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August 13, 2024 38 mins

Doug welcomes Fanatics CEO Michael Rubin onto the show to talk about the business side of sports and an exciting event coming up. Doug talks about the Will Levis - Mayonnaise ad. Doug talks about a potential nice story out of the NFL. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Let's stop everything we're doing and let's welcome in Michael Rubin.
He's the CEO of Fanatics. He's a serial entrepreneur. There's

(00:47):
a bunch of things I want to get to and
I really appreciate you spending some time with us, Michael.
But before we get to Fanatics, which of course has
kind of taken over the sports world by storm, what
was the one business you started that you were sure
this is a winner and it was not.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, I definitely have many of those like one would
one would be so limiting. In my answer, I would
have said it would have been the NFT business that
we started a couple of years ago and with candy,
and we started that and we realized very quickly this
wasn't it. It was a product, it wasn't a business,
and we got a very quickly. So I'd say, we're

(01:24):
quick to start things that we believe in them, and
if we think we're wrong, we'll quickly react. Can get
out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, rip to NFTs. I remember, I remember people did like, no, no,
it's the metaverse. So wait, I can buy something and
then like it's limitless. It's like okay. So the problem
with the NFTs was just explaining to people, you know
it is right. If I can't understand in two sentences,
I can't understand it. And it took more than two sentences.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Look, I think as a utility paired with you know,
physical bleftables, it makes a lot of sense. But I
think it's definitely out of standal ine business. That's where
I had it wrong. But you know what, for me,
we love trying things. A lot of things work, a
lot of things don't do things that don't work. You
learn from you grow, you move on quick. That's part
about business. You got to take your l's and move
forward again.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I do want to talk about fanatics, but I have
to ask about the White Party. How did the first
one that happened? How did it come to be?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So I am a really like bad learner like I
was when I when I grew up, I got a
seven eight m I SATs combined. I was terrible student,
barely made out of high school. I think you went
to college for a few weeks. For me, the way
I always learned is bringing people together. And you know,
I'm fortunate to have a really kind of diverse group
of friends, like all different backgrounds, cultures, you know, you know,

(02:34):
from great business leaders to great athletes to great artists.
That's just great people you can learn from. And so
I like bringing people together. And so the original I
did four years ago it is just how do I bring,
you know, my kind of group of friends together. And
it's pretty incredible from the first we've only done it
four years. It's you know, it's less informed for people
that actually come to but it's just such a great
group of people that come together and we all learn
from each other and have a blass as well. It's

(02:55):
a thirteen hour party five pm till six am, goes
to business. But you know, you see only the fun parts.
But what you don't see is all the great relationships
that get created, all the great business up to come
from it. That's what I love about it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Now, do you do you have extra like white clothing?
Because I just imagine me, particularly me, I go to
have a drink, I bump into somebody, it's on my
white suit and I'm like, dude, Now the whole rest
of the night where you have the best and the
brightest in the universe and this party see me as
the guy with the spill on his shirt? Do you
have extra gear for people if they spill in their
white clothing?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So, first off, before the creation of the white part
I don't think I owned any white I don't own
a white pair of pants. Maybe I have some white
sneakers and maybe some white you know shirts. I had
no white pants. I actually looked for a couple of
changes changes that night. The good thing for me is
I have home court advantage, so I can, you know,
kind of go do cocktails, very locked into business, then
go upstairs, change into something a little more, you know,

(03:49):
casual a little more, you know, roof five being then
kind of in the club. So I think I was
in three to four outs this year.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
All right, fair enough. Fanatics Best NYC is at the
Javit Center, Okay, and this is a collection of athletes
and leagues, teams, collectibles, memorabilia. So explain to me if
I if I go to Fanatics Fest, Like, what all
am I going to see? What am I going to do?
What am I going to learn?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, Look, no one's ever done anything like this in
sports before. You have this opposite Comic Con for that industry,
and you see a quarter a million people come to
New York Comic Con and come trusted in full costumes.
You've got all these music festivals, you got stuff Southwest.
In sports, there's no work gathering, you know, other than
games itself of sports fans. So we really want to
create the first kind of sports festival. And you're going

(04:34):
to see two hundred of the best athletes in the
world coming out of this. I mean Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning,
Eli Manning, kd Anthony, I whits fresh up the Olympics
with their gold medals, you know, Mike Tyson Jake Paul
doing press comps, Derek Cheeter being interviewed by David Artist.
You've got you know, two hundred incredible by way incredible wrestlers,
you know, Ray Mysteria, Hall Coagan, your best UFC fighters.

(04:57):
So you know, to me, the ability to bring together
so many great athletes, artists, Jay Z, Travis Scott into
one festival and kind of create this you know environment
that's ever been crazy thing we're so excited about. There's
gonna be content every day. There's a main stage, the
center stage, where you've got different interviews happening, So like

(05:18):
Steve Basmiths interviewing Tom Brady, David Ortiz interviewing Derek Jeter.
There's a whole New York Knicks finel with Brunton and
Josh Hard and Spike Lee and Ben Siller. But then
you've got you know, like NBA players are gonna be
playing basketball on the court with kids. Kagan and and
and are playing basketball, you know, for thirty minutes with kids,

(05:40):
and playing football with kids. Brady's someone passes the kids
for an hour on Friday. So it's really just a
mercive sports festival. But then you've got like a whole
training card area, a whole merch area, special drops. Travis
Scott's gonna launch his trading cards is Tops Cactus Jack
exclusive courts for the first time at the show. So
it's really something for everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's the voice of Michael Rubin. Of course, he's the
CEO of Fanatics. He's a seri serial entrepreneur, a philanthropist,
a social justice advocate, and the founder and executive chairman
of Fanatics. They do have Fanatics Fest in the NYC
going on at the Javit Center. I read from was
it sport Code Today that the Cowboys lead NFL franchises

(06:23):
with an estimated value of ten point three two billion dollars.
So for somebody out there who doesn't understand how that
portion of your business, because I know it's a vast business.
There's tickets, there's other elements to it as well, but
just in terms of the franchise values based upon what
you sell how much? Why do you believe the Cowboys

(06:43):
are so incredibly valuable and popular despite the fact that
it's been thirty years since they won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, well, look, ichaged two things first, there's only a
limited amount of the sports franchisees available in NFL. There's
only thirty two of them. They're not making more of
them this you know thirty NBA team. So you know,
I think there's a lot of people who've had tremendous
success in business who really aspire on a sports franchise.
The second thing is is used to not be good
businesses ten years ago, fifteen years ago, they're now very

(07:10):
good business. The Cowboys probably big franger million dollars in profits.
If you'd say, you know, what kind of multiple would
you put on some of the Dallas Cowboys, it olmos
seems cheap to me. So I tell you that sports,
the growth is there is going to keep being more
secular growth to sports.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
For us, you know, our entire business is built around
incredible athletes. They do what they do on the field,
on the ice, on the court. Without them, we'd have
no business. You know, we're going to do you know,
more than six million hours of merchandise sales this year.
You know, billions of dollars of trading card and collectible
sales just got started. The online fool to stay on
gaming business. And you know, we're building great businesses around
these incredible athletes and around these credible franchises.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, is that the future for everybody is everybody wraps
it into a sports gambling element, a bus sports gambling arm.
That is that that's the future for everyone.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, look, I think there's a limited amount of company
a lot grow success. Obviously, it's led by Fango and
Draft Kings, which are the to behemoths in the US
on you know today, they really have a duopoly. I think,
you know, for me, we believe we like being an
underdog by the way in the in the bang your
business and the collectibles business. I think, you know, people
look at us as kind of a leader in online
sports spending. We're just getting started. We love that. We

(08:15):
love people saying, hey, you've got no chance to finacce
We've got one hundred and thirty million customers. We've got
a great product now that's next sports book. When we
launched in September, we're just gonna started, you know, less
than a year later. I think, you know, people a
look at us and having one of the best three products,
maybe even the best product of the market today, and
you know, we're going to keep making it better for
sports fans every day.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Uh fanatics Fest NYC at the Javit Center. What are
the dates, August.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Sixteenth or eighteenth, this Friday through Sunday. We can't wait.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That should be awesome. Listen, I love talking sports with you,
talking about your business. You're a fascinating dude. Thanks so
much for your time with the Sun. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hey, appreciate you so much. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
All right, Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
That's U Michael. Anytime I hear Reuben, I do think
of h I do think of what's the what's the
Sasha Baron Cohen, No, Sasha Baron Cone not the Ruben
Sandwich is very good. Sasha Baron Cohne's character from Ricky

(09:11):
Bobby was a little beam, right, Like I just I
that's what comes to my mind immediately. I'm sorry, but
I am. I am a former trading card guy. But
I was really young at the time. It was my
childhood in Orange County, and I think, I mean, obviously, Jay,
you're like a year and a half older than me,
but I mean it was so big between baseball cards

(09:35):
and garbage pail kids, right, I had a ton of them,
and that like that took up a ton of my time,
a ton of my time. And that's really they got it.
He got into it with sports memorabilia, and then it's
expanded to all this other stuff, all this ot of stuff.
Just just the question, by the way of the things

(09:55):
that didn't work, the NFT thing, that's it got a
lot of smart people. Did you guys ever think the
NFT thing would work?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Though?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I just never did. I was just like, I don't
understand it. I think he'd explained to me, I don't
understand it.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I was going to say, I think we had somebody
on once to specifically talk about it, and after you said,
explain what it is, I still didn't know what it is. Yeah,
to this day, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
If I had the money Doug to purchase a very
expensive piece of art because it's beautiful and also has value,
I would do that. But I'm not going to purchase
something that is a pixelated mess and someone tells me
it's worth two million dollars when it has no history
or standing.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, my issue with the NFT thing was that people
are like, well, this is all new real estate. It's
called the metaverse. And I was like, okay, and again,
what he said about the Cowboys is true, like you
have this historic name, historic franchise, and there's only thirty
two teams, right, so they can basically do what they want.
Price wise, they just keeps going up because there's a

(10:55):
limited supply. Whereas when people start trying to pitch me
on NFT things, I was like, well, if you don't
like that NFT or that piece of real estate, you
just go buy something else, Like no, no, no, no,
this is very unique, like great, but there's unlimited real
estate in the metaverse. But I will say this, if
not for really exploring what the NFT and metaverse was,
I douldn't expect. I wouldn't understand at all. The Spider

(11:18):
Spider Man into the metaverse one which was actually really good,
and Deadpool and Deadpool and Wolverine also really really good,
also used to the metaverse, which I didn't understand. But again,
basically there's unlimited numbers of Deadpools and Wolverines in the
metaverse because the metaverse is limitless and the metaverse is limitless.
That does not make a unique product if you're going

(11:40):
to sell something from.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Metaverse totally, like how it's like the universe that just
keeps expanding like there's you know, why do I want
some time share out on Pluto? I'll stay here.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Don't want to time share period period period, Definitely not
one on Pluto.

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The way tire buying should be so. Like two years
ago when he was at Kentucky, do you guys remember
Will Levitz had this viral video of him drinking coffee
after pouring mayonnaise into it?

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Well, do you remember?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Do you do remember that? Jase do? I don't know
if you remember that, because you're Although you're big on
the viral stuff, you're not big on college football.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, no, I remember it. That kind of stuff turns
me off, though. Mayonnaise with anything other than maybe just
like a sub sandwich turns me off.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I call bs on the hatred for mayonnaise. I just
do for me or anybody. Okay, mayonnaise is that thing
that if you have it in a sandwich and you
don't know you have it in a sandwich, you're like, wow,
what is it about that? What makes this taste so good?
Like mayonnaise?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh, I hate mayonnaise. That's how I view it. That's
how I view it. It's a little bit like you
guys ever had beef tongue, You ever had beef tongue?

Speaker 5 (13:53):
What would it be on? Is it just called beef
tongue or is it called so.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
My dad's side is Hungarian it's like a Hungarian delicacy.
Now the way they make it is disgusting, where it's
like steamed and it's just a big tongue on a
plate and you have like spicy mustard with it. But like,
if you've ever had tacos, if you've had lingua tacos,
I have had. Lacos are delicious, are they not?

Speaker 8 (14:18):
They are?

Speaker 9 (14:19):
But when I haven't had yet.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
When you know that it's beef tongue, you're like, ah, yes, yes,
it's like capa is not tacos. Cob is head, so
it's like, yeah, it's like the muscle from the face
of the of the cow, which is actually quite tender.
It's delicious. But when you know it's like face meat, you're.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Like, oh, waste, not want, not right.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
But the same thing with mayonnaise, Like, have you ever
had like spicy aoli mustard? I mean spicy aoli, Like
that's basically mayonnaise with some other stuff mixed in it.
Oh yeah, everybody acts like they hate mayonnaise. The truth
is you like you like how mayonnaise tastes, you just
don't like mayonnaise. I believe that.

Speaker 9 (15:05):
Yeah, I don't die. I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Here's here's Will Levis in the new Mayonnaise ad, which
has gone viral on social media.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
They drive to define you, but you are the ingredient
to your own success.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Washes maggy.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Smell like greatness, Bill Levice number eight, part from the Mayonnaise.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Perfume de Mayonnaise parfu Mayonnaise. I like it. I like it,
and you know I'm Will Levice. Doesn't cost a lot
of money to get it. Is your spokesman. He's synonymous
with mayonnaise. He's making fun of himself a little bit.
I mean, listen, if women had perfumes that had cheeseburgers,
I mean I would find that woman irresistible. I love cheeseburgers,

(16:16):
love cheeseburgers.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Does Mayo really? I mean it has a smell. I
guess it's. Isn't it like Mayo's like vinegar, egg sugar,
some kind of oil, but doesn't really have that much
of a smell. You know, it smells like I'm subtle.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know it smells like what it smells like mayonnaise.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, it does. Good point.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Let's get to Monty Belanga's for the quick update.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
Months Wait, hold on a second, this is not real, right, Like,
it's just a ad for mayonnaise.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, Helman's muscle.

Speaker 9 (16:41):
Okay, Okay, I was gonna say, because yeah, it doesn't
really have a smell, got it. It's just an ad.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I just watched the video while you guys played the sound,
and I was just like, Okay, I gotta make sure
it's quite funny.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
I agree with you, it's.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Kind of a parody ad. But the marketing was genius.
It was it's all over the NFL blogs, over social
media play yeah know, and at.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
The end of the video there's like a little like
what looks like cologne. Yeah, so that's always gonna get
sets like, way is this real? No, it's just for
Mannie's got It?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did you
guys see Martavius Bryant is in the Washington Commander's camp.
I love this story. I just love that story. Love it,
love it, love it. I mean there's just so many
different angles to it, which I find to be fascinating.
But obviously being out of the NFL that long probably

(17:34):
does help either. The Washington commmmanders announced a pair of
roster moves before the start of today's practice, Martavis Bryant
is in for a visit. It's his second of the
off season. Bryant was officially signed today, so was Remiz
Ahmad Who's excuse me? Remiza Ramot was released in a

(17:55):
corresponding roster move. Dan Quinn talked about Bryant and his
last season when he was on the Dallas Cowboys practice squad.
He said he knows what he's capable of, and Bryan's
in great shape. Brian has n't played in the NFL
since twenty eighteen, and he dealt with multiple suspension violations
of the NFL substance abuse Policy. He spent his first
fourth season in the NFL with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Who's

(18:16):
picked in the fourth round twenty fourteen. He was suspended
in sixteen, but was reinstated the following season. He spent
another season in Pittsburgh before being traded to the Raiders.
He played eight games before going on ir with the
knee injury. More suspensions, the more suspensions started. His post
NFL career included signing with the CFL, the Indoor Football League,

(18:37):
the Fan controlled Football League. In twenty twenty two, he
played for the XFL's Vegas Vipers, appearing in eight games.
Bryant finally returned to the NFL last season, signing with
the Dallas Cowboys after he was reinstated, but he wasn't
activated for any games, apparently caught the eye of dan
Quinn in practice. Now, look, this is part of it
is it's the rabbi in the room, right. Dan Quinn
was with him last year, knew him to be a

(18:58):
pro back as a I don't know, I just I
don't think we're gonna have a Josh Hamilton like bounce
back from substance abuse suspensions. But that's a dude worth
rooting for, isn't it. Twenty eighteen? Twenty eighteen was last
time he's in the NFL. Twenty eighteen with the Raiders.

(19:23):
How many Raiders coaches ago was? Twenty eighteen? You want
to take a guest there, did Jay stew I'll say five?
Five Raiders coaches ago? What about you?

Speaker 6 (19:37):
What's the question, Sam?

Speaker 8 (19:39):
Question?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
How many Raiders coaches? Ago?

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Was?

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Was?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Was Martavis Bryant on the Raiders? So it's two thousand
and eighteen? Was was the season?

Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'll say, Well, there's been a lot of Raiders coaches.
I'll say four.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Four coaches ago, Yeah, okay, Monci, you want to take a.

Speaker 9 (20:02):
Shot seven.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Seven coaches again?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Why not? Okay? So it was the answer. The correct
answer is for yes. Antonio Pears, Josh McDaniels, Rich Basacia
was the now he's with the Packers was the special
teams coach who became the interim coach and they got
to the playoffs and they let him go, and then
John Gruden was in fact the coach in twenty eighteen.

(20:28):
Del Rio finished in twenty seventeen. The raid is right.
And remember they had Tony Spirano for a year. Do
you do people remember they had Tony Sperano for a year.
I'll bet they do not.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I remember his name circulating around football, you know, uh,
football media, because everyone made the Sopranos joke, you know, Sperano.
It just changed one little bit.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
They've had nine head coaches in the last ten years,
nine nine nine. I don't know. It kind of feels
like somebody to root for it. The Jay stew I mean,
you and I have two guys that we've had our
own kind of run ins and obviously not suspension related
things to substance abuse, but dude that a league maybe

(21:09):
gets his life together, let's get his life right. He
just wants to go out there and play. Not a
terrible dude to it for.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
I mean, yesterday we talked about kind of the other
side of this spectrum, but we talked about Steph Curry
and him kind of putting this amazing cherry on top
of an amazing career cake. I ruined that analogy, but
that was kind of cool, and it's a very athletic dude,

(21:38):
and it's a great story. I think this is the
other end of the spectrum that like, this is the
reason we like to cover sports. This is the reason
we follow sports. Somebody to who was at a high
level at some point and then reached some awful personal
experiences where he just couldn't combat the demons. If he
is to play on the football field this season, I'm

(22:01):
going to root for the guy, no matter what he's
gone through. I'm going to root for the guy. And
that's kind of I think that's why we follow sports
and talk about sports for a living.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think it's one of the reasons we talk about sports.
But I also think it's a life thing. Like you
remember behind the musics with VH one. Do you remember
all those? Of course, like everyone was the same, right,
massive drug use band breaks up and then there's a
redemption story and they got a new album coming.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
And then they always have one of the band members
like be like, we're making new music now and we're
sober and our music's better than ever. And I would
always be like, no, no, no, I just listened to
your new music. You were much better when you're on drugs.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's so true. It's so true, like, listen, I don't
want you to use drugs, but if you're going to
record an album for a couple months, like maybe you
should go on a bender. Maybe you should go on
a bender. And I used to love those. I just
love those behind the music, just eat them up. But
they would always they would always have some story of sex, drugs.
Rock and roll band implodes, everybody go to rehab or

(23:00):
somebody goes to rehab, and then they all try and
get it together and very rarely with their new music
being a good and now they're touring at state pairs.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Sorry if you brought this up already, but it reminds
me of us rooting for Josh Gordon right to you. Finally,
get things right, get on a team. You see that
the talent, but the demons keeping holding you back.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't know if I ever rooted for Josh Gordon.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
I just remember he'd always try to make a comeback
and people are like, all right, this time, this time,
let's go like, you know, let's keep on track this time.
Maybe you didn't, but I remember hit that being a
storyline for you know, like five years.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't because and I haven't heard Martavis Bryant, but
there was no There was never any accountability. Like the
thing is, anybody can screw up, right, but you gotta
be you gotta be one. At some point you have
to go, like, you know what that one was me.
You can't go everything with somebody else, the League, the Browns,
the drug tester. You know, this girl gave me something

(23:57):
I didn't know it was in it. You know, you
can't do that all the time. At some point you
have to go that one's on me at some point.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Was it tainted?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Lingua tainted? Now we're going back to Lingua, that's what
we're doing.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Was it tainted Cabasa meat?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Tainted Cabasa meat?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
That was?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Who was that? That was what's his name? Not the
ghost Guerrero. That was, Uh, what's the fighter who said
he had tainted meat?

Speaker 6 (24:24):
That's been the excuse for a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, but it was. He's a good one. It was
what's his name with the red haired Hispanic fighter? Got what?
Why am I? Yeah? It's Canel Lavarez. Canel Lavarez tested
posit for steroids and he's like, ah, it was tainted meat. Really?

Speaker 6 (24:40):
Come on, dude, what are they putting in that that
meat down there in Mexico? I gotta wonder?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, well, I mean, h yeah, yeah, it's dianable. Yeah,
oh yeah, totally they put that in the meat there. No, no,
not not so much, not even not even closed.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
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Speaker 1 (25:09):
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to know. It's called the press, the press months. What

(25:30):
do you got?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
All Right, We're going to start in the NBA coach,
because we now know the NBA Cup schedule.

Speaker 9 (25:38):
We don't know the entire like NBA schedule, but we
do know the Cup, the Emirates Cup.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
You know that the Lakers won, so we know that
it's going to start in November twelfth and go through
December third. On these Cup nights, it's going to be
the kind of the same thing where it's Tuesdays and Fridays,
you know. But we're going to start with the NBA
Cup on the first, November twelfth because on that day
Kalay Thompson will return to the Bay Area to face

(26:07):
the Warriors. So the MAVs and the Warriors are gonna
kick off the NBA Cup on November twelfth.

Speaker 9 (26:12):
That is when his that's gonna be the first time
he returns to the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's kind of early in the year. That's good.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
It is early in the year, very exciting. So that's
it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
That schedule leaks or did the NBA announce No, the.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
NBA announced this just the Cup.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
The entire schedule for the rest of it is going
to be announced on Thursday, August fifteenth, So in two
days we will get the entire schedule. But right now
we just know the NBA Cup schedule, and it starts
with a double header on November twelve, So not just
that one, we're also gonna get the seventy six Ers
and the Knicks, which will be a rematch of the
first round playoff series from last season where the Knicks
outscored the seventy six Ers by one point over six games.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So that's how Lakers Spurs too, right the second that's
the fifteenth, that's the fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
That's the fifteenth, correct Friday, because it's Tuesdays and Fridays
when they're gonna be playing this. So yes, so that
will be on the fifteenth November. Yes, Spurs and Lakers.
So that we now know the groups, you know, because
it's six different groups. Three for the West, three for
the East. We know that if you're curious with the
Lakers are out of West B, Lakers ok se Sun's

(27:18):
Jazz Spurs.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
That is Group West B. Another game we know is
going to happen in Group West B.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
There's three. There's Group wes C and West A, and
there's East C, East B and East A.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
What do we think about the what did we think
about the first version of it? Dog Like last year?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Did you like it. Did you?

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Did it pull your attention away from the NFL?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Sweet?

Speaker 9 (27:46):
No sweet?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
There was I mean I understood what we did it though.
We did it for at least the idea, and I
actually think it's it succeeded in making players play harder, yes, okay,
making them play harder, yes. The problem with it was
there was so much like I don't know who's playing
when what's really at stake? Is this a real game

(28:08):
or so when you do it so in the cup
leagues internally overseas, okay, those those internal couple leagues you
play first and second division teams. So what would make
a true cup league, I guess would be what maybe
G League teams. I don't know if there's a way
to do it or I mean, I would love if
they could ever do it with international teams as well.

(28:30):
But it did accomplish the goal of in November when
we don't care at all about the NBA and before
you know, Christmas Day. At least we paid a mild
amount of attention to it, and it did feel like
there were games which guys played harder.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yep, it's true that I agree that it really did
make regular season or like what we you know, are
used to regular season games matter a little bit more.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
We do know one regular.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Season game that's not going to be during the Cup,
you know, November whatever, twelve through December third or six,
whatever it was. Paul George will return to face the
Clippers on November sixth.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
There here, I do.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
I do want to be there hating.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I do.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
I want to be there booing Paul George.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Hmmm.

Speaker 9 (29:18):
I don't want to sit at the wall because the
wall looks a little steep, but I want to be right.
I am gonna hate. I am gonna hate.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I think this is the first time where all of
Clipper Nation really is gonna band together to hate one player.

Speaker 9 (29:36):
Hmm okay, yeah, it's very excited about that, very excited. Okay,
too excited, I know. All right, let's move on here.
So I just got this sound. I'm gonna play a
little bit of it.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I doubt that there's any cursing in it, but this
is hair had Rogers discussing the upcoming book written by
Ian O'Connor. Awful announcing has this video, but he's talking
to w fan and so I'm gonna play a little
bit of it, a little bit about the.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Book authorizer not authorized biography by you.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
That's a rhetorical question.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Okay, is it that?

Speaker 6 (30:09):
I guess I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's hard to tell. I can't I honestly, I swear
to you.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
I was looking up this.

Speaker 10 (30:14):
I couldn't figure it out because there were quotes in there,
so it looked like you gave your blessing. But then
on the other hand, it looked like there was stuff
in there that you didn't want to be in there,
So I was confused. I'm like, you know, what'screwed? I'm
just going to ask him as opposed to look up answer.
He did a lot of research. It has nothing to
do with me, but he did a lot of research
on his own. He's done other books with other famous

(30:35):
people in sports. I think he reached out to five
hundred people and talked to maybe half those people at
the end before although he'd already written.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I believe a first draft. We had a conversation that
sat down. It was more just kind of him asking
a few things, a lot of the stuff that was
in there. I mean, he is twenty plus years old,
and I commend him for the time he spent it,
but it's not a book that I, you know, asked
him to write for me. He wrote on his own,

(31:05):
and there'll be some interesting things in there that are
perspective based. They'll for sure be some stuff that's true.
I mean, he wrote the first chapter I believe about
my grandfather, which is pretty cool. I mean, he came,
he sent me a copy of the There was a
war war crimes tribunal that got together because my grandfather

(31:26):
was shot down in the First World War and spent
nine months in a buw camp and there were some
rough conditions there and he had to testify in front
of the War Crimes Commission. That's not the cool part.
The cool part is that he had to give a
bunch of information out about his past, and so I
got to learn stuff about my grandfather, like where he
was living at, what his jobs were. I didn't know

(31:47):
you went to the University of Texas at Austin, you know,
a bunch of really cool things. So I appreciate that
kind of research that he did. And there's other stories
in there that are true that I'm sure are true.

Speaker 9 (31:57):
There's so I find it funny.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
He said it had nothing to do with me, but
he obviously knew about it, and there's more to it
that he like interviewed hundreds of people to get more
information on Aaron Rodgers. That's how he does his books though, yes, correct, correct, yeah,
but yeah, like there's like more details of it, but yeah,
Aaron Rodgers says it's he didn't he didn't authorize it.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, no, no, it's an unauthorized biography. But tell me,
you guys heard this, Like I felt like he has
a tremendous amount of respect for Ian.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
It seems that way.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yet, like there'll be a and that's generally how it is,
right where like, look, he's probably not every story is
going to be as Aaron remembers it, and it may
not be maybe from somebody else's perspective a different you know,
and sometimes they're trying to see into Aaron's brain and
guess and I don't know how much that was taken

(32:50):
into his actual interview with him.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But I do think, like if I listen to that,
I have to pick up this book because I O'Connor
did a great job of researching it.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
It sounds like an endorsement. It sounds like an endorsement
for the book, But he leaves himself an out, like
the things in there that I'm going to leave myself
some deniability for the stuff that I don't really i'm
not comfortable talking about. But all the great stuff that
you're about to read is definitely true because it's a
great author. And I think that he also said later

(33:20):
on in this exchange, in this interview that he's probably
not going to read it. And I'm thinking, if somebody
spent all those interviews and wrote a four hundred page
book about you, Doug, do you ever see yourself not
reading it?

Speaker 9 (33:33):
Like, you know what he meant by that, he's not
going to read it. He's going to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
So's audiobook.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
I love audiobook.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
Yeah, you know what he means. He likes to with
his words. He's not going to read it, He's just
going to listen to it.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, because it's Aaron Rodgers and he does one of
the other quotes says, I commend him. He was really
trying to do a good job and get the entire picture. So,
like you said, there seems to be a lot of respect.
And yeah, I agree, he left himself a bit of
an out. I will definitely be reading this book, I
for sure, and I'm sure Rogers will be listening to
what All right, let's move on here, move on here, Doug.

(34:09):
The big story is obviously JJ McCarthy, rookie quarterback for
the Minnesota Vikings Stephanie Tormentiscus during their preseason victory on
a Saturday, Sam Donald in position to start Week one.
Here is head coach Kevin O'Connell talking about Donald.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
You know, Sam's had a really good camp. At my
confidence level and Sam is very very high at this
point and looking forward to seeing him continue his progression.
And I know his teammates and the rest of the
coaching staff have been really enthused by what Sam's done.
And like I said, my confidence level is really high
in Sam.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
Yeah what else is he going to say?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Though?

Speaker 11 (34:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
No, but yeah, what else is he going to say?
Is completely correct? I just I started the show with this.
Sam Donald's a guy that he's from Orange County, a
guy I've gotten to know a little bit. I like
a tremendous amount. But he's also there's been other quarterbacks.
You get thrust into a tough situation and you know,
it's we all. We always have people on radio and

(35:04):
TV saying just play the kid, play and play and
play him. And he wasn't ready and that team wasn't
ready for a quarterback, and they didn't have a good
enough roster around him. And I don't think he was
particularly well coached. Now since the at some point there's accountability.
You had to be good enough. And last year with
San Francisco forty nine ers, when he was surrounded by
elite talent, he was just okay in some backup, backup stints.

(35:26):
Now it's your team. You've got a team last year
that your quarterback was on pace to throw for six
thousand yards. It's not just quarterback friendly. You have a
quarterback as your head coach. This is his last great
shot of being a starter in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah yeah, speaking of having another shot in the NFL
at a as a quarterback, justin fields a little sound
from him today talking about his offense.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
I don't think I had to do too much work today.
You know, I throw up two screens and they go
for about fifty sixty yards. So Khalil and j made
my job. He's you know, aligned did it. So definitely
thankful for that for sure. Anytime you have those playmakers
where you can throw the ball five yards or on
a slant and he can take it, you know, six yards.
You know, that makes my job easier, That makes the
line jobs easier.

Speaker 9 (36:09):
Do you think he purposely said that having playmakers?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I think he does have a playmaker.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
No, no, no, because of like his past you know,
in Chicago here he is now in Pittsburgh. Do you
think he was like, kind of you know, I have
I actually have playmakers.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Now, maybe that's such a good point. They did not
have a very good wide receiving court, no court, No question,
it's a good point.

Speaker 9 (36:34):
Yeah, thats just what stood out to me when I
heard that.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah. Good.

Speaker 9 (36:37):
What do you make of the situation though with him
and Russell Wilson?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I don't think Justin Fields is very good. I don't
think Russell Wilson is nearly what he used to be.
But Russell will get every opportunity to fail before Justin
Fields convinced any shot.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Do we we expect Wilson right to be the starting
quarterback equin, Yes, but we don't expect that to lost.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I don't. But again I I the runway. I think
he'll be given a lot more opportunities to fail.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Lastly here, I mean we kind of joked about it
a little bit earlier, just a tiny bit, but Michigan
did announce that Jim Harbaugh will not be an honorary
captain for the season opener because he does not want
to be away from the Chargers that I call bull chips, right,

(37:26):
I mean, come on, it just was funny. So there
we'd have suspended him for four years from football and
now here he's gonna be the honorary captain.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
No, he's not. He wants to stay with the Chargers
just so good.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
No, I mean, I just it would have been a
bad look to go out there and celebrate him when
he got a show. Cause, sure, but they just want
a national championship, so I windn't they?

Speaker 8 (37:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
So, but I mean otherre's zero point zero percent chance,
zero point zero percent chance that this has nothing to
do with the NCAA stuff, right, And that's the press.
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