How does getting older effects your outdoor activities? Finally, over/under par explained for beginners

In this episode Doug talks about staying active in hunting, fishing, and golf while getting older. What are some of the things you can do to enjoy the outdoors as you get older? Next time you go on a hike or a trail walk try not to get lost. Doug and callers suggest the one thing you might want to bring with you. Make sure you listen to show to get this tip. Remember catching birds with a box and a slice of bread. Reminiscing of the youthful days, setting traps as kids. Could this be the prerequisite to hunting? If you could fish with just one lure in brackish water what would it be? What it the one bait Doug would use for catching speckled trout? Doug expresses how we should deal with grief after the lost of a friend. Be sure to listen in order to find out the ansewer to all these questions and more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
American Shooting Centers Guns Shooting at Instruction since nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right. Sunday editions of the
program starts right now. Thank you all for listening. I
certainly do appreciate it as you might.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
You must know, you.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Must know how much I enjoy coming in here and
doing this. Otherwise, well I don't know what else I
would do. I enjoy talking about the outdoors. For many, many,
many many years. I have enjoyed writing about the outdoors
and concurrently visiting the outdoors pretty much in any way,
shape or form. And I'm still accept pickleball. I can't

(00:44):
do that, and I have a number of reasons. One
it's just I've actually tried it. I tried to play
a little bit with my son and some of his friends,
tried playing it a little bit with some adults, and
it just doesn't speak to me.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
And if it does to you, then more power to you.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I have no issues with people who love it, who
are passionate about it, who play it all the time.
That's fine, but bear in mind that it also pickleball
has become pretty much the leading cause of injuries among seniors,
and that in and of itself is enough to scare

(01:27):
the pants off of me. I don't want to. I
don't want to jeopardize my ability to walk through a
muddy rice field, my ability to swing a golf club.
I don't want to jeopardize anything that would keep me
from hunting and fishing and playing golf for as long

(01:50):
as I can. I talked to a guy just the
other day. He said, Man, I may have to quit.
I may have to quit fishing. Why Why would you
have to do that. My knees are so bad. I
can hardly I can hardly stand up in the boat
all day. Well, didn't stand up for half a day.
Just don't go fishing all day. That might change your
life in all kinds of ways if you didn't fish

(02:11):
all day when you went.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
But it's hard. It's hard not to.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's hard to slow down when you've been doing something
as long as I have, like hunting and fishing and golf,
and I just I don't know. It'll be very hard
on me. That may be the beginning of the end
for me. I think, Melvin. If I come to a
point where I can't go hunting or fishing anymore. You know. No,
that's selfish of me. And I'm thinking about people who

(02:41):
who are worse off than me, and who don't have
the physical strength or don't have for whatever reason, they
can't still go. And I'm thinking, Okay, if I can't
still go, I'm going to live vicariously through people who can.
I'm gonna I'm gonna call my friends who are still fishing.

(03:02):
I'm gonna talk to them about it. I'm gonna call
my friends who still hunt. I'm gonna ask them how
many ducks or deer or geese or whatever quail they
saw that day. And I'll just I'll just do that.
Lord knows, I have not been cheated in my many, many,
many years in the outdoors. I've been afforded some amazing opportunities,
and I've taken advantage of most of them, and I

(03:25):
feel really good about about that.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
There are things on my bucket list.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
There are, but if I don't get to them, I'm
not gonna feel cheated. I made a lot of trips
to a lot of places over the last forty years,
and I can't recall any place where it was just
horrible and the potential for horribleness, which isn't really a word,

(03:52):
but the potential for that was a trip I took
down to.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
On some Honduras, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
We got down there and within thirty six hours of
our arrival a little tropical storm that was supposed to
go another way came our way. And for the first
four days of the almost week we were there, it
was pretty much just kind of hanging around, hanging around

(04:21):
camp because we couldn't take the boats out because it
was blowing and raining every stinking day, and those of
us who had cabin fever walked around in the jungle
a little bit and found ways to busy ourselves. But
it wasn't until the very last day when we had

(04:42):
half a day left to maybe salvage something out of
the trip, and then had to go back, jump on
a boat and go back to the airport. And that's
how we got to the airport, by the way, was
by boat. I think we might have had a little
shuttle somewhere between where we stopped riding in the boat
and got on the airplane, but it wasn't far. Bottom

(05:06):
line is that day, that last few hours the sun
broke through. Everything turned around and we scrambled. It was
like scrambling fighter jets because there were incoming enemy planes,
and we were in those boats and on those flats
as fast as we could be. And I still have

(05:26):
a little picture of me holding up what could only
be described as a little pocket bonefish, something you could hide. Well,
I'd take two hands. This thing was maybe twelve fourteen
inches long in hindsight, but it's a bonefish, and that's
what we were there to catch that and a lot

(05:48):
of other things. And so I finally got that one,
and I was pretty dog one, glad to have it,
thankful for what I got out of that trip. Saw
it was a beautiful place. I saw beautiful. I would
love to have gone back there at some point. But
about two years later, a real weather system pulled through

(06:08):
there one summer and pretty much wiped the whole lodge
off the side of the mountain.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
It was just gone. Nobody got hurt.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I heard through the grapevine, but the lodge and all
that came with it down there was just mud in
the water after that. Amazing little, amazing little place it was.
But it wasn't the best trip in the world, but
we made what we could out of it. I've done
that every time I go fishing. Lately, I'm on a

(06:39):
kind of a rough streak. I haven't caught much lately.
I haven't caught many fish lately. It's not that I
haven't tried, but I haven't caught many fish. And I
think the downside is best exhibited at the golf course
where I try to fish, where my son and I
used to routinely catch thirty forty fish in an afternoon,
and then came drum roll, please the cormorants. They took

(07:03):
up residents there, said you know what, we want to
fish here too, and you can't stop us. And we couldn't.
And there's still been no measures taken to keep those
birds away from those lakes. And so for the last
several times actually that I've tried to fish those lakes,
I haven't even gotten a bite. I haven't even gotten

(07:24):
a bite. And this is once again. These are there's
two lakes, and both of them used to be. One
of them used to be the Numbers lake. It was
it wasn't good for any really giant fish, but you
could go out there and catch, like I said, three
four dozen one to five pound bass in a two

(07:44):
hour afternoon. You also could go to the other lake
and if you targeted a little bit bigger fish and
changed your tactics just a little bit like I used to,
it wasn't uncommon for me to catch three or four
fish that would go say five to eight or nine pounds.

(08:05):
I have one for sure legit ten pounder out of
the place, and Billy ray Brown fishes across the fence
at an adjacent club, and he sent me pictures of
for sure ten pounder that he caught out there one
day too, And then we share that the two clubs
share the lake. So that was the big fish Lake.

(08:25):
Now it's the no fish lake because of those birds.
I'll find a way, maybe I can personally go out
there and just show them all off one day, maybe
put some salt on their tails. Were you ever told
that as a kid, Melbourne? You remember that? Yes? I
remember you ever try to do it and sneaking around
in the backyard with a salt shaker in your hand
trying to sneak up on birds? No, my gosh, did

(08:47):
you ever try to catch one in a cardboard box
with a little stick holding it up? I was successful?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Did you really you got one?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You're one up on me. Man with pigeons, Well, they're
not the brightest birds in the sky. Well you know
that's okay though, living in New Orleans, that's all.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Oh yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, just rats with wings basically, Yeah, they really are.
So what did you bait this trap of yours with?
Sun bean bread?

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Man, some beam bread. We had some beam over here too.
I used that. I used I thought one time bread
crumbs might be better, you know, the kind you put
in the turkey stuff in and all that. I tried
many times in the backyard. I'd curl up in the bushes,
got the string in my hands, man, just waiting to
pull that stick out and drop that box on top

(09:37):
of that bird. I never got one. Let me ask
you this, how long did that pigeon stay in that
box before it just blew its way out of there? Well,
it stayed in there for a pretty good long time.
So you were able to get over to it, yes, okay,
we were. It was a pretty heavy box. Oh okay,
so what you cheating? Use a wood box? No, we
didn't use the wood creeks, just.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
A cinder block. Oh my gosh, I'm amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's great. Man, you're the first person I've ever talked
to who actually did catch a bird in the box.
That's hilarious. Not to be confused with the Saturday Night
sketch Saturday Night Live sketch that we won't talk about never. Yeah.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I would be happy to hear from one in all
of you.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
As this two hour program today starts and finishes, we'll
fit wrap it up at ten o'clock. This is the
last show of the old year before the first show
of the new year, by the way, which I found
kind of just bizarrely interesting. That's how my brain works.
And actually the first show of the new year is
going to be fifty plus on January the second. I'm

(10:48):
coming back for that Thursday and Friday, only because being
away from here for me is kind of like a
rubber band. The farther it stretches, the longer I'm away
from the studio and from the microphone, the more I
want to get back to it. I truly miss doing
these shows, I really do. And I want to make

(11:09):
sure that you understand that you are all parts of
this program, and your calls and your emails. Emails working
by the way today, that's all the technical stuff we'll
talk about. There was a scare early, but somehow it
fixed itself. I restarted my computer. Have you rebooted your computer?
That's my it impression. Have you unplugged it and plugged

(11:31):
it back in? That's another one. Yeah. So anyway, the
bottom line is we're full up and running. I started
getting emails this morning at four to ten am thanks
to my digital newspaper delivery, and it's been humming pretty
good ever since. I think half of my vacation time
I'm going to spend deleting old and useless emails because

(11:54):
I have a lot of them. Again, they piled up,
and I'll get that knocked out. In between gaulf and fishing.
I have a little of everything planned for this this
abbreviated when you take out Christmas Eve and Christmas Day
and New Year's Day.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Well, New Year's Day, I don't my wife and.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I aren't going to any midnight party on New Year's
but still, yeah, I'll watch some football and I don't
know what else we'll do. Maybe my son and I'll
go play some golf. I don't know, but I am
gonna try to squeeze in a little of everything in
whatever's left of the days I have. I'll take tomorrow off,
I'll take yeah, all the way through next week. It's

(12:35):
gonna be different. Let me it's holy cow, all of
a sudden, here they are. I'm gonna get Bob, and
then I'm gonna ask Brandon to maybe hold on. Let's
do this, Bob, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Line's real quick, Doug, you brought up for an interesting subject. Okay,
what is your bucket list? I know you've done about everything.
We share that with.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Me off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Giant Travalli over in the Pacific, somewhere in the middle
of the Pacific.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I would love to go catch them.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
They're just amazing fish and just just like a Jack
Kravll on steroids.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I'm too old to.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Pick snappers.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh yeah, I punted on big amberjacks years ago too.
I just I just got my butt whipped by way
too many of those. I just said no, and I
started passing off the passing off the rod. Yeah, yeah,
it's an easy.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Life, rotten real and roll over past Jack Graville.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yet my rod.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
When I just clicked at one any attention, he took everything.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
You blink and they're gone. Man, they're tough fish. They're
a lot of fun, they really are. The guys in
Florida just go crazy over jacks. If they can find
a school of jacks, they'll follow it all day long.
And me, I'm just saying, take a left over here.
It's either take a left or take a right, but
don't follow them.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Uh honey, go bugget Lod said, its really weird, real quick.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Sorry.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
I have never shot a goose in Texas, and I've
been on several hunts.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Never got a chance.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
That's my If I could ever find a good outfitter
that handles older semi handicap I would probably do it.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
But well, I'm telling you, jake it out.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Call Mitchell Holder that God that I'm going down there
again on the twenty eighth, and maybe again on the
twenty ninth, and call Mitchell. He can do that. They've
got these big, giant, marsh buggy things that just take
you right out to the field and drop you right off.
When I did a duck hunt with him a few
weeks ago, I said, do I need to bring hip boots?
Waiters knee boots. What he said, you can wear knee boots.

(14:47):
We're gonna drive you right up to the blind. So
there you go, shut out. Yeah, I rolled a specklebelly
that day. As a matter of fact, that was one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I would say that's as good a shot as you've got.
Go down there, tell him, I said, the call and
tell them what you're up against.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Say, man, I just need one. I don't need I
don't need fifty geese.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I just need one. Yeah, one of my limits. One. Yeah,
I'll hook you up.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Don't worry, okay, Marshall Holder.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Mitchell Holder, Mitchell, Yeah, tell you what you have a life?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, hold on, let me let me put you on
hold and get into this break and then I'll get
Melvin to tell you his number.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Okay, all right, yeah, hang on, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, hold on, Melvin, I'm gonna try to do it. No,
you put him on hold, Melvin, All right, Brandon, you're
gonna have to hold on for a little bit, buddy. Okay, Melvin,
you get that. Can you put Bob on?

Speaker 8 (15:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
There we go, all right, all the way. Oh boy,
nice place to go. I'm thinking about that. Actually during
my vacation time. I'm gonna slide out ninety.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston, Sports online at
sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Back back to the Doug Pike Show. Hey twenty four
on Sports Talk seven ninety, The Doug Pike has promise.
I'm going to get to Brandon here in this second.
He's been on hold since Hillary thought she was president.
Let me get down the dumb brand. Oh what is up,
my friend? I'm okay, I'm good playing play my game?

(16:17):
Oh yeah, what game you playing today?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Golf?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Are you now? Is that the like we golf? No,
it's like a iPad golf.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh are you going to play real golf today?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's an iPad game? Oh no, no iPad. I'm sorry
I said I thought you said I play golf. It's
iPad golf. Yeah, there's a couple of good ones on there. Huh.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Are you good at it?

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Yes? I can make it to the whole Nice.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
What's your best score so far? Seventy? That's just really good, man.
That happens to be exactly the same low score I
ever shot in real golf off exactly seventy. That's the
only round I've ever gotten under par two and I
was so I was happy that day. I really was, man,

(17:09):
So what's on your holiday schedule this this fine Sunday morning, Brandon.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
We're gonna my mom's some presents.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Ah, that's a good idea. I got a few to
wrap for my wife. It's gonna take a while. She
gave me a pretty long list this year, but I'll
get to him. Well, Hey, Brando, I got Rick and
David need I need to visit with them as well.
They've been on hold, just like you or for a
pretty long time. Okay, I'm gonna get to them and
I'll talk to you in twenty twenty five? Holy cow,

(17:43):
would you chout to traffic guy? I said, Hi, I
will absolutely. I gotta sky Mike. No, He's yeah, that's true. Yeah,
I'm not sure who's doing it today. I'll figure it
out for you. Pearnel Carson. Okay, Yeah, we'll shout out

(18:07):
to Parnell in a little bit and let him know.
You said.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Hello, all right, partner, I gotta run.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Merry Christmas and happy happy New Year to your Brandon.
See you, buddy, audios. All right, Rick's been holding the
longest since then, Rick, what's up? My friend.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I was gonna try to find time. Allows to tell
you about two things. One is Melviney and I have
a lot in common because I used to trap birds
with a box. Gosh, but I know you and I
are You're a part in age. And I would used
to ride my bike down to the little family grocery

(18:46):
store and all the oranges and the grapefruits came in
in wooden boxether by wire sure magether by wire member
and I would come home take the lid off of them.
And I didn't use a string. I had a Somebody

(19:07):
showed me, I'm I mean this is back in the
mid six Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
And they showed me how to make a thing out
of wood. You had to knock it out. It was
shaved like the number four.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I've seen that, and so you one the end of
it pointed under the box, right and I he and
I used the.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Same bait, some bean bread.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
And that thing I called I called Actually I caught
squirrels and rabbits in those kind of ball Now I'm
real quick. I caught something I didn't. I thought it
was the biggest field mark I've ever seen. In my life.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
But it was a very small red tail halt.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Oh wow wow.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
And I reached in there and tried to grab me.
And I'm looking at it. On my right hand. I
have two scars on my thumb.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'll bet you do.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I'm sixty seven and seven eight years old and they're
still there.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
This dude tore me up and no clue what it was.
The other thing is real quick. I was at the
courthouse yesterday and I'm doing some research in A friend
of mine call me, says where he at? I said,
I'm in Rentom. Well, he said, well, come on down
here to my lease over here on the river. I
got to show you something. You gotta sit. You gotta sit.

(20:33):
So I said, yeah, I want to see it. He
was too excited enough to go. So we go, and
I'm talking fast. Here. We get this truck. We drive
down to the river and we walked down about fifty
yards and it kind of made a turn and there
was a big hump the waters down a little bit.
The waters for the muddy brass. This river is pretty clear. Yeah,
and he says, what do you He said, you see

(20:55):
them too long? Right down there?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
And I've been over.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I look, I said, those aren't lost. Those are monster
pull loose a catfish, holy ca. Yeah, he says, I've
ordered on Amazon and be here tomorrow a spear gun.
Oh yeah, he said, I'm gonna hit anyone. I said, really,
I said, what are you gonna tether? The string on

(21:20):
your mouth?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Your arrow?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
He what I'm on on my wrist. I said, I
said you you're gonna be south. You're gonna be south
to Fort ben County. Because I said, think about this,
It'd be like getting on a horse bareback with no
bridle and a dead run an take you wherever the
heck he wants to take you.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And you're tied to his neck.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Wherever.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
But anyway, I said, why don't I said, I got
a better suggestion now, And I told him, I said,
if I didn't like you, I wouldn't tell you this.
I said, because you're fixing to die. Yeah, I said.
What I would do is i would go to a
caad to me or somewhere, and I'm getting me some
hundred pound trot line dring that that that mike string,

(22:09):
and I would I would extend that tether. And I said,
just run it over about fifteen through above us and
tied off on that big willow tree.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, man, holy cow, I want to know. I want
to know the end of that story when he finally
gets back there, and just tell him to forget the
spear gun idea that that never ends.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, it doesn't, man, I've done some of that.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, I've tried spear gunning on the Guadaloopi River, candition.
I kind of learned that lesson one time. Anyways, that's
that was. There's just something I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's right, trick. I'll see you, buddy, Merry Christmas, Holy cow.
Let me catch David before the break man. He's been
there a long time too, David. Thanks for hanging on, buddy.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, Doug, this is gonna take a little ball.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
I wants you go ahead to go to break.

Speaker 10 (22:59):
All right, that's I'm good with that too. We are
Sports Talk seven ninety. Listen online at Sports seven ninety
dot com. Now more Doug fight.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Hey thirty six on Sports Off seven ninety. Welcome back,
Thanks for listening. Let's get to my new board offering
on one second, David, can we come to you now?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh man, I told Melvin you better watch it better
work hard man.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
You got somebody on his heels, now you know how
that works?

Speaker 9 (23:34):
No, No, I know you want to stay on I
listened to you long enough to know that you really
like to stay on schedule and take those commercial breaks
when you when you need to. What I wanted to
call you about. You know, father time is undefeated. And
we both learned a long time ago that we can't
physically do what we used to do. And one thing
I kind of I learned this weekend, as that goes

(23:56):
for me, that we don't think as.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Quick as we used to as well.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
Uh but uh, my wife and I went out to
Lost Maples State Park and did some walking this past
this weekend, and.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Uh uh I'm you know.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
And part of that and getting older is you have
to do things that you used to not have to
do because you just were you know you. Anyway, we
ended up walking a mile further than we did should
have because I made I made a wrong term. I mean,
this is all it was. I made a wrong term.
Had a map, had a map, had a compass, and uh,

(24:36):
normally that wouldn't be around here. Next a mile wouldn't
be a bad deal. But when after you've climbed one
of those hills over there. Keep grade, Yes, sir, you
know you've went in four miles and now you make
a wrong turn and you you know your wife's ready
to get back, and you're you just took her a
mile away. Yeah, but uh, anyway, I thought. You know,

(24:56):
one of the things they teach you when you're younger
is you take your if you've got a map, you
take it map, take a compass, and you lay it
down on the comp on the map, orient the map
and the compass north, and then you write down your
uh right down to the bearings that you need to
be especially when you come to an intersection, you write
down the bearing.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
That you should be going.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah. Yeah, we do the.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Same thing when we're driving sometimes that we look we
know what, we know what we should be heading. We
look at our compass or whatever, and we say, this
ain't right. We're not going in the right direction. And uh,
if I had done that, if I had before we left,
did exactly what I said, wrote down on each turn,
each inter you know, jumps where you should be going

(25:40):
to your new bearing, it wouldn't have happened in this
particular case. Most of our route was southwest. When we
got to that intersection, I thought, again, you know, sixty
five years old. Okay, we keep going south, you know,
you turn and go southeast and uh so, anyway we
got I had this old it said, getting old is

(26:01):
just a matter of inconvenience.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Boy.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, and we.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
Just we just have to be more careful physically and
mentally then we used to.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
It's getting old is an inconvenient luxury. When you stop
and think about it. It hurts a little bit sometimes,
but it's so much better than the alternative, you know,
it really is. I don't mind that I hurt a
little bit sometimes. I don't mind that I can't do
some of the things. Now in my head, I can
still do everything, but as soon as my body gets involved,

(26:36):
check in with the body. Hey man, we're gonna go
do this today. No you're not. Oh no, no, you're
not going to do it. But considering the alternative when
I've still got things on my list, yeah, I got
I'm just glad to wake up in the morning. I
really am. I really am.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:52):
That's a good that's a good point. You know, Physically,
we have to we have to make compensation for what
for what we can't do physically. I think the same
is true mentally, Doug. We kind of have to make
compensation for that, and it might mean doing things that
we didn't used to have to do to remember and
to uh, you know, to think.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
About post it notes around the house.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Are you there yet?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well? I probably do this.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
I will put I will put my keys near something
that I don't want to forget. Oh yeah, I know,
you know, we play these little nine games just to
help ourselves.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Anything I need, anything I need to put in the car,
is under my keys. I guarantee you, man, I'm not
gonna split them up, because if I do, I'll walk
right past my calendar. I'll walk right past anything that
I needed to have in the car. And if it's
not near my phone, or if it's not near my keys,

(27:48):
it doesn't stand a chance, no matter how important it is.
All right, Yeah, thank you, David. I appreciate the call man. Yeah,
he brings up some really really good points. And for
those of you who are young and thinking, oh, that
will never happen to me, it'll happen to you sooner
or later. Melbourne, have you got any issues yet forgetting things?

(28:10):
You're too young?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, I'm getting there, are you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
You got post it notes around the house.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Now, sometimes I misplaced the keys.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know what, Here, I'll give you a very good
way to know.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
And this will make you comfortable and confident, because I
guarantee you're not to this point yet. I've done so
many interviews about dementia on fifty plus that there's some
things kind of I hear them and they say and
they'll tell me something that's okay. But there's one really
key element to know whether you're whether your cheese has

(28:41):
truly slid off your cracker already? Okay, I said, I
was talking to this doctor one day and I just
kind of gave her for example, Yeah, for example, every
now and then I'll misplace my keys.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Is that a sign of cognitive impairment?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And she said, no, not really that if you misplaced
your keys, everybody does that from time to time. The
problem would be that if you picked up your keys
and you didn't remember what they were for. Oh ah, No,
that's way different, isn't it. Yes, congratulations, you found your keys.

(29:17):
Uh what do these two? That would be a problem. Yeah,
that's that's a red flag. Yeah. So anyway, so if
you lose your keys every now and then. It's just
you're just normal. You've got too much going on and
you can't juggle it all. There's no such thing, by
the way, as multitasking. Your brain has to toggle back
and forth between the tasks. That's something else I've learned.

(29:39):
What were are my glasses? Oh man? Can't find my glasses? Yeah?
And then you check your face in there. Yeah, and
yet the room is so clear. The good thing, I've
got good focus right now. Help me find my glasses.
Oh man. You know, I'm at the point right now
where I'm starting to bring reading glasses with me, especially

(30:02):
if I'm going fly fishing, to tie the real fine
knots onto the little tiny flies and stuff like that.
I can still tie normal knots and four or five
fishing knots that i'll use more more or less regularly.
I can still tie them without glasses. But as the
light tends starts to fade or very early in the morning,

(30:26):
I'll reach for those readers.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That'll just it'll keep me from having to wait until
the sun's overhead and miss all the whole missed the
whole bite because I can't tie not That's that's horrible.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
All right, we gotta take a little break here on
the way out.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I'm gonna remind you.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
Of your Rockets and Astros live here. We are Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 10 (30:46):
The conversation continues, this as the Doug Fike Show.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, a lot of that eight we were making weird noises.
Melvine just made one. I made one earlier. I was
remembering something I saw online the other day, some social
media site. Some young guy, some teenager, making really weird
like synthesizer sounds vocally and good for him. I'm not

(31:13):
sure what kind of a life skill that is, but whatever.
I do have some sad news for fishermen around here
who have been who are in my age group and
maybe a little bit younger and a little bit older
somewhere in there. I got news from Captain Scott just
a few minutes ago that Wendy Marshall passed away. He

(31:34):
was man. He was a hard working dude, one of
the best in the business. He fished out an eagle
point down there at San Leon forever.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Probably close to five decades and.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Scrolling down sea from what was provided by the people
down there, he just said, in over fifteen years of
working with Wendy. He never missed one day of work.
He was late three times, but if you ask Wendy,
it was only once. And when you're taking four am
wake up calls, that's pretty darn good. It was a

(32:09):
hard working, hard pushing man, and he knew his way
around that whole Bay system as good as anybody ever did. Oh,
it's tough. It's really tough this time of year for
anyone to be taken away from us. I lost my
mother between Christmas and New Years nine years ago. My

(32:32):
father in law passed away on the same date between
that was just last year, just one year removed from that.
So I did an interview about that just this week
actually on fifty plus though. And if your family or
some friend is going through something like that, just know

(32:54):
that it's okay to bring up the person who's passed away.
It's okay to remember them fondly for whatever good reason
you can to bring it up. You don't want to
try to sweep it under rug or hide it.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
It becomes the elephant in.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
The room and it becomes far more awkward than saying, gosh,
I remember when he or she or whatever pulled that
prank on somebody or did a kind thing for somebody,
or what a great mom she was or what a
great dad he was or whatever. Just just let the
process continue. And grief is grief is something you have

(33:33):
to kind of take on and deal with, and everybody's
going to do it differently. But it's okay, especially if
if you were close to that person as well as
the closer, it's okay to bring them up. It really is.
Seven one three two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. I had a couple of more

(33:55):
things I wanted to talk about. Oh, by the way,
if you're interested in when exactly you're gonna have to
stop hunting for a particular game animal and you don't
want to have to go look it up, I went
ahead and printed out the whole sheet of hunting seasons,
and we've got we've still got a good amount of
time that we can spend in the field no matter
what we're chasing around other Well, there are a couple

(34:18):
of exceptions, but you get you know, there is still
this the one that just gets my attention and I've
never I've never even thought about hunting this species, but
I think to make myself a well rounded Texas hunter.
At some point, I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna

(34:38):
go have to I'm gonna try to get one of
those wily chatcha lakas. Have you ever heard of that Melbourne?
Is that like a candy bar or something. No, it's
a game bird, candy bar, A lot of chaka. No,
that'd be the candy bar, a lot of choka. No,
this is a chaka laka. And I I wouldn't know

(35:01):
one if it crawled into the room right now I heard, Well,
it's it's I'm I'm gonna guess it's kind of an
upland looking thing, like a grouse, or it's kind of
a I don't know, look him up and yeah, now
c h A c h A l A c A
you find it look kind of it's it's just a

(35:23):
big old, plump looking bird. I would imagine. Yeah, it's said,
I almost look like a oh go you know.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
And every year around this time I look him up.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I look him up, I look at a picture of
him and all that stuff and then partridge something. Yeah
is it in a pear tree? Yeah? Do I know?
Just check it right in any event, Yeah, thank you
Scott for letting me know about Wendy. I can remember

(35:53):
talking to him on the phone down there two dozen times.
I can remember talking to him when he needs to
be standing behind the counter. There's a good chat. I
don't remember exactly, but I want to say I fished
with him at least once or twice on Galveston Bay somewhere,
because I was at Eagle Point. I wasn't a regular.

(36:15):
I wasn't there every weekend, but I was there several
times a year for a good many years when I
was still writing for the newspaper.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Oh, I'm sorry to see him go.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
He was of the era when the Galveston Bay system,
the fishery in Galveston Bay was kind of like what
used to be the prairie for waterfowl hunters. Galveston Bay
had a lot of fish in it, and a lot
of those fish were really big. And it's changed, but
it's changing for the better. And actually I'm working on

(36:49):
a story now for saltwater sportsmen about our trout fishery
and how good it is now and how much better
it potentially is going to get, so long as we
dodge in the catastrophic weather events. For a next just
a couple of years, it'd be all it would take.
Now that, now that the rules have changed and are

(37:09):
overwhelmingly set up to protect the biggest trout that we've
got out there, it's gonna be something. It's really gonna
be something. Everybody I've talked to, regardless of experience, to eat.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
The young people who don't know what it was before.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
The older fishermen amongst us, guys my age in ten
years either way, maybe fifteen years back, still be old
guys to the real incoming group. The bottom line is,
if you don't know what it was before, you can
still appreciate what it's going to become. And if if
you were there to see what I saw when I

(37:49):
was getting started at the paper and getting to jump
into the boats of some really really good GUIDs around here,
it's gonna be It's gonna be a treat. It's going
to be quite the tree. They're going to be some
really big trout cruising around, and I, for one, intend
to take advantage of that. That's not something I've got
to get on a jet plane in five fifteen miles

(38:10):
to go go catch like a giant Trevali somewhere g
two already Melbourne. I was gonna do that, but I'll
do it now just for you because it's the holidays
and all.

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Speaker 2 (38:34):
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Speaker 3 (38:37):
Second hour of the program starts right now.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Melvin. Melvin flagged me down right as we went into
the last break, So man, your Mike's still hot again.
And that's the second time. And it's kind of like
my vacation days. It's using them or losing Melvin. I
gotta make some mistakes. I haven't made any mistakes all year,
if you really think back, not a single one.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Well, no, I couldn't. I couldn't convince.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Anyone who's listened to this program for probably more than
an hour that I haven't made any mistakes this year,
because I have and I do, and it just they
are what they are, and that's the beauty of live radio.
All the not all, but many of the interviews I
get for fifty plus. The guests want me there and

(39:20):
they're handlers especially, want me to send them my questions beforehand,
and to which my answer is always no thanks.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Because I say, I'll tell them.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Look, I'm not I'm not going to jump out of
the bushes and yell surprise with some question. I'm not
going to ask you anything inappropriate, anything weird, anything difficult.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
You're an expert in a subject.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
That I'm going to stick to your subject and your
area of expertise.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And it's as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And I have a little qualifier, and this is inside knowledge.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
If ever I ask someone a question and they say, I'll.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Have to get back to you on that, that's my
code for okay, I'll just move on. And I did no,
no questions asked. I'm I'm not I'm not interrogating these people.
I'm welcoming them into the show so that they can
share knowledge with us.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
And that goes for this show.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
To anybody I'm talking to on this show, if they
don't want to answer a question, I'm not gonna not
gonna hold their feet to the fire.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It's unfair.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
They're given me their time so that you and I
can all benefit from it. And yeah, I'm not gonna
beat anybody up for that. That wouldn't be fair at all.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
So I make mistakes, everybody makes mistakes.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And Melbourn's Melbourn, you've got some You've got some credits,
some credit mistake credits too. Yeah, you hadn't used all
yours up yet.

Speaker 12 (40:46):
Yeah, you know, I'm the year isn't over yet, so
well that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Was this last time you'll have to worry about making
one around me? That's for sure. Didn't We'll start some
new ones next year.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
So rick By sent Melvin and me.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Diagrams and instructions on how to build a dead fall
figure four dead fall trap, and I saw I was
telling Melvin during the break that I saw somebody actually
make one of these. It was either on Survivor or
Naked and Afraid or something like that. But it's a
great way to catch something, some little animal if you're

(41:25):
really hungry and you really need to get some stuff
to eat.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And someday I might that might be something.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I would do if I was just bored to tears,
sitting in the woods somewhere and could find a big
enough rock, try to whittle those little sticks into that
figure four and just create one, just to see if
I could do it. I don't know what I would
Maybe I would use sunbeam bread. I could do that
or better yet, really to keep it more contemporary, Melvin,

(41:54):
I have an idea. So here's the deal. We're going
to try to build at some point one of those
figure four dead fall traps. Inter see if we can
catch ourselves a bird. But we're not gonna use sunbeam bread. Okay,
we're gonna keep it more contemporary, keep it more more real.
And what we're gonna use is gluten free Keto artisan bread.

(42:16):
Oh wow, Yeah, because birchs. You know, we don't want
to mess them up. No, we gotta think of them
and keep them healthy. Well, of course, I guess that
that kind of negates the effects of the figure four
dead fall trap. It's gonna smash it right into the ground.
Let me never mind. We're not building any trap, and
I'm not eating any gluten free bread either. Stuffing the
bird before with yeah, pre stuff it now, you're thinking,

(42:40):
just get the fires tarted, meloving the rocks down right,
We're gonna eat tonight feathers and all. Baby, how hungry
would you have to be to eat the feathers? That'd
be that take a lot. And you could use the
quill to pick your teeth.

Speaker 12 (42:55):
Though, no, we don't. We don't want the feathers. Okay,
that's an interference.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Let me go get Dave.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Dave, pull us out of this mess.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
We're in man. Hey.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Well, first, I'd like to say I've heard of Wendy
Marshall forever. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yes, sir, yeah, no, yeah, yeah,
good people. Yeah, you know right now, I got two
dogs played with each other over here. I might to
buy the grocery store here, but there, I don't know.
They're having fun anyway. They're wrestling around.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
But uh now, yeah, yeah they are.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
They're like wrestling these there's just trade dogs and yeah
they look good. Well no, anyway, Oh yeah, I'm gonna
be heading back. I'm heading back to Willis here in
just a little while.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Where are you now? Where's day?

Speaker 7 (43:45):
I'm here on Airline Drive and Little Georgan So you're
close to home. Well, it's yeah, getting out there to
Willis Is only like thirty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, city, thirty minutes. That's how long it takes to
get to the corner.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
I hear you, Hey, I know, and you know, I'm
kind of I got a storage room out there that
I'm starting to go through all the stuff at the house.
Here and I didn't find this so much and stuff.
I'm like, I only remember I had this, found a Sony.
I found a Sony portable radio lady, and uh yeah, man,

(44:23):
when you got And that's what I was gonna say too,
it'd be good to carry a radio with you if
you went out in the woods somewhere, so if you
hear a weather or alert or something that you may
be able to get out and always let the people
know where you're going. Like that time that in New Waverley,
I was going I was going to hunt and the

(44:43):
National Force and I called them and I told them, hey,
I'm at Gate number one twenty six and you know,
I'm gonna go down this trail and they have some
trails that were marked with orange flying.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, you can take you right.

Speaker 7 (44:56):
But then all of a sudden, well I know, then
it then it got and this is in the nat
Forest and you're yeah, it's like the jungle.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
So anyway, when I when I started turning around to
come back, then it started getting dark and then I
was losing the orange. And now luckily I had my phone,
so I called them up and I said, hey, haunt
from Gate one twenty six and that way will give
me a berry to get back.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You know, you hear it where you close up?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, yeah, I could hear it feeling.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
You know, it wasn't really that far. Yeah, because man,
you know I could have survived out there for one night,
but yeah, yeah, then you know what I'd do. I
just keep walking until I found a road right, and
then I would follow the road to somewhere and maybe
somebody can save.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
You know you may I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
Well, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You mentioned surveyors ribbon like that, that bright orange stuff,
that is an inexpensive life saver man, especially if you're
wandering through the woods at a place where you've never
been before. You could just tie a little piece to
a tree and then walk another twenty thirty yards, tie
a little piece to a tree, and no matter how
deep you get in those woods, you can always get

(46:10):
back to where you tie that first ribbon. And it
really I've done that on a lot of leases, and
I've never had anybody tell me, no, we don't want orange. Now,
you got to be careful because if you're in a
national force, there might be intersecting trails where people have
done this already. So maybe get a different color, maybe
mark yours with a sharpie, swipe every time.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Whatever, but it's a trail that will lead you back out.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
You go ahead.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
Hey, well we could do like Daniel Boone just marks
something on the tree.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Now, we don't do that, carbree car in the tree. No,
don't do that, man.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
No, don't do that. I mean, that's that's our pride
and joy, our national force.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Shitting man.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
You know, it's a good deal.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Well, just like I said, just think ahead of most
up and you know, and that is like you were
talking about, accidents happen. We all miss up. Nobody's perfect,
you know, come into that. But anyway, I appreciate you.
I appreciate you, and Merry Christmas to everybody again, and
we're just all doing well and that thankful for what

(47:18):
we got in the family and your family and friends.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, I think that's the biggest part. And Thanksgiving ought
to be celebrated every day of the year. Thank God
I woke up today, you know, thank God I have family,
thank God I have friends. And to anybody who doesn't
have any of that, I'm sorry, and I hope you
can find something to be thankful for as well. It's
just the fact that you're able to do what you're
talking about doing, walking through the woods, going going to

(47:41):
a store, going for a hike, whatever, going fishing, going hunting,
and playing golf. All of that is something that somebody
else in this world doesn't have. And so just we've
got to remember that, right, all right, buddy. Yeah, Merry
Christmas Day.

Speaker 7 (47:56):
I appreciate you, man. Yeah, and Merry Christmas Day everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Thanks, I'll see man audios that man. I kind of
wish I don't wish it wasn't already Christmas because I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I bring it on, let's go. But then again, I
wish we had more.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Time to talk about what we've done all year and this,
that and the other. And I'll get to some of
that before the end of the program, but I really
would Yeah. No, let's get to now. My mind's getting
scattered out. Yeah, I'm focused, I'm dialed in Melvin. I'm focused,
and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna push the wrong
button after this one. I've already got my finger hovering

(48:40):
over the correct button.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
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Speaker 2 (48:51):
Doug on Sports Talk seven ninety What what is that?

Speaker 12 (48:56):
I'm talking heads?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Okay, okay, I had something else in mind, but it
were much older than talking heads.

Speaker 12 (49:05):
Once in a lifetime one of those uh prehistoric oh videos.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That is like a tip of the cap to the
figure four dead fall trap? Is that what that was?
Talking head? That the band? I was thinking about that
the talking heads would have been like talking toddlers back then. Hey,
oh well, it doesn't matter. Seven one, seven ninety email
on me, Doug Pike at IHEARTMDIA, I come h. Melvin

(49:33):
reminded me that I talked about sharing with you all
the different close dates on some of these hunting seasons
that are open right now, and as I go through
the list, there are so many that I could just
be yapping about them all the way to the end
of the program, and I don't really want to don't
really want to do that. That there's something specific you
want to know, just shoot me an email or whatever

(49:53):
and I can take care of it for you. Basically,
the deer season, the general season goes through the fifth
of January. That's coming up on us pretty quick in
the North zone, but South zone hunters get all the
way through the nineteenth of January, and if you are
in a special late season mood you can hunt through. Well,

(50:16):
it's January sixth through the nineteenth and the north set
in north half of the state and South zone. Special
late season starts January twenty, the day after the regular
general season closes, and then marches on through sept or
excuse me, through February the second.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
The list is so long, I.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Really I don't want to get into all of it,
but pretty much everything's still going strong for a good
bit longer anyway, not forever, obviously, but this was one
of those calendar years. I mentioned it way back a
while back that the hunting seed the deer season in
this state actually touched days in six months of the year,

(51:01):
which is pretty unique in these United States of ours.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Robert, my friend, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Good morning, Doug, Hey, buddy. A. First of all, I
just I'm I'm great man. I woke up this morning.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
The sun is shining window.

Speaker 8 (51:15):
You know, hey, I just wanted to call and uh
wish you and your family a very merried Christmas and
a happy New Year. And I hope you guys have
to stay holidays and uh, you know, Unfortunately, I haven't
had much to talk about regarding any fishing because he's
been a little slow down here.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Oh did you finally catch the last fish?

Speaker 8 (51:37):
You know, I'm giving them a little break for the year.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
I'm gonna I'm gonna let them, let them.

Speaker 8 (51:43):
Get out there and enjoy their break, because I'll be
back with them soon.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Sure, I know you will.

Speaker 9 (51:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You know that that's that water you're on. I'm not
gonna tell anybody where you are, because this pretty good stuff.
But that water you're on is a great place to
be in the wintertime. Just just give it a chance
to get a little bit colder and then drop it
off the LEDs out there and you'll find him.

Speaker 8 (52:01):
I actually I went and picked up some some new
waiters here a little a little while ago.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Yeah, I tied him out.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
And I'll tell you what with the some of these
little fronts that would come through and blew.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Out that uh blew out that water. I mean that
water is barely waist deep.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
Bet you know at times wow, and uh so you know,
I'm waiting for some of them flounder to kind of
stack back up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
In these areas you'll get but I know they're around.
I just haven't found them yet, but I know they're around,
and I know from talking to you long enough now
that you know where to go looking and how to
catch them to So I'm just waiting on the pictures.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
Man, I got you, buddy.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
You have a good man.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, we'll talk to you. Merry Christmas and Happy New
Year to you too, Robert, Thanks man audios. Yeah, that's
a good guy. I've fished off his pier and I
can assure you he's in a really good place. My
little snapshots didn't produce much. Little brief moments I've had
down there have only made me want to go back

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down there. I may have to call him sometime if
I can get a little time away.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Let's go talk to Matthew.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
What's going on, Matthew?

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Hey, how you doing, Bud. Merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Merry Christmas to you.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
I ain't going down the dog group. I don't want
to start that fire, but I do want to ask you.
You've got it a long time I did. If you
have one lower to catch a fish in brackish water?
Is there anything better in the golden space?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
You know, picking a gold spoon shows your age. Okay,
you're you're older than forty. I bet, Oh good gosh, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
That's why I didn't want to I didn't want to
go any deeper on you.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
But if you're picking a gold spoon, who you're old school, okay,
because there aren't many people thirty years old and younger
who even carry any spoons, let alone the gold one,
the chrome one, the black one, the copper one that
we used to carry, and and.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
And that one.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I do have different color spoons depending on what the
what the water looks like, of course, but you can't
go wrong. We're going spoon.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah. A spoon is a good, solid, all around lure.
That's that may be the most overlooked lure right now.
If I had only one lure to catch a fish
on in brackish water, I might lean toward some sort
of swim bait. I really would. It's gonna it's not
gonna be as flashy as your spoon, but depending on

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water clarity and light penetration and all that, it would be.
I think a neck and neck fight between the two
lure types.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I wouldn't go to. I wouldn't go to a.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Top water because that restricts a lot I wouldn't go
to some to a plastic worm because I'm just board
fishing with plastic worms. My heart's not.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
My heart's not in soft classics. Now, I was looking
for my secret spot that still nobody knows about.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, that one. Yeah, the one. That's the one that's
every every time somebody's talked to you, they've asked you,
and you said, don't tell anybody. And then you told
one guy and all of a sudden, their bus is
stopping out in the front of your place.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
It's a long walk to get there, that's all.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, well that's fair enough. Yeah, that eliminates a lot
of places. Holy cal uh, that's funny.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
How you.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Christmas man?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, Merry Christmas to you as well, Matthew, thanks for
the call. All right, let me click him down. It's
funny that he asked about that, because I had on
my list of things to talk about. When I was
leaning into that story I'm working on for Salt water Sportsman,
I was gonna ask, what is your one go to
eight for speckled trout? For me, if I'm in a

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high confidence area and the water's not terribly deep. Now,
I've caught a lot of good trout on top waters.
I'm going back to Lake Calcashe in the middle of summer.
Believe it or not, there were places out in twelve
and fourteen feet of water, or at least ten to
twelve I think, just in the middle of Lake Calcashue,

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big old Lake Calcachue over in Louisiana, where the fish
you wouldn't see anything going on on top. But if
you throw a top water in there, all of a sudden,
here they come. And so I'm not scared to throw
it in deeper water.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
But if I'm in waste deep water or.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Less and I want to find a fish at least
figure out where they are and whether they're trying to
eat or not, I want to throw a top water
because I can work a lot of water with it
very quickly. I can it's very clear whether or not
something that stops that lure as a bite and it
or a stick or grass or whatever. And so that's

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a great go to bait if you really want to
find fish. I like it anyway, and have for a
very long time. I like I do like the soft plastics.
There's no denying that they catch a lot of fish,
but there are so many variations on that theme, it
becomes kind of difficult. Really. Oh yeah, I'm at the

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bottom of the hour.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
For speckled trout. I'm tying on the.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Top water, top water, I am, I am.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I'm gonna stick with it too. Speckl trout shallow water.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
And we've got bait around us, so it's a high
probability that there are big game fish there, that there
are trout and maybe redfish.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I'll throw a top water. I don't have a problem
throwing it all.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Day because I think the bites I get on the
top are going to be more quality bites than if
I'm throwing soft plastics. Now, I know big trout eat
soft plastics. I know b reds eat them too, Been there,
done that, But I just like the way everything unfolds
when a big trout eats a big top water bait.
I've got a bait that I haven't even thrown yet
that I want to throw this winter. This will be

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the winter to do it too, just to see if
I can make them eat it. And I'm pretty sure
I can, because the guy who designed the lure designed
it for snook and trout and maybe the occasional redfish.
But I'll get them to bite that fresh water fish
finders a spinner bait I'll throw. I'll throw worms if
I have to, but if it works, if there's any

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thought that I could get bites on top, I'm going
back there too early and late. Pretty good water clarity
and something with a pretty good profile. And even the family,
the top water family is just loaded with different lures.
That's that's the thing. You got to realize. There are
so many different options, so many different thiss so many
different that.

Speaker 11 (58:57):
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Speaker 2 (59:04):
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Speaker 10 (59:05):
The conversation continues this as the Doug Pipe Show.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Welcome back Doug Pipe Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Just because I'm gonna give you a quick rundown of
the leader board at the p NC Championship, which is
basically fathers and sons, fathers and daughters, on and on
and on ad nauseum. I think I want to say

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soren Stam's in there. I'm pretty other Team Corda, So
Nelly Corda's there with somebody there's Team Onka doesn't say
Team Sorenstam. So anyway, along and the short of it. Yeah,
Team Player, that's kind of funny. Gary Player's there banging
it around with somebody from his family, and it's kind

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of like just this time of year, honestly, it's kind
of like going to whatever golf course you like to
play on and just walking around and watching everybody else
out there. There are a lot of families playing golf
this time of year, only these families are far more identifiable.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
For example, the leading two teams right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Now, Team Woods, the guy you've probably heard of, that's
Tiger and Charlie and he's got his daughter on the bag,
and then Team Longer and it just goes down.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
It's kind of silly, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
VJ.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Sing and his son are tied for the lead as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's Woods Longer and Singing, all at thirteen under par
in this two day event, all of them yesterday and
their two man scramble round. I don't even know what
the format is for today, honestly, But if you're bored
and you want to watch golf on TV and see
some a lot of players who are considerably older with

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their adult children playing golf, and at least they'd be
recognizable names, watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I guess it's not my cup of tea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
If I'm gonna watch golf on TV, I at least
want it to be professionals grinding it out against each
other where there's legitimate competition involved. This is I don't
know what side bets they have or what arrangements they
made in the bar last night, but it's not super

(01:01:25):
competitive golf. It's really not, and they take chances. I'm
watching these guys hit shots that they would never hit
in a tournament, or try to hit shots they would
never even attempt in a tournament, just so they can
try to make the highlight reel.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
And more power to them. I'm not knocking the ability
of any of these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'm really not. They're all so much better than I'll
ever be, and that's okay. I'm pretty I'm fine with that.
But if I'm gonna watch golf on TV, or if
I'm gonna walk around a golf course and watch people play,
I want it to mat. I want every shot to
matter because I want to learn the brain parts like
a logical part of golf too, And that's why I

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watch golf, is to learn stuff, not to just be
entertained by their shot. Making ability. They can all play,
they can all play really well. Saw some social media
thing the other day where these two bro I think
they're brothers. Anyway, these two guys just walk up to
random people on practice ranges at random courses, I suppose,

(01:02:29):
and say, hey, how good are you at golf? And
they try to get a match, a nine hole match
or maybe eighteen holes, I don't know, with somebody who's
really good, who's out there practicing. And they picked a
guy the other day when I was seeing this episode
of it, who's a plus five point six handicap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Now, are you familiar with the handicap system in golf?

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Melvin? That's the negative? Okay, Well, the handicap system enables you,
me and anybody else if you actually post your real
scores every time you play. It affords the player who's
not as good to start off the day on an
even footing with the player who is. For example, my

(01:03:15):
handicap right now is probably well. With the scores I
just post, it probably going to be about a nine, okay, Okay,
And if you're a seventeen handicap, then I have to
give you eight strokes so that we could play kind
of even I'm gonna you get an.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Eight shot head start, and you get them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Every scorecard on every golf course has not just the
whole number and the length in yards and the par
but it also has what handicap ranking it is on
that golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
The harder the hole, the lower the ranking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
The hardest hole on the course is handicapped as number one,
so you would get a stroke on the number one
handicap hole two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight.
The other holes you and I'd be kind of playing
even up, and it makes it simple. It's clean, and
there are subtleties to it all, but the bottom line

(01:04:13):
is you and I could go play golf and we
could make a bet for a dollar and there would
be just as good a chance for you to win
as me to win. So it's like an equalizer. It's
an equalizer, absolutely, and very few games have anything even
remotely like that, unless you're spotting people pins and bowling
or something like that. So the bottom line is they
walk up to this guy and your handicap is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
A minus number. It like a mine's a nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
So I get my score that I shoot, I will
get a stroke taken off on those nine handicap holes
and it makes it very fun and fair. Well, they
walk up to this guy and he says, I'm a
plus five point six, and that means that he is
so good that if he and I went out and played,

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he would have to give me all nine of my
shots plus five and a half more because his average
round is well below par. I mean, a plus five
six is that's many tour grade for sure, and maybe

(01:05:19):
even more so. Anyway, the bottom line is they went
out and did that, and I don't even remember how
the round ended up. But that guy, the first swing
he took on the first t is about as far
as I got. The other two guys that already hit
and they're pretty good players. The three of us could
play pretty well fun and even together. But this five
to six guy, the two of them hit driver, and
he pulled out some little hybrid club and hit it

(01:05:41):
straighter and farther than both of them did, and both
of them kind of went, oh, oh, it's fun. Though
it makes it that'sn't something I truly like about golf.
This group that I play with, then I'll play with
them tomorrow. As a matter of fact, on Mondays, they
all have very well established hand caps, as do I,

(01:06:01):
so it makes it very fun for us to have
a little friendly wager all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
All right, we gotta take a little break.

Speaker 10 (01:06:08):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at Sports seven
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Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Now more Doug Fie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Welcome back. Final segment for twenty twenty four Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Can you believe it? Time goes by fast?

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
And this I just looked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I was curious and I just looked, and this probably
would have been a pretty good day to play the
Texas temperature game. But we're not going to. I don't
want to rush it. But just for giggles, let's see
if your skills sitting now that you're just a jelly
and jam man and salsa man. Here we go. But
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
What do you think the current low temperature is in Texas?

Speaker 12 (01:06:47):
Current low temperature in Texas. I'm gonna just throw it
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Let's fifty five fifty five current high temperature.

Speaker 12 (01:06:56):
Oh boy, this this Texas. Let me see take the
one carried a one. Let's say sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Sixty CALLI, there's only fourteen degrees difference in the whole
state of Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I would think, well, well, you know what I learned.
What I've learned is the Panhandle, right, the Panhandle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah, it's a little consideration, pretty cool up in the Panhandle,
a lot cooler than fifty five. Okay, you gotta remember
it's in the forties here. You didn't take that into consideration.
So therefore it's you missed on the low temperature by
twenty three degrees. Oh wow, there it's freezing all the
way up at the top this, I think this is

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gonna be dal Hart. Let me see no hemp pill,
hemp pill and yeah and dal Hart both thirty two
degrees okay, And if you roll on down it's freezing there. Yeah,
it's it's you could stick a little piece of a
little drop of water out there on the sidewalk and
it probably freeze. Not down in the valley though, because

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at Port is a bit five million miles away.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
That's about the difference in north and southern other than.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Southern Europe almost, and we're talking about eight hundred and
something miles here, but down there seventy two.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Wow, forty degrees difference.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Well, a big state, forty degrees different. Yeah, we are
a big state, and you can do that. East and
west too. I'm sorry. We're a big country. We're not
a bad idea. Thirty six in let's go east and
west on the far west end of the state. Thirty
six in El Paso and as far as far east

(01:08:36):
as I can get. That's going to be Port Arthur
forty six there. Wow, So it levels off, and clearly
the temperatures change more north and south than east and west.
That could be a tie breaker someday. Just it'll be
either the temperature in El Paso or Port Arthur, or
maybe Jasper because that's about a little high. No, see,

(01:08:59):
even with El Paso would be Longview. That's about as
close as I can get on the far east side
of Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:09:06):
You know, from what I learned today, you're gonna have
to give me a handicap on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
This, a five degree handicap. Now, you missed by twenty three,
you get about eighty percent I think of the number
that you are over par if I'm remembering correctly. So
if you missed by twenty three degrees, that, man, that'd
make you like a sixteen seventeen handicap. Maybe in eighteen.

(01:09:32):
You just need to hone your skills. Man, you can't
forget you got to study. This is an ongoing process.
Just because you've you've gotten locked into jellies and jams,
doesn't mean you can forego the temperature map. Especially when
these fronts come rolling through. That's when it gets fun.
When it's going to be about ten below zero up
in the Panhandle somewhere and then still seventy degrees down

(01:09:56):
on the beach at Port Isabelle. That is bananas. It
is man, but it's Texas. This big state of ours
has given me, and I know everybody in this audience
just given and given and given so much in a
fun outdoor activity. And it doesn't matter what you like
to do most outdoors either, It just doesn't matter. All

(01:10:20):
you got to do is get out there, have your fun,
and then get back to the house and start packing
for the next one. There's some merry Christmas wishes from Aaron.
Thank you, Eron. I really appreciate that, my friend, I
really do. I was expecting a call, is kind of
hoping to get a call from a guy that a
good friend of mine said, Mike, call today, but he didn't.

(01:10:42):
And that's okay. He's a big East Texas fisherman and
we'll get to him in twenty twenty five. I'm sure
didn't see that today. Oh no, that's just a solicitation.
I'm not worried about that one. I'm not worried about
that one. Getting back to normal, yes, as this is

(01:11:05):
from somebody who's normal got turned inside out recently, and
I appreciate you getting back and that you're finding a
way through what you're dealing with. That's all we need
to know about that. Like I talked about, no matter
no matter where you're going this holiday season, no matter
what you're doing, no matter where you're going to spend

(01:11:27):
it or with whom you're going to spend it, just
try to be thankful overall for all the opportunities that
you've had. And if you feel like you haven't had
enough opportunities yet to feel really good about it, then
just make your own path and figure out where that
path will take you to something better than what you
got going on now. I'm no psychologist, I'm no psychiatrist.

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I'm just a guy who's who's lived along and overall
pretty darn good life and had some nice opportunities thrown
my way, that's for sure. Grab him, I'll say hi
to him. I see that one I know who that is.
Go ahead and just punch him right straight through. He'll
be okay, he won't say anything crazy. What's up folk?

Speaker 8 (01:12:10):
Pro?

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Harry Christmas Man?

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Hut up?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
A kid duty got caught up to play play though.

Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
With the kids, rapping kids, so he couldn't call it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
He'll definitely get back with you next year. I had to.
I had to wait till I got out of this
treey river bottom this morning so I could get a
signal good enough to call you. Yeah, make three trips
back in there to get all your ducks out or what?
Actually I was out there deer hood to my budd's plate.
Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, I'm posted a few pictures
really cool pity cool stape got you love the deer

(01:12:39):
black but uh, I can't wait. I'll go check it
out as soon as I leave this desk right here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Oh, I just want to get in there real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
And I wish you and yours and bel what it is,
Merry Christmas, happy to do here and all that you
got to squeeze in the trip somewhere here and there.
So likewise up Aaron Livingston Man. You know I'll be
thinking about you. Oh yes, sir, man, y'all have a
good money. Mostly I'll be mostly I'll be thinking about
your wife's crappie. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah, I get some one of them tacos going here
pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Oh man, holy cow, that was probably one of the
best meals I've eaten when I was up there with
you guys in a very long time. And I mean
that very sincerely.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I appreciated that. Yeah, man, what you do with goes
Ooh no, oh no, no, no no, we'll figure something out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Hey, man, Merry Christmas to you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Tell everybody hello up there, and we'll get together sometime soon.
I hope I really do for.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
It, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
We'll talk to you all soon about all right, buddy audios. Yeah,
that's a good guy right there. Pretty good bass fisherman too.
He's posting pictures of bass. He's deer hunting, he's duck hunting.
Not many ducks up there around Livingston, unfortunately, And I
don't know. I'm kind of hoping they're all on the
prairie down around El Campo, because that's where I'm going.
In about what is today the twenty what second less

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than a week now, I'll be out there grinding it out,
hopefully not super cold and hopefully not super warm, and
for sure hopefully not raining. If I get to pick
I've got kind of a medium fog with a pretty
heavy top on it and a little bit lighter, like
maybe three four hundred yards of visibility on the ground.

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That's okay with a nice fat top on it, because
that'll force those birds to come down and look around
figure out where the heck they're going. They got good
flight pattern, they got good flight memory to navigate an
entire continent, but if they're in a fog, they're just
as lost as you and I are, and they don't
have GPS.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
All right, that's gonna wrap it up for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Thank you all so very much for being a part
of this show and making it better for me, certainly
better for Melvin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I learned from you at.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Least as much as you could possibly learn from me,
and I greatly appreciate being able to add all that
to what I know and can talk about when people
ask me questions. Have fun, get outside, stay safe, Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, you too, Melvin. Happy New Year to
you and your family. Buddy, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
Everybody all right, We'll see you next year. Thanks for listening.

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