May 16, 2024 • 33 mins
Doug riffs about the NFL schedule release. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's exchange with Falcons' quarterback Kirk Cousins. Plus, Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, you want hit the open guys.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Alrighty, all right, this is.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What up Doug Godlib Show, Fox Sports Radio in the
Boneiness You're a liven the Tyrock dot Com Studios. Okay,
so yesterday was schedule release day, schedule release day only, yes,
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and people geek out about the schedule release. We make
fun of the old Mic and the mad Dog. That's
a win, that's a lost dog, that's a loss. That's right.
That's when I was a kid. I think I told
the story. I've gotten an age where I tell stories
and people are like, we heard the story before Grandpa. Anyway,
when I was a kid, we used to go back
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to New York every summer, usually late in the summer,
in late July, early August, and we'd listen to Mike
and the Dog and the schedules would come out then
then and they go, they go to the schedules and
they that's a win, that's a lost. Yesterday, the schedules
came out and usually, I mean, everybody's different in how
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they look at it. If it's your team, you look
at your team and what games do you want to
go to? Maybe you freak out if it's an early start,
all those all those different things. But if it's somebody
else's team, something completely completely different. Jace, do you I
know we usually do your annoying and we've had so
many tweets and texts and ig mentions that it's people's
(01:55):
favorite part of the show. But you have a special
hate for this because you hate the way what our
industry covers it is that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Right, correct? I can appreciate everything you just said about
when it's your team. I think you could look forward
to this day. It's a chance to think about the
NFL and all this stuff. The problem is what like
debate shows and national radio shows do with it. It
usually becomes a lazy mail it in. Let's do the
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overs and unders, all right, we could take the Vegas
has got the overs and unders reach team. Now we
got the schedules. Now let's see which teams are going
to go over, which teams are going to go under.
And they're basing it on what they're basing it on
last year's performance they're based I mean, we have an
entire draft, free agency, new coaches, injuries, we have all
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this still to happen before opening day, yet we're gonna
have these definitive predictions about overs and unders.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Of course I completely agree with you, but the overs
and unders is what it is. I actually think I
understand why our industry does it, because that's that's the
lifeblood of our industry. The absolute lifeblood of our industry
is gambling, right, and so that's why we do it.
By the way, I mean, how fired up my you know,
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in my time in Green Bay where the opening night
for the Green Bay Packers is a Friday night kickoff,
and that was the one that jumped out to me.
So I didn't do the over and under on it.
I did the ooh in green Bay, my first I'm
going to I told you I'm gonna go to lambeau Field.
Now I get to go on a Friday, which means
it frees me up for the whole weekend, and that
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becomes cool. That's unique. Every football town is different. Green
Bay is, you know, becomes a gigantic city, but there
is a certain college part to it where you know,
people come in for a weekend, come in it's a
special occasion. And I do wonder how this Friday night kickoff,
which is after the Thursday night came. How that affects
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the city, how that affects the game, what it feels like,
and of course then of course then there's the actual
and then you know, for both those teams, they probably
like it because they get an extra couple of days
off before they play their second home game of a
second game of the season. So it kind of a
fascinating thing that way. But I actually get why the
industry does it, because they're basically doing overs and unders
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without doing over unders, or then they now they can
you can just do it over and under what we do.
But you are a Charger fan. Do you mean to
tell me you didn't look at your schedule?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
No, I took a glance at it. I have no
idea what this Charger team is gonna be about. In fact,
I'm on record is saying that I'm more than happy
if they don't do well because I trust the process
and I trust the guy in charge. So it's like,
I guess anything won this year as a bonus for me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But no, my bad. That Philadelphia game, by the way,
is neutral location. Where are they playing that?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Uh, Philly Chargers.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
No, Philly Packers. Oh, oh, let's give me in Britain.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean Eagles Packers is in Brazil.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The opening game is in Brazil. That's so weird.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I thought that's what we talked about on the pod
a few weeks ago. That Amazon. I mean, I'm sorry,
the NFL is in the Zuopa phase. So they're gonna
put an opener on Prime in Brazil and see if
people watch.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Actually it's in p on Peacock.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Peacock South Polo game and they will September people watch.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, people watch and remember peacock. You're like, well, I
don't have peacock. I won't get peacock, like the Olympics
for the summer, Like I don't like the Olympics. And
they're like, you do you want to watch Olympics, And
then you're gonna have to get peacock. And everyone's wives
and girlfriends are gonna tell them because guys, women love
the Olympics, the all the all the other sports guys
just like you know, I want to watch track and
field and uh and and men's basketball. That's weird. That's weird.
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But okay, so did you look at your charger schedule?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Mild way, I watched the I watched the I guess
they did kind of a take on some animated series
or a game called SIMS. I'm too old to know
what that is. They did a SIMS mock up of
the schedule.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I don't know SIMS. SIMMS has been around a long time.
I have no idea what that is. It's a simity,
must be a moomo. Yeah, it's millennial simulation. Well it's
been around. I think the game has been around for
thirty years.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
See, you create little cities with people's the simulation of life.
You never played SIMS, Doug sim City?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean it was like, are you talking about like
sim City?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I think it's the same thing, yeah, the SIMS.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, well then sure absolutely, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You were you you have someone like have a job,
and it's like playing life but on a computer game.
Have a house applient.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, I mean, I I did think. I mean the
Chargers playing the Raiders in Vegas on opening night on
Opening Day, which I love the matchup of the game.
It does feel weird that it's an afternoon game, Like
that's a great rivalry to LESCo goes from Chargers to Raiders.
You got Jim Harbaugh. I mean, I guess it could
be a big CBS game, but that one strikes me
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as odd odd.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No, Jay, Yeah, it takes a lot to get me
interested in this stuff. Really well, yeah, it's mid May.
I don't know if I could be more clear about
my lack of interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean, like, look, so what I do is I
like scheduling quirks. Like, man, that's quirky Vegas. They play
the they play the Raiders on the road to start,
and they play the Raiders at home the last game
of the season. That's so weird. We're gonna play game
one and Game seventeen. Sorry, that's just odd to me.
(07:52):
Odd to me, But I do agree with you that
the geeking out about the schedules, especially when you get
after a week one or week two, when you don't
know who's gonna be healthy. There's so many things you
don't know. You know, you're you're thinking in your mind, okay,
that a rookie is going to play, and you have
no idea that that early in the season, and then
once you get to week six, seven, like the rosters
can look totally different because of injuries completely But what
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I look for, what I'm looking at schedules is things like, Okay,
I'm interested in the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm interested in Russell
Wilson and how long that runway is? He opens in Atlanta,
then they go to Denver. But so Russell Wilson quarterback
Pittsburgh Steelers very likely to be the starter. He's the starter.
Their second game is in Denver. That doesn't interest you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I think everyone says that's a game we should circle
on our calendar.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Ah, it's not that, but but isn't it a game
that you should circle on your calendar.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I don't think anyone's ever circled a game on the calendar.
But that's a that's an idiom. Is that what Sam
taught us the other day? It's an idiom? What's the
example on your calendar to be and literal?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I don't know. I mean it's kind of literal. Hm,
raining cats and dogs is not literal.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It is raining cats and dogs outside? It truly? Is it? Truly?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Truly?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is no? I mean it, like literally, right now I'm
looking outside, it's raining cats and dogs.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
It was very sunny and nice the other day.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It was amazing. It was amazing. It's supposed to be
eighty this weekend. But it is it is raining cats
and dogs outside Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,
I don't know, Like I'm I'm I'm kind of hedging
in between Jay Stu on the schedule thing because I
I understand what you're getting getting at. I understand that
the people, but part of it is and I actually think,
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if I'm honest, you know, my story taking my coaching
job one of the reasons it's it was such or
it has been such a big, gigantic story.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It feel like before all of a sudden, it gets
a little.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Sort of time, right like PGA Championship, NBA playoffs, you know,
WNBA kickoff, Like this is not really this is a
schedule release, and because nothing else going on, and it's
the biggest sport and you had the and you have
all the gambling. I think that's what it kind of
comes down to, you know. But I do like the
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kind of quirky rams at Detroit on Sunday night. Jets
and Aaron Rodgers once again open Monday night, this time
in San Francisco. Of course there's the old San Francisco
didn't draft him thing. I don't know I think those
things are cool and clever, and they they sort of
work for me. But I understand the pushback over like,
what are we really doing? These are games where we
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don't know anybody or any of the details of it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
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Speaker 8 (11:02):
What say.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Here's Dan Patrick. He had this exchange with Falcons quarterback
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
If you had known, if I gave you a do over,
you know Minnesota's going to take JJ McCarthy and you
know Atlanta's going to take Michael Pennox.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
No, I just don't think it's helpful to deal in hypotheticals.
I mean, you can do that with any scenario at
any point in your career. If this, then what and
you can go down a lot of trails. But I'm
excited to be here in Atlanta, be the quarterback of
the Falcons. I think we've got a great opportunity to
win a lot of games here and have a lot
to look forward.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To up ahead.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So you're watching the draft and then you get a
heads up, but thirty seconds before the pick.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Yeah, maybe a minute and a half, you know, it
wasn't much.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
So then you call your wife and you say, what.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Basically what the team told me that, hey, they're going
to be drafting a quarterback, and you know, I think again,
I'm just like, I'm kind of rehashing with you. I
remind my wife, Hey, this is this is a big
part of my story, going back to when I committed
to Michigan State, going back to when I was drafted
to Washington, and it's always had a way of working
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itself out, and so let's draw on past experience to
trust that the future, you know, can be the same.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, like, listen, I understand it feels like,
you know, it feels like it's not the right thing
to do. It feels a little icky, but it's also
the business and you roll with it and as long
as people treat you with respect when you're there. I mean,
the big thing with Washington was, yeah, he was the
second quarterback taken in that draft and then remember when
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he left, the president of the team called him Kirk
Cousin instead of Kirk Cousins, and that would piss anybody,
anybody off. You know, I thought nothing has done more
for a human being that The Quarterbacks Show did for
Kirk Cousins. Going back to last season. I don't think
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that was I don't think they put out an image.
I think that's who he really is. But I also
realized that, look, if you're going to take a hundred
million hour check, you don't get to tell them what
to do with the rest of the roster, even if
it doesn't make sense to draft a backup that early
in the first round. Here's two bros and a cup
of Joe talking about the Jets schedule this season.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
LaVar Arrington is probably feeling a little bit more confident
about a bold proclamation he made on the show earlier
this week. You see guys like Brady and I. We
have thrown our support into the New York Jets and
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah we have.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
We have one of the all time greats. Go out
and stop hell yeah Jet. And we've done our part
to try and defend Aaron Rodgers, and defend Robert Sala,
and defend the New York Jets. Organisms And apparently the
NFL is on the side of LeVar Arrington because the
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schedule has come out, and the New York.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Jets got absolutely host.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
You talk about a chop job from the National Football League.
You open up on Monday night, you're at the Niners.
Then you're on the road in week two at the Titans.
Then you get a home game, but it's on a
short week against the Patriots. You get the Broncos after
that at home.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's not bad.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
Yeah, and then you're going to London. You've also got
two Sunday to Thursday turnarounds. And everyone's like, well, you're
being featured in primetime, as they should be, but they're
being featured in primetime and they're also getting dealt a
bag of crap by the NFL. And I'm sick of it.
I'm tired of the disrespect about what you just said.
That's all manageable. What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's a tough schedule, man, it is tough schedule. But
there's no t that gets discussed more in comparison to
their actual production as a team than the New York Jets.
There's a beauty to it. The beauty to it, and like, look,
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you have of your first what six games, three of
which are at home, you know, and one is a
neutral site against Minnesota. That's not a bad schedule. Yeah,
So I don't I don't see it as being all
that difficult, and I don't care. And this is where
I get to the bitching about it. That's where I
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get to the I don't care. That's that's where Jay
Stu and I start to agree. Here's Rachel Nichols talking
about the Celtics.
Speaker 10 (15:42):
If you're a passive mister, saying, why in the world
was it a one possession game when more than half
of the Cavaliers starting lineup is in the bench and
street clothes, including their best player Downovan Mitchell. So these
kinds of questions is what I still have about the
Boston Celtics. And I do worry about them. I've seen
the Vegas odds, but I do worry about them in
the next round because let's say it's the Knicks or
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the head ahead in that series. Is Jalen Brunson going
to take no for an answer against the Celtics defense
if they still don't have Kristaps Porzingis, who, by the way,
he started doing light shooting on the court the other day.
He is not close to returning. He's not coming back
for the beginning of this series. So, with the way
the Knicks have been rebounding, how are the Celtics going
to respond without KP. I sat here on the set
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in September when we were previewing teams, and I said,
I love the Kristaps Porzingis pickup. If he can stay
healthy for the sixteen games, that it matters, the sixteen
wins that they need to get through the spring, and
already that hasn't happened. Now they might not need him
until late in the conference finals or maybe even the finals,
but it just begs questions. And I can't sit here
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and say I believe in them to win the title yet,
even though I think they could, but they haven't convinced me.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I get it. But but if you're not in on
the Boston Celtics coming out of the East, who are
you in on? You're in on the Knicks, Okay, it
just doesn't feel like they'll have enough juice in the tank.
You in on the on the on the Pacers, they don't.
They don't defend either. And if you want to pick
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out the fact that christophs Ferzingis is not healthy, that's
totally fair. Totally fair. And then once you get to
the finals, right like, you're thinking about matching up with
a team like the Denver Nuggets or a team like
we think the Dallas Mavericks. Mavericks obviously feel like a
better matchup for the Celtics than the Nuggets are. But
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this is one of those. My pushback to Rachel would be,
it's okay to say you don't believe in the Celtics.
It doesn't make sense to not believe in the Celtics
and come up with somebody else to come out of
the East. That's really what it kind of comes down to.
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
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Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You know.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Nicki Glazer she.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Killed it through. Its very popular, well ever.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Since she's done the circuit, done every talk show imaginable
since she's really capitalizing on this roast, So of course
I was forced to do kind of a deep dive.
I went down a rabbit hole on her last night.
I wanted to see what her other content was like,
and I can't believe I saw this. Uh, this was
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annoying to me, Doug, the way she takes a shot
at you in one of her acts.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh we're trying for a baby. Oh we're gonna have
a baby. We just had a baby, baby, And it's like, yeah,
I know, but like eventually it's just gonna be so
dude named Doug. You know that, right, Like.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
It's just gonna be a gue, Like it's always baby,
but it's like that's a baby this much of the.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Time, you know it, and then it's all dougs, Like
it's just a no one's ever like, oh, we're having
a man, that's what you should say.
Speaker 9 (19:21):
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What a dog you want to Doug.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Man. Man, that's tough. That's really really tough, really really
really tough, really tough. That's annoying. That's annoying that you
pick up. I don't think. I don't think if Doug is,
I think Bill, Jim Steve.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
What about a Chad or a Todd?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Those were George Carlin's names.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Todd, Kyle, Chad.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I actually have a cousin, Todd and Chad from the
same family. It's just kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
M some dude named Doug.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Some dude named Doug. I think we need to put
that in the open. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
That is good Doug's life name.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's interesting because I always hated my name. Did I
ever tell you guys this one? I wanted my name
to be when I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
What's Maximus?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Mike, Mike, Mike my dad's two reasons. One, I felt
like Doug was was different. It was just different. And
the cool kid in my neighborhood was Mike Cook. And
I actually named every goldfish I ever won, had any
fair I ever wanted Mike. We had like Mike one,
Mike two, Mike three, We had like Mike twenty three
or something like that. And it wasn't over Mike. It
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wasn't because of Michael Jordan. It was because of Mike Cook,
who was the cool kid down the street, which I
would guess Mike Cook wasn't really the cool kid. He
was the high school kid that probably smoked cigarettes and
had a mustache and some sort of muscle car. But uh,
that he worked on out in the yard. But Mike
Cook was the cool kid, and I wanted my name
to be Mike. Now I liked that my name is Doug.
I really do. What else is annoying it?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Ron Washington, He doesn't annoy me. The angels always annoy me.
They could be in this segment every day. The angels
annoy me. I have friends that are angels. We have
a group text, and I just make fun of the
angels all the time. I don't know if you saw
it the other night, but some guy named Guillero mo meme, guierum,
guiero ma.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It's a second basement. They tried to do a a
What do you call those bunts where the runner comes
from third base? What are those bunts called? Do or die?
Basically bunts? And the batter missed it, and Ron Washington
was asked about it after the game.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Lefty on lefty, I didn't sink a ball left hander.
I didn't want him to hit into a double play.
He can handle the bat. He didn't do the job.
It wasn't anything I did wrong. He didn't do the job.
We're in a pictures a while and take it at
suffer to get Wow, he's trying to ball in the
strike zone. Why are you making excuses? He was trying
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to ball in the strike zone. He did not get
the bunt down.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Period.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I think it was earlier in the season when he
was asked about some kind of a strategy and the
third baseman didn't make the play, and like he got
really angry. Ron Washington is answering questions like he's been
there like six years and he knows it's his last
year and he's just throwing people under the bus and
getting testy. What's going on with Ron Washington and your team?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Though?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I mean they stink? But again, like what how do
you not like the no excuses thing?
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I kind of like the way he said this. You
just don't see managers do that unless they know they're
not going to be back or something. He's in his
first couple months of the team.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean they're team stinks and their
best players hurt and they're the Angels, So that's what
it is. What else annoys you?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I think just to settle down a little bit, I
think Ron needs to get back on the powder, you know,
just to kind of maybe take the edge off a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Wait wait, wait, you think being back on the powder
is going to take the edge off.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
No, I just wanted an easy joke to talk about
his cocaine use. It made no sense, but I wanted
to shoewarn it in there. So, uh, Connor, or.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
How long wait? How long ago was the cocaine thing?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Well, he did as a player, but then like within
the last ten to fifteen years he was caught again.
Right when.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, man, so I think it's it's a hell of
a drug. I think I think it's still I think
it's still I still think it's fair game. You know, Like,
I don't want to be a hypocrite because now people
come after me with a credit card thing that's twenty
eight years old. I just want to make sure that
they what is the what is the statue of limitations?
On on on making fun of the fact that he
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he at some point in time probably mistaken the foul
line for a line of line of the white.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There you go, that's a good one. That's a good one.
This this is what annoys me about the Harrison. But
but boy, it's so. He spoke at a Catholic college
and he basically said that women's number one job should
be as a homemaker and you should embrace that about
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being a woman and stuff. And of course, I mean
this has the entire left side of the political spectrum
up in arms, and I get that, but what annoys
me is that the NFL has no idea what to
do with this. They put out a release today saying
that that that his they don't share his views or whatnot.
(24:43):
This is where we are, like politically and society wise,
where like somebody says something and then there's like this
political calculation of how we need to handle it, and
then inevitably the NFL is going to piss some of
their fans off because a lot of probably agree with them,
and then you know they they're not going to do enough,
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Like they're not going to suspend him or cut him.
So that's not going to make the other side happy.
Like there's just no way to win these battles when
guys say something like this, and I'm always going to
go back to one thing. He has the right to
say whatever he wants. We are born with a right
in this country to say whatever you want. You obviously
can be held accountable for your words. I'm annoyed by
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the fact that the NFL is, like you could tell,
it's attempting to see which way the political wind has
gone on this before they say anything. And then there's
like a petition of our of our one hundred thousand
people that want the chiefs to cut him. So it's
it's just going to be interesting to see how this
plays out. And everyone's in his uncomfortable spot because in
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this day and age, you just you can't take a
definitive stance on something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, so what was his definitive stance Chase two?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
No, I'm looking for the exact comment here. So, speaking
at a commencement, I want to speak directly to you
women briefly, because I think it is you the women
who have the most diabolic lies told to you. Some
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of you may go on to lead successful careers in
the world, but I would venture to guess that the
majority of you are most excited about your marriage and
the children you will bring into this world. Embrace one
of the most important titles of all homemaker.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, yeah, I don't know what he's doing there.
You're good with that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, I'm not good about that. I just I'm annoyed
by the fact that It's taken a couple of days
for the NFL to come out to separate themselves from it.
And I'm annoyed that everyone's got to go through this
political calculation because the NFL, I don't know, piss somebody off.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Right, Well, I mean, look, I would like to think
that Harrison Budker didn't just say go back in the
kitchen and make me a sandwich. But that is how
it lands a little bit right, and he is right, like,
you know, I mean, I think staying home, Hey, staying
home and being a homemaker is an unbelievably important job.
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It really is. And if you have the type of relationship, okay,
if you have a type of relationship where the husband
in this case can be the type of breadwinner where
you don't have to go to work, you can build
a remarkable bond with your kids. It should be embraced.
But it just lands poorly, right, It lands poorly, I think,
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you know, like if I was to do the the
old what the Suddener're meant to say is, look, you
can choose whichever you'd like. You can choose to go
into the business world, you can choose to stay at
home and understand that if you stay at home, that's
an amazing decision. Amazing hey, but it doesn't make choosing
to work any less amazing. There are sacrifices with both,
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you know. I think the part that I always that
always kind of got under my berg, got under my saddle,
is I've never liked that the idea that women when
they leave home somehow it hurts them more. And then
it hurts a guy to leave their kids like there's
not there. I mean, is there anything worse in the
world that when you have little kids walking out that door?
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I mean, I've told people before the reason I left
ESPN was I was working every afternoon and then most weekends.
And I remember going up on a day off when
I was trying to clear my head and figure out
if I wanted to take the job at CBS. And
my son was two years old at the time, and
I went in the playroom and kissed him on the
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forehead and he said, Daddy, go work, and I was like, no,
I'm here. I'd got the day up. But the idea
that anytime I kissed him on the forehead he would
think I was going to work just showed I was
working too much. And that was his perception of me.
But there's sacrifices for either side. If you work or
don't work, you go to you you're the homemaker or not.
I think that one landed really poorly. That's my estimation.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
So the annoying part of the Harrison Bucker thing, which is,
no matter what happens, it won't be enough to satisfy
one side, and then if whatever punishment happens, will piss
off with the other side, and then Ron Washington throwing
his player under the bus. The angels are annoying, period.
And then the first thing we brought up, Nicki Glazer
(29:53):
going after you and her stand up.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't think Nikki Glazer going after me and the
standback is annoying. I'm flattered. You want to throw up
my name and make it like and bring it and
bring it normalcy. I'm good. But I did name Doug,
some dude named Doug. I don't want to talk the angels.
The fact that I cannot pay attention to the angels
and know that when I look at the standings in
the aos, I can start at the bottom and expect
to see them and then work my way up, and
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they have landed right where I thought they'd land that's
annoy Why.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Because we can.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You talked about this a little bit yesterday in this segment.
Aaron Rodgers did a sit down with with Tucker Carlson
and everyone's pissed off about it and they don't want
him to have that platform. And this was this was
one of their exchanges. By the way, I would I
would recommend watching or listening to this if you have.
I've got a couple hours to kill whatever. I listened
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to the entire thing on my way out to see
my son yesterday, and it is compelling. I can't believe
that there is a an actual star quarterback in the
NFL right now that takes these extreme stances on things,
that takes a risk with his reputation, with his business.
I think that's interesting. I know most people just wanted
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to say fuck Aaron Rodgers because he's anti vox, but
I think it's interesting. And this was an exchange with
Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
What used to make America great? Like how can we
get back to that? And that's why I love people
who want to stand up for what they believe in,
like yourself and and the stuff you would talk about
on your show was people. But nobody else is doing
that though you know, their cow to their coward, their
cow talented. Well yeah, I get it, but we're a
country of cowards now. People are not willing to stand
(31:48):
up for or stand up to the people that are
in charge. Well, what was it for you?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Are you just like fuck it?
Speaker 11 (31:55):
Like I'm going to say what I want to say?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, when was that moment where you decide? You decided it?
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go do it myself.
I think the problem is that when you talk about
things as facts which are provably false, you know, and
and look, Aaron, Aaron has a credibility problem. Let's just
be honest. He has a credibility problem that now he's
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become this defiant anti vaxxer. But when he was put
on the spot, remember when when when it all went
bad for Aaron regarding vaccinations, is that's when he said
I was What did he say? I was inoculated? What
was this the actual word immune? Immunized? Right? He lied?
He lied, and he he gave a soft landing spot
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to people who chose not to be vaccinated or actually
had a kind of a kind of a harsh you know.
But he didn't say we, he said they like dude.
You know, so he has a he has a credibility problem.
You know that the only reason he's come and become
this anti vax guy is because he was at one
point in time scared to reveal whatever his truth was. Like,
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it does give you, It actually makes you respect Novak
Djokovic more because of what happened. Basically missed out on
what two Australian opens because of it. Sure, so I
understand what Aaron's saying. I don't know if we've become
a nation of cowards, but I also think that if
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he's honest, If Aaron Rodgers is honest, he would tell you, hey, man,
I have a credibility problem. And it hasn't been the
same ever since I lied at that press conference. Why
can't play for you? Because we can? All Right, that's
it for in the bonus podcast. This is the Gottlieb Show.
Check out the radio show if you listen to pods
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it rolls right into it here on Fox Sports Radio.
Okay, you want hit the open guys.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Alrighty, all right, this is.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What up Doug Godlib Show, Fox Sports Radio in the
Boneiness You're a liven the Tyrock dot Com Studios. Okay,
so yesterday was schedule release day, schedule release day only, yes,
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and people geek out about the schedule release. We make
fun of the old Mic and the mad Dog. That's
a win, that's a lost dog, that's a loss. That's right.
That's when I was a kid. I think I told
the story. I've gotten an age where I tell stories
and people are like, we heard the story before Grandpa. Anyway,
when I was a kid, we used to go back
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to New York every summer, usually late in the summer,
in late July, early August, and we'd listen to Mike
and the Dog and the schedules would come out then
then and they go, they go to the schedules and
they that's a win, that's a lost. Yesterday, the schedules
came out and usually, I mean, everybody's different in how
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they look at it. If it's your team, you look
at your team and what games do you want to
go to? Maybe you freak out if it's an early start,
all those all those different things. But if it's somebody
else's team, something completely completely different. Jace, do you I
know we usually do your annoying and we've had so
many tweets and texts and ig mentions that it's people's
(01:55):
favorite part of the show. But you have a special
hate for this because you hate the way what our
industry covers it is that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Right, correct? I can appreciate everything you just said about
when it's your team. I think you could look forward
to this day. It's a chance to think about the
NFL and all this stuff. The problem is what like
debate shows and national radio shows do with it. It
usually becomes a lazy mail it in. Let's do the
(02:22):
overs and unders, all right, we could take the Vegas
has got the overs and unders reach team. Now we
got the schedules. Now let's see which teams are going
to go over, which teams are going to go under.
And they're basing it on what they're basing it on
last year's performance they're based I mean, we have an
entire draft, free agency, new coaches, injuries, we have all
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this still to happen before opening day, yet we're gonna
have these definitive predictions about overs and unders.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Of course I completely agree with you, but the overs
and unders is what it is. I actually think I
understand why our industry does it, because that's that's the
lifeblood of our industry. The absolute lifeblood of our industry
is gambling, right, and so that's why we do it.
By the way, I mean, how fired up my you know,
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in my time in Green Bay where the opening night
for the Green Bay Packers is a Friday night kickoff,
and that was the one that jumped out to me.
So I didn't do the over and under on it.
I did the ooh in green Bay, my first I'm
going to I told you I'm gonna go to lambeau Field.
Now I get to go on a Friday, which means
it frees me up for the whole weekend, and that
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becomes cool. That's unique. Every football town is different. Green
Bay is, you know, becomes a gigantic city, but there
is a certain college part to it where you know,
people come in for a weekend, come in it's a
special occasion. And I do wonder how this Friday night kickoff,
which is after the Thursday night came. How that affects
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the city, how that affects the game, what it feels like,
and of course then of course then there's the actual
and then you know, for both those teams, they probably
like it because they get an extra couple of days
off before they play their second home game of a
second game of the season. So it kind of a
fascinating thing that way. But I actually get why the
industry does it, because they're basically doing overs and unders
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without doing over unders, or then they now they can
you can just do it over and under what we do.
But you are a Charger fan. Do you mean to
tell me you didn't look at your schedule?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
No, I took a glance at it. I have no
idea what this Charger team is gonna be about. In fact,
I'm on record is saying that I'm more than happy
if they don't do well because I trust the process
and I trust the guy in charge. So it's like,
I guess anything won this year as a bonus for me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But no, my bad. That Philadelphia game, by the way,
is neutral location. Where are they playing that?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Uh, Philly Chargers.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
No, Philly Packers. Oh, oh, let's give me in Britain.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean Eagles Packers is in Brazil.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The opening game is in Brazil. That's so weird.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I thought that's what we talked about on the pod
a few weeks ago. That Amazon. I mean, I'm sorry,
the NFL is in the Zuopa phase. So they're gonna
put an opener on Prime in Brazil and see if
people watch.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Actually it's in p on Peacock.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Peacock South Polo game and they will September people watch.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, people watch and remember peacock. You're like, well, I
don't have peacock. I won't get peacock, like the Olympics
for the summer, Like I don't like the Olympics. And
they're like, you do you want to watch Olympics, And
then you're gonna have to get peacock. And everyone's wives
and girlfriends are gonna tell them because guys, women love
the Olympics, the all the all the other sports guys
just like you know, I want to watch track and
field and uh and and men's basketball. That's weird. That's weird.
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But okay, so did you look at your charger schedule?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Mild way, I watched the I watched the I guess
they did kind of a take on some animated series
or a game called SIMS. I'm too old to know
what that is. They did a SIMS mock up of
the schedule.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I don't know SIMS. SIMMS has been around a long time.
I have no idea what that is. It's a simity,
must be a moomo. Yeah, it's millennial simulation. Well it's
been around. I think the game has been around for
thirty years.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
See, you create little cities with people's the simulation of life.
You never played SIMS, Doug sim City?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean it was like, are you talking about like
sim City?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I think it's the same thing, yeah, the SIMS.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, well then sure absolutely, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You were you you have someone like have a job,
and it's like playing life but on a computer game.
Have a house applient.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, I mean, I I did think. I mean the
Chargers playing the Raiders in Vegas on opening night on
Opening Day, which I love the matchup of the game.
It does feel weird that it's an afternoon game, Like
that's a great rivalry to LESCo goes from Chargers to Raiders.
You got Jim Harbaugh. I mean, I guess it could
be a big CBS game, but that one strikes me
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as odd odd.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No, Jay, Yeah, it takes a lot to get me
interested in this stuff. Really well, yeah, it's mid May.
I don't know if I could be more clear about
my lack of interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean, like, look, so what I do is I
like scheduling quirks. Like, man, that's quirky Vegas. They play
the they play the Raiders on the road to start,
and they play the Raiders at home the last game
of the season. That's so weird. We're gonna play game
one and Game seventeen. Sorry, that's just odd to me.
(07:52):
Odd to me, But I do agree with you that
the geeking out about the schedules, especially when you get
after a week one or week two, when you don't
know who's gonna be healthy. There's so many things you
don't know. You know, you're you're thinking in your mind, okay,
that a rookie is going to play, and you have
no idea that that early in the season, and then
once you get to week six, seven, like the rosters
can look totally different because of injuries completely But what
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I look for, what I'm looking at schedules is things like, Okay,
I'm interested in the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm interested in Russell
Wilson and how long that runway is? He opens in Atlanta,
then they go to Denver. But so Russell Wilson quarterback
Pittsburgh Steelers very likely to be the starter. He's the starter.
Their second game is in Denver. That doesn't interest you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I think everyone says that's a game we should circle
on our calendar.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Ah, it's not that, but but isn't it a game
that you should circle on your calendar.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I don't think anyone's ever circled a game on the calendar.
But that's a that's an idiom. Is that what Sam
taught us the other day? It's an idiom? What's the
example on your calendar to be and literal?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I don't know. I mean it's kind of literal. Hm,
raining cats and dogs is not literal.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It is raining cats and dogs outside? It truly? Is it? Truly?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Truly?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is no? I mean it, like literally, right now I'm
looking outside, it's raining cats and dogs.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
It was very sunny and nice the other day.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It was amazing. It was amazing. It's supposed to be
eighty this weekend. But it is it is raining cats
and dogs outside Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,
I don't know, Like I'm I'm I'm kind of hedging
in between Jay Stu on the schedule thing because I
I understand what you're getting getting at. I understand that
the people, but part of it is and I actually think,
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if I'm honest, you know, my story taking my coaching
job one of the reasons it's it was such or
it has been such a big, gigantic story.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It feel like before all of a sudden, it gets
a little.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Sort of time, right like PGA Championship, NBA playoffs, you know,
WNBA kickoff, Like this is not really this is a
schedule release, and because nothing else going on, and it's
the biggest sport and you had the and you have
all the gambling. I think that's what it kind of
comes down to, you know. But I do like the
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kind of quirky rams at Detroit on Sunday night. Jets
and Aaron Rodgers once again open Monday night, this time
in San Francisco. Of course there's the old San Francisco
didn't draft him thing. I don't know I think those
things are cool and clever, and they they sort of
work for me. But I understand the pushback over like,
what are we really doing? These are games where we
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don't know anybody or any of the details of it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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and Now.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
What say.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Here's Dan Patrick. He had this exchange with Falcons quarterback
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
If you had known, if I gave you a do over,
you know Minnesota's going to take JJ McCarthy and you
know Atlanta's going to take Michael Pennox.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
No, I just don't think it's helpful to deal in hypotheticals.
I mean, you can do that with any scenario at
any point in your career. If this, then what and
you can go down a lot of trails. But I'm
excited to be here in Atlanta, be the quarterback of
the Falcons. I think we've got a great opportunity to
win a lot of games here and have a lot
to look forward.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To up ahead.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So you're watching the draft and then you get a
heads up, but thirty seconds before the pick.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Yeah, maybe a minute and a half, you know, it
wasn't much.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
So then you call your wife and you say, what.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Basically what the team told me that, hey, they're going
to be drafting a quarterback, and you know, I think again,
I'm just like, I'm kind of rehashing with you. I
remind my wife, Hey, this is this is a big
part of my story, going back to when I committed
to Michigan State, going back to when I was drafted
to Washington, and it's always had a way of working
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itself out, and so let's draw on past experience to
trust that the future, you know, can be the same.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, like, listen, I understand it feels like,
you know, it feels like it's not the right thing
to do. It feels a little icky, but it's also
the business and you roll with it and as long
as people treat you with respect when you're there. I mean,
the big thing with Washington was, yeah, he was the
second quarterback taken in that draft and then remember when
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he left, the president of the team called him Kirk
Cousin instead of Kirk Cousins, and that would piss anybody,
anybody off. You know, I thought nothing has done more
for a human being that The Quarterbacks Show did for
Kirk Cousins. Going back to last season. I don't think
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that was I don't think they put out an image.
I think that's who he really is. But I also
realized that, look, if you're going to take a hundred
million hour check, you don't get to tell them what
to do with the rest of the roster, even if
it doesn't make sense to draft a backup that early
in the first round. Here's two bros and a cup
of Joe talking about the Jets schedule this season.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
LaVar Arrington is probably feeling a little bit more confident
about a bold proclamation he made on the show earlier
this week. You see guys like Brady and I. We
have thrown our support into the New York Jets and
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah we have.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
We have one of the all time greats. Go out
and stop hell yeah Jet. And we've done our part
to try and defend Aaron Rodgers, and defend Robert Sala,
and defend the New York Jets. Organisms And apparently the
NFL is on the side of LeVar Arrington because the
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schedule has come out, and the New York.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Jets got absolutely host.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
You talk about a chop job from the National Football League.
You open up on Monday night, you're at the Niners.
Then you're on the road in week two at the Titans.
Then you get a home game, but it's on a
short week against the Patriots. You get the Broncos after
that at home.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's not bad.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
Yeah, and then you're going to London. You've also got
two Sunday to Thursday turnarounds. And everyone's like, well, you're
being featured in primetime, as they should be, but they're
being featured in primetime and they're also getting dealt a
bag of crap by the NFL. And I'm sick of it.
I'm tired of the disrespect about what you just said.
That's all manageable. What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's a tough schedule, man, it is tough schedule. But
there's no t that gets discussed more in comparison to
their actual production as a team than the New York Jets.
There's a beauty to it. The beauty to it, and like, look,
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you have of your first what six games, three of
which are at home, you know, and one is a
neutral site against Minnesota. That's not a bad schedule. Yeah,
So I don't I don't see it as being all
that difficult, and I don't care. And this is where
I get to the bitching about it. That's where I
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get to the I don't care. That's that's where Jay
Stu and I start to agree. Here's Rachel Nichols talking
about the Celtics.
Speaker 10 (15:42):
If you're a passive mister, saying, why in the world
was it a one possession game when more than half
of the Cavaliers starting lineup is in the bench and
street clothes, including their best player Downovan Mitchell. So these
kinds of questions is what I still have about the
Boston Celtics. And I do worry about them. I've seen
the Vegas odds, but I do worry about them in
the next round because let's say it's the Knicks or
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the head ahead in that series. Is Jalen Brunson going
to take no for an answer against the Celtics defense
if they still don't have Kristaps Porzingis, who, by the way,
he started doing light shooting on the court the other day.
He is not close to returning. He's not coming back
for the beginning of this series. So, with the way
the Knicks have been rebounding, how are the Celtics going
to respond without KP. I sat here on the set
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in September when we were previewing teams, and I said,
I love the Kristaps Porzingis pickup. If he can stay
healthy for the sixteen games, that it matters, the sixteen
wins that they need to get through the spring, and
already that hasn't happened. Now they might not need him
until late in the conference finals or maybe even the finals,
but it just begs questions. And I can't sit here
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and say I believe in them to win the title yet,
even though I think they could, but they haven't convinced me.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I get it. But but if you're not in on
the Boston Celtics coming out of the East, who are
you in on? You're in on the Knicks, Okay, it
just doesn't feel like they'll have enough juice in the tank.
You in on the on the on the Pacers, they don't.
They don't defend either. And if you want to pick
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out the fact that christophs Ferzingis is not healthy, that's
totally fair. Totally fair. And then once you get to
the finals, right like, you're thinking about matching up with
a team like the Denver Nuggets or a team like
we think the Dallas Mavericks. Mavericks obviously feel like a
better matchup for the Celtics than the Nuggets are. But
(17:39):
this is one of those. My pushback to Rachel would be,
it's okay to say you don't believe in the Celtics.
It doesn't make sense to not believe in the Celtics
and come up with somebody else to come out of
the East. That's really what it kind of comes down to.
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
What does the fuck say? Be short to catch live
editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
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Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You know.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Nicki Glazer she.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Killed it through. Its very popular, well ever.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Since she's done the circuit, done every talk show imaginable
since she's really capitalizing on this roast, So of course
I was forced to do kind of a deep dive.
I went down a rabbit hole on her last night.
I wanted to see what her other content was like,
and I can't believe I saw this. Uh, this was
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annoying to me, Doug, the way she takes a shot
at you in one of her acts.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh we're trying for a baby. Oh we're gonna have
a baby. We just had a baby, baby, And it's like, yeah,
I know, but like eventually it's just gonna be so
dude named Doug. You know that, right, Like.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
It's just gonna be a gue, Like it's always baby,
but it's like that's a baby this much of the.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Time, you know it, and then it's all dougs, Like
it's just a no one's ever like, oh, we're having
a man, that's what you should say.
Speaker 9 (19:21):
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What a dog you want to Doug.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Man. Man, that's tough. That's really really tough, really really
really tough, really tough. That's annoying. That's annoying that you
pick up. I don't think. I don't think if Doug is,
I think Bill, Jim Steve.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
What about a Chad or a Todd?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Those were George Carlin's names.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Todd, Kyle, Chad.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I actually have a cousin, Todd and Chad from the
same family. It's just kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
M some dude named Doug.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Some dude named Doug. I think we need to put
that in the open. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
That is good Doug's life name.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's interesting because I always hated my name. Did I
ever tell you guys this one? I wanted my name
to be when I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
What's Maximus?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Mike, Mike, Mike my dad's two reasons. One, I felt
like Doug was was different. It was just different. And
the cool kid in my neighborhood was Mike Cook. And
I actually named every goldfish I ever won, had any
fair I ever wanted Mike. We had like Mike one,
Mike two, Mike three, We had like Mike twenty three
or something like that. And it wasn't over Mike. It
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wasn't because of Michael Jordan. It was because of Mike Cook,
who was the cool kid down the street, which I
would guess Mike Cook wasn't really the cool kid. He
was the high school kid that probably smoked cigarettes and
had a mustache and some sort of muscle car. But uh,
that he worked on out in the yard. But Mike
Cook was the cool kid, and I wanted my name
to be Mike. Now I liked that my name is Doug.
I really do. What else is annoying it?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Ron Washington, He doesn't annoy me. The angels always annoy me.
They could be in this segment every day. The angels
annoy me. I have friends that are angels. We have
a group text, and I just make fun of the
angels all the time. I don't know if you saw
it the other night, but some guy named Guillero mo meme, guierum,
guiero ma.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It's a second basement. They tried to do a a
What do you call those bunts where the runner comes
from third base? What are those bunts called? Do or die?
Basically bunts? And the batter missed it, and Ron Washington
was asked about it after the game.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Lefty on lefty, I didn't sink a ball left hander.
I didn't want him to hit into a double play.
He can handle the bat. He didn't do the job.
It wasn't anything I did wrong. He didn't do the job.
We're in a pictures a while and take it at
suffer to get Wow, he's trying to ball in the
strike zone. Why are you making excuses? He was trying
(22:07):
to ball in the strike zone. He did not get
the bunt down.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Period.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I think it was earlier in the season when he
was asked about some kind of a strategy and the
third baseman didn't make the play, and like he got
really angry. Ron Washington is answering questions like he's been
there like six years and he knows it's his last
year and he's just throwing people under the bus and
getting testy. What's going on with Ron Washington and your team?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Though?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I mean they stink? But again, like what how do
you not like the no excuses thing?
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I kind of like the way he said this. You
just don't see managers do that unless they know they're
not going to be back or something. He's in his
first couple months of the team.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean they're team stinks and their
best players hurt and they're the Angels, So that's what
it is. What else annoys you?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I think just to settle down a little bit, I
think Ron needs to get back on the powder, you know,
just to kind of maybe take the edge off a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Wait wait, wait, you think being back on the powder
is going to take the edge off.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
No, I just wanted an easy joke to talk about
his cocaine use. It made no sense, but I wanted
to shoewarn it in there. So, uh, Connor, or.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
How long wait? How long ago was the cocaine thing?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Well, he did as a player, but then like within
the last ten to fifteen years he was caught again.
Right when.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, man, so I think it's it's a hell of
a drug. I think I think it's still I think
it's still I still think it's fair game. You know, Like,
I don't want to be a hypocrite because now people
come after me with a credit card thing that's twenty
eight years old. I just want to make sure that
they what is the what is the statue of limitations?
On on on making fun of the fact that he
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he at some point in time probably mistaken the foul
line for a line of line of the white.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There you go, that's a good one. That's a good one.
This this is what annoys me about the Harrison. But
but boy, it's so. He spoke at a Catholic college
and he basically said that women's number one job should
be as a homemaker and you should embrace that about
(24:22):
being a woman and stuff. And of course, I mean
this has the entire left side of the political spectrum
up in arms, and I get that, but what annoys
me is that the NFL has no idea what to
do with this. They put out a release today saying
that that that his they don't share his views or whatnot.
(24:43):
This is where we are, like politically and society wise,
where like somebody says something and then there's like this
political calculation of how we need to handle it, and
then inevitably the NFL is going to piss some of
their fans off because a lot of probably agree with them,
and then you know they they're not going to do enough,
(25:05):
Like they're not going to suspend him or cut him.
So that's not going to make the other side happy.
Like there's just no way to win these battles when
guys say something like this, and I'm always going to
go back to one thing. He has the right to
say whatever he wants. We are born with a right
in this country to say whatever you want. You obviously
can be held accountable for your words. I'm annoyed by
(25:28):
the fact that the NFL is, like you could tell,
it's attempting to see which way the political wind has
gone on this before they say anything. And then there's
like a petition of our of our one hundred thousand
people that want the chiefs to cut him. So it's
it's just going to be interesting to see how this
plays out. And everyone's in his uncomfortable spot because in
(25:49):
this day and age, you just you can't take a
definitive stance on something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, so what was his definitive stance Chase two?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
No, I'm looking for the exact comment here. So, speaking
at a commencement, I want to speak directly to you
women briefly, because I think it is you the women
who have the most diabolic lies told to you. Some
(26:25):
of you may go on to lead successful careers in
the world, but I would venture to guess that the
majority of you are most excited about your marriage and
the children you will bring into this world. Embrace one
of the most important titles of all homemaker.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, yeah, I don't know what he's doing there.
You're good with that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, I'm not good about that. I just I'm annoyed
by the fact that It's taken a couple of days
for the NFL to come out to separate themselves from it.
And I'm annoyed that everyone's got to go through this
political calculation because the NFL, I don't know, piss somebody off.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Right, Well, I mean, look, I would like to think
that Harrison Budker didn't just say go back in the
kitchen and make me a sandwich. But that is how
it lands a little bit right, and he is right, like,
you know, I mean, I think staying home, Hey, staying
home and being a homemaker is an unbelievably important job.
(27:39):
It really is. And if you have the type of relationship, okay,
if you have a type of relationship where the husband
in this case can be the type of breadwinner where
you don't have to go to work, you can build
a remarkable bond with your kids. It should be embraced.
But it just lands poorly, right, It lands poorly, I think,
(28:03):
you know, like if I was to do the the
old what the Suddener're meant to say is, look, you
can choose whichever you'd like. You can choose to go
into the business world, you can choose to stay at
home and understand that if you stay at home, that's
an amazing decision. Amazing hey, but it doesn't make choosing
to work any less amazing. There are sacrifices with both,
(28:26):
you know. I think the part that I always that
always kind of got under my berg, got under my saddle,
is I've never liked that the idea that women when
they leave home somehow it hurts them more. And then
it hurts a guy to leave their kids like there's
not there. I mean, is there anything worse in the
world that when you have little kids walking out that door?
(28:48):
I mean, I've told people before the reason I left
ESPN was I was working every afternoon and then most weekends.
And I remember going up on a day off when
I was trying to clear my head and figure out
if I wanted to take the job at CBS. And
my son was two years old at the time, and
I went in the playroom and kissed him on the
(29:09):
forehead and he said, Daddy, go work, and I was like, no,
I'm here. I'd got the day up. But the idea
that anytime I kissed him on the forehead he would
think I was going to work just showed I was
working too much. And that was his perception of me.
But there's sacrifices for either side. If you work or
don't work, you go to you you're the homemaker or not.
I think that one landed really poorly. That's my estimation.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
So the annoying part of the Harrison Bucker thing, which is,
no matter what happens, it won't be enough to satisfy
one side, and then if whatever punishment happens, will piss
off with the other side, and then Ron Washington throwing
his player under the bus. The angels are annoying, period.
And then the first thing we brought up, Nicki Glazer
(29:53):
going after you and her stand up.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't think Nikki Glazer going after me and the
standback is annoying. I'm flattered. You want to throw up
my name and make it like and bring it and
bring it normalcy. I'm good. But I did name Doug,
some dude named Doug. I don't want to talk the angels.
The fact that I cannot pay attention to the angels
and know that when I look at the standings in
the aos, I can start at the bottom and expect
to see them and then work my way up, and
(30:18):
they have landed right where I thought they'd land that's
annoy Why.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Because we can.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You talked about this a little bit yesterday in this segment.
Aaron Rodgers did a sit down with with Tucker Carlson
and everyone's pissed off about it and they don't want
him to have that platform. And this was this was
one of their exchanges. By the way, I would I
would recommend watching or listening to this if you have.
I've got a couple hours to kill whatever. I listened
(30:56):
to the entire thing on my way out to see
my son yesterday, and it is compelling. I can't believe
that there is a an actual star quarterback in the
NFL right now that takes these extreme stances on things,
that takes a risk with his reputation, with his business.
I think that's interesting. I know most people just wanted
(31:19):
to say fuck Aaron Rodgers because he's anti vox, but
I think it's interesting. And this was an exchange with
Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
What used to make America great? Like how can we
get back to that? And that's why I love people
who want to stand up for what they believe in,
like yourself and and the stuff you would talk about
on your show was people. But nobody else is doing
that though you know, their cow to their coward, their
cow talented. Well yeah, I get it, but we're a
country of cowards now. People are not willing to stand
(31:48):
up for or stand up to the people that are
in charge. Well, what was it for you?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Are you just like fuck it?
Speaker 11 (31:55):
Like I'm going to say what I want to say?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, when was that moment where you decide? You decided it?
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go do it myself.
I think the problem is that when you talk about
things as facts which are provably false, you know, and
and look, Aaron, Aaron has a credibility problem. Let's just
be honest. He has a credibility problem that now he's
(32:21):
become this defiant anti vaxxer. But when he was put
on the spot, remember when when when it all went
bad for Aaron regarding vaccinations, is that's when he said
I was What did he say? I was inoculated? What
was this the actual word immune? Immunized? Right? He lied?
He lied, and he he gave a soft landing spot
(32:42):
to people who chose not to be vaccinated or actually
had a kind of a kind of a harsh you know.
But he didn't say we, he said they like dude.
You know, so he has a he has a credibility problem.
You know that the only reason he's come and become
this anti vax guy is because he was at one
point in time scared to reveal whatever his truth was. Like,
(33:03):
it does give you, It actually makes you respect Novak
Djokovic more because of what happened. Basically missed out on
what two Australian opens because of it. Sure, so I
understand what Aaron's saying. I don't know if we've become
a nation of cowards, but I also think that if
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he's honest, If Aaron Rodgers is honest, he would tell you, hey, man,
I have a credibility problem. And it hasn't been the
same ever since I lied at that press conference. Why
can't play for you? Because we can? All Right, that's
it for in the bonus podcast. This is the Gottlieb Show.
Check out the radio show if you listen to pods
(33:48):
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