PM Show Hr 1 | Paul Harvey's Tribute to First Responders

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Strategies viving and thriving in this way. The first one
is the serenity prayer. Understand that you cannot change broken people.
This was a lesson that took me a good part

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of my life.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
To accept.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Because I think I'm superman. I can fix any problem.
I can solve anything. People come to me with all
sorts of problems and I solve them all day. It's
very rewarding. You get a god complex. Look at me,
I can do this, And I realized that's a drug
I feed off of and I've had to learn it'll

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also take you down. But I also realized over a
period of time that you cannot change people from their core.
It's a fool's errand but more than that, it's diving

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into the water to save someone that's going to drown
you too. You can throw them a lifeline and if
they kick it back, you can recognize that's a decision
they made. They have agency, they have authority over their

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decision making, whatever that may be, and at some point
you have to live with that. It's hard because we
want to fix people, we want to change people, and
that is one of the core problems with human relations.
Desire to change other people. And in many cases, the

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desire to change other people is really the desire to
control other people. And that gets to our basic animal
instinct of control and dominance. It's natural throughout the animal kingdom.
That's what the hierarchy of species is all about. The

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predator prey. The desire to change someone is the desire
to control someone. But here's the part that's important. You
got to figure out which fights are worth fighting. You
got to figure out which behaviors are worth defending. Is

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it worth it if you think that people ought to
be allowed to cut? Is it worth to go into
a children's school dropping f bombs? I hope you wouldn't
do that, even if you don't think there's anything wrong
with it's just another word. You're picking a fight. It
really has no benefit to you to win. And I
see this all the time. You're picking a fight over

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a principle. It's not even really a deep principle. You
didn't change anybody's mind. You just showed that you were
willing to thwart the rule. What did you gain? No
one was inspired by you. Whatever their level of respect
for you was, they have less of it now than
they did before, So you have to decide what do

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I want to offer my opinion on, what do I
want to say publicly?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Who do I.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Want to be that I think it's very important people
understand that. That me showing that, expressing that. I think
a lot of people get themselves in trouble on social
media by saying things for shock value because they're kind
of curious if it will.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Cause them a and by the time it does cause
them a problem, it's too late. Well that was dumb.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
How many times do we do that, we provoke something
just to see what will happen? First time, Mom told
you don't don't touch the flame. Oh I got to
touch slave now?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh damn?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
And then what do they say, idiot? We told you,
I know. But this will be Mom, This will be
a lifelong problem for me. I will be warned not
to touch the flame, and I will touch the flame.
But here's the part that's very important, and that is
understanding that we are complicit, which means involved in allowing

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this to happen. And the reason is for all our
tough talk about how we won't bid to me, we
also won't lift a finger to help another person. I
watched this all the time. Let me tell you how
this plays out. There's a group of guys got their lunchbox.

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Their wives made them send them to work. They work
for a big company, but they're out at the job site.
Somebody makes a comment, somebody adds to the comment. It's
like telephone game. It starts going. It's all guys and
they're going around, and then finally somebody says something that
someone else views as offensive and they run tell. Because

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that's what people do. They run tell, And then the
question becomes what do you do about it? The question
becomes do you say that man is not at fault
unless everyone is fired, he shouldn't be fired. Most people

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don't do that. Most people hide, And here's how they justified.
I mean, I'm all for telling Joe's but man, he
went too far? Did he Have you never told that
same joke? Well, yeah, I mean yeah, I guess I have.
So why didn't you say that that's a joke. Everybody

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in the group is told, Well, he was an idiot
for telling it at the time.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You could have told him at the time, but you didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's the real that's the real interesting study of how
many people will judge another person for getting a DWI
when but for pure luck, they don't have one, they
could have had twenty five. Most people, I'll bet you

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ninety of people who drink at all. If you don't drink,
you're probably not going to run the riskiness. But for
people who drink at all, I think over ninety percent
of people if they're honest, especially as low as the
number has come now, I think it's point oh eight.
Over ninety percent of people would have blown hot. And

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always you have no idea, get yourself a breathalyzer. You'd
be shocked, tough as but you don't feel any compassion
for that person at that moment.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, we've been talking about fire.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And indeed the incompetence of Los Angeles government, in California government,
the snail darter and the reservoirs that weren't full, and
the hydrants that didn't have any water, and now the
zoning restrictions and the development and all of this. We'veen
talking about the failures of so many people and the

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criminal actions by people who've started these fires, and the
idiots who want to blame it on climate change, a
global warming, when much of it is man made. But
I want to make sure that in so doing, we
don't miss out on something else that is very important,
and that is the good people, very good people who

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jumped in there to fight the fires, many of them citizens,
many of them homeowners themselves, and the people who do
it for a living, which makes it no less noble.
There are people from my state and from many states.
Texas sent a lot of folks to help fight those fires.
I have a nephew who's also named Michael Berry, who's

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a firefighter, and I'm incredibly proud of him. It's what
he's wanted to do since he was a kid. Is
fight fires, be a fireman. It's a culture. It's a calling,
it really is. It is a ministry. It is a calling.
It is a service. A listener named Martha sent me

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an email a few days ago and asked if I
had ever heard Paul Harvey's tribute to Fireman.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I had, but she wouldn't know this.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to studying radio grades,
and Paul Harvey is a radio great. Now that doesn't
mean we're not going to play it, Ramon. I'm just
answering her question. Yes, of course I had heard of
Paul Harvey. No, I don't think that makes me a
big shot? Can I tell my story? I love Paul Harvey.

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I love everything about it. I actually thought, and I'm
in the minority in this. I actually thought that when
his son took over for him when he died, and
his son did a pretty good job at it.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
He writes, like.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Jimmy Mike Rowe, Mike Row's whole deal is patterned on
Paul Harvey. Okay, yeah, Ramon has it and he wants
me to play it and he wants me to stop talking.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
So here it is.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's it's Paul Harvey's rest of the story on the fireman.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Nobody knows why fireman or fireman. Not even they can
tell you why, but.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
It is signed. Somebody try.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Firefighting is the most risky of all good ended jobs,
yet also the one where most workers are most likely
to punch you in the early It's hard enough to
believe that it's impossible to explain it.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Fire and ice.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Are uncomfortable separately or together. Wives hate the hours, kids
love the noise, fire and ice. Any day at the
firehouse to beil from Hell puts their stature on the
horn with a them a kinder box addressed into bunker pens, rubber,
turnout coat, grab the mask and go.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Minutes later you're on.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Site as others run out, you go in. If you
need all you can carry, the four pound acts of
six foot poop, the halligan pry bar, the ceiling concealing
the smoldering has to come down, and it's one of
those stubborn tin ones. In the scary dark, with heat
eating your ears, you're gouging out and carrying loose and
pulling apart, dumping hair and tasting black. Your windpipe is

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closing and you've lost.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Track of which way is out. Is it really worth it?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
They budgeted and cut your ladder company from six men
to five, so now everything you do is sixteen point
sixty seven percent more difficult and more dangers. Your air
is low inside your mask, you're throwing up. There's a
searing pember down your neck, touring gloves exposed, a smashed hand.
So you emerge from the holocaust hugging with your elbows.

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Somebody sings kitten. If you had minutes of exhilaration un
the bouncing rear, amount of the screening one hundred foot
sea grave, hours of using all you've learned and learning more.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Now you're back at the station house.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And you've unstuffed your nostrils with soapy fingers. You can
almost breathe again. Next time the tedious hours as you
and Willow getg up on grimy tools, they clean up
crew at the firehouses. You when windows need washing and
toilets need cleaning, and floors need mopping, and deads need making,
you do it. Fire and ice they both go with

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the job. Then there's that night another engine company gets
there first. You see this web. Hear rookie hot dogging ahead.
His academy boots are still shining. You're losing inside the
crackling dart. You forget about him until your helmet warning
bell says, get out. The battalion chief is calling you off.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You get out. The other guy didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
He'd heard a scream from the bottom of burning basement
stairs and he'd headed down there. Went on the bubbling
tar paper roof the three ton compressor broke through that day.
We lost two orious firemen. Cry, but only briefly, because
now comes the inevitable and ever more paperwork, just in

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case Osha complains or somebody sees is.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
It worth it?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Your b crew pumper swapped his day shift so some
family guy could be home for his kid's birthday, and
then out down toward a falso arm. Ever, body gets
blindsided by a hot rod driven by a drunk fire
and ice.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
The intercom marks again, this time at the.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Warehouse and that multiple blaze probably torched on side. Engine
man drake with icicles dagging a three quarter preconnect pros
hose are waiting for your big line. Latterman can't make
the building without you, search, rescue, ventilate. Eventually it's over
and out. He smokes margitant sleepers and brung out of

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this one. You won behind the graffiti walls. You saved
what you could, but the raging plays that wanted to
consume adjacent buildings did not, And it did not because
you were there.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Stag get to buy a house before clean up.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You and the guys should have spelled tired but stimulated,
drinking coffee, laughing, feeling good about one another. Nobody outside
your world.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Can ever know this feeling.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
In any other uniform, you get streets named after you
for killing people. In this one, you risk your life
to save people until one day you run out of
chances and in one final tire.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Either you buy it or you don't.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
If you don't, it's only eventually they brushed off with
the punity pension. And yet there is no third way
that you've ever leave this job. And you're dogging even
God knows why. You're out of the shower. Now most
of the grime and some of the centenceism are down
the drain. When you hear a strangely come in your
voice saying it is worth it, It is worth it.

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And you're hearing this voice, and there's nobody there but you.
It's a quiet voice from nowhere saying, for salvage and
things and people.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
From planes, I have to rely on your hands.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
And you look around still nobody. But when you get
over your incredula be you feel better. Suddenly, Today's crew
cook in the kitchen, hollers chow. It's trying to eat
snows by gross beef today.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
That'll be good. You'll eat fast. You'll want to eat
fast for any next salon. You'll want to be ready.
Paul Harvey.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Good, Then, kiss of the World as we know it
to Michael buries you the world.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Just and we just played Paul Harvey's tribute to fireman,
and I will tell you this. I could play Paul
Harvey for you all day long, because there's two types
of people. The people who've never heard Paul Harvey and
they're going to go, Wow, that's interesting. And then there's
the people who did hear Paul Harvey and listen to
him every morning, and they miss him, just as we

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do with Rush Limbaugh. We honor and pay tribute to
those who came before us, not just because we make
a living doing what they did, but because they are icons.
They're part of our lives, they're part of our histories.
I would like to play a rest of the story

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from Paul Harvey. We pay tribute to Paul Harvey. We
haven't done it in a while a fair amount, because
he's part of the reason we get to do what
we do, and we think it's important to do that,
but also because we find it very entertaining, and we
think you will too. I've said all along, I don't
believe a quote unquote talk show has to only be

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the host talking and giving his opinions the entire time,
or interviewing guests the entire time. What I've always wanted
to be is kind of the conductor of an orchestra
of awesome things happening on the radio. So if it's
a guest who has something interesting to say, even if

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I already know a fair amount about that subject, but
they can offer a perspective, then we're going to do that.
But that's also why we spend a lot of time
consuming other content and sharing with you things that were
said by other people in their own voice, because I
think I think that's how you pay tribute. I think

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that's how you honor those people. I really do so.
In the course of an average show, especially the show,
we will play five to ten audio clips, sometimes more
than that.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
And some people think, are you being lazy?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You don't know me? Ask my family, ask my friends.
I can talk all day, every day, and I love
to do it, but I feel it's a little dishonest
when I'm listening to someone's opinion on something and I go,
that's a very interesting point, and then I steal it
as my own. A lot of people in media do that.
I think it's a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I really do. I think it's a bad thing to do.
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It is a plagiarism at a minimum, and I think
it's deceitful. I think it's a sign, because look, everything
is derivative of something else. None of us landed here
the smartest person in the history of the world, and
none of us arrived at our own opinions completely on

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our own. No man is an island Milton sort of stuff.
We had teachers, parents, coaches, writers, novelists, movie characters, and
from those things we developed our opinions. And and many times,
you know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I go back and listen to a lot of old
audio of Rush, of Paul Harvey.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And many as the time I will hear them say
something that I almost think to myself, you ripped me off,
Paul Harvey, I said that, Or you ripped me off Rush,
I said that, And then I realized, no, I ripped
him off. Didn't even realize it. How many times? How

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many times have you said something that when you said it,
you heard.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Your mom or your dad, or your grandma or your grandpa.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Or your coach or your teacher or your first boss,
you heard their voice in you realize that stuck. I
didn't intentionally mimick that person, It just kind of stuck.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Isn't that weird? How that happens?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But that's how we all ended up here. This isn't
a you didn't build that moment. This is a I'm
giving credit to the people who are really good at
what they do that helped form what we do. Plus
I hope I'm sharing something with you that you go, well,
this is a this is a great way to get
home today, Michael. You don't have to talk politics all
day every day now. The rest of the story.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Mr Was a twenty one year young inmate at San Quentin,
charging restlessly in his cart after lights out. He'd set
foot on the road to prison years before. It had
started with petty theft and bad checks and then stolen cars.
Finally got himself drunk and tried to knock over the
roadhouse near Bakersfield, and that's what brought him as stretch

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and a joint. By now, there had been several months
long enough to see it all. He'd seen one con
kill another over a simple insult, yet another inmate purposedly
scalded to death in the prison laundry.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
And the more such he saw, the more.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
He wondered whether he'd ever see the other side of
those tall gray walls again. So Mr was lying awake
that night, tossing and turning, trying to fight off every
thought but the plane at hand.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Because although in.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Thirteen years there had not been an escape from San Quin,
come sent up em I would have his chance to
do just that. You see in the prison furniture factory,
inmate craftsmen had been making a desk for a judge's
chamber in San Francisco, an enormous desk weighed about one thousand,
five hundred pounds. Next morning it was due to be

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picked up and trucked down. But what prison authorities did
not know was there were roomen that urge desk for
two full grown men to hide. One of the cons
already he booked for passage was Jim Hendrix, known to
his buddies as Rabbit, and the other that's.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right, the other was Mr.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Rabbit Liked Mr did his best to talk the younger
Cohn out of escaping. The elder, seventy two five to
life sentences back to back, felt that he had nothing
to lose, but Mr. Well, he'd be out in a
couple of years. The risk wasn't worth it. But MR's
mind was made up. He'd been over and over the plan.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
In his mind. He was sure there was no way.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
It could fail, and it did not.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
The judge's desk was picked up on time, the presiding
gate opened wide for the delivery truck to get away
car was waiting near Oakland to Bay Bridge, and so
Rabbit became the first con in thirteen years to break
out a San Quentin and m are. He stayed behind

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funny thing. He was all set to go. Look he
poured to his freedom, but at the last moment he
got cold feet and turned it down. Weeks later, a
highway patrolman stopped Rebbit for a minor traffic violation. Grabbit panic,
He shot the officer dead, and not long after that
they caught Rebbit and sent him to the vast chamber.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Now that Mr.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Escaped with Rebbit, he'd probably have been there when his
buddy pulled the trigger, and that would have made him
an accessory. But instead, when Revit ran, Mr stayed and
served his time to a parole two years later, and
he went straight. It would have been so easy to
sneak out in the judge's desk.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
But when Mr came to the crossroads, he chose the
right road.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
He lived to build a career which has thrilled the
country music covers ever since, for more than forty years,
you have been humming the tune of Mr Merle Ronald Haggard.
That's right, Merle Haggard, only now you know them Mourish,

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love the story they are jobs.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Don't use that tone to me. Not a joke.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone. That means you know everything because
you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
That is not a joke. That is a natural fact.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
The Michael By Show, we heard The Michael Berry Show
love Paul Harvey, and we have decided to play some
more Paul Harvey for you today, mostly because we also
want to listen to it. The craft of storytelling, which
I believe to be a very important thing. Many of

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you have heard me say this again and again and again.
Teach your children to tell stories.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And people. We emi with how I do that?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Okay, If I told you raise your child to be
a self respecting adult, you got to figure it out.
But once it's planted in your mind how important this
is to do, then you will start thinking about ways
to do it. What I do with my kids is

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start with tell me about your day, and I know
what you're gonna say, Michael, when I asked my kids
tell me about that?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It is fine? What happened nothing? What'd you do? Not much?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
You've got to get better at asking your questions, and
you've got to tell them, hey, look, I'm gonna find
out what happened today, And then the process, you're gonna
get better at answering questions. Because you're gonna have to
answer questions from your spouse, from your kids, Why Daddy,
why mama?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Why?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
You're gonna have to answer questions during an interview, You're
gonna have to answer questions your entire life, from your boss.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
You might as well learn to get good at it.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So let's take a new approach, because I'm going to
sit here and ask these questions a one hundred different ways.
And part of me being a parent is teaching you
to respond to questions. Now, if you can do it
in such a way that you tell a story, oh
the meek shall inherit the earth. But I think the storytellers,
I think they just grab hold of it and take it.

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A good salesman is always a good storyteller. A good
pastor is always a good storyteller. A good coach, storyteller.
When you wooed your girlfriend to be your wife, you
told a story. You don't realize that you might not
have call to the story, but that's what you were doing.

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I study Paul Harvey. I want you to listen, to enjoy,
but I also want you to think about how he
tells a story.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
How have previous.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Nations gone from being strong, prosperous nations to a rumbling
shell of their former selves. Here is Paul Harvey giving
a history lesson in a piece called Freedom to Chains.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
This is as good. Mark this one.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Go look it up on YouTube or rumble or wherever
you get your content.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And share it because this one, this is good right
here now.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Then what makes a nation strong? Taxes? There's nothing new
about those either.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
The first income tax was paid by Abraham, was written
on a rock by the hand of Divinity and handed
to Moses at the top of Mount Signia. And you
might want to remember this. It was at the flat
rate of ten percent. It promised the wrath of God
on anybody who tampered with or violated that law. Christ
was born in Bethlehem because Joseph was on his way
to pay his taxes. Joseph was a relatively well to

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do landowner of the house and lineage of David. Yet
the taxes exacted by Caesar Augustus were so exorbitant that
he didn't have enough money left over to employ a
trusted messenger for the mission. So though his wife was
great with child, he made the journey himself. And Christ
was born in Bethlehem because Joseph was on his way
to pay his taxes.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And Christ was.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Born in a manger because there was a housing shortage
when he got there.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Our problems are not new.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
At Runnymead, the Magna Carter was handed to King John
on the end of a sword, denying to royalty the
right of unlimited taxation. Yet you know it was for us,
the American people, to become the first and recorded history
ever voluntarily to surrender our rights to private property.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yes, we did with.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
An innocent sounding constitutional amendment, the sixteenth, which says that
Congress will have the power to lay and collect taxes
on incomes from whatever source derived. And we forgot to
put any limit on the extent to which we could
tax ourselves. Conceivably, we could be taxed out of all
private property. We could be taxed up ninety percent, but
one hundred percent. We could awaken one morning and find

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that the government owns the farm, and the house and
the car, and has a mortgage on the church. Legally, historically,
whenever any nation has taxed its people more than twenty
five percent of their national income, the initiative was destroyed
and that nation was headed for economic eclipse. Presently, the
American people are being texted thirty three percent of their

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total income. History says, We'll roll forward on momentum for
a little while, but we'd better get some more gas
in the tank pretty quick. You see, ours is not
the first by George good government.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
To arise on the world stage.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
There have been several Rome, Spain, and Greece and China,
and each enjoyed about one hundred and fifty years at
its zenith, that's just about our time in the New World,
and then each decayed away. Not one of them was
ever destroyed by anybody else's marching legions. Each wrought it

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away morally, socially, culturally, economically simultaneously.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know, one of the most cruel paradoxes of history
is this.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Because each was a good government, it bore bountiful fruit,
and when it bore bountiful fruit, the people got fat.
And when they got fat, they got lazy. When they
got lazy, they began to want to absolve themselves of
personal responsibility and turn over the government to do for
them things which traditionally they had been doing for themselves.

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At first, there appears to be nothing wrong asking government
to perform some extra service for you. But if you
ask government for extra services, government, in order to perform
its increasing function, has.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
To get bigger.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Right, And as government gets bigger, in order to support
its increasing size, it has to what tax the individual
more so the individual gets littler, and to collect the
increased taxes requires more tax collectors.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
So the government gets bigger.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
In order to pay the additional tax collectors, it has
to tax the individual more. So the government gets bigger,
and the individual gets littler. And the government gets bigger,
the individual gets littler. Until the government is all powerful
the vidual that is hardly anything at all.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
The government is all powerful, the people are cattle.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Some believe that the need is for a vigorous strong
man to arise on the scene to regulate and regiment
the affairs of men. Yet history tells us there have
been several such. Once upon a time there was a
nation great and powerful and good.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
She was suffering from.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
The aftermath of war, from a depression, And then came
upon the scene of leader and idealist, self confident, intolerant
of criticism. Wisely, he limited his early activities to combating
the financial depression. Nobody could argue with that. But in
a while he began to regulate business and establish new
rules to govern commerce and finance, some of them in

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diametrical disagreement with the God made laws of supply and demand.
But anybody who disagreed with those new rules was promptly fired.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
The new leader saw.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
That under the old system of free enterprise, landlords prospered,
so he levied new taxes to take away their profits
and destroy what he called the monopoly of capital. To
police laborers, he controlled prices. To win the favor of
the farmers, he gave him loans and subsidies.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
The national death mounted alarmingly.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
Whenever anybody tried to tell him the government's even as
people can go broke when they spend beyond their incomes,
he said, they just didn't understand deficit finance. What do
you say, did he build on rock or on sand?
I say on sand. For you see, this was the

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story of Emperor t Su tung Po, who led China
to its doom more than a thousand years ago.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I am satisfied with all my heart

Speaker 6 (32:49):
That if Uncle Sam ever does get whipped here too,
it will have been an inside child.