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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verry Show is on the air. It's Charlie from
BlackBerry Smoking. I can feel a good one coming on.
It's the Michael Berry Show. Oh yeah, yes it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Bring that down on me, Jim, you can keep it
real light. But because it is a Friday drive home.
But we were digging through our this Day in History
file today and this comes up as the Nelson Mandela
International Day. Okay, whatever one may think of Nelson Mandela,
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but it got me to thinking and we were laughing
about this. Sunday will be six months since Joe Biden
was the president. Six months ago, we had a brain
dead president and other people running the country, most of
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whom nobody knew. Six months ago, nobody was admitting in
the media or the Democrat Party that Joe Biden was
brain dead, even though they smothered him in his seat
in his sleep on a Sunday morning. And then Kamala Harrison,
a little power play, was pushed into being the nominee,
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and then everybody was angry because they said, you know,
we had to all get behind her.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But she's terrible. We didn't want to do that. It
is good because we're in this business.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We're constantly going back and listening to things that even
we doing what we do have forgotten. And by the way,
you've got real jobs. You got to show up at
the plant and keep up with the readings and the metrics.
You got to program computers and raise kids and run
small business and meet payroll and.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Bring your bill elating to be signed.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Because you've got to drop off a run in California
and get back to Maryland. I mean, we do this
all day, every day, and we still forget the craziness
that occurred not so very long ago. We lived through
this hell in Houston where I live. We're living through
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it with a Harris County judge who has been institutionalized.
She's completely nuts nuts. She's been institutionalized. In the middle
of her term. She came out as unstable as ever
and declared that it's a good thing that she's been institutionalized.
This is she's a model for other people. Be a
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model for other people in getting help. But we don't
need you to be running the county. Your staff's been indicted,
you've been institutionalized. The taxes are growing while the revenues
were already up and your nuts. So it's like it's
Groundhog Day all over again. And this is happening all
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over the country where Democrats have put people into office,
and New York City's about to do it right now
with Kami Mumdani. They're about to do it right now.
But back to the point I got off, So Nelson
Mandela International Day, I leave that aside. Do you remember
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that Joe Biden, the lies this guy told in broad
daylight and then Democrats never contradicted him. Joe Biden once
claimed that he was arrested trying to meet Nelson Mandela
in and listen to.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
This this day, thirty years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out
of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I had the great honor of meeting him.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I had the great honor of being arrested with our
UN ambassador on the streets of Suedo trying to get
to see him on Robin's Island when he came to
the United States, when he came to the White House,
to the Senate, I was chairman of the committee and
he walked in and most incredible thing I've ever.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Felt in my life.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He walked across in that private room with a big
table we have in the in the executive room, and
he walked over and I said, mister President leaning, I said, thank.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You, Jim.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Would you pull the Brian Williams lie about the RPGs.
One of the things Biden does when he's when he's
crafting a lie is that he tries to provide specific
detail to give it credibility. Brian Williams used to do that,
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but Biden has this odd quirk where he also knows
in the back of his mind as he's weaving a lie,
that we all know it's not true. So he has
this kind of tick where he will say, and this
is true. Are you you gotta believe me on this?
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Or I know you don't believe me on this, or
I'm not lying. Well, there's your tell. Everybody you've seen
you've seen rounders, there's your tail.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Pay the man his money.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
His tell is he says he's not lying, or he
says he's telling you the truth.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Truthful people good life.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Lesson Truthful people don't need to tell you, Hey, this time,
I'm telling the truth. You know, when a bad guy
is arrested and they've run some big fraud. When they
are cutting a deal with law enforcement, with the prosecution,
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they will agree to wear a wire, to agree to
bring down other people. And part of bringing down other
people is getting other people using the confidence they have
that other person has in them, and getting the other
person to hang themselves, usually with the wire.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And then you've got the audio file and all that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
But then often they're asked to go to court and testify,
and it's always a challenge. If you're the defense attorney
for the second guy that got hung up in this ring,
you say, Okay, they got my guy saying something to
this guy.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This guy says, my guy is a criminal.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But that guy's a criminal himself. You can't trust him.
He's not credible. Well, Joe Biden's not of them. By
the way, that I love Nelson Mandela. I think Nelson
Mandela associated with Castro Arafat Cadaffe. Nelson Mandela was not
a good guy. I know you've been told otherwise, but
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Nelson Mandela was not a good Houston. I was talking
earlier about Joe Biden lying in a chronic liar.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You know, Kamala Harris used to do this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Kamala Harris would claim you know, the being a freedom
fighter and all this. Barack Obama did this, and they
tell these stories of grandeur about their lives that are
not true. And I mentioned Brian Williams. This story turns
out to be a complete fabrication. But listen to all
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the details. This is twenty thirteen. Brian Williams then then
a big deal in media. He was an anchor on
a major network. And he's telling a complete lie. But
the more detailed he gives you, the more believable it sounds.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
We were going to drop some bridge portions across the
Euphrates so the third infantry could cross on them. Two
of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire, including
the one I was in, Noki RPG and AK forty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What altitude were hitting We.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Were only at one hundred feet doing one hundred forward
knots because we had these massive pieces of bridge beneath
us on slings. What happens, everybody realizes you've been hit.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We figure out how to land safely, and we did.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We landed very quickly and hard, and we put down
and we were stuck four birds in the middle of
the desert and we were north out ahead of the
other Americans.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh, four birds. You practically went to worry yourself, Brian,
and he's back. They always come back. They're always allowed
to slink back in. Oh, it's a unique day. We
have calls. We haven't asked for calls in quite some time.
We never get to every thing we want to, but
we have calls and we will go to them. Now, Mike,
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you are on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir,
Hello Michael Zara, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I was just sitting here thinking that if Joe Biden
didn't authorize those pardons for the use of the autopian,
which we know he didn't, it was safety assume did
he authorize Ketajie Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If he didn't, did he picked her? And if she's
really has any right to even be there? If you
didn't pick, if he didn't excuse.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Her, you know, you raise a bigger question in the main,
and that is, to what extent did the constitutional powers
of the presidency. What extent were the constitutional powers of
the presidency not exercise by the president in the manner
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in which we have grown a custom and I would
think legally require they'd be conducted that is you know,
you raise a very big question that I think has
to be raised, which is, to what extent is anything
Joe Biden actually did not legitimate because Joe Biden didn't
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do it. If we know he didn't sign some documents,
then how do we know he didn't sign no documents,
in which case none of the of any edicts that
bear his name are legitimate. And by the way, this
level of chaos and confusion and disorder and mayhem, this
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isn't politics, This isn't the ranker of Washington d C.
The Democrats did this to themselves. It should be expected.
You know, we don't like to see an inrun fall
apart because a lot of people get hurt, or World
Calm or Stanford Financial or Bernie Man. But the reality
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is it has to be done. This has to be
heavily investigated, and there has to be punishment. There has
to be the frustrations. And I think a lot of
people want to look the other way and hope it's
brushed under the It's swept under the rug because it
raises questions that are so large, has to be extraordinarily troubling,
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and that no one wants to grapple with and look,
we see this in households, we see it in school districts,
we see it in our own workplace. We've got an
issue that everyone sweeps under the rug because nobody wants
to confront it. This has to be confronted because if
it's not, it is now a precedent, and a precedent has,
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if not a legal bearing, certainly with the Supreme Court
it does. But a precedent has a sort of it
becomes habitual, it becomes normalized, and so the next time
it happens, we find that a president is simply autopenning everything.
And when that happens, we don't know that the president autopended.
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We know that if you write your signature in ink,
that you had to consent to what you were doing.
But when that can be done on your behalf by proxy,
we don't know that you approved of it, which means
you have now authorized or in this case, unauthorized counterfeits.
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And now you've got you have no rule of law,
you have no stability, you have no trust in government,
and government and economies run on trust. You know, Mike,
you raise a question that you and I could talk
for hours about. What else about this administration? Is about
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the past administration is illegitimate to the point that those
laws should not stand. And that goes for every law
that came out of Congress, that goes for every appointment
and everything they did, that goes for as you note,
the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean, there are a lot of reasons.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Katanji Brown Jackson shouldn't be on the Supreme Court. But
you raise a very legalistic and I think realistic, reasonable,
legitimate question is she legally serving on the United States
Supreme Court. I don't think this is gamesmanship. I don't
think this is playing with a question, and I certainly
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don't think it's a partisan a ploy. And by the way,
if the Republicans had any stones, they would go after this,
and would they would you know, stop and think about this.
The Democrats sat idly by while while Donald Trump's underwear
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drawer was dug through at mar A Lago by the Feds,
who had authority to shoot if any if confronted, while
the District Attorney Fat Fannie in uh Atlanta was prosecuting him,
while Jack Smith was probably prosecuting him on behalf of
the White House out of DC, while Big Tish, the
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fat Attorney General out of New York was prosecuting him
while committing mortgage fraud herself.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You had the uh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You had the the indictment, you had the what thirty
four felony conviction.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
The Democrats sat by. They didn't stop this. They could
have stopped this, they didn't stop this.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Ramon the King Alding and this other guy, Michael Barry.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
These are the kind of guys you like a smack
and ass. You are on the Michael Berry Show, Sir
Michael Barry.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
It's veteran Donald. I'm a been Ham radio operator for
forty seven years. Michael Garfield used to have at Ham
Radio show at night, just for an hour, pick a day,
probably a Friday, where you could ask who did you
talk to this week on Ham Radio and what was
the subject matter? It's everything everywhere around the world anytime
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it's on twenty four to seven. People operate from home.
And I couldn't even begin to tell you some of
the interesting little cards I got from people I've talked to.
If you wanted me to give you an example, I would,
but you know, people wouldn't believe it. But I have
the card in writing, and I have the proof right
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in my hand.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, go ahead, who you got.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Well, there was a time back there was a guy
in French Guyana and the only way they could communicate
with the rest of the world was through Ham radio
because there was nothing. There were no cell phones and
no internet, no nothing then and I talked to the
Ham radio operator that was from California in French Guyana.
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He volunteered to go there. There was no communications ever anywhere.
And I talked to them three months before they drank
the kool aid. And I got a card from them saying,
you know, send us a little money for the people's temple,
you know. And I said, well, they weren't allowed. You're
not allowed to advertise from money on shortwave Ham radio
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and there are people who monitor it. And so I
got a card from him. And then three months later,
of course my card was sent there. So my card
was there somewhere three months before they drank the kool aid.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
That Ham radio operator then, that Ham radio operator that
was from California was either I'm pretty sure he was
a pretty stable guy. So he didn't drink kool aid.
They just killed him.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, you know, you know, I've been fascinated by that
case because it's bigger than Jonestown. It's bigger than that church.
It's a question of how people take leave of their senses.
It's a question of how people can be brainwashed. It's
a question of how people because they want to believe something,
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they choose to even then they have every reason not to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
There's all It checks a lot of boxes of the
human condition. It's not such an outlier as we think.
It's just a fascinating case study because of the drinking
the kool aid. But one of the things that I
find fascinating that has emerged more of late, is is
that a number of people did not willingly drink the
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kool aid, which you know, sort of became you know,
common parlance for you know, for doing something stupid, and
and that not everyone went to the hereafter willingly.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And I think that story wasn't always told, and.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Partly because look, dictatorial preacher kills his membership and then
takes his own life is not nearly as interesting as
evangelical charismatic, not even charismatic preacher talks his people into
drinking kool aid and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's a better narrative.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's it's more freaky more interesting, and I think that's
why that narrative took off.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, and a lot of people were running for it.
A lot of people were trying to escape and get away,
but there was no place for them to go, so
they were chased down and shot. Now I want to
go a different way here.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, hold on, Donald, I'm gonna let you make your point,
but I want to ask you to do me a
favor for folks out there. Our chief engineer, he's now retired,
Bob's troupe at our flagship station, was a hand radio guy,
and I grew up around a lot of Ham radio guys.
I loved the CBE radio when I was a kid.
But explain to people how you get involved. Let's say
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somebody out there says, you know, I keep hearing this
Ham radio reference. It's kind of quirky and old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I want to do it. How would they get started?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
It's very old fashioned. As a matter of fact, there
was a time when I used to talk to people
on Ham radio. Well, when I was younger. I'm my
name is Donald, I'm the same age as the other Donald.
I'm seventy nine years old, and there were guys that
we talked on the radio and said, where'd you get
this call sign? He said, there were no call signs.
When I started on radio. There was there was no FCC,
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and so the guy just had a basic number like
w A two. However, there is a there is a
group called America Radio Really League. My voice is terrible.
I wish it was clear that American Radio Relay League
a r r L in Newington, Connecticut. They are the
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radio protectors. Just like the NR protects people for guns,
the n R the A double r L. A r
r L is the single one group who protects the
frequencies for the m radio people. You can go dot
org them and you'll it'll be so much stuff on
there you'll be swimming in it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So I just looked up while we were talking the
various classes of licensing. You can get technician class in
general class and amateur Extra class.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm sure, I'm assuming that's you.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I'm an advanced class. When you go to extra you
have to be able to do twenty words a minute
in morse code, and it's tricky. It keeps. It's like
it's like running. The people who run. If you can
run the five a mile, you know whatever, the five
minute mile. Then you would be an extra class radio
operator if you can do twenty words a minute in
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morse code. Now, I want to tell you something that
people who's who died in that submarine, ridiculous submarine and
they didn't know what was going on. If you look
at the older movies, the guys that were in submarines
and sunk into the Second World War could send morse
code with a wrench, any kind of a metal thing
and bang it on the side of the bang it
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on the other metal of the submarines. In morse code
you could send the more you can hear it through
the oceans the way the whales. The whales actually communicate
by little frequency noises through the through the water for miles.
So you know, Morse code is old fashioned, but it's
still very handy to know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Do you give out your I don't want to ask
for something you're not comfortable with and put you in
an odd situation, But do you give out your call
sign on the air?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I would if I was to tell you it's g
WV like George Washington's victory and there are only there
are only nine areas of America and a zero, so
there's ten areas. But it's one through nine and then zero,
and the number tells you where you got your license.
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So my number is on My number is two, so
that means I was in New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut area. If you're if you're a number six, all
all people with the number six and a radio license
are from California. Zero means you're from the central middle
of the country. Number four, that means you're from Florida
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in that area. And it's it's just unique. It's you know,
it's a very interesting process to them to learn, and
the conversations on there are group conversations and everybody's invited
to be on the radio late night radio, and what
they do is they generally have a single person who
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is called the net controller, just like you. You're the
net controller of course.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That Donald hold on right there, hold on right there.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't know how many other people are interested in this,
but I've heard so much about.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It, and I want to learn more. And you're a
good teacher, So hold on, professor, will be will be
more more?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
What a maroon an.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We had a conversation this morning on our Friday morning
show which the conversation turned to small town radio and
big big city radio and how radio stations own radio.
And because I have programmed stations and done a show
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and had some other life experiences, I was just sharing
sort of how the the radio business and really the
content general ration business has changed. And some of that
is dollars and cents, in fact, a big part of it,
but so is every other industry. But there are still
parts of content creation and connection and interaction and engagement
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that are not driven by any dollars and cents. And
we got a call related I was taught. I was
telling the story that anybody can create a podcast, anybody
can create a blog today's world, even if you just
go into a social media site or you create your
a website or any number of other things. It is
a golden era for content creation, which means it's a
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golden era for content consumption.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Some people will say there's too much content out there. Well,
that's true. There's a lot of content for things and
positions and whatever else, religions, whatever that you don't like.
But if you search out what you do like, there's
more content for you than ever before. Don't worry about
silencing someone else. Go get more of yours. You want
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to learn about the Bible, there are more podcasts that'll
you know the Bible in a year, the Bible in
two years, an in depth study of Kings, an in
depth study of.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Luke.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
There is so much out there for you that was
never available before. It had to be controlled by a
radio station, a newspaper publisher, a TV station, a book publisher,
and now it's all available. So Donald called to talk
about Ham radio after we went off the air, and
Ham radio is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I grew up out in the country and we had
a CB and I would get on a CB and
I could talk to the truckers as they drove We
lived right on the highway as they drove by, and
that was kind of the democratized, pluralized, popular populist way
of communication. Ham radio is fascinating to me. And since
we have a Ham radio operator on, if you're not
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interested in it, let me guarantee your grandfather was all right.
So Donald, go ahead, but I would like you to
explain to me. Let's say you turn on your Ham
radio for people who know nothing about it, talk to
us like we're six year olds. For people who know
nothing about it. Tell me how you begin to make
a connection with someone around the world when you turn
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that machine on.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Well, it's just like anything else. You could to pick
a band with different bands. There are seven or eight
different bandwidth that them are popular, and like eighty meters
is a very long frequency, low frequency, that's a very
good nighttime frequency which doesn't operate good during the day.
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And the higher frequencies go all the way up to
two meters and forty meters for forty four hundred and
forty maker hearts that's UHF and just like a walkie
talkies for the police and all. But there is a
section of that bandwidth which is operated by Ham radio operators.
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You can pick anything you want and you would go
ahead and scan into it or listen to it, and
if there's a conversation going on or no conversation going on,
you can announce your call letters and you would say
actually in Morse code, you would send Q Q Q
and Morse code means calling anybody an available, call anybody CQ,
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and then you would give your call letters and then
somebody would come back and say, okay, GWV, let's talk.
You know, that might be four or five people wanted
to get together, so you don't have to have a
central controller.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
All right, So let's say people respond in morse code
and you've you've sent out the message calms up.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They've said yes.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now, what would be a typical conversation? I know nothing
is typical, but what would be a tip conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (28:02):
The first thing is what what kind of radio do
you like anything? What kind of radio do you have?
How high is your antenna? How much power are you running?
Where's your location? Are you having some kind of you know,
you live on this side of a mountain in California,
or you could be in Alaska. There's an Alaska network
that's on day, seven days a week, which are all
people from Alaska who actually don't even have a cell
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phone coverage because they're way out there. And it's called
it it's called it Alaska Net and it's on four
four forty four, it's on it's on high frequency four
forty four dot three hundred four four four dot three
hundred and if you go to that frequency on FM,
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you'll hear that network every day, six.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Day to fight seven days.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So these are people that's fascinating. These are people who
have no other means of connectivity to communicate who this is.
That the one and only way they can do that.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Not exactly, they have other means, but in Alaska in
order to keep in touch with about twenty or thirty
forty people who are out there in the middle of nowhere,
and they just get together to let each other know
how they're doing, because you know, they check in with
each other. And what's really funny, there's like kind of
it's kind of like a joke, but it's not a joke.
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When they're talking and they'll say, well, today, I'm going
to dog it. Today, I'm going to dog it. Like,
what do you mean Now, I'd ask them, what do
you mean dog it? They say, well, I'm not going
to take the snowmobile out because it's too much snow
on the truck. Forget it. I can't even get it
out of the garagers twenty feet of snow piled in
front of the garage. So I'm going to take the
dogs slit. I'm going to dog it. I'm like, okay.
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The dogs never give up. They're always on, no batteries required,
and they never run out of fuel and you don't
have to recharge the dogs with anything but a little
bit of nothing, they'll just eat the snow.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
For an hour.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well, the fascinating part about that is you're getting a
little insight into people's world that it might be the
mundane pedestrian aspects of their life, but it's still important
things and interesting things. And you know, look, I'm not
a reality TV guy, but I think reality TV took
off because we want to know how other people live.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
We want to know the mundane things they do.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Behind closed doors, how they argue, how they get their
kids to do their homework, what programs they consume, what
their hobbies are. And in this case, you're getting a
really interesting insight into it that maybe you'd have to
read a Jack London book to get otherwise. But that's fascinating.
So how many days a week would you say, or
how many days a month would you say?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You get on the hand radio and for how long?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I'm sorry, I have to be laughing a little bit
before I talk here because my voice is so rough.
I turn it on when I when I get up
in the morning, I turn on the Alaska Network on
a radio that is horse quieted. It only only when
they're speaking does the radio make you hear it and
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then it goes quiet. You know, matter of fact that
I could go around and turn it on. Now I'm
allowed to transmit Ham radio over commercial radio, but you're
not allowed to come to transmit commercial radio over Ham radio.
And you say, well, who would know? How would they
figure that out? Well, there are people who know, and
they would figure it out.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That is fascinating. Donald, you are the call of the week.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
This this is uh, this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I am so glad you called. I find that so interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I love to find little niche communities and interesting people.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know, I'll bet you if you were to go out.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Into the Ham radio community and ask who has a
conviction for a violent crime, there ain't one that's the
guy that that you know, you go and ask listen
next door to you go and borrow the flour or
the sugar.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Those are the Those are the kind of people you
want to be around.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Everybody I've ever known who's a hand radio operator is
a solid citizen that you would want to live next
door to.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
That's for sure.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verry Show is on the air. It's Charlie from
BlackBerry Smoking. I can feel a good one coming on.
It's the Michael Berry Show. Oh yeah, yes it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Bring that down on me, Jim, you can keep it
real light. But because it is a Friday drive home.
But we were digging through our this Day in History
file today and this comes up as the Nelson Mandela
International Day. Okay, whatever one may think of Nelson Mandela,
(00:57):
but it got me to thinking and we were laughing
about this. Sunday will be six months since Joe Biden
was the president. Six months ago, we had a brain
dead president and other people running the country, most of
(01:17):
whom nobody knew. Six months ago, nobody was admitting in
the media or the Democrat Party that Joe Biden was
brain dead, even though they smothered him in his seat
in his sleep on a Sunday morning. And then Kamala Harrison,
a little power play, was pushed into being the nominee,
(01:41):
and then everybody was angry because they said, you know,
we had to all get behind her.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But she's terrible. We didn't want to do that. It
is good because we're in this business.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We're constantly going back and listening to things that even
we doing what we do have forgotten. And by the way,
you've got real jobs. You got to show up at
the plant and keep up with the readings and the metrics.
You got to program computers and raise kids and run
small business and meet payroll and.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Bring your bill elating to be signed.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Because you've got to drop off a run in California
and get back to Maryland. I mean, we do this
all day, every day, and we still forget the craziness
that occurred not so very long ago. We lived through
this hell in Houston where I live. We're living through
(02:39):
it with a Harris County judge who has been institutionalized.
She's completely nuts nuts. She's been institutionalized. In the middle
of her term. She came out as unstable as ever
and declared that it's a good thing that she's been institutionalized.
This is she's a model for other people. Be a
(03:02):
model for other people in getting help. But we don't
need you to be running the county. Your staff's been indicted,
you've been institutionalized. The taxes are growing while the revenues
were already up and your nuts. So it's like it's
Groundhog Day all over again. And this is happening all
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over the country where Democrats have put people into office,
and New York City's about to do it right now
with Kami Mumdani. They're about to do it right now.
But back to the point I got off, So Nelson
Mandela International Day, I leave that aside. Do you remember
(03:44):
that Joe Biden, the lies this guy told in broad
daylight and then Democrats never contradicted him. Joe Biden once
claimed that he was arrested trying to meet Nelson Mandela
in and listen to.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
This this day, thirty years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out
of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I had the great honor of meeting him.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I had the great honor of being arrested with our
UN ambassador on the streets of Suedo trying to get
to see him on Robin's Island when he came to
the United States, when he came to the White House,
to the Senate, I was chairman of the committee and
he walked in and most incredible thing I've ever.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Felt in my life.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He walked across in that private room with a big
table we have in the in the executive room, and
he walked over and I said, mister President leaning, I said, thank.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You, Jim.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Would you pull the Brian Williams lie about the RPGs.
One of the things Biden does when he's when he's
crafting a lie is that he tries to provide specific
detail to give it credibility. Brian Williams used to do that,
(05:05):
but Biden has this odd quirk where he also knows
in the back of his mind as he's weaving a lie,
that we all know it's not true. So he has
this kind of tick where he will say, and this
is true. Are you you gotta believe me on this?
(05:26):
Or I know you don't believe me on this, or
I'm not lying. Well, there's your tell. Everybody you've seen
you've seen rounders, there's your tail.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Pay the man his money.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
His tell is he says he's not lying, or he
says he's telling you the truth.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Truthful people good life.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Lesson Truthful people don't need to tell you, Hey, this time,
I'm telling the truth. You know, when a bad guy
is arrested and they've run some big fraud. When they
are cutting a deal with law enforcement, with the prosecution,
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they will agree to wear a wire, to agree to
bring down other people. And part of bringing down other
people is getting other people using the confidence they have
that other person has in them, and getting the other
person to hang themselves, usually with the wire.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And then you've got the audio file and all that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
But then often they're asked to go to court and testify,
and it's always a challenge. If you're the defense attorney
for the second guy that got hung up in this ring,
you say, Okay, they got my guy saying something to
this guy.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This guy says, my guy is a criminal.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But that guy's a criminal himself. You can't trust him.
He's not credible. Well, Joe Biden's not of them. By
the way, that I love Nelson Mandela. I think Nelson
Mandela associated with Castro Arafat Cadaffe. Nelson Mandela was not
a good guy. I know you've been told otherwise, but
(07:12):
Nelson Mandela was not a good Houston. I was talking
earlier about Joe Biden lying in a chronic liar.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You know, Kamala Harris used to do this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Kamala Harris would claim you know, the being a freedom
fighter and all this. Barack Obama did this, and they
tell these stories of grandeur about their lives that are
not true. And I mentioned Brian Williams. This story turns
out to be a complete fabrication. But listen to all
(07:48):
the details. This is twenty thirteen. Brian Williams then then
a big deal in media. He was an anchor on
a major network. And he's telling a complete lie. But
the more detailed he gives you, the more believable it sounds.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
We were going to drop some bridge portions across the
Euphrates so the third infantry could cross on them. Two
of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire, including
the one I was in, Noki RPG and AK forty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What altitude were hitting We.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Were only at one hundred feet doing one hundred forward
knots because we had these massive pieces of bridge beneath
us on slings. What happens, everybody realizes you've been hit.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We figure out how to land safely, and we did.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We landed very quickly and hard, and we put down
and we were stuck four birds in the middle of
the desert and we were north out ahead of the
other Americans.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh, four birds. You practically went to worry yourself, Brian,
and he's back. They always come back. They're always allowed
to slink back in. Oh, it's a unique day. We
have calls. We haven't asked for calls in quite some time.
We never get to every thing we want to, but
we have calls and we will go to them. Now, Mike,
(09:05):
you are on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir,
Hello Michael Zara, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I was just sitting here thinking that if Joe Biden
didn't authorize those pardons for the use of the autopian,
which we know he didn't, it was safety assume did
he authorize Ketajie Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If he didn't, did he picked her? And if she's
really has any right to even be there? If you
didn't pick, if he didn't excuse.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Her, you know, you raise a bigger question in the main,
and that is, to what extent did the constitutional powers
of the presidency. What extent were the constitutional powers of
the presidency not exercise by the president in the manner
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in which we have grown a custom and I would
think legally require they'd be conducted that is you know,
you raise a very big question that I think has
to be raised, which is, to what extent is anything
Joe Biden actually did not legitimate because Joe Biden didn't
(10:25):
do it. If we know he didn't sign some documents,
then how do we know he didn't sign no documents,
in which case none of the of any edicts that
bear his name are legitimate. And by the way, this
level of chaos and confusion and disorder and mayhem, this
(10:50):
isn't politics, This isn't the ranker of Washington d C.
The Democrats did this to themselves. It should be expected.
You know, we don't like to see an inrun fall
apart because a lot of people get hurt, or World
Calm or Stanford Financial or Bernie Man. But the reality
(11:11):
is it has to be done. This has to be
heavily investigated, and there has to be punishment. There has
to be the frustrations. And I think a lot of
people want to look the other way and hope it's
brushed under the It's swept under the rug because it
raises questions that are so large, has to be extraordinarily troubling,
(11:35):
and that no one wants to grapple with and look,
we see this in households, we see it in school districts,
we see it in our own workplace. We've got an
issue that everyone sweeps under the rug because nobody wants
to confront it. This has to be confronted because if
it's not, it is now a precedent, and a precedent has,
(11:59):
if not a legal bearing, certainly with the Supreme Court
it does. But a precedent has a sort of it
becomes habitual, it becomes normalized, and so the next time
it happens, we find that a president is simply autopenning everything.
And when that happens, we don't know that the president autopended.
(12:21):
We know that if you write your signature in ink,
that you had to consent to what you were doing.
But when that can be done on your behalf by proxy,
we don't know that you approved of it, which means
you have now authorized or in this case, unauthorized counterfeits.
(12:43):
And now you've got you have no rule of law,
you have no stability, you have no trust in government,
and government and economies run on trust. You know, Mike,
you raise a question that you and I could talk
for hours about. What else about this administration? Is about
(13:04):
the past administration is illegitimate to the point that those
laws should not stand. And that goes for every law
that came out of Congress, that goes for every appointment
and everything they did, that goes for as you note,
the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean, there are a lot of reasons.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Katanji Brown Jackson shouldn't be on the Supreme Court. But
you raise a very legalistic and I think realistic, reasonable,
legitimate question is she legally serving on the United States
Supreme Court. I don't think this is gamesmanship. I don't
think this is playing with a question, and I certainly
(13:45):
don't think it's a partisan a ploy. And by the way,
if the Republicans had any stones, they would go after this,
and would they would you know, stop and think about this.
The Democrats sat idly by while while Donald Trump's underwear
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drawer was dug through at mar A Lago by the Feds,
who had authority to shoot if any if confronted, while
the District Attorney Fat Fannie in uh Atlanta was prosecuting him,
while Jack Smith was probably prosecuting him on behalf of
the White House out of DC, while Big Tish, the
(14:32):
fat Attorney General out of New York was prosecuting him
while committing mortgage fraud herself.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You had the uh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You had the the indictment, you had the what thirty
four felony conviction.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
The Democrats sat by. They didn't stop this. They could
have stopped this, they didn't stop this.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Ramon the King Alding and this other guy, Michael Barry.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
These are the kind of guys you like a smack
and ass. You are on the Michael Berry Show, Sir
Michael Barry.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
It's veteran Donald. I'm a been Ham radio operator for
forty seven years. Michael Garfield used to have at Ham
Radio show at night, just for an hour, pick a day,
probably a Friday, where you could ask who did you
talk to this week on Ham Radio and what was
the subject matter? It's everything everywhere around the world anytime
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it's on twenty four to seven. People operate from home.
And I couldn't even begin to tell you some of
the interesting little cards I got from people I've talked to.
If you wanted me to give you an example, I would,
but you know, people wouldn't believe it. But I have
the card in writing, and I have the proof right
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in my hand.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, go ahead, who you got.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Well, there was a time back there was a guy
in French Guyana and the only way they could communicate
with the rest of the world was through Ham radio
because there was nothing. There were no cell phones and
no internet, no nothing then and I talked to the
Ham radio operator that was from California in French Guyana.
(16:20):
He volunteered to go there. There was no communications ever anywhere.
And I talked to them three months before they drank
the kool aid. And I got a card from them saying,
you know, send us a little money for the people's temple,
you know. And I said, well, they weren't allowed. You're
not allowed to advertise from money on shortwave Ham radio
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and there are people who monitor it. And so I
got a card from him. And then three months later,
of course my card was sent there. So my card
was there somewhere three months before they drank the kool aid.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
That Ham radio operator then, that Ham radio operator that
was from California was either I'm pretty sure he was
a pretty stable guy. So he didn't drink kool aid.
They just killed him.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, you know, you know, I've been fascinated by that
case because it's bigger than Jonestown. It's bigger than that church.
It's a question of how people take leave of their senses.
It's a question of how people can be brainwashed. It's
a question of how people because they want to believe something,
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they choose to even then they have every reason not to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
There's all It checks a lot of boxes of the
human condition. It's not such an outlier as we think.
It's just a fascinating case study because of the drinking
the kool aid. But one of the things that I
find fascinating that has emerged more of late, is is
that a number of people did not willingly drink the
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kool aid, which you know, sort of became you know,
common parlance for you know, for doing something stupid, and
and that not everyone went to the hereafter willingly.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And I think that story wasn't always told, and.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Partly because look, dictatorial preacher kills his membership and then
takes his own life is not nearly as interesting as
evangelical charismatic, not even charismatic preacher talks his people into
drinking kool aid and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's a better narrative.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's it's more freaky more interesting, and I think that's
why that narrative took off.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, and a lot of people were running for it.
A lot of people were trying to escape and get away,
but there was no place for them to go, so
they were chased down and shot. Now I want to
go a different way here.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, hold on, Donald, I'm gonna let you make your point,
but I want to ask you to do me a
favor for folks out there. Our chief engineer, he's now retired,
Bob's troupe at our flagship station, was a hand radio guy,
and I grew up around a lot of Ham radio guys.
I loved the CBE radio when I was a kid.
But explain to people how you get involved. Let's say
(19:16):
somebody out there says, you know, I keep hearing this
Ham radio reference. It's kind of quirky and old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I want to do it. How would they get started?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
It's very old fashioned. As a matter of fact, there
was a time when I used to talk to people
on Ham radio. Well, when I was younger. I'm my
name is Donald, I'm the same age as the other Donald.
I'm seventy nine years old, and there were guys that
we talked on the radio and said, where'd you get
this call sign? He said, there were no call signs.
When I started on radio. There was there was no FCC,
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and so the guy just had a basic number like
w A two. However, there is a there is a
group called America Radio Really League. My voice is terrible.
I wish it was clear that American Radio Relay League
a r r L in Newington, Connecticut. They are the
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radio protectors. Just like the NR protects people for guns,
the n R the A double r L. A r
r L is the single one group who protects the
frequencies for the m radio people. You can go dot
org them and you'll it'll be so much stuff on
there you'll be swimming in it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So I just looked up while we were talking the
various classes of licensing. You can get technician class in
general class and amateur Extra class.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm sure, I'm assuming that's you.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I'm an advanced class. When you go to extra you
have to be able to do twenty words a minute
in morse code, and it's tricky. It keeps. It's like
it's like running. The people who run. If you can
run the five a mile, you know whatever, the five
minute mile. Then you would be an extra class radio
operator if you can do twenty words a minute in
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morse code. Now, I want to tell you something that
people who's who died in that submarine, ridiculous submarine and
they didn't know what was going on. If you look
at the older movies, the guys that were in submarines
and sunk into the Second World War could send morse
code with a wrench, any kind of a metal thing
and bang it on the side of the bang it
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on the other metal of the submarines. In morse code
you could send the more you can hear it through
the oceans the way the whales. The whales actually communicate
by little frequency noises through the through the water for miles.
So you know, Morse code is old fashioned, but it's
still very handy to know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Do you give out your I don't want to ask
for something you're not comfortable with and put you in
an odd situation, But do you give out your call
sign on the air?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I would if I was to tell you it's g
WV like George Washington's victory and there are only there
are only nine areas of America and a zero, so
there's ten areas. But it's one through nine and then zero,
and the number tells you where you got your license.
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So my number is on My number is two, so
that means I was in New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut area. If you're if you're a number six, all
all people with the number six and a radio license
are from California. Zero means you're from the central middle
of the country. Number four, that means you're from Florida
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in that area. And it's it's just unique. It's you know,
it's a very interesting process to them to learn, and
the conversations on there are group conversations and everybody's invited
to be on the radio late night radio, and what
they do is they generally have a single person who
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is called the net controller, just like you. You're the
net controller of course.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That Donald hold on right there, hold on right there.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't know how many other people are interested in this,
but I've heard so much about.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It, and I want to learn more. And you're a
good teacher, So hold on, professor, will be will be
more more?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
What a maroon an.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We had a conversation this morning on our Friday morning
show which the conversation turned to small town radio and
big big city radio and how radio stations own radio.
And because I have programmed stations and done a show
(23:52):
and had some other life experiences, I was just sharing
sort of how the the radio business and really the
content general ration business has changed. And some of that
is dollars and cents, in fact, a big part of it,
but so is every other industry. But there are still
parts of content creation and connection and interaction and engagement
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that are not driven by any dollars and cents. And
we got a call related I was taught. I was
telling the story that anybody can create a podcast, anybody
can create a blog today's world, even if you just
go into a social media site or you create your
a website or any number of other things. It is
a golden era for content creation, which means it's a
(24:42):
golden era for content consumption.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Some people will say there's too much content out there. Well,
that's true. There's a lot of content for things and
positions and whatever else, religions, whatever that you don't like.
But if you search out what you do like, there's
more content for you than ever before. Don't worry about
silencing someone else. Go get more of yours. You want
(25:07):
to learn about the Bible, there are more podcasts that'll
you know the Bible in a year, the Bible in
two years, an in depth study of Kings, an in
depth study of.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Luke.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
There is so much out there for you that was
never available before. It had to be controlled by a
radio station, a newspaper publisher, a TV station, a book publisher,
and now it's all available. So Donald called to talk
about Ham radio after we went off the air, and
Ham radio is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I grew up out in the country and we had
a CB and I would get on a CB and
I could talk to the truckers as they drove We
lived right on the highway as they drove by, and
that was kind of the democratized, pluralized, popular populist way
of communication. Ham radio is fascinating to me. And since
we have a Ham radio operator on, if you're not
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interested in it, let me guarantee your grandfather was all right.
So Donald, go ahead, but I would like you to
explain to me. Let's say you turn on your Ham
radio for people who know nothing about it, talk to
us like we're six year olds. For people who know
nothing about it. Tell me how you begin to make
a connection with someone around the world when you turn
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that machine on.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Well, it's just like anything else. You could to pick
a band with different bands. There are seven or eight
different bandwidth that them are popular, and like eighty meters
is a very long frequency, low frequency, that's a very
good nighttime frequency which doesn't operate good during the day.
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And the higher frequencies go all the way up to
two meters and forty meters for forty four hundred and
forty maker hearts that's UHF and just like a walkie
talkies for the police and all. But there is a
section of that bandwidth which is operated by Ham radio operators.
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You can pick anything you want and you would go
ahead and scan into it or listen to it, and
if there's a conversation going on or no conversation going on,
you can announce your call letters and you would say
actually in Morse code, you would send Q Q Q
and Morse code means calling anybody an available, call anybody CQ,
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and then you would give your call letters and then
somebody would come back and say, okay, GWV, let's talk.
You know, that might be four or five people wanted
to get together, so you don't have to have a
central controller.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
All right, So let's say people respond in morse code
and you've you've sent out the message calms up.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They've said yes.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now, what would be a typical conversation? I know nothing
is typical, but what would be a tip conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (28:02):
The first thing is what what kind of radio do
you like anything? What kind of radio do you have?
How high is your antenna? How much power are you running?
Where's your location? Are you having some kind of you know,
you live on this side of a mountain in California,
or you could be in Alaska. There's an Alaska network
that's on day, seven days a week, which are all
people from Alaska who actually don't even have a cell
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phone coverage because they're way out there. And it's called
it it's called it Alaska Net and it's on four
four forty four, it's on it's on high frequency four
forty four dot three hundred four four four dot three
hundred and if you go to that frequency on FM,
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you'll hear that network every day, six.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Day to fight seven days.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So these are people that's fascinating. These are people who
have no other means of connectivity to communicate who this is.
That the one and only way they can do that.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Not exactly, they have other means, but in Alaska in
order to keep in touch with about twenty or thirty
forty people who are out there in the middle of nowhere,
and they just get together to let each other know
how they're doing, because you know, they check in with
each other. And what's really funny, there's like kind of
it's kind of like a joke, but it's not a joke.
(29:24):
When they're talking and they'll say, well, today, I'm going
to dog it. Today, I'm going to dog it. Like,
what do you mean Now, I'd ask them, what do
you mean dog it? They say, well, I'm not going
to take the snowmobile out because it's too much snow
on the truck. Forget it. I can't even get it
out of the garagers twenty feet of snow piled in
front of the garage. So I'm going to take the
dogs slit. I'm going to dog it. I'm like, okay.
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The dogs never give up. They're always on, no batteries required,
and they never run out of fuel and you don't
have to recharge the dogs with anything but a little
bit of nothing, they'll just eat the snow.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
For an hour.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well, the fascinating part about that is you're getting a
little insight into people's world that it might be the
mundane pedestrian aspects of their life, but it's still important
things and interesting things. And you know, look, I'm not
a reality TV guy, but I think reality TV took
off because we want to know how other people live.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
We want to know the mundane things they do.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Behind closed doors, how they argue, how they get their
kids to do their homework, what programs they consume, what
their hobbies are. And in this case, you're getting a
really interesting insight into it that maybe you'd have to
read a Jack London book to get otherwise. But that's fascinating.
So how many days a week would you say, or
how many days a month would you say?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You get on the hand radio and for how long?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I'm sorry, I have to be laughing a little bit
before I talk here because my voice is so rough.
I turn it on when I when I get up
in the morning, I turn on the Alaska Network on
a radio that is horse quieted. It only only when
they're speaking does the radio make you hear it and
(31:05):
then it goes quiet. You know, matter of fact that
I could go around and turn it on. Now I'm
allowed to transmit Ham radio over commercial radio, but you're
not allowed to come to transmit commercial radio over Ham radio.
And you say, well, who would know? How would they
figure that out? Well, there are people who know, and
they would figure it out.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That is fascinating. Donald, you are the call of the week.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
This this is uh, this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I am so glad you called. I find that so interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I love to find little niche communities and interesting people.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know, I'll bet you if you were to go out.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Into the Ham radio community and ask who has a
conviction for a violent crime, there ain't one that's the
guy that that you know, you go and ask listen
next door to you go and borrow the flour or
the sugar.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Those are the Those are the kind of people you
want to be around.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Everybody I've ever known who's a hand radio operator is
a solid citizen that you would want to live next
door to.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
That's for sure.
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