February 4, 2022 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to the Jaguars hiring Doug Pederson and Trent Baalke being able to keep his position as GM. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer gives insight into the Brian Flores lawsuit and the Vikings passing on Jim Harbaugh. Plus, the last edition of BQ's News.
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Fox Sports Radio. And as it is every single Friday,
even when there's not legitimate football games going on this weekend,
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it's a damn football Friday. Here yeah. Football Friday here
football football yeah yeah yeah, Friday yeah yeah yeah yeah,
do it? Do it? Do it? Football Friday? Yeah yeah yeah,
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jump on yep, yep, yeah yeah, I see you. Berto.
I don't know why, but I always envisioned us if
we could all get together for that and it kind
of being um, was it Rocky for at the beginning?
Was living in the US? That was when was in
the Russian Was that? Was that the beginning of Rocky four?
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It was kind of in the beginning. Yeah, it wasn't
the beginning because you know, he had to he had
to kill off Mahomie and and and then Rocky had
to get mad and fight what without although being killed off,
we wouldn't have creed, and the Creeds have been pretty legit.
I haven't seen, yeah, I haven't seen those. I've heard
they're not. But I almost feel like if Apollo was
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here would be better though. It would be like Apollo
coaching with Rocky training his kid and Ivan Drago training
his kid, and then everybody's got a kid, because you
you remember Rocky trying to put his kid in boxing.
He didn't quite make it to the ring. I don't
believe I think he was just learning how to defend
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himself in the streets. But everybody had a son that fot. Yeah,
he had too much of that Atrean genetics. Oh yeah,
Adrian genetics. Okay, just saying pet You know a lot
of these Twitter cats got that that mama trading their
pet shop talents. They're not radio talent, they're not media talent,
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their pet shop talents talent. Go pick that bird feet down,
very very very good. Feed feed the pair of keats.
All right, it's trying not to be mad at speaking
of speaking of a careful not too much. Uh, Speaking
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of pet shops, let's talk about the NFL's pet shop.
It is the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's a circus. They got
all sorts of fun stuff going on. Here's a question
after you guys now that they finally found a head
coach after they had a month head started everybody else,
and it's Doug Peterson who takes over the helm. There
if every single and we could ask Albert Brier about this,
he's going to join us here in about fifteen minutes
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from now. If if all the same concerns keep happening,
why is there not a change made? So you got
Byron left, which, as we talked about earlier, who said
he didn't want the job because Trent Baulky was there.
You've got Jim Harbaugh, who was a really successful head
coach in the NFL, he couldn't get along with Trent
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Bulky anymore. And you've got Doug Peterson who ended up
taking the job, who's already expressed concerns about having to
work with Trent Bulky, yet Trent Bulky still there. Like
at some point, if you're shod Khan, don't you start
asking some questions like, Hey, why doesn't anybody want to
work with the guy that I've appointed is having some
leverage and control in this organization? Or is it? I
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don't want to look like a fool based on what
happened with the Urban Meyer situation. So I've got to
go ahead and stick to my guns here and try
and hope, hope in the end that I'm gonna be right. Like,
I don't get it. I'm confused by the whole thing.
I always wonder if these owners, because of how wealthy
they are, if they just have other interests that are
more important than this. In some cases, I don't know
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that the owners prioritize an NFL team as much as
they do their other endeavors. So I just wonder how
much he cares. I know his son is involved with
the soccer team, he's more involved now, used to be
much more involved with the analytics within the Jagua, and
now he's running in a professional wrestling company. And I
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know that that's been taken up a lot of their time.
And that's not a joke, that's a real thing. And
so I don't know if that is impacting what is
happening there in Jacksonville. But uh, I thought, because I am,
it's just funny. They're just they're just so bad. I think.
I think Bulky has obviously done something well enough where
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people buy into and trust them and and and listen.
I I can I can think of two or three
names that, right off the top of my head, based
off of some semblance of success that they've had in
their in their career the duration of their career, that
they were good enough salespeople. And I think if you
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can continue to be good enough at selling people on
what your vision is and how it can work, you
will you will have some people that support that and
continue to stay with that. And and try to ride
out the process of what it could possibly be based
upon what they hoped that they were hiring this person for.
When you say sales, you know what I think of
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I think of their good storytellers. Like we as humans
are we're already wired to love stories. We love them
when we're little as kids, and as you get older
you don't realize it. Well, when people sell you on something,
they're telling you a story. They're they're they're selling you
on why you need this product, good service, whatever, And
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they're selling you with a story. And that's what I
feel like. He obviously has the ear of Shot Khan
as a salesman, but like almost that, he's just a
good storyteller maybe, like how do you how do you
explain what happened in San Francisco where you reservice? Again?
You gotta have a great story, you know, how do
you get the ear of someone you've never worked with
before to become the general management in the first place?
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You gotta be a good storyteller that the success maybe
of your past, but also figuring how to diffuse the losses,
the weaknesses, whatever else is out there, And you gotta
be a good storyteller do that. So I just I
think he must be one hell of a story celler.
It's just they're just a it's comedy through and through.
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So we can get more from Albert Briers to how
the hell that whole situation went down. Here's the other
thing I wanted to add. And now we're gonna go
ahead and we're going to rank this a fun little
game here, impromptu game on Fox Sports Radio. Rank the
diss Alright, so somebody dissed somebody else in the NFL world,
and you guys on a scale one to two eleven,
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we're gonna go one to ten. But that's played out,
and because LaVar war number eleven, we can go one
to eleven. What you think of the diss I'm gonna
read quotes from Jimmy Haslum, the Brown's owner, uh in
regards to Hugh Jackson, his former head coach, who came
out and said that you know, yeah yeah, and being
like the top notch. All right, So we've got several
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answers from Jimmy has m to Hugh Jackson's claims where
he alluded to being rewarded to lose games. Because if
that's the case, I mean, Jeff Bezos is neck and
neck with Hugh Jackson for the wealthiest man in America.
That's if we're rewarding guys for losing games like Hugh
Jackson claims, Um, then then he must have made a
lot of money. And so Jimmy Haslum was talking with
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Knox News. I'm not making that up news. That's it's
really who's talking about. That's true. That's true. Listen, man,
I told you it's now it's the Knoxville News Sentinel.
But they call it Knox News. They do. I'm telling you,
all right, lead, let's go live to our I can
confirm the Roberts Lee. What do we got? It's true. Unfortunate,
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it's weird. Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, kiss my ass. It's not unfortunate,
all right, listen, unfortunate. So here's what we got, Um,
these are quotes from Jimmy Haslm. So we have some
game show music here, Lavarn Brady are going to rank
the diss from Jimmy has them to huge Jacks. All right,
So here we go, let's get it started. Let's go
quote Hugh Jackson has never accepted any responsibility for our
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record during that time period. He's been masterful of pointing fingers,
but has never accepted any blame. I have accepted a
ton of blame, and rightfully so, there are a lot
of things I could have done better. He was never
accepted blame for one thing, alright, one to eleven ranked
the diss like what I think, it's like a ten.
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You know why, because there's truth in what has them said.
And you remember during that period when he was rolling
through coaches like there was like a one year track
record for a while, employees were just beside themselves every
year when he get up and say he's making another change.
But I mean, it's kind of looking on the up
and up now. But he's being honest, like he's he
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did take a lot of accountability for their you know,
their their shortcomings. So Brady's got a ten, LaVar's got
a file. I feel like this is a slam dunk
contest where just we've got a ranging score. Yeah, so
all right, Next up, this is the the fun little
game show sweeping the nation. Here it's a rate the
disc from Jimmy Haslum to Hugh Jackson. Here this on
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the subject of being paid to lose games or being
compensated to lose. Quote unequivocally, Hugh Jackson was never paid
to lose games. That is an absolute falsehood. And it's
also an absolute falsehood that I laughed while we were losing.
Most people who know me would say, that's not how
Jimmy would react to losing. In the fifteen minute ESPN
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interview that he did for approximately fourteen and a half minutes,
it was about how he was treated so poorly with
the Browns and lots of claims he had one to eleven. Okay,
there's more, go ahead, Yes, no, No, that's it. That's
that's it for that. When we're bringing this up into
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three parts. Alright, So alright, so here we go. Let's
see if anything can top the first one. He's got
to do better. He's gotta like go, he's gotta go
a little deeper. He's got a little bit live, a
little bit on the edge like this, dude, I'm dissing
on Twitter, like you gotta go a little bit further, man,
you gotta you gotta cut it. That guy speaking of
I don't like letting things go. I don't. I don't.
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All right, So here we go. Last one up here,
Jimmy haslum the rank. The diss to Hugh Jackson. I
can't think of any individual that I've worked with over
the past forty five years that I spent as much
time trying to help to be successful as I did
Hugh Jackson. That's an eleven. See, that's what I'm looking for.
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You didn't have to go anymore. His third year, that's
the eleven guy. His third year, when our roster began
too pretty dramatically improve the eight games he coached, we
were to five and one. After he was dismissed, we
went five and three twelve. They got extra so we're
going we got extra credit on that one. So now
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that is a diss. That's a dissa again, so everybody
understand that's the real diss. That's what I was looking for, right,
That's that's real material good. They can't think of any
individual that I've worked with over the past forty five
years that I spent much time trying to help be
successful as I did. Hugh Jackson. Years his third year,
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when our roster begin to pretty dramatically improve the eight
games he coach, who were two and five and one.
After he was dismissed, we went five and three. Bang,
that's a diss. Bang, that's a diss about that. That's
what I was looking. We got, Brady, is that top
year ten from the first one. I would say that's
it probably tops the first one. If I could, if
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I could now hearing that, if I could re score it,
I would get him the first one maybe an eight
and this one at ten. That's fine. I mean, that's fair.
But that that's a diss. That's that. That's that that
that's where you when he reads that, when you to
read that, you want that to hurt. Yeah, you wanted
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to hurt. Here's the So if you're if you're listening
to the show and you're like, god, it sounds like
something else was going on in the studio. Years if
you were here listening to the shows and you heard it,
and you said, man, it sounds like something else is
going on in the studio when they're trying to play
that game. I wish we had a camera in the
control room. You were correct. And if one of your
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guesses was Lee must have blew it the the the
Lee volcano must have erupted heat. Man. Yeah, Roberto was
getting cocky this morning, throwing some softballs over the playoffs.
I decided to bring the heat. Had some bubs big
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Boy less what you don't know who Bob's Big Boys.
Big Boy is a you know, cultural icon. Yeah, is
the big Boy. I want you to be honest. Did
you like freshest Big Boy? No, this is Bob's Big Boy.
It's like an old diner, like it's from like the
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nineteen fifties, you know out there. Yeah, mel stinks. Uh Lee,
did you have the blue cheese? Of course I had
the cheese. Yeah, That's what the problem was, Um, what's
wrong with you? Why? Why did you continue to do
this to him? Roberto? You know he was he was
rattling him off this morning. So I was on, how
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are you deflecting? I mean, you're you're almost like Hugh
Jackson right now. Yeah, yeah, you know I didn't open
the back door. That's what it's just the problem is,
it's like, you know, it's something the biggest studio in
the world, and Roberto kind he's like in the coal
mines man, You're like, you only like I used to like.
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It's like we got we had dueling pianos in there,
and everybody's trying to out do the other one. Well done,
uh now, we can't walk in there, all right, Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio. But old,
all right, Roberto, that's right, it's a LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knocks. What do you call Lee's pants? Right now?
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Let's say that one? How you say that? Got? All right?
Coming up next and we're going to talk with the
ex We're gonna talk with our NFL insider about some
of these, uh these stories in the NFL involving coaches
and whether or not we could see the Miami Dolphins
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have to sell their team. We'll get all the latest
on it right here on fs are be sure to
catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of
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Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio. Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe here, Fox Sports Radio. We got
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the b Q News coming up here later on in
the hour, about twenty minutes from now. But right now
we turn it over to one of our guys. He's
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB You can
get him on Twitter at Albert Brier at the Senior Bowl. Now,
how is Mobile, Alabama? Are you diving into some of
the barbecue there? What's the scene? Like, Albert, I'm not
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there anymore. Actually, I got my voice is a little rasty,
and a few days I did not wind up going
to Dreamland. Um, I like, I like Dreamline barbecue, but
I did go, like They've got a lot of great
like like Southern style fea food down there. Uh, it's
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actually like pretty underrated for that stuff. I mean I
would have just gotten I'll be honest with you, that's
a difference between Albert and myself. I would have just
gotten hammered, hammered every single night out. He wouldn't do that. Hey,
how did you get an opportunity to check out Jesse
Lookeetta while you were watching practices? The defense? The defensive
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end linebacker he's asked about. Still I didn't get a
great look at him. No, we don't have bigger things
to talk about. That's why I wanted to throw it
out there quickly. This is way more like a networking
for me want scouting. Well, I watched practice, but I'm
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there to gather information and network from the coaches and stuff.
I got you, I got you. Um, did you see
any notre dame guy? I'm just I'm sure I figured out.
Started off with I did see something you said in
regards to the Dolphins and Steven Ross yesterday, and I
want our audience to hear it whether or not this
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is legitimate. Did I did I hear you say that?
You think Steven Ross is going to defend this allegation
by Brian Flores about a hundred k per loss by
saying he did say it in a joking manner? Is that?
Did I hear that? Right? Yeah? I mean, like that
was one thing I had sort of heard over the
last couple of days, and you know, discussing obviously what
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was in the lawsuit with people. Was that like the
idea that he could say I was joking around. And
I mean, I I mean, look like I don't know
whether or not he said directly to anybody. Um, it's
just one thing I heard that he could that he
could say that he was he was joking about the
hundred thousand dollar payments. And obviously, I mean, bright you
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lived down there, like it was a big topic of
discussion for that full year. Um, you know, a lot
of people thought they were tanking, and all the the
transactions over the course that year, Clarion cavs, Thea's building
updraft capital, trading away veterans like makeup Fitzpatrick and Laramy
tunsil Um. You know, I it was obviously a big
topic of discussion in South Florida that entire year, and
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so yeah, I mean that was one thing that sort
of you know, I came up over the last couple
of days, was that maybe Stephen Ross would defending himself
in this case by saying that he was joking around
about incentivizing tanking. That could I mean, you want to
follow up on that, Brady, or do we want to
move on from that? I mean you can follow up?
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I mean, is that is that wise to even allow
that to to leak out as a leaked out approach
to this? I mean that sounds horrible. I mean, things
a horrible. The whole thing is not good, guys. I mean, like,
crypab I'm wrong, Like and I haven't seen the movie
in a long time, but isn't this like showless show right?
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Like I mean, like I don't know, like the difference,
Like I I don't know where there's a huge difference
between this and something like that. And so you know,
if this is legitimate, like if there was incentived to tank, um,
then that's a very serious allegation because all, I mean,
all all any of these sports have and you guys
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know this, like all any of these sports have is
that they're played on the level. That's that's what separates
it from professional wrestling, right and so like, I like,
like any sort of accusation like this has to be
taken very very seriously. And look like if there's legitimacy
see to what Brian Flores is accusing Stephen Rossa, Like
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I mean, I almost think you have to make him
sell a team Like this is as serious as it gets.
And so um, you know, like obviously like there's this
the main thing, the main point Brian Flores was trying
to get across what's what happened with his personal experience
and what it means um as far as where the
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league stands with diversity and the coaching ranks. But I
mean that detail, um in this whole thing, I mean
brings about some very very serious questions. And you know, again,
if if it's legitimate, if the ACT Nations legitimate, Like
then the league has to take a serious look at
Stephen Ross's ownership of the Dolphins. It's Albert Brier, senior
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NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio two Pros and a cup of Joe with
you here on fs are. UM, I want to ask
you about the Doug Peterson higher in Jacksonville. What the
hell happened? What is going on there with Trent baal Ky,
with Byron Leftwich, with candidates not wanting to be a
part of it because of Balky's involvement, Like, like, what
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is the structure there in Jacksonville? And why ultimately was
Doug Peterson the guy? Well, so like this is I mean,
like the most amazing fact, UM, And I want to
give credits. I think it was Tim Calcamie out in
the Bay Area who initially tweeted this um. Trent Balkey's
last five years in the NFL five different head coaches,
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three in San Francisco, two in Jacksonville, and now this
will be a sixth and six years, which is insane, right,
And I think it speaks to why there was a
lot of distrust towards him. I mean, if we're calling
it what it is, and people thought he stabbed Jim
Harbaugh in the back. People thought he stabbed Jim tom
Sewell in the back. People thought he stabbed Dervin Meyer
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in the back, and like people thought he stabb Dave Caldwell,
who hired him there, in the back, And like that's why,
you know, head coaching candidates were leary about the idea
of going there, and it speaks to that distrust like
they're only they're only thirty two of these. So the
fact that guys were willing to walk away from an
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opportunity to go there, or the chance of an opportunity
to go there, I think speaks volumes about where a
lot of people UH stand with Trent Balky and quite honestly, guys,
Doug Peterson was one of those guys. A couple of
weeks ago, he was the front runner. He fell off
the radar, and I know a lot of people felt
like the reason why was he didn't like the structure
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that was in place there. And so I'm not sure
this is completely over as far as what the front
office is gonna look like. And it'll be really interesting
to see whether or not Doug Peterson was able to
convinced Sean Cohn that he had to bring somebody with him.
If he was gonna be there, there had to be
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another front office guy there. And so you know, Rick
Spielman's name has been thrown around. Rick Spielman and Doug
Peterson sharing agent UM. It'll be interesting to see if
Rick Spielman, the former Vikings GM, comes in and is
paired with UM with with Doug Peterson, because that's that
that would be the one thing that would explain why
Doug Peterson went from really lukewarm interest two weeks ago
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to now being the head coach of the Jaguars. Let
me let me follow up on that and and ask
you in terms of him having trepidation because of the
structure and all of those things you just mentioned, how
much does it play a part and the narratives that
seem to be out there on on the headlines, is
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best decision outside or next or after Byron Leftwich? You're
coming into a situation where we all know how it
ended up and what he had to deal with in
Philadelphia is this Has there anything surfaced or do you
suspect that there may be a surfacing of addressing the
fact that it almost comes as he is the choice
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based upon them not getting who they originally wanted to
bring in and what he represents Byron Leftwich, that is,
to that Jacksonville market. I want, like, I want to
wait before I passed judgment until I can figure out
the complete detail on this, because I mean, I can't
tell you like Adrian Wilson Byron left which are close,
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Adrian Wilson is seeing league wide as a very viable
general manager candidate, and so like, it makes sense to
me that Byron would walk away if he couldn't get
the set up he wanted there, and it makes sense
to me that that set up might include Adrian Willis.
And now the next question would be, well, why are
you Rug Peterson Rick Spielman if you wouldn't give Byron
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Leftwich um Adrian Wilson. And maybe the answer is that
maybe Byron Leftwich and Adrian Wilson wanted Trent Balky out altogether,
and maybe Doug Peterson wanted Rick Spielman and said we'll
keep Trump Balki in some capacity, but I want Rick
Spielman to be in charge. In other words, maybe you
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make Rick Spielman like the president of Football Operations and
then have Trump Valki working underneath him. That's the only
thing that can make sense because there are so many
moving pieces here, LaVar, where Trent Balki became such a
divisive figure in the search and like how Trump Balki
was going to fit into the organization, whether or not
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Trump Dalky was gonna be out of the organization, became
so central to the candidacy if so many of these
candidates and central again into the karnacy. The two guys
that we've been talking about over the last two weeks directly,
and that's Doug Peterson and Byron Leftwich. Albert brierre joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, what happened with
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Jim Harbaugh and the Minnesota Vikings. They didn't give him
an offer? Um, And you know, I don't know if
they game heads up and said you're not getting the job,
and then you know that allowed him to go back
to Michigan and say that he decided to go back
to Michigan and rather than he didn't get the job
in Minnesota. Um. You know, I I don't know like
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how that game was played exactly, but I do know
that he wasn't getting an offer in Minnesota, they'd made
the decision to go with Kevin O'Connell and Jim Harbaugh.
Was the announcement that the news coming out that Jim
Harbaugh was going back to Michigan coincided with the Vikings
making calls for the different candidates and telling them that
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they were out. And you think Jim Harbora would have
that information because he was in Minnesota that day. So
my guest, and this is just a guess, is Harba
wanted the Minnesota job and wanted back in the NFL
and looked at the Raider job and then saw the
writing of the wall, realized it wasn't happening, and recognized,
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I better go make good with Michigan and I go
better make go make this look a certain way so
I can function their highest level possible going back there
in two thousand and twenty two. I'm not sure, guys,
that he won't be in the NFL in twenty or
twenty four. I think what the last two years have
shown us is that he has very real designs on
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getting back to the NFL. I can tell you when
they put him through the cake, he was sniffing around
every NFL job he I people talked directly to the
Jets and Chargers, and obviously this year was way more
outward his interest in the Raiders, his interest in the Vikings.
Um and I I also know he wasn't happy about
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having to take the pay kind of Michigan a year ago.
So it'll be very interesting seeing where this goes in
Michigan over the course of the next year. But I
think eventually he's back in the NFL. Albert, I just
want to ask you kind of a general question, h
the situation with Brian Flores. What are the next steps?
How does this thing continue on? To the best of
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our knowledge, we don't believe that anyone else has joined
his class action lawsuit. Do you expect any other coaches too? Yeah,
I don't know if they'll. I don't know if they will.
Brady Um, you know, I think, you know, Brian Fores
has to be a plot for his courage here. It
took a lot he did. Um. You know, I think
more than anything else, more than this being about a
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single case, I think this is and you know, I've
talked to a couple of I'M people who are you know,
really really involved in all of this Over the last
couple of days who've told me that as much as
anything else, this is the frustration level reaching a tipping point.
The reason why there were more job openings across the
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NFL than anybody thought that was gonna be this year.
People thought it was me five or six and wound
up being nine. There was also a ton of qualified
minority candidates, guys like where He Morris, Todd Bowles, Leslie Fraser,
Damiko Ryan's, Gerard Mayo like there was a good candidate
pool this year. And so, you know, I think what
Flores is lawsuits sort of signifies is the frustration level
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of minority coaches hitting a tipping point. And I think
the way you want to look at this, this is
a change of venue. The way the Rooney rule went
in nineteen years ago. Um, it was under the threat
of litigation. It was Johnny cochlan putting together a report
and threatening a lawsuit against the NFL based on the
fact that they've only been six black head coaches over
(29:51):
the first eighty two years of the NFL. UM So
what the NFL did was they gamed it. They said,
we're gonna take it from the courts into our system
and the NFL system. Nineteen years later. I mean, I
think this is Brian Flores and I think the I
think other minority coaches who are probably involved in the
background saying the NFL system doesn't work, so we have
(30:14):
to take it back into the courts. I don't know
what the endgame is, but I do know that they
feel like they need to put more pressure in the
league and this is one way to do it. Um.
And as for Brian Floores his future, I know a
lot of people have thought like, maybe he'll never coach
in the NFL again. I just don't think that's gonna happen.
I think he's too good a coach, and I think,
you know, he's got too much respect um from the
(30:35):
people who are in that Patriot family and haven't talked
to some of those people in Mobile over the last
couple of days, you know. I I just I can't
imagine that if he wants to coach in the NFL again,
that opportunity won't be afforded to him. I don't think
the death's gonna happen. Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter with the MMQB. Albert always appreciate it.
(30:56):
Get some rest man will do it again next week.
All right, thank you, I said, wen um need senior
questions for me? That last that last response left question
Stephen Ross, the hell are you doing? Dude? Well, I
was joking. That's good. That is, that's not gonna fly
(31:19):
an idiot. One of the things that bothers me about
this whole entire topic with everything going on, is sometimes
people will feel like we're flip flopping because one day
we'll say one thing and the next day we'll say
something else. The reality is is when you find more
information or here norton more you know, and talk to
more people, especially qualified people, it changes your opinion, it
(31:40):
changes how you feel about that's media. That's called media.
That's how it works us flip flock, flopping, back pedal
and shut up. It's called media. Works have confirmation. That's
the opportunity of cracking a mic. Every day. We get
new details every day. Um well, speaking ahead questions on
(32:01):
on the whole floor as going to the legal, legal
side of it, based off of the frustration, if it's
based off of everyone, why didn't everyone do this? Oh? Snap,
guess what I saw? Um? All right, coming up next,
we're going to get into another edition of the b
Q News. Yeah, it's it's a little strange and we'll
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(33:55):
to the news. Deess, what the good news? Here's Brady
Quinn all, what do we got. Well, let's just start
off with well, a good old dead Spin article. It
had to be updated. There had to be some redactions
because well as well, as we talked about earlier in
the show. Uh, the run game coordinator for the San
Francisco fort Nighters, Mike vic Daniel. I guess dead Spin
(34:19):
doesn't feel like he's a qualified candidate, so they write
a hit piece on him. Uh and and but they
have to come to realize that he's not just another young,
quote unquote white guy. He actually is by racial They
were unaware. That's a serious miss. Yeah, they had to
update that particular ARTI dead Spin sucks mean the worst,
(34:44):
just the worst, unbelievable, a shame. I don't feel that
bad about it. That's pretty bad. It's good because a
lot of times you your your skin is considered to
be your sin, and it's like it's so noticeable, and
then for you to not get that badge of honor,
(35:05):
that's messed up. Like I was not black enough to
be with my own people in this one, like yeah,
I went, well, well you know, there you go. You
all right? Yeah too. He was a little too light,
a little too lights shown this alright. Um. Any of
you guys got an Apple Watching the Truth? Yeah, yeah,
I do. I don't know how to use it though,
(35:26):
That's why I don't use it. My brother got it
for me for Christmas. I just feel like it will
play tricks on you. Man. I don't know. I don't
want it. I don't know how to use it. Still,
I can't figure Apple watches and TikTok I stay away from. Man.
That's that's that's that's not saying much for your honest
Because one family found out you gotta be careful because
they let their toddler play with their Apple Watch during naptime.
(35:49):
It ended up calling nine one. So when the authorities
showed up, they're a bit surprised by that. So you
gotta be careful about handling our Apple watches to toddlers.
You know what else, you gotta be careful with the
bluetoothe the Bluetooth option, the blue blue tube. But I
don't even know about no bluetooth bluetooth that. You gotta
(36:10):
be very careful with the bluetooth. Didn't that get thrown
on the field and buffalo? Yes? Um, what do you what?
What were you saying about the blueool? I mean you
just gotta be careful with because you may run videos
or music of some sort and it may not be
they may go through the yes. I mean I've just
heard yes that is, and then somebody has to like
(36:32):
call you immediately or text you and say, you know,
you turn your bluetooth off. This is a true story. Yeah,
when so we were listening to uh to the bluetooth,
but I had my in laws were over and they
were making Tamali's and so I put on the Mexican
Christmas Station True story and it was on the bluetooth.
(36:52):
So it was all like Mexican Christmas music and they
we're having a great time. We're having so much fun.
And I had to be careful because you know, we
have a text chain and you know, maybe there might
be some videos or certain things that are sent over.
And I had to make sure that if I wanted
to listen to it, I had to disconnect from the
bluetooth and listen. But just imagine if you have a
hearing that we talked about. But just imagine if you
(37:13):
have forgotten to do it's happened, and I've I've blanked
on the neighbors. Know what's going on here. It's not
my vote. You have a neighbor name of r. Yeah,
cut it off, cut it off, I'll plug it. Okay.
So the New York so this is this is the
first UM, they've announced that admitted pair of male penguins
(37:38):
have become the facilities first same sex penguin couple to
become parents. Okay, how all right? I mean what do
I mean they adopted? How did how did that happen? Back?
I don't know enough about penguins and sea horses can
can get that done? Yeah, I know you're right, horses
can in this case though, I think they UM, I
(38:00):
don't know if they drugged him or what the just
they paired him up together. So I don't know. It's
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Fox Sports Radio. And as it is every single Friday,
even when there's not legitimate football games going on this weekend,
(01:03):
it's a damn football Friday. Here yeah. Football Friday here
football football yeah yeah yeah, Friday yeah yeah yeah yeah,
do it? Do it? Do it? Football Friday? Yeah yeah yeah,
(01:26):
jump on yep, yep, yeah yeah, I see you. Berto.
I don't know why, but I always envisioned us if
we could all get together for that and it kind
of being um, was it Rocky for at the beginning?
Was living in the US? That was when was in
the Russian Was that? Was that the beginning of Rocky four?
(01:49):
It was kind of in the beginning. Yeah, it wasn't
the beginning because you know, he had to he had
to kill off Mahomie and and and then Rocky had
to get mad and fight what without although being killed off,
we wouldn't have creed, and the Creeds have been pretty legit.
I haven't seen, yeah, I haven't seen those. I've heard
they're not. But I almost feel like if Apollo was
(02:11):
here would be better though. It would be like Apollo
coaching with Rocky training his kid and Ivan Drago training
his kid, and then everybody's got a kid, because you
you remember Rocky trying to put his kid in boxing.
He didn't quite make it to the ring. I don't
believe I think he was just learning how to defend
(02:33):
himself in the streets. But everybody had a son that fot. Yeah,
he had too much of that Atrean genetics. Oh yeah,
Adrian genetics. Okay, just saying pet You know a lot
of these Twitter cats got that that mama trading their
pet shop talents. They're not radio talent, they're not media talent,
(02:53):
their pet shop talents talent. Go pick that bird feet down,
very very very good. Feed feed the pair of keats.
All right, it's trying not to be mad at speaking
of speaking of a careful not too much. Uh, Speaking
(03:18):
of pet shops, let's talk about the NFL's pet shop.
It is the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's a circus. They got
all sorts of fun stuff going on. Here's a question
after you guys now that they finally found a head
coach after they had a month head started everybody else,
and it's Doug Peterson who takes over the helm. There
if every single and we could ask Albert Brier about this,
he's going to join us here in about fifteen minutes
(03:39):
from now. If if all the same concerns keep happening,
why is there not a change made? So you got
Byron left, which, as we talked about earlier, who said
he didn't want the job because Trent Baulky was there.
You've got Jim Harbaugh, who was a really successful head
coach in the NFL, he couldn't get along with Trent
(04:00):
Bulky anymore. And you've got Doug Peterson who ended up
taking the job, who's already expressed concerns about having to
work with Trent Bulky, yet Trent Bulky still there. Like
at some point, if you're shod Khan, don't you start
asking some questions like, Hey, why doesn't anybody want to
work with the guy that I've appointed is having some
leverage and control in this organization? Or is it? I
(04:23):
don't want to look like a fool based on what
happened with the Urban Meyer situation. So I've got to
go ahead and stick to my guns here and try
and hope, hope in the end that I'm gonna be right. Like,
I don't get it. I'm confused by the whole thing.
I always wonder if these owners, because of how wealthy
they are, if they just have other interests that are
more important than this. In some cases, I don't know
(04:44):
that the owners prioritize an NFL team as much as
they do their other endeavors. So I just wonder how
much he cares. I know his son is involved with
the soccer team, he's more involved now, used to be
much more involved with the analytics within the Jagua, and
now he's running in a professional wrestling company. And I
(05:06):
know that that's been taken up a lot of their time.
And that's not a joke, that's a real thing. And
so I don't know if that is impacting what is
happening there in Jacksonville. But uh, I thought, because I am,
it's just funny. They're just they're just so bad. I think.
I think Bulky has obviously done something well enough where
(05:28):
people buy into and trust them and and and listen.
I I can I can think of two or three
names that, right off the top of my head, based
off of some semblance of success that they've had in
their in their career the duration of their career, that
they were good enough salespeople. And I think if you
(05:50):
can continue to be good enough at selling people on
what your vision is and how it can work, you
will you will have some people that support that and
continue to stay with that. And and try to ride
out the process of what it could possibly be based
upon what they hoped that they were hiring this person for.
When you say sales, you know what I think of
(06:12):
I think of their good storytellers. Like we as humans
are we're already wired to love stories. We love them
when we're little as kids, and as you get older
you don't realize it. Well, when people sell you on something,
they're telling you a story. They're they're they're selling you
on why you need this product, good service, whatever, And
(06:34):
they're selling you with a story. And that's what I
feel like. He obviously has the ear of Shot Khan
as a salesman, but like almost that, he's just a
good storyteller maybe, like how do you how do you
explain what happened in San Francisco where you reservice? Again?
You gotta have a great story, you know, how do
you get the ear of someone you've never worked with
before to become the general management in the first place?
(06:56):
You gotta be a good storyteller that the success maybe
of your past, but also figuring how to diffuse the losses,
the weaknesses, whatever else is out there, And you gotta
be a good storyteller do that. So I just I
think he must be one hell of a story celler.
It's just they're just a it's comedy through and through.
(07:16):
So we can get more from Albert Briers to how
the hell that whole situation went down. Here's the other
thing I wanted to add. And now we're gonna go
ahead and we're going to rank this a fun little
game here, impromptu game on Fox Sports Radio. Rank the
diss Alright, so somebody dissed somebody else in the NFL world,
and you guys on a scale one to two eleven,
(07:36):
we're gonna go one to ten. But that's played out,
and because LaVar war number eleven, we can go one
to eleven. What you think of the diss I'm gonna
read quotes from Jimmy Haslum, the Brown's owner, uh in
regards to Hugh Jackson, his former head coach, who came
out and said that you know, yeah yeah, and being
like the top notch. All right, So we've got several
(08:00):
answers from Jimmy has m to Hugh Jackson's claims where
he alluded to being rewarded to lose games. Because if
that's the case, I mean, Jeff Bezos is neck and
neck with Hugh Jackson for the wealthiest man in America.
That's if we're rewarding guys for losing games like Hugh
Jackson claims, Um, then then he must have made a
lot of money. And so Jimmy Haslum was talking with
(08:22):
Knox News. I'm not making that up news. That's it's
really who's talking about. That's true. That's true. Listen, man,
I told you it's now it's the Knoxville News Sentinel.
But they call it Knox News. They do. I'm telling you,
all right, lead, let's go live to our I can
confirm the Roberts Lee. What do we got? It's true. Unfortunate,
(08:44):
it's weird. Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, kiss my ass. It's not unfortunate,
all right, listen, unfortunate. So here's what we got, Um,
these are quotes from Jimmy Haslm. So we have some
game show music here, Lavarn Brady are going to rank
the diss from Jimmy has them to huge Jacks. All right,
So here we go, let's get it started. Let's go
quote Hugh Jackson has never accepted any responsibility for our
(09:09):
record during that time period. He's been masterful of pointing fingers,
but has never accepted any blame. I have accepted a
ton of blame, and rightfully so, there are a lot
of things I could have done better. He was never
accepted blame for one thing, alright, one to eleven ranked
the diss like what I think, it's like a ten.
(09:33):
You know why, because there's truth in what has them said.
And you remember during that period when he was rolling
through coaches like there was like a one year track
record for a while, employees were just beside themselves every
year when he get up and say he's making another change.
But I mean, it's kind of looking on the up
and up now. But he's being honest, like he's he
(09:54):
did take a lot of accountability for their you know,
their their shortcomings. So Brady's got a ten, LaVar's got
a file. I feel like this is a slam dunk
contest where just we've got a ranging score. Yeah, so
all right, Next up, this is the the fun little
game show sweeping the nation. Here it's a rate the
disc from Jimmy Haslum to Hugh Jackson. Here this on
(10:17):
the subject of being paid to lose games or being
compensated to lose. Quote unequivocally, Hugh Jackson was never paid
to lose games. That is an absolute falsehood. And it's
also an absolute falsehood that I laughed while we were losing.
Most people who know me would say, that's not how
Jimmy would react to losing. In the fifteen minute ESPN
(10:41):
interview that he did for approximately fourteen and a half minutes,
it was about how he was treated so poorly with
the Browns and lots of claims he had one to eleven. Okay,
there's more, go ahead, Yes, no, No, that's it. That's
that's it for that. When we're bringing this up into
(11:02):
three parts. Alright, So alright, so here we go. Let's
see if anything can top the first one. He's got
to do better. He's gotta like go, he's gotta go
a little deeper. He's got a little bit live, a
little bit on the edge like this, dude, I'm dissing
on Twitter, like you gotta go a little bit further, man,
you gotta you gotta cut it. That guy speaking of
I don't like letting things go. I don't. I don't.
(11:26):
All right, So here we go. Last one up here,
Jimmy haslum the rank. The diss to Hugh Jackson. I
can't think of any individual that I've worked with over
the past forty five years that I spent as much
time trying to help to be successful as I did
Hugh Jackson. That's an eleven. See, that's what I'm looking for.
(11:48):
You didn't have to go anymore. His third year, that's
the eleven guy. His third year, when our roster began
too pretty dramatically improve the eight games he coached, we
were to five and one. After he was dismissed, we
went five and three twelve. They got extra so we're
going we got extra credit on that one. So now
(12:08):
that is a diss. That's a dissa again, so everybody
understand that's the real diss. That's what I was looking for, right,
That's that's real material good. They can't think of any
individual that I've worked with over the past forty five
years that I spent much time trying to help be
successful as I did. Hugh Jackson. Years his third year,
(12:30):
when our roster begin to pretty dramatically improve the eight
games he coach, who were two and five and one.
After he was dismissed, we went five and three. Bang,
that's a diss. Bang, that's a diss about that. That's
what I was looking. We got, Brady, is that top
year ten from the first one. I would say that's
it probably tops the first one. If I could, if
(12:53):
I could now hearing that, if I could re score it,
I would get him the first one maybe an eight
and this one at ten. That's fine. I mean, that's fair.
But that that's a diss. That's that. That's that that
that's where you when he reads that, when you to
read that, you want that to hurt. Yeah, you wanted
(13:14):
to hurt. Here's the So if you're if you're listening
to the show and you're like, god, it sounds like
something else was going on in the studio. Years if
you were here listening to the shows and you heard it,
and you said, man, it sounds like something else is
going on in the studio when they're trying to play
that game. I wish we had a camera in the
control room. You were correct. And if one of your
(13:35):
guesses was Lee must have blew it the the the
Lee volcano must have erupted heat. Man. Yeah, Roberto was
getting cocky this morning, throwing some softballs over the playoffs.
I decided to bring the heat. Had some bubs big
(13:56):
Boy less what you don't know who Bob's Big Boys.
Big Boy is a you know, cultural icon. Yeah, is
the big Boy. I want you to be honest. Did
you like freshest Big Boy? No, this is Bob's Big Boy.
It's like an old diner, like it's from like the
(14:17):
nineteen fifties, you know out there. Yeah, mel stinks. Uh Lee,
did you have the blue cheese? Of course I had
the cheese. Yeah, That's what the problem was, Um, what's
wrong with you? Why? Why did you continue to do
this to him? Roberto? You know he was he was
rattling him off this morning. So I was on, how
(14:39):
are you deflecting? I mean, you're you're almost like Hugh
Jackson right now. Yeah, yeah, you know I didn't open
the back door. That's what it's just the problem is,
it's like, you know, it's something the biggest studio in
the world, and Roberto kind he's like in the coal
mines man, You're like, you only like I used to like.
(15:02):
It's like we got we had dueling pianos in there,
and everybody's trying to out do the other one. Well done,
uh now, we can't walk in there, all right, Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio. But old,
all right, Roberto, that's right, it's a LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knocks. What do you call Lee's pants? Right now?
(15:22):
Let's say that one? How you say that? Got? All right?
Coming up next and we're going to talk with the
ex We're gonna talk with our NFL insider about some
of these, uh these stories in the NFL involving coaches
and whether or not we could see the Miami Dolphins
(15:43):
have to sell their team. We'll get all the latest
on it right here on fs are be sure to
catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of
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Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio. Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe here, Fox Sports Radio. We got
(16:04):
the b Q News coming up here later on in
the hour, about twenty minutes from now. But right now
we turn it over to one of our guys. He's
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB You can
get him on Twitter at Albert Brier at the Senior Bowl. Now,
how is Mobile, Alabama? Are you diving into some of
the barbecue there? What's the scene? Like, Albert, I'm not
(16:25):
there anymore. Actually, I got my voice is a little rasty,
and a few days I did not wind up going
to Dreamland. Um, I like, I like Dreamline barbecue, but
I did go, like They've got a lot of great
like like Southern style fea food down there. Uh, it's
(16:48):
actually like pretty underrated for that stuff. I mean I
would have just gotten I'll be honest with you, that's
a difference between Albert and myself. I would have just
gotten hammered, hammered every single night out. He wouldn't do that. Hey,
how did you get an opportunity to check out Jesse
Lookeetta while you were watching practices? The defense? The defensive
(17:09):
end linebacker he's asked about. Still I didn't get a
great look at him. No, we don't have bigger things
to talk about. That's why I wanted to throw it
out there quickly. This is way more like a networking
for me want scouting. Well, I watched practice, but I'm
(17:30):
there to gather information and network from the coaches and stuff.
I got you, I got you. Um, did you see
any notre dame guy? I'm just I'm sure I figured out.
Started off with I did see something you said in
regards to the Dolphins and Steven Ross yesterday, and I
want our audience to hear it whether or not this
(17:50):
is legitimate. Did I did I hear you say that?
You think Steven Ross is going to defend this allegation
by Brian Flores about a hundred k per loss by
saying he did say it in a joking manner? Is that?
Did I hear that? Right? Yeah? I mean, like that
was one thing I had sort of heard over the
last couple of days, and you know, discussing obviously what
(18:13):
was in the lawsuit with people. Was that like the
idea that he could say I was joking around. And
I mean, I I mean, look like I don't know
whether or not he said directly to anybody. Um, it's
just one thing I heard that he could that he
could say that he was he was joking about the
hundred thousand dollar payments. And obviously, I mean, bright you
(18:35):
lived down there, like it was a big topic of
discussion for that full year. Um, you know, a lot
of people thought they were tanking, and all the the
transactions over the course that year, Clarion cavs, Thea's building
updraft capital, trading away veterans like makeup Fitzpatrick and Laramy
tunsil Um. You know, I it was obviously a big
topic of discussion in South Florida that entire year, and
(18:59):
so yeah, I mean that was one thing that sort
of you know, I came up over the last couple
of days, was that maybe Stephen Ross would defending himself
in this case by saying that he was joking around
about incentivizing tanking. That could I mean, you want to
follow up on that, Brady, or do we want to
move on from that? I mean you can follow up?
(19:20):
I mean, is that is that wise to even allow
that to to leak out as a leaked out approach
to this? I mean that sounds horrible. I mean, things
a horrible. The whole thing is not good, guys. I mean, like,
crypab I'm wrong, Like and I haven't seen the movie
in a long time, but isn't this like showless show right?
(19:41):
Like I mean, like I don't know, like the difference,
Like I I don't know where there's a huge difference
between this and something like that. And so you know,
if this is legitimate, like if there was incentived to tank, um,
then that's a very serious allegation because all, I mean,
all all any of these sports have and you guys
(20:02):
know this, like all any of these sports have is
that they're played on the level. That's that's what separates
it from professional wrestling, right and so like, I like,
like any sort of accusation like this has to be
taken very very seriously. And look like if there's legitimacy
see to what Brian Flores is accusing Stephen Rossa, Like
(20:23):
I mean, I almost think you have to make him
sell a team Like this is as serious as it gets.
And so um, you know, like obviously like there's this
the main thing, the main point Brian Flores was trying
to get across what's what happened with his personal experience
and what it means um as far as where the
(20:45):
league stands with diversity and the coaching ranks. But I
mean that detail, um in this whole thing, I mean
brings about some very very serious questions. And you know, again,
if if it's legitimate, if the ACT Nations legitimate, Like
then the league has to take a serious look at
Stephen Ross's ownership of the Dolphins. It's Albert Brier, senior
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NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio two Pros and a cup of Joe with
you here on fs are. UM, I want to ask
you about the Doug Peterson higher in Jacksonville. What the
hell happened? What is going on there with Trent baal Ky,
with Byron Leftwich, with candidates not wanting to be a
part of it because of Balky's involvement, Like, like, what
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is the structure there in Jacksonville? And why ultimately was
Doug Peterson the guy? Well, so like this is I mean,
like the most amazing fact, UM, And I want to
give credits. I think it was Tim Calcamie out in
the Bay Area who initially tweeted this um. Trent Balkey's
last five years in the NFL five different head coaches,
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three in San Francisco, two in Jacksonville, and now this
will be a sixth and six years, which is insane, right,
And I think it speaks to why there was a
lot of distrust towards him. I mean, if we're calling
it what it is, and people thought he stabbed Jim
Harbaugh in the back. People thought he stabbed Jim tom
Sewell in the back. People thought he stabbed Dervin Meyer
(22:09):
in the back, and like people thought he stabb Dave Caldwell,
who hired him there, in the back, And like that's why,
you know, head coaching candidates were leary about the idea
of going there, and it speaks to that distrust like
they're only they're only thirty two of these. So the
fact that guys were willing to walk away from an
(22:30):
opportunity to go there, or the chance of an opportunity
to go there, I think speaks volumes about where a
lot of people UH stand with Trent Balky and quite honestly, guys,
Doug Peterson was one of those guys. A couple of
weeks ago, he was the front runner. He fell off
the radar, and I know a lot of people felt
like the reason why was he didn't like the structure
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that was in place there. And so I'm not sure
this is completely over as far as what the front
office is gonna look like. And it'll be really interesting
to see whether or not Doug Peterson was able to
convinced Sean Cohn that he had to bring somebody with him.
If he was gonna be there, there had to be
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another front office guy there. And so you know, Rick
Spielman's name has been thrown around. Rick Spielman and Doug
Peterson sharing agent UM. It'll be interesting to see if
Rick Spielman, the former Vikings GM, comes in and is
paired with UM with with Doug Peterson, because that's that
that would be the one thing that would explain why
Doug Peterson went from really lukewarm interest two weeks ago
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to now being the head coach of the Jaguars. Let
me let me follow up on that and and ask
you in terms of him having trepidation because of the
structure and all of those things you just mentioned, how
much does it play a part and the narratives that
seem to be out there on on the headlines, is
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best decision outside or next or after Byron Leftwich? You're
coming into a situation where we all know how it
ended up and what he had to deal with in
Philadelphia is this Has there anything surfaced or do you
suspect that there may be a surfacing of addressing the
fact that it almost comes as he is the choice
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based upon them not getting who they originally wanted to
bring in and what he represents Byron Leftwich, that is,
to that Jacksonville market. I want, like, I want to
wait before I passed judgment until I can figure out
the complete detail on this, because I mean, I can't
tell you like Adrian Wilson Byron left which are close,
(24:44):
Adrian Wilson is seeing league wide as a very viable
general manager candidate, and so like, it makes sense to
me that Byron would walk away if he couldn't get
the set up he wanted there, and it makes sense
to me that that set up might include Adrian Willis.
And now the next question would be, well, why are
you Rug Peterson Rick Spielman if you wouldn't give Byron
(25:07):
Leftwich um Adrian Wilson. And maybe the answer is that
maybe Byron Leftwich and Adrian Wilson wanted Trent Balky out altogether,
and maybe Doug Peterson wanted Rick Spielman and said we'll
keep Trump Balki in some capacity, but I want Rick
Spielman to be in charge. In other words, maybe you
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make Rick Spielman like the president of Football Operations and
then have Trump Valki working underneath him. That's the only
thing that can make sense because there are so many
moving pieces here, LaVar, where Trent Balki became such a
divisive figure in the search and like how Trump Balki
was going to fit into the organization, whether or not
(25:50):
Trump Dalky was gonna be out of the organization, became
so central to the candidacy if so many of these
candidates and central again into the karnacy. The two guys
that we've been talking about over the last two weeks directly,
and that's Doug Peterson and Byron Leftwich. Albert brierre joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, what happened with
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Jim Harbaugh and the Minnesota Vikings. They didn't give him
an offer? Um, And you know, I don't know if
they game heads up and said you're not getting the job,
and then you know that allowed him to go back
to Michigan and say that he decided to go back
to Michigan and rather than he didn't get the job
in Minnesota. Um. You know, I I don't know like
(26:36):
how that game was played exactly, but I do know
that he wasn't getting an offer in Minnesota, they'd made
the decision to go with Kevin O'Connell and Jim Harbaugh.
Was the announcement that the news coming out that Jim
Harbaugh was going back to Michigan coincided with the Vikings
making calls for the different candidates and telling them that
(26:56):
they were out. And you think Jim Harbora would have
that information because he was in Minnesota that day. So
my guest, and this is just a guess, is Harba
wanted the Minnesota job and wanted back in the NFL
and looked at the Raider job and then saw the
writing of the wall, realized it wasn't happening, and recognized,
(27:18):
I better go make good with Michigan and I go
better make go make this look a certain way so
I can function their highest level possible going back there
in two thousand and twenty two. I'm not sure, guys,
that he won't be in the NFL in twenty or
twenty four. I think what the last two years have
shown us is that he has very real designs on
(27:40):
getting back to the NFL. I can tell you when
they put him through the cake, he was sniffing around
every NFL job he I people talked directly to the
Jets and Chargers, and obviously this year was way more
outward his interest in the Raiders, his interest in the Vikings.
Um and I I also know he wasn't happy about
(28:01):
having to take the pay kind of Michigan a year ago.
So it'll be very interesting seeing where this goes in
Michigan over the course of the next year. But I
think eventually he's back in the NFL. Albert, I just
want to ask you kind of a general question, h
the situation with Brian Flores. What are the next steps?
How does this thing continue on? To the best of
(28:22):
our knowledge, we don't believe that anyone else has joined
his class action lawsuit. Do you expect any other coaches too? Yeah,
I don't know if they'll. I don't know if they will.
Brady Um, you know, I think, you know, Brian Fores
has to be a plot for his courage here. It
took a lot he did. Um. You know, I think
more than anything else, more than this being about a
(28:43):
single case, I think this is and you know, I've
talked to a couple of I'M people who are you know,
really really involved in all of this Over the last
couple of days who've told me that as much as
anything else, this is the frustration level reaching a tipping point.
The reason why there were more job openings across the
(29:03):
NFL than anybody thought that was gonna be this year.
People thought it was me five or six and wound
up being nine. There was also a ton of qualified
minority candidates, guys like where He Morris, Todd Bowles, Leslie Fraser,
Damiko Ryan's, Gerard Mayo like there was a good candidate
pool this year. And so, you know, I think what
Flores is lawsuits sort of signifies is the frustration level
(29:28):
of minority coaches hitting a tipping point. And I think
the way you want to look at this, this is
a change of venue. The way the Rooney rule went
in nineteen years ago. Um, it was under the threat
of litigation. It was Johnny cochlan putting together a report
and threatening a lawsuit against the NFL based on the
fact that they've only been six black head coaches over
(29:51):
the first eighty two years of the NFL. UM So
what the NFL did was they gamed it. They said,
we're gonna take it from the courts into our system
and the NFL system. Nineteen years later. I mean, I
think this is Brian Flores and I think the I
think other minority coaches who are probably involved in the
background saying the NFL system doesn't work, so we have
(30:14):
to take it back into the courts. I don't know
what the endgame is, but I do know that they
feel like they need to put more pressure in the
league and this is one way to do it. Um.
And as for Brian Floores his future, I know a
lot of people have thought like, maybe he'll never coach
in the NFL again. I just don't think that's gonna happen.
I think he's too good a coach, and I think,
you know, he's got too much respect um from the
(30:35):
people who are in that Patriot family and haven't talked
to some of those people in Mobile over the last
couple of days, you know. I I just I can't
imagine that if he wants to coach in the NFL again,
that opportunity won't be afforded to him. I don't think
the death's gonna happen. Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter with the MMQB. Albert always appreciate it.
(30:56):
Get some rest man will do it again next week.
All right, thank you, I said, wen um need senior
questions for me? That last that last response left question
Stephen Ross, the hell are you doing? Dude? Well, I
was joking. That's good. That is, that's not gonna fly
(31:19):
an idiot. One of the things that bothers me about
this whole entire topic with everything going on, is sometimes
people will feel like we're flip flopping because one day
we'll say one thing and the next day we'll say
something else. The reality is is when you find more
information or here norton more you know, and talk to
more people, especially qualified people, it changes your opinion, it
(31:40):
changes how you feel about that's media. That's called media.
That's how it works us flip flock, flopping, back pedal
and shut up. It's called media. Works have confirmation. That's
the opportunity of cracking a mic. Every day. We get
new details every day. Um well, speaking ahead questions on
(32:01):
on the whole floor as going to the legal, legal
side of it, based off of the frustration, if it's
based off of everyone, why didn't everyone do this? Oh? Snap,
guess what I saw? Um? All right, coming up next,
we're going to get into another edition of the b
Q News. Yeah, it's it's a little strange and we'll
(32:24):
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(33:55):
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Quinn all, what do we got. Well, let's just start
off with well, a good old dead Spin article. It
had to be updated. There had to be some redactions
because well as well, as we talked about earlier in
the show. Uh, the run game coordinator for the San
Francisco fort Nighters, Mike vic Daniel. I guess dead Spin
(34:19):
doesn't feel like he's a qualified candidate, so they write
a hit piece on him. Uh and and but they
have to come to realize that he's not just another young,
quote unquote white guy. He actually is by racial They
were unaware. That's a serious miss. Yeah, they had to
update that particular ARTI dead Spin sucks mean the worst,
(34:44):
just the worst, unbelievable, a shame. I don't feel that
bad about it. That's pretty bad. It's good because a
lot of times you your your skin is considered to
be your sin, and it's like it's so noticeable, and
then for you to not get that badge of honor,
(35:05):
that's messed up. Like I was not black enough to
be with my own people in this one, like yeah,
I went, well, well you know, there you go. You
all right? Yeah too. He was a little too light,
a little too lights shown this alright. Um. Any of
you guys got an Apple Watching the Truth? Yeah, yeah,
I do. I don't know how to use it though,
(35:26):
That's why I don't use it. My brother got it
for me for Christmas. I just feel like it will
play tricks on you. Man. I don't know. I don't
want it. I don't know how to use it. Still,
I can't figure Apple watches and TikTok I stay away from. Man.
That's that's that's that's not saying much for your honest
Because one family found out you gotta be careful because
they let their toddler play with their Apple Watch during naptime.
(35:49):
It ended up calling nine one. So when the authorities
showed up, they're a bit surprised by that. So you
gotta be careful about handling our Apple watches to toddlers.
You know what else, you gotta be careful with the
bluetoothe the Bluetooth option, the blue blue tube. But I
don't even know about no bluetooth bluetooth that. You gotta
(36:10):
be very careful with the bluetooth. Didn't that get thrown
on the field and buffalo? Yes? Um, what do you what?
What were you saying about the blueool? I mean you
just gotta be careful with because you may run videos
or music of some sort and it may not be
they may go through the yes. I mean I've just
heard yes that is, and then somebody has to like
(36:32):
call you immediately or text you and say, you know,
you turn your bluetooth off. This is a true story. Yeah,
when so we were listening to uh to the bluetooth,
but I had my in laws were over and they
were making Tamali's and so I put on the Mexican
Christmas Station True story and it was on the bluetooth.
(36:52):
So it was all like Mexican Christmas music and they
we're having a great time. We're having so much fun.
And I had to be careful because you know, we
have a text chain and you know, maybe there might
be some videos or certain things that are sent over.
And I had to make sure that if I wanted
to listen to it, I had to disconnect from the
bluetooth and listen. But just imagine if you have a
hearing that we talked about. But just imagine if you
(37:13):
have forgotten to do it's happened, and I've I've blanked
on the neighbors. Know what's going on here. It's not
my vote. You have a neighbor name of r. Yeah,
cut it off, cut it off, I'll plug it. Okay.
So the New York so this is this is the
first UM, they've announced that admitted pair of male penguins
(37:38):
have become the facilities first same sex penguin couple to
become parents. Okay, how all right? I mean what do
I mean they adopted? How did how did that happen? Back?
I don't know enough about penguins and sea horses can
can get that done? Yeah, I know you're right, horses
can in this case though, I think they UM, I
(38:00):
don't know if they drugged him or what the just
they paired him up together. So I don't know. It's
very good. That's what you're gonna leave us going into
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