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October 21, 2024 50 mins

On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:  Doug explains why the Dodgers v Yankees for a World Series matchup is what Major League Baseball wanted and needed.

Doug and the crew share what they loved most and what they hated most about the sports weekend. 

Doug gives his take on the Chiefs as they found a way to beat the 49ers Sunday. Doug welcomes Chiefs' great and former All-Pro running back Jamaal Charles onto the show to talk about the Longhorns, Chiefs and BBQ. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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we have Georgia eating Texas, Texas's fans throwing stuff on
the field and causing it two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Fine,
plus the officiating was bad, but the game doesn't really

(01:08):
matter because both teams are going to play in the
College Fall Playoff. We'll get to that now or maybe
in the podcast. We obviously have the NFL game where
the Saquon Barkley return home, he gets booed, dominates, Eagles
beat the Giants. You know, there's a bunch of Chargers
side against the against the Cardinals. What else do you have?
I mean, obviously yesterday's NFL game. I went to the

(01:29):
Packers game. What an unbelievable game for the Packers to
be minus three in turnovers and yet still win. I mean,
as bad as special teams play as you're ever going
to see, and then win on a field goal, which
is ironic because you know, Brenda McManus is a new
field goal kicker. We can get to that. There's a
lot of things. The Detroit Lions, with a tremendous win

(01:51):
over the Minnesota Vikings, who lose by two, got a
chance late in the game to tie it. But I
think we got to start with the World Series. And
here's the thing about chi about Yankees, Dodgers or Dodgers Yankees,
however you want to lead it. I am not a
Dodger fan. I like the Dodgers, I love going to games,

(02:12):
I love Dodger Stadium. But I'm not gonna sit here
and lie to you and go like I'm a lifelong
Doggar fan. I'm an Angel fan. I envy what the
Dodgers have. Truly. They have a better stadium, they have us,
they have a better team, their ownership group has hired
better people, and they have a way, way, way better roster.

(02:34):
And you know, obviously all the complaining out of Dodger
Land about not winning enough World Series. I think there
is a next level to the discussion, which is, if
they lose to the Yankees, is is it a great season?
By the way, I think the answer is yes, because
they won their division, beat their beat their rivals in

(02:56):
the Padres, and then beat the Mets in six games. Like,
I don't know how it wouldn't be a great season.
But again, that's a different part of this discussion that
we can absolutely positively get to. We don't necessarily need
to get to it at this particular moment. What I
think this moment is really good for I think this

(03:18):
moment is really really good, really good for reflection on
how big this is for baseball, and in contrast to
the mistakes that the WNBA and USA Basketball made this year.

(03:39):
And I understand that, like the WNBA, how many of
you know that their championship was decided last night. I didn't.
And there's a lot of complaining on social media. And
then I saw Cheryl Reeve I think is her name,
who's the coach of USA basketball, but also the Minnesota
team the Links complaining about the officiating. Whatever I did,

(04:00):
I don't. I have multiple TVs. I did the four
square thing, but I don't care enough, like that's really
the reality of it. I really don't care. And oh yeah,
by the way, it was up against the NLCS, which
I did care about, and it was also up against
Sunday Night Football, which I did care about. And some

(04:22):
of that they can't control, because you can't control, dictate,
mandate who improves, who's in the playoffs. Those are better
teams than the Fever. But the point of it is,
here's why I think it's paramount for baseball to have
the Yankees and the Dodgers, because you're going to have

(04:44):
more eyes. It's just the reality. Then you factor in
the two Japanese players, specifically for the Dodgers, and now
the entire country of Japan is paying attention. So you
open up Asia, you have the West coast and the
East Coast, the Yankees, the most popular team in all

(05:07):
of baseball, one of the most popular teams in the
world in professional sports. And oh yeah, by the way,
you have stars obviously Shoheyo Tani, Mookie Betts, Aaron Judge,
I guess John Carlos Stanton's kind of found a little
bit of a fountain of youth after having a disappointing season,
outstanding alcs and we can kind of go down the
list of other guys. But the people that watch the

(05:29):
World Series, this is it becomes like the Super Bowl,
where it's not necessarily the football fan. A lot of
people are gonna watch the World Series now haven't watched
baseball all year long, and they wouldn't watch baseball if
it was the Guardians and the Mets. It's just the
reality of it. You need something, you need a drawing
card that will bring people to it, and then they'll

(05:49):
see that baseball is different than it used to be.
It still has the same magic as we've seen these
playoffs of sometimes outs twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven
seem way harder to get than any of the twenty
four outs that preceded it. It still has Fox does
a great job, right, Fox does a really good job.

(06:12):
I love Smoltz. I don't know if you've changed your
tune on Smoltz Chase do. I think it's like it's
like listening with a cheat code, knowing what pitch is
gonna come, Like, how do you know that? Does he
know all the signs? It's crazy? And I like I
like Rosenthal, and I like I like Verducci way more
on the sideline than I did when he was in
the booth. I think you got baseball guys and they

(06:35):
teach and then they you know, Fox always does the
close ups. I'm so in Also, you have fall baseball
in New York. It's just the world feels better that
way it does. You know, pinstripes Yankee Stadium. You can
go to your mouth, you get the youet the the
steam from your breath coming like it just feels right right.

(06:59):
Oh yeah. By the way, they're managed by two guys
that played in the greatest couple of series ever in
my lifetime or in modern baseball in the last twenty
five years. You got Aaron effing Boone that ended it
in three, and then you have Dave Roberts that started

(07:20):
to comeback in four. You have history with the Jerseys,
the Brooklyn Dodgers to La Dodgers and the matchup going
back to nineteen what was it eighty, And then you
have the history of those two. You have the superstars
of the sport. You have a wide span of fans everywhere,

(07:43):
not just domestically but also nationally. And the game is
better now than it's ever been. The rule changes have worked,
It moves quicker, it makes more sense. Athleticism has come
back to play. Stole inn bases have come back to play.
Baseball is still inherently a boring game by comparison to

(08:03):
basketball and to football because the action, but postseason baseball
masks some of that, and many of the new rules
mask it even greater. None of that matters if you
can't get people to initially watch, you can't get them
initially in the door. And then again, like look, if
you get let's say ten million people to watch game one,

(08:24):
I'm just throwing out a number there and I don't
know what they've gotten previously, but we're talking about all
time lows in World Series ratings. If a million of
those people go, you know, I kind of like it.
I'm kind of in and maybe they each buy a
ticket to see one game next year, it dramatically changes

(08:47):
a trajectory, not just buying hats and jerseys and falling
in love. And we'll have a new star. Maybe we'll
have show Hay or maybe Aaron Judge hits one in
a moon. That was the whole thing with the WNBA
and USA basketball screwing up and not having k Clark
in the Olympics, right, because I could make the case
that the Padres are actually better than the Dodgers, But

(09:08):
Padres Yankees doesn't do it like Dodgers. Yankees does it.
And Baseball did nothing wrong. It wasn't like they they
helped out the Dodgers that they called a couple more strikes,
called a couple more balls. No, the reality is the
Dodgers didn't name brand bring more eyes than the Padres do.
Even the Padres, especially based upon the health and starting
pitching at the end of the year, Probably the better

(09:30):
team didn't play better. Probably the better team. That's the
same thing as the USA basketball. They were going to
win the Olympics regardless, but not having Caitlin Clark kept
away those a million or two million or three million
more eyes that would have watched that would have gone. Damn.
Women's basketball is a lot better than I thought. So

(09:54):
I'm excited. I know, obviously, Jay stew you're gonna have
some sort of curmudgeon I think my team is going
to get swept sort of thing. But I got this
is all appointment viewing. Friday night is game one? Is
that right?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Friday night?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yep, Friday night is game one, which is perfect. You
have some college football, but not going up against the
NFL Friday night in LA. What times first pitch eight
oh eight, so five.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Oh eight local, seven to eight Central.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Five o eight local. What time would you have to
leave the station to get in to see introductions in
the national anthem? And just so you know, if there's
no traffic, if it's a weekend and there's no baseball
game there, it takes fifteen minutes to get from the

(10:51):
radio station to the Dodger Stadium parking lot. Fifteen twenty
minutes max. On a Friday, five oh eight first pitch,
it would take hour and a half hour forty five.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Do you think that sounds about right? I mean, if
it all depends, are you are you the guy? Are
you the Doug Gottlieb that wants to be the last
person on the plane and push it up to the
very very end of it? No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, I did the last time the Dodger. When was
the last World Series that they were in? Not the
Pandemic one twenty eighteen Red Sox twenty eighteen Red Sox.
I went to game one or Game two, and it
was back then we were done with radio what at three?
And first pitch was at five? And I did not

(11:47):
see first pitch even though I headed there straight away.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, that sounds right.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
It was crazy. It was crazy. How excited are you?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm fired up. I don't know if I could be
more excited, to be honest, I mean, I'm excited. It
really hit me last night. It really hit me that
we're going to be playing the Yankees in the World
Series and the game that I've always loved most. And
I do remember, this is how old I am. I
do remember the eighty one series eighty one and then

(12:24):
you see all the film footage of the seventy seven
and eighty eight series and Reggie Jackson. I'm sure that'll
be played on That'll be repeatedly played, the highlights of
Reggie Jackson. But to your first point that you made
about the ratings, here's my theory, and Dan, you tell
me what you think about this. I want to get

(12:44):
both of your perspectives on this. This whole the ratings
will be up, There'll be more eyes. I do think
that's true, Doug. But I don't know if there's going
to be new eyes. I don't know if there's going
to be gen Z eyes. I just don't know if
that generation has really caught on. I don't know if
it ever will, but I do I do think it's

(13:05):
this gen Z has parents that will watch the game.
Baseball has that thing that most sports don't. That watching
with your parents, watching with your old man is just
something that's kind of generational in that respect. And I
think maybe those eyes will go to the screen to
watch with their grandpa or with their dad or mom.

(13:27):
I think you'll get a lot of that. That's what
that'll be reflected in the ratings. I just don't know
if baseball is gonna win anybody over. I know there'll
be a lot more eyes and that that'll probably be
the reason. Does that work for you guys?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, I think it works. I I do think they'll
be young eyes. I don't know if they'll be young,
they'll be young Japanese eyes. I don't think there's any doubt.
And I think there'll be some a very small number
of younger sports fans eyes. And I also think, like look,
Yankees and Dodgers what draws people to the NFL gambling right?

(14:09):
And I think on a Friday night, I think those names.
I think that will generate the gambling market, which also
is kind of young male demo. So that's where I
think it may go a slightly counter to what you're saying,
but definitely I agree with you on there is something
about sitting down with your dad with your grandpa, with
your mom with your grandma and watching bass, cracking a beer,

(14:31):
watching baseball, and you know, talking about all the great
Yankees and Dodgers of all time.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
I don't I you know, I wish I lived in
the Midwest to be able to give the outside opinion
at this point, to get the feel of what Middle
America feels about these two behemoths. It will be a draw.
It absolutely will, way more so than what last year's
World Series was. Poor Rangers and Diamondback are just catching

(15:00):
strays over the last twenty four hours. But I wonder
if it will be a back end where okay, if
this goes six to seven, you know what game six
and seven, that's where ultimate draw is. Or if it
will start immediately from game one coming up on Friday night,
That's what I don't know. And missing Sunday in its entirety,

(15:23):
brilliant move.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Brilliant move.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Completely agree. So for people who don't know, the World
Series schedule does not include Sunday games. And that's just
it's a sacrifice of ego. It's the anti guy thing.
It's the we always used to refuse to ask for directions, right,
why are you challenging a fight to an undefeated fighter.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
There was a time, there was a time where the
NFL did not schedule on the opening weekend of the
World Series a Sunday night game. They would not schedule it.
Now we know how the NFL schedules, and sometimes what
you would get is if you had a seven game series,
there would be a Sunday night game the next week
and when there would be a game seven. But there
was a there was a period of time when the
NFL had a Sunday night game that they would not

(16:12):
schedule it at that point. Granted it also, I don't
think it was on network TV at the time. I
think it was on ESPN or TNT when they had
the package. But yeah, times are different now because if
there was a game on Sunday, it would be a
wasted opportunity. But the way that it sets up, I
think is is very good.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, I'll give you the example. We were we were
playing oklhom State our first game. It's on November fourth,
that's a week was it a week from next Monday?
So two weeks from today?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And I really wanted to do it, you know, on
the second, which is but you can't play a game
on the second because they play homecoming. It's now at
six o'clock. Like we could have done Homecoming that day
and it would have been a sellout, it would been amazing.
Or I said, okay, so let's push it back to
the fifth, but that's election day and we're not playing
election day, so we're doing the fourth. The reason I

(16:57):
didn't want to do it the fourth twofold one Monday
night foot so you're you get pushed out in chances
of doing on ESPN. They have the rights to that
gut first right at first refusal, and then you have
the Thunder playing that night, and like that takes up
a lot of the auction and people from going to
the game. So but anyway, and the point is, like

(17:18):
what you don't have to No one says you have
to play on Sundays. It's a very very smart move,
very smart move. Big Apple Sam. You can speak to
this from both because obviously now you're a Big Apple Sam,
but you used to be Iowa Sam.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Maybe one day I can return to Iowa Sam. Maybe
hopefully maybe once the World Series is over.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Maybe maybe in the meantime. Uh, what's your level of interest?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's high, definitely high.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
I mean, listen, I live in the city where one
of the teams is playing, so the you know, the
enthusiasm is pretty infectious.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And listen, I do root for the Dodgers. I do.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's hard not to that living in this town. So
my interest is high. And yeah, Yankees Dodgers, I think
they had a lot of Dodger fans if they won
this World Series, they'd feel good about, like kind of
getting another one on top of the COVID World Series.
And then when you beat the Yankees in the World
Series and it's like a normal year, that's pretty much
like it tops out there. So I think that, yeah,

(18:21):
I do think the middle of the country will pay attention,
but I think the majority of the eyes are obviously
going to be on the coast. A lot of people
in California you're gonna be watching, a lot of people
in the Northeast are gonna be watching.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm excited baseball has a chance to be back. A
seven game epic series would be amazing, and obviously you
just hopeful all the stars show out right, But that
was it was good baseball this weekend. Obviously, blowouts in
a couple of those games which took away from it.

(18:51):
But you get the Yankees, you get the Dodgers. It
starts Friday night on Fox.

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That was a fun weekend in sports, really fun, truly,
truly fun. And yeah, I like a loco a lot,

(19:30):
a lot, but I also think that it's funny how
every October we get to the same place, and probably
more so this October, just total candor with you because
I'm more into baseball because you have the bigger name teams,
you know, playing in baseball. But gosh, every single October
you're sitting there going this is amazing, This is truly amazing.

(19:54):
And we got NBA starting tomorrow, right tomorrow, The NBA
starts tomorrow. I do feel like this season has been
fairly hypeless. Am I wrong? And maybe it's because the
Olympics kind of gave us a ton of energy and

(20:14):
it kind of dragged out. I don't know, I just
I don't feel like this is a hyped up season.
Maybe that's part of what we love and part of
what we hate. Let's get to it. Let's get to
our love and hate from the weekend. What did you love? God?
I love you? And what did you hate meet these player?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hey is.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
M mm hmmmm ah love love love, hate hate hate.
Let me start with the lover boy himself, Dan Byer.
I visited Milwaukee on Monday and or as it was
it Saturday and saw that he owns an architecture from

(20:58):
there as well. I didn't know. That's your side to
side to side hustle.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yes, nice side gig. That's what I do. I just
do it in my off time. Dan, what if you're
related to that person? Have you looked into it? My
last name isn't. It's not like Smith, you know, but
it's not like super uncommon in the state of Wisconsin.
I've seen a lot of It's very German.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Bayer. Yeah, I've seen b A y s R E
y e R.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I have some b y e R minus Buyer. Yeah,
Sam pronounced it correctly.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yep. That's how it is. Yep. But I do yes.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
So what I'm not building skyscrapers and other great facilities,
I am usually taking in football on a Sunday. I
hate to be that guy, but I'm gonna be that
guy who is great to see the Seahawks get back
on track and go to Atlanta dominate the Falcons. In
for the Falcons, I she feels like, oh man, what's

(22:02):
old is new again? New people and same old Falcons.
But the Seahawks defense stepped up with Brian Byron Murphy
being available coming back from his injury. Kenneth Walker looked great,
Gino Smith was magnificent, and they may have found an
answer at right tackle with Mike Jarrell, a sixth round pick.
It was really, really a solid effort from the Seahawks

(22:25):
who were hurting after that game against the Niners when
they lost three in a row fall into the Lions
and Giants prior to that. So I really enjoyed the
Seahawks getting on track and Doug. With so many good
games this past weekend, that was one that I don't
even want to say it flew under the radar. It
just people didn't necessarily care about it. But I cared
about it because the Seahawks got back on track in
one and lead the division again at four and three.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think Kenneth Walker is like one of the more
underrated guys out there. That catch for the touchdown was amazing. Yes,
he finds a way to score like in a day
when running backs are undervalued or by teams and whatnot,
Like he seems like such a valuable aspect to that team.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Also, guy named Kenneth, Like, you don't see that a
lot Ken. Yes, Kenneth has not a ton they have.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
They have a Kenny and Kenny macintosh, who's like the
third string running back. Not a lot of backfields with
two Kens. Yeah, with one Ken, let alone two.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, Mam was a big Barbie fan. I'm not sure. Okay,
big Apple Sam, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
You almost said it?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I did?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You almost?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I did.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
That's my old that's the old Me's new to me
now I'm big Apple sham. My love of the weekend.
It's not really sports late at this time. I decided
to go nonsports because it was my birthday on Saturday. Yeah,
and I think that I turned thirty eight on Saturday,
which is I can't even believe it. But I think
when you get older, you just want your birthday or

(23:55):
your birthday weekend. It doesn't have to be like you
when you were a kid. You know, it doesn't have
to be a bunch of partties and you know, presents
and stuff. You just want to have an enjoyable day
or enjoyable weekend. You know good food. I had an
amazing breakfast burrito. I went out for Korean barbecue Friday night,
had a lot of people text me and send me,
you know, social media messages, and I just felt, yeah,

(24:16):
I felt very loved. It's a perfect thing for this segment.
Was the love of my of my weekend was just
you know, I don't usually like birthdays that much. I
don't like moving a year closer to the grave. But
this one was nice. And I had my one of
my best friends with me in town. And so I
went to the beach up to Leo Correo State Park
where that one of the scenes from Big Lebowski was shot.

(24:37):
Was actually shot in Long Beach, but they say they're
at Leo Carreo State Park. I share spreading Donnie's ashes
out there. Beautiful place, and you watched a lot of
ball and had a good time. So my love was
just a nice birthday weekend, one that I will remember.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, I'll give you my my loves for the weekend
I got. I got a bunch of that I love
this weekend. First, my gambler pick was money right. That
was Kansas State at West Virginia. I felt like that
was easy. I do wonder if West Virginia's fans had
a good time tailgating and such, because they didn't have
a good time in the game. But you know, Neil
Brown said like, hey, did you have a good time
the week before? That's what I guess really important.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Did you guys have fun?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Did you have fun?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean I had fun on my birthday weekend. I
don't know if they had fun.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
There you go. I don't think they had fun getting
house getting select by k State. But my other love,
my other love was just falling back in love with
October baseball. And we have an assistant on my staff,
Jordan McCabe. And when I got here, I got here
May fifteenth, and shortly thereafter I went to a Brewers game,
and I was like, why don't you want to come?

(25:41):
Like we're going to be like on the field first pitch,
be up in the booth with Brian Anderson. You know,
Jeff Levering does it as well, Like I know all
those guys. It's like, I hate baseball so boring. I'm like, yeah,
have you been to a baseball game?

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Like?

Speaker 8 (25:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Then we all went together or he went with a
couple of guys to one, and now now he's in.
Now we're the other night, we're watching the game, or
we're watching a football game, and he's got the baseball
game on his phone. Total convert. And what happened was,
I'm trying to think which playoff game it was that
he was watching that had a that was crazy. He

(26:14):
had a crazy ending and he was watching the whole thing.
He's like, I'm in. I get it. I love October baseball.
So rediscovering my love for October baseball is what this
weekend's about. Plus, I was I had two tickets to
the Dodger game yesterday. Jays too. Sorry about that. I
gave to my brother. I was gonna you know, we
went Saturday. We had a scrimmage. It's a secret, so

(26:37):
I can't tell you about it. Then we went to
the Little Wayne Show and he was tune. She was awesome.
He got us all set up with this room inside
Feisser Forum. Then he came by and hung out with us,
got a jersey, took some pictures. It was a great show.
I got a shout out during the show. During the concert,
do you know that awesome legit shout out? Hey, I

(26:59):
want to say what set them up boy, Doug Gottlieb,
new head coach of Green Bay pointing me out spotlight.
I was like, it was cool.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Do an Instagram shout out to you too. It is
a little video.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah you do in the job. Yeah, it was really cool.
So so uh Anyway, then I was like, I'm gonna
I was gonna try and like sneak off and go
to La watch the game and then get on a
red eye and fly back.

Speaker 9 (27:22):
We had a.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Practice day, but we got a we have actually a
big exhibition game against say a Division III team that's
really good in town. On Thursday. Felt like I could
so gave my brother the tickets and I was going
to spend the day working, watching film, getting ready for radio,
watching all the games. And a buddy of mine is like,

(27:42):
who's your best friend? And I started to kind of
list other best friends, like, no, it's me, because I
got packer tickets and we're going, it's all right, I go.
And you know how many times you go to a
game and you just sit there and go like, there's
so many other things I could be doing right now,
And like me, I'm I have ADHD. Everybody knows it,

(28:04):
and I'm constantly like look at my phone for other scores.
I was so into that game. I didn't look at
my phone for like three hours. And the fans are
so into the game, and it was just such a
great atmosphere. And like I know that NFL games are
their stadiums that have fights all the time. There's still
good atmosphere, but like, dudes, you like fighting and it's

(28:26):
not that way there. I don't know. I just had
a great sports weekend, reinvigorating my love for October baseball.
My boy lit Wayne hooking us up and give me
a shout out and then making the smart move because
otherwise I had just been exhausted today, went to the
Packer game, came back, watched all the games, and just

(28:47):
had myself a great night. So there's my love for
the weekend. Let's get to what we hated from the weekend.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, I'll tell you what I loved.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oh, I'm sorry, Jase do I forgot Dodgers baseball.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
And a gentleman named Tommy Edmund was picked up at
the trade deadline. He was a common outfielder for the Cardinals.
We picked him up for some roster depth and to
play center field. He's like a Gold Glove level centerfielder. Well,
injuries and whatnot in circumstances made him our starting shortstop

(29:21):
for yesterday's game, and he batted cleanup. He had a
two run double, He had a two run home run.
Tommy Edmund won the NLCS MVP, and I really couldn't
be happier for him. He seems like a really good kid.
I just would have never told you that on the
game clinching game to go to the World Series, Tommy

(29:44):
Edmund would be our cleanup hitter and delivering. And a
special shout out to Chris Taylor. Chris Taylor has had
a nightmare season. He forgot how to hit this past season,
and he had a great game yesterday in the game
quenching game. He's been there a long time, so I
like when guys that have paid their dues and been there,

(30:06):
been with the team have a shining moment in the
game that matters. So Chris Taylor, I love you, I
love the Dodgers, and I can't wait till Friday night.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
All right, let's can't tell what we hated from the weekend. Well,
jac you know I come to you first because you
are a resident hater. Would Jay.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know there's like a there's I have a massive
disartation about the Deshaun Williams. I mean, sorry, Deshaun Watson
booze and whatnot. But I'm not going to do that.
In fact, I'm gonna shlve it and we'll talk about
it next after the break. This is what I can't
stand about what Patrick Mahomes does on the sidelines. So yesterday,

(30:53):
if you're watching, the highlight of the game was like
a thirty to five yard scramble run by Patrick Mahomes.
And we've seen this tactic before. So I'm gonna preface
this by saying this is something that he has, uh start,
it's it's a trend, it's not a one off. So
what he does is he goes and he like he

(31:15):
tippy toes tap dances towards the line and then he
acts like he's going out of bounds and then he
stays in bounds. And to me, I think that's complete
bs because the defenders can't light him up near the
sidewines or they'll they'll get they'll get penalized. And Patrick Mahomes,
to me, takes advantage of that assumption.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
So the defender that does light him up, is going
to get penalized, correct, But Patrick Mahomes might get very
seriously hurt on that play, and he will have nobody
to blame but himself. Because right now, Dan.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is like the first one he's done that's actually
really good in about sports. But I'm sure, I mean,
that's really really good and dead to nuts, accurate.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Dead to nuts. Who was it? Was it Kenny Pickett
in college? Fake?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes? Fake? Fake? The slide?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
You just can't. You can't take advantage of the rules
that way. He's exploiting it.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well you can. But Schwartz Karmel will come back. Good luck,
good luck, yeah, buyer.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
So this kind of went under the radar, but I
addressed it on the show that I do on Sundays
with Kerrie Rhodes. One of the biggest stories that we
had talked about this summer was Saquon Barkley going from
the Giants to the Eagles because the Giants not wanting
to resign him. And sure there were boos towards Sakuon
Barkley where it's not necessarily his fault, but I am

(32:47):
going to blame someone, and I'm gonna blame Nick Siriani
because This was the day that you allow Saquon Barkley
to not only have his one hundred and seventy six
yards rushing, but you also allow him to get into
the end zone not once, but twice in three times.
And instead, I know it's a successful play. They did
two brotherly shoves that allowed Jalen Hurts to score from

(33:09):
the one yard line. Listen, the Giants weren't scoring at all.
Daniel Jones had ninety nine yards passing. So if you
can hand the ball off to Sakuon Barkley four different
times at the one yard line and he doesn't get in,
tough beans, it's not gonna hurt you. But they have
Saquon Barkley go to New York and beat the Giants
and have the possibility of scoring three times. That's what

(33:32):
you do. Mike Dick is still criticized to this day
for not giving Walter Baiton the football in Super Bowl twenty.
Here was an opportunity for Sirianni to really get a
feel of everything, and instead they just ran the play
they always run. Still scored. Ego's gonna win, But I
wish Sakuon Barkley would have had a hat trick of
touchdowns in that game against the Giants.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Big gamble Sam.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
So I had another hate lined up, but Jason implored
me to go into this one because it was something
I noticed over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It bugged me.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
On Sunday, we had, you know, a lot of sports
viewing options, and so I wanted to watch the being
Big Apple Sam. I wanted to watch the Jets taking
on the Steelers, and I wanted to watch the Mets
try to survive and fight it out for one more
game against the Dodgers. Ultimately, all of New York's teams,
you know, failed, and you know I drowned my sorrows

(34:26):
with tears and beers, no kidding. But when I went
onto my YouTube TV, which I love YouTube TV, I
noticed that, you know, in the multiview options, I couldn't
only watch the Jets taking on the Steelers and the
Mets taking on the Dodgers. They were tacking on the Liberty.
Maybe it was a New York thing. They were tacking

(34:47):
on the liberty, taking on the Links. The deciding game
with the WNBA Finals, they were forcing me to watch it, which, hey,
I like the WNBA. Now I love Caitlin Clark, and
I have taken interest in the league, but I just
wanted to watch the football and the baseball. I did
not want to watch the WNBA. And in all my options,
the New York Liberty were there. I could not only

(35:07):
get baseball and football. And then when I went to
try to build my own combo of multiview, I had
to start it with the Liberty game. There was no
way of just picking baseball or football and then adding
the other. So I'm just like, is this some kind
of conspiracy to like draw interest or to add eyeballs
or add viewing to the final game of the WNBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't know. It's a little curious why.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Like they're just like, okay, if we just force these
people in multiview to watch the WNBA game, we can
say that the ratings were higher because it technically was on.
And I'm like, I just listen. I support the WNBA.
Love Caitlin Clark, which you did in the league.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
You actually are WNBA lead analysts.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Thank you a title I will gladly embrace. But that
night I just wanted to watch the Sunday night football
game and the NLCS, and they were like, force feed
me the WNBA Finals game.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
And I'm like, what the heck? So I that was helping.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I hate the fact that I cannot I cannot customize
my YouTube TV YouTube TV multiview to the way exactly
the way I want it. Yet I did not want
to have that WNBA game on, but I was forced
fed it. So I don't know. I think it's a
conspiracy to draw to drive up viewership. That's just what
I think.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I hate Matt Holiday. I mean, we're very very good friends,
but I hate him because I'm watching Friday night like
a loan in my TV room and Oklahoma State is
quietly playing pretty well against BYU, and they scored with
how much time was left. They went on like a

(36:46):
nine minute drive, like a nine minute drive, and I
think they left BYU with a minute thirteen to go
and they're up four, so they got they got to
score a touchdown, and he scrambled on third down or
maybe it was four it down, he scrambled awesome run.
And you know it's one of those things to where
there's just no awareness from oklahom States deep and they're

(37:07):
like in man, and he's like running right past their guy,
like hey, did somebody just run my past? And like
you could, you could see it coming. But I hate
Matt Holiday because the second the touchdown was scored, We've
been texting back forth. It was like, what a drive.
That's like drive of the year. All they need is
to stop. Let's go really happy for this group. I'm

(37:29):
like the cheesiest, most supportive fan ever because obviously now
on this side, but I always have I've always had
been just because like I'm reasonable. I remember where Oakland
State football used to really be bad, and this year
they're just kind of disappointing. And Alli Gordon was having
a great game, playing through being banged up, and he's like,
defense is gonna give up a touchdown? And I'm like,

(37:49):
where is your where's your belief? He's like, I watch
every game, I go to practice like it's gonna happen.
And then it was like Keystone cops at the end
of the game tackling each other and they score a
touchdown with twelve seconds to go. So I hate you, Matt,
because you were right. That's our I love it hate
For the weekend.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
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Speaker 1 (38:17):
What Up, It's Doug Ally show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm
still like, such a good football weekend, such a good one.
Chiefs going to beat the Niners in Santa Clara. Here's
Andy Reed talking about his team's play.

Speaker 10 (38:34):
We got plenty of room to improve on things. Eventually
guys will start coming back. At the thing I appreciate
the most are guys stepping up and then the other
guys trusting them. This step up, so I'm believing in them,
and then the coach is just coaching.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Here's Pat Mahomes talking about his own play, which didn't
throw a touchdown pass a couple interceptions.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
Af through the pick. I don't know if I'll start
up from that. At froz Fardo got through my second
pick and kind of heard our defense there situation. So
we continue to just make strides in the right direction,
but at the same time, we make those these mistakes,
especially me, and so we're winning football games, which is awesome.
We're going to try to continue to get better. He
was not trying to like lower my shoulder. I was
trying to like absorb the hit kind of. I was
gonna be right on the end of right there. In
the end zone and that Dad bought man just had

(39:17):
enough weight on me where he went down.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's that's pretty funny. That's actually really I had not
heard that clip. Brock Pertty had a miserable Game three pick.
Here's what he had to say about those interceptions.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
I think I just I got to play better, for sure,
just with my throws some decisions, and that's that's pretty simple.
I obviously got to watch the film and stuff, but
my instant reaction has got to play better. The second
interception was on me again. Ronnie did his job. I
thought he just got pemmed up. I didn't know where
he was going to come out on his route, so
I just started putting it on him and then he
ended up breaking out pretty pretty good.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
By the way. Brandon Ayuk appears appears to be lost
for the year. But that the thing about the Chiefs
is they just find ways to win games. That's really,
They just find ways to win games. You know, Pat
mahomes sots for one fifty four two interceptions, no touchdowns,
five point seven yards per completion, and they find ways

(40:12):
to win games. So impressive, and you know, a fairly
catastrophic injury to the Niners. One of the most talented players.
And here we are again with the Niners going. You know,
I like brock Purty, but is it good enough? All
Right's Doug Gotlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Here on behalf

(40:33):
of Kingsford Charcoal is he was an all time great
Texas Longhorn. Of course, he was an all pro with
the Kansasity Chiefs ses Jamal Charles, he joins us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, Jamal, how
are you?

Speaker 9 (40:46):
I'm good? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Great? Man? All right, let's start with the Horns. What
happened Saturday?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Oh man, it's just that George was better team than us,
and uh, the guys was the moment. You know what
I'm saying, wasn't ready. They wasn't ready for the moment.
And everybody know that.

Speaker 9 (41:08):
I can't sure if Colder came here, came here to say,
but you know, we just had to come out and
play with like we really want to be there.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
And you know, there are always going to be people
that are going to blame the officials. Obviously some super
questionable officiating the game. How much did that play a
factor in the final final outcome?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I think if you played well. I feel like that
the referees don't have nothing to do with the game.
Like you can't blame it on the referees.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You know, Texas obviously last year got to the playoffs.
What is it like to feel like Texas is back
among the nations elite?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean that's awesome, that's a good Uh, that's good
for the state of Texas to definitely.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Uh to see our horns because everybody always like the
big cowboy team.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
But being from uh Texas, Uh take this demand, say
to take it and go on to University of Texas.
Main that's the nap of Texas, like right there on top,
and you just a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
You can have a lot of toughs around that stuff
because you don't want to be in him, you know.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, listen, and we all know about the colt.
We don't we don't talk about the colt. There's there's
this let's let's get to the chiefs. Okay. Obviously you're
a part of it for a long time, and you
guys used to run those roadblocks in the playoffs. Pat
Mahomes and this group has broken through. But I thought
like I thought yesterday was a perfect example of how

(42:32):
this team just figures out a way to win, right,
Like he throws a couple of picks. They're not really
moving it offensively through the air, but they just find
a way. How they How are they doing it right?
They don't have star wide receivers, they keep running through
running backs, they bring Kareem Hunt back, and yet they
still keep winning. How are they doing this? Jamal?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
People understand, yeah, Pat can be one of the massive piece,
but everybody understand, you gotta have a good coach too.
You got to have a coach like coach Andy Reed.
Like everybody understand, like coach Injury, and they got to
basically two head coach with a three head coach with
a special team in defense. Uh bag, Like people don't understand,

(43:11):
like how hard to get a coaching airing together and
to basically to to to keep their crew together and
have these players play for your plate for them like people.

Speaker 9 (43:23):
Play for coach Injury. It is not like, uh, he
just uh, he's just a regular coach. He's a great coach.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Okay, you're you're you're joining us on behalf of kings
for Charcoals. So let's let's talk some barbecue, right because
you live in Texas and in Kansas City, right, so
I'm not gonna put on you put it on you
with like where's the better barbecue capital? But when you're
gonna grill, what do you do? And remember, grilling is
not barbecuing. And like if you you put some kings
for charcoal down and you grill a burger, like, that's grilling.

(43:53):
That's not barbecuing.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Are you and I in agreement there?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, that's grilling right?

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yes? Yes? So if you're are you are your ribs guy,
a brisket guy, a pulled pork guy. What's what's your
jam in the barbecue world?

Speaker 9 (44:08):
I like.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Wings.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
I'm a chicken guy, and uh, I like I like
going like different all theculated guy.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
And I'm also at lamb chopping.

Speaker 9 (44:19):
Also a little grill oxtail.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
On there too as well, a little ox little oxtail
really really good for you, healthy for you. Uh, dry
rub you put sauce on your stuff? What do you
do while you're grilling? What do you do?

Speaker 9 (44:29):
I'm a flavor guy.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I like sweet soft put I definitely put soft on mines.

Speaker 9 (44:34):
I gotta have. I gotta have rubs on it, soft
on it everything.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Wait, so you put rubs and sauce afterwards.

Speaker 9 (44:41):
I'm a sweet guy.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Okay, like I'm sweet sweet sauce. I feel you. I
feel you sweet. I like dry rubs. I like low
and slow, and I like dry rubs. I'm a I'm
a dry rub guy. That's what. It doesn't matter. If
I'll smoke a chicken, I'll smoke some ribs, I'll smoke
some brisket, I'll smoke some pull pork. I like low

(45:03):
and slow, a ton of rub on it. I'm more
salty than sweet, although occasionally I'll put a little sweet
barbecue where then you can mix it to you can
dip the too. I like more dipping than I don't
like to lather it on.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I don't like you don't really stuff I'm going.

Speaker 9 (45:16):
I like it on it.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
But they had I have an opportunity to go down
there and barbecue with them with the ou week at
the safe Ara, and man, it was awesome. Man able
to just be around smelling barbecue and the smell of
the king for chucko and and grilling and passing the
food out, and it was a it was an awesome
time just just seeing the fans and they small and

(45:37):
nate smelling and it's something about when you smell that
that smokes, that smokes mail.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh, it's it's amazing. Like you wake up to that
smoke smell. You're like, Okay, there's something good to eat
and there's football coming efforts.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Look, you were also a track star, and I know
with Kingsford you're doing work with the Special Olympics right
as an ambassador. Tell me some more about that work.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, I'm an ambassador, so I do a lot for
the for Special Olympics and was able to travel the
world with them and I've been to Abi Dabby, I've
been to Germany with him a couple of years.

Speaker 9 (46:08):
We're going to go to to Australia. But now cap
Ford we're just doing something different and I'm glad I
had the opportunity to just able to get the grilling
and smoking because they ain't nothing like having tailgate. So
that's all I can do right now, so to play football,
But I can tailgate, I tell.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You, man, joined the rest of us, we're just tailgating
the little Kingsford on a Saturday or Sunday or even
of course some Monday Jamal is always good to catch
up with you. Love watching you play. Great to talk
to you as well. Thanks for our guests.

Speaker 9 (46:37):
All right, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
It's Jamal Charles joining us here on the Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Perfect timing. We have breaking news.
Here's Dan Byer, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
One of the injuries that occurred yesterday in the NFL
happened in the Nation's capital with Jayden Daniels, with the
Washington Commanders head coach Dan Quinn saying that Daniels is
now considered week to week with a rib injury not
expected to be super serious. However, they did say that
they want to have caution with this injury. His status
for their Week eight game against the Bears right now

(47:12):
up in the air. So Jade Daniels, who was injured
early in that game against the Panthers, considered week to
week according to the head coach Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
H okay, what a start he's had to his career.
And I got a chance to see obviously Texans versus
Packers yesterday. Byer, when you're working in studio, how much tension?
Which game did you have? Were you're paying most attention to.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
So yeah, so our show doesn't go on into the
late windows, so we have Obviously, Chiefs Niners was the
big game yesterday. I thought the biggest game actually including
in that late window yesterday was Lions Vikings. But I
had Packers Texans ranked third entering the day in the
importance and intrigue of that matchup. But yeah, quite the game.

(47:59):
I mean, the Packers said CJ. Stroud just befuddled throughout
and practically almost gave the game away. I will give
the Texans credit for getting Jill Mixon going, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
It was great. One hundred and ten yards. Why would
you jump into the stands to do the Lambeau leap
on the road. There was one Texan fan I just
and like somebody got thrown out for dumping a beer
on him. But then he snuck back and then they
had him back in it. It was almost like they
took him outside and like, don't do that again, and
then he came back in. He was after McManus kicked
the field goal. Then McManus went and jumped in the stand.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Yeah, it happens more often than you would think. I
think there was a game earlier this year where someone
jumped in the stands where there were other there were
fans of that team getting those front row But we've
seen it before. Remember Aaron Jones was talking about like
his return. Maybe that's who it was in jumping in.
But it's not foreign that it's happened. It's actually, I think,

(48:51):
kind of neat. I don't think it's disrespectful to the Packers.
I think it's more of, Hey, I want to be
a part of this.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's such a cool thing. I wish I
was a part of it. Hey, I'm gonna try it myself.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Yeah, it's kind of like and to make the Wisconsin connection.
When they do jump around at the Wisconsin Games, you
see the other sideline jumping up and down having a
good time as well. So that's kind of how I
look at it. Yeah, jumping into the stands.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Jump around, jump up, jump up and down, jump jump jump.
It was a really good game, and it's interesting, right
c J. Stroud wasn't particularly good and he he was
kind of seeing ghosts. They put some pressure on him,
which the Packers had struggled with earlier in the year.
But and as good as Jordan Love made some unbelievable throws.
He was kind of far of like yesterday. I mean

(49:36):
it was like one of those like, uh yeah, leading
the league in touchdowns, leading the league interceptions two and
then their special teams play on punts was just it
was almost comical. Right, they fumbled one when the punt
returners should have caught it, and then he didn't for
whatever reason. Then the next one, he he ran literally

(49:58):
right into where the defense was. Then they switched, then
they put reed back there and uh uh, he wasn't
particularly good. He caught one it like the four yard line,
and it actually the momentum took him in the end zone,
so then he got tackled at like the five where
and it was a little bit windy. It was a
really nice day, Like seventy eight degrees is crazy in

(50:19):
the middle of October. But I don't know, like I
kind of thought it was punt return one on one,
like put your heels on the ten and if it
goes over your head, you let it go, right, isn't.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
That Yeah, usually how it went usually, I

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Thought, So that was me
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