The ‘Sunday Ticket’ Scandal, 'Lego Larceny' & the Return of Flip Phones

ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the class-action lawsuit filed against the NFL over claims that the NFL’s Sunday Ticket package, is a “years-long monopoly, price-fixing scheme” AND the rise in retail theft in California targeting Lego store owners…PLUS – Another example of “what’s old is new” with a resurgence in Flip phone sales - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
KFI AM six forty, it's Laterwith mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app. You said,what's that football season? No, it's
just about getting ready to wind upfor NFL football season. But there's plenty

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which is happening off the field,and it's actually connected to Los Angeles.
You may not have known, butNFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones,
the owner of the Dallas Cowboys,two of the biggest names in professional sports
when you drill down on who arethe power brokers when it comes to professional
sports. They were both here inLA on Monday, and they were testifying

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in a case having to do withNFL Sunday ticket package. And there is
a question of whether the NFL waspricing NFL Sunday ticket where you could watch
any game that you wanted outside ofyour home team anywhere on all Sundays,
whether that was intentionally priced so highto discourage people from buying it in order

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to protect the televised games which youwould find on CBS and Fox. It's
a little convoluted. Let me seeif I can explain it a little better.
We need to turn on your TVor if you stream it. If
you stream CBS or Fox, youget the NFC and the AFC Game of
the Week. Those are free.But if you want to see the other

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games which are not on CBS orFox what used to be on direct TV,
the NFL Sunday ticket was moved toYouTube slash Google. YouTube paid two
point five billion dollars for the rightseach year for the next six years,
totally some about fourteen billion that theypaid, and they paid that money up

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front. That's key. Listen tothis and I'll talk to you on the
other side. This is a casethat goes back to twenty fifteen. It
was filed by a San Francisco pubknown as The Mucky Duck, and it
challenges the way fundamentally. At itscore, it challenges the way the NFL
sells the Sunday ticket package, theout of market way to know if you're

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a Packers fan in Pittsburgh, youcan watch those games, and they market
it like that. The commercials playedthat idea that if I'm a displaced fan
of some team and I'm in adifferent market, I can watch the games
that way. So the fundamental questionis, this is the NFL forcing the
Sunday ticket provider previously DirecTV now YouTubeTV to overcharge in order to ensure that

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a certain number of people won't getit and that they'll watch the CBS and
Fox games made available to them intheir local markets. It's a premium product
and this and there's plenty of evidencethat's come in already that the NFL doesn't
want it to be too cheap,it doesn't want it to be something that
has a huge subscriber base. Andthe argument is it's trying to protect CBS

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and Fox. That's the core ofthe case. I don't think that's the
case though. Here's why YouTube paidfor these rights upfront. They paid fourteen
billion, which is averaging about twopoint five billion per year over the life
of the package. What usually happensis they pay that money up front and

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then YouTube gets to set the pricepoint. Why because they have to make
their money back. I mean,if you pay fourteen billion for something,
you got to generate revenue on it. And not only that, you're not
trying to break even, you're tryingto turn a profit. And here's something
else, when it's a traditional broadcastnetwork, you can have commercials traditional commercials

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and companies will pay for that.When you're streaming, it's a different ad
structure and you don't have the wayof charging for the commercials in the same
way that you do traditional TV.So YouTube has to get their fourteen billion
dollars back. How do they dothat? They have to charge you and
me through the nose, which ispresently four hundred and forty nine dollars per

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year to watch the other games aroundthe country which you are not being televised
on CBS or Fox. Some areregional and some are the national game that
everyone gets to see. But thereare only may be two or three games
that you can see on free TV, as they say, traditional broadcast television.

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The rest you have to check outon NFL Sunday Ticket to be able
to watch it at home. That'sfourteen billion dollars the only and for what
we know, YouTube has taken abath so far. The NFL honestly probably
does not care. And I wouldbe willing to bet dollars to donuts that
when Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones whenthey testified here in Los Angeles about whether

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there was some sort of price fixinggoing on for whoever's benefit. I'm quite
sure they probably testified that the pricepoint is being set by YouTube for a
product that YouTube decided to buy.The NFL is in the business of making
money first and foremost, and ifthey could sell that rights package, that

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broadcasts rights package or streabute package forfifteen billion or sixteen billion, damn it,
that's exactly what they're going to sellit for. It went to the
highest bidder. It wasn't just afunction of they set the price point and
then YouTube said, I don't know, that's a little too expensive for it.
They didn't have to buy it,they chose to buy it. It
was a biddy war. It originallywas Direct TVs for the past six or

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seven years, and then YouTube overbidDirect TV to get the rights to it.
The NFL didn't say, hey,we're just going to jack this price
up because we are trying to protectCBS and Fox are partners. No,
we're in the business of making money. So if you look at the price
point, it's four hundred and fortynine dollars per year for NFL's Sunday ticket.

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It is god awful expensive. Iam not an NFL fan like that.
I can't speak for anyone else.And there are a lot of people
who do buy it, but Idon't think that there are enough people who
buy it to justify the fourteen billiondollar asking price. And if you followed
this closely, they will try tosell theyis and YouTube will try to sell

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you a pro rated package throughout theyear. It will slightly decrease after each
game because they need to get somepart of that money back, that two
point five billion annually and the fourteenbillion altogether. So again, when people
when people are trying to characterize thisas the NFL price fixing to Tech,

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Fox and CBS, I think they'vemissed it all together. It has nothing
to do with that. It hasto do with YouTube setting a price because
they have to get their fourteen billionback. This is a case that goes
back to twenty fifteen. It wasfiled by a San Francisco pub known as
the Mucky Duck, and it challengesthe way fundamentally. At its core,
it challenges the way the NFL sellsthe Sunday ticket package. The outer No,

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the NFL doesn't sell it, it'sYouTube that's who you're buying. It
from because YouTube has already paid forthe rights and now they have to recoup
that original fourteen billion dollar investment.And up until now Direct Tv has been
able to recoup. But maybe atthis point it's been priced so high because

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of the exorbitant price that YouTube payfor it, they may not be able
to get their money back. Thisis a YouTube issue, not an NFL
one. It's later with Mo Kelly. Can't I Am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app and we haveto talk about California thieves targeting Lego stores
for black market deals. Say what, Yes, it's a thing that's next.

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You're listening to Later with Mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty
and California thieves are targeting Lego storesfor resale value online in a black market.
Just when you think that you've seeneverything, you really have it.

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This touches me personally because I grewup collecting legos. I had all sorts
of Lego sets I know, betweenme and my mother, more so of
my mother spent a lot of moneyon these Lego sets. They're not cheap.
They weren't cheap then they're not cheapnow. I just didn't know that
there was a black market for thesesets. I like to be able to

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piece together other different sets from justthe pieces that I had, as opposed
to buying that. You know theStar Wars sentence. Let me see if
I can figure out how to makea tie fighter by myself. Love Legos
is great for kids growing up,learning, and now it's turned into big

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business. Listen to this high demand, high value. The Los Angeles Police
Department investigating this Lego theft ring forseven months, uncovering an organized operation a
house full of high priced and collector'sitems Lego still in the box and ready
for resale online. In this longbeat home, detectives are covering more than

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twenty eight hundred boxes of Lego toys, ranging in value from twenty dollars to
more than one thousand dollars each.Two people arrested. They have the collectors
by associated with them, and theCalifornia Highway Patrol Organized Retail Crime Task Force
also arresting four suspects after recovering morethan two hundred one thousand dollars in Lego

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merchandise stolen from various retailers across southernCalifornia. It was definitely a surprise to
find that many lagos. I thinkit was over three thousand Lego boxes.
I think that we found and inDavis, California, these images from police
more than eighty thousand dollars in merchandise, mostly Lego sets, recovered in May
that led to two more arrests.Now, I can't speak on this from

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a retailer side, but I knowTuala can because you worked in a Toys
r US store. Yes, Iworked in a Toys r Us and I
have participated in discouraging the thievery ofLego sets. And I'm sorry I used
the word thief when I should havesaid individuals found for hell, because literally

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I despised that level of thievery,being a victim of collector thievery myself,
I hope that these individuals burn inthe fiery pits of hell. But yes,
at Toys r Us, there waskind of a thing that we would
do. If we would get acode letting us know that someone was in
be it the Lego aisle or anyaisle, you would go and approach them

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and say, is there anything Ican help you find? I know a
lot about legos. Are you lookingfor a specific say oh no, no,
I'm just looking well okay, wellhey, and then you just start
talking to them and eventually, yeah, they get discouraged and they just leave.
Well yeah, we would. Youwould hear boxes people trying to get
pieces out there. Oh this hasbeen a thing for many years now.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, this isn't new, but it wasn't
to this level, or or itwas and we just didn't know. I
think part of this may be impactedby this is just me spitballing. I
think part of it has been impactedby the online phenomena, where it's easier
to quote unquote fence merchandise. Youcan find a buyer, probably relatively easily,

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given the value of Lego. Isay, Legos. You know,
they always want to correct me.It's Lego. There's just no s okay,
the value of Legos. It's probablyeasier to unload them if you're trying
to sell them or resell them foryou know, a higher value. But
I didn't know that the thievery wasthis extensive, much less that they're hitting

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multiple places in a given month.Well, I mean, Lego is a
serious collector's market now, Marshall Collier, she is a serious and I mean
a serious collector of Lego. Shebuys those extravagant thousand dollars sets on you
know, when something comes out,she will text say, hey, there's

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a new this out or the other. And these sets are out of control.
I have seen some of them,and I'm like, some of them
you don't even want to open becauseof the collectibility. So what's it likely
in these houses. Yeah, that'swhat they're getting. Yeah, And they
said this is not unique to California. As far back as twenty eighteen,

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an Oregon man was arrested for possessingapproximately fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen Lego
sets in his home, and inDecember twenty twenty three, Inside Edition had
dubbed the trend Lego larceny. Thisis something I really did not know about.
And as someone who used to collectLego just for personal collection as a

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kid, I wasn't trying to resellthem. I gave my Lego away to
friends in a neighborhood and my nepheweven you know, I didn't hoard them
like that, but I didn't.I knew that they were valuable only because
people who like Lego know how expensivethey can be, but I didn't know
that there was a resale market forit. Mark, did you know there

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was a resale market? No?And I agree with Twala that anyone who
commits grand theft Lego should rot inhell. But my question is is there
a Lego Hell kit we could build? That? Probably is, yeah,
I think they're yeah, okay,because that I'd go for that. Yeah.
Yeah. Did you collect Lego atall? I had them, I
had them, but I didn't collectthem. And so what's been funny to

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me? I mean you mentioned MarshallCollier. I've got a number of adult
friends who just go nuts and buythese things, adults, fully adult people
who will spend adult money on Legosets when they come out and build them.
But I can't pun it because it'sgood, it's therapeutic, it's meditative,
it's just fun to do. You'vegot a lot of nerve trying to

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judge adults for buying Lego. Whatdid you show me just yesterday? Did
you hear were you listening In thesecond half of my sentence, I said
I can't judge them. Yes,of course I still collect James Bond stuff.
And I just showed you a JamesBond poster that I bought. I
don't collect Legos because I got enoughstuff going on. That's that's juvenile and

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ridiculous, but it looks like fun. If I had extra bandwidth, I
would totally be into it. Stephan, did you ever collect Lego? Yeah?
No, I collect him all thetime. And he's right. It
kind of also, you know,keeps your brain kind of strong, because
if you don't pay attention to themeticulous pieces you you'll liss up the whole.
It's almost like a math equation whenyou think about it. It is.

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I just call it a three Dpuzzle where you're trying to put a
puzzle together. You're trying to putsomething it almost predates IKEA. They give
you this instruction of what it's supposedto look like when it's done, minus
the heck's keys right, and youhave all these pieces and it's supposed to
turn into what you see in thepicture. And more times than not it

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was the case with me. I'dalways have three or four pieces left over,
and I said, okay, fit, it's close enough, it's
good enough. But it's something Iwould do on a Sunday afternoon. This
was my typical Sunday afternoon growing up, I would be putting together a Lego
set or playing with Legos and Iwas watching Tom hatton the Family Film Festival

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on Channel five kt LA, andthat's that was kind of my ritual.
Whether it was a new Lego setor just playing with Legos, that is
what I did. Fond memories,you know, plenty of nostalgia. I
never thought in a million years maybeI should have held on to all my
Lego because we're talking about tens ofthousands of pieces. Oh no, if

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you have, there are some collectors. There are certain shapes or different connecting
pieces that they don't really make anymore, that are like out of print or
something like that, in specific colors, and people who do these grandiose designs
they look for these little piece Soa lot of older sets those are seriously
valuable. I mean, but likethey have a transformer's optimist prime Like it's

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like like I think, like sixteenor so inches. It turns into the
robot, but the thing transforms.This is amazing. See. That was
the brilliant thing about Lego. Theysomehow early on figured out if we can
cross promote with different movies and differentfranchises like Star Wars. It was a
a way that both sides could win, and I thought it was brilliant back

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then. I haven't gone through atoy aisle and I don't know when to
see what they're working on now,but I assume they're still doing the stage.
Oh, it's insane right right nowat Target. One of the biggest
sections there is the lego section,from the Harry Potter Castles to Changing Point
to the advancement in all Star Warssets. Anything that comes out, any

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movie that comes out, there isa subsequent lego set that hits the stores.
From Marvel, from Pixar, fromyou know, Justice League, and
anything that happens that appeals to kids, Moana, anything, there's an inside
out lego set. It's there.I bet a lego Justice League would be
better than those movies. That's notsaying much, No, it really is.

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It'd be worth more. Yeah,it's later with Moke Kelly ca If
I Am six forty live everywhere onthe iHeartRadio app And when we come back,
we'll tell you about the most Americancar for twenty twenty four and you'll
probably guess what it is. Butit's interesting that it's the most American car.
Really, we'll talk about it.You're listening to later with Moe Kelly

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on demand from KFI AM six forty. What is the most American vehicle?
What is the quintessential American car?Well, that's my formulation. Automotive experts
independently evaluated more than four hundred vehiclesto determine which was contributing most to the

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US economy in terms of manufacturing,parts, sourcing, and employment. And
the car that came out on top, well, we'll tell you in just
a moment. Coming in, let'sdo this in a list. For coming
in at number ten, the LexusTX made in Princeton, Indiana. There's

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a Princeton in Indiana. I don'tthink it's the one you're thinking of.
No, I'd never heard of Princeton, Indiana. I think the aggregate IQ
of Princeton, Indiana may not bequite as high as the other Princeton.
I'm just saying I didn't know ofit. I wasn't making a value judgment,
all right. Number nine the TeslaModel X manufactured in Fremont, California.

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And this is cars dot com Topten most American vehicles, coming in
at number eight, the Jeep Gladiator. People still purchase jeeps. It doesn't
get any more American than a jeepunless you mount some guns on top of

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it. Here's the thing. Thereis the perception of a car being American,
and this is the list about whichcars contribute most to the US economy
through manufacturing and so forth. Gotto be a truck, you think,
so, I don't think it's atruck. Well you have the list.
So I'm gonna trying to very thankyou, very softly saying I don't think

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so, like Tim will say,I don't know. I don't know,
all right? Coming in, I'msorry, Tim, I just had to
do that. Coming in at numbers. Oh yeah, we're on number seven,
number seven, Toyota Camry principally madein Georgetown, Kentucky. Nobody nothing,

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okay, number six. Talk abouta contradiction in terms. Honda Ridgeline
manufactured in Lincoln, Alabama, Alabama. I didn't know they madma football,

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Flamalla football, rusk, I'm KiJackson or an approximation of He's dead.
Honda's okay. Number five, alsoin Lincoln. I LOVEMA. The Honda
Odyssey, Okay, who would havethought that? I wouldn't have thought that

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at all. But you know it'sarbitrary. Again, this is cars dot
Com and these automotive experts independently evaluatedthese four hundred vehicles to determine which was
contributing most to the US economy interms of manufacturing, parts, sourcing,
and employment. I think Honda's arealso the most stolen car, so that

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could contribute. No, no,it's not Honda, it's it's Toyota,
Toyota and Kia. At this point, it was the it was the Honda
cor I know this because I hadone. No, I'm just saying.
But more recently, yeah, absolutely, So that's number five, the Honda
Odyssey coming in at number four.The Tesla Model S manufactured in Fremont,

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California. Number three the Volkswagen ID four, that's their electric vehicle.
Doesn't Nick have an ID four?Nick Polchini, Yeah, I think so.
I know it's a Volkswagen. I'mtelling all this business. Nick.

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Sorry. Yeah, Volkswagen I Dfour, just like the movie Yes,
Independence Day, and that's made inChattanooga, Tennessee. Number two of the
most American vehicles in America. Sayit with me, Honda Passport in Lincoln

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Alamema. And this goes to theheart of the whole perception of what is
an American car. Now. Hondais a Japanese multi national corporation, but
Honda's now are made, manufacturer distributedcompletely in the United States to avoid all
the tariffs and all the kind ofthing. I think the most American car

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is the one that's cheap enough formost Americans to afford. Right. Gone
are the days of that's an Americancar, I mean, excuse me,
that's a Japanese car. That's aKorean car. Now they're all basically made
in the United States and coming inat number one. The most American car
in America according to cars dot com, which has contributed the most to the

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US economy in terms of manufacturing,parts sourcing, and employment. The number
one car, the most American vehicleI'm of America, goes to Tesla Model.
Why are they contributing to the economyduring their frequent recalls? Yeah,

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okay, they're still yeah, becauseyou still do parts. Sure, sure,
you gotta you gotta pay people todrive you back and forth to pick
them up, right, you know, you got you gotta recall, gotta
get to reinstall. Yeah, it'sstill it's contributing. Sure, not that
I'm going to buy one, butit's contributing. So and this, you
know, cars dot Com say thatUS based auto production facilities are up one

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hundred and forty four percent since twentytwenty. I don't know if that has
anything to do with the pandemic becauseI know a lot of people. In
fact, my wife even bought acar right at the beginning of the pandemic
because a lot of dealerships were justtrying to unload the cars because they weren't
getting the type of walk in trafficthat they normally would get. Yeah,
so that's was cheap then too,because yeah, nobody was going anywhere.

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It was nowhere to go, sothat was the time to buy a car.
So yes, car sales were probablyup during the pandemic. Also,
domestic auto manufacturing unionization efforts continue tobe a hot topic. And that's also
I will say, driving this discussion. And when it comes to the global
automotive industry, it doesn't really matterwhat the cars I should say the name

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on the car, as we weresaying, it can say Honda, it
can say Toyota, it can sayKia. Most likely it was made right
here in America most likely. Sowhen you say why did you buy that
Japanese car? Why are you drivinga Honda? It was made in LinkedIn
Alabama, American LANDA Free Home anda Breath. You're listening to later with

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Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. And this is almost a
companion story to what we let offthe show with talking about la USD.
They passed this measure to ban cellphones smartphones across the school district. This
is almost connected to that as faras the desire to relieve some of the

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dependency we see everywhere when it comesto smartphones. Did you know that flip
phone sales are surging? And I'mnot talking about flip smartphones. I'm talking
about the classic kind, the backin the day kind of flip phones,
the ones from the late nineties andearly two thousands. Yes, there are

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new manufacturers that are making new phones, but they are catching on with a
segment of population which want to disconnecton some level from social media. Phones
today they're here for entertainment, theyserve up information you talk about the Internet
capabilities, and they also communicate.The flip phones back in the day All

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they did was communicate. It wasn'tabout entertainment. You really couldn't express any
information. I guess you. Atthe early that was the early form of
texting where you have to hit anumber three times to get one letter.
You have to hit seven, likethree times for an L you can spell
out something, but that wasn't itsprimary purpose. It was just for making

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calls. That's it. And Igot to tell you, if I didn't
work in radio or entertainment, Iwould do this. Why Because I don't
want to be as connected to myphone and social media as I am.
And I know when people start makingthe comparisons to alcoholics or other addicts,

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Yeah, I can. I cansee that because you're starting to do things
or using the phone for extreme amountsof time to your own personal detriment,
to your own health, to theto I always say, to the to
your own downfall. You know,it could be from driving, you distracted

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driving. It could be your neglectingother family members, you could be neglecting
duties. That's what an addict usuallydoes, making all these decisions which are
counterintuitive to what's best for him orher. So it's not just me.
According to the latest statistics the averageperson spends nearly five hours a day on

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their smartphone, which equals six daysa month and twelve years over a lifetime.
Yeah, that probably that's probably me. Hello, I'm more so Kelly,
and I'm a smartphone aholic. Yes, I just had to put that
out there. I'm self aware andI try to justify well, I need
to do it for my job.I have to do it, stay at

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breast of all the news and everthey have to stay in touch with everyone.
But deep down inside, I getit. I'm an addict and I
need help. I need to makeamends. I need to go through the
whole twelve steps. I know mywife is probably listening like, yes you
are, you need help, ButI get it. Why people are going
back to the classic phones. Itmakes sense. It is actually attractive to

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me. If I could make mylife fit that pre smartphone era today,
I would do it in a heartbeat. But I genuinely cannot because the parameters
of my job really won't allow me. I do have to stay abreast of
breaking news. And even if Itook out the smartphone component, like if

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I just wanted to listen to KFI, I'm not in a place where I
could listen to CAFI all the time, not without iHeartRadio. You know,
there's just certain places I can't.It's hard for me to get any AM
radio in my house. Long story, I kind of need the Internet for
that, so it wouldn't work formy lifestyle, but I wish I could.
I would go back to that StarTackle in a heartbeat. I would.

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I don't know it makes sense.This is different from people going back
to vinyl. This is different froma court people who are using earlier technology
for nostalgia reasons or they wanted tobe retro cool. Now this is actually
providing a necessary service today, peaceof mind. There are times I don't

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know who I was talking too.Maybe it was you Twallow, No,
it was Mark Ronner, And Iwould say, like there's sometimes where I
turn off my phone or I shouldsay it's on silent and there's certain people
who can call me and that's it. That's it, and it will be
only an emergency. Other than that, I'm not going to get the text
message, I'm not going to getthe email notification. I'm not even going
to get the missed called notification untilI see my phone in the morning because

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I have to have some degree ofseparation. Now, when you're of a
certain age and you have an agingparent, you have to be accessible twenty
four to seven, and anyone who'smy age or is dealt with an aging
parent, there's no getting around that. But outside of that, I like
being able to cut out the world, shut off the world at about one

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in the morning. That's about usuallywhen it happens. That's still late.
It's late, but I'm not gettingup, hopefully at five or six in
the morning, so I can givemyself a good seven eight hours where there's
no type of influence from the phone. I think it's the average American.
I mean, look, anyone listeningright now, if they were to do

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a search on their phone and breakdown their average screen time, I'd say
the average person's screen time is wellover ten hours on average. Yeah,
I don't want to look at minebecause I know it's almost like I really
don't want to test for certain diseasesbecause I probably have it. You know,

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that's just one of the things whereI don't want to know how much
screen time I have because it's notgoing to be good news. It's not
going to be good news. Iknow. I'm an addict. I need
treatment, I need help. Ineed to put the phone down. This
article is all about is talking tome, and they're saying, mo,
it's judgmental. I feel attacked,okay, and I know you're giving this

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to me twala because you're trying tosay something. No, no, seriously.
I was amazed at the fact thatsomething from our childhood, and when
I say child our teens really iscoming back and coming back in a major
way. And there are even youngpeople, not just older people are like,
oh the nostalgia, but there areactually this growing movement of young people

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who are like, we need toget back to just talking. And I
remember the first editions of the flipphones. There wasn't an even texting.
It was just calling and they hadthe little button that you could press to
get a voicemail. Yeah, andthen second generation you could add texting,
and that was kind of the beginningof the end. When you did that,
that was the beginning of it.In look, why don't they just

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bring back the beepers and then youhave to have the numerical codes, but
they do no, no, no, no no. There are still several
doctors at theaters who that I personally, who see, really they just have
beeper's and that they connect on thatthey're two way pagers. Yeah. Yeah,
and I'm just like man and Isaw it. I said, where'd
you get that? He said,no, no, no, no,

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these are back. Many of uswe use this because we can't have our
cell phones going off, and wedon't, so we just pick it up.
We can get messages, and wecan communicate directly with our staff if
we have to, like say,being surgery or something. This is how
we communicate. Now we're no longerjust we're not on cell phones because that's
no. Yeah, all right,I didn't know that. Yeah, man,
did you ever have a pa mark? No. I was looking though,

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when right around the time they wentout of style. I was looking
at the pager wristwatches because those looklike a secret agent thing of the future.
Yeah. I love gadget watches.I love gadget phones. But I'll
say this is stripped down as thoseold flip phones were, you know,
exactly the reason I love them.Take a guess Star Trek communicator, gentlemen,
I suggest you beat me aboard.Yes, yeah, I remember when

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they can a not that's all Mygrandfather would talk about like this is straight
out of the series, and I'mlike, yeah, oh, you're damn
right. Yep, yep, absolutelythose were fun. Well, maybe there's
hope for me. No, no, no, there isn't. No.
Okay, thanks for that. Imean, I'm here to help, but
not that much. But no,there's no hope. It's all right.

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