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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very show is on the air, and this morning
you woke up dead.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And the hell you wake up bed because you're alive when.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Just tell me you can you telling me that you
can go to bed dead and wake up alive.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You can't go to bed dead, man, Just tell no when,
because you can go to bed and not be dead,
and you can die but not be in a bed.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But you are in a bed.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's how you wake up dead in the first place.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
Food die up, man talking, We take a class.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Three hundred thousand people have already died from just this cut.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Off, this hard cut of USAID.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So this food rotting in boats and warehouses, there is this.
This This will whep you off. This will not You
will not be happy, No American will. But there is
I think it's fifty thousand tons of foods stored in Chibouti,
South Africa, Dubai and wait for it, Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
The Secretary of State Marco Rubio is hailing the end
of USAID, the nation's largest foreign aid agency, even as
a new analysis finds that its closure could contribute to
some fourteen million deaths in the next five.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Years estimate, and I believe these are very concerned estimates
that HR one would lead to seventy thousand kids dying.
Of that, seventy thousand and thirty thousand would come from
malaria control programs that would have to be scaled back. Specifically,
the other forty thousand is broken out as twenty four
thousand would die because of a lack of support for
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immunizations and other investments, and sixteen thousand would be because
of a lack of skilled attendance at birth.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
I am exceptionally upset about USA.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I lived in a refugee camp for four.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
Years as a child surviving Civil war. It is the
essential programs that provided that kept my family an eye
fit as safe.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The consequences why that people die. Babies die?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I mean right now we are involved in Gaza and
in Sudan in providing food to malnourished babies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Literally, there will be dead children. The hundreds thousands of
local Fox News is Lydia who with a list of
some of the benefits of the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 9 (02:25):
The House Ways and Means Committee estimates this bill could
deliver as much as ten thousand, nine hundred dollars, an
additional take home income pay for the typical family. It
would block a tax hike by making the twenty seventeen
tax cuts permanent and deliver additional tax cuts such as
the child tax credit that you just mentioned, making it
permanent and raising it from two thousand dollars per child
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to twenty two hundred dollars per child. The bill also
creates a Trump Investment Account for kids.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Children born between this year.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Twenty twenty five and twenty twenty eight would get one
thousand dollars government contribution, and families can add up to
five thousand dollars. Also, the bill additionally expands five twenty
nine education savings accounts to allow more flexibility for spending
on kindergarten through high school expenses. The bill enhances the
adoption tax credit too. It would partially be refundable up
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to five thousand dollars so more people can grow their
families through adoption. And then finally it locks in a
standard deduction for families, which was nearly doubled by Trump
in twenty seventeen, and it increases it to thirty one thousand,
five hundred. And of course, these are all features in
addition to the hallmarks like no tax on tips, no
tax on overtime, and additionally tax relief for senior So
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a lot baked in here.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Former advisor to Bill Clinton, Paul mcgala was on CNN
when he said Republicans have cut medicaid for their voters.
Listen to him laugh when he realizes that he set
up Scott Jennings with the softball home run pitch.
Speaker 10 (04:03):
They're gonna get so they're gonna punish. Look as a partisan,
it'll be great for my party. As a citizen, i
hate it because they're gonna come. They're gonna hunt them
down with dogs. I'm not kidding. You heard it here first,
save this tape. It's gonna be a wipeout for your party.
Speaker 11 (04:16):
Scott.
Speaker 10 (04:16):
If you guys cut medicaid for the people who voted
for you, We're not cutting medicaid for the people who
voted for us. We're cutting medicaid for the people who
vote for Democrats.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
They were cutting medicated.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And it's true illegal aliens. And if we have our way,
they will be cut out of the census and California
will lose seats and Texas in Florida will gain seats.
And the House will properly represent where voters are. Nancy
Pelosi and the Democrats love to pretend to do things
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for the children. Everything is for the children. Even if
she has to punch somebody, it's for the children.
Speaker 12 (05:01):
Doctor King nearly sixty years ago said, of all the
forms of inequality and justice, and health is the most
shocking and the most inhuman, because it often results in
physical death. We come to this floor with a moral
force of doctor King's words in our heart. Let us
not with this bill turn the American dream he talked
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about in a nightmare for America's seniors that disabled our children,
Our children, our children. Let us vote know on this
shameful bill and throw a punch for the children.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Throw a punch, you know. Joe Rogan made a good point.
Nancy Pelosi's never made more than one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars a year, but she's worth over one
hundred million dollars. Now like the Nancy Pelosi situation. She's
never made more than one hundred and seventy five thousand
dollars a year, she's worth one hundred and something million dollars.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's like corruption.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Corruption.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It only happens their corruption, and it's transparent legal corruption.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's very strange, but it's for the children. It's always
been for the children. A montage of dims exploiting the children.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The effect on the water that our children breathe and
rather water our children drinking.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
How many more little babies, how many more the children?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
How many more americ.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Considers the must die of gun violence.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
It's always about the children. So for the children of
my state and the children of America, it's always about
the children.
Speaker 11 (06:34):
But for the sake of our children and our future,
we must do more to combat climate change.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 12 (06:41):
We have over one hundred thousand children which we've never
had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Second, must take on mental health, especially among our children
whose lives and education have been turned upside down.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
My mom said, have you tried to ask? We both
laughed so hard. Show it's kind of embarrassing action.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
He's are idiots?
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Were diliware?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
One of the things I find most funny is when
politicians claim that people say things to them and literally
nobody believes that that really happened. They're such liars. Remember
Kamala Harris used to do this, but the member of
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the squad, Promena Jayapaul, was on CNN and she claimed
that people come up to her at the airport and
cry on her shoulder over the big beautiful mill and
literally nobody believes her. So it's one of these situations.
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You have it in your workplace, or in your church,
or even at home, where you've got somebody that just
makes things up and nobody even bothers to confront them.
You just don't believe a word they say.
Speaker 13 (08:16):
I just can't emphasize how I mean. I'm getting calls
and in the airports, people come up to me when
they recognize me and they're sobbing on my shoulder because
they know that so many people, whether it's people who
are delivering baby sixty percent of burst in Mike Johnson's
home state of Louisiana paid for it by Medicaid, or
whether it's you know, seniors and nursing homes, or whether
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it's folks with disabilities. Those are the people that are
going to be so incredibly hurt by this cruel betrayal
of a film.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Literally no one believes her. You know who people do
believe because he says what he's going to do and
he does what he says. Our borders are, Tom Holman.
This guy's an American hero, he really is. This is
the kind of person you have to have as your
borders are. You cannot have a softy. They're going to
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get criticized. They're going to get called a Nazi, they're
gonna get called a fascist, they're gonna get called a
murder or they're gonna get called all these horrible things.
You have to have someone who stays true to his focus,
who delivers, who does what he's supposed to do, and
the way he deals with the media. I mean, it's
just absolutely relentless. It's fearless, and I love it. Just
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five vice.
Speaker 11 (09:31):
But here, if you're in a country legally should have
you should be concerned. It's not actually being a country legally.
If you're if you're a national security threat, you should
be working. We're looking for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For so many years, Democrats have said, we're not trying
to recruit people to come here, We're not encouraging them.
To come here. We want to support the law. We
believe in the law. But it wasn't until the law
was actually being enforced and the border was closed that
they've been forced to say no, no, no, you're right,
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we do want illegal aliens to come here. We do
want to replace you. You know, there is a Netflix
video it just posted this week and it's about the
seven seven. So we have nine to eleven, they have
seven seven in England and it's about Muslim terrorists blowing up,
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killing at one point fifty two people and themselves four
more in the Tube in London, the Metro, the underground
subway station, and then they followed it up with more attacks.
And the film is about the terror attacks and how
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these young Muslim men were radicalized. These were young muslimmen
who were born in England, who had every opportunity, who
grew up with all the benefits and privileges of being
British citizens, and yet they decided to fall under the
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tutelage of Pakistani imams. They would take trips to Pakistan,
which they had never visited before. They would go through
these camps and they would come back and then they
would set up bombs to kill as many British people
as they possibly could. And so the British people are
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frustrated and they're talking through this, and you wonder, and
Christopher Hitchins used to say this, if you never allowed
a single person in, would you have these terror attacks?
We agree to allow in people that would now create
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terror attacks, drive drunk and kill our people, traffic children,
traffic drugs, set up medicare scams. Where was the point
because that offer wasn't made. You can take in all
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these people, but you're also going to have this downside. Well,
we didn't make that decision. We didn't choose not to
enforce our laws. America's laws with regard to illegal immigration
didn't change. Seven hundred people yesterday became legal citizens of
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the United States, representing seventy three countries. We make more
people citizens of our country, with every right, with every privilege,
than all other countries in the world do in theirs.
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We have nothing to be ashamed of. We have shared
everything we have built, and over the course of our existence,
allowed others to come here and enjoy it and contribute
to it and be part of it and be considered
full Americans. But there came a point in time where
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some well intentioned people and some people with evil intentions
made a match to open our borders, to encourage illegal immigration,
to reward illegal immigration, to refuse to stop illegal immigration.
And we are at a point now where we are
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witnessing what happens the deportations that we're witnessing. Tom Holman
says that he and his wife are not able to
live together right now because he is so afraid of
the death threats against their family.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
My wife's lives separately from you right now, mainly because
I worked for many hours, but mostly because of the
death threats against me and I actually someplace else. I
serious one second, but the death threats against me and
my family outrageous. So from the boys both growing up,
one followed my footstep, shuttle this. One other wants to
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bankrupt me in college.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What kind of people are we allowing into our country
that are now placing death threats on our leaders?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Allow me to do.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My name is MITCHA.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Michael Berry genius.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Twenty years ago, George W. Bush was the president. A
lot of folks you and I knew were serving in
Iraq and Afghanistan. The death toll was disturbing every community
in the country. Was affected. Mind how things have changed
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in twenty years. I never forget the first reference I
heard to Loan Survivor. My brother Chris had read the
book and he said, have you read this book Loan Survivor?
Speaker 11 (15:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He said, do you know who Marcus A. Trellis said,
I don't. She's written this book called Loan Survivor. Okay,
it's about they went in Operation Red Wings. They went
into Afghanistan, and he's the only one who came out.
It's a story, man, Wow, it is. Wow, it is.
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It's incredible, it's disturbing. Then they make the movie. Then
we get to meet Marcus. Then we develop a friendship,
and a lot has happened in those twenty years. It's
time to revisit that twenty years later. Marcus Atreu, welcome
back to the program.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
What were you doing just before you came on the show?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
All right, with complete transparency. One of my lab got
hit by a skunk the other day yesterday, and I'm
out here and I don't know when the last time
you've had that happen, but brother, it's something. So that's
kind of what I'm dealing with right now.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I was thinking of a great headline for this discussion,
and I already have it, uh loan survivor Navy seal
Marcus Latrelle admitted douching before interview.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right, I don't because you know, the first thing she
did when she got hit would come in and get.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
On the couch.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
So when I walked in, I don't know what smell it.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
They just do that, right, Yeah, what do you have
a what remedy do you use to get rid of
that funk?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Marcus, we had a place out in Carmene next to
Chapel Hill and we had two dogs get hit two
consecutive weekends, and we went to I called my buddies
that were veterinarians and they said, go get mass and
Gill Douche. That is the best. I came back and
talked about it on the air. I heard, I heard
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every solution known to mankind. I think it's a mess.
No matter what you do, have you decided what you're doing?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
So I go with the hydrogen peroxide and the mam
malls Okay, yeah, it's an oil right, it's oil based, yep, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And the thing about it is when she.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Goes it is it's good they need to bottle that
up and use it and give it to people for defense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You're getting attacked and you smack somebody with that, they're
not gonna stick around.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah yeah, no, no, no, even a porcupine. You know,
you could hide behind a shield with a porcupine, but
that's skunk. That's bad stuff. Let's tell the story you've
told before, but I think people should know how you
and and Morgan decided you wanted to be Navy seals
and began training at a very young age. And the
man who put you through that program.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
It was Morgan's idea. He came down.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I was feeding the horses and he's like, hey, I
know we're gonna do. We're gonna be Navy Seals. It's
gonna be great. We get to jump out of airplanes,
we get to shoot guns, we get to blow things up,
we get the scuba dive, and there's a really good
chance we're going to die. And I was like, okay,
you sign me up.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Being a younger brother, I kind of followed him around
everywhere he came up with the ideas, but I usually
had to go first, so that that's when that happened.
We were new teenagers, fourteen fifteen years old, and there
was a gentleman who lived in town. We actually grew
up with his daughter. We were in the same grade,
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and he would come into the high school and work
the kids out in the gym, and then he had
a reputation for training young men to go into the military,
into the special forces. They was Billy. So we got
the courage to go ask him to train us. I
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mean I walked up on him. I'll never get it,
and caught him during dinner time, got peace fried chicken
in his hand and he's like, what do you knock
over the door. He's like, what do you want? And
I was like, well, sir, we want to be Navy seals.
We heard you train people to do that, and I
was wondering if you would train us. Kind of looked
at me for a little bit, and I had some
buddies with me, looked over my shoulder, and he told
us four to thirty tomorrow and he slammed the door
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in our face. So we left and then the next
day we showed up at four thirty. Matter of fact,
this is my first life lesson that I ever got
taught with him kind of stands true to this very day.
You know, someone tells you to be somewhere at a
certain time, you're always fifteen minutes early. When we were,
we showed up at four thirty, which is not on time.
And he man, he was out there waiting on us.
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I remember running up to the yard and he was
pointing at us and at the ground. He's pointing at
his watching at us and at the ground. And then
when we got within the yard that he was cussing
us up one side and down the other.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I mean good. You know, some people just have a
gift for profanity. He does.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
He has that, and they can apply it in certain
ways and when it and then it's really really impactful.
I still remember it. I mean, bro, this is over
twenty years ago. And he stopped us in the street
and he drew a line in the dirt with the
head with his bootheel, and he said, every day you
come here, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to cross
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this line. He goes, what you're wanting to do and
where you're.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Going is a voluntary program.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Any time on he goes, you should probably quar right now,
because if you cross this line, I'm gonna I'm gonna
beat you. I'm gonna do everything I can to break you.
He's like, I'm not your mother. I don't care whether
you live or die. And he said, when a man
goes to war, his brain turns the water and runs
out of his ears, and all he has to go
on is instinct. And the guy to the right and
the left of him, he's like, if you want a
little bit of that across the line. At that age,
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you know you're invincible still. I mean you you walk
around with immortality.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You can feel it. When you're that age. Everything heals
up the way it's supposed to. So we did.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We crossed the line, and I remember he dropped us
down to do some push ups. He's like, everybody on
your face doing three hundred push ups for being late.
And that's not a lot of push ups. But if
you got some guys who aren't in shape, you're gonna
be paying the man. So that's kind of what happened
to us. He started matching the deck, going down, up
and down.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And we got out of sink. He started a teeter
totter a little bit, and he stopped us. And I'll
never forget he.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Goes, you know, as a team, you're gonna go down together,
and you're gonna come up together.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
You're gonna live together, and you're gonna die together. He goes,
you're not a team.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Start over.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And that's how it started for us. And he just
from that moment on he waved into us pretty hard.
I remember we we probably got an hour into it.
A couple of hours into it. We couldn't get those
push ups down. And he got so sick and tired
of us that he kicked us off his property.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
He's like, go home. He goes, you're.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You're you know you you're a disgrace to your family.
He goes, when you get home, walk right up to
your dad and punch him in the faith and tell
him to start over because he left up on you.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And uh, he said.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
If you want to do this again tomorrow, show up
on time. Don't ever be late. My time is the
one thing I can't control. I don't have any bearing
over it, so I'm not gonna waste it on you.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
If you're not gonna you're not gonna show up on time.
And that was the first lesson he taught me and
all of us actually.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Kind of how much how much older than you is?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Morgan seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh that makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It would have been back in the day it'd been
to King.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Marcus Patrel is our guests, we're going to Afghanistan and
Operation Red Wings and Loan Survivor and all of that
coming up.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Well, well, well, lucky you.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
The Michael Ferry Show continues.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Our guest is Loan Survivor, Marcus Satrel. Twenty years after
Operation Redwens Marcus less rocket forward to you getting orders
to go to Afghanistan. How did that come down?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So they split the platoon in half and the steal teams.
There's troops and there's platoons, and since there was two
wars going down at the same time, there was more
than enough work to go around. And our particular platoon
was specialized in reconnaissance. I was with special deliveries, so
we were a smaller unit. But what would happen is
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they would split us down the middle and kind of
pimp us out to the other seal teams because of
our specialty. So when it came time to see who
was going where, my half of the platoon was tasked
to go to Afghanistan and the rest of our guys
went to Iraq.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
And that's how that worked out.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
Was there.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Were you and Morgan intentionally split?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Especially in the beginning. I went through
feel training before him, so I was ahead of him
a little bit. But eventually we wound up back together.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And the only.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Stipulation on that was especially in the beginning, as we
weren't allowed to ride in the same helicopters or the
same Humbies. And when I got when I got initially
into the teams, I got sent to Iraq first, and
he got sent to Afghanistan, and then when I got
back from Iraq, I got sent to Afghanistan. So it
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was one of those deals. We were kind of missing
each other back and forth. Eventually we wound up together
in Iraq, but in the beginning we were separated by awards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So tell me about the training for Red Wings.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
We started, Well, the thing about Navy sealds is we're
constantly training.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
If we're not sleeping or eating or.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Working out, then it's always training, work up for training.
And then, like I said, our job was special a constance.
We were doing a lot of direct action missions. Village takedowns,
snatching grabs, sniper overwatches, meaning it was desolate country out there,
completely different fighting than we're talking about in Iraq and
the city. So we were doing a lot of helicopter
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reconnaissance and then then we would fast rope in and
they would drop us off in the mountains and leave
us anywhere from five to ten days, maybe two weeks,
and then they would resupply by air drop. So we
were kind of the eyes on If any unit does
a hit or they go in, they're always going to
have eyes on the target first to kind of get
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an idea of what was going on, and that was
our job. So it was constantly working with the helicopter
units getting that online. The satellite imagery was getting pretty
good back in two thousand and five. It's not like
it is now where you could see everything and through walls,
but back then the imagery was getting pretty good. So
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we were doing a lot of map studies, switching up
our gear, making sure everything was good enough and we
were well prepared for whatever environment we we got in
because the terrain would change with the miles, so it
was constant preparation and training.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So take me through the moment you're on the side
of the mountain and you're there to get the bad guy,
and these goat herders come upon you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So we were separated probably about enough to where we
could we could barely see each other, so not enough
to where we were sitting round beside each other to
make a big signature, but far enough away from.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Each other that if we needed to get to each other,
we could.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
And the terrain really wasn't conducive for a perfect setup.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So we had perched up.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
We were well over ten thousand feet on the side
of this mountain. So imagine a volcano with a village
stuck down at the bottom of it, and we came
in over.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
The top of it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So what we did was we kind of rope down
and climbed down inside of the volcano itself so we
can get a better vantage point on what was going
on in the village. We set up in a triangle formation.
I was at the top of it. The top of
the mountain was probably fifteen to twenty meters above my head,
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and then Danny and Mikey was right under, actually.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Right underneath me, and then on my right left flank
was Danny and Aggs. I maybe saying that wrong. I
think Mikey might have been underneath me. It's been a
minute now.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But anyways, we set up, started watching the target, and
the sun had come up. We'd been there overnight and
we were just monitoring all the activity when.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We had to move, so we relocated.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Onto a finger that was sitting off the side of
the mountain so we could get a better vantage on
some of the houses.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And when we did that, about an hour after.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Set up, a shepherd walked up on us, and I
mean he walked right up on it. And now, actually,
I'll never forget to look on this dude.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Faith He didn't. He had no idea we were there
at all.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
And we grabbed him and pulled him off the side
and started to interrogate him. And then about that time
two more came up the mountain and we snatched them
up and sat them down, and then the herd of
goats came walking up. I remember there was a dog there,
which was kind of odd because they gonna keep dogs,
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but I remember the big, old, kricking, mangy dog that
was barking. And so we started going through the numbers
of what to do, and eventually what happened was we
turned them loose and then they left. We watched them leave,
and then we relocated back into a different position back
on the side of the mountain. Right after that, about
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an hour or so is when the main body came
up on top of us.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And there was when they came up on top of you.
You know they've come up on top of you. You
didn't see them or hear them. You just bullets start whizzing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So they're extremely quiet, and you can't take anything away
from them as an enemy because they are great at
what they do. They know that terrain. They were a
formidable force. And I'll always pay.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Him respect like that. I mean, they can fight.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So at first, I kind of looked down and it
was actually was below me, and I remember him looking
past me. He was cut down behind this rock and
he had his rifle up. So I kind of looked
around and looked back up above me and there.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Was a huge tree and this guy I saw an
ak musclem come around it.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And then the guy who was he was hooded up,
turned around and looked at it, looked down into us.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So I rolled my rifle up and when I went
to take.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
A shot, he pulled his head back.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Around the tree.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And after when I came off my scope, I could
look right above me, to my left and right, and
there was guys setting up over the top of us and.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Down on the side of it. And then I remember
looking over at Mike. Yeah, I said, get back on
the clock if he can.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Get it on, and then I turned back around and waited,
and eventually what happened was that guy pulled his head.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Around that tree to take a shot, and when he did,
I dumped him. And when I dumped him, it just
it was game on.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
They kind of unleashed and the fight came in, and
eventually what happened was is we got pushed out of
that position, and the terrain was so violent that it
just we kind of started tumbling down the mountain.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
How long was it until one of you had been hit?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That was probably only initial while we were still in there,
so pretty quick. And then systematically guy started getting a
god down.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Hold in just a moment. Marcus la Troll's our get
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very show is on the air, and this morning
you woke up dead.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And the hell you wake up bed because you're alive when.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Just tell me you can you telling me that you
can go to bed dead and wake up alive.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You can't go to bed dead, man, Just tell no when,
because you can go to bed and not be dead,
and you can die but not be in a bed.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But you are in a bed.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's how you wake up dead in the first place.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
Food die up, man talking, We take a class.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Three hundred thousand people have already died from just this cut.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Off, this hard cut of USAID.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So this food rotting in boats and warehouses, there is this.
This This will whep you off. This will not You
will not be happy, No American will. But there is
I think it's fifty thousand tons of foods stored in Chibouti,
South Africa, Dubai and wait for it, Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
The Secretary of State Marco Rubio is hailing the end
of USAID, the nation's largest foreign aid agency, even as
a new analysis finds that its closure could contribute to
some fourteen million deaths in the next five.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Years estimate, and I believe these are very concerned estimates
that HR one would lead to seventy thousand kids dying.
Of that, seventy thousand and thirty thousand would come from
malaria control programs that would have to be scaled back. Specifically,
the other forty thousand is broken out as twenty four
thousand would die because of a lack of support for
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immunizations and other investments, and sixteen thousand would be because
of a lack of skilled attendance at birth.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
I am exceptionally upset about USA.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I lived in a refugee camp for four.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
Years as a child surviving Civil war. It is the
essential programs that provided that kept my family an eye
fit as safe.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The consequences why that people die. Babies die?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I mean right now we are involved in Gaza and
in Sudan in providing food to malnourished babies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Literally, there will be dead children. The hundreds thousands of
local Fox News is Lydia who with a list of
some of the benefits of the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 9 (02:25):
The House Ways and Means Committee estimates this bill could
deliver as much as ten thousand, nine hundred dollars, an
additional take home income pay for the typical family. It
would block a tax hike by making the twenty seventeen
tax cuts permanent and deliver additional tax cuts such as
the child tax credit that you just mentioned, making it
permanent and raising it from two thousand dollars per child
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to twenty two hundred dollars per child. The bill also
creates a Trump Investment Account for kids.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Children born between this year.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Twenty twenty five and twenty twenty eight would get one
thousand dollars government contribution, and families can add up to
five thousand dollars. Also, the bill additionally expands five twenty
nine education savings accounts to allow more flexibility for spending
on kindergarten through high school expenses. The bill enhances the
adoption tax credit too. It would partially be refundable up
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to five thousand dollars so more people can grow their
families through adoption. And then finally it locks in a
standard deduction for families, which was nearly doubled by Trump
in twenty seventeen, and it increases it to thirty one thousand,
five hundred. And of course, these are all features in
addition to the hallmarks like no tax on tips, no
tax on overtime, and additionally tax relief for senior So
(03:40):
a lot baked in here.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Former advisor to Bill Clinton, Paul mcgala was on CNN
when he said Republicans have cut medicaid for their voters.
Listen to him laugh when he realizes that he set
up Scott Jennings with the softball home run pitch.
Speaker 10 (04:03):
They're gonna get so they're gonna punish. Look as a partisan,
it'll be great for my party. As a citizen, i
hate it because they're gonna come. They're gonna hunt them
down with dogs. I'm not kidding. You heard it here first,
save this tape. It's gonna be a wipeout for your party.
Speaker 11 (04:16):
Scott.
Speaker 10 (04:16):
If you guys cut medicaid for the people who voted
for you, We're not cutting medicaid for the people who
voted for us. We're cutting medicaid for the people who
vote for Democrats.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
They were cutting medicated.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And it's true illegal aliens. And if we have our way,
they will be cut out of the census and California
will lose seats and Texas in Florida will gain seats.
And the House will properly represent where voters are. Nancy
Pelosi and the Democrats love to pretend to do things
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for the children. Everything is for the children. Even if
she has to punch somebody, it's for the children.
Speaker 12 (05:01):
Doctor King nearly sixty years ago said, of all the
forms of inequality and justice, and health is the most
shocking and the most inhuman, because it often results in
physical death. We come to this floor with a moral
force of doctor King's words in our heart. Let us
not with this bill turn the American dream he talked
(05:23):
about in a nightmare for America's seniors that disabled our children,
Our children, our children. Let us vote know on this
shameful bill and throw a punch for the children.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Throw a punch, you know. Joe Rogan made a good point.
Nancy Pelosi's never made more than one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars a year, but she's worth over one
hundred million dollars. Now like the Nancy Pelosi situation. She's
never made more than one hundred and seventy five thousand
dollars a year, she's worth one hundred and something million dollars.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's like corruption.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Corruption.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It only happens their corruption, and it's transparent legal corruption.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's very strange, but it's for the children. It's always
been for the children. A montage of dims exploiting the children.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The effect on the water that our children breathe and
rather water our children drinking.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
How many more little babies, how many more the children?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
How many more americ.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Considers the must die of gun violence.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
It's always about the children. So for the children of
my state and the children of America, it's always about
the children.
Speaker 11 (06:34):
But for the sake of our children and our future,
we must do more to combat climate change.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 12 (06:41):
We have over one hundred thousand children which we've never
had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Second, must take on mental health, especially among our children
whose lives and education have been turned upside down.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's always about the children.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
My mom said, have you tried to ask? We both
laughed so hard. Show it's kind of embarrassing action.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
He's are idiots?
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Were diliware?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
One of the things I find most funny is when
politicians claim that people say things to them and literally
nobody believes that that really happened. They're such liars. Remember
Kamala Harris used to do this, but the member of
(07:39):
the squad, Promena Jayapaul, was on CNN and she claimed
that people come up to her at the airport and
cry on her shoulder over the big beautiful mill and
literally nobody believes her. So it's one of these situations.
(08:02):
You have it in your workplace, or in your church,
or even at home, where you've got somebody that just
makes things up and nobody even bothers to confront them.
You just don't believe a word they say.
Speaker 13 (08:16):
I just can't emphasize how I mean. I'm getting calls
and in the airports, people come up to me when
they recognize me and they're sobbing on my shoulder because
they know that so many people, whether it's people who
are delivering baby sixty percent of burst in Mike Johnson's
home state of Louisiana paid for it by Medicaid, or
whether it's you know, seniors and nursing homes, or whether
(08:37):
it's folks with disabilities. Those are the people that are
going to be so incredibly hurt by this cruel betrayal
of a film.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Literally no one believes her. You know who people do
believe because he says what he's going to do and
he does what he says. Our borders are, Tom Holman.
This guy's an American hero, he really is. This is
the kind of person you have to have as your
borders are. You cannot have a softy. They're going to
(09:08):
get criticized. They're going to get called a Nazi, they're
gonna get called a fascist, they're gonna get called a
murder or they're gonna get called all these horrible things.
You have to have someone who stays true to his focus,
who delivers, who does what he's supposed to do, and
the way he deals with the media. I mean, it's
just absolutely relentless. It's fearless, and I love it. Just
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five vice.
Speaker 11 (09:31):
But here, if you're in a country legally should have
you should be concerned. It's not actually being a country legally.
If you're if you're a national security threat, you should
be working. We're looking for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For so many years, Democrats have said, we're not trying
to recruit people to come here, We're not encouraging them.
To come here. We want to support the law. We
believe in the law. But it wasn't until the law
was actually being enforced and the border was closed that
they've been forced to say no, no, no, you're right,
(10:07):
we do want illegal aliens to come here. We do
want to replace you. You know, there is a Netflix
video it just posted this week and it's about the
seven seven. So we have nine to eleven, they have
seven seven in England and it's about Muslim terrorists blowing up,
(10:31):
killing at one point fifty two people and themselves four
more in the Tube in London, the Metro, the underground
subway station, and then they followed it up with more attacks.
And the film is about the terror attacks and how
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these young Muslim men were radicalized. These were young muslimmen
who were born in England, who had every opportunity, who
grew up with all the benefits and privileges of being
British citizens, and yet they decided to fall under the
(11:22):
tutelage of Pakistani imams. They would take trips to Pakistan,
which they had never visited before. They would go through
these camps and they would come back and then they
would set up bombs to kill as many British people
as they possibly could. And so the British people are
(11:45):
frustrated and they're talking through this, and you wonder, and
Christopher Hitchins used to say this, if you never allowed
a single person in, would you have these terror attacks?
We agree to allow in people that would now create
(12:08):
terror attacks, drive drunk and kill our people, traffic children,
traffic drugs, set up medicare scams. Where was the point
because that offer wasn't made. You can take in all
(12:29):
these people, but you're also going to have this downside. Well,
we didn't make that decision. We didn't choose not to
enforce our laws. America's laws with regard to illegal immigration
didn't change. Seven hundred people yesterday became legal citizens of
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the United States, representing seventy three countries. We make more
people citizens of our country, with every right, with every privilege,
than all other countries in the world do in theirs.
(13:17):
We have nothing to be ashamed of. We have shared
everything we have built, and over the course of our existence,
allowed others to come here and enjoy it and contribute
to it and be part of it and be considered
full Americans. But there came a point in time where
(13:43):
some well intentioned people and some people with evil intentions
made a match to open our borders, to encourage illegal immigration,
to reward illegal immigration, to refuse to stop illegal immigration.
And we are at a point now where we are
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witnessing what happens the deportations that we're witnessing. Tom Holman
says that he and his wife are not able to
live together right now because he is so afraid of
the death threats against their family.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
My wife's lives separately from you right now, mainly because
I worked for many hours, but mostly because of the
death threats against me and I actually someplace else. I
serious one second, but the death threats against me and
my family outrageous. So from the boys both growing up,
one followed my footstep, shuttle this. One other wants to
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bankrupt me in college.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What kind of people are we allowing into our country
that are now placing death threats on our leaders?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Allow me to do.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My name is MITCHA.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Michael Berry genius.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Twenty years ago, George W. Bush was the president. A
lot of folks you and I knew were serving in
Iraq and Afghanistan. The death toll was disturbing every community
in the country. Was affected. Mind how things have changed
(15:29):
in twenty years. I never forget the first reference I
heard to Loan Survivor. My brother Chris had read the
book and he said, have you read this book Loan Survivor?
Speaker 11 (15:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He said, do you know who Marcus A. Trellis said,
I don't. She's written this book called Loan Survivor. Okay,
it's about they went in Operation Red Wings. They went
into Afghanistan, and he's the only one who came out.
It's a story, man, Wow, it is. Wow, it is.
(16:10):
It's incredible, it's disturbing. Then they make the movie. Then
we get to meet Marcus. Then we develop a friendship,
and a lot has happened in those twenty years. It's
time to revisit that twenty years later. Marcus Atreu, welcome
back to the program.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
What were you doing just before you came on the show?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
All right, with complete transparency. One of my lab got
hit by a skunk the other day yesterday, and I'm
out here and I don't know when the last time
you've had that happen, but brother, it's something. So that's
kind of what I'm dealing with right now.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I was thinking of a great headline for this discussion,
and I already have it, uh loan survivor Navy seal
Marcus Latrelle admitted douching before interview.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right, I don't because you know, the first thing she
did when she got hit would come in and get.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
On the couch.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
So when I walked in, I don't know what smell it.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
They just do that, right, Yeah, what do you have
a what remedy do you use to get rid of
that funk?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Marcus, we had a place out in Carmene next to
Chapel Hill and we had two dogs get hit two
consecutive weekends, and we went to I called my buddies
that were veterinarians and they said, go get mass and
Gill Douche. That is the best. I came back and
talked about it on the air. I heard, I heard
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every solution known to mankind. I think it's a mess.
No matter what you do, have you decided what you're doing?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
So I go with the hydrogen peroxide and the mam
malls Okay, yeah, it's an oil right, it's oil based, yep, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And the thing about it is when she.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Goes it is it's good they need to bottle that
up and use it and give it to people for defense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You're getting attacked and you smack somebody with that, they're
not gonna stick around.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah yeah, no, no, no, even a porcupine. You know,
you could hide behind a shield with a porcupine, but
that's skunk. That's bad stuff. Let's tell the story you've
told before, but I think people should know how you
and and Morgan decided you wanted to be Navy seals
and began training at a very young age. And the
man who put you through that program.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
It was Morgan's idea. He came down.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I was feeding the horses and he's like, hey, I
know we're gonna do. We're gonna be Navy Seals. It's
gonna be great. We get to jump out of airplanes,
we get to shoot guns, we get to blow things up,
we get the scuba dive, and there's a really good
chance we're going to die. And I was like, okay,
you sign me up.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Being a younger brother, I kind of followed him around
everywhere he came up with the ideas, but I usually
had to go first, so that that's when that happened.
We were new teenagers, fourteen fifteen years old, and there
was a gentleman who lived in town. We actually grew
up with his daughter. We were in the same grade,
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and he would come into the high school and work
the kids out in the gym, and then he had
a reputation for training young men to go into the military,
into the special forces. They was Billy. So we got
the courage to go ask him to train us. I
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mean I walked up on him. I'll never get it,
and caught him during dinner time, got peace fried chicken
in his hand and he's like, what do you knock
over the door. He's like, what do you want? And
I was like, well, sir, we want to be Navy seals.
We heard you train people to do that, and I
was wondering if you would train us. Kind of looked
at me for a little bit, and I had some
buddies with me, looked over my shoulder, and he told
us four to thirty tomorrow and he slammed the door
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in our face. So we left and then the next
day we showed up at four thirty. Matter of fact,
this is my first life lesson that I ever got
taught with him kind of stands true to this very day.
You know, someone tells you to be somewhere at a
certain time, you're always fifteen minutes early. When we were,
we showed up at four thirty, which is not on time.
And he man, he was out there waiting on us.
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I remember running up to the yard and he was
pointing at us and at the ground. He's pointing at
his watching at us and at the ground. And then
when we got within the yard that he was cussing
us up one side and down the other.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I mean good. You know, some people just have a
gift for profanity. He does.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
He has that, and they can apply it in certain
ways and when it and then it's really really impactful.
I still remember it. I mean, bro, this is over
twenty years ago. And he stopped us in the street
and he drew a line in the dirt with the
head with his bootheel, and he said, every day you
come here, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to cross
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this line. He goes, what you're wanting to do and
where you're.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Going is a voluntary program.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Any time on he goes, you should probably quar right now,
because if you cross this line, I'm gonna I'm gonna
beat you. I'm gonna do everything I can to break you.
He's like, I'm not your mother. I don't care whether
you live or die. And he said, when a man
goes to war, his brain turns the water and runs
out of his ears, and all he has to go
on is instinct. And the guy to the right and
the left of him, he's like, if you want a
little bit of that across the line. At that age,
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you know you're invincible still. I mean you you walk
around with immortality.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You can feel it. When you're that age. Everything heals
up the way it's supposed to. So we did.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We crossed the line, and I remember he dropped us
down to do some push ups. He's like, everybody on
your face doing three hundred push ups for being late.
And that's not a lot of push ups. But if
you got some guys who aren't in shape, you're gonna
be paying the man. So that's kind of what happened
to us. He started matching the deck, going down, up
and down.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And we got out of sink. He started a teeter
totter a little bit, and he stopped us. And I'll
never forget he.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Goes, you know, as a team, you're gonna go down together,
and you're gonna come up together.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
You're gonna live together, and you're gonna die together. He goes,
you're not a team.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Start over.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And that's how it started for us. And he just
from that moment on he waved into us pretty hard.
I remember we we probably got an hour into it.
A couple of hours into it. We couldn't get those
push ups down. And he got so sick and tired
of us that he kicked us off his property.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
He's like, go home. He goes, you're.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You're you know you you're a disgrace to your family.
He goes, when you get home, walk right up to
your dad and punch him in the faith and tell
him to start over because he left up on you.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And uh, he said.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
If you want to do this again tomorrow, show up
on time. Don't ever be late. My time is the
one thing I can't control. I don't have any bearing
over it, so I'm not gonna waste it on you.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
If you're not gonna you're not gonna show up on time.
And that was the first lesson he taught me and
all of us actually.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Kind of how much how much older than you is?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Morgan seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh that makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It would have been back in the day it'd been
to King.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Marcus Patrel is our guests, we're going to Afghanistan and
Operation Red Wings and Loan Survivor and all of that
coming up.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Well, well, well, lucky you.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
The Michael Ferry Show continues.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Our guest is Loan Survivor, Marcus Satrel. Twenty years after
Operation Redwens Marcus less rocket forward to you getting orders
to go to Afghanistan. How did that come down?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So they split the platoon in half and the steal teams.
There's troops and there's platoons, and since there was two
wars going down at the same time, there was more
than enough work to go around. And our particular platoon
was specialized in reconnaissance. I was with special deliveries, so
we were a smaller unit. But what would happen is
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they would split us down the middle and kind of
pimp us out to the other seal teams because of
our specialty. So when it came time to see who
was going where, my half of the platoon was tasked
to go to Afghanistan and the rest of our guys
went to Iraq.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
And that's how that worked out.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
Was there.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Were you and Morgan intentionally split?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Especially in the beginning. I went through
feel training before him, so I was ahead of him
a little bit. But eventually we wound up back together.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And the only.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Stipulation on that was especially in the beginning, as we
weren't allowed to ride in the same helicopters or the
same Humbies. And when I got when I got initially
into the teams, I got sent to Iraq first, and
he got sent to Afghanistan, and then when I got
back from Iraq, I got sent to Afghanistan. So it
(25:15):
was one of those deals. We were kind of missing
each other back and forth. Eventually we wound up together
in Iraq, but in the beginning we were separated by awards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So tell me about the training for Red Wings.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
We started, Well, the thing about Navy sealds is we're
constantly training.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
If we're not sleeping or eating or.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Working out, then it's always training, work up for training.
And then, like I said, our job was special a constance.
We were doing a lot of direct action missions. Village takedowns,
snatching grabs, sniper overwatches, meaning it was desolate country out there,
completely different fighting than we're talking about in Iraq and
the city. So we were doing a lot of helicopter
(26:00):
reconnaissance and then then we would fast rope in and
they would drop us off in the mountains and leave
us anywhere from five to ten days, maybe two weeks,
and then they would resupply by air drop. So we
were kind of the eyes on If any unit does
a hit or they go in, they're always going to
have eyes on the target first to kind of get
(26:21):
an idea of what was going on, and that was
our job. So it was constantly working with the helicopter
units getting that online. The satellite imagery was getting pretty
good back in two thousand and five. It's not like
it is now where you could see everything and through walls,
but back then the imagery was getting pretty good. So
(26:43):
we were doing a lot of map studies, switching up
our gear, making sure everything was good enough and we
were well prepared for whatever environment we we got in
because the terrain would change with the miles, so it
was constant preparation and training.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So take me through the moment you're on the side
of the mountain and you're there to get the bad guy,
and these goat herders come upon you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So we were separated probably about enough to where we
could we could barely see each other, so not enough
to where we were sitting round beside each other to
make a big signature, but far enough away from.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Each other that if we needed to get to each other,
we could.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
And the terrain really wasn't conducive for a perfect setup.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So we had perched up.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
We were well over ten thousand feet on the side
of this mountain. So imagine a volcano with a village
stuck down at the bottom of it, and we came
in over.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
The top of it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So what we did was we kind of rope down
and climbed down inside of the volcano itself so we
can get a better vantage point on what was going
on in the village. We set up in a triangle formation.
I was at the top of it. The top of
the mountain was probably fifteen to twenty meters above my head,
(28:08):
and then Danny and Mikey was right under, actually.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Right underneath me, and then on my right left flank
was Danny and Aggs. I maybe saying that wrong. I
think Mikey might have been underneath me. It's been a
minute now.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But anyways, we set up, started watching the target, and
the sun had come up. We'd been there overnight and
we were just monitoring all the activity when.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We had to move, so we relocated.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Onto a finger that was sitting off the side of
the mountain so we could get a better vantage on
some of the houses.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And when we did that, about an hour after.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Set up, a shepherd walked up on us, and I
mean he walked right up on it. And now, actually,
I'll never forget to look on this dude.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Faith He didn't. He had no idea we were there
at all.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
And we grabbed him and pulled him off the side
and started to interrogate him. And then about that time
two more came up the mountain and we snatched them
up and sat them down, and then the herd of
goats came walking up. I remember there was a dog there,
which was kind of odd because they gonna keep dogs,
(29:25):
but I remember the big, old, kricking, mangy dog that
was barking. And so we started going through the numbers
of what to do, and eventually what happened was we
turned them loose and then they left. We watched them leave,
and then we relocated back into a different position back
on the side of the mountain. Right after that, about
(29:47):
an hour or so is when the main body came
up on top of us.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And there was when they came up on top of you.
You know they've come up on top of you. You
didn't see them or hear them. You just bullets start whizzing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So they're extremely quiet, and you can't take anything away
from them as an enemy because they are great at
what they do. They know that terrain. They were a
formidable force. And I'll always pay.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Him respect like that. I mean, they can fight.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So at first, I kind of looked down and it
was actually was below me, and I remember him looking
past me. He was cut down behind this rock and
he had his rifle up. So I kind of looked
around and looked back up above me and there.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Was a huge tree and this guy I saw an
ak musclem come around it.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And then the guy who was he was hooded up,
turned around and looked at it, looked down into us.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So I rolled my rifle up and when I went
to take.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
A shot, he pulled his head back.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Around the tree.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And after when I came off my scope, I could
look right above me, to my left and right, and
there was guys setting up over the top of us and.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Down on the side of it. And then I remember
looking over at Mike. Yeah, I said, get back on
the clock if he can.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Get it on, and then I turned back around and waited,
and eventually what happened was that guy pulled his head.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Around that tree to take a shot, and when he did,
I dumped him. And when I dumped him, it just
it was game on.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
They kind of unleashed and the fight came in, and
eventually what happened was is we got pushed out of
that position, and the terrain was so violent that it
just we kind of started tumbling down the mountain.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
How long was it until one of you had been hit?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That was probably only initial while we were still in there,
so pretty quick. And then systematically guy started getting a
god down.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Hold in just a moment. Marcus la Troll's our get
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