49ers Found Their Dude

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You're listening Boom, What Up America? Doug Gottlip Show, Fox
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of last night's upset by the l A Lakers over
the Houston Rockets, should give us some great action. We
got a lot to talk about today. I'm not sure
if you've been watching NFL has this show. It's called
Turning Point. NFL Networks show you guys, ever seen Turning Point?
I think that also runs on NBC Sports Network. Turning Point.
Turning Points a good one and it's NFL films, which

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all of us love. It's miked up players, which all
of us love, and it talks about some of the
key moments in the key games from the past weekend.
And it takes a couple of days for them to
produce it, cut it up, edit it, put it out,
and uh we taught with the Garrett Selic It was,
of course the tight end of the San Francisco for

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the Niners that yesterday was the day for us two
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wherever you download podcast. I thought he was fantastic, really
interesting talk about the change in the culture there and
the change uh specifically with Jimmy Garoppolo. But Garoppolo's miked

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up for the last drive what led to the game
winning field goal for their third consecutive win against the
Tennessee Titans. And there's so much good stuff in there,
so much If you haven't seen it, you go to Twitter,
you go online, you'll be able to find it's really

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really interesting. And I even liked the way in which
it's packaged right because at first he's talking to field
goal kicker Robbie Gold and he's like, what yard line
and he's like thirty seven. He's like all right, And
then it shows them going out there and he first
he's talking to the offensive lineman talk to each other,
let's go a little kind of motivational stuff, goes into

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the huddle, quick little short speech and then three straight completions,
then clock clock, clock clocks. The football. They kicked the
field goal, they win it, but then it goes back
and he gets super interesting where you see that in
the in the progress of time. First he goes in
and he talks to his quarterback coach and says, take

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me through the two minutes row. Then he goes to
each wide receiver, each receiver, one tight end, sell like
who caught the ball and not only tells them what
the Tennessee Titans are doing and where they'll be open
over the middle of the field, but how specifically to
get open. And then he does it. Take a listen.

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This is Jimmy Garoppolo, quarterbacks himpacist n rich Can you
run me two minutes? Calls a lot, talking to each other,
communicating what we saw out there, and it helps us
in the next drive. You don't think crush the first down.
I felt in this situation. You're running runs, they can't
handle your quickness that they're trying to grab you and
just hit him off you and you'll be fine. We

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want to hit the middle because they're safety, they're super wise.
Slip them and look as you're like slipping them, because
I'll bang it on you. Because he has to turn
his hips. The safeties are so deeper you're gonna get
an out of ten twelve yards. I'll bend you across
a little bit. If he's playing on top of you, though,
you can do one of these and then go just
feel it out be a football player. And he was
talking to Marquis Goodwin with that last one, who of

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course caught the catch which got them into field goal range.
It wasn't it. The precision of what they're going to do,
what you you're gonna run, what I'm gonna call, and
how specifically you're gonna get open and when I'm going
to throw the ball was in edible. Incredible, Uh, which

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leads me to a couple of thoughts. First, the San
Francisco for the Niners have found themselves a dude, right,
A dude. One of the things that I learned I
kind of instinctively new because quarterback and point guard in
basketball are are one and kind of the same in
many ways in which you see things before they happen.

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You have to relate to your teammates who can't necessarily
see it. They're not of a point of view in
which they can see it, but you have to tell
them or give them a sense of what's coming, and
it is. It's a it's a neck up position as
much as it's a neck down position. Yes, you have
to be able to throw a football, but if you
saw those three throws, they weren't terribly difficult throws, although

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he was ridiculously precise. It's knowing what they're running, knowing
who's gonna be open, knowing exactly when to release the ball,
when to throw the ball, more so than how hard,
how far you throw out, how athletic you are. Let's
be honest. Tom Brady raised a pregnant woman last week,
came in third. That's how slow he is. He's forty
years old. He can still do it. Why, it's a

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neck up position as much as the neck down position.
But one of the things that that Phil Simms told
me when I work for Phil Simms was he said,
you know, when you walk in to meet a quarterback,
you shake their hand, you know right away if they're
a quarterback, Like, well, what does that mean? I mean,
look at Jimmy Garoppolo, like he looks he's slightly better

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looking than most of the football players. He has a
presence about him, and they instinctively make you believe what
they're saying will come to fruition. Joe Staley, long time
left tackle San Francisco for the Niner, is very calm, collected, focused.
Not to say that wasn't here before, but it definitely

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has been a different aura around him. Were excited about him.
It's fun to block for him. Look, a good quarterback
makes you look like a much better coach, much better coach,
and a bad quarterback makes you look like a far
inferior coach to the reality of Marquis Goodman. We practice

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good one. We practice those situations every week. We were
prepared for. We knew what we were going to do.
There was no panic. He took control of the huddle,
knew exactly what we needed to set us, set us
up for at least get a field goal position or
get a touchdown. That's exactly what happened. Good quarterback changes
everything changes that the complete outlook of your franchise, makes

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every gives everybody hope, makes you play harder, makes receivers
run routes more crisply because they think if they do,
they're going to get the football, makes Lyman want to
block for him. It's really it has really been incredible.
This is Kyle uh just Sick, who of course is
their fullback. He stopped in day one and his own way,

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commit his own way to command respect. We all saw
that he was preparing himself, and we he went about business.
He's a phenomenal leader. Now there is another takeaway that
I'm not sure I've heard anybody mentioned. Is anybody else
quietly or maybe loudly disappointed the Tennessee Titans? Right? The

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Titans were in too deep safeties, playing super wide apparently
most of the day, and they made no adjustment during
the game. Like as much as we want to think
football has all these numbers and stats and analytics and
interesting ways of looking, the fact is they stuck to
the same too deep, too deep, uh too deep zone

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that they had been in most the entire day. Garoppolo
knew it, saw it. They made no adjustment. He simply
did and shredded him on three straight pass plays. I'm
not gonna sit here and and pick apart Jimmy Garoppolo,
who looks like the real deal and dramatically has change.
The forty Niners who only had to give up a
second round pick, they got a bunch of picks. They

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only had to give up a second round pick. They
will have to give him a sizeable contract here in
the off season, but they only had to give up
a second to get a franchise caliber quarterback. Uh. But
how about the Titans not doing anything which makes you think, boy,

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that that coaching staff is not really ahead of the curve.
They're kind of stuck in. Hey, you know it's worth
good enough so far, let's stick with it. And that's
a team that will likely be eliminated early in the
playoffs if in fact they hold on and make the playoffs.
And then the last part is, I know we have

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this sense that others who have worked with Bella Chicken,
Brady Hoyer, who is their starting quarterback to start the
year Niners I'm talking about Matt Castle, of course, gets
brought up Um. Ryan Mallett, for example, has not succeeded
when he's gone elsewhere. Jacoby Brissette has had some limited

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success when they've been able to block form, although he's
playing with a terrible team in Indianapolis. This is one
of those deals to where um studying under a master
has in fact prepared Garoppolo for this moment. Didn't that feel,
didn't that sense, didn't you get the aura of a
Tom Brady sort of clone in watching the way that

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Jimmy Garoppolo went about his business. So while so many
um we're are concerned or desirous to get the next
young star in the upcoming NFL draft, and maybe there
are limitations to guys who are backups, there is something

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to learning from the master and being able to understand
and how to lead, how to prepare and how to
be ready for when your time comes. And if you
look around the National Football League, yeah, this might be
the year of Jared Goff and his failures into success,
and it was Carson Wentz before he ultimately got hurt.

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But look at how many of these backups have been
well traveled backups foals case Keenum for example, and have
prepared themselves for this moment and have learned through trial
and error and learned from others they've played behind, how
to how to be prepared for that situation, how to lead,

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and how to win. I don't know, I was, I was.
I was just blown away by That's like the whole
reasoning logic behind that sort of TV show. And it
makes me think even more so that the Seattle Seahawks
are doomed. The Niners are set. They got a ton
of draft picks, they've got a smart coaching staff, they've
got a smart general manager, and they got great history
of success. I think Arizona's in rebuild, Seattle's and rebuild,

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and it's gonna be Rams and Niners in the foreseeable
future in that division. But I was equally blown away,
or almost in an embarrassing way, appalled by the fact
that Tennessee Titans did exactly what they had been doing
all afternoon long, and they got shredded by a quarterback
who appears to be ready to lead a franchise back
to prominence. We'll ask Brian Baldinger what what he's seen.

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Plus I want to ask Baldy about all the dysfunction
within the Pittsburgh Steelers organization if that ultimately holds this
team back. Brian Baldinger form the NFL network where join us.
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(12:30):
you thought Zeke Elliott couldn't handle his UH suspension any worse,
I think, yeah, I think he stopped it. So Zeke
Elliott is back with Dallas Cowboys. He met with the
media for the first time yesterday since being reinstated by
the league, and he said he didn't want to talk
about the suspension, only about the upcoming week. Take a

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listen to the back and forth between he and the
local media. Um Starting to pay is a new chapter,
and you know, I just want to I'm gonna thank
you know this Cowboy organization for being behind me. Thanks
for my family and my team and my friends for
h just supporting me through the time. And you know
expects you to the Cowboys fans who stuck by me

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through this tough time and uh having on faith in me.
But you know, I'm not talking about anymore. There's gonna
be the last time you hear me speak about it,
so please don't even ask me about it. What was
the reception like coming back at this It was great,
you know, the energy was high. I missed all the guys,
they missed me, and we're excited to continue this season. Okay,

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you're not gonna talk about the prospect. I can't talking
about what you get in the last six weeks. No,
what about the documentary? And what message do you want
to through the documentary? Just watch it? Equals tell me
the message you get out. I don't know. Can you
talk about at least what when it's some of your conditioning.
I'm ready to talk about the Seattle Seahawks. I'm ready

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talk what the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not speaking on it anymore.
Why is it that you don't want to talk about that?
It's like it's like offended for no reason. Guy, right,
you know the guys like, yo, man, that's offensive, Like
what exactly was offensive? Like I don't want to talk
about like no one asked you about your ex girlfriend

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or about the NFL. They asked you about your conditioning,
which of course is part of the documentary right where
he lost weight, he's get in shape. He went to Cobbo.
It's kind of like, kind of interesting, but like this
is defensive or offended for no reason guy, which which
really I don't understand. I don't Maybe Brian Baldinger can
help his former offensive lineman, of course works for the

(14:38):
NFL network. You fall on Twitter, you get the Baldi's
breakdowns and which he used the all twenty two footage
to teach you about football, all the things that that
we miss just because we're watching on red zone and
things happened so fast, Baldi, can you figure out exactly
what Ezeki Elliott would be upset about? And those that
line of questioning, well, good afternoon, dog, I read to

(14:58):
change to him, yes today, you know when the interview
took place, and don't you know, I guess he just
didn't you know, I mean, it's at some level about
to answer, you know, the questions that he knew he
was gonna be pressed on it. Um. You know, the
cowboy has got a great pr staff. You know the
collections that will come, and he knows them. Um, if

(15:19):
you didn't want to talk about the past six weeks
and what you did under the suspension, then you shouldn't
agree attended doing any interviews. Um. But that's that's his
progative to some level. But you know, there is if
you could put a documentary out there about what you've
been doing, then that also opens up a line of

(15:40):
question that should follow. And Uh, I don't know he uh,
he just got short, you know about the whole thing
and decided not to do anything. And maybe he just
wants his performance this weekend to do all the talk
to you for him. Um. How good are the Dallas Cowboys?
I mean there's a look they need a lot of
help in order to make the play payoffs as well

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as to win their last two games. When you watch
him on tape, uh, you know, and you you add
in the factor they'll add Ezeki Elliott. Does that look
and feel like a team that if they got in
they could make a run in the playoffs. Well, I
mean you could make a case here that you know,
Ezekiel Elliott is the m d P of the late
because the team completely fell apart with out of them,
and they were a pretty good team with them um

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and who he were, they were really getting to finding
the stride, uh until the point where you were suspended.
So you've seen that Dad is a good quarterback, but
he would be a very good quarterback when Ezekiel ellis
running the football. They have been a fractured offensive line
up front. They've had injuries throughout, especially Tyland Smith. He's

(16:44):
been in that the lineup now Georgia's stretch and they
were just not as good. I mean I started when
they played Atlanta Falcons and Dak Prescott was sacked you know,
eight or nine times that day. So if they could,
if they could keep the offensive line together and reasonably
healthy with Dak Prescott and with Ezekoe out in THEA
they have tens six it ten six might be good enough,

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depending on all the things that have to happen to
get in the playoffs. If they get in the playoffs,
I think it's gonna be the best NFC you know,
tournament that we've ever seen. UM And so if they
get in, they could be just as dangerous as Philadelphia
or Minnesota, or Los Angeles or New Orleans. Brian Baldinger
joining us in the Doug Outlip Show here on Fox

(17:29):
Sports Radio. The rams that felt like a beating, Like
that felt like just a whooping. And that's the second
straight whooping at the line of scrimmage that the Seahawks
have seen. If you're rebuilding the Seahawks, do you say, look,
we're just injured. Once we get everybody back, we're okay,

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or do you start seriously considering um hitting kind of
reset and starting over. Well, you know, one thing if
you have to do in this league, and the Seahawks
on standards because they've owned the NFC West for a
long time, but if you're gonna compete right now with
the Ramps MC West, you gotta figure out a way
to block Aaron Donald. I mean, he's single handily ruined

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the Seahawks offense. You know, one guy and two guys
couldn't block him on any different play. And you know,
if I'm looking to rebuild the Seahawks and at some
level they have to, they have to address this offensive line.
They can't pass work it, they can't just go make
trades the middle season, or you know, go get high
priced free agents. I mean they got to really rebuild better,

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figure out a way to find the guard or guards
that could block Aaron Donalds and at least give his
quarterback a chance that it catch the snap and at
least look down the field before he's under sea. And
he was under the seas literally every play by Aaron
donald Brian Baldinger joining us in the Dug out Them
show here on Fox Sports Radio, trying to figure out

(18:55):
the Jaguars. Uh, they were very talented up front on
both sides of the football, especially on defense. Uh, without
without Leonard Fournette, they still dominated. And then the numbers
are supporting the fact that Blake Bortles is improving as
a quarterback. But you watch tape, you see the game
at a far higher level than the rest of us.
What are your thoughts on Bordles and that offense heading

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into the postseason. Well, I just announced that game last weekend,
that that Houston Jacksonville game in Jacksonville last weekend, So
I was around the team for a good port and
really kind of studied them for the last month. That
Blake Borders is simply getting better I mean, there's not
one analyst out there that's supposed to know this this
business and could tell you the three receivers that lined

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up for Jacksonville last week when Mark Easley went down.
There's not one. I mean, you better you know know
who Keeling Cole is and jade On you know, and
you know D. D. Westbrook. You better do your homework.
And that's who Blake portals the phone to his throws
last weekend. You break them down anyway you want hands,
some great throws and he's poised right now. He's been accurate. Uh,

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he went and worked with Tom House this allseason. Is
mechanics are better. He's an improved player. Um you if
you look at the statistics, just the staff page right now,
and you look at Jacksonville their number one in the
league and more categories and you can almost look at
any team in in in the last ten years, you know,

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from red zone defense to total defense, to takeaways two
interceptions to you know, running the football, I mean the
turnover ratio. I'm gon number one of every one of
those categories. Red zone defense and a lot of those
categories are you know, the type of categories that if
you lend the league got a good chance of doing

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well the playoffs. There are a good football team. This
Cam Robinson that they got in the second round to
Alabama looks I mean, he looks all worldly at left
tackle right now. The center is really good. They just
won last week without Leonard for nett They've won three
times this year without Leonard for nett Um, so they're
not totally relying on him. Blake Mortals is played well

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and that was the real key ingredient to the team
because the defense is for real. They they can get
after your quarterback. Uh. The big game obviously the weekend
was the Steelers and the Patriots. Um, it's interesting. I'm
sure you've seen by now the video of Jimmy Garoppolo
and not just the two minute drill, but the preparation
for the two minute drill, the conversations he was having

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on the sideline. What should we take away from the
dysfunction within the Pittsburgh Steelers offense right where we now
have sounded Mike Tomlin saying give him a play, run
the play, and you have Ben Roethlisberger even afterwards saying like, yeah,
I didn't want to run a play, I want to
clock it. And being accountable for the interception but not
accountable for the route that was run. What's your take

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on what went wrong for the Steelers? Well, I think
it's precific because we don't often get the seed about
just what it's like in constant, in real stressful clunch
time of what takes place. I mean up against the cart.
You know, you got a playoff game taking place, that's

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gonna decide the a FC picture for the both part,
who's gonna lee the one of the Confidence Conference Championships day? Okay,
all that is on the line, and in the space
of thirty seconds, you're seeing really through the quarterback size,
the coach's eyes, through the lanes here, uh descision nazing,

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the level of decision nation has to be made in
real time, and sometimes how difficult it is even for
teens experienced as the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I just think
it's interesting to me to really let it all out
like that, because it was like a you know, in
that thirty seconds, there's a whole documentary about all these
different things that go in to one decision. In this case,

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the Pittsburgh Steelers lost the games on that decision. Um
the like the Patriots go from looking awful without Rob
Gronkowski to looking unstoppable with Rob Grenkowski, which is the
real Patriots as we get ready for the for the playoffs. Well, well,
as you said the h I mean, they can go

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to seches where they don't look very talented and they
don't look very good, and then all of a sudden
they could just come to and and they could just
put together a great drive and every ball can go
to Gronkowski nectually. You know, they're running left behind him
as he literally blocks the font to it, you know,
and you know they're gonna see on Lewis boards getting

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touchdown and they have a two point version, you know,
and then wins. But he is an elite player, Rob Gronkowski,
and all these things that people want to say, well,
that's up night there, Okay, why is he? Well, no
one or two people can really cover them. He's really uncoverable.
There's no other player like them in this league. Nobody

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can line up at why receiver dominant it out there.
Nobody can line up right next to the tackle and
dominating the running games like he can, the way that
they motioned them and move them, and where you can't
set a double team to him. There's just there's just
no other players quite like Rob Glennows and he's just

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a tiplate staker and the Patriots are lucky to have him.
Who's the most dangerous team in the playoffs out of
that NFC South You gotta pick one that you think
is most likely to make a run the playoffs. Who
is it? Well, I mean if you start just with
the quarterback. All right, you know what Caroline is playing
ways of football right now, they've got the tight games.

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They also back and they looked like you know three
they put stop at us and that was a playoff
game for tactics. He he helps it off and said,
now has Kim running the football the way did two
years ago, and they can throws the guys like the
peer Bird who nobody heard of before, the way he
did when he was the under two. Hey, if you

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look is New Orleans. They've got a Super Bowl n
D two quarterback in three breeze And if you put
the ball in his in it at the end of
the game, you're not gonna win the game. And then
you know that Ryan shows you just the other night
that he's still capable of I mean, all three of
those teams right now with their quarterbacks are capable of
winning the whole tournament in the NFC because their quarterbacks

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to play at that level. And we have seen him
play at that level. And if you're trying to defend
any of those teams right now, it's the it's real.
The defense against him. You're saying, you hold your back.
You might not hold your breath against the Poles like
why they played very well last week, and you might
not hold your breath against Kings team and maybe even

(25:44):
in Los Angeles as well as the way that you
know they played. But I know that every defense hears
only one of those three quarterbacks in the NFC South
right now. Fantastic stuff. Follow them on Twitter, you get
all these breakdowns, watches work on the NFL network. He's
Brian Baldinger. He joins us as often as he is
possibly able here on the Doug Outlip Show. Baldi having

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world sports table. What he got, Doug, thank you very much,
New and Saints a place defensive bank. Kenny of a
car on injured reserve he's done for the season with
a groin issue. And speaking of groin concerns, Redskins tail
back Somaj p Ryan left practice today with a groin injury.
No word yet on his status for this weekend. NFL
Fisional has got a little bit of a word today

(26:49):
and from the head of officials in the league not
to use folding note cards on first down measurements anymore.
As of what happens Sunday night football between Dallas and Oakland,
Green May Packers wanting re siever Davanta Adams out this
weekend because of a concussion, Seattle Seahawks for find one
hundred thousand dollars for filling a fall concussion protocol with
Russell Wilson on the way back in a week Number

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ten Dolphins winding receiver Davanta Parker MSS practice today because
of a bad ankle, and Falcons running back Tevin Coleman
is out of concussion protocol, so it looks like he'll
be a go this weekend. In the NBA, Chris Paul
won't play Friday because of a groin injury. It's against
the Clippers Celtics. Jalen Brown is questionable tonight for Boston.
When they saw it left Achilles Doug you know, look,

(27:32):
uh oh, go in the city. Look good. Last night
they held a Jazz to nine points in the first quarters.
You gutta see that nine points in the first quarter.
But but I've I've tried to tell people I was
even when I was in New York, I tried to
tell people that as much as you might not have
liked Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson was doing what everybody in
the NBA thought he should do. Like the only flaw

(27:54):
to what Phil Jackson did with Carmelo Anthony was that
a game of no trade clause when he first find
them to a contract extension after barely being on the job.
Recent piece from ESPNS Ian uh Ian Bagley gave some
insights into the toxic culture plagued that plagued the Knicks organization,
much of which was pinned on mellow one source. Everybody

(28:15):
was on board and with trying to get rid of Mellow.
The feeling in meetings was almost unanimous. They felt he
just wasn't a winning player. They thought they could turn
everything around if they just moved him. While it's not
exactly shocking, in some ways Anthony showcased his indifference. Are

(28:37):
the ways in which he showcases indifference pretty amusing. Among
his tactics taking naps during Jackson's instructural instructional mindfulness meditation
training with Jackson previously used both the Lakers and the
Bulls to help calm themselves in the high pressure and
vaulatile situations. During the session, Jackson instructed the Knicks to
sit on the edge of their chairs, close their eyes,

(28:58):
count ten, breathing in and out, and the objective was
to clear their mind. They repeated the process several times.
Some players were dutiful in the exercise, some were indifferent,
some were dacked downright mocking of its worth. Team members
said as Jackson's relationship with Anthony deteriorated, so did Melo's
commitment to mindfulness training. He would tilt his head back,

(29:18):
I shut seemingly snoozing. I mean, I don't know what
you need to say the Knicks are in better shape
with inferior talent even without Tim Hardaway Jr. Who's been
out with injury, and the Oklahoma City Thunder on paper
have way better talent and are not consistently winning games.

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What do you need to see? Like? There was nothing
to me more Carmelo Anthony than this past Sunday night.
They welcome back Melow with open arms, and the Knicks
won the game without him and without Heartaway. Some guys
are just not winners or just not capable of leading.
And it doesn't mean that you have to become a

(30:00):
yogi when he asked you to be mindful, but to
completely dismiss it, to fall asleep, to mock it, and
be the leader of an almost revolt of something that
you know, what's the worst thing that could happen. You
get a chance to calm yourself before games. It's the
opposite of leadership. It's it's why, with the exception of

(30:24):
six games in March on a miraculous run, that dude
hadn't won anything. Bub Kiss, Like you want to talk
about the n c A tournament creating, creating fictitious images
of who somebody is. I give you Carmelo Anthony leading
the Orange to a national championship. I mean they were

(30:47):
down sixteen Oklahoma State in the second round. Should have
been beaten in Boston Garden, should have been beaten, didn't
get out of it. That doesn't all of a sudden
make him a winning player. I mean, you want to
talk about you want to talk about getting hustled, the
idea that Carmelo Anthony is still a star player. His

(31:09):
skill set offensively is mostly isolation basketball inside the three
point line. There's a reason that breed of player is
dying because it's no longer valued. And then defensively, he's
a diverse defender, and he's like, well he can't he
can't can't guard that guy. No, no, he can't guard anybody.

(31:29):
You can't guard the point. You can't guard to two,
you can't go to three, you can't go to four,
gig or the five. You know, so, in addition to
some of the athletically limited fact, and you can't not
guard anybody for ten years and then all of a
sudden go like, now now I'm gonna play defense. Just
habits are built, and in your body is built and

(31:51):
your mind is built in a certain way, but now,
even when he does have the desire to do so,
he seemingly seems completely incapable in capable of doing so.
Guess who wants the giants to pass on both Sam
Donald and Josh Rosen in this year's draft. I'll tell
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and much much of the country. I hope you and
yours are having a safe and marry everything. I hope

(32:35):
you get everything you want. UH nearly had a exposure
of our elf to human hands last night. Luckily, what
my youngest my son thought he saw, it clearly did
not see. And so I believe we're still good there. Um,

(32:57):
Charlie the Elf safe and sound with his normal hijinks,
as many of your elves on the shelves have had
their own hijinks and UH, and we continue to await
his trip back to the North Pole to alert Santa
that the kids have been good this year. I just
want to make sure you updated you that what my
son thought he saw he did clearly did not see.

(33:19):
It's very, very important. This is game tied on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. David gascon joins us David what he
got today. Let's tack in this bag. We got guess, Doug,
it's time. So we got a guess who thinks The

(33:40):
New York Giants should pass on both Josh Rosen and
Sam Donald in the draft because they're confident Davis Webb
is their quarterback of the future. And I'll give you
a hint. It's actually two players. Well, actually I was
gonna say two players. I think um is he Crow?
Is it? Rogers Camar? And then um somebody else is

(34:03):
on defense. You know, clearly great evaluators of football town,
Landing Collins and the other Landing Collins, believe or not.
The New York Post had some quotes from both of
these players. First off, for Collins, he said, quote, don't
draft him, don't do it. Davis Webb is gonna be
really good in the league when it's time, I promise
you that end quote. And Rogers Kramarty. He added, Nah,

(34:26):
I think Webb's the guy. He has the arm, He's
studied under Eli, so I think he still has an
opportunity to be the guy. End quote. I mean it
was someone we gotta see, like, when are they gonna
play him a little? According to team sources, he's been
getting first team reps this week with the ball club,
so maybe this weekend. It's gotta be this weekend. We

(34:47):
gotta see him in two, two consecutive weekends to see
kind of what he's got. Look, I'm not I'm not
closing the book on David's Webb. But like Davis Webb,
guy who started his career at a Texas Tech then
because of injury, he ended up beating getting getting beat
out by hat Mahomes. He transferred to Cal and put
up all kinds of numbers at Cal and now having
a chance to kind of red shirt this year. But
we gotta see it wouldn't be the dumbest thing in

(35:09):
the world. I just the idea, you know, I I
understand what you're saying, but sometimes the inability to just say, like, look,
they're obviously gonna be looking at quarterbacks a lot of
let me just tell you. I've watched Davis Webb play
and I think he's an NFL quarterback. I really think
he's just started quoting like that's all you need to say.
You don't need to say don't draft a certain guy.
That just makes you sound foolish. Alright, let's take a

(35:30):
look a number two guests. Who is reportedly the next
Kennate to interview for the New York Giants general manager position.
That's not bad. He actually did interview today, according to
the New York Giants. Now, Riddick is an interesting factor
because he wanted to bring along Josh McDaniels in a
package you'll last year with the San Francisco forty niners,

(35:50):
and that might be the case this year as well.
Speculation with Riddick because that he'd want Patriots offensive corner
Josh McDaniels as the head coach of hee has hired.
Riddick actually said back in February that he was very
very very close to getting hired by San Francisco for
the GM part, but McDaniels did not want to leave
the Patriots at that time. Look, I think I think

(36:13):
Lewis Reddick is in. I mean, look what John Lynch
has been able to do with no front office experience
in San Francisco, coming from TV there, Like, I think
this is me. Look, this is the conversation I had
with people when I interviewed for basketball jobs, Like would
you prefer me to be sitting on somebody's bench, watching
somebody else coach and helping along with that process, or
I can see the entire landscape of the sport and

(36:33):
have a different sort of feel, maybe not be better feel.
I would say it's a better feel. But you know,
Lewis Reddick, he's not locked in on just one team.
He's locked in on the entire league. And while why
there will while there will be some catching up to do,
he's already been in front offices. You hire people who
who know what you don't know, and be willing to
admit what you don't know, and you'll be fine. Uh.

(36:57):
And of course he's he'd be great with pr good
with the media. I don't think he'd be one of
these guys who's one guy with the media and then
another guy when he gets a job. Should be interesting.
We'll see now Number three guests who in the NFL,
when asked about their future in the league after the
season said, quote, I haven't thought about it. That stuff
will be a concern of mind when the season's over.

(37:17):
End quote who said this, yes, repeat the quote. The
quote is I haven't thought about it. That stuff will
be a concerned mine. Nope. Down South. Jake Cutler is
the man. He said, I haven't thought about it. You know,
I'm focused on Kansas City. That stuff will be a

(37:38):
concern of mind when the season is over. And quote, now,
as you know what, Jake Cutler, he signed a one
year deal worth a nice cool ten million dollars as
opposed to joining someone the broadcast booth with Fox. Yeah.
Look it was five plus five in incentives. Don't know
how much he's that he's going to reach. Um. I
would say this is his last season playing football again.
Not a bad year though, two thousand three D, seventy

(37:59):
six yards, eight teen tds, four team picks, and passer
rating of eighty six. They beat the Patriots this season,
so not too bad moving forward. Guests, who was receiving
trash cans as a Christmas gift from angry Jaguar fans?
Trash cans from me? Michael Bennett, what's the Who's the
other Seattle Seahawk who got stopped thrown at him. Uh

(38:23):
who used to Texans defensive Jadeveon Clowney. He was calling
Blake Portles trash after the Jacksonville Jaguars hammered the Texans
forty five to seven, And of course some of the
fans took the social media. They were posting pictures buying
trash cans and mailion out to the address for d
Avon Clowneys. So he's receiving some early gifts in tis

(38:43):
the season for giving those things away. It's not bad.
I love it though, where like Jacksonville Jaguar fans don't
believe in Blake Portals. But the second the Jadeveon Clowney
says he doesn't believe in Blake Portals, they get all mad.
Only I can cuss out Blake portals. When he throws
an untime Leander's sception, well's see it happens. Can play
out time guests. Who was fined one hundred thousand dollars

(39:06):
for filling a follow concussion protocol Seahawks. It's Ryant the
Seahawks for five of the league today one hundred thousand
dollars for looking back. We're looking across Russell Wilson's treatment
and concussion protocol all the way back in Week number
ten against the Arizona Cardinals. This is game time on

(39:26):
the Duck Gottli Show. So Jake Cutler has done for
two thousand, three hundred seventy four yards, that is twenty
five in the league. In the league, Jay Cutler has
thrown fourteen interceptions, that is tied for second in the league.
So it's one of those things where you're like, oh,

(39:46):
he could pass her three thousand yards, Like, yeah, he
would still be one of the worst quarterbacks in the
NFL playing for an offensive mind is head coach in
the NBA draft. Everybody's trying to do something that you're
supposed to do in baseball but you shouldn't do in basketball.
Boo oh, what up America? Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio,
Coming from the beautiful city of Sonny in Los Angeles, California,

(40:09):
where the Lakers took down the Rockets last night. Not
sure if you're aware. And the story of the game
was Kyle Coosema Kyle Kuzsmaku's at thirty eight points. And
I was asked a question earlier today on the Colin

(40:32):
Cowhard Show The Heard with Colin Cowherd. Um, that's a
great question. Why have so many of these second round
picks late first round picks? Why have these guys slipped,
Guys that are second, third, fourth year, fifth year in college?
Why did those guys slip through the cracks and other
players are drafted earlier. It's a great question. Here's what

(40:57):
I want to do. I have the answer to the question.
I believe I have the answer. I think there's a
couple of answers, but there's actually a really easy one.
First up, John Ramos, why do you think that is well?
I think it's because a lot of the players that
you see draft in the top are given so much
hype and press that it's almost like it's just inevitable

(41:20):
that they have to be picked in the top ten.
Mm hm, okay, he's going, he's going hype. And what
about you, Ryan Music? Why would you say that so
many of these um guys that are two, three, four,
five and done players are taken later in the draft.
I think it's because they've allowed themselves more time to

(41:42):
actually develop, so you're seeing them as the player that
they are. But why would they go later in the draft?
Well they go later in the draft because people sort
of see them as a known commodity and they don't know,
they don't think there's any more growth there. It's just

(42:02):
sort of that's what it is. And so they may
not think that that's uh, they don't have the full
upside of other players. Yeah, I would say, I would say, like, look,
let me simplify for you. I think everybody you know,
it's it's one of those deals to where um, one

(42:24):
of those deals to where you're so consumed with not
wanting to miss on on a guy who's a a
the next superstar, Right, You're so consumed by that that
you end up missing a single or a double. But

(42:45):
there's lots of rom com movies are like this, Right,
You're so concerned with the ten that you don't realize
the girl who's been injury the whole time is much
more stable, a much better fit for your own personality,
and truth be told, in five or ten years, she's
going to be better looking than the girl who's who

(43:05):
looks better now not gonna age well, right, I mean
the perfect example is a Malik Monk or is Zach Collins.
Like Zach Collins, I think has a chance to be
a really good player playical on Zaga for one year,
was the first one and done. Um, but you watch

(43:26):
Kyle Kuzma, who's twenty two years old, who is developed,
and you you convince yourself that Kyle Kuzma is a
double and Malik Monk could be a home run. That's
really what you can convince yourself up. You know, here's

(43:47):
a guy who was he had he had great issues,
so he didn't play his first year in college, spent
three years playing in college, and uh is a what
you would call a young twenty two year old January
July birthday, and so you've convinced yourself this guy he
may not have topped out, but he's closer to topping

(44:09):
out than a nineteen year old player. The biggest flaw
in that, I mean first is I guess the most
reasonable flaws. I look, a nineteen to year old, you're
gonna develop and you're gonna change who you are much
more so than two to twenty four. So that's looking
for the home run instead of looking for the double.

(44:31):
The biggest flaw to that, though, is that people are
so concerned with how a player will play in their
second contract that they're not. You might not have them
in your second contract. You might not want them in
your second contract. And I'll grant you, you don't win.
You don't win NBA championships on guys in their first contract.
It's guys in their second, third contracts. But I'm convinced

(44:53):
that in addition to being tweener size, almost all of
them are tweener size. Who's no more in the six seven,
six eight variety, And where he's at his best is
now at the power forward position that the small power
forward the stretch for if you will, and uh, I'm
convinced that people thought, yeah, he's closer to topping out,

(45:16):
he's a double, why not swing for a home run
in a Zach Collins who is eventually three years from now,
he could be better than Kuzma. But here's the thing,
why wait? Why wait? So it's it's going to be
fascinating to see how this or if this ever changes

(45:41):
how we view prospects in the in the draft. Look.
It's it's also hard to do in rating college basketball players.
Do you guys watch Walford going beat North Carolina on
the road last night? That was cool? That was really cool.
And some of this college basketball has changed, Like Luke
May has been the leading school or for North Carolina

(46:02):
this this year. Luke May was I think I preferred
walk on at North Carolina when he got there. He's
been a great story in terms of improvement, but it
also signifies how limited veteran player, how many, how limited
we are in terms of quality veteran players playing college basketball.
If Luke May at North Carolina is your leading score,

(46:24):
that doesn't say a lot for the normally comploaded talented
North Carolina clubs. Like basketball has just changed, completely changed,
But I think it's the it's the baseball mentality. Why
I hit a single when you can hit home run?

(46:45):
And uh I do that? I like the two cows
and the two two bulls on top of you know,
looking down in the pasture right the young cow wants
to run down the old houses. Let's walk. You know
the story Yest eight seven seven nine nine on Foxes
the phone number eight seven seven nine nine Fox Yeah music,

(47:07):
what's up? So do you think that there will ever
come a point though that players will then think there's
a little bit more benefit to just staying in school
longer because they don't have as much pressure to to
perform right away and that they are farther along, so
they don't have that because part of what can lead
to a player not performing is the whole mental makeup.

(47:28):
I mean, we're starting to see like Lonzo Balls finally
starting to get some like confidence. Now granted it only
took him, however, thirty something games that were into the
season now, But do they want to put off going
to the draft so that they can develop more and
they know they're better suited to actually succeed in the
NBA right when they get there. Yeah, I don't. I

(47:50):
don't under I don't understand the Look, here's what happens.
The logic is behind why you go is you you're you're,
You get to your second contract more quickly, and that's
when you make life changing, life changing money. Right. The
flaw in that is the contract is going to likely

(48:10):
be smaller than you would have thought. Now, look, we've
had guys that don't have particularly good starts to their
career that end up in their contract year having a
good year and getting crazy, crazy money. But I'm with you, like,
I would much better be refined. I would much rather
have you know, don't don't go on don't just start
doing stadium those are doing a stadium tour as a

(48:32):
band until you have two albums, right, I mean, I
remember I went to see, uh, Zach Brown, Zack Brown Band.
You guys like Zach Brown Band. Zach Brown Band has
a you know, they they've toured I think with Fish,
They've toured with Dave Matthews, and they kind of do
that Fish and Dave Matthews thing where every song goes

(48:54):
for like twenty minutes. You're like, Okay, let's get to
the next one, right. I appreciate that they are very
good musicians. I should point out that Zach Brown Band
is one of the collectively one of the ugliest bands
ever formed. Like those are remarkable musicians, equally remarkable how
bad looking all of them? Most of them are. They're

(49:15):
just not good looking fellas. I'm sure none of them
have any problem in the female category because they're musicians,
and only kind of proves my point about musicians. But
I I went to see their first concert tour after
their first album. I love their music, and you're like, oh,
we're gonna play a new one off our new album,

(49:36):
like we don't know this, Like they had like three
songs that people knew and that's about it. Now you
go see it now and they've got a great catalog
that good musicians, and they still go too long. You're like, look,
I get it. You want to give me my money's
worth and play for three and a half hours. I
just don't want each song to feel like you're stretching
to play for three and a half hours. Almost. Do

(49:56):
you like going to see in bands that that that
play it? Now? If if I could almost get the
sound of the c D like the actual song, the
two minutes and fifty seconds, That's what I'm looking for,
because that's what I that's what I like about the group.
It's like, oh, I love that song, let me hear
that song, and then it goes off in some tangent.
I'm like, yeah, I also, I'm I'm with you, though
I also want the song to be played as recorded.

(50:19):
I want to be played live, but I wanted to
be played as recorded. Does that Does that sound crazy? No?
I think it's right on. In fact, if you want
to if that song was so good and that's why
it's we love it, then just give me it again,
but just live right. I mean, why would I want
if you do a song another way that it probably
wouldn't be as I paid money to hear that song,
the number one. I want to hear that song as

(50:41):
I thought that song should be presented. That's correct. John
does not want any ad living give me the studio version. Yeah,
I mean you can go a little living, so I
know it's live, but for the most part, I want
to hear the regular the regular song. I'm not wrong.
I'm not wrong, and that why music you want to
hear you You don't mind if people break off and
do some jam session within the song. Usually not. I

(51:03):
kind of just think that's what comes with going to
the live show, Like it's sort of a built in expectation.
Best show you went to this last summer. That would
mean I would have had to have gone to a show.
You can go to show somewhere. No, I mean the
only like show that I went to was downward here.
I lived that like a concerts at the park, and

(51:25):
so it's kind of just a local. Are you not
a music guy? Is music not a music guy? Not?
Not entirely, No, I mean I like to listen to
music when I work out or kind of like in
my downtime but I'm not a big like go see
people live. Yeah, they're probably going to see if people alive?
Is you have to be around people, right? It does
a disappointing thing. The ones that sing next to you

(51:47):
or like look at you and go yeah, You're like, yeah, no,
I'm here with you. Right, there's like there's a level
of fandom that I like. But you're like, wow, you
know every word to every song and you want and
you want and you want to make eye contact with me.
We sing it together, you know, I don't know. You like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw Maroon five a couple of weeks ago. They

(52:07):
were really good. Where did you see Marion at My Heart?
Uh theater in Burbank? You went to see on their
album release. But they were very and maybe because we
were close, and that's that's awesome. My my daughters went
to see on one of my daughters, my wife want
to see Nail Horne at that same venue? Yes, well,
I mean Maroon five is big time now. Yeah, they're good.

(52:28):
Adam is really good, Yes he is. You cannot take
your eyes off of Adam Levin. He is definitely a star.
Excuse me, what's that say that sentence again? You cannot
take your eyes off of Adam Levin, not just anything
wrong with that, you know, he's he's definitely in the
charge of the band. M Yeah. So so now did

(52:50):
you take your wife, take your kids? Who all of them? No?
Just just Susanne, just Susanne. And yeah, and I said,
just take a lot of pictures, honey, because this is
about as close as you're gonna get to being in
your for the rest of your life. Okay. And and
and is she and Adam Levin? Yes, she loves that's
confidence ramas just being like, hey, soak it up. There
he is, honey, how great for your visualizations? Here you go,

(53:15):
there you go, here, here you go. Yeah, he's good
like a man. So question a lot of tattoos, a
little too much in the tattoos got you got to
the point where like, yeah, too much. Yeah, I couldn't
really tell because he was dressed in normal you know,
just like there's there's a men's health or men's fitness
magazine where he talks to you. I think he's a
ramost you know, I mean, um music, you need to

(53:35):
hook me up. He played, he's a hooper okay, you know,
and we're both you know of the tribe. We gotta
hook it up. He doesn't. He hasn't gone face tattoos
yet or like does he do the neck? I don't know.
He's he's got a lot of tattoos. He's got a
lot of tattoos. And it's like, look, there's I have
a little bit. There's a part of me that has
tattoo envy. It's like, yeah, i'd get a I get

(53:57):
a tattoo. I just I won't. But like like once
you get to like when your press like three or four,
you're like they stopped having meaning like no, no, this
one means like no, it doesn't like well, I just
want to say something like don't you have like songs
and words and mouth to say something. This one reminds
me of the other tattoo that I got, which reminds
me of the other tattoo, which finds a bit chick

(54:17):
I used to day. It was awesome with her. No,
I don't have whatever you're a check engine light comes on.
Don't let your car suffer at auto zone Today the
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(54:38):
there some something if you always think there's something wrong
with your car even though there's not, there has to
be right. There has to be guys and autos and
they're like, dude, you went to see the fixed finder yesterday.
There's nothing wrong with your car, like no plug it in?
There's something wrong with this car, Like no, dude, you
know you owe you own a day woo. The only
thing wrong is it's a day woo. R J Bel

(55:01):
from pregame dot Com and Fox Sports Radio joins the show. Next,
he gives us his five best games in the NFL
from the Vegas perspective this upcoming week. That's next. But first, Okay,
so I heard this crazy story over the weekend about
these twins. They grew up to find out that their
mom doesn't know really who their dad is. This just
crushes these guys, as it would you or me. So

(55:24):
these brothers set out on a mission to find their dad.
It turns out their mom was a bit um wild
yeah wild back in the day. A lot of options.
Who could be the pops, NFL player, small town vet,
big city cop, coked out hedge fund guy, anyone could
be their dad, and they fly all of the country.
These dudes are piecing together clues, meeting up with all
sorts of crazy characters, crashing funerals, picking up hitchhiker's getting

(55:47):
shot at, getting into all sorts of crazy situations just
to find their old man. And then in the end
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It's now playing. It's Radar Dar broadcasting live from the

(56:10):
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(56:33):
actually going to Vegas tomorrow you guys know that, right,
I know that. Yeah, it sounds more glamorous than it
really is. We'll do my radio show for our local
affiliateds in Vegas, and then I'll be doing a Northern
Colorado U and l V game for our friends at Facebook.
It'll be fun, totally relaxed, Northern Colorado, pretty good U
and l V. I think Marvin Mensi do an outstanding

(56:53):
job of rebuilding that program be live at Thomas and
Mac seven and nine. You check it out on Facebook,
and then I think I'll have a nice little me
oh maybe a maybe a sip of something alcoholic, can
pass out, get up and fly home. Like it sounds,
Vegas sounds really glamorous, but you're going there, You're gonna
work for like five hours of the twenty hours you
run the ground, not even twenty hours on the ground.
It's not that. But I may, I may happen to

(57:15):
pruise by the sports book because it's can be the
happiest or saddest place in Vegas, depending on how the
end of the game turned out. And I want to
be happy. I want to have a merry Christmas. Let's
help you have a merca Give my money, right Are
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(57:36):
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r J in Vegas. R J. I'm going to guess tomorrow.
Make me some money. What's up, dude? Oh excited? You
know holidays in Vegas. A lot of people think, oh,
it sounds kind of sad. You know, it actually is awesome.
I know you're gonna be gone by the holidays, but
a lot of people come out here for the holidays
because they figure get rid of the family pressure. The

(58:19):
meals are all gonna be good, and it really is fun.
My family's come out for nineteen straight years for Thanksgiving
and it's been uh, mostly wonderful. Let's just say it's
better than it would have been at home, no question.
I think once your kids get to a certain age
to which they don't have to await certain things to
come to certain people to come to the house, I

(58:39):
think it is I think it is a good option.
It's absolutely a good option. All right, let's get to
by the way, r J host and national show eleven
pm to midnight Pacific time on Friday nights, ten pm
to midnight Pacific on Saturday nights. Gets you ready for
Sunday games. Of course, we have a couple Monday games.
We got Saturday games. We've got everything working out. Let's
get to your your five big plays of the weekend.
Let's start with the Rams. There. Take it on the Titans.

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The Rams are fresh off an absolute walloping, I mean
a whooping that they handed to the Tennessee Titans, and
they are seven point favorites against the Titans, who just
lost on the road to San Francisco forty niners. Is
that number two? Big? Yes? And that Rams against Seattle
game was one of the real statement games of the season,

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if not the statement game of the season. But that's
why there's value here. One of the tools that the
Vegas guys use we use is the look aheadline. You
can actually bet next week right now. Now. What's the
advantage of that. It gives you a perspective on how
the one game that happens in the interim effects perception

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or the look aheadline on this game was the Rams
favored by three and a half points. Now the Rams
are favored by seven. What's happened since? Well, the Rams
played their best game of the year, one of the
best games of the NFL season of any team. What
did Tennessee do? They met exac actlee expectation. They were
two point dogs. They lost by two, So the idea
the Rams should be upgraded three and a half points

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is absurd. No team gets upgraded this late in the
year more than a point and a half or so.
I think there's a chance the Rams are flat. I
know they still have to win to finish off the division,
but they've had a tough run recently. Now they're on
the road during the holidays laying a touchdown. Maybe they're
just a little bit flat. And you know the Titans,

(01:00:27):
this team has been overrated the entire season. They're finally
now properly rated. In fact, if this game we're in
l A, the line would be thirteen. Are you really
telling me Tennessee is one of the worst teams in
the league. There's only like ten or so games a
season the home teams favored by thirteen or more. This
line is out of whack value Titans plus a touchdown. Alright,

(01:00:48):
that gate line is out of whack. Chicago Bears hosting
the Cleveland Browns last week, I thought, maybe this is
the week, right the Ravens. They're they're you know, the
Ravens are coming off the Steelers and the brown they've
been close, and then of course they weren't close last
week to the Ravens. So this does feel like a
pretty good bye. Like Bears six and a half point

(01:01:09):
favorites hosting the Cleveland Browns. Tell me you agree with
me that this is a pretty good buy. So you
like the Bears. I like the Browns. I like the
Browns too, And it pains me because I've been I
I kind of mentioned that twenty years in January, I've
been in Vegas. I've bet probably every day but maybe
fifty days since I was fourteen years old, So thirty

(01:01:32):
three years I've bet me mostly every day. And the
first time this year, Doug, I have sworn, I swore
off a team and said I am not betting them again,
no matter what. And it was the Browns. It's not
just how badly they haven't been the fact they haven't
been covering it's they've been in such winning situations and

(01:01:53):
then in the last two minutes they've given us some
of the worst beats of the season. It's one thing
to lose a game, it's another thing to think you
got a winner and then have it given away. And
I think that's the reason the value is here. There's
so few people left willing to bet the Browns. They
gotta make them so cheap. And I think here, I'm
not gonna better myself because I made a pledge, but
I certainly think the value is on the Browns. One

(01:02:15):
last thought, if you look at the Bears, other than
that game against Cincinnati, since the word, let's say, hosting
Green Bay like six seven, six weeks ago, this team
has not played a good game except one against the Bengals,
team which we saw obviously the next week has given
up on the season. So to me, there's nothing that

(01:02:36):
makes me think the Bears are any better than the Browns,
and if they are, it's only a smidge and the
fact they're six and a half point favorites that means
value Browns. Okay, so we we agree. R J Bell
at r J in Vegas is Twitter handle, pregame dot
com is the website Arizona Cardinals hosting the New York
Football Giants. Cardinals only a three and a half point favorite.

(01:02:59):
I kind of feel like the Cardinals are the smart
buy here. We'll tell you like, you don't need you
don't need me for this. You're right again on this one,
and the I think your instincts are there, right is
this Arizona team. When you get late in the year,
you've got a question motivation, if it's not obvious. One
of the factors that helps you decide that is how
discipline of coaches. Well, Arizona's got a pretty disciplined coach,

(01:03:22):
a pretty good coach. What is the Giants have? They
have a substitute teacher they that coach, it likely won't
be there next year. And remember when you have teams
without obvious motivation, they tend to ebb and flow, meaning
if they play bad one week, they hear about it
on radio, and then they play better the next week.
Energy wise, well, the Giants have played too really all

(01:03:43):
in games against the Cowboys and against the Eagles. Now,
how motivated is this team gonna be to travel during
the holidays all the way out west to play Arizona?
One last thing about Arizona. Last nine times they've scored,
it's been nine field goals. Now. I know that's not
a good offense to Cardinals in general, but they're supposed

(01:04:04):
to have sprinkled a couple of touchdowns in there no
matter what, which means they're probably playing better than the
scoreboard indicates because they've been bad in the red zone,
which tends to even out in the long run. Arizona
minus three and a half is de pick. Cowboys are
favored by five, hosting the Seattle Seahawks. Uh. Seahawks has
gotten their heads kicked in past two weeks. They're all
banged up in the Cowboys are are as fresh and

(01:04:26):
rested and healthy as they've been in a while. And
they get a Zeki Elliott back who has uh no
mileage on the odometer because he's been off for six
weeks with the suspension. Feels like this is a game
which you take the Cowboys or are they overvalued? You know,
maybe you need me because I think this one is overvalued. Now,
if you would have fired on Sunday night and the
line was Dallas favored by two and a half, I

(01:04:47):
would have agreed with you a hundred percent. Dallas doesn't
have a great home field. Let's call it two and
a half instead of three. These teams are about even
I hear you, but Dallas is healthier. Seattle seems to
be trending down. I was down forty to nothing at
home last week. Remember, and the Rams are good. They're
not that they shouldn't be that good. But if you

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did you watch a game, not one of the touchdown
drives from the Rams started in their own territory. Now,
I'm not saying they didn't play gray. I'm saying but
that's because that's because Seattle can't block anybody. I mean
couldn't block anybody. So Russell Wilson was running for his
life and they had to punt, and that's why they
had such because you know what's funny. I mean, look
and Cooper cup dropped one on like the first drive,

(01:05:29):
which was actually a really probably their best overall drive
of the day. Well, here's the thing. If you look
at Seattle's old line, since they got left tackle Brown,
other than last game, football outsiders had him as one
of the top ten offensive lines. Obviously, the Rams have
a different level or D line. Does Dallas have a
level or D line, I don't think. So here's what
I know. The line in that Seattle game last week

(01:05:52):
was early in the week, especially before he got bat
was Seattle favored by two. So the implication was the
ram were just a little bit better than Seattle. Now,
the fact that on the field show differently doesn't really
change all that much, because let's be honest, if Pittsburgh
plays Jacksonville in Pittsburgh, do you think Jacksonville should be

(01:06:14):
favored even though Jacksonville dominated them in the same spot
earlier in the year, right or not? Antonio? Well, in
the NBA, well, they wouldn't even be close to being
favored even with those situations. And even in the NBA
when you have a seven game series. Remember let's go
back to the eighties when Larry Bird and the and
the Lakers got blown out by forty or whatever in

(01:06:35):
that famous game in the mid eighties, did you think, well,
no chance Boston the next game. No Valentine's Day massacret No,
I wouldn't whatever was what's different about this? Then? One
game doesn't tell a season, and Seattle isn't. Seattle got
their heads kicked in by Jacksonville the week before. Was
that heads kicked in. Listen, here's what I know. I

(01:06:55):
agree with you. Dallas is a little bit better. But
Dallas being a five point favorite, it's five now, that's
the point. They're not that much better. I think value Seattle. Okay,
I'll take the other side of that. When Pittsburgh all
banged up going to Houston, who sucks? Um? Nine point
Steelers nine point favorites after tumultuous week and no Antonio Brown?

(01:07:18):
Nos chaise here, what do you like? I think Pittsburgh
is the easiest motivational handicap team in the NFL, if
there is, if it would be absurd for them to
not be motivated, They're motivated, right, And if it wouldn't
be absurd, they're not motivated. And you really look at it,
it plays that way. So day is night and night

(01:07:40):
is day is Well, what I'm saying is, if there's
any reason for the Steelers not to play hard, they
don't seem to play hard. And I'm a Steeler fan
and this stat backside up more than any other. If
you go back to the Tomlin's first year, there's been
fifteen teams that were home underdogs at nine points or
more to win the game and that and though years

(01:08:00):
the Steelers were the losing team five times and the
rest of the NFL ten times, the Steelers have a
third of these horrible road losses compared to the whole league.
And I know there's are small samples, but it really
speaks to Pittsburgh lays more eggs. They did it in
Chicago as a seven point favorite on the road this year,

(01:08:21):
and they've had a brutal run that that that Bengals
game that was one of the hardest hitting game of
the year. Then the Ravens, then the Pats. I know
they've got to win here, but my sense is they're
a little flat. Houston has a good coach. I think
the value Texans plus nine r J Bell. Check out
his radio show that's Friday and Saturday night right here
on Fox Sports Radio. Follow on Twitter at RJ in Vegas,

(01:08:43):
or go to pregame dot com. Better make this a
merry Christmas for me, so don't tell you otherwise. I
got a guy in Vegas to take care for me.
I'm saying I know a few guys too that sure
you do. Thanks so much Christmas, Tea, thank you all.
Let's quickly get you too. David Gascon who joins us David?
What's going on in sports? Kick things off? First? In
college basketball number twenty four, Florida State took apart Southern

(01:09:04):
Miss nine to twenty one. That's a one game going
on today until the night time. Switching back to the
NBA day game, that was a day game. It was
around much like uh, Duke last night with Evansville. Duke
Evansville was I mean, that was what? What a slaughtering?
That was Duke one one oh four forty eight at

(01:09:24):
the half? Yeah, that was painful. I should ask r
J what the line was on that thing? Man? Uh.
In the NBA Celtics, Jalen Brown questionable tonight for Boston
with a sword left achilles. Chris Paul He's not gonna
play Friday against the l A Clippers because of a
groin injury. He left last night's game against the l
A Lakers because of it. In the NFL, Packers wide
receiver Davante Adams out this weekend because of a concussion.

(01:09:46):
Ravens wide receiver Jeremy Macklin is listed as doubtful for
Saturday because of a knee issue. Seahawks were just find
a hundred thousand dollars today by the league for filling
a fall concussion protocol with Russell Wilson. That stems all
the way back from week twelve or week ten, excuse
me with the Arizona Cardinals. Hawkins got some good word
today and Devin Tevin Coleman back out of concussion protocol,
so he looks to be ready to go this weekend.

(01:10:08):
And you are in Saints d B. Kenny Vicario on
I R with a groin issue. He is now officially
done for the season. US Coast Guard rescues a sea
turtle entangled in bundles of cocaine off the coast of Florida.
That's an incredible video. This is an incredible video that
I'm going to tweet out from CNN where this is
poor sea turtle all tangled up and you got this

(01:10:30):
it looks like gray booties like keeping it afloat, Like, hey,
what's inside those booties at foam and they're like, oh,
it's cokay. Meanwhile, they interviewed the turtle. He's like, yeah, man,
I was just stuck in the tumes stuck in the
t I was stucking this thick. I could get out
of it, but the like really like whoa whoa whoam
The normally calm sea turtle was swimming in circles. I

(01:10:55):
was jumping out of the water. I'm sorry, Um, Apparently
I have a mumbling problem. My wife says a snore
and I don't hear it. She's like your store. I'm like, no,
I'm not. Um. Apparently also have a mumbling problem. And
the crew likes to make fun of me mumbling. So

(01:11:15):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be roasted for them trying to
understand what I was what I was saying when I
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(01:11:37):
Sports Radio. One of the great things about me, but
this guy right here is I know I have flaws.
I am not flawless, right, I know. I used to
have more hair. I know, though good looking, I'm not
the best looking man in the world. Uh. I am
not short, but I am not tall, right, Like I
I know I'm about I got, I got things I

(01:11:57):
wish I was a little bit, And I have a
tendency to mumble a little bit or maybe do the
little talk under my breath or almost a um a
running narrative, kind of a narration to outside of like
a a monologue that I have going on in my head.

(01:12:17):
I sometimes share with you, well that and now what
the dog say. Guys like to do. Guys like to
play this all the time with me, where they think
it's funny, and I have to point out that I can.
I know exactly what I'm saying when I'm saying it.

(01:12:39):
All right, let's bring in David Gascon. David, you're the
master of the ceremonies. All right, Doug, we put a
few things together. So let's start off with act number
one with God Ryan Music Executive Producer. What in the
world did Doug saying? Have a have some carbs, John,
I have a car? Are Doug? That's what I heard?

(01:13:03):
I heard I have a car? All right? Let's see motorcycles.
Fun motorcycles. Sexy motorcycles are quicker, slow down, faster, more agile,
win in your face. If you're like a dog, kind
of like a bird, got it? Drive a car. Drive
a car, right, dr d have a car. Not bad,

(01:13:24):
not bad at all. Right, here we get with number two.
You know what you know, feel oh my god, you
know you know hey, yeah, you know, you know you
know hey, right, like that's a that's like that's like
a meatball meat head type of yeah. I would say that.

(01:13:45):
I know. I ain't forgot what it was, but whatever doctor,
whatever was, Doug said, sure, all right, let's get into it.
It was a lot of other people talking, and it
wasn't necessarily Rocky little you know, you know, uh, hey,
my rockets can change, can change, we all can change.

(01:14:11):
Rocky four. Watch it music, Watch it music as you
watch Rocky four. Yet I have not watched Rocky for yet. Unbelievable.
All right, there we go with number three. Not as
bad suggestion. Oh wow, Ryan, not a bad suggestion, Not

(01:14:32):
as bad as suggestion. I'm not as bad as suggestion,
I think, is what I said. But go ahead, let's
go with the tape. That's not a that's not a
bad suggestion, suggestion, not as bad suggestion. Number four. I

(01:14:52):
couldn't even know that one more time? Did I really
say that on radio? It sounds like a backward tape. Yeah,
where was I drugs? Drugs? I can't remember. That's get
one more time, alright, one more time for the audience.
Having fun with it? I think I think the last

(01:15:13):
couple of words, we're having fun with it something about wearing,
something about I haven't found what I wear? Having found
with it? I have no idea. I gotta hear context.
Anytime you come home late, anytime you know you're you're
on the phone, Like, was you on the phone with
You're not like you're like, well, why did you don't
offer that up? Was he on the phone? I don't

(01:15:36):
know what I was talking about. I remember what I
was talking about the time, But was he on the
phone with It's like when you get pestured with a
question when you're still kind of on the phone and
your wife asks you a question and you're and it
just it becomes becomes a little jumble. That's what it
felt like to me. Yeah, is he on the phone with?
His lawyer said alright, alright, go clip number five. I

(01:15:59):
think he's shried olders strollers. I think I try to
say shoulders once I said trollers. You gotta hear in
full sentence. I understand you're like, well, this is his
side of the story. Okay, that makes sense. It's the pactors,
packers doctor. But if his trollers truly screwed up? Shoulders, shoulders?

(01:16:23):
All right, I speak for living last one fellas. Here
we go mad, Now I have first beard dead. That
one's easy. Come on, not my first beard, dad, Come on,
come on? And now what did DOT say? All right,
so I got a little bit of mumbling problem. You

(01:16:44):
stick with me, You'll get the general gist of what
I'm saying. Let's get as many stories as we can.
Oh yeah, we're just I was like, I was thinking, like,
the show's not over yet, Like, right, let's play a
game and now say, um, it's so funny. Yesterday we
had a Nick Wright, right, and Nick Wright has a

(01:17:05):
tendency to bring everything back to what to one athlete
Lebron James Clay Travis has a tendency to bring every
coaching discussion back to this guy just flat out incredible
job that he has done. And I know for a
long time it was trendy to make fun of Lane
Kiffin and to take shots at him. I don't think
that's fair anymore. I think you have to look at

(01:17:25):
what this guy has done in the last four years,
and if his resume was only what he has done
in the last four years, if prior to that he
had been working his way up to become Nick Saban's
top offensive assistant, if all of that had happened, and
we had never heard of Lane Kiffin at USC, we
never heard of Lane Kiffin at Tennessee or the Oakland Raiders.

(01:17:46):
Lane Kiffin has been the number one coaching candidate in
America this past off season, and I firmly believe that
there are gonna be a lot of programs that made
head coaching hires. They're gonna look around and the fan
bay said, well as well as the administration and say,
why didn't we just go higher Lane kiffn Uh yeah.

(01:18:06):
I think that there's a couple of things here. First,
it's like, well, if we didn't pay attention to Oakland,
we didn't play tennis tendon attention to Tennessee, if we
didn't pay attention to USC, like you mean, we didn't
actually follow his career when he was a head coach
to see how he would do as a head coach?
Got it right? Like okay, And look, I'm a greater

(01:18:27):
good guy. I'm a I never try and find the
worst moment in somebody's life for somebody's career and say
that's who that person definitively is. But we have plenty
of moments to which you don't think that he was
somebody who you'd want to be represented US head coach.
And then the other part that I think Clay is
either obtuse to or simply not speaking to, which is

(01:18:50):
he did go through a divorce. I'm sure he's either
uh seen as arrogant or not easy to deal with.
And there are some other issues which have held him
back from being hired by any of these jobs. Why
did he have such a falling out with Nick Saban?
Why couldn't he get the Houston job? What goes wrong
in these Why did al Davis haul out the projector

(01:19:14):
overhead projector call him Aliah and summarily dismiss him. Why
did he go so wrong at USC that they had
to fire him on the tarmac, Like you have to
ask yourself these questions and if your if your biggest
point to why he why he should get a head
coaching job is not just Florida Atlantic, but look what

(01:19:35):
he did at Alabama didn't Alabama make the playout this
year without him? Look, I thought he did a good
job at Alabama. I do, but he couldn't get along
with his boss. And Um, you can say what you
want about Nick Saban and how he handles himself, purports himself, whatever,

(01:19:55):
but the fact is that when Nick Saban won't pick
up the phone and call for you and vouch for you,
and up until this year, that was your most successful
run as a head coach. If he won't, who will also?
I guess Cowherd and I have a beef. Here's Colin
on his show earlier today, fills in for me. I'm like,
I hope he just learns forgets how to talk even

(01:20:16):
though he's my friend. Yeah, that's normal. Like Jonas and
Dan fill in for me. I don't want them to
be better than me. I liked me to be good.
I don't want you to tune into the Doug Goling
should be like that was gibberish. They're both very good
when they fill in for me. They filling in next week.
Who's filling next week? Danny is, but he's has a
couple of different people filling in with him. Who good?

(01:20:43):
So those are good people. I don't want them to
be better than me. I like it. It's different. Two
guys shows different than the one guy show less mumbling.
I would I would guess that's like, oh, he took
him to the College Fall Playoff. Like dude, they went
to the College Fall Playoff this year. They won national
championships before he got there, and he did with three

(01:21:03):
different quarterbacks, three different styles. I get a good play caller,
but as the head coach, we have three different instances
where he uh oversold and under delivered. There's video out
of Jimmy Garoppolo leading the forty Niners to a game
winning field goal. What it says most about the quarterback position.
I'll share with you next on the Doug Gotlap Show,

(01:21:25):
What Up Snug Gotlip Show, Chris Bruce Sarry joins us
upcoming in like uh ten minutes right? Fifteam is tournaments
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(01:21:51):
wistening pronunciation s h n a t t e r
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criticized the NFL over protest man. Papa john says its
founder John Schnatter, will step down to CEO. Several weeks

(01:22:15):
after you publicly criticized the NFL leadership over national anthem
protests for football players. Papa John's Pizza apologized Tuesday night
for comments made by Schnadder blaming the sluggish pizza sales
in the NFL kneeling blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah. The statements made are on an

(01:22:35):
earnest call. Were described factors that impact our business blah
blah blah blah. Wow. M The company's stock has following
bys since Schnatter's comments. It was falling before that too,
wasn't it. Yeah. I mean, I look, I think this

(01:22:59):
h um exasperated the need to make a change there.
But I think that, like, look, changing markets, changing markets.
I'm fascinated by changing markets. You know. Look, one of
the things we do here at Fox Sports Radio we
are on the I Heart Radio app, which is an
unbelievable app. You have to be on a great app

(01:23:22):
in order to in order to survive in this business
because people continue to go okay, I got my car radio,
but then I get out, I still have my headphones in.
I want to keep listening to it. Can I stay connected? Yeah? Yeah,
yes you can. M all right, there's a new Papa
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(01:23:47):
you up coming, um getting ready for bowl games. I'm
a wealth of information regards to shopping for your significant other.
There's just a lot of stuff, man, a lot of stuff.
Let's start with this stuff. Can we agree that the
Niners have found their quarterback? If you haven't seen the
video of Jimmy Garoppolo not just operating the two minutes drill,

(01:24:11):
but preparing for the two minutes drill, take a listener
from NFL Films. It's a show called Turning Point, which
I believe is on NBC's First network. They they they
miked up Garoppolo. This was in the win over the
Tennessee Titans. It starts with him on the bench talking
with the kicker, then going on the field, and then

(01:24:33):
it kind of goes back to what he did to
prepare himself for that moment. You run a lot of
talking to each other, communicating what we saw out there,
and it helps us in the next drive. This situation,
you're running gass, they can't handle your quickness that they're
trying to grab you, and just hit him off you
and you'll be fine. We want to hit the middle

(01:24:54):
because they're safety, they're super wise. Slip them and look
as you're like slipping him, because I'll bang it on
you because he has to turn his hymns. I'll bend
you across a little bit if he's playing on top
of you. Though. You can do one of these and
then go to steal it out player. Be a football
player about that one. Be a football player. But what's

(01:25:19):
amazing about the video is everything. First he sits down,
he talks with his uh, with his quarterback coach about
the two minute drill, which he knew but he wanted
just just kind of refresh right. And then he goes
up to each wide receiver and his tight end Garrett
sellec and tells them where they're going to be open
and how to be open and when to expect the football.

(01:25:39):
Then he goes out in the football field, after calming
his team, preparing them, motivating them with a quick little speech,
he throws the football exactly where and when and to
who He said he was going to throw the football too.
It's kind of like, do you guys remember that Larry
Bird video? Um, they used to have these awesome videos
for NBA players, right, and they have NBA Superstars. I

(01:26:00):
was the one of the first ones, and there was
a Larry Bird Living legend video. Rama's year old, and
I'll probably remember this one. And they interviewed they interviewed
Xavier McDaniel, who was the star for the for the
Seattle SuperSonics, and he's like, man, I remember I was
playing Larry Bird. We were playing him at home and
there were a couple of seconds off from the clock
and they were taking the ball and bounds and he

(01:26:22):
came on the court and he said, I'm gonna so
why are you Why are you smiling? I'm gonna catch
it right here and I'll make it in your face.
And then he did and he was mad, and I said,
why are you mad? And he said, because I didn't
mean to leave a second on the clock, right, Like
it was awesome. That's essentially that's essentially what has happened.

(01:26:45):
Essentially what happened in that video. Look, they're not gonna
pressure us some first down why because our coach has
done that type of prep. He knows in this situation,
I know they're gonna be in too deep, and here's
who's gonna be open and how you're gonna get open.
He described it to his plays and and part of it.
You get this from coaches as well, where there has
to be a moment of buying that's to be a

(01:27:09):
moment of buying with it's Sean McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan,
a moment to which you believe that guy is a genius.
I've I've talked about this a lot when I go
and speak to other coaches. And I asked my go
around the room, and I said, what's the best part
about coaching? And they all and look, most coaches are
in fact in it for the right reasons, and they're like,

(01:27:29):
nothing like taking a boy and making him a new man.
I didn't like that. Um, but um, what's fascinating about it, truly,
truly fascinating, is I find that that's not the best
part of coaching. The best part of coaching is planning,
preparing a team for a specific situation, practicing a play,

(01:27:53):
and then at the very right moment, calling for the
execution of that play, and when you execute that play,
the ball goes into the basket and everybody's like telling
of telling a group of twelve guys, hey, this is
what we're gonna run. This is when we're gonna run it,
this is the defense they're gonna play, this is where
the SHOT's gonna come. And then you do it, and

(01:28:14):
you run it, and sure enough, the ball goes in
the basket and they all look at you like that
guy's a genius. That's the best part of coaching. And
so the best part I'm sure of playing quarterback is
not just motivating players being prepared. It's when you tell
a guy, hey, look, if you get open over the
middle in just this short of way and then they
get the football, they're gonna listen to every word you say.

(01:28:39):
I know, I don't even play wide receiver for Jimmy Garoppolo,
and if he tells me to do something based upon
his level of preppartness for that situation last Sunday, I'm
doing it. It's funny in the same week you've talked
about coach and quarterback prepared ready to go, and coach
and quarterback not prepared and ready to go on a

(01:28:59):
team that just got two guys together within the last
two months and a team that's been together for what
ten fifteen years? Yeah, I know, it's it's really interesting
and and look, I also think they were both teams
are playing at home. But it was a bigger moment.
It was a little bit more discombbulated because of the review,
but the fact that like during the review Ben Roethlisberger

(01:29:20):
wasn't standing right next to Mike Tomlin. Use, no, like,
how are how is the brain trust? How is the
brain trust for the Pittsburgh Steers not all standing all
right next to each other? How is that possible? And
yet they like Ben Rothsburg was like, wow, we thought
it was gonna be down the one ft line, and

(01:29:42):
I like, they weren't not right next year, they weren't
ready to go, but they weren't on the same page.
And that was made really, really apparent. And it also
shows why there there should have been no rush for
Kyle Shanahan to play Jimmy garoppolo. He had to know
exactly what the calls were, exactly where everybody's gonna be.

(01:30:03):
No sense in rushing then, not at all. And by
the way, there's a benefit to sitting behind one of
the greatest players of all time, if you're gonna pay
attention right like, I know that Brett Farve didn't help
out Aaron Rodgers a lot. But I've seen other quarterbacks
that are sitting behind Vetchan quarterbacks that they're never sitting

(01:30:24):
right next to them. They're not soaking up all the information.
Garoppolo just followed and was just trying to be Tom Brady.
That's who he wanted to be. It sounded like Tom Brady.
It felt like Tom Brady. Man. The Niners have their guy.
It only cost him a second round pick and a
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The Thunder hold the Jazz to nine points in the
first half, seemed to be playing a little bit better

(01:31:05):
since uh kind of an up and down road trip.
The Rockets win fortune row, but then lose to the Lakers.
Where are we with the Calves Warriors still without Steph Curry,
but finding ways to win games. We'll check in with
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buying experience. Doug Ot Live Show Fox Sports Radio on
Christmas Day. You get up Christmas morning and you can
see me and Chris Brussard co hosting First Things First
on Fox Sports One. Be pretty fun. Chris, how are you?

(01:31:51):
I'm great, man, I'm really looking forward to that. I
think should we do two and a half hours of
basketball of NBA or three hour that show? Probably not
just because you're coming off the NFL, but we can
do plenty with with that, I know, without a huge
slate of games. Let let me ask you about about
last night. Let's let's start, uh with the Lakers taking

(01:32:13):
down the Rockets. Is the story of that game? The
Lakers or the Rockets? I mean, I gotta be honest,
I think it's just an NBA game. You know what
I mean, Like you, you have upsets like this all
the time in the course of an NBA season. But
I do think there are two two story lines that

(01:32:34):
would emerge. One, it's a great win for the Lakers.
If you had to choose between the two teams, which
storylines you're gonna emphasize, is that this young team, you know,
beat the hot the hottest team in the NBA, uh
and look good doing it. Kuzma obviously the stage wasn't
too big for him. Linzo for in my opinion, the
fourth straight time a big stage, the Mason Square Garden,

(01:32:58):
Lebron James Kobe retiring men now the best team in
the league at least record why And he doesn't shriek,
He plays well, gets a big shot, runs the offense
pretty well. Um. So look, I think it was a
good win for that young team. So I think that's
the first storyline, let's not make too much of it.
But the second one is Chris Paul and the injury.

(01:33:19):
And I know it's not a huge injury. He's day
to day with the abduct or strain or pull or
whatever it is. But I mean he's only playing what
fourteen games this year and he continues to get hurt. Um,
So that is something I know he'll be back soon,
but when's the next time he might go down? You know,

(01:33:41):
in a month, two months. So that's something that I
think that you also have to look at and just
keep an eye on. All right, let's let's go to
the Oklahoma City thunder. There's a new story out Ian Bagley. Uh.
Bagley wrote about it where he said, um he um uh.
Chronicle the fact that there was this wildly dysfunctional relationship

(01:34:05):
between Mellow and Phil even though everybody agreed in order
to win, they had to get rid of Mellow. How
much is Mellow to blame for the thunder underachieving to
this point in the season. Well, I would blame him,
like a lot of people want to pick on Russell Westbrook.
I would blame Mellow before I blamed Westbrook. Not that

(01:34:25):
west look brooks blameless. But you know, I think I
look at Billy Donovan and I know it's not easy
with three headstrong guys who are used to be in
the number one or number one a option. But that's
your job as a head coach. You have to somehow
get them into a system and get them committed to
playing the system that is best for that unit and

(01:34:47):
those players. So I blame Billy Donovan. I do have
to look at Melo again before I would look at
uh the other two. George hasn't been great. You know,
he shot well from three, having shot well overall, that's
all Westbrook. You know, I think he's shooting forty one percent.
George he shot forty one percent two seasons in his

(01:35:08):
career in Indiana, So it's not like Paul George is
Kevin Durant in terms of his shooting percentage. So I
don't put that all on Westbrook. But yeah, you have
to look at Mellow number one. He's missing shots and
they're open shots. He was shooting. I don't know if
he still is, but a week ago he's below and
that's on him. So and if he's not making shots,

(01:35:31):
you know this, what else? What's he doing? He's not defending,
he's not passing well or great. Um, so he's not
gonna give you much if he's not scoring, and he
hasn't done that very well. I think he's average about
fourteen points or thirteen maybe over the last month or so.
So Mellow does need to step it up and play better.

(01:35:53):
If this team is gonna become what people thought they
had a chance to be. Christoperus are joining us in
the Doug Gottlip Show. Okay, So do they see it
all the way through or a trade deadline time to go,
this ain't work and let's move Paul George. Yeah, that's
that's the big question. I mean most of us look
on the outside and we say they gotta trade George.
He's not saying I know right now. Their mentality is

(01:36:14):
they want to try to see this through. Not just
I'm not so much talking about the players, although they
probably feel that way too, but the front office, the
decision makers, Uh, they're giving off every indication that they're
keeping George for the Empire season and they want to
give this team a shot to see what it can
do in the playoffs. Look, Sam Prusty is one of

(01:36:35):
the smartest GM in the league. I did think he
made a mistake by moving too fast and trading James Harden.
I think he could have kept in that whole season.
So you know, sometimes you you could point to lose
where he was too quick on the trigger and other
times where he waited too long. I like Kevin Durant
I can't blame me for that one. But uh man,

(01:37:00):
they Look, here's the thing that's funny. We're all talking,
and I don't think they played great. Right, we can
pick out, you know, warps in their games. But they've
won seven of ten and I think it might even
be eight of eleven. It is, if at least seven
in their last ten, and so they may be looking
at it as look, we're starting to come around now.

(01:37:22):
One of those games, Westbrook has thirty eight and George
I think had eight and and Mello had four. I
don't want to win that way if I'm Oklahoma City,
because I know that's not sustainable, not only for the
good of how good the team could be, but for
the morale, because you know, George and Miller are gonna
be happy scoring ten, twelve, fourteen points the game. So,

(01:37:46):
but they are winning much more than they were in
the beginning of year. They've already moved up to West six,
I think in the West. So I think if they
keep winning these games, the the greater likelihood is that
they don't make a move on. George Chris Bruce are
joining us at the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox

(01:38:06):
Sports Radio. Um, you know, just kind of lurking out
there as the San Antonio Spurs. I know Kauai is
not back fully healthy. Pretty remarkable what they've been able
to do, mostly without their best player. Uh, what's what's
your sense of their viability at the top of that west? Yeah,

(01:38:27):
I mean it's just the same old Spurs, you know.
I mean they are I'm not the first to say this.
They are the New England Patriots of the NBA. It's
just as simple as that. And and people may feel
like and they have won more championships lately, remember when
they went ten years whenout winning a championship in New
England and so, but they're always in the hunt. And

(01:38:49):
that's the thing with San Antonio. Um, you can't write
them off. I mean, what were the nineteen and eight
without Kauai? UM. I think they're a contender. I wouldn't
pick them over certainly not over Golden State. I don't
think they have the athleticism to play with the Spurs.
I don't think they can score to play with the Warriors.

(01:39:11):
I don't think they can score with the Warriors either.
I know they'll they may try to slow it down
and play big, and that's probably their best shot. But
you can only slow down the rant stuff and Clay
and Draymond so much. So I don't think they can
outscore them like a Houston might be able to do.
But you you know, I wouldn't hesitate at all to

(01:39:33):
say that they're gonna be in the West. Well I'm
not predicting it, but if you told me the Spurs
would be in the Western Conference finals this year, I
would not scoff at that at all, because that's how
much respect we all have to give Greg Kopovitch and
those players, because, as you said, it doesn't it almost
doesn't matter who's there. I mean, they got guys that

(01:39:55):
people around the league fans have not even heard of
contributing and playing well. Genoble Is I mean, my goodness,
he's forty years old and they're still beating teams. So
I give him a shot to get to the conference finals.
I don't. I think. I don't think they can win
the West, but they couldn't upset of Houston, Um, you know,

(01:40:17):
and ruined somebody's postseason. Uh, somebody other than Golden States,
I should say, Okay, Uh, Cleveland, is this the roster?
They haven't got a niceia Thomas back, but he's gonna
go with their G league team. Um, is this the
roster that that they have when they get for the
get ready for the playoffs? Well, that depends on what
we talked about earlier, Paul George. I think if he

(01:40:39):
becomes available, Cleveland is one of a handful of teams
that will be on that shortlist that can get him.
I think the Lakers, and I think Houston if they
want to make a move in Cleveland. I think those
are three teams that will be right there, uh trying
to get him in and able to get him maybe. Um,
so that you have to watch that. DeAndre Jordan's that's

(01:41:01):
another one. There was a report out that Cleveland is
willing to give up Tristan Thompson, Emai Shumper and their
own number one pick, not bought Brooklyn's number one pick,
but their own. That's a lot to give up for
DeAndre um. But certainly he makes you better. There's no
question that I don't I don't know the path Golden State,

(01:41:22):
but he protects that rim and makes you better. And
I mean you're not you don't need Shumper Tristan. He's
just a DeAndre the bigger, better, version of Tristan Houston,
and that number one pick is gonna be twenty nine
in the league. So I think that's a move you
probably make if you're Cleveland, especially if you think Lebrian

(01:41:42):
might leave, and you gotta think he might leave, so
you take one more shot of trying to get that title.
So there could definitely be some changes to that Cleveland
roster before it's all send and done this season. Yeah,
I'm I'm fascinated by the DeAndre Jordan thing. Maybe it
speaks to what they think about Tristan and his relationship

(01:42:03):
with Kardashian Uh, more more so than anything else they
might say on the service. I don't again, I don't.
I don't understand that how that makes them better? Right
like like their whole thing it does. But look, look,
the whole deal is this. They got to be able
to beat the Warriors. They can beat everybody in the

(01:42:25):
East as they're currently constructed. We agree they're right, okay,
so and and the Warriors, and the Warriors don't have
a rim protector. So when the Warriors do go big, uh,
this obviously been you know, when they go to UH,
when they go to their big lineup, this makes Cleveland's
big line up better, but when they go small, you know,

(01:42:47):
when they go small. Yeah, So I don't know if
it's you know, I don't know if it's that useful.
Like I I feel like the way they're trying to
outflank um the Warriors. And here's what I mean. I
still don't think they're starting lineup is as good as
as the Warriors is. But I think coming off their bench,
you bring to Wayne, we wait up their bench. Obviously

(01:43:09):
with Isaiah Thomas coming in, that means somebody else goes
off their bench. Like I think their bench is in
fact stronger, and so the idea is that they can
now take Lebron out and get the best out of
Lebron and be more competive, and then their bench ends
up maybe maybe gaining some ground as Golden States bench
is not as strong. I think some of that goes
away when you have to trade away for the bench

(01:43:31):
and you're starting the lineup, isn't you know you don't
use that big line up that much. Well, if you
gave up super at Tristan, I mean, you have to
have so much depth, and I think they could withstand
that you're basically losing one for River to player because
you would play talented with DeAndre. I think what would
be interesting because I'm I'm with you in that it

(01:43:52):
would it would change sleeve with dynamic, and it would
give them a lot more versatility, right because they're not
going to outshoot the Warriors. They're just not. I think
the only team that could have a prayer of doing
that is Houston. And Cleveland's a good shooting team, but
they can't outshoot the Warriors in a seven game series.

(01:44:15):
But if you get DeAndre Jordan's you have the option
of trying to go slow and big. And here's the
thing and and Golden State they told me this in
when I was covering that final with Lebron James. I
don't necessarily like when they play this way, But if

(01:44:37):
you put the ball in Lebron's hands and just basically
he becomes the point guard, you can't control tempo. Not
many teams or I don't know if any other team
can control tempo consistently against Golden State. I think Cleveland,
with Lebron handling the ball, can control tempo and make

(01:44:59):
it a ninety point or maybe in this day and age,
a hundred point game. And that could benefit Cleveland. The
question is would Cleveland do that because they think they're
this high scoring, high octime octame three point shooting off them,
And so if you're if you get DeAndre there, you

(01:45:21):
have to decide at least at something, do we want
to go big and slow sometimes, you know, versus being
the three point shooting team that we've become. So it
would be interesting. Look the bottom line, my number one
goal would be to get Paul George if he becomes available,
he would be highest on the pack in order, no question.

(01:45:42):
That gives the ability to play so much, so much
more versatile style. If you do, yeah, yeah you can.
You can play, you can defend better on the perimeter,
you still can shoot the three. You know, you're right.
It gives him a lot more athleticism to to play
with Golden State. Where's Jordan's Now? You got to decide
that we weren't going to a time warp, right and

(01:46:03):
I don't know that they want to do that last thing.
Celtics lose, but still respectable in their in their comeback.
And now we're Gordon Hayward no more cast on that ankle,
he's walking around on it. And look we're we're only
in December, right like, And it's not even late to
sent like that, it's middle to center. We're December one,

(01:46:25):
We got one, two, three, four, five months until we
really get to playoffs. Are there's there's gotta start to
be whispers that Gordon Hayward may still play this season.
Oh yeah, and he I believe I heard him say
recently he wants to at this goal. That's what he's
working towards. Even if he doesn't get it. It's certainly

(01:46:48):
it's the motivation you need to get through that rehab,
you know that. So he's smart to say this is
my goal. Uh. The question is would the Celtics try
to be you know, extra washes and keep him out? Um,
that'd be an interested I mean, I still don't think
with Gordon Hayward they beat Cleveland. Um, I gotta be
out it. And I like Hayward. He's a very good player.

(01:47:11):
But I don't think their record would be any better
right now if Hayward had never gotten hurt, do you?
Uh No? But I actually think in many ways it's
helped them, right, It's helped them develop Jalen Brown's, help
help them develop Jayson Tatum, help them Uh, you know,
help them developing Brown because I think both of those
guys could be better than Gordon Hayward, you know, in

(01:47:34):
two years and maybe you know even sooner they could
be better than Hayward. Um, it would be interesting they
bring him back. I mean, you could start Tatum at
the four, Hayward at the three, Brown and the two.
So it would make them better, give him a lot
more depth and versatility, um, and make them more dangerous.
But there might be I won't even say that with

(01:47:55):
Brad Stevens. I'm not gonna say there would be a
period of growing pains. Where do it? And maybe I
mean because think about it. When he went out, they
just kept cruising like it was no issue. And then
I mean, I know, Kyrie only missed two games and
Burford missed the game or two and they were able
to keep it moving. So they seem to be you know,

(01:48:16):
there are a lot of ways you can compare a
brass Stevens to a young Greg Papa bitch, and that
just seems to be one more that whoever is in there,
they can kind of keep it moving. That's Christmus sorry,
checking out on weekends here on Fox Sports Tradeo. First
things first, being he'll be hosting on Christmas Day. In
the meantime, have a very happy holiday season. We'll see
you in New York on Monday on the TV side. Yeah,

(01:48:38):
my man, I'm looking forward to it, and I see
you on Christmas Day. Pleasure is mind Christmers, Sorry joining us.
Let's quickly get you to David Gascon before I tell
you why good news doesn't feel like as good news
as you think good news is in Pittsburgh. Go ahead,
all right, We'll stick with hoops right now. In college
basketball number twenty four, Florida State hit nineteen threes today.
M J. Walker had five of them, good for fifteen points,

(01:49:01):
and also a couple of times Florida State carved up
Southern missive. In the NBA, Chris Paul is unavailable on
Friday because of his adductor issue Graham problem, so that
he will not suit up against l A Clippers. Celtics
Jalen Brown list as questionable tonight for Boston when they
take on the New York Nicks. He has a sword
left achilles, but Kristaps Porzingis expects to play. He says

(01:49:22):
his knee is on a couple of quick notes. In
the NFL Packers wide receiver Davantae Adams is out this
weekend because of a concussion. Seahawks will find a hundred
grand for failing to follow concussion protocol for Russell Wilson
probably back in week ten, and the Falcons will get
back running back Tevin Coleman. He's out of concussion protocol. Doug.

(01:49:42):
I show this story about Ryan Schasier. So Shasier Chase
eer Uh is making progress and relying on faith and
prayer to cope with a severe spinal cord injury. That's
she's Here's father recently said quote, We've seen some improvement

(01:50:04):
that is encouraging. We're taking it one day at a time.
We do not know what tomorrow holds its daily journey.
We don't know, but I know God is getting the message.
We're praying for healing and keeping our mind and faith strong.
We know we're in a deep valley, but we do
not feel alone. Vernon went on to say, it's easy

(01:50:25):
to be faithful in a storm, but we're we're not
talking about a drizzle. We're talking about a hurricane and
category five. Lots of metaphors to describe it. Yeah, the
idea that there's improvement. But they're praying like, again, we
don't we have no idea. They've done a very good
job of with the exception of knowing that he had
a surgical procedure, we don't really know the severity of it.

(01:50:51):
But once you start to say praying here we got
a miracle, Like, am I wrong to speculate that it's really, really,
really bad? I don't know? How do you? We're almost
when you hear that, when you hear a guy going like, hey,
it's getting better, but we're praying for something that doesn't
seem like a resounding Hey, he's gonna be back, he's walking,

(01:51:13):
he canna be walking soon, ready to go, don't worry,
and and maybe it's under promise and over deliver, but
it doesn't feel that way. Yeah. No, it sounds like
they're just just kind of hoping that everything that he
could just get back to being a regular, just normal,
able to walk, but football might be not even in
anybody's future. Yeah, that's what it feels like to me.

(01:51:34):
What it feels like to me, So I'm not the
only one who feels that way. That's honest to goodness,
what it feels like. We're like, yo, because if it
was you know you, and usually dads are super positive. Yeah,
we're getting signs of encouragement. No question, will be back
next year, even if he's not back next year. Like

(01:51:55):
most dads, when you start saying like we're praying here,
that's one of those hope for the best, expect the
worst type deals. All right, I am, um, I got
some exciting news on what I'm doing tonight. I'll share
with you. I got a minute here going to my
high school basketball game, high school, my high school testing
high school taken on Foothill High School. There used to

(01:52:17):
be just two high schools in my town, Tusting and Foothill.
Now there's Beckman. I believe there's a third Beckman bestment
tax testing or not. Maybe there's still two high schools
in my town. I don't really know. But here's what's cool.
There's a couple of things that are cool about it. Um.

(01:52:38):
They have a brand new gym. I don't know brand new.
It is like three or four years old, really really nice.
And so my son, who's not keen on going to
basketball games, I'm like, dude, maybe if we get there early,
we can go to the gym I played in. Get
some shots up right. Baller wants to shoot for the game.
I wants to shoot at halftime. That's very normal stuff.

(01:53:01):
So it's it's weird. So um. Earlier this week, I
held a record, along with Michael Johnson of Oklahoma, eighteen
assists in the Big Twelve games, and and it it
stood since nineteen years. That's pretty cool. When I had
a teen sins, we actually lost, uh, and I didn't
play them any minutes because I got a t My
coach took me out of the game and I deserved

(01:53:21):
the tea. Um. Anyway, we lost the Florida Atlantic eight points,
eighteen assists. I did five turn And so I was
explaining to my son before I went to bed, like, hey,
one dad's dad's records got programs like you have records, yeah,
a couple, And so I kind of explained the college records,
like what about high school? It's like, well, you know,

(01:53:42):
I used to be the all time scoring leader that
my buddy. My buddy passed me the very next year,
so some second in scoring. But I did do have
the all time leading scoring single game at my high school.
And he asked how many it was, and I said,
was like in one game was like, yeah, that's so cool.
It's one of those things to which and look, I

(01:54:04):
don't know if you have any records or if there's
any personal accomplishments, And sometimes we're made to feel as
if our personal accomplishments should not be recognized or should
not Remember, I'm not saying you live in the past.
I have friends that live in the past. They can't
get out of high school, they can't get out of college,
they can't get out of eighth grade. Remember when I
scored those two touchdowns? Yeah? Man, right, Like, I'm not

(01:54:26):
stuck in the past, but there are certain successes that
you should every once in a while call upon be like,
you know what, Yeah, I did that. So the the
cool thing is when you walk by there's a wall.
They used to have in one gym, the old gym.
They have all the different records up now they just
have all time scoring, all time assists, got that one

(01:54:48):
all time steels, got that one um single game as well,
And I have points and assists as well. So I
get to take my son be like, look, who's right there,
this guy? It's kind of cool, uh? Is it is? It?
Is it a dB move music? What do you think
to point out or is it it cool? Yeah, I'm
not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be wearing

(01:55:10):
a Letterman jacket. I don't actually actually don't own a
letter No, not if it's your son. If you're like, hey, music,
what are you doing after the show, Like, let's nothing,
let's go check out my right, come on, come by
the old hood. I'll show you what it's all about.
It's the sun thing is cool. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
That's all fair game talking about it on your national

(01:55:31):
radio show. No, it's cool, it's it's it's very true.
I'm very like, I don't I didn't talk about the
Tray Young thing when the Tray Young thing happened, and
it was only you know, he said he tied the
national record twenty two in a game. I didn't even
know the national records the game. I would have gone
for twenty two in a game. I would have been
able to talk my coach into it. Because there's a
couple of we had sixteen or seventeen and didn't didn't

(01:55:53):
play the whole game. I'm like, yo, um, that kid
is incredibles like fresh leading the country and scoring and assists,
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car buying experience and say you do leave you Doug
Alive show Fox Sports Radio. We will not subject to
you to that type of singing anymore. I promise. Let's
get after. Let's get to the press, the press. No

(01:56:37):
no no, don't don't no, no no, don't no, don't
David gascon what he got formula, my friend. We'll start
things off in the NBA. Chris Bosh is in the news,
but for the wrong reasons. His mom is in a
little bit of trouble after police say she allowed a
drug ring to be taking part in her home where
she was also exploiting a disabled tenant. Police that suspected

(01:57:00):
marijuana and narc conics was in the house, and after
raiding the house conducting interviews, cops that discovered Bosh's mom
and her tenant, Jonathan Brown, allowed a disabled person to
live in the house on the condition he gave up
a large part of his disability check to pay for
Brown's rent. They also alleged that they forced him to
help Brown deal cocaine and also Heroin out of the house.

(01:57:23):
That's a corner police. I mean, that's the craziest story ever.
But I guess, like is is Chris Bosh supposed to
have lifted her up out of whatever sort of financial
distress she was in. Yeah, he apparently had evicted her
on three different occasions. Yeah, dude, I mean she's a mess.
I actually I'm on team Boss on this one. Like

(01:57:46):
your grown you're a grown woman. You gotta take care
of yourself. So, I mean Chris Bosh's mom, who, by
the way, looks a lot like Chris Bosh. I mean
she is in fact his mother, but she looks a
lot like Chris Bosh. It's sad man, But that's that's
some dirty stuff. Going back to your previous segment talking
about your playing days, I want to ask, did you

(01:58:07):
have any rituals in game or prior to the game
that you kind of conducted on a regular basis. Yeah,
have a couple of cup of coffee, small, a cup
of coffee before when I when I get ready to
go to the game, you know, like hotel, room, coffee whatever.
I bring that up because former Met and Yankee slugger
Darryl Strawberry was on The Doctor Oz Show today. Listen

(01:58:31):
to this. You actually, in the middle of games were
so addicted to sex that you would actually go out
and have sex in between innings. Yeah. It was pretty crazy,
you know, I was. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, it
was pretty crazy lifestyle. You know. Uh, in the middle
of games. Yeah, I would go between anis and stuff
like that, and and and run back and you know,
have a little party going on. And you know, I

(01:58:51):
thought it was pretty cool. I mean, that's just the
Dixon the drive. Your teammates and coaches did they not know? Well,
some of them covered from me. He's been sober for
ten years. A lot of a lot of down, a
lot of downtime in uh in baseball, I guess, huh. Yeah.
The crazy thing was he was actually married to a
friend of mine's sister during part of this part of

(01:59:12):
this period time. I'm sure some of it she knows,
but some of it's just not like being exposed on
national TV. Um. You know, he's been sober for ten years.
I think Darrell's made right you know, trying to do
right by his life. I'm not a huge sex addiction guy. Like,
I don't know if you'd right like Tiger Woods. Yeah,
I mean I think I think you like it and

(01:59:36):
when you can get more of it, if you don't
have the ability to say no, I don't know. When
do you believe that sex addiction is real? When I
see John Ramos, yes, come on now, go back to
college basketball real quick. Former Louisville recruit Brian Bowen, one

(01:59:56):
of the key figures in the FBI investigation into the
college basketb all deny us having any knowledge of an
alleged payment involving Adidas Louisville and also his father to
steer him towards the Cardinals. You said quote, I was
shocked to find out about the investigation. I didn't believe
it at all. They have to be lying. There's no
way I'm involved in any of this. Yes, all right,

(02:00:19):
don't believe you? I mean, like, do I think players
are bought and sold by their parents without them knowing? Sure,
But I also think that there are kids that have
their hands out and that's how you find out, and
they know when they you know, everybody knows what kid
has their hands out. I mean he might not have
known the exact detail and figures or whatever, but the
will take care of you and take care of your pops.

(02:00:39):
I do think it's probably uttered all right. Last one
before we get out of here. The NFL told the
officials today they're not allowed to use folded cards anymore
when they measure first downs. That's after what transpired Sunday
night between the Cowboys and the Oakland Raiders. I didn't
mind the use of the card. It just reaffirmed what
he saw. He's like, yeah, it's it's touching the thing, Like, no,
it's not, Yes it is, you're the card. Jean Salvatore.

(02:01:03):
I guess that's the last of the card. Doesn't mean
you can't use the hat or the shoelace or dental flush,
just no more cards.

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