December 17, 2024 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the ‘Abundant Life Christian School’ mass-shooting in Madison, Wisconsin…PLUS – A look at the new National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rule requiring all passenger vehicles in the U.S. to have an alert if rear-seat passengers aren’t buckled up AND the overwhelming stench of sewage plaguing the City of El Segundo - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's Monday if I aim six forties later with mo
Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app got me an
offensive place today. Been in my own head all day long.
I thought my day was going to start one way.
Then all of a sudden or not so all of
a sudden, you can almost tell time by it, you
get another mass shooting and my day changed. Just to
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take you inside my world for a moment, I was
supposed to do a hit over as Spectrum News usually
mo Kelly Monday's we talk about politics. But I understand
how the news business works. Breaking news all scheduled program
out the windows. So my segment was, as they say,
blown out. They blew out my segment today because of
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the breaking news in Madison, Wisconsin. And I've been working
in i'll say news entertainment for the better part of
I don't know, twenty three years, and something I've learned.
There's some things that I've been told in there are
things that I've learned along the way. And I started
in news entertainment after the first, say, school mass shooting
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of Columbine. I was like in ninety nine. I started
maybe two thousand and one, and along the way, I
hit these benchmarks, and I started thinking, like, wow, these
these school shootings, these mass shootings, are becoming more and
more frequent. And by the time I started on Ktokam
eleven fifty back twenty eleven or so, I was thinking,
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are school shootings the new normal? Are we going to
get to the point where we will be emotionally unmoved
by mass shootings? That's what I was thinking back in
twenty eleven. That's before New Town. Okay, that's before we
really had a frequency, if you will, when it came
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to school shootings and young children dying. And I was thinking, well,
what would happen if we ever got to that point
where the new normal is mass shootings? And then that
time came and went nothing really changed. I thought maybe
if we got to a certain point, we would be
emotionally moved to do something didn't happen. And then I
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had a friend who gave me some unrelated yet related
advice and she said she was talking to me about
relationships and I was fighting with my then girlfriend at
the time, and she said, no, you just haven't had enough.
I said, what do you mean, I haven't had enough?
I'm tired of this And I said no, you're not.
She said, no, you're not mo because the moment you
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become really tired of it, you'll stop putting up with it,
you'll stop dealing with it. When you had enough, you
will have had enough. And I kind of apply that
to a lot of things in life. It was very,
very saying and prescient advice for that time in my life,
and I've applied it ever since. And I think about
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what's going on in this country with respect to mass shootings,
and we have not had enough.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm not sure we'll ever have enough.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
There won't be enough mass shootings to have us do
something other than thoughts and prayers. And there's another piece
of advice I got from someone unrelated to mass shootings,
but I think it's applicable even today. And he said
to me about something unrelated. He said, I can't care
more than you care about your stuff. I can't care
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more about let's say you getting paid, or you being healthy,
or you being a worthwhile citizen than you. Okay, you
have to care more than anyone in the world because
it has to be important to you for you to
make that change, be it diet, be it exercise, whatever
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it is. I can't care more than you. I can
want it for you, but I can't care more than you.
And those are the things that I think about today
each and every time we have a mass shooting, especially
on a high school campus or below.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Have we had enough yet? No, we haven't. There'll be others.
We've not had enough.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We've not had enough of our children dying in a
violent way.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Some weeks ago, we were saying, we need to have
Bibles in the schools.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
If we had Bibles in the schools, that would change everything.
We need to get America back to that, because this
supposedly is a Christian nation.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No it's not, and no it didn't. I'm quite sure.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm quite sure that the Abundant Life Christian School had
all the Bibles that you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
They were there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They probably even had the Ten Commandments on one wall,
two walls, ten walls. And I say this as a Christian,
I am not mocking Christianity, but I say it also
as a believer. And what's required of us as believers
is not tied to these physical displays of faith or Christianity.
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Faith without works is dead. You have to actually do something.
You can't pray your way through anything. And everything. You
can pray for guidance, and you get that guidance and
then you have marching orders, order thy steps. There's a
lot required of us, and we're doing absolutely nothing expecting
something to change.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Some people call that insanity. I just call it stupidity. Insanity.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
A person insane may not be aware of his own
or her own insanity. Sometimes people are insane. It just
don't realize it. This is stupidity. We realize we're clear
on this. We're completely aware of what's going on and
why it's not changing and why it's not improving. I'm
not here to tell you what that solution is, because honestly,
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you're not interested in a solution.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you're interested in a solution.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You know what, you would have done something by now,
You would have tried something else by now. But instead
we have thoughts, we have prayers, we have press conferences,
and we have funerals, and then the cycle starts all
over again. We'll have thoughts, we'll have prayers, we'll have funerals,
and there'll be another mass shooting and you're talking about
why is it this keeps happening? Well, we need to
have Bibles in the school. When we tried that, and
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guess what, that's not actually the solution. That is a
political statement in America in twenty twenty four. You're trying
to say to other peoples of how you want to
envision this country. No, no, no, no no. It's not about
bibles in the schools. It's about the bullets not being
in the schools. It's about the shooting's not being in
the schools. One doesn't prevent the other. One doesn't have
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anything to do with the other. We we are the
head and not the tail. We are responsible for what
happens in this country on some level. And if we
don't do anything, if we don't try anything, well, the
same thing is gonna happen tomorrow and the next day,
in the next day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't know. I remember I was on the air
twelve remembers to two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I remember when we were on the air when we
had the new Town tragedy, the mass shooting, and I remember, sorry, twelve,
I got to call you out here. I remember your
kids were the same age, your your daughter was the
same age yep as those children who were murdered. Yes, indeed,
and not a g damn thing. And I mean that,
not a g damn thing has changed since then. So
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let me just say this and you can take it
any way you want. We have not had enough. I
can't want this more for America than you. You clearly
don't want it. This is Later with Mo Kelly k
if I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the
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Speaker 3 (07:52):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's that's pretty hot there, Stefan. We're going to do
a seat belt story and now it was the best
you could come up with. That was the best you
could come up with. Not it slapped.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That was your.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Best foot forward, something between the Baby Shark song and
the Sesame Street theme. That's the best you could do
to set the tone the mood for this moment.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's easy to remember.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh, it is catchy. Put on your seat belt right now,
right now, your.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Seat Yeah, that does slap down.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is catchy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, the reason why we have that bumper is the
United States is going to require passenger vehicles to sound
alarms if rear passengers don't fasten their seatbelts. Start again
in September of twenty twenty seven. It's not right around
the corner, but soon all new passenger vehicles in the
US will have to sound a warning if rear seat
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passengers don't buckle up. My car is a twenty twenty five.
It already does. It's not something that I would have
had to change. But cars, I say have to say.
Car manufacturers are already doing it on sub level. Depending
on making model, it's not going to be a huge change.
Your car may do it right now if it's a
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late model car. I know Hondas have been doing it
since twenty twenty two, and depending on your maker, they
may already do it now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
They're just formalizing it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The NHTSA said that it would that it finalized the rule,
which also requires enhanced warnings when front seat belts aren't fastened.
In my car, which is a Honda CRV, it has
a visual indicator. It has like a you ever try
to get seats on an airplane and it'll show you
like that diagram where all the seats are same thing
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in my car except as led, and they show like
a green zero if like almost like tik tac toe
if someone's sitting in the seat, and a red ex
if someone does not and it also lets you know
visually and audibly if someone has not put on their
seatbelt and the car is moving.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Same, so we're already there. We don't have to worry
about it.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Okay, does your car alert you when you stop and
you're about to get out, Does it also alert you
to check the back kids left sat?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yes, And it can feel like if you put a
box in the back seat, it feels the weight, so
they know the car knows that something is back there.
And whenever I get out of the car, it always
gives me this message because it's always in my business.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's almost like it's a spouse, just nagging in your
check the back seat. Check the back seat.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
My car will vibrate if I go too long leg.
So if I'm pulling out the driveway and I don't
buckle right away and I'm not trying to get and
get them moving, and I don't buckle before I hit
the main street, my car will actually start to shake.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's all those haptic feedback.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, it will give like a bit of a like
put on your seat belt.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I have an audible tone that just it is annoying.
It's an intentionally annoying tones.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's like danger, well Robinson, danger, danger. So it's gonna
make you put on the seatbelt. And I think it
starts like maybe ten seconds after the cars put in drive.
It's not immediate, but shortly thereafter. And yes, it's going
to shame you. It is going to annoy you into
putting on the seatbelt.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Let me connect this back to what I was talking
about last segment with the shooting in Madison, Wisconsin. Society changes,
society evolves. There's never been a time in which we
haven't evolved towards safety. There's never been a time in
which we haven't. I'm old enough to remember. I know
Mark is old enough to remember, and I know you're
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old enough to remember. Twalla could even Mark Runner old
enough to remember a time when nobody wore seat belts.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You could get into those cars, they'd have those bench seats.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's a bench not even bucket seats, a bench seat,
no seatbelt. And I remember playing with my cars in
the back seat, just laid just spread out in the
back seat across the whole bench yep. And then all
of a sudden, and I'm not being serious, because it
wasn't all of a sudden, it was over amount of time.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Laws change.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
People had to wear seat belts, and you can look
up the videos on YouTube. People were mad. They were insists,
how dare you? This is America? The freedom I should
have the right to be able to drive without putting
on a seat belt. Stay out of my car. I
remember this as clear as day. I remember when they
started requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets. The response was exactly
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the same. I remember on a private level, when the
NHL started requiring players to wear helmets, people got incense
talking about freedom.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know, we should be able to do what we want.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The only point I'm making is historically society has always
trended towards safety, and according to the nt H excuse me,
the NHTSA, some fifty people would be saved per year.
That's the agency's estimate, and would prevent five hundred injuries
when fully in effect according to their math and research.
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Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I don't
know how accurate numbers wise, but I do know more
safety usually means fewer deaths. I can't quantify it, but generally,
more safety, fewer deaths. More people wear seatbelts, fewer people
who get killed, and less likely to be ejected from
the car. I can't give you the specific numbers, but
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I'm pretty sure i'm right.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
As an ex Copspeed reporter, I can back you up
on that. Okay, thank you very much, Mark Ronner. Stefan's
no help, but Mark, thank you for being helpful.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
These are the things that which just confounds me regarding
gun violence in America. We have no desire, no compunction,
no will at all to do anything to make anyone safer.
And eventually someone you know and love is going to
die because of gun violence. And I'm not saying they
need to go round up all the guns. I could
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hear your hate mail as you're typing it out right now.
I never said that, I never thought that. I never
advocated that. But we are insane with this predilection and
obsession with guns.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is insane.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And eventually you will know what it feels like to
lose someone to unnecessary gun violence. You will, maybe just
because I come from a different place to all, it
comes from a different place.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We just we just know about that. We're not serious,
we don't care about safety.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm quite sure people are typing out angry emails right
now about how dare they tell my passengers in the
back seat to put on a seat belt? Keep the
government out of my g damn car. I know somewhere
you are typing that email, that tweet, not on Twitter,
slash x anymore, so I won't see it or that
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thread or something. Because you want to get to me
and give me a piece of your mind. That's fine.
I've heard it all before. But I'm not going to
apologize for wanting more people to live.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know, I don't remember the last time I got
in my car, started it and did not put on
my seat.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Belt and actually went anywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I'm not talking about pulling the car out of the
garage into the driveway so I can wash it. I'm
talking about going somewhere on a street. I don't think
that I have done it consciously in at least twenty
five years, no exaggeration. Cops always tell you they never
had to unbuckle a corpse. Well, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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Certain things are easier than we want to make them.
They really are easier, don't you think most sometimes that
the defining trait of American exceptionalism is just sheer petulance.
We don't like being told what to do, even if
it's to save our lives. Yes, yes, petulance obstinates ignorance.
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We pride ourselves collectively Americans is doing things our way,
even to our own detriment.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're going to learn.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And you know, my mother we used to tell me,
you know, a hard head makes a soft ass.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, no, I'm being serious. Yeah, that your household wark. No,
I like that. I'm gonna use that. You've never heard that? Wow? No,
whoa I say that to this day. I repeat that. Okay,
you're like maybe one third black. Okay, we're taking a
little bit of wet.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
This is part of my ongoing tutelage to become the
rest of the way black.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Now, you know, my mom would say hard head makes
a soft behind. My father would say hard head makes
a soft ass. Because sometimes you're so obstinate, you're going
to do bring things on yourself and put yourselves in
situations and you're going to suffer difficulties and go through
things unnecessarily because you don't like they say, common sense
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ain't all that common. They're all coming out tonight we
don't want to use common sense.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I want that on one of those knit samplers in
a frame in the house. A hard head makes a
soft ass.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's good. You almost sexualized it, didn't you. Yeah? I
kind of did, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
When we come back, Stephan and I are going to
weigh in together.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He doesn't even know this. I'm just telling him right now.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
If you live in and around Elsa Gundo, you might
have noticed that it has a peculiar odor that dates
back years and it's not going away, and it smells
like ass.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm not no, I'm being serious. It's like smells like
raw sewage. Have we exceeded our asked quotion? We got
ten more? Okay, got ten more?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Just checking or at least until someone says something, and
no one said anything, so it might be more. All right,
you bet your ass. Kf I AM six forty we're
live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You gotta love Elsagundo And if you've been to Elsa Gundo,
it is adjacent to anything and everything. It's right next
to Manhattan Beach. It's right next to Lawndale. It's right
next to Gardena and Inglewood. When they say something is
centrally located, Elsa Gundo is a perfectly situated city area.
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You can get to the beach very quickly. You can
get downtown rather quickly. You got two main arteries. You
can hit the four or five, or we drive a
little bit further, you can hit the one ten or
the one oh five. It is a good place to live,
but the smell not so much. Let's go back to
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July twenty twenty one. That's when major failures at the
nearby Hyperion Water Reclamation plant dumped millions of gallons and
I mean millions of gallons of untreated sewage.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know what that means. Untreated sewage?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, raw dukie, untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay. Remember
how we always talk about how the beaches are contaminated.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, this is what we mean. This is exactly what
we mean.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay and least high levels
of hydrogen sulfide which smells like ace. Mark Runner doesn't
want me to say the other words, you cut loose.
It smells like ace and could cause health issues that
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was July of twenty twenty one. We're about three almost
three and a half years later, and the odors are
still there now.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
For me, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Smell it every day, and I'm in Elsa Gundo fairly often,
like the Spectrum TV studios over there, so I'll be
there at least once or twice a week and just
driving around to my dogs to get groomed. They get
groomed and Elsa Gundo, so I'm there frequently enough to get.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
A good whiff.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I can't speak for Stephan, He's gonna speak for
himself in a second, but I know I smell it
off and on. I don't smell it all the time.
I don't have a very strong sense of smell due
to head injury. Long story, sad story, very very sad.
But when I do smell it, it's punching and it
cuts right through and I'm reminded what happened in July
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of twenty twenty one. And there are a lot of
El Segundo residents who have been complaining for years now
as to why this is still an issue because El
Segundo residents were originally told it should be fine in
a couple of days, maybe a few weeks, let's even.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Say a month or two.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Now we're into like a year or three or four,
and it still smells horrible, not all the time, but
not that I'm a scientist. I'm thinking since it's intermittent,
it probably ebbs and flows with the amount of waste
water that the hyperion a reclamation plant has to deal with.
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And there's some days and some weeks some months where
we're using a bathroom a little bit more than others,
and that problem has to do with it because the hyperion,
what a recogmation plant, is one of the most important
ones in the area, and from what I understand, it
is being overworked. It's being used in ways which is
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probably exceeding its capacity. Now I can't validate or verify it,
but that's the only way I can explain it in
my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Stephen, you live in the same area. Do you smell it?
And if so, how often?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Kind of like what you said, it's basically kind of
on and off, but when.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It hits it, it hits hard.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
And yeah, I was gonna say the the implants or
the refineries right there. So that's like it's nothing new
because I had a lot. I went to school out
there for a little while, and I also had friends
that lived in there, and they they even called it
back then smell Segundo because they're just like you know,
and so like on MYCE basically would put that as
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theirs their location, and so it's like, yeah, it's nothing new,
but it's yeah, it's it's on and off, and especially
it's almost like it harbors in one part of the
air and then once you drive a little bit further, it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Goes away again. I smell, I smell less when I'm
the more I drive inland. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hyperion is always telling me about the largest wastewater treatment
facility west of the Rockies. It's a big deal. It's
it's importance is huge. It sprawls across two hundred acres
of ocean front LA and sits just outside the city
limits of El Segundo. But here's what's most important. Every
single day, four million people and and that's within LA
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and twenty nine other cities outside of LA, including El Segundo,
flush a quarter billion gallons of wastewater dookie into Hyperion's
treatment tanks every single day. A quarter billion gallons of
wastewater into high period. Clearly, it's exceeding capacity. That's what
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I think. That's why we're getting the overflow. That's why
we're getting the beach bacteria alerts all year long. That's
why I think that the smell is intermittent. We're not
using the bathroom as much on certain days, or it's
able to process more wastewater on certain days and less
on others, and so we have yet to find some
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sort of solution or stop gap measure to help us
deal with this wastewater. It's got to go somewhere. It's
got to go somewhere, and it smells like it's going nowhere.
It smells like it's just sitting there. If you wonder
why the city of Elsegundo smells like ace, this is why.
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This is why people are flushing too much, and it
has nowhere to go. The city of Elseagundo is constipated.
All of it's backed up, nowhere to go. The city
needs a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Like a ruter. Damn you, Stefan, that was all Stephan.
Can you at least say excuse me, it's just so rude.
Excuse me, thank you?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You can you a least close the door now too,
You know, I don't know why you felt the need
to actually put your ace next to the microphone for
that sound effect? Could you like find one on YouTube?
But no, you had to have the authenticity. It would
take too long to find a sound effect. But you
know they can't smell it, so you might as well
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just take the extra five or six seconds and find it.
Other people got to use that microphone, you know that, right,
that's true. I'll clean it up during the break. Yeah,
that's what they always say. It's later with mokel I can't.
I Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
And if you ever wondered, I know you've wondered, but
if you thought about the real reason as to why
you're supposed to put your phone on airplay, there's plenty
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of conspiracy theories and alternative explanations as to why we
do it. Well, there is a pilot who has gone
viral for giving his definitive explanation as to why we
are forced to put our phones on airplane mode and
what happens if and when you don't put your phone
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on airplane mode. We're going to play that for you
next when we come back.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We've all wondered, or at least I have wondered.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I suspect you've Wondered's like, do I really need to
turn my phone off or put it on airplane mode
just because we're backing away? Do we really have to
and ask the question? And some people will say, well,
I'm going to be defiant. I'm going to leave my
phone on and see what happens. And maybe nothing happened.
You said, See, it's all a conspiracy. It's just another
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way to control us as Americans. We're free here in
this country. We shouldn't have to put our phones on
airplane mode. It's just a way to make us buy
that that crappy internet and spend another fifteen dollars. That's
what I believe, just to make you spend more money,
which could be part of it, but it's not all
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of it. But I found this clip which went viral,
and if this were a Wednesday, I'm quite sure Tiffty
Hobbs of the viral load would be talking about it.
A pilot calmly, thoroughly and completely answered any question as
to why you and I are supposed to put our
phone on airplay mode when we're flying.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
This is just a friendly pisa that the airplane mode
button on your phone is not a conspiracy, so you
forget to put your phone on airplane mode. No, it's
not the in the world that the plane will not
fall out of the sky and it won't even mess
with the systems on board. However, it does have the
potential to mess with the headsets. If you have an
aircraft with seventy eighty one hundred and fifty people on board,
and even three or four people's phones start to try
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to make a connection to a radio tower for an
incoming phone call, it sends out radio waves. There's the
potential that those radio waves can interfere with the radio
waves of the headset that the pilots are using. Last
night in San Francisco, we had pushed off the gate,
we were talking to the rampers, we disconnected from the tug,
started the engines, and then once we got the plane
turned around, we started headed towards the taxiways and I
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called up ground to get our clearances to which direction
we had to go. And as soon as we start
getting the directions, there's like this really annoying buzz going
through the headset, and it kind of sounds like there's
a mosquito in my ear. Like I said, it's not
end of the world, but it's definitely pretty annoying when
you're trying to copy down instructions and it sounds like
there's just like a wasp or something flying around you.
So if you're ever curious why I got to put
on airplane mode, that's why.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Okay, it could it interfere with the communications between the
pilot and the tower, be it on the ground or
possibly in the air, that is a good enough explanation
for me.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I have, though not intentionally.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I have, though accidentally, being honest, accidentally not put my
phone on airplane mode for the course of a flight.
Forget or you don't push the button, or may have
been de selected during the flight. I don't know, but
I've landed once and I realized, oh, it was on
the whole flight. Did I get any texts?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Did I get any messages No?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But I have to assume my phone was trying to
connect during that time which we were flying. So hopefully
I didn't cause any type of problem for the pilots.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But you would think at.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
This point that our ground communications or the communications between
the tower and the and the plane would be on
a different type of frequency system or wave system where
they're not using something which could be impacted by a
bad actor in that way.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's what I'm thinking, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Thinking like, if you know, let's let's on a plane
again now, boom, that you already knew this, and you're
a bad actor and you wanted to create some sort
of chaos or make it difficult for pilots to communicate,
this might be a way to do that. It could
cause a problem. Even if it's only a nuisance, it's
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still a problem. And if you have bad intentions, well
what if you amplified that in some way.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
This is just a friendly pisa that the airplane mode
button on your phone is not a conspiracy. So if
you forget to put your phone on airplane mode, no,
it's not in the world that the plane will not
fall out of the sky and it won't even mess
with the systems on board.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Okay, because that's what happened to me.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I forgot to put mine on airplane mode, and as
it turned out, I'm here now, So the plane did
not fall out of the sky. But I've always heard
that it can mess with I'll say, the instruments or
the communication. It can impact what the pilots do. To
what degree.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I couldn't tell you, but this pilot is telling us
to what degree.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
However, it does have the potential to mess with that headsets.
If you have an aircraft with seventy eighty, one hundred
and fifty people on board, and even three or four
people's phones start to try to make a connection to
a radio tower three or four.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Three or four and it's not a lot. Now, think
about someone who wants to amplify that signal, and.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Even three or four people's phones start to try to
make a connection to a radio tower for an incoming
phone call, it sends out radio waves. There's the potential
that those radio waves can interfere with the radio waves
of the headset that the pilots are using. Last night
in San Francisco, we had pushed off the gate, we
were talking to the rampers, we disconnected from the tug,
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started the engines, and then once we got the plane
turned around, we started headed towards the taxiways and I
called up ground to get our clearances to which direction
we had to go, and as soon as we start
getting the directions, there's like this really annoying buzz going
through the headset and it kind of sounds like there's
a mosquito in my ear. Like I said, it's not
end of the world, but it's definitely pretty annoying when
you're trying to copy that instructions and it sounds like
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there's just like a wasp or something flying around you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Tulla, When I went to DC not too long ago,
there was this story. I don't know if you saw it,
I briefly mentioned it. There's this story about I think
it was a United Airlines plane leaving Honolulu and almost
went to the side of a mountain because of a
miscommunication between the plane and ground control, the tower or
something like that. Now, I don't know what the truth
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is as far as whose fault it was, but if
something like that could happen due to a miscommunication on
any level, then I'm not going to rule out the
possibility that there may have been interference which could have
impacted instructions or what was received or how it was interpreted.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah, well, absolutely there are still questions surrounding the charter
plane that went down heading over.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
To what is the island demit? It just went there,
not the island of misfits.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What's the name of them? Mark the Catalina set up
blake out No. And when I saw that that was
right after we went and they said that there was
interference and that the pilot chance are with the way
the plane hit is that there was some level of
interference that made us that the pilot couldn't tell what
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the what the difference between the ground and the landing,
So all that was messed up. And I thought to myself,
what were they doing on that plane? Were they taking selfies?
I thought then that it had to have done with
maybe someone on the on that plane taking selfies or
on their phone or something. To see this right now,
I would look, I'm gonna mail my phone to wherever
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it is I'm going from now.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I found it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
This was November fifteenth, a month ago today almost an
American Airlines flight nearly crashed into a mountain range in Hawaii,
but escaped tragedy when it was ordered to rapidly gain altitude.
LA bound Flight two ninety eight had just taken on
from Honolulu at twelve thirty am Wednesday, when the air
traffic controller ordered the crew to expedite your cloud quote
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unquote meaning quickly as sin to avoid danger. And this
they actually had the audio. I don't have time to
pull it, but there was communication involved. The dramatic elevation gain,
which came after the pilot failed to make a turn
following takeoff, likely prevented the plane from slamming into the
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mountain range on the Island of Wahoo, according to officials.
So there was some miscommunication, some lack of communication, something
which could have ended in tragedy. And like I always said, well,
my sister was working for LAX. There's a lot of
stuff that you just never hear about which could have
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been tragic. But sometimes it just doesn't make it to
the news. It doesn't make it to the person who's
going to inform the news. And just because American Airlines
didn't want this story out there, they would never want
this story out there. Someone wrote protocol or like could
have been a passenger and said, hey, we almost hit
a mountain. You need to look into this, and that's
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how the information gets out. There are a lot of
problems which never see the light of day, are not.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Communicated to the public.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
And that's why I've always been skittish about flying, because
they're just things that I know that just never see
the light of day. And so when I hear that
about how your phone can possibly impact communication, it doesn't
take much, at least from where I'm sitting for something
to go terribly wrong. So I'll just go ahead and
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keep my phone off because it's not going to be
because of me. In the off chance the unlikelihood, like
they always say in the unlikely event of a water landing,
well they say unlikely because it's happened before.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's not impossible.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They didn't say in the impossible event of a water landing.
They said in the unlikely. No, what is unlikely unlikely
is me going to pasta thon and catching COVID's Like
Mark Ronner, that was the unlikely event, but you know
what it happened, and Mark Runner will never let us
live it down, never ever.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Kind of a far reach to drag me into this.
I know who the heavy.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Lift, But I was successful, okay if I am since
forty nice work.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
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Two Los Angeles, Orange County live everywhere on the radio,
It's Monday if I aim six forties later with mo
Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app got me an
offensive place today. Been in my own head all day long.
I thought my day was going to start one way.
Then all of a sudden or not so all of
a sudden, you can almost tell time by it, you
get another mass shooting and my day changed. Just to
(00:45):
take you inside my world for a moment, I was
supposed to do a hit over as Spectrum News usually
mo Kelly Monday's we talk about politics. But I understand
how the news business works. Breaking news all scheduled program
out the windows. So my segment was, as they say,
blown out. They blew out my segment today because of
(01:06):
the breaking news in Madison, Wisconsin. And I've been working
in i'll say news entertainment for the better part of
I don't know, twenty three years, and something I've learned.
There's some things that I've been told in there are
things that I've learned along the way. And I started
in news entertainment after the first, say, school mass shooting
(01:29):
of Columbine. I was like in ninety nine. I started
maybe two thousand and one, and along the way, I
hit these benchmarks, and I started thinking, like, wow, these
these school shootings, these mass shootings, are becoming more and
more frequent. And by the time I started on Ktokam
eleven fifty back twenty eleven or so, I was thinking,
(01:50):
are school shootings the new normal? Are we going to
get to the point where we will be emotionally unmoved
by mass shootings? That's what I was thinking back in
twenty eleven. That's before New Town. Okay, that's before we
really had a frequency, if you will, when it came
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to school shootings and young children dying. And I was thinking, well,
what would happen if we ever got to that point
where the new normal is mass shootings? And then that
time came and went nothing really changed. I thought maybe
if we got to a certain point, we would be
emotionally moved to do something didn't happen. And then I
(02:37):
had a friend who gave me some unrelated yet related
advice and she said she was talking to me about
relationships and I was fighting with my then girlfriend at
the time, and she said, no, you just haven't had enough.
I said, what do you mean, I haven't had enough?
I'm tired of this And I said no, you're not.
She said, no, you're not mo because the moment you
(02:58):
become really tired of it, you'll stop putting up with it,
you'll stop dealing with it. When you had enough, you
will have had enough. And I kind of apply that
to a lot of things in life. It was very,
very saying and prescient advice for that time in my life,
and I've applied it ever since. And I think about
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what's going on in this country with respect to mass shootings,
and we have not had enough.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm not sure we'll ever have enough.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
There won't be enough mass shootings to have us do
something other than thoughts and prayers. And there's another piece
of advice I got from someone unrelated to mass shootings,
but I think it's applicable even today. And he said
to me about something unrelated. He said, I can't care
more than you care about your stuff. I can't care
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more about let's say you getting paid, or you being healthy,
or you being a worthwhile citizen than you. Okay, you
have to care more than anyone in the world because
it has to be important to you for you to
make that change, be it diet, be it exercise, whatever
(04:13):
it is. I can't care more than you. I can
want it for you, but I can't care more than you.
And those are the things that I think about today
each and every time we have a mass shooting, especially
on a high school campus or below.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Have we had enough yet? No, we haven't. There'll be others.
We've not had enough.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We've not had enough of our children dying in a
violent way.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Some weeks ago, we were saying, we need to have
Bibles in the schools.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
If we had Bibles in the schools, that would change everything.
We need to get America back to that, because this
supposedly is a Christian nation.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No it's not, and no it didn't. I'm quite sure.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm quite sure that the Abundant Life Christian School had
all the Bibles that you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
They were there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They probably even had the Ten Commandments on one wall,
two walls, ten walls. And I say this as a Christian,
I am not mocking Christianity, but I say it also
as a believer. And what's required of us as believers
is not tied to these physical displays of faith or Christianity.
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Faith without works is dead. You have to actually do something.
You can't pray your way through anything. And everything. You
can pray for guidance, and you get that guidance and
then you have marching orders, order thy steps. There's a
lot required of us, and we're doing absolutely nothing expecting
something to change.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Some people call that insanity. I just call it stupidity. Insanity.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
A person insane may not be aware of his own
or her own insanity. Sometimes people are insane. It just
don't realize it. This is stupidity. We realize we're clear
on this. We're completely aware of what's going on and
why it's not changing and why it's not improving. I'm
not here to tell you what that solution is, because honestly,
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you're not interested in a solution.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you're interested in a solution.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You know what, you would have done something by now,
You would have tried something else by now. But instead
we have thoughts, we have prayers, we have press conferences,
and we have funerals, and then the cycle starts all
over again. We'll have thoughts, we'll have prayers, we'll have funerals,
and there'll be another mass shooting and you're talking about
why is it this keeps happening? Well, we need to
have Bibles in the school. When we tried that, and
(06:35):
guess what, that's not actually the solution. That is a
political statement in America in twenty twenty four. You're trying
to say to other peoples of how you want to
envision this country. No, no, no, no no. It's not about
bibles in the schools. It's about the bullets not being
in the schools. It's about the shooting's not being in
the schools. One doesn't prevent the other. One doesn't have
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anything to do with the other. We we are the
head and not the tail. We are responsible for what
happens in this country on some level. And if we
don't do anything, if we don't try anything, well, the
same thing is gonna happen tomorrow and the next day,
in the next day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't know. I remember I was on the air
twelve remembers to two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I remember when we were on the air when we
had the new Town tragedy, the mass shooting, and I remember, sorry, twelve,
I got to call you out here. I remember your
kids were the same age, your your daughter was the
same age yep as those children who were murdered. Yes, indeed,
and not a g damn thing. And I mean that,
not a g damn thing has changed since then. So
(07:36):
let me just say this and you can take it
any way you want. We have not had enough. I
can't want this more for America than you. You clearly
don't want it. This is Later with Mo Kelly k
if I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's that's pretty hot there, Stefan. We're going to do
a seat belt story and now it was the best
you could come up with. That was the best you
could come up with. Not it slapped.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That was your.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Best foot forward, something between the Baby Shark song and
the Sesame Street theme. That's the best you could do
to set the tone the mood for this moment.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's easy to remember.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh, it is catchy. Put on your seat belt right now,
right now, your.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Seat Yeah, that does slap down.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is catchy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, the reason why we have that bumper is the
United States is going to require passenger vehicles to sound
alarms if rear passengers don't fasten their seatbelts. Start again
in September of twenty twenty seven. It's not right around
the corner, but soon all new passenger vehicles in the
US will have to sound a warning if rear seat
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passengers don't buckle up. My car is a twenty twenty five.
It already does. It's not something that I would have
had to change. But cars, I say have to say.
Car manufacturers are already doing it on sub level. Depending
on making model, it's not going to be a huge change.
Your car may do it right now if it's a
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late model car. I know Hondas have been doing it
since twenty twenty two, and depending on your maker, they
may already do it now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
They're just formalizing it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The NHTSA said that it would that it finalized the rule,
which also requires enhanced warnings when front seat belts aren't fastened.
In my car, which is a Honda CRV, it has
a visual indicator. It has like a you ever try
to get seats on an airplane and it'll show you
like that diagram where all the seats are same thing
(09:57):
in my car except as led, and they show like
a green zero if like almost like tik tac toe
if someone's sitting in the seat, and a red ex
if someone does not and it also lets you know
visually and audibly if someone has not put on their
seatbelt and the car is moving.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Same, so we're already there. We don't have to worry
about it.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Okay, does your car alert you when you stop and
you're about to get out, Does it also alert you
to check the back kids left sat?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yes, And it can feel like if you put a
box in the back seat, it feels the weight, so
they know the car knows that something is back there.
And whenever I get out of the car, it always
gives me this message because it's always in my business.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's almost like it's a spouse, just nagging in your
check the back seat. Check the back seat.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
My car will vibrate if I go too long leg.
So if I'm pulling out the driveway and I don't
buckle right away and I'm not trying to get and
get them moving, and I don't buckle before I hit
the main street, my car will actually start to shake.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's all those haptic feedback.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, it will give like a bit of a like
put on your seat belt.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I have an audible tone that just it is annoying.
It's an intentionally annoying tones.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's like danger, well Robinson, danger, danger. So it's gonna
make you put on the seatbelt. And I think it
starts like maybe ten seconds after the cars put in drive.
It's not immediate, but shortly thereafter. And yes, it's going
to shame you. It is going to annoy you into
putting on the seatbelt.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Let me connect this back to what I was talking
about last segment with the shooting in Madison, Wisconsin. Society changes,
society evolves. There's never been a time in which we
haven't evolved towards safety. There's never been a time in
which we haven't. I'm old enough to remember. I know
Mark is old enough to remember, and I know you're
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old enough to remember. Twalla could even Mark Runner old
enough to remember a time when nobody wore seat belts.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You could get into those cars, they'd have those bench seats.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's a bench not even bucket seats, a bench seat,
no seatbelt. And I remember playing with my cars in
the back seat, just laid just spread out in the
back seat across the whole bench yep. And then all
of a sudden, and I'm not being serious, because it
wasn't all of a sudden, it was over amount of time.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Laws change.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
People had to wear seat belts, and you can look
up the videos on YouTube. People were mad. They were insists,
how dare you? This is America? The freedom I should
have the right to be able to drive without putting
on a seat belt. Stay out of my car. I
remember this as clear as day. I remember when they
started requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets. The response was exactly
(12:49):
the same. I remember on a private level, when the
NHL started requiring players to wear helmets, people got incense
talking about freedom.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know, we should be able to do what we want.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The only point I'm making is historically society has always
trended towards safety, and according to the nt H excuse me,
the NHTSA, some fifty people would be saved per year.
That's the agency's estimate, and would prevent five hundred injuries
when fully in effect according to their math and research.
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Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I don't
know how accurate numbers wise, but I do know more
safety usually means fewer deaths. I can't quantify it, but generally,
more safety, fewer deaths. More people wear seatbelts, fewer people
who get killed, and less likely to be ejected from
the car. I can't give you the specific numbers, but
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I'm pretty sure i'm right.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
As an ex Copspeed reporter, I can back you up
on that. Okay, thank you very much, Mark Ronner. Stefan's
no help, but Mark, thank you for being helpful.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
These are the things that which just confounds me regarding
gun violence in America. We have no desire, no compunction,
no will at all to do anything to make anyone safer.
And eventually someone you know and love is going to
die because of gun violence. And I'm not saying they
need to go round up all the guns. I could
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hear your hate mail as you're typing it out right now.
I never said that, I never thought that. I never
advocated that. But we are insane with this predilection and
obsession with guns.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is insane.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And eventually you will know what it feels like to
lose someone to unnecessary gun violence. You will, maybe just
because I come from a different place to all, it
comes from a different place.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We just we just know about that. We're not serious,
we don't care about safety.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm quite sure people are typing out angry emails right
now about how dare they tell my passengers in the
back seat to put on a seat belt? Keep the
government out of my g damn car. I know somewhere
you are typing that email, that tweet, not on Twitter,
slash x anymore, so I won't see it or that
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thread or something. Because you want to get to me
and give me a piece of your mind. That's fine.
I've heard it all before. But I'm not going to
apologize for wanting more people to live.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know, I don't remember the last time I got
in my car, started it and did not put on
my seat.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Belt and actually went anywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I'm not talking about pulling the car out of the
garage into the driveway so I can wash it. I'm
talking about going somewhere on a street. I don't think
that I have done it consciously in at least twenty
five years, no exaggeration. Cops always tell you they never
had to unbuckle a corpse. Well, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
(16:21):
Certain things are easier than we want to make them.
They really are easier, don't you think most sometimes that
the defining trait of American exceptionalism is just sheer petulance.
We don't like being told what to do, even if
it's to save our lives. Yes, yes, petulance obstinates ignorance.
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We pride ourselves collectively Americans is doing things our way,
even to our own detriment.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're going to learn.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And you know, my mother we used to tell me,
you know, a hard head makes a soft ass.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, no, I'm being serious. Yeah, that your household wark. No,
I like that. I'm gonna use that. You've never heard that? Wow? No,
whoa I say that to this day. I repeat that. Okay,
you're like maybe one third black. Okay, we're taking a
little bit of wet.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
This is part of my ongoing tutelage to become the
rest of the way black.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Now, you know, my mom would say hard head makes
a soft behind. My father would say hard head makes
a soft ass. Because sometimes you're so obstinate, you're going
to do bring things on yourself and put yourselves in
situations and you're going to suffer difficulties and go through
things unnecessarily because you don't like they say, common sense
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ain't all that common. They're all coming out tonight we
don't want to use common sense.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I want that on one of those knit samplers in
a frame in the house. A hard head makes a
soft ass.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's good. You almost sexualized it, didn't you. Yeah? I
kind of did, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
When we come back, Stephan and I are going to
weigh in together.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He doesn't even know this. I'm just telling him right now.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
If you live in and around Elsa Gundo, you might
have noticed that it has a peculiar odor that dates
back years and it's not going away, and it smells
like ass.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm not no, I'm being serious. It's like smells like
raw sewage. Have we exceeded our asked quotion? We got
ten more? Okay, got ten more?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Just checking or at least until someone says something, and
no one said anything, so it might be more. All right,
you bet your ass. Kf I AM six forty we're
live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You gotta love Elsagundo And if you've been to Elsa Gundo,
it is adjacent to anything and everything. It's right next
to Manhattan Beach. It's right next to Lawndale. It's right
next to Gardena and Inglewood. When they say something is
centrally located, Elsa Gundo is a perfectly situated city area.
(19:07):
You can get to the beach very quickly. You can
get downtown rather quickly. You got two main arteries. You
can hit the four or five, or we drive a
little bit further, you can hit the one ten or
the one oh five. It is a good place to live,
but the smell not so much. Let's go back to
(19:27):
July twenty twenty one. That's when major failures at the
nearby Hyperion Water Reclamation plant dumped millions of gallons and
I mean millions of gallons of untreated sewage.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know what that means. Untreated sewage?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, raw dukie, untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay. Remember
how we always talk about how the beaches are contaminated.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, this is what we mean. This is exactly what
we mean.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay and least high levels
of hydrogen sulfide which smells like ace. Mark Runner doesn't
want me to say the other words, you cut loose.
It smells like ace and could cause health issues that
(20:18):
was July of twenty twenty one. We're about three almost
three and a half years later, and the odors are
still there now.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
For me, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Smell it every day, and I'm in Elsa Gundo fairly often,
like the Spectrum TV studios over there, so I'll be
there at least once or twice a week and just
driving around to my dogs to get groomed. They get
groomed and Elsa Gundo, so I'm there frequently enough to get.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
A good whiff.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I can't speak for Stephan, He's gonna speak for
himself in a second, but I know I smell it
off and on. I don't smell it all the time.
I don't have a very strong sense of smell due
to head injury. Long story, sad story, very very sad.
But when I do smell it, it's punching and it
cuts right through and I'm reminded what happened in July
(21:10):
of twenty twenty one. And there are a lot of
El Segundo residents who have been complaining for years now
as to why this is still an issue because El
Segundo residents were originally told it should be fine in
a couple of days, maybe a few weeks, let's even.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Say a month or two.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Now we're into like a year or three or four,
and it still smells horrible, not all the time, but
not that I'm a scientist. I'm thinking since it's intermittent,
it probably ebbs and flows with the amount of waste
water that the hyperion a reclamation plant has to deal with.
(21:53):
And there's some days and some weeks some months where
we're using a bathroom a little bit more than others,
and that problem has to do with it because the hyperion,
what a recogmation plant, is one of the most important
ones in the area, and from what I understand, it
is being overworked. It's being used in ways which is
(22:14):
probably exceeding its capacity. Now I can't validate or verify it,
but that's the only way I can explain it in
my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Stephen, you live in the same area. Do you smell it?
And if so, how often?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Kind of like what you said, it's basically kind of
on and off, but when.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It hits it, it hits hard.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
And yeah, I was gonna say the the implants or
the refineries right there. So that's like it's nothing new
because I had a lot. I went to school out
there for a little while, and I also had friends
that lived in there, and they they even called it
back then smell Segundo because they're just like you know,
and so like on MYCE basically would put that as
(22:57):
theirs their location, and so it's like, yeah, it's nothing new,
but it's yeah, it's it's on and off, and especially
it's almost like it harbors in one part of the
air and then once you drive a little bit further, it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Goes away again. I smell, I smell less when I'm
the more I drive inland. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hyperion is always telling me about the largest wastewater treatment
facility west of the Rockies. It's a big deal. It's
it's importance is huge. It sprawls across two hundred acres
of ocean front LA and sits just outside the city
limits of El Segundo. But here's what's most important. Every
single day, four million people and and that's within LA
(23:40):
and twenty nine other cities outside of LA, including El Segundo,
flush a quarter billion gallons of wastewater dookie into Hyperion's
treatment tanks every single day. A quarter billion gallons of
wastewater into high period. Clearly, it's exceeding capacity. That's what
(24:05):
I think. That's why we're getting the overflow. That's why
we're getting the beach bacteria alerts all year long. That's
why I think that the smell is intermittent. We're not
using the bathroom as much on certain days, or it's
able to process more wastewater on certain days and less
on others, and so we have yet to find some
(24:27):
sort of solution or stop gap measure to help us
deal with this wastewater. It's got to go somewhere. It's
got to go somewhere, and it smells like it's going nowhere.
It smells like it's just sitting there. If you wonder
why the city of Elsegundo smells like ace, this is why.
(24:50):
This is why people are flushing too much, and it
has nowhere to go. The city of Elseagundo is constipated.
All of it's backed up, nowhere to go. The city
needs a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Like a ruter. Damn you, Stefan, that was all Stephan.
Can you at least say excuse me, it's just so rude.
Excuse me, thank you?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You can you a least close the door now too,
You know, I don't know why you felt the need
to actually put your ace next to the microphone for
that sound effect? Could you like find one on YouTube?
But no, you had to have the authenticity. It would
take too long to find a sound effect. But you
know they can't smell it, so you might as well
(25:38):
just take the extra five or six seconds and find it.
Other people got to use that microphone, you know that, right,
that's true. I'll clean it up during the break. Yeah,
that's what they always say. It's later with mokel I can't.
I Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
And if you ever wondered, I know you've wondered, but
if you thought about the real reason as to why
you're supposed to put your phone on airplay, there's plenty
(26:01):
of conspiracy theories and alternative explanations as to why we
do it. Well, there is a pilot who has gone
viral for giving his definitive explanation as to why we
are forced to put our phones on airplane mode and
what happens if and when you don't put your phone
(26:24):
on airplane mode. We're going to play that for you
next when we come back.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We've all wondered, or at least I have wondered.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I suspect you've Wondered's like, do I really need to
turn my phone off or put it on airplane mode
just because we're backing away? Do we really have to
and ask the question? And some people will say, well,
I'm going to be defiant. I'm going to leave my
phone on and see what happens. And maybe nothing happened.
You said, See, it's all a conspiracy. It's just another
(26:59):
way to control us as Americans. We're free here in
this country. We shouldn't have to put our phones on
airplane mode. It's just a way to make us buy
that that crappy internet and spend another fifteen dollars. That's
what I believe, just to make you spend more money,
which could be part of it, but it's not all
(27:19):
of it. But I found this clip which went viral,
and if this were a Wednesday, I'm quite sure Tiffty
Hobbs of the viral load would be talking about it.
A pilot calmly, thoroughly and completely answered any question as
to why you and I are supposed to put our
phone on airplay mode when we're flying.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
This is just a friendly pisa that the airplane mode
button on your phone is not a conspiracy, so you
forget to put your phone on airplane mode. No, it's
not the in the world that the plane will not
fall out of the sky and it won't even mess
with the systems on board. However, it does have the
potential to mess with the headsets. If you have an
aircraft with seventy eighty one hundred and fifty people on board,
and even three or four people's phones start to try
(28:02):
to make a connection to a radio tower for an
incoming phone call, it sends out radio waves. There's the
potential that those radio waves can interfere with the radio
waves of the headset that the pilots are using. Last
night in San Francisco, we had pushed off the gate,
we were talking to the rampers, we disconnected from the tug,
started the engines, and then once we got the plane
turned around, we started headed towards the taxiways and I
(28:24):
called up ground to get our clearances to which direction
we had to go. And as soon as we start
getting the directions, there's like this really annoying buzz going
through the headset, and it kind of sounds like there's
a mosquito in my ear. Like I said, it's not
end of the world, but it's definitely pretty annoying when
you're trying to copy down instructions and it sounds like
there's just like a wasp or something flying around you.
So if you're ever curious why I got to put
on airplane mode, that's why.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Okay, it could it interfere with the communications between the
pilot and the tower, be it on the ground or
possibly in the air, that is a good enough explanation
for me.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I have, though not intentionally.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I have, though accidentally, being honest, accidentally not put my
phone on airplane mode for the course of a flight.
Forget or you don't push the button, or may have
been de selected during the flight. I don't know, but
I've landed once and I realized, oh, it was on
the whole flight. Did I get any texts?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Did I get any messages No?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But I have to assume my phone was trying to
connect during that time which we were flying. So hopefully
I didn't cause any type of problem for the pilots.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But you would think at.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
This point that our ground communications or the communications between
the tower and the and the plane would be on
a different type of frequency system or wave system where
they're not using something which could be impacted by a
bad actor in that way.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's what I'm thinking, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Thinking like, if you know, let's let's on a plane
again now, boom, that you already knew this, and you're
a bad actor and you wanted to create some sort
of chaos or make it difficult for pilots to communicate,
this might be a way to do that. It could
cause a problem. Even if it's only a nuisance, it's
(30:17):
still a problem. And if you have bad intentions, well
what if you amplified that in some way.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
This is just a friendly pisa that the airplane mode
button on your phone is not a conspiracy. So if
you forget to put your phone on airplane mode, no,
it's not in the world that the plane will not
fall out of the sky and it won't even mess
with the systems on board.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Okay, because that's what happened to me.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I forgot to put mine on airplane mode, and as
it turned out, I'm here now, So the plane did
not fall out of the sky. But I've always heard
that it can mess with I'll say, the instruments or
the communication. It can impact what the pilots do. To
what degree.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I couldn't tell you, but this pilot is telling us
to what degree.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
However, it does have the potential to mess with that headsets.
If you have an aircraft with seventy eighty, one hundred
and fifty people on board, and even three or four
people's phones start to try to make a connection to
a radio tower three or four.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Three or four and it's not a lot. Now, think
about someone who wants to amplify that signal, and.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Even three or four people's phones start to try to
make a connection to a radio tower for an incoming
phone call, it sends out radio waves. There's the potential
that those radio waves can interfere with the radio waves
of the headset that the pilots are using. Last night
in San Francisco, we had pushed off the gate, we
were talking to the rampers, we disconnected from the tug,
(31:37):
started the engines, and then once we got the plane
turned around, we started headed towards the taxiways and I
called up ground to get our clearances to which direction
we had to go, and as soon as we start
getting the directions, there's like this really annoying buzz going
through the headset and it kind of sounds like there's
a mosquito in my ear. Like I said, it's not
end of the world, but it's definitely pretty annoying when
you're trying to copy that instructions and it sounds like
(31:57):
there's just like a wasp or something flying around you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Tulla, When I went to DC not too long ago,
there was this story. I don't know if you saw it,
I briefly mentioned it. There's this story about I think
it was a United Airlines plane leaving Honolulu and almost
went to the side of a mountain because of a
miscommunication between the plane and ground control, the tower or
something like that. Now, I don't know what the truth
(32:24):
is as far as whose fault it was, but if
something like that could happen due to a miscommunication on
any level, then I'm not going to rule out the
possibility that there may have been interference which could have
impacted instructions or what was received or how it was interpreted.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah, well, absolutely there are still questions surrounding the charter
plane that went down heading over.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
To what is the island demit? It just went there,
not the island of misfits.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What's the name of them? Mark the Catalina set up
blake out No. And when I saw that that was
right after we went and they said that there was
interference and that the pilot chance are with the way
the plane hit is that there was some level of
interference that made us that the pilot couldn't tell what
(33:21):
the what the difference between the ground and the landing,
So all that was messed up. And I thought to myself,
what were they doing on that plane? Were they taking selfies?
I thought then that it had to have done with
maybe someone on the on that plane taking selfies or
on their phone or something. To see this right now,
I would look, I'm gonna mail my phone to wherever
(33:41):
it is I'm going from now.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I found it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
This was November fifteenth, a month ago today almost an
American Airlines flight nearly crashed into a mountain range in Hawaii,
but escaped tragedy when it was ordered to rapidly gain altitude.
LA bound Flight two ninety eight had just taken on
from Honolulu at twelve thirty am Wednesday, when the air
traffic controller ordered the crew to expedite your cloud quote
(34:08):
unquote meaning quickly as sin to avoid danger. And this
they actually had the audio. I don't have time to
pull it, but there was communication involved. The dramatic elevation gain,
which came after the pilot failed to make a turn
following takeoff, likely prevented the plane from slamming into the
(34:29):
mountain range on the Island of Wahoo, according to officials.
So there was some miscommunication, some lack of communication, something
which could have ended in tragedy. And like I always said, well,
my sister was working for LAX. There's a lot of
stuff that you just never hear about which could have
(34:50):
been tragic. But sometimes it just doesn't make it to
the news. It doesn't make it to the person who's
going to inform the news. And just because American Airlines
didn't want this story out there, they would never want
this story out there. Someone wrote protocol or like could
have been a passenger and said, hey, we almost hit
a mountain. You need to look into this, and that's
(35:12):
how the information gets out. There are a lot of
problems which never see the light of day, are not.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Communicated to the public.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
And that's why I've always been skittish about flying, because
they're just things that I know that just never see
the light of day. And so when I hear that
about how your phone can possibly impact communication, it doesn't
take much, at least from where I'm sitting for something
to go terribly wrong. So I'll just go ahead and
(35:40):
keep my phone off because it's not going to be
because of me. In the off chance the unlikelihood, like
they always say in the unlikely event of a water landing,
well they say unlikely because it's happened before.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's not impossible.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They didn't say in the impossible event of a water landing.
They said in the unlikely. No, what is unlikely unlikely
is me going to pasta thon and catching COVID's Like
Mark Ronner, that was the unlikely event, but you know
what it happened, and Mark Runner will never let us
live it down, never ever.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Kind of a far reach to drag me into this.
I know who the heavy.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Lift, But I was successful, okay if I am since
forty nice work.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
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