May 4, 2022 • 39 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington discuss the Browns QB plan for this season and Baker Mayfield's exit plan. The Old P, Petros Papadakis helps breakdown the Dave Chappelle beat down of his attacker at the Hollywood Bowl, plus a look into USC’s pursuit of Jordan Addison. And another edition of the BQ News.
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fs ARE. So we talked about the situation in Cleveland
with Hugh Jackson, the details coming out over his complaints
with the organization, over his firing and all that, um,
you know, just basically not familiar with the moneyball method,
and UH is still upset about the whole situation. Well,
the current coach in Cleveland, Kevin Stefanski, he's got a
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little bit of a task on his hand. Uh. He's
got three brand new quarterbacks. Oh and they've also got
Baker Mayfield. But he's got three brand new quarterbacks to
the to the Cleveland roster um. And he was talking
yesterday on the fan in Cleveland about having to juggle
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these three new quarterbacks there with the Browns. I just
think it's kind of the nature of it. We really
we don't know, um and that's okay. So we're gonna
work through that as more information becomes available. But ultimately
we're getting three new quarterbacks ready with with the Shawn
and there, Jacobean there and Josh Styles. We've got three
new guys calm plays in the huddle, their three cadences,
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you know, so the guys hearing those voices, so uh,
that that room, there's a lot of learning going on.
There's a ton of teaching going on, and then as
more information comes available, we can determine how we rotate
guys in in training camp and those type of things.
But until we have that information, we're really just in
a holding pattern. So he also talked about the Baker
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Mayfield situation and kind of just just tiptoe tiptoed around
the topic all the way through. UM, Now there was
UM I saw a report out there that the Seattle
Seahawks are are out on Baker Mayfield. That is one
of the reports that is out there. But as it
stands right now, Baker Mayfield is still still still a
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member of the Cleveland Browns. But it does make you wonder,
you know, what, what options are actually available to Acre
Mayfield at this point in his NFL career, Which is
a crazy thought considering this guy I was projected and
talking about long term contract extensions a year ago with
the team it is, and I wonder, looking back on it,
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if it was him who you know, didn't want to
take the deal they had offered him, if it was
the Browns who wanted to see another year, whatever the
case may be. It's fascinating to think about if he
looks back and regrets it, because it's not like under
his rookie deal, playing under his fifth year was gonna
net him a ton of money. You know, he could
have accepted probably a substantial signing bonus and long term
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security if there was a deal offered, which I believe
I remember hearing or reading that there was, but it
wasn't up to the standard of what he thought he
was worth. Now, through this whole offseason, it's been a
really humbling experience and it's probably a case study for
a lot of other quarterbacks who fall into this, this
this situation. Maybe even while you know, Kyler Murray's out
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there saying no, I want a sign now because he's
worried about having to play through a season with injury,
not having a successful season, or maybe they knew all
along DeAndre Hopkins was gonna miss six games. You know,
maybe they've known for that long Kyler Murray and his
agent have and they're like, no, no no, no, we want
to deal now because we don't want to have to
deal with the backlash we're gonna get when he starts
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playing the first six games the season and he's not
playing as well. Very similar to what happened at the
end of last season when he didn't have DeAndre Hopkins. So,
you know, to me, I think you're starting to see,
you know, this situation play out more. And I do
wonder if there's some regret on the side of Baker Mayfield.
But it sounds like Kevin Stefanski maybe co signed on
all this, you know, I don't, I don't know. You know,
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he hasn't howardly said his his feelings on Baker outside
of giving the company line. But in those quotes, you
don't hear him talk about Baker is a part of
the team. And so I guess if we're saying he's
got options, like what are those options? Wait around and
get traded, wait around and get cut, and then you
go sign somewhere else. I mean, I think the one
option that you could say there's a chance, maybe because
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it's the NFL and anything's possible, is that if if
DeShawn Watson gets suspended, the Browns is gonna have to
look in the mirror and say, who gives us the
best chance to win for those first six games or
those first four games, whatever the suspension would end up being.
That's gonna be fascinating to see what he decides to do,
because he might not have a better option elsewhere to
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start and play right away, like that might be its
best option. And then once DeShawn Watson comes back, it
might be a scenario where they're saying to themselves, all right,
now we can trade Baker Mayfield. Maybe he's improved his value.
As crazy as that sounds, it's the NFL never say never.
I just feel like I've heard that said before and
and I feel like that's his only real option outside
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his option. But like you don't think the organization wants that? No,
I mean, and he just Stefanski just said, and he
sounded excited about it. We've got three guys. We got
it that Sean is ready to go, Like we got
to prepare three guys, and you did not include Baker's name.
I just feel like now that becomes more of an
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indictment of of Cleveland, of the coaching staff, of the
front office staff. If you don't release him. Now you've
put yourself in position to say, you know what, regardless
of if Deshon gets a suspension, it's gonna be Dobbs
or Bresset that that gets the Nod, not not Baker.
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So at this point, let it go. Let it go,
move on from Baker Mayfield. Why even if if you
know that you're going to have to absorb uh A
a healthy amount of what it is that Baker's oh
for this year in order to get this done, just
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absorb it and let him go, Because the longer you
you drag it out, it's like, what are you dragging
it out for? Why is he still here? Okay, you're
thinking you might be able to get a trade, there's
no foreseeable trade insight. And even if there were, the
way to make the economics makes sense, they're still gonna
fall on Cleveland to do it. Just let the dude go.
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And I think that now this has to become damage controlled.
The longer you you keep them on your roster, knowing
that you're you've now come out and say it, we're
preparing three quarterbacks, three new quarterbacks that you're very excited about,
and one you paid a whole lot of money to.
Just let it go. So if the starting jobs in
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the NFL have dried up, which you can look around
the possibilities and you know, Diana Rassini was saying, you know,
Seattle is out, Seattle is not interested. That could be them,
you know, trying to throw a smoke screen, like you
need a quarterback. Baker Mayfield by phone away be your
best option, would he not? I I agree, I would
take Baker Mayfield for Drew Lock. I mean, I don't
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even I don't even think that that's close. But let's
just let's just play the game that all right, all
the starting jobs are dried up, all right? So what
are what are the two best options for him? Like,
what are the best options if he wanted to be
a backup somewhere? To me, I think Tampa Bay is
absolutely the place to go. But the price tag on
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he'll get kind of expectations of of what he's going
to want isn't going to to allow for him to
sign with one of these teams to be that person.
Still see, but I think that if he gets cut,
he still gets his eighteen million correct here, Okay, So
so he's going to get the eighteen million. And if
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you go to Tampa, look at what happened to jameis Winston.
I mean, like if you're if you're a betting man,
I would say this is probably Tom Brady's last year
in Tampa Bay, and I think the Baker may if
it's not so what, that's fine too. I just think
if I'm gonna be a back up, I want to
go somewhere that I know has a good roster, that's
that they a solid organization. And if it means taken
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over for allegend trying to get paid, you're at that
point in your career where you're trying to get paid
like this dude is coming out of his first contract,
like he's trying to get that pay day, So what
what does he do do one year contracts? And I
hope that he can, Like, like the payday aspect of
this is really kind of gone, doesn't he gone? Doesn't
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he have to do a little bit of rehab on
his reputation and not that that's a reputation or is
it just he has to do rehab on getting something
done as a starting quarterback in the league and that
might be difficult. He was so injured, Like, I just
don't know how we can judge him as a player
based on the injuries and everything he went through. This
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field went through an injury injury plague season and then
they replace you with Deshaun Watson and paid the They
basically bid against themselves to get him. Maybe Deshaun Watson
know some people that can help him work through some
of these injuries. Hi, there's two spots, um at least
I'll throw into Maybe the Giants. I keep trying to
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tell you, I'm just I'm not a believer in Daniel
Jones and this thing turned around this year for him.
So if I'm if I'm the New York Giants and
he's a free agent, I would be calling him right away. Obviously,
the Seahawks, we talked Tampa. Those are kind of the
three places. The only other spot I would throw in
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there that I think you could make the case it
could be an upgrade is Houston. Houston would be a
spot that I would look at and say, if David
Mills getting it gets hurt, if Davis Mills, you know,
isn't what you know they're hoping he will be, he
would have a shot to go in there and and play,
because that's that's the reality of it. He's not gonna
be able to increase his value and get back to
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what he was valued out a year ago unless he plays.
And it's hard because you can't really be choosy if
there's not many opportunities out there for you, And I mean,
that's that's the truth of the matter. So he's gonna
go find a place where he's gonna potentially have the
shots of play if you compete for a job to
start or in a backup scenario where that starter maybe
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on a short leash when you're not tied to that starter.
And so I think all those teams fall into that category.
Outside of that, I mean, it's tough to know where
where it would end up being or if he's gonna
have any suitors. If I'm Baker may Feel demand a release,
release me, go do a one year deal with Carolina.
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You are guaranteed to get an opportunity to start during
the course of this season. Guarantee maybe they just draft
the Matt Kroll. You are guaranteed an opportunity to start
next season. If I'm Baker Mayfield and I take a
one year contract with Here's here's the problem with a
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one year contract is people are already right now not
trading for him because of that one year contracting the
amount of money they have to pay him. Right and
we've talked about this before, like Cleveland could pick up
or foot the bill for that and then exchange get
a draft round pick out of it, which would be nice, right,
But no one's offered that up so far and it's
not gonna happen, right, So let's say you release him.
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Once he gets released, no teams wnna want to sign
the guy unless it's a really really really minimal deal
for one year. They'd rather have control for two because
in this scenario, if you're Carolina and he's got no
other suitors, you say to him, no, we're not gonna
do a one year deal. If you want to come
here and play, come and play for two years. This
is how much we'll pay you. We'll give you a
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little signing bonus. So that way, he's he's on the
roster for this first year. But if he plays and
he plays well, you could play out another year to
see if he got two years, he's screwed then, because
there's no way Baker Mayfield representation should do that unless
that is literally that absolute last. But but if your team,
you can't tell me a team wouldn't look at him
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and say that to him. I mean, if I'm Carolina
and I drafted a quarterback, I'd say I'll give you
a one year contract, and it has to be a
minimum contract. There's no reason to because why he plays
and he plays well. Yeah, but but you're not gonna trade.
You're not gonna trade a guy that just played well
for you on a what if on a quarterback behind
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him that you drafted in a mid round. I mean,
there's things that we've seen take place with with receivers
this offseason that would say, if you have the top
of the line guys like you're You're Andy, by the way,
you can't trade a guy who was only on a
one year one year yeah, you'd have I mean, you'd
have to obviously re up him, but you have the
franchise that the franchise tag on. And that's the problem
is you get too fast to a franchise complicates, It complicates.
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The only thing they would offer him is a two
year deal, and so they'd have the control to have
him under contract for another year and then you can
play the extension or the franchise tag after that. If
you would play well for those two years, that's crazy, man, Like,
just what a what a wild twelve months for Baker
May I mean, he could in theory go all year
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without being on a team like this theory, this could
actually be a rap for Baker Mayfield's career. Look, he's
he's got to wait around and like it might get
to the point where he's got to wait around for
to be a starter for an injury, has to wait
around for an injury to be a starting quarterback, not
only an injury, but for it to be a significant
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amount of something at stake for them to say we're
not using our backup, We're gonna come bring Baker Mayfield in.
I mean, what what team is that? What team is that?
It's uh, Tampa Bay? But what is it going like?
See again, it comes back to the original conversation of
what just took place with this two year What is
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the deal going to be if you're bringing him in?
That's where the complicatedness of all of this is, what
is the deal with Baker Mayfield? If you have to
bring him in due to an injury? What deal is
being done? Go? It's not anywhere close to what he
was talking about last year at the Browns. I'll tell
you that. That's what deal is Baker Mayfield taking? Go?
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Uh do you what was taking? So it's gonna be
a two year deal minimum? What is? What is? What
do you think gets it done for Baker Mayfield and
his representation to come in And I couldn't tell you
that because I don't know. You know, that's a personal decision,
right because he's gotta look at it, and he's gotta
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say to himself, I'm gonna make eighteen point eight regardless
almost eighteen point nine. So I might be willing to
get cut still getting that money and then double dip.
Now I believe he would still get it. You know,
there's the whole offset language and all that. I have
to look into his contract it. I believe he'd still
get paid regardless the eighteen point nine on top of that.
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So I would say, if he signed a two year deal,
you know, they throw him maybe five million, seven million
up front and then you know, you give a low
based salary over the next two years. That would be
something he'd have to contemplate if he wants a chance
to be on a team and the chance of playing.
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But right now we turn it over to a show favorite. Uh.
Many of you look forward to this moment every single week.
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He is nothing but upbeating positive every time he hops
on with us. He used a great Petros popa acis
the co host of the Petros and Money Show on
the Blowtorch Am five seventy l A Sports also a
Fox College Football analyst The Old P on Twitter Petros.
What's happening? So Hello, Hello, and good morning everybody. Good
morning to you, sir. How's it going? Are you feeling out?
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You know? I'm okay. I guess I was at the
Dodger Uh. Well, I didn't go to the game. I
always leave, but I was there for my show yesterday
and with Matt at Dodger Stadium and that was fun
and exciting. We talked to Justin Turner and some picture
that kept swearing on the air wore out our drop button,
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So that happened. I mean, I at that. What else
is going on? Did you see? Uh? Dave Chappelle was
attacked on stage and I woke up this morning to
see that he was attacked and then he got jumped
and the attacker had a fake weapon with a bayonet attached.
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Uh yeah, and uh so that's assault with a deadly
weapon because of the knife. And Busta Rhymes got some
kicks in on him, who was back there, and Jamie
Fox stomped him out to Rachel and yeah, and even Chappelle,
I think kind of a few kicks in until they
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until they escorted him away. And you just don't see
that anymore. He's pretty swall. I mean he was in uh,
he was in a Finding Forrester. You're on then, Dog,
and did you ever see Finding Forrester? I did. I
don't remember that. Busta Rhymes was the brother. He was
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the brother of the other guy, the basketball get player guy,
and and Sean Connery was a famous writer and f
Mrie Abraham plays the evil Professor, and Sean Connery says,
I do remember that, So yeah, finding it. So it's
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just not often that you see, like not since the
Source Awards in the nineties, that you see just somebody
gets stomped out by fifty dudes on stage. But last
night there it was, and of course, and then everybody
started arguing on Twitter about it being Will Smith's fault.
And then everybody started saying, well, look at all these
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other comedians that have been attacked long before Will Smith
ever slapped Chris Rock. And then somebody said, this is
really a slap in the face to the trans community,
literally because because Chappelle said, this is just what they
say on Twitter. Lavark Chapelle said that joked that it
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was a trans guy that attacked him because that movie,
the one of his arms took a transformation. Yeah, you know,
the old dislocated elbow and uh, It makes me think
about my my own life and experience in football watching
people dislocate their elbows, and sometimes it's an injury where
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it's just really scary, and after the soreness goes away
in a week and a half or so, you can
play again even though it looks like so bad. But
you can also dislocate your elbow much like your knee
and wreck everything while you're doing it on the in
and out, like I think Danny Amendola did that a
few years ago and he missed the rest of the season.
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But when you see a dislocated elbow, it doesn't mean
that guy's arm is ruined forever. Just remember that kids
was that the season he was Dan Olivia Coppo is
I'm telling you, between him and then Christian McCaffrey has
not been healthy since he started dating her. Pets Well,
I heard that she has some crazy grips and moves
that she uses. Uh, you using your momentum against you
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a lot like segal Uh. There are those girls though,
that ondly date the slot receiver types. You know, there's
like a there's like a girl out there, I forget
her name, but she's run through like seven of the
different slot receivers like little white guys in the slot,
in the slot. Leave that alone. What I'm just saying
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all is they made that dude look like a tarantula.
He went from looking like a human too, looking like, uh,
like one of those dancers, you know, an author pod
or of some sort, one of those what is that?
What is that the dancers where they break their contortionists
that they made him look like a contortionists. Yeah, they
beat a task Yeah they did. And speaking of beating ass,
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Jordan Addison, Um, he's he's he's beaten us or beaten
cheeks out of Pittsburgh and seemingly venturing out to the
west coast in these parts of town, southern town. Get
back now now that now that USC has firmly established
free agency and college football, what's uh, what's your opinion
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on what's taking place? Lincoln Riley. You don't even know.
You don't even know. You guys don't even know how
awesome US is. You don't even know how sweet it
is over there right now, there's a sweet's attic. It
must be. It's not Happy Valley. It's what the platforms
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and f t s. It's not it's not South Bend.
It's the land of milk and honey, with manna falling
from the heavens, homeless people fielding punts and practice. Yes,
that doesn't happen anymore, you yeah, I mean that's the thing, guys.
All of this is supposed to erase the past. This
is the great reset button in the history of college football,
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and USC has it all. They have a leader who's
an offensive coach who I will say, actually is what
people say about Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian. He actually
really is a really, really solid and fabulous offensive football
mind that I mean, Brady played for one of those guys,
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and he's a punchline now, Charlie Weiss. So it doesn't
always work like people think. I think USC is gonna
be really good. I really do. But you have to
field a team, and football teams have to know each
other and play together and be on the same page.
It's it's a lot like in some ways these weird
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superstar teams. That's starting to make me think about with
the n b A and how those don't work necessarily.
And the thing about a place like USC, and it's
very similar to where you guys played, is everybody at
USC is a superstar. I don't care if you're playing
for Paul Hackett or Clay Helton. USC's recruiting never really
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fell off that bad, except for one year under Clay Helton.
There was a small class too anyway. Yeah, and their
problem has been player development, clearly. Clearly USC's problem has
been player development, not actually recruiting guys who people think
are gonna be good football players. So you have to
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start developing players if you're USC and have that beat
your main dear program from when they are freshmen too,
when they are ready to leave. And if your USC
and you're doing what people think you're supposed to be doing,
they should be ready to leave in three years. So
that doesn't really jibe with the Addison stuff, Right, He's
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a player that somebody else developed. Uh Die the running
back is a player that somebody else developed. And that's
one thing that concerns me. I think for all of
these teams that are trying to build super teams is
you've got to develop these people through your program because
they have to be broken down. Like everybody comes to
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Notre Dame, Penn State, USC, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. You know,
any of these schools. Everybody comes to those schools as
a superstar from their hometown. They are a god in
their bubble, and it is a very humbling experience when
you get to college and you realize that these are bigger, stronger,
faster guys and you have to be broken down and
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rebuilt up in the image of that football team. Now,
a lot of football teams have good culture and they
can absorb transfers, and we've sort of seen this flourish
in the last few years. But for every story that
works out, there's four or five that don't. And I
just think that, yeah, right, I mean, this is what
his this is his fifth transfer or something like that. Seriously,
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you know what I mean. So so for these kind
of things, I uh, I always try to temper people's enthusiasm. Now,
and it's fun for Colin Cowhern to put on his
outfit and lead the parade. He couldn't stand up he
was so excited. I mean, I know he sits down
for most of his show, but you had Some would
say when he talks about us, he he just looks
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like one big donkey d but some I don't say that,
but I would never did I ask you this Petros.
But you know what I'm saying. You guys understand what
I'm saying. Just bringing in a bunch of guys who
somebody else has developed and saying yeah, rolling the ball
out and saying, hey, go run go run a y stick.
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Uh well, let's see how that works out. Hey, Petros,
do you view college football and having a problem, whether
it's in I L transfer port anything right now? And
and and if so, like, is is there a fix
in your mind with any of this? I mean, I
think without the transfer portal part of that question, I
think you could have been asking me that question in
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the fifties. You know, don't you feel that's that's having
a problem. Yeah, I mean it's it's always had a problem.
I mean, there's always something to bitch about, complain about,
and argue about when it comes to college football, and
whatever generation is arguing, it's always catastrophic, right, I mean,
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it's always a catastrophe. It's gonna end because of blank
you know, because of the coaches moving, because of the
disparity in uh stipend checks between Kansas State and the
University of Southern California or city schools. It's gonna end
because of the BCS. It's gonna end because we don't
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have a BCS. It's gonna end because of the playoff.
It's gonna end because the transfer portal, because of the
n i L, because of Pro Football, because the USFL.
I mean, there's always something threatening college football. The games
are too long, you know, it's always in peril, and
that is part of the appeal. Uh, There's always something
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to argue about and to be passionate about. And so
I think that it does sort of correct itself in
a very haphazard way, I guess, or clumsy way. It
always swings back and corrects itself and finds a way
to move. But I think the n i L and
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the transfer portal and all of the things the seismic
moving with the conference shifting. That was another one. You know,
college football is over as we know it because the
conferences are moving, and I remember the Southwest Conference. You
know a lot of people do. So there's always been
I mean, the only constant in college football has been
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massive change. And I think what this is moving us
toward is whatever college football looks like without the n
c double as governance, because I think it's grown way
beyond that. There's billions of dollars involved everywhere. Now, Uh,
the live TV revenue is just it's just too much
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and too popular and too many brands to go under
that very very antiquated umbrella. So I do think, you know,
college football is moving towards like like they have with
the College Football Playoff, which I don't necessarily like because
of the ESPN involvement in control. But you're gonna be
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going for outside entities. You know, the trophy to win
college football is not an n C double a trophy,
and that might be the case, you know, with a
lot of these conferences and and how things change, that's
probably where we're moving. But I don't think we're in peril.
As long as there's something to argue about, we'll have it.
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It's Wednesday Trying Through a Florida edition, and it starts
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are arrested after guests at their weddings say the food
was laced with cannabis. That's right. It's actually bodycam footage
from the police officer talking to some of the people
being loaded up in the pattiwagon, obviously filling the effects
of having food laced with their want out. Maybe they
would have rolled it in Longwood, Florida. How do you now?
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How do you? What do you? What do you do
to to Lacey? You just sprinkle stuff in. In this
protecular particular case, they did have a piece of lasagna
that was tested and they did uh it tested positive
for tested positive the gas door food tested positive for
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performance and then when's the when's the last time you
guys had lasagna? J Hopkins last night? Hopkins has a deal.
He has he has uh, he's got a case. Now
this was p DS, this is this would be a
street drug. But even then they've lowered the threshold. But
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you know they might have made some some steroid butter,
you know what I mean. Brady Quinn the Italian on
the show, what is the Where does lasagna rank? And
your Italian favorites? Because I know chicken parm is number one?
How far did we get to lasagna? Pretty far down?
It used to be I think number one, and then
as I've gotten older, it's just it's a lot. It's
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it's like it's like eating a brick of Italian great way,
but it is so good, like shout out to the
o g Olive Garden. I do remember getting their tour
of Italy back in the day when they had it
and used to get like three things that it was
a chicken palm and then something else that went along
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with it along with the endless salad and breadsticks. Remember
how about this? In college? So I used to work
like one day a week, and I try to take
the lineman out to eat one day a week, and
so I'd have like eighty bucks to like spend on it, right,
and we would ended up going to the Olive Garden
for the never ending bull of pasta. We'd be there
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for like three and a half hours. Eventually the manager
was like, look, we can't keep doing this. You gotta
find somewhere else to go. You gotta had up a
big table too long. So we started going to Bruno's
and then Brunos was our spot. They helped us out,
but no, get all right, we've got a call. There's
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there's trouble in the beer section of this particular grocery store.
The Florida man was caught taking a leak in the
store's beer cave, obviously caught on camera. Is I mean,
as a kid, I used to think it was the
coolest thing where they have that like big cave or cooler.
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You'd go into it. You'd be all cold in there,
but you see all the beer and everything else. And
then as you got older, you're like, it's awesome because
you can grab nice twelve pack, take it home or whatever.
It's it's always chilled for the most part, even when
it gets home. But I would never disrespect the beer cave.
Take a leak in there. Yeah that that's uh, that's insulting,
classic conditioning. Man Like that person saw something that reminded
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him of when he really had to go really really
really really really bad and beer was involved in the
garden was involved and he couldn't control himself. Now was
he sober like Pavlov's dog? I mean, was he what? Like?
Was he sober? It doesn't state whether he was sober
or not. I'm inclined to think that the reason why
he was in the beer cave is because he was
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drunk and he was trying to get more alcohol. I
would be willing to bet that he was under hypnosis
when this took place, So not drunk, just hypnosis. Well,
maybe drunk too interested hypnotized, that's interesting. Yeah, okay, And
I never thought to urnad on the floor of a
supermar because you weren't hypnotized. Yeah, you know, I could
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someone's doorstep or something else. Instead, I chose to go
with the highly educated, church going businesswoman who got caught
for hiring a hitman to kill her ex boyfriend. I mean,
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you know boyfriend, Yeah, I mean if you got the
money and you know she didn't want to do the
job herself. I mean she's looking at off. But while
you trying to off the X, like he's the X.
You gotta let the X go to try to go
on the dark dark Web. Death by shooting was listed
as five, death by sniper was and up beating. Death
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fs ARE. So we talked about the situation in Cleveland
with Hugh Jackson, the details coming out over his complaints
with the organization, over his firing and all that, um,
you know, just basically not familiar with the moneyball method,
and UH is still upset about the whole situation. Well,
the current coach in Cleveland, Kevin Stefanski, he's got a
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little bit of a task on his hand. Uh. He's
got three brand new quarterbacks. Oh and they've also got
Baker Mayfield. But he's got three brand new quarterbacks to
the to the Cleveland roster um. And he was talking
yesterday on the fan in Cleveland about having to juggle
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these three new quarterbacks there with the Browns. I just
think it's kind of the nature of it. We really
we don't know, um and that's okay. So we're gonna
work through that as more information becomes available. But ultimately
we're getting three new quarterbacks ready with with the Shawn
and there, Jacobean there and Josh Styles. We've got three
new guys calm plays in the huddle, their three cadences,
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you know, so the guys hearing those voices, so uh,
that that room, there's a lot of learning going on.
There's a ton of teaching going on, and then as
more information comes available, we can determine how we rotate
guys in in training camp and those type of things.
But until we have that information, we're really just in
a holding pattern. So he also talked about the Baker
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Mayfield situation and kind of just just tiptoe tiptoed around
the topic all the way through. UM, Now there was
UM I saw a report out there that the Seattle
Seahawks are are out on Baker Mayfield. That is one
of the reports that is out there. But as it
stands right now, Baker Mayfield is still still still a
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member of the Cleveland Browns. But it does make you wonder,
you know, what, what options are actually available to Acre
Mayfield at this point in his NFL career, Which is
a crazy thought considering this guy I was projected and
talking about long term contract extensions a year ago with
the team it is, and I wonder, looking back on it,
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if it was him who you know, didn't want to
take the deal they had offered him, if it was
the Browns who wanted to see another year, whatever the
case may be. It's fascinating to think about if he
looks back and regrets it, because it's not like under
his rookie deal, playing under his fifth year was gonna
net him a ton of money. You know, he could
have accepted probably a substantial signing bonus and long term
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security if there was a deal offered, which I believe
I remember hearing or reading that there was, but it
wasn't up to the standard of what he thought he
was worth. Now, through this whole offseason, it's been a
really humbling experience and it's probably a case study for
a lot of other quarterbacks who fall into this, this
this situation. Maybe even while you know, Kyler Murray's out
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there saying no, I want a sign now because he's
worried about having to play through a season with injury,
not having a successful season, or maybe they knew all
along DeAndre Hopkins was gonna miss six games. You know,
maybe they've known for that long Kyler Murray and his
agent have and they're like, no, no no, no, we want
to deal now because we don't want to have to
deal with the backlash we're gonna get when he starts
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playing the first six games the season and he's not
playing as well. Very similar to what happened at the
end of last season when he didn't have DeAndre Hopkins. So,
you know, to me, I think you're starting to see,
you know, this situation play out more. And I do
wonder if there's some regret on the side of Baker Mayfield.
But it sounds like Kevin Stefanski maybe co signed on
all this, you know, I don't, I don't know. You know,
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he hasn't howardly said his his feelings on Baker outside
of giving the company line. But in those quotes, you
don't hear him talk about Baker is a part of
the team. And so I guess if we're saying he's
got options, like what are those options? Wait around and
get traded, wait around and get cut, and then you
go sign somewhere else. I mean, I think the one
option that you could say there's a chance, maybe because
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it's the NFL and anything's possible, is that if if
DeShawn Watson gets suspended, the Browns is gonna have to
look in the mirror and say, who gives us the
best chance to win for those first six games or
those first four games, whatever the suspension would end up being.
That's gonna be fascinating to see what he decides to do,
because he might not have a better option elsewhere to
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start and play right away, like that might be its
best option. And then once DeShawn Watson comes back, it
might be a scenario where they're saying to themselves, all right,
now we can trade Baker Mayfield. Maybe he's improved his value.
As crazy as that sounds, it's the NFL never say never.
I just feel like I've heard that said before and
and I feel like that's his only real option outside
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his option. But like you don't think the organization wants that? No,
I mean, and he just Stefanski just said, and he
sounded excited about it. We've got three guys. We got
it that Sean is ready to go, Like we got
to prepare three guys, and you did not include Baker's name.
I just feel like now that becomes more of an
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indictment of of Cleveland, of the coaching staff, of the
front office staff. If you don't release him. Now you've
put yourself in position to say, you know what, regardless
of if Deshon gets a suspension, it's gonna be Dobbs
or Bresset that that gets the Nod, not not Baker.
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So at this point, let it go. Let it go,
move on from Baker Mayfield. Why even if if you
know that you're going to have to absorb uh A
a healthy amount of what it is that Baker's oh
for this year in order to get this done, just
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absorb it and let him go, Because the longer you
you drag it out, it's like, what are you dragging
it out for? Why is he still here? Okay, you're
thinking you might be able to get a trade, there's
no foreseeable trade insight. And even if there were, the
way to make the economics makes sense, they're still gonna
fall on Cleveland to do it. Just let the dude go.
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And I think that now this has to become damage controlled.
The longer you you keep them on your roster, knowing
that you're you've now come out and say it, we're
preparing three quarterbacks, three new quarterbacks that you're very excited about,
and one you paid a whole lot of money to.
Just let it go. So if the starting jobs in
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the NFL have dried up, which you can look around
the possibilities and you know, Diana Rassini was saying, you know,
Seattle is out, Seattle is not interested. That could be them,
you know, trying to throw a smoke screen, like you
need a quarterback. Baker Mayfield by phone away be your
best option, would he not? I I agree, I would
take Baker Mayfield for Drew Lock. I mean, I don't
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even I don't even think that that's close. But let's
just let's just play the game that all right, all
the starting jobs are dried up, all right? So what
are what are the two best options for him? Like,
what are the best options if he wanted to be
a backup somewhere? To me, I think Tampa Bay is
absolutely the place to go. But the price tag on
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he'll get kind of expectations of of what he's going
to want isn't going to to allow for him to
sign with one of these teams to be that person.
Still see, but I think that if he gets cut,
he still gets his eighteen million correct here, Okay, So
so he's going to get the eighteen million. And if
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you go to Tampa, look at what happened to jameis Winston.
I mean, like if you're if you're a betting man,
I would say this is probably Tom Brady's last year
in Tampa Bay, and I think the Baker may if
it's not so what, that's fine too. I just think
if I'm gonna be a back up, I want to
go somewhere that I know has a good roster, that's
that they a solid organization. And if it means taken
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over for allegend trying to get paid, you're at that
point in your career where you're trying to get paid
like this dude is coming out of his first contract,
like he's trying to get that pay day, So what
what does he do do one year contracts? And I
hope that he can, Like, like the payday aspect of
this is really kind of gone, doesn't he gone? Doesn't
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he have to do a little bit of rehab on
his reputation and not that that's a reputation or is
it just he has to do rehab on getting something
done as a starting quarterback in the league and that
might be difficult. He was so injured, Like, I just
don't know how we can judge him as a player
based on the injuries and everything he went through. This
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field went through an injury injury plague season and then
they replace you with Deshaun Watson and paid the They
basically bid against themselves to get him. Maybe Deshaun Watson
know some people that can help him work through some
of these injuries. Hi, there's two spots, um at least
I'll throw into Maybe the Giants. I keep trying to
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tell you, I'm just I'm not a believer in Daniel
Jones and this thing turned around this year for him.
So if I'm if I'm the New York Giants and
he's a free agent, I would be calling him right away. Obviously,
the Seahawks, we talked Tampa. Those are kind of the
three places. The only other spot I would throw in
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there that I think you could make the case it
could be an upgrade is Houston. Houston would be a
spot that I would look at and say, if David
Mills getting it gets hurt, if Davis Mills, you know,
isn't what you know they're hoping he will be, he
would have a shot to go in there and and play,
because that's that's the reality of it. He's not gonna
be able to increase his value and get back to
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what he was valued out a year ago unless he plays.
And it's hard because you can't really be choosy if
there's not many opportunities out there for you, And I mean,
that's that's the truth of the matter. So he's gonna
go find a place where he's gonna potentially have the
shots of play if you compete for a job to
start or in a backup scenario where that starter maybe
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on a short leash when you're not tied to that starter.
And so I think all those teams fall into that category.
Outside of that, I mean, it's tough to know where
where it would end up being or if he's gonna
have any suitors. If I'm Baker may Feel demand a release,
release me, go do a one year deal with Carolina.
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You are guaranteed to get an opportunity to start during
the course of this season. Guarantee maybe they just draft
the Matt Kroll. You are guaranteed an opportunity to start
next season. If I'm Baker Mayfield and I take a
one year contract with Here's here's the problem with a
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one year contract is people are already right now not
trading for him because of that one year contracting the
amount of money they have to pay him. Right and
we've talked about this before, like Cleveland could pick up
or foot the bill for that and then exchange get
a draft round pick out of it, which would be nice, right,
But no one's offered that up so far and it's
not gonna happen, right, So let's say you release him.
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Once he gets released, no teams wnna want to sign
the guy unless it's a really really really minimal deal
for one year. They'd rather have control for two because
in this scenario, if you're Carolina and he's got no
other suitors, you say to him, no, we're not gonna
do a one year deal. If you want to come
here and play, come and play for two years. This
is how much we'll pay you. We'll give you a
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little signing bonus. So that way, he's he's on the
roster for this first year. But if he plays and
he plays well, you could play out another year to
see if he got two years, he's screwed then, because
there's no way Baker Mayfield representation should do that unless
that is literally that absolute last. But but if your team,
you can't tell me a team wouldn't look at him
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and say that to him. I mean, if I'm Carolina
and I drafted a quarterback, I'd say I'll give you
a one year contract, and it has to be a
minimum contract. There's no reason to because why he plays
and he plays well. Yeah, but but you're not gonna trade.
You're not gonna trade a guy that just played well
for you on a what if on a quarterback behind
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him that you drafted in a mid round. I mean,
there's things that we've seen take place with with receivers
this offseason that would say, if you have the top
of the line guys like you're You're Andy, by the way,
you can't trade a guy who was only on a
one year one year yeah, you'd have I mean, you'd
have to obviously re up him, but you have the
franchise that the franchise tag on. And that's the problem
is you get too fast to a franchise complicates, It complicates.
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The only thing they would offer him is a two
year deal, and so they'd have the control to have
him under contract for another year and then you can
play the extension or the franchise tag after that. If
you would play well for those two years, that's crazy, man, Like,
just what a what a wild twelve months for Baker
May I mean, he could in theory go all year
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without being on a team like this theory, this could
actually be a rap for Baker Mayfield's career. Look, he's
he's got to wait around and like it might get
to the point where he's got to wait around for
to be a starter for an injury, has to wait
around for an injury to be a starting quarterback, not
only an injury, but for it to be a significant
(14:38):
amount of something at stake for them to say we're
not using our backup, We're gonna come bring Baker Mayfield in.
I mean, what what team is that? What team is that?
It's uh, Tampa Bay? But what is it going like?
See again, it comes back to the original conversation of
what just took place with this two year What is
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the deal going to be if you're bringing him in?
That's where the complicatedness of all of this is, what
is the deal with Baker Mayfield? If you have to
bring him in due to an injury? What deal is
being done? Go? It's not anywhere close to what he
was talking about last year at the Browns. I'll tell
you that. That's what deal is Baker Mayfield taking? Go?
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Uh do you what was taking? So it's gonna be
a two year deal minimum? What is? What is? What
do you think gets it done for Baker Mayfield and
his representation to come in And I couldn't tell you
that because I don't know. You know, that's a personal decision,
right because he's gotta look at it, and he's gotta
(15:43):
say to himself, I'm gonna make eighteen point eight regardless
almost eighteen point nine. So I might be willing to
get cut still getting that money and then double dip.
Now I believe he would still get it. You know,
there's the whole offset language and all that. I have
to look into his contract it. I believe he'd still
get paid regardless the eighteen point nine on top of that.
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So I would say, if he signed a two year deal,
you know, they throw him maybe five million, seven million
up front and then you know, you give a low
based salary over the next two years. That would be
something he'd have to contemplate if he wants a chance
to be on a team and the chance of playing.
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But right now we turn it over to a show favorite. Uh.
Many of you look forward to this moment every single week.
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He is nothing but upbeating positive every time he hops
on with us. He used a great Petros popa acis
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Fox College Football analyst The Old P on Twitter Petros.
What's happening? So Hello, Hello, and good morning everybody. Good
morning to you, sir. How's it going? Are you feeling out?
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You know? I'm okay. I guess I was at the
Dodger Uh. Well, I didn't go to the game. I
always leave, but I was there for my show yesterday
and with Matt at Dodger Stadium and that was fun
and exciting. We talked to Justin Turner and some picture
that kept swearing on the air wore out our drop button,
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So that happened. I mean, I at that. What else
is going on? Did you see? Uh? Dave Chappelle was
attacked on stage and I woke up this morning to
see that he was attacked and then he got jumped
and the attacker had a fake weapon with a bayonet attached.
(18:17):
Uh yeah, and uh so that's assault with a deadly
weapon because of the knife. And Busta Rhymes got some
kicks in on him, who was back there, and Jamie
Fox stomped him out to Rachel and yeah, and even Chappelle,
I think kind of a few kicks in until they
(18:37):
until they escorted him away. And you just don't see
that anymore. He's pretty swall. I mean he was in uh,
he was in a Finding Forrester. You're on then, Dog,
and did you ever see Finding Forrester? I did. I
don't remember that. Busta Rhymes was the brother. He was
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the brother of the other guy, the basketball get player guy,
and and Sean Connery was a famous writer and f
Mrie Abraham plays the evil Professor, and Sean Connery says,
I do remember that, So yeah, finding it. So it's
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just not often that you see, like not since the
Source Awards in the nineties, that you see just somebody
gets stomped out by fifty dudes on stage. But last
night there it was, and of course, and then everybody
started arguing on Twitter about it being Will Smith's fault.
And then everybody started saying, well, look at all these
(19:45):
other comedians that have been attacked long before Will Smith
ever slapped Chris Rock. And then somebody said, this is
really a slap in the face to the trans community,
literally because because Chappelle said, this is just what they
say on Twitter. Lavark Chapelle said that joked that it
(20:06):
was a trans guy that attacked him because that movie,
the one of his arms took a transformation. Yeah, you know,
the old dislocated elbow and uh, It makes me think
about my my own life and experience in football watching
people dislocate their elbows, and sometimes it's an injury where
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it's just really scary, and after the soreness goes away
in a week and a half or so, you can
play again even though it looks like so bad. But
you can also dislocate your elbow much like your knee
and wreck everything while you're doing it on the in
and out, like I think Danny Amendola did that a
few years ago and he missed the rest of the season.
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But when you see a dislocated elbow, it doesn't mean
that guy's arm is ruined forever. Just remember that kids
was that the season he was Dan Olivia Coppo is
I'm telling you, between him and then Christian McCaffrey has
not been healthy since he started dating her. Pets Well,
I heard that she has some crazy grips and moves
that she uses. Uh, you using your momentum against you
(21:15):
a lot like segal Uh. There are those girls though,
that ondly date the slot receiver types. You know, there's
like a there's like a girl out there, I forget
her name, but she's run through like seven of the
different slot receivers like little white guys in the slot,
in the slot. Leave that alone. What I'm just saying
(21:36):
all is they made that dude look like a tarantula.
He went from looking like a human too, looking like, uh,
like one of those dancers, you know, an author pod
or of some sort, one of those what is that?
What is that the dancers where they break their contortionists
that they made him look like a contortionists. Yeah, they
beat a task Yeah they did. And speaking of beating ass,
(21:58):
Jordan Addison, Um, he's he's he's beaten us or beaten
cheeks out of Pittsburgh and seemingly venturing out to the
west coast in these parts of town, southern town. Get
back now now that now that USC has firmly established
free agency and college football, what's uh, what's your opinion
(22:22):
on what's taking place? Lincoln Riley. You don't even know.
You don't even know. You guys don't even know how
awesome US is. You don't even know how sweet it
is over there right now, there's a sweet's attic. It
must be. It's not Happy Valley. It's what the platforms
(22:46):
and f t s. It's not it's not South Bend.
It's the land of milk and honey, with manna falling
from the heavens, homeless people fielding punts and practice. Yes,
that doesn't happen anymore, you yeah, I mean that's the thing, guys.
All of this is supposed to erase the past. This
is the great reset button in the history of college football,
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and USC has it all. They have a leader who's
an offensive coach who I will say, actually is what
people say about Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian. He actually
really is a really, really solid and fabulous offensive football
mind that I mean, Brady played for one of those guys,
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and he's a punchline now, Charlie Weiss. So it doesn't
always work like people think. I think USC is gonna
be really good. I really do. But you have to
field a team, and football teams have to know each
other and play together and be on the same page.
It's it's a lot like in some ways these weird
(23:54):
superstar teams. That's starting to make me think about with
the n b A and how those don't work necessarily.
And the thing about a place like USC, and it's
very similar to where you guys played, is everybody at
USC is a superstar. I don't care if you're playing
for Paul Hackett or Clay Helton. USC's recruiting never really
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fell off that bad, except for one year under Clay Helton.
There was a small class too anyway. Yeah, and their
problem has been player development, clearly. Clearly USC's problem has
been player development, not actually recruiting guys who people think
are gonna be good football players. So you have to
(24:37):
start developing players if you're USC and have that beat
your main dear program from when they are freshmen too,
when they are ready to leave. And if your USC
and you're doing what people think you're supposed to be doing,
they should be ready to leave in three years. So
that doesn't really jibe with the Addison stuff, Right, He's
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a player that somebody else developed. Uh Die the running
back is a player that somebody else developed. And that's
one thing that concerns me. I think for all of
these teams that are trying to build super teams is
you've got to develop these people through your program because
they have to be broken down. Like everybody comes to
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Notre Dame, Penn State, USC, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. You know,
any of these schools. Everybody comes to those schools as
a superstar from their hometown. They are a god in
their bubble, and it is a very humbling experience when
you get to college and you realize that these are bigger, stronger,
faster guys and you have to be broken down and
(25:44):
rebuilt up in the image of that football team. Now,
a lot of football teams have good culture and they
can absorb transfers, and we've sort of seen this flourish
in the last few years. But for every story that
works out, there's four or five that don't. And I
just think that, yeah, right, I mean, this is what
his this is his fifth transfer or something like that. Seriously,
(26:08):
you know what I mean. So so for these kind
of things, I uh, I always try to temper people's enthusiasm. Now,
and it's fun for Colin Cowhern to put on his
outfit and lead the parade. He couldn't stand up he
was so excited. I mean, I know he sits down
for most of his show, but you had Some would
say when he talks about us, he he just looks
(26:29):
like one big donkey d but some I don't say that,
but I would never did I ask you this Petros.
But you know what I'm saying. You guys understand what
I'm saying. Just bringing in a bunch of guys who
somebody else has developed and saying yeah, rolling the ball
out and saying, hey, go run go run a y stick.
(26:51):
Uh well, let's see how that works out. Hey, Petros,
do you view college football and having a problem, whether
it's in I L transfer port anything right now? And
and and if so, like, is is there a fix
in your mind with any of this? I mean, I
think without the transfer portal part of that question, I
think you could have been asking me that question in
(27:11):
the fifties. You know, don't you feel that's that's having
a problem. Yeah, I mean it's it's always had a problem.
I mean, there's always something to bitch about, complain about,
and argue about when it comes to college football, and
whatever generation is arguing, it's always catastrophic, right, I mean,
(27:31):
it's always a catastrophe. It's gonna end because of blank
you know, because of the coaches moving, because of the
disparity in uh stipend checks between Kansas State and the
University of Southern California or city schools. It's gonna end
because of the BCS. It's gonna end because we don't
(27:53):
have a BCS. It's gonna end because of the playoff.
It's gonna end because the transfer portal, because of the
n i L, because of Pro Football, because the USFL.
I mean, there's always something threatening college football. The games
are too long, you know, it's always in peril, and
that is part of the appeal. Uh, There's always something
(28:15):
to argue about and to be passionate about. And so
I think that it does sort of correct itself in
a very haphazard way, I guess, or clumsy way. It
always swings back and corrects itself and finds a way
to move. But I think the n i L and
(28:36):
the transfer portal and all of the things the seismic
moving with the conference shifting. That was another one. You know,
college football is over as we know it because the
conferences are moving, and I remember the Southwest Conference. You
know a lot of people do. So there's always been
I mean, the only constant in college football has been
(28:57):
massive change. And I think what this is moving us
toward is whatever college football looks like without the n
c double as governance, because I think it's grown way
beyond that. There's billions of dollars involved everywhere. Now, Uh,
the live TV revenue is just it's just too much
(29:20):
and too popular and too many brands to go under
that very very antiquated umbrella. So I do think, you know,
college football is moving towards like like they have with
the College Football Playoff, which I don't necessarily like because
of the ESPN involvement in control. But you're gonna be
(29:42):
going for outside entities. You know, the trophy to win
college football is not an n C double a trophy,
and that might be the case, you know, with a
lot of these conferences and and how things change, that's
probably where we're moving. But I don't think we're in peril.
As long as there's something to argue about, we'll have it.
Get him on Twitter at the Old p Petro's Papa
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Egg is co host of The Petros and Money Show
on A and five seventy l A Sports Fox college
football analysts and our good buddy every single Wednesday morning. Petros.
We appreciate it, man, we'll do it again next week.
Sorry to get a philosophical like a pac van there
at the end. That's all right, what do we got?
We got our shots. Yeah, come on, petros yet, donkey
(30:28):
your side, my side, nerds, cools, man, it's all bs.
It's hard enough just to be yourself, you know, Sean
Connery quote again, Yeah you're oh sorry. Do you ever
just look in the mirror and talk like Sean Connery
or try It's it's very gratifying. You can pull it off. Well,
(30:50):
some of us can, as we age. We all care,
no dog, let's I mean, like, what does Mike Bone
think of that impression? You don't even go, you don't
even know. Oh man, he will do it again next week. Man,
(31:14):
al right, the first just real, Yeah it is. He's
the best. Congrats on your receiver from my home town
is a biting ward out though, hey little hands pick
it left, you know, he guy, he probably seeks the
other quarterback. Sucked, man, Slovis is the other quarterbacks. Yeah,
(31:35):
he's all wrapped up with a soccer girlfriend out there.
That's right, that's right. I like loving football. I love
loving football. I love young love between Slov's and the
soccer player. It's beautiful, so good. Right now they're waking
up in Pittsburgh looking at each other and they're just
kicking it. Oh, just having a great any brothers, you
(31:56):
get it. They're just get a big post for a
Willie stargel over there, Oh big Willie, Willie Man get
him on Twitter at the Old p there is Petros
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go to the news test. What new? Here's Brady Quinn. Yea.
It's Wednesday Trying Through a Florida edition, and it starts
off in Longwood, Florida, where a bride and a caterer
(33:43):
are arrested after guests at their weddings say the food
was laced with cannabis. That's right. It's actually bodycam footage
from the police officer talking to some of the people
being loaded up in the pattiwagon, obviously filling the effects
of having food laced with their want out. Maybe they
would have rolled it in Longwood, Florida. How do you now?
(34:07):
How do you? What do you? What do you do
to to Lacey? You just sprinkle stuff in. In this
protecular particular case, they did have a piece of lasagna
that was tested and they did uh it tested positive
for tested positive the gas door food tested positive for
(34:28):
performance and then when's the when's the last time you
guys had lasagna? J Hopkins last night? Hopkins has a deal.
He has he has uh, he's got a case. Now
this was p DS, this is this would be a
street drug. But even then they've lowered the threshold. But
(34:48):
you know they might have made some some steroid butter,
you know what I mean. Brady Quinn the Italian on
the show, what is the Where does lasagna rank? And
your Italian favorites? Because I know chicken parm is number one?
How far did we get to lasagna? Pretty far down?
It used to be I think number one, and then
as I've gotten older, it's just it's a lot. It's
(35:11):
it's like it's like eating a brick of Italian great way,
but it is so good, like shout out to the
o g Olive Garden. I do remember getting their tour
of Italy back in the day when they had it
and used to get like three things that it was
a chicken palm and then something else that went along
(35:31):
with it along with the endless salad and breadsticks. Remember
how about this? In college? So I used to work
like one day a week, and I try to take
the lineman out to eat one day a week, and
so I'd have like eighty bucks to like spend on it, right,
and we would ended up going to the Olive Garden
for the never ending bull of pasta. We'd be there
(35:52):
for like three and a half hours. Eventually the manager
was like, look, we can't keep doing this. You gotta
find somewhere else to go. You gotta had up a
big table too long. So we started going to Bruno's
and then Brunos was our spot. They helped us out,
but no, get all right, we've got a call. There's
(36:16):
there's trouble in the beer section of this particular grocery store.
The Florida man was caught taking a leak in the
store's beer cave, obviously caught on camera. Is I mean,
as a kid, I used to think it was the
coolest thing where they have that like big cave or cooler.
(36:37):
You'd go into it. You'd be all cold in there,
but you see all the beer and everything else. And
then as you got older, you're like, it's awesome because
you can grab nice twelve pack, take it home or whatever.
It's it's always chilled for the most part, even when
it gets home. But I would never disrespect the beer cave.
Take a leak in there. Yeah that that's uh, that's insulting,
classic conditioning. Man Like that person saw something that reminded
(37:01):
him of when he really had to go really really
really really really bad and beer was involved in the
garden was involved and he couldn't control himself. Now was
he sober like Pavlov's dog? I mean, was he what? Like?
Was he sober? It doesn't state whether he was sober
or not. I'm inclined to think that the reason why
he was in the beer cave is because he was
(37:22):
drunk and he was trying to get more alcohol. I
would be willing to bet that he was under hypnosis
when this took place, So not drunk, just hypnosis. Well,
maybe drunk too interested hypnotized, that's interesting. Yeah, okay, And
I never thought to urnad on the floor of a
supermar because you weren't hypnotized. Yeah, you know, I could
(37:43):
have thrown in a bunch of stories about alligators as
I was coming through the Florida News that I could
read to you guys. I swear to God, like six
out of every ten articles were about an alligator at
someone's doorstep or something else. Instead, I chose to go
with the highly educated, church going businesswoman who got caught
for hiring a hitman to kill her ex boyfriend. I mean,
(38:05):
you know boyfriend, Yeah, I mean if you got the
money and you know she didn't want to do the
job herself. I mean she's looking at off. But while
you trying to off the X, like he's the X.
You gotta let the X go to try to go
on the dark dark Web. Death by shooting was listed
as five, death by sniper was and up beating. Death
(38:29):
by beating was only two thousand. Seems like the most workings.
Wait what so they're they're different levels? Do your membership?
Dark Web was going to be dark Web? You know
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