November 11, 2025 • 47 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open the show with their thoughts and reactions following the Monday Night Football game between the Eagles and Packers... Should we be concerned about the Packers' struggles as of late? Why can't the Eagles get into more of a rhythm on offense? Then the guys get into the rest of Week 10, going through each of the matchups and giving their biggest fantasy takeaways from around the league. Plus, Mike shares his hot waiver wire adds of the week as we move into Week 11!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Week ten's a rap with ten points scored by the winner.
Just like we started to hit Mike up at Swollen Dome.
You can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox. You
can find Ian at Dean Roddy Underscore. Yeah, Mike, let's
start from Lambeau where it ended in Lambeau, because Week
ten not tens across the board.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
When we're talking about fantasy football, abject failure in many spots,
curious coaching decisions, temperatures down, and the scoring goes right
with it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I mean, the book ends for Week ten give us
two ten to seven games that kind of set offense
back for long periods of time. I don't know that
I'll ever recover, because then we start week eleven guys
with the Jets and the Patriots, So I mean that's
where we're headed in the next frontier. But on Monday night,
I mean, you had two drives that consume the entire
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first quarter. It's like, all right, the Eagles, it's a long,
protracted drive, You've got penalties, you've got chass, and then
you get a fumble. It's like, what the hell all
of that for nothing, not even a field goal try
from Elliott that'll come in later. But for Jalen Hurts,
he had the one possession. They had two explosive plays
on the touchdown drive, so you get DeVante Smith, he
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continues in your good graces, four for sixty nine and
a score like it's not world beating, but it's at
least a seventeen point day gets you across the finish line.
Saquon Barkley goes over one hundred total yards, but certainly
not the explosives. Look, you know you're going up against
the Packers d They were top five against opposing runners
coming in, But based on what we saw against the
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Giants and a bye week, you think you're gonna get better. Well,
Lane Johnson leaves for a chunk of the game with
an ankle injury eventually comes back, so maybe that affects
some of your running, but you don't get much there.
Hurts doesn't give you much in the run game, just
five attempts for twenty seven yards, so no love. And
then the rest of the receiving corps. I guess you'll
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take your eight point three from Dallas Goddard. Aj Brown
was targeted seven times, which gave you a whole lot
of enoughing. Yeah, including that last fade route that hit
Valentine square on the back. I'm half thinking that Jalen
Hurs was looking for the interception so that they could
play defense from the three and maybe force a defensive
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touchdown in the final man, I have no idea what
that was. That was like playing dodgeball. And then Josh
Jacobs gives you the rushing touch down, So you finished
with twenty one seventy four and he had five catches.
So for the PPR league out there, you got eight
point three points out of the receiving total. So he
ends up with a pretty nice night. But he's the
only one.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I have a tough time moving off of the Eagles
because I look at their schedule. Mike, Yeah, you know,
you got a game against the Cowboys coming up the
weekend prior to Thanksgiving, You've got matchups with the Raiders
coming up, you have the Commanders and what would be
playoff time. Those are nice, juicy matchups. I just have
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no idea on who I can trust right now with Philadelphia,
Like I'm gonna start saguon Barkley because i have to.
I'm probably gonna start aj Brown because I have to.
But even with those matchups, I don't feel good playing
those guys because of just the inconsistencies all across the board.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, in Barkley, you're at least getting the touch and opportunities.
So twenty five touches against the Packers, the three catches
for forty one yards saves you a bit. So you
end up with a thirteen point day. Not world beating,
but when we're talking about where we are in half
PPR leagues, that got you to nearly, you know, a
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top fifteen ish kind of borderline play there with Hurts.
He's averaging two hundred and eight yards a game, so
passing wise, you're hoping, you know, for pay dirt in
the red zone, and really that's only been Devonte Smith,
Like that's the only guy I think that you can
trust weekend week out. Brown back end too, probably stays
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in your lineup because you're you're fearful of missing the
explosive game. But man, it's it's tough. You mentioned those
juicy matchups on TAP and they're like, all right, I
got to push in. But would you be surprised if
they if you rolled snake eyes in those? Now?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Not at all? And that's yeah, yeah, And that's the issue.
Like a perfect example in our standard league, which is
not PPR, there's a guy who was playing this week
and he, you know, like twenty five points, So basically
they're saying one hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns.
That's not out of the realm with possibility. If we're
talking about twenty twenty four with Saquon Barkley and now
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like in the third quarter, like he's come close, Like
there's they're not going to score two touchdowns in this game,
let alone have both of them be by Saquon Barkley.
So it was kind of over with And we all
know the feeling as well when you have a good
fantasy team and you're going in on on and the
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Eagles guys were like that, like it was almost like
a bonus to have Devonte Smith because maybe it was
your WR two or your your flexplay or WR three.
You're like, well, I got Davonte Smith to me drop,
you know, get one hundred and ten yards in a
score on you. I got aj Brown's my WR two.
I can't wait. None of those feels are back, even
with Barkley as a top guy. As you said, his
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stat line gets him in top fifteen, but when you
have him in your lineup, you're thinking top three performance
each week, and it's just so inconsistent.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean to this point, we've got one one
hundred yard game on the books in terms of his
rushing total, right against the Giants a couple of weeks ago.
So it was like, all right, did they meet her
out his touches because he didn't have a lot of
big carry games either, right, So script wise, they haven't
had Like the offense is sputtered. Let's just call it
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what it is, right, it's been sporadic, and you've lived
on that. There's still seven and two, which is really
the frightening thing of it all. Showing NFL twenty twenty
five that this has been able to pass through. But
for Barkley, we're not seeing the explosive runs. We're not
seeing the big finish. I mean is long on Monday
night was fifteen and that felt like it was a
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giant breakthrough, right, Like that's the scary thing of where
they're at. And then when you look at the backup thing,
if you were looking at the handcuff side, you're seeing
Shipley as equal to Tank Bigsby in terms of touchcount.
So even if you were in the plus matchup of
all right, desperation, I've got injured guys or got whatever.
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I can't trust either of those guys either, so you know,
in terms of the hail Mary throw. But like that's
a hard part because it was like, for we're talking
the investment, even if we thought Saquon would take a
step back off the two thousand clearly based on the
huge touch count of a year ago, this is like
falling off a cliff.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's such a it's such a mystery, and I think
it's probably because their offensive line just isn't as dominant
as it as it was. And I called Saquon Barkley inconsistent,
I should maybe call them consistent because the numbers just
haven't peaked, right, that's just right. That may be the
accurate portion of it, the Green Bay side of things. Oof. Yeah, Like,
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I mean, they missed Tucker Craft like it was. It
was plainly obvious. And now you wonder for a team
that many thought coming out of the gates like they
did and beating the Lions and then beating the Commanders
a few days later, two weeks in the hype with
Micah Parsons, Now you have a team that honestly is
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sitting there fighting for a playoff berth in the NFC.
They're in right now, they're nicely in, but if you
continue to performances like that together, it may not stay
that way.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I talked to folks in the Vegas Land ahead of
Week ten. The Bears at eight to one look suddenly
juicy based on JJ McCarthy and what we've seen from
these Packers when we look at for fantasy purposes. Right now,
Jordan Love ranks fourteenth for the year, and with the
loss of Tucker Craft, even with Christian Watson back, and
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obviously Golden wasn't available, not that he's been a big
factor for them. Like we're back to that same graphic
of here's a bunch of guys.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
All right, you got Josh.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Jacobs is the only guy that you trust in your
lineup at this point? Love, I guess shows up. I
think matchup dependent going forward as a back end, you
know QB ten through twelve. But am I trusting him
to put up a big stat line. No, it's gonna
be Josh Jacobs taking care of business at the goal line,
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short yardage situations, red zone himself.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Like.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
So, those streaks and all those things are fun, but
from the passing game, there's not a single guy I
would trust in a lineup right now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, I don't at all. I don't. I don't have
a lot of shares of Green Bay players. So for
my personal it's not that big of a deal. But
when you're looking at how they operate and really how
good Tuckercraft was and how it meant to other people
they really really missed him on Monday night, it was
it was pretty glaring. I also thought it was interesting Mikey,
(09:46):
and you know you mentioned the Thursday night game was
I didn't see as much complaining about this game as
we did about the Broncos Raiders game, which shocked aw,
this game is just atrocious, right.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And I know mutation wise, yeah, there's a little more
on the the defenses for both Philly and Green Bay.
Maybe because you could keep selling the hell out of
Micah Parsons. He had five pressures, O get great. That
doesn't sell. That doesn't sell a football game.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
People want points, correct.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And I mean go back to Thursday. I mean the
hatred of the Raiders, I think is what pushed that through.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That could be as that could be. And sometimes Sean
Payton does some crazy stuff, but it's not like Nick
Sirianni and Matt Lafleur going unquestioned with their with their performances.
But that face, I'll tell you what. As well, the
game on Sunday Night of Chargers Steelers. You want to
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talk about our three primetime games that the NFL gave
us sans a performance by the Chargers. I mean Pittsburgh
just gave again, just left nothing out there for anybody
to desire anything about what the Steelers have.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yees to Warren to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Mess with Aaron Rodgers and crew.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Well, he had the one throw that he could have
made that maybe it changes the game, right, ten ten
thirty or whatever it was, the first where he missed
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That was their threat, their play, and he knew it,
like the reaction shot right there. They finally broke one
that was going to be a big play and get
DK Metcalf into a game and it fell harmlessly incomplete.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
That was their one shot.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He also missed one shorter but to gainwell. Yeah, and
they were overshot gainwell and feeling pressure and that's just yeah,
just it not great football for us in primetime, but
the the other games may have saved us. Heck Ian's
Jets got to win. I mean, there's zeroes go there
was that.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
He said he wanted it, so.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, came at the cost of losing Garrett Wilson
now for three to four weeks. But is a win
is a win? Congratulations Ian, Well.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
We'll take the win, you know, show that they still
have some fight left in them and now Garrett's Garrett's hurt,
so we can take some losses help us in the
whether it be Fernando Mendoza or Tye Simpson sweep steaks.
But yeah, that's uh, it's tough to knock. I'm not
going to have them for the foreseeable future. But you know,
at least there's a glass half full point of view.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ian. I'll have more on his Jets coming up later
in the program. We've got our report cards for how
we did in week ten, plus Michael f some waiver
wire action for you looking ahead to week eleven, which
does feature those Jets taking on those Patriots. As Mike mentioned,
Thursday Night Football at its absolute finest hym, Mike got
at Swollendob. You can find me at Dan Byer on
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Fox and get Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. When we
come back, we'll take a look more at what stood
out from Week ten of your fantasy football season. That's
next here and I want your flex welcome back. I
want your flex. There was some carnage in week ten,
there was also some good. We dive into that. Mike Carmen,
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what stood up from to you for Week ten of
the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, some big point totals didn't necessarily translate to the
fantasy players you thought it would. Well, no, I mean
if you saw some of these forty point barrage is like, wait,
there's multiple defensive scores from Seattle, like good good, wait,
same guy? No, I mean, come on, you know, you've
got a Jalen Naylor in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Things you didn't think you'd see.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Right, there's Jefferson, there's Addison, there's Hockinson, there's Naylor at the.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Top of your list. We talked about it a little.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Bit, you know, Jamison Williams becoming that guy for Detroit
for a week. You know, not that you didn't get
big numbers from others don't, but you know guys that
kind of pop through that made you raise an eyebrow.
You know, we were talking a little bit off air,
you know, like when you talk about Trey Van Henderson
finally gets his shot, right, No, Ramandre Stevenson, but it's
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the all right, how are they gonna screw us? I
think was a lot of fantasy owners like because it's
clear they didn't want him as that guy. But for
this week they did more of Vidal for the Chargers
comes through with another top ten. The running back position
I think played more true than most of the others
as we kind of look at it as you go
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down the line. But just some of these monster performances
that just really were head scratch at Davis Mills. I
mean I had him as a ninja, but to have
the game that he ended and to finish it in
such dramatic fashion. You finished with nearly thirty points.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's in all in the basically the fourth quarter quarter,
right with the come back. Yeah, yeah, that was a
funky one with Jacksonville to stay, say the least. And
it does feel like Woody Marx I mocked the Texans
backfield previously, but Woody marks with a respectable showing at
least with the Texans in that contest, maybe doing something
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that we thought was going to happen at some point,
and that is wrestling the the main gigaway from Nick Chubb.
But it seemed more Woody Marks, at least for the
Texans in that in that contest. Maybe it was game
game plan as well, but still, you know, we knew
the limitations of Chubb.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I gave you a fifteen point one and a
half PPR league, So we'll take that and to the
bank and move on.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So a little bit of a victory lap there.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And on the Jaguars side of things, you know, no,
Brian Thomas something that we you know, we mentioned on
Friday's episode. You wondered if anybody would step up. Not really,
So there's your answer for the Jaguars in a game
where again you get out to this big lead, still
there's not much there. Travis Etn did get into the
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end zone for you did have a couple of catches.
You're probably playing him, but yeah, that's what we got
from that dandy Jaguars Texans game. And I can let
the cat out of the bag. That game beat my
points of Palooza pick. So that's that's the way it goes.
I guess sometimes you gotta find some value in those
those rough contests. But it was a battle of two
teams in the AFC South that are now hovering around
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five hundred. It is.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It was a strange game. He got a little bit
from Parker Washington, so back to back. He'll show up
later in the in the waiver wire fund. I just
want to go back to the quarterbacks real fast, and
you guys can have a laugh with this, okay. Let's
go through just top twelve scores for Week ten. Davis
Mills was first, Mac Jones was sixth, Dylan Gabriel was ninth,
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and Tyler Shuck was twelveth. Week ten of your Fantasy
football league, everybody, that's where we're all.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
We all saw that coming.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And Drake may like add a bunch of the second
year guys and we roam from there.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But it's just absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's because Flacco was on by That's why, right right, Ian?
What stood out for you in Week eleven?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
One big thing? And this has kind of been the
case all season, but it just was further accentuated this week.
Jonathan Taylor should be a legitimate MVP candidate, and I
know that we've kind of steered away from giving that
award to running backs. I don't think anyone's even come
close to it since Adrian Peterson actually ended up winning it.
But I don't know, man, Jonathan Taylor two hundred and
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forty four rushing yards and three touchdowns. He's legitimately been
one of the best players period in the NFL, so
I think he deserves a legitimate look at MVP.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He's really good. And also Daniel Jones, it's come back
a little bit more to earth. They're not putting that.
I mean, huge run for them on the third and
twenty one and Daniel Jones and still got his But
as you're trying to now play winning football and you
have more to play for, you know, Michael Pittman didn't
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have a great game, Daniel Jones coming down a little bit,
but Taylor just continues to shine.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, you got that touchdown to Pierre Surly. But what's
interesting and MVP odds, we were looking at this little
Jason Smith and I'm talking about this right because Drake
May is a co favorite with Matthew Stafford. As we
sit here exiting Week ten of the season, Jonathan Taylor
is third at five to one. He was twenty five
or thirty to one before this week, so a lot
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of money, a lot of push coming in on him.
Daniel Jones, by way of contrast, is now sixty to one.
Mm hm over because of the last two weeks, because yeah,
crept up to that ten to one, eight to one
kind of scenario to finish out the leaders up there,
Mahomes at six to one, Josh Allen still at seven
to one, Sam Darnld at nine to one.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Good for Sam, Yeah, just don't turn the football over
in the.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Mid twenties for fantasy who he is though it's in
his DNA.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Dan, it absolutely is. And it's frustrating. They're up thirty
eight to seven and you can't feel comfortable like it's
they you know, many times, I'm sorry, time for a Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Rant have at it. We should have a sounder for that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They turned the ball over three times in one forty
four to twenty two. Imagine what they would do if
they just held on to the stupid football and like
it is. It is so infuriating because it's not changing.
And Darnold again stripsack fumble. Guess what cost him in
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week one? Guess what another ricochet off someone's helmet that
goes flying into the air. The same things continue to happen.
I don't even know how to explain it that they
they lost a fumble on a snap inside their own
in yard line. It's just my goodness, he was he
was ten or twelve for one hundred and seventy eight yards.
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Are those MVP numbers? You know, like he's I'm not
in ian, Don't get me wrong, I'm not. He has
been great, but there are just some wartz. But for
him to be like that high up on the list, eh,
just crazy? Should Jackson Smith and jig Bubby higher than
Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Let's see, let's see where he is in the current.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, I mean, if that's the only guy you're throwing too.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Well, I did see a stat that he at least
has thrown touchdowns to like what eight different receivers or something.
I mean, obviously, yes, to get you down there, it's
only going to one guy, but then when you're actually
divvying up the points.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm sorry to turn this into seahawk talk.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think that it was a discussion though.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, like what we're talking about value because it obviously
translates back into our fantasy realm uh in terms of
what we're doing week to week, and to your point, Dan,
there's enough turnover worthy plays and actual turnovers to where
you're losing out and this week for for saying, I mean,
he didn't have to do a ton positively because of
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what the defense did and how things got rolling. But uh, yeah,
for fantasy purposes, I think with a forty four point game,
my quarterback's given me something.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You got nothing. JSN is one hundred to one, right.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now, Okay? That is that's and Donald was what you
see nine to one. Okay, so this is this is
gonna be. I am shocked at this numbers, but I'm
not shocked because I know this team Jackson Smith and
Jigba has eighty five targets this season? Do you guys
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want to guess? You just want me to tell you
who's second? Would you want to guess?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Should I just tell you on the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, just the number. You don't have to tell me
the name. Just who's second in targets? Like how much
targets is second place on the Sea Yeah, that's exactly
the numbers. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Wait, can I guess the player?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Then?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Second on the Seahawks and reception is it like AJ Barner.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's closed, he's twenty six, he's third. It's Cooper Cup? Really,
Cooper Cup has thirty five targets, second on the team
to Jsn's eighty five.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And so so when we're talking about Donald, who's turning
over the football a bunch? But it doesn't matter. You know.
What's more annoying to me is the narrative of you know,
you and I don't expect everybody to watch every team.
We try to watch as much football as we can.
There are things that we're going to miss, but it's
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the general narrative of man, look at what Donald's doing. Hey, Dan,
don't complain about Donald. They have sixteen giveaways as a
team this season. That's top five in the NFL. Imagine
if they just cut that in half where that's where
the other good teams are on how good that they
would be? So and they, you know, aren't really trying
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to run the ball. That was a big conversation this
past week. But that's what makes Donald so interesting is
everything is just going to JSN.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
At least you're kind of in a way, you're getting
what you're paying for though, right, I mean, yes, you
have him on a little bit of a ross friendly
contract and he's playing above that at an MVP level.
You know, go according to the odds.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You are one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Yeah, it's just an interesting way of looking at it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But isn't that crazy that to my stats of that,
you know, the odds if Donald seven to one and
JSN is one hundred to one.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, there's only about seven players between those two.
Just it's heavy money on six or seven players and
then it becomes this giant mass of everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I would say Donald deserves to be higher on the
MVP list than JSN does. But I would say that
the odds themselves shouldn't be that what's the word far apart?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, because we had a fun discussion and folks can
find the full podcast and discussion on it. And it
wasn't to say, hey, Mike your bears, but Caleb Williams
is one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
To one behind JSN. He's a hundred fifty to one.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
As we sit here at the end of week ten
with what they've done as a squad. And I mean, look,
he's got an opportunity, and I make the full argument
like if you want to be forward looking, because they've
got one of the toughest schedules remaining. So if he
does and they win and they perform, then then sure
put him in the discussion. But it's just interesting where
that divide is because it's all the usual suspects, Jonathan Taylor,
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Sam Darnell cracks that list, and then there's the giant
divide going all the way back and obviously Stafford's up
there with Drake May and whatever. But you know, we
get down to sixty to one and beyond pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's that's crazy. Ian Though to your point of Jonathan
Taylor should be getting more love. It's probably why Jackson
Smith and but should be getting more love right, Like
I mean, I don't. I don't think that Donald should
have shorter odds than JSN considering what has I mean,
if all of these passes are going to Jackson Smith
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and Jigba, then who's really doing the work right? And
and for the numbers that he's putting up it also,
who else are you going to? Who are you else?
Are you gonna play on Seattle's defense in fantasy right
or offense? No, you're right, So I told you to
bench Kenneth Walker weeks ago. They have no idea what
to do with the goal on except just give it
to zex Sharbonay. So there's gonna be no plans for
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Kenneth Walker to score unless he breaks off a run.
So that's just a funky all right. I'll move away
from Seahawks talk. We'll move away from it. Amari de Marcado,
though at least approved his worth after his big game
on Monday night to uh to bounce back with a
little for the Cardinals in that contest. Jacoby Brissett just
having that rough first half for Arizona was a was
(25:56):
a tough one. So that's an interesting interest thing happenings
in the Pacific Northwest. How about this guy's as well.
Forty four to twenty two was the score of two
of the three late games. It's only happened four times
in NFL history. The second time it happened was earlier
this year when the Cowboys beat the Commanders. So when
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we're sitting there wondering if their score agami for forty
four to twenty two, you had two games that were
forty four to twenty two. The Lions beat the Commanders
and the Seahawks meet the Cardinals by that score.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So four times in history, three times this year.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yes, correct, that's insane. That's the two point conversion for you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Welcome to the National Football League twenty twenty five. Yeah,
just going up and down the list, you know, just
to put the you know from my punctuation mark on it.
Just this was probably the hardest week, like in terms
of what predictions, and I got a couple of things right.
The running back position in the top played out to form.
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But like in terms of game predictions, everything was wild,
wild ride rightf Miami chaos. Now h Chan having a
couple of big explosive runs, a whole other thing but
now all of a sudden buffalo. Not that I was
trusting a lot of guys, but I'm feeling a lot
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more nervous about them as a squad, right bridging that
fantasy reality gap. But I think we got that with
the number of teams were something like we were talking
about with the Packers and Eagles to start things. I
just don't know, and Week ten left me a little
more nervous about my lineup setting going forward.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't know if this is a very amateur review
of how I look at the NFL, but there's in
picking games, there's always a week where I just kind
of bottom out because the NFL has changed. Usually I'll
just go a lot of underdogs because we don't know
who's good early on. At some point we figure out
who's good and who isn't. I thought that there were
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so many lines that were telling us things this week,
and it's just a to you or me or whoever
to listen, like the Rams being the favorite against the
forty nine ers, the Ravens being the favorite against Minnesota
Ian's Jets. I don't know what the ultimate line ended
up being at the end of the day. I think
it was two was it in so New York minus two.
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In our little picks thing that we do, it was
Jets minus two and a half. There were so many
things that were that were telling us certain things. Granted
they weren't telling us the Buffalo situation or the Carolina situation,
but there were other things that they were telling us.
And I'm like, really, Baltimore four and a half, you know, like,
all right, let's roll with it. The Rams. I thought
the forty nine ers had a decent shot. They didn't.
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They didn't on Sunday for all good the Rams played.
So that's where I thought, like Week ten was interesting
because yeah, it threw me some curveballs. I didn't. I
didn't have a great week in Week ten.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, and then the Rams.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, you know the way that game played out,
the forty two twenty six you still got your fantasy points.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah he did, right, Like I was playing in.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
A league against someone who had kittle and for the
longest time like i'p good, it's the other tight end
that ain't him. And then all of a sudden you
look at the final final box score and well, there
he is with his massive, massive performance.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
He finishes with nine eighty four and one, as they're
just in desperation, clean up, comeback mode the entire way.
Christian McCaffrey with his thirty yards rushing. Fortunately you got
eight catches for sixty six yards to save you once again.
But that Rams team is a machine right now, fellas.
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I mean, that is a whole other thing going on there.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Super Bowl contenders for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I think I'm the best team in the league
right now.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I would be.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, They're the Seahawks coming to town on Sunday, so
that'll be a that'll be a fun one. But that
is not the Marquee late game. It's Chiefs Broncos on CBS.
Oh boy, that is the Marquee late game. Yes, the
four or five Eastern time kick is the Seahawks and
Rams in La.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Plus side Seattle in the Rams forty eight and a
half for an over under.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Baby. Let's all right, uh Week eleven, Yeah, it'll be
here before we know it. All right, We're gonna take
our time out, come back with our report cards for
how we did in week ten, plus Mike Scott some
waiver wire picks. Also in our midweek episode, there was
big news in the NFL on Monday as Brian Dable
was fired by the New York Giants. We'll tell you
some of the ramifications of that, plus Joe Burrow back practicing,
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and some other takeaways as we look into week eleven.
That's coming up in our next episode. But next Waiver
Wire and report cards here on, I want your flex
all right, it's report card time. How do we do
in week ten? He's Mike Carmen, that's Ian Roddy, our
executive producer. I'm Dan Byer. Mike. We talked about how
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tough it was to pick games in week ten? How
do we do fantasy wise on your ledger?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Pretty good?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
On the running back side of things, we got our
ah Chen and Tay I mean, Taylor's just you know
in charpye at this point, but sometimes you just take
the chalk with Gibbs. But McCaffrey okay, ish because of
the receiving yards, but certainly not a top five performance
from him and Bjeon Robinson. Anybody anybody want to want
a little bit of Tyler all year for your love?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
No, that was terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Dark Caleb and May made me look smart. Josh Allen,
Jalen Hurts and Justin Herbert did not wide receiver JSN
Drake London was one of our top five and Roman
dooons they finished as a top ten, as did Lad McConkey,
So we'll take some w's there.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
In the hot.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Plays, Golf and Stafford shown big, as did Rico and
our guy Jalen Wattle finished as the number eleven receiver
for the week, so we're gonna take a W there.
Kyle Manung guy left let me down and left me flat,
even though the Bears got that win more on the
midweek episode with all of that cold soars Saquon, I
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guess I take a W there, even though I was
hoped being for better just from a I want more
fantasy options for people and stars to shine.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
But hey, chaos rules too.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We got Jordan Love right because he was what's that
word not good? Wrong on Chris Alave. He finished as
a top ten right on Addison, so we'll take a
W there. Davis Mills was a ninja. I think I'm
gonna say that fourteen times because that worked out pretty
well for me.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Otherwise, we didn't get.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Much from Marvin Harrison Junior, and then we had a
bunch of also rans. When you look at the Judkins
Singletary's of the world. So some wins, some losses.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
MATC.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Jones was a win as well, so we'll run with that.
Jalen Warren, like all of the Pittsburgh Steelers, go enjoy
Disneyland or something that's more entertainment than you gave America
on Sunday Night it was.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I will say this, you could have got Devin Singletary
to really cash in if Brian Dable would just go
for it on fourth down. I know they tried a
couple of times in the ultimate loss to your Chicago Bears,
but yeah, if you could have done that, that would
have helped the Ninja play, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
But they go and on that fourth down, right, it's
the you even had the too many men on the
field penalty, it would have moved it even that much closer.
You don't think you can get a half a yard
or to that point your defense had played pretty well.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I know.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
It's one of like nine thousand things on the reasons
why Brian.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Dable is no longer the Giants coach.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But as a Bears fan, great, you want to be
a dope and take a field goal, have at it.
But you have a ten place seventy nine and a
half yard drive and you settle for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I know I at the time, honestly, and I hate
to admit this, but I'm like, they gotta kick it right,
like you gotta go up two scores back, I know,
I get look back now, I'm like, hey, he should
have gone for it, especially after you know, the couple
of drives the Bears head then after that to ultimately
win the game. But tough times in Giants Land. Oh yeah, now,
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the the the Mike Kafka Northwestern grad era can begin.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
As I've got my Northwestern jacket on tonight. Mike Kafka,
the pride of Saint Rita High School in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think he's got a chance to keep the job. Honestly,
I do too.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He was plus six fifty in the odds in a
couple of spots.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah yeah, we'll get more on that. Ian. How'd your
report card look for Week ten?
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Yeah? Not bad? This week. Let's start with the worst
and then work our way up. So the worst was
the Carolina Panthers. Of the ones that I gave you,
they got your four Fantasy points on the week. So
not not awful. Allowed seventeen points to the Saints and
Tyler Shuck, but they salvaged it by recovering a fumble
and sacking him twice. So not bad there. And the
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next was the Baltimore Ravens got you six Fantasy points.
They allowed nineteen points to JJ McCarthy and the Vikings
or should I call him nine saw that as ulter
ego deal. They picked him off twice, recovered to fumble,
and sacked him but by far the least amount of
sacks JJ McCarthy has taken as a starter yet, so
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a little underwhelmed there. I expected more from the Ravens,
but that's okay. Next was the Jacksonville Jaguars eight Fantasy
points for you. They allowed thirty fantasy points or they
allowed thirty points excuse me, to the Texans and Davis Mills,
but they did get an interception of fumble, recovery and
two sacks. And then the best play of the week,
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by far of the ones I gave you was my
New York Jets. They twenty fantasy points they got you,
which was so absurd, and you guys know what it
came from. It was the kick return touchdown followed by
the punt return touchdown. They also got six sacks on
the day too, Thank you Will McDonald getting four on
his own. But yeah, the Jets twenty twenty fantasy points
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was huge for you. So if you went ahead and
started them, congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
If only you know DeMarcus Lawrence hadn't scored twice for Seattle,
more people would be talking about that that crazy day
for the Jets in addition to getting to win. How
about this, Jerry Judy found the end zone. I'm just
gonna give a quick He was the guy that I
was so so sure that was such a great value pick.
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The multiple shares player a couple of years ago was
Brandon Cooks. He failed me. Jerry Judy in the Browns
filled me miserably. This year, I don't have Jerry Judy
on any of my teams anymore, and I had him
on like three of my teams to start the year.
But he finally got into the end zone on Sunday.
Crazy well. Kudos to the Jets, and kudos for the
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suggestion on taking the Jets as the streaming defense. I
gave you a points of palooza of Buccaneers and Patriot
and while there were points in that game ended up
being twenty twenty three in Trevon Henderson, the big game,
Mecca BUCA gets in the end zone. Ts Johnson gets
in a couple of times for Tampa. Didn't come close
to what we had in the late window and some
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of those other games so didn't reach the points of
Poloo's level. I did tell you earlier in the week
to take Broncos and Survivor over the Raiders on Thursday night,
but I gave you a bonus pick, and that bonus
pick from the Sunday games failed you. Panthers lost to
the Saints, So a lot of people, guys, about twenty
five percent of the pool that was remaining in the
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contest that I'm in, had the Panthers as their pick,
and the Saints ended up ruining the day. The other
part the Bills and their loss to the Dolphins eliminated
at about ten percent of the pool that I'm still in.
So yeah, so those upsets, and Mikey, honestly, your Bears
were a popular pick as well against the Giants, and
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they saved the day to keep to keep some lives.
A lot live about succeed p Yeah, about eight percent
of the the pool ended up picking the Bears and survivor,
but the Panthers because value pick. You know, they're hovering
around five hundred. I mentioned the travel of the Saints
that I thought would catch up, but it was more
of I think the Panthers flying high from their win
against the Packers and they had an absolute let down
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on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
That's still a five hundred team.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know. Bryce Young has eclipsed two hundred passing yards
once this year.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't remember a pass from that game that he
like threw downfield.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
No, he had one hundred and twenty four yards.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, it's just unbelievable. Dump dump off, dump off, dump off.
And the Panthers even had a leon let situation go
their way where the Saints blocked the field goal. It
was one of the truest ball don't lie results I've
seen in the NFL in a while. So the Saints
blocked the Panthers field goal. The deflection ended up. You know, guys,
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sometimes if you block one, it goes way behind the
kicker and hold her and you could pick it up
and run it back for a touchdown. Other times it
just goes flying into the end zone because someone got
a hand on it. This one was deflected and then
landed right across the line of scrimmage hit a Saints
player in the helmet, may have been Cam Jordan, and
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the Panthers recovered and because it touched the Saints past
the line of scrimmage, the Panthers got the ball first
and ten they ended up throwing and it was a
fumbler and interception soon after that. But yeah, it was crazy,
but it's honestly a rule that should probably change. But
remember the old Leon Lett play of the uh you know,
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going to recover the football after it was blocked and
then he touched it and didn't recover it and the
Dolphins didn't. They got the football, but that was the
rule on That was the rule that was in play
on Sunday. The Panthers couldn't cash in though, because of
that fumble having a.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Holder on a punt, I guess is how you would
equate it. Yeah, you know, so that the ball gets
beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's live.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, it's crazy because it just was like, you know,
rarely do you see a ball deflected and only go
like two or three yards. So it literally landed like
in a scrum of players that just happened to be
on the same side, so there was really no way
to like avoid that scenario. I guess you just have
to be aware that you have to jump on the football.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Then I just love those ball don't lie moments in
football like that. Yes, Clowney at South Carolina when he
sat that guy in his helmet flew off at right
after they the refs overturned a fourth down conversion.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I don't know, I'm done. Yeah, I love them as
well because you're like, all right, there's justice in the world.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yes, there is the football gods.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yes, you have their way, all right, Mike. Let's look
ahead to Week eleven waiver Wire. Who are some names
we need to pick up? With the Colts and the
aforementioned Saints on by just two teams on buying week.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Along no Tyler Shuck this week Top twelve quarterback shuts.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
How about number nine going up against the Chicago Bearris.
They are the third most generous to opposing quarterbacks. He's
available in about half the League's pains me to say
that because it's been a pretty ugly watch, just like
the Thursday and Monday games and that Sunday Night football game.
I know, don't know how much you want to sell that.
(41:32):
When al Michaels is starting to go back into his vault,
I think they use the almanac bit like nine times,
Like let's do that again, Kirk, how's your dog?
Speaker 6 (41:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Jj McCarthy fifty six per Aaron Rodgers against Cincinnati. Just opportunity,
you know what I mean. It's it's just a bad,
bad kind of thing. You're looking at Joe Flacco going
against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
He's half owned.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
We'll talk more about the Joe Burrow the rise in
the midweek episode to a tongue of Blago went against
Washington twenty percent, So you got that opportunity there.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
The bye week kills this opportunity.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
But we've seen Alec Pierce become more and more of
a threat, averaging about twenty two yards per catch for Indianapolis.
He's available about sixty percent of the leagues, but this
is one because of the bye you might be able
to get him at a bargain in your free agent
acquisition budget because people can't plug him right in the
aforementioned Jerry Judy why not fifty seven percent owned? Am
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I fully out full on endorsing it, but no, But
we're looking for opportunists here and going up against the
Baltimore defense which has gotten better but still can be
had downfield. Troy Franklin is the guy for Denver. As
much as we don't love the passing game right now,
a lot of questions. He's at least being targeted Tes
Johnson going up against Buffalo. He's thirty three percent owned
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Parker Washington in the last two games eleven catches for
one hundred and twenty three yards and a TD, so
opportunity there. De Marcado and Algier are the other two
guys from the running back position that we want to
take a look at, and we mentioned Burrow.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
He's available about forty percent of leagues.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
If you've got an extra roster spot and you want
to stash it that somehow, that foot and everything comes
together for the stretch run and you want to be
plucky or just play a little bit of defense, may
maybe you go and do the preemptive ad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I am I am really curious to see on what
the Cardinals end up doing with their backfield, because I
do think that De Marcado has shown his value to
the squad. Trey Benson obviously was a guy that when
James Connor got hurt, we thought was going to fill in,
and then Benson gets hurt, and then we hear the
elevation of Bam Knight. But I think that De Marcado
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has done enough to keep his gig. And now you
got San Francisco coming to town. And I don't know
how much the Cardinals have to play for, but they
should be motivated for losing earlier this year in San
Francisco in a game they probably should have won. And
forty nine ers come in still kind of banged up
in Brock party situation in the air, and maybe Ricky
Piersoll is coming back. But yeah, funky times with San
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Francisco for sure. That's That's the other NFC West battle
on Sunday, so that anymore waiver wire, Are we good? No?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I think we ran the gamut on there.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
We got a little deeper in the needs talking about
broadcast crews and bits to kill time.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So well get ready because again it's Jets Patriots on Thursday,
so you may have more time to fill. I'll do
anything just so we don't have two ten to seven games.
That's that's all.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Look for the Thursday games.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I think they can at least kill time by having
an added live shopping feature. Since it is an Amazon feature.
There's al selling me a blender. Ice Cream makers are
a big rage this year, all the retailers. Maybe he
can make some soft serve and give you a recipe
or two.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Man, those are those are the Those are the let's
make it once sort of deals.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And then it sits in the corner.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, exactly, take spot Yeah, in your garage, your basement
or wherever.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Because it took too long to clean the damn thing.
You did it once.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
You also need like eighty ingredients and time, so like,
screw this, We're not gonna do it anymore. And the
ice cream tastes like crap. Let's just go buy some
for six bucks down the street. That's a lot easier,
all right, So that's gonna do it for I want
your flags.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I'm not wrong, No, I mean I haven't tried it,
but it sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah. When you spend three hours making homemade ice cream
and it doesn't even come close to what you can
get out of a small carton down at your local
grocer grocer, it's a yeah, best to not make your
own homemade ice cream. I'd be pissed if I came
over to Ian or your place, You're like, Dan, sit
down homemade ice cream, Like I'll just go get some
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Ben and Jerry's or Hagadas. Don't worry about it, guys.
Oh man man, Yeah, before.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Bread, serve it.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
It would be like iteration to forty, like it would
have had to be good. I would eat the crap
stuff myself, just on principle that I spent the time
in the effort. But like anything that I show up
at work with, like I've vetted it so like I've
at least decided it rose to my standards, and maybe
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I just have low standards.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
If you said, hey, I got a bunch, I got
a bunch of venison, I got a dehydrator, I made
some jerky, have it at it, I'd be like, cool,
let's do it. Let's dig in. Just not ice cream.
Probably not gonna happen. Okay, too confusing the jerky. Yeah, absolutely,
all right, a.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Little more straightforward process. I get you.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's gonna do it for us, and I want your flex.
We'll be back with another midweek episode and then at
the end of the week getting a set four. Week eleven,
it's gonna be playoff time. Yeah, some playoffs starting in
week fifteen. Others may be in week sixteen. But we
are heading in the stretch run, so hopefully we can
give you the advice that you need. So for my Carmen,
Andy and Roddie, I'm Dan Byer. We will talk to
you next time here and I want here flex
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Week ten's a rap with ten points scored by the winner.
Just like we started to hit Mike up at Swollen Dome.
You can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox. You
can find Ian at Dean Roddy Underscore. Yeah, Mike, let's
start from Lambeau where it ended in Lambeau, because Week
ten not tens across the board.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
When we're talking about fantasy football, abject failure in many spots,
curious coaching decisions, temperatures down, and the scoring goes right
with it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I mean, the book ends for Week ten give us
two ten to seven games that kind of set offense
back for long periods of time. I don't know that
I'll ever recover, because then we start week eleven guys
with the Jets and the Patriots, So I mean that's
where we're headed in the next frontier. But on Monday night,
I mean, you had two drives that consume the entire
(01:25):
first quarter. It's like, all right, the Eagles, it's a long,
protracted drive, You've got penalties, you've got chass, and then
you get a fumble. It's like, what the hell all
of that for nothing, not even a field goal try
from Elliott that'll come in later. But for Jalen Hurts,
he had the one possession. They had two explosive plays
on the touchdown drive, so you get DeVante Smith, he
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continues in your good graces, four for sixty nine and
a score like it's not world beating, but it's at
least a seventeen point day gets you across the finish line.
Saquon Barkley goes over one hundred total yards, but certainly
not the explosives. Look, you know you're going up against
the Packers d They were top five against opposing runners
coming in, But based on what we saw against the
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Giants and a bye week, you think you're gonna get better. Well,
Lane Johnson leaves for a chunk of the game with
an ankle injury eventually comes back, so maybe that affects
some of your running, but you don't get much there.
Hurts doesn't give you much in the run game, just
five attempts for twenty seven yards, so no love. And
then the rest of the receiving corps. I guess you'll
(02:30):
take your eight point three from Dallas Goddard. Aj Brown
was targeted seven times, which gave you a whole lot
of enoughing. Yeah, including that last fade route that hit
Valentine square on the back. I'm half thinking that Jalen
Hurs was looking for the interception so that they could
play defense from the three and maybe force a defensive
(02:52):
touchdown in the final man, I have no idea what
that was. That was like playing dodgeball. And then Josh
Jacobs gives you the rushing touch down, So you finished
with twenty one seventy four and he had five catches.
So for the PPR league out there, you got eight
point three points out of the receiving total. So he
ends up with a pretty nice night. But he's the
only one.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I have a tough time moving off of the Eagles
because I look at their schedule. Mike, Yeah, you know,
you got a game against the Cowboys coming up the
weekend prior to Thanksgiving, You've got matchups with the Raiders
coming up, you have the Commanders and what would be
playoff time. Those are nice, juicy matchups. I just have
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no idea on who I can trust right now with Philadelphia,
Like I'm gonna start saguon Barkley because i have to.
I'm probably gonna start aj Brown because I have to.
But even with those matchups, I don't feel good playing
those guys because of just the inconsistencies all across the board.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, in Barkley, you're at least getting the touch and opportunities.
So twenty five touches against the Packers, the three catches
for forty one yards saves you a bit. So you
end up with a thirteen point day. Not world beating,
but when we're talking about where we are in half
PPR leagues, that got you to nearly, you know, a
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top fifteen ish kind of borderline play there with Hurts.
He's averaging two hundred and eight yards a game, so
passing wise, you're hoping, you know, for pay dirt in
the red zone, and really that's only been Devonte Smith,
Like that's the only guy I think that you can
trust weekend week out. Brown back end too, probably stays
(04:33):
in your lineup because you're you're fearful of missing the
explosive game. But man, it's it's tough. You mentioned those
juicy matchups on TAP and they're like, all right, I
got to push in. But would you be surprised if
they if you rolled snake eyes in those? Now?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Not at all? And that's yeah, yeah, And that's the issue.
Like a perfect example in our standard league, which is
not PPR, there's a guy who was playing this week
and he, you know, like twenty five points, So basically
they're saying one hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns.
That's not out of the realm with possibility. If we're
talking about twenty twenty four with Saquon Barkley and now
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like in the third quarter, like he's come close, Like
there's they're not going to score two touchdowns in this game,
let alone have both of them be by Saquon Barkley.
So it was kind of over with And we all
know the feeling as well when you have a good
fantasy team and you're going in on on and the
(05:31):
Eagles guys were like that, like it was almost like
a bonus to have Devonte Smith because maybe it was
your WR two or your your flexplay or WR three.
You're like, well, I got Davonte Smith to me drop,
you know, get one hundred and ten yards in a
score on you. I got aj Brown's my WR two.
I can't wait. None of those feels are back, even
with Barkley as a top guy. As you said, his
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stat line gets him in top fifteen, but when you
have him in your lineup, you're thinking top three performance
each week, and it's just so inconsistent.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean to this point, we've got one one
hundred yard game on the books in terms of his
rushing total, right against the Giants a couple of weeks ago.
So it was like, all right, did they meet her
out his touches because he didn't have a lot of
big carry games either, right, So script wise, they haven't
had Like the offense is sputtered. Let's just call it
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what it is, right, it's been sporadic, and you've lived
on that. There's still seven and two, which is really
the frightening thing of it all. Showing NFL twenty twenty
five that this has been able to pass through. But
for Barkley, we're not seeing the explosive runs. We're not
seeing the big finish. I mean is long on Monday
night was fifteen and that felt like it was a
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giant breakthrough, right, Like that's the scary thing of where
they're at. And then when you look at the backup thing,
if you were looking at the handcuff side, you're seeing
Shipley as equal to Tank Bigsby in terms of touchcount.
So even if you were in the plus matchup of
all right, desperation, I've got injured guys or got whatever.
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I can't trust either of those guys either, so you know,
in terms of the hail Mary throw. But like that's
a hard part because it was like, for we're talking
the investment, even if we thought Saquon would take a
step back off the two thousand clearly based on the
huge touch count of a year ago, this is like
falling off a cliff.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's such a it's such a mystery, and I think
it's probably because their offensive line just isn't as dominant
as it as it was. And I called Saquon Barkley inconsistent,
I should maybe call them consistent because the numbers just
haven't peaked, right, that's just right. That may be the
accurate portion of it, the Green Bay side of things. Oof. Yeah, Like,
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I mean, they missed Tucker Craft like it was. It
was plainly obvious. And now you wonder for a team
that many thought coming out of the gates like they
did and beating the Lions and then beating the Commanders
a few days later, two weeks in the hype with
Micah Parsons, Now you have a team that honestly is
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sitting there fighting for a playoff berth in the NFC.
They're in right now, they're nicely in, but if you
continue to performances like that together, it may not stay
that way.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I talked to folks in the Vegas Land ahead of
Week ten. The Bears at eight to one look suddenly
juicy based on JJ McCarthy and what we've seen from
these Packers when we look at for fantasy purposes. Right now,
Jordan Love ranks fourteenth for the year, and with the
loss of Tucker Craft, even with Christian Watson back, and
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obviously Golden wasn't available, not that he's been a big
factor for them. Like we're back to that same graphic
of here's a bunch of guys.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
All right, you got Josh.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Jacobs is the only guy that you trust in your
lineup at this point? Love, I guess shows up. I
think matchup dependent going forward as a back end, you
know QB ten through twelve. But am I trusting him
to put up a big stat line. No, it's gonna
be Josh Jacobs taking care of business at the goal line,
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short yardage situations, red zone himself.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Like.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
So, those streaks and all those things are fun, but
from the passing game, there's not a single guy I
would trust in a lineup right now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, I don't at all. I don't. I don't have
a lot of shares of Green Bay players. So for
my personal it's not that big of a deal. But
when you're looking at how they operate and really how
good Tuckercraft was and how it meant to other people
they really really missed him on Monday night, it was
it was pretty glaring. I also thought it was interesting Mikey,
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and you know you mentioned the Thursday night game was
I didn't see as much complaining about this game as
we did about the Broncos Raiders game, which shocked aw,
this game is just atrocious, right.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And I know mutation wise, yeah, there's a little more
on the the defenses for both Philly and Green Bay.
Maybe because you could keep selling the hell out of
Micah Parsons. He had five pressures, O get great. That
doesn't sell. That doesn't sell a football game.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
People want points, correct.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And I mean go back to Thursday. I mean the
hatred of the Raiders, I think is what pushed that through.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That could be as that could be. And sometimes Sean
Payton does some crazy stuff, but it's not like Nick
Sirianni and Matt Lafleur going unquestioned with their with their performances.
But that face, I'll tell you what. As well, the
game on Sunday Night of Chargers Steelers. You want to
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talk about our three primetime games that the NFL gave
us sans a performance by the Chargers. I mean Pittsburgh
just gave again, just left nothing out there for anybody
to desire anything about what the Steelers have.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yees to Warren to.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Mess with Aaron Rodgers and crew.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Well, he had the one throw that he could have
made that maybe it changes the game, right, ten ten
thirty or whatever it was, the first where he missed
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That was their threat, their play, and he knew it,
like the reaction shot right there. They finally broke one
that was going to be a big play and get
DK Metcalf into a game and it fell harmlessly incomplete.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
That was their one shot.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He also missed one shorter but to gainwell. Yeah, and
they were overshot gainwell and feeling pressure and that's just yeah,
just it not great football for us in primetime, but
the the other games may have saved us. Heck Ian's
Jets got to win. I mean, there's zeroes go there
was that.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
He said he wanted it, so.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, came at the cost of losing Garrett Wilson
now for three to four weeks. But is a win
is a win? Congratulations Ian, Well.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
We'll take the win, you know, show that they still
have some fight left in them and now Garrett's Garrett's hurt,
so we can take some losses help us in the
whether it be Fernando Mendoza or Tye Simpson sweep steaks.
But yeah, that's uh, it's tough to knock. I'm not
going to have them for the foreseeable future. But you know,
at least there's a glass half full point of view.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ian. I'll have more on his Jets coming up later
in the program. We've got our report cards for how
we did in week ten, plus Michael f some waiver
wire action for you looking ahead to week eleven, which
does feature those Jets taking on those Patriots. As Mike mentioned,
Thursday Night Football at its absolute finest hym, Mike got
at Swollendob. You can find me at Dan Byer on
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Fox and get Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. When we
come back, we'll take a look more at what stood
out from Week ten of your fantasy football season. That's
next here and I want your flex welcome back. I
want your flex. There was some carnage in week ten,
there was also some good. We dive into that. Mike Carmen,
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what stood up from to you for Week ten of
the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, some big point totals didn't necessarily translate to the
fantasy players you thought it would. Well, no, I mean
if you saw some of these forty point barrage is like, wait,
there's multiple defensive scores from Seattle, like good good, wait,
same guy? No, I mean, come on, you know, you've
got a Jalen Naylor in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Things you didn't think you'd see.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Right, there's Jefferson, there's Addison, there's Hockinson, there's Naylor at the.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Top of your list. We talked about it a little.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Bit, you know, Jamison Williams becoming that guy for Detroit
for a week. You know, not that you didn't get
big numbers from others don't, but you know guys that
kind of pop through that made you raise an eyebrow.
You know, we were talking a little bit off air,
you know, like when you talk about Trey Van Henderson
finally gets his shot, right, No, Ramandre Stevenson, but it's
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the all right, how are they gonna screw us? I
think was a lot of fantasy owners like because it's
clear they didn't want him as that guy. But for
this week they did more of Vidal for the Chargers
comes through with another top ten. The running back position
I think played more true than most of the others
as we kind of look at it as you go
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down the line. But just some of these monster performances
that just really were head scratch at Davis Mills. I
mean I had him as a ninja, but to have
the game that he ended and to finish it in
such dramatic fashion. You finished with nearly thirty points.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's in all in the basically the fourth quarter quarter,
right with the come back. Yeah, yeah, that was a
funky one with Jacksonville to stay, say the least. And
it does feel like Woody Marx I mocked the Texans
backfield previously, but Woody marks with a respectable showing at
least with the Texans in that contest, maybe doing something
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that we thought was going to happen at some point,
and that is wrestling the the main gigaway from Nick Chubb.
But it seemed more Woody Marks, at least for the
Texans in that in that contest. Maybe it was game
game plan as well, but still, you know, we knew
the limitations of Chubb.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I gave you a fifteen point one and a
half PPR league, So we'll take that and to the
bank and move on.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So a little bit of a victory lap there.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And on the Jaguars side of things, you know, no,
Brian Thomas something that we you know, we mentioned on
Friday's episode. You wondered if anybody would step up. Not really,
So there's your answer for the Jaguars in a game
where again you get out to this big lead, still
there's not much there. Travis Etn did get into the
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end zone for you did have a couple of catches.
You're probably playing him, but yeah, that's what we got
from that dandy Jaguars Texans game. And I can let
the cat out of the bag. That game beat my
points of Palooza pick. So that's that's the way it goes.
I guess sometimes you gotta find some value in those
those rough contests. But it was a battle of two
teams in the AFC South that are now hovering around
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five hundred. It is.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It was a strange game. He got a little bit
from Parker Washington, so back to back. He'll show up
later in the in the waiver wire fund. I just
want to go back to the quarterbacks real fast, and
you guys can have a laugh with this, okay. Let's
go through just top twelve scores for Week ten. Davis
Mills was first, Mac Jones was sixth, Dylan Gabriel was ninth,
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and Tyler Shuck was twelveth. Week ten of your Fantasy
football league, everybody, that's where we're all.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
We all saw that coming.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And Drake may like add a bunch of the second
year guys and we roam from there.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But it's just absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's because Flacco was on by That's why, right right, Ian?
What stood out for you in Week eleven?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
One big thing? And this has kind of been the
case all season, but it just was further accentuated this week.
Jonathan Taylor should be a legitimate MVP candidate, and I
know that we've kind of steered away from giving that
award to running backs. I don't think anyone's even come
close to it since Adrian Peterson actually ended up winning it.
But I don't know, man, Jonathan Taylor two hundred and
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forty four rushing yards and three touchdowns. He's legitimately been
one of the best players period in the NFL, so
I think he deserves a legitimate look at MVP.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He's really good. And also Daniel Jones, it's come back
a little bit more to earth. They're not putting that.
I mean, huge run for them on the third and
twenty one and Daniel Jones and still got his But
as you're trying to now play winning football and you
have more to play for, you know, Michael Pittman didn't
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have a great game, Daniel Jones coming down a little bit,
but Taylor just continues to shine.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, you got that touchdown to Pierre Surly. But what's
interesting and MVP odds, we were looking at this little
Jason Smith and I'm talking about this right because Drake
May is a co favorite with Matthew Stafford. As we
sit here exiting Week ten of the season, Jonathan Taylor
is third at five to one. He was twenty five
or thirty to one before this week, so a lot
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of money, a lot of push coming in on him.
Daniel Jones, by way of contrast, is now sixty to one.
Mm hm over because of the last two weeks, because yeah,
crept up to that ten to one, eight to one
kind of scenario to finish out the leaders up there,
Mahomes at six to one, Josh Allen still at seven
to one, Sam Darnld at nine to one.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Good for Sam, Yeah, just don't turn the football over
in the.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Mid twenties for fantasy who he is though it's in
his DNA.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Dan, it absolutely is. And it's frustrating. They're up thirty
eight to seven and you can't feel comfortable like it's
they you know, many times, I'm sorry, time for a Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Rant have at it. We should have a sounder for that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They turned the ball over three times in one forty
four to twenty two. Imagine what they would do if
they just held on to the stupid football and like
it is. It is so infuriating because it's not changing.
And Darnold again stripsack fumble. Guess what cost him in
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week one? Guess what another ricochet off someone's helmet that
goes flying into the air. The same things continue to happen.
I don't even know how to explain it that they
they lost a fumble on a snap inside their own
in yard line. It's just my goodness, he was he
was ten or twelve for one hundred and seventy eight yards.
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Are those MVP numbers? You know, like he's I'm not
in ian, Don't get me wrong, I'm not. He has
been great, but there are just some wartz. But for
him to be like that high up on the list, eh,
just crazy? Should Jackson Smith and jig Bubby higher than
Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Let's see, let's see where he is in the current.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, I mean, if that's the only guy you're throwing too.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Well, I did see a stat that he at least
has thrown touchdowns to like what eight different receivers or something.
I mean, obviously, yes, to get you down there, it's
only going to one guy, but then when you're actually
divvying up the points.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm sorry to turn this into seahawk talk.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think that it was a discussion though.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, like what we're talking about value because it obviously
translates back into our fantasy realm uh in terms of
what we're doing week to week, and to your point, Dan,
there's enough turnover worthy plays and actual turnovers to where
you're losing out and this week for for saying, I mean,
he didn't have to do a ton positively because of
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what the defense did and how things got rolling. But uh, yeah,
for fantasy purposes, I think with a forty four point game,
my quarterback's given me something.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You got nothing. JSN is one hundred to one, right.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now, Okay? That is that's and Donald was what you
see nine to one. Okay, so this is this is
gonna be. I am shocked at this numbers, but I'm
not shocked because I know this team Jackson Smith and
Jigba has eighty five targets this season? Do you guys
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want to guess? You just want me to tell you
who's second? Would you want to guess?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Should I just tell you on the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, just the number. You don't have to tell me
the name. Just who's second in targets? Like how much
targets is second place on the Sea Yeah, that's exactly
the numbers. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Wait, can I guess the player?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Then?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Second on the Seahawks and reception is it like AJ Barner.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's closed, he's twenty six, he's third. It's Cooper Cup? Really,
Cooper Cup has thirty five targets, second on the team
to Jsn's eighty five.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And so so when we're talking about Donald, who's turning
over the football a bunch? But it doesn't matter. You know.
What's more annoying to me is the narrative of you know,
you and I don't expect everybody to watch every team.
We try to watch as much football as we can.
There are things that we're going to miss, but it's
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the general narrative of man, look at what Donald's doing. Hey, Dan,
don't complain about Donald. They have sixteen giveaways as a
team this season. That's top five in the NFL. Imagine
if they just cut that in half where that's where
the other good teams are on how good that they
would be? So and they, you know, aren't really trying
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to run the ball. That was a big conversation this
past week. But that's what makes Donald so interesting is
everything is just going to JSN.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
At least you're kind of in a way, you're getting
what you're paying for though, right, I mean, yes, you
have him on a little bit of a ross friendly
contract and he's playing above that at an MVP level.
You know, go according to the odds.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You are one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Yeah, it's just an interesting way of looking at it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But isn't that crazy that to my stats of that,
you know, the odds if Donald seven to one and
JSN is one hundred to one.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, there's only about seven players between those two.
Just it's heavy money on six or seven players and
then it becomes this giant mass of everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I would say Donald deserves to be higher on the
MVP list than JSN does. But I would say that
the odds themselves shouldn't be that what's the word far apart?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, because we had a fun discussion and folks can
find the full podcast and discussion on it. And it
wasn't to say, hey, Mike your bears, but Caleb Williams
is one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
To one behind JSN. He's a hundred fifty to one.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
As we sit here at the end of week ten
with what they've done as a squad. And I mean, look,
he's got an opportunity, and I make the full argument
like if you want to be forward looking, because they've
got one of the toughest schedules remaining. So if he
does and they win and they perform, then then sure
put him in the discussion. But it's just interesting where
that divide is because it's all the usual suspects, Jonathan Taylor,
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Sam Darnell cracks that list, and then there's the giant
divide going all the way back and obviously Stafford's up
there with Drake May and whatever. But you know, we
get down to sixty to one and beyond pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's that's crazy. Ian Though to your point of Jonathan
Taylor should be getting more love. It's probably why Jackson
Smith and but should be getting more love right, Like
I mean, I don't. I don't think that Donald should
have shorter odds than JSN considering what has I mean,
if all of these passes are going to Jackson Smith
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and Jigba, then who's really doing the work right? And
and for the numbers that he's putting up it also,
who else are you going to? Who are you else?
Are you gonna play on Seattle's defense in fantasy right
or offense? No, you're right, So I told you to
bench Kenneth Walker weeks ago. They have no idea what
to do with the goal on except just give it
to zex Sharbonay. So there's gonna be no plans for
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Kenneth Walker to score unless he breaks off a run.
So that's just a funky all right. I'll move away
from Seahawks talk. We'll move away from it. Amari de Marcado,
though at least approved his worth after his big game
on Monday night to uh to bounce back with a
little for the Cardinals in that contest. Jacoby Brissett just
having that rough first half for Arizona was a was
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a tough one. So that's an interesting interest thing happenings
in the Pacific Northwest. How about this guy's as well.
Forty four to twenty two was the score of two
of the three late games. It's only happened four times
in NFL history. The second time it happened was earlier
this year when the Cowboys beat the Commanders. So when
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we're sitting there wondering if their score agami for forty
four to twenty two, you had two games that were
forty four to twenty two. The Lions beat the Commanders
and the Seahawks meet the Cardinals by that score.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So four times in history, three times this year.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yes, correct, that's insane. That's the two point conversion for you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Welcome to the National Football League twenty twenty five. Yeah,
just going up and down the list, you know, just
to put the you know from my punctuation mark on it.
Just this was probably the hardest week, like in terms
of what predictions, and I got a couple of things right.
The running back position in the top played out to form.
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But like in terms of game predictions, everything was wild,
wild ride rightf Miami chaos. Now h Chan having a
couple of big explosive runs, a whole other thing but
now all of a sudden buffalo. Not that I was
trusting a lot of guys, but I'm feeling a lot
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more nervous about them as a squad, right bridging that
fantasy reality gap. But I think we got that with
the number of teams were something like we were talking
about with the Packers and Eagles to start things. I
just don't know, and Week ten left me a little
more nervous about my lineup setting going forward.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't know if this is a very amateur review
of how I look at the NFL, but there's in
picking games, there's always a week where I just kind
of bottom out because the NFL has changed. Usually I'll
just go a lot of underdogs because we don't know
who's good early on. At some point we figure out
who's good and who isn't. I thought that there were
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so many lines that were telling us things this week,
and it's just a to you or me or whoever
to listen, like the Rams being the favorite against the
forty nine ers, the Ravens being the favorite against Minnesota
Ian's Jets. I don't know what the ultimate line ended
up being at the end of the day. I think
it was two was it in so New York minus two.
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In our little picks thing that we do, it was
Jets minus two and a half. There were so many
things that were that were telling us certain things. Granted
they weren't telling us the Buffalo situation or the Carolina situation,
but there were other things that they were telling us.
And I'm like, really, Baltimore four and a half, you know, like,
all right, let's roll with it. The Rams. I thought
the forty nine ers had a decent shot. They didn't.
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They didn't on Sunday for all good the Rams played.
So that's where I thought, like Week ten was interesting
because yeah, it threw me some curveballs. I didn't. I
didn't have a great week in Week ten.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, and then the Rams.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, you know the way that game played out,
the forty two twenty six you still got your fantasy points.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah he did, right, Like I was playing in.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
A league against someone who had kittle and for the
longest time like i'p good, it's the other tight end
that ain't him. And then all of a sudden you
look at the final final box score and well, there
he is with his massive, massive performance.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
He finishes with nine eighty four and one, as they're
just in desperation, clean up, comeback mode the entire way.
Christian McCaffrey with his thirty yards rushing. Fortunately you got
eight catches for sixty six yards to save you once again.
But that Rams team is a machine right now, fellas.
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I mean, that is a whole other thing going on there.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Super Bowl contenders for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I think I'm the best team in the league
right now.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I would be.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, They're the Seahawks coming to town on Sunday, so
that'll be a that'll be a fun one. But that
is not the Marquee late game. It's Chiefs Broncos on CBS.
Oh boy, that is the Marquee late game. Yes, the
four or five Eastern time kick is the Seahawks and
Rams in La.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Plus side Seattle in the Rams forty eight and a
half for an over under.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Baby. Let's all right, uh Week eleven, Yeah, it'll be
here before we know it. All right, We're gonna take
our time out, come back with our report cards for
how we did in week ten, plus Mike Scott some
waiver wire picks. Also in our midweek episode, there was
big news in the NFL on Monday as Brian Dable
was fired by the New York Giants. We'll tell you
some of the ramifications of that, plus Joe Burrow back practicing,
(30:26):
and some other takeaways as we look into week eleven.
That's coming up in our next episode. But next Waiver
Wire and report cards here on, I want your flex
all right, it's report card time. How do we do
in week ten? He's Mike Carmen, that's Ian Roddy, our
executive producer. I'm Dan Byer. Mike. We talked about how
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tough it was to pick games in week ten? How
do we do fantasy wise on your ledger?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Pretty good?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
On the running back side of things, we got our
ah Chen and Tay I mean, Taylor's just you know
in charpye at this point, but sometimes you just take
the chalk with Gibbs. But McCaffrey okay, ish because of
the receiving yards, but certainly not a top five performance
from him and Bjeon Robinson. Anybody anybody want to want
a little bit of Tyler all year for your love?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
No, that was terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Dark Caleb and May made me look smart. Josh Allen,
Jalen Hurts and Justin Herbert did not wide receiver JSN
Drake London was one of our top five and Roman
dooons they finished as a top ten, as did Lad McConkey,
So we'll take some w's there.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
In the hot.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Plays, Golf and Stafford shown big, as did Rico and
our guy Jalen Wattle finished as the number eleven receiver
for the week, so we're gonna take a W there.
Kyle Manung guy left let me down and left me flat,
even though the Bears got that win more on the
midweek episode with all of that cold soars Saquon, I
(31:56):
guess I take a W there, even though I was
hoped being for better just from a I want more
fantasy options for people and stars to shine.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
But hey, chaos rules too.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We got Jordan Love right because he was what's that
word not good? Wrong on Chris Alave. He finished as
a top ten right on Addison, so we'll take a
W there. Davis Mills was a ninja. I think I'm
gonna say that fourteen times because that worked out pretty
well for me.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Otherwise, we didn't get.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Much from Marvin Harrison Junior, and then we had a
bunch of also rans. When you look at the Judkins
Singletary's of the world. So some wins, some losses.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
MATC.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Jones was a win as well, so we'll run with that.
Jalen Warren, like all of the Pittsburgh Steelers, go enjoy
Disneyland or something that's more entertainment than you gave America
on Sunday Night it was.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I will say this, you could have got Devin Singletary
to really cash in if Brian Dable would just go
for it on fourth down. I know they tried a
couple of times in the ultimate loss to your Chicago Bears,
but yeah, if you could have done that, that would
have helped the Ninja play, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
But they go and on that fourth down, right, it's
the you even had the too many men on the
field penalty, it would have moved it even that much closer.
You don't think you can get a half a yard
or to that point your defense had played pretty well.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I know.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
It's one of like nine thousand things on the reasons
why Brian.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Dable is no longer the Giants coach.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But as a Bears fan, great, you want to be
a dope and take a field goal, have at it.
But you have a ten place seventy nine and a
half yard drive and you settle for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I know I at the time, honestly, and I hate
to admit this, but I'm like, they gotta kick it right,
like you gotta go up two scores back, I know,
I get look back now, I'm like, hey, he should
have gone for it, especially after you know, the couple
of drives the Bears head then after that to ultimately
win the game. But tough times in Giants Land. Oh yeah, now,
(34:14):
the the the Mike Kafka Northwestern grad era can begin.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
As I've got my Northwestern jacket on tonight. Mike Kafka,
the pride of Saint Rita High School in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think he's got a chance to keep the job. Honestly,
I do too.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He was plus six fifty in the odds in a
couple of spots.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah yeah, we'll get more on that. Ian. How'd your
report card look for Week ten?
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Yeah? Not bad? This week. Let's start with the worst
and then work our way up. So the worst was
the Carolina Panthers. Of the ones that I gave you,
they got your four Fantasy points on the week. So
not not awful. Allowed seventeen points to the Saints and
Tyler Shuck, but they salvaged it by recovering a fumble
and sacking him twice. So not bad there. And the
(35:03):
next was the Baltimore Ravens got you six Fantasy points.
They allowed nineteen points to JJ McCarthy and the Vikings
or should I call him nine saw that as ulter
ego deal. They picked him off twice, recovered to fumble,
and sacked him but by far the least amount of
sacks JJ McCarthy has taken as a starter yet, so
(35:24):
a little underwhelmed there. I expected more from the Ravens,
but that's okay. Next was the Jacksonville Jaguars eight Fantasy
points for you. They allowed thirty fantasy points or they
allowed thirty points excuse me, to the Texans and Davis Mills,
but they did get an interception of fumble, recovery and
two sacks. And then the best play of the week,
(35:44):
by far of the ones I gave you was my
New York Jets. They twenty fantasy points they got you,
which was so absurd, and you guys know what it
came from. It was the kick return touchdown followed by
the punt return touchdown. They also got six sacks on
the day too, Thank you Will McDonald getting four on
his own. But yeah, the Jets twenty twenty fantasy points
(36:05):
was huge for you. So if you went ahead and
started them, congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
If only you know DeMarcus Lawrence hadn't scored twice for Seattle,
more people would be talking about that that crazy day
for the Jets in addition to getting to win. How
about this, Jerry Judy found the end zone. I'm just
gonna give a quick He was the guy that I
was so so sure that was such a great value pick.
(36:30):
The multiple shares player a couple of years ago was
Brandon Cooks. He failed me. Jerry Judy in the Browns
filled me miserably. This year, I don't have Jerry Judy
on any of my teams anymore, and I had him
on like three of my teams to start the year.
But he finally got into the end zone on Sunday.
Crazy well. Kudos to the Jets, and kudos for the
(36:52):
suggestion on taking the Jets as the streaming defense. I
gave you a points of palooza of Buccaneers and Patriot
and while there were points in that game ended up
being twenty twenty three in Trevon Henderson, the big game,
Mecca BUCA gets in the end zone. Ts Johnson gets
in a couple of times for Tampa. Didn't come close
to what we had in the late window and some
(37:13):
of those other games so didn't reach the points of
Poloo's level. I did tell you earlier in the week
to take Broncos and Survivor over the Raiders on Thursday night,
but I gave you a bonus pick, and that bonus
pick from the Sunday games failed you. Panthers lost to
the Saints, So a lot of people, guys, about twenty
five percent of the pool that was remaining in the
(37:37):
contest that I'm in, had the Panthers as their pick,
and the Saints ended up ruining the day. The other
part the Bills and their loss to the Dolphins eliminated
at about ten percent of the pool that I'm still in.
So yeah, so those upsets, and Mikey, honestly, your Bears
were a popular pick as well against the Giants, and
(37:57):
they saved the day to keep to keep some lives.
A lot live about succeed p Yeah, about eight percent
of the the pool ended up picking the Bears and survivor,
but the Panthers because value pick. You know, they're hovering
around five hundred. I mentioned the travel of the Saints
that I thought would catch up, but it was more
of I think the Panthers flying high from their win
against the Packers and they had an absolute let down
(38:20):
on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
That's still a five hundred team.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know. Bryce Young has eclipsed two hundred passing yards
once this year.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't remember a pass from that game that he
like threw downfield.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
No, he had one hundred and twenty four yards.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, it's just unbelievable. Dump dump off, dump off, dump off.
And the Panthers even had a leon let situation go
their way where the Saints blocked the field goal. It
was one of the truest ball don't lie results I've
seen in the NFL in a while. So the Saints
blocked the Panthers field goal. The deflection ended up. You know, guys,
(39:01):
sometimes if you block one, it goes way behind the
kicker and hold her and you could pick it up
and run it back for a touchdown. Other times it
just goes flying into the end zone because someone got
a hand on it. This one was deflected and then
landed right across the line of scrimmage hit a Saints
player in the helmet, may have been Cam Jordan, and
(39:22):
the Panthers recovered and because it touched the Saints past
the line of scrimmage, the Panthers got the ball first
and ten they ended up throwing and it was a
fumbler and interception soon after that. But yeah, it was crazy,
but it's honestly a rule that should probably change. But
remember the old Leon Lett play of the uh you know,
(39:44):
going to recover the football after it was blocked and
then he touched it and didn't recover it and the
Dolphins didn't. They got the football, but that was the
rule on That was the rule that was in play
on Sunday. The Panthers couldn't cash in though, because of
that fumble having a.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Holder on a punt, I guess is how you would
equate it. Yeah, you know, so that the ball gets
beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's live.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, it's crazy because it just was like, you know,
rarely do you see a ball deflected and only go
like two or three yards. So it literally landed like
in a scrum of players that just happened to be
on the same side, so there was really no way
to like avoid that scenario. I guess you just have
to be aware that you have to jump on the football.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Then I just love those ball don't lie moments in
football like that. Yes, Clowney at South Carolina when he
sat that guy in his helmet flew off at right
after they the refs overturned a fourth down conversion.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I don't know, I'm done. Yeah, I love them as
well because you're like, all right, there's justice in the world.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yes, there is the football gods.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yes, you have their way, all right, Mike. Let's look
ahead to Week eleven waiver Wire. Who are some names
we need to pick up? With the Colts and the
aforementioned Saints on by just two teams on buying week.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Along no Tyler Shuck this week Top twelve quarterback shuts.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
How about number nine going up against the Chicago Bearris.
They are the third most generous to opposing quarterbacks. He's
available in about half the League's pains me to say
that because it's been a pretty ugly watch, just like
the Thursday and Monday games and that Sunday Night football game.
I know, don't know how much you want to sell that.
(41:32):
When al Michaels is starting to go back into his vault,
I think they use the almanac bit like nine times,
Like let's do that again, Kirk, how's your dog?
Speaker 6 (41:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Jj McCarthy fifty six per Aaron Rodgers against Cincinnati. Just opportunity,
you know what I mean. It's it's just a bad,
bad kind of thing. You're looking at Joe Flacco going
against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
He's half owned.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
We'll talk more about the Joe Burrow the rise in
the midweek episode to a tongue of Blago went against
Washington twenty percent, So you got that opportunity there.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
The bye week kills this opportunity.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
But we've seen Alec Pierce become more and more of
a threat, averaging about twenty two yards per catch for Indianapolis.
He's available about sixty percent of the leagues, but this
is one because of the bye you might be able
to get him at a bargain in your free agent
acquisition budget because people can't plug him right in the
aforementioned Jerry Judy why not fifty seven percent owned? Am
(42:35):
I fully out full on endorsing it, but no, But
we're looking for opportunists here and going up against the
Baltimore defense which has gotten better but still can be
had downfield. Troy Franklin is the guy for Denver. As
much as we don't love the passing game right now,
a lot of questions. He's at least being targeted Tes
Johnson going up against Buffalo. He's thirty three percent owned
(42:59):
Parker Washington in the last two games eleven catches for
one hundred and twenty three yards and a TD, so
opportunity there. De Marcado and Algier are the other two
guys from the running back position that we want to
take a look at, and we mentioned Burrow.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
He's available about forty percent of leagues.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
If you've got an extra roster spot and you want
to stash it that somehow, that foot and everything comes
together for the stretch run and you want to be
plucky or just play a little bit of defense, may
maybe you go and do the preemptive ad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I am I am really curious to see on what
the Cardinals end up doing with their backfield, because I
do think that De Marcado has shown his value to
the squad. Trey Benson obviously was a guy that when
James Connor got hurt, we thought was going to fill in,
and then Benson gets hurt, and then we hear the
elevation of Bam Knight. But I think that De Marcado
(43:52):
has done enough to keep his gig. And now you
got San Francisco coming to town. And I don't know
how much the Cardinals have to play for, but they
should be motivated for losing earlier this year in San
Francisco in a game they probably should have won. And
forty nine ers come in still kind of banged up
in Brock party situation in the air, and maybe Ricky
Piersoll is coming back. But yeah, funky times with San
(44:13):
Francisco for sure. That's That's the other NFC West battle
on Sunday, so that anymore waiver wire, Are we good? No?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I think we ran the gamut on there.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
We got a little deeper in the needs talking about
broadcast crews and bits to kill time.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So well get ready because again it's Jets Patriots on Thursday,
so you may have more time to fill. I'll do
anything just so we don't have two ten to seven games.
That's that's all.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Look for the Thursday games.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I think they can at least kill time by having
an added live shopping feature. Since it is an Amazon feature.
There's al selling me a blender. Ice Cream makers are
a big rage this year, all the retailers. Maybe he
can make some soft serve and give you a recipe
or two.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Man, those are those are the Those are the let's
make it once sort of deals.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And then it sits in the corner.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, exactly, take spot Yeah, in your garage, your basement
or wherever.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Because it took too long to clean the damn thing.
You did it once.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
You also need like eighty ingredients and time, so like,
screw this, We're not gonna do it anymore. And the
ice cream tastes like crap. Let's just go buy some
for six bucks down the street. That's a lot easier,
all right, So that's gonna do it for I want
your flags.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I'm not wrong, No, I mean I haven't tried it,
but it sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah. When you spend three hours making homemade ice cream
and it doesn't even come close to what you can
get out of a small carton down at your local
grocer grocer, it's a yeah, best to not make your
own homemade ice cream. I'd be pissed if I came
over to Ian or your place, You're like, Dan, sit
down homemade ice cream, Like I'll just go get some
(46:03):
Ben and Jerry's or Hagadas. Don't worry about it, guys.
Oh man man, Yeah, before.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Bread, serve it.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
It would be like iteration to forty, like it would
have had to be good. I would eat the crap
stuff myself, just on principle that I spent the time
in the effort. But like anything that I show up
at work with, like I've vetted it so like I've
at least decided it rose to my standards, and maybe
(46:29):
I just have low standards.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
If you said, hey, I got a bunch, I got
a bunch of venison, I got a dehydrator, I made
some jerky, have it at it, I'd be like, cool,
let's do it. Let's dig in. Just not ice cream.
Probably not gonna happen. Okay, too confusing the jerky. Yeah, absolutely,
all right, a.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Little more straightforward process. I get you.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's gonna do it for us, and I want your flex.
We'll be back with another midweek episode and then at
the end of the week getting a set four. Week eleven,
it's gonna be playoff time. Yeah, some playoffs starting in
week fifteen. Others may be in week sixteen. But we
are heading in the stretch run, so hopefully we can
give you the advice that you need. So for my Carmen,
Andy and Roddie, I'm Dan Byer. We will talk to
you next time here and I want here flex
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