August 29, 2024 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Wellness Wednesday with wife, mother, fitness expert, and masterful storyteller Claudine Cooper breaking down the benefits of ‘water aerobics’ and MORE…PLUS – Thoughts on the California Senate passing “AI Bill” AB 2602, which “regulates the use or creation of a ‘digital replica’ of a performer” AND a look at “Bee Terror” from Joshua Tree, CA. to Gilbert, Ariz. - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're live on Instagram. It's Wellness Wednesdays with Claudine Cooper
Claudinecooper dot com. Claudine is back in the studio. I
think she just came back from dropping off for her
child in college. She got some son you check it
out on Instagram live.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Claudie is good to see you. How you feeling?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Good to see you too, Mo. I'm always happy to
be back here in studio with you. How's everything been
going with you?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Everything is just fine, with exception of Mark Ronner. He's
been a real troublemaker. I'm trying to get rid of
him and I can't get rid of him. It's like
he's a ward. He won't go away. Here he comes, here,
he goes.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That sounded rather unkind. No, I would never say I
love you.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Mark.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Are sitting own business, and then then I hear this
full frontal assault.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, what if I done to you? Just focus on
the nice exercise lady.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Please.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I love how he calls me the nice exercise ladies.
You haven't got a name yet, when in fact some
people say I'm the mean exercise lady.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Even better, aren't exercise people usually mean because they're pushing
you through boundaries, or at least self imposed boundaries.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
We have to be firm.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
One person told me that people who work in fitness
are intense. We are intense because we believe in what
we're pushing. We're pushing good health, we're pushing movement. We're
trying to get people to live their healthiest and best lives. So, yes,
it can come across as mean. Part of the reason
(01:34):
why I brought you here today.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
As far as pushing people, we may find a way
to work out to stay active in different ways. It
may depend on our physical limitations, which may be real.
Sometimes it may have to do with our age or
injuries sustained over the years.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
Pregnancy that too. Yes, I wouldn't have thought of that,
but yes. But something else I've been hearing about more
and more water aerobics.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have, on occasion throughout life worked out in a pool.
I don't have a pool, but the times I had
one accessible to me, it was really really helpful.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Why is it so helpful? Well, there's a few reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
First of all, did you see my Instagram post where
we had a whole party dedicated to water aerobics.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I've been teaching water aerobics, as my children would say,
since the nineteen hundreds. Okay, that means anything below the
year two thousand is considered the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Just in case you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Didn't know that, Got it, Got it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And so one of the things about water aerobics is
that if you are injured, if you are pregnant, if
you have limited mobility, the water actually sort of protects
you from getting reinjured. It's almost like the buoyancy of
the water prevents you from having that impact that you
would have if you were running outside. Imagine you're on vacation,
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You're at your pool, You're running in the pool back
and forth. Now how you run in the pool is
different than how you would run outside. The water is
it's actually a resistant but the impact is zero.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I get it, I get it, I get I'm picking
up what you're putting down. If just tuning in, I'm
speaking with Clauding Cooper, our regular health and wellness expert,
on this Wellness Wednesday, and also we're on Instagram live
at mister mo Kelly m R. M O K E
L L Y.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
If you want to take a gander at Claudine Cooper.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, how is it that we should go about this, Because,
like I said, not all of us may have access
to that pool. Some of us may or may not
have that gym membership which has that pool. Uh, And
I don't think you're expecting us to, you know, play
around in the bathtub or the shower.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Listen, pools are here in La southern California, pools are
pretty accessible here.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
I mean answer this. Do you have a friend with
a pool?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Okay, most of us have at least one friend with
a pool. Does that mean you can just crash your
friend's pool and do some water aerobics? Usually not, you know,
not if we're going to stay friends. They're like, why
are you in my pool at seven am? No, listen,
here's the thing. There are public pools, there are private pools.
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There are community pools. I personally live in a gated community.
We have a community pool. My gym that I work at,
Iconics Fitness in Englewood, is building a rooftop pool so
that we can do lap swimming and water aerobic That's cool. Oh,
it's going to be bomb. It's going to be a
real a rooftop pool. Don't get me started. Overlooking the
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stadium and the into It dome.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Do you know anyone over there who might be able
to hook me up?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
I know this girl named Claudine.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But you know, the membership is still reasonable, And I
do have to say reasonable is a subjective term, right,
But in gym memberships there are levels, and for most
people who want to explore the water aerobics line of fitness,
there are gyms that range in monthly dues from about
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fifty dollars a month to about three hundred dollars a month.
So I don't like to assume what people can and
can't afford, but I've worked in so many gyms of
different levels that I know there's a level for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
When did you find discover realize the benefits of water
aerobics or just water training?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Okay, this is a funny story.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I had just had my first daughter, and this
was twenty years ago, and I wanted to pick up
a couple classes at the gym. I'd always taught classes
and I was ready to get back into the swing
of things. So I go to the gym that was
nearest to my house, and they had a pool. I
don't know if you remember. It was called the Magic
Johnson twenty four Hour Fit and they had just opened
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and I went in and I asked Christine if I
could get a job, and she said yes, and she said,
you know, we have immediate openings for water aerobics.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
And I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
When I pictured water aerobics, what I pictured in my
mind was you know, bluish hair.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
You know the swimsuits.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean older, older, I mean you said, really older folks.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
We're talking one hundred and twenty five. We're not somebody
who's listening right now, not one person I was listening.
You guys are all young at heart. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I didn't realize that water aerobics is actually really great
for people who are recovering from any kind of injury, surgery.
You don't have to be quote unquote an active older adult.
You can be our age and benefit from pool.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So nice, fifty, that's nice of you.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Well I'm under fifty for now.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You said our age.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I'm thinking, like, okay, I'm back to under fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You said, no, no, no, you're not not you not you.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
So.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But anyways, when I got into the water area of
that particular gym, I saw people of all ages, all ethnicities,
and the funniest thing, the woman who was teaching it.
Her music was just the same music that I use
in my classes. So I was like, wait, water aerobics
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is a party in the pool, sign sign me up.
So basically what I did, I transferred my low impact
out of the water aerobics moves into the water, and
then I took an aqua Fit certification because you also
have to be able to save a life. Funny story
one time when I was teaching, and it's not funny actually,
(08:16):
but I was teaching water aerobics, going back to how
we said people are intense that are in fitness, and
someone just veered off, like she just started floating.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
In the water. Well, it turned out she was having
a stroke.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But wait, here's my reaction as an intense fitness professional,
I say, excuse me, everyone needs to be over here
doing the movements, not knowing that she was having a
health challenge at that moment. Luckily, the paramedics were working
out on the second floor, came down, she recovered fully.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, this is where I usually say that's the kind
of God we serve.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that's just me.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
No, No, I believe. I believe. I've seen enough to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yes, if you're just tuning in.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
My guest right now in studio is Claudine Cooper, our
regular commentator for Wellness Wednesdays. In fact, we are Instagram
live at mister mo Kelly m R M O K
E l l Y. We'll have Morble clauding in just
a moment KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Forty WI moo Kelly onek AM six.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, including Instagram live
at mister mo Kelly m R M O K E
l l Y. Our guest in studio is our regular
Wellness Wednesday commentator, Claudine Cooper. Of course, you can find
her at Claudincooper dot com her website. Last segment, we
were talking about the benefits of water aerobics and I
(09:51):
have to ask you this because Clauding, we have these
benchmarks during the year. Of course, you have the New
Year's resolution, and now we talked about when people start
dropping off. Yes, and once you turn on mic there
so people can see your face because we're on the
Instagram loot.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There we go.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Sorry, can you see?
Speaker 6 (10:08):
There we go?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But also we're coming to the end of summer, and
so the motivation for that summer body or whatever maybe
maybe falling by the wayside. In your professional history, what
do you usually see between now and the end of
the year.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And my professional history, what I see is people falling off.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That's what I see.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Here's the thing, though, this is Los Angeles, California. This
is southern California. We actually never really go into hibernation
mode like the rest of the world. So attaining a
summer body, isn't it kind of all?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well you're around.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, So I guess the way I see it is,
instead of working out towards a summer body or a
new Year's resolution, or your fiftieth birthday or whatever it
may be, why not look at it more like a
lifestyle shift. In other words, identify why you want to
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work out, right, And there's going to be people who
are like, well, girl, I want to work out because
I want to lose twenty pounds. Okay, but once you
lose the twenty pounds, what happens next? Staging it because
if you lose the twenty pounds, you go to the
gym and you attain that goal, Then what you stop
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going to the gym, and then you end up having
to go back to the same goal after you regain.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
That twenty pounds again.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So my thoughts are, adopt a lifestyle that you can
manage instead of going in. This is what I noticed.
I'm gonna just be honest with you, okay, and I'm
not trying to be intense like I said in the
beginning of this segment, But I've noticed that what people
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do is they go balls to the wall, right, Okay,
I'm gonna work out every day.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, I'm gonna work out twice a day.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I'm gonna eat vegan, I'm gonna not drink any alcohol.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
And I got crazy. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
What if you did, like a more moderate approach that
would have a long lasting effect, that would be easier
to maintain and sustain.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Slow and steady wins the race.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
So the way I see it, instead of doing a
major food overhaul, why not just start incorporating more vegetables.
You don't have to go vegan. But how about we
eat more kale. I have a kale salad in the
car right now. How about we eat more sweet potatoes
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or broccoli, and then you can factor those things into
your average meals. Right, you're not missing out on let's
just say wings, because I know people love wings.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right, We talk about this all the time.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I have a pizza weakness.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I have a pizza weakness myself.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
How do you deal with your weakness?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I eat a slice of pizza and a salad on
a side.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But I also am not big on deprivation because I
believe that deprivation leads to binge.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Say that again, because they didn't hear you the first time.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I believe that deprivation leads to binge, binge, eating, binge,
drinking binge, sweets, binge, whatever it might be. And if
you say, hey, I'm gonna go hard in the gym,
I'm gonna do all these things, how about maybe thirty
to sixty minutes. See how that goes for you. I'll
(14:10):
tell you what happened last week. A woman came in
with her six months old son, and our kids club
at the gym was closed at the time she gets
to the front desk, she's got the six month old
right here, right, and she goes is the kids club open?
And I said it's actually not. She's like, I just
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wanted to do forty five minutes on the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Did it?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
I said, give me the baby.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Now, this is what is really sweet about working in
a small business, which is what iconic spinness. It's a
small business. It's not a chain, it's not big box gym.
So I took the baby and I held her baby
for forty five minutes while she got her cardio in.
And these are the small things that as a mother
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you can relate to. You asked me how I got
started with water aerobics. I was a new mom and
I just wanted to get sixty minutes of exercise in
and I wanted to do it by teaching a class.
And I started teaching water aerobics. And now to this day,
I still have quite a big following of people who
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are waiting for a pool so that we can do
water aerobics.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's a beautiful thing. And I look at this as
part of your ministry in which you get to reach people,
touch people, change their lives, change their circumstances. Now, I
know you took like a one month hiatus as far
as your online free community workouts and also your Friday
excuse me, Saturday community workouts.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Are you back yet, I'm almost bag Yay.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
September seventh, which is Saturday, we start back with the
free outdoor community workouts at Hollywood Park in Inglewood. Parking
is free, the workouts free. The farmer Market Farmer's Market
is not free, but it's going on at the same time,
so you can go get your kale, you can go
get your bruccoly.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I do still do my virtual workouts every Friday, and
those have not been on hiatus, so everything's going business
as usual.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
But we're back on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And they can reach you where on social media.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
My handle on all things is fit with three. That
means I'm fit with three kids, fit with three, f
T WIT and every three. I know a lot of
people don't know that, but that's where it came from.
Somebody said, what if you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Have a four kid?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm like, I'm not, I'm done. No, I'm all the way.
I don't worry about somebody wishing I took matters into
my own hands or you're sharing something tonight tonight. So yeah, No,
we're still doing the virtual workouts. We're starting back with
the community workouts outside. So I'm excited because the weather
(16:57):
is going to cool down over the next three months.
It's going to be really enjoyable to be outside with friends,
with neighbors, with community members.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Claudiancooper Claudinecooper dot com. It is always great to talk
to you, is even better to see you. Thank you
for braving that traffic to come out and see us.
And I can't speak for anyone else, but I know
that what you are offering is going to be a
great benefit to someone who's listening right now.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
I pray meet someone right where they are.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's Later with Moe Kelly. We'll see you next week,
right you will.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
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California Senate has just passed a very important bill as
it relates to entertainment, and this bill is going to
protect performers from unauthorized AI replicas and it's going to
head over to the Governor's desk. We assume Gavin Newsom
will sign it. Sag AFTRA has made it one of
(18:00):
its top priorities, and the leadership over at sag AFTRA
full disclosure, I'm a member of sag After. They are
celebrating this. The bill AB twenty six zero two would
require explicit consent for the use or creation of a
digital replica of a performer, and this language in this
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bill closely mirrors that in the sag After contract. We
may remember during that labor stoppage, this was one of
the key items that rank and file membership was asking
for fighting for, and from what I read, the bill
extends those protections to include other types of performances like
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video games, audiobooks, commercials, and would encompass non union work.
I think this is a start, but this is not
the end, and inevitably the law will never be able
to keep up with technology. And this is what I mean.
If you are an established actor, let's say I'll just
(19:06):
use Tom Cruise for an example. If you are Tom Cruise, yes,
this protects Tom Cruise from someone using his likeness, his voice,
anything which may seem like if you look at it,
it's like that seems like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It protects against.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That some AI replica where you're using Tom Cruise's likeness
and you're creating content that would protect Tom Cruise from that.
But here's the problem which has not been addressed yet.
We've discussed it. It doesn't preclude, it does not prevent
any of these motion picture studios from just using AI
(19:46):
and creating characters, creating people digital just people, if you will,
through CGI, and putting them into productions and moving out
the actor all together. And I hate it when I
agree with Mark Ronerd. This is just one of those
times where I do where AI is going to end jobs.
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If you've seen Oh, put its way, let's go gosh.
I don't want to give away what was in Alien Romulus,
but there is a perfect example in Alien Romulus where
a digital representation of a person is used. Now there
is an actual actor, but there's a digital overlay. What
(20:31):
I mean is you can do a full person at
this point in movies and not use the actor. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That's a rough one, isn't it. Because this actor is
dead and they got permission from the actor's family, so
they were cool with it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But the technology is there.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
If the technology is there, it is guaranteed to be abused.
There's just no question about it, because that's what always happens. Well,
let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It may not be a situation where you're going to
use a recognizable actor or actress. It could be just
you'll just use a completely digital or digitized version of
a person and you don't need to hire an actor.
They can create the voice, they can create the speech,
they can create the dialogue with no help from anybody.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah, it's it's really depressing. And remember the people who
want this, who are forcing it. Honest, normal people don't
want this. It's a small group of people who stand
a profit from it by not paying real human beings.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Always keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But part of that is these are companies, these are businesses,
and if they can decrease the bottom line, they're going
to go ahead and take that opportunity. If they can
make that two hundred and fifty million dollar movie for
I don't know, one hundred and seventy million, they're going
to take that because ultimately, if that movie makes two
hundred and fifty million, they have an extra thirty million
dollars of profit.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, this is why we have regulations because corporations don't
have any moral sense or any sense of the public good.
And if they do, sometimes it's a bonus.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yes, well if they don't have no not if, since
we both know that they don't have any altruism, there
is no moral component to making money, then you have
to assume then that in the way that we've seen
automation in supermarkets, that we've seen in fast food, the
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digital equivalent of automation is coming to the motion picture industry.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's already here in many respects.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But I don't understand why they don't understan I don't
understand why we're not having the conversation about how actors
won't be used at all in the near future.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
I mean, I remember a number of years ago when
people rightly lost their minds about a commercial with Fred
Astaire dancing with a vacuum cleaner. I remember, and I
thought that was fairly obscene. I did the Estaire family
need the money? I have no idea, but think of
just how back then we were concerned and now we've
got this hellish technology that's guaranteed to be abused.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, we don't even know the limits or the parameters
of the technology. You can do a quick search on
any of the search engines, and you can find complete
AI movies having no human input, having no real actors.
And that's right now, that's some kid in his basement
using his high powered computer. We're not talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The power and the backing of an actual studio.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I'm glad you brought that up, because I've been compulsively
watching these made up phony AI trailers for superhero movies
that don't exist, and I think every single thing about
them is despicable and evil. But I've been really curious
and just watching him. And I actually tried to ascend
one a couple of them to a comic book writer
friend of mine, and he refused to look at it,
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and good on him for that, but my curiosity got
the better of me.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Have you seen these I've seen a lot of them
because I've gone down the rabbit hole where you're just
because I'm amazed at how I want to figure out
how they created a lot of these trailers.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Well, what attracts me in the first place is that
they have this really cool fifties look. It's like right
out of these sci fi movies of the fifties, like
gog If you're not familiar.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And that's one. They did a Star Wars version of
that out of the fifties, and I said, how do
they do that?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, Star Wars, Justice League, Batman, Alien and they all
have this really cool retro.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Look.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
What's weird is that the characters, the eye characters don't
even look the same from one cut to another. And
but the detail in these is phenomenal. But again, nobody
is asking for this. This is a cool oddity. It's
a novelty for right now, but it's guaranteed to get
out of hand. If it's not regulated, well.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's going to get out of hand because you have
people just it could be for genuinely i'll say innocent reasons.
You can have up and coming filmmakers who want to
be able to put out their ideas and they can
use that. An AI would be an inexpensive way to
create some of these I'll say low level motion pictures.
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And I understand that's where a lot of this is going.
But you can see the moment that the movie studios
embrace it, as in lean into it. You will see like,
for example, remember when the first Toy story came out
and there was some concern about the future of animation.
They were going to three D animation, and if you
(25:23):
look at the original toy story today, it looks very crude,
but now it is. They've perfected the technology in a
way where you're seeing almost a whole new brand of animation.
This is what I think is going to have with
this these AI movies, where you're gonna see a whole
new industry of this type of.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Movie making and you won't be able to stop it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
You may be right about not being able to completely
stop it, but I think a lot of people who
love movies are just going to refuse to go to
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We'll see because there is a human component. You can
have a complex, deletely AI movie, but you can have
an underlying script which was written by a human which
could make it passable. That's why I make the comparison
to animation, where yes, you're using real actors in animation,
but the visual component doesn't have to be real.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
It's tough too, because putting a movie together, putting a
comic book together, any of that stuff takes a lot
of time, effort, and money. I mean, producers, it's not
just an honorary title. They do a lot of work
getting the fundraising going, and these things are very painstaking
to put together and they take a long time. So
let's say you're just starting out in the business and
you don't have any money, and you're supplied with that
(26:40):
kind of cheap shortcut. I can imagine how you'd wrestle
with not taking that.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think the real litmus test will be when there
is a legitimate studio who tries to put out a
quote unquote legitimate movie, and it will be up to
us to either accept or reject it. And I think
that will greatly influence where we go from there. But
if we if we buy in, literally buy in, there's
(27:07):
no turning back.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Looking into our dystopian future. I'm gonna come down on
the side of human beings on this one.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Okay. With that, you mean like believing or rooting for us,
because I believe the human nature. I think we're always
going to trend towards evil. That's a whole other conversation. Okay,
we don't have time for that. Oh look at the time.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Know I've been to Joshua Tree maybe once or twice
as both times four yeah, it two times for four
h is part of a camping project, so we camped
out of Joshua Tree. It was fine from when I
was fourteen years old. Never again, but you know, I've
been to Joshua Tree, so I have a point of reference.
But parts of Joshua Tree National Park have been closed
(27:54):
due to not one, but multiple swarms of bees, and
in fact, they had to announce it on social media
and they were letting people know that it wasn't safe
to go to Joshua Tree because the bees were everywhere.
Now I have to let people know all the time.
If I know that you're overrun by bees, then I
(28:16):
will not be going there. So I'm glad that it's
at least over there at Joshua Tree and not over
here at KFI, because if I knew that parts of
whatever place were closed down, it means I'll never go
there again. I'll be serious. Is this phobia? It's absolutely real.
It's not an act in any way. Really, Oh, it
really is. I look and I.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Say this every time, and people never believe me.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If there was a bee in the studio and it's
keeping me, if it's between me and the door. I
will kill everyone in the studio to get out.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Where's this come from? Were you traumatized as a child?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Started in the early nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I had this fixation and fear about the killer bees
coming to America.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, that was the thing for that was the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And if you're not old enough to remember, they were
talking about the bees coming as if it was going
to be a plague. I mean, it was something that
was really hyped up, and they were supposed to get
here I think in nineteen ninety according to the original
estimates of their migration pattern.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, they really taunted us with that. They terrified us
with that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
That does your fear of bees extend to say, if
you met the bee girl from the blind Melon video,
you would kill her on the spot.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
If the bee was in the way of me getting out?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Yeah, now the bee girl, little girl in a bee costume. No,
if it's a real bee, everybody dies. Okay, Okay, I
can't be more clear. Okay, all right, clarification received, Thank you.
So just no, I don't care if it's a honey bee.
I don't care if it's a yellow jacket. I don't
care if it's a bumble bee. I don't care if
(29:57):
it's a carpenter bee.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Carpenter bees are cool.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, they're big, and they're scary. I'm not even sure
they have a stinger. But and they're blind. They can't
even see you. That makes even worse. They may pump
into me. You'll be fine. No, I will not be fine.
And yes, I've been stung before, so this is not
abstract for me.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
It's real.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Anyhow, they close down Joshua Tree, and they think the
closures will reduce the water available to the bees and
give them some time to find other sources outside the park.
It's not clear when the closed areas may reopen, but
all it means to me is I will never go
to Joshua Tree again.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Are you talking about Look, this is not a plague
of bees ever, this isn't a zombac of bees.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Nope, Look, okay, have you at least warmed up to
the idea of us going to visit the I haven't
even finished talking about going to like a beekeeper's Like, no, yeah,
I am not getting in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
One of those beekeepers outfits and going out and pulling
up a honeycomb and scraping off honey.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, no, raw honey.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Because one of those bees may get inside the suit
and I have to kill everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They don't get inside the suit.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Are you sure? Are you sure? Can you guarantee that?
I'm pretty damn sure. Well, let me put it this way.
I'm not going to Gilbert, Arizona either, because a valley
landscaper supposedly is lucky to be alive. I don't know
if it's luck, but a killer be attack, killer bees. Okay,
we're just talking about them in Arizona, the next state over.
(31:34):
They're almost here. It happened back on August twenty first.
This guy took the brunt of the bee attack, and
doctor say he was minutes away from dying.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
But wasn't it because he was allergic? No, I guess
he wasn't. Quote.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
My family was in the backyard, a bunch of kids
in the pool. My parents were over, and Louis came
running in from the back where he was attacked by bees.
He was yelling Michael, Michael, nine to one one. It
was absolute chaos. According to the story, he was finishing
up his landscaping work at the home when the bees attacked,
(32:11):
stinging him roughly three hundred times, all over his body,
all over. Yes there too? And if yes, there too? No?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yes? How did they get in there? They can sting
through clothes?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The guy ran, Uh, he was told to jump in
the pool, but that only made it worse. How did
I've heard that before? But how does it make it worse?
Did they come in the water?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
They do not die instantaneously in the water and they're
in your clothes, it will cause them to freak out
and they will attack. They will instantaneously just start darting in.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But I thought they were. They were stinging you regardless.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
So I mean, I'm imagine thousand little stingers in your
body and chlorine.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
The gardner ended up in the front yard, where he
passed out from the pain, but not before he prayed
for his life while covered in bees.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You're laughing at the plight of this man.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
While covered in bees, he prayed saying, quote, God, don't
let me die like this. This would be the worst
way to die. He's not wrong, he's not wrong. He
stayed in the hospital for two days, but he's been
since released and it's going to get back to work soon.
I guess I can't go to Arizon anymore. Arizona's off
the list. I got relatives in Arizona. I can't visit
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him anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Nope, bid the killer bees are in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, that means by December they'll be in Silmar or
I don't know Mount San Antonio or I don't Dwarte.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Jabra.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
What what if we talked about the bees are not
coming for you like that, we have more chance of
the zompac actually taking flight before the killer bees actually
get here and do this damage that you think they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, the zomb pac means the world would be over
as we know it. Yes, the killer bees getting here
means that they would just terrorize us forever.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
No, it actually means that we would have green or
grass trees that bloom full. We would have all levels
of pollination and fruit growing bountifully. It would be glorious
if we could have more bees here and so that. Okay, Well,
let me just quote this great philosopher. I don't know
if you've heard of him. His name is she Palpatine.
(34:48):
He said, wipe them out, all of them. That's insane,
all the scientists tell us. If the be goes, we're going. Also,
I've got a movie for our next guy night. It's
called My Girl from nineteen ninety one, and I think
you're really gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think i've barely Is that like mccaullay culkin in that, Yeah,
Hannah Chalomski and uh yeah, I think it's mcaulay culkin.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'll just say bees figure strongly in it. Well, they
figured strongly in the movie The Swarm too.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Doesn't mean I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No, No, it'll be fun. It's a family movie.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
You'll like it.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Look, I made the mistake of watching the movie The
Swarm when I was a child. Bad idea, bad idea.
But Beekeeper was good. Yeah, but the bees really did
not play a role in the movie per se. That
was just his his you know, public cover his job.
(35:42):
But the bees weren't like he wasn't like ant Man,
where the ants were used to kill the bad guys.
This is the philosophy of the bees were to protect
the hive, the hive being us the people.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, but the philosopher didn't kill people. Okay, these are
I'm talking about actual bees killing people.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Okay, all of them.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's later with Mo Kelly. K if I AM six
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're live on Instagram. It's Wellness Wednesdays with Claudine Cooper
Claudinecooper dot com. Claudine is back in the studio. I
think she just came back from dropping off for her
child in college. She got some son you check it
out on Instagram live.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Claudie is good to see you. How you feeling?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Good to see you too, Mo. I'm always happy to
be back here in studio with you. How's everything been
going with you?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Everything is just fine, with exception of Mark Ronner. He's
been a real troublemaker. I'm trying to get rid of
him and I can't get rid of him. It's like
he's a ward. He won't go away. Here he comes, here,
he goes.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That sounded rather unkind. No, I would never say I
love you.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Mark.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Are sitting own business, and then then I hear this
full frontal assault.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, what if I done to you? Just focus on
the nice exercise lady.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Please.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I love how he calls me the nice exercise ladies.
You haven't got a name yet, when in fact some
people say I'm the mean exercise lady.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Even better, aren't exercise people usually mean because they're pushing
you through boundaries, or at least self imposed boundaries.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
We have to be firm.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
One person told me that people who work in fitness
are intense. We are intense because we believe in what
we're pushing. We're pushing good health, we're pushing movement. We're
trying to get people to live their healthiest and best lives. So, yes,
it can come across as mean. Part of the reason
(01:34):
why I brought you here today.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
As far as pushing people, we may find a way
to work out to stay active in different ways. It
may depend on our physical limitations, which may be real.
Sometimes it may have to do with our age or
injuries sustained over the years.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
Pregnancy that too. Yes, I wouldn't have thought of that,
but yes. But something else I've been hearing about more
and more water aerobics.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have, on occasion throughout life worked out in a pool.
I don't have a pool, but the times I had
one accessible to me, it was really really helpful.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Why is it so helpful? Well, there's a few reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
First of all, did you see my Instagram post where
we had a whole party dedicated to water aerobics.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I've been teaching water aerobics, as my children would say,
since the nineteen hundreds. Okay, that means anything below the
year two thousand is considered the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Just in case you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Didn't know that, Got it, Got it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And so one of the things about water aerobics is
that if you are injured, if you are pregnant, if
you have limited mobility, the water actually sort of protects
you from getting reinjured. It's almost like the buoyancy of
the water prevents you from having that impact that you
would have if you were running outside. Imagine you're on vacation,
(03:02):
You're at your pool, You're running in the pool back
and forth. Now how you run in the pool is
different than how you would run outside. The water is
it's actually a resistant but the impact is zero.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I get it, I get it, I get I'm picking
up what you're putting down. If just tuning in, I'm
speaking with Clauding Cooper, our regular health and wellness expert,
on this Wellness Wednesday, and also we're on Instagram live
at mister mo Kelly m R. M O K E
L L Y.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
If you want to take a gander at Claudine Cooper.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, how is it that we should go about this, Because,
like I said, not all of us may have access
to that pool. Some of us may or may not
have that gym membership which has that pool. Uh, And
I don't think you're expecting us to, you know, play
around in the bathtub or the shower.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Listen, pools are here in La southern California, pools are
pretty accessible here.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
I mean answer this. Do you have a friend with
a pool?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Okay, most of us have at least one friend with
a pool. Does that mean you can just crash your
friend's pool and do some water aerobics? Usually not, you know,
not if we're going to stay friends. They're like, why
are you in my pool at seven am? No, listen,
here's the thing. There are public pools, there are private pools.
(04:36):
There are community pools. I personally live in a gated community.
We have a community pool. My gym that I work at,
Iconics Fitness in Englewood, is building a rooftop pool so
that we can do lap swimming and water aerobic That's cool. Oh,
it's going to be bomb. It's going to be a
real a rooftop pool. Don't get me started. Overlooking the
(05:00):
stadium and the into It dome.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Do you know anyone over there who might be able
to hook me up?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
I know this girl named Claudine.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But you know, the membership is still reasonable, And I
do have to say reasonable is a subjective term, right,
But in gym memberships there are levels, and for most
people who want to explore the water aerobics line of fitness,
there are gyms that range in monthly dues from about
(05:31):
fifty dollars a month to about three hundred dollars a month.
So I don't like to assume what people can and
can't afford, but I've worked in so many gyms of
different levels that I know there's a level for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
When did you find discover realize the benefits of water
aerobics or just water training?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Okay, this is a funny story.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I had just had my first daughter, and this
was twenty years ago, and I wanted to pick up
a couple classes at the gym. I'd always taught classes
and I was ready to get back into the swing
of things. So I go to the gym that was
nearest to my house, and they had a pool. I
don't know if you remember. It was called the Magic
Johnson twenty four Hour Fit and they had just opened
(06:23):
and I went in and I asked Christine if I
could get a job, and she said yes, and she said,
you know, we have immediate openings for water aerobics.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
And I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
When I pictured water aerobics, what I pictured in my
mind was you know, bluish hair.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
You know the swimsuits.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean older, older, I mean you said, really older folks.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
We're talking one hundred and twenty five. We're not somebody
who's listening right now, not one person I was listening.
You guys are all young at heart. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I didn't realize that water aerobics is actually really great
for people who are recovering from any kind of injury, surgery.
You don't have to be quote unquote an active older adult.
You can be our age and benefit from pool.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So nice, fifty, that's nice of you.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Well I'm under fifty for now.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You said our age.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I'm thinking, like, okay, I'm back to under fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You said, no, no, no, you're not not you not you.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
So.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But anyways, when I got into the water area of
that particular gym, I saw people of all ages, all ethnicities,
and the funniest thing, the woman who was teaching it.
Her music was just the same music that I use
in my classes. So I was like, wait, water aerobics
(07:54):
is a party in the pool, sign sign me up.
So basically what I did, I transferred my low impact
out of the water aerobics moves into the water, and
then I took an aqua Fit certification because you also
have to be able to save a life. Funny story
one time when I was teaching, and it's not funny actually,
(08:16):
but I was teaching water aerobics, going back to how
we said people are intense that are in fitness, and
someone just veered off, like she just started floating.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
In the water. Well, it turned out she was having
a stroke.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But wait, here's my reaction as an intense fitness professional,
I say, excuse me, everyone needs to be over here
doing the movements, not knowing that she was having a
health challenge at that moment. Luckily, the paramedics were working
out on the second floor, came down, she recovered fully.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, this is where I usually say that's the kind
of God we serve.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that's just me.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
No, No, I believe. I believe. I've seen enough to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yes, if you're just tuning in.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
My guest right now in studio is Claudine Cooper, our
regular commentator for Wellness Wednesdays. In fact, we are Instagram
live at mister mo Kelly m R M O K
E l l Y. We'll have Morble clauding in just
a moment KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Forty WI moo Kelly onek AM six.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, including Instagram live
at mister mo Kelly m R M O K E
l l Y. Our guest in studio is our regular
Wellness Wednesday commentator, Claudine Cooper. Of course, you can find
her at Claudincooper dot com her website. Last segment, we
were talking about the benefits of water aerobics and I
(09:51):
have to ask you this because Clauding, we have these
benchmarks during the year. Of course, you have the New
Year's resolution, and now we talked about when people start
dropping off. Yes, and once you turn on mic there
so people can see your face because we're on the
Instagram loot.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There we go.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Sorry, can you see?
Speaker 6 (10:08):
There we go?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But also we're coming to the end of summer, and
so the motivation for that summer body or whatever maybe
maybe falling by the wayside. In your professional history, what
do you usually see between now and the end of
the year.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And my professional history, what I see is people falling off.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That's what I see.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Here's the thing, though, this is Los Angeles, California. This
is southern California. We actually never really go into hibernation
mode like the rest of the world. So attaining a
summer body, isn't it kind of all?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well you're around.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, So I guess the way I see it is,
instead of working out towards a summer body or a
new Year's resolution, or your fiftieth birthday or whatever it
may be, why not look at it more like a
lifestyle shift. In other words, identify why you want to
(11:19):
work out, right, And there's going to be people who
are like, well, girl, I want to work out because
I want to lose twenty pounds. Okay, but once you
lose the twenty pounds, what happens next? Staging it because
if you lose the twenty pounds, you go to the
gym and you attain that goal, Then what you stop
(11:40):
going to the gym, and then you end up having
to go back to the same goal after you regain.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
That twenty pounds again.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So my thoughts are, adopt a lifestyle that you can
manage instead of going in. This is what I noticed.
I'm gonna just be honest with you, okay, and I'm
not trying to be intense like I said in the
beginning of this segment, But I've noticed that what people
(12:12):
do is they go balls to the wall, right, Okay,
I'm gonna work out every day.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, I'm gonna work out twice a day.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I'm gonna eat vegan, I'm gonna not drink any alcohol.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
And I got crazy. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
What if you did, like a more moderate approach that
would have a long lasting effect, that would be easier
to maintain and sustain.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Slow and steady wins the race.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
So the way I see it, instead of doing a
major food overhaul, why not just start incorporating more vegetables.
You don't have to go vegan. But how about we
eat more kale. I have a kale salad in the
car right now. How about we eat more sweet potatoes
(13:10):
or broccoli, and then you can factor those things into
your average meals. Right, you're not missing out on let's
just say wings, because I know people love wings.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right, We talk about this all the time.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I have a pizza weakness.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I have a pizza weakness myself.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
How do you deal with your weakness?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I eat a slice of pizza and a salad on
a side.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But I also am not big on deprivation because I
believe that deprivation leads to binge.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Say that again, because they didn't hear you the first time.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I believe that deprivation leads to binge, binge, eating, binge,
drinking binge, sweets, binge, whatever it might be. And if
you say, hey, I'm gonna go hard in the gym,
I'm gonna do all these things, how about maybe thirty
to sixty minutes. See how that goes for you. I'll
(14:10):
tell you what happened last week. A woman came in
with her six months old son, and our kids club
at the gym was closed at the time she gets
to the front desk, she's got the six month old
right here, right, and she goes is the kids club open?
And I said it's actually not. She's like, I just
(14:32):
wanted to do forty five minutes on the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Did it?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
I said, give me the baby.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Now, this is what is really sweet about working in
a small business, which is what iconic spinness. It's a
small business. It's not a chain, it's not big box gym.
So I took the baby and I held her baby
for forty five minutes while she got her cardio in.
And these are the small things that as a mother
(15:00):
you can relate to. You asked me how I got
started with water aerobics. I was a new mom and
I just wanted to get sixty minutes of exercise in
and I wanted to do it by teaching a class.
And I started teaching water aerobics. And now to this day,
I still have quite a big following of people who
(15:21):
are waiting for a pool so that we can do
water aerobics.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's a beautiful thing. And I look at this as
part of your ministry in which you get to reach people,
touch people, change their lives, change their circumstances. Now, I
know you took like a one month hiatus as far
as your online free community workouts and also your Friday
excuse me, Saturday community workouts.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Are you back yet, I'm almost bag Yay.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
September seventh, which is Saturday, we start back with the
free outdoor community workouts at Hollywood Park in Inglewood. Parking
is free, the workouts free. The farmer Market Farmer's Market
is not free, but it's going on at the same time,
so you can go get your kale, you can go
get your bruccoly.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I do still do my virtual workouts every Friday, and
those have not been on hiatus, so everything's going business
as usual.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
But we're back on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And they can reach you where on social media.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
My handle on all things is fit with three. That
means I'm fit with three kids, fit with three, f
T WIT and every three. I know a lot of
people don't know that, but that's where it came from.
Somebody said, what if you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Have a four kid?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm like, I'm not, I'm done. No, I'm all the way.
I don't worry about somebody wishing I took matters into
my own hands or you're sharing something tonight tonight. So yeah, No,
we're still doing the virtual workouts. We're starting back with
the community workouts outside. So I'm excited because the weather
(16:57):
is going to cool down over the next three months.
It's going to be really enjoyable to be outside with friends,
with neighbors, with community members.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
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Speaker 7 (17:23):
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Speaker 3 (17:25):
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Speaker 2 (17:29):
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Speaker 1 (17:32):
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
California Senate has just passed a very important bill as
it relates to entertainment, and this bill is going to
protect performers from unauthorized AI replicas and it's going to
head over to the Governor's desk. We assume Gavin Newsom
will sign it. Sag AFTRA has made it one of
(18:00):
its top priorities, and the leadership over at sag AFTRA
full disclosure, I'm a member of sag After. They are
celebrating this. The bill AB twenty six zero two would
require explicit consent for the use or creation of a
digital replica of a performer, and this language in this
(18:23):
bill closely mirrors that in the sag After contract. We
may remember during that labor stoppage, this was one of
the key items that rank and file membership was asking
for fighting for, and from what I read, the bill
extends those protections to include other types of performances like
(18:44):
video games, audiobooks, commercials, and would encompass non union work.
I think this is a start, but this is not
the end, and inevitably the law will never be able
to keep up with technology. And this is what I mean.
If you are an established actor, let's say I'll just
(19:06):
use Tom Cruise for an example. If you are Tom Cruise, yes,
this protects Tom Cruise from someone using his likeness, his voice,
anything which may seem like if you look at it,
it's like that seems like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It protects against.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That some AI replica where you're using Tom Cruise's likeness
and you're creating content that would protect Tom Cruise from that.
But here's the problem which has not been addressed yet.
We've discussed it. It doesn't preclude, it does not prevent
any of these motion picture studios from just using AI
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and creating characters, creating people digital just people, if you will,
through CGI, and putting them into productions and moving out
the actor all together. And I hate it when I
agree with Mark Ronerd. This is just one of those
times where I do where AI is going to end jobs.
(20:09):
If you've seen Oh, put its way, let's go gosh.
I don't want to give away what was in Alien Romulus,
but there is a perfect example in Alien Romulus where
a digital representation of a person is used. Now there
is an actual actor, but there's a digital overlay. What
(20:31):
I mean is you can do a full person at
this point in movies and not use the actor. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That's a rough one, isn't it. Because this actor is
dead and they got permission from the actor's family, so
they were cool with it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But the technology is there.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
If the technology is there, it is guaranteed to be abused.
There's just no question about it, because that's what always happens. Well,
let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It may not be a situation where you're going to
use a recognizable actor or actress. It could be just
you'll just use a completely digital or digitized version of
a person and you don't need to hire an actor.
They can create the voice, they can create the speech,
they can create the dialogue with no help from anybody.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah, it's it's really depressing. And remember the people who
want this, who are forcing it. Honest, normal people don't
want this. It's a small group of people who stand
a profit from it by not paying real human beings.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Always keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But part of that is these are companies, these are businesses,
and if they can decrease the bottom line, they're going
to go ahead and take that opportunity. If they can
make that two hundred and fifty million dollar movie for
I don't know, one hundred and seventy million, they're going
to take that because ultimately, if that movie makes two
hundred and fifty million, they have an extra thirty million
dollars of profit.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, this is why we have regulations because corporations don't
have any moral sense or any sense of the public good.
And if they do, sometimes it's a bonus.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yes, well if they don't have no not if, since
we both know that they don't have any altruism, there
is no moral component to making money, then you have
to assume then that in the way that we've seen
automation in supermarkets, that we've seen in fast food, the
(22:20):
digital equivalent of automation is coming to the motion picture industry.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's already here in many respects.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But I don't understand why they don't understan I don't
understand why we're not having the conversation about how actors
won't be used at all in the near future.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
I mean, I remember a number of years ago when
people rightly lost their minds about a commercial with Fred
Astaire dancing with a vacuum cleaner. I remember, and I
thought that was fairly obscene. I did the Estaire family
need the money? I have no idea, but think of
just how back then we were concerned and now we've
got this hellish technology that's guaranteed to be abused.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, we don't even know the limits or the parameters
of the technology. You can do a quick search on
any of the search engines, and you can find complete
AI movies having no human input, having no real actors.
And that's right now, that's some kid in his basement
using his high powered computer. We're not talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The power and the backing of an actual studio.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I'm glad you brought that up, because I've been compulsively
watching these made up phony AI trailers for superhero movies
that don't exist, and I think every single thing about
them is despicable and evil. But I've been really curious
and just watching him. And I actually tried to ascend
one a couple of them to a comic book writer
friend of mine, and he refused to look at it,
(23:45):
and good on him for that, but my curiosity got
the better of me.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Have you seen these I've seen a lot of them
because I've gone down the rabbit hole where you're just
because I'm amazed at how I want to figure out
how they created a lot of these trailers.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Well, what attracts me in the first place is that
they have this really cool fifties look. It's like right
out of these sci fi movies of the fifties, like
gog If you're not familiar.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And that's one. They did a Star Wars version of
that out of the fifties, and I said, how do
they do that?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, Star Wars, Justice League, Batman, Alien and they all
have this really cool retro.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Look.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
What's weird is that the characters, the eye characters don't
even look the same from one cut to another. And
but the detail in these is phenomenal. But again, nobody
is asking for this. This is a cool oddity. It's
a novelty for right now, but it's guaranteed to get
out of hand. If it's not regulated, well.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's going to get out of hand because you have
people just it could be for genuinely i'll say innocent reasons.
You can have up and coming filmmakers who want to
be able to put out their ideas and they can
use that. An AI would be an inexpensive way to
create some of these I'll say low level motion pictures.
(25:02):
And I understand that's where a lot of this is going.
But you can see the moment that the movie studios
embrace it, as in lean into it. You will see like,
for example, remember when the first Toy story came out
and there was some concern about the future of animation.
They were going to three D animation, and if you
(25:23):
look at the original toy story today, it looks very crude,
but now it is. They've perfected the technology in a
way where you're seeing almost a whole new brand of animation.
This is what I think is going to have with
this these AI movies, where you're gonna see a whole
new industry of this type of.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Movie making and you won't be able to stop it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
You may be right about not being able to completely
stop it, but I think a lot of people who
love movies are just going to refuse to go to
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We'll see because there is a human component. You can
have a complex, deletely AI movie, but you can have
an underlying script which was written by a human which
could make it passable. That's why I make the comparison
to animation, where yes, you're using real actors in animation,
but the visual component doesn't have to be real.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
It's tough too, because putting a movie together, putting a
comic book together, any of that stuff takes a lot
of time, effort, and money. I mean, producers, it's not
just an honorary title. They do a lot of work
getting the fundraising going, and these things are very painstaking
to put together and they take a long time. So
let's say you're just starting out in the business and
you don't have any money, and you're supplied with that
(26:40):
kind of cheap shortcut. I can imagine how you'd wrestle
with not taking that.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think the real litmus test will be when there
is a legitimate studio who tries to put out a
quote unquote legitimate movie, and it will be up to
us to either accept or reject it. And I think
that will greatly influence where we go from there. But
if we if we buy in, literally buy in, there's
(27:07):
no turning back.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Looking into our dystopian future. I'm gonna come down on
the side of human beings on this one.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Okay. With that, you mean like believing or rooting for us,
because I believe the human nature. I think we're always
going to trend towards evil. That's a whole other conversation. Okay,
we don't have time for that. Oh look at the time.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Know I've been to Joshua Tree maybe once or twice
as both times four yeah, it two times for four
h is part of a camping project, so we camped
out of Joshua Tree. It was fine from when I
was fourteen years old. Never again, but you know, I've
been to Joshua Tree, so I have a point of reference.
But parts of Joshua Tree National Park have been closed
(27:54):
due to not one, but multiple swarms of bees, and
in fact, they had to announce it on social media
and they were letting people know that it wasn't safe
to go to Joshua Tree because the bees were everywhere.
Now I have to let people know all the time.
If I know that you're overrun by bees, then I
(28:16):
will not be going there. So I'm glad that it's
at least over there at Joshua Tree and not over
here at KFI, because if I knew that parts of
whatever place were closed down, it means I'll never go
there again. I'll be serious. Is this phobia? It's absolutely real.
It's not an act in any way. Really, Oh, it
really is. I look and I.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Say this every time, and people never believe me.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If there was a bee in the studio and it's
keeping me, if it's between me and the door. I
will kill everyone in the studio to get out.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Where's this come from? Were you traumatized as a child?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Started in the early nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I had this fixation and fear about the killer bees
coming to America.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, that was the thing for that was the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And if you're not old enough to remember, they were
talking about the bees coming as if it was going
to be a plague. I mean, it was something that
was really hyped up, and they were supposed to get
here I think in nineteen ninety according to the original
estimates of their migration pattern.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, they really taunted us with that. They terrified us
with that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
That does your fear of bees extend to say, if
you met the bee girl from the blind Melon video,
you would kill her on the spot.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
If the bee was in the way of me getting out?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Yeah, now the bee girl, little girl in a bee costume. No,
if it's a real bee, everybody dies. Okay, Okay, I
can't be more clear. Okay, all right, clarification received, Thank you.
So just no, I don't care if it's a honey bee.
I don't care if it's a yellow jacket. I don't
care if it's a bumble bee. I don't care if
(29:57):
it's a carpenter bee.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Carpenter bees are cool.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, they're big, and they're scary. I'm not even sure
they have a stinger. But and they're blind. They can't
even see you. That makes even worse. They may pump
into me. You'll be fine. No, I will not be fine.
And yes, I've been stung before, so this is not
abstract for me.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
It's real.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Anyhow, they close down Joshua Tree, and they think the
closures will reduce the water available to the bees and
give them some time to find other sources outside the park.
It's not clear when the closed areas may reopen, but
all it means to me is I will never go
to Joshua Tree again.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Are you talking about Look, this is not a plague
of bees ever, this isn't a zombac of bees.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Nope, Look, okay, have you at least warmed up to
the idea of us going to visit the I haven't
even finished talking about going to like a beekeeper's Like, no, yeah,
I am not getting in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
One of those beekeepers outfits and going out and pulling
up a honeycomb and scraping off honey.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, no, raw honey.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Because one of those bees may get inside the suit
and I have to kill everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They don't get inside the suit.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Are you sure? Are you sure? Can you guarantee that?
I'm pretty damn sure. Well, let me put it this way.
I'm not going to Gilbert, Arizona either, because a valley
landscaper supposedly is lucky to be alive. I don't know
if it's luck, but a killer be attack, killer bees. Okay,
we're just talking about them in Arizona, the next state over.
(31:34):
They're almost here. It happened back on August twenty first.
This guy took the brunt of the bee attack, and
doctor say he was minutes away from dying.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
But wasn't it because he was allergic? No, I guess
he wasn't. Quote.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
My family was in the backyard, a bunch of kids
in the pool. My parents were over, and Louis came
running in from the back where he was attacked by bees.
He was yelling Michael, Michael, nine to one one. It
was absolute chaos. According to the story, he was finishing
up his landscaping work at the home when the bees attacked,
(32:11):
stinging him roughly three hundred times, all over his body,
all over. Yes there too? And if yes, there too? No?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yes? How did they get in there? They can sting
through clothes?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The guy ran, Uh, he was told to jump in
the pool, but that only made it worse. How did
I've heard that before? But how does it make it worse?
Did they come in the water?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
They do not die instantaneously in the water and they're
in your clothes, it will cause them to freak out
and they will attack. They will instantaneously just start darting in.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But I thought they were. They were stinging you regardless.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
So I mean, I'm imagine thousand little stingers in your
body and chlorine.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
The gardner ended up in the front yard, where he
passed out from the pain, but not before he prayed
for his life while covered in bees.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You're laughing at the plight of this man.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
While covered in bees, he prayed saying, quote, God, don't
let me die like this. This would be the worst
way to die. He's not wrong, he's not wrong. He
stayed in the hospital for two days, but he's been
since released and it's going to get back to work soon.
I guess I can't go to Arizon anymore. Arizona's off
the list. I got relatives in Arizona. I can't visit
(33:36):
him anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Nope, bid the killer bees are in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, that means by December they'll be in Silmar or
I don't know Mount San Antonio or I don't Dwarte.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Jabra.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
What what if we talked about the bees are not
coming for you like that, we have more chance of
the zompac actually taking flight before the killer bees actually
get here and do this damage that you think they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, the zomb pac means the world would be over
as we know it. Yes, the killer bees getting here
means that they would just terrorize us forever.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
No, it actually means that we would have green or
grass trees that bloom full. We would have all levels
of pollination and fruit growing bountifully. It would be glorious
if we could have more bees here and so that. Okay, Well,
let me just quote this great philosopher. I don't know
if you've heard of him. His name is she Palpatine.
(34:48):
He said, wipe them out, all of them. That's insane,
all the scientists tell us. If the be goes, we're going. Also,
I've got a movie for our next guy night. It's
called My Girl from nineteen ninety one, and I think
you're really gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think i've barely Is that like mccaullay culkin in that, Yeah,
Hannah Chalomski and uh yeah, I think it's mcaulay culkin.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'll just say bees figure strongly in it. Well, they
figured strongly in the movie The Swarm too.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Doesn't mean I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No, No, it'll be fun. It's a family movie.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
You'll like it.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Look, I made the mistake of watching the movie The
Swarm when I was a child. Bad idea, bad idea.
But Beekeeper was good. Yeah, but the bees really did
not play a role in the movie per se. That
was just his his you know, public cover his job.
(35:42):
But the bees weren't like he wasn't like ant Man,
where the ants were used to kill the bad guys.
This is the philosophy of the bees were to protect
the hive, the hive being us the people.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, but the philosopher didn't kill people. Okay, these are
I'm talking about actual bees killing people.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Okay, all of them.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
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