November 16, 2018 • 34 mins
Doug tells you where Packers head coach Mike McCarthy went wrong in their loss to the Seahawks. He tells you why Draymond Green is making a mistake in his beef with Kevin Durant. Bears DB Prince Amukamara joins the show to tell Doug what it’s like to match up against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense.
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the Three and Out podcast, Rob Riggle, will be our guest. Dude,
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what would we just load up with? Get back end?
I just asked questions. Rob Riggle is gonna be our guest.
Daniel Jeremiah's our guest, Joel Class our guest. And we
got my picks, which have been fantastic in college football.
NFL picks are fine, College foall picks have been amazing,
simply amazing. Uh, no blood last night right because of
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a three point spread? Is that correct? I had? I
do believe I had the packers straight up. To be
honest with you, I had the packers straight up, and
so I lost. Um, somebody else had the packers. I
think it was rommost may have had the packers. Oh
it's music. You had the packers, but you had the packers.
But there was no blood because you did not say
packers straight up. You just said packers to cover. So
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I got your back their music. Everybody else, even you'd
only lose the vig. I lost it all because I
put packers straight up. But it's not out of frustration
that I go on this rant. It's it's not and
it's with full admittance that Tie Montgomery simply takes a
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knee in the end zone. The Packers are in a
different place. If you know, you look at a couple
of fun two straight weeks of untimely fumbles, and they
had Mason Crosby issues in one of their games, and
they got a tie game against the Minister. Like you
go all these things together, and right now the Packers
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are looking like a payoff playoff pretender, not a playoff contender,
and one that might get the head coach fired. And
it's not that the Packers decided to not go for
it on fourth and two last night. It honestly is not.
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And you're like, no, that that's exactly what I don't know.
It's honestly that has not that that is not really
the reason that head coaching matters, But it does matter
because of the answer that Mike McCarthy gave to us. See,
Mike McCarthy said that the numbers told him and they
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went by the numbers. That's by the numbers. Well that's
what the math says. And yet all the numbers guys
are like, yeah, we didn't come up with that one
at all, Right, Like, no, no, that's not really actually
even close to being accurate. And if you wanted to
say that Seattle had already uh had already punted twice
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in the second half, they had scored in their previous
drive at seven place seventy five yard drive to take
the lead. And if you wanted to say that the
Green Bay Packers, it only managed eight yards, and that
not getting a first down at your own thirty three
yard line was sure sure, sure death right, because now
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a sudden Seattle is already in field goal range, and
you know it's not even best or worst case scenario.
A reasonable scenario is they hold the ball for a
couple of minutes and then they kick a field goal
and you're down six. You gotta score a touchdown. That's
not a terrible scenario. But if you want to sit
there and say, hey, look, we hadn't even moved it yet.
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We had only scored a field goal in the second half.
We didn't feel great about how our offense was playing,
and we felt pretty good about our defensive ability to
get one stop against the Seahawks. It is just a
gut field thing. This is just me challenging my defense
to get a stop to get the ball back to
Aaron Rodgers. If you wanted to go with that, I
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could go with that. If you wanted to say that
the numbers were based upon being at your own thirty
three yard line field position wise, didn't seem like a
wise move. But when you say the numbers, you're talking
about football analytics. Oh to the numbers, Like, no one's
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gonna check the numbers. Yeah, we're gonna check your work.
Reminds me of like math class and you just like,
all of a sudden, the kid goes from having ds
and fs to getting an A like, yeah, we're gonna
do more than just run the scantron. We're gonna, all right,
we're gonna we're gonna see how you came upon the
magic pencil. That that's the thing that sets off alarms
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with the testing, with the testing folks, for the s
A T. I don't know if you guys remember this,
Like Derrick Rose famously took his s A T in
Detroit even though he's from Chicago. Couldn't pass the s
A You know, you couldn't take the SA T in
your hometown. Lamar Odom didn't pass the s A T
in New York. Then all of a sudden, he flies
out to Lynnwood High School in l a And magically
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passes the s A T. All right, yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna check that one. We're gonna have you take
the test. Again, we're gonna kind of figure this thing out.
It's Mike McCarthy telling us the numbers told me. That's
almost like saying, uh, just handing somebody a resume and
pretending that they're gonna skip skim over it. And you're
saying you went to Harvard and we're not gonna make
a call. All We're gonna make one call. Yeah, nobody
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named Gottli went to Harvard. Well are somebody would name
Gottleib went to Harvard, but not that Doug Gotley went
to Harvard. It's not one little thing, it's the whole thing.
It just is. And is it unfair? Probably? I mean
he told he told Time Montgomery. They told Time Montgomery,
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under no uncertain circumstances, do you want to bring the
ball out of the end zone. He did, He fumbled,
And they had pulled Time Montgomery from the previous series
after missing a block that ended up in a sack.
They like Aaron Jones, and they've given Aaron Jones the
football more here late in the season. But it's not
like it's Mike Mike McCarthy's fault that Aaron Jones fumbled
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in their last game. But he did It's not like
it's Mike McCarthy's fault that a reliable field goal kicker
who's been able to kick in terrible weather, trrential rains
and wins as well. Mason Crosby suddenly has a bad day.
But he did, and it's not his fault that the
Devents can't get one stop or that the offense could
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only get eight yards. It was on an old side
of the football for the three thirty three yard line.
But there just doesn't seem to be a great deal
of belief. There just doesn't seem to be a cohesive
coach said it, let's do it. It doesn't feel like
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it's a marriage that's meant to last. And that's okay.
Not every marriage is meant to last, not even marriage.
Maybe the best analogy really for this thing is Mike
McCarthy came home late last night and he was like, yeah,
you know, I was I was at I was at
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Wild Wings. They were, huh, that's funny because I was
at Wild Wings and you weren't there, Like like nobody's
gonna check. He leaves credit card receipts all around the
place and it does not say wild Wings. Like these
are things that are not hard to check up on
saying the numbers told you to punt when it's third
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and two, fourth and two, and you have arguably the
best quarterback in the sport, and for my money, the
most talented quarterback who's ever played the sport, who can
not only get the first down with his arm, can
get it with his uh snap, cant with a hard count,
and can get it with his legs as well. In
three ways in which you can pick up two yards
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with mostly only Aaron Rodgers, maybe you get a little
help from Davante Adams, and yet he chose to punt.
And I I've sat here into offended, conservative natured coaches
in the past. I have that sometimes you have the feeling.
But what I can't defend is this numbers. What numbers? Mike,
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what numbers? Because all the numbers guys like, yeah, that's
not actually the way it works. And it feels like
a guy who the NFL and the use of analytics
and the idea of how to smartly use different times
in the game, different yard, different down and distances to
their advantage, and he hasn't been able to be one
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step ahead of it. Instead, he's one step behind and
he's claiming numbers support something that they absolutely don't support.
I mean, I thought we were gonna have Aaron Rodgers
score a touchdown and then have Russell Wilson running around
trying to make a play, trying to get a last
second touchdown, much like we had last weekend at home
against the Chargers, and what we'd likely get in most
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this weekends at home for the Seahawks. That's like how
every Seahawk game ends. Instead, Chris Carson gets the first down,
and that was that. Don't tell me the numbers support
something that it's not hard for us to do the
math and they don't support. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon
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eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in. A guy who
plays defensive back for the Chicago Bears. First place Chicago
Bears Prince of Mucamara joins us here on The Doug
got Leap Show on Fox Sport Trade. If you have
been following this story outside of Chicago Colde Park, He's
had a great year last year kicking for the Dolphins.
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He was a big signing for them, and he did
miss a kick that could have beaten the Dolphins. Other
than that was having a good year, had a terrible
day on Sunday. And then, Prince, have you seen I'm
sure you know of this. He was kicking at Soldier
Field at night one night and they had local helicopters
circle around. You ever seen any thing like this before? No? No,
I have not, No, I have not, but it, I
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mean it makes sense, Um, sold just feel it is
a is a UM. I mean it's a difficult field
to uh to kick in and um, I mean it's
windy and um and yeah, so just to just to
train there and get those reps, I'm sure it's in
poring for him. Yeah, yeah, No, it's it's a it's
a completely different. There have been guys before they that
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have complained about the footing. What's it like for you
to play there in your home games? I love it?
I mean I think it's uh, I think it's an
advantage to us if if guys are complaining, but um,
I don't have no problem with it, and um, it's
definitely home field advantage. Prince Mugamara joined us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. There's there's so
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much talk about Khalil and the guys up front. What's
your sense of And you know, he missed a couple
of games. You guys performed well without him. When he's back.
We saw what he did to Detroit and he's done
to other people. What's this defense like to be a
part of. Man, it's just I mean, I don't know
where to start it. I mean, it's definitely an exciting time.
I mean, we finished top ten last year in defense,
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and we knew, um, we wanted to take that extra,
that extra step this year. And then I mean, but
then with the addition of Krel, that that extra step
with a little bit more um promising and UM. And yeah,
Khalil came back last week. I think he I think
he had a two piece. I think he had two sacks,
and um, he just picking up from where he left off.
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And I keep telling everybody he really just makes everybody
that much that much better just because he requires so
much attention, um on the on the line, and he's
getting triple team, double team, so it opens up, uh
for everybody else. On the other hand, is there ever
a sense like, look that's this is a D team
that we had a successful defense last year, granted different
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coaching staff with John Fox and and and and perform
well without him. How do you guys, how do you
guys not have any jealousy over the attention not just
the money, but the attention that uh. Like I said,
I think one thing is is that like we genuinely
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like love each other as teammates, Like we hang out
during the week, um and and I think that helps
us UM even become closer together on on Sundays or
whenever we play. But I think another thing is is
that everybody is eating everybody is UM is making plays
on the ball like anybody in our secondary I think
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has has has a pick, uh. And then and then
I think almost everybody on the line has a sex.
So everybody's play is given is getting elevated. So um
and and the playmaking ability is just has just been contagious.
So UM we know that UM it's a it's a
team effort, and we're just a group of guys who
doesn't care who gets the credits. Like like you said
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in the beginning, like we're the first team where the
we're the first place UM in the division. And I
think that's what we really care about. We just want
to win, all right. When you see the Packers lose
last night? What what's the emotions that go through your body?
I mean, I mean, uh, god, I know what to say.
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I mean Green Day. Just tell me, just tell me
how you feel, Like like, are you're sitting there you
want them to lose so that they quit? Or do
you want them to win so it's more competitive? Like
how honestly do you feel when you watch a team
that you're still gonna have to play again on at
Soldier Field? The team you guys are up seventeen nothing
against the first week of the season, when you see
him lose? What's what's how does it make you feel?
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I mean anytime I mean anytime any of our opponents
can get can get beat in in the division. I
mean it's always it's always great and um but um,
I mean we we know what happened the first week,
and I mean we're excited to play them when when
when that day come? But um yeah, watching a game
against Seattle, Um yeah, I was. I was excited for Seattle,
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uh to win. Of course, this is your first chance
to see the Vikings this year, first chance to see
Kirk Cousins this year. I know you've seen him in
the past. You get two games against the Vikings. Uh,
Chris Mukamarrow joining us in the Dougoultice. Of course you
had to pick last week. Um. And as good as
Cousins is, he'll throw one or two a game. You
were like, wait, what what happened there? When when you
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when you watch Cousins play, when you watch this offense,
what do you see? Man? I see an offense that's
that's dynamic, and I mean they love to get they
love to get the ball to their playmakers. And we
know that Adam Dealing and Stefan Dix are there guys
and they're gonna try to put them in different spots
to uh to get them the ball. And kirk Kirk
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is very very accurate and um he's the leader of
that team and ums, he's going to try to try
to get them going. So we know, especially at the
defensive backfield, we're going to have our our work cut
out for us trying to guard those guys. What about
what what's the secret to theeling? Like? How does how's
this guy going from being undrafted? I mean he's like
an NFL walk on to being one of the top
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wide receivers in the game, which when you watch him,
what's the secret to him? Man, Um, He's just he's
just consistent. And greatness is when you do UM, when
you're consistent, like as much as much as you can be.
And he's just been consistent catching the ball, making plays,
running great routes and UM. And he's not and he's
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not backing down. And a lot of great a lot
of great dbs has has been guarding him and he's
and he's been UM, he's been excelling. He's been making plays.
So so yeah, I don't think he could be denied
that he's not playing like one of the best wide
receivers in the game, because he clearly is. I don't
know how many people have followed the Bears um the
first team to take advantage of the NFL Social Injustice
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Social Justice Initiative and donate two plus forty players on
the roster. Remember there's only fifty three active, but forty
forty players have joined in the donate two six hundred
dollars collectively. Who who who is it? You? Who's been
the guy who's spearheaded this thing? Because you know it
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works when everybody says I'll date eight money, I'll done
ain't money, but you need somebody to really get Guys like, no, dude,
you gotta put the money in now, we gotta get
this thing done. Who's been the guy? Yeah, so I
would say a couple of guys just said the first
thing that comes to my head is is sam Acho
and um so sam Acho Minster bisky a team. Those
are the guys who are like, hey, like, let's like
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like like, let's let's be proactive, like let's let's actually
do something and stuff like that, because it all started
when the you know, like we all decided what we're
gonna do for the for the anthem, and and guys said,
all right, let's not let's just not show that we're
united by linking arms, like, let's let's actually um be proactive.
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And then guys are saying, hey, there's this social justice
fun and let's let's be the first team to do
it in um guys, just we just group group together
and we've got it done. It's pretty amazing. Of course,
the Bear is gonna match the tollal donation of three
thou dollars long with additional matching grants from Bears Care
in the NFL Foundation. Great stuff you're doing, hey listen.
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Continued success and health to you and everyone around you.
We really pushed appreciate you joining us. Good luck in
the vikings me be sure to catch live editions so
the Doug dot Leaps show week days in noon eastern
three pm Pacific. All right, last night, Uh, the Warriors
played the Rockets. It did not go well. Did not
go well for the Warriors. They got blown out by
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the Rockets. K D looked um, he looked okay, he
had twenty, he didn't make a shot. I mean part
of what people are missing. And I've heard I've heard
many of my media brethren say, like, we'll see that
just shows Steph Curry is more important to this team.
He's better than Kevin Durant. No, he's not. Steph Curry
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has moments where he's better, any moments where he's worse.
He's not as consistently as spectacular, and he's not. It
doesn't affect the game nearly as much at both ends
of the floors. Kevin Durant is and I think Steph
Curry is amazing. He's been a two time m v P,
including UM a unanimous m v p But what we
we have to realize is the Warriors. Warriors, by the way,
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are without two starters. Like what like DeMarcus Cousins is
going to start for them and Steph Curry is gonna
come back. They got two fifths of their starters. And
part of what's happened since their first championship when they
had a very deep and solid bench and kind of
perfect pieces they got together, is they had to dismantle
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that bench one because of age and uh some evolution
to because some guys got paid salary wise in three
in order to go get Kevin Durant. This is so
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you know, I I'm sorry. I look and I I
say to myself, dude, this is really really really simple,
really simple that that as much as Durant and his
inability to be decisive as to what he's doing or
just leave open the possibility of leaving Golden State has
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allowed all of us to have the conversation, let's not
get it twisted. Draymond Green is the problem. Like Draymond
somehow has become this heroic character because he's called out
Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant's manhood and Kevin Durants like, Hey,
don't ask me this question anymore. I don't blame him
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personal relationship, I answered as much as I'm gonna answer,
and oh yeah, by the way, uh, this was about
Draymond and Draymond answered for the last time. He even said,
you didn't take questions I got. People today are stephen A.
Smith coming after Kevin Durant for saying, hey, don't ask
me about that anymore. Draymond Green said, don't ask me
about this. I'm not taking any questions. Here's gonna say.
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That's all'm gonna say about it. End of story. That
was yesterday. And then after the game they want to
ask him to ask Kevin kad about it, Like we
just said, we're not talking about anymore. And then he said, hey,
can you talk about it? But this is what Yahoo
insider Chris Haines had said the response, this is what happened.
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This is what caused Draymond gets suspended. Get the f
out of here, watch us figure this blank out. Green
reportedly called Durant the B word the entire time. Then
Green blurted out to Durant something along the lines up,
we don't need you, we won without you. Leave. Draymond
Green is Denzel Washington and you're like, Okay, that's I'm
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you have my attention, Gottlieb. Which version of Denzel Washington
is he? Is he falling Denzel Washington? Did you like them?
I love the movie following I feel like that rama.
That's an underrated movie. Freaky, scary but really really good. Right,
there's the version of him. Glory is great and Glory
no no. Draymond is Denzel in Training Day. Remember Alonso,
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the badass cop was really on the take and then
leaves Ethan hawk uh in the hood where he was
nearly murdered. Remember that. You remember at the end of
the movie where where Alonso that's Denzel Washington's character thinks
that all these guys in the hood have his back,
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all of them take care of my business. You're nothing
without me. I run this place, I run this hood,
and and they tell Ethan Hawk's character go ahead and
get lost. We got this. Do you remember that? That's
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Springing Daniels Amya from the NFL Network and also covers
the l A Chargers on radio dj UM. Let's let's
start with Aaron Rodgers. How much of what went wrong
last night is his fault? How much of it is
Mike McCarthy's fault. Well, I would probably put more of
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it on McCarthy, just just for the the way the
offense is geared and the way the offense is set up.
But I don't think that Rogers is blameless as some
would believe. He ran himself into several sacks in that game,
just here to the ball man. Uh. That's something that
frustrates me a little bit when I watched him and
he missed some guys too. There are some vision things,
some things that he missed, so he wasn't playing at
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its highest level. But if you're gonna place more of
the blame to me, if you're gonna put a percentage
on it, I would put it, uh, probably on coaching
and on Rogers. But you know what, if you don't
agree with that, we can fight, you know, yeah, you can.
We can totally fight, but only in person, not in student.
Well we'll talk trash, you know, bhind microphones and be
be a lot tougher that way. I do think one
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of the missed stories because we're so ingrained to talk
about Rogers and McCarthy. I kind of think Pete Carroll
has done an amazing job this year. Right, Like they
were in those Rams games, right, there's been there haven't been.
They were in the charge, I know the charger, you
called it, and they left seven points on the field
with their kicking game. But they did have Russell Wilson
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with the ball, a chance to tie it up and
ball that was deflected late. Like, considering all of the departures,
the dysfunction within the offensive line last year, were shot
Penny taking half a season to come around. Um, all
the massive injuries that they've they've suffered, you know, Doug
Baldwin was hurting the preseason. Like they've done a really
nice job in Seattle. And they're not terrible. No, they're
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not terrible at all. It's interesting the way they're doing it. Um,
you know what, they're just saying, we're gonna run, run, run,
run run. They know their offensive line cannot pass protect.
So instead of beating your head against the wall, um
and wishing and hoping for something that can't happen, they're
just running it and all their their financial game is
what Russell Wilson does best. So I'm not having to
throw it a ton, but he's being efficient, hitting some
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big plays down the field off that play action. Defensively,
you know, they primarily they rushed four guys. They play coverage,
They try and keep the ball in front of you,
and you saw that pass rush get home. But trying
to limit the big plays down the field and then
and then run the football. It's kind of an old
school approach. I don't you know. Look, if they will
somehow get into the playoffs, I don't think that they
would be as dangerous as they were back in the day.
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But what they're getting out of what they have is
I think it's one of Pete Carroll's best coaching jobs.
I don't think there's any question about it. I agree
with you, Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's let's bounce around the NFL a little bit. Does
feel does feel like the Cowboys have a shot, right
Falkins are all beat up, they got no defense. Then
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the Skins come in next week and the Skins are
all banged up defensively. I'm not not a big buyer
into them. Like it feels like the Cowboys this is
their uh. The golf expression is moving day on on Saturdays.
Feels like Sunday's moving day, that they're going home or
they got a shot at this. Agree or disagree, No,
I agree with you. I think both Dallas and Philadelphia
still have a shot. And when you look at the schedules,
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I mean, I know, uh, you know, Philadelphia has got
a tough one this week. I think they'll lose to
the Saints. I think they'll loose to the Rams. But
the magic number is nine. Somehow get to nine wins,
which would mean Philadelphi would have to run the table
and their other games. Dallas their schedules a little bit
more favorable, uh, and Washington schedules brutal. I mean, I
could definitely see Washington lose their next three games, starting
with the Texans this week, just because the injuries they
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have along the offensive line. So I think it's just
gonna be whoever can get to that nine win mark
in the Cowboys just they if they use the formula
they use last week. Again it was their defense just
flying around generator turnover too uh and then run the
ball short in the game. They've they've got a chance,
no question. Um, let's get to the Philadelphia Eagles. How
can they be fixed? Well, you know, it's it's interesting there.
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They'll uh timmy journey and coming back eventually, I think
will help them a little bit at the line of scrimmage. Um.
But you know, they've had so many injuries on the
offensive line and the secondary which was on the outside. Uh,
you know, it wasn't playing well before injury, and now
you add injury on top of that and you look
at who they have to play. I mean, like I said,
I kind of pencil on the two losses with the
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Saints and the Rams. Uh, that means they have to
be clean that it means they have to run the
table on the remainder of their games to get to
that nine wind mark. So that's a that's a tough,
tough hurdle for them. And they've you know, they've got
they've got some issues they need to address in the
off season. They've got some ads there at left tackle
with with Peters, I think that might be it for him. Um,
and they need to get better at corner. They're just
not good enough out there. There's too much space Okay,
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let's get to the Saints. Are they in fact the
best team in football? I think so? You know, I
think so. I think when you look at what they did,
you know what they've done, go on total toe with
some good teams. Um, you know, like I do, what
are they perfect? No? I think with Armstead out and
now you know with Dava poured out for a little
bit here their defensive end, that hurts them along the
line of scrimmage. I just think the team is built
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inside that home and uh, and they've handled their business
and won some key road games. It looks like they
could be headed towards being in that dome for for
the playoffs. And I don't see anybody going there and
beating them in the playoffs if they have home field advantage.
Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL and Network Moved the Sticks
is is the podcast And there's a local reporter who
tracked every one of Tom Brady's passes last week and
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it wasn't a good report. It wasn't like he was
Tebow in it. But for for Tom Brady, it was
it was kind of Tebow like in terms of his missus,
lack of lack of arm strength, how long has this
been going Is this this is a one weekend thing
or has this been going on for a while. That's
tricky because in that game, when you go back and
watch it, a lot of his misses he's, uh, he's
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protecting himself. So he's turning his shoulder and just trying
to break for a hit and he's sacrificing a completion
in the process. So when they when they've heated him up,
he's protecting himself. Now is that something that's uh, you know,
it's it's going to be an issue for him going forward.
That's one way to look out. The other way to
look at us. He knows his true value to this
team and if they if they lose a regular season
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game in the process, and he protects himself, then that's
probably the smart way to go about doing it. But
that is definitely something to keep an eye on. Because
he had a choice, I mean had choice to to
expose his chest and get completions or tuck his shoulder
and protect himself and throw the ball away and and
uh and myths I should say not throw it away,
and he chose to protect himself. So that's just something
to keep an eye on. That was not something I've
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seen a lot of this year, but it was definitely
the case in that Tennessee game. Give me your perspective
on Mitch Rabinsky. Obviously, the defense getting Khalil mac is dynamic.
They're facing off of the Vikings, a pretty good defense
when healthy in its own right. Uh, Rabinsky has some
warts in terms of accuracy. He is a really really
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good athlete. But they've played a very very soft schedule.
How good is Drabinsky? Well, I think he's playing well now.
I think there's a lot of things that go into that.
I think when you look at the design that they've had,
um is a big part of it. And I think
you look at they've got guys that can win one
on one now, Um, so he's finding one on once
and uh and and he's he's got guys that are winning.
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Alan Robinson went off last week. Anthony Miller is a
good route runner who generates some space. Um, he's got
those backs you know three Cohen come out of the
backfield as some way they can create space. So, um,
you know the way the NFL is played right now, Doug,
I just feel like you watch teams are doing well,
they find a way to create space, and they do
that with play cooling, but they also do that with
guys that are sudden and guys that can separate. And
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you see some teams that are struggling, usually you can
place the blame and in both those areas. So he's
playing well, but I think a lot of it has
to do with what they've done around him. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah, who covers the l A charge.
I want to ask you about the Chargers. Looks like
they're gonna get Joey Bosa back, whether it's this weekend
or next weekend, that changed them for the better. On
the other hand, they lose pairman. They're starting middle linebacker.
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When last year when they didn't have him the start
of the year, they were awful. So are they Are
they better or worse with with Bosabo without Praman? Now
they're gonna be better? Um, you know, just because both
is such a he's such a game change and talent.
Even if you have him for third downs for a
couple of weeks, um and he's just getting a twelve
fifteen snaps, he just he treakes so much value because
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it's gonna free up Melvin Ingram one on one, I'll
take movin Ingram over everybody he's gonna see, so that's
gonna loosen him up. And then with Andrew at the linebackers,
phisition Perman really well and they rel at him so much.
But I think now they've have they have better depth
and better talent up front in front of him, and
they've done a nice job. I give Gus Bradley credit.
They're just playing dime. Uh he's realized that Adrian Phillips
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pounds is a better option than than playing Uh, you know,
you got Hayes Pillard who's two hundred thirty five pounds.
So it's been you know, Pollard will play a little bit.
But they've just gone with a better player instead of saying,
you know what, this guy's gotta lb next to his name,
this guy's got a safety next to his name. Let's
just get our best guys on the field. And I'd
much rather have a linebacker basically is what he's playing
(31:57):
in Phillips, who can run and cover all day long.
And might you know, maybe you give up a seven
eight yard run here there, as opposed to a linebacker
who struggles to cover, you get you get uncovered real
real quick, and you get exposed if that happens you
You used to work in Baltimore in the front office there.
What's your sense of what they do this weekend with Flacco?
Bang up? I think it will be an audition for
for Lamar Jackson. I really do. I'll be I'll be
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shocked if it's RG three. Um it just you know,
this is a This is a situation where John Harbod
knows he needs to make the playoffs and if he
doesn't make the playoffs, he better at least how generate
some excitement and um, you know, we'll see if that
can work with Lamar Jackson. I'm I'm anxious to just
see what what the offense looks like with him. Um.
But I thought he would get an audition at some
point time this year, and I would imagine if he
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if he does play well in this game. I don't
know that Joe Flacco would get his job back. Now
that's a big if. We have to wait and see.
But I think I think we'll get a look at
him this week. Awesome stuff. D J. By the way,
I will be in the booth next to you guys
next weekend radio. Yeah. So I wasn't how did it go?
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Give me? I know you probably talked about give me
a clip how to go with BALI last week? Oh,
Baldi was great. I mean Baldi was so good. Um
I was. I thought I got progressively better. I've listened
to some of it, and I walked away thinking I
was really bad. Um. I don't know how you thought
after your first game, doing your first game on radio.
I just I don't know. I felt I was. It
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was such a foreign feeling and um. I walked away
thinking I got better, but I wasn't that good. And
then but I said, if I get another shot, I
know exactly what I need to do and how I
can do it, and um. And then I listened to
it and I was like, you know what it wasn't
wasn't that bad? I don't know, Yeah, I mean I
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I thought it was bad. Like I was like, man,
I don't want to even listen to it. And then
I did Petros and money Um earlier in the week
and they played some of it and I was like,
that's not bad. That's actually decent. And I had a
friend who listened. I was like, oh it was. It
was good, and I was like, no, way, it was
not good. So but Bald he's the best. I mean,
he knows everybody. He knows everybody, he knows that what's
coming before it's coming. He does his homework, he's great
(34:07):
to work with. There's I mean, it was amazing. So
we'll be there a week from Sunday with Arizona taking
on the Chargers. Will be at stub Hub. I love it. Man.
Well the I'll tell you what. Uh the press pox
to meal was on me, buddy. Uh, there you go,
thank you. I actually like the little food trucks they
have for people who haven't been to a Charger game.
They actually have food trucks inside the stadium. I don't
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know if they normally have those there for when soccer
is there, because I've never been to soccer, but it's
actually kind of a cool thing that they have, uh,
for for the Charges and they played stop up. Thanks
so much for joining us, and we'll talk to you soon,
see Bud.
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what would we just load up with? Get back end?
I just asked questions. Rob Riggle is gonna be our guest.
Daniel Jeremiah's our guest, Joel Class our guest. And we
got my picks, which have been fantastic in college football.
NFL picks are fine, College foall picks have been amazing,
simply amazing. Uh, no blood last night right because of
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a three point spread? Is that correct? I had? I
do believe I had the packers straight up. To be
honest with you, I had the packers straight up, and
so I lost. Um, somebody else had the packers. I
think it was rommost may have had the packers. Oh
it's music. You had the packers, but you had the packers.
But there was no blood because you did not say
packers straight up. You just said packers to cover. So
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I got your back their music. Everybody else, even you'd
only lose the vig. I lost it all because I
put packers straight up. But it's not out of frustration
that I go on this rant. It's it's not and
it's with full admittance that Tie Montgomery simply takes a
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knee in the end zone. The Packers are in a
different place. If you know, you look at a couple
of fun two straight weeks of untimely fumbles, and they
had Mason Crosby issues in one of their games, and
they got a tie game against the Minister. Like you
go all these things together, and right now the Packers
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are looking like a payoff playoff pretender, not a playoff contender,
and one that might get the head coach fired. And
it's not that the Packers decided to not go for
it on fourth and two last night. It honestly is not.
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And you're like, no, that that's exactly what I don't know.
It's honestly that has not that that is not really
the reason that head coaching matters, But it does matter
because of the answer that Mike McCarthy gave to us. See,
Mike McCarthy said that the numbers told him and they
(03:12):
went by the numbers. That's by the numbers. Well that's
what the math says. And yet all the numbers guys
are like, yeah, we didn't come up with that one
at all, Right, Like, no, no, that's not really actually
even close to being accurate. And if you wanted to
say that Seattle had already uh had already punted twice
(03:35):
in the second half, they had scored in their previous
drive at seven place seventy five yard drive to take
the lead. And if you wanted to say that the
Green Bay Packers, it only managed eight yards, and that
not getting a first down at your own thirty three
yard line was sure sure, sure death right, because now
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a sudden Seattle is already in field goal range, and
you know it's not even best or worst case scenario.
A reasonable scenario is they hold the ball for a
couple of minutes and then they kick a field goal
and you're down six. You gotta score a touchdown. That's
not a terrible scenario. But if you want to sit
there and say, hey, look, we hadn't even moved it yet.
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We had only scored a field goal in the second half.
We didn't feel great about how our offense was playing,
and we felt pretty good about our defensive ability to
get one stop against the Seahawks. It is just a
gut field thing. This is just me challenging my defense
to get a stop to get the ball back to
Aaron Rodgers. If you wanted to go with that, I
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could go with that. If you wanted to say that
the numbers were based upon being at your own thirty
three yard line field position wise, didn't seem like a
wise move. But when you say the numbers, you're talking
about football analytics. Oh to the numbers, Like, no one's
(05:05):
gonna check the numbers. Yeah, we're gonna check your work.
Reminds me of like math class and you just like,
all of a sudden, the kid goes from having ds
and fs to getting an A like, yeah, we're gonna
do more than just run the scantron. We're gonna, all right,
we're gonna we're gonna see how you came upon the
magic pencil. That that's the thing that sets off alarms
(05:30):
with the testing, with the testing folks, for the s
A T. I don't know if you guys remember this,
Like Derrick Rose famously took his s A T in
Detroit even though he's from Chicago. Couldn't pass the s
A You know, you couldn't take the SA T in
your hometown. Lamar Odom didn't pass the s A T
in New York. Then all of a sudden, he flies
out to Lynnwood High School in l a And magically
(05:53):
passes the s A T. All right, yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna check that one. We're gonna have you take
the test. Again, we're gonna kind of figure this thing out.
It's Mike McCarthy telling us the numbers told me. That's
almost like saying, uh, just handing somebody a resume and
pretending that they're gonna skip skim over it. And you're
saying you went to Harvard and we're not gonna make
a call. All We're gonna make one call. Yeah, nobody
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named Gottli went to Harvard. Well are somebody would name
Gottleib went to Harvard, but not that Doug Gotley went
to Harvard. It's not one little thing, it's the whole thing.
It just is. And is it unfair? Probably? I mean
he told he told Time Montgomery. They told Time Montgomery,
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under no uncertain circumstances, do you want to bring the
ball out of the end zone. He did, He fumbled,
And they had pulled Time Montgomery from the previous series
after missing a block that ended up in a sack.
They like Aaron Jones, and they've given Aaron Jones the
football more here late in the season. But it's not
like it's Mike Mike McCarthy's fault that Aaron Jones fumbled
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in their last game. But he did It's not like
it's Mike McCarthy's fault that a reliable field goal kicker
who's been able to kick in terrible weather, trrential rains
and wins as well. Mason Crosby suddenly has a bad day.
But he did, and it's not his fault that the
Devents can't get one stop or that the offense could
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only get eight yards. It was on an old side
of the football for the three thirty three yard line.
But there just doesn't seem to be a great deal
of belief. There just doesn't seem to be a cohesive
coach said it, let's do it. It doesn't feel like
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it's a marriage that's meant to last. And that's okay.
Not every marriage is meant to last, not even marriage.
Maybe the best analogy really for this thing is Mike
McCarthy came home late last night and he was like, yeah,
you know, I was I was at I was at
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Wild Wings. They were, huh, that's funny because I was
at Wild Wings and you weren't there, Like like nobody's
gonna check. He leaves credit card receipts all around the
place and it does not say wild Wings. Like these
are things that are not hard to check up on
saying the numbers told you to punt when it's third
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and two, fourth and two, and you have arguably the
best quarterback in the sport, and for my money, the
most talented quarterback who's ever played the sport, who can
not only get the first down with his arm, can
get it with his uh snap, cant with a hard count,
and can get it with his legs as well. In
three ways in which you can pick up two yards
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with mostly only Aaron Rodgers, maybe you get a little
help from Davante Adams, and yet he chose to punt.
And I I've sat here into offended, conservative natured coaches
in the past. I have that sometimes you have the feeling.
But what I can't defend is this numbers. What numbers? Mike,
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what numbers? Because all the numbers guys like, yeah, that's
not actually the way it works. And it feels like
a guy who the NFL and the use of analytics
and the idea of how to smartly use different times
in the game, different yard, different down and distances to
their advantage, and he hasn't been able to be one
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step ahead of it. Instead, he's one step behind and
he's claiming numbers support something that they absolutely don't support.
I mean, I thought we were gonna have Aaron Rodgers
score a touchdown and then have Russell Wilson running around
trying to make a play, trying to get a last
second touchdown, much like we had last weekend at home
against the Chargers, and what we'd likely get in most
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this weekends at home for the Seahawks. That's like how
every Seahawk game ends. Instead, Chris Carson gets the first down,
and that was that. Don't tell me the numbers support
something that it's not hard for us to do the
math and they don't support. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon
(10:21):
eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in. A guy who
plays defensive back for the Chicago Bears. First place Chicago
Bears Prince of Mucamara joins us here on The Doug
got Leap Show on Fox Sport Trade. If you have
been following this story outside of Chicago Colde Park, He's
had a great year last year kicking for the Dolphins.
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He was a big signing for them, and he did
miss a kick that could have beaten the Dolphins. Other
than that was having a good year, had a terrible
day on Sunday. And then, Prince, have you seen I'm
sure you know of this. He was kicking at Soldier
Field at night one night and they had local helicopters
circle around. You ever seen any thing like this before? No? No,
I have not, No, I have not, but it, I
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mean it makes sense, Um, sold just feel it is
a is a UM. I mean it's a difficult field
to uh to kick in and um, I mean it's
windy and um and yeah, so just to just to
train there and get those reps, I'm sure it's in
poring for him. Yeah, yeah, No, it's it's a it's
a completely different. There have been guys before they that
(11:26):
have complained about the footing. What's it like for you
to play there in your home games? I love it?
I mean I think it's uh, I think it's an
advantage to us if if guys are complaining, but um,
I don't have no problem with it, and um, it's
definitely home field advantage. Prince Mugamara joined us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. There's there's so
(11:46):
much talk about Khalil and the guys up front. What's
your sense of And you know, he missed a couple
of games. You guys performed well without him. When he's back.
We saw what he did to Detroit and he's done
to other people. What's this defense like to be a
part of. Man, it's just I mean, I don't know
where to start it. I mean, it's definitely an exciting time.
I mean, we finished top ten last year in defense,
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and we knew, um, we wanted to take that extra,
that extra step this year. And then I mean, but
then with the addition of Krel, that that extra step
with a little bit more um promising and UM. And yeah,
Khalil came back last week. I think he I think
he had a two piece. I think he had two sacks,
and um, he just picking up from where he left off.
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And I keep telling everybody he really just makes everybody
that much that much better just because he requires so
much attention, um on the on the line, and he's
getting triple team, double team, so it opens up, uh
for everybody else. On the other hand, is there ever
a sense like, look that's this is a D team
that we had a successful defense last year, granted different
(12:52):
coaching staff with John Fox and and and and perform
well without him. How do you guys, how do you
guys not have any jealousy over the attention not just
the money, but the attention that uh. Like I said,
I think one thing is is that like we genuinely
(13:12):
like love each other as teammates, Like we hang out
during the week, um and and I think that helps
us UM even become closer together on on Sundays or
whenever we play. But I think another thing is is
that everybody is eating everybody is UM is making plays
on the ball like anybody in our secondary I think
(13:33):
has has has a pick, uh. And then and then
I think almost everybody on the line has a sex.
So everybody's play is given is getting elevated. So um
and and the playmaking ability is just has just been contagious.
So UM we know that UM it's a it's a
team effort, and we're just a group of guys who
doesn't care who gets the credits. Like like you said
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in the beginning, like we're the first team where the
we're the first place UM in the division. And I
think that's what we really care about. We just want
to win, all right. When you see the Packers lose
last night? What what's the emotions that go through your body?
I mean, I mean, uh, god, I know what to say.
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I mean Green Day. Just tell me, just tell me
how you feel, Like like, are you're sitting there you
want them to lose so that they quit? Or do
you want them to win so it's more competitive? Like
how honestly do you feel when you watch a team
that you're still gonna have to play again on at
Soldier Field? The team you guys are up seventeen nothing
against the first week of the season, when you see
him lose? What's what's how does it make you feel?
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I mean anytime I mean anytime any of our opponents
can get can get beat in in the division. I
mean it's always it's always great and um but um,
I mean we we know what happened the first week,
and I mean we're excited to play them when when
when that day come? But um yeah, watching a game
against Seattle, Um yeah, I was. I was excited for Seattle,
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uh to win. Of course, this is your first chance
to see the Vikings this year, first chance to see
Kirk Cousins this year. I know you've seen him in
the past. You get two games against the Vikings. Uh,
Chris Mukamarrow joining us in the Dougoultice. Of course you
had to pick last week. Um. And as good as
Cousins is, he'll throw one or two a game. You
were like, wait, what what happened there? When when you
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when you watch Cousins play, when you watch this offense,
what do you see? Man? I see an offense that's
that's dynamic, and I mean they love to get they
love to get the ball to their playmakers. And we
know that Adam Dealing and Stefan Dix are there guys
and they're gonna try to put them in different spots
to uh to get them the ball. And kirk Kirk
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is very very accurate and um he's the leader of
that team and ums, he's going to try to try
to get them going. So we know, especially at the
defensive backfield, we're going to have our our work cut
out for us trying to guard those guys. What about
what what's the secret to theeling? Like? How does how's
this guy going from being undrafted? I mean he's like
an NFL walk on to being one of the top
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wide receivers in the game, which when you watch him,
what's the secret to him? Man, Um, He's just he's
just consistent. And greatness is when you do UM, when
you're consistent, like as much as much as you can be.
And he's just been consistent catching the ball, making plays,
running great routes and UM. And he's not and he's
(16:26):
not backing down. And a lot of great a lot
of great dbs has has been guarding him and he's
and he's been UM, he's been excelling. He's been making plays.
So so yeah, I don't think he could be denied
that he's not playing like one of the best wide
receivers in the game, because he clearly is. I don't
know how many people have followed the Bears um the
first team to take advantage of the NFL Social Injustice
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Social Justice Initiative and donate two plus forty players on
the roster. Remember there's only fifty three active, but forty
forty players have joined in the donate two six hundred
dollars collectively. Who who who is it? You? Who's been
the guy who's spearheaded this thing? Because you know it
(17:08):
works when everybody says I'll date eight money, I'll done
ain't money, but you need somebody to really get Guys like, no, dude,
you gotta put the money in now, we gotta get
this thing done. Who's been the guy? Yeah, so I
would say a couple of guys just said the first
thing that comes to my head is is sam Acho
and um so sam Acho Minster bisky a team. Those
are the guys who are like, hey, like, let's like
(17:30):
like like, let's let's be proactive, like let's let's actually
do something and stuff like that, because it all started
when the you know, like we all decided what we're
gonna do for the for the anthem, and and guys said,
all right, let's not let's just not show that we're
united by linking arms, like, let's let's actually um be proactive.
(17:51):
And then guys are saying, hey, there's this social justice
fun and let's let's be the first team to do
it in um guys, just we just group group together
and we've got it done. It's pretty amazing. Of course,
the Bear is gonna match the tollal donation of three
thou dollars long with additional matching grants from Bears Care
in the NFL Foundation. Great stuff you're doing, hey listen.
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Continued success and health to you and everyone around you.
We really pushed appreciate you joining us. Good luck in
the vikings me be sure to catch live editions so
the Doug dot Leaps show week days in noon eastern
three pm Pacific. All right, last night, Uh, the Warriors
played the Rockets. It did not go well. Did not
go well for the Warriors. They got blown out by
(18:33):
the Rockets. K D looked um, he looked okay, he
had twenty, he didn't make a shot. I mean part
of what people are missing. And I've heard I've heard
many of my media brethren say, like, we'll see that
just shows Steph Curry is more important to this team.
He's better than Kevin Durant. No, he's not. Steph Curry
(18:59):
has moments where he's better, any moments where he's worse.
He's not as consistently as spectacular, and he's not. It
doesn't affect the game nearly as much at both ends
of the floors. Kevin Durant is and I think Steph
Curry is amazing. He's been a two time m v P,
including UM a unanimous m v p But what we
we have to realize is the Warriors. Warriors, by the way,
(19:19):
are without two starters. Like what like DeMarcus Cousins is
going to start for them and Steph Curry is gonna
come back. They got two fifths of their starters. And
part of what's happened since their first championship when they
had a very deep and solid bench and kind of
perfect pieces they got together, is they had to dismantle
(19:41):
that bench one because of age and uh some evolution
to because some guys got paid salary wise in three
in order to go get Kevin Durant. This is so
(20:02):
you know, I I'm sorry. I look and I I
say to myself, dude, this is really really really simple,
really simple that that as much as Durant and his
inability to be decisive as to what he's doing or
just leave open the possibility of leaving Golden State has
(20:24):
allowed all of us to have the conversation, let's not
get it twisted. Draymond Green is the problem. Like Draymond
somehow has become this heroic character because he's called out
Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant's manhood and Kevin Durants like, Hey,
don't ask me this question anymore. I don't blame him
(20:45):
personal relationship, I answered as much as I'm gonna answer,
and oh yeah, by the way, uh, this was about
Draymond and Draymond answered for the last time. He even said,
you didn't take questions I got. People today are stephen A.
Smith coming after Kevin Durant for saying, hey, don't ask
me about that anymore. Draymond Green said, don't ask me
about this. I'm not taking any questions. Here's gonna say.
(21:05):
That's all'm gonna say about it. End of story. That
was yesterday. And then after the game they want to
ask him to ask Kevin kad about it, Like we
just said, we're not talking about anymore. And then he said, hey,
can you talk about it? But this is what Yahoo
insider Chris Haines had said the response, this is what happened.
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This is what caused Draymond gets suspended. Get the f
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reportedly called Durant the B word the entire time. Then
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we don't need you, we won without you. Leave. Draymond
Green is Denzel Washington and you're like, Okay, that's I'm
(21:48):
you have my attention, Gottlieb. Which version of Denzel Washington
is he? Is he falling Denzel Washington? Did you like them?
I love the movie following I feel like that rama.
That's an underrated movie. Freaky, scary but really really good. Right,
there's the version of him. Glory is great and Glory
no no. Draymond is Denzel in Training Day. Remember Alonso,
(22:12):
the badass cop was really on the take and then
leaves Ethan hawk uh in the hood where he was
nearly murdered. Remember that. You remember at the end of
the movie where where Alonso that's Denzel Washington's character thinks
that all these guys in the hood have his back,
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all of them take care of my business. You're nothing
without me. I run this place, I run this hood,
and and they tell Ethan Hawk's character go ahead and
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Springing Daniels Amya from the NFL Network and also covers
the l A Chargers on radio dj UM. Let's let's
start with Aaron Rodgers. How much of what went wrong
last night is his fault? How much of it is
Mike McCarthy's fault. Well, I would probably put more of
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it on McCarthy, just just for the the way the
offense is geared and the way the offense is set up.
But I don't think that Rogers is blameless as some
would believe. He ran himself into several sacks in that game,
just here to the ball man. Uh. That's something that
frustrates me a little bit when I watched him and
he missed some guys too. There are some vision things,
some things that he missed, so he wasn't playing at
(23:38):
its highest level. But if you're gonna place more of
the blame to me, if you're gonna put a percentage
on it, I would put it, uh, probably on coaching
and on Rogers. But you know what, if you don't
agree with that, we can fight, you know, yeah, you can.
We can totally fight, but only in person, not in student.
Well we'll talk trash, you know, bhind microphones and be
be a lot tougher that way. I do think one
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of the missed stories because we're so ingrained to talk
about Rogers and McCarthy. I kind of think Pete Carroll
has done an amazing job this year. Right, Like they
were in those Rams games, right, there's been there haven't been.
They were in the charge, I know the charger, you
called it, and they left seven points on the field
with their kicking game. But they did have Russell Wilson
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with the ball, a chance to tie it up and
ball that was deflected late. Like, considering all of the departures,
the dysfunction within the offensive line last year, were shot
Penny taking half a season to come around. Um, all
the massive injuries that they've they've suffered, you know, Doug
Baldwin was hurting the preseason. Like they've done a really
nice job in Seattle. And they're not terrible. No, they're
(24:43):
not terrible at all. It's interesting the way they're doing it. Um,
you know what, they're just saying, we're gonna run, run, run,
run run. They know their offensive line cannot pass protect.
So instead of beating your head against the wall, um
and wishing and hoping for something that can't happen, they're
just running it and all their their financial game is
what Russell Wilson does best. So I'm not having to
throw it a ton, but he's being efficient, hitting some
(25:03):
big plays down the field off that play action. Defensively,
you know, they primarily they rushed four guys. They play coverage,
They try and keep the ball in front of you,
and you saw that pass rush get home. But trying
to limit the big plays down the field and then
and then run the football. It's kind of an old
school approach. I don't you know. Look, if they will
somehow get into the playoffs, I don't think that they
would be as dangerous as they were back in the day.
(25:26):
But what they're getting out of what they have is
I think it's one of Pete Carroll's best coaching jobs.
I don't think there's any question about it. I agree
with you, Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's let's bounce around the NFL a little bit. Does
feel does feel like the Cowboys have a shot, right
Falkins are all beat up, they got no defense. Then
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the Skins come in next week and the Skins are
all banged up defensively. I'm not not a big buyer
into them. Like it feels like the Cowboys this is
their uh. The golf expression is moving day on on Saturdays.
Feels like Sunday's moving day, that they're going home or
they got a shot at this. Agree or disagree, No,
I agree with you. I think both Dallas and Philadelphia
still have a shot. And when you look at the schedules,
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I mean, I know, uh, you know, Philadelphia has got
a tough one this week. I think they'll lose to
the Saints. I think they'll loose to the Rams. But
the magic number is nine. Somehow get to nine wins,
which would mean Philadelphi would have to run the table
and their other games. Dallas their schedules a little bit
more favorable, uh, and Washington schedules brutal. I mean, I
could definitely see Washington lose their next three games, starting
with the Texans this week, just because the injuries they
(26:30):
have along the offensive line. So I think it's just
gonna be whoever can get to that nine win mark
in the Cowboys just they if they use the formula
they use last week. Again it was their defense just
flying around generator turnover too uh and then run the
ball short in the game. They've they've got a chance,
no question. Um, let's get to the Philadelphia Eagles. How
can they be fixed? Well, you know, it's it's interesting there.
(26:54):
They'll uh timmy journey and coming back eventually, I think
will help them a little bit at the line of scrimmage. Um.
But you know, they've had so many injuries on the
offensive line and the secondary which was on the outside. Uh,
you know, it wasn't playing well before injury, and now
you add injury on top of that and you look
at who they have to play. I mean, like I said,
I kind of pencil on the two losses with the
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Saints and the Rams. Uh, that means they have to
be clean that it means they have to run the
table on the remainder of their games to get to
that nine wind mark. So that's a that's a tough,
tough hurdle for them. And they've you know, they've got
they've got some issues they need to address in the
off season. They've got some ads there at left tackle
with with Peters, I think that might be it for him. Um,
and they need to get better at corner. They're just
not good enough out there. There's too much space Okay,
(27:37):
let's get to the Saints. Are they in fact the
best team in football? I think so? You know, I
think so. I think when you look at what they did,
you know what they've done, go on total toe with
some good teams. Um, you know, like I do, what
are they perfect? No? I think with Armstead out and
now you know with Dava poured out for a little
bit here their defensive end, that hurts them along the
line of scrimmage. I just think the team is built
(27:59):
inside that home and uh, and they've handled their business
and won some key road games. It looks like they
could be headed towards being in that dome for for
the playoffs. And I don't see anybody going there and
beating them in the playoffs if they have home field advantage.
Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL and Network Moved the Sticks
is is the podcast And there's a local reporter who
tracked every one of Tom Brady's passes last week and
(28:21):
it wasn't a good report. It wasn't like he was
Tebow in it. But for for Tom Brady, it was
it was kind of Tebow like in terms of his missus,
lack of lack of arm strength, how long has this
been going Is this this is a one weekend thing
or has this been going on for a while. That's
tricky because in that game, when you go back and
watch it, a lot of his misses he's, uh, he's
(28:42):
protecting himself. So he's turning his shoulder and just trying
to break for a hit and he's sacrificing a completion
in the process. So when they when they've heated him up,
he's protecting himself. Now is that something that's uh, you know,
it's it's going to be an issue for him going forward.
That's one way to look out. The other way to
look at us. He knows his true value to this
team and if they if they lose a regular season
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game in the process, and he protects himself, then that's
probably the smart way to go about doing it. But
that is definitely something to keep an eye on. Because
he had a choice, I mean had choice to to
expose his chest and get completions or tuck his shoulder
and protect himself and throw the ball away and and
uh and myths I should say not throw it away,
and he chose to protect himself. So that's just something
to keep an eye on. That was not something I've
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seen a lot of this year, but it was definitely
the case in that Tennessee game. Give me your perspective
on Mitch Rabinsky. Obviously, the defense getting Khalil mac is dynamic.
They're facing off of the Vikings, a pretty good defense
when healthy in its own right. Uh, Rabinsky has some
warts in terms of accuracy. He is a really really
(29:44):
good athlete. But they've played a very very soft schedule.
How good is Drabinsky? Well, I think he's playing well now.
I think there's a lot of things that go into that.
I think when you look at the design that they've had,
um is a big part of it. And I think
you look at they've got guys that can win one
on one now, Um, so he's finding one on once
and uh and and he's he's got guys that are winning.
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Alan Robinson went off last week. Anthony Miller is a
good route runner who generates some space. Um, he's got
those backs you know three Cohen come out of the
backfield as some way they can create space. So, um,
you know the way the NFL is played right now, Doug,
I just feel like you watch teams are doing well,
they find a way to create space, and they do
that with play cooling, but they also do that with
guys that are sudden and guys that can separate. And
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you see some teams that are struggling, usually you can
place the blame and in both those areas. So he's
playing well, but I think a lot of it has
to do with what they've done around him. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah, who covers the l A charge.
I want to ask you about the Chargers. Looks like
they're gonna get Joey Bosa back, whether it's this weekend
or next weekend, that changed them for the better. On
the other hand, they lose pairman. They're starting middle linebacker.
(30:50):
When last year when they didn't have him the start
of the year, they were awful. So are they Are
they better or worse with with Bosabo without Praman? Now
they're gonna be better? Um, you know, just because both
is such a he's such a game change and talent.
Even if you have him for third downs for a
couple of weeks, um and he's just getting a twelve
fifteen snaps, he just he treakes so much value because
(31:13):
it's gonna free up Melvin Ingram one on one, I'll
take movin Ingram over everybody he's gonna see, so that's
gonna loosen him up. And then with Andrew at the linebackers,
phisition Perman really well and they rel at him so much.
But I think now they've have they have better depth
and better talent up front in front of him, and
they've done a nice job. I give Gus Bradley credit.
They're just playing dime. Uh he's realized that Adrian Phillips
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pounds is a better option than than playing Uh, you know,
you got Hayes Pillard who's two hundred thirty five pounds.
So it's been you know, Pollard will play a little bit.
But they've just gone with a better player instead of saying,
you know what, this guy's gotta lb next to his name,
this guy's got a safety next to his name. Let's
just get our best guys on the field. And I'd
much rather have a linebacker basically is what he's playing
(31:57):
in Phillips, who can run and cover all day long.
And might you know, maybe you give up a seven
eight yard run here there, as opposed to a linebacker
who struggles to cover, you get you get uncovered real
real quick, and you get exposed if that happens you
You used to work in Baltimore in the front office there.
What's your sense of what they do this weekend with Flacco?
Bang up? I think it will be an audition for
for Lamar Jackson. I really do. I'll be I'll be
(32:20):
shocked if it's RG three. Um it just you know,
this is a This is a situation where John Harbod
knows he needs to make the playoffs and if he
doesn't make the playoffs, he better at least how generate
some excitement and um, you know, we'll see if that
can work with Lamar Jackson. I'm I'm anxious to just
see what what the offense looks like with him. Um.
But I thought he would get an audition at some
point time this year, and I would imagine if he
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if he does play well in this game. I don't
know that Joe Flacco would get his job back. Now
that's a big if. We have to wait and see.
But I think I think we'll get a look at
him this week. Awesome stuff. D J. By the way,
I will be in the booth next to you guys
next weekend radio. Yeah. So I wasn't how did it go?
(33:02):
Give me? I know you probably talked about give me
a clip how to go with BALI last week? Oh,
Baldi was great. I mean Baldi was so good. Um
I was. I thought I got progressively better. I've listened
to some of it, and I walked away thinking I
was really bad. Um. I don't know how you thought
after your first game, doing your first game on radio.
I just I don't know. I felt I was. It
(33:23):
was such a foreign feeling and um. I walked away
thinking I got better, but I wasn't that good. And
then but I said, if I get another shot, I
know exactly what I need to do and how I
can do it, and um. And then I listened to
it and I was like, you know what it wasn't
wasn't that bad? I don't know, Yeah, I mean I
(33:46):
I thought it was bad. Like I was like, man,
I don't want to even listen to it. And then
I did Petros and money Um earlier in the week
and they played some of it and I was like,
that's not bad. That's actually decent. And I had a
friend who listened. I was like, oh it was. It
was good, and I was like, no, way, it was
not good. So but Bald he's the best. I mean,
he knows everybody. He knows everybody, he knows that what's
coming before it's coming. He does his homework, he's great
(34:07):
to work with. There's I mean, it was amazing. So
we'll be there a week from Sunday with Arizona taking
on the Chargers. Will be at stub Hub. I love it. Man.
Well the I'll tell you what. Uh the press pox
to meal was on me, buddy. Uh, there you go,
thank you. I actually like the little food trucks they
have for people who haven't been to a Charger game.
They actually have food trucks inside the stadium. I don't
(34:30):
know if they normally have those there for when soccer
is there, because I've never been to soccer, but it's
actually kind of a cool thing that they have, uh,
for for the Charges and they played stop up. Thanks
so much for joining us, and we'll talk to you soon,
see Bud.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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