August 3, 2023 • 34 mins
The Doug Gottlieb Show is live from Rams Training Camp in Irvine, CA! Doug reacts to the big news of the day regarding the Big Ten possibly expanding even more to include Oregon and Washington. Rams GM Les Snead joins Doug to discuss the team's shift in mentality regarding draft picks, Cooper Kupp's health status, and expectations for Matthew Stafford coming in to the season. Rams WR Van Jefferson joins Doug moments after practice to discuss the team's readiness to prove doubters wrong after a rough 2022 season.
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Dan byers here, Jay stews here, Ramos who, of course
the world's biggest RAMS fan. We're really really happy that
the restraining order that McVeigh had on him was nullified
by a local job Orange County judge. I think in
Thousand Oaks, where the Rams normally trade changed train, it
is still very much active. We get the big ten
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news of the day and then I want to talk
some Rams. Let me just kind of give you every
business is different, and I think it's really interesting that
the news is that the commissioner Tony Battiti. And if
you know Tony, if you know our business, I don't
know if you guys know this. He used to run
CBS Sports and then he ran the MLB network. So
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a guy who now in the commissioner side has a
working knowledge of all of the TV people and what
they want, but he had to be granted permission. And
this is one of the things I got a chance
to know the previous commissioner of the Big Ten, Christner Warren,
who just left for the Chicago Bears, and one of
his things he said that was different about working for
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a conference as opposed to used to work for the
Vikings now the Bears is like when you work for
the Vikings, your boss is the owner. When you work
for the Bears, your boss is the owner. When you
work for a conference, you got fourteen bosses, you know,
and some bosses matter some, some presidents matter more. All
the presidents are new, but him being new, it's like
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he actually has to ask, can I have permission? Can
think about that?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like your commissioner of the Big ten, Like, hey, can
I go talk to can I am I allowed to
talk to them about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's a weird existence.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But the exploring adding Oregon in Washington, it's really simple, right,
It's really simple. They're just trying to lay and wait
and see if the PAC twelve collapses. Is it smart
to have four schools on the West coast so that
UCLA and USC have somebody to compete against that they
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don't have to go and fly across, you know, across
into the plains and the northern plains and the Midwest
in order to compete.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And it's just the cost benefit analysis to it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And you're waiting on the se on the ACC which
yesterday the big news was a bunch of Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
State trustees are like, we're out.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Just tell us when somebody wants us, because we this
thing is in a poop show. And I believe the
destruction of all things we know in college sports will
be complete once the conference reshuffling goes around. Now there's
a chance to kind of save it. But here's the thing, like,
this is what not enough people ask themselves. I understand
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that the big ten, the SEC are gonna survive because
of the gigantic TV numbers money that they're getting I
believe the Big twelve will also survive. They're getting a
handsome amount, and then there'll be a fourth conference.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't think there's just gonna be three.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
There's gonna be something else out there, whether you combine
what the remnants of the ACC and the remnants of
the PAC twelve, where the Pac twelve becomes this power
West conference and think at them, and you know, maybe
there's two big ones and then three smaller ones. I
don't know, but college athletics, I always thought, why do
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you go think of the teams you went to, the
teams you cheered for as a kid. Now sometimes it's because, well,
that team was awesome. Like how many Miami University of
Miami football fans are there because they were awesome?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, look, I grew up. I grew up literally
fifteen minutes from here in City of Orange. I was
an Oklahoma football fan. Why because I used to flip
it on and they were awesome and they would then
they would lose in the Orange Bowl and then you
had dudes walking around with AK forty sevens and that
thing didn't go well. But they were cool, and I
became an Oklahoma fan remarkably end up going to Oklahoma State.
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But for the most part, the school I went to
see the most was UCLA. My sister went to UCLA,
she was a cheerleader, My brother went to UCLA. We
went to UCLA basketball, Ucla football fans. Even though we
have no My mom's a Syracuse saalum.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
My dad's inn.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ohio stated Loum, we have no ties to it. It's regionality,
right And your rivals are you? Your rivals are cow
Your rivals aren't you? You know they used to have
a great when Don James was at Washington, used to
be a really good rivalry with UCLA, super high talented teams.
You say it was just never great in terms of
consecutive bids towards a Rose Bowl Arizona basketball again all
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in the same region. Well, we've destroyed all that, with
all the conference shifting, all the one hundred year rivalries.
It's like, yeah, we've been playing you for a hundred
years and our conference are schools aligned, but we're gonna
go get a check and then the other thing that's
damaged and this has nothing to do with it, But
it really is all about greed, and I on some level,
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I don't blame athletes now because the schools have become
so incredibly greedy towards it, and some is it's just
out of survival mode. They don't get any money from
the state anymore. This is the way you create revenue.
But schools aren't loyal to conferences, so athletes aren't loyal
to the schools. And the other reason I always thought,
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you watched a school player, you fell in love with
the players, you saw him. You remember when he signed,
he kept an eye on him. Maybe he played a
red shirt as a freshman, he worked his way up
and by his junior year he's, you know, an all
All Conference player by his senior yor maybe he's an All American. Right, well,
those days are they're not completely gone, but mostly gone.
Because if you don't play as a freshman, you're like,
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I'm out, you know, And if you don't play.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
As a sophomore, you're definitely out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you just kind of bounce around school school or
sometimes you play and another school that maybe has deeper
pockets says like they're not supposed to, but you get
word through intermediaries because the players are allowed to have agents.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It moved.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Hey, if you move, you're gonna get twice the money,
So there is absolutely no loyalty, and college sports is
one hundred percent about loyalty. When I was on the
first ever espn U show, it was actually from Stillwater, Oklahoma,
and I only know three oh four oh five, right,
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that was it was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That was a lunch date three.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the initial ad campaign, which was a really good
one for ESPNU, was never graduate. It was the idea
that no matter where you go, no matter what you do,
your school is you cut me open and an orange
blood comes out, and there is zero loyalty to conference,
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zero loyalty to coaches, and of course coaches because of
that loyalty of like I'm gonna bounce to the next
thing as well, and the players have acted in kind.
The number one thing about college athletics, by my estimation,
is loyalty and love of school and university above all else,
which builds the rivalries and then of course regionality. All
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that's gone. And I don't think we're the better because
of it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I just don't. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's funny because Oregon and Washington potentially going to the
pack or the Big Ten is not what USC would
want for them, and that's it's because USC wants to
be so even of everything that you've just talked about,
of all the changing and how everything is different, that
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is different like that, that is you know, Penn State
joins the Big Ten, and I know it's thirty years ago,
but it fit like it may have been the school
that was the farthest east at the time, but it fit.
It fit with the Ohio State, it fit with the
Michigan and the Michigan States, and honestly even Nebraska fit
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like it. It worked for Nebraska may be better off
in the Big twelve or in the Big Eight, but
it wasn't craziness to put Nebraska into the Big Ten
and to hear the Oregon and Washington thing and then
hear the schools that maybe know them the best not
wanting them there.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Everything's upset done.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, that's again out agreed because hey, we want to say,
you know, in recruiting in southern California or in all
the California, we're the only school that's in the Big
Ten outside of UCLA. And you know, at USC, they
feel like we recruit a different level than than UCLA does, right,
So that the it's fascinating and the only thing that
you can count on is change, right, and we and
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the crazy part about the sport is, in many ways
it's better than it's ever been because, yeah, because now
we're gonna have a playoff, like a real playoff.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's better than it's ever been.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Because because of the real playoff, and because of the
twelve teams, teams are gonna have to up their schedules
in order if if it gets close, you're gonna have
to have played somebody. It's better than it's ever been
because the TV coverage is just phenomenal and you know,
you go back in the day and you know, Notre
Dame was NBC and every we'd have it just a
couple of games.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now there's not a game you can't watch.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But despite the fact that so much of it's better,
it's a lot worse because I mean, I just you're
an Ohio State fan.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How many of their starters can you name?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Today's it'd be you know, it'd be difficult, but it'd
be you know, get in.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Twelve you can gain twelve starters.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I mean, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be the twenty two,
is my my point.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right, So I like, as I I know I could
probably do three at Okla mistake sure three right?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Three?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And that's my school. I couldn't do like any other school.
There's a couple of everybody knows Kayleb Williams. Can anyone
name anybody else.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Who plays at USC? This is USC?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, because everything changes like I don't even think guys
at Colorado know who the guy is sitting next to
them at the lie in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Hey man, what's your name? Steve? Where are you from? Then?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
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Speaker 1 (10:57):
So this is year of coming here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I think it's your six You're six of coming to
UC Irvine to watch the Rams practice. And every year
is different and distinct until itself right, like when they
drafted Jared Goff, it was all you know, like what now,
a sudden change is here? And then he was supposed
to red shirt his first year. Then he ended up playing,
and then by year two you're like, okay, golf, girly,
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this is a good club.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And they end up going to a super Bowl that year.
The super Bowl. The first Super Bowl year, you walked
in and you knew they were going to be good.
You knew they were going to be good.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Then they lost most of their offensive line after that
year and it was a down year. Right then they
recovered and when they got Stafford, you felt like that
year it's going to be special.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Last year you had.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The sense of man, they went all in and it
was a short off season, and everybody got a new deal,
like Cooper Cup got a new deal. What's the name
of the defensive line, Aaron Donald got a new deal,
Lesnie got a new deal. Remember there was talk of
Sean McVay leaving. He got a new do.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Everybody got paid. But that doesn't always.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It felt like there was a there was a cliff
they were walking off of, and then injuries and there
and of course they're losing Stafford and it became a Cliff.
This year you walk in, You're like, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There's some pieces you like, but the the.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Their whole thing was draft picks don't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
F them picks, and now everything is you know, we
could be really good if.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
These draft picks of the past two years are good.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's just a completely different way of looking at your
team and building expectations, and there's just so much unknown,
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
By searching FSR. Let's welcome in Less Need. He's the
general manager of the La Rams.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Two years ago won a Super Bowl and we were
sitting here last year and we thought you would get
a new contract.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Then you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like literally, I'm driving home and my phone blows up
and was like, oh, let's need agree. You know, it
was announced your new contract, but what's fast.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Was done while was doing your radio?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, it was and it was done probably a long
time ago, and you just waited to announce there.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I forget that timeline.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So, okay, this is every year we've come here. It's
been different, right, Like I remember when you got golf
and all of a sudden it felt like, okay, they
got it, they got their next quarterback. And then by
year two he felt like he belonged. And by year
three now the sudden contender felt like for a while.
And then obviously when you brought in Matt there were expectations.
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You guys lived up those expectations, won a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Everybody kind of got new contracts, but there was so
much change, especially in the lines, and then you had
the injuries. You couldn't play up to the level that
you wanted. This year feels like an unknown to most people.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
You know what the great point expectations is to take
it step by step a little bit like when we
started this thing, and even in all of those years,
and I'll go back to what year was at the
twenty one season that we won the Super Bowl. When
you're at training camp and when you start, you can't say, hey,
let's go win a super Bowl. You still have to
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get through training camp, get through preseason, get through the season.
In that year we had to weather a three game
losing streak with a buye so over thirty days without
a loss in that process, losing Robert Woods but on
board and Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So there's a lot of change.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So point being it, like we always say, let's keep
the main thing the main thing. Let's try to do
something good for Rams football today.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
That usually leads to.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Playing quality football on Sundays, which usually leads to wins
which you lose, usually leads to chances, you know, to
compete for championships and tournaments. But it's still one step
at a time.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Lesnie joining us general manager of the La Rams, Doug
Gottlieb show here live at the Rams training practice. We
got walked through about to getting away. Then of course
they can have a practice a little bit later on.
We appreciate you taking so much time.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Do you need go no cliche? Huh just to say
you just probably were thinking. He just gave me the
most cliche answer. But I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
A little bit cliche if.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You knew the intensity that Sean has during a lot
through and the standards for what you would realize, Okay,
one step at a time, like that walk through. Oh
if these guys aren't dialed in and there's mental errors,
Oh that the next two hours for Sean is so
just I knew you were thinking, Oh, what a cliche answer.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
There was.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
There was some cliche, but part of cliche answers are
accurate because yeah, they've been repeated time and again for
a for a reason. Matt Stafford and obviously injury tough
injuries season last year, talk of him retiring, talk of
him being traded. Now he's back and he's healthy. How
would you characterize Matt Stafford with your franchise?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
You know what's really neat is the part on the
health part, because you could see an OTAs. Wow, that's
why Matthew Stafford probably was a five star if they
had stars back then, while it was one overall pick
I after.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
His they had stars back then.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
By the way, when he signed at Georgia, I was
working in the ESPN radio Melchiper Junior. He's like that
guy's even number one overall pick like he had that
Lord Tortu.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But he they were they were stars. But yes, go ahead,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
So watching him in OTAs uh And then this year
I was able to I was down at the Manning
Academy and was able to see some of the better college.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Qbs throw the ball around.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And however, many years into the league, Matthew Stafford is
compared to that. You're like, okay, wait a minute, that's
a that's a six star. They may be five stars,
but his armt so to see him healthy. The neat
I would say. The rose of last year's thorn was
in Matthew's case, probably in Cooper's case and Aaron Donald's case,
is when those guys so many years in their league
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actually have to sit out more than half the season,
there is an element where wow, you you take time
to reflect the I actually miss playing this game. So
there is some roses to last year's thorns, but the
health is the number one.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, I know, and we always already had Cooper granted
just a hamstring, okay, but you know you missed, you
missed all the time last year. And of course he's
had you know, previous injury going back a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
What's that like?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
As you said, to watch him and he thankfully just
a hamstring the other day.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Thankfully, just a hamstring and a minor hamstring.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Because if you've ever if you've ever probably had a
let's call it a kid in high school and you, oh,
it's a hamstring, and most people think it's a year,
a week away and you're back.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's usually not the case with ham creen springs.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It's usually is a four to six week process, this
depending on strength, this one being minor. The neat thing
with Cooper is seasons not till thirty nine plus days away.
There's plenty of time to get that hamstring ready. He's
a veteran, he'll be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What about Sean? You know there there was taka Sean
going and doing something else. Signs a big contract last year.
Obviously now he's married, kind of is it has? What's
he like from your perspective in terms of how he
goes about his daily business?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I think that was one he would tell you this.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
He's articulated in many ways that the let's call it
the the rows of last year's thorn for him, distress
and drudgery had had caught up to him.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
It's I mentioned the people all the time before.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
However long he's been our head coach, probably the moment
he got the play calling job in Washington, probably two
years before we hired him. He had been running an
eight hundred meter competitive eight hundred meter every day. Wasn't
going to be able to sustain that, But like anyone,
there was this element that he had to age into
it realize, okay, wait a minute, I got to do
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some things differently to be able to sustain this pace.
And the pace is not being Okay, we're gonna run
an eight hundred meter every single day. It's gonna be
we're gonna run some eight hundred meters, but we're gonna
be really, really, really fresh when we do it. And
there's a way to do that, and I think that's
what he was able to intentionally set his mind to
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this offseason.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
What's it like for you, Lesnie joining us here in
the Doug Gottlieb Show live at La RAMS training camp.
For you, you know, two years ago it was we
don't need the picks, We're going for it now. So now,
as you said, it's kind of going back to the
past where you need these young players, first and second
year players to develop me. You had a litany of
fifth and sixth round picks this year and they're you know,
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fighting for their survival right now, what's that like for
you to evaluate and put your ultimate fifty three roster together?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
The neat thing is, even in the past we have
had to rely on players in their rookie contracts and
key roles, we might have had a few more veteran
core players to mix in with them. So this year
being different is instead of Jalen with with let's call
it players on their rookie contracts, it may be all
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players on their rookie contracts in the in the defensive
back end. So that's we've been through that before. We're
used to relying on players on rookie contracts important roles.
This year we're going to have to rely on more
of them. And interestingly through it all and I get
all the reasons why that's the narrative, but probably in
the last six years we're probably I know we're either
number two, three, four, but I think we may have
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climbed the two after this year with fourteen picks that
over that time span, we've basically had the second to
third most draft picks in the draft.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So we've definitely valued draft picks.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
We have used some of our early draft picks differently
than let's just saying drafting.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Sure, And I would also it also changes though your
preseason plan for the games, right because Sean has always
play my starters. But there's so many young guys fighting
for spots. Doesn't that change who you're playing?
Speaker 6 (21:05):
When you play, it will not be like years past,
but it will be like years past. And I know
he had some names, you know, because we do have
players like Rob haven't seen Tyler Higbee, some players that
have been here since our first Super Bowl into the
second Super Bowl. So the player the team does have
some core veterans that will get the let's call it
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non preseason play treatment, but there is an element of
trying to engineers as competent a collective as possible. And
because we mentioned we're gonna let's talk the defensive side
of the ball, there's a lot of players on their
rookie contracts on that side of the ball other than
Aaron Donald, and so we're gonna need those guys to
jail during the preseason.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Of the things you've seen in your time in the NFL.
And I know he's not part of this team now,
he's fighting for his spot in Tampa, Baker coming in
with almost no prep, run.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A two minute and winning you a game that I.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Mean, there's the won a lot of highlights last year
because all the injuries, right, that strikes me as as
remarkable a wins as you can think.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
We mentioned Roses to last year Thorns. I think I
had mentioned this to Baker that somewhere along the way
twenty years later, when we're all sitting around talking about
football and there's gonna be some really neat moments on
the timeline, but in the midst of that very bad
season for us, that's gonna be a moment we're gonna
talk about. You're gonna that story is gonna get told.
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That is that is I mean, what did you get
here on Thursday? Yes, yeah, that's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, they played on Sunday and Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Vegas had to lose a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure why they're impressed man coverage
in that play either, but hey, you'll you'll take it.
I mean, but to run a two minute when you
I mean, we just played a cut with Justin Fields.
He just now a year in learning the two minute Baggers,
they're like fifteen minutes like I got it, learn about it.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You know it almost interesting looking back in that tell
them about two minutes. I've heard quarterbacks, the young quarterbacks
say that when you do get in the two minutes,
sometimes there's an element. You're going fast, it's not you
don't have a lot of time to think. Yeah, so
there's just an element not necessarily easier, but they're just reacting.
They're playing QB like they used to, where sometimes as
you start a game and you get normal down in
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distances and you're listening to coaches and you're trying to
strategize and you're overthinking it when you get in two
minutes like okay, wait, this is backyard, this is high school.
I've done this before.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Give him credit.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He has that, he's got kind of that that's in
his DNA. He's Baker Mayfield's made for that moment.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yes, and it was. It was it was something to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Last thing we mentioned all the young players, and you're saying,
we think we're probably second most young guys. There's no
hard knocks out here, right, So the beauty to hard
knocks is you find like a young guy and you
follow him.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You have so many is give me, a young.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Guy who has really impressed you, maybe more so than
even when you dress.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Would be a tough.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
It'd be like the Bachelor, whatever bachelor show there would be.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You'd give fifty roses.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You could give who would get your first impression?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Rows, Oh, watch this rookie long snapper, rookie punter, rookie kicker.
And we only have those three on the roster, those three,
and they got a lot of responsibility. Are they gonna
win the job? Are they gonna actually be useful to us?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I thought you only have those three in the roster.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah, only though so, but technically there's a cuts and
things like that.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But I give those three. The reason I say M
is to non answer, kind of keep some guys.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Rookie long snapper is a lot like the baggage handling people.
You only talk about him when something goes wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And the punter is like about six foot five if
you if you YouTube, he's dead lifting and cleaning and
he's never held before because he was punter and kicker
at win Gate College.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Have you ever heard of win Gate?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I actually have heard which state? North Carolina?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
There you go, So point being, we had to teach
him the hold.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I love that I could pull great pull hey basketball,
it's at the basketball a little bit, yes, but point.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Meaning you had to teach him the hold.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
And now you've got a whole rookie operation. So I
give those guys and they're actually doing a really, really
really nice job.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
All right, Less, I appreciate your time. Obviously, it's tough
sledding out here and intervine with with the breeze coming
off the ocean the eucalypsus trees. But continued health to
your team, keep Cooper and Bubble rapp and we can't
wait to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
See you a week one of the season.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Thanks for having me, all right, that's a lets's need,
the gentle manager of the La Rams.
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Speaker 2 (26:16):
Stuck Gottleep Show here on Fox Sports Radios. Fourth year
wide receiver for the La Rams course part of that
Super Bowl winning team two years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's Van Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
How are you good?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Good?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Pretty like for walkthroughs, and it felt a little bit
more intense than you've been through Shawn's walkthroughs.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What's he like this year's most other years?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Yeah, you know, I think he's just you know, being
on a details about everything. You know, Uh McVeigh loves
everything about the details. So you know, everybody just come
out here trying to you know, perfect that, and you
know walk those as a part of the game. And
you know before we go to practice, you know, you
just want to script those plays and you know, get
ready for practice.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
When you saw Cooper go down the other day, what
was in your brain?
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Oh? Man, I mean, Cooper's just a great guy, so
you had unfortunate see that. But you know he's gonna
bounce back and be back soon. You know, it's just
something that's gonna you know, that's so small and it'll
get uh, he'll get back quick. So you know, we're
excited for him to get back and do what he does.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Your first two years, there are huge expectations you walk
in as a rookie, huge expectations of the team. Second year,
you guys win to win a Super Bowl, right, and
your role was way bigger, maybe than even you thought,
obviously because of injuries around you.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What's it like? This is a weird year, right where
people just.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Don't know, they don't know what to make of your club,
and the division seems like kind of the same thing
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
What's it like this year in terms of the energy
leading into the camp?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, I think you know, it's a lot of unknowns,
you know. Uh, of course last year that we didn't
want you didn't finish the season that we wanted to.
But you know, we got a lot of young guys.
We got a lot of young talent around us that's
gonna come in and make an impact for us. And
uh so I think it's just a new energy that
we have, you know, just to come up and you know,
prove everybody wrong, you know, and we're just taking it
one day to time and uh you know, perfecting that
craft now so we can when we get to September,
(27:57):
we'll be ready.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So I got to ask you about that, the two
minute drill we talked about with with Less. I went
to the Rams Raiders game, right. I go to the
game and Baker had been there for like five minutes. Yeah,
and he's leading you guys on a two minute drill.
What's for a guy who you played football your whole life?
What's it like to see a guy do that?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I mean I don't know. I think he was here
like a day maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
So it was crazy, just you know, him coming in
and you know, them throwing them throwing him into the fire,
you know, and he handled it like a g you know,
he's tended like a straight pro, and you know, he
was more excited than us. About the opportunity to go,
you know, to do a two minute drill and to
lead a comeback. You know, I just remember him in
a huddle before we got off the field. He's like, Hey,
come on, let's grond, let's grond. So I just knew,
you know, something's going to especially that happened. And you know,
(28:41):
the play that I always remember, you know, is been
the Ben's coronic play where he just moss the dB.
So that play right there kind of gave us momentum,
and you know the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It gave you momentum. But you caught the ball to
touchdown with nine seconds ago. See wait, see a line
up and I think there are like fifteen seconds on
the clock. Right, Yes, you're in the twenty three yard
line and they're impressed man coverage.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, well, what's going on in your brain?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
I'm like, give me an op? You know. I was
just like, hey, throw it my way, you know, cause
you know, like you see, like you said, the corner
was impressed, and then I've seen the safety come down
and I was like, oh, it's one on one coverage.
So you know, I just knew Baker was going to
give me an op. And you know I made the
most of that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What's that what's that feeling like? Like game winning touchdown
catch Sunday night football? Considering tough year, but what's that
feeling like?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
That feeling was great? You know, Like I said after
the game, you know that my first time ever catching
the gamer in such sound in history. You know, I
didn't do it in the high school North College, so
this that first time doing that. It was it was crazy,
you know, and just to celebrate with all my teammates,
and you know, this was a feeling I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know that the balls in the air, are you
thinking like, don't drop? Oh yeah, for sure drop this.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
In my mind, I'm like, you got to catch this.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You might.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
We might not have an opportunity. They might not the
next player might not come out and play mine coverage.
So this might just be the only time you can
make the catch.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
There's a ton of dudes out here who nobody knows
who they are. Do you know how many percentage of
the ninety that you you actually know their name?
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Yeah, it's thirty six rookies. I think I don't know
if I can I might can name all their names.
I'm not sure, but I haven't. Uh, I could probably not.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Hey, man, dudes, what's your what? What is it man?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Or what what do you? What's your what's your go to?
Speaker 8 (30:17):
It's just what's up?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
My man?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What's man? What's up?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You got my man?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You got broe, you got dude? Dude around here? All
depends on what he looks likes. He looked like a bros.
He look like a dude.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You look like my man, my man.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Don't call anyone boss. I can't stand that one though.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No boss, No, I hate boss Starbucks boss that boss.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Which is bro better?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah up bro bro up Bro so up up up
bro bro. Uh how Stafford looked?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
He looks great?
Speaker 8 (30:46):
You know, I think you know he's you know, he's
done a great job in the off season, you know,
just with with everybody. You know, I think this year
he's just more focused than ever. And you know he's
just a great leader of this team, you know, a
great quarterback. And you know we go behind him, so
we know he's leading us and he looks really great.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
When you say he's what what is his leadership style?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
You know, just getting on you if you got if
you you know, he's very punctual about what you need
to do. You know where he needs to line up,
where you have to be, the assignment that you need
to know. So he's kind of control of that and
you know he'll let you know him. That's what you
know you need in the quarterback to you know, let
you know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Have you seen the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Video of Trayvon Diggs and and uh.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dak, I did see?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Okay, what would happen if to Stafford or how would
Stafford's reaction be? Or I like my thing was like
no wide receivers, no lineman. If one of your cornerbacks
called him a female dog back end, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Here?
Speaker 8 (31:39):
I don't know Matt as a as a competitive do
so I know that you know it'll be some drawn
back and forth and uh, you know he.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Was weird though, like that just kind of like okay,
through the bottom, like walked away. But I usually you
call somebody the B word and usually guys they might
not come to blows, but they chested up really really quick.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, so I feel like Matt. Matt would definitely say
something that Matt was a competitive do I can't speak
for his actions of what he do, but I know
that he'll definitely, you know, row up and you know, you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Know, there's only there's only two ways to know you've
made it with the Rams, right, one is you get
the big contract.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The second part is you don't play in the preseason.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Are you playing the preseason?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I have no idea right now, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You want to play in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I mean whatever the coaches do, you like?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's actually it's like a double win if you don't
have to play, because it means you're good, right, you matter, right,
I guess the other guys it means they don't matter, right, Like, man,
you don't matter, you can get hurt, we don't care.
But like his deal is, if you matter, you don't
play in the preseason games.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you know, everybody, I.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
May have played that seed his head down now by way,
do I matter? Do I not matter? But they're writing
it up on the board.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a great opportunity
for a lot of you know people to come out
there and play. You know, preseasons is where you can
showcase your talent. And you can showcasch your allent to
other teams, you know, and I feel like, you know,
if coach asked me to play, then you're not going
to play. But you know, at the end of the day,
you know, it's all about football and just going after
the play.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Are you glad your dad's out of the division?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Now, Carolina, but for you know, during your time he's
to the Arizona I think for pretty much all your career.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yeah, uh, I was. It's kind of I'm kind of
glad and know because you know, I like playing these
my dad. I like, you know, the competition we have
during the week of us talking trash back and forth
for each other.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, now that he's going you call him a
ba you.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
And for those that may not know, Sean Jefferson, Van
Jefferson's dad, a veteran wide receiver who I can use
in immaculate grid for a couple of teams.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
But yeah, now a member of the Carolina Panthers staff.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Yeah, so he's you know, you know, he loves seeing
his grand baby, so you know, he's kind of booming
that he had to move all away across the Carolina
So but you know, it's great for him.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He loves it.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
You know, he's from the South and you know he's happy.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I mean he'll be happy once that humidity cuts right.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah yeah yeah, absolutely, hey man, best of Luckted season,
get get to get Cooper.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Healthy and we can't wait to see on the field.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes, sir, thank you, Van Jeffers in the course, fourth
year wide receiver for your la rams joining us in
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Dan byers here, Jay stews here, Ramos who, of course
the world's biggest RAMS fan. We're really really happy that
the restraining order that McVeigh had on him was nullified
by a local job Orange County judge. I think in
Thousand Oaks, where the Rams normally trade changed train, it
is still very much active. We get the big ten
(01:07):
news of the day and then I want to talk
some Rams. Let me just kind of give you every
business is different, and I think it's really interesting that
the news is that the commissioner Tony Battiti. And if
you know Tony, if you know our business, I don't
know if you guys know this. He used to run
CBS Sports and then he ran the MLB network. So
(01:30):
a guy who now in the commissioner side has a
working knowledge of all of the TV people and what
they want, but he had to be granted permission. And
this is one of the things I got a chance
to know the previous commissioner of the Big Ten, Christner Warren,
who just left for the Chicago Bears, and one of
his things he said that was different about working for
(01:53):
a conference as opposed to used to work for the
Vikings now the Bears is like when you work for
the Vikings, your boss is the owner. When you work
for the Bears, your boss is the owner. When you
work for a conference, you got fourteen bosses, you know,
and some bosses matter some, some presidents matter more. All
the presidents are new, but him being new, it's like
(02:14):
he actually has to ask, can I have permission? Can
think about that?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like your commissioner of the Big ten, Like, hey, can
I go talk to can I am I allowed to
talk to them about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's a weird existence.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But the exploring adding Oregon in Washington, it's really simple, right,
It's really simple. They're just trying to lay and wait
and see if the PAC twelve collapses. Is it smart
to have four schools on the West coast so that
UCLA and USC have somebody to compete against that they
(02:47):
don't have to go and fly across, you know, across
into the plains and the northern plains and the Midwest
in order to compete.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And it's just the cost benefit analysis to it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And you're waiting on the se on the ACC which
yesterday the big news was a bunch of Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
State trustees are like, we're out.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Just tell us when somebody wants us, because we this
thing is in a poop show. And I believe the
destruction of all things we know in college sports will
be complete once the conference reshuffling goes around. Now there's
a chance to kind of save it. But here's the thing, like,
this is what not enough people ask themselves. I understand
(03:28):
that the big ten, the SEC are gonna survive because
of the gigantic TV numbers money that they're getting I
believe the Big twelve will also survive. They're getting a
handsome amount, and then there'll be a fourth conference.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't think there's just gonna be three.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
There's gonna be something else out there, whether you combine
what the remnants of the ACC and the remnants of
the PAC twelve, where the Pac twelve becomes this power
West conference and think at them, and you know, maybe
there's two big ones and then three smaller ones. I
don't know, but college athletics, I always thought, why do
(04:04):
you go think of the teams you went to, the
teams you cheered for as a kid. Now sometimes it's because, well,
that team was awesome. Like how many Miami University of
Miami football fans are there because they were awesome?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, look, I grew up. I grew up literally
fifteen minutes from here in City of Orange. I was
an Oklahoma football fan. Why because I used to flip
it on and they were awesome and they would then
they would lose in the Orange Bowl and then you
had dudes walking around with AK forty sevens and that
thing didn't go well. But they were cool, and I
became an Oklahoma fan remarkably end up going to Oklahoma State.
(04:40):
But for the most part, the school I went to
see the most was UCLA. My sister went to UCLA,
she was a cheerleader, My brother went to UCLA. We
went to UCLA basketball, Ucla football fans. Even though we
have no My mom's a Syracuse saalum.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
My dad's inn.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ohio stated Loum, we have no ties to it. It's regionality,
right And your rivals are you? Your rivals are cow
Your rivals aren't you? You know they used to have
a great when Don James was at Washington, used to
be a really good rivalry with UCLA, super high talented teams.
You say it was just never great in terms of
consecutive bids towards a Rose Bowl Arizona basketball again all
(05:17):
in the same region. Well, we've destroyed all that, with
all the conference shifting, all the one hundred year rivalries.
It's like, yeah, we've been playing you for a hundred
years and our conference are schools aligned, but we're gonna
go get a check and then the other thing that's
damaged and this has nothing to do with it, But
it really is all about greed, and I on some level,
(05:37):
I don't blame athletes now because the schools have become
so incredibly greedy towards it, and some is it's just
out of survival mode. They don't get any money from
the state anymore. This is the way you create revenue.
But schools aren't loyal to conferences, so athletes aren't loyal
to the schools. And the other reason I always thought,
(05:57):
you watched a school player, you fell in love with
the players, you saw him. You remember when he signed,
he kept an eye on him. Maybe he played a
red shirt as a freshman, he worked his way up
and by his junior year he's, you know, an all
All Conference player by his senior yor maybe he's an All American. Right, well,
those days are they're not completely gone, but mostly gone.
Because if you don't play as a freshman, you're like,
(06:18):
I'm out, you know, And if you don't play.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
As a sophomore, you're definitely out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you just kind of bounce around school school or
sometimes you play and another school that maybe has deeper
pockets says like they're not supposed to, but you get
word through intermediaries because the players are allowed to have agents.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It moved.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Hey, if you move, you're gonna get twice the money,
So there is absolutely no loyalty, and college sports is
one hundred percent about loyalty. When I was on the
first ever espn U show, it was actually from Stillwater, Oklahoma,
and I only know three oh four oh five, right,
(06:58):
that was it was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That was a lunch date three.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the initial ad campaign, which was a really good
one for ESPNU, was never graduate. It was the idea
that no matter where you go, no matter what you do,
your school is you cut me open and an orange
blood comes out, and there is zero loyalty to conference,
(07:21):
zero loyalty to coaches, and of course coaches because of
that loyalty of like I'm gonna bounce to the next
thing as well, and the players have acted in kind.
The number one thing about college athletics, by my estimation,
is loyalty and love of school and university above all else,
which builds the rivalries and then of course regionality. All
(07:42):
that's gone. And I don't think we're the better because
of it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I just don't. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's funny because Oregon and Washington potentially going to the
pack or the Big Ten is not what USC would
want for them, and that's it's because USC wants to
be so even of everything that you've just talked about,
of all the changing and how everything is different, that
(08:14):
is different like that, that is you know, Penn State
joins the Big Ten, and I know it's thirty years ago,
but it fit like it may have been the school
that was the farthest east at the time, but it fit.
It fit with the Ohio State, it fit with the
Michigan and the Michigan States, and honestly even Nebraska fit
(08:34):
like it. It worked for Nebraska may be better off
in the Big twelve or in the Big Eight, but
it wasn't craziness to put Nebraska into the Big Ten
and to hear the Oregon and Washington thing and then
hear the schools that maybe know them the best not
wanting them there.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Everything's upset done.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, that's again out agreed because hey, we want to say,
you know, in recruiting in southern California or in all
the California, we're the only school that's in the Big
Ten outside of UCLA. And you know, at USC, they
feel like we recruit a different level than than UCLA does, right,
So that the it's fascinating and the only thing that
you can count on is change, right, and we and
(09:16):
the crazy part about the sport is, in many ways
it's better than it's ever been because, yeah, because now
we're gonna have a playoff, like a real playoff.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's better than it's ever been.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Because because of the real playoff, and because of the
twelve teams, teams are gonna have to up their schedules
in order if if it gets close, you're gonna have
to have played somebody. It's better than it's ever been
because the TV coverage is just phenomenal and you know,
you go back in the day and you know, Notre
Dame was NBC and every we'd have it just a
couple of games.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now there's not a game you can't watch.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But despite the fact that so much of it's better,
it's a lot worse because I mean, I just you're
an Ohio State fan.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How many of their starters can you name?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Today's it'd be you know, it'd be difficult, but it'd
be you know, get in.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Twelve you can gain twelve starters.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I mean, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be the twenty two,
is my my point.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right, So I like, as I I know I could
probably do three at Okla mistake sure three right?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Three?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And that's my school. I couldn't do like any other school.
There's a couple of everybody knows Kayleb Williams. Can anyone
name anybody else.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Who plays at USC? This is USC?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, because everything changes like I don't even think guys
at Colorado know who the guy is sitting next to
them at the lie in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Hey man, what's your name? Steve? Where are you from? Then?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
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Speaker 1 (10:57):
So this is year of coming here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I think it's your six You're six of coming to
UC Irvine to watch the Rams practice. And every year
is different and distinct until itself right, like when they
drafted Jared Goff, it was all you know, like what now,
a sudden change is here? And then he was supposed
to red shirt his first year. Then he ended up playing,
and then by year two you're like, okay, golf, girly,
(11:24):
this is a good club.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And they end up going to a super Bowl that year.
The super Bowl. The first Super Bowl year, you walked
in and you knew they were going to be good.
You knew they were going to be good.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Then they lost most of their offensive line after that
year and it was a down year. Right then they
recovered and when they got Stafford, you felt like that
year it's going to be special.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Last year you had.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The sense of man, they went all in and it
was a short off season, and everybody got a new deal,
like Cooper Cup got a new deal. What's the name
of the defensive line, Aaron Donald got a new deal,
Lesnie got a new deal. Remember there was talk of
Sean McVay leaving. He got a new do.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Everybody got paid. But that doesn't always.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It felt like there was a there was a cliff
they were walking off of, and then injuries and there
and of course they're losing Stafford and it became a Cliff.
This year you walk in, You're like, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There's some pieces you like, but the the.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Their whole thing was draft picks don't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
F them picks, and now everything is you know, we
could be really good if.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
These draft picks of the past two years are good.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's just a completely different way of looking at your
team and building expectations, and there's just so much unknown,
so much unknown. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb
Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
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(12:59):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
By searching FSR. Let's welcome in Less Need. He's the
general manager of the La Rams.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Two years ago won a Super Bowl and we were
sitting here last year and we thought you would get
a new contract.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Then you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like literally, I'm driving home and my phone blows up
and was like, oh, let's need agree. You know, it
was announced your new contract, but what's fast.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Was done while was doing your radio?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, it was and it was done probably a long
time ago, and you just waited to announce there.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I forget that timeline.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So, okay, this is every year we've come here. It's
been different, right, Like I remember when you got golf
and all of a sudden it felt like, okay, they
got it, they got their next quarterback. And then by
year two he felt like he belonged. And by year
three now the sudden contender felt like for a while.
And then obviously when you brought in Matt there were expectations.
(13:50):
You guys lived up those expectations, won a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Everybody kind of got new contracts, but there was so
much change, especially in the lines, and then you had
the injuries. You couldn't play up to the level that
you wanted. This year feels like an unknown to most people.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
You know what the great point expectations is to take
it step by step a little bit like when we
started this thing, and even in all of those years,
and I'll go back to what year was at the
twenty one season that we won the Super Bowl. When
you're at training camp and when you start, you can't say, hey,
let's go win a super Bowl. You still have to
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get through training camp, get through preseason, get through the season.
In that year we had to weather a three game
losing streak with a buye so over thirty days without
a loss in that process, losing Robert Woods but on
board and Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So there's a lot of change.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So point being it, like we always say, let's keep
the main thing the main thing. Let's try to do
something good for Rams football today.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
That usually leads to.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Playing quality football on Sundays, which usually leads to wins
which you lose, usually leads to chances, you know, to
compete for championships and tournaments. But it's still one step
at a time.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Lesnie joining us general manager of the La Rams, Doug
Gottlieb show here live at the Rams training practice. We
got walked through about to getting away. Then of course
they can have a practice a little bit later on.
We appreciate you taking so much time.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Do you need go no cliche? Huh just to say
you just probably were thinking. He just gave me the
most cliche answer. But I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
A little bit cliche if.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You knew the intensity that Sean has during a lot
through and the standards for what you would realize, Okay,
one step at a time, like that walk through. Oh
if these guys aren't dialed in and there's mental errors,
Oh that the next two hours for Sean is so
just I knew you were thinking, Oh, what a cliche answer.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
There was.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
There was some cliche, but part of cliche answers are
accurate because yeah, they've been repeated time and again for
a for a reason. Matt Stafford and obviously injury tough
injuries season last year, talk of him retiring, talk of
him being traded. Now he's back and he's healthy. How
would you characterize Matt Stafford with your franchise?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
You know what's really neat is the part on the
health part, because you could see an OTAs. Wow, that's
why Matthew Stafford probably was a five star if they
had stars back then, while it was one overall pick
I after.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
His they had stars back then.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
By the way, when he signed at Georgia, I was
working in the ESPN radio Melchiper Junior. He's like that
guy's even number one overall pick like he had that
Lord Tortu.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But he they were they were stars. But yes, go ahead,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
So watching him in OTAs uh And then this year
I was able to I was down at the Manning
Academy and was able to see some of the better college.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Qbs throw the ball around.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And however, many years into the league, Matthew Stafford is
compared to that. You're like, okay, wait a minute, that's
a that's a six star. They may be five stars,
but his armt so to see him healthy. The neat
I would say. The rose of last year's thorn was
in Matthew's case, probably in Cooper's case and Aaron Donald's case,
is when those guys so many years in their league
(17:12):
actually have to sit out more than half the season,
there is an element where wow, you you take time
to reflect the I actually miss playing this game. So
there is some roses to last year's thorns, but the
health is the number one.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, I know, and we always already had Cooper granted
just a hamstring, okay, but you know you missed, you
missed all the time last year. And of course he's
had you know, previous injury going back a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
What's that like?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
As you said, to watch him and he thankfully just
a hamstring the other day.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Thankfully, just a hamstring and a minor hamstring.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Because if you've ever if you've ever probably had a
let's call it a kid in high school and you, oh,
it's a hamstring, and most people think it's a year,
a week away and you're back.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's usually not the case with ham creen springs.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It's usually is a four to six week process, this
depending on strength, this one being minor. The neat thing
with Cooper is seasons not till thirty nine plus days away.
There's plenty of time to get that hamstring ready. He's
a veteran, he'll be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What about Sean? You know there there was taka Sean
going and doing something else. Signs a big contract last year.
Obviously now he's married, kind of is it has? What's
he like from your perspective in terms of how he
goes about his daily business?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I think that was one he would tell you this.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
He's articulated in many ways that the let's call it
the the rows of last year's thorn for him, distress
and drudgery had had caught up to him.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
It's I mentioned the people all the time before.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
However long he's been our head coach, probably the moment
he got the play calling job in Washington, probably two
years before we hired him. He had been running an
eight hundred meter competitive eight hundred meter every day. Wasn't
going to be able to sustain that, But like anyone,
there was this element that he had to age into
it realize, okay, wait a minute, I got to do
(18:58):
some things differently to be able to sustain this pace.
And the pace is not being Okay, we're gonna run
an eight hundred meter every single day. It's gonna be
we're gonna run some eight hundred meters, but we're gonna
be really, really, really fresh when we do it. And
there's a way to do that, and I think that's
what he was able to intentionally set his mind to
(19:19):
this offseason.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
What's it like for you, Lesnie joining us here in
the Doug Gottlieb Show live at La RAMS training camp.
For you, you know, two years ago it was we
don't need the picks, We're going for it now. So now,
as you said, it's kind of going back to the
past where you need these young players, first and second
year players to develop me. You had a litany of
fifth and sixth round picks this year and they're you know,
(19:42):
fighting for their survival right now, what's that like for
you to evaluate and put your ultimate fifty three roster together?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
The neat thing is, even in the past we have
had to rely on players in their rookie contracts and
key roles, we might have had a few more veteran
core players to mix in with them. So this year
being different is instead of Jalen with with let's call
it players on their rookie contracts, it may be all
(20:13):
players on their rookie contracts in the in the defensive
back end. So that's we've been through that before. We're
used to relying on players on rookie contracts important roles.
This year we're going to have to rely on more
of them. And interestingly through it all and I get
all the reasons why that's the narrative, but probably in
the last six years we're probably I know we're either
number two, three, four, but I think we may have
(20:36):
climbed the two after this year with fourteen picks that
over that time span, we've basically had the second to
third most draft picks in the draft.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So we've definitely valued draft picks.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
We have used some of our early draft picks differently
than let's just saying drafting.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Sure, And I would also it also changes though your
preseason plan for the games, right because Sean has always
play my starters. But there's so many young guys fighting
for spots. Doesn't that change who you're playing?
Speaker 6 (21:05):
When you play, it will not be like years past,
but it will be like years past. And I know
he had some names, you know, because we do have
players like Rob haven't seen Tyler Higbee, some players that
have been here since our first Super Bowl into the
second Super Bowl. So the player the team does have
some core veterans that will get the let's call it
(21:26):
non preseason play treatment, but there is an element of
trying to engineers as competent a collective as possible. And
because we mentioned we're gonna let's talk the defensive side
of the ball, there's a lot of players on their
rookie contracts on that side of the ball other than
Aaron Donald, and so we're gonna need those guys to
jail during the preseason.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Of the things you've seen in your time in the NFL.
And I know he's not part of this team now,
he's fighting for his spot in Tampa, Baker coming in
with almost no prep, run.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A two minute and winning you a game that I.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Mean, there's the won a lot of highlights last year
because all the injuries, right, that strikes me as as
remarkable a wins as you can think.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
We mentioned Roses to last year Thorns. I think I
had mentioned this to Baker that somewhere along the way
twenty years later, when we're all sitting around talking about
football and there's gonna be some really neat moments on
the timeline, but in the midst of that very bad
season for us, that's gonna be a moment we're gonna
talk about. You're gonna that story is gonna get told.
(22:27):
That is that is I mean, what did you get
here on Thursday? Yes, yeah, that's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, they played on Sunday and Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Vegas had to lose a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure why they're impressed man coverage
in that play either, but hey, you'll you'll take it.
I mean, but to run a two minute when you
I mean, we just played a cut with Justin Fields.
He just now a year in learning the two minute Baggers,
they're like fifteen minutes like I got it, learn about it.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You know it almost interesting looking back in that tell
them about two minutes. I've heard quarterbacks, the young quarterbacks
say that when you do get in the two minutes,
sometimes there's an element. You're going fast, it's not you
don't have a lot of time to think. Yeah, so
there's just an element not necessarily easier, but they're just reacting.
They're playing QB like they used to, where sometimes as
you start a game and you get normal down in
(23:16):
distances and you're listening to coaches and you're trying to
strategize and you're overthinking it when you get in two
minutes like okay, wait, this is backyard, this is high school.
I've done this before.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Give him credit.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He has that, he's got kind of that that's in
his DNA. He's Baker Mayfield's made for that moment.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yes, and it was. It was it was something to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Last thing we mentioned all the young players, and you're saying,
we think we're probably second most young guys. There's no
hard knocks out here, right, So the beauty to hard
knocks is you find like a young guy and you
follow him.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You have so many is give me, a young.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Guy who has really impressed you, maybe more so than
even when you dress.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Would be a tough.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
It'd be like the Bachelor, whatever bachelor show there would be.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You'd give fifty roses.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You could give who would get your first impression?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Rows, Oh, watch this rookie long snapper, rookie punter, rookie kicker.
And we only have those three on the roster, those three,
and they got a lot of responsibility. Are they gonna
win the job? Are they gonna actually be useful to us?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I thought you only have those three in the roster.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah, only though so, but technically there's a cuts and
things like that.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But I give those three. The reason I say M
is to non answer, kind of keep some guys.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Rookie long snapper is a lot like the baggage handling people.
You only talk about him when something goes wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And the punter is like about six foot five if
you if you YouTube, he's dead lifting and cleaning and
he's never held before because he was punter and kicker
at win Gate College.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Have you ever heard of win Gate?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I actually have heard which state? North Carolina?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
There you go, So point being, we had to teach
him the hold.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I love that I could pull great pull hey basketball,
it's at the basketball a little bit, yes, but point.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Meaning you had to teach him the hold.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
And now you've got a whole rookie operation. So I
give those guys and they're actually doing a really, really
really nice job.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
All right, Less, I appreciate your time. Obviously, it's tough
sledding out here and intervine with with the breeze coming
off the ocean the eucalypsus trees. But continued health to
your team, keep Cooper and Bubble rapp and we can't
wait to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
See you a week one of the season.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Thanks for having me, all right, that's a lets's need,
the gentle manager of the La Rams.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottleb Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to
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Speaker 2 (26:16):
Stuck Gottleep Show here on Fox Sports Radios. Fourth year
wide receiver for the La Rams course part of that
Super Bowl winning team two years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's Van Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
How are you good?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Good?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Pretty like for walkthroughs, and it felt a little bit
more intense than you've been through Shawn's walkthroughs.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What's he like this year's most other years?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Yeah, you know, I think he's just you know, being
on a details about everything. You know, Uh McVeigh loves
everything about the details. So you know, everybody just come
out here trying to you know, perfect that, and you
know walk those as a part of the game. And
you know before we go to practice, you know, you
just want to script those plays and you know, get
ready for practice.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
When you saw Cooper go down the other day, what
was in your brain?
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Oh? Man, I mean, Cooper's just a great guy, so
you had unfortunate see that. But you know he's gonna
bounce back and be back soon. You know, it's just
something that's gonna you know, that's so small and it'll
get uh, he'll get back quick. So you know, we're
excited for him to get back and do what he does.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Your first two years, there are huge expectations you walk
in as a rookie, huge expectations of the team. Second year,
you guys win to win a Super Bowl, right, and
your role was way bigger, maybe than even you thought,
obviously because of injuries around you.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What's it like? This is a weird year, right where
people just.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Don't know, they don't know what to make of your club,
and the division seems like kind of the same thing
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
What's it like this year in terms of the energy
leading into the camp?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, I think you know, it's a lot of unknowns,
you know. Uh, of course last year that we didn't
want you didn't finish the season that we wanted to.
But you know, we got a lot of young guys.
We got a lot of young talent around us that's
gonna come in and make an impact for us. And
uh so I think it's just a new energy that
we have, you know, just to come up and you know,
prove everybody wrong, you know, and we're just taking it
one day to time and uh you know, perfecting that
craft now so we can when we get to September,
(27:57):
we'll be ready.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So I got to ask you about that, the two
minute drill we talked about with with Less. I went
to the Rams Raiders game, right. I go to the
game and Baker had been there for like five minutes. Yeah,
and he's leading you guys on a two minute drill.
What's for a guy who you played football your whole life?
What's it like to see a guy do that?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I mean I don't know. I think he was here
like a day maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
So it was crazy, just you know, him coming in
and you know, them throwing them throwing him into the fire,
you know, and he handled it like a g you know,
he's tended like a straight pro, and you know, he
was more excited than us. About the opportunity to go,
you know, to do a two minute drill and to
lead a comeback. You know, I just remember him in
a huddle before we got off the field. He's like, Hey,
come on, let's grond, let's grond. So I just knew,
you know, something's going to especially that happened. And you know,
(28:41):
the play that I always remember, you know, is been
the Ben's coronic play where he just moss the dB.
So that play right there kind of gave us momentum,
and you know the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It gave you momentum. But you caught the ball to
touchdown with nine seconds ago. See wait, see a line
up and I think there are like fifteen seconds on
the clock. Right, Yes, you're in the twenty three yard
line and they're impressed man coverage.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, well, what's going on in your brain?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
I'm like, give me an op? You know. I was
just like, hey, throw it my way, you know, cause
you know, like you see, like you said, the corner
was impressed, and then I've seen the safety come down
and I was like, oh, it's one on one coverage.
So you know, I just knew Baker was going to
give me an op. And you know I made the
most of that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What's that what's that feeling like? Like game winning touchdown
catch Sunday night football? Considering tough year, but what's that
feeling like?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
That feeling was great? You know, Like I said after
the game, you know that my first time ever catching
the gamer in such sound in history. You know, I
didn't do it in the high school North College, so
this that first time doing that. It was it was crazy,
you know, and just to celebrate with all my teammates,
and you know, this was a feeling I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know that the balls in the air, are you
thinking like, don't drop? Oh yeah, for sure drop this.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
In my mind, I'm like, you got to catch this.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You might.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
We might not have an opportunity. They might not the
next player might not come out and play mine coverage.
So this might just be the only time you can
make the catch.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
There's a ton of dudes out here who nobody knows
who they are. Do you know how many percentage of
the ninety that you you actually know their name?
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Yeah, it's thirty six rookies. I think I don't know
if I can I might can name all their names.
I'm not sure, but I haven't. Uh, I could probably not.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Hey, man, dudes, what's your what? What is it man?
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Or what what do you? What's your what's your go to?
Speaker 8 (30:17):
It's just what's up?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
My man?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What's man? What's up?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You got my man?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You got broe, you got dude? Dude around here? All
depends on what he looks likes. He looked like a bros.
He look like a dude.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You look like my man, my man.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Don't call anyone boss. I can't stand that one though.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No boss, No, I hate boss Starbucks boss that boss.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Which is bro better?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah up bro bro up Bro so up up up
bro bro. Uh how Stafford looked?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
He looks great?
Speaker 8 (30:46):
You know, I think you know he's you know, he's
done a great job in the off season, you know,
just with with everybody. You know, I think this year
he's just more focused than ever. And you know he's
just a great leader of this team, you know, a
great quarterback. And you know we go behind him, so
we know he's leading us and he looks really great.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
When you say he's what what is his leadership style?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
You know, just getting on you if you got if
you you know, he's very punctual about what you need
to do. You know where he needs to line up,
where you have to be, the assignment that you need
to know. So he's kind of control of that and
you know he'll let you know him. That's what you
know you need in the quarterback to you know, let
you know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Have you seen the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Video of Trayvon Diggs and and uh.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dak, I did see?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Okay, what would happen if to Stafford or how would
Stafford's reaction be? Or I like my thing was like
no wide receivers, no lineman. If one of your cornerbacks
called him a female dog back end, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Here?
Speaker 8 (31:39):
I don't know Matt as a as a competitive do
so I know that you know it'll be some drawn
back and forth and uh, you know he.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Was weird though, like that just kind of like okay,
through the bottom, like walked away. But I usually you
call somebody the B word and usually guys they might
not come to blows, but they chested up really really quick.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, so I feel like Matt. Matt would definitely say
something that Matt was a competitive do I can't speak
for his actions of what he do, but I know
that he'll definitely, you know, row up and you know, you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Know, there's only there's only two ways to know you've
made it with the Rams, right, one is you get
the big contract.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The second part is you don't play in the preseason.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Are you playing the preseason?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I have no idea right now, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You want to play in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I mean whatever the coaches do, you like?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's actually it's like a double win if you don't
have to play, because it means you're good, right, you matter, right,
I guess the other guys it means they don't matter, right, Like, man,
you don't matter, you can get hurt, we don't care.
But like his deal is, if you matter, you don't
play in the preseason games.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you know, everybody, I.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
May have played that seed his head down now by way,
do I matter? Do I not matter? But they're writing
it up on the board.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a great opportunity
for a lot of you know people to come out
there and play. You know, preseasons is where you can
showcase your talent. And you can showcasch your allent to
other teams, you know, and I feel like, you know,
if coach asked me to play, then you're not going
to play. But you know, at the end of the day,
you know, it's all about football and just going after
the play.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Are you glad your dad's out of the division?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Now, Carolina, but for you know, during your time he's
to the Arizona I think for pretty much all your career.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yeah, uh, I was. It's kind of I'm kind of
glad and know because you know, I like playing these
my dad. I like, you know, the competition we have
during the week of us talking trash back and forth
for each other.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, now that he's going you call him a
ba you.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
And for those that may not know, Sean Jefferson, Van
Jefferson's dad, a veteran wide receiver who I can use
in immaculate grid for a couple of teams.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
But yeah, now a member of the Carolina Panthers staff.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Yeah, so he's you know, you know, he loves seeing
his grand baby, so you know, he's kind of booming
that he had to move all away across the Carolina
So but you know, it's great for him.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He loves it.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
You know, he's from the South and you know he's happy.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I mean he'll be happy once that humidity cuts right.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah yeah yeah, absolutely, hey man, best of Luckted season,
get get to get Cooper.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Healthy and we can't wait to see on the field.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes, sir, thank you, Van Jeffers in the course, fourth
year wide receiver for your la rams joining us in
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