August 28, 2024 • 18 mins
Doug riffs on the first Thursday night football game of the college football season. Doug reacts to Chris Broussard's take on Kevin Garnett and Anthony Edwards. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Rasheed Wallace makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What that's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,
we're doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Do do do? Do do?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So we're team minus.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What a couple of days here from college football kicking
off in full But we got college football games upcoming tomorrow,
right Thursdays is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And you know, look these early ones.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The quality of play is not great, the weather is
usually really sticky in most places, not awesome, and you
will get some one off upsets.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What I find to be fascinating is these teams that
are scheduled, the high level one double A teams, right
the Colorado taken on North Dakota State, Oklahoma State taken
on South Dakota State, Like why are we playing? Those
are ones where if you lose the game, you turn
to your director of ops, who schedules the games and goes,
what are you doing? Even though as head coach you
have final say of who you want to play, who
(01:16):
you don't want to play. And I think most of
these schools in the major conferences come at it with
the same perception, which is all we care about. There's
games that we want to be competitive, and there's games
that we have to win. This has got to be
a game we have to win, and it's really hard because, yes,
technically your team may be better than the other team
(01:38):
in terms of personnel, but the other reality to it
is they may have played together longer, they may be older,
and they aren't playing to be NFL players. They're just
playing to kick your ass. Scheduling is absolutely a huge
key element to the game, and trying to schedule along
with your league is all.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Try to make it all kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
If you're going to write a check to somebody to
come play you, you're writing a check guarantee that you
win that game.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Otherwise it's bad coaching. Bad coaching.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know, if you're playing, you're writing a check too.
They have to be to the level that they can't
They can't beat you even on their best day. That's
what every coach in America thinks.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let's Get to the
Box Seat and now.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Say, here's Brady Quinn on why NFL teams are always
optimistic about the start of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Here's why.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Much like, if you're the team right now in the NFL,
I start off with the glass at foole because that's
all you have to do at this point in time.
This season, it's the Yeah, thirty two teams, anyone could
win it.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
In my heart, after experiencing the NFL, I think, you know,
there's like eight teams, probably eight to ten franchises you
feel like are legitimately trying to win a Super Bowl.
Most are just trying to run a profitable business, and
then the rest are just like it might be like
a cool toy the billionaire owner has. But the reality
(03:21):
is at the start of the season you can be
optimistic because it's all out there for you.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know, it's all there for you.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
It's once you get into it, about eight, nine, ten
weeks where you get an identity of that team, you're like,
this is probably not gonna work. You know, that's the
time where you can be a glass half empty guy.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think it's first month of the year.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, if you start looking around, they think it's
not going to work. We gay, and I no doubt
that's when Quentin time starts. But it's really really hard
to fool players. They know what's up. Who knows they're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Who doesn't. Here's Dan Patrick talking about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
There's a different been overrated and overcovered, and I think
that we makes that mistake sometimes that we overcover somebody.
The media is the reason for somebody being maybe overrated,
like Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's a really good quarterback. I
don't know if he's a great quarterback, but he's overcovered
(04:19):
and we expect him to fall in line with Troy
Aikman and Roger Staubach. That's not who he is. But
he's a really good quarterback. But because he gets covered
so much, overcovered so much, he disappoints us instead of saying, man,
what a great story. This is where he was drafted,
takes over for Tony Romo, and he's been a really
(04:42):
good at times really good, almost great quarterback. He was
an MVP candidate. Josh Allen, I don't see it now
he's overcovered. Do I think that he's overrated. I mean,
he's made it to an AFC title. If you want
to say who is overrated. This is going to sound strange,
say Lamar Jackson from the standpoint of he's won two
(05:04):
MVPs but has nothing to show for it when he
gets to the postseason. And when we look at the coverage,
you get, the attention you get. We want to see
what your quarterback does when he gets to the postseason.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's not fair to him.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
But if we're looking at he's great regular season quarterback,
now what do you do in the postseason? Ben, you
would find him overrated.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I think it's a great way of having a discussion.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I just I think that Lamar Jackson's overrated because he
has gotten to the playoffs. He has won a couple
playoff games, but he hasn't shown the ability to lead
a team towards championship caliber football.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Just as not.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But it's a really, really interesting way of deciphering the
strong words and semantics. Here's Chris Brussard talking about the
recent comments by Anthony Edwards and Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
The young boys are going way too far and ripping
the nineties and KG and I get it, but this
is KG going too far on them. Kg's bothered by
and I get it because he played in the nineties,
he was great in the two thousand arts. He's an
all time great. That's his era and you're darn right.
(06:16):
He's like, are you crazy? KG is going too far
though in saying none of these guys could play in
the twenty years ago. And here's why I say that,
because well, let me throw this out.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That's the equivalent what he's saying.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
It was so physical, you know, you couldn't get this,
you couldn't get that. That's essentially the same thing as
the young boy saying, Man, the dudes couldn't even play
today because they didn't shoot the three like we do.
They don't have the handles that we do. There was more,
and they weren't nearly at least league wide. They weren't
as athletic overall as we are. And they both have points.
(06:58):
But my point that trump's them all is this, the
superstars of every era would be at least stars in
any era.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Uh yeah, generally, I would agree with Brussard in that
one the superstars would be at least stars.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
They would figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think there's some you know, it's hard for me
to know what Tim Duncan would be where he'd have
to shoot threes or you know, he was a very
good shop blocker, but I don't know what he's like
as a roller. You know, there's some guys you're like,
I don't know, but generally yet. But it's also why
you can't compare inter eras, because eras are just the
style of basketball, physicality of it. The officiating change, the
(07:45):
rule changes that just change stuff. Don't compare Wilt Chamberlain,
don't compare Kareem abdulge Bar mid career. Most of us
saw Kareem at the end of his career in LA
and it's really hard to compare him to.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
The stars of today. It's just not smart, but a
smart take from Brussard. That's what the fuck is at.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Say.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Hey, there's an interesting back and forth this week. I'm
entertained by it. I like when people are uncomfortable and
when people trash talk. I'm still old school. I like
shit talking. So it started with Dion Sanders and the
Colorado banning the columnists from asking questions at the press conference,
and that caused a stir in the media, and then,
(08:46):
of course Fine Bomb ripped Dion for being all about
himself and censoring people. So Dion went on RG three's
podcast and I guess he does it with his wife,
and uh, this is how that exchange went.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
So when you hear guys like Paul find but I'm
calling your program irrelevant, he's talking about us. How can
we be irrelevant and you talking about me? Every time
I turn around, somebody sending me a quote that you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So he's a fan.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Well, the thing about a fan, you got to understand.
A fan only blows when you're hot.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm gonna go away.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Come on, man, I'm writing these down.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
A fan only blows when you hot, so we must
be hot. So I know what he's doing, and I'm
proud of him that he's smart enough to understand that
this generation and the thought processing, the way we communicate
on sports, it's different. Yes, and he's a dying breed,
So what does he have to do to state and
(09:53):
keep up with this change? Oh, I got to go
find that big bad wolf and talk about it. Yeah,
so now I keep my relevancy, and I'm saying cool,
but I'm not going to help you. I'm not going
to add tea. I'm not going to respond because that's
what you want. Yeah, you just want me to respond.
I don't do that. I'm not going to help you
(10:15):
come up.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
So the annoying part of that part is Dion always
does this. He says, I'm not going to respond to you,
but I'm going to insult you. But so that is
a response that as you're saying I'm not going to
respond to you, he insults him. So Paul Finebaum went
on ESPN this morning to respond to that.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It didn't mean very much to me because it was
a fairly irrelevant reaction. He did say something that I
agree with. He he called me a dying breed in
the profession, which I'm proud of because I really do
believe that the media should be treated with respect and
not have selective persecution like he is using out there,
not only with this reporter from Denver, but other reporters
(10:57):
as well.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think that's a walk off shot. I think we
could have our issues with Finebaum in general. But I
think that that I think he won that one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I would say so as well. I just you know,
I understand the idea of defiance. But if you're really
not going to talk about anybody, don't talk about anybody.
So he made Finebaumb more relevance while trying to prove
his own relevance, and then talked about a guy he
said he wouldn't talk about. Yeah, I completely win for
fine bamb.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Let's see, I keep getting mailings from President Trump. So
here's the there's a dark, not a dark. There's a
distinct contrast between our two presidential candidates. And here's one example.
I am an independent, undecided voter, so I am bloody
(11:45):
meat in the water for these two candidates. Kamala Harris
has text me directly. She texts me directly asking for
my support.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom too, got He's got me too. I
don't know how.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And then Donald try Up sends snail mail mailings to me.
It's like the difference between your sibling and your parents.
That's the difference. Snail mail to me could go away forever,
especially with the invent of Amazon and their technology. Do
(12:22):
we really need to go to the mailbox to get
a letter that was sent with a stamp. It's just
so inconvenient now. And while you're at it, while you're
getting rid of snail mail letters, let's get rid of pennies.
What do you do when you see when you have
a couple of pennies in your pocket? You throw them away?
(12:45):
So if we can get rid of pennies and snail mail,
I think society would be much better off.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You get rid of your pennies.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, if if there's a spare penny or what do
you do with it? It's an inconvenience. Would you have
a piggy bank or something?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, I'll hold on to it and then somehow
try and find a way to use it. But yeah, yeah,
that's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
What else is annoying you?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You brought this to my attention this morning. So you
watched the Connor Stallions documentary and we talked about on
the radio. It's kind of the documentary of the week.
There's like one every week that everyone watches. And you
made this point, and I agree documentaries for whatever whatever reason,
(13:37):
since I think since the pandemic, because when we were
locked down, everyone just watched every documentary ever made, and
I think since then we put much more credence in documentaries,
and that a documentary becomes the record, the official record
of the story, which is is just completely absurd. And
it's one of the reasons why I've always thought that
(13:58):
Tiger Woods. Should you like a point by point interview
to talk about the documentary made by Tiger Woods. It
was a one sided documentary about his life. He had
one sided with one sided witnesses and interviewees. And the
one huge thing missing from the Tiger Woods documentary was
Tiger Woods. But that's the kind of nature of the business.
(14:23):
People aren't really equipped or well read enough to like
find out about things other ways. So you watch an
entertaining documentary no matter what the slant is, and all
of a sudden that becomes the record.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's super annoying that way, right, that no matter what
you put on a documentary, people take it as the law.
When we don't do like a fact check on documentaries,
or nobody actually checks out to see if it's a
fact check.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
On documentaries, super super annoying anything else.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
No, So we got snail mail and pennies and then
documentaries being the official A record and then Deon Sanders
saying I'm not gonna respond as he's responding, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Gonna go snail mail on a snail mail because also
the pace of snail mail like screws up. Sometimes you
will say, well I put in a mail and you'll
get the next day. Sometimes you put in a mail,
you don't see it for weeks. There's no consistency to it.
I get plenty of mailers for things I don't want.
I have to update my address all the time where
it's my cell phone I take with me all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Snail bail is that?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why are we doing this? Because we can.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
So?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Today Rashid Wallace enters this feature and he's again he's
an old head talking about old head basketball, and he
gets into the Michael Jordan was overrated as a defender debate.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Mike wasn't all that good of a defender in all
defensive teams that all us NBA shit, Yeah, we like
my We're gonna put him on there. I'm talking about
being out there. I've seen this motherfucker get his ass
bust where he couldn't stop a motherfucker get a JR.
Ryder Yeah, probably Gainst Clyde d wrestler. Shit, don't forget
the early Joe Dumars. And I'm not saying that he
(16:15):
didn't play defense. I'm just saying that his defense wasn't
as high as most other Cats at that time. We
couldn't put him on like ten or eleven consecutive first
team or defense and joint stop.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Was Rashid Walls. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean again, this is he falls into line with
those guys.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
We talked about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Gilbertinas, Baron Davis is like this as well. Gilbertinas, Baron Davis,
Kevin Garnett, and Rashid Wallas. Baron Davis was maybe the
most talented point guard of my era, you know, to
come out and he was unbelievable. Of course, he towards
knees last game as a freshman. That's why I came
back for his sophomore year. But like Baron Davis, all
(17:05):
star caliber player, Kilberderina's all star caliber player, Kevin Garnett
like elite top five in league level caliber player, and
Rashid Wallace had top five talent, probably never.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Top five player.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The point is, what do they all have in common? Well,
they were all very good players, guys with heavy opinions,
but guys that they're not mainstream opinions for a myriad
of reasons. And they do prove that while they can
have the opinions of other people on TV, there's nothing
that really special or separates them, especially ones.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like that one about Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And again, this is kind of what happens is because
Rashid Wallace was relatively in that generation, it becomes kind
of law as opposed to somebody going like, yeah, Rashid
Wallas doesn't like you know, there's a chance you don't
like somebody, or don't like how somebody was to you,
or you or a don't believe the hype guy or whatever.
I don't know, but I've literally never heard anybody say
(17:59):
that about Michael Jordan ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, Like,
can we play it for you?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Because we can. All Right, that's it for the end
of the Modus podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What that's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,
we're doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Do do do? Do do?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So we're team minus.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What a couple of days here from college football kicking
off in full But we got college football games upcoming tomorrow,
right Thursdays is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And you know, look these early ones.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The quality of play is not great, the weather is
usually really sticky in most places, not awesome, and you
will get some one off upsets.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What I find to be fascinating is these teams that
are scheduled, the high level one double A teams, right
the Colorado taken on North Dakota State, Oklahoma State taken
on South Dakota State, Like why are we playing? Those
are ones where if you lose the game, you turn
to your director of ops, who schedules the games and goes,
what are you doing? Even though as head coach you
have final say of who you want to play, who
(01:16):
you don't want to play. And I think most of
these schools in the major conferences come at it with
the same perception, which is all we care about. There's
games that we want to be competitive, and there's games
that we have to win. This has got to be
a game we have to win, and it's really hard because, yes,
technically your team may be better than the other team
(01:38):
in terms of personnel, but the other reality to it
is they may have played together longer, they may be older,
and they aren't playing to be NFL players. They're just
playing to kick your ass. Scheduling is absolutely a huge
key element to the game, and trying to schedule along
with your league is all.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Try to make it all kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
If you're going to write a check to somebody to
come play you, you're writing a check guarantee that you
win that game.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Otherwise it's bad coaching. Bad coaching.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know, if you're playing, you're writing a check too.
They have to be to the level that they can't
They can't beat you even on their best day. That's
what every coach in America thinks.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let's Get to the
Box Seat and now.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Say, here's Brady Quinn on why NFL teams are always
optimistic about the start of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Here's why.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Much like, if you're the team right now in the NFL,
I start off with the glass at foole because that's
all you have to do at this point in time.
This season, it's the Yeah, thirty two teams, anyone could
win it.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
In my heart, after experiencing the NFL, I think, you know,
there's like eight teams, probably eight to ten franchises you
feel like are legitimately trying to win a Super Bowl.
Most are just trying to run a profitable business, and
then the rest are just like it might be like
a cool toy the billionaire owner has. But the reality
(03:21):
is at the start of the season you can be
optimistic because it's all out there for you.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know, it's all there for you.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
It's once you get into it, about eight, nine, ten
weeks where you get an identity of that team, you're like,
this is probably not gonna work. You know, that's the
time where you can be a glass half empty guy.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think it's first month of the year.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, if you start looking around, they think it's
not going to work. We gay, and I no doubt
that's when Quentin time starts. But it's really really hard
to fool players. They know what's up. Who knows they're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Who doesn't. Here's Dan Patrick talking about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
There's a different been overrated and overcovered, and I think
that we makes that mistake sometimes that we overcover somebody.
The media is the reason for somebody being maybe overrated,
like Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's a really good quarterback. I
don't know if he's a great quarterback, but he's overcovered
(04:19):
and we expect him to fall in line with Troy
Aikman and Roger Staubach. That's not who he is. But
he's a really good quarterback. But because he gets covered
so much, overcovered so much, he disappoints us instead of saying, man,
what a great story. This is where he was drafted,
takes over for Tony Romo, and he's been a really
(04:42):
good at times really good, almost great quarterback. He was
an MVP candidate. Josh Allen, I don't see it now
he's overcovered. Do I think that he's overrated. I mean,
he's made it to an AFC title. If you want
to say who is overrated. This is going to sound strange,
say Lamar Jackson from the standpoint of he's won two
(05:04):
MVPs but has nothing to show for it when he
gets to the postseason. And when we look at the coverage,
you get, the attention you get. We want to see
what your quarterback does when he gets to the postseason.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's not fair to him.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
But if we're looking at he's great regular season quarterback,
now what do you do in the postseason? Ben, you
would find him overrated.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I think it's a great way of having a discussion.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I just I think that Lamar Jackson's overrated because he
has gotten to the playoffs. He has won a couple
playoff games, but he hasn't shown the ability to lead
a team towards championship caliber football.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Just as not.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But it's a really, really interesting way of deciphering the
strong words and semantics. Here's Chris Brussard talking about the
recent comments by Anthony Edwards and Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
The young boys are going way too far and ripping
the nineties and KG and I get it, but this
is KG going too far on them. Kg's bothered by
and I get it because he played in the nineties,
he was great in the two thousand arts. He's an
all time great. That's his era and you're darn right.
(06:16):
He's like, are you crazy? KG is going too far
though in saying none of these guys could play in
the twenty years ago. And here's why I say that,
because well, let me throw this out.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That's the equivalent what he's saying.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
It was so physical, you know, you couldn't get this,
you couldn't get that. That's essentially the same thing as
the young boy saying, Man, the dudes couldn't even play
today because they didn't shoot the three like we do.
They don't have the handles that we do. There was more,
and they weren't nearly at least league wide. They weren't
as athletic overall as we are. And they both have points.
(06:58):
But my point that trump's them all is this, the
superstars of every era would be at least stars in
any era.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Uh yeah, generally, I would agree with Brussard in that
one the superstars would be at least stars.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
They would figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think there's some you know, it's hard for me
to know what Tim Duncan would be where he'd have
to shoot threes or you know, he was a very
good shop blocker, but I don't know what he's like
as a roller. You know, there's some guys you're like,
I don't know, but generally yet. But it's also why
you can't compare inter eras, because eras are just the
style of basketball, physicality of it. The officiating change, the
(07:45):
rule changes that just change stuff. Don't compare Wilt Chamberlain,
don't compare Kareem abdulge Bar mid career. Most of us
saw Kareem at the end of his career in LA
and it's really hard to compare him to.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
The stars of today. It's just not smart, but a
smart take from Brussard. That's what the fuck is at.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Say.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Hey, there's an interesting back and forth this week. I'm
entertained by it. I like when people are uncomfortable and
when people trash talk. I'm still old school. I like
shit talking. So it started with Dion Sanders and the
Colorado banning the columnists from asking questions at the press conference,
and that caused a stir in the media, and then,
(08:46):
of course Fine Bomb ripped Dion for being all about
himself and censoring people. So Dion went on RG three's
podcast and I guess he does it with his wife,
and uh, this is how that exchange went.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
So when you hear guys like Paul find but I'm
calling your program irrelevant, he's talking about us. How can
we be irrelevant and you talking about me? Every time
I turn around, somebody sending me a quote that you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So he's a fan.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Well, the thing about a fan, you got to understand.
A fan only blows when you're hot.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm gonna go away.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Come on, man, I'm writing these down.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
A fan only blows when you hot, so we must
be hot. So I know what he's doing, and I'm
proud of him that he's smart enough to understand that
this generation and the thought processing, the way we communicate
on sports, it's different. Yes, and he's a dying breed,
So what does he have to do to state and
(09:53):
keep up with this change? Oh, I got to go
find that big bad wolf and talk about it. Yeah,
so now I keep my relevancy, and I'm saying cool,
but I'm not going to help you. I'm not going
to add tea. I'm not going to respond because that's
what you want. Yeah, you just want me to respond.
I don't do that. I'm not going to help you
(10:15):
come up.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
So the annoying part of that part is Dion always
does this. He says, I'm not going to respond to you,
but I'm going to insult you. But so that is
a response that as you're saying I'm not going to
respond to you, he insults him. So Paul Finebaum went
on ESPN this morning to respond to that.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It didn't mean very much to me because it was
a fairly irrelevant reaction. He did say something that I
agree with. He he called me a dying breed in
the profession, which I'm proud of because I really do
believe that the media should be treated with respect and
not have selective persecution like he is using out there,
not only with this reporter from Denver, but other reporters
(10:57):
as well.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think that's a walk off shot. I think we
could have our issues with Finebaum in general. But I
think that that I think he won that one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I would say so as well. I just you know,
I understand the idea of defiance. But if you're really
not going to talk about anybody, don't talk about anybody.
So he made Finebaumb more relevance while trying to prove
his own relevance, and then talked about a guy he
said he wouldn't talk about. Yeah, I completely win for
fine bamb.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Let's see, I keep getting mailings from President Trump. So
here's the there's a dark, not a dark. There's a
distinct contrast between our two presidential candidates. And here's one example.
I am an independent, undecided voter, so I am bloody
(11:45):
meat in the water for these two candidates. Kamala Harris
has text me directly. She texts me directly asking for
my support.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom too, got He's got me too. I
don't know how.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And then Donald try Up sends snail mail mailings to me.
It's like the difference between your sibling and your parents.
That's the difference. Snail mail to me could go away forever,
especially with the invent of Amazon and their technology. Do
(12:22):
we really need to go to the mailbox to get
a letter that was sent with a stamp. It's just
so inconvenient now. And while you're at it, while you're
getting rid of snail mail letters, let's get rid of pennies.
What do you do when you see when you have
a couple of pennies in your pocket? You throw them away?
(12:45):
So if we can get rid of pennies and snail mail,
I think society would be much better off.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You get rid of your pennies.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, if if there's a spare penny or what do
you do with it? It's an inconvenience. Would you have
a piggy bank or something?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, I'll hold on to it and then somehow
try and find a way to use it. But yeah, yeah,
that's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
What else is annoying you?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You brought this to my attention this morning. So you
watched the Connor Stallions documentary and we talked about on
the radio. It's kind of the documentary of the week.
There's like one every week that everyone watches. And you
made this point, and I agree documentaries for whatever whatever reason,
(13:37):
since I think since the pandemic, because when we were
locked down, everyone just watched every documentary ever made, and
I think since then we put much more credence in documentaries,
and that a documentary becomes the record, the official record
of the story, which is is just completely absurd. And
it's one of the reasons why I've always thought that
(13:58):
Tiger Woods. Should you like a point by point interview
to talk about the documentary made by Tiger Woods. It
was a one sided documentary about his life. He had
one sided with one sided witnesses and interviewees. And the
one huge thing missing from the Tiger Woods documentary was
Tiger Woods. But that's the kind of nature of the business.
(14:23):
People aren't really equipped or well read enough to like
find out about things other ways. So you watch an
entertaining documentary no matter what the slant is, and all
of a sudden that becomes the record.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's super annoying that way, right, that no matter what
you put on a documentary, people take it as the law.
When we don't do like a fact check on documentaries,
or nobody actually checks out to see if it's a
fact check.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
On documentaries, super super annoying anything else.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
No, So we got snail mail and pennies and then
documentaries being the official A record and then Deon Sanders
saying I'm not gonna respond as he's responding, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Gonna go snail mail on a snail mail because also
the pace of snail mail like screws up. Sometimes you
will say, well I put in a mail and you'll
get the next day. Sometimes you put in a mail,
you don't see it for weeks. There's no consistency to it.
I get plenty of mailers for things I don't want.
I have to update my address all the time where
it's my cell phone I take with me all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Snail bail is that?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why are we doing this? Because we can.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
So?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Today Rashid Wallace enters this feature and he's again he's
an old head talking about old head basketball, and he
gets into the Michael Jordan was overrated as a defender debate.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Mike wasn't all that good of a defender in all
defensive teams that all us NBA shit, Yeah, we like
my We're gonna put him on there. I'm talking about
being out there. I've seen this motherfucker get his ass
bust where he couldn't stop a motherfucker get a JR.
Ryder Yeah, probably Gainst Clyde d wrestler. Shit, don't forget
the early Joe Dumars. And I'm not saying that he
(16:15):
didn't play defense. I'm just saying that his defense wasn't
as high as most other Cats at that time. We
couldn't put him on like ten or eleven consecutive first
team or defense and joint stop.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Was Rashid Walls. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean again, this is he falls into line with
those guys.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
We talked about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Gilbertinas, Baron Davis is like this as well. Gilbertinas, Baron Davis,
Kevin Garnett, and Rashid Wallas. Baron Davis was maybe the
most talented point guard of my era, you know, to
come out and he was unbelievable. Of course, he towards
knees last game as a freshman. That's why I came
back for his sophomore year. But like Baron Davis, all
(17:05):
star caliber player, Kilberderina's all star caliber player, Kevin Garnett
like elite top five in league level caliber player, and
Rashid Wallace had top five talent, probably never.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Top five player.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The point is, what do they all have in common? Well,
they were all very good players, guys with heavy opinions,
but guys that they're not mainstream opinions for a myriad
of reasons. And they do prove that while they can
have the opinions of other people on TV, there's nothing
that really special or separates them, especially ones.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like that one about Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And again, this is kind of what happens is because
Rashid Wallace was relatively in that generation, it becomes kind
of law as opposed to somebody going like, yeah, Rashid
Wallas doesn't like you know, there's a chance you don't
like somebody, or don't like how somebody was to you,
or you or a don't believe the hype guy or whatever.
I don't know, but I've literally never heard anybody say
(17:59):
that about Michael Jordan ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, Like,
can we play it for you?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Because we can. All Right, that's it for the end
of the Modus podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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