Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five
East twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your
local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching apps Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We'll be talking NFL action getting ready for the upcoming
season in a matter of twenty minutes. Glad to have
you with us. Monty Belanios is here, as is Jason
Stewart and John Ramos. As We are all broadcasting live
from the tierrac dot com studios. Tyraq dot com will
help you get there non match selection, fast free shipping,
free road hazard protection and over ten thousand recommended installers.
(00:38):
Tierrac dot com the way tire buyings should be. You
got a lot going on over there, like you. I mean,
you got phones, you got dishes. You've got to know.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I almost knocked over coffee. It wouldn't have hit any
of the electrical equipment though, so it just would have
landed on the floor.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So John Ramos, if I said to you, what web
page does Aaron Torres have.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Up on a screen?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I had something up.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
As we are doing a sports talk show. What would
you say.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I would say, like a college football or college basketball website.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh, he's not He's not far off.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's work appropriate.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I had.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I just saw that somebody got a promotion at South
Alabama basketball. So I clicked a Twitter link. I was,
you know, I was listening to Mansi's update and I
saw Twitter link that caught my eye.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
USA, USA, shout out to the Jaguar. Yes, so the
guy never stops.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I just I saw a link that that caught my eye.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey, I wasn't doing it to the clown. I was
doing it because I'm impressed. Yes, and I've always been
impressed with this idea and how it's come to fruition
is it's now a staple on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's time for he's not getting.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
It's time for the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So Aaron I, I know that we have done shows together,
and I think we've done some midway, but if if
just to refresh your memory and anybody who's listening, this
is the time of week where we bring everybody in
and Doug always came up with the topics to give
to Jason Stewart to talk about. Right, isn't that, Jason,
Isn't that how it always works out? Yeah, that's it's
something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
By the way, you have to remind people this is
the middle of the show and it's the middle of
the week.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
That's true. It's the midway. Then, that's why it makes
sense to me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's the midway, the midway. John John missed the drop
because he was dancing. True story like that. That was
a true story. He was doing his thing. All right,
what are we what are we talking about today?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
At the midway?
Speaker 7 (02:43):
This is a Dann Bayer special. He came up with
us and I love it the so it did pass. Okay,
we are so it is the the greatest or most
memorable almosts.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Now.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
You could do it in sports, you could do it
in your your private life. You could do it in
your private sports wife. I guess, just to throw out
an example, Gordon Hayward had a chance to make history
in twenty ten. I don't know if you guys remember
this game, Aeron, I don't know if you remember this, but.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The website build up right now. They played Duke.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
They could have but become the first mid major to
ever win it or whatever the however you put it.
Gordon Hayward took a shot, he missed it almost made
sports history. That's my example, tangible example for the greatest
almost that I can recall Dan.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And this comes on the heels of Alex Cobbs almost
to no no. I think we kind of are whatever
with no hitters, but honestly, as they're happening, and then
what it would mean for the person to accomplish it
still a pretty big deal. Like it's still a big
moment in San Francisco last night, broken up top of
the ninth inning, two outs, but you almost have a
no no, and it's not. It's also it's not like
(03:55):
all right, top of the ninth inning, he's gone eight
innings so far, no hits, leadoff hitter, at the play ah,
there's a base in and there goes the no eiter,
Like we're down to the two outs, like there's get
this guy and you're done, and the no no is
yours the final out of the twenty seventh out. How
close it got me to thinking in my first and
I haven't been close myself, but a hole in one,
(04:19):
and there are people who have multiple hole in ones,
but There are also people like me who maybe have
hit a flag stick on a golf course, but have
never had one that was truly like it almost went in,
like it stopped an inch from the hole for an ace,
or it rimmed you know, around the cup and then
went out. Never has that happened to me. But when
(04:42):
I thought about almost, I think of when I see
a lot on TikTok, what I see on Instagram, how
close you come to hol in ones? Is this considered
a hole in one if the ball is actually lodged
between the turf and the actual cup. I think of
like the hole in ones and how elusive it is
because if you don't get a that time, it's not
like you can just tee it up again from one
hundred and sixty yards and do the exact same thing.
(05:04):
You may fly one into the bunker right, you may
go long, you may hit it thin. It like truly
has to happen in that point, just like Alex Cobbs
probably not going to carry a no hitter into the
ninth inning of his next start. Like it's like you
have to take advantage of it, and holand ones or
what popped into my head there, you.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Can my midweek midway.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Were you waiting for uh the million way?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, I was a but anyway, so I'm gonna
go kind of abstract, kind of more in that no
hitter one out a way as opposed to an individual play.
I heard Bill self, you know, I'm a college basketball guy.
I'm looking at the roster at South Alabama right now.
I heard Bill Self say this once and it always
stuck with me. Is the worst game you can lose
(05:49):
as a college basketball coach is actually in the Elite eight.
Because he said, you lose in round one of the tournament. Well,
you made the tournament. You lose in round two, while
you won a game in the tournament. You lose in
the sweet sixteen, while you made it to the second weekend,
you lose in the final four. You made it to
the final four. There's no silver lining really about losing
in the Elite eight. And I was thinking about all
(06:11):
these kind of quote unquote great coaches. You know of
Matt Painter, like, well, he does everything in the regular season,
but he's never made a final four. College basketball is
maybe the only sport where it's not about winning the championship,
it's about getting to the final four. And so to
fall short almost make the final four, that's mine.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Think about the guy whose name is on the show,
Doug got Leaves college career ended in the Elite eight
when Oklahoma State lost to Florida in the two thousand
NCAA Tournament. Dougie's talked about that, about being so close,
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I didn't even know that. I mean, I knew he
played in the I didn't pltwo and two together, but
that always stuck with me with Bill self, and apparently
Doug has said much the same on this show.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
MANCI.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
When you guys texted me this, I thought of two
different scenarios. Instantly, I thought of, wasn't in two thousand
and seven the New England Paige's almost literal perfect season? Yes, right,
Like that's the first one I thought of, where it's like, man,
that that one's got a hurt, losing literally in the
last possible game to the Giants. Then I thought of
(07:12):
in twenty eleven when Chris Paul almost became a Laker, almost.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Became Laker, and uh, I thought they were going to
say something different for twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
What is you say?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Go ahead? Oh you guess?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Oh you I thought you were going to say the
World Series were the Rangers were not once, but twice
one strike away from winning the World Series. And then
David Freeze did his thing.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
See, I thought you were going to say that she
almost hit her a three pointer in high school and
that basketball.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Game fly I did.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
I did.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I even got a technical because I left my hand
up like this.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's like Al Bundy. Four touchdowns in a single game.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
The only reason we know about this is because we
were talking about technicals one day and Manzi's like, after
I hit my seventh three, I kept I kept my
follow through as I ran back down the court, which,
by the way, is a bad raf. You be Eric Lewis,
(08:19):
you know, yeah, timely reference, you're gonna make that sort
of call.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
The mid.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I would say, on the heels of the almost no
hitter last night, by what what was that team again?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Giants?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
The Santransco Giants, Giants, Giants Remember Armano Galarraga. He was,
He actually pitched the perfect game. He did, he did,
And you should always err in the side of you're
out in a close play, but Jim Joyce decided to
err on the side of your safe and by the way, Galoraga.
(08:57):
I think the next season was I got sent down
like triple A. He just was never the same picture
after that. So that was an almost that should have
been a most There is.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So many things of that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Remember the Tigers the next day had Galarraga handing their
lineup card. Yes, and then Jim Joyce was crying and
like I felt like it was to like rub salt
in the wound, like, look at what you did us.
Now you're gonna have to deal with this. And here's
the other thing with the Jim Joyce call. And I
don't know how you feel about it, Jason or John
(09:28):
Aaron Monzi. There's a perfect game, and perfect games don't
happen a lot, but when they show montages of perfect games,
right it's the final out, Jim Joyce actually had the
opportunity to make the best punch out call totally just
knocked the guy, you know, like on a call that
(09:49):
would have been shown in history, people would have been like,
remember Galarraga's perfect game. Yeah, Jim Joyce had the great
punch out for the final out, but no, he goes safe.
We never see the highlight again. And Galarraga has got
the no hitter and Jim Joyce. That's all that we
know him for us for blowing that call.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And really quickie, before we get to move on, remember
that giant, that forty nine ers guy that dropped the
ball against the Rams. If he were to have caught
that ball, they were from almost people forget that, Yeah, forget,
I'll forget that.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Yeah. On on a personal level, and this tortures me
almost on a daily basis. And if you're a father,
you understand this one. So I was coaching my son's
little league team. My son has a passion for baseball
that matches no other. He loves baseball. He loved playing baseball.
(10:38):
He wasn't very good, but he loved being a part
of a team. His personal successes were few and far between.
I'm the manager at third base. He hits a ball
in the left center gap. Okay, he's not fleet to foot,
He's lumbering around the bases. The ball comes in to
the cutoff, managed short stop John. And what does a
third base coach do?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I held? Now, you held about that second at third,
right third? Okay?
Speaker 7 (11:04):
It would have been his only home run of his wife.
He reminds me of it to today, because the odds
are of a ten year old making that throw from
from Mike short left to home and the catcher actually
catching it and then tagging my son. And even if
I did send him in that happened, I would have
had no regrets. But instead, it's like the one thing
(11:26):
that just kills me about my son's athletics, and it's
a it's a It's one of those almost that I
wish I never had.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Was it one of those parks without a fence, so
the ball just kept going.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
There was no Little League fence, but there was a
a fence, and he did hit it to the fence.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
That's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Seventy of the gap by speaking of not close calls,
but on that I was a pitcher in eighth grade.
I've never been a pitcher, and they wanted me to pitch.
I played on a field that didn't have a fence
and a guy hit a ball so far the center
fielder just turned around its sarted sprinting the other way
because there was no fence that was going to keep it.
If it was offense, it would have been over. The
(12:06):
only close thing that I can think of. I we stunk.
We were zero to nine my junior year in high
school football. But we played a rain game, and this
was in Steven's Point, Wisconsin. See what's the point was
pretty good. It's pouring. It was the only reason that
we were the game was actually close because it gave
us somewhat of a chance. I could have had a
(12:26):
ninety nine yard interception return for a touch Whoa, I
stepped in front of this pass. I still see it
to this day, thirty years ago, and I put my
arms out and I watched the film like I've already
taken three steps down the field. It was wet, the
ball ricocheted off my arm, and then they actually caught
it for a touchdown, which is even worse. But I
(12:46):
was already running. I was like at the five yard
line already without the football. I still can remember it
to this day. So here, Alex Cobb is probably gonna
be thinking of why did I throw that pitch and
give up the double when I did? Heck if I'm
thinking about a stupid thing when we didn't win a
game all year, I can't imagine what it's like for
a major league baseball pitcher. That's a good one, geez.
(13:09):
That would have been the highlight when we would have
only have lost twenty one. Tone, I was gonna ask that.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Story.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I caught a past that game, and this is not
me reliving my high school glory again. We were zero
to nine and I was tackled at the one yard line.
And the only points we scored that game were we
because we fumbled on the next play, recovered and then
we're able to tackle them for a safety. It was
the only reason that we scored. But I was a
yard away from scoring. Oh so close. A what a
(13:40):
crazy night. It was, all right, that's the midway. That
was fun, the midway. There are a lot of sports
things that you could do. I mean, like I I'll
just say this the Seahawks when they lost Super Bowl
forty nine, Montzi mentioned the Patriots in their perfect season.
When russ uil Wilson threw the interception to Malcolm Butler.
(14:02):
It wasn't losing a Super Bowl. It was losing the
opportunity to go back to back.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So you think about what that all meant, Like we
just look at oh now it's Brady's fourth and won
an awful decision for the Seahawks to accomplish what they
would have accomplished if they would have scored and gone
on to win. That game happened over two full seasons.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So you talk about being so close, like for my
you know, sports fandom, it's as close as you can get.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'll use one more college basketball reference. I remember interviewing
Jerry Tarkanian's son and him talking about the night that
they lost to Duke, because remember they had won the
championship the year before, and then they were undefeated in
the final four, and he was like, you win one,
it's always special, but you win that second one, it
puts you in history, and then they would have potentially
been undefeated. That was the semi final, not the final.
(14:57):
But he was like, it just hit me, like exactly
what you said two years down the drain. They could
never take that away from us, and you know, you're
never gonna have a chance to go undefeated again, back
to back again. Forget all the stuff that was going
on with his dad at that time with the school,
but I remember him vividly saying that, like being in
that stadium when you know whatever it was, with six
(15:18):
seconds to go or eight seconds ago, knowing that you
can't win that game, He's like, it was just a
worst pin in your stomach.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Ever, He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byert.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Doug Gotlib show on Fox Sports Radio. He's erin Torres.
I'm Dan Byer sitting in for Doug. NFL season a
week in a day away. Yes, unbelievable. Regular season is
almost here. College football does ease things with the first weekend,
but I will say on Sunday night and Monday night
feels like something's missing of Labor Day weekend because you
(16:00):
had the college football kind of need that back end.
Maybe like the NFL is the chaser, if you will,
where I know that there's college football in those days,
but there feels like there should be more. Yeah, So
once we get through this, then it's football for the
next three months.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It was weird even like last Monday, there was no
Monday night football game. Like the last preseason game was
on Sunday. Yeah, it's been I know it's preseason. We
need to work on the preseason schedule for TV a
little bit because once again to mid August. I need
stuff on my TV to watch at night, okay, respectful
to the Little League World Series in the El Schooner
Little League team.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I need some football, No, I think Trevor Sikima has
watched the Florida Gators documentary over and over and over
again for the last couple of weeks. Trevor joins us here.
Of course, he's a Pro Football Focus analyst, and Trevor
joins the program here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Trevor, what's going on? Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So is it true that you watched the Florida documentary
like ten times?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Or is it just a one one time watch?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
What do we got?
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Actually, I'm a bad Florida alumnus. I've only seen half
of it. I watched half of it. We had we
had a big watch party, but we started way too
late and I just haven't picked up on it. I'm waiting,
you know, I'm waiting for one of those nights like
you guys said, where I'm I need football. I need
something to watch on my TV. And so I'll finish
it at some point in time. But halfway through and
(17:21):
of course I enjoy it. You know, Florida's national champions
in that timeline, so I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I know we have a lot of football to get to.
I would just tell you I thought the first two
episodes were fantastic, great trip down memory lane. The second
half was just basically urban Meyer distorting the facts of
what actually happened. So I'm just saying you caught the
better part of it. The second half left out a
lot of stuff. That's all I want to add about
the documentary.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
I have unfortunately heard that that is the case, and
so I don't know. Maybe I'll just maybe I'll just
never watch it, you know, maybe I'll just only watch
the first Maybe I'll just watch the first two episodes
over and over and over and over and feel good
about myself as a Fluida fan.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Is the lead NFL draft analyst at Pro Football Because,
speaking of TV, I watched Hard Knocks last night saw
again the propaganda machine of the New York Jets. I'm kidding,
but I do say this, for as much pub as
Aaron Rodgers is getting, it dawned on me last night,
Trevor that Nathaniel Hackett is also kind of going through
a car wash to kind of you know, clean his
(18:20):
reputation as an offensive coordinator, coming off of the disaster
that happened, you know, in Denver last year, what can
we expect from him back in maybe a more familiar role.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But now with the New York.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
Jets, Yeah, I think a lot more relaxed, right. I mean, people,
you know, they look at these coordinators throughout the NFL,
and just because a guy is really great coaching one
side of the ball, it doesn't mean they're going to
be a good head coach. And Denver situation was very
complex with the fact that, let's all be honest, they
(18:53):
got Nathaniel Hackett as their head coach as Aaron Rodgers base.
I mean, that might have not been one hundred percent
of the reason, but it was a big part of it.
And then you swing in and miss On Rogers. He
goes back to Green Bay. Then okay, you get Russell Wilson.
But Russell Wilson kind of came with his own baggage,
and we learned that there was a lot to go
through and Hacket just wasn't ready for it. And to
be a head coach at the NFL level, you're basically
(19:16):
a CEO more than you are a coach because of
everything you have to manage, you know, the connection that
you have to give between the roster and the depth
chart and the front office, the general manager, the cap
guys everything, and so it's so much more than just
being a coach. It's truly like being the leader of
a business. And so for Hackett, I just don't think
(19:37):
that he was ready at that time. Now, does that
mean that he's never going to be ready. No, I
wouldn't say that, but certainly with this upcoming season. Getting
back to your question, I think you're going to see
a much more comfortable, confident, loose with at Daniel Hackett,
especially the fact that he is back with Rogers, who
it seems like they have such a great rapport as
coach and player, and I think it's going to be great.
I think they're going to feed off of each other. Well,
(19:58):
it's a relationship that they get to build off of
instead of trying to cultivate from the very beginning. So
I think this Jets offense is going to not have
any sort of training wheels at all whatsoever. With Rogers,
I think the best of what you saw with Aaron
Rodgers in Green Bay. They're going to try to replicate
that even in this first year with him in this system, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Something I talked about with my Saturday partner, Jason Martin.
It feels like staying in the AFC East, it feels
like there's a lot of boom bust potential with the
Jets obviously, and it feels like a lot of people
are selling Bills stock because of the Stefan Diggs everything
going on there. My point that I made the other
day was I actually think the Dolphins, like of all
(20:40):
the three, the Dolphins, the combination of the way they
finished last year two was health is to well good enough.
I feel like everyone is planning for the scenario where
the Bills completely underachieve and the Jets complete, or the
Bills or the Jets, and I don't think enough people
have thought about the possibility that both those teams are
actually good and it's the Dolphins which are that that
(21:02):
distant third team behind those top two?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Am I? First of all?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Am I crazy for thinking that? I don't feel like
the Dolphins have been talked about in the same boom
bust potential as the Bills and Jets have this offseason.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Yeah, they're not. I think that they certainly deserve to
be because there's still unfamiliarity with Tua even when he's healthy,
and anytime that you have uncertainty at the quarterback position,
I mean, there's obviously boom bus potential. You know. I
think a lot of people are selling the Bills, and
the only reason why I can honestly feel like people
are doing that is Bills fatigued.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Right.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
We've talked about the Buffalo Bills as Super Bowl contenders
for the last two to three seasons, and I think
the Buffalo Bills are unfortunately a classic example of yeah,
you gotta have talent, Yeah you got to have good players,
but you also got to be a little bit lucky
to get to a super Bowl and win win a
conference championship. Like That's just what it comes down to
(21:56):
when you start playing in the playoffs. Is the best
of the best, and it's to take a little bit
of luck in this game to sometimes give you that advantage.
And I think the Bills have been on the wrong
side of the coin, and I think people are just
kind of tired of that. But getting back to the Dolphins,
I agree with you completely because I'm still not sold
on Tua. Now, I think that that roster is one
of the best in the NFL. I love Vick Fangio
(22:17):
being there as defense coordinator, especially once they get Jalen
Ramsey back. Whenever that is, I think that defense is
going to be ferocious. It could be one of the
best in the NFL because about talented it is. But
on the other side of things, sure, I trust McDaniel.
Sure I trust a lot of the speed they have
on that offense. But can Tua get it done against
playoff caliber teams? That's my big question. Sure, I think
the Dolphins can win double digit games. I think that
(22:39):
they've proven that that can be the case. But the
playoffs are a different animal. So it kind of depends
on how you look at the dolphins outlook. When you
kind of talk about, Okay, are they boom or bust?
Do I think they're going to miss the playoffs? No,
I think that you should probably bet on them at
least being right there in contention, it'll be very close
if they don't miss make if they don't make the playoffs.
(23:01):
But when it comes to okay, am I predicting them
to get to the Super Bowl? No, I wouldn't, just
because there's still so much unknown with two, even when
he's healthy, and when you get into the playoffs, you
gotta win. You gotta win at least three or four
games before you even get to that point to be
crown champions. So that's where I still have some hesitation.
And I'll be in the same campus you.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Trevor Sikamau Pro Football Focus joining us on the Doug
Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's here and Torres,
I'm Dan Beyer sitting in for Doug today. What do
you make of Green Bay being the mystery team involved
in the Jonathan Taylor talks.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
Yeah, I don't really get that one.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
You know.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
I think that Aaron Jones is one of the better
running backs in the NFL. I love the one two
combo that they have between Jones and AJ Dillon. I
feel like last year, certainly, when you look at our
data at PFF, AJ Doones one of the highest great
running backs that we have. And it's not because he's
putting up a ton of volume. It's because he's used
in situations that really maximize the strength. They've got a
(23:56):
great one to two combination there with those two, and
so I don't really understand even for a long term play.
I don't really understand the Packers being involved in that,
and to me, it must have simply been them calling.
And then if they made an offer, I feel like
it probably would have been an offer where, you know,
(24:18):
if you put yourself in a GM's chair, you go, hey,
let's just offer them this. If they take it, holy cow,
we're make it out big. But if they don't, which
we don't think that they will, then we move on.
We're fine. It's all well and good. So I was
very shocked to see the Packers' name on there, just
because of how much I like that running back room.
But this league never seems to disappoint. It's never a
(24:41):
dull day, especially this time of year, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I know, in addition to just the standard NFL stuff,
you do a lot of draft stuff. College football kicked
off last week. Caleb Williams was awesome. USC defense was not.
And then of course this coming Saturday, America gets its
first real look at least this season at Drake May.
They play South Care and their opener just really quickly
from your perspective for people who haven't had a chance
(25:04):
to see Drake May. And I know the processes early.
I'm sure you have a lot of stuff on your
end that you're still doing to get ready for this
season and then of course get ready for a draft
that's still nine ten months away. But what have you
seen from Drake May and how do you kind of
evaluate him in the early stages as a prospect?
Speaker 10 (25:21):
Man, he is incredible. I'm actually going to get to
go to that game, so I'm gonna get to see
him in person for the first time this weekend, so
I'm very excited about that and get to do a
little in person scouting. But this dude's the real deal.
I mean you even go back to the beginning of
college football last season. I mean he was a UNC.
They opened up against app State and We're sitting here
watching on TV and I'm like, who is North Carolina's quarterback?
(25:41):
This dude looks absolutely incredible, and then he continued that
play throughout most of the entire season. I mean forty
four big time throws. So at PFF, we have a
little bit of different statistics. We don't just go off
of touchdowns and interceptions because I don't think that those
stats tell the whole story. So instead we break them
up into things called big time throws, which is exactly
what you would think. It is a big time throw
by the quarterback or a turnover worthy play. So, hey,
(26:03):
if you hit a DV straight in the hands, he
didn't catch it, you don't get an interception. We don't
think that you're blaming there. You hit him in the hands,
and so we'll give you a turnover worthy play. When
it comes to those top end big time throws. Drake
May was unbelievable forty five total last year, eight point
five big time throw percentage, which was fourth in the
entire country. Now that's him as just an underclassman coming
(26:23):
into this season. The sky is the limit for him.
I mean I have him right now at number five
overall my preseason big board. Anybody who wants to get
a head start on the twenty twenty four NFL Draft
and get over to PFF dot com. We already have
one hundred and fifty players ranked for the upcoming draft class,
and I got May at number five. And there is
certainly reason to believe that at the end of the day,
when we get closer to April, it could be Caleb
(26:45):
Williams one Drake May two, and that might be the
order of the upcoming NFL draft as well. I feel
like he's got all the talent in the world. He
approaches the position so well. Just a little bit more
consistency with him eliminating some of those turnover worthy plays
and just increasing the ball placement, the accuracy. It's all
right there for him to be one of those top
quarterbacks next year.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I think it's a perfect way to wrap this up.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Congratulations on the promotion to being the lead draft analyst,
taking over from Mike Renner at PFF. I know there's
a lot of intive plate, but I know you absolutely
love it. So congrats Trevor. It's a job well done.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
I appreciate it, I really do.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Man.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
We're gonna have a blast. This draft class already looks
so talented at all the different premium positions, and so
I'm excited to talk about it for the next eight, nine,
ten months, whatever it is, man. So I appreciate you guys.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Hit them up at Twitter, on Twitter, on X whatever
the heck you want to call it now at Tampa
Bay Tray, Trevor Sikomba, appreciate it, Trevor. We'll talk to
against you man.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You know, and we were talking earlier about John's site.
Remember we did one of the chances. You know it's
zero to one hundred. I asked John, I said, on
a scale of one to ten, how good are things
going with.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
The XXX site? John?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
On a scale one to ten, John goes eighteen and over,
like that's how good it is going so far. On
John's social media site, it's it's I'm proud of you,
Like that's it's really good work.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
By the way, I left my sign up on my
top of my building, it just s it's the triple X.
Remember Elon Musk had to take his down, but I left.
Mind the three x's up there.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You get any weird knocks in the middle of the night.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Or no, And it's just kind of it's just going forward.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It neighborhood's just totally cool because I live like like
half a mile from you. So now I'm worried that
you're going to bring some you know, interesting characters into
the neighborhood the CD environment.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't I don't mean to exclude Aaron you or Moncy.
But there was a time when we were talking with
Doug and Doug couldn't remember the name. It was amazing restaurant,
and he's like, what it's like triple X, But I like,
highly doubt that that's the name of the family restaurant
that you went.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
To, Triple X Family Restaurant.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
My favorite part of John's new social media site, the
Triple X, is that that one section that you titled
only John's kind of a take on OnlyFans, but it's
only John's and it's a double entendre, you know, John's
and John's.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, my wife says, I don't have a really good
inkling for business, but I think I do.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Actually, yeah, I think this is a hit. I really
sign up right now if you can.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It hasn't launched yet, but things are going so well
that scale of one to ten what was it again.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Eighteen and over?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yes there.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Draftkicks sports Book is an official sports betting partner of
the NFL. Download the Draft Kings sports Book app today
and he's goed Gottlieb for a special offer when you
sign up. That's code Gottlieb only at Draft Kings Sports Book.
That's John Ramos, Jason Stewart, Montzi Blanos, It's me and
Aaron Torres sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today here on
Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next, an NBA ref
(29:50):
is at it again. We'll explain next year on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. And Dry with
a fly ball to right, hit pretty well back ford
his march. He's out near the wall.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
That ball is gone.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Brandon Dry to the opposite field, pitch a two run
homer off Kemberl and the Angels have reclaimed the lead.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That was the Progressive play of the day. Progressive is
making things even easier. They'll help you bundle your home
and car insurance together so you can save on both.
Learnmoreroprogressive dot com or one eight hundred Progressive. He's erin Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. That highlight courtesy of Bally's Sports. As the
Angels rally for a ten to eight victory over the
(30:43):
Phillies today in Philadelphia, they had the lead, they gave
up the lead, they tied it, and then they ended
up winning it. So the Phillies winners on that two
run shot courtesy of Brandon Drury. So hey, Otani had
the chance to be the hero but struck out, and
then Drury ended up being the hero for the Halos today.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, too little, too late, Yeah for the Angels. You
know who's always on time? Manty Belanos, press, the press.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I am never on time.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I'm Latina.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I barely show up on time. So you're the opposite.
My wife is like, we got to get to the
airport at eleven am for a seven pm flight, so
you're the exact opposite.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I'm the exact opposite.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
She's just trying to, you know, change it up. No,
I am definitely a Latina, and you gotta tell me
I got to be somewhere three hours before and then
I'll be on time. Okay, guys, let's talk about this
NBA referee Eric Lewis, if some of you have forgotten,
Right before the finals, there were some tweets that have
now been deleted from what people thought was a burner account. Basically,
(31:49):
this account was defending the referees and officials against critiques
that the fans were making because some of the calls
were terrible.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
It's true.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
So the league open and inventstigation into whether Lewis violated
the NBA rules by speaking about officiating in an unauthorized
manner and that this was a burner phone. Well, today
Eric Lewis informed the league that he's retiring, effective immediately.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
So guess what the league.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Is ending its investigation into his social media activity.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
How convenient is this?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Why are we wasting everyone's time? This is this is
what's so.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
We talk about documentaries and shows and Netflix has those
untold series that was the Johnny manziel One and Florida
to Yeah, and the Florida One as well. That Tim
Donahey one h I say donaghy. Now, I don't know
if people say you know Tim Donaghe, but his it
it was so shady. But what was even crazy about
(32:51):
it was that Scott Foster, who we all know and
love to talk about Chris Paul in Come Playoff Time. Oh,
Scott Foster refae had this connection with Donahe where they
were like best buds and there was tons of correspondence
between the two. But the NBA wanted to be like
lone wolf. Yep, right there, he's the one and that
(33:13):
was kind of the message that was sent, but that
doesn't resonate. Like again, it just seems like not that
a burner account is on the level of fixing games
at all, right, but it's just on the you know,
whether it be David's turning out under Adam Silver's watch,
it's just the all right, nothing to see here, we
don't have to worry about's move on our league's great.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah yeah, one, the lone wolf thing.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I've never agreed with two. I don't get burner accounts.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Like I don't either.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I just I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Care enough, especially like I mean, this guy's a referee,
So it's a little bit different than say, like Kevin Durant,
Like I just don't care enough about what somebody who
knows nothing about me thinks to one even respond, let
alone create the fake account to defend, Like what is it? Like,
what is that guy's end game? Does he He's gonna
go on Twitter and convince Joe Smith the angry Philadelphia
(34:05):
seventy six or oh, you know what, Eric lewis, He's
actually not a terrible ref you know what, I actually
think he's pretty Like no, so what what are we
even doing?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Thanks for changing my mind. El forty two.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Eric Lewis moves up my power rankings
of those NBA refs. Now, I mean he's like that.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's so I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I can't think of enough clever things to say on
my own account, let alone.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
Too, right, Yes, Twitter, way too much work, way too
much work, all right, guys. So earlier this week we
heard Kelly Stafford had some things to say on her
podcast the Morning after a terrible name about her husband. Well,
what does Sean McVeigh have to say about that?
Speaker 9 (34:44):
I'm not concerned because I think, if you know, Kelly,
I took that as more of a joke at the
old man. And I'll be honest, there's a couple of
throws that he made during training camp where I wanted
to say yes sir to him as well. So he's
done a great job being able to I mean, if
you watch and if you come out to camp, this
guy's done a phenomenal job of leading connecting with his teammates.
(35:06):
I think it's one of those deals that becomes a
fun narrative in a dead period.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Coach I spinning it.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I gotta say two quick things.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Number One, somebody needs to get a Sean McVay impersonation.
I don't know if Kelly endo does one, but if
he doesn't, like it would be perfect.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Number Two.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
As a Seahawks fan, I hate to say this, I
love Sean McVay. I mean that's the right thing to say.
I mean it's corny, you know, but like like like
he like he gets it doesn't make up for what
Kelly Stafford said or Osbond said, even though he tried
to cover it up.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
But I am a fan of.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I was a little surprised when this became like a thing,
like a talking point, because I had the same perspective
as Sean McVay. It's the middle of April or August,
there's nothing going on, preseason is over. People need something
to talk about. And then people were literally like, well,
what does it mean for the locker room? Are they
going to be able to survive this? And I was like,
I think everyone's gonna be okay. Like I don't think
Matt Stafford is going to be eating lunch alone in
(36:05):
the cafeteria because of what his wife said on her podcast.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
It was more just which Dan and I said.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's like Why did you say this?
Speaker 8 (36:12):
What was the point of this?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
You know, like Kelly, Yeah, Well, I just think when
you have you know, sometimes when you have a microphone,
you just start talking. I mean, I'm not gonna lie
and say that I listened to it.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But she should have blamed it on Eric Lewis's burner account, and.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
We tie it all in together. That's the press may
get out there and pressed that was the press.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
If Eric Lewis had a real burner account, should it
be at Eello?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
John Ramos is that no, doesn't use that.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
That's that's it's Joe one of John's favorite bands. Maybe
you know, are you a fan of Eello?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Never heard you hear this song?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Before we go to our top of the hour.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Torah's and music are like oil and water.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Jason Martin made a music reference that went and my
defense to Segre didn't know it either. Saturday night would
be an all right night for you guys to fight.
But I digress. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. It's
been the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.