June 25, 2018 • 39 mins
With Doug out, Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox fill in and tell you why the NBA waiting until after the season is completely over to give out their awards makes them less meaningful. They also discuss Kawhi Leonard’s situation with the Spurs and why things have completely fallen apart. Plus, MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show to try and explain why Bryce Harper is struggling so much this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the show on Fox Sports Radio,
and John Ramos is here as settling in on a
Monday where we've got a little bit more World Cup action.
We'll find out by the end of the week who
the Round of sixteen is. We'll also find out by
the end of the week whether Lebron James will opt
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in or out of his contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
But tonight we'll find out. They don't have to wait
till the end of the week to find out. Tonight
we will find out who the NBA's Most Valuable Player
is as the what is this? The second annual NBA
Awards show will be taking place. It happens tonight in
Santa Monica. A bunch of awards being handed out tonight.
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Six Man of the Year has been uh talked about,
Rookie of the Year, a big conversation with Ben Simmons
or Donovan Mitchell. But also tonight the granddaddy of them
all if you will for awards, the end be as
Most Valuable Player award gets handed out and Jonas it
is between James Harden, Lebron James and Anthony Davis for
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the league's most Valuable Player Honor. It's just it's stunning
to me. Dan absolutely stunnying that Carmarlo and Anthony is
not on that list. I think he got screwed. And
now you wonder why e t opted in on the contract.
He felt jaded and he wanted to get his money.
Um in all seriousness, though, why is this really like
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even needing needing to be an award? Everybody understands it's
James Harden. Why is this a production? I don't understand that.
We all sort of get the idea that it's gonna
be James Harden's. Yeah. The I think the NBA, and
to go back on the on the timing of how
this all played out, the NBA saw the success of
the NFL Honors, the program that they do the night
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before the Super Bowl and you get all the players
and maybe unfortunately, and I hate to admit this because
I think gets the dumbest thing on earth. I think
gets so stupid. Maybe they also all why some people
like the SPS, and I think the SPS are just
it is the worst sports programming of the sixty five
days of the year, next next to the Little League
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World Series. It's the worst thing on television. I'm not kidding.
I would rather watch I would rather watch Southeast play
Northwest in a Little League game than watch you got
Best Male Golf Performance. Um, okay, great. I watched golf
all year, but I saw who won the US Open
and who won the Masters. But you guys gave an award,
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so now I know who it is. Yeah, it's terrible. Um.
I get the idea that they want to capitalize and
they want to look at what The NFL didn't have
these award shows, and it's nice to have it after
the fact. There's a reason though, that the NFL and
Roger Goodell moved the Pro Bowl from after the Super
Bowl to before the Super Bowl. The idea was, why
would you want your season to end on an exhibition,
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So why would you want your season to end on
an award show. It just doesn't make sense. The last
thing I want to remember about the and n b
A is what happened in the finals, not who is
wearing what on the red carpet. When they got most
Valuable Player in the third quarter of the Thursday night game,
I just don't care. Just another way to maybe seell
commercials during a TV spot and it's it's Because of
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this new format, Jonas that I think we look at
the Most Valuable Player Award in a different light than
we ever have before, and I think that that is
a detriment to James Harden for the simple fact of Jonas,
in previous years, we would look back at the m
v P when it would be announced at some point
during the NBA playoffs. That would happen, I don't know,
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first round or maybe in the conference semifinals. You would
have a press conference end with the player and that
player would receive the trophy. And in more times than not,
the in the NBA, if you're the most Valuable Player,
you have taken your team to the playoffs. So a
lot of times you would get the player receiving the
award in front of the home fans prior to a
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playoff game and everybody would be, you know, going and great.
You could have that pregame ceremony and that's how we
would find out who the mv n B a m
v P is and we probably then got lost in
the outcome of what those teams did with the playoffs.
But because of this NBA Award show, James Harden is
now a victim. And how how I feel he is
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going to be viewed as an m v P because
we saw what Lebron James did for the Cavaliers in
the playoffs the Pelicans, maybe to Anthony Davis's benefit, We're
eliminated in the Western Conference semifinals, so we kind of
forgot about what the playoff run or what happened against
the Warriors. Maybe we look at what Anthony Davis did
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during the season. The only thing we remember now about
the Houston Rockets season wasn't about the most wins, wasn't
about how great James Harden's season was. It was they
were up three two on the Golden State Warriors of
the Western Conference Finals, lost Chris Paul and then lost
the series. And now you're gonna give him an MVP award,
and you're saying, we'll wait a second. He couldn't get
his team to win a game six or or to
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win a game seven. That'sn't have been fair to James Harden.
And I'm not a fan of a separate like wait
till the wait, wait till the playoffs are done to
give the m v P. No, you have a regular
season m VP and you have your finals MVP. That's fine,
it's good. It's it's the timing of all of this
that's gonna make James Harden's MVP seems watered down because
of what they didn't do in the playoffs. The whole
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thing is just awkward. Which what's gonna happen with Dwyne Casey?
I mean, if Dwayne Casey wins Coach of the Year,
it's just awkward. Nobody, no, nobody takes it serious because
of what you saw happen and because of all that
has happened in the NBA since the last whistle and
the clock ran out in Game four the Finals, so
much has happened that the awards, it's like, it's just awkward.
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It's an awkward watch, Like Dwayne Casey's gonna what except
the award and uh and be wearing a Pistons blazer
when he does it for a winning head coach for
the former team that he used to coach for that
he was recently fired from. But he's so winning, Like
the whole thing is just awkward. The same thing with
James Harden. Like, I think the NBA has got to
rethink how they're doing it, or at least tell some
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of these teams. Hey, if you're gonna fire somebody, or
if you're going to expose one of these guys, just
remember their up for an award. So can you wait
until after we're done? Just wait until Tuesday after the
awards so we can make all these moves. It just
it doesn't make any sense to me, and all anybody
remembers James Harden's season was great, awesome, good for him.
All anybody remembers to your point is him coming up
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short in the Western Conference finals and after the playoff
run Lebron James had. Nobody in the right mind would
tell you that James Harden is the most valuable player
of the league. But they want you to remember that
this is just for the regular season, and we're going
all the way back. If it's just for the regular season,
do it right after the regular season. It's it's uncomfortable,
it's awkward. It's two plus months since the NBA regular
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season ended, and you mentioned the doing Casey move, and
we talked about James Harden, heck the rookie of the year.
The last part of the regular season. All we did
was argue about well, I shouldn't say. All we did
was argue about. But somehow the NBA Rookie of the
Year award became an important award and we were arguing
over Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell and who should be
the NBA's Rookie of the Year. Guess what Jason Tatum
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is up for that as well. And now after you
look back of what's happened over the last two months,
really who seemed who was probably most important at least
during the playoffs. That's sure's X team that Jason Tatum
was the most important of those three players to his team.
And so it is a it is a bad spot
for the NBA and and last year Jonas when Russell
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Westbrook ended up winning the m v P, we could
look back at he was a one man show, like
the late announcement didn't hurt him. This is now changing.
I I think this is it's a different feel. It
changes the perception. I think when James Harden and I
agree with you will win the m v P tonight,
it makes it a different look and it doesn't seem
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as important as what we would usually do with most
of label players in the three biggest awards at this
ceremony or what m v P Coach of the Year
in Rookie of the Year, would you say, all right,
everybody who's about to win was exposed as not being
the best at their job in the postseason, and that's
what just took place. The whole thing should be scrapped. Okay,
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the Rookie of the Year, if it goes to Ben
Simmons or if it goes to Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum
was better than both of them in the postseason. Ben
Simmons scored a point in a game, not like a
couple of points, a single point in a playoff game.
Donovan Mitchell's team didn't go very far, and Dwayne Casey
was fired after the season because he got swept by Lebron.
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James and James Harden came up short again. Lebron took
his team to the finals and played almost every minute
of certain games during the postseason run. Everyone, all the
winners of all three categories were exposed in the postseason,
But we're supposed to believe that they're the best at
each of those categories. Just it dumb. Whole thing's dumb.
It doesn't make sense. I'd even argue that if Anthony
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Davis won tonight which is probably not going to he
would get. He gets a much bigger lift than James
Harden would because we forgot, you know, about what they did.
But also Jonas, we're forgetting. If Lebron James would with
the m v P tonight, it would give him five
and he would tie Michael Jordan's for five most valuable
players in his career. So every we talked about it
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all the time, MJ. Heck, we made fun of it
last week, m J versus Lebron and how that went,
like that would mean something to Lebron the other candidate,
and all of this. It really is going to burn
James Harden in the end because of what ended up happening.
And this is Major League Baseball saying, all right, we're
gonna announce our m v P and Cy Young Award
winners between the college football playoff games, you know, two
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months after the fact. Why not why not wait until
late December and sort it all out, or hey, Thanksgiving Day,
we'll tell you who the m v P is right
after the Cowboys and Redskins Fox, why not? Why not
do something like that, because that's essentially what the NBA
is doing. It's been over the season regular season has
been over since mid April. We're now at the end
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of June. That's almost two and a half months that
we've waited for these awards. That's what you get for baseball. Heck,
right after the selection show, find out who the m
v P is of the NFL. Say Happy fourth of July, everybody,
It's September eighteenth. Jonas unbelievable. Oh man, but yeah, it's
it's it's crazy to think, but James harden Is his
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m v P is gonna end up being not as
important as the other They have a stupid award show
at the end of the season two and a half
months after we forgot that the Rockets ended up having
the best record in the entire NBA. Be sure to
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NBA Radio and founder of Hoops Critic and NBA TV,
Brian Geltziler joines this year on The Doug gott Leap Show. Hey, Brian,
how you doing. I'm good, guys are doing We are
doing well. I'll just fill you in on what Jonas
and I spoke about at the top of the show,
and that's this NBA Awards show tonight where we're gonna
find out who's gonna win the m v P and
we both feel that it's going to be James Harden's
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award at the end of the night. Do you feel
that this award is going to be looked at differently
now knowing what we know about what happened to the
Rockets postseason, because it seemed Brian all those other years
when the awards were handed out pretty early in the playoffs,
we weren't looking at playoff performance. Do you think the
timing of this award show changes anything about James Harden's
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m v P. No, because the timing of the voting
hasn't changed, and this is the second year we've done
it this way. The voting is done at the end
of the regular season. It's not like the writers that
vote are the media guys a vote for the sure
get the benefit of seeing what happened in the playoffs.
Understand the only question of the announcement and listen, I
think last year Westbrook on the award, I think was
looked at the same way and I think this you listen,
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it's not a hard and performed poorly in the playoffs.
They made it the game seven of the conference finals
and wants to the the eventual champ and most our second
best player for those last two games, So listen. I
mean it was hard, unbelievable. In the playoffs, he wasn't
but he had a massive burden on a minute, and
I thought he handled things by and large pretty well,
and I think it was one of the better playoffs.
He said. He certainly had some really miserable ones in
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the past, So listen. I think I think it was
his word, a word to lose from a very early
stage of this season. He did nothing to lose it
matter if I could probably get more to earn it,
and I think you'll regardless of what we saw in
the playoffs, I don't think that perception changes even one
iota going into tonight. Brian Gell Tyler with us here
on Fox Sports Radio series x M NBA Radio, also
the founder of hoops Critic dot Com Guilt's Lebron James.
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There was a report that came out that he doesn't
want the circus quote unquote this time. This time around
feels a lot different because he wasn't dealing with Golden State.
There's a lot of other factors that are weighing in
on the family, all of that stuff. What do you think,
what do you think is paramount for Lebron James at
this point in his career? What is paramount on on
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his decision and where he wants to go? And Jonas's
hard to tell. I mean, I think on one hand,
I know he enjoys playing in the NBA finals at
eight consecutive years and nine overall, I you know, that
is something he does enjoy. But he's also always been
a family oriented guy and none of that has ever changed.
And now he is a situation with his son, Brownie,
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who's thirteen years old, is enrolled to the school in
l A to play on a team with Derek Fisher's nephew,
Kingman Martin's kid, Scotty Tipton's kid. There's, you know, it's
a very interesting situation there, and I think he looks
at l A as being a place where his family
would love to live. I think his family would be
like the actor as well, So in the end, I
think that's gonna be kind of what he's looking at now,
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you know, find somebody to go to l A with
him and get a running buddy there. That would be sure,
that would be ideal for him. But I think it's
gonna be a different. One of the signs that it's
going to be a very different criteria in terms of
what he decides on and what he's using to decide
is the fact that he doesn't want to talk in
Tony Show. For everybody, listen, Lebron James is he's a
very bright guy. He's probably a little smarter. He's not
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as smart as he thinks he is, but he's very smart.
But he kind of find the figures. He can look
at each of these teams, know what they need, identify
himself without them having to make the pictures to him.
In the end, Listen, it's gonna be one or two places.
It's gonna be either l A or Cleveland. I'm not
buying any of the Philly stuff. That's an ownership that's
never spent into the luxury tax that is a requirement
for Lebrons. It's Miami cheap Dad on him in fourteen
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in terms of of amasteing Mike Miller to say fourteen million.
So you have that situation in terms of money, and
with Houston, they're just they would have to cut the
roster too much and he would be you know, and
and Lebron really, I don't think he wants to live
in that city from all indications I hear. So in
the end, it's gonna be about his family, and the
question becomes is what the two big questions are A,
what are the Calves willing to do to upgrade that
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roster around him? And d is he willing to go
to l A without another star? Those are the two
larger questions to me regarding what's going to happen in
Lebron's free agency. We get answers to those two questions
will be a pretty good idea where he's gonna go.
Brian Gell Tyler joining us here at the Doug Gallup
Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks, I'm da
Empire in for Doug today. How long do you think
the Spurs are gonna take to to decide what to
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do with Kawhi Leonard. It's probably gonna go well into August,
but I don't think they're gonna break training cramp him
on the team because Kauai does not want to be
back in that locker room. And I think for the Spurs,
they'll tell him that they'll keep him all year and
try to stare them down a little bit to see
if they can get him to expand his list. But
in the end they understand that going to camp with
him is not gonna work for them. It's not definitely
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not gonna work for Kauai, but it's not gonna work
for them. And if he doesn't show, they got to
find him, and this whole thing starts to go on
and on and on, and then their leverage starts to
weaken as he doesn't show. So I don't know that
they want to risk that, but I do know this,
They're gonna wait to see what the Lakers do superstar
wise before they make up move on trading Kauai, Because
if the Lakers strike out here, if Lebron James, of
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Paul George, if DeMarcus Cousins of none of those three
guys decide to choose the Lakers and their cap space,
san Antonio will go back to the Lakers and try
to pend him over a barrel a little bit to
make a deal. I think I think that are looking
for a day they feel like with what Kauai is
laid on them in terms of the Lakers really being
the only destination he'd have an interest in resigning. And
they're looking at this situation as well, what do we
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do to have to lean on Kawai to get him
to expand the list and making him wait a little
bit is going to get him to expand the list.
So that's the other thing that happens here. So I
wouldn't expect anything to happen at any early stage with
the Spurs here. I think they take their time with
those whole Kauai things, but they will end up moving
in this offseason. There's so many reports that are Brian
Galtzeiler serious x M NBA Radio with us here on
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Fox Sports Radio. So many of these reports come out
every day, so you don't know which is accurate, which
is just somebody pulling the strings for somebody's camp. But
when the lead comes out and they say Kawhi Leonard
wants to go to the Lakers and he narrows down
his list, and you've pointed out until the list grows,
they kind of shot themselves in the foot, right Kauai's
people by only saying I'll go to one team at least.
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Kyrie Irving a year ago gave you know, a few
teams that he would consider. It's almost made things impossible.
And I saw an other report that said, well, they
don't want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team
or or to a Western Conference woman that that report
that I don't believe that report to be true. So
so okay, so are you buying? Just well, let me
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explain to you you a little bit. First of all, you
gotta Kauai. Kauai does not have an entourage or a
big group around. He has an agent that works for him.
He has his sister, his mom, and his uncle who
he bound to see decisions off with. You know, he's
very close with his uncle is an extremely close adviser
of his. But understand something, Jonas, this is in his
camp or his people. This is him talking to his
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family and him telling his family he's made a decision.
He wants to leave and go to the Lakers and Kauai.
He was it leaked by by his you know, his family.
Did they leak it at Kauai's behest? Absolutely do if
that information is out there right now, because a Kauai
Leonard wants it out there. And I don't think he
shot himself in the foot at all, because Kauai is
fine to be traded anywhere they want to trade them,
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or in the other thing, is this camp for at
this possibility is opt for surgery on that quad pendant
after all this time? Yet that does sit to you
out and end up going to the Lakers of us
And at the end of the year, he's content to
play anywhere they put him as long as he'll have
the option to go to the Lakers the following year.
So he doesn't think he shot himself on the foot
at all. He's not even worried about it for him
right now, and he knows where he wants to get to.
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He's determined to get there by whatever means possible. And
he looks Great Papovich and told him I want be
there anymore. I don't wanna be with you anymore. I
he does. They have turned him off sufficiently, so I
don't think he's done any more to himself at all.
I think, if anything, he's put himself in an extremely
advantageous position because he does want out. The Spurs aren't
in a good position. The Spurs certainly have a tough
spotty here, and the Spurs run the risk of either
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a getting nothing for a guy that optstaff surgery or
be having to find a guy that doesn't show up
or se trade him somewhere. You don't want to trade
him for cents on the dollar. So if he was,
he's done. Essentially he hasn't done anything to himself. Is
that the San Antonio Spurs, who in his eyes horrifically
disrespected him and having players quit publicly questioned the veracity
of a very gitimate injury, having the Spurs medical staff
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who misdiagnosed it in the first place, cleared him to
play when his own personal doctors still have not yet
cleared him to play. They totally disagree with his own
doctors on on the condition he has a condition in
his tendant. It's not just an injury, it's a chronic
condition that he's to be managed and treated and that's
to be brought back to a hundred percent before you
start to put that strain on it again. That is
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what his medical people are telling him. So the Spurs
here and their frustration and wanting him out there because
Parker and Ginobili were on their last run with the
Spurs last season tried to totally smoke him out by
embarrassing him, and it really was a very bad look
for them. It was a bad look for Parker, It
was a bad look for Greg Papa that standing in
front of in front of a press corps talking about
it his quokieback Kwai's family that it's his group, which
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almost was I know for a fact from Kauai was
taking a lot in the same way that Lebron James
took the Phil Jackson posse combat the Spurs. The Spurs
preached to Kauai Leonard his entire early years in the
league when he won a Finals MVP, we have a
certain way to do business, okay. Our way of doing
business is we first of all, accept blame and the
flect credit, and our laundry stays in house, and we
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don't watch our laundry in public. They violated both of
those rules with Kawhi Leonard. They put blame on him
for their season not going better by going public with this,
and they went public with something they've never gone public
with anybody before. Keep one thing in mind, guys, two
other guys in the Spurs era, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.
Both have one finals MVPs. Both have been injured at
certain points in time. Neither of them have ever had
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a teammate endorsed by management go question the veracity of
their injury publicly. The Spurs are getting exactly what they deserve.
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Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app. Last year, James Harden finished second in the
m v P voting to also Westbrook. The guy that
finished third Kawhi Leonard, who's got his own situation with
the San Antonio Spurs happening. We mentioned Brian geltz Adler's name.
The serious XM radio host and the guy you can
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see on NBA TV joined us earlier to talk about
Kauai situation with his current and probably soon to be
former team, the San Antonio Spurs first reached the Kawhi
Leonard his entire early years in the league when he
won a Finals MVP. We have a certain way of
doing business, Okay. Our way of doing business is we
first of all, accept blame and the flect credit, and
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our laundry stays in house, and we don't watch our
laundry in public. They violated both of those rules of
Kawhi Leonard. They put blame on him for their season
not going better by going public with this, and they
went public with something they've never gone public with anybody before.
Keep one thing of mind. Guys too, Other guys in
the Spurs era, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker both have
won finals MVPs. Both have been injured at certain points
in time. Neither of them have ever had a teammate
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endorsed by management go question the veracity of their injury publicly.
The Spurs are getting exactly what they deserve here. Wow.
I then, since Brian's not with us, I completely disagree. Yeah,
that's I. I don't I don't look at it that way.
As I we talked about this last week. Tony Parker,
I think was speaking as a veteran who had zero
rodeos or maybe one rodeo left in the same thing
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with Monto Genoble, who's thought about retirement over the last
three years. Maybe the Spurs didn't go out and shoot
down what Monto Genoble and Tony Parker were saying, but
they didn't need a pushing from the organization to go
out and say what they had to say. They're veterans
who have been with the organization for ten fifteen plus
years with the likes of Tim Duncan, and this is
different than they've ever experienced. So I have no problem
with them speaking. You posed a question to me last
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week when we were doing the show, and you said,
whose fault is it? If you had to put blame
on somebody, either the Spurs or Kawhi Leonard, whose fault
would it be? And I didn't really think about it
because I try not to do the blame game, except
if there's a counter to somebody getting the blame, Like
I think the fact that the surrounding pieces are getting
the blame for Lebron James is struggle in the playoffs.
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I think that's a joke. He's the reason the surrounding
pieces are there, so he deserves equal blame. But I
try not to make a blame on on a certain
subject in sports because sometimes people just don't want to
play on a team, or they want away from a
team and whatever. That's just life. But the more I
thought about it, if you were to ask me initially
over again, my gut react, my initial reaction would be, yeah,
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you know, I'm gonna side with Kawhi Leonard on this.
Based on his reputation. He's never been a pain in
the ass, He's always been seemingly a good teammate. He
doesn't like drama, doesn't cause trouble. I would side with
Kawhi Leonard based on reputation. And the more I thought
about it, it's like, hold on a second. The Spurs
have been the best run organization in the NBA for
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about two decades now, all of a sudden, they don't
know how to do things anymore. Like all of a sudden,
it's them that's not able to figure out how to
handle a superstar. It's like when the when the Malcolm
Butler bill Bill Belichick fiasco happened at the Super Bowl,
everybody blaming Belichick. I said, wait, hold on, say it
all of a sudden, the greatest coach in the history
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of the league just forgot how to manage personnel right
before the Super Bowl. It seems a little far fetched.
And if the more I look at it, the more
I think, and you're hearing other players and former Spurs
come out and defend their organization, which makes sense in
its own But the more I think about it, we're
only saying that Kawai Leonard is in the right here
based on his reputation. We're not factoring in the Spurs
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have had a longer reputation of success in the NBA,
and it's a little puzzling to me why everybody is
signing with Kauai here. It's bizarre. I I don't get
it either. And I think that even the last year
with the LaMarcus Aldrid situation, which I think is a
very very important piece to what is happening with Kawai Leonard,
is that LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't happy, rumored to want out,
so Greg Popovitch changed what they were doing in San
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Antonio to make it work for LaMarcus Aldridge. And LaMarcus
Aldridge is having his best or had his best season
as a Spur, so the Spurs actually showed flexibility and
the really need to look in the mirror and say,
you know what, maybe we've we've had this great run.
Maybe I've got to do a little something different here.
And that's what I think also supports their case with
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Kawhi Leonard is heck, they've they've they've had him in
camp from the get go when they when they ended
up making the trade with the Pacers to to bring
in Kauai Leonard on on Draft night and have that
piece to be a part of the organization. He's been
through rodeos with them, so he knows how the organization works.
And I think that they felt that they had a
better opportunity to even talk it through with him than
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they did with La Marcus Aldrid. So I don't blame
the San Antonio Spurs for really any of this. It's
it's it seems to be Kauai and it seems to
be the parties that are around him. Be sure to
catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. And now, all right,
(25:52):
because Doug's not here, we still will take something interesting
that was said from other Fox Sports Radio or Fox
Sports one and play it back to you and earlier
today what the reason why Doug's not here is because
he was in on the Herd for Colin Cowherd on
Fox Sports Radio and had this to say about Carmelo
Anthony opting in on his contract with the Oklahoma City
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thunder All Carmelo Anthony had to do instead of haters
gonna hate, instead of offering up that anyone who doesn't
like him or agree with him opting in, or anyone
who who thinks that he can't win, instead of saying, hey,
you should um kiss another region of my body? Right,
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instead of that, why not simply say I'm staying Hey,
Paul George, you staying all in on Oklahoma City. Let's
go anything it takes to win a championship. That from
Doug Gottlieb earlier today on the criticis is him that
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Carmelo Anthony was taking And I guess his retorts on
social media and on Twitter about him opting to the
in the final year of the contract that's going to
pay him twenty seven million dollars. At least he was honest, man.
I much rather have that than some guys say. Listen,
I'm all about winning and this is this is my
most the most important thing to me is is bringing
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a championship to the city. Cool? Will you play for
six hunder grand? Absolutely not, you're kidding me and definitely not.
At least he's honest about it. I'm doing it for
the money. Well sorry, yeah. I don't know if anybody
has been critical of him not taking the money. I
think what they are is just being critical of his game.
And it's almost two different conversations, like Oklahoma City knows
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what they've got with Carmelo Anthony and Carmelo Anthony knows
what he's got in his contract. So well, Melo opts
in all of us as professionals, would say, Okay, I
can get twenty seven million dollars next year, or I
could look for money somewhere else and not be as
much as you said six hud thousand dollars. Or somebody
wants to pay him three million dollars next year. Yeah, no, Dub,
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you're going to take it. I don't think anybody here
is saying, oh, that's a bad you know, why why
would you do that? No one is saying it's a
bad business move. They just feel that he's stealing money.
And that's you know, that's the Nixt problem, that's the
Thunders problem. That's their their own situation to deal. But
why do you think let me ask you this, why
do you think people dislike Carmelo Anthony? Because I've always
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been I've always been curious about that. What has he
really done wrong? I mean, as a guy, everybody picks
on him and they take shots at him all the time.
I understand his marriage and all whatever you want to
say about that, that's his personal life, but just him himself,
why do people dislike him? I think it's because, and
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I'm just I'm just guessing, is that he is such
a one dimensional player that and I'm I'm trying to
guess you like, you know, he doesn't play defense, He's
not going to get other guys involved. It seems to
always be about him and his scoring numbers and his shots,
and that's what it seems to always be. I feel
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about why he gets that reputation because it almost feels
like a like nobody really has a good reason because
to say and I'm not saying that you are, but
if people were to say well, he's a selfish ballplayer.
If you were to make a list of all the
selfish players in NBA history, you'd have a long list
and you still be working on it a year later.
There's a lot of selfish players in the history of
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the league. I think he's one of those people that
fans and people in media like to pick on and dislike,
but they can't really give you a legitimate reason why
he's like Jay Cutler, like, why do you really dislike him? Well, because, um,
you don't really have a good reason. There's no there's
no real reason there. I think it's because of his
talent that he did have, but he was so set
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in his ways that he wouldn't adjust to anything, like
he had to get his own way, and that was
going to be the way, whether it meant winning or not.
With championships, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app. John MORROSSI joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, John,
(30:19):
how's it going. I'm doing great, gentlemen. Happy summer to
both of you and all of our listeners out there.
And yes, this season has absolutely flowing by, but does
some great storylines brewing all on the bet. I'm going
to start off with this, who's the best team in
the National League. That is a great question because I
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don't have an answer, well my answer right now, I
would tell you this, it's the Los Angeles Dodgers. And
I've given this some thought. You look, on the morning
of May seventeen, the Dodgers were ten games under five
hundred and eight and a half games out of first
place in the NASH League West. Since that day May
seventeenth until now, they've got the best record in the
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major leagues and now they're finally healthy. So I would
go with that answer and say that you have to
include what happened last year. This is not just a
quick snapshot of what the standing looked like right now.
You look at the larger sample size of performance, and
with so many of the same players that came within
one game and and really one rally of of winning
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the World Series last year, I would say the answer
to that question is Los Angeles Dodgers. H John Palmrossi
with us here on Fox Sports Radio. John, the slump
that Bryce Harper is in, is it just your standard typical.
This is a normal thing. It's a slump. Every player
goes through this. Or is there a feeling from people
you talk to there's something more to the story. Well,
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here's here's the interesting part about this, Jones. I. I
spoke with some agents last week, so not and Scott
Boris was not one of them. This was a an
independent panel of that I had canvassed to ask what
they thought about Bryce's struggles. Now he's been hitting below
to twenty here for some time now, and I said, listen,
is this going to cost him a lot of money? What? What?
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What does his contract actually look like when all of
a sudden done based on how he has played? And
the answer to that question was they still thinking. And
three different agents who are not his agents told me
they still think he gets three hundred million dollars based
on his age and based on the projection, and based
on the belief that the modeling that so much of
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these decisions is based on. Now, the modeling will tell
the owners and the gms that you should not look
at a bad couple of months and say that that's
going to be indicative of the way he plays for
the next ten years, which is really fascinating because I
think for all of us, you look at certain players
Mike Mustakas for example, this fast offseason, the market simply
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has not been there for players that we all look
at and say, well, they put up the numbers, why
isn't it working out for them. Well, in the case
of Bryce, certainly, he's put up historically very good numbers
and he's still as um one of the highest home
run totals in the major leagues this season. UM, but
the average is down in the two teams or the
two twenties, which is just hard to fathom for a
player of that of that caliber. Do I think he's
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pressing a little bit? Yes, I think it was well
documented last night on Sunday Night Baseball and and last
week on the end of the network. Just he's he
is drifting a bit more than he usually does. Usually
does that a fair amount is part of his normal swing,
but it's happening now to a large extent, and he's
really vulnerable away and I think that until something changes
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with him, the numbers and the strikeouts book continue to
be there. That being said, he had a big night
last night for the Nationals on National TV, so maybe
that gets him going again, but the summer year is teams,
based on their analytical approach, will look at his age
and the numbers he's put up already and say they
believe he is going to bounce back. John Rossi joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlip Show.
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He's Jonas Knox. I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug today.
It's on him, isn't it? The Bryce Harper, I mean,
the Nationalists, I mean, I love the move to get
Kelvin Herrera when I don't even know if they needed
bullpen help. We know a good Max Scherzer is and
what they've got at the top of the rotation. Is
it on him if they don't make the postseason? Well,
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that's really it's a tough question, and it's a good question.
I think that he has to be one of their
best players. He has to be. And the fascinating thing
is you look at this the way he's played this season,
um and and the totality of it, even by some
of the advanced metrics, has wins the buf replacement of
even factor in the defense. He has not been all
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that exceptional in that regard either, So um, if they
missed the playoffs, is that Bryce Harper's fault, it would
be I think a certain percentage would be his responsibility.
I think part of it, too is the injuries, Steven
Strasburg being out, Zimmerman being out, That they've dealt with
injuries really all season long. Kellison has missed time, Kedrick
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has missed time, Kincler just got back today, Joe Ross
is out. So I think there will be many factors
if the Nationals missed the playoffs, but certainly if Harper
finishes the year batting and the two teams and the
Nationals do not make the playoffs, I think it would
be relatively easy and probably relatively correct to say that
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Harper is a big reason why. John Palmerosi, MLB Network,
Fox Sports One, Fox Sports Radio, MLB Insider with us
here on FS are if somebody maybe hasn't been paying
attention to baseball and they've been watching the NBA or
doing other things, and they were to just start tuning
in over the past couple of weeks and you had
to catch them up on the most fascinating story going
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in Major League Baseball right now, what's your answer? Well,
first of all, shame on you if that's the case
shame it also. And by the way, we had too
great we had the NBA playoffs were fantastic, last fantastic.
I I kid, of course, but I think, to me,
it's it's Mike Trout being better than ever and continuing
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to defy um any logical um framework for statistics and
modern days. He he just simply does not make outs.
And I think for him, I root for this because
I love the game. I root for him to become
a a larger crossover star in in baseball, and I
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think that it's important. I I like to say this
and make this point. It's not the fact that he's
not as ubiquitous and Lebron James um is not his fault.
It's not baseball's fault. There's a lot of factors there.
But I think that you start in terms of becoming
a crossover sports icon in our country by winning championships.
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Derek Jeter would not have been Derek Jeter had he
not been a Yankee and won all those World Series
so early in his career. Mike Trout has played three
playoff games in his career and he has lost them all.
At some point time that has to change and he
can win the All Star Game MVP as he's done before. Uh,
he needs to have postseason success. So I think this year,
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for me, I'm really curious to see does he finally
get his team to the playoffs again for one of
the second time and once he gets there, does he
start to build his legend in a way that casual
sports fans will become fans of Mike Trout. I think
that's a key storyline for baseball. Also, Um, we were
there at Fenway over the weekend, uh, Mariners and Red
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Sox and the Mariners. Uh that they won the game
that we had on Fox on Saturday, but they have
scuffled a bit lately. I still like the chances for
that team to make the playoffs for the first time
since two thousand one, and that's the longest playoff rout
all the four major sports in our country. The Buffalo Bills,
of course, that they abdicated that role to the Mariners
after the last football season, So I think to me,
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having the Mariners relevant again reminds me of my youth
and watching highlights of Griffey and a Rod and what
a fun team that was. When Seattle is engaged in
a baseball city, the game is better for it. And And
I think that right now we're seeing that in the
great city of Seattle, Washington, JP. How many years in
a row have you picked the Mariners to make the
playof So here's the funny story that Jone said. And
I'm glad you mentioned it because you and I have
worked there for a long time. You and I have
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worked there for a long time, so you're aware of this.
I picked them every year. And in fact, there was
one year on MLB Network that that we were doing
a season preview show and Greg Amsinger said, John, you
gotta have a pick that's gonna surprise me. And and
because no one was picking the marriage, and I said,
the Mariners are gonna win the American Lake West and
Greg said, I refused to accept your answer. You must
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pick another one because you picked them every year. So
it's a long running joke. Well, then this year I said,
on opening Day, congratulations to the Mariner fans. I said
this on Twitter, by the way, you can you can
look it up as they say that the congratulations of
the Mariner fans because this time, for the first time
in five years, I am not gonna pick you. So
I wish to congratulate you on winning the World Series,
and here they are now on their way to the playoffs.
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I've got I've got family in the great city of Seattle,
so I've got, you know, a lot of relationships there,
and I love the city so that there may be
a small part of me that that would love to
see them make the the playoffs. And I've kind of
said that to my my friends there and family there,
so um, we'll see if it works out. But maybe
maybe a bit of a reverse psychology to bring some
joy that my family lives in a great city. I'll
tell you what it's done. The America League playoff teams
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are already set. It's over with. You don't even need
the second half of the season. It's going to be
what it would be right now, John Rossie, I know
you gotta run. Thanks so much for the time. We
appreciate it, and we'll be watching on NMLB network and
seeing you on Fox and hearing them here. Appreciate it. John,
My pleasure. Guys. Always love talking to you guys, and
we'll we'll cut up again soon, Okay, all right,
This is the best of the show on Fox Sports Radio,
and John Ramos is here as settling in on a
Monday where we've got a little bit more World Cup action.
We'll find out by the end of the week who
the Round of sixteen is. We'll also find out by
the end of the week whether Lebron James will opt
(00:22):
in or out of his contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
But tonight we'll find out. They don't have to wait
till the end of the week to find out. Tonight
we will find out who the NBA's Most Valuable Player
is as the what is this? The second annual NBA
Awards show will be taking place. It happens tonight in
Santa Monica. A bunch of awards being handed out tonight.
(00:46):
Six Man of the Year has been uh talked about,
Rookie of the Year, a big conversation with Ben Simmons
or Donovan Mitchell. But also tonight the granddaddy of them
all if you will for awards, the end be as
Most Valuable Player award gets handed out and Jonas it
is between James Harden, Lebron James and Anthony Davis for
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the league's most Valuable Player Honor. It's just it's stunning
to me. Dan absolutely stunnying that Carmarlo and Anthony is
not on that list. I think he got screwed. And
now you wonder why e t opted in on the contract.
He felt jaded and he wanted to get his money.
Um in all seriousness, though, why is this really like
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even needing needing to be an award? Everybody understands it's
James Harden. Why is this a production? I don't understand that.
We all sort of get the idea that it's gonna
be James Harden's. Yeah. The I think the NBA, and
to go back on the on the timing of how
this all played out, the NBA saw the success of
the NFL Honors, the program that they do the night
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before the Super Bowl and you get all the players
and maybe unfortunately, and I hate to admit this because
I think gets the dumbest thing on earth. I think
gets so stupid. Maybe they also all why some people
like the SPS, and I think the SPS are just
it is the worst sports programming of the sixty five
days of the year, next next to the Little League
(02:09):
World Series. It's the worst thing on television. I'm not kidding.
I would rather watch I would rather watch Southeast play
Northwest in a Little League game than watch you got
Best Male Golf Performance. Um, okay, great. I watched golf
all year, but I saw who won the US Open
and who won the Masters. But you guys gave an award,
(02:30):
so now I know who it is. Yeah, it's terrible. Um.
I get the idea that they want to capitalize and
they want to look at what The NFL didn't have
these award shows, and it's nice to have it after
the fact. There's a reason though, that the NFL and
Roger Goodell moved the Pro Bowl from after the Super
Bowl to before the Super Bowl. The idea was, why
would you want your season to end on an exhibition,
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So why would you want your season to end on
an award show. It just doesn't make sense. The last
thing I want to remember about the and n b
A is what happened in the finals, not who is
wearing what on the red carpet. When they got most
Valuable Player in the third quarter of the Thursday night game,
I just don't care. Just another way to maybe seell
commercials during a TV spot and it's it's Because of
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this new format, Jonas that I think we look at
the Most Valuable Player Award in a different light than
we ever have before, and I think that that is
a detriment to James Harden for the simple fact of Jonas,
in previous years, we would look back at the m
v P when it would be announced at some point
during the NBA playoffs. That would happen, I don't know,
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first round or maybe in the conference semifinals. You would
have a press conference end with the player and that
player would receive the trophy. And in more times than not,
the in the NBA, if you're the most Valuable Player,
you have taken your team to the playoffs. So a
lot of times you would get the player receiving the
award in front of the home fans prior to a
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playoff game and everybody would be, you know, going and great.
You could have that pregame ceremony and that's how we
would find out who the mv n B a m
v P is and we probably then got lost in
the outcome of what those teams did with the playoffs.
But because of this NBA Award show, James Harden is
now a victim. And how how I feel he is
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going to be viewed as an m v P because
we saw what Lebron James did for the Cavaliers in
the playoffs the Pelicans, maybe to Anthony Davis's benefit, We're
eliminated in the Western Conference semifinals, so we kind of
forgot about what the playoff run or what happened against
the Warriors. Maybe we look at what Anthony Davis did
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during the season. The only thing we remember now about
the Houston Rockets season wasn't about the most wins, wasn't
about how great James Harden's season was. It was they
were up three two on the Golden State Warriors of
the Western Conference Finals, lost Chris Paul and then lost
the series. And now you're gonna give him an MVP award,
and you're saying, we'll wait a second. He couldn't get
his team to win a game six or or to
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win a game seven. That'sn't have been fair to James Harden.
And I'm not a fan of a separate like wait
till the wait, wait till the playoffs are done to
give the m v P. No, you have a regular
season m VP and you have your finals MVP. That's fine,
it's good. It's it's the timing of all of this
that's gonna make James Harden's MVP seems watered down because
of what they didn't do in the playoffs. The whole
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thing is just awkward. Which what's gonna happen with Dwyne Casey?
I mean, if Dwayne Casey wins Coach of the Year,
it's just awkward. Nobody, no, nobody takes it serious because
of what you saw happen and because of all that
has happened in the NBA since the last whistle and
the clock ran out in Game four the Finals, so
much has happened that the awards, it's like, it's just awkward.
(05:45):
It's an awkward watch, Like Dwayne Casey's gonna what except
the award and uh and be wearing a Pistons blazer
when he does it for a winning head coach for
the former team that he used to coach for that
he was recently fired from. But he's so winning, Like
the whole thing is just awkward. The same thing with
James Harden. Like, I think the NBA has got to
rethink how they're doing it, or at least tell some
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of these teams. Hey, if you're gonna fire somebody, or
if you're going to expose one of these guys, just
remember their up for an award. So can you wait
until after we're done? Just wait until Tuesday after the
awards so we can make all these moves. It just
it doesn't make any sense to me, and all anybody
remembers James Harden's season was great, awesome, good for him.
All anybody remembers to your point is him coming up
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short in the Western Conference finals and after the playoff
run Lebron James had. Nobody in the right mind would
tell you that James Harden is the most valuable player
of the league. But they want you to remember that
this is just for the regular season, and we're going
all the way back. If it's just for the regular season,
do it right after the regular season. It's it's uncomfortable,
it's awkward. It's two plus months since the NBA regular
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season ended, and you mentioned the doing Casey move, and
we talked about James Harden, heck the rookie of the year.
The last part of the regular season. All we did
was argue about well, I shouldn't say. All we did
was argue about. But somehow the NBA Rookie of the
Year award became an important award and we were arguing
over Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell and who should be
the NBA's Rookie of the Year. Guess what Jason Tatum
(07:14):
is up for that as well. And now after you
look back of what's happened over the last two months,
really who seemed who was probably most important at least
during the playoffs. That's sure's X team that Jason Tatum
was the most important of those three players to his team.
And so it is a it is a bad spot
for the NBA and and last year Jonas when Russell
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Westbrook ended up winning the m v P, we could
look back at he was a one man show, like
the late announcement didn't hurt him. This is now changing.
I I think this is it's a different feel. It
changes the perception. I think when James Harden and I
agree with you will win the m v P tonight,
it makes it a different look and it doesn't seem
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as important as what we would usually do with most
of label players in the three biggest awards at this
ceremony or what m v P Coach of the Year
in Rookie of the Year, would you say, all right,
everybody who's about to win was exposed as not being
the best at their job in the postseason, and that's
what just took place. The whole thing should be scrapped. Okay,
(08:20):
the Rookie of the Year, if it goes to Ben
Simmons or if it goes to Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum
was better than both of them in the postseason. Ben
Simmons scored a point in a game, not like a
couple of points, a single point in a playoff game.
Donovan Mitchell's team didn't go very far, and Dwayne Casey
was fired after the season because he got swept by Lebron.
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James and James Harden came up short again. Lebron took
his team to the finals and played almost every minute
of certain games during the postseason run. Everyone, all the
winners of all three categories were exposed in the postseason,
But we're supposed to believe that they're the best at
each of those categories. Just it dumb. Whole thing's dumb.
It doesn't make sense. I'd even argue that if Anthony
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Davis won tonight which is probably not going to he
would get. He gets a much bigger lift than James
Harden would because we forgot, you know, about what they did.
But also Jonas, we're forgetting. If Lebron James would with
the m v P tonight, it would give him five
and he would tie Michael Jordan's for five most valuable
players in his career. So every we talked about it
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all the time, MJ. Heck, we made fun of it
last week, m J versus Lebron and how that went,
like that would mean something to Lebron the other candidate,
and all of this. It really is going to burn
James Harden in the end because of what ended up happening.
And this is Major League Baseball saying, all right, we're
gonna announce our m v P and Cy Young Award
winners between the college football playoff games, you know, two
(09:46):
months after the fact. Why not why not wait until
late December and sort it all out, or hey, Thanksgiving Day,
we'll tell you who the m v P is right
after the Cowboys and Redskins Fox, why not? Why not
do something like that, because that's essentially what the NBA
is doing. It's been over the season regular season has
been over since mid April. We're now at the end
(10:07):
of June. That's almost two and a half months that
we've waited for these awards. That's what you get for baseball. Heck,
right after the selection show, find out who the m
v P is of the NFL. Say Happy fourth of July, everybody,
It's September eighteenth. Jonas unbelievable. Oh man, but yeah, it's
it's it's crazy to think, but James harden Is his
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m v P is gonna end up being not as
important as the other They have a stupid award show
at the end of the season two and a half
months after we forgot that the Rockets ended up having
the best record in the entire NBA. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
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(10:50):
NBA Radio and founder of Hoops Critic and NBA TV,
Brian Geltziler joines this year on The Doug gott Leap Show. Hey, Brian,
how you doing. I'm good, guys are doing We are
doing well. I'll just fill you in on what Jonas
and I spoke about at the top of the show,
and that's this NBA Awards show tonight where we're gonna
find out who's gonna win the m v P and
we both feel that it's going to be James Harden's
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award at the end of the night. Do you feel
that this award is going to be looked at differently
now knowing what we know about what happened to the
Rockets postseason, because it seemed Brian all those other years
when the awards were handed out pretty early in the playoffs,
we weren't looking at playoff performance. Do you think the
timing of this award show changes anything about James Harden's
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m v P. No, because the timing of the voting
hasn't changed, and this is the second year we've done
it this way. The voting is done at the end
of the regular season. It's not like the writers that
vote are the media guys a vote for the sure
get the benefit of seeing what happened in the playoffs.
Understand the only question of the announcement and listen, I
think last year Westbrook on the award, I think was
looked at the same way and I think this you listen,
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it's not a hard and performed poorly in the playoffs.
They made it the game seven of the conference finals
and wants to the the eventual champ and most our second
best player for those last two games, So listen. I
mean it was hard, unbelievable. In the playoffs, he wasn't
but he had a massive burden on a minute, and
I thought he handled things by and large pretty well,
and I think it was one of the better playoffs.
He said. He certainly had some really miserable ones in
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the past, So listen. I think I think it was
his word, a word to lose from a very early
stage of this season. He did nothing to lose it
matter if I could probably get more to earn it,
and I think you'll regardless of what we saw in
the playoffs, I don't think that perception changes even one
iota going into tonight. Brian Gell Tyler with us here
on Fox Sports Radio series x M NBA Radio, also
the founder of hoops Critic dot Com Guilt's Lebron James.
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There was a report that came out that he doesn't
want the circus quote unquote this time. This time around
feels a lot different because he wasn't dealing with Golden State.
There's a lot of other factors that are weighing in
on the family, all of that stuff. What do you think,
what do you think is paramount for Lebron James at
this point in his career? What is paramount on on
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his decision and where he wants to go? And Jonas's
hard to tell. I mean, I think on one hand,
I know he enjoys playing in the NBA finals at
eight consecutive years and nine overall, I you know, that
is something he does enjoy. But he's also always been
a family oriented guy and none of that has ever changed.
And now he is a situation with his son, Brownie,
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who's thirteen years old, is enrolled to the school in
l A to play on a team with Derek Fisher's nephew,
Kingman Martin's kid, Scotty Tipton's kid. There's, you know, it's
a very interesting situation there, and I think he looks
at l A as being a place where his family
would love to live. I think his family would be
like the actor as well, So in the end, I
think that's gonna be kind of what he's looking at now,
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you know, find somebody to go to l A with
him and get a running buddy there. That would be sure,
that would be ideal for him. But I think it's
gonna be a different. One of the signs that it's
going to be a very different criteria in terms of
what he decides on and what he's using to decide
is the fact that he doesn't want to talk in
Tony Show. For everybody, listen, Lebron James is he's a
very bright guy. He's probably a little smarter. He's not
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as smart as he thinks he is, but he's very smart.
But he kind of find the figures. He can look
at each of these teams, know what they need, identify
himself without them having to make the pictures to him.
In the end, Listen, it's gonna be one or two places.
It's gonna be either l A or Cleveland. I'm not
buying any of the Philly stuff. That's an ownership that's
never spent into the luxury tax that is a requirement
for Lebrons. It's Miami cheap Dad on him in fourteen
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in terms of of amasteing Mike Miller to say fourteen million.
So you have that situation in terms of money, and
with Houston, they're just they would have to cut the
roster too much and he would be you know, and
and Lebron really, I don't think he wants to live
in that city from all indications I hear. So in
the end, it's gonna be about his family, and the
question becomes is what the two big questions are A,
what are the Calves willing to do to upgrade that
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roster around him? And d is he willing to go
to l A without another star? Those are the two
larger questions to me regarding what's going to happen in
Lebron's free agency. We get answers to those two questions
will be a pretty good idea where he's gonna go.
Brian Gell Tyler joining us here at the Doug Gallup
Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks, I'm da
Empire in for Doug today. How long do you think
the Spurs are gonna take to to decide what to
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do with Kawhi Leonard. It's probably gonna go well into August,
but I don't think they're gonna break training cramp him
on the team because Kauai does not want to be
back in that locker room. And I think for the Spurs,
they'll tell him that they'll keep him all year and
try to stare them down a little bit to see
if they can get him to expand his list. But
in the end they understand that going to camp with
him is not gonna work for them. It's not definitely
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not gonna work for Kauai, but it's not gonna work
for them. And if he doesn't show, they got to
find him, and this whole thing starts to go on
and on and on, and then their leverage starts to
weaken as he doesn't show. So I don't know that
they want to risk that, but I do know this,
They're gonna wait to see what the Lakers do superstar
wise before they make up move on trading Kauai, Because
if the Lakers strike out here, if Lebron James, of
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Paul George, if DeMarcus Cousins of none of those three
guys decide to choose the Lakers and their cap space,
san Antonio will go back to the Lakers and try
to pend him over a barrel a little bit to
make a deal. I think I think that are looking
for a day they feel like with what Kauai is
laid on them in terms of the Lakers really being
the only destination he'd have an interest in resigning. And
they're looking at this situation as well, what do we
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do to have to lean on Kawai to get him
to expand the list and making him wait a little
bit is going to get him to expand the list.
So that's the other thing that happens here. So I
wouldn't expect anything to happen at any early stage with
the Spurs here. I think they take their time with
those whole Kauai things, but they will end up moving
in this offseason. There's so many reports that are Brian
Galtzeiler serious x M NBA Radio with us here on
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Fox Sports Radio. So many of these reports come out
every day, so you don't know which is accurate, which
is just somebody pulling the strings for somebody's camp. But
when the lead comes out and they say Kawhi Leonard
wants to go to the Lakers and he narrows down
his list, and you've pointed out until the list grows,
they kind of shot themselves in the foot, right Kauai's
people by only saying I'll go to one team at least.
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Kyrie Irving a year ago gave you know, a few
teams that he would consider. It's almost made things impossible.
And I saw an other report that said, well, they
don't want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team
or or to a Western Conference woman that that report
that I don't believe that report to be true. So
so okay, so are you buying? Just well, let me
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explain to you you a little bit. First of all, you
gotta Kauai. Kauai does not have an entourage or a
big group around. He has an agent that works for him.
He has his sister, his mom, and his uncle who
he bound to see decisions off with. You know, he's
very close with his uncle is an extremely close adviser
of his. But understand something, Jonas, this is in his
camp or his people. This is him talking to his
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family and him telling his family he's made a decision.
He wants to leave and go to the Lakers and Kauai.
He was it leaked by by his you know, his family.
Did they leak it at Kauai's behest? Absolutely do if
that information is out there right now, because a Kauai
Leonard wants it out there. And I don't think he
shot himself in the foot at all, because Kauai is
fine to be traded anywhere they want to trade them,
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or in the other thing, is this camp for at
this possibility is opt for surgery on that quad pendant
after all this time? Yet that does sit to you
out and end up going to the Lakers of us
And at the end of the year, he's content to
play anywhere they put him as long as he'll have
the option to go to the Lakers the following year.
So he doesn't think he shot himself on the foot
at all. He's not even worried about it for him
right now, and he knows where he wants to get to.
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He's determined to get there by whatever means possible. And
he looks Great Papovich and told him I want be
there anymore. I don't wanna be with you anymore. I
he does. They have turned him off sufficiently, so I
don't think he's done any more to himself at all.
I think, if anything, he's put himself in an extremely
advantageous position because he does want out. The Spurs aren't
in a good position. The Spurs certainly have a tough
spotty here, and the Spurs run the risk of either
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a getting nothing for a guy that optstaff surgery or
be having to find a guy that doesn't show up
or se trade him somewhere. You don't want to trade
him for cents on the dollar. So if he was,
he's done. Essentially he hasn't done anything to himself. Is
that the San Antonio Spurs, who in his eyes horrifically
disrespected him and having players quit publicly questioned the veracity
of a very gitimate injury, having the Spurs medical staff
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who misdiagnosed it in the first place, cleared him to
play when his own personal doctors still have not yet
cleared him to play. They totally disagree with his own
doctors on on the condition he has a condition in
his tendant. It's not just an injury, it's a chronic
condition that he's to be managed and treated and that's
to be brought back to a hundred percent before you
start to put that strain on it again. That is
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what his medical people are telling him. So the Spurs
here and their frustration and wanting him out there because
Parker and Ginobili were on their last run with the
Spurs last season tried to totally smoke him out by
embarrassing him, and it really was a very bad look
for them. It was a bad look for Parker, It
was a bad look for Greg Papa that standing in
front of in front of a press corps talking about
it his quokieback Kwai's family that it's his group, which
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almost was I know for a fact from Kauai was
taking a lot in the same way that Lebron James
took the Phil Jackson posse combat the Spurs. The Spurs
preached to Kauai Leonard his entire early years in the
league when he won a Finals MVP, we have a
certain way to do business, okay. Our way of doing
business is we first of all, accept blame and the
flect credit, and our laundry stays in house, and we
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don't watch our laundry in public. They violated both of
those rules with Kawhi Leonard. They put blame on him
for their season not going better by going public with this,
and they went public with something they've never gone public
with anybody before. Keep one thing in mind, guys, two
other guys in the Spurs era, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.
Both have one finals MVPs. Both have been injured at
certain points in time. Neither of them have ever had
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a teammate endorsed by management go question the veracity of
their injury publicly. The Spurs are getting exactly what they deserve.
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lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at
Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart
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m v P voting to also Westbrook. The guy that
finished third Kawhi Leonard, who's got his own situation with
the San Antonio Spurs happening. We mentioned Brian geltz Adler's name.
The serious XM radio host and the guy you can
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see on NBA TV joined us earlier to talk about
Kauai situation with his current and probably soon to be
former team, the San Antonio Spurs first reached the Kawhi
Leonard his entire early years in the league when he
won a Finals MVP. We have a certain way of
doing business, Okay. Our way of doing business is we
first of all, accept blame and the flect credit, and
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our laundry stays in house, and we don't watch our
laundry in public. They violated both of those rules of
Kawhi Leonard. They put blame on him for their season
not going better by going public with this, and they
went public with something they've never gone public with anybody before.
Keep one thing of mind. Guys too, Other guys in
the Spurs era, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker both have
won finals MVPs. Both have been injured at certain points
in time. Neither of them have ever had a teammate
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endorsed by management go question the veracity of their injury publicly.
The Spurs are getting exactly what they deserve here. Wow.
I then, since Brian's not with us, I completely disagree. Yeah,
that's I. I don't I don't look at it that way.
As I we talked about this last week. Tony Parker,
I think was speaking as a veteran who had zero
rodeos or maybe one rodeo left in the same thing
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with Monto Genoble, who's thought about retirement over the last
three years. Maybe the Spurs didn't go out and shoot
down what Monto Genoble and Tony Parker were saying, but
they didn't need a pushing from the organization to go
out and say what they had to say. They're veterans
who have been with the organization for ten fifteen plus
years with the likes of Tim Duncan, and this is
different than they've ever experienced. So I have no problem
with them speaking. You posed a question to me last
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week when we were doing the show, and you said,
whose fault is it? If you had to put blame
on somebody, either the Spurs or Kawhi Leonard, whose fault
would it be? And I didn't really think about it
because I try not to do the blame game, except
if there's a counter to somebody getting the blame, Like
I think the fact that the surrounding pieces are getting
the blame for Lebron James is struggle in the playoffs.
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I think that's a joke. He's the reason the surrounding
pieces are there, so he deserves equal blame. But I
try not to make a blame on on a certain
subject in sports because sometimes people just don't want to
play on a team, or they want away from a
team and whatever. That's just life. But the more I
thought about it, if you were to ask me initially
over again, my gut react, my initial reaction would be, yeah,
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you know, I'm gonna side with Kawhi Leonard on this.
Based on his reputation. He's never been a pain in
the ass, He's always been seemingly a good teammate. He
doesn't like drama, doesn't cause trouble. I would side with
Kawhi Leonard based on reputation. And the more I thought
about it, it's like, hold on a second. The Spurs
have been the best run organization in the NBA for
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about two decades now, all of a sudden, they don't
know how to do things anymore. Like all of a sudden,
it's them that's not able to figure out how to
handle a superstar. It's like when the when the Malcolm
Butler bill Bill Belichick fiasco happened at the Super Bowl,
everybody blaming Belichick. I said, wait, hold on, say it
all of a sudden, the greatest coach in the history
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of the league just forgot how to manage personnel right
before the Super Bowl. It seems a little far fetched.
And if the more I look at it, the more
I think, and you're hearing other players and former Spurs
come out and defend their organization, which makes sense in
its own But the more I think about it, we're
only saying that Kawai Leonard is in the right here
based on his reputation. We're not factoring in the Spurs
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have had a longer reputation of success in the NBA,
and it's a little puzzling to me why everybody is
signing with Kauai here. It's bizarre. I I don't get
it either. And I think that even the last year
with the LaMarcus Aldrid situation, which I think is a
very very important piece to what is happening with Kawai Leonard,
is that LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't happy, rumored to want out,
so Greg Popovitch changed what they were doing in San
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Antonio to make it work for LaMarcus Aldridge. And LaMarcus
Aldridge is having his best or had his best season
as a Spur, so the Spurs actually showed flexibility and
the really need to look in the mirror and say,
you know what, maybe we've we've had this great run.
Maybe I've got to do a little something different here.
And that's what I think also supports their case with
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Kawhi Leonard is heck, they've they've they've had him in
camp from the get go when they when they ended
up making the trade with the Pacers to to bring
in Kauai Leonard on on Draft night and have that
piece to be a part of the organization. He's been
through rodeos with them, so he knows how the organization works.
And I think that they felt that they had a
better opportunity to even talk it through with him than
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they did with La Marcus Aldrid. So I don't blame
the San Antonio Spurs for really any of this. It's
it's it seems to be Kauai and it seems to
be the parties that are around him. Be sure to
catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
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and the I Heart Radio app. And now, all right,
(25:52):
because Doug's not here, we still will take something interesting
that was said from other Fox Sports Radio or Fox
Sports one and play it back to you and earlier
today what the reason why Doug's not here is because
he was in on the Herd for Colin Cowherd on
Fox Sports Radio and had this to say about Carmelo
Anthony opting in on his contract with the Oklahoma City
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thunder All Carmelo Anthony had to do instead of haters
gonna hate, instead of offering up that anyone who doesn't
like him or agree with him opting in, or anyone
who who thinks that he can't win, instead of saying, hey,
you should um kiss another region of my body? Right,
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instead of that, why not simply say I'm staying Hey,
Paul George, you staying all in on Oklahoma City. Let's
go anything it takes to win a championship. That from
Doug Gottlieb earlier today on the criticis is him that
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Carmelo Anthony was taking And I guess his retorts on
social media and on Twitter about him opting to the
in the final year of the contract that's going to
pay him twenty seven million dollars. At least he was honest, man.
I much rather have that than some guys say. Listen,
I'm all about winning and this is this is my
most the most important thing to me is is bringing
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a championship to the city. Cool? Will you play for
six hunder grand? Absolutely not, you're kidding me and definitely not.
At least he's honest about it. I'm doing it for
the money. Well sorry, yeah. I don't know if anybody
has been critical of him not taking the money. I
think what they are is just being critical of his game.
And it's almost two different conversations, like Oklahoma City knows
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what they've got with Carmelo Anthony and Carmelo Anthony knows
what he's got in his contract. So well, Melo opts
in all of us as professionals, would say, Okay, I
can get twenty seven million dollars next year, or I
could look for money somewhere else and not be as
much as you said six hud thousand dollars. Or somebody
wants to pay him three million dollars next year. Yeah, no, Dub,
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you're going to take it. I don't think anybody here
is saying, oh, that's a bad you know, why why
would you do that? No one is saying it's a
bad business move. They just feel that he's stealing money.
And that's you know, that's the Nixt problem, that's the
Thunders problem. That's their their own situation to deal. But
why do you think let me ask you this, why
do you think people dislike Carmelo Anthony? Because I've always
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been I've always been curious about that. What has he
really done wrong? I mean, as a guy, everybody picks
on him and they take shots at him all the time.
I understand his marriage and all whatever you want to
say about that, that's his personal life, but just him himself,
why do people dislike him? I think it's because, and
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I'm just I'm just guessing, is that he is such
a one dimensional player that and I'm I'm trying to
guess you like, you know, he doesn't play defense, He's
not going to get other guys involved. It seems to
always be about him and his scoring numbers and his shots,
and that's what it seems to always be. I feel
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about why he gets that reputation because it almost feels
like a like nobody really has a good reason because
to say and I'm not saying that you are, but
if people were to say well, he's a selfish ballplayer.
If you were to make a list of all the
selfish players in NBA history, you'd have a long list
and you still be working on it a year later.
There's a lot of selfish players in the history of
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the league. I think he's one of those people that
fans and people in media like to pick on and dislike,
but they can't really give you a legitimate reason why
he's like Jay Cutler, like, why do you really dislike him? Well, because, um,
you don't really have a good reason. There's no there's
no real reason there. I think it's because of his
talent that he did have, but he was so set
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in his ways that he wouldn't adjust to anything, like
he had to get his own way, and that was
going to be the way, whether it meant winning or not.
With championships, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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Radio app. John MORROSSI joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, John,
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how's it going. I'm doing great, gentlemen. Happy summer to
both of you and all of our listeners out there.
And yes, this season has absolutely flowing by, but does
some great storylines brewing all on the bet. I'm going
to start off with this, who's the best team in
the National League. That is a great question because I
(30:39):
don't have an answer, well my answer right now, I
would tell you this, it's the Los Angeles Dodgers. And
I've given this some thought. You look, on the morning
of May seventeen, the Dodgers were ten games under five
hundred and eight and a half games out of first
place in the NASH League West. Since that day May
seventeenth until now, they've got the best record in the
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major leagues and now they're finally healthy. So I would
go with that answer and say that you have to
include what happened last year. This is not just a
quick snapshot of what the standing looked like right now.
You look at the larger sample size of performance, and
with so many of the same players that came within
one game and and really one rally of of winning
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the World Series last year, I would say the answer
to that question is Los Angeles Dodgers. H John Palmrossi
with us here on Fox Sports Radio. John, the slump
that Bryce Harper is in, is it just your standard typical.
This is a normal thing. It's a slump. Every player
goes through this. Or is there a feeling from people
you talk to there's something more to the story. Well,
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here's here's the interesting part about this, Jones. I. I
spoke with some agents last week, so not and Scott
Boris was not one of them. This was a an
independent panel of that I had canvassed to ask what
they thought about Bryce's struggles. Now he's been hitting below
to twenty here for some time now, and I said, listen,
is this going to cost him a lot of money? What? What?
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What does his contract actually look like when all of
a sudden done based on how he has played? And
the answer to that question was they still thinking. And
three different agents who are not his agents told me
they still think he gets three hundred million dollars based
on his age and based on the projection, and based
on the belief that the modeling that so much of
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these decisions is based on. Now, the modeling will tell
the owners and the gms that you should not look
at a bad couple of months and say that that's
going to be indicative of the way he plays for
the next ten years, which is really fascinating because I
think for all of us, you look at certain players
Mike Mustakas for example, this fast offseason, the market simply
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has not been there for players that we all look
at and say, well, they put up the numbers, why
isn't it working out for them. Well, in the case
of Bryce, certainly, he's put up historically very good numbers
and he's still as um one of the highest home
run totals in the major leagues this season. UM, but
the average is down in the two teams or the
two twenties, which is just hard to fathom for a
player of that of that caliber. Do I think he's
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pressing a little bit? Yes, I think it was well
documented last night on Sunday Night Baseball and and last
week on the end of the network. Just he's he
is drifting a bit more than he usually does. Usually
does that a fair amount is part of his normal swing,
but it's happening now to a large extent, and he's
really vulnerable away and I think that until something changes
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with him, the numbers and the strikeouts book continue to
be there. That being said, he had a big night
last night for the Nationals on National TV, so maybe
that gets him going again, but the summer year is teams,
based on their analytical approach, will look at his age
and the numbers he's put up already and say they
believe he is going to bounce back. John Rossi joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlip Show.
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He's Jonas Knox. I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug today.
It's on him, isn't it? The Bryce Harper, I mean,
the Nationalists, I mean, I love the move to get
Kelvin Herrera when I don't even know if they needed
bullpen help. We know a good Max Scherzer is and
what they've got at the top of the rotation. Is
it on him if they don't make the postseason? Well,
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that's really it's a tough question, and it's a good question.
I think that he has to be one of their
best players. He has to be. And the fascinating thing
is you look at this the way he's played this season,
um and and the totality of it, even by some
of the advanced metrics, has wins the buf replacement of
even factor in the defense. He has not been all
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that exceptional in that regard either, So um, if they
missed the playoffs, is that Bryce Harper's fault, it would
be I think a certain percentage would be his responsibility.
I think part of it, too is the injuries, Steven
Strasburg being out, Zimmerman being out, That they've dealt with
injuries really all season long. Kellison has missed time, Kedrick
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has missed time, Kincler just got back today, Joe Ross
is out. So I think there will be many factors
if the Nationals missed the playoffs, but certainly if Harper
finishes the year batting and the two teams and the
Nationals do not make the playoffs, I think it would
be relatively easy and probably relatively correct to say that
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Harper is a big reason why. John Palmerosi, MLB Network,
Fox Sports One, Fox Sports Radio, MLB Insider with us
here on FS are if somebody maybe hasn't been paying
attention to baseball and they've been watching the NBA or
doing other things, and they were to just start tuning
in over the past couple of weeks and you had
to catch them up on the most fascinating story going
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in Major League Baseball right now, what's your answer? Well,
first of all, shame on you if that's the case
shame it also. And by the way, we had too
great we had the NBA playoffs were fantastic, last fantastic.
I I kid, of course, but I think, to me,
it's it's Mike Trout being better than ever and continuing
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to defy um any logical um framework for statistics and
modern days. He he just simply does not make outs.
And I think for him, I root for this because
I love the game. I root for him to become
a a larger crossover star in in baseball, and I
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think that it's important. I I like to say this
and make this point. It's not the fact that he's
not as ubiquitous and Lebron James um is not his fault.
It's not baseball's fault. There's a lot of factors there.
But I think that you start in terms of becoming
a crossover sports icon in our country by winning championships.
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Derek Jeter would not have been Derek Jeter had he
not been a Yankee and won all those World Series
so early in his career. Mike Trout has played three
playoff games in his career and he has lost them all.
At some point time that has to change and he
can win the All Star Game MVP as he's done before. Uh,
he needs to have postseason success. So I think this year,
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for me, I'm really curious to see does he finally
get his team to the playoffs again for one of
the second time and once he gets there, does he
start to build his legend in a way that casual
sports fans will become fans of Mike Trout. I think
that's a key storyline for baseball. Also, Um, we were
there at Fenway over the weekend, uh, Mariners and Red
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Sox and the Mariners. Uh that they won the game
that we had on Fox on Saturday, but they have
scuffled a bit lately. I still like the chances for
that team to make the playoffs for the first time
since two thousand one, and that's the longest playoff rout
all the four major sports in our country. The Buffalo Bills,
of course, that they abdicated that role to the Mariners
after the last football season, So I think to me,
(37:44):
having the Mariners relevant again reminds me of my youth
and watching highlights of Griffey and a Rod and what
a fun team that was. When Seattle is engaged in
a baseball city, the game is better for it. And And
I think that right now we're seeing that in the
great city of Seattle, Washington, JP. How many years in
a row have you picked the Mariners to make the
playof So here's the funny story that Jone said. And
I'm glad you mentioned it because you and I have
worked there for a long time. You and I have
(38:06):
worked there for a long time, so you're aware of this.
I picked them every year. And in fact, there was
one year on MLB Network that that we were doing
a season preview show and Greg Amsinger said, John, you
gotta have a pick that's gonna surprise me. And and
because no one was picking the marriage, and I said,
the Mariners are gonna win the American Lake West and
Greg said, I refused to accept your answer. You must
(38:27):
pick another one because you picked them every year. So
it's a long running joke. Well, then this year I said,
on opening Day, congratulations to the Mariner fans. I said
this on Twitter, by the way, you can you can
look it up as they say that the congratulations of
the Mariner fans because this time, for the first time
in five years, I am not gonna pick you. So
I wish to congratulate you on winning the World Series,
and here they are now on their way to the playoffs.
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I've got I've got family in the great city of Seattle,
so I've got, you know, a lot of relationships there,
and I love the city so that there may be
a small part of me that that would love to
see them make the the playoffs. And I've kind of
said that to my my friends there and family there,
so um, we'll see if it works out. But maybe
maybe a bit of a reverse psychology to bring some
joy that my family lives in a great city. I'll
tell you what it's done. The America League playoff teams
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are already set. It's over with. You don't even need
the second half of the season. It's going to be
what it would be right now, John Rossie, I know
you gotta run. Thanks so much for the time. We
appreciate it, and we'll be watching on NMLB network and
seeing you on Fox and hearing them here. Appreciate it. John,
My pleasure. Guys. Always love talking to you guys, and
we'll we'll cut up again soon, Okay, all right,
Host
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