September 6, 2017 • 43 mins
Doug tells you why Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott's 6 game suspension being upheld has no effect on Roger Goodell's status as Commissioner of the NFL. Doug and Dan Beyer have a spirited discussion regarding Seahawks DE Michael Bennett and how he was treated by the Las Vegas Police Department. Also, Doug talks to Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network about some of the top prospects in college football and how they looked in the 1st week of college football.
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uh Daniel, Jeremiah down Jeremiah who's at Moved the Sticks.
Of course you see him on the NFL network. He
will join us in join us in fifteen minutes and
we'll discuss Rosen Donald and the litany of college quarterbacks,
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how they played in Week one. What we can expect
NFL people to say when they actually watched the tape
and they don't get caught up in Rosen's comeback with
the fact that USC didn't destroy Western Michigan from the
opening kickoff. That to come, But let's get to the
news of the day. News of the day is that
Ezekiel Elliott, though the suspension was upheld yesterday because they've
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gone to court. He'll get a temporary injunction and he'll
be able to play this Sunday. The most important thing
for NFL front office people and for yackers like myself
is let me just kind of get out ahead of
it going to be record ratings this weekend in the NFL. Again,
I'm not huge in the prediction game. I do give
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you picks. I'm gonna talk about the dangers actually of
gambling as one of my close friends in the business,
Um is facing charges, federal charges, and it all comes
kind of back to Gamelin and get to that later
in the show. But look, I'm not huge into predictions,
but I will tell you that the NFL is a
freight train out of control in terms of popularity. Many
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of you, including my friends, had a fantasy football draft
in the last week's we had when yesterday, I got
one today as well. Tom Brady is playing and on
opening Night and against the Kansas City Chiefs, a team
that you go back a couple of years ago, beat
them Monday and Monday Night football the year they turned
around and won the Super Bowl. Great game on a
Thursday night. Plus you got Brady Goodelli be in attendance
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and all the things that worked against them last year,
the election, not having Brady, injury to Romo, some of
the big name teams missing their big stars at the
start of the year, and games that were supposed to
be good, we're not good. In addition to at least
a small portion of people going like between the election
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and the protest, no Peyton Manning he was retired. It
was just a lot like why do I watch the
Denver Broncos. Now you have, uh, the Raiders, who are
a signature team. They'll play primetime games and they're good,
and they have a player that you want to watch.
The Raiders will bring people in. The Steelers a team
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that have a huge following nationally and they're loaded for
Bear Big Ben Antonio Brown who joined US yesterday, Martevis Bryant,
the most mispronounced name in the NFL this season is
back office suspension. And they're a team that plays a
fun style. But more than anything, the Marquee games will
be just that and they will have the Marquee players.
And you don't have an election, you don't have the
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nonsense of what took place last year and nagn to
the water ball and from the Thursday night game with
the Pats to the Sunday afternoon game, which is the
Seattle Seahawks fully loaded taking on the Green Bay Packers
fully loaded on Fox. And then NBC gets g Men
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with Odell Beckham Jr. In the conversation the most popular
player in all of sports in America with the Cowboys
with no quarterback controversy and Ezekiel It will play the
NFL wins kids, But you know who loses all of
us because what's going to happen over the next couple
of weeks. It's already happened. Is this is the lie?
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And look, we all tell lies, right, like we all
say things that will happen in the future that aren't
going to happen in the future. You've been drunk before,
and if you haven't, let me just kind of explain.
At first, you feel really really good, and then you
feel really really bad once you've gone over your limit. Right,
Like my wife is honestly like a one and a
half drink, Like she gets to two or above two drinks,
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her world starts spinning and she feels awful and she,
unlike the rest of it, she can't sleep it off.
She goes to sleep, she gets the spins, she doesn't
go to sleep. Now she's tired the next day plus hungover.
Everybody has that limit. And once you get even past
that limit, now you start to get sick, and you're
you're praying to the porcelain God, and what are you
saying to yourself? I'm never gonna drink again. God, dear God,
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I'm never gonna drink again. I promise, Just make me
make it so that they don't feel bad tomorrow. Yes,
I gotta stop throwing up. It's just right. We've all
made that lie. We all made that lie. You know,
you've even made the lion sports. Ask yourself after the
Pacciale Mayweather fight, did you walk away going I'm never
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buying another Floyd Mayweather fight ever? And then Mayweather is
fighting a non boxer, a guy who's never fought a
day in his life in a boxing ring, and you're like, God,
gotta watch this thing. Okay, last time, last, last time?
All right, everybody, Yet you get your boys over your
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like last time on three two three, last time. I mean,
even the even leagues lie to themselves, like the NBA
is like, oh, we gotta change this one and done
rule did anybody realize they actually have had two negotiations,
two CBA negotiations, and both they've decided to not even
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broach the one and done rule. Like we'll get to
it when we get to it. So here's the lie
that you're you're told by people the next time around,
Roger Goodell is gonna lose the power that the Commissioner's
office has had since because he has autonomous power. And
this is unfair, and it probably is unfair by the way.
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I just hate to be this guy. But um, in
anybody else's job, right if the NFL is a job,
anybody else's job, if they suspend you, right you appealed,
Like who do you think? Here's it? Like? Who do
you think reconsiders how long they suspend you, or if
they fire you, or if they hold you out of work?
Do you think the same boss? But regardless of which,
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we are told time and again by radio hosts, by
former players, by any sort of hanjak who has a
microphone in front of him, Roger Goodell has too much
power in the next time the CBA comes around, even
the head of the NFL p a like this is
just ridiculous. Do you know why they don't care because
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once you get to actual negotiations, players are sitting there
going like, wait, Han, there's fifty hundred and ninety active
players any week in the NFL. That's the math I
did fifty three times thirty two. Okay, plus you have
practice squad guys. So he got approximately six guys. There's
like fifteen or twenty that get in legit trouble. Fifteen
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or twenty that get in legit trouble. So when you're
talking about the bottom one percent, they don't care. This
doesn't affect me. People vote for and decide on the
future of things, and the same with like what affects
me in the future. And if the NFL players aren't
going to be worried about his autonomous rule because they
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don't allegedly strike a woman, they just don't. They don't
snort cocaine, they don't take steroids, they don't not stop
smoking weed like, um, who was it from the Browns
the wide receiver got hadn't played so like Josh Gordon right,
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like ad played so long and forgot like stop smoking weed.
Like it's actually a really simple policy. Everybody gets tested
in the off season, and once you get tested if
you pass that test, they don't test you for the
rest of the year. It's not a drug test, it's
an intelligence test. And if you failed it, most guys
really like, what a dummy. That's what they think, and
so they don't worry about the dummies, much like they
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actually don't worry about the top one per cent of
earner's either. What are they worried about? I guarantee next
time around the lie that you've been told. First thing
we're gonna take care of is Roger Goodell? Like all right,
you want Goodell to give away some of his power? Sure?
What are you giving back? You given back some guaranteed money?
Like no, you can back some years on contracts. You
can away the split of the football revenue our football
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revenue yar footbolly Like no, Like okay, so we're gonna
give up something we already have vent sin seen for nothing,
Like that's not the way it works, Like okay, well
what else do you want? Like, well, we want more
players on active rosters, more than fifty three there, Like okay,
sure you can have that. What do you want to
give up? It's they called a negotiation, and in the
importance of negotiation, guaranteed money, post career benefits, number of
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players who are on an active roster, number of games,
preseason games, number of contact. All of these other things
are the Commissioner's office pales in comparison. Nobody. Guys don't
care because they don't run a foul with the law.
We just don't. They're like, well, that didn't affect me
because I don't beat my wife. You know, I don't
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bet my girlfriend. I don't smoke weed, or if I
do smoke weed, I do so after I take the
first drug test in the off season, so they're not
gonna test me. But I don't drink and drive and
take uber. That's how people, most people think. That's definitely
how the rank and file. So the one thing you
should not do or not get into the rabbit hole,
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the the vortex, you know, vortex just kind of pulls
you and you're like, all right, dare get out whoa
whoa you the conversation you cannot get into And I
don't even think you really cares. Roger Delmont, he's the worst,
and he's just so like now he's actually not He's
kind of made them a ton of money. He's developed
new revenue streams. He's moved three teams, which will make
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all the rest of the owners over two billion dollars
in relocation fees two billion dollars in relocation fees, settle
the concussion lawsuit established Thursday Night Football, then split up
Thursday Night Football from just CBS to NBC, all the
while giving those games to the NFL network so that
the league owned network can continue to make millions and
millions and millions of dollars. They got labor piece until
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about two thousand twenty one, Like this deal is, this
deal is humming financially, and guys get sidetracked and go
like I'm never gonna drink again. And then next Frida
Night like Miller time. Huh, it's bureau'clock. I thought you
said last weekend, Like, dude, stop it. I was hungover.
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I thought you said, you're never gonna by another Mayweather
fight after Pak. Yeah. Yeah, but it's McGregor. It's McGregor,
and so mark my words. Two tho. If I'm still
working in this industry, they'll get to the c B
A and people are like, oh, they're gonna go after
Goodell's power. No, No, I don't care because most guys
in that locker room. Are just guys in that locker room, Like, Hey,
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here's the thought. Don't beat your girlfriend or don't get
don't be in such a psychotic relationship to where anybody
could think that you might be your girl. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show
weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in,
Daniel Jeremiah, who you will? You will hear on this
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show weekly on The Doug Gotlip Show, and of course
you can. He's got a podcast. Uh. He also is
on the NFL networking is kind enough to join us
here on Fox Sports Radio DJ. Let's start with with
college football, and everyone's talking about the college quarterback prospects.
He had Sam darn who, by some people's estimation, it
was a home home day at the coliseum as they
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didn't polish off they didn't polish off Western Michigan. But
he's got new wide receivers, he's got new running backs,
new tight ends, had some drops and then of course
U c l a all anybody wants to talk about
his rosen in the fourth quarter, Let's start with Donald,
you've seen him on tape. How do you look he
played well, Doug. I mean that was it was kind
of interesting that all had talked was that he just
didn't have a good game and was off, and then
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when you study it, you see a handful of drops. Um.
I still saw the same anticipation, accuracy, touch, poise, all
that stuff was there. You know, I thought he actually
played really well. How how how how much concerned you
have for the throwing motion. I mean, that's something that
you're gonna have to work through. But I mean, I
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think we've talked about it before that if you have
a slow looping motion, you've got no chance. If you've
got an explosive motion that's a little bit long and
you and you have some velocity, you can make up for.
So it's not a it's not a deal breaker for me,
but there are teams that's gonna bother all right, then
let's go to to Josh Rosen. He was not protected
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in the first half. How much of that can Can
you put any of that on him? Or is he
simply guy's not blocking? Well? I mean a couple of
things that he needs to speed up his clock a
little bit, and one of the one of the areas
when you're comparing him with Donald, you give Donald the
edge is just being able to avoid and alluded inside
the pocket. And that's something like you don't have to
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do the most mobile ground in the world. And Josh
and Rosen is a good athlete, but he's got to
get a little bit better at side step and maneuver
inside the pockets to some of the hits he's taken out.
I mean he he makes a big time throws and
he is a beautiful passer. I mean the feet are great,
the release is beautiful. Um, but self preservation, man, he's
he's gotta he's he's gotta be a little bit better
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than that department. He's not gonna make it through the year,
all right. But was was he as good as the numbers?
And as the twenty eight unanswered point in the fourth quarter?
Was he as good as those numbers would lead you
to believe? I don't know that I would say he
was as good as the numbers you would believe me. Look,
it's an incredible comeback and he made some some huge throws.
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But even when you kind of look at that last drive,
just some of the management stuff when you go back
and watch it. You see take a delay a game.
There were several plays where they didn't get everybody set.
He got called on at once, uh that there's a
penalty there. And then you have, you know, into the
chist of a defensive linement that popped up in the
air and could have been could have been picked off.
So it wasn't a perfect It wasn't perfect in execution.
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But man, he makes some throws that are just there
there while throws he's got a ton of ability. No,
he he does. But see, I this is what I
pointed out both Monday and Tuesday Dana Jeremiah joining us is. Look,
I get that he's only a college quarterback, so managing
a game is not something he's going to be as
refined in as a pro is. On the other hand,
he's in his third year as a starter. He's playing
at home, so it's not like crowd noises a factor
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and like we're sold what we've been sold on Rosen
is Hey, maybe he doesn't have the hose that some
of these other gid that the Josh Allen from Wyoming has,
but parents are ivally educated. He's super bright. Like those
are the type of things when you get to delay
a game because of the quarterback, when you get a
false start because of the quarterback. Uh, those are football,
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i Q. Things that we thought he would have mastered
with his time spent in college football. And that's where
it's more surprising than just any other college quarterback. Is
that fair? No, Yeah, that's fair. Look, that's your job
as a quarterback is to manage the game. I always
thing is if you like to see him slow down,
maybe a little bit there. But the other side of it,
it's a little bit understandable. That was such a that
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was such a whirlwind. I mean, the people they're going
to hunter miles an hour and he actually just needed
to kind of slow down a little bit and he
didn't quite do that, but hey, I mean the game,
No he did. Dan Daniel Jeremiah joining us Mason Rudolphs
the guy that people are also talking about in that
first round along with with josh al Uh. He put
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up ridiculous numbers last year. He had three touchdowns, no
interstptions completed of his passes in the first game of season,
granted against Tulsa. Will see him Friday night. Um, Is
he anywhere in the vicinity of the top three quarterbacks.
I have some separation there. Um, you know, I think
he's kind of in that next tier. But look, we've
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seen these the second tier of quarterbacks go in the
first round all the time. You know, you say, okay,
the little separation this this group of two or three
guys in this next group. But we've seen that second
wave of quarterbacks go. And I think Luke Falk and him,
I'm anxious to kind of study them throughout the year
and see how that sorts out. I think those two
guys are battling for that fourth spot. Luke Falk of
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course at Washington State and he pitched nearly a perfect
game going back to their their win on Saturday. Daniel
Jeremiah at Moved the Sticks is the Twitter handle. Also,
you can followhim on Instagram as he puts out video
of so many plus. All right, let's get to the
let's get to the big boys, let's get to the
National Football League. Um, all right, you take away for
another year, you take away Alex Smith's running back, and
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you put some pressure on Alex Smith because Pat Mahomes
has been lighting the up second, third, and four stringers
in the preseason. Everybody knows that Mahomes has armed town.
Even if he's not gonna set the play this year,
that does put some pressure on Alex Smith. We'll see
them on Thursday Night against the Patriots. What are your
thoughts on the chief everybody's talking about the Patriots. What
are your thoughts in the Chiefs and Alex Smith coming
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into the season. Well, I look, I think going there
for training camp, they're they're equally excited about Mahomes, but
they're also in no hurry to get him out there.
And sometimes people give lip service that like when Bordles.
Remember when Bordles was behind Handy when he first came
in and they said they're a red shirt for the
whole year. But you kind of got to say that
ain't gonna happen. I do believe that they will rest
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Mahomes throughout the year, let him sitting learned. I don't
think he's ready to play. The wild plays are are spectacular,
but just the down and down out managing the team.
I think he's got a long way to go. And
I think this Chief's team were division on the ANC West,
but I mean they've got a chance to be right
there at the very top that they got a pass
rush um. They've got an efficient, if not super explosive offense.
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You didn't see as much of Tyreek Hill as I
thought we would in the preseason, but we'll see him
kind of unleashed on the Patriots ament. Right. What about
the Patriots? How how how devastating is the blow losing
their top wide receiver from last season. Well, I mean,
i I've never I'll never doubt that group. I mean,
they the best tight end, the most dominating weapon in
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the NFL in the passing game. You know, sit it
out at the end of last year, and they went
on and won the Super Bowl and didn't really have
much trouble I mean throughout the year. So they find
a way to pug holes. And I can't wait to
see how they used Brandon Cooks in this thing. I
think they're gonna be a little bit more vertical than
they've been in the past because they've got several guys
they can get down the field. Now, Danda Jeremiah joining
us in the Doug Gotlip Show at least discussed team
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with a ton of talent. They underachieved last year in
Vantes Perfect suspended uh to start this season is the
Cincinnati Bengals. Of course they get Tyler Eiffer. We think
he'll be back to take on the Ravens, their favorite
at home. Still got a j. Green Hill's gonna start
at running back. They got three really talented, really good
running backs. What do you make of the Bengals? A
team that look, you got a coach on the hot seat,
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but they've made the playoffs consistently up until last year
where they where they where they fell flat. Can can
the Bengals get back atop their division? I think they can.
I think when you look at them on paper, in
almost every single position group they are. They are in
great shape, save pretty offensive line, and I think in
one over the radar we put the Rams in what
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they've gotten Andrew Whitworth, But we haven't talked much about
what Cincinnati lost and Andrew Whitworth. So that, to me
is the one question market for that team in a
division that's that's got a pretty good group of front
seven they're gonna face, but man, their defensive front is loaded. Um,
you look at the running backs, I think Joe Mixon.
Look fantasy football, whether you play or you don't play it,
I've been two leagues. Doug and I took him so early.
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I mean, he's just such a talent. I know they
have the other backs, but I'd be shocked if he
doesn't emerge early in the season. As the guy you
mentioned Rams you called the preseason games, I called this thing.
This goes back a week and a half ago, dj
I went on the radio. Is like, at this point
in time, the Rams are a three point dog, Andrew
Luck is not playing, and the Colts are terrible, like
in the three or four worst teams in the NFL
without him, plus they have massive injuries. Um, but but
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give me your sense of what you've seen from Jared
Golf and what your expectations are of him in this offense,
with more talent around him and in a completely different
coaching style. I think he's in a great situation. Uh,
it's gonna be up to him. I don't know if
last year the success, no matter what he could have done,
I don't know if they would have been able to
be successful, just in terms of the lack of protection
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he had, the lack of playmakers around him, and really,
to be quite honest, not not a great play caller.
I think they're They're upgraded in all three areas. I
think you're seeing more confidence from him, and I'm looking
forward to watching what they do in the regular season.
They didn't do much of it in the preseason, but
I wouldn't be shocked if if coach McVeigh you saw
a lot of pace with him, a lot of tempo,
and that's something that that your got very comfortable with
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from his time at college. UM, I think it would
make a lot of sense for them to try and
go fast. The Air and Donald thing is interesting, you know,
I nationally. I don't know how big a story it is. UM.
They want to help him renegotiate his contract, but he's
got two years left, plus he'd he'd be under club
control after those two years, so so they hold all
the cards. The only thing he can do is not
collect checks and not show up. How long does this
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thing last? I don't know. I mean, there's the uh,
there's a certain date you gotta reach. I can't remember
what it is. What is it like eight weeks before
you don't get credit for the season. So at some
point in time he's going to be in there. You know. Look,
it's it's what tricky situation. You can make a cases
the best defensive linemen all football. You can make it
pretty easily. But the means can make a case. And
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you've got two years left on your deal. If we're
gonna if we're gonna do this thing early, they got
to get at least a tiny bit of a discount.
So you can kind of see how both sides a
dig in Seahawks Packers. Um, Look, the Packers were terrible
in their back end last year. They've gone out, They've
they've added free agents. Uh, it looks like the wide
receiving corps is is improved. Uh, this this feels like
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it feels like that the two final NFC games feels
like NFL playoff games. Right, Cowboys and Giants, Seahawks and Packers.
Let's start Seahawks and Packers. Give me your thoughts based
upon what you've seen from those teams so far in
the preseason. Well, it's gonna be fascinating to me that
one of the key storylines of time Montgomery and how
they use them. I mean, he that just gives them
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so much flexibility and their astility what they can do
with him. So that's something I'm looking forward to watching.
In that game. Dallas has a lot of new pieces
in the back end, and you've got green Bay with
all the chemistry that Rogers has, with all these weapons
on the outside, that's gonna be a challenge. That's gonna
be a challenge for them. So I like green Bay
in that one. But you know, I look at Dallas
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in the game. It's gonna be a great game. I
mean not Dallas, Seattle. Yeah, Seattle can can shorten the
game a little bit, will be in their favor, be fascinating.
Watch should be a great weekend football. Look forward to
catching up with you next week. DJ. In the meantime,
keep up the great work at the NFL Network. Download
his podcast as well. Daniel Jeremiah Dan, thanks so much
for joining us. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows
at Fox sports radio dot com and within the I
Heart Radio app. A friend of mine and a super
talented radio host, Craig Carton. You guys know this story.
You guys know who Craig Carton is. Stuck got leave
show Fox Sports Trade. Of course, I came here from
a different radio network and Craigie was the local morning
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host with Boomer Sizon. Boomer and Carton it's on w
f a N that's the oldest, really the oldest sports
radio station in the country. That's where Mike Frances says
the afternoon host, and he has said he's gonna retire
at the end of this year. So Craig Carton, apparently
yesterday morning, early this morning, was arrested on fraud charges
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that he was there were two things running, a Ponzi
scheme and some sort of uh, fake ticket company scheme,
and he was taking money that was supposed to be
for future profits to pay off gambling debts. And they have, uh,
they have emails between him and one of his co conspirators,
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and he just had his preliminary hearing in federal court
in New York City. Is facing up to forty five
years in jail. We have this thing in our country
that we don't want to be told what to do.
You ain't my data, right, that's what we want. We have.
We have dad issues, and we act like the government
is a it's a dad issue because they are managing
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and trying to have us be moderate with our sports
gambling problem. Craig Carton is a is a good hue.
I will go to my grave thing. He's a good
human being. He did this because he had a seven
figure gambling debt. Seven figure a guy who is making
seven figures essentially the king of sports radio in New York.
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He's in his sport, he's got four kids like he had.
It's a lifetime appointment on New York sports radio. Like
as long as something like this doesn't happen, he could
have dropped an F bomb on air and still probably
lived to see another day. But this is what an
addiction to gambling and what debt will make you do,
make you do crazy things. And so look, I'm not
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telling you to not lay money down on the lines
that I tell you on Friday, but I am telling
you this, this this rush to let's make sports and
game legal. Why can't I been on sports? I want
have been on sports. You can't. Government can't tell me
what to do. I want to be able to do it.
Like okay, But there's a problem. There's a reason that
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baseball doesn't allow that. Basically that Pete Rose will never
be in the Hall of Fame. Like you can't bet
on baseball because once you start, once you start losing,
Now they got you. Because eventually you get to a
point when you're gambling to which what was it the
line from Top Gun You're writing checks that your body
can't cash. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern
(26:11):
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. This is where Kaepernick is smart. He doesn't
want to be a backup. He don't want to sit there.
Why when he can be everybody's back up, every waiting,
completely waiting. But the bigger issue is that Baltimore was
his best shot of getting up, landing at a place
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where people knew him and had worked with him, and
that went away. Look, Miami wasn't a great shot. It
wasn't just because of the cat, because of the Castro
shirt and because of the Pig Cops socks, but the
Castro shirt heard him in Miami, Sure, But what hurt
him even more was that Jay Cutler was available, and
Jay Cutler had worked with Adam Gaze, So Baltimore made sense.
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Only what did I tell you? At the time his
girlfriend tweeting out a picture of meme of Ray Lewis
hugging Steve Bashatti and comparing it to the scene from
Django and Change, where Samuel Jackson is a loyal house
slave to to Leo Leonardo DiCaprio, who's a cruel plantation
(27:25):
character in the movie, Like dude that you're essentially calling, uh,
you're calling Steve Bischotti a slave owner, right and you're
calling ray Lewis house and that's what you're doing. Take
a listen to what ray Lewis said last night on
(27:46):
Inside the NFL in regards to what actually happened inside
the Baltimore Ravens front office when that tweet came out.
This girl goes out and puts out this racist sir
and does know to be clear, whose girl? Who's later
Colin Kaepernick that she doesn't know. We're in the back
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office about to about to try to get this guy
to sign. Stephani has said hisself, how can you crucify
ray Lewis when ray Lewis is the one calling for
Colin Kaepernick. We were going to close the deal to
sign him, to sign him. All we wanted to hear
was here Colin Kaepernick speak. Did you ever hear him space?
Steve Shady said, I want to hear Colin Kaepernick speak
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to let me know that he wants to play football.
And what I've been saying because of that picture comes
out the next day. If not for that to tweet
to tweet, you think, then he's flying him to Baltimore.
I'm sitting with all three of those and we're all
having a conversation about bringing Colin Kaepernick. If not for
that tweet, he's flying to Baltimore and the three of
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us are having a conversation. By the way, he also
said that Colin Kaepernick has never spoken and said he
wants to play football. Quarterback is a position of leadership.
You have to kept contry, troll over the locker room.
And if you can't control your girlfriend from tweeting something
out which is incredibly divisive and incendiary, then how are
you going to control the locker room? Where is the
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leadership from Colin Capit? What's amazing? Like he started a
movement in the NFL, no question, and I thought he
said some moronic things. Uh, during the first couple of
months of this protest. You go back and there are
things that he said which were incendiary. He didn't want
to take a side in the election. He didn't want
to say anything thoughtful in terms of the election process.
(29:35):
In the most discussed election in modern American history. He
chose to have both liars. I want nothing to do
with it. Like, Okay, dude, you're taking a political stance
and then you're choosing to be a political in the
biggest election in our lives. And you know, if you
want to be a leader, lead, you want to make
a change, help make a change. And I'm not being
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critical of him donating money to help UH to help
that change, but there has not been any Hey, I
want to play football. I want to lead this thing,
but I also want to lead a football team. We
don't know Adam Schefter at when he opted out of
his contract in San franciscoing Fairness Day, he opted out
because they were gonna cut him. When he opted out
of his contract, Adam Schefter reported he wasn't gonna protest anymore.
(30:18):
He wasn't gonnakneel before the flag. We haven't heard even
Colin Kaepernick say that. But the bigger takeaway is that
what ray Lewis is pointing out is these people that
think they're his friends that are helping him demonstration from
Spike Lee and other groups in New York City. Do
you think that's helping You're an NFL owner, and you're like, look,
(30:40):
i'd like to sign him, but what happens if I
don't play him? And what happens if I cut him?
And what if you're the starter? You're the starter and
you don't play, well, do you want some sort of demonstration?
We're not playing Colin Kaepernick now and we know why
he's not playing. I look, I know that most people
(31:01):
don't enjoy being called names, like I don't like being labeled.
You're a liberal, you're a conservative. We call people names,
uh so that when we can categorize them, it's easier,
but too want to ruffle their fence a little bit.
But if all the things you don't want to be called,
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which is kind of defenseless, is you don't want to
be called a racist, or you don't want to be
called a house you know what if you're really lewis
you just don't like called being called like, what's my
defense for you? Or you're a racist? Like, well, no,
I'm not. I can't go the I have black friends
thing because then you sound like George Costanza. Remember you
had the black friend be my black friend. Well I'm
(31:45):
not a racist, I'm not. What's your defense I'm just not.
It's an indefensible thing that you can say, like, oh
do I have to don't like, don't any money to
a cause? Does not make me not a racist. And
so if Steve Bashatti, who employs two people who are
probably championing championing your cause, John Harball, Greg Roman, and
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the team needs you, and you have uh the type
of team to which players are allowed to be personalities.
And look, it's not like the Baltimore Police has been
some bright and shining object. They have major, major issues,
and so you could help be a beacon of change
in that city. But dude, you didn't. Kaepernicks didn't say
(32:33):
or do anything wrong. But he didn't say or do
anything period. And then he's allowing people to speak for
him that don't know how to handle this thing. Fox
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Michael Bennett claiming Las Vegas police racially profiled him and
(32:54):
used excessive force when he was handcuffed on August. All right,
let's get into that Michael Bennett thing. Okay, have you
guys seen the video yet. Um, yes, okay, So Dan
buy are just your your honest opinion when you see
the video. I was disturbed. I didn't know what was
going on. Why why are you? Why are you disturbed
by So just for people who haven't seen the video
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and it's out there everywhere on the internet and um
on on the Twitter sphere as well. Um, the video
is Michael Bennett laying on the ground saying he was
just he was with friends. He's like, I'm with friends.
Everybody told us to run and there's a police been
handcuffing and that that's all we see in the video. Yeah,
(33:35):
I'm not necessarily necessary, I should say, familiar with that
sort of thing. That's not a thing that I've seen
a lot. And I would think that if I'm in
Michael bennett shoes, that if a policeman is got his
knee on my back and handcuffing me when I've done
nothing wrong, I think I would feel, um, very very weird.
It would be awkward. I don't Well, obviously he was misidentified.
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So here's what happens, Mayweather, I'm a Gregor fight. Uh,
there's noises that sound apparently like gunfire afterwards, and of course,
if you remember, like Tupac was killed after a Mike
Tyson fight, there's there's there could be a rough crowd
after after after fan, after a boxing match, after an
m M M A match, and so there's always kind
of some sort of fear of this sort of thing.
(34:17):
So Michael Bennett, I think was was he running or
was he actually in the car? He was running, Yeah,
he said that there were about two hundred people that
thought that they heard gunshots and he just ran like
everybody else. Right, So the police stopped him and they
wanted to cuff him, and like, I guess here's the problem.
That's what it looks like when you get handcuffed and
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you're like, well, he did nothing wrong. He did and
they released him. But there's a possibility. We haven't heard
from Las Vegas Police department. We don't know if he
fit if you fit the profile of a suspect in
the shooting or in something else, right, And like it's
not like like like we all we always think of
it the human side of it, from the human being
who's being handcuffed, and we don't think of it from
the human side of the police officer who's doing the
(34:59):
handcuffing the You can't just say, like, sir, can you
please just stop there and don't do anything like they
operate in the world to which you don't know if
that guy has a gun, guy has a knife. You
don't know if this guy is a criminal or if
he's an absolute angel. So you know, there's there's a
lot here that we don't know. But I didn't think
the video the video wasn't They weren't kicking him, they
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weren't holding a gun to his head. They were they
were doing what police officers do when they handcuffed somebody,
to try and understand what's going on and seeing the
crime so that they can't lose control of it. That
that's I think that's the problem. I don't I didn't
take that at all from it. I took it as
And maybe it's because we know Michael Bennett and that
could be a different story for a different day of
how many suspects match what an NFL defensive lineman would
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be A six three guy that's two d and seventy pounds,
and and I mean, I'm just saying that that body
type probably wouldn't be like everybody else, So we're not
so What's what we're saying is you can't profile him
because he's lap, but it's okay to profile and go,
oh you play in the NFL. Cool, You're free to go. Right,
That's not like no, I'm just saying, if there's a suspect,
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I mean, if if if the suspect comes out that
a seventy pounds, then well it doesn't have to be
two hundred seventy. You can't tell him like I don't
do the circus thing with the judging how some of
these ways, right, But like if you are trying to
figure out if a guy is a suspect in a
crime and he's six ft four, two hundred and forty pounds,
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you can't subdue him by asking him politely to be
you know, you know what I mean, like what do
you I don't understand what you're supposed to give. But
I think he fully cooperated with what was going on.
I know, but police, and this isn't police, is point,
This is my point. Police procedure, just police procedure on show.
Police procedure is probably too. When the guy's laying on
his back, you put your knee in their back so
that they can't move, like the thing they do with
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your thumb, which hurts super bad. You've been put into handcuffs. However,
the thing they do, they do it so that you
cannot resist arrest, so that you're you're defenseless. They do
it for a reason though, so that you can't fight
them off, because they can't go for their gun when
they're when they're when they're putting you in handcuffs. My
point is is I am not used to seeing someone
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being handcuffed and put on the ground with a kneed
of their back and being handcuffed, knowing what I know
about Michael Bennett and the player that he is, and
now the the his version of the story which happened
two weeks ago, Knowing what I knew, watching that video
makes me very uncomfortable, knowing that Michael Bennett didn't do
anything wrong. So when you asked me how I felt
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about it, I said I felt uncomfortable because hen new
Michael Bennett didn't do anything wrong. And so Michael Bennett's
being arrested on the street with a cop on his
need to his back, handcuffing him when he didn't do
anything wrong. And I'm just thinking, if it's anybody out
there that happened to that would stink, that that would
be awful. I would not want that to happen to me.
But again, let's let's take the let's take the police
(37:57):
officer's perspective for a second. Okay, there is there's gunfire.
Guys gonna ask me about the police officers perspective. Though
you asked me how I felt, I understand. But because
that's what we're that's what we're prone to do, is
we're prone to think because it's Michael Bennett and because
or any human being, we don't actually think of the
police officers perspective. Look, and I'm again I'm against police
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brutal like the stuff you see in Baltimore where they're
planting evidence like that's disgraceful. You should never be a
police officer ever. Again, right, and I do wonder why
they teach police officers to shoot to kill always. I'm
sure they have a logic behind it. But there are
times in which there was a police there there was
a man in New York who was wielding a knife
who was shot. He was I was a woman who
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was shot and killed, but she was wheeling a knife,
Like why couldn't she just shoot her in the foot,
like I don't. I don't really know the answer to
why do you have to shoot her in the knee
when if she has a knife, she's coming after you
Just shoot her in the foot. She'll fall down, then
take the knife from her, Like, I don't know. That
seems easy to me. A lot of this is about
how they're trained, and I don't know what the reason is.
But what I'm saying is this to me, this is
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this is what it looks like when somebody is handcuffed.
This is how they do it. And I actually understand
a cops perspective of there's a wild scene after a fight,
guys go running. I don't know if they were looking
for a suspect. I don't I haven't heard from the place.
I don't know the logic behind why they stopped Michael Bennett,
what he said to get himself cuffed beforehand or whatever.
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I feel terrible because Michael Bennett is a dude who's like,
of all the people that you don't want to do
this too. This is the guy that's been trying to
call for social change. Right on the other hand, like
you're a cop, you don't know all this all you're
trying to do is get control of the scene. And
you're taught when you when you get somebody you might
suspect of a crime, you you have them laid down,
you put their knee in there, your back, and you
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tell them not to move because if they move, you
don't know what's in their pocket, you don't know what's
in their billfold, you don't know what's in their ankle.
And just like we haven't, we don't. We haven't lived
at cops life where they you make a mistake and
you allow somebody the freedom to go, no, hey, I wasn't.
Every guy they've ever arrested did says they weren't doing anything.
(40:01):
Just just so we're aware. Every person who's ever it's
like they say in Shawshank Redemption, everyone in here is innocent, right, Like,
so I'm not saying that Michael Bennett was done right.
It was a case of mistaken identity, and it does
look bad. On the other hand, I also understand it's
a really hard job to be a police officer. And
everyone you ever put into handcuffs said he didn't do
anything wrong, and oh, please loosen up those please loosen
(40:25):
up those uh, those those handcuffs. Well, I just like,
like my issue and I I agree with Like if
if someone, you know, broke into my house and there
was there was a there was a thief for a
robber that came into my house and the cops there
and came in and they brought the guy over, grabbed
him in the living room, and then pulled him aside
and started talking to him. I would be like, what
(40:46):
in the world are you doing? You know, this guy
was just in our house, maybe had a weapon. I
would feel like, why wasn't he subdued or handcuffed? What?
I get all that, But we watch on high speed
chases in l A. When there's a car that's driving
for how many hours? And what happens. You've got eight
cops behind them. Now, there wasn't the number of cops
that you would have on a high speed chase, but
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it's the same thing. They cuff them up, they put
him on his back. When we know a guy has
been driving a hundred on the fifty seven for the
last hold on. Now they try and ram those cars
and when those guys hop out of the cars, they
beat the living hell out of those guys. I've I've
seen ones to where they're not. They're not. They don't
go like, okay, come sit in the cop car. They
beat the crap out of those guys, and they do.
Now they're also very cautious because they don't know if
(41:28):
those guys have a gun, and they don't want them
to kill themselves. Right. So, but I I disagree with
you the idea that we see these high speed police chases,
where cuffs where where have you seen guys be handcuffed
on a daily basis? That's like, that's my that's my
point on it is. I don't my world. I don't understand.
This is what it looks like when somebody gets arrested.
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This is what it looks like. That's all you heard.
That's that. That's what it looks like when anybody gets
arrested on the street. It's it's a bad deal. It
looks like the was the James Blake thing in New York, right,
or James Blake was misidentified as a suspect and the
cops took him to the ground the top side to
apologize that it became this whole big thing. But I mean,
the fact was that the cop at the time, he
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they thought he fit the he fit the description of
a suspect in the area. I'm like, again, this is
this is the world that cops live in. This is
the world that cops live in. And I didn't say
it's okay, but they're trained for a reason. Ted Taylor,
he's woke on Twitter. I'll bet he's got ten thousand tweets.
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Pretty sure Gottlieb Show wishes he'd stop talking right now. No,
I'm talking from honest perspective. I feel bad for Michael
Bennett for being misidentified as a suspect, but I also
don't know, because I haven't heard from the police officers
why they handcuffed him to begin with, because I'm guessing
it's proper police procedure when you handcuffed somebody and they're
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laying on the ground, to put your knee in their
back so that they can't move, because that he could
physically overwhelm. Michael Bennett is a big dude, and if
he wasn't a super nice guy, he could beat the
crap out of a smaller police officer period. By the way,
the cop is not white this year, where so we
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don't know if he fits the description, we don't know
the reason behind it, and We never take into account
what why was the cop doing what he was doing,
and was he simply doing what he was trained, which,
by the way, ice Cube joined us from Las Vegas
and he was like, look, I think some of this
is police tactics, not the police themselves, how they're taught
to handle certain situations.
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and they don't get caught up in Rosen's comeback with
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opening kickoff. That to come, But let's get to the
news of the day. News of the day is that
Ezekiel Elliott, though the suspension was upheld yesterday because they've
(01:09):
gone to court. He'll get a temporary injunction and he'll
be able to play this Sunday. The most important thing
for NFL front office people and for yackers like myself
is let me just kind of get out ahead of
it going to be record ratings this weekend in the NFL. Again,
I'm not huge in the prediction game. I do give
(01:31):
you picks. I'm gonna talk about the dangers actually of
gambling as one of my close friends in the business,
Um is facing charges, federal charges, and it all comes
kind of back to Gamelin and get to that later
in the show. But look, I'm not huge into predictions,
but I will tell you that the NFL is a
freight train out of control in terms of popularity. Many
(01:53):
of you, including my friends, had a fantasy football draft
in the last week's we had when yesterday, I got
one today as well. Tom Brady is playing and on
opening Night and against the Kansas City Chiefs, a team
that you go back a couple of years ago, beat
them Monday and Monday Night football the year they turned
around and won the Super Bowl. Great game on a
Thursday night. Plus you got Brady Goodelli be in attendance
(02:13):
and all the things that worked against them last year,
the election, not having Brady, injury to Romo, some of
the big name teams missing their big stars at the
start of the year, and games that were supposed to
be good, we're not good. In addition to at least
a small portion of people going like between the election
(02:34):
and the protest, no Peyton Manning he was retired. It
was just a lot like why do I watch the
Denver Broncos. Now you have, uh, the Raiders, who are
a signature team. They'll play primetime games and they're good,
and they have a player that you want to watch.
The Raiders will bring people in. The Steelers a team
(02:56):
that have a huge following nationally and they're loaded for
Bear Big Ben Antonio Brown who joined US yesterday, Martevis Bryant,
the most mispronounced name in the NFL this season is
back office suspension. And they're a team that plays a
fun style. But more than anything, the Marquee games will
be just that and they will have the Marquee players.
And you don't have an election, you don't have the
(03:17):
nonsense of what took place last year and nagn to
the water ball and from the Thursday night game with
the Pats to the Sunday afternoon game, which is the
Seattle Seahawks fully loaded taking on the Green Bay Packers
fully loaded on Fox. And then NBC gets g Men
(03:37):
with Odell Beckham Jr. In the conversation the most popular
player in all of sports in America with the Cowboys
with no quarterback controversy and Ezekiel It will play the
NFL wins kids, But you know who loses all of
us because what's going to happen over the next couple
of weeks. It's already happened. Is this is the lie?
(03:59):
And look, we all tell lies, right, like we all
say things that will happen in the future that aren't
going to happen in the future. You've been drunk before,
and if you haven't, let me just kind of explain.
At first, you feel really really good, and then you
feel really really bad once you've gone over your limit. Right,
Like my wife is honestly like a one and a
half drink, Like she gets to two or above two drinks,
(04:20):
her world starts spinning and she feels awful and she,
unlike the rest of it, she can't sleep it off.
She goes to sleep, she gets the spins, she doesn't
go to sleep. Now she's tired the next day plus hungover.
Everybody has that limit. And once you get even past
that limit, now you start to get sick, and you're
you're praying to the porcelain God, and what are you
saying to yourself? I'm never gonna drink again. God, dear God,
(04:43):
I'm never gonna drink again. I promise, Just make me
make it so that they don't feel bad tomorrow. Yes,
I gotta stop throwing up. It's just right. We've all
made that lie. We all made that lie. You know,
you've even made the lion sports. Ask yourself after the
Pacciale Mayweather fight, did you walk away going I'm never
(05:08):
buying another Floyd Mayweather fight ever? And then Mayweather is
fighting a non boxer, a guy who's never fought a
day in his life in a boxing ring, and you're like, God,
gotta watch this thing. Okay, last time, last, last time?
All right, everybody, Yet you get your boys over your
(05:29):
like last time on three two three, last time. I mean,
even the even leagues lie to themselves, like the NBA
is like, oh, we gotta change this one and done
rule did anybody realize they actually have had two negotiations,
two CBA negotiations, and both they've decided to not even
(05:49):
broach the one and done rule. Like we'll get to
it when we get to it. So here's the lie
that you're you're told by people the next time around,
Roger Goodell is gonna lose the power that the Commissioner's
office has had since because he has autonomous power. And
this is unfair, and it probably is unfair by the way.
(06:13):
I just hate to be this guy. But um, in
anybody else's job, right if the NFL is a job,
anybody else's job, if they suspend you, right you appealed,
Like who do you think? Here's it? Like? Who do
you think reconsiders how long they suspend you, or if
they fire you, or if they hold you out of work?
Do you think the same boss? But regardless of which,
(06:33):
we are told time and again by radio hosts, by
former players, by any sort of hanjak who has a
microphone in front of him, Roger Goodell has too much
power in the next time the CBA comes around, even
the head of the NFL p a like this is
just ridiculous. Do you know why they don't care because
(06:54):
once you get to actual negotiations, players are sitting there
going like, wait, Han, there's fifty hundred and ninety active
players any week in the NFL. That's the math I
did fifty three times thirty two. Okay, plus you have
practice squad guys. So he got approximately six guys. There's
like fifteen or twenty that get in legit trouble. Fifteen
(07:18):
or twenty that get in legit trouble. So when you're
talking about the bottom one percent, they don't care. This
doesn't affect me. People vote for and decide on the
future of things, and the same with like what affects
me in the future. And if the NFL players aren't
going to be worried about his autonomous rule because they
(07:41):
don't allegedly strike a woman, they just don't. They don't
snort cocaine, they don't take steroids, they don't not stop
smoking weed like, um, who was it from the Browns
the wide receiver got hadn't played so like Josh Gordon right,
(08:01):
like ad played so long and forgot like stop smoking weed.
Like it's actually a really simple policy. Everybody gets tested
in the off season, and once you get tested if
you pass that test, they don't test you for the
rest of the year. It's not a drug test, it's
an intelligence test. And if you failed it, most guys
really like, what a dummy. That's what they think, and
so they don't worry about the dummies, much like they
(08:23):
actually don't worry about the top one per cent of
earner's either. What are they worried about? I guarantee next
time around the lie that you've been told. First thing
we're gonna take care of is Roger Goodell? Like all right,
you want Goodell to give away some of his power? Sure?
What are you giving back? You given back some guaranteed money?
Like no, you can back some years on contracts. You
can away the split of the football revenue our football
(08:45):
revenue yar footbolly Like no, Like okay, so we're gonna
give up something we already have vent sin seen for nothing,
Like that's not the way it works, Like okay, well
what else do you want? Like, well, we want more
players on active rosters, more than fifty three there, Like okay,
sure you can have that. What do you want to
give up? It's they called a negotiation, and in the
importance of negotiation, guaranteed money, post career benefits, number of
(09:08):
players who are on an active roster, number of games,
preseason games, number of contact. All of these other things
are the Commissioner's office pales in comparison. Nobody. Guys don't
care because they don't run a foul with the law.
We just don't. They're like, well, that didn't affect me
because I don't beat my wife. You know, I don't
(09:31):
bet my girlfriend. I don't smoke weed, or if I
do smoke weed, I do so after I take the
first drug test in the off season, so they're not
gonna test me. But I don't drink and drive and
take uber. That's how people, most people think. That's definitely
how the rank and file. So the one thing you
should not do or not get into the rabbit hole,
(09:54):
the the vortex, you know, vortex just kind of pulls
you and you're like, all right, dare get out whoa
whoa you the conversation you cannot get into And I
don't even think you really cares. Roger Delmont, he's the worst,
and he's just so like now he's actually not He's
kind of made them a ton of money. He's developed
new revenue streams. He's moved three teams, which will make
(10:15):
all the rest of the owners over two billion dollars
in relocation fees two billion dollars in relocation fees, settle
the concussion lawsuit established Thursday Night Football, then split up
Thursday Night Football from just CBS to NBC, all the
while giving those games to the NFL network so that
the league owned network can continue to make millions and
millions and millions of dollars. They got labor piece until
(10:37):
about two thousand twenty one, Like this deal is, this
deal is humming financially, and guys get sidetracked and go
like I'm never gonna drink again. And then next Frida
Night like Miller time. Huh, it's bureau'clock. I thought you
said last weekend, Like, dude, stop it. I was hungover.
(10:58):
I thought you said, you're never gonna by another Mayweather
fight after Pak. Yeah. Yeah, but it's McGregor. It's McGregor,
and so mark my words. Two tho. If I'm still
working in this industry, they'll get to the c B
A and people are like, oh, they're gonna go after
Goodell's power. No, No, I don't care because most guys
in that locker room. Are just guys in that locker room, Like, Hey,
(11:22):
here's the thought. Don't beat your girlfriend or don't get
don't be in such a psychotic relationship to where anybody
could think that you might be your girl. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show
weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in,
Daniel Jeremiah, who you will? You will hear on this
(11:43):
show weekly on The Doug Gotlip Show, and of course
you can. He's got a podcast. Uh. He also is
on the NFL networking is kind enough to join us
here on Fox Sports Radio DJ. Let's start with with
college football, and everyone's talking about the college quarterback prospects.
He had Sam darn who, by some people's estimation, it
was a home home day at the coliseum as they
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didn't polish off they didn't polish off Western Michigan. But
he's got new wide receivers, he's got new running backs,
new tight ends, had some drops and then of course
U c l a all anybody wants to talk about
his rosen in the fourth quarter, Let's start with Donald,
you've seen him on tape. How do you look he
played well, Doug. I mean that was it was kind
of interesting that all had talked was that he just
didn't have a good game and was off, and then
(12:26):
when you study it, you see a handful of drops. Um.
I still saw the same anticipation, accuracy, touch, poise, all
that stuff was there. You know, I thought he actually
played really well. How how how how much concerned you
have for the throwing motion. I mean, that's something that
you're gonna have to work through. But I mean, I
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think we've talked about it before that if you have
a slow looping motion, you've got no chance. If you've
got an explosive motion that's a little bit long and
you and you have some velocity, you can make up for.
So it's not a it's not a deal breaker for me,
but there are teams that's gonna bother all right, then
let's go to to Josh Rosen. He was not protected
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in the first half. How much of that can Can
you put any of that on him? Or is he
simply guy's not blocking? Well? I mean a couple of
things that he needs to speed up his clock a
little bit, and one of the one of the areas
when you're comparing him with Donald, you give Donald the
edge is just being able to avoid and alluded inside
the pocket. And that's something like you don't have to
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do the most mobile ground in the world. And Josh
and Rosen is a good athlete, but he's got to
get a little bit better at side step and maneuver
inside the pockets to some of the hits he's taken out.
I mean he he makes a big time throws and
he is a beautiful passer. I mean the feet are great,
the release is beautiful. Um, but self preservation, man, he's
he's gotta he's he's gotta be a little bit better
(13:51):
than that department. He's not gonna make it through the year,
all right. But was was he as good as the numbers?
And as the twenty eight unanswered point in the fourth quarter?
Was he as good as those numbers would lead you
to believe? I don't know that I would say he
was as good as the numbers you would believe me. Look,
it's an incredible comeback and he made some some huge throws.
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But even when you kind of look at that last drive,
just some of the management stuff when you go back
and watch it. You see take a delay a game.
There were several plays where they didn't get everybody set.
He got called on at once, uh that there's a
penalty there. And then you have, you know, into the
chist of a defensive linement that popped up in the
air and could have been could have been picked off.
So it wasn't a perfect It wasn't perfect in execution.
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But man, he makes some throws that are just there
there while throws he's got a ton of ability. No,
he he does. But see, I this is what I
pointed out both Monday and Tuesday Dana Jeremiah joining us is. Look,
I get that he's only a college quarterback, so managing
a game is not something he's going to be as
refined in as a pro is. On the other hand,
he's in his third year as a starter. He's playing
at home, so it's not like crowd noises a factor
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and like we're sold what we've been sold on Rosen
is Hey, maybe he doesn't have the hose that some
of these other gid that the Josh Allen from Wyoming has,
but parents are ivally educated. He's super bright. Like those
are the type of things when you get to delay
a game because of the quarterback, when you get a
false start because of the quarterback. Uh, those are football,
(15:17):
i Q. Things that we thought he would have mastered
with his time spent in college football. And that's where
it's more surprising than just any other college quarterback. Is
that fair? No, Yeah, that's fair. Look, that's your job
as a quarterback is to manage the game. I always
thing is if you like to see him slow down,
maybe a little bit there. But the other side of it,
it's a little bit understandable. That was such a that
(15:39):
was such a whirlwind. I mean, the people they're going
to hunter miles an hour and he actually just needed
to kind of slow down a little bit and he
didn't quite do that, but hey, I mean the game,
No he did. Dan Daniel Jeremiah joining us Mason Rudolphs
the guy that people are also talking about in that
first round along with with josh al Uh. He put
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up ridiculous numbers last year. He had three touchdowns, no
interstptions completed of his passes in the first game of season,
granted against Tulsa. Will see him Friday night. Um, Is
he anywhere in the vicinity of the top three quarterbacks.
I have some separation there. Um, you know, I think
he's kind of in that next tier. But look, we've
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seen these the second tier of quarterbacks go in the
first round all the time. You know, you say, okay,
the little separation this this group of two or three
guys in this next group. But we've seen that second
wave of quarterbacks go. And I think Luke Falk and him,
I'm anxious to kind of study them throughout the year
and see how that sorts out. I think those two
guys are battling for that fourth spot. Luke Falk of
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course at Washington State and he pitched nearly a perfect
game going back to their their win on Saturday. Daniel
Jeremiah at Moved the Sticks is the Twitter handle. Also,
you can followhim on Instagram as he puts out video
of so many plus. All right, let's get to the
let's get to the big boys, let's get to the
National Football League. Um, all right, you take away for
another year, you take away Alex Smith's running back, and
(17:02):
you put some pressure on Alex Smith because Pat Mahomes
has been lighting the up second, third, and four stringers
in the preseason. Everybody knows that Mahomes has armed town.
Even if he's not gonna set the play this year,
that does put some pressure on Alex Smith. We'll see
them on Thursday Night against the Patriots. What are your
thoughts on the chief everybody's talking about the Patriots. What
are your thoughts in the Chiefs and Alex Smith coming
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into the season. Well, I look, I think going there
for training camp, they're they're equally excited about Mahomes, but
they're also in no hurry to get him out there.
And sometimes people give lip service that like when Bordles.
Remember when Bordles was behind Handy when he first came
in and they said they're a red shirt for the
whole year. But you kind of got to say that
ain't gonna happen. I do believe that they will rest
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Mahomes throughout the year, let him sitting learned. I don't
think he's ready to play. The wild plays are are spectacular,
but just the down and down out managing the team.
I think he's got a long way to go. And
I think this Chief's team were division on the ANC West,
but I mean they've got a chance to be right
there at the very top that they got a pass
rush um. They've got an efficient, if not super explosive offense.
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You didn't see as much of Tyreek Hill as I
thought we would in the preseason, but we'll see him
kind of unleashed on the Patriots ament. Right. What about
the Patriots? How how how devastating is the blow losing
their top wide receiver from last season. Well, I mean,
i I've never I'll never doubt that group. I mean,
they the best tight end, the most dominating weapon in
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the NFL in the passing game. You know, sit it
out at the end of last year, and they went
on and won the Super Bowl and didn't really have
much trouble I mean throughout the year. So they find
a way to pug holes. And I can't wait to
see how they used Brandon Cooks in this thing. I
think they're gonna be a little bit more vertical than
they've been in the past because they've got several guys
they can get down the field. Now, Danda Jeremiah joining
us in the Doug Gotlip Show at least discussed team
(18:49):
with a ton of talent. They underachieved last year in
Vantes Perfect suspended uh to start this season is the
Cincinnati Bengals. Of course they get Tyler Eiffer. We think
he'll be back to take on the Ravens, their favorite
at home. Still got a j. Green Hill's gonna start
at running back. They got three really talented, really good
running backs. What do you make of the Bengals? A
team that look, you got a coach on the hot seat,
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but they've made the playoffs consistently up until last year
where they where they where they fell flat. Can can
the Bengals get back atop their division? I think they can.
I think when you look at them on paper, in
almost every single position group they are. They are in
great shape, save pretty offensive line, and I think in
one over the radar we put the Rams in what
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they've gotten Andrew Whitworth, But we haven't talked much about
what Cincinnati lost and Andrew Whitworth. So that, to me
is the one question market for that team in a
division that's that's got a pretty good group of front
seven they're gonna face, but man, their defensive front is loaded. Um,
you look at the running backs, I think Joe Mixon.
Look fantasy football, whether you play or you don't play it,
I've been two leagues. Doug and I took him so early.
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I mean, he's just such a talent. I know they
have the other backs, but I'd be shocked if he
doesn't emerge early in the season. As the guy you
mentioned Rams you called the preseason games, I called this thing.
This goes back a week and a half ago, dj
I went on the radio. Is like, at this point
in time, the Rams are a three point dog, Andrew
Luck is not playing, and the Colts are terrible, like
in the three or four worst teams in the NFL
without him, plus they have massive injuries. Um, but but
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give me your sense of what you've seen from Jared
Golf and what your expectations are of him in this offense,
with more talent around him and in a completely different
coaching style. I think he's in a great situation. Uh,
it's gonna be up to him. I don't know if
last year the success, no matter what he could have done,
I don't know if they would have been able to
be successful, just in terms of the lack of protection
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he had, the lack of playmakers around him, and really,
to be quite honest, not not a great play caller.
I think they're They're upgraded in all three areas. I
think you're seeing more confidence from him, and I'm looking
forward to watching what they do in the regular season.
They didn't do much of it in the preseason, but
I wouldn't be shocked if if coach McVeigh you saw
a lot of pace with him, a lot of tempo,
and that's something that that your got very comfortable with
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from his time at college. UM, I think it would
make a lot of sense for them to try and
go fast. The Air and Donald thing is interesting, you know,
I nationally. I don't know how big a story it is. UM.
They want to help him renegotiate his contract, but he's
got two years left, plus he'd he'd be under club
control after those two years, so so they hold all
the cards. The only thing he can do is not
collect checks and not show up. How long does this
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thing last? I don't know. I mean, there's the uh,
there's a certain date you gotta reach. I can't remember
what it is. What is it like eight weeks before
you don't get credit for the season. So at some
point in time he's going to be in there. You know. Look,
it's it's what tricky situation. You can make a cases
the best defensive linemen all football. You can make it
pretty easily. But the means can make a case. And
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you've got two years left on your deal. If we're
gonna if we're gonna do this thing early, they got
to get at least a tiny bit of a discount.
So you can kind of see how both sides a
dig in Seahawks Packers. Um, Look, the Packers were terrible
in their back end last year. They've gone out, They've
they've added free agents. Uh, it looks like the wide
receiving corps is is improved. Uh, this this feels like
(22:08):
it feels like that the two final NFC games feels
like NFL playoff games. Right, Cowboys and Giants, Seahawks and Packers.
Let's start Seahawks and Packers. Give me your thoughts based
upon what you've seen from those teams so far in
the preseason. Well, it's gonna be fascinating to me that
one of the key storylines of time Montgomery and how
they use them. I mean, he that just gives them
(22:29):
so much flexibility and their astility what they can do
with him. So that's something I'm looking forward to watching.
In that game. Dallas has a lot of new pieces
in the back end, and you've got green Bay with
all the chemistry that Rogers has, with all these weapons
on the outside, that's gonna be a challenge. That's gonna
be a challenge for them. So I like green Bay
in that one. But you know, I look at Dallas
(22:51):
in the game. It's gonna be a great game. I
mean not Dallas, Seattle. Yeah, Seattle can can shorten the
game a little bit, will be in their favor, be fascinating.
Watch should be a great weekend football. Look forward to
catching up with you next week. DJ. In the meantime,
keep up the great work at the NFL Network. Download
his podcast as well. Daniel Jeremiah Dan, thanks so much
for joining us. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Heart Radio app. A friend of mine and a super
talented radio host, Craig Carton. You guys know this story.
You guys know who Craig Carton is. Stuck got leave
show Fox Sports Trade. Of course, I came here from
a different radio network and Craigie was the local morning
(23:37):
host with Boomer Sizon. Boomer and Carton it's on w
f a N that's the oldest, really the oldest sports
radio station in the country. That's where Mike Frances says
the afternoon host, and he has said he's gonna retire
at the end of this year. So Craig Carton, apparently
yesterday morning, early this morning, was arrested on fraud charges
(23:59):
that he was there were two things running, a Ponzi
scheme and some sort of uh, fake ticket company scheme,
and he was taking money that was supposed to be
for future profits to pay off gambling debts. And they have, uh,
they have emails between him and one of his co conspirators,
(24:20):
and he just had his preliminary hearing in federal court
in New York City. Is facing up to forty five
years in jail. We have this thing in our country
that we don't want to be told what to do.
You ain't my data, right, that's what we want. We have.
We have dad issues, and we act like the government
is a it's a dad issue because they are managing
(24:42):
and trying to have us be moderate with our sports
gambling problem. Craig Carton is a is a good hue.
I will go to my grave thing. He's a good
human being. He did this because he had a seven
figure gambling debt. Seven figure a guy who is making
seven figures essentially the king of sports radio in New York.
(25:05):
He's in his sport, he's got four kids like he had.
It's a lifetime appointment on New York sports radio. Like
as long as something like this doesn't happen, he could
have dropped an F bomb on air and still probably
lived to see another day. But this is what an
addiction to gambling and what debt will make you do,
make you do crazy things. And so look, I'm not
(25:28):
telling you to not lay money down on the lines
that I tell you on Friday, but I am telling
you this, this this rush to let's make sports and
game legal. Why can't I been on sports? I want
have been on sports. You can't. Government can't tell me
what to do. I want to be able to do it.
Like okay, But there's a problem. There's a reason that
(25:49):
baseball doesn't allow that. Basically that Pete Rose will never
be in the Hall of Fame. Like you can't bet
on baseball because once you start, once you start losing,
Now they got you. Because eventually you get to a
point when you're gambling to which what was it the
line from Top Gun You're writing checks that your body
can't cash. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern
(26:11):
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. This is where Kaepernick is smart. He doesn't
want to be a backup. He don't want to sit there.
Why when he can be everybody's back up, every waiting,
completely waiting. But the bigger issue is that Baltimore was
his best shot of getting up, landing at a place
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where people knew him and had worked with him, and
that went away. Look, Miami wasn't a great shot. It
wasn't just because of the cat, because of the Castro
shirt and because of the Pig Cops socks, but the
Castro shirt heard him in Miami, Sure, But what hurt
him even more was that Jay Cutler was available, and
Jay Cutler had worked with Adam Gaze, So Baltimore made sense.
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Only what did I tell you? At the time his
girlfriend tweeting out a picture of meme of Ray Lewis
hugging Steve Bashatti and comparing it to the scene from
Django and Change, where Samuel Jackson is a loyal house
slave to to Leo Leonardo DiCaprio, who's a cruel plantation
(27:25):
character in the movie, Like dude that you're essentially calling, uh,
you're calling Steve Bischotti a slave owner, right and you're
calling ray Lewis house and that's what you're doing. Take
a listen to what ray Lewis said last night on
(27:46):
Inside the NFL in regards to what actually happened inside
the Baltimore Ravens front office when that tweet came out.
This girl goes out and puts out this racist sir
and does know to be clear, whose girl? Who's later
Colin Kaepernick that she doesn't know. We're in the back
(28:06):
office about to about to try to get this guy
to sign. Stephani has said hisself, how can you crucify
ray Lewis when ray Lewis is the one calling for
Colin Kaepernick. We were going to close the deal to
sign him, to sign him. All we wanted to hear
was here Colin Kaepernick speak. Did you ever hear him space?
Steve Shady said, I want to hear Colin Kaepernick speak
(28:28):
to let me know that he wants to play football.
And what I've been saying because of that picture comes
out the next day. If not for that to tweet
to tweet, you think, then he's flying him to Baltimore.
I'm sitting with all three of those and we're all
having a conversation about bringing Colin Kaepernick. If not for
that tweet, he's flying to Baltimore and the three of
(28:50):
us are having a conversation. By the way, he also
said that Colin Kaepernick has never spoken and said he
wants to play football. Quarterback is a position of leadership.
You have to kept contry, troll over the locker room.
And if you can't control your girlfriend from tweeting something
out which is incredibly divisive and incendiary, then how are
you going to control the locker room? Where is the
(29:12):
leadership from Colin Capit? What's amazing? Like he started a
movement in the NFL, no question, and I thought he
said some moronic things. Uh, during the first couple of
months of this protest. You go back and there are
things that he said which were incendiary. He didn't want
to take a side in the election. He didn't want
to say anything thoughtful in terms of the election process.
(29:35):
In the most discussed election in modern American history. He
chose to have both liars. I want nothing to do
with it. Like, Okay, dude, you're taking a political stance
and then you're choosing to be a political in the
biggest election in our lives. And you know, if you
want to be a leader, lead, you want to make
a change, help make a change. And I'm not being
(29:57):
critical of him donating money to help UH to help
that change, but there has not been any Hey, I
want to play football. I want to lead this thing,
but I also want to lead a football team. We
don't know Adam Schefter at when he opted out of
his contract in San franciscoing Fairness Day, he opted out
because they were gonna cut him. When he opted out
of his contract, Adam Schefter reported he wasn't gonna protest anymore.
(30:18):
He wasn't gonnakneel before the flag. We haven't heard even
Colin Kaepernick say that. But the bigger takeaway is that
what ray Lewis is pointing out is these people that
think they're his friends that are helping him demonstration from
Spike Lee and other groups in New York City. Do
you think that's helping You're an NFL owner, and you're like, look,
(30:40):
i'd like to sign him, but what happens if I
don't play him? And what happens if I cut him?
And what if you're the starter? You're the starter and
you don't play, well, do you want some sort of demonstration?
We're not playing Colin Kaepernick now and we know why
he's not playing. I look, I know that most people
(31:01):
don't enjoy being called names, like I don't like being labeled.
You're a liberal, you're a conservative. We call people names,
uh so that when we can categorize them, it's easier,
but too want to ruffle their fence a little bit.
But if all the things you don't want to be called,
(31:21):
which is kind of defenseless, is you don't want to
be called a racist, or you don't want to be
called a house you know what if you're really lewis
you just don't like called being called like, what's my
defense for you? Or you're a racist? Like, well, no,
I'm not. I can't go the I have black friends
thing because then you sound like George Costanza. Remember you
had the black friend be my black friend. Well I'm
(31:45):
not a racist, I'm not. What's your defense I'm just not.
It's an indefensible thing that you can say, like, oh
do I have to don't like, don't any money to
a cause? Does not make me not a racist. And
so if Steve Bashatti, who employs two people who are
probably championing championing your cause, John Harball, Greg Roman, and
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the team needs you, and you have uh the type
of team to which players are allowed to be personalities.
And look, it's not like the Baltimore Police has been
some bright and shining object. They have major, major issues,
and so you could help be a beacon of change
in that city. But dude, you didn't. Kaepernicks didn't say
(32:33):
or do anything wrong. But he didn't say or do
anything period. And then he's allowing people to speak for
him that don't know how to handle this thing. Fox
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
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com and within the I Heart Radio app. Defensive End
Michael Bennett claiming Las Vegas police racially profiled him and
(32:54):
used excessive force when he was handcuffed on August. All right,
let's get into that Michael Bennett thing. Okay, have you
guys seen the video yet. Um, yes, okay, So Dan
buy are just your your honest opinion when you see
the video. I was disturbed. I didn't know what was
going on. Why why are you? Why are you disturbed
by So just for people who haven't seen the video
(33:14):
and it's out there everywhere on the internet and um
on on the Twitter sphere as well. Um, the video
is Michael Bennett laying on the ground saying he was
just he was with friends. He's like, I'm with friends.
Everybody told us to run and there's a police been
handcuffing and that that's all we see in the video. Yeah,
(33:35):
I'm not necessarily necessary, I should say, familiar with that
sort of thing. That's not a thing that I've seen
a lot. And I would think that if I'm in
Michael bennett shoes, that if a policeman is got his
knee on my back and handcuffing me when I've done
nothing wrong, I think I would feel, um, very very weird.
It would be awkward. I don't Well, obviously he was misidentified.
(33:57):
So here's what happens, Mayweather, I'm a Gregor fight. Uh,
there's noises that sound apparently like gunfire afterwards, and of course,
if you remember, like Tupac was killed after a Mike
Tyson fight, there's there's there could be a rough crowd
after after after fan, after a boxing match, after an
m M M A match, and so there's always kind
of some sort of fear of this sort of thing.
(34:17):
So Michael Bennett, I think was was he running or
was he actually in the car? He was running, Yeah,
he said that there were about two hundred people that
thought that they heard gunshots and he just ran like
everybody else. Right, So the police stopped him and they
wanted to cuff him, and like, I guess here's the problem.
That's what it looks like when you get handcuffed and
(34:38):
you're like, well, he did nothing wrong. He did and
they released him. But there's a possibility. We haven't heard
from Las Vegas Police department. We don't know if he
fit if you fit the profile of a suspect in
the shooting or in something else, right, And like it's
not like like like we all we always think of
it the human side of it, from the human being
who's being handcuffed, and we don't think of it from
the human side of the police officer who's doing the
(34:59):
handcuffing the You can't just say, like, sir, can you
please just stop there and don't do anything like they
operate in the world to which you don't know if
that guy has a gun, guy has a knife. You
don't know if this guy is a criminal or if
he's an absolute angel. So you know, there's there's a
lot here that we don't know. But I didn't think
the video the video wasn't They weren't kicking him, they
(35:20):
weren't holding a gun to his head. They were they
were doing what police officers do when they handcuffed somebody,
to try and understand what's going on and seeing the
crime so that they can't lose control of it. That
that's I think that's the problem. I don't I didn't
take that at all from it. I took it as
And maybe it's because we know Michael Bennett and that
could be a different story for a different day of
how many suspects match what an NFL defensive lineman would
(35:44):
be A six three guy that's two d and seventy pounds,
and and I mean, I'm just saying that that body
type probably wouldn't be like everybody else, So we're not
so What's what we're saying is you can't profile him
because he's lap, but it's okay to profile and go,
oh you play in the NFL. Cool, You're free to go. Right,
That's not like no, I'm just saying, if there's a suspect,
(36:06):
I mean, if if if the suspect comes out that
a seventy pounds, then well it doesn't have to be
two hundred seventy. You can't tell him like I don't
do the circus thing with the judging how some of
these ways, right, But like if you are trying to
figure out if a guy is a suspect in a
crime and he's six ft four, two hundred and forty pounds,
(36:29):
you can't subdue him by asking him politely to be
you know, you know what I mean, like what do
you I don't understand what you're supposed to give. But
I think he fully cooperated with what was going on.
I know, but police, and this isn't police, is point,
This is my point. Police procedure, just police procedure on show.
Police procedure is probably too. When the guy's laying on
his back, you put your knee in their back so
that they can't move, like the thing they do with
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your thumb, which hurts super bad. You've been put into handcuffs. However,
the thing they do, they do it so that you
cannot resist arrest, so that you're you're defenseless. They do
it for a reason though, so that you can't fight
them off, because they can't go for their gun when
they're when they're when they're putting you in handcuffs. My
point is is I am not used to seeing someone
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being handcuffed and put on the ground with a kneed
of their back and being handcuffed, knowing what I know
about Michael Bennett and the player that he is, and
now the the his version of the story which happened
two weeks ago, Knowing what I knew, watching that video
makes me very uncomfortable, knowing that Michael Bennett didn't do
anything wrong. So when you asked me how I felt
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about it, I said I felt uncomfortable because hen new
Michael Bennett didn't do anything wrong. And so Michael Bennett's
being arrested on the street with a cop on his
need to his back, handcuffing him when he didn't do
anything wrong. And I'm just thinking, if it's anybody out
there that happened to that would stink, that that would
be awful. I would not want that to happen to me.
But again, let's let's take the let's take the police
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officer's perspective for a second. Okay, there is there's gunfire.
Guys gonna ask me about the police officers perspective. Though
you asked me how I felt, I understand. But because
that's what we're that's what we're prone to do, is
we're prone to think because it's Michael Bennett and because
or any human being, we don't actually think of the
police officers perspective. Look, and I'm again I'm against police
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brutal like the stuff you see in Baltimore where they're
planting evidence like that's disgraceful. You should never be a
police officer ever. Again, right, and I do wonder why
they teach police officers to shoot to kill always. I'm
sure they have a logic behind it. But there are
times in which there was a police there there was
a man in New York who was wielding a knife
who was shot. He was I was a woman who
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was shot and killed, but she was wheeling a knife,
Like why couldn't she just shoot her in the foot,
like I don't. I don't really know the answer to
why do you have to shoot her in the knee
when if she has a knife, she's coming after you
Just shoot her in the foot. She'll fall down, then
take the knife from her, Like, I don't know. That
seems easy to me. A lot of this is about
how they're trained, and I don't know what the reason is.
But what I'm saying is this to me, this is
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this is what it looks like when somebody is handcuffed.
This is how they do it. And I actually understand
a cops perspective of there's a wild scene after a fight,
guys go running. I don't know if they were looking
for a suspect. I don't I haven't heard from the place.
I don't know the logic behind why they stopped Michael Bennett,
what he said to get himself cuffed beforehand or whatever.
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I feel terrible because Michael Bennett is a dude who's like,
of all the people that you don't want to do
this too. This is the guy that's been trying to
call for social change. Right on the other hand, like
you're a cop, you don't know all this all you're
trying to do is get control of the scene. And
you're taught when you when you get somebody you might
suspect of a crime, you you have them laid down,
you put their knee in there, your back, and you
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tell them not to move because if they move, you
don't know what's in their pocket, you don't know what's
in their billfold, you don't know what's in their ankle.
And just like we haven't, we don't. We haven't lived
at cops life where they you make a mistake and
you allow somebody the freedom to go, no, hey, I wasn't.
Every guy they've ever arrested did says they weren't doing anything.
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Just just so we're aware. Every person who's ever it's
like they say in Shawshank Redemption, everyone in here is innocent, right, Like,
so I'm not saying that Michael Bennett was done right.
It was a case of mistaken identity, and it does
look bad. On the other hand, I also understand it's
a really hard job to be a police officer. And
everyone you ever put into handcuffs said he didn't do
anything wrong, and oh, please loosen up those please loosen
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up those uh, those those handcuffs. Well, I just like,
like my issue and I I agree with Like if
if someone, you know, broke into my house and there
was there was a there was a thief for a
robber that came into my house and the cops there
and came in and they brought the guy over, grabbed
him in the living room, and then pulled him aside
and started talking to him. I would be like, what
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in the world are you doing? You know, this guy
was just in our house, maybe had a weapon. I
would feel like, why wasn't he subdued or handcuffed? What?
I get all that, But we watch on high speed
chases in l A. When there's a car that's driving
for how many hours? And what happens. You've got eight
cops behind them. Now, there wasn't the number of cops
that you would have on a high speed chase, but
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it's the same thing. They cuff them up, they put
him on his back. When we know a guy has
been driving a hundred on the fifty seven for the
last hold on. Now they try and ram those cars
and when those guys hop out of the cars, they
beat the living hell out of those guys. I've I've
seen ones to where they're not. They're not. They don't
go like, okay, come sit in the cop car. They
beat the crap out of those guys, and they do.
Now they're also very cautious because they don't know if
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those guys have a gun, and they don't want them
to kill themselves. Right. So, but I I disagree with
you the idea that we see these high speed police chases,
where cuffs where where have you seen guys be handcuffed
on a daily basis? That's like, that's my that's my
point on it is. I don't my world. I don't understand.
This is what it looks like when somebody gets arrested.
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This is what it looks like. That's all you heard.
That's that. That's what it looks like when anybody gets
arrested on the street. It's it's a bad deal. It
looks like the was the James Blake thing in New York, right,
or James Blake was misidentified as a suspect and the
cops took him to the ground the top side to
apologize that it became this whole big thing. But I mean,
the fact was that the cop at the time, he
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they thought he fit the he fit the description of
a suspect in the area. I'm like, again, this is
this is the world that cops live in. This is
the world that cops live in. And I didn't say
it's okay, but they're trained for a reason. Ted Taylor,
he's woke on Twitter. I'll bet he's got ten thousand tweets.
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Pretty sure Gottlieb Show wishes he'd stop talking right now. No,
I'm talking from honest perspective. I feel bad for Michael
Bennett for being misidentified as a suspect, but I also
don't know, because I haven't heard from the police officers
why they handcuffed him to begin with, because I'm guessing
it's proper police procedure when you handcuffed somebody and they're
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laying on the ground, to put your knee in their
back so that they can't move, because that he could
physically overwhelm. Michael Bennett is a big dude, and if
he wasn't a super nice guy, he could beat the
crap out of a smaller police officer period. By the way,
the cop is not white this year, where so we
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don't know if he fits the description, we don't know
the reason behind it, and We never take into account
what why was the cop doing what he was doing,
and was he simply doing what he was trained, which,
by the way, ice Cube joined us from Las Vegas
and he was like, look, I think some of this
is police tactics, not the police themselves, how they're taught
to handle certain situations.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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