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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Verie show is on the air. Maybe you can just
go back, go back.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, pretend like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, just walking to the staff meeting on Monday
morning like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously.
Just go back.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Then the whole thing never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I was blown off a little steam. So what so what.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're entitled emotional? That's right, you're emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Never happened, Never happened.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Do you think that it's respectful add ons to come
to the Oval Office.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Of the United States of America and attack the administration
that is trying to try to prevent the destruction You're because.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
A lot of questions. Let's start from the biginn. Sure,
hoist wall during the war. Everybody has problems, even you.
But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but
you will feel it in the fusions.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You don't know that I bless you. I'm blessed.
Speaker 8 (01:15):
You'll know your work. Don't tell us what we're going
to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell
us what we're going to feel.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
dictate that.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're going to feel very good, feel influenced.
Speaker 8 (01:32):
We're gonna feel very good, very strong, will feel the influence.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You're right now not in a very good position.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You've allowed you to be in a very bad position.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
That he's able to be right about the very beginning
of the war.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Not in a good position.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You don't have the cards right now with us.
Speaker 8 (01:47):
You start having right now, you bread if you're gambling lives,
billions of people see.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with world
War three. You got when the whole no, when the fold, no,
when the wall, know when to run.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You never count your own money when you're sitting.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
At the table. There will be time enough to count
whin the feelings gone.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
All I can say is this, you might have broken
deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
in with Biden.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He did it, maybe maybe he did. I don't know
what happened, But he didn't break it with me. He
wants to make a deal. I don't know if you
can make a deal. The problem is I've empowered you
to be a tough guy, and I don't think you'd
be a tough guy without the United States. And your
people are very brave. But you're either going to make
a deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll
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fight it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty,
but you'll fight it out.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
But you don't have the cards. But once we sign
that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
You've got no home, the home, no wind, the full,
no win, the wark.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
This idea that Zelensky is ungrateful. He's entitled our money,
there'll be Joe Biden said that as well.
Speaker 10 (03:31):
And to deliver much needed humanitarian assistance as well as food, water, medicine,
shelter and other aid to Ukrainians displaced by Russians war,
and provide aid for those seeking refuge in other countries
from Ukraine. It's also going to help schools and hospitals open.
It's going to allow pensions and social support to be
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paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something something
in their pocket. It's also going to provide critical resources
to address food shortages around the globe.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
Zelensky has declared that the US will have to send
our sons and daughters to fight his war if we
don't give him money. This is Zelenski through an interpreter.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The US will have.
Speaker 11 (04:17):
To send their sons and daughters exactly the same way
as we are sending their sons and daughters to war,
and they will have to fight because it's a nature
that we're talking about, and they will be dying.
Speaker 9 (04:31):
He also said that if we stop giving him these
hundreds of millions of dollars. By the way, he's also
admitted that over one hundred billion dollars did I say
hundreds of million? If we stop giving him these hundreds
of millions of dollars that he has admitted that over
one hundred billion of it is missing. So then he
goes off and says, if the US stops giving us money,
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we will demand at least two hundred and fifty billion
dollars from Europe A good money.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Good give us two hundred and fifty two hundred and
fifty billions which are here in Europe frozen Russian asses.
Speaker 9 (05:14):
No answer, So let's go back. No, no, no, first,
let's do five oh one. This is President Trump saying
he refuses to bend the knee to this endless war.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He's not gonna do it.
Speaker 12 (05:29):
I refuse to bend the knee to their next endless
war in Ukraine. I want peace, they want money, and
they want conflict, even if it means walking us into
the brink of World War three, which frankly it is doing.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
Little Fidel Castro, a little Fidel Trudeau. Fidelito says that
his country will continue to send all their money to Ukraine.
Speaker 13 (05:55):
We've also invested close to twenty billion dollars in so
reports for Ukraine, military, economic, and other, and we're going
to continue to be there to support Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Now, what happened, What really happened?
Speaker 9 (06:09):
On Friday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Margaret Bennin on
Face the Nation that Zelensky came into the office with
a deal, a deal that had been agreed upon, and
he tried to relitigate the deal in front of the
whole world, in front of the cameras. Forty minutes into it,
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this this meeting was going well. It wasn't until forty
minutes into it that he started in on JD Vance
and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
When all hell broke loose.
Speaker 14 (06:42):
Margaret, it is impossible to have an economic deal without
a peace steel. The Santa Kwannon for an economic deal
is that Ukrainian leadership wants.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
A peace steel. I thought this is a building block towards.
Speaker 14 (06:56):
Getting too well it was supposed to be for Presidents
of Lenz came into the Oval on Friday. There were
three things that are going to be done. There's going
to be a press conference, There's going to be a
private lunch with sixteen of us, and as you could
see from Dan Scavino's the post on his X account,
we were already set up to sign to sign the deal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So it's unclear.
Speaker 14 (07:20):
Now President Zelensky has thrown off the sequencing. And let
me tell you the most tragic part of this. The
President Trump's idea for this economic arrangement was to further
intertwine the American people and the Ukrainian people and show
no daylight, to show the Russian leadership that there was
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no daylight. And President Zelensky came into the Oval office
and tried to relitigate in front of the world the
deal and we were going. The place to have done
it would have been in the private lunch.
Speaker 9 (07:54):
Zelensky made a huge mistake. Now he's trying to save face.
In fact, now he's trying to say, well, maybe I'll
step down if you'll put Ukraine into NATO.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now again, as President Trump.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Told you you don't have the cars, you're bluffing.
Speaker 15 (08:17):
I really believe that the worst thing that ever happened
to America was slavery the Michael Berry Show, and the
best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and
the Republican Party.
Speaker 16 (08:46):
It was sewary twenty eight. It was a Friday. He
strolled into the White House, probably humming, my way. Here
was on the table, here Earth and whatnot? First of
quek chat, then a dinner servant, come quatch. It started great,
all smile was in cordial, Trump looking trumpy, jd Vance
looking jovial. Then something happened and the tenor switched and
the guests got grumpy, started acting like a bitch, interrupting,
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inter intercepting conversation, started showing his colors didn't know who
he was facing like a pee wee playing pos He
was out of his league. It was tag team wrestling.
It was blitz Greek. It was over before it started.
Big ave no corner, Little Lord Fauntleroy, get in your corner,
the fat lady saying, and the people rejoiced.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yo Z shut.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
It, fab.
Speaker 16 (09:41):
You're five foot three stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Christer.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He broken, this is fire.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
He killed a lot of people, and he did an exchange. Princess,
we signed the exchange of prisons, but he didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
What kind of diplomacy g d Us became involved?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What what do you?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you? What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country has But if mister President,
mister President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you
to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate
this in front of the American media.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right now, you guys.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines
because you have Manhower problems.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Get that kid a high chair, the Warhawks.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You have to be thankful you don't have the car.
You're buried there yet you have people that die.
Speaker 17 (10:56):
Tell you a slow one soldiers, it would be a
damn good nig.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Then you then you tell.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Us I don't want to cease fire.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't want to cease fire. I want to go
and I wanted this letter.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
If you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell
you you'd take it. So the bullets stopped flying and
your men stopped courting kills.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Both the one just stole the war.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But I'm saying you don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I said to you, I want.
Speaker 17 (11:20):
To see guarantee because you get a ceasefire faster than
it is.
Speaker 18 (11:29):
From the White House, you want to launch your ball.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Over the weekend in President Trump posted to his truth
social account the following in all caps.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Sorry, what in over the weekend would have been this morning?
Speaker 9 (12:03):
He posted? Tomorrow night will be big. I will tell
it like it is. And what tomorrow night is is
that at nine o'clock Eastern, so eight o'clock Central, President
Trump will address a joint Session of Congress. Now that's
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not officially a State of the Union, because you do
the State of the Union address in your second, third,
and fourth.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Years of your presidency.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
So when you come in, you have an inaugural address,
and then in the following year and each year thereafter,
you have a State of the Union.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The invitation was extended by Mike.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Johnson, who's the speaker from Republican from Louisiana to address Congress,
and I suspect there will be a lot of talk
about Ukraine, but I think there'll be a lot of
talk about other things as well. Interesting will tidbit if
you like this sort of minutia in trivia. Since nineteen
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eighty four, there has always been a member of the
President's cabinet who is named the designated survivor. And the
reason is because you have all three branches of government
under one roof. The Supreme Court will be there, and
so the designated survivor is the person who does not
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attend the gathering in case a catastrophe or terrorist attack
should level the top tier of the government, and the
US Senate is the one that keeps the record of
the designated survivor. Going back to nineteen eighty four, and
that year it was HUD Secretary Samuel Pierce Junior, who
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Ronald Reagan designated the potential leader of the nation if
President Reagan and everyone else attendance should perish. Other designated
survivors through the years, Andrew Cuomo, who was part of
Bill Clinton's cabinet in nineteen ninety nine. This is before
he was the governor of New York.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And by the way, Cuomo over the weekend.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I don't know if he actually announced it, or he
hinted that he's going to announce, or maybe he's putting
together a what's the term when you float in the
trial balloon, you're yeah, exploratory committee, which is a nice
way of saying, Hey, if you're for me, come out
and be for me right now, to be the mayor
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of New York. As part of his rehabilitation. Bill Day,
former Commerce Secretary, was in nineteen ninety eight under Bill Clinton.
Bill Daily, of course, the son of the famous Chicago
Democrat Party boss, the machine politician, if ever.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
There was one.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
In two thousand and nine, it was Attorney General Eric Holder,
and the most recent of the designated survivors was Joe
Biden's Education Cabinet Secretary or Education secretary of Miguel Cardona,
probably because someone pulled some fact that that was the
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first Hispanic to do that. We always have to have
the first this and the first that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (15:22):
So oh man, I'm almost out of time, dad gummet, Well,
I want to get to this Zelenski thing. In further detail,
but I did. I did some pretty deep digging on
some things that had been bothering me for a while.
First of all, we have sent it's estimated well over
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two hundred million dollars to Ukraine during all of this.
The Ukrainian economy before the war, their economy is in
shambles right now, was two hundred billion dollars. We've sent
them more than the entirety of their economy in the year.
We've sent all that in a very brief period of time.
And by the way, that's the size of the Arkansas economy,
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So that tolls you. Ukraine is not a major powerhouse.
They are sitting on a lot of important rare earth
minimal minerals, which, by the way, I went digging deep
into rare earth minerals and the value of these things
and what it is and isn't. It's not like gold
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you just pull it out. You've got to really work
at this stuff. But it's also the case that a
rare earth mineral is not ramone necessarily rare. They can be,
they can be plentiful. The rare does not refer to
how much of them there are.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry show. Look, I'm not
an expert.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
On Russia, and I'm not an expert on the Russia
Ukraine issue.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't claim to be.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
But I'm going to tell you something that the longer
you dig into the history behind all of this, you
will find some very interesting and troubling things related to
this conflict, and you will understand that it is not
so simple as Russia bad Ukraine good.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So when in the.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Middle of the war, the wife of Vladimir Zelensky's or
his wife is on the front cover of Vogue magazine,
h interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Have you seen the wife of any.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Other world leader on the front cover of a magazine,
particularly a magazine dedicated to women. You would imagine perhaps
that what they're trying to do is sway women's opinions
toward Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
There's a fellow name, I think it was Balayanis.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
I remember Richard Blanis, and he is considered the godfather
or the grandfather of public relations, and he was His
big break was when he was hired by Lucky Strike
to improve their sagging sales. Cigarette says this is one
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hundred years ago, and he figured out that if you're
trying to compete with Paul Mall and Marlborough and Cambell
and all these other You're just not going to be
It's too hard to move the needle to get more
people to smoke. So what he did is he decided,
I got to get women smoking these cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's an untapped market.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
So what he did is he started a campaign that
women should be able to smoke in public just like men.
They should not be judged for and he made it
a women's lib issue, and he hired a group of
protesters to march out into public in New York, and
he tipped the media off and they smoked as they
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went out in public at this event, and they declared
that we will not be held back any longer. We
can smoke in public just like a man. And it
became a huge issue, and so women at home began
quietly all over the country joining in on all this
and saying, yeah, yeah, we're going to start. We're going
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to show them we're going to start smoking in public.
Well it's sort of interesting how this thing played out,
because now all of a sudden, almost overnight, Paul Mang
was able to sell all these cigarettes, not on the
basis that the cigarette was any better than it was yesterday,
not on the basis that the cigarette had a cheaper
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price better quality, but that you were making a statement
by supporting this. What they have effectively done to us
in this country is convinced a lot of your neighbors
who want to.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Be perceived as good people.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
These are the people who put the Ukrainian flag as
their profile picture, and they couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
They have no idea the history of Ukraine or why
Putin invaded. And by the way, they'll tell you that
if you try to take an objective look at this,
just as they did with COVID, if you try to
take election integrity or January sixth, if you try to
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take an objective look at what happened here and how
this war started and how it's going, then you're a
stooge for Putin. Remember Michael McCall told Tucker Crolston, and
he was told by the security, the intelligence agencies that
Tucker Carlson, you know, that McCall should stay away from
him because he's dangerous. They're telling a congressman not to
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associate with a guy who at the time was the
top rated talk show host on all of Cable News
Tucker Carlson because he was owned by Putin. You think
our security agencies should be doing that, and more importantly,
why did they do it?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Zelenski has been told by all these people that he's
got all the cards, and he doesn't, and that's why
he marched in there and he made a huge mistake.
And with apologies to the oak Ridge boys, this is
our tribute to how he must feel right now.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I just said, yes, Gus, I'm all alone.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Ever since.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I walked in my head and you knew I was in.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Strong, I wish I would yes, now I'm all.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I wish I.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yes, now I'm all alone, as I'm as good as
though I walked in and shap my head and you
do who I wasn't strong?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I wish I would just say yes, because now I'm
all over the first few months of war went well.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
We made a bunch of bucks, peeled a couple of billion,
all the tanks and toes and rugs, faith the ghost,
the key, just to keep my buckets flushed.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But you figured out my grasp to griz it, so
now I'm screwed. I wish I would have just said yes, because.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Now I'm all along there since you as a fat
I'm as.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Good as though I walked in and shop my head
and you knew why I wasn't strong.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I wish I would have just said this is how
I'm all alone.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I wish I would.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Have just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever
since us left me, I'm asked good as lone.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I walked in and should my head, you who I
wasn't strong. I wish I would have just said this
now I'm all alone.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I wish I would have just said yes, because now
I'm all along.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Ever said it us left me. I'm asked good as done.
I walked in.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And should my head, and you I wasn't strong. I
wish I would have just said this.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Is now I'm all alone.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I wish I.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Would have just said yes, because now I'm all along
the devil sister us left me. I'm asked good at
time I walked in and my head and you.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Knew I wasn't shromp. I wish I would have just
said this is now I'm all of man. I wish
I would have just said yes, because now I'm all along.
Dever sis you as left me I'm asked good as them.
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I walked in and my head and you.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Knew I wasn't strom.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I wish I would have just said this, because now
I'm on.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Alone the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Michael Berry Show, you hear a lot of reference to rare
earth minerals.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
In Ukraine or the Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's not like.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Ukraine is sitting atop these minerals and exploiting them, putting
them to good use.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They're not.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Because, as it turns out, these minerals are very difficult
to extract. And the reason is because the minerals. This
isn't like you know, just going to pull up potatoes.
These minerals are buried in ore and you have to
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you have to extract the ore.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
What not or what ori fool?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
You have to extract the ore, and then from the
ore you have to separate the minerals, these precious minerals,
and that process requires that you pulverize the ore into
a powder and then use very powerful, hazardous chemicals to
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separate amount, and then you have to alter the state
of the mineral. Now i'st I'm no physicists not a
feminist either, I'm no physicist. I don't claim to be
an expert, but I've devoted sometime to studying this from
people with various backgrounds, and what you learn is that
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there's very little of that being done, if at all,
was before the war, and now there's none of it
because what Putin has done is devastated Ukraine's industry. But
Ukraine really wasn't able to extract much of this anyway.
One of the ones, there's one called neodemium, and neodymium
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is used in wind turbines and EV batteries, electric vehicle batteries. Well,
if we do away with wind turbines, which I wish
we would do, and if electric vehicles don't pick up
in the way of the hype, then you don't need
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as much of that. But do you know where eighty
percent of it is in China? Part of the reason
China pushes electric vehicles is they don't have access to
oil and gas the way America does, the way the
Middle East does, so for them to enrich themselves, you
can't blame them for this. They want to push the
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world into electric vehicles makes sense, and I'm not even
mad at them for that. I'm mad at the American
Left for taking their money and telling lies to people here.
I have a friend who drives the Model S Tesla
Plaid and it's the top of the line, fastest car
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that you can you can get. And I said, what's
one thing about this car that you don't like? Because
he loves it, absolutely loves it. And he said that
it's not environmentally friendly. And I said, I don't understand.
And he said, I don't like the fact that people
think that this car is environmentally friendly because it's not.
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It takes so much more out of the environment. It
does so much more damage to the environment to make
this car than it does your typical car because of
all the rare earth minerals as well. As it turns
out you're right, And he said, I just feel like
when people tell me that that, you know, they like
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you're some virtuous person for doing it. I feel like
that's a little bit of I feel like I'm getting
credit for something that I shouldn't get credit.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
For it, and I feel a little add about it.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
So let's go back to the Zelensky deal. Zelensky says
Putin can't be trusted to keep his word, and we've
all heard Putin's bad Russia, bad our, whole lives. We're
hiding under the desk because the Russians were gonna bomb
us at any moment, right, bad guy's coming, boogeyman. Well,
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here was Bill Clinton back in twenty thirteen being interviewed
with Pierce Morgan. This is long before Zelensky is even
in power, and Piers Morgan says, you know, how is
Putin to deal with because they famously had a pretty
good relationship, and no one accused Bill Clinton, as they
do with Donald Trump, of somehow being a Russian asset.
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Oh no, no, no, that was diplomacy. When Bill Clinton
was able to get along.
Speaker 19 (29:57):
With him effort to get the Syrian government to declare,
disclose and then hand over their chemical weapons. We'd be
crazy not to take advantage of this.
Speaker 20 (30:07):
There's somebody'll saying, though something something sounds too good to
be true.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It usually is too good to be true.
Speaker 20 (30:12):
Can we really believe that Vladimir Putin, with his own
self interest for Russia, is orchestrating this huge maneuver to
remove all of US science chemical weapons.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, and it's just going to happen. No, we don't
have to believe it.
Speaker 19 (30:25):
We just have to see what happens and make the
most of what happens. You You work for the best
and prepare for the worst in this business. But I
think it would be a terrible mistake not to take
advantage of the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And you know, look, mister.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Putin has got he got all.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
He's very smart, you know him better than most people.
Speaker 20 (30:47):
Yeah, what was he like behind closed doors, away from
you know, the sort of the public utterances?
Speaker 19 (30:53):
Smart and remarkably we had a really good blunt relationship.
Speaker 20 (31:01):
Help blumed, brutally blunt.
Speaker 19 (31:06):
No, But I think, you know, I think the right
strategy most of the time is but it's frustrating to
people in your line of work. You should be brutally
honest with people in private, and then if you want
them to help you try to avoid embarrassing them in public. Now,
sometimes they do things which make it impossible for you
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to keep quiet. But by and large, I found all
the people I dealt with appreciated it if I told
them the truth, how I honestly felt, and what our
interests were and what our objectives were. And they also
appreciated it when I didn't kick them around in public.
For as long as I couldn't kick them around, So
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you know that's my experience, and.
Speaker 20 (31:48):
Computeron ever reneged on a personal he did not, so
behind closed douels he could be trusted.
Speaker 19 (31:57):
He kept his word and all the deals we made.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So Clinton.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Said that Putin kept his word, but Zelensky says he's
not to be trusted, and Zolensky is an honorable man.
Zelensky says that Putin's our enemy and that we will
either give him hundreds of billions of dollars more or
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our sons will be dragged into his war.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And will die there.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Zelensky also says that over one hundred billion dollars of
what we've sent him is lost and we have no
idea where it is. And Zelensky is an honorable man
because we've been told so by our media, and we've
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been told so by our deep state, and we've been
told so by Vogue magazine and Vanity Fair and all
the rest. And if they tell us something, I believe it,
don't you
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sh
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Verie show is on the air. Maybe you can just
go back, go back.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, pretend like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, just walking to the staff meeting on Monday
morning like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously.
Just go back.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Then the whole thing never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I was blown off a little steam. So what so what.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're entitled emotional? That's right, you're emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Never happened, Never happened.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Do you think that it's respectful add ons to come
to the Oval Office.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Of the United States of America and attack the administration
that is trying to try to prevent the destruction You're because.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
A lot of questions. Let's start from the biginn. Sure,
hoist wall during the war. Everybody has problems, even you.
But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but
you will feel it in the fusions.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You don't know that I bless you. I'm blessed.
Speaker 8 (01:15):
You'll know your work. Don't tell us what we're going
to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell
us what we're going to feel.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
dictate that.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're going to feel very good, feel influenced.
Speaker 8 (01:32):
We're gonna feel very good, very strong, will feel the influence.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You're right now not in a very good position.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You've allowed you to be in a very bad position.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
That he's able to be right about the very beginning
of the war.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Not in a good position.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You don't have the cards right now with us.
Speaker 8 (01:47):
You start having right now, you bread if you're gambling lives,
billions of people see.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with world
War three. You got when the whole no, when the fold, no,
when the wall, know when to run.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You never count your own money when you're sitting.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
At the table. There will be time enough to count
whin the feelings gone.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
All I can say is this, you might have broken
deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
in with Biden.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He did it, maybe maybe he did. I don't know
what happened, But he didn't break it with me. He
wants to make a deal. I don't know if you
can make a deal. The problem is I've empowered you
to be a tough guy, and I don't think you'd
be a tough guy without the United States. And your
people are very brave. But you're either going to make
a deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll
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fight it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty,
but you'll fight it out.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
But you don't have the cards. But once we sign
that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
You've got no home, the home, no wind, the full,
no win, the wark.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
This idea that Zelensky is ungrateful. He's entitled our money,
there'll be Joe Biden said that as well.
Speaker 10 (03:31):
And to deliver much needed humanitarian assistance as well as food, water, medicine,
shelter and other aid to Ukrainians displaced by Russians war,
and provide aid for those seeking refuge in other countries
from Ukraine. It's also going to help schools and hospitals open.
It's going to allow pensions and social support to be
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paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something something
in their pocket. It's also going to provide critical resources
to address food shortages around the globe.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
Zelensky has declared that the US will have to send
our sons and daughters to fight his war if we
don't give him money. This is Zelenski through an interpreter.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The US will have.
Speaker 11 (04:17):
To send their sons and daughters exactly the same way
as we are sending their sons and daughters to war,
and they will have to fight because it's a nature
that we're talking about, and they will be dying.
Speaker 9 (04:31):
He also said that if we stop giving him these
hundreds of millions of dollars. By the way, he's also
admitted that over one hundred billion dollars did I say
hundreds of million? If we stop giving him these hundreds
of millions of dollars that he has admitted that over
one hundred billion of it is missing. So then he
goes off and says, if the US stops giving us money,
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we will demand at least two hundred and fifty billion
dollars from Europe A good money.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Good give us two hundred and fifty two hundred and
fifty billions which are here in Europe frozen Russian asses.
Speaker 9 (05:14):
No answer, So let's go back. No, no, no, first,
let's do five oh one. This is President Trump saying
he refuses to bend the knee to this endless war.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He's not gonna do it.
Speaker 12 (05:29):
I refuse to bend the knee to their next endless
war in Ukraine. I want peace, they want money, and
they want conflict, even if it means walking us into
the brink of World War three, which frankly it is doing.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
Little Fidel Castro, a little Fidel Trudeau. Fidelito says that
his country will continue to send all their money to Ukraine.
Speaker 13 (05:55):
We've also invested close to twenty billion dollars in so
reports for Ukraine, military, economic, and other, and we're going
to continue to be there to support Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Now, what happened, What really happened?
Speaker 9 (06:09):
On Friday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Margaret Bennin on
Face the Nation that Zelensky came into the office with
a deal, a deal that had been agreed upon, and
he tried to relitigate the deal in front of the
whole world, in front of the cameras. Forty minutes into it,
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this this meeting was going well. It wasn't until forty
minutes into it that he started in on JD Vance
and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
When all hell broke loose.
Speaker 14 (06:42):
Margaret, it is impossible to have an economic deal without
a peace steel. The Santa Kwannon for an economic deal
is that Ukrainian leadership wants.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
A peace steel. I thought this is a building block towards.
Speaker 14 (06:56):
Getting too well it was supposed to be for Presidents
of Lenz came into the Oval on Friday. There were
three things that are going to be done. There's going
to be a press conference, There's going to be a
private lunch with sixteen of us, and as you could
see from Dan Scavino's the post on his X account,
we were already set up to sign to sign the deal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So it's unclear.
Speaker 14 (07:20):
Now President Zelensky has thrown off the sequencing. And let
me tell you the most tragic part of this. The
President Trump's idea for this economic arrangement was to further
intertwine the American people and the Ukrainian people and show
no daylight, to show the Russian leadership that there was
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no daylight. And President Zelensky came into the Oval office
and tried to relitigate in front of the world the
deal and we were going. The place to have done
it would have been in the private lunch.
Speaker 9 (07:54):
Zelensky made a huge mistake. Now he's trying to save face.
In fact, now he's trying to say, well, maybe I'll
step down if you'll put Ukraine into NATO.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now again, as President Trump.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Told you you don't have the cars, you're bluffing.
Speaker 15 (08:17):
I really believe that the worst thing that ever happened
to America was slavery the Michael Berry Show, and the
best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and
the Republican Party.
Speaker 16 (08:46):
It was sewary twenty eight. It was a Friday. He
strolled into the White House, probably humming, my way. Here
was on the table, here Earth and whatnot? First of
quek chat, then a dinner servant, come quatch. It started great,
all smile was in cordial, Trump looking trumpy, jd Vance
looking jovial. Then something happened and the tenor switched and
the guests got grumpy, started acting like a bitch, interrupting,
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inter intercepting conversation, started showing his colors didn't know who
he was facing like a pee wee playing pos He
was out of his league. It was tag team wrestling.
It was blitz Greek. It was over before it started.
Big ave no corner, Little Lord Fauntleroy, get in your corner,
the fat lady saying, and the people rejoiced.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yo Z shut.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
It, fab.
Speaker 16 (09:41):
You're five foot three stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Christer.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He broken, this is fire.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
He killed a lot of people, and he did an exchange. Princess,
we signed the exchange of prisons, but he didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
What kind of diplomacy g d Us became involved?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What what do you?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you? What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country has But if mister President,
mister President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you
to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate
this in front of the American media.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right now, you guys.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines
because you have Manhower problems.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Get that kid a high chair, the Warhawks.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You have to be thankful you don't have the car.
You're buried there yet you have people that die.
Speaker 17 (10:56):
Tell you a slow one soldiers, it would be a
damn good nig.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Then you then you tell.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Us I don't want to cease fire.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't want to cease fire. I want to go
and I wanted this letter.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
If you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell
you you'd take it. So the bullets stopped flying and
your men stopped courting kills.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Both the one just stole the war.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But I'm saying you don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I said to you, I want.
Speaker 17 (11:20):
To see guarantee because you get a ceasefire faster than
it is.
Speaker 18 (11:29):
From the White House, you want to launch your ball.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Over the weekend in President Trump posted to his truth
social account the following in all caps.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Sorry, what in over the weekend would have been this morning?
Speaker 9 (12:03):
He posted? Tomorrow night will be big. I will tell
it like it is. And what tomorrow night is is
that at nine o'clock Eastern, so eight o'clock Central, President
Trump will address a joint Session of Congress. Now that's
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not officially a State of the Union, because you do
the State of the Union address in your second, third,
and fourth.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Years of your presidency.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
So when you come in, you have an inaugural address,
and then in the following year and each year thereafter,
you have a State of the Union.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The invitation was extended by Mike.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Johnson, who's the speaker from Republican from Louisiana to address Congress,
and I suspect there will be a lot of talk
about Ukraine, but I think there'll be a lot of
talk about other things as well. Interesting will tidbit if
you like this sort of minutia in trivia. Since nineteen
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eighty four, there has always been a member of the
President's cabinet who is named the designated survivor. And the
reason is because you have all three branches of government
under one roof. The Supreme Court will be there, and
so the designated survivor is the person who does not
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attend the gathering in case a catastrophe or terrorist attack
should level the top tier of the government, and the
US Senate is the one that keeps the record of
the designated survivor. Going back to nineteen eighty four, and
that year it was HUD Secretary Samuel Pierce Junior, who
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Ronald Reagan designated the potential leader of the nation if
President Reagan and everyone else attendance should perish. Other designated
survivors through the years, Andrew Cuomo, who was part of
Bill Clinton's cabinet in nineteen ninety nine. This is before
he was the governor of New York.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And by the way, Cuomo over the weekend.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I don't know if he actually announced it, or he
hinted that he's going to announce, or maybe he's putting
together a what's the term when you float in the
trial balloon, you're yeah, exploratory committee, which is a nice
way of saying, Hey, if you're for me, come out
and be for me right now, to be the mayor
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of New York. As part of his rehabilitation. Bill Day,
former Commerce Secretary, was in nineteen ninety eight under Bill Clinton.
Bill Daily, of course, the son of the famous Chicago
Democrat Party boss, the machine politician, if ever.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
There was one.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
In two thousand and nine, it was Attorney General Eric Holder,
and the most recent of the designated survivors was Joe
Biden's Education Cabinet Secretary or Education secretary of Miguel Cardona,
probably because someone pulled some fact that that was the
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first Hispanic to do that. We always have to have
the first this and the first that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (15:22):
So oh man, I'm almost out of time, dad gummet, Well,
I want to get to this Zelenski thing. In further detail,
but I did. I did some pretty deep digging on
some things that had been bothering me for a while.
First of all, we have sent it's estimated well over
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two hundred million dollars to Ukraine during all of this.
The Ukrainian economy before the war, their economy is in
shambles right now, was two hundred billion dollars. We've sent
them more than the entirety of their economy in the year.
We've sent all that in a very brief period of time.
And by the way, that's the size of the Arkansas economy,
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So that tolls you. Ukraine is not a major powerhouse.
They are sitting on a lot of important rare earth
minimal minerals, which, by the way, I went digging deep
into rare earth minerals and the value of these things
and what it is and isn't. It's not like gold
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you just pull it out. You've got to really work
at this stuff. But it's also the case that a
rare earth mineral is not ramone necessarily rare. They can be,
they can be plentiful. The rare does not refer to
how much of them there are.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry show. Look, I'm not
an expert.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
On Russia, and I'm not an expert on the Russia
Ukraine issue.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't claim to be.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
But I'm going to tell you something that the longer
you dig into the history behind all of this, you
will find some very interesting and troubling things related to
this conflict, and you will understand that it is not
so simple as Russia bad Ukraine good.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So when in the.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Middle of the war, the wife of Vladimir Zelensky's or
his wife is on the front cover of Vogue magazine,
h interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Have you seen the wife of any.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Other world leader on the front cover of a magazine,
particularly a magazine dedicated to women. You would imagine perhaps
that what they're trying to do is sway women's opinions
toward Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
There's a fellow name, I think it was Balayanis.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
I remember Richard Blanis, and he is considered the godfather
or the grandfather of public relations, and he was His
big break was when he was hired by Lucky Strike
to improve their sagging sales. Cigarette says this is one
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hundred years ago, and he figured out that if you're
trying to compete with Paul Mall and Marlborough and Cambell
and all these other You're just not going to be
It's too hard to move the needle to get more
people to smoke. So what he did is he decided,
I got to get women smoking these cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's an untapped market.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
So what he did is he started a campaign that
women should be able to smoke in public just like men.
They should not be judged for and he made it
a women's lib issue, and he hired a group of
protesters to march out into public in New York, and
he tipped the media off and they smoked as they
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went out in public at this event, and they declared
that we will not be held back any longer. We
can smoke in public just like a man. And it
became a huge issue, and so women at home began
quietly all over the country joining in on all this
and saying, yeah, yeah, we're going to start. We're going
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to show them we're going to start smoking in public.
Well it's sort of interesting how this thing played out,
because now all of a sudden, almost overnight, Paul Mang
was able to sell all these cigarettes, not on the
basis that the cigarette was any better than it was yesterday,
not on the basis that the cigarette had a cheaper
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price better quality, but that you were making a statement
by supporting this. What they have effectively done to us
in this country is convinced a lot of your neighbors
who want to.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Be perceived as good people.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
These are the people who put the Ukrainian flag as
their profile picture, and they couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
They have no idea the history of Ukraine or why
Putin invaded. And by the way, they'll tell you that
if you try to take an objective look at this,
just as they did with COVID, if you try to
take election integrity or January sixth, if you try to
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take an objective look at what happened here and how
this war started and how it's going, then you're a
stooge for Putin. Remember Michael McCall told Tucker Crolston, and
he was told by the security, the intelligence agencies that
Tucker Carlson, you know, that McCall should stay away from
him because he's dangerous. They're telling a congressman not to
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associate with a guy who at the time was the
top rated talk show host on all of Cable News
Tucker Carlson because he was owned by Putin. You think
our security agencies should be doing that, and more importantly,
why did they do it?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Zelenski has been told by all these people that he's
got all the cards, and he doesn't, and that's why
he marched in there and he made a huge mistake.
And with apologies to the oak Ridge boys, this is
our tribute to how he must feel right now.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I just said, yes, Gus, I'm all alone.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Ever since.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I walked in my head and you knew I was in.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Strong, I wish I would yes, now I'm all.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I wish I.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yes, now I'm all alone, as I'm as good as
though I walked in and shap my head and you
do who I wasn't strong?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I wish I would just say yes, because now I'm
all over the first few months of war went well.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
We made a bunch of bucks, peeled a couple of billion,
all the tanks and toes and rugs, faith the ghost,
the key, just to keep my buckets flushed.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But you figured out my grasp to griz it, so
now I'm screwed. I wish I would have just said yes, because.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Now I'm all along there since you as a fat
I'm as.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Good as though I walked in and shop my head
and you knew why I wasn't strong.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I wish I would have just said this is how
I'm all alone.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I wish I would.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Have just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever
since us left me, I'm asked good as lone.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I walked in and should my head, you who I
wasn't strong. I wish I would have just said this
now I'm all alone.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I wish I would have just said yes, because now
I'm all along.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Ever said it us left me. I'm asked good as done.
I walked in.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And should my head, and you I wasn't strong. I
wish I would have just said this.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Is now I'm all alone.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I wish I.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Would have just said yes, because now I'm all along
the devil sister us left me. I'm asked good at
time I walked in and my head and you.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Knew I wasn't shromp. I wish I would have just
said this is now I'm all of man. I wish
I would have just said yes, because now I'm all along.
Dever sis you as left me I'm asked good as them.
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I walked in and my head and you.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Knew I wasn't strom.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I wish I would have just said this, because now
I'm on.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Alone the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Michael Berry Show, you hear a lot of reference to rare
earth minerals.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
In Ukraine or the Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's not like.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Ukraine is sitting atop these minerals and exploiting them, putting
them to good use.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They're not.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Because, as it turns out, these minerals are very difficult
to extract. And the reason is because the minerals. This
isn't like you know, just going to pull up potatoes.
These minerals are buried in ore and you have to
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you have to extract the ore.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
What not or what ori fool?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
You have to extract the ore, and then from the
ore you have to separate the minerals, these precious minerals,
and that process requires that you pulverize the ore into
a powder and then use very powerful, hazardous chemicals to
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separate amount, and then you have to alter the state
of the mineral. Now i'st I'm no physicists not a
feminist either, I'm no physicist. I don't claim to be
an expert, but I've devoted sometime to studying this from
people with various backgrounds, and what you learn is that
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there's very little of that being done, if at all,
was before the war, and now there's none of it
because what Putin has done is devastated Ukraine's industry. But
Ukraine really wasn't able to extract much of this anyway.
One of the ones, there's one called neodemium, and neodymium
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is used in wind turbines and EV batteries, electric vehicle batteries. Well,
if we do away with wind turbines, which I wish
we would do, and if electric vehicles don't pick up
in the way of the hype, then you don't need
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as much of that. But do you know where eighty
percent of it is in China? Part of the reason
China pushes electric vehicles is they don't have access to
oil and gas the way America does, the way the
Middle East does, so for them to enrich themselves, you
can't blame them for this. They want to push the
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world into electric vehicles makes sense, and I'm not even
mad at them for that. I'm mad at the American
Left for taking their money and telling lies to people here.
I have a friend who drives the Model S Tesla
Plaid and it's the top of the line, fastest car
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that you can you can get. And I said, what's
one thing about this car that you don't like? Because
he loves it, absolutely loves it. And he said that
it's not environmentally friendly. And I said, I don't understand.
And he said, I don't like the fact that people
think that this car is environmentally friendly because it's not.
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It takes so much more out of the environment. It
does so much more damage to the environment to make
this car than it does your typical car because of
all the rare earth minerals as well. As it turns
out you're right, And he said, I just feel like
when people tell me that that, you know, they like
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you're some virtuous person for doing it. I feel like
that's a little bit of I feel like I'm getting
credit for something that I shouldn't get credit.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
For it, and I feel a little add about it.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
So let's go back to the Zelensky deal. Zelensky says
Putin can't be trusted to keep his word, and we've
all heard Putin's bad Russia, bad our, whole lives. We're
hiding under the desk because the Russians were gonna bomb
us at any moment, right, bad guy's coming, boogeyman. Well,
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here was Bill Clinton back in twenty thirteen being interviewed
with Pierce Morgan. This is long before Zelensky is even
in power, and Piers Morgan says, you know, how is
Putin to deal with because they famously had a pretty
good relationship, and no one accused Bill Clinton, as they
do with Donald Trump, of somehow being a Russian asset.
(29:53):
Oh no, no, no, that was diplomacy. When Bill Clinton
was able to get along.
Speaker 19 (29:57):
With him effort to get the Syrian government to declare,
disclose and then hand over their chemical weapons. We'd be
crazy not to take advantage of this.
Speaker 20 (30:07):
There's somebody'll saying, though something something sounds too good to
be true.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It usually is too good to be true.
Speaker 20 (30:12):
Can we really believe that Vladimir Putin, with his own
self interest for Russia, is orchestrating this huge maneuver to
remove all of US science chemical weapons.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, and it's just going to happen. No, we don't
have to believe it.
Speaker 19 (30:25):
We just have to see what happens and make the
most of what happens. You You work for the best
and prepare for the worst in this business. But I
think it would be a terrible mistake not to take
advantage of the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And you know, look, mister.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Putin has got he got all.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
He's very smart, you know him better than most people.
Speaker 20 (30:47):
Yeah, what was he like behind closed doors, away from
you know, the sort of the public utterances?
Speaker 19 (30:53):
Smart and remarkably we had a really good blunt relationship.
Speaker 20 (31:01):
Help blumed, brutally blunt.
Speaker 19 (31:06):
No, But I think, you know, I think the right
strategy most of the time is but it's frustrating to
people in your line of work. You should be brutally
honest with people in private, and then if you want
them to help you try to avoid embarrassing them in public. Now,
sometimes they do things which make it impossible for you
(31:26):
to keep quiet. But by and large, I found all
the people I dealt with appreciated it if I told
them the truth, how I honestly felt, and what our
interests were and what our objectives were. And they also
appreciated it when I didn't kick them around in public.
For as long as I couldn't kick them around, So
(31:47):
you know that's my experience, and.
Speaker 20 (31:48):
Computeron ever reneged on a personal he did not, so
behind closed douels he could be trusted.
Speaker 19 (31:57):
He kept his word and all the deals we made.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So Clinton.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Said that Putin kept his word, but Zelensky says he's
not to be trusted, and Zolensky is an honorable man.
Zelensky says that Putin's our enemy and that we will
either give him hundreds of billions of dollars more or
(32:27):
our sons will be dragged into his war.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And will die there.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Zelensky also says that over one hundred billion dollars of
what we've sent him is lost and we have no
idea where it is. And Zelensky is an honorable man
because we've been told so by our media, and we've
(32:52):
been told so by our deep state, and we've been
told so by Vogue magazine and Vanity Fair and all
the rest. And if they tell us something, I believe it,
don't you
Speaker 2 (33:29):
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