May 13, 2022 • 39 mins
When looking at the NFL Schedule, the NFL may be preparing for a late season suspension of Deshaun Watson. Jonas spots a lie when it comes to TNF broadcasts and Kurt Warner needs to weigh in on Tom Brady joining FOX. Iowa AD Gary Barta is the latest to suggest a solution to NIL. Plus, Madonna NFT’s, Little Darlings and Jim Irsay hoarding on the BQ News.
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you're on fs ARE, it is a Friday the thirteenth tier.
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But most importantly, it's a football Friday. Right Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's a football Friday. Come on, yeah, sp spin move button.
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Truck truck stick. I just sorry, I got tier to everywhere.
I was so excited for football truck stick. What does
truck stick even mean? I hear that term all the time.
What truck You had the thing on your remote control
when you hit it, when you pushed the stick down. Yeah,
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you pushed the stick down and you trucked it like
it's a video game thing, literally, But but it became
a real term, like if you got ran over and
real life they'd be like, oh, truck stick them. You know.
I guess maybe I was playing real life football too much.
I didn't really get into the video game version of it.
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That's ten dollars. Ten dollars dollars. What do you mean?
I mean that you felt like you were being attacked?
If you know you were you were being you were
being um defensive, which means if you were being defensive,
that represented Okay, so now we're adding on other layers
to my fines. All right, fine, here here's your ten
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bucks right here, right there is here's your ten bucks,
right you're grabbing your leg. You're horribles, all right. So, um,
what do you guys think of the Cleveland Browns only
getting two prime time games? What does it tell you
that the Cleveland Browns are only getting two primetime games
this upcoming season? With qu has already been saying, and
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so go ahead and bring us home. So what do
you think that means? I mean, I'm just saying, and
look at when they are too. Yeah, week three, week correct.
So I think there's a thought that it could I mean,
it could happen at any point in time, I guess.
And to the LaVar's point of what he said yesterday,
this is one of the biggest off season stories that's
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been going on now for two years, and so you'd
have to think that one way or another, there's gonna
be a lot of speculation, a lot of eyes around
the situation. And I think with placing those games when
they did, because the assumptions that he was gonna be
suspended to start this season. But you're saying week through
week eight, and there is the opportunity there's like a
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game versus Baltimore later in the season that could be
a Saturday, Saturday Sunday in a primetime slot um late
in the season. And then there's what their Week eighteen game,
I believe the last game of the season, seventeenth game
that's always to be decided. So you know, they could
end up with more, especially if it's for the division
or for a playoff spot, depending on how the network
see it and flex get junk. But it appears right
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now that there's there's a couple of thoughts. Either they're
not getting more because there's the concern of what suspension
maybe looming or coming, or they're putting them early because
they feel like that suspension might not be until later
in the season or in But as we heard from
Albert pre earlier this week, the NFL does not want
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to be in the position where they take action before
the courts do before this this these cases are settled
or there's not a settlement outside of court, so they
don't have pie on their face on it's all said,
who are they playing a Week three Steelers? That's a
Thursday night Amazon Prime game, that's one of Deshaun Watson game. Um,
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because it's a primetime game and they're playing the Steelers.
Who would be the quarterback? And well, here's the thing.
Oh if you yeah, Pickets probably gonna be the quarterback.
I mean you you don't really, I don't know what
he'll be doing at that in Week three, you know,
we don't. I don't think that you slate this as
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a prime time um matchup between amazing quarterbacks, you know,
So Picket's not going to carry the load of of
that that building, and and then you think of who
are the other players that are going to carry the
load of that being a prime time game and week
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three Jacobe percent, Yeah, I think it comes down to
Deshaun Watson is playing, and that's that they they know
he's going to be playing, or they're assuming he's going
to be playing, because that's the biggest name to to dry.
I mean, what you want to watch to see what
Deshaun Watson is able to do against UH against the
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Steelers defense. I think that's the biggest cell of it.
It's it's the biggest story. Even think it's close. I
think it's the biggest story of the off season going
into this year because we haven't seen him in a
couple of years. Not Brady coming back from retirement. No,
I think this one's bigger. I think this is bigger
because of everything that's been added onto it and the
Baker Mayfield aspect. I think it's a more polarizing and
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provocative story for certain I don't know that it's bigger
than Brady coming out of retirement. I mean, that is
the greatest football player arguably of our all time, and
he got great advice from Kurt Warner. I don't know
if he says and he got what we'll get to that.
And he got paid a little bit more for whatever
his future job is going to be guaranteed money, as
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compared to Deshaun Watson got paid two hund fifty million
for most likely getting a bunch of rubbing tugs. By
the way, By the way, I'll get accused on social media,
all right, of make of leading Brady into that comment.
There's a difference with how you say things and how Yes,
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that's very true. You just always leading to some sort
of conversation that I'm just saying. If you look into
the offseason, the big offseason news stories, it's been largely
Brady retiring, Brady coming back, Deshaun Watson situation. He gets
traded two million, Okay, then Brady signs this deal with
Fox three, or study five million. It's it's been like
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those two stories kind of back and forth. That's been
really what's driven it? I think, um, can I ask
you as whether or not somebody was lying? All right?
I saw this last night and I just you tell
me because both you guys have have called games. You're broadcasters.
By the way, you can watch LaVar later on on
Fox Sports one just right channel to nine for you
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Direct TV subscribers. I'm just pointing out, what do you mean.
I'm giving you a love here. Thanks for a little
love there, trying to put people up on a little
bit of game there. Thank you for putting them there.
All right? So, uh, last night on NFL Network, Rich
Eyes and was talking to Al Michaels and kirkerb Street
about Thursday night football and they're the broadcasting team on
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Amazon Prime and the Kirk curb Street starts talking about
it and says on the air, you know, Al, I
know you and I haven't a chance to talk about this,
but I'm really looking forward to the opportunity. I'm thinking
to myself, Hold on a second, those guys are being
paired up to do Thursday night games and they haven't
even talked about it, So answer me. This was Kirk
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curb Street lying on the air about not having talked
to Al Michael's yet about teaming up with him for
Thursday night football or is this a broadcaster in the
booth thing where you don't want to talk to your
partner before you guys actually start calling games together. I
don't know enough about it to have come on. You
called me called games before. Yeah, I would actually see this.
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There's there. There's two trains of thought in my mind,
because I do feel like when things are talked about
so much, it doesn't come off as surprising, although it
does allow the play by play to anticipate and the
producer to anticipate where the analyst is going. So behind
the scenes of how games work, you know, between Kirk
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Curves treading on Michaels, etcetera, the analyst really drives what
you see on TV, or should so. Your producer obviously
behind the scenes is helping the director put up the
replays and the shots. So when you're talking about certain players, coaches, etcetera,
that's all directed really through the analysts, like they should
be following the insight that he's providing and then portraying
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that for him and then backing up with graphics, stats, etcetera.
So the interesting thing about that is there has to
be a fair amount of preparation where everyone's on the
same page and they have an idea as to what
to put up, when to put up, and all that.
But there is this element of TV gold that's usually
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borne out of just natural conversation that occurs without that
that prep that that the game dictates or it happens
naturally in conversation, right, And sometimes it's it's maybe a
little bit better if the play by play doesn't know
what's coming, because he might follow up with a with
a question that you know, just happens naturally, and then
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it might be an answer that comes out naturally for
the analysts. So there is an element to TV that
I think a lot of times like the greatness of TNT.
And I know this isn't talking about an actual game,
you know, analysis and all that, but the the greatness
of what they do is whatever preparation they do, it
doesn't feel like it's scripted, and you never know what
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Chuck's gonna say, or Shack's gonna say, or Kenny's gonna say,
and there's a brilliance to that, and I think it's
it's it's you know, you try to do that in
the context of a game at times. That's probably right.
Romo got so popular when he first came on because
no one knew knew what to expect, and then he
was telling you what to expect, and nance was just
kind of playing into it. So that ran its course
for a while. People loved it. I don't know if
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they still do, but you know, I think there's a
fine line to that, and it's it's really a combination
of those two things that that makes any sense. Interesting. Yeah,
I just I saw that and I thought those guys
haven't spoken yet. But maybe maybe the al Michaels is
a veteran and he prefers it that way. Let's keep it,
let's keep it minimal, and then he will let it
happen on the air. So maybe that's how it plays out.
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By the way, Um, maybe they just haven't spoken yet.
I mean, we're not there yet. You don't think it's
kind of odd? I mean, when this show got paired up,
did we just wait until the morning of and say, hey, guys,
what's happening. It's like, no, I mean, come on Man.
We didn't have any long drawn out conversations, but we
had a conversation like we we at least how far out,
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how far out from the show? Months? Yeah, I could
say months. Yeah, like we were. We were doing shows
together and uh and filling in temporarily around a Memorial Day.
I think the circumstances are different apples, not apples to
apples comparison. I think once they get closer into the season,
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like you gotta believe that this is you know, there
has to be down times for guys like that because
they're so they're so well respected, they do so much
when they're on and during their seasons, you gotta believe
that this is their downtime. So they'll get started, you know,
probably you know, in the next month or so, just
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like you know, just like the football teams do you know,
I don't think they need any o t A s
or many champs to get themselves ready for for what
they're gonna do. You want to play the first ever
debut edition of broadcast match Game All right, here we go.
This is just for LaVar. You can go to Brady
if you need a hint on this. A little little,
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a little broadcast all right to LaVar who said the
following in regards to Tom Brady. Quote, That's one of
the challenges as you get into television. What am I
going to be as an analyst? One of the hardest
things is when you're a guy like Tom Brady that
everybody likes, and you want to be liked by people,
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and you have to figure out how to truly analyze
and be critical of what's going on, but not be
critical of people. End quote. Who said that? And that
could be anyone. There's more, there's more quote everybody's afraid of.
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I don't want to offend anybody, but I also want
to do my job and I want to do it
really well. Who said that in regards to Tom Brady?
There might be a little more. Do you have a guest,
let them hear a little more? Let a little more quote.
I've seen people take it personally. You can't just be
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a nice guy and really be good in this business. Now,
calling games can be different than being an analyst in
a studio, but at the same time, you've got to
be able to be critical. For me, I never attack
a person, but I always attack a problem. LaVar Arrington,
are you ready to take your guess what are you doing? Uh,
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that's why I do. When I don't have an answer outstarted,
you will go to your lifeline, your life. Come on,
give it, give it to me, is it, Kurt Warner?
Is that your final answer? Yes? That is correct. I
mean the NFL news that he doesn't interchect himself into right.
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I mean, I mean, this is a classic case of
being jealous that he's not getting those opportunities and he's
a Hall of Famer like that. That's what this is about.
And the reality is the job is not for everyone.
Like Kurt Wren doesn't need to openly say what he's
saying because it hasn't got as oh for him as
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he would like it too. That's the reality of it.
I mean, I don't maybe he'll make a movie about
his his teaving the sequel. I'm just I'm being honest, like, like,
there's this element of like, and it doesn't matter if
it's like quarterbacks and he's always you know, oh, come,
I'll teach all. It's like, dude, the kids, a dual
threat quarterback, like his vantage point in the way offenses
are run now drastically different. There's some elements, but I
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mean just just stop, just stop. By the way, that
was Kurt Warner talking to the San Diego Tribune there.
So I want to make sure that we get proper credit.
But you know, Kurt Warner, he's just handing out some advice.
You know, maybe he's working on you know. Here's the
truth too, is you can be critical and be a constructor.
For you could be critical and you can still do
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a good job and be a likable guy. I mean,
think about it. There's elements of that. When you saw
whether it was Jon Gruden, who obviously was in that position,
who's done it. You know, Romo to a degree can
do it or has done it. It been deaf only
has he's done it forever? Herb Street same thing. Like,
you could be a likable guy, a nice guy, and
still be critical and still be able to give an opinion.
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And so if if you can't do that, or you're
upset that you haven't gotten that opportunity, that's a you problem.
That's not like an industry problem. It's not like you
know what I'm saying, Like, it's not like they're not
looking for guys who are likable. Rodney Harrison, Like I
like Rodney Harrison and he's had some pushback from players
currently in the league because of some of the comments
he makes. And you know, he was criticizing somebody for
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you know, there were some dirty hits, and then you know,
they brought up all these potentially dirty hits from Rodney
Harrison's career. But yeah, Rodney Harrison has a ton of
dirty hits. Well, I mean, you know there's the trend
green Low hit, you know, tying it back into Kurt Warner.
I mean, there's some speculation there as to whether or
not that was dirty quarterback that. I'll be honest with you,
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if you're throwing an interception, I can't control my emotions,
my visceral reactions, so I usually just try to go
for guy's need to take him out. That was like
literally when I was big enough in high school or
even in college, I would just try to go head
hunting for the dude. I'm like, I'm gonna smoke you,
I'm gonna lay you out. And once you get the NFL,
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You're like, you don't want to do that, but yeah,
I'm gonna try to go end the rest of you know,
the rest of the game for you or something else like.
That's how mad, I don't pick my ball up next time.
You know, he knock it down. Better knock it down. Hey,
knock it down. Not that guy knock it down, to
be intact, knock it down. But now, I mean, do
you care about the well being of that player at
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that moment in time? You know, honestly I do. But
in that fit of rage, I black out. I have
no idea what's happening. Somebody overcomes my body and I
just try to go head hunting and try to go
over someone's name. I can't control what happens after that.
It's like it's like it was it what was the
Sylvester Stolone's name? And over the top o the switch?
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What was his name? And I don't know, it doesn't
probably matter, but still that's what it is. It's like this,
this switch happens where I turned the hat around and
I just I can't see anything. Yeah, I mean stronger,
let's go live to our I know the name of
what's what's that you Sylvester Stallone's character over the top
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inside or lead to laugh for the latest league, it's
Lincoln Hook Lincoln Hok. I was also is gonna say
Ethan Hawk, but I was like, that's an actor. That's
like a way you don't want to say Lincoln Hawk
too fast on the air, tip alright, Uh, it is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
all right, coming up next. Uh, somebody has weighed in
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on a major topic in the world of sports, and
somebody on this show is not happy about it. We'll
get into that for you right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you
here on fs are coming up later on this hour,
another edition of the b Q News. All right, the
perfect way to wrap up a Friday morning here on FSR.
So we'll get to that here a little over twenty
minutes from now. Um, it is the Gift that keeps
on giving. Another day and somebody else is weighing in
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on name, image likeness. This time it was Gary Barda,
who is the athletic director for Iowa and UM. He
was on the Fight for Iowa podcast and he gave
his two cents on how to fix the quote unquote issue.
If we can't totally control name, image and likeness, then
let's go back and put a one year. Uh, if
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you transfer, you can transfer. You don't have to lose
your scholarship, but you must sit out of here because
we can control that. And that I think would slow
down the name, image and likeness deals because a booster
isn't gonna offer a student athlete a big sum of
money if they know if they come to their university
they have to sit out of here. So there he is,
Gary Bart. I mean, this makes a lot of sense
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to me. Man. It's what we touched on a little
bit yesterday here and here's here's what I'd say in
this regard um. The idea if they didn't lose that
year of eligibility, though I think has merit. So you
sit out a year, but you extend a year of
him happening to kind of be at school if you will.
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But it doesn't negate the fact that there's not gonna
be a big n I L deal for them. But
and it actually supports them being able to get an
n I L deal. The problem is there's not gonna
be on the field, and so then then then puts
pressure on the booster or whoever that collective is, or
the school for that matter. So it puts pressure on
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them to whether or not they want to sign him
to a big deal even though we won't be able
to help him for two years. And this and the
thing I like about it is the whole idea behind
the name, image and likeness is the n c A
is trying to differentiate like these can't be a payer
for play deal. Well, if the kids transferring there and
he can't play the first year and he's still doing
a big n I L deal, guess what there you go. Clearly,
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it's it's more about you know that this you know, name,
image and likeness that it is about him paying for
play if you're still paying him while he's not playing
for that university. But what what Gary bard is trying
to eliminate is inducement. That's what this is all about.
The n c A try to put out some guidelines
May nine, Gary BARDA and others are talking out against
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it because what you're getting is tampering. You're getting tampering
from other coaches, other schools, talking to players who aren't
in the transfer portal. We're talking to recruits who are
committed and trying to flip them using money. And again
that's existed for a long time. It's not gonna change
because the truth is there's no governing body who's gonna
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be to oversee it and and and regulate it. So
I'm all for the idea of trying to trying to
limit how the transport portal has allowed access to create
these these sorts of n I L deals or inducement
and like, I don't have a perfect answer, but I
do think the portal is the first action step that
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needs to be taken. It's not gonna be name, image
and likeness. And as Gary Bard has said in that quote,
they can't control because it's law. The Supreme Court already
ruled on this. So there's the n c A, the government.
No one's gonna change it. They can say, set forth
whatever guidelines they want. The n c A has already tried.
They will be countersuits, like there will be lawsuits against
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the n c A, which is one of the reasons
why it's become the wild Wild West is because they
were so concerned about the antitrust laws and those issues
with the Supreme Court decision. So the transport portal is
the only thing that is in control by the n
c A. And that's gonna be the one step that
I think whatever governing body, whether it's the n c
a A or the Power Five conferences, the Commissioners, whenever
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they come to an agreement on that will help limit
some of it, but it's always going to exist. I
think what makes this maybe potentially problematic is that this
is being once again a movement that's kind of geared
towards the elites, and and how how many of these
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guys are really commanding that type of attention when they're transferring.
See I concern myself with the guy that that legitimately
is not going to get on the field where they're at.
I mean, for many of years guys have transferred, that
has always been a thing like you're not good enough
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to play a Notre Dame, so you go to you know,
another school. You're not good enough to play at Alabama,
so you end up at another school. And and I
almost feel like in in the attempt to try to
manage and regulate elite players that you don't want to
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lose at your school because of of you know, obviously
the implications of losing them. You're not taking every other
kid that may find themselves in a circumstance that that
may be legitimate for them to want to leave and
and and have that opportunity to go play somewhere else
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or attempt to try to play somewhere else. For everyone
of the other guys that you'll say, well, they're running
away from their problems or you know, whatever it may be,
they're creating a bad habit. You know, there are some legitimates,
you know, legitimate um guys that transfer for for every
elite that may leave to go get a pay day
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from another another school, and what the boosters may do
to bring that person to your school. I just I
just don't know that trying to figure that piece of
it out should be that big of a deal, you know,
because in the end, if a kid wants to leave
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a school, they're going to leave that school. They're gonna
find a way. They had the waiver system before, right
and then kids what kids were doing. We're hiring attorneys
to basically state their case in order to get out.
And I won't go into details of what you know
players used as as different accusations, but again a fear
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of being sued by a player for the n c
A not allowing that waiver to to be pushed through.
They push it through, they push it through, they let
it go because it's not a big enough fight for them.
So that that was how I used to work obviously
before they got the one freebee transfer. Is this ever
going to be resolved? Because it seems like every day
somebody's got an idea or a gripe or a complaint.
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Is there ever gonna be a uniformed n I LL
agreement to where everybody says, all right, this is what
we got going and we move forward. Going to have
to adopt a pro model, and you're going to have
to hire people who can implement a pro model, and
the schools are going to have to start paying players.
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See right now, the one thing that nobody talks about really,
I mean really, in the grand scheme of all of
these conversations, it's all geared towards the boosters and the
businesses that are trying to lord these kids to the
schools that they want them to go to. But the
schools aren't losing money off of this, they're not paying
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those those student athletes. It's those businesses and those boosters
that are doing it. What's going to have to happen
is these amounts of money that are being generated off
of the television deals and being generated out of out
of the ticket sales and everything else that's taking place.
Uh of money being generated is going to have to
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become a pro model. You're going to have to have
You're gonna have to have a rep share, You're gonna
have to play pay every player that's on those teams
that are generating those those those types of moneys. Now,
where it becomes sticky and where it becomes you know,
kind of how do you figure this out is if
that were to happen, then schools aren't able to build up,
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They're not able to build new buildings, create new schools.
So that's what people will say, You don't say that,
but that's not true, right because a lot of it,
you know, it's still private donations, and there is there
are people out there with such considerable wealth they'll donate
whatever they need to put their name on a building.
Right Like that's that's still part of it. But no,
you're you're spot on with all this, and I think
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some of that's already in the works. And it's It's
funny to me though, because the one network that I
think is not taking this into account and probably doesn't
want to to go this direction is ESPN. They are
so heavily invested into college football and the rights for
it and the expenses are so vast that as soon
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as it comes out that these rights, whether it's for
SEC or a c C or whatever other rights they're
paying for, as soon as it comes out that, you know,
there's gonna have to a portion of it that goes
to this too, and that kind of maybe even adds
on to some degree of the cost of all this.
It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna
be tough, I think for some of these networks to
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swallow the fact that it's not even like their partner
now has changed their partners that conference and that conference
commissioners kind of the speaker head for them, but now
it's the players too. But those players are still gonna
have to unionize. So it's it's a you know, drastically
changing landscape. But I do think LaVar is like spot
on in regards to it's it's the pro model, it's
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a revenue share, it's all of it. And until we
get to that point, you know, you're still gonna have
these issues come up because not we're trying to operate
in this in this world of like kind of a
semi pro situation when yeah, anything you do it's gonna
impact someone either the top five percent, the bottom five percent,
you know, or the masses to some degree. But that
that's what it feels like. We're creating rules for, Like
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we're creating rules for Jordan Addison or Caleb Williams or
whoever else. And you're like, wait a second, there's all
these other kids who are transferred just because they want
to shot a playing. The penalize them, and there's way
more of them than there are the Calebs and that,
and that's the other thing is like you could create
an exemption for, Hey, your coach got fired, you know,
you hired a new coach. You could create an exemption
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because they're already created an exemption for being able to
bring on more than twenty five scholarships. So as much
as there might be a mass exodus at that school
where there's a coaching change, there also could be a
you know, a mass inclusion of people who sign up
who are high school recruits and and you know transfer
portal or college guys you're bringing on. So it's again
there's no perfect answer, but I do think the portal
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is is one of the things that's a loud inducement.
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Let's go to the news desk. Look, here's Brady Quinny
and you guys know this behind the scenes. I usually
don't send the articles ahead of time because I'd like
you to react, you know, just in the moment to
what you're being presented. This one was different. I put
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fourth this article talking about Madonna and the n f
T that she's created. Now, I might eat of help
and describing it, but basically, the the sixty three year
old Queen of Pop has created an n f T,
a non fungible token with artists people, and it's her naked.
(32:16):
And there's various videos and images, but in one particular
one there's butterflies coming out of her private area. In
another one there's a tree growing out of it there
in some sort of lab. It is over. Yeah, it's
quite provocative, I'll put it that way. Yeah. Um, what's
(32:39):
the name of the artist again? You can go twice
as high? Well, the name of the people is like
who she created it with, But Mike Winkleman, I believe
is the creator with people creator People and Winkleman both
apply don evidence underrated movie. Yeah, yeah, sixty three years old. Um,
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you know she got popular with it, so why not
continue on to to leverage it. She's sixty three, you know,
I mean, but I mean, at what point do you
just accept that that's who Madonna is? I mean, except
for those who know who she is, they know that
butterflies and trees are level to I think the premises.
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I just I don't need to see the basement all
right at sixty three years old, you know what I mean?
Some people want to see the basement sixty three years old.
We just don't happen to fall into that category of
join it. I mean, is this an artist or artistic
move in your mind? Or is this? I mean, because
this is going to live on forever and for everything
(33:55):
but Donna has done. It's just you're sixty three, Like
I would think as you get older, this would not
be the direction you would. Yeah, like she could still
write songs, right, I mean you never loved her. Thing
is not what you guys are trying to make it.
Her thing is what it's always been. Her sexuality. She's
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a free she She is free with it and she
she embraces it. And that's what so many people loved
about her. Like she was if you really think about
where we are in society today, she was really ahead
of her time, like big time, Like people like her
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and like Grace Jones comes to mind, like people that
had like over the top, like strong sexuality, you know,
with their identities. I mean that was in a time
before it was really you know, acceptable, and you know,
so you're saying, like the stuff coming out of us. Yes,
that's correct. That it doesn't look like she kind of
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toots and then the butterflies come out. It does look
like that that there there is a uh yeah, gas
like it's like an elegant crop duster. Yeah it was.
It was a slow motion. Yeah, we're getting trouble. How
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about this? By the way, you know, obviously the the
Ukraine Russian War still going on, and more and more
people are throwing their support standing with Ukraine, in particular
Little Darlings, which is a strip club outside of Las Vegas,
and they're they're looking forward to hiring uh strippers, in
particular those who are of from Ukraine. They're trying to
(35:44):
promote it to make sure they can uh continue to
support the Ukrainian efforts and the Ukrainian people here in
the United States. And it's this is Las Vegas, she said,
this is outside of Las Vegas. Go ahead and take
a look. Just some research here. It's called at Old
Darling Darlings. UM big Now auditioning Ukrainian strippers, I mean,
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how many people are going to be fake in the resume? Now?
I mean that that feels like a real opportunity here.
It's a valid question I mean, how how much Ukrainian
do you have to be in order to be considered
a Ukrainian point? Because you did your twenty three and
me and you have everything from Egyptian to Italian to
everything that wasn't Egyptian. I was that was a right
(36:28):
interesting Bangladesh? But what else was on? Alright? So why
do those places have such tall, big signs to be
seen from anywhere? Curious? Little darling was a big old
wouldn't you want a little discreet so guys you didn't
have to wear a hooded sweater when they walked in,
(36:49):
you know, like, wouldn't you like you'd want, you know,
something a little bit more private, you know, like, yeah,
we don't need to show everybody what this is. Clearly
they do more than just try to help Ukrainians. Uh,
this situation I'm looking at right here is pay your
way through College with a picture of a young lady
on the um. Yeah I didn't see that. Can I
(37:11):
get your password? Labar? This one says Corona virus free
lap dance. So so I'm speaking of people who are
supporting Ukraine check out account. Cool cool sowner Jimmers Say
is now the proud owner of a baseball signed by
Ukrainian President um Zelinsky. And he paid a whopping fifty
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thousand dollars for this, uh, this baseball signed by Zelinski
and apparently more than fifteen hundred or excuse me, fifteen
thousand will be donated to relief efforts in Ukraine. So
why why is the Ukrainian president signing a baseball? Why
is buying it? I mean, I don't know, he could
(37:56):
just don't. He doesn't. He doesn't need to buy the
baseball to then donate, like you could just donate fifteen
dollars donate. It is Jimmer Say a hoarder. And we
uncovered that he's a horder because he's got his hands
on everything when it comes to memorabili and this and that.
What do you think his house looks like? I mean,
we know he you know, the uh back in the day,
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the trash bag in the backseat and all that. Is
He just a hoarder, is Jim. He's got a baseball collection.
Apparently it's called the Jimmer Says Collection and it's gonna
be on displaying in Manhattan. But the ball was projected
to go for fifteen thousand. It obviously went for fifty
thousand and I believe there are thirty five total bits
placed on it. So, I mean, um, can we go
back to Little Darlings? I mean, dude, hand sanitizer wrestling.
(38:42):
I mean that was advertised eyes. That's kind that kind
of promotion that would burn your eyes, wouldn't it. Yeah,
among other things, drive through lap dances. I guess that
was during COVID shot to Drap lap Day. Let's go.
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you're on fs ARE, it is a Friday the thirteenth tier.
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But most importantly, it's a football Friday. Right Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's a football Friday. Come on, yeah, sp spin move button.
(01:27):
Truck truck stick. I just sorry, I got tier to everywhere.
I was so excited for football truck stick. What does
truck stick even mean? I hear that term all the time.
What truck You had the thing on your remote control
when you hit it, when you pushed the stick down. Yeah,
(01:48):
you pushed the stick down and you trucked it like
it's a video game thing, literally, But but it became
a real term, like if you got ran over and
real life they'd be like, oh, truck stick them. You know.
I guess maybe I was playing real life football too much.
I didn't really get into the video game version of it.
(02:08):
That's ten dollars. Ten dollars dollars. What do you mean?
I mean that you felt like you were being attacked?
If you know you were you were being you were
being um defensive, which means if you were being defensive,
that represented Okay, so now we're adding on other layers
to my fines. All right, fine, here here's your ten
(02:30):
bucks right here, right there is here's your ten bucks,
right you're grabbing your leg. You're horribles, all right. So, um,
what do you guys think of the Cleveland Browns only
getting two prime time games? What does it tell you
that the Cleveland Browns are only getting two primetime games
this upcoming season? With qu has already been saying, and
(02:53):
so go ahead and bring us home. So what do
you think that means? I mean, I'm just saying, and
look at when they are too. Yeah, week three, week correct.
So I think there's a thought that it could I mean,
it could happen at any point in time, I guess.
And to the LaVar's point of what he said yesterday,
this is one of the biggest off season stories that's
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been going on now for two years, and so you'd
have to think that one way or another, there's gonna
be a lot of speculation, a lot of eyes around
the situation. And I think with placing those games when
they did, because the assumptions that he was gonna be
suspended to start this season. But you're saying week through
week eight, and there is the opportunity there's like a
(03:38):
game versus Baltimore later in the season that could be
a Saturday, Saturday Sunday in a primetime slot um late
in the season. And then there's what their Week eighteen game,
I believe the last game of the season, seventeenth game
that's always to be decided. So you know, they could
end up with more, especially if it's for the division
or for a playoff spot, depending on how the network
see it and flex get junk. But it appears right
(04:01):
now that there's there's a couple of thoughts. Either they're
not getting more because there's the concern of what suspension
maybe looming or coming, or they're putting them early because
they feel like that suspension might not be until later
in the season or in But as we heard from
Albert pre earlier this week, the NFL does not want
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to be in the position where they take action before
the courts do before this this these cases are settled
or there's not a settlement outside of court, so they
don't have pie on their face on it's all said,
who are they playing a Week three Steelers? That's a
Thursday night Amazon Prime game, that's one of Deshaun Watson game. Um,
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because it's a primetime game and they're playing the Steelers.
Who would be the quarterback? And well, here's the thing.
Oh if you yeah, Pickets probably gonna be the quarterback.
I mean you you don't really, I don't know what
he'll be doing at that in Week three, you know,
we don't. I don't think that you slate this as
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a prime time um matchup between amazing quarterbacks, you know,
So Picket's not going to carry the load of of
that that building, and and then you think of who
are the other players that are going to carry the
load of that being a prime time game and week
(05:34):
three Jacobe percent, Yeah, I think it comes down to
Deshaun Watson is playing, and that's that they they know
he's going to be playing, or they're assuming he's going
to be playing, because that's the biggest name to to dry.
I mean, what you want to watch to see what
Deshaun Watson is able to do against UH against the
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Steelers defense. I think that's the biggest cell of it.
It's it's the biggest story. Even think it's close. I
think it's the biggest story of the off season going
into this year because we haven't seen him in a
couple of years. Not Brady coming back from retirement. No,
I think this one's bigger. I think this is bigger
because of everything that's been added onto it and the
Baker Mayfield aspect. I think it's a more polarizing and
(06:17):
provocative story for certain I don't know that it's bigger
than Brady coming out of retirement. I mean, that is
the greatest football player arguably of our all time, and
he got great advice from Kurt Warner. I don't know
if he says and he got what we'll get to that.
And he got paid a little bit more for whatever
his future job is going to be guaranteed money, as
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compared to Deshaun Watson got paid two hund fifty million
for most likely getting a bunch of rubbing tugs. By
the way, By the way, I'll get accused on social media,
all right, of make of leading Brady into that comment.
There's a difference with how you say things and how Yes,
(07:00):
that's very true. You just always leading to some sort
of conversation that I'm just saying. If you look into
the offseason, the big offseason news stories, it's been largely
Brady retiring, Brady coming back, Deshaun Watson situation. He gets
traded two million, Okay, then Brady signs this deal with
Fox three, or study five million. It's it's been like
(07:22):
those two stories kind of back and forth. That's been
really what's driven it? I think, um, can I ask
you as whether or not somebody was lying? All right?
I saw this last night and I just you tell
me because both you guys have have called games. You're broadcasters.
By the way, you can watch LaVar later on on
Fox Sports one just right channel to nine for you
(07:43):
Direct TV subscribers. I'm just pointing out, what do you mean.
I'm giving you a love here. Thanks for a little
love there, trying to put people up on a little
bit of game there. Thank you for putting them there.
All right? So, uh, last night on NFL Network, Rich
Eyes and was talking to Al Michaels and kirkerb Street
about Thursday night football and they're the broadcasting team on
(08:03):
Amazon Prime and the Kirk curb Street starts talking about
it and says on the air, you know, Al, I
know you and I haven't a chance to talk about this,
but I'm really looking forward to the opportunity. I'm thinking
to myself, Hold on a second, those guys are being
paired up to do Thursday night games and they haven't
even talked about it, So answer me. This was Kirk
(08:24):
curb Street lying on the air about not having talked
to Al Michael's yet about teaming up with him for
Thursday night football or is this a broadcaster in the
booth thing where you don't want to talk to your
partner before you guys actually start calling games together. I
don't know enough about it to have come on. You
called me called games before. Yeah, I would actually see this.
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There's there. There's two trains of thought in my mind,
because I do feel like when things are talked about
so much, it doesn't come off as surprising, although it
does allow the play by play to anticipate and the
producer to anticipate where the analyst is going. So behind
the scenes of how games work, you know, between Kirk
(09:10):
Curves treading on Michaels, etcetera, the analyst really drives what
you see on TV, or should so. Your producer obviously
behind the scenes is helping the director put up the
replays and the shots. So when you're talking about certain players, coaches, etcetera,
that's all directed really through the analysts, like they should
be following the insight that he's providing and then portraying
(09:33):
that for him and then backing up with graphics, stats, etcetera.
So the interesting thing about that is there has to
be a fair amount of preparation where everyone's on the
same page and they have an idea as to what
to put up, when to put up, and all that.
But there is this element of TV gold that's usually
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borne out of just natural conversation that occurs without that
that prep that that the game dictates or it happens
naturally in conversation, right, And sometimes it's it's maybe a
little bit better if the play by play doesn't know
what's coming, because he might follow up with a with
a question that you know, just happens naturally, and then
(10:14):
it might be an answer that comes out naturally for
the analysts. So there is an element to TV that
I think a lot of times like the greatness of TNT.
And I know this isn't talking about an actual game,
you know, analysis and all that, but the the greatness
of what they do is whatever preparation they do, it
doesn't feel like it's scripted, and you never know what
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Chuck's gonna say, or Shack's gonna say, or Kenny's gonna say,
and there's a brilliance to that, and I think it's
it's it's you know, you try to do that in
the context of a game at times. That's probably right.
Romo got so popular when he first came on because
no one knew knew what to expect, and then he
was telling you what to expect, and nance was just
kind of playing into it. So that ran its course
for a while. People loved it. I don't know if
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they still do, but you know, I think there's a
fine line to that, and it's it's really a combination
of those two things that that makes any sense. Interesting. Yeah,
I just I saw that and I thought those guys
haven't spoken yet. But maybe maybe the al Michaels is
a veteran and he prefers it that way. Let's keep it,
let's keep it minimal, and then he will let it
happen on the air. So maybe that's how it plays out.
(11:18):
By the way, Um, maybe they just haven't spoken yet.
I mean, we're not there yet. You don't think it's
kind of odd? I mean, when this show got paired up,
did we just wait until the morning of and say, hey, guys,
what's happening. It's like, no, I mean, come on Man.
We didn't have any long drawn out conversations, but we
had a conversation like we we at least how far out,
(11:42):
how far out from the show? Months? Yeah, I could
say months. Yeah, like we were. We were doing shows
together and uh and filling in temporarily around a Memorial Day.
I think the circumstances are different apples, not apples to
apples comparison. I think once they get closer into the season,
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like you gotta believe that this is you know, there
has to be down times for guys like that because
they're so they're so well respected, they do so much
when they're on and during their seasons, you gotta believe
that this is their downtime. So they'll get started, you know,
probably you know, in the next month or so, just
(12:27):
like you know, just like the football teams do you know,
I don't think they need any o t A s
or many champs to get themselves ready for for what
they're gonna do. You want to play the first ever
debut edition of broadcast match Game All right, here we go.
This is just for LaVar. You can go to Brady
if you need a hint on this. A little little,
(12:49):
a little broadcast all right to LaVar who said the
following in regards to Tom Brady. Quote, That's one of
the challenges as you get into television. What am I
going to be as an analyst? One of the hardest
things is when you're a guy like Tom Brady that
everybody likes, and you want to be liked by people,
(13:11):
and you have to figure out how to truly analyze
and be critical of what's going on, but not be
critical of people. End quote. Who said that? And that
could be anyone. There's more, there's more quote everybody's afraid of.
(13:31):
I don't want to offend anybody, but I also want
to do my job and I want to do it
really well. Who said that in regards to Tom Brady?
There might be a little more. Do you have a guest,
let them hear a little more? Let a little more quote.
I've seen people take it personally. You can't just be
(13:51):
a nice guy and really be good in this business. Now,
calling games can be different than being an analyst in
a studio, but at the same time, you've got to
be able to be critical. For me, I never attack
a person, but I always attack a problem. LaVar Arrington,
are you ready to take your guess what are you doing? Uh,
(14:16):
that's why I do. When I don't have an answer outstarted,
you will go to your lifeline, your life. Come on,
give it, give it to me, is it, Kurt Warner?
Is that your final answer? Yes? That is correct. I
mean the NFL news that he doesn't interchect himself into right.
(14:39):
I mean, I mean, this is a classic case of
being jealous that he's not getting those opportunities and he's
a Hall of Famer like that. That's what this is about.
And the reality is the job is not for everyone.
Like Kurt Wren doesn't need to openly say what he's
saying because it hasn't got as oh for him as
(15:01):
he would like it too. That's the reality of it.
I mean, I don't maybe he'll make a movie about
his his teaving the sequel. I'm just I'm being honest, like, like,
there's this element of like, and it doesn't matter if
it's like quarterbacks and he's always you know, oh, come,
I'll teach all. It's like, dude, the kids, a dual
threat quarterback, like his vantage point in the way offenses
are run now drastically different. There's some elements, but I
(15:24):
mean just just stop, just stop. By the way, that
was Kurt Warner talking to the San Diego Tribune there.
So I want to make sure that we get proper credit.
But you know, Kurt Warner, he's just handing out some advice.
You know, maybe he's working on you know. Here's the
truth too, is you can be critical and be a constructor.
For you could be critical and you can still do
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a good job and be a likable guy. I mean,
think about it. There's elements of that. When you saw
whether it was Jon Gruden, who obviously was in that position,
who's done it. You know, Romo to a degree can
do it or has done it. It been deaf only
has he's done it forever? Herb Street same thing. Like,
you could be a likable guy, a nice guy, and
still be critical and still be able to give an opinion.
(16:09):
And so if if you can't do that, or you're
upset that you haven't gotten that opportunity, that's a you problem.
That's not like an industry problem. It's not like you
know what I'm saying, Like, it's not like they're not
looking for guys who are likable. Rodney Harrison, Like I
like Rodney Harrison and he's had some pushback from players
currently in the league because of some of the comments
he makes. And you know, he was criticizing somebody for
(16:30):
you know, there were some dirty hits, and then you know,
they brought up all these potentially dirty hits from Rodney
Harrison's career. But yeah, Rodney Harrison has a ton of
dirty hits. Well, I mean, you know there's the trend
green Low hit, you know, tying it back into Kurt Warner.
I mean, there's some speculation there as to whether or
not that was dirty quarterback that. I'll be honest with you,
(16:54):
if you're throwing an interception, I can't control my emotions,
my visceral reactions, so I usually just try to go
for guy's need to take him out. That was like
literally when I was big enough in high school or
even in college, I would just try to go head
hunting for the dude. I'm like, I'm gonna smoke you,
I'm gonna lay you out. And once you get the NFL,
(17:16):
You're like, you don't want to do that, but yeah,
I'm gonna try to go end the rest of you know,
the rest of the game for you or something else like.
That's how mad, I don't pick my ball up next time.
You know, he knock it down. Better knock it down. Hey,
knock it down. Not that guy knock it down, to
be intact, knock it down. But now, I mean, do
you care about the well being of that player at
(17:38):
that moment in time? You know, honestly I do. But
in that fit of rage, I black out. I have
no idea what's happening. Somebody overcomes my body and I
just try to go head hunting and try to go
over someone's name. I can't control what happens after that.
It's like it's like it was it what was the
Sylvester Stolone's name? And over the top o the switch?
(17:58):
What was his name? And I don't know, it doesn't
probably matter, but still that's what it is. It's like this,
this switch happens where I turned the hat around and
I just I can't see anything. Yeah, I mean stronger,
let's go live to our I know the name of
what's what's that you Sylvester Stallone's character over the top
(18:19):
inside or lead to laugh for the latest league, it's
Lincoln Hook Lincoln Hok. I was also is gonna say
Ethan Hawk, but I was like, that's an actor. That's
like a way you don't want to say Lincoln Hawk
too fast on the air, tip alright, Uh, it is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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perfect way to wrap up a Friday morning here on FSR.
So we'll get to that here a little over twenty
minutes from now. Um, it is the Gift that keeps
on giving. Another day and somebody else is weighing in
(19:27):
on name, image likeness. This time it was Gary Barda,
who is the athletic director for Iowa and UM. He
was on the Fight for Iowa podcast and he gave
his two cents on how to fix the quote unquote issue.
If we can't totally control name, image and likeness, then
let's go back and put a one year. Uh, if
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you transfer, you can transfer. You don't have to lose
your scholarship, but you must sit out of here because
we can control that. And that I think would slow
down the name, image and likeness deals because a booster
isn't gonna offer a student athlete a big sum of
money if they know if they come to their university
they have to sit out of here. So there he is,
Gary Bart. I mean, this makes a lot of sense
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to me. Man. It's what we touched on a little
bit yesterday here and here's here's what I'd say in
this regard um. The idea if they didn't lose that
year of eligibility, though I think has merit. So you
sit out a year, but you extend a year of
him happening to kind of be at school if you will.
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But it doesn't negate the fact that there's not gonna
be a big n I L deal for them. But
and it actually supports them being able to get an
n I L deal. The problem is there's not gonna
be on the field, and so then then then puts
pressure on the booster or whoever that collective is, or
the school for that matter. So it puts pressure on
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them to whether or not they want to sign him
to a big deal even though we won't be able
to help him for two years. And this and the
thing I like about it is the whole idea behind
the name, image and likeness is the n c A
is trying to differentiate like these can't be a payer
for play deal. Well, if the kids transferring there and
he can't play the first year and he's still doing
a big n I L deal, guess what there you go. Clearly,
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it's it's more about you know that this you know, name,
image and likeness that it is about him paying for
play if you're still paying him while he's not playing
for that university. But what what Gary bard is trying
to eliminate is inducement. That's what this is all about.
The n c A try to put out some guidelines
May nine, Gary BARDA and others are talking out against
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it because what you're getting is tampering. You're getting tampering
from other coaches, other schools, talking to players who aren't
in the transfer portal. We're talking to recruits who are
committed and trying to flip them using money. And again
that's existed for a long time. It's not gonna change
because the truth is there's no governing body who's gonna
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be to oversee it and and and regulate it. So
I'm all for the idea of trying to trying to
limit how the transport portal has allowed access to create
these these sorts of n I L deals or inducement
and like, I don't have a perfect answer, but I
do think the portal is the first action step that
(22:22):
needs to be taken. It's not gonna be name, image
and likeness. And as Gary Bard has said in that quote,
they can't control because it's law. The Supreme Court already
ruled on this. So there's the n c A, the government.
No one's gonna change it. They can say, set forth
whatever guidelines they want. The n c A has already tried.
They will be countersuits, like there will be lawsuits against
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the n c A, which is one of the reasons
why it's become the wild Wild West is because they
were so concerned about the antitrust laws and those issues
with the Supreme Court decision. So the transport portal is
the only thing that is in control by the n
c A. And that's gonna be the one step that
I think whatever governing body, whether it's the n c
a A or the Power Five conferences, the Commissioners, whenever
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they come to an agreement on that will help limit
some of it, but it's always going to exist. I
think what makes this maybe potentially problematic is that this
is being once again a movement that's kind of geared
towards the elites, and and how how many of these
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guys are really commanding that type of attention when they're transferring.
See I concern myself with the guy that that legitimately
is not going to get on the field where they're at.
I mean, for many of years guys have transferred, that
has always been a thing like you're not good enough
(23:48):
to play a Notre Dame, so you go to you know,
another school. You're not good enough to play at Alabama,
so you end up at another school. And and I
almost feel like in in the attempt to try to
manage and regulate elite players that you don't want to
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lose at your school because of of you know, obviously
the implications of losing them. You're not taking every other
kid that may find themselves in a circumstance that that
may be legitimate for them to want to leave and
and and have that opportunity to go play somewhere else
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or attempt to try to play somewhere else. For everyone
of the other guys that you'll say, well, they're running
away from their problems or you know, whatever it may be,
they're creating a bad habit. You know, there are some legitimates,
you know, legitimate um guys that transfer for for every
elite that may leave to go get a pay day
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from another another school, and what the boosters may do
to bring that person to your school. I just I
just don't know that trying to figure that piece of
it out should be that big of a deal, you know,
because in the end, if a kid wants to leave
(25:12):
a school, they're going to leave that school. They're gonna
find a way. They had the waiver system before, right
and then kids what kids were doing. We're hiring attorneys
to basically state their case in order to get out.
And I won't go into details of what you know
players used as as different accusations, but again a fear
(25:35):
of being sued by a player for the n c
A not allowing that waiver to to be pushed through.
They push it through, they push it through, they let
it go because it's not a big enough fight for them.
So that that was how I used to work obviously
before they got the one freebee transfer. Is this ever
going to be resolved? Because it seems like every day
somebody's got an idea or a gripe or a complaint.
(25:57):
Is there ever gonna be a uniformed n I LL
agreement to where everybody says, all right, this is what
we got going and we move forward. Going to have
to adopt a pro model, and you're going to have
to hire people who can implement a pro model, and
the schools are going to have to start paying players.
(26:17):
See right now, the one thing that nobody talks about really,
I mean really, in the grand scheme of all of
these conversations, it's all geared towards the boosters and the
businesses that are trying to lord these kids to the
schools that they want them to go to. But the
schools aren't losing money off of this, they're not paying
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those those student athletes. It's those businesses and those boosters
that are doing it. What's going to have to happen
is these amounts of money that are being generated off
of the television deals and being generated out of out
of the ticket sales and everything else that's taking place.
Uh of money being generated is going to have to
(27:03):
become a pro model. You're going to have to have
You're gonna have to have a rep share, You're gonna
have to play pay every player that's on those teams
that are generating those those those types of moneys. Now,
where it becomes sticky and where it becomes you know,
kind of how do you figure this out is if
that were to happen, then schools aren't able to build up,
(27:27):
They're not able to build new buildings, create new schools.
So that's what people will say, You don't say that,
but that's not true, right because a lot of it,
you know, it's still private donations, and there is there
are people out there with such considerable wealth they'll donate
whatever they need to put their name on a building.
Right Like that's that's still part of it. But no,
you're you're spot on with all this, and I think
(27:50):
some of that's already in the works. And it's It's
funny to me though, because the one network that I
think is not taking this into account and probably doesn't
want to to go this direction is ESPN. They are
so heavily invested into college football and the rights for
it and the expenses are so vast that as soon
(28:11):
as it comes out that these rights, whether it's for
SEC or a c C or whatever other rights they're
paying for, as soon as it comes out that, you know,
there's gonna have to a portion of it that goes
to this too, and that kind of maybe even adds
on to some degree of the cost of all this.
It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna
be tough, I think for some of these networks to
(28:33):
swallow the fact that it's not even like their partner
now has changed their partners that conference and that conference
commissioners kind of the speaker head for them, but now
it's the players too. But those players are still gonna
have to unionize. So it's it's a you know, drastically
changing landscape. But I do think LaVar is like spot
on in regards to it's it's the pro model, it's
(28:53):
a revenue share, it's all of it. And until we
get to that point, you know, you're still gonna have
these issues come up because not we're trying to operate
in this in this world of like kind of a
semi pro situation when yeah, anything you do it's gonna
impact someone either the top five percent, the bottom five percent,
you know, or the masses to some degree. But that
that's what it feels like. We're creating rules for, Like
(29:15):
we're creating rules for Jordan Addison or Caleb Williams or
whoever else. And you're like, wait a second, there's all
these other kids who are transferred just because they want
to shot a playing. The penalize them, and there's way
more of them than there are the Calebs and that,
and that's the other thing is like you could create
an exemption for, Hey, your coach got fired, you know,
you hired a new coach. You could create an exemption
(29:37):
because they're already created an exemption for being able to
bring on more than twenty five scholarships. So as much
as there might be a mass exodus at that school
where there's a coaching change, there also could be a
you know, a mass inclusion of people who sign up
who are high school recruits and and you know transfer
portal or college guys you're bringing on. So it's again
there's no perfect answer, but I do think the portal
(29:58):
is is one of the things that's a loud inducement.
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Let's go to the news desk. Look, here's Brady Quinny
and you guys know this behind the scenes. I usually
don't send the articles ahead of time because I'd like
you to react, you know, just in the moment to
what you're being presented. This one was different. I put
(31:52):
fourth this article talking about Madonna and the n f
T that she's created. Now, I might eat of help
and describing it, but basically, the the sixty three year
old Queen of Pop has created an n f T,
a non fungible token with artists people, and it's her naked.
(32:16):
And there's various videos and images, but in one particular
one there's butterflies coming out of her private area. In
another one there's a tree growing out of it there
in some sort of lab. It is over. Yeah, it's
quite provocative, I'll put it that way. Yeah. Um, what's
(32:39):
the name of the artist again? You can go twice
as high? Well, the name of the people is like
who she created it with, But Mike Winkleman, I believe
is the creator with people creator People and Winkleman both
apply don evidence underrated movie. Yeah, yeah, sixty three years old. Um,
(33:10):
you know she got popular with it, so why not
continue on to to leverage it. She's sixty three, you know,
I mean, but I mean, at what point do you
just accept that that's who Madonna is? I mean, except
for those who know who she is, they know that
butterflies and trees are level to I think the premises.
(33:32):
I just I don't need to see the basement all
right at sixty three years old, you know what I mean?
Some people want to see the basement sixty three years old.
We just don't happen to fall into that category of
join it. I mean, is this an artist or artistic
move in your mind? Or is this? I mean, because
this is going to live on forever and for everything
(33:55):
but Donna has done. It's just you're sixty three, Like
I would think as you get older, this would not
be the direction you would. Yeah, like she could still
write songs, right, I mean you never loved her. Thing
is not what you guys are trying to make it.
Her thing is what it's always been. Her sexuality. She's
(34:17):
a free she She is free with it and she
she embraces it. And that's what so many people loved
about her. Like she was if you really think about
where we are in society today, she was really ahead
of her time, like big time, Like people like her
(34:37):
and like Grace Jones comes to mind, like people that
had like over the top, like strong sexuality, you know,
with their identities. I mean that was in a time
before it was really you know, acceptable, and you know,
so you're saying, like the stuff coming out of us. Yes,
that's correct. That it doesn't look like she kind of
(35:00):
toots and then the butterflies come out. It does look
like that that there there is a uh yeah, gas
like it's like an elegant crop duster. Yeah it was.
It was a slow motion. Yeah, we're getting trouble. How
(35:21):
about this? By the way, you know, obviously the the
Ukraine Russian War still going on, and more and more
people are throwing their support standing with Ukraine, in particular
Little Darlings, which is a strip club outside of Las Vegas,
and they're they're looking forward to hiring uh strippers, in
particular those who are of from Ukraine. They're trying to
(35:44):
promote it to make sure they can uh continue to
support the Ukrainian efforts and the Ukrainian people here in
the United States. And it's this is Las Vegas, she said,
this is outside of Las Vegas. Go ahead and take
a look. Just some research here. It's called at Old
Darling Darlings. UM big Now auditioning Ukrainian strippers, I mean,
(36:07):
how many people are going to be fake in the resume? Now?
I mean that that feels like a real opportunity here.
It's a valid question I mean, how how much Ukrainian
do you have to be in order to be considered
a Ukrainian point? Because you did your twenty three and
me and you have everything from Egyptian to Italian to
everything that wasn't Egyptian. I was that was a right
(36:28):
interesting Bangladesh? But what else was on? Alright? So why
do those places have such tall, big signs to be
seen from anywhere? Curious? Little darling was a big old
wouldn't you want a little discreet so guys you didn't
have to wear a hooded sweater when they walked in,
(36:49):
you know, like, wouldn't you like you'd want, you know,
something a little bit more private, you know, like, yeah,
we don't need to show everybody what this is. Clearly
they do more than just try to help Ukrainians. Uh,
this situation I'm looking at right here is pay your
way through College with a picture of a young lady
on the um. Yeah I didn't see that. Can I
(37:11):
get your password? Labar? This one says Corona virus free
lap dance. So so I'm speaking of people who are
supporting Ukraine check out account. Cool cool sowner Jimmers Say
is now the proud owner of a baseball signed by
Ukrainian President um Zelinsky. And he paid a whopping fifty
(37:35):
thousand dollars for this, uh, this baseball signed by Zelinski
and apparently more than fifteen hundred or excuse me, fifteen
thousand will be donated to relief efforts in Ukraine. So
why why is the Ukrainian president signing a baseball? Why
is buying it? I mean, I don't know, he could
(37:56):
just don't. He doesn't. He doesn't need to buy the
baseball to then donate, like you could just donate fifteen
dollars donate. It is Jimmer Say a hoarder. And we
uncovered that he's a horder because he's got his hands
on everything when it comes to memorabili and this and that.
What do you think his house looks like? I mean,
we know he you know, the uh back in the day,
(38:16):
the trash bag in the backseat and all that. Is
He just a hoarder, is Jim. He's got a baseball collection.
Apparently it's called the Jimmer Says Collection and it's gonna
be on displaying in Manhattan. But the ball was projected
to go for fifteen thousand. It obviously went for fifty
thousand and I believe there are thirty five total bits
placed on it. So, I mean, um, can we go
back to Little Darlings? I mean, dude, hand sanitizer wrestling.
(38:42):
I mean that was advertised eyes. That's kind that kind
of promotion that would burn your eyes, wouldn't it. Yeah,
among other things, drive through lap dances. I guess that
was during COVID shot to Drap lap Day. Let's go.
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