June 17, 2024 • 22 mins
Doug riffs on the incident between Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on the US Open. Doug chooses among deserving candidates that Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Hall of Famer Larry Czonka makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug gollib showing the bonus there? Fox Sports Radio. Man,
what a weird weekend, right, And we'll get to Rory's collapse.
We'll get to some of the NBA stuff. But I
(00:30):
do want to talk about this Caitlyn Clark thing where
she's fouled hard by Angel Rees. And I think most
people are missing what this story should be about, right,
Like we keep talking about Angel Reaves and Caitlyn Clark
in the rivalry or whatever. I don't think by the way,
that Angel Rees intentionally tried to take off the head
(00:53):
of Caitlin Clark when she missed blocking shot and hit
her in the head. I mean, you can go and
track any of my commentary. That stuff happens in the
NBA all the time. I know it's deemed a flagrant foul,
and I would tell you right now it's not. You know,
it's just not you try and block a shot, you're late,
you don't jump high enough, you hit some of your
(01:14):
clubs some in the head. But like we protect women's
basketball players, men's basketball players had as if they're NFL players.
I've said this before. It's like the most ridiculous thing ever.
They're like, oh, dog, you're not sensitive to concussions and
the head trauma. How of course I am. The difference
is we're acting like they're football players. There's not a
(01:35):
basketball players walking around going I can't find my car
because I had multiple concussions. Like football had a two
billion dollar lawsuit that they settled for like somewhere in
the nine hundred million dollar variety, right, but most people
thought it was there's gonna be two billion. But the
point is that that's because football's collision sport. We treat
(01:58):
women's basketball men's beat. We'll say like getting hit in
the head is the end of the world. Like it's
just not. It's just not. And you can't always tell intent,
but my guess is that she was trying to block
a shot. The problem with Chicago is that there's no
positive equity, right. They carry themselves, they purport themselves, especially
(02:20):
obviously with Caitlyn Clark as this group of just hardcore,
tough and here's the funniest part about it, the Fever,
who's they played a little bit better of late, but
they're one of the worst teams in the WNBA, and
you're sitting there acting like you're super tough. And by
the way, both times you played me lost, So you know,
(02:41):
it's one thing to try and be the cock of
the walk and be you know, we're just tougher than you.
It's another thing to get your ass beat twice by
a team that most people deem to be the second
worst team in the WNBA, which is what the fever are. Yeah,
you have no positive equity. So I can't tell exactly
what you what is actually, what is real, what is
(03:03):
meant to be contact, and what it's not. But I
can tell you right now unequivocally that you have no
positive equity and nobody believes you, even if it's a
very believable thing to say, just hit her in the head,
you know, because also it's not like Caitlin Clark was
helped up by injuries. Oh man, I'm sorry to mean
to hit you in the head now. Also, curiously absent
(03:24):
was her teammates yet again, and we can say, well,
she got to hit in the head, you didn't see it.
But there isn't a moment where they go and help
her up, which leads us to this continuing conversation about
women are the worst. They're just incredibly jealous and secure creatures.
They are. They can be the worst in that way
(03:45):
towards each other, towards each other. Here is an absolute
superstar and her own teammates don't help her out. That
story is not changed. That's the story of the WNBA.
It's one that is really really hard to watch because
they're not supporting the one woman who can save them
(04:05):
from being in the witness protection program they've been in
for the last twenty six years.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (04:20):
Let's find out what the Fox says and now the
Fox say every day of this time the Doug Gotlieb Show.
Here on Fox Sports Tradier, we played for your portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the US Open.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's the Rice and Deshambo side of this, and then
there's the Rory McElroy side of this, and it's almost
like there were one winner, there were a few losers.
Now I'm gonna say there were two winners. I think
the golf course was a winner because I was surprised
if anybody was going to be under par, you had
a chance to win that tournament, and I was, and
(04:56):
I told you I've played it once and it was
a miserable day. It's a beautiful course, but it is
it's exceptionally challenging. And this is before they trick up
the greens and everything else that goes with it. Like
you have a spot that you have to hit a
golf ball to and then you hope that it stays
in that spot. And how many times did you see
(05:17):
it just roll off? You can hit a great shot there,
you can go up through the green, you go. You
gotta be kidding me. I'm in the bunker. It's you
have to have patience, and it's really hard to have patience.
You want things. Even when you have a bogie, you
have to go, all right, that's good bogeing. You don't
have that mindset. Plus, they just played the PGA Championship
in Louisville. You're getting twenty one under par and now
(05:41):
you have this, like it's just it's a thrill ride.
You just hold on for dear life.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know if it's a thrill ride that was
watching somebody just come up at the seams, especially considering
how much Rory had been discussed during the weekend and
the weekend because he had reconciled with his wife. But
just watch it. I don't know. To me it it's torturous.
It's the power of golf. Now. I used to and
(06:17):
and I could very easily make the case that golf
is a game of skill, not a sport, because and
endurance plays a slight factor, but athleticism doesn't necessarily. And
I don't know, but whether it's a game of skill
or a game of sport, I just watching that on
(06:40):
some level became uncomfortable with just a collapse of Roy McRoy.
That was an absolute collapse. So what was I thinking
when I was watching? Oh yo YOI I feel terrible
for that guy. Here's Paul Pierce talking about the Celtics
game for performance.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, I threw as awful Friday. I had to the
Maverick Blue, so I want to ensure today that I
came in with the green. But check this out. Yeah,
originally I said five. I did say five for the series,
so you know, we tried to go off script. You know,
sometimes you go off script, you know, but we're back
(07:19):
on script.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Script writers called me and was like, Paul, we can't
go off script, you know, just that they needed another game.
So we're back on script. So that was a little
glitch in the matrix last game. I don't really take
any stock in the thirty eight point. It was just
a lack of effort.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I mean, they were just kind of yeah, all were
up three, and they thought Dallas would come in here
and lay down, which wasn't the case. And that just
shows you that Luca and the Dallas Mavericks have some
sort of pride to themselves. But when I look at
the script again, the last time Boston self just won
a championship was in two thousand and eight, skiping key. Yeah,
(08:03):
you know what, the date was six seventeen.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's interesting. I guess there's there's an interesting correlation. Although
NBA Finals are played this time year, the you know,
the big question is can the Mavericks get one more game,
because then the pressure switches to the Boston Celtics. I
don't care if Game seven's at home. If you're up
three to zero, and it becomes three, it becomes three
to three. You're you're gonna get tight. You're gonna get
(08:33):
really tight. And Tim Hardaway Junior playing well kind of
changes that dynamic substantially, a substantial dynamic change. Uh, this
is Colin Cowherd talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
This is a win for women's basketball. These flagrant fouls
are a win. Yeah, I defended Draymond Green forever, so
I'm going to be outraged by this. It's a flagrant foul.
She got up and played okay. Like there's a reason
there's a classification for this foul because you get about
one hundred and thirty year in the NBA. And by
(09:07):
the way, women who have committed flagrant fowls are not
all villains. Diana Tarassi had one last year. Is she
a villain?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, It's part of basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's you know, every industry has got a little ugly side,
a little provincial side, a little tribal side. This is
it in basketball NBA and the WNBA. But I'll say
it again, the women are figuring out how to handle it.
It's the people who parachute into this sport that never
wants that don't understand the chippiness that you get in
(09:44):
the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with Colin there. I think the
people that I agree with them that there are people
that are parachuting in that don't understand basketball. But I
think the chippiness is because women in the w n
b A don't know how to handle their jealousy of
her fame and success. That's really what it kind of
(10:07):
comes down to. It just is you know, you know,
over the weekend there was a post where it's pretty
obvious that one of Caitlin Clark's teammates dates one of
(10:28):
what's the woman's name?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Uh, usion Nay Carrington on the Sun dates. It's Kaitlin's.
What's what's the name of Kaitlyn's Uh we know, is
it Kelsey Mitchell?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
No, No, it's somebody Smith or something. Anyways, yeah, day
no Lisa Smith.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that this has existed, Now, this is what people
maybe didn't realize or one of the things that happens
is you know, it's it's interesting. There's a different dynamic there,
completely different dynamic there. When you know you have two
people dating each other on opposite teams. You know, there's
also a different dynamic when they're on the same team
(11:06):
and one gets cut or one gets traded, and how
you handle all of that, Like that stuff is we
don't have that in the men's side, or at least
that we know of. We just don't. We don't have
it that we know of, and so I think people
becoming aware of it. But I don't think it's that
wa that it's all outsiders. I do think there's a
(11:26):
portion of these fans who are, you know, Caitlin Clark
fans who don't know anything about anything and are super
protective of Caitlin Clark. But I think that the biggest
contributor to all of this is WNBA women who don't
seem to be able to process their jealousy towards Caitlin's
marketability and success. That I mean, I think anybody who
(11:49):
steps outside of the basics of the argument kind of
looks at it goes like, oh, yeah, that that makes sense.
That's what the Fox said? What does the fuck say?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
Let's find Out Who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The easily annoyed but never replicated takes. Actually they're often replicated.
People just lift his takes and use them as their own.
The next day or two, the one only Jason Stewart
joins us, Jay Stu, who are what is annoying you today?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
So among the things that I noticed this weekend, Tom
Brady made an appearance at the Is it the UFL
whatever that Spring Football League's championship game is?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yesdre, it's the new league that we don't watch, yep,
which looks like the old league that we didn't watch.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Then this you're making the points that I'm about to make,
we don't watch it. I didn't watch it. I didn't
tune in to watch Tom Brady. I do. I do
think that. I don't know if it was Fox that
was promoting it, but it was being promoted by broadcast,
you know, columnists and blogs as Tom Brady's broadcast debut,
(13:13):
And if I'm a Fox Sports, I don't know if
I want that. I don't want you. I don't want
you promoting Tom Brady's broadcast debut on a game that
nobody's gonna watch in spring. I want to save that
for his actual broadcast debut. I don't. That's annoying to
me that I would even try to be sold on
(13:34):
the fact that that was his broadcast debut yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Uh, what if I pitch it to you as it's
like a soft launch for a new product. Okay, does
that work for you?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Probably?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Yeah. I mean that's that tells me exactly what it is.
It's not his debut. I don't want it to be.
I don't want to tune in thinking this is his debut.
He did like a cameo, a drive by in the booth.
That's not his debut. But it leads me to believe you're.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You're annoyed by the the idea that it's it's that
it's a debut when it really is.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I thought it was a cheap way to get people
to tune into a game that nobody's gonna watch. And
that leads me to my next point. This is my
broader point of this segment today, the UFL versus the
w NBA. Okay, the UFL had a championship game yesterday.
As we both said, neither of us watched. I'm guessing
(14:28):
nobody watched, but they're probably going to show us a
couple hundred thousand people whatever. But nobody from the UFL,
no coaches, no players, no broadcasters made me feel bad
for not watching the UFL yesterday. That's kind of what
I like about these niche sports. Football is a sport
(14:49):
that a lot of people watch, but nobody watches spring football.
And that's cool, and I think that the UFL understands
that and they know their place in society. The opposite
end of that is a w NBA. We've said many
times on this podcast, I think we are out in
front of this. Actually, no sport makes you feel like
an asshole for not watching it more than the WNBA.
(15:12):
And I want to point out a tweet specifically, this
is a really nice gentleman. I like LZ Granderson. I've
met him. I don't know him, but I everything everyone
that I've ever talked to who knows LZ says is
a great guy. I have an issue with this tweet,
but I think it also is a reflective of a
lot of people's attitude who follow the WNBA. LZ, if
(15:35):
you don't know, is gay, and he is and he's black,
and he recently announced that he's six, So I'm by
no means making fun of him, but the actual sentiment
of this tweet is what annoys me. He said he
wrote this on Saturday. There is a need for Clark,
(15:56):
Caitlin Clark to be an outlier who made the WNBA
quote quote watchable so folks can avoid doing the real
work of asking themselves why they didn't watch beforehand. I'm
guessing I'm supposed to do the real work and ask
myself why I haven't watched the WNBA, and I guess
(16:17):
LZ wants me to come to the conclusion is because
they were black women that played the WNBA, and they're
largely gay, and I can't stand both of them. And
that's that's the work that I'm going to do to
have this great revelation about why I didn't watch it. No,
that's not it. I don't watch the WNBA for the
same reason I don't watch the NHL, and for the
(16:37):
same reason I didn't watch the UFL. It doesn't interest me.
I don't think the level of competition is that great,
and I've chosen to watch other things. Has nothing to
do with skin color or sexual preference or anything like that.
But LZ does point out something I think a lot
of people want us to do is there was a
reason you were watching before this white chick from Iowa
(17:01):
started playing. Maybe you should do the real work to
discover why you didn't watch it, Doug, it's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
A great point. So it's so lazy, it's so lazy.
So wait, okay, so here's the question. For twenty six
years we were racists and homophobes, and now we're not
because of Caitlin Clark. Like that doesn't make any sense.
(17:28):
It doesn't make any sense to tell me women's professional
sport we watch oh wait, oh wait, you know and
and I thought of this. Do you remember when Brandy
Chastain took off her shirt and had her sports braught
and our US national team won the World Cup in
a rose bowl?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It changed the way we thought of women's sports.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It did, sort of for a minute, for a minute,
Do you remember what happened afterwards? There was a women's
professional soccer league. Why do you not know this because
it failed. Several of them have failed. There is one
that now, but nobody talks about, nobody discusses it. Those
are made up by the way of mostly white women
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except for the goalkeeper. So if it's if we're we've
been racist for twenty six years or homophobes for twenty
six years, then why didn't women's soccer work? I'll wait,
It's just again, such an easy argument to dismantle, such
(18:33):
a lazy argument to make, but it panders too frankly
to Elsie Granderson and his crowd. And I love that
you're calling him out on it.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
And again, no sport makes you feel worse for not
following their sport than the WNBA. And that continues, and
I think it's getting worse because now the Kaitlyn Clark
outlier is giving them fodder to be a guy. Why
didn't you watch before? So that, to me was my
larger point today. I am really annoyed that the Dodgers
(19:05):
lost two of their best players over the weekend. You know,
they went out and spent a ton of money on
Yamamoto and in the off season it looks like he's
got rotator cuff issues, and anyone who knows baseball knows
that rotator cuff injuries with pictures is bad news. They're
(19:25):
they're kind of playing it off as if, as if
it's not that big of a deal ya Mamoto, And
I think it. I think it's going to be ultimately
a big deal. And then Mookie Betts, our lead off hitter,
our leader, got hit in the wrist. They're calling it
(19:46):
a fracture in his arm, I guess, or his hand.
He's not going to have surgery. But I think if
you work with your hands for a living, specially especially
if you're if you're swinging a bat for a living,
I don't know how effective you can be if you
come back from a broken or a fracture in season.
That sucks. It's annoying. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I hate that too. I just unlucky things. You know,
in baseball we always talk about we say that's baseball,
but unlucky things really really suck. What else annoying?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
No, that's it. Don't tell me it's Tom Brady's broadcast debut. Yeah,
don't make me feel like a racist homophoe for not
watching her sport and the Dodgers injuries.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Hmm, that's a hard one. I'm gonna I gotta go
with LZ. Granderson like it's just the dumbest argument ever.
There's some hard work to be done that were It's
just it, it's beyond stupid. It's super lazy. It's actually
really insulting. It's like the Williams sisters took over the
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tennis world by storm. And oh yeah, by the way,
we watch or don't watch ten if Serena plays or
doesn't play, Like since Serena's not playing, I don't pay
any attention to women's tennis. So I just I don't
understand any sort of the correlation that people were trying
to make. It's dumb, it's lazy, it's an.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
The nineteen seventy two Dolphins remained the only team to
go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, and Wharry Zanka
was the running back on that team, and he was
at some kind of looks like it looked like a
mixer or something recently, and somebody asked him or maybe
I think somebody like used the wrong wording when when
(21:47):
asked about the only undefeated season.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Greatest team, we took the DoD damn thing.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's what happened, people telling me how they named.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
We took it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I don't have any emotional responsible I have.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That is so good, that's just phenomenal. Sound. Why can
we play it for you? Because we can? All right?
That's it for the end the Bonus Podcast. As I
told you in the open the pod and the open
of the show, there's a world there with the Mavericks
win tonight. Oh, the booty holes of the Boston Celtics
hit really really tight. What the hell, let's go for
(22:27):
take the Mavericks tonight. This is Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug gollib showing the bonus there? Fox Sports Radio. Man,
what a weird weekend, right, And we'll get to Rory's collapse.
We'll get to some of the NBA stuff. But I
(00:30):
do want to talk about this Caitlyn Clark thing where
she's fouled hard by Angel Rees. And I think most
people are missing what this story should be about, right,
Like we keep talking about Angel Reaves and Caitlyn Clark
in the rivalry or whatever. I don't think by the way,
that Angel Rees intentionally tried to take off the head
(00:53):
of Caitlin Clark when she missed blocking shot and hit
her in the head. I mean, you can go and
track any of my commentary. That stuff happens in the
NBA all the time. I know it's deemed a flagrant foul,
and I would tell you right now it's not. You know,
it's just not you try and block a shot, you're late,
you don't jump high enough, you hit some of your
(01:14):
clubs some in the head. But like we protect women's
basketball players, men's basketball players had as if they're NFL players.
I've said this before. It's like the most ridiculous thing ever.
They're like, oh, dog, you're not sensitive to concussions and
the head trauma. How of course I am. The difference
is we're acting like they're football players. There's not a
(01:35):
basketball players walking around going I can't find my car
because I had multiple concussions. Like football had a two
billion dollar lawsuit that they settled for like somewhere in
the nine hundred million dollar variety, right, but most people
thought it was there's gonna be two billion. But the
point is that that's because football's collision sport. We treat
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women's basketball men's beat. We'll say like getting hit in
the head is the end of the world. Like it's
just not. It's just not. And you can't always tell intent,
but my guess is that she was trying to block
a shot. The problem with Chicago is that there's no
positive equity, right. They carry themselves, they purport themselves, especially
(02:20):
obviously with Caitlyn Clark as this group of just hardcore,
tough and here's the funniest part about it, the Fever,
who's they played a little bit better of late, but
they're one of the worst teams in the WNBA, and
you're sitting there acting like you're super tough. And by
the way, both times you played me lost, So you know,
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it's one thing to try and be the cock of
the walk and be you know, we're just tougher than you.
It's another thing to get your ass beat twice by
a team that most people deem to be the second
worst team in the WNBA, which is what the fever are. Yeah,
you have no positive equity. So I can't tell exactly
what you what is actually, what is real, what is
(03:03):
meant to be contact, and what it's not. But I
can tell you right now unequivocally that you have no
positive equity and nobody believes you, even if it's a
very believable thing to say, just hit her in the head,
you know, because also it's not like Caitlin Clark was
helped up by injuries. Oh man, I'm sorry to mean
to hit you in the head now. Also, curiously absent
(03:24):
was her teammates yet again, and we can say, well,
she got to hit in the head, you didn't see it.
But there isn't a moment where they go and help
her up, which leads us to this continuing conversation about
women are the worst. They're just incredibly jealous and secure creatures.
They are. They can be the worst in that way
(03:45):
towards each other, towards each other. Here is an absolute
superstar and her own teammates don't help her out. That
story is not changed. That's the story of the WNBA.
It's one that is really really hard to watch because
they're not supporting the one woman who can save them
(04:05):
from being in the witness protection program they've been in
for the last twenty six years.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Let's find out what the Fox says and now the
Fox say every day of this time the Doug Gotlieb Show.
Here on Fox Sports Tradier, we played for your portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the US Open.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's the Rice and Deshambo side of this, and then
there's the Rory McElroy side of this, and it's almost
like there were one winner, there were a few losers.
Now I'm gonna say there were two winners. I think
the golf course was a winner because I was surprised
if anybody was going to be under par, you had
a chance to win that tournament, and I was, and
(04:56):
I told you I've played it once and it was
a miserable day. It's a beautiful course, but it is
it's exceptionally challenging. And this is before they trick up
the greens and everything else that goes with it. Like
you have a spot that you have to hit a
golf ball to and then you hope that it stays
in that spot. And how many times did you see
(05:17):
it just roll off? You can hit a great shot there,
you can go up through the green, you go. You
gotta be kidding me. I'm in the bunker. It's you
have to have patience, and it's really hard to have patience.
You want things. Even when you have a bogie, you
have to go, all right, that's good bogeing. You don't
have that mindset. Plus, they just played the PGA Championship
in Louisville. You're getting twenty one under par and now
(05:41):
you have this, like it's just it's a thrill ride.
You just hold on for dear life.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know if it's a thrill ride that was
watching somebody just come up at the seams, especially considering
how much Rory had been discussed during the weekend and
the weekend because he had reconciled with his wife. But
just watch it. I don't know. To me it it's torturous.
It's the power of golf. Now. I used to and
(06:17):
and I could very easily make the case that golf
is a game of skill, not a sport, because and
endurance plays a slight factor, but athleticism doesn't necessarily. And
I don't know, but whether it's a game of skill
or a game of sport, I just watching that on
(06:40):
some level became uncomfortable with just a collapse of Roy McRoy.
That was an absolute collapse. So what was I thinking
when I was watching? Oh yo YOI I feel terrible
for that guy. Here's Paul Pierce talking about the Celtics
game for performance.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, I threw as awful Friday. I had to the
Maverick Blue, so I want to ensure today that I
came in with the green. But check this out. Yeah,
originally I said five. I did say five for the series,
so you know, we tried to go off script. You know,
sometimes you go off script, you know, but we're back
(07:19):
on script.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Script writers called me and was like, Paul, we can't
go off script, you know, just that they needed another game.
So we're back on script. So that was a little
glitch in the matrix last game. I don't really take
any stock in the thirty eight point. It was just
a lack of effort.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I mean, they were just kind of yeah, all were
up three, and they thought Dallas would come in here
and lay down, which wasn't the case. And that just
shows you that Luca and the Dallas Mavericks have some
sort of pride to themselves. But when I look at
the script again, the last time Boston self just won
a championship was in two thousand and eight, skiping key. Yeah,
(08:03):
you know what, the date was six seventeen.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's interesting. I guess there's there's an interesting correlation. Although
NBA Finals are played this time year, the you know,
the big question is can the Mavericks get one more game,
because then the pressure switches to the Boston Celtics. I
don't care if Game seven's at home. If you're up
three to zero, and it becomes three, it becomes three
to three. You're you're gonna get tight. You're gonna get
(08:33):
really tight. And Tim Hardaway Junior playing well kind of
changes that dynamic substantially, a substantial dynamic change. Uh, this
is Colin Cowherd talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
This is a win for women's basketball. These flagrant fouls
are a win. Yeah, I defended Draymond Green forever, so
I'm going to be outraged by this. It's a flagrant foul.
She got up and played okay. Like there's a reason
there's a classification for this foul because you get about
one hundred and thirty year in the NBA. And by
(09:07):
the way, women who have committed flagrant fowls are not
all villains. Diana Tarassi had one last year. Is she
a villain?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, It's part of basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's you know, every industry has got a little ugly side,
a little provincial side, a little tribal side. This is
it in basketball NBA and the WNBA. But I'll say
it again, the women are figuring out how to handle it.
It's the people who parachute into this sport that never
wants that don't understand the chippiness that you get in
(09:44):
the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with Colin there. I think the
people that I agree with them that there are people
that are parachuting in that don't understand basketball. But I
think the chippiness is because women in the w n
b A don't know how to handle their jealousy of
her fame and success. That's really what it kind of
(10:07):
comes down to. It just is you know, you know,
over the weekend there was a post where it's pretty
obvious that one of Caitlin Clark's teammates dates one of
(10:28):
what's the woman's name?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Uh, usion Nay Carrington on the Sun dates. It's Kaitlin's.
What's what's the name of Kaitlyn's Uh we know, is
it Kelsey Mitchell?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
No, No, it's somebody Smith or something. Anyways, yeah, day
no Lisa Smith.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that this has existed, Now, this is what people
maybe didn't realize or one of the things that happens
is you know, it's it's interesting. There's a different dynamic there,
completely different dynamic there. When you know you have two
people dating each other on opposite teams. You know, there's
also a different dynamic when they're on the same team
(11:06):
and one gets cut or one gets traded, and how
you handle all of that, Like that stuff is we
don't have that in the men's side, or at least
that we know of. We just don't. We don't have
it that we know of, and so I think people
becoming aware of it. But I don't think it's that
wa that it's all outsiders. I do think there's a
(11:26):
portion of these fans who are, you know, Caitlin Clark
fans who don't know anything about anything and are super
protective of Caitlin Clark. But I think that the biggest
contributor to all of this is WNBA women who don't
seem to be able to process their jealousy towards Caitlin's
marketability and success. That I mean, I think anybody who
(11:49):
steps outside of the basics of the argument kind of
looks at it goes like, oh, yeah, that that makes sense.
That's what the Fox said? What does the fuck say?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
Let's find Out Who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The easily annoyed but never replicated takes. Actually they're often replicated.
People just lift his takes and use them as their own.
The next day or two, the one only Jason Stewart
joins us, Jay Stu, who are what is annoying you today?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
So among the things that I noticed this weekend, Tom
Brady made an appearance at the Is it the UFL
whatever that Spring Football League's championship game is?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yesdre, it's the new league that we don't watch, yep,
which looks like the old league that we didn't watch.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Then this you're making the points that I'm about to make,
we don't watch it. I didn't watch it. I didn't
tune in to watch Tom Brady. I do. I do
think that. I don't know if it was Fox that
was promoting it, but it was being promoted by broadcast,
you know, columnists and blogs as Tom Brady's broadcast debut,
(13:13):
And if I'm a Fox Sports, I don't know if
I want that. I don't want you. I don't want
you promoting Tom Brady's broadcast debut on a game that
nobody's gonna watch in spring. I want to save that
for his actual broadcast debut. I don't. That's annoying to
me that I would even try to be sold on
(13:34):
the fact that that was his broadcast debut yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Uh, what if I pitch it to you as it's
like a soft launch for a new product. Okay, does
that work for you?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Probably?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Yeah. I mean that's that tells me exactly what it is.
It's not his debut. I don't want it to be.
I don't want to tune in thinking this is his debut.
He did like a cameo, a drive by in the booth.
That's not his debut. But it leads me to believe you're.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You're annoyed by the the idea that it's it's that
it's a debut when it really is.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I thought it was a cheap way to get people
to tune into a game that nobody's gonna watch. And
that leads me to my next point. This is my
broader point of this segment today, the UFL versus the
w NBA. Okay, the UFL had a championship game yesterday.
As we both said, neither of us watched. I'm guessing
(14:28):
nobody watched, but they're probably going to show us a
couple hundred thousand people whatever. But nobody from the UFL,
no coaches, no players, no broadcasters made me feel bad
for not watching the UFL yesterday. That's kind of what
I like about these niche sports. Football is a sport
(14:49):
that a lot of people watch, but nobody watches spring football.
And that's cool, and I think that the UFL understands
that and they know their place in society. The opposite
end of that is a w NBA. We've said many
times on this podcast, I think we are out in
front of this. Actually, no sport makes you feel like
an asshole for not watching it more than the WNBA.
(15:12):
And I want to point out a tweet specifically, this
is a really nice gentleman. I like LZ Granderson. I've
met him. I don't know him, but I everything everyone
that I've ever talked to who knows LZ says is
a great guy. I have an issue with this tweet,
but I think it also is a reflective of a
lot of people's attitude who follow the WNBA. LZ, if
(15:35):
you don't know, is gay, and he is and he's black,
and he recently announced that he's six, So I'm by
no means making fun of him, but the actual sentiment
of this tweet is what annoys me. He said he
wrote this on Saturday. There is a need for Clark,
(15:56):
Caitlin Clark to be an outlier who made the WNBA
quote quote watchable so folks can avoid doing the real
work of asking themselves why they didn't watch beforehand. I'm
guessing I'm supposed to do the real work and ask
myself why I haven't watched the WNBA, and I guess
(16:17):
LZ wants me to come to the conclusion is because
they were black women that played the WNBA, and they're
largely gay, and I can't stand both of them. And
that's that's the work that I'm going to do to
have this great revelation about why I didn't watch it. No,
that's not it. I don't watch the WNBA for the
same reason I don't watch the NHL, and for the
(16:37):
same reason I didn't watch the UFL. It doesn't interest me.
I don't think the level of competition is that great,
and I've chosen to watch other things. Has nothing to
do with skin color or sexual preference or anything like that.
But LZ does point out something I think a lot
of people want us to do is there was a
reason you were watching before this white chick from Iowa
(17:01):
started playing. Maybe you should do the real work to
discover why you didn't watch it, Doug, it's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
A great point. So it's so lazy, it's so lazy.
So wait, okay, so here's the question. For twenty six
years we were racists and homophobes, and now we're not
because of Caitlin Clark. Like that doesn't make any sense.
(17:28):
It doesn't make any sense to tell me women's professional
sport we watch oh wait, oh wait, you know and
and I thought of this. Do you remember when Brandy
Chastain took off her shirt and had her sports braught
and our US national team won the World Cup in
a rose bowl?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It changed the way we thought of women's sports.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It did, sort of for a minute, for a minute,
Do you remember what happened afterwards? There was a women's
professional soccer league. Why do you not know this because
it failed. Several of them have failed. There is one
that now, but nobody talks about, nobody discusses it. Those
are made up by the way of mostly white women
(18:12):
except for the goalkeeper. So if it's if we're we've
been racist for twenty six years or homophobes for twenty
six years, then why didn't women's soccer work? I'll wait,
It's just again, such an easy argument to dismantle, such
(18:33):
a lazy argument to make, but it panders too frankly
to Elsie Granderson and his crowd. And I love that
you're calling him out on it.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
And again, no sport makes you feel worse for not
following their sport than the WNBA. And that continues, and
I think it's getting worse because now the Kaitlyn Clark
outlier is giving them fodder to be a guy. Why
didn't you watch before? So that, to me was my
larger point today. I am really annoyed that the Dodgers
(19:05):
lost two of their best players over the weekend. You know,
they went out and spent a ton of money on
Yamamoto and in the off season it looks like he's
got rotator cuff issues, and anyone who knows baseball knows
that rotator cuff injuries with pictures is bad news. They're
(19:25):
they're kind of playing it off as if, as if
it's not that big of a deal ya Mamoto, And
I think it. I think it's going to be ultimately
a big deal. And then Mookie Betts, our lead off hitter,
our leader, got hit in the wrist. They're calling it
(19:46):
a fracture in his arm, I guess, or his hand.
He's not going to have surgery. But I think if
you work with your hands for a living, specially especially
if you're if you're swinging a bat for a living,
I don't know how effective you can be if you
come back from a broken or a fracture in season.
That sucks. It's annoying. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I hate that too. I just unlucky things. You know,
in baseball we always talk about we say that's baseball,
but unlucky things really really suck. What else annoying?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
No, that's it. Don't tell me it's Tom Brady's broadcast debut. Yeah,
don't make me feel like a racist homophoe for not
watching her sport and the Dodgers injuries.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Hmm, that's a hard one. I'm gonna I gotta go
with LZ. Granderson like it's just the dumbest argument ever.
There's some hard work to be done that were It's
just it, it's beyond stupid. It's super lazy. It's actually
really insulting. It's like the Williams sisters took over the
(20:55):
tennis world by storm. And oh yeah, by the way,
we watch or don't watch ten if Serena plays or
doesn't play, Like since Serena's not playing, I don't pay
any attention to women's tennis. So I just I don't
understand any sort of the correlation that people were trying
to make. It's dumb, it's lazy, it's an.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
The nineteen seventy two Dolphins remained the only team to
go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, and Wharry Zanka
was the running back on that team, and he was
at some kind of looks like it looked like a
mixer or something recently, and somebody asked him or maybe
I think somebody like used the wrong wording when when
(21:47):
asked about the only undefeated season.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Greatest team, we took the DoD damn thing.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's what happened, people telling me how they named.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
We took it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I don't have any emotional responsible I have.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That is so good, that's just phenomenal. Sound. Why can
we play it for you? Because we can? All right?
That's it for the end the Bonus Podcast. As I
told you in the open the pod and the open
of the show, there's a world there with the Mavericks
win tonight. Oh, the booty holes of the Boston Celtics
hit really really tight. What the hell, let's go for
(22:27):
take the Mavericks tonight. This is Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio.
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