October 8, 2024 • 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the ‘Weekend Box Office’ AND the flop that is the ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’…PLUS – Thoughts on the surge in coyote sightings in the city of Pasadena - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty And.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A perfect example of good news bad news is Joker Too.
And I don't even want to try that French title
because I didn't take French in high school and I
can't pronounce anything except rendezvous and coup de gras and
what other words? Cela vi croissant, that's about it? Es cargo, yeah,
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what other French?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Marie Chevalier.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, but it was the number one movie in America.
It grows about forty million dollars, but its budget is
two hundred million. Its reviews are even more distressing. Two
hundred million is not going to make back. It's just
not going to make it. I haven't seen a movie
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this savage since maybe Ishtar or Battlefield Earth. I'm not exaggerating.
I can't find anyone who liked this movie.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
And I spent after I did my review Friday, I
spent the weekend watching and reading a bunch about it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It is absolutely loathed. Tuala you saw it. I did.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I saw it Friday night after why Mark savaged it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Mark Ronner was extremely kind with his review The last
time I saw film this bad, and I didn't finish
watching it. It was cats okay, oh cattle. The motion
picture is about where this film lands. This film is
blank part blank okay, and those are curse words that
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I've blanked.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay. This film should never have been made.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And there's a lot of reasons behind the scenes that
you know that this should not have been done.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
This hostly.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
The console of this was a fever dream that Joaquin
Phoenix came up with.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
That's a for red flag.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
James Gunn, who was the current head of DC Studios,
had zero input.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He offered some notes. All those notes were ignored.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Before this film was finished, the director had said I'm
already done with doing anything related to Joker.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is it. He signed off before it was done.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
This film. Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips, This film was abominable.
This film was absolutely mark. I blame you for not
trashing it enough. You don't think it was hard to
be fun, I don't. I think that you were just
this side of see it for yourself, and you should
not have said that. You should have said, don't, under
any circumstances go see this.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
If you value your life, well, okay, so I don't
usually read anything from other critics when I'm writing my reviews,
and I think I was confirmed after I stuck my
neck out, but I when I re emphasized that it's
the biggest screw you I've ever seen from a director
to a studio and the fans. Keep that in your
(03:06):
mind when you're letting this percolate in your head.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Because he was Todd Phillips, and I know you can't
get into his mind, but it seems like you're saying
that he did it intentionally, trying to bomb the movie bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think there's some brilliance to it, but that doesn't
make it an enjoyable movie at all. I think he
was commenting on the first one and the fact that
he had to do a second one, and he, like
I said Friday, he just doesn't care what you think.
There's a lot going on there, none of it enjoyable.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
This film is made by someone who wanted to give
a big Mark Ronner in the face of the nerd culture.
I believe he wanted to give nerd culture a double
middle finger to say, blank you nerds, I'm gonna make
I'm gonna take a property that is cherished and valued
and ulture and character known by you all, and I'm
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gonna give it a scarceessy treatment, and I'm gonna make
it about nothing that you want to see, because I
want to make a film that, on the surface is
for nerds, but it's gonna chase off of you nerds around.
I don't want any fanboys watching my ode to nerdism.
This is an artistic piece, and I hope he knows
it's a piece of ish and that will go down
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in history on his resume.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let me ask you both the same question. If this
movie was just named from the very beginning Arthur Fleck
or some other psychotic thriller whatever, completely unrelated to any
comic book character, would that have changed your perception of
the movies?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Plural?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
The second film was just not a good film. Okay,
the second movie is just the story is not good.
This is not because I thought Joaquin things. I thought
his performance and his commitment to the role was uncanny.
I'm like, dude, you went through all that to bring
this character to life, Bravo. I didn't necessarily have a
problem with the singing. I didn't like the singing portrayal
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I was like, this is weird, even though it's supposed
to be. You know, similar to the first film, where
there were everything you saw happened when he was quote
unquote the Joker was in his mind. This film, all
these songs are in his mind, so that part the
scene wasn't even bad. But it's just a stupid, stupid movie,
and it flies in the face of everything you know
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about the quarter. If this film was called Arthur Fleck
the Story of a sad, Sad Clown, or if this
film was called Tears of the Tears of a Clown
play on the old song, yes, that may have worked,
and it would have made more sense the minute you
call this the Joker, and you, in some stupid way
try to connect this to Batman. Amen Burned, I hope
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a pox on your career, a pox on the craft services,
the costuming, anyone associated with this film, anyone who didn't
tell you no, shoot this mother.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I dig the spirit of your question.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But you can't separate it from Joker and call it
Arthur Fleck, because both movies are complete commentaries on the
things that they're meant to be.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If that makes sense to you, No, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I went in expecting a movie the first one, which
was executive produced by Michael uselin front of the show,
and it was connected to a Batman universe that was
explicit he was not the Joker, but a joker and
was meant to be perceived in that light.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And we got nothing of the kind.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And Twalla told me some things where they tried to
connect it to a known Batman universe. But I'm not
interested in seeing the movie. I wasn't then, definitely not now,
And I don't think I want to spend the time
to watch it for free or whatever it becomes available
for streaming, which might be in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
At this point, you never know, And it's a lot
of time and money to spend on a statement like
what I perceive was being made there. It's really I
mean picture of me given the double middle finger on
the road. That's like making a massive production out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, congratulations to uh, I don't know, to Todd Phillips,
he won't be getting an Oscar this time around?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What maybe?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
What not?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
River, I'm sorry, Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was his performance oscar worthy though that can be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You can have an oscar worthy performance in a bad movie.
His his character that he played.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I thought he was astoundingly good his portrayal of this
this sad, sad, pathetic man, and knowing what he looks
like and what he had to do to carry this out,
I'm like, he must have been on a water diet
for at least two three months before filming, because man,
he was really, really a tortured soul. I felt bad
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for him, but I was also suffering from secondhand embarrassment
from how bad the film was. I was like, man,
you did all this for a film that sucks this bad.
I mean, it can't be for the paycheck. Man, Why
why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
His performance is exhausting and I'm in the minority. He
won the Oscar for the first one, but I found
that so self indulgent. I couldn't wait to get out
of both movies. Hmmm, yeah, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (08:30):
Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and Twalla
was so mad during the break It worked himself up
into this lofty, this frawley lather, and he has more
anger to share.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I forgot a couple of days and Mark, you mentioned
this happened in your theater while watching it. At several
moments while this film was showing, people got up to leave.
There was a group of like four people over to
the right. They were arguing about how bad it was.
They got up and left. Then like two other people,
like far in the front, they got left another song.
(09:10):
Four other people left out of there. When I was
walking out of the theater, I forgot that there was
someone that was literally at the front box office, like
arguing to get their money back because they said, we
walked out of there, we didn't see the end, we
want our money back. That was a horrible, horrible experience.
And I was like, yeah, you know what I should
have I should have left it as for my money
back too. By the time the film was over, I'd
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say at least a quarter of the people that were
in there had walked out. The theater was damnar empty,
and the way when it like faded to black or
whatever the end, people ran out like someone had lit
off a fire in that theater. It was so egregiously bad.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of reports of that, and
if you look on Reddit and Twitter, you'll have a
lot of fodder for amusement.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So when are you going back to see it again?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I will never see anything with the name Todd Phillips
on it ever again. Damn anything with his name on it,
I will savage it sight unseen. I don't care if
he's doing the remake of The Running Man with who
Glenn Glynn Powell. If it says Todd Phillips, I will
burn that film down before it even comes out. What
do you think about that? The remake of Running Man?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean, yeah, Look, I know Richard Dawson's gone, but
Arnold is still here. And I don't think that that movie.
That movie is a cult classic on its own. I
don't need another version of it. I don't need an
updated version. I'm sorry, not with you, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
People love him, No, that's a no dog. I think
he's a good actor, but I don't think his screen
presence and personality are big enough. Look when I saw
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him in Twisters, he was fine when he was paired
with someone else, and I liked him in Top Gun,
But as of yet, I have not seen him as
a as a movie driving figure. I don't think he's
the next Tom Cruise or anything like that can be wrong,
but I don't see that as of yet.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Running Man, No.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, I don't want anyone to do running Man, It
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No, we got to get to Wall of the complete
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He's very creative and inventive with his costumes. Mine has
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No no, no, no, no no, I see you.
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There's a better chance to be at a brony convention
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
I've told you about the numbers of coyotes and coyote
dens near my house, in my neighborhood. Around my neighborhood,
they'll come out in broad daylight. You especially see them
at night with our security cameras. You know, they're triggering
them every single night, and they're they're traveling in pacts.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's not one here.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'm talking about three and four at a time, and
I've shown twally.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You've seen the videos. It's not just.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Where I live, it's where Tawala lives and grew up.
Coyote sidings are up in Pasadena seventy percent this year,
and the Pasadena Public Health Department is urging community members
to take extra cautions to protect their families and their
pets from encounters.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
With this wildlife. Emphasis on wildlife.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
They are not dogs rolling the street, you know, they're
not pets and waiting.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They are wildlife.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They will kill your small child, they will kill your
small pet and eat them. And the only reason why
they're more comfortable coming out in the daytime is because
people keep feeding them and not running them down like
I recommend that you do.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Last night, on my way home, when I went out
to make a quick run coming back, I saw, for
some reason another I saw a cat was I was
at the corner about to turn up fair Oaks to
head to the house, and I looked across the street
and there was a cat coming outside and the cat froze.
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And I'm thinking to myself, I'm across the street, like,
there's no way I would get you cat. I'm having
a cat conversation because I'm thinking, so, oh, this is
a peculiar cat.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Why is the cat frozen like that?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Looking at my car, I just happened to turn to
the left to you know, look at oncoming traffic, and
I saw coyote on the corner staring at the cat
cross for this is a wide street, right, and I'm like, okay,
that coyote is about to run over and get that cat.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I did the right thing I did. I turned and
I chased that coyote down. I chased it away and
I saved that cat's life. And I come to find
out that there were two other coyote there in the waiting.
There was one behind the car, and one just all
packed animals, and I chased them as far as I could. Now,
if a dead animal ends up in our yard again,
we know that the coyotes are not only listening to KFI,
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but they remember my car.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Look. I get hate mail from folks who say you
should not be recommending that you should run down the coyotes.
That is inhumane.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You damn right, it's inhumane because they're not humans. Okay,
hit them with your car. And I'm not the only
one who agrees with this quote. Many of the juvenile
coyotes die due to vehicle strikes or starvation as they
search for their own territory or a new pack to join. Nonetheless,
the possibility of coyote activity and Pasadena neighborhoods increases during
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this time. In twenty twenty two, Pasadena received one hundred
and fifty nine calls for guarding coyotes, including a dozen
that ended in an injury or death of a pet.
If you come near my dogs, I promise you I'm
going to kill the coyote. There's no discussion to be had,
it's just guaranteed. Okay, if you come at my dogs,
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I'm going to kill everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
In your den.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm gonna kill any coyote that even looks like they
might be from den. If you're a kyote, you're dead.
Your whole family's dead. Your mother in law dead, your
coyote mother and brother and sister dead, all of them dead,
al Capone style dead.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Oh your coyote, Stalin or you kidding't kill their whole
school class?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Have you ever see the Untouchables? What do you think? Okay,
love it? Love it one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, but I when I talk about it, I talk
about it in a half way humorous way, but I'm
being serious. The coyotes are a menace and for whatever reasons,
the various cities, including where I live in La including Pasenita,
they have not done all they can to address this.
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While they can't now there's different services that you can
call and they'll put down this trap. It's like a
cage where they walk in the cage for the bait
and the closes behind them.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
A humane air quotes humane way to pick up.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The coyotes and they probably take them out to I
don't know, Victorville and drop them off there and let
them run around. Because if it's humane, they're not killing them,
so they have to let them go somewhere, or they
bring them up to Altadena or Pasadena.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Well, I keep seeing them because these coyotas, they look healthy,
they look fed, They do not look like they're out
there starving or missing any meals.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Well, I think it's a racket.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
In other words, where I live, we will call, they'll
bring out the traps, they'll trap them, and then they
probably drop them off in Pasadena and they get paid
for that. And then Pasadena will call and they pick
them up and they drop them back in my neighborhood
and they get paid for. They just keep shuttling them
back and forth, back and forth. You hear them when
they're with them all night long.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You hear them.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The scariest part is when you see them during the day.
You know there's something wrong. These are knockternal animals. They
are not three in the afternoon. Let me go out
for an afternoon store to find something to eat animals.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, it's either one or the other.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Either they're desperate, which is an issue, or they're very comfortable,
which is an issue. Because to your point, they shouldn't
be out there at three in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They should be scared of people. They're not. They're not.
They're going to be very scared of my new car. Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It has a high center of gravity. I can roll
over those mother fathers with these that's right, and just
keep on going. And it's like, was that a coyote?
Let me back up? Wait, I think that was a coyote.
Let me drive forward.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Maybe that was my neighbor's cat. Oh, it's the coyote.
True story, my next door neighbor. They do have a cat,
and a coyote bit off its tail, so now it
has no tail.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No true true story. Yeah, kill them dead. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I was just about to call you a blood thirsty
savage and then you said that, and now I'm on
your side.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
True story because I see and it's a cat that
goes wherever it wants, so then who knows where?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But it was it was definitely coyote.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And I'm actually surprised that coyotes can catch cats because cats,
I know coyotes can jump, but cats can really jump,
and they're really really fast and they're pretty aware of
their surroundings.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But coyotes are pretty good hunters. Well, the coyotes trick
them with ACME equipment.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That hair was feeling sympathy for the cat, and then
they had to go roadrunner and wiley coyote.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Sorry, at least you didn't make it weird. Nah, I
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I respect everything you say, Stephanie, got some crickets in
there or anything.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You're not going to get a rim shot that much,
I'm sure of. That was funny to me. No, it wasn't.
Don't humor him. I don't need your rim shot charity.
That was so funny, though the ACME.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Have you seen a coyote with a plunger for explosives? No,
I have not, not outside of I'm Warner Brothers and
I'm a rocket skates any rocket skates?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, no, nothing?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
No, okay, a brush and a can of black paint
for a cliff wall.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You just let me know when you're done. I'm going
to run to the bathroom. I'll be back, okay, No, no,
you go right ahead to the bathroom. Sure, okay, whatever, Well,
just number one.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Please.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now you're gonna limit what I can do with my
own body. Body autonomy doesn't mean anything to you.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Your body, your choice in the toilet Okay, there you go.
You had to make it weird.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
So I have a lot of shows that need to
catch up on My DVR is completely full. I don't
know what it means to watch a show when it
actually airs, be it streamed, or you know, when it
becomes available on streaming. If it's a broadcast television show,
when it comes down, like one of my favorite TV
shows and one of the you which are still on
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broadcast television, the Chicago p D love that show. Great
start to the season this year, High Intensity, High Stakes.
I couldn't tell you what night of the week it
comes on. I have no idea. I think it's Wednesday, Thursday.
I honestly don't know. And I also watch Law and
Order SVU. You know, I like all the Dick Wolf shows,
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and I'll catch up on those because I haven't seen
a couple of those episodes and I have to see
last night's I know it drops on Sundays. I have
to see last night's episode of Penguin, the Penguin or whatever,
the Penguin episode three. And that's another show. If they
didn't try to connect it to the Batman universe or
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whatever and just called it Gangster oz Wald or something
like that. It would be a fine show. But each
time it tries to remind me that it's a part
of the Batman universe, it takes me completely out of it,
because this show doesn't make sense with any comic book
superhero character. Because everybody's grounded, everyone is real. There's nothing
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really special about anyone, not the gangsters, not the police.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It looks like, it feels like, it tastes like New York,
nothing special about it. There's nothing that a Batman could
do in this Gotham nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
He would not make any difference.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Well, related to the conversation we had just a little
bit of ago about the Joker movies. I'm so sick
of movies and shows that are embarrassed of being sourced
from comic books. If you don't like comics, don't make
the show, don't make the movies. Stop wasting my time.
I don't need your statement about how this is some
sort of gritty mob show with no connection to the
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Wow Wow Penguin. Just go make a crime show that
you want to make.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I completely agree with that just make a crime show,
call the characters something else. Don't try to bring the
comics into the natural world. Because superheroes, hello, they live
in a world in which we don't. There has to
be something fantastical about it. I mean, Batman is a
normal man, but he's not of normal means.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He is the greatest detective.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
He is superhuman in his intelligence that you can't make
a lot of these movies and TV shows fit that mold.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
What about Does it drive you nuts now to have
to actually wait each week for a new episode of
a show. I find that more and more. I'm waiting
for shows to be completely finished before I start them.
Then I can just chain watch them because right now
I'm watching Slow Horses and from and it's just agony
to wait for the new episode each week.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It is, and that's why I try to either on
Sunday nights or Monday nights watch a lot of shows
so I feel like have a good three four hour
block of television. It may not be one show, but
at least I could sit down and enjoy a lot
of media. Yes, I would much rather either binge or
wait till the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That's what we did with Hell on wheels. It's a
terrific sort of old post Civil War railroad, incredibly violent
Western show.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Just Chaine. Watch as much as you want.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I mean, it's a ten year old show, so you're
not gonna be current, but you don't have to just wait.
And also, I'm finding it harder and harder to remember
what happened from one week to the next, because you
remember the shows we grew up with, they were episodic.
They weren't a serial show that you had to remember
the plot every single week. It was a brand new
adventure and then you wipe the slate clean. It's a
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new story next week.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And even though you know they have the quick review
and it's serialized, and if you don't watch them back
to back to back, it doesn't have the same impact.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
It just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And that's why I watched Game of Thrones near the end,
I watched Succession near the end. I watched most of
the Sopranos after the fact, because that's the best way.
On Ozark, I watched right before the last season. I
didn't watch any of those shows, and it was a
much better experience because I could I could follow along
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much better.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
All of it was recent.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
In my mind, it felt like one long movie, which
made it more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Except for the very end. I didn't hate the ending.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I just felt it was incomplete, and it didn't. It
just told us that they got out of this situation.
It didn't tie up everything for me.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well, that is a problem for me with the serialized
shows is that not many of them managed to stick
the landing. I'm almost at the end of Evil, which
is a terrific show on CBS. I got one episode
to Coe Pardon Me, and I'm hearing mixed things about
the ending, and I almost don't want to watch it
for that reason, because I've still got the scars from Lost.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay, do you want me to make you jealous real quick?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Go ahead. Never heard of Michael Emerson, oh the bad Guy? Yeah? Yeah,
he's great. I like him.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
He's been on twice. You know, I was jealous of
you about Shatner already. You don't need me any more
jealous of you. You know who his wife is, right,
I forget her name. It's an actress though, as she
plays Elsbeth. Yeah that's right. Yeah, I mean, look, if
you make me any more jealous, I'm gonna start breaking
into your house and you'll find me sitting there in
the dark when you come home at night.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I just have to rub it in, you know, Carrie Preston, actress.
I just do that because I'm jealous of your George
Carlin and your Robert Downey junior interviews. I have to
get back at you somehow.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well you have.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I'll always be jealous of Shatner, Shatner and Adam West.
I never managed to interview Adam West, although I did
talk to Bert Ward while you were gone one week recently.
We're very lucky that we get to talk to these people,
especially older people, while they're still around.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I didn't get to talk to Adam West, but I
did get to speak to Julie Newmar.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I love her. Everybody loves her. Yeah, you'd be you'd
hate America not to love her.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, it's one thing to love, it's another thing to
be able to talk to her. And it was on
the occasion of Adam West's death that we spoke to her.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
As a matter of fact, it's been a while though
I was such a fan of Adam West. They showed
the nineteen sixty six Batman feature film at the cinerama
with West and Ward, and it was so it nearly
brought me to tears. I'm not exaggerating. It was such
a wonderful experience.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Maybe we need to like compile all of our Batman
related interviews and put them together. Get my Michael Eusland
and Julie Newmar, you get your Burt Ward and Adam West, and.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We'll just have a celebration.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I've had some contact with Eusland because he also wrote
for Dynamite at the same time I was. I think
he was doing some sort of pulp thing with like
the Shadow and the Avenger Duck or the Spider, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
He's amazingly talented. I like him. He's a fan. Yes,
I'm trying to get him in studio, but it would
be great.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So he doesn't have time for us. He's got Batman
business to take care. Look, he's been on three times,
he knows us, knows us well. You think he's gonna
schlep over here though, and be physically in the studio with.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Us, Yes, we are. We are that close. Serious.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm not bsing now, I'm being very serious. It's just
that we would have to avoid the whole joker to conversations.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, that's gonna get awkward, isn't it real awkward? Hoops
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KFI AM six forty And.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A perfect example of good news bad news is Joker Too.
And I don't even want to try that French title
because I didn't take French in high school and I
can't pronounce anything except rendezvous and coup de gras and
what other words? Cela vi croissant, that's about it? Es cargo, yeah,
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what other French?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Marie Chevalier.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, but it was the number one movie in America.
It grows about forty million dollars, but its budget is
two hundred million. Its reviews are even more distressing. Two
hundred million is not going to make back. It's just
not going to make it. I haven't seen a movie
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this savage since maybe Ishtar or Battlefield Earth. I'm not exaggerating.
I can't find anyone who liked this movie.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
And I spent after I did my review Friday, I
spent the weekend watching and reading a bunch about it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It is absolutely loathed. Tuala you saw it. I did.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I saw it Friday night after why Mark savaged it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Mark Ronner was extremely kind with his review The last
time I saw film this bad, and I didn't finish
watching it. It was cats okay, oh cattle. The motion
picture is about where this film lands. This film is
blank part blank okay, and those are curse words that
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I've blanked.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay. This film should never have been made.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And there's a lot of reasons behind the scenes that
you know that this should not have been done.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
This hostly.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
The console of this was a fever dream that Joaquin
Phoenix came up with.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
That's a for red flag.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
James Gunn, who was the current head of DC Studios,
had zero input.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He offered some notes. All those notes were ignored.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Before this film was finished, the director had said I'm
already done with doing anything related to Joker.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is it. He signed off before it was done.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
This film. Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips, This film was abominable.
This film was absolutely mark. I blame you for not
trashing it enough. You don't think it was hard to
be fun, I don't. I think that you were just
this side of see it for yourself, and you should
not have said that. You should have said, don't, under
any circumstances go see this.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
If you value your life, well, okay, so I don't
usually read anything from other critics when I'm writing my reviews,
and I think I was confirmed after I stuck my
neck out, but I when I re emphasized that it's
the biggest screw you I've ever seen from a director
to a studio and the fans. Keep that in your
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mind when you're letting this percolate in your head.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Because he was Todd Phillips, and I know you can't
get into his mind, but it seems like you're saying
that he did it intentionally, trying to bomb the movie bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think there's some brilliance to it, but that doesn't
make it an enjoyable movie at all. I think he
was commenting on the first one and the fact that
he had to do a second one, and he, like
I said Friday, he just doesn't care what you think.
There's a lot going on there, none of it enjoyable.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
This film is made by someone who wanted to give
a big Mark Ronner in the face of the nerd culture.
I believe he wanted to give nerd culture a double
middle finger to say, blank you nerds, I'm gonna make
I'm gonna take a property that is cherished and valued
and ulture and character known by you all, and I'm
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gonna give it a scarceessy treatment, and I'm gonna make
it about nothing that you want to see, because I
want to make a film that, on the surface is
for nerds, but it's gonna chase off of you nerds around.
I don't want any fanboys watching my ode to nerdism.
This is an artistic piece, and I hope he knows
it's a piece of ish and that will go down
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in history on his resume.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let me ask you both the same question. If this
movie was just named from the very beginning Arthur Fleck
or some other psychotic thriller whatever, completely unrelated to any
comic book character, would that have changed your perception of
the movies?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Plural?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
The second film was just not a good film. Okay,
the second movie is just the story is not good.
This is not because I thought Joaquin things. I thought
his performance and his commitment to the role was uncanny.
I'm like, dude, you went through all that to bring
this character to life, Bravo. I didn't necessarily have a
problem with the singing. I didn't like the singing portrayal
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I was like, this is weird, even though it's supposed
to be. You know, similar to the first film, where
there were everything you saw happened when he was quote
unquote the Joker was in his mind. This film, all
these songs are in his mind, so that part the
scene wasn't even bad. But it's just a stupid, stupid movie,
and it flies in the face of everything you know
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about the quarter. If this film was called Arthur Fleck
the Story of a sad, Sad Clown, or if this
film was called Tears of the Tears of a Clown
play on the old song, yes, that may have worked,
and it would have made more sense the minute you
call this the Joker, and you, in some stupid way
try to connect this to Batman. Amen Burned, I hope
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a pox on your career, a pox on the craft services,
the costuming, anyone associated with this film, anyone who didn't
tell you no, shoot this mother.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I dig the spirit of your question.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But you can't separate it from Joker and call it
Arthur Fleck, because both movies are complete commentaries on the
things that they're meant to be.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If that makes sense to you, No, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I went in expecting a movie the first one, which
was executive produced by Michael uselin front of the show,
and it was connected to a Batman universe that was
explicit he was not the Joker, but a joker and
was meant to be perceived in that light.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And we got nothing of the kind.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And Twalla told me some things where they tried to
connect it to a known Batman universe. But I'm not
interested in seeing the movie. I wasn't then, definitely not now,
And I don't think I want to spend the time
to watch it for free or whatever it becomes available
for streaming, which might be in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
At this point, you never know, And it's a lot
of time and money to spend on a statement like
what I perceive was being made there. It's really I
mean picture of me given the double middle finger on
the road. That's like making a massive production out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, congratulations to uh, I don't know, to Todd Phillips,
he won't be getting an Oscar this time around?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What maybe?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
What not?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
River, I'm sorry, Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was his performance oscar worthy though that can be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You can have an oscar worthy performance in a bad movie.
His his character that he played.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I thought he was astoundingly good his portrayal of this
this sad, sad, pathetic man, and knowing what he looks
like and what he had to do to carry this out,
I'm like, he must have been on a water diet
for at least two three months before filming, because man,
he was really, really a tortured soul. I felt bad
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for him, but I was also suffering from secondhand embarrassment
from how bad the film was. I was like, man,
you did all this for a film that sucks this bad.
I mean, it can't be for the paycheck. Man, Why
why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
His performance is exhausting and I'm in the minority. He
won the Oscar for the first one, but I found
that so self indulgent. I couldn't wait to get out
of both movies. Hmmm, yeah, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
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Speaker 2 (08:30):
Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and Twalla
was so mad during the break It worked himself up
into this lofty, this frawley lather, and he has more
anger to share.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I forgot a couple of days and Mark, you mentioned
this happened in your theater while watching it. At several
moments while this film was showing, people got up to leave.
There was a group of like four people over to
the right. They were arguing about how bad it was.
They got up and left. Then like two other people,
like far in the front, they got left another song.
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Four other people left out of there. When I was
walking out of the theater, I forgot that there was
someone that was literally at the front box office, like
arguing to get their money back because they said, we
walked out of there, we didn't see the end, we
want our money back. That was a horrible, horrible experience.
And I was like, yeah, you know what I should
have I should have left it as for my money
back too. By the time the film was over, I'd
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say at least a quarter of the people that were
in there had walked out. The theater was damnar empty,
and the way when it like faded to black or
whatever the end, people ran out like someone had lit
off a fire in that theater. It was so egregiously bad.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of reports of that, and
if you look on Reddit and Twitter, you'll have a
lot of fodder for amusement.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So when are you going back to see it again?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I will never see anything with the name Todd Phillips
on it ever again. Damn anything with his name on it,
I will savage it sight unseen. I don't care if
he's doing the remake of The Running Man with who
Glenn Glynn Powell. If it says Todd Phillips, I will
burn that film down before it even comes out. What
do you think about that? The remake of Running Man?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean, yeah, Look, I know Richard Dawson's gone, but
Arnold is still here. And I don't think that that movie.
That movie is a cult classic on its own. I
don't need another version of it. I don't need an
updated version. I'm sorry, not with you, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
People love him, No, that's a no dog. I think
he's a good actor, but I don't think his screen
presence and personality are big enough. Look when I saw
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him in Twisters, he was fine when he was paired
with someone else, and I liked him in Top Gun,
But as of yet, I have not seen him as
a as a movie driving figure. I don't think he's
the next Tom Cruise or anything like that can be wrong,
but I don't see that as of yet.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Running Man, No.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, I don't want anyone to do running Man, It
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got a pair of tickets.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Hey, Stephan, I didn't give him a number. What numbers
should we choose? Let's do seven? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
If your caller number seven, pair of tickets are yours.
It's just that simple. We love giving away great things
and still we will be giving away passes again this
Friday during name that movie called Classic to come to
the pre Halloween sware The Lady with Mo Kelly pre
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visit us and hang with us in our very special
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studio for a celebration that is going to be Legenddariry
and it's going to be costumes, a bunch of costumes.
Mark is going to be a tutu or something like that.
He won't tell us exactly what it is. I'm going
to be dressed as a high functioning alcoholic. Okay, all right,
what do you got, crackhead?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
There you go. I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
No, we got to get to Wall of the complete
the theme. Yeah, I don't know. Something up his sleep.
He's very creative and inventive with his costumes. Mine has
to be functional and I can move around in it.
I see you in something furry No no no, no,
no no. In fact, I see you at furry conventions.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
No no, no, no, no no, I see you.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
There's a better chance to be at a brony convention
before I'm at a furry convention. Well you know I
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
I've told you about the numbers of coyotes and coyote
dens near my house, in my neighborhood. Around my neighborhood,
they'll come out in broad daylight. You especially see them
at night with our security cameras. You know, they're triggering
them every single night, and they're they're traveling in pacts.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's not one here.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'm talking about three and four at a time, and
I've shown twally.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You've seen the videos. It's not just.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Where I live, it's where Tawala lives and grew up.
Coyote sidings are up in Pasadena seventy percent this year,
and the Pasadena Public Health Department is urging community members
to take extra cautions to protect their families and their
pets from encounters.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
With this wildlife. Emphasis on wildlife.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
They are not dogs rolling the street, you know, they're
not pets and waiting.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They are wildlife.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They will kill your small child, they will kill your
small pet and eat them. And the only reason why
they're more comfortable coming out in the daytime is because
people keep feeding them and not running them down like
I recommend that you do.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Last night, on my way home, when I went out
to make a quick run coming back, I saw, for
some reason another I saw a cat was I was
at the corner about to turn up fair Oaks to
head to the house, and I looked across the street
and there was a cat coming outside and the cat froze.
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And I'm thinking to myself, I'm across the street, like,
there's no way I would get you cat. I'm having
a cat conversation because I'm thinking, so, oh, this is
a peculiar cat.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Why is the cat frozen like that?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Looking at my car, I just happened to turn to
the left to you know, look at oncoming traffic, and
I saw coyote on the corner staring at the cat
cross for this is a wide street, right, and I'm like, okay,
that coyote is about to run over and get that cat.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I did the right thing I did. I turned and
I chased that coyote down. I chased it away and
I saved that cat's life. And I come to find
out that there were two other coyote there in the waiting.
There was one behind the car, and one just all
packed animals, and I chased them as far as I could. Now,
if a dead animal ends up in our yard again,
we know that the coyotes are not only listening to KFI,
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but they remember my car.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Look. I get hate mail from folks who say you
should not be recommending that you should run down the coyotes.
That is inhumane.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You damn right, it's inhumane because they're not humans. Okay,
hit them with your car. And I'm not the only
one who agrees with this quote. Many of the juvenile
coyotes die due to vehicle strikes or starvation as they
search for their own territory or a new pack to join. Nonetheless,
the possibility of coyote activity and Pasadena neighborhoods increases during
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this time. In twenty twenty two, Pasadena received one hundred
and fifty nine calls for guarding coyotes, including a dozen
that ended in an injury or death of a pet.
If you come near my dogs, I promise you I'm
going to kill the coyote. There's no discussion to be had,
it's just guaranteed. Okay, if you come at my dogs,
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I'm going to kill everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
In your den.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm gonna kill any coyote that even looks like they
might be from den. If you're a kyote, you're dead.
Your whole family's dead. Your mother in law dead, your
coyote mother and brother and sister dead, all of them dead,
al Capone style dead.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Oh your coyote, Stalin or you kidding't kill their whole
school class?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Have you ever see the Untouchables? What do you think? Okay,
love it? Love it one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, but I when I talk about it, I talk
about it in a half way humorous way, but I'm
being serious. The coyotes are a menace and for whatever reasons,
the various cities, including where I live in La including Pasenita,
they have not done all they can to address this.
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While they can't now there's different services that you can
call and they'll put down this trap. It's like a
cage where they walk in the cage for the bait
and the closes behind them.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
A humane air quotes humane way to pick up.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The coyotes and they probably take them out to I
don't know, Victorville and drop them off there and let
them run around. Because if it's humane, they're not killing them,
so they have to let them go somewhere, or they
bring them up to Altadena or Pasadena.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Well, I keep seeing them because these coyotas, they look healthy,
they look fed, They do not look like they're out
there starving or missing any meals.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Well, I think it's a racket.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
In other words, where I live, we will call, they'll
bring out the traps, they'll trap them, and then they
probably drop them off in Pasadena and they get paid
for that. And then Pasadena will call and they pick
them up and they drop them back in my neighborhood
and they get paid for. They just keep shuttling them
back and forth, back and forth. You hear them when
they're with them all night long.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You hear them.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The scariest part is when you see them during the day.
You know there's something wrong. These are knockternal animals. They
are not three in the afternoon. Let me go out
for an afternoon store to find something to eat animals.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, it's either one or the other.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Either they're desperate, which is an issue, or they're very comfortable,
which is an issue. Because to your point, they shouldn't
be out there at three in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They should be scared of people. They're not. They're not.
They're going to be very scared of my new car. Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It has a high center of gravity. I can roll
over those mother fathers with these that's right, and just
keep on going. And it's like, was that a coyote?
Let me back up? Wait, I think that was a coyote.
Let me drive forward.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Maybe that was my neighbor's cat. Oh, it's the coyote.
True story, my next door neighbor. They do have a cat,
and a coyote bit off its tail, so now it
has no tail.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No true true story. Yeah, kill them dead. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I was just about to call you a blood thirsty
savage and then you said that, and now I'm on
your side.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
True story because I see and it's a cat that
goes wherever it wants, so then who knows where?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But it was it was definitely coyote.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And I'm actually surprised that coyotes can catch cats because cats,
I know coyotes can jump, but cats can really jump,
and they're really really fast and they're pretty aware of
their surroundings.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But coyotes are pretty good hunters. Well, the coyotes trick
them with ACME equipment.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That hair was feeling sympathy for the cat, and then
they had to go roadrunner and wiley coyote.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Sorry, at least you didn't make it weird. Nah, I
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I respect everything you say, Stephanie, got some crickets in
there or anything.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You're not going to get a rim shot that much,
I'm sure of. That was funny to me. No, it wasn't.
Don't humor him. I don't need your rim shot charity.
That was so funny, though the ACME.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Have you seen a coyote with a plunger for explosives? No,
I have not, not outside of I'm Warner Brothers and
I'm a rocket skates any rocket skates?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, no, nothing?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
No, okay, a brush and a can of black paint
for a cliff wall.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You just let me know when you're done. I'm going
to run to the bathroom. I'll be back, okay, No, no,
you go right ahead to the bathroom. Sure, okay, whatever, Well,
just number one.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Please.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now you're gonna limit what I can do with my
own body. Body autonomy doesn't mean anything to you.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Your body, your choice in the toilet Okay, there you go.
You had to make it weird.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
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Speaker 2 (22:39):
So I have a lot of shows that need to
catch up on My DVR is completely full. I don't
know what it means to watch a show when it
actually airs, be it streamed, or you know, when it
becomes available on streaming. If it's a broadcast television show,
when it comes down, like one of my favorite TV
shows and one of the you which are still on
(23:02):
broadcast television, the Chicago p D love that show. Great
start to the season this year, High Intensity, High Stakes.
I couldn't tell you what night of the week it
comes on. I have no idea. I think it's Wednesday, Thursday.
I honestly don't know. And I also watch Law and
Order SVU. You know, I like all the Dick Wolf shows,
(23:23):
and I'll catch up on those because I haven't seen
a couple of those episodes and I have to see
last night's I know it drops on Sundays. I have
to see last night's episode of Penguin, the Penguin or whatever,
the Penguin episode three. And that's another show. If they
didn't try to connect it to the Batman universe or
(23:43):
whatever and just called it Gangster oz Wald or something
like that. It would be a fine show. But each
time it tries to remind me that it's a part
of the Batman universe, it takes me completely out of it,
because this show doesn't make sense with any comic book
superhero character. Because everybody's grounded, everyone is real. There's nothing
(24:06):
really special about anyone, not the gangsters, not the police.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It looks like, it feels like, it tastes like New York,
nothing special about it. There's nothing that a Batman could
do in this Gotham nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
He would not make any difference.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Well, related to the conversation we had just a little
bit of ago about the Joker movies. I'm so sick
of movies and shows that are embarrassed of being sourced
from comic books. If you don't like comics, don't make
the show, don't make the movies. Stop wasting my time.
I don't need your statement about how this is some
sort of gritty mob show with no connection to the
(24:47):
Wow Wow Penguin. Just go make a crime show that
you want to make.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I completely agree with that just make a crime show,
call the characters something else. Don't try to bring the
comics into the natural world. Because superheroes, hello, they live
in a world in which we don't. There has to
be something fantastical about it. I mean, Batman is a
normal man, but he's not of normal means.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He is the greatest detective.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
He is superhuman in his intelligence that you can't make
a lot of these movies and TV shows fit that mold.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
What about Does it drive you nuts now to have
to actually wait each week for a new episode of
a show. I find that more and more. I'm waiting
for shows to be completely finished before I start them.
Then I can just chain watch them because right now
I'm watching Slow Horses and from and it's just agony
to wait for the new episode each week.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It is, and that's why I try to either on
Sunday nights or Monday nights watch a lot of shows
so I feel like have a good three four hour
block of television. It may not be one show, but
at least I could sit down and enjoy a lot
of media. Yes, I would much rather either binge or
wait till the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That's what we did with Hell on wheels. It's a
terrific sort of old post Civil War railroad, incredibly violent
Western show.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Just Chaine. Watch as much as you want.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I mean, it's a ten year old show, so you're
not gonna be current, but you don't have to just wait.
And also, I'm finding it harder and harder to remember
what happened from one week to the next, because you
remember the shows we grew up with, they were episodic.
They weren't a serial show that you had to remember
the plot every single week. It was a brand new
adventure and then you wipe the slate clean. It's a
(26:37):
new story next week.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And even though you know they have the quick review
and it's serialized, and if you don't watch them back
to back to back, it doesn't have the same impact.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
It just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And that's why I watched Game of Thrones near the end,
I watched Succession near the end. I watched most of
the Sopranos after the fact, because that's the best way.
On Ozark, I watched right before the last season. I
didn't watch any of those shows, and it was a
much better experience because I could I could follow along
(27:12):
much better.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
All of it was recent.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
In my mind, it felt like one long movie, which
made it more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Except for the very end. I didn't hate the ending.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I just felt it was incomplete, and it didn't. It
just told us that they got out of this situation.
It didn't tie up everything for me.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well, that is a problem for me with the serialized
shows is that not many of them managed to stick
the landing. I'm almost at the end of Evil, which
is a terrific show on CBS. I got one episode
to Coe Pardon Me, and I'm hearing mixed things about
the ending, and I almost don't want to watch it
for that reason, because I've still got the scars from Lost.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay, do you want me to make you jealous real quick?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Go ahead. Never heard of Michael Emerson, oh the bad Guy? Yeah? Yeah,
he's great. I like him.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
He's been on twice. You know, I was jealous of
you about Shatner already. You don't need me any more
jealous of you. You know who his wife is, right,
I forget her name. It's an actress though, as she
plays Elsbeth. Yeah that's right. Yeah, I mean, look, if
you make me any more jealous, I'm gonna start breaking
into your house and you'll find me sitting there in
the dark when you come home at night.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I just have to rub it in, you know, Carrie Preston, actress.
I just do that because I'm jealous of your George
Carlin and your Robert Downey junior interviews. I have to
get back at you somehow.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well you have.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I'll always be jealous of Shatner, Shatner and Adam West.
I never managed to interview Adam West, although I did
talk to Bert Ward while you were gone one week recently.
We're very lucky that we get to talk to these people,
especially older people, while they're still around.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I didn't get to talk to Adam West, but I
did get to speak to Julie Newmar.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I love her. Everybody loves her. Yeah, you'd be you'd
hate America not to love her.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, it's one thing to love, it's another thing to
be able to talk to her. And it was on
the occasion of Adam West's death that we spoke to her.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
As a matter of fact, it's been a while though
I was such a fan of Adam West. They showed
the nineteen sixty six Batman feature film at the cinerama
with West and Ward, and it was so it nearly
brought me to tears. I'm not exaggerating. It was such
a wonderful experience.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Maybe we need to like compile all of our Batman
related interviews and put them together. Get my Michael Eusland
and Julie Newmar, you get your Burt Ward and Adam West, and.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We'll just have a celebration.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I've had some contact with Eusland because he also wrote
for Dynamite at the same time I was. I think
he was doing some sort of pulp thing with like
the Shadow and the Avenger Duck or the Spider, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
He's amazingly talented. I like him. He's a fan. Yes,
I'm trying to get him in studio, but it would
be great.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So he doesn't have time for us. He's got Batman
business to take care. Look, he's been on three times,
he knows us, knows us well. You think he's gonna
schlep over here though, and be physically in the studio with.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Us, Yes, we are. We are that close. Serious.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm not bsing now, I'm being very serious. It's just
that we would have to avoid the whole joker to conversations.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, that's gonna get awkward, isn't it real awkward? Hoops
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