtually the exact same
record as Adam Gaze, except Gaye went to the playoffs,
like so let's like, let's not pretend like all of
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a sudden, you know, he was Vince Lombardi and he
got canned. Like come on, I mean, it wasn't like
they were this great football team. I mean they were
one in seven they started the year. It's like, you know,
there's there's a lot more to it. I mean, look,
there is something that we said for the way they
didn't fight back but yeah, it's funny you say that
he finished up Adam Gates's record. There was and Joe
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Philban was right around the same record before those guys.
So it's not like this is just all of a
sudden this is the first time they've ever fired to
coach like this. No, we've like this has happened, like
this is what Steven Ross has done, show Phil It's
just like the same thing. Like so, but you know, hey, whatever,
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weird man. It's very very awkward, is like that? It's
it's it's just very very disturbing. Is it more awkward
than the Brian Kelly dancing video. I don't know. This
(29:37):
was up there, two guys trying to stand on a
waiters tray at the same time, you know, little Brian
Kelly video, Like why not, yeah, get behind him, Brian,
make some noises and gesture jesters and gyrations and lose
your recruit dyn of my job. Sorry, that was bad.
That was bad. I knew from the NFL, where former
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offered him a hundred thousand dollars for each game that
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promised to defend his personal integritory as well integrity as
well as that of the organization. Former Cleveland Brown's head
coach Hugh Jackson claims that the team had a four
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The Browns always the Staphen, calling Jackson's claims completely fabricated.
But instead of Vikings reportedly planning to hire Rams offensive
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Name image likeness has been a topic of conversation for
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several months. Everybody is spend spend, spend uh and then
now we we are hearing some some conversations about coaches
and teams and programs that have a little bit of
an advantage over others, and so this sort of sparked
because Nick Saban and some others have made some comments about,
you know, maybe we need to do something here. You
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know this it feels like we're kind of it's kind
of getting out of control and all this, And and
then you had Lane kiffen Uh, the old misshead coach,
who had this to say from earlier in the weeks.
So we're gonna listen to Lane Kiffin and then we're
gonna hear somebody else in the SEC who had some
comments on it. But verse, let's here from Lane Kiffin.
We don't have the same funding resources as some of
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these schools do for these in IL deals, and so
it's basically dealing with different salary caps. We now have
a sport that has completely different salary caps. And some
of these schools are you know whatever, five ten times
more than everybody else and what they can pay the players.
So I know nobody uses those phrases, but that is
what it is. In free agency and NFL players usually
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go to the most money every once in a while,
they they don't because already have a bunch of money. Well,
these kids are seventeen eighteen years old. They're gonna go
to where they're paid the most. I'm not complaining, WHI
just is what it is. It's a whenever their scenes created.
There's a lot of times problems people didn't think about,
you know, and so you just legalized paying players what
people used to cheat. So that was a Lane Kiffin
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from that's always is of course, I mean, well, you know, yeah,
it's we could say it's always how it how it's been.
The reality is there were some schools who did it
above board. Uh. Lane's comments they hit home for me
for a number of reasons. He was you know, he
was a head coach in the NFL. He understands the
constraints and what that means with a salary cap, you know,
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given how much cap space you have as a team,
how you yoke about orchestrating that cap, and then how
it applies. He was a part of a USC team
that got popped for doing a lot of other things
underneath the table, and so he saw the advantages of
it then when they had that sort of capital. Maybe
now against what he's dealing with in the SEC, you
where he's probably not even a top four school in
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the SEC, and maybe five six. I mean when you
look at the resources that will miss as in comparison
to Texas A and M, Alabama, Georgia, l s U Florida,
I mean you start naming off teams. A lot of
these schools have let's just put it this way. You know,
a higher higher salary, salary cap more resources to deal with.
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So look at the reality is everything he's saying is
is legit and now you have ways of paying players
for the name of his likeness above board. But there
it does give you the sense that the schools who
tend to have the most money, and that sways to
the SEC. Which if I was to tell you the
top three highest recruiting classes ranked for this twenty two class,
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we're all SEC teams. Would you be surprised by that? No?
And um. And one of the guys who took a
great offense to this was Texas A and M head
coach at Jimbo Fisher UM now Jimbo Sure, longtime Florida
state coach. He never had a number one recruiting classes
according to rivals, all of a sudden, Texas A and M,
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who never had a number one recruiting class that going
back to years they've got they've got a rocket ship
for a recruiting class, and it's the first ever we've
never seen in one class get seven five star players.
It is the highest recruiting ranking we've ever seen, according
to seven Sports, which has which really is the standard,
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because they have a composite meaning they take rivals, they'll
take ESPN, they take everyone's rankings in their own, and
they create a composite ranking, which is the standard. Now
when you're looking at this, it is unlike anything that
we've ever seen in recruiting before. And so Jimbo Fisher,
you know, heard some of the conversations and um felt
like he needed to defend himself. So here was the
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Texas A and M head coach. There is no thirty
million dollar fund, there is no five means, there's no ten.
This is garbage and it does. It pisses me off.
And here it comes from a site called Probible by
a guy named Slice Bread. Then everybody runs with it,
so it's written on the internet's gospel. How irresponsible is that?
And then to have coaches and our leg and across
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this leg is say it clown acts al right, irresponsible
as hell. Multiple coaches in our league, and the guy's
griping about n I L, graping about transfer report, using
it the most, and bragging about it the most. That's
the ironic part. You want character, I'll trust, I'll take
it with any of y'all. It's a joke that does
piss me off. It's funny when Nick Saban said his
quarterback got a eightouand all of deal. It was wonderful.
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Now it ain't wonderful no more, huh. But ours that
we ain't got that ours on record? What comes up?
We ain't going on big deals, ain't none on our
places we know of. That's funny when you do it's
it's an absolute joke that people put the hard work
in and do it. It's irresponsible, but it's funny when
they get it's all okay. Ball games are changing, man,
and ain't because of N I L. And what goes on.
It's pretty irresponsible with all of them for clowns. The
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hypocrisy is a joke. It's an absolute joke, and it's
insulting to our have a hard we work, how we
do things. It's insulting the Texas A and M because
there ain't a better place to go to school and
play ball. We don't like it. We're coming on, get
used to it. We ain't going nowhere. Yeah. The president, Yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. What the hell is office
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slice bread or not pissed off about? I don't get it,
and I think he's I think he's upset because he
feels like they've worked really hard in recruiting to become
the number one class. It's the first time he's been
able to accomplish this, and he doesn't want it to
seem like the players the seven five star with nineteen
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four stars whatever it was, are all coming to Texas
A and M or college station because the money. He
wants it to be about the twelfth Man. He wants
to be about the tradition and everything else they have
to provide there, and his coaching staff. He doesn't want
to admit that maybe it's just about the money, do
you which, No, I don't buy it. You'll understand that
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in the state of Texas, you know, you can look
at how they go about preparing these things. But the
truth is slice Bread, Home Slice, whatever the hell he
said the guy's name was, He's not wrong. It's a
gigantic fund that they've literally been able to diagnose how
they go about doing it. It's a fund where a
bunch of donors put in money they assigned, then a
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point donor to each player that is going to receive
compensation for their name, image and likeness, and then that
donor helps surround them with other boosters and donors to
help facilitate that. I mean, the reality is it's above board.
You don't have to be ashamed of it. You know,
they've got their twelfth Man Foundation. They've started this amplified
program at tech stand M University to help them educate
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these kids on taxes and what n I L is,
and there their social platforms and how they could benefit
off that. It's all above board. You don't have to
be upset about it. Let's not lie about it either.
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen Jimbo Fisher
lied about things in the past back he was a
Florida State Let me find out work comes from slights fread.
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You're not going to get that many top top recruits
without having some really really good bait on the end
of your Remember when Old Miss landed like three or
four lacron treadmall a treadmall and um, and who was
the guy that jumped out of a window because he
was so high? Who was the guy at rob Yeah? Literally,
guy was like smoking weed. Literally it was since then
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whatever he was doing, he was he thought he was
multis now Yeah. Well yeah, there's a lot of guys
who had issues with it. But he got so high
that he went from like shampoo and God's hair to
jumping out of a window. I mean he was just
on another one and he was on top of God's
hair and that was It's a true story. I never
jumped out of a window though, But shampoo do you
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use on God's head? Only the finest? I was gonna
say plus, but again, I'm not here to give out
free sponsorship on the air point being I bet you
his head of hair is perfect. Yeah, no blow dryer needed.
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Ole Miss did the same thing, but it was illegal.
A lot of schools have done the same thing. It's
not ill. Did you not see the recruiting class Tennessee
put together last year? Did you like certain schools start
to get hot on the recruiting trail and then and
then a year, two years, three years, something happened, right,
(41:43):
somebody gets elevated, somebody gets fired, somebody doesn't win, somebody
a player doesn't play as much as somebody it's a
boosters son. Something happens that always blows it up. Are
we not paying attention to my homeboy just sign yesterday?
Are we paying attention right? And and we could go
(42:05):
down that rabbit hole of of of how that went
about how that happened. But the bottom line is is
once somebody is unhappy with the oh wait what their
treatment was while they were there, then things start to happen.
Emails start to pop up, text messages start to pop up,
(42:26):
ideas of how something went down. Or check this camera.
You'll see that this is during a dead period. Start
the things start to pop up that wouldn't have popped
up before. That's you want to know what the n
I L Is about to do. It's about to expose
the deep, dark ugliness of how some people operate to
(42:48):
get done what they get done. There are plenty of
guys around the country that are called handlers and recruiters
that these schools use. They're on payroll, and they built
relationships in certain regions and they're able to are they've
always been around right, Yes, the agents have them, schools
have them. Then they deliver. They deliver. Their livelihood is
(43:13):
determined by them delivering those top recruits. So this has
always been around the top bidder is going to win.
It's not illegal anymore, so why is he complaining? This
is like the guy who's he's complaining because he doesn't
feel like he has the resources, even with it now
being a legalized way of approaching things with the n
I A clear doesn't have as much the offer. It's
(43:35):
Jimbo Fisher sounds like a guy who's a four who
lands a ten because he's got money and then gets
consulted when you say, well, you do you drive a Benz?
I mean you got money? Like the way do you
think she's with you? No, that's not true. You look
like you drive a Bens too, But your bens is
it's a two thousand six. Like, dude, you look like
a gargoyle. She's not gonna date you unless you had cash.
(43:58):
Like he's got the cash. It's working for all the time.
Who'd be so upset about it? I don't understand. It's game.
Game was strong. I might not be pretty, but that's
a good point. I just I don't understand. I don't
understand why he's getting so upset about it. I mean,
take what it is, man, You've got an advantage. It's work,
and it worked this year. I mean, like revel in it.
What's the what's the problem. I don't understand. It's weird
(44:21):
complaining Jimbo Fisher. I had said, whoever slice bread is
um living rent free and Jimbo Fisher's head, that's job serious.
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