Tiger is Nostalgic

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Eldrick Tiger Woods once again wins a major for the
fifth time. I would like to point out that many
of you have seen videos and red tweets about from
other analysts, other reporters, other opinion is, other people who
have said they sold their tiger woodstock even through the

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darkest hours. I still believe that Tiger Woods could come
back to this stage and win. And as I told
you a hundred times over this network or either of
my previous two networks, because that's how long it's been.
Either the previous two networks. That was five years of CBS,

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in my last year and a half of ESPN. He
would not he could not win. And I said, if
there's a place he's going to win first, it is
Augusta National. One plays to his game because the rick
the rough is not so so thick that if he
goes wayward on a drive he can't find a way
to get to his irons. He's arguably the best iron

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player in the history of the sport. And even if
you go back to the First Masters, after he had
the car accident, he finished fourth at Augusta, right at
his bottom on a bum knee, with a bum head
and a bum heart. He finished fourth. So it shouldn't

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be a stunner. But considering here's the guy who had
to have fusion surgery, Here's the guy who's had a
torn achilles tendon, had knee issue, knee issues, He's had
uh sex addition addiction. If you consider that a real addiction,
you know, So that's another discussion for another moment. Maybe

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with all of that considered a remarkable, remarkable comeback. But
I think even more interesting is how everyone I know
seem to be cheering for the guy, and whether it
was the moment of embraced with his own son and
the thoughts of his embrace with his father, or whether

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it was seeing the Red Shirt on a Sunday and
watching him do something that he had not done in
previous major wins, which has come from behind. I think
we're left searching for Hey, did I really just cheer
for a guy who didn't sign autographs, didn't tip people,

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didn't seem to take his vows seriously at all, a
guy who was driving under the influence less than two
years ago? And why am I cheering like I And
I don't even feel dirty about doing it. I just
I said this feeling of my stomach like I have friends,

(03:38):
multiple friends who were brought to tears. Whitlock was brought
to t Jason Wolock brought to tears watching Tiger Woods.
At the end, Mike sitting there going like, how do
we get here? Um? I am not yet a Game
of Thrones watcher, Okay. I am among that small group
of people who I've actually seen the first episode or

(04:02):
three quarters of first episode, and I'd like to at
some point watch it, but I have not reached that
point where I have to watch it. It was a
couple of years after Breaking Bad finished that, I went
back and watched Breaking Bad. I like Breaking Bad. It's
not the greatest show of all time. It's an incredibly

(04:23):
creative idea and it was a really good show, and
it it touched on the darkest parts of people sold
and what they were in fact capable of. It was
a great show. But I wasn't a Breaking Bad guy
when Breaking Bad was Breaking Bad. I also wasn't a
mad Men guy. I don't know when mad Men started,

(04:43):
I don't know what had ended. But shortly after finishing
Binge watching Breaking Bad, I binge watched mad Men, and
I thought about mad Men when I was watching Yesterday
because there's a scene in many scenes in Madman um

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there there's a scene where Don Draper talks about the
most powerful type of advertising, and I felt like it
related very much to why we cheer for Tiger. We
all liked new. Everybody likes the idea of something new,
and there were plenty of new fresh faces. Even Francisco Molinari, right,

(05:28):
just what a great name, right, just rolls up Francisco Malnali,
Francisco Malinali. You're like, oh, that's kind of new and
Rory was new and fun. Jordan's speed. Remember back when
he was dominating golf a couple of years ago, he
was new. What I love new? Ricky Fowler still feels
like he's new because he hasn't won a major. Right,
new is strong. New makes you excited. But there is

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something about nostalgia, right, There is something about like you're
watching a father hug us son and you're thinking about
your own kid. You're thinking about you. Then you watch
the father hug the dad, and if you've lost your dad,
hand in the air, you think about your own dad.
Half the country has been divorced. We don't necessarily want

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to be judged by uh, by our actions that caused
our divorce. And part of that draws you to Tiger Woods.
You watch Tiger Woods take off his hat and you
realize he's going bald. Who among us hasn't had some
sort of recession on our hairline, if not losing our
hair Like, all of these things suddenly become relatable, even

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though I can't relate to Tiger Woods. He grew up
fifteen minutes for me. He was on a completely different trajectory.
At three years old, he said he want to beat
Jack Nicholas, and now he's a couple of majors away
from taking down Jack's record. Tigers lost more money than
I will make in my lifetime ten times over. It's
hard to relate to a guy. But then I pick
up part different stories, and then I think about where

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was I in two thousand the greatest personal season in golf?
Because what Don Draper said in one episode of mad
Men was that as powerful as new is new, fresh, innovative,
nostalgia is even more popular. Technology is a glittering lure,

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but there's the rare occasion when the public can be
engaged on a level beyond flash, if they have a
sentimental bond with the product. My first job, I was
in house at a fur company with this old pro
copywriter Greek named Teddy, and Teddy told me the most
important idea in advertising is new creates an itch. You

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simply put your product in there as a kind of
calamine lotion. But he also talked about a deeper bond
with the product. Nostalgia. It's delicate, the potent, delic hit,
but potent, it's it's layered with some negativity, right, like, look,

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sometimes you think of things with your dad and who
among us doesn't have dad issues. You think about things
in your past, and there are roses. There are thorns
on every bit of roses. Not not All things in
our past are great, are glorious, and our wonderful, clean,
pure memories. But you know what happens as you get old, right,

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short term memory goes and your long term memory becomes
even stronger. And that's what happened yesterday at the Masters.
We've forgotten the d u I. We've forgotten the my
glutes aren't activated. We've forgotten the multiple swing coaches. We've
forgotten the beefs with the caddies, we've forgotten the catty

(08:54):
nous or even dismissed the fact that, I don't know
if you guys have seen the video where Molinari's team
off and there's Tiger Woods in his eyesight instead of
standing behind him right, which is kind of an active
gamesmanship which probably did work. Tiger with the red shirt on,
the most popular player in the history of the sport,
just happy to make his presence known while somebody else's

(09:17):
teeing off that that's not golf etiquette one oh one.
But we dismiss all of that because of our nostalgia
towards Tiger and how we look at it for ourselves.
How did we suddenly come to love Tiger who didn't
even ever really love us back. I mean to take
a listen to Dustin John. Now, DJ has his own demons.

(09:40):
DJ is a combination of Tiger and Phil because DJ,
who you know, grew up in South Carolina, a basketball player,
a good athlete, got swagged, beautiful wife, owned demons off
the course, kind of some other weird, weird stories about him.
But he's got all the game in the world and
he remains remarkably popular. There's a difference in his popularity

(10:01):
and Tiger. Don't believe me. Here's DJ. It was a
lot of fun today. You know, you could hear the
roars and you can definitely tell the difference between, you know,
roar for me or for Tiger. But I had a
lot of fun out there today. I thought it was.
It was a good day. I played well, just not
quite good enough, not quite good enough. He was not good.
He was great clubhouse leader twelve under setting setting the

(10:24):
bar there, so we knew what Tiger had to get to,
and he got to fourteen and then survived eighteen and
taps in for a win. But if you want to
know why we've come to love Tiger ahead of Ricky
and Fenale and Molinary and Day, even Jason Day. I
know he's not that young, but those guys are new.

(10:45):
Those guys are new technology. Nostalgia is incredibly powerful. And
whether we think about ourselves or about Tiger, or about
our own lives and how at mirrors on some level Tiger,
or how we dream of being as good at our
age as we were, as as he was yesterday, that

(11:09):
to me is why we suddenly love a guy even
though he's probably never loved us back. Longtime golf analyst
and author uh Rob Luc joins us. Upcoming next now
it comes the question is can Tiger keep this up right?
There's still Bethpage Black places one and of course you

(11:31):
got the British. He got pebl Beach where he dominated
in two thousand. What's the next mountain to climb and
can he continue to climb it? We'll discuss next in
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longtime golf analyst and author. He joins us on The
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, where were
you a year and a half ago, or even a
year ago on the possibility of what happened yesterday? Happening
oh somewhere on the you know the dark side of
the moon. Maybe I did not. Let's just say that

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not only did I not see this happening, Tiger Woods
didn't foresee it happening because two years ago he came
here to Augusta to the Champions dinner and needed a
nerve blocking injection just to be able to walk to
the dinner. Um, that's that's the kind of shape he

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was in. He was pretty sure he was done. And uh,
you know, I think at the time he certainly was
done physically. Uh, and in a lot of ways, spiritually
he was. He was just nowhere here returning to golf
much less you know, think the basters was it was
it was, it was a dream land, rather than said

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it's a longtime golf analyst. His new book is Unplayable
and inside account of Tiger woods most most tumultuous season.
Was Was that the season that you covered or was it, uh,
the year after the Elen thing went down? Well, I
mean the season the season that I covered, but the
book covers was actually two thousand and nine. Um, because

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and and that was just pure coincidence. So I just
thought people didn't know a lot about Tiger And that's
the way. In a lot of ways, he liked it.
I think we discovered later that there was a reason
for that, and the people around him kept things pretty
quiet and just kept it very sanitized. And again I'm
not I wasn't trying to do any sort of expose

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just to say, I was just trying to say, here's
here's the guy as I know him, as I've seen him.
And um, and then of course at the ant two
thousand and nine, Uh, you know the proverbial at the fans,
there have been I will say this, there have been.
There has been a lot a lot of tumultuous seasons since.
But sure, but you know, it was really incredible what

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we saw yesterday. I don't know that we've seen anything
like it in any sports. Okay, So, um, how did
how did we get here? Like I understand, he had
the back fusion surgery. He also became kind of his
own swing coach, like uh, and then he came from
behind to win a major. These are all things that
we had not seen before. What's the most remarkable part

(15:12):
of the story. Well, I mean, for sure, the most
remarkable part of the story is that he was well,
I mean in a sense that they're all they're all
the most remarkable parts of the story because you know,
he just was in no place to be able to
do any of this physically. And then you know, we
saw personally. I think actually where this where the road

(15:35):
to this queen Jacket began was with that d u
I in in two thousand and seventeen. I think that
that was his rock bottom. I think that he was
embarrassed and humiliated. The world saw that mug shot, The
world saw the video of of you know, the most
dominant golfer in history, unable to put three steps together

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and stumbling, and I mean, it was it was it
was really, really was something. And and I think the
fact that you know, he had, in my view, and
he doesn't talk about this, but pretty sure that he
had some problems with pain pills, as a lot of guys,
you know, a lot of people in America do. Unfortunately,

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it's very easy to get pain pills and it's very
easy to get addicted to them, and I think that
he had that problem. The fact that he got the
due I think spurred him to get himself together, clean
himself up. And then he also lucked out because he'd
had the three surgeries, they weren't successful and there was

(16:44):
essentially a Hail Mary surgical procedure, the spinal fusion. It
was the last thing that he could try, and he
tried it and it worked, and from there he was
able to at least be able to play golf again.
And uh and then just then it just became his will.
And you know, as we know back in the day,

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he had incredible self belief and incredible will. And he
really also another thing about the last three or four
months with him, I've really noticed actually last year in
August at the t g A, he started hitting his
irons like he used to hit him and he was
always a radical the tea and you know, his his

(17:28):
short game saved him a lot. But what I really
noticed was that his iron play was just fantastic and
it went back to what I remember seeing him at
his peak, um and and he showed that again yesterday.
He didn't leave the field and this master's in any category,
in fact, he was in the middle of He was
in the middle of the back in most categories except

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for irons. He hit the most greens of any player
in the field. And I think that's that's that shows
you know how far he's come. And and I think
it also shows how much he's got left, which I
believe is a lot. Yeah, I tend to agree, you know,
in the he and Jack best iron players ever, right,
Like that's what that's what the Gulf Rule believes and

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not just what I believe or you believe that. Jack
Nicholas said it yesterday. He you know, Jack Nicholas said,
I have never seen anyone with distance control, who could
control the distance of his eyns like Tiger Woods. Now
that's Jack Nicholas saying, man, that's that's you know, not
me or you or someone up the street, but the
man with the eighteen majors. And he played with a
lot of great players, So that tells you how great

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he looks at he looks at Tiger Woods as and
and sees. Now that you know his view now, I
mean he was joking when he sent it, but he said,
I'm shaking in my boots about the record, and I
think there's an element of that truth to that. I mean,
I think the hardest major of tagerer Win was fifteen
and and and certainly sixteen, seventeen and eighteen won't be

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as tough as fifteen. Um, there's a lot of interesting
stuff I think, you know, the only two guys that
really struggled yesterday were the two guys who were playing
with him. How much of that is Millinarian and female
are not may be viewed yet as being super ellogue guys.
How much of that is just the Tiger effect of

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all those guys when he was down, they said, hey,
I'm not scared Tiger. I'd love to play with Tiger.
That doesn't affect me. But then of course you play
with Tiger and it's a completely different animal than anything
you've experienced. Yeah, no, I think that's very true. But um,
I don't you know, Tony Fenelle is a great player,
and he's got a lot of talent, but he hasn't
really been much of a closer on the PJA two

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are He's he's still trying to find his way when
it comes to winning. So I wasn't really surprised that
he didn't have a good day. Um And and Molinari was.
If you remember back to Cannuci last year at the
Open Championship, Mullinari was was unbelievable. He was an honest
man and and he really stared down Tiger and one

(20:04):
that that's that Claren jug yesterday. The problem that I
thought Mulinari might have. He when you when you know,
when you play these tournaments, especially majors, even when Tiger
was at his best, there's always one round when you're
not you don't quite have it. And Molinari had three
great rounds and I thought, you know, there's a chance
the fourth round might be the one, whereas Brooks Keptka,

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for example, sort of struggled in the third round, and
I thought to myself, you know, he may come back
and and do well in the fourth round. So there
is a bit of a Tiger effect. It's not obviously
as prominent as it used to be, but if he
plays like he did yesterday again, you know that that
will happen. And what's interesting about the Tiger effect, it's

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not so much that he's brilliant. It's not, in fact,
he's not. He doesn't play that way. What he does
is he he forces you two out of your comfort
zone by doing the prudent thing. So as you saw
yesterday Bertie's Birdie's thirteen, would you say, okay, that's a
routine Birdie hit on in two at eight into the green,

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but not everybody does he birdied fifteen. Okay, yes, it's
a part five again. However, you have to hit a
good drive. It's a very hard holder birdie if you
have to lay up. So he birdied that on into
birdie that and then he birdie sixteen where he hits
a perfect just the most beautiful eight iron to the
slope goes down to a few feet. Makes that. So, yeah,

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he did make those three birdies, but he didn't make
any mistakes. He didn't make the mistake on twelve. They
all made a mistake and went in the water. He
played well left of the flag made part So in
a sense, he forces you to do things that you
don't you're not really comfortable doing, or at least you
think you need to do something more and and and
he just sits there and waits for the mistakes. And

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I think that's sort of an underappreciated part of Tiger's right.
Robert lucentis joining us in the Doug Gotlief Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. You should pick up his book,
Unplayable and Inside account of tigers most most tumultuous season.
What's fascinating about this year in particular is um the
two majors that are state side are two places that

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he's won before, right, Obviously Pebble a place that he
had his most dominant major, maybe the most dominant anyone's
ever seen. And then of course Beth Page Black, like
you mentioned you you think he's got a lot left
how much you know, What are your thoughts in the
possibility of him winning another major this year? Well, I
I like his chances. Let's say that. I mean, listen,

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and let's not beat around the bush. Pebble Pebble Beach
in two thousand was not only the greatest golf performance
but one of the greatest in sporting history. Won by fifteen.
It's just you know, I mean, other guys have won
by seven and eight, and that's that's that's off the charts.
Nobody wins by fifteen. Nobody has everyone but fifteen that

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I was there for that I'll never see anything like
it again. And Pebble Beach, I think is perfect for
him because if there's one thing that he's you know,
he's not ever been really great at and and is
driving the golf ball, and at Pebble Beach, I think
he can find a way to get it into a

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place where he can. You go to his strength, which
is his iron game, and again he had a hundred
and twenty puts this week at Augusta and won the
Master's Dutts. Is not great for Tiger Woods. Uh you know,
I know, the only one by one, but let's just say.
I mean there are plenty of tournaments where he's had
between five parts, So I think that one through for

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a minute, that would have been a hell of a
whin if you've done that. But Bethpage Black, I think
again it suits him. He's won there. But again, Beth
Page Black, he's going to have a little bit more
of a challenge because guys like Kepta who were just
going to hit and really have a big, big advantage.
That is a big ballpark that takes Black. So again

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he's not a short hitter, but he's somewhere in the
twenty to thirty range in terms of distance, and there's
a lot of guys Dustin Johnson, Rory kept who were
just going to hit a buy him. But again, if
his iron play is the way it is, I think
he's got a great chance at both of those venues.
And then Royal Port rushed. You know, nobody's with they

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haven't had an open there and you know whatever, it's
been eighty years. Um, so that's a crapshoot. It could
be you know, any that could be anyone's. But again,
you know, I I really went from thinking this guy
would never win another major there now wondering if he's
gonna win at least two this year. Now crazy crazy stuff,
rather great stuff. Uh, it's I think he was a

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great day for your sport. Obviously good day of your
book as well. But we really appreciate your insight and
joining us on Fox Sports Radio. You gotta Robert Lucettage,
longtime golf analysts and author Unplayables, the book inside account
of Tiger's most most tumultuous season that's back in two
thousand nine. Let's get you, Isaac, glow and cry and
find out what else going on in the world sports. Isaac,
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his representatives have apparently told the Seahawks. From Mike Florio

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Pro Football Talk, Pro League source, the Seahawks think that
Wilson would like to play elsewhere, even if he hasn't
and wouldn't ever say it. They also believe that there's
an unspoken dynamic that will cause Wilson to drive a
harder bargain with them than he would with another team,
according to Peter King. According to a source close to
the talks, they say that Uh, they won't do a

(27:44):
long term deal with the Seahawks if it's not done
by tonight. Read that last sense again. I didn't mean
they put off further talks and new contract until two
thousand twenty. If it's not done by tonight. I mean
Wilson and Rogers don't plan to negotiate Rogers agent further
with the Seahawks period. My source told, My source says

(28:06):
they've told g M. John Schneider it has to be
done now or not at all. Tyron Matthew tweets out
Russ wants New York, but you ain't heard that from Tea.
Colin Coward said this weeks ago that Russell Wilson wants
to be with the New York Giants. Now, look, things

(28:29):
benefit the Seahawks if he's signed to a long term deal.
When you're when you're a general manager, you've got to
know what the fixed costs are. Even if you signed
Russell Wilson to a long term contract which is more
money than you want to sign to, at least you
know what it's gonna cost you, whereas now you have
no idea. You just don't know. And he wants to

(28:50):
be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.
Um do I think he wants to play New York.
I think he thinks he wants to play New York
because I think he thinks his wife would be happy.
He also sees the New York Giants gave out the
biggest contract they've ever given out to a wide receiver
just last year to Odell Beckham Jr. There's a lack
of reality there, which they got the dead cap money

(29:12):
for Odell Beckham Jr. Would they make a trade now,
would it occur at the end of this year or whatever?
I mean. Look, the ball truly is in John Snyder's court.
He's the gentlemanager of the Seahawks. If they want to
they can have him this year. They can franchise the
next year. They can franchise in the year that. Frankly,
they can transition, franchise tag him the third year. Like
all of these things could happen and there is no negotiation.

(29:35):
There's the threat of pulling a Levy on Bell, which
seems very very unlikely, or just the idea, maybe we'll
trade him at the end of this season and get
as much out of him as we can. This is
the proverbial game. Of chicken. Right, technically, the Seahawks have
all the leverage. He's under contract and they can franchise
tag him. In reality, it's about it's mixed. It's about

(29:59):
sixty forty to see Hawks because they want they still
need to have some cost certainty. They need to know
what their quarterbacks gonna cost. And if they franchise tag
and remember a franchise tag, what you spend dollar for
dollar goes on the salary cap. That's a high, high number.
So I might be the only one, but I definitely

(30:20):
think you consider trading him if you get a pirates
bounty for him. Here's the problem. I think that Russell
Wilson is walking into one. This is off brand for him.
Now he can position it however he wants in terms
of fairness of pay and what the market says and
staying out of the media, and I won't comment on it.

(30:40):
And so if I don't comment on it, nothing leaks out.
There is no negativity. But this is off brand because
the things that he says are that he's all about team,
all about winning, all about answering questions the exact right way,
and the bad guys were on the defensive side of
the ball. The bad guys are on other teams that
are selfish, and he is a selfish That's that's the

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brand for him. This is off brand for him. The
second part is this, I think we all believe that
in the in the sight of pressure, pressure to sign
Russell Wilson, that a gentlemanager will give in and go,
you know what, here you go, take the keys to
the car, take the keys to the bank fault. Here's

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everything you possibly wanted. Because many other teams do that.
But you better be very very careful when you walk
in with no leverage. You better be very very careful
when you say now or else, because what if they
pick or else? You got a ghost offer, you've got
another possible home. You think you've got leverage. Truth is,

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Seahawks got you under contract for at least the next
three years if they want to, and maybe even four.
That's the prime of your career. And though Levan Bell
ultimately got a big long term contract with the Jets
and you're a quarterback and you'd be in your early
three DEAs and you would undoubtedly get a long term contract,
it is not the contract that he wanted, and he
lost a year of salary. You want to threaten not playing. Okay,

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that's fourteen million that Levian won't may back. It'd be
twenty five million that you wouldn't make back. Be very
very careful about walking in with leverage, because you better
be willing to use it. It's Calamari no longer going
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This is game time side on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Godlic Shows, brought you by Discover Card. We treat you
like you'd treat you. What do you got there, Isaac Lowenkron,
all right, Doug Lea's find out what's on the menu.
Little deal, no deal? This first one is a formality.
It's kind of like when you're sitting in the exit
row on an airplane and you know the deal, but

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the flight attendants still has to get verbal confirmation. Tiger
Woods winning the Masters yesterday, his first major and over
ten years. Big deal, A little deal or no deal?
That's a big deal. All right. With that out of
the way, President Trump will be awarding Tiger the Presidential
Medal of Freedom. Is that a big deal? A little

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deal or no deal? Um? Feels like a big deal, right?
But why what is the Presidential Medal of Freedom? Freedom? Yeah? Um,
it's the nation's highest civilian honor. You why, I guess
because presidents can do what they want. He'd be only

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the fourth golfer Arnie and Jack and Charlie Sifford, and
he would be the fourth last year for example, among
the honorees posthumously, of course, Babe Ruth and then still
with US, Roger Staubach and Alan Page. Okay, I mean, yeah, man,
I guess you're giving it to great athletes. It's fine. Um.

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It recognized people, especially meritorious contribution to the security and
national interests United States, world peace, cultural, or other significant
public or private endeavors. Yeah, okay, sure, I mean sure.
Onto a potential future Presidential Medal of Freedom honoree Lebron

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James invited by Charles Barkley to join the TNT crew
on the air, and Lebron replying by tweeting, quote, Sir Charles,
I actually do have a ton going on, but I
may take you up on your offer. We shall see
hashtag King in studio unquote big deal, little deal or
no deal. That sounds like a really big deal. If

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that happens would be nice, don't you think, I mean,
if if he's gonna he was on vacation, he comes
on vacation, appear on T n T and they've been
kind of tweaking in plus a lot of times either
come to Jesus moments where guys say things that they
wouldn't normally say exactly, and I wonder, I'm sure he
must have been in studio. Well, I don't know if
he's ever been in studio before because at this time

(35:39):
of the year, he's always participating in the playoffs. On
to the NFL and our friend and NFL Network analyst
Daniel Jeremiah, friend of the show, tweeted that on April one,
his confidence meter that Kyler Murray would be taking number
one overall in the draft was but on April fifteen,
which is today, of course, his confidence that Tyler will

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be the first overall pick dropped from to and Jeremiah
saying the reason why so many team visits If it's
an inside job and understanding between the player, the team,
and his agent, why take all the visits? A couple
in the top five? I get, not the rest just
a hunch doesn't feel like a done deal. Speaking of deals,
is that a big deal, a little deal or no deal? Uh?

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That feels like a big deal as well. Now, look,
do I think taking a bunch of visits? I think
that Again, it's just like, why do you visit the Raiders?
Moiders don't have the number one overall pick? We yeah,
but they could trade up for it or what happens
if you fall through. I don't feel like it's a
big deal he's taking his visits, but I do feel
like it's a big deal that now there's talking about

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him possibly not going number one overall. Kevin Durant telling
The Undefeated he has not made any decision regarding free
agency yet, saying, quote, Yo, just watch the game. Just
focus on the game and stop nitpicking. Can I do
right now? I can't sign a paper. I got to
do the most important thing, and that is play and

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that is what we should be focusing on. Unquote that
a big deal, a little deal or no deal? Uh,
that's that's a little deal. I mean, right, looked, I
think the big deal in the Kevin Durant game is
that the NBA is gonna If they're gonna allow Patrick
Beverley to to almost like openly taunt Kevin Durant and

(37:27):
to get physical with him like, then they're obviously gonna
let other guys do it. And my thing is this,
I think Steph Curry is amazing. Would the NBA allow
somebody to do that to Steph Curry? No? And this
this is what happens in basketball oftentimes and having been
a little guy, I can tell you little guys get
away with all kinds of dirtiness you shouldn't get away with.

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Oh yeah, I mean some of the some of the
dirtiest or more politely craftiest players in the NBA are
not the big man. It's the little guys who are
like picking at you like nats and know all the
tricks of the trade, if you will. And finally, Julio
Jones not attending today's offseason workout with the Falcons as

(38:10):
he and the Falcons continue negotiating a long term contract.
Is his absence today a big deal, a little deal
or no deal? It's it's a little deal, a little
deal that he's missing time. You know, the the the
older players frankly need more time off and they are
negotiating a long term deal. Um, but we've seen this
from Julio going back to last year where they relented
and gave him a deal. This is game time on

(38:35):
the Doug Gottlieb Show. So Stefan Marbury tweeting at me
from some from China's state side, what's this? What's the
story here? I actually don't know. I have no clue.
What in the world is going on with that. Well,
what happened was I think it was over the weekend
I said, biggest myth in basketball NYC has has ballplayers,
and um, Stefan Marbury tweets out, Uh, Doug, do you

(38:59):
remember how dirty I used to do you in front
of your daddy? Of course, my dad was my coach
offen Au. I actually never played against Stefan in au basketball.
Played against him once in the Magic's Roundball Classic. I
was replacement for Chaunce Billips and Stefan Barbara, I believe
was like one for a ten or one for eleven
um and Uh. I only made one shot in that game,
but I had, you know, like twelve assist in that game.

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My team won by thirty points. But that's regardless of
the point. He actually never played against me in front
of my dad except for his practice that week would
be the point. I'll back up why I'm actually right
and why he's taking out of context and the problem
with Twitter, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, upcoming next hour, right, because
if you actually look, not that many players in New
York City, considering the hype lost in the weekend of

(39:44):
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Today is forty two day, right the day we recognized
Jackie Robinson day. You know else we should recognize Peewee Reese.
He has another Peewee rece story told us to somebody
over the weekend. Ironically, Peewee Reese was shortstop for those
Brooklyn Dodgers dumn bums. Right. They're playing in Cincinnati and uh,

(40:28):
Cincinnati has a report like sneaky Boston. Like Boston has
a reputation among some as Boston's a racist city. Um
and Cincinnati, which is you know, northern Kentucky is where
the airport is, has some of the same reputation in
both football and baseball. They're playing against Cincinnati and the

(40:52):
fans were given Jackie Robinson a hard time because Jackie
Robinson was the first black player in baseball and the
story goes, The legend goes that peee Reese walked over
during warmups do while they're taking in field and put
his arm around Jackie Robinson. It doesn't make what what

(41:14):
Jackie Robinson did any less heroic, but it's the idea
of being a great teammate, understanding how how to quell
a situation. Um, not exactly, not exactly what's going on
in Philadelphia, right Philadelphia, They got dudes, and I get it,

(41:35):
like maybe there's an explanation for having your cell phone
on the bench, and then you have Joel embid peeking
at said cell phone and saying you just looked down
for a second. But man, that team looked like a
hot mess. All this hope, all this hype and and
B doesn't look right physically. Ben Stimmons still can't shoot,

(41:57):
and they eliminated many of the shooters from their raw
street in order to load up and be top heavy
with what people call this is like fantasy basketball on paper.
Ben Simmons, yes, Joel Embiid, Yes, Jimmy Butler sure, JJ
Reddick absolutely, Man, that's a great starting lineup. And as

(42:17):
much as I love JJ Reddick, there's a reason that
they couldn't win with the Clippers. Much as I love
Ben Simmons, there's a reason that the Australian national team
didn't select him. There's a reason people lacked the buy
in on Joel Embiid. There's a reason that Jimmy Butler's
on his third team in the last year. Right. Welcome

(42:39):
in Ryan Rassilo. He's got a couple of podcasts, but
the Dual Threat podcast Brian Silo and the Ryan Rassilo Show,
which you can check out the Dual Dual Threat one
on the ringer Um. What's your take on what's going
on in Philadelphia. It's the most problematic of any of
the losses, though I guess weren't supposed to happen, because

(43:00):
you know, whenever I think about these teams and the
doubt you'll have around him, and whenever Golden States in trouble,
and I'm not talking about the talent. We've seen results
where you go, I don't figure it out, they'll figure
it out at least went around or two somewhere along
the line. And last year was the first version of
this team, and this year is another first version of
this team. And I kept waiting for all the gel
and then I just accepted that there's gonna be certain

(43:21):
nights where one of those four guys is not very good,
because that's what's gonna happen. And Brown has tried to
space the minutes by having Harris Butler together and and
staggering it away from Simmons and b but to see
them all together, and whether it's Simmons disappearing again and
Beads knee, which I know was a problem in game

(43:42):
one because they had to take him out, but you know,
the guy had a week ago he went for thirty four,
thirteen and thirteen against the Bucks, So the knee can't
be that bad. And it's the knee that's lingering. It's
been going on since the all Start break. He put
up massive numbers in March two's average of thirty again
and parts. So of all the things that that bothered me,

(44:04):
I can keep getting back to Simmons, Doug because I
know when it's really good, it's a lot of fun.
It's it's almost like something we've never seen before. But
then at the other end, he doesn't seem to understand
spacing at all. Um he's supposed to be better when
it beat isn't out there. I've seen that before and
that didn't happen in Game one. And then the bigger
problem team wise was that once Brooklyn went small, Philadelphia

(44:26):
was lost. That's completely lost, and then they're always looking
to attack Reddick. I almost felt like he kept Reddick
in there to get up the foul out. So there's
a long list of things, and the other the other losses,
I can explain this one. This one was really alarming. Well, um,
there's there's a bunch to it. I mean it is
the Brooklyn playing with five five out, essentially five out offensively,

(44:47):
is like, look, no one is saying that, you know,
name wise, they're as good as the Philadelphia seventies years,
but the three point shot being the ultimate equalizer as
our layups that are created by made three point shots,
and Brooklyn is just playing kind of analytics basketball. And
then there's the other idea that you point out with
the JJ Reddick was like, look, I love JJ Reddick,

(45:07):
this is not a but it's really hard for JJ
Reddick to be hidden on a basketball floor. Right do
you have to be so good defensively outside of JJ
to hide him because you can't guard anybody fair isn't it. Yeah,
I still think you should be able to hide at
least one guy, especially when you have that much side.
But having him beat kind of in and out made

(45:29):
them worse than probably two days before saying hey, we're
not gonna have him beat game one. Okay, like we're
not gonna have him. We'll see what's up. And then
everybody's preparing mentally, and what happened in that game is
because they had had him. It's almost like they forgot
that he wasn't in and so guys are awful in
their communication to get beat on switches and then they're like, oh,
that's right, there's nobody back there, going back there because

(45:53):
there isn't really another big guy. Because the first four
minutes of that game, I'm thinking, man, Philly is so big,
Like we know how big these guys are, but I
think this is a problem, Like I gotta get Generin
out out of there, and he's got four fouls against
the ponds the first four minutes, like this is a
problem on the size thing. And then just all of
a sudden, It's like a lot of games, and like
a lot of these series, like something will look so

(46:14):
real and so significant in one game and then the
second game things just changed. So I'm kind of holding
out some kind of hope that they're going to tighten
this thing up. But I think we all understand that
Atkinson is at a different level of Bett Brown too,
and Brett didn't have those guys. You're remotely ready for
them to go small when you kind of do the Nets.
We're gonna have to try it at some point because

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they have been so bad on the interior, like em
beat and all the opposing center numbers against Brooklyn and
this matchup have been really bad for the Nets. So
it's almost like Atkinson is like, what's the point then,
which just spread them out? I I saw you apologized
on Twitter because you didn't know that Amy Johnson's kid
was sick, But like, why do you have a cell
phone in your pocket on the bench? Sorry? I just like,

(46:58):
you know what I mean? I dead? And isn't that
all of this to me is a sign of a team,
which is it's just not it's not a championship caliber team.
Like I love Brett Brown, but he was not brought
in for this part of the job, right, He was
not brought He was brought into stabilized things to go
from awful to being good, not to being good for

(47:19):
being great, and so many of their players don't like
you know, even Ben Simmons response to the booing like
iven not for us beyond the other side, like what
are you doing? And but I do think that the
cell phone, although explainable, is is kind of the on
the micro part of the macro. No. Yeah, I I
almost want to take the apology back now, because it's
it's pretty clear that if Emir Johnson were fined the

(47:41):
way Brett Brown discussed the topic after the fact, that
they didn't like his reasoning for it almost feels like, Okay,
this is gonna be a huge deal. What do we do? So,
you know, I don't want to on social media or
a national radio show to day whether or not a
kid is sick. So I'm just gonna move on from it.
But there was just some weird stuff in the way
it was the reaction to it afterwards, like how did
he get fine if he has a legitimate excuse for

(48:01):
it as absurd as it is somebody having the cellphone.
But the Simmons commentary is more revealing about who this
team is and who he is than anybody else. Like
I've said now all season long, I've never seen the
group of stars in any sport be this outwardly miserable
about their plot life. I mean, some of these guys
are really bummed out all the time. And some of

(48:23):
that I think is directly linked to how sensitive everyone is.
Because it's just a different world. People are are more
aware of everything that's being said about him all the time.
But you know, Simmons has now played in his second year.
They should have lost that series in the Celtics a
year ago. That's a joke, that Celtics team was missing
the big guns and they losing five, and then everybody
trying to turn that Celtics team into some hero type team.

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The East was just awful last year and the Sixers
get bounced out that quick, and for Simmons to say, oh,
you know, stay on that side. Well, as far as
your playoffs success, you don't have any. You don't have any.
You beat the Heat last year in the first round.
So there's still doubt in a really tough town. And
it's just the way it works, man. I know it's
only one game, but a lot of the issues with

(49:04):
the Thunder came to a head right, they just Jimmy
Grant's given them nothing offensive. The team collectively can't shoot,
and Paul George isn't playing at that magic level that
he was before injury. I know, again, it's only one
game and all they have to do is win one
game in Portland to win this series. But does isn't
there some confirmation bias and what happened in Game one?
I just felt like they were going to have a

(49:26):
continuation what they did in the regular season. They swept
this trail Zers team, and then they lose Nurkic and Canner,
who in certain matchups you can't even have them out
on the floor. Turns into the m v p A
Game one, and this is back to my whole point
of you know what the team gonna look like, you know,
game the game, because I think there's gonna be a
moment where it looks like you can keep tea her

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out there despite how good is he. Like you knew
this Baucky the reason everybody wanted this guys because he's
a really skilled big man, which kind of put an
old school field to it, and rebounding was was great,
but the thunder specifically went at him in that pick
and roll. He still doesn't know what to do on it,
and it ended up the Portland survived. I'd ask you this, though,

(50:08):
can it screw up the team? Did you're write about
all the shooting stuff we can get to Paul George
and all that. This to me wasn't a bad Westbrook
game or Westbrook cost of the game. I actually thought
he was very in control at the very end of
the game and trying to figure out everybody going. But
if you are looking at one specific thing you're trying
to exploit, can that screw everybody up offensively? Even if
on paper it makes sense to attack Canner as much

(50:29):
as you can. Yes, it's all. It's long been my
thought that this is a It's actually a great discussion.
Ryan was solo joining us here on the Doug got
Lip Show. It's a great point to bring up, okay um.
I talked about this with college coaches often in terms
of going small. I said, look, one of the things
when you go small is is the other team becomes
so hyper focused on beating you on the boards and

(50:51):
throwing the ball in their posts that they stop everything
else that they're doing, and oftentimes it takes them away
from their actual identity as a team, that you translate
that to what the Thunder we're doing. That's the Thunder
aren't really a pick and roll team, right, They're just not.
And all they tried to do was exploit what they
thought was one mismatch on the floor, and it took

(51:12):
him out of everything else that they wanted to do.
So you're right that that's what happens when you think
and teams have done that with with Steph, where they
stop running their offense, they stopped doing all the other
things allowed to be successful because they come in with
the mindset of let's chase this one guy who helps
on offense but hurts you on defense off the floor,
and it actually becomes counterproductive. Yeah, I always think it's

(51:34):
kind of funny with people try to think they're just
gonna like work step for an entire Playoffs game defensively
when you go you know, I've never thought he was
as bad as everybody makes him out to be, because
he's at least aren't like I'd rather have a less
athletic smart guy on defense than a super athletic dump guy,
and I've seen plenty of both, and it's a it's

(51:54):
a good point about staff because I look at the
thunder now where I don't know what to make up
al Ge're just kind of like the MB thing. He's
clearly hurt. There's something going on there with the shoulder.
But then I look at the March numbers, and he
played thirty eight minutes a game and scored twenty six
and shot it for from three on ten attempts, and
the rebounding numbers were good. The guy played forty nine
minutes six games ago or six days ago, and he

(52:16):
still had big scoring numbers. So there's one thing to
not be loose and you know, have some bitenance stuff.
But he talked torn because after you know, every time
somebody who's a star has these really bad games, and
he had one, he's like, wow, you know, he's actually
really hurt. You know, I don't know, Stok get like
thirty games for a month and he played right up
by the end of the season. So what are we

(52:37):
talking about here? Because it wasn't like they were gonna
be in danger of missing out of the playoffs, and
they ran something for George where he had hit in
earlier three where he sort of walked into it, and
then they tried to run something for him and claimed
it and for unfortunately for me, Like I've seen George
Healthy play like that in the playoffs, and that will
be the problem for the Thunder if Westbrook decides Shrewder's zero.

(53:00):
I can't trust Paul George. Now, I'm gonna go beast
boat on this whole thing. And sometimes it works and
a lot of times it doesn't. Um, what about the seas,
I know they mean the Pacers don't That's kind of
what we expected, right, Pacers don't have their best score
and so the Pacers couldn't score. Um can can they
figure it out in time to get to an NBA finals?

(53:20):
That their talent many people believe should take them too.
I've watched the two games and for all to talk
about the talent and then the video or a bunch
of guys I don't know, maybe it was one or two,
but he said, we still don't see anybody beating the book.
Beat us four times, like I don't know, has won
forty nine games over the four seeds. Might have been
a fifth seed, but what peopot doesn' get hurt? So
game one when hid the way I thought it would.

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I was a little surprised that the Celtics weren't really
treating it like game or and the Pacers came out.
They were hot, they're angry, they're ready to go. And then,
like you said, through the Pacers starters, I believe, deep
into the second half had to combine two points like
they couldn't score. They had eight points in the third course.
Selfic tranastion on defense was good. And you know that

(54:03):
Kyrie is probably a top five shot maker in the
entire playoffs. And if everybody else is in sync, and
everybody else is playing good enough defense, and they do
have other outlets offensively, that should still on paper be enough.
But I watched six months of it not be enough,
and just when you thought they were figuring it out,
they'd have these devastating losses that didn't make any sense.

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The only thing that I would be if I want
to be super green teamer here, Doug, I go Jenyn
Brown's and better. In the second half, he just decided, screw,
I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm not gonna try to fit in,
and that's really the only way you can play because
everybody's trying to fit in around each other. They weren't
attacking ever, and Gordon Haywards looked better at the end
of the regular season, and I really like our coat.

(54:44):
The stats say, I liked his decisiveness, his aggressiveness. In
Game one, he got the board and then he decided
I've got the ball on makeing a decision where it
felt like whenever he came back and lost the starting
job that he didn't have that mindset at all. They
should smash the places. They should be this team whose
best player is probably Si Bonus, And I still don't
know what. I don't know what it will teach us

(55:06):
about them going up against Milwaukee, because we're gonna Milwaukee
up against Yeah, I know. Um, this is actually the
most important question I should ask, have you? Okay? I
tweeted out over the weekend that basketball myth is how
many ballplayers you know New York City actually produces? Right,
So Stephan Marbury tweets at me. Let me just make

(55:27):
sure I read this word for word. Um, Doug, do
you remember how dirty I used to do you in
front of your daddy? Okay? Um, Now, the truth is
that I never played against Steph at abc D, and
the only time I matched up with him, what well
it was that the Magic's Roundball Classic, and I simply
kept him to his left hand and made him shoot,

(55:48):
and he was like one of eleven. I gotta get
the exact stats. I don't want to. So the question
is do I respond to the and and give context
to my tweet which is accurate, which is New York
City actually doesn't produce a lot of players. Some of
it is economically based. You just nobody can live to
afford to live in New York City, you know, so
maybe they move elsewhere and it's just not a volume
of players from even the Tri State area in the league.

(56:10):
Or do I simply clap back at staff, you know,
with the actual stats from hey, we won by thirty
and you were like one of eleven with a bunch
of turnovers in an All Star game? Which should I
do the New York thing for him to say that,
like when he was coming out, I mean, I think
I was still a huge, big Daddy Kane fan. So
this is a long long time ago, and I'm always

(56:32):
weird somebody trying to do or whatever. You would see
something like this guy, this guy is a terrible writer,
and you'd be like, yeah, but you know he helped
choose your adventures like you just I don't I don't
understand some of these argument that's going to make that argument.
That's kind of funny, and I'm sure everybody loved it
because I've noticed a few times the basketball world on
Twitter they're not huge fans of some of your opinions.

(56:55):
So you've got to know that you're going into this
thing and people just gonna be dumping oil on the
top of you from from like a castle Game of
Throne style. I would go back at him, though, because
just make sure you find the stats. Make sure you
have the stats locked in perfectly, because if you get
it wrong, somebody else is gonna find it and you
can say, hey, look, reality is this. Look at the
top one hundred recruits. How many coming out of New

(57:15):
York City? Not that many? You were awesome stuff, but
you know what you didn't work because here are the
stats from our game when we beat you by thirty.
But you know what's gonna happen is people are still
gonna kill you and make fun of your free throws.
So I don't know what to do there. Yeah, whatever,
he's he's got listen, he's got a basketball museum in China,
so He's clearly winning on this one. Um, Ryan was Silo,

(57:36):
the podcast, The Ryan Silo Show and The Dual Threat
with Ryan Silo. Still have not got the invite to
hang out at the Place Will Spread in Manhattan, beach. Um,
I'd listen. I'd like go buy it every day. No
one ever says, Hey, stopped by Phiabia and we can
watch the Celtics play, you know, the Red Sox play.
But anyway, Alas, thanks to that accents. While you haven't
any terrible you know how it works. Now that I've

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moved to l A, nobody visits anybody, so I'm just
trying to fit in. Thanks, Thanks for blowing me off. Ryan. Still, thanks,
that did kind of feel like an interview, and it
shouldn't have felt like an interview. Should have felt like
a conversation. Army cantan joy as the show coming next.
He wrote an incredible book about Tiger Woods. What emotions
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writes for The Athletic. His book Tiger Woods is the

(59:02):
New York Times number one bestseller. And this, of course
is less than twenty four hours, so actually is about
twenty four hours after Tiger Woods won his fifteenth major
and one is green another green jacket twenty two years
after winning his first winning in augusta National Yesterday, The
Masters a tradition unlike any other. Um Armand joins us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Arm And I'm just wondering,

(59:24):
as a guy who wrote that book, what was your
reaction to watching him over the weekend. Oh, I was
just Uh, I was riveted. I mean it was epic. Um.
I was rooting for him as hard as anybody else was,
because I mean that's that's I mean I called sporting theater.
I don't think it does a justice. It was just
a it was just a monumental day in sports, and

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it was like a fairy tale come true. It was
really hard to believe when all the things were starting
to line up late late in uh the afternoon there
or the middle of the afternoon, that that dic was
gonna happen. And so I was, I mean, I was riveted.
I I just couldn't take my eyes off the screen
for about six hours. Um. For for people who missed

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your miss your book about Tiger Woods, which delves so
much in his background and even even as his father's
how his father's relationship with his mother, Um, how much significance,
um is all of the off the court stuff and
then and the embrace with his son into kind of

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America somehow embracing Tiger Woods when he pushed us away
for so long. Well, it's it's almost like it's it
is two different tigers. Dug it. There's that there was
the machine that was created or programmed by Earl and Tita.
And we always said, in order, as you reference, in
order to understand Tiger, you had to understand Earl and Tita.

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And Earl was the one who provided and really supplied
the love of the game, and the love of prac
this and the and sort of the artistic side of Tiger,
and Tita was the one who provided the killer instinct.
And she was the one that said to him, you know,
you have to take their heart. You have to step
on their throat and not let them up. And when

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you beat them, you beat them in a way that
they'll never forget. So that combination created, um, what we
all witnessed beginning, you know, really when he won his
first of three US Amateurs and and certainly ninety seven
at the Masters, and Tiger made and everything else that followed,
and all the you know, the the incredible performances, the

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dominant performances that he put on. But that was the machine.
And what we saw yesterday was the man of very
different Tiger woods um. And it's been coming now since
really May of seventeen, when it's hard to believe that
was less than two years ago when he found himself
on the side of the road in Florida, thinking he

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was in California system was full of a rock star
cocktail of of drugs to deal with all the pain
in his back. And then nobody thought. You would have
had to have been a genius beyond a genius to
think he was ever coming back from that. But he
did come back as a different person and more and
more appreciative and more grateful, less entitled, more empathetic, a

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more human being. And that that's the person we saw yesterday.
Um still a you know, a killer on the course,
but at hug the emotion that he showed, um hug
with Charlie, which you know you couldn't help but think
I and I was looking at it, and oh my god,
that's all over again. That's Earl saying the Tiger, um,

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I love your son and giving him a hug for
the ages. And then Tiger doing the same thing with Charlie,
and then Seem and then Tita and then his girlfriend Erica. UM,
and then that reaction that we all saw from the
other players, which was most otherworldly, um in in competitive sports.
So UM, you know he's he's a he's a change man,

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and um, he's a change man. For the better because
of the person. As much as we were all in
awe of what he accomplished. Um, he was a proundly unhappy, um,
unhappy man during those during those years. I think now, um,
he's found himself physically, he's found himself emotionally, spiritually, he's

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come full circle, as he said, with with what we
witnessed at the after winning the Masters. And you know,
God bless him because it's been he's lived two or
three lifetimes to get to this point you've experienced. Um.
You know, you've covered so many different stories, UM, a
lot of sports, sometimes not sports. So I'm just wondering,
from the sports landscape, can you think of a better

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comeback of personal personal comeback like because because there there
are person there are you know, guys coming back from
drug use, there are guys coming back from ugly other
personal stories. There are guy is coming back from injuries.
This is all of them, right yeah, and then some
I mean, think of what he lost. We lost his
He lost his marriage, he lost his reputation, he lost

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his health, he lost most of his sponsors, he lost
his swing. He went through rehab twice, once for sex addiction,
another time for drug addiction. Um. I mean, he fell
from the highest peaks to the lowest depths, and nobody
that I can remember, has ever crawled out of that hole,

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let alone crawled out of it, you know, into the
light the way that he did. And and then it
comp I mean, if he could just walk, it would
have been a miracle. Let Alone what we watched yesterday
where he wins the most prestigious tournament in golf. I mean,
I I can't think of anything that even gets remotely

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close to this. And it's redemption on a scale that
I have never seen. And it and it's done in
a way not just by by a triumph, but it
was a different kind of triumph for Tiger. It was
the triumph of a different kind of a human spirit.
And that I think that's where this connection is now
with the fans that was never there before. It was

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always oh my god, I'm watching a genius. But don't
you dare get too close to me. This is a
man that has found joy in a connection with with
people that he's never had before. And it's just it's
just remarkable to watch Doug Gotlich show here on Fox
Sport Trader, that's the voice of armand contained, of course,
is the number one best seller New York Times number

(01:05:37):
one bestseller Tiger Woods. Uh. This is fresh off of
Tiger Woods winning his fifteen major. Um, if he doesn't
beat Jack doesn't matter now, right, Like simply winning fifteen,
considering what he's been through, might actually be enough. But
do you think it actually is enough? It's enough for me,

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I mean, I got I hope it's enough for him,
But UM, I don't know if it's enough for America.
I mean I it wasn't even probably, you know, twenty
minutes after he won, and everybody, not everybody, but certainly
the question came up again. You know, are you now
in a position to take Jack's record? Um, I'm telling
you I don't. I don't think it's that. It's always

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been something that that has been from the outside end.
Tyger always his his goal was to always be first,
was to beat Jack. In terms of um, I want
to be younger to win a US Open, or I
want to be younger to win the US Amateur. I
want to be younger, the first, you know, the youngest
to win the Masters. It was always about being first.
It wasn't about necessarily beating Jack's overall records. And I

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mean at this point in time, I I can't think
of a you know, I mean you're out there in Hollywood.
I mean, is there a better ending than this? I?
I so he what he passes Jack and he wins nineteen.
If there's something that's better than what I watched yesterday,
I'll be glad to see it. But I don't. I
don't see that coming down the pie any time soon. Uh.
It is absolutely fascinating. Watched you You you mentioned how

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much different he is as a person, but many of
us in the outside world didn't know that he was
a bad guy to begin with. Is this real? Is
this the real Tiger? Woods? Are we simply kind of
another kind of concocted image that we're able to kind
of buy into, like says all the right humble things.
But the real Tiger is the Tiger we once knew before. Well,

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I don't think we're all we're ever going to get
the definitive answer to that, because he's he's so tightly controlled.
That inner circle of his is extremely small, and and
his image is controlled it. You know, if Tiger is
going to do something, Tiger is going to benefit from it.
He's going to have complete control of it, and it's

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going to be to his advantage. UM. That being said, Uh,
you know, I've spent a lot of my last three
years of my life watching him in various situations. UM
sometimes when I shut or at what I witnessed in
terms of his um just lack of grace and ingratitude
with people. UM, I don't see that in him now.

(01:08:09):
I don't. And the thing is that it's not just me,
it's guys that are around him. It's like Ricky Fowler
and Justin Thomas who are have become very close to him,
who Ricky said yesterday he goes, you know, the tunnel
vision is gone. There's there's a gratitude, there's a um
there's an appreciation to him with life now that he
never had before. UM. So I'm going to take their

(01:08:32):
word for it because I think they're in a position
to to see the false floors and things like that,
and I just don't. I don't see how it's possible.
I can see how you could be a jerk, because
that's that's a pretty easy um uh piece of armor
to put on. But to to to see what we

(01:08:55):
saw yesterday and witness what we saw yesterday, which was
so real and so emotional. I don't think there's any
falsity to that at all. Great tough, arm And, contained
pick up the book. It's called Tiger Woods the New
York Times. I'm one best seller. And of course he's
been doing this for years. Armand, thanks so much for
joining us. Really appreciated. Thanks for asking me, But pleasure
is all mine. That book is outstanding. You should pick

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it up. It tells you the whole story of Earl
and Tita and and I mean you'll just be kind
of blown away by some of the backstory. No reason
for me to give away cliff notes. Uh, let's get
to let's get ties of glowing cron Isaac, what do
you got to like? A short time ago, Luke Walton
officially introduced as the new head coach of the Sacramento

(01:09:36):
Kings in a news conference at the team's practice facility.
I'm excited about it, and I've said it. I'm you know, Uh,
I'm forever grateful to Genie and the bus family. We
love l A. My family loves l A. But we
are very excited about this opportunity. We are thrilled about it.
NFL Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz said today that he is
not yet fully recovered from the stress fracture in his back,

(01:09:59):
but still helps to participate in o t a s
coming up in May. College hoops. Gonzaga's Ruey Hatchie Murra
declared for the NBA Draft, as did national champion Virginia
guards Tie Jerome and DeAndre Hunter, And finally, Marquette brothers
Sam and Joey Hauser announced today that they are transferring

(01:10:19):
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that news out of Marquette is not good stuff. Considering
I would have made the argument, if everybody returns Colleen
Marcus Howard for a senior season, like that's a top five,
top ten team. Houser Boys are that good? Stevens Point, Wisconsin,
the working rumors they're going to go to Virginia, who

(01:11:05):
of course lost Hi Jerome and they'll lose DeAndre Hunter
as well. But the Housing boys have to sit a year,
sit sit one and one will play one. Although he
might graduate the older brother, the younger brother is the better,
more talented. But that's oh, here's the two good ball players.
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something that was said on Fox Sports one on Fox

(01:12:07):
Sports Radio that we want to comment on. We call
it and now Nick Ryan has show First Things First,
it's during the morning on Fox Sports One. He said
this about this year's Houston Rockets. I think, to get
back to your original question, I think this Rockets seems
better than last year's team. Just for the record, I
think they are because in the playoffs last year, once

(01:12:27):
the Rockets lost mobam Mute, they were down to essentially
seven guys they could play. They played their starters, they
played Gerald Green, and they were and they were on
six and half seven man rotation in those games. Now
they have Daniel House, they have Austin Rivers, they have
Kenneth Free to go along with Gerald Green coming off
the bench. They got nine guys that they feel comfortable
with Nana if he gets back into the rotation. They

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don't need in these games for Harden to play forty minutes.
They can. They can rely on their bench more. And
I think defensively what they've been post All Star Break
is far more likely to what they'll be in the
playoffs than what they were the first half of those
other guys too, they have they don't have a whole
bunch of playoff experience, So when the bright lights hit them,
how do those guys play? Look part of it is

(01:13:12):
we're judging through a lens of one playoff game when
he's talking about depth and last year's team was better.
If Chris Paul was healthy, they might have gone to
an NBA Finals and might have beaten the Golden State Warriors,
right like, we would all agree with that, And they
had Trevor reason their starting lineup was better. Uh, you
can sit here and tell me that Austin Rivers is great,

(01:13:35):
but how is Austin Rivers gonna play in a big game?
And will he make shots? And will they depend upon him?
His last year's team was really really well built, very
well constructed, and they were they were able to put
multiple bodies on Kevin Durant. I do think it's really
interesting that whether it's social media or the fact that

(01:13:57):
he's seven feet tall, or of the fact that he
left the Oklahoma City Thunder, whatever it is, we are
kind of getting around the point. And the point is
Durant's the best player in the game. It's not really
all that close. Harden is an unbelievable score, but it

(01:14:18):
takes him so many possessions and so many dribbles and
so many you know, mismatches in order to get what
he needs to get. Or as Durant, though he doesn't
score as much, has the ball far less. No, No,
I think the whole thing is fascinating. But I'm gonna
disagree with Nick. Right. Um, one of the things is
the West isn't as good as it was last year.

(01:14:39):
It just isn't. And some that's because of injury. Right,
Portland doesn't have Nurkics, They're not as good. Um. I
think Golden State is different. I mean, if you watch
that game, they were the the l A Clippers. We're
trying to go at de Marcus Cousins because it makes
them worse defensively. But I don't think anybody in the

(01:15:02):
league thinks that Houston is close to what they were
last year because of their fit around Harden. Do they
have other guys that you might like, sure, sure, but
stop if you're going with Daniel House is somehow going
to make them a better team they were last year
when they had Trevor Reza. You know, is a shell
of his former self. They beat the Utah Jazz, who

(01:15:27):
played poorly and aren't as good as they were last
year when they matched up with the l A Clippers.
Last year's team, if Chris Paul was healthy, likely goes
to an NBA finals. They just do this year's team,
that would be a supreme surprise by comparison. You look
at you want to say something in ry music. I

(01:15:49):
just have a question for you about the seventies six
years there um from what you've seen, I know that
it seems like Jimmy Butler's stock fell considered league during
the regular season and it's only been one game. Who
will you know, there's a ton to play out, especially tonight,
but does it seem like the way he's playing in
the playoffs can sort of give you confidence that he

(01:16:11):
is sort of back in that tier of impact players
that maybe could fit well with the Lakers in the
off season. Who Jimmy Butler. I think both would be
settling for each other, to be honest with you, like
I don't think they. I don't think he was top
seven or eight in terms of their desire, but he's
probably going to be the best guy that would take

(01:16:34):
all of their money, whereas I'm not sure he's a
max contract guy for a lot of other people. You know,
It's like, Okay, I don't think the Knicks, he's not
tops in the Knicks list. The Nets don't want him.
He wants to be in a big city. The Clippers,
he's not their first choice. With the Clippers, right, they
want Kauai and maybe k d. You know, they want

(01:16:55):
guys that can get stops and be shot makers, and
he's he's a very good play He's just not at
those guys level. And then he's a bit of a
different guy, a bit of a different guy. Now he
may be just what the Phillies philapphas seventy six years
need in terms of his toughness and leadership. And we'll
see if it can take over in in this series. Um,

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but I think they would both be settling. So what
you're saying is the Lakers aren't anywhere near his top
choices either when you say it's settling for each other,
because clearly the Lakers would be settling because they want
to go. I don't think he wants to. I don't think,
you know, like if he he woke up and said
I want to play with Lebron. I think he originally
wanted to play for the Clippers, but I think the
Clippers will be like, yeah, we'll think about it. And

(01:17:37):
I think the next same thing, like the nixt one
k D and then a point guard and they love
to get Zion, you know, or they take an R. J. Barrett,
but I I you know, somebody's gonna take him and settle,
which is it's fine. It's It's a lot like recruiting
in college sports. Not everybody can get the top ten guys.
It doesn't mean you can't be successful with those guys.

(01:17:58):
You gotta build a team. But like, look, there's a
do I think this will help his rep. Let's see
what happens the rest of this series. Let's see what
happens the rest of the series. I would say this, like, look,
it doesn't help your rep when if you're on your
third team and none of those three teams want you. Right,
Jimmy Butler is a takes a car service, goes the

(01:18:19):
arena by himself sort of guy. He thinks to himself
as the best player on the team, even though he's best.
When he's the third best player on your team, would
you want Jimmy Butler team, Yeah, you still want him
on your team. You just want to be reasonable, Like,
if you think he's gonna win games on his own,
give him the ball and he'll get you thirty that
ain't really him. If you think that he's gonna lead

(01:18:40):
a team that ain't him. But having toughness, being able
to play both ends of the floor get you twenty
a night as your third best player, that's him, and
maybe you overpay a little bit for that. And if
you're reasonable about that, I think I think it could
absolutely work. If he's the third best guy on the Lakers,

(01:19:00):
that would be great. I just don't know how he'd
handle that. Uh all right, Coming up next, we'll decide
whether or not how I should clap back at Stefon Marbury.
That's a big thing because I just really kind of
in my brain now, because I mean, like I can
really smack back and I'm not even disputing the fact
that he was a better, more talented basketball player than

(01:19:20):
than I was. But that's what happens when you in
his mind, talked about about his entire city and you
eat vaseline, right, it kind of wrecks your brain to
where you you personalize things that are said on Twitter
about a place you grew up. Um, I'll tell you
where that called kind of all came from. But coming
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(01:20:10):
to get to Tiger Woods in a second. First, I
want to I want to have a little remembrance here
if we could little remembrance for John McLeod. John McLeod's
former NBA head coach and college head coach, coached the

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University of Oklahoma from sixties seven to seventy three. Coach
the Phoenix Suns for fourteen years from sight seven, including
the NBA Finals what's considered the greatest game of all time.
That was in nineteen seventy six, when four overtime game
against the Boston Celtics. He coached the Dallas Mavericks, He

(01:20:51):
coached New York Knicks. He coached me at Notre Dame,
and he passed away yesterday at the age of eighty
one years old. And I just look, you may not
remember him. I do, And I note we we operate
in this in this space thinking all college coaches are

(01:21:15):
on some level liars, They are dishonest. They were like
we we we do that about Congress people, don't we
Like if somebody says like I'm in Congress, you automatically
think there's something crook. I there are good Congress people.
There are good coaches. John McLeod called me many years ago.
Is that is that twenty five years ago? Damn? So

(01:21:39):
years ago this summer, John McLeod called me. I just
got back from the prestigious A B C. D Camp
and I had I had done something what's called I
blew up. And when you blow up is when you
perform really well and everybody offers you a scholarship. So

(01:22:03):
I get home and the first phone call I got
was from John McCleod. Doggy tomorrow, we're gonna announce that
not youre Dame, We're going to the Big East Conference,
compete against Syracuse and Georgetown and Yukon and St. John's
and Villanova. You like the Big East, Douga coach, I

(01:22:26):
like the Big East. I watch it every Monday night.
You hear me, my point guard, you come to note
youre Dame. We'll start you at the point your freshman year.
You'll get the best education, the best basketball, get a
chance to play against the best teams in the country.
And all I could think about was, hey, coach, come

(01:22:46):
on a visit to see a football game. So I
went to Notre Dame versus Michigan in the fall. Go
back and look it up. This is Ron Poulis's second
game as starting quarterback. Michigan won on a game winning
field goal that Notre Dame Stadium, and uh I remember
the night before Lou Holtz came in before the press

(01:23:09):
conference and said, uh I gott leave test in high school,
saying California great, great play play for Andy Grams. Unbelievable. Coach. Listen,
Coach McCloud has told me all about you that they
need to point out your worst way. And you know,
you know we're going to Big East. And I think
you did. You love it here in South Bend. It
lots of domes in southern California, especially in Orange County,

(01:23:31):
and you know you should really think about making this
place your home. And I was like, coach McLeod, you
got coach Holtz knows my name. I know more your name.
See that's seen you played, show me, show me tape
about Now I gotta go out and do the pest
conference tomorrow. We gotta played Michigan. See what happened? So

(01:23:52):
I signed a scholarship to go to another Dame and
um our first day on campus, he called all the
fresh been in and he drew what I thought was
gonna be a diagram of a play. Instead it was
like a amphitheater for like like a class Notre Dame

(01:24:14):
this year, we're gonna reel in the big fish. But
if you don't do the school work, can't do the
hard work. So he circled the first two rows and
he says, we're gonna check on your class. If you
don't sit in the first two rows, you're suspending from
the team. And he asked us to do all the

(01:24:34):
little things that people believe college coaches don't ask you
to do. We had to go to class. A matter
of fact, we could miss any practice, any team function,
if it was for studying or for study hall, to
meet with a tutor or to meet extra time with
just hey, coach, I got a class thing. Go um
he would No one was allowed to leave a room

(01:24:57):
after dinner unless everybody's chair was tucked in. We always
had to wear coat and tie on the road. And
a matter of fact, we played at Syracuse last game
of the year and guys got caught not wearing coats
and ties and we all ran. We all had to
run conditioning because a couple of guys didn't put their
shirt in time. He didn't raise his voice to us,

(01:25:19):
probably not enough. Instead, you'd have a red blinking light
on your dorm room. It would be a message from
his secretary when you come down to see coach, and
he politely asked you to close the door, ask if
you wanted some water, some gatorade, something else to drink,
and then you'd lay India pretty good, but never in
front of the team. He between the way he dressed,
how his hair was always combed. The guy even smelled good.

(01:25:42):
I mean, he's the classiest dude I have ever met,
let alone and ever even played for. And it hurts
me because when I got in trouble Notre Dame, it's
probably why I got fired. He got fired that would
have been at the end of my senior year. You
lose your point guard and middle of the summer you
invest a bunch of him. I'm a freshman starting point guard.

(01:26:03):
It's hard to recruit anybody behind you. And then my
high school teammate came the next year and he left.
He wouldn't have left. Had I stayed, we would have
made an n C a terman. He would would have
had his job of Notre Dame. But when they remember,
when you remember to when you read online or you
see it mentioned somewhere. John McLeod, famous coach Sons coach

(01:26:25):
you know, had over five wins. When you when you
think about John McCloud, just think that God Lee said
he's the classiest dude he'd ever met in basketball bar
None doesn't mean there aren't other classy dudes. I've never
been anybody like John John McLoud and I have a
note that I'm gonna post on social media. He actually
wrote my mom and dad in months after he got fired,

(01:26:47):
congratulating me on my success at Oklahoma Stake. Who does
that incredible penmanship. By the way, all right, let's get
to what we saw last night. My Lou Holtz is
pretty good there, right, that's very It's people like, damn,
you do a good host. Yes, I do a good

(01:27:09):
new host. Okay, now it's saying about you hostes everywhere
she's gone when he's after he's been on probation with
the exception of ESPN, but outside of that, he's an
unbelievable public speaker. Unbelievable. Anyway, I was, I was, I
was trying to figure out. Rick Riley was in studio

(01:27:30):
last Friday, and remember Rick Riley was like, I'm not
cheering for Tiger you know, cheating on his wife, mean
that you know that bad tipper. I mean he basically
broke down chapter and verse of he almost might Will
said Tiger Woods has bad breath, bad personal hygiene, bad dude. Right,
That's basically what he went to. And the reality is

(01:27:51):
we probably shouldn't cheer for Tiger Woods. So many of
his issues we're brought on by himself, his ego, his
his ego, like even his body breaking down because he
wanted to play soldier or and he wanted to become
a Navy seal and he wanted to do this training

(01:28:11):
which had nothing to do with golf. Or he wanted
to switch change swing coaches because he thought that each
swing coach was getting too much credit for his success.
Whatever it is, Tiger Woods, these were self inflicted wounds,
which anybody's ever suffered them the most painful of any wounds.

(01:28:35):
But we do. We cheered for him, We loved him.
We cried when he I know people that cried when
he won yesterday. Maybe it's because the embraced with his son.
Maybe it's because you can't believe what you just saw.
What you just saw. It wasn't just that he won
the Masters and one of the Masters when other dudes
were playing well, like outside of his group, those other

(01:28:57):
guys were playing well. Everybody else didn't spit up all
over themselves, and he came from behind, which he never
used to do. He was always the greatest front runner
in the history of sports. Nobody would ever be able
to take down Tag when he had a lead at
the end of of a fifty four holes. This one,
he didn't have the lead. And I was thinking about

(01:29:20):
a scene on mad Men when Don Draper kind of
broke down the difference between new and nostalgia. And it's
interesting because what's new is hot, what's new is fresh,
like the golf boys like. Those guys are fun. Those
guys are cool. They hit it about even Brooks Kepka, like,
who does it like brooks Kepca. He hits it a mile.

(01:29:41):
He's in shape, he's got a good name. He did
kind of have like should have pop that zip that
was on the left size of face. That was a
little weird. But Brooks is new and knew is fun.
New is engaging. And Brooks doesn't have that ugly baggage
of Tiger Woods. We don't even know about his love life.
We don't know. But he doesn't have surgeries, he doesn't

(01:30:02):
have excuses, he doesn't have sponsors dropping him right. I mean,
Dustin Johnson has had his own personal demons, but even
he is newer than Tiger Tigers forty three. Balding looks
completely weathered in comparison to how he used to look

(01:30:22):
when he first won the Masters. He ticked off a
lot of people, He lost a lot of sponsorships. People
don't believe that he is what he's prepared portrayed to
be now. But you know what, watching him win only

(01:30:42):
makes what Don Draper said in a pitch meeting with
Kodak in Madmen even more correct. Technology is a glittering lure.
But there's the rare occasion when the public can be
engaged on a level beyond flash, if they have a

(01:31:02):
sentimental bond with the product. My first job, I was
in house at a fur company with his old pro
copywriter Greek named Teddy, and Teddy told me the most
important idea in advertising is new creates an itch. You
simply put your product in there as a kind of

(01:31:23):
calamine lotion. But he also talked about a deeper bond
with the product nostalgia. It's delicate but potent. Doug Gottlib Show,
You're on Fox Sports Radio. It's delicate but potent. It's
delicate because hey, he's not without flaw. And as much

(01:31:44):
as you sit there and you say, well, there's the
embrace with his son, and then you start to think
Ellen's not there right, Or then you see the embraced
with his mother and you realize is the riff between
his mother and his late father, And you think about

(01:32:05):
the sponsors that bag dot him and I look. Even
when I saw that they were changing the format of
the instead of having finals pairings, they moved it up
and they had threesomes, right, Tiger and threesomes the punch
lines right themselves. You're like, look, I could go low
hanging fruit here. Nostalgia is delicate, but it is an

(01:32:30):
incredibly powerful emotion, so powerful in fact, that even the
most ardent Tiger hater was like, right, I mean, it's
it's it's one of those Derek Jeter tip of the
Remember the Derrek Jeter commercial with the little kid tips

(01:32:52):
to cap of respect. You don't have to like Tiger Woods.
You don't have to like the way he acted or
how he treated people. You don't know how he treats people. Now.
You can only go by his word and some of
what you see as his actions. But even that we
don't really know. But you know what that you don't

(01:33:15):
You don't understand how powerful the sunlight is until you've
been buried dark in a barrel. And that dude was right. Drugs, women, injuries,
trappings of fame, inability to find oneself and to find

(01:33:36):
oneself within their chosen profession. He was a mess, and
yesterday he won the most prestigious golf tournament on Earth Attree,
coming from behind, playing well against a loaded field who
also played well. Pretty phenomenal stuff. Fred Hoiberg joins the

(01:34:01):
show up coming next, He's new head coach in Nebraska.
Why Nebraska? And how do you win where they will
never won an NCA tournament game. We'll ask him next
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rolls on Fred Hoiberg, of course, hading coach before when
he go over Iowa State and immediately made them relevant
and got them back to the n c A Tournament.
Then he left for the Chicago Bulls job, and after

(01:35:08):
losing that job, he became the hottest free agent on
the coaching market and decided to go to Nebraska. Now
there's a bunch of things you don't know first about
Nebraska basketball. One, they might have the best facilities in
the country, new arena, unbelievable practice so Two, Um, they've
actually never won an n c A tournament game. And

(01:35:28):
then three, Fred Hoiberg's grandpa was the head coach at Nebraska.
So even though he's synonymous with Iowa State because he's
the mayor names Iowa, he actually has just as many
of not more family ties in Nebraska. Fred Hoiberg joins
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,

(01:35:49):
what what was this free agency period like for you?
Where your name was rumored in so many jobs and
we all know that reality does not necessarily fit the
rumors that you hear. Well, yeah was the first of all.
Thanks for having me on Doug. I Um, you know
it was. It was a crazy process after things, you
know how they went down to Chicago and you know,
I was thinking about every different scenario that could possibly

(01:36:12):
happen with my life after that went down, you know,
one of them. You know, the first thing was maybe
taking a year and sitting out and you know, recharging
and seeing what else opened up at all different levels,
and you know, just kind of time went on. You know,
I was let go in early December and did have
a chance to recharge, and really, you know, when I started,

(01:36:34):
uh you know, getting the itch again was when I
started going up and I spent a lot of time
up in East Lansing. My son was a walk on
for coaches. Oh and I would go up there, and
you know, for me, it was better to watch the
practices because my son had a big role with the
scout team and playing the other team's point guard. So
to get up there and you know it coaches it
was great. We'd sit in his office and uh sit
down and watch film and go on the whiteboard and

(01:36:55):
start writing down plays and uh, you know, just really
pick his brain. Not a lot of things. And then
when I did started going to the games and following
Nancy double a tournament, That's what really got me going again,
thinking that, you know, I really want to get back
in this thing. And uh, you know I did talk
to a couple of different teams. Uh, you know, the
one thing that was very attractive to beat to me
about this Nebraska job, and you just said the best

(01:37:17):
was the facilities. And you know, when I was in
Chicago a couple of years ago, we played a preseason
game at Pinnacle Bank Arena and it just blew me away.
You know, that's as nice in college arena as there
is in all college basketball. And when we were here,
we toured the facilities and you know, to see the
practice facility that we have in the training table, which
I've gotten to know, you know, as I started talking

(01:37:38):
about the job and the way they feed their athletes
and the way they take care of them. Uh. Plus
my family ties and you know, not just my grandfather
coaching here, but my other grandfather was a history professor
here for over thirty years. My parents both went to Nebraska.
My dad got his PhD back in nineteen seventy two
and moved our family to ames Uh in nineteen seventy four.
So I was actually born in Lincoln and then still

(01:38:00):
have a lot of family over in this area. So
you know, there were a lot of attractive things. And
I think with the facilities that we have and the
crowd support, you know, you look at the spring game, Doug.
This last weekend, there was a ninety thousand people at
their spring game, which is basically a scrimmage, and uh,
you know, you see the fans of every uh ticket
is sold out already for our arena next season. So

(01:38:22):
when you couple the facilities with the support, uh, you know,
I think we have a chance to uh you know,
to get this thing going. And and uh, you know,
Tim Miles did an excellent job. I think, you know,
if we can build on some of the things that
he did, uh you know, and hopefully win consistently and
get into the n S A Double A tournament, and
you know, hopefully have a chance to compete for championships.
Why college instead of pro? Great question? You know again,

(01:38:45):
that was something that I wrestled over and uh, you know,
I I loved everything about my my time in Chicago.
It was, uh you know, made me a better coach,
There's no doubt about that. I got a chance to
coach some unbelievable players, some Hall of famers, and uh
you know, it was something where I thought, maybe I
looked to get back in, But when I looked at
some things that may happen, what might open up. Uh,

(01:39:07):
you know, I thought that this opportunity here in Nebraska
was just one that I didn't want to pass up on.
And and again, hopefully I'm here for a long time
and we can get winning consistently. However, joining us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trader, you mentioned
sitting out for a year. Um, you know, some of
that is cathartic, some of that does recharge. But I
almost feel like the way it went down in Chicago

(01:39:29):
did kind of allow you that the half year. The
half year is almost better, right because, um, like maybe
the memories aren't that far removed. You haven't missed much.
You're still a name. But yet you got Christmas at home,
you got to see your kid play and go to
a Final four, and you've got enough time to kind
of come up to speed. Like, what what is that

(01:39:50):
period like where you've been either as a player or
in the front office with Minnesota or then a coach
for your entire professional life and now of a sudden,
you you kind of got no team to coach or
be around and you have, you know, three or four
months off. What's that period of time like, well, you know,
at first it was it was very difficult. I uh,

(01:40:11):
you know, it took me some time to get over
what had happened. And you know, it's right around the holidays,
and you know, once I got through that, my wife
and I took a vacation, went down to uh to
the Caribbean, and you know, really just kinda it was
my first time I just really unwound. You know, I
was having trouble sleeping after it went down, and you know,
I just uh, you know a lot of things went

(01:40:32):
through my mind. What could I have done better? You
reflect on things, you know, what are things I will
be differently the next time I get an opportunity. Uh.
You know, once I got through that period and got
through the holidays and and took that trip with my wife,
I really was able to start thinking about, Okay, what
do I want to do. And you know the first
thing for me, you know, I've never had, you know,
the opportunity go out and see I've got twins that

(01:40:53):
were sophomores this year, and to get out and see
them play every game and go spend time with my
son and you know, my daughter who will graduate from
Kansas this may. Uh. You don't be able to spend
time with her, So that was really nice. I had
never had that time. I mean, I want to spring
break for the first time since my junior year of
high school, where we went down to McCallen, Texas and
spend time with my wife's grandmother's double white trailer. I

(01:41:14):
mean it was you know, it was a little better
this time for my kids. We got to go down
to the Dominican Republic. But you know, I just kind
of found myself, Doug. You know, I'd go to you know,
I said this, I'd go to yoga with my wife
and her friends and then we go drink coffee, and
then I'd go home and I'd watched game shows and
that's what it was. And I just got I got
to the point where I was getting a little bored.
But it was kind of funny because you know, it

(01:41:35):
was some days. I'm not gonna lie to you, it
was nice. I talked to, you know, coaching friend and
he was miserable. They're just going through a tough stretch
and he was calling me all piste off and he said,
what are you doing. I said, well, you know, to
be honest with you, I'm sitting at my dining room
table drinking coffee and doing a puzzle and watching a
game show. And you know that was kind of nice
for a while. But you know, again, once I got
into the tournament and I, you know, the strategy started

(01:41:58):
kicking and what would I do against this defense? You know,
what could I have done to try to maybe slow
a team down? Uh? You know, I got to the
point where I really wanted to get back in it,
and I'm thankful that I got this opportunity in Nebraska.
Um okay, there's a lot of important questions have come
from this discussion. First, no, no, because I I have
gotten the yoga thing as well. What yoga class specifically?

(01:42:18):
Do you like? Are you a sculpt guy? Would you do? Sup? Yeah?
We did the core power sculpt and it's as you know,
it's miserable. I mean, it's it's more torture than yoga.
And uh, you know, then again we do we go
go have go have coffee and unwined and home and
I take a nap hold on me. I got I
got a bunch of the ones, regular coffee, black coffee.
You espresso guy, do you what? What's what's your actual coffee?

(01:42:39):
If you're gonna buy fred hoiberg a cup of coffee?
What was your drink? I'm a black coffee guy, but
my wife got me onto these coconut milk latte's. But
I prefer that. I prefer the black hot and the
black coffee guy. Yeah, she has made you soft. That's
that's what you like, exactly, Like I listen when you're Lincoln.
Don't ever tell any of those guys, good coach, can
I buy? Like? Do you have am a coconut milk Clotte?

(01:43:01):
Don't don't tell anybody know. I'm back on the black coffee. Good.
I appreciate game shows. What's your favorite game show? Well,
so I would go and watch The Prices? Right was
was one? And and if I didn't go to yoga
that day, I would watch Let's Make a Deal. Before that, man,
I'm telling you would live in the life right there?
That is and and and I'm telling you these conversations

(01:43:23):
at the coffee shop were all centered around the real
housewives of whatever. So you know, we we we had
some serious discussions going on. No, my my wife actually
went out to dinner with a friend last week and
she's like, there's a they're filming real housewives there. I said,
I don't know anything about any of that. Let me
tell you, and that there's a there's an hour out
of my life I would I would love I would
love to have that. So now you know why I

(01:43:46):
went back to work. Um, you realize that in your
time away, everyone has pretty much stolen your idea of
about Iowa staying, Like, look, I was a transfer, we
had other transfers on my team, but your team's at
Iowa stating. Now, look, you did have some very good
fourth year George and Nang obviously a very good fourth
year players down in the NBA. So it wasn't that
you only recruited transfers, but you were able to benefit

(01:44:08):
from finding the right players in the right fit on
their second time around. Now everyone in college basketball seems
to be benefiting on transfers. How much has the landscape
changed during your time in the NBA? A lot? It's
that's that's kind of how we got it going at
Iowa State. You know that first year we did not
have a lot of players on scholarship, and you know,

(01:44:28):
the way that I felt we could get that thing
turned around was by trying to get the most talent
that we could, and that was through the transfer market,
I would I wouldn't have gotten my first year in coaching. Uh,
you know, the top fifty type players, top hundred players
for that matter. So you know, we took four high
level transfers that first year with Royce White, Chris bab
Chris Allen and uh and Anthony Booker, and you know,

(01:44:50):
we had actually a really good start that year. Deante
Garrett was a senior point guard and you know, he
led us to a thirteen and two start. We ended
up five on the season U. But what I saw
was every day I looked over that scout team and
they got me pretty excited about that following year. So
you know, we were able to build it up with
transfers and then we've got to go and that got us,
you know in the door with the George and Yanks

(01:45:11):
and the Monte Morrises and Matt thomas Is and Nas
Long and you know those types of players. We still
sprinkled in transfers, but we did it with a good
mix and had a couple of junior college players in
there as well. So you know, I feel that, you know,
we do have an opportunity here, and you know, we
had several players on campus this last week. Uh, in
all different types of uh, you know, a couple of transfers,

(01:45:33):
a couple of junior college players, and now we'll have
high school players coming in next week. But you know,
it is an opportunity for us, we feel, uh, you
know again to try to use that model that that
we had at Iowa State. Uh, you know, to try
to be successful here and hopefully do it for a
long time. UM. You mentioned your own father, you mentioned
your son, of course is at Michigan State. I'm wondering

(01:45:53):
as a father and I know you have some special connections.
Um in terms of the golf world. When you watch
Tiger we at the Master's yesterday, what what emotionally did
you feel? Oh? It was amazing. I mean it was
just it was so cool to see him walking down
eighteen when they're chanting his name, and to see him
share that moment with his kids and his mother. I

(01:46:13):
mean it was it was it was unbelievable. Um. You know,
I I my my son actually committed to play golf,
originally had a scholarship before he ended up deciding to
go play at Michigan State. But uh, it is something
that you share with your kids, you know, I've got
to My twins are both under a five handicap, and
you know, my other son to scraps. So you know,
it's such a cool moment to share with your kids

(01:46:35):
and with your family. Yeah, I don't like having my
son at the scratch califucking beat you. That doesn't sound
like a good time. I'm a I'm a distant fourth.
Uh okay, now here's part that I don't national audience
might not know. You got Doc Sadler do two things
that very few, very few coaches walk away from a
head coaching job. Now think it does happen with a
walk away from like a low major head coaching job

(01:46:57):
to be a high major assistant be he's the head
coach of Southern US and he walked away from that
job to be your assistant. But he used to be
the head coach at Nebraska and now he's your assistant coach.
How did that take place? You know what I I Doc?
Doc worked for me at Iowa, stayed and you know
I think it. Doc is one of the top defensive
coaches in the country. And you know he did something.

(01:47:18):
He's still unbelievably popular. Uh here at Nebraska and I
walked around with him at the spring game the other day,
and it was it was like I wasn't even there.
And you know, he's just such a uh you know,
he does a great job with the guys. He keeps
things white, and he did a heck of a job.
He went twenty games last year at Southern miss Uh
you know, he was just ready, uh you know, and
talking to him to you know, look at maybe having

(01:47:40):
a change if it was for the right situation. And
I'm thrilled to have him back on board. I'm really
happy with my staff, with with Matt Abdelmassi who came back.
He was with me all my years at Iowa stayed
even going back when I hired him with the Timberwolves,
armand Gates who came on last year. I've been very
impressed with him and his energy working the guys out
with lower that. Bobby Lewkes is another guy that I

(01:48:02):
brought back, and he was my first hire at Iowa State,
a guy that coach twelve years at the University of
Charlotte has some very successful season. So I'm really pleased
with my staff and uh, you know, I'm you know,
excited just again all the experience that we have and
and against some young younger guys that they can really
help with recruiting. Well, yeah, it should be phenomenal watch. Obviously,
everyone's exciting Lincoln, and if you're a basketball guy, we're

(01:48:24):
excited to see what new inventive offensive ways you found
uh to score the basketball, because everybody likes to copy
it and say, I saw Hoiberg run that, and I
always stated with the bulls and it's definitely gonna work.
Thanks so much for spending some time with us, and
welcome home to Lincoln. Yeah, thanks all, and I appreciate it.
That pleasures all mine. That's Fred Hoiberg, the mayor who
is now the mayor of Lincoln, Nebraska. In addition to Ames.

(01:48:47):
Let's get you guys to glow and cry and find
out what else is happening in the world of sports.
Isaac what he got, Doug. Speaking of coaches, a short
time ago, Luke Walton officially introduces the new head coach
of the Sacramento Kings. Well, I learned a lot, you know.
It's the best way to learn, in my opinions, experience,
and I had a lot of experiences always these last
three years, I feel much more, uh, you know, prepared

(01:49:07):
and advanced as a coach right now than I did
three years ago. In the NFL, Philadelphia Eagles QB Carson
Wentz said today that he has not yet fully recovered
from the stress fracture in his back that cut short
his twenty eight team season, but he still hopes to
be ready in time to participate in O T A
S in May. In baseball, the annual Patriots Day mattenee

(01:49:29):
at Fenway saw the Orioles defeat the Red Sox eight
to one, highlighted by this guy the as of Saturday,
over his last fifty four Chris Davis no longer and
the free to has swung out at drilled the deep
right field back yet goes and that ball is gone
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(01:49:51):
the call on w jay z So since breaking the
over fifty four, Davis is four for his last twelve
college jukes. Gonzaga's Ruey Hatchie Murra cleared for the NBA
Draft today, as did guards Tie Jerome and DeAndre Hunter
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(01:50:13):
They combined average twenty five for Marquette this past season,
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(01:50:55):
we'll see what the velostity is, right like the radar
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as uh, you know his his fastball has changed over
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(01:51:16):
in two thousand seven was hitting around nineties seven and
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last year was down around uh ninety mile so uh
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his rehab start, so most recent rehab start. So we'll

(01:51:36):
see what it is. If it's in the if it's
you know, low nineties. Last year he threw a hundred
and sixty one the third innings at a two point
seven three e r A. So not the same guy.
But as he evolves, he's more crafty, throws more breaking
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(01:51:58):
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(01:53:02):
me and my brother, uh some bonds that were I'm
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(01:53:25):
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I'm getting married. I have no money. I spent whatever
money I had, I spent on a wedding ring, and
like I live on it. I an money. So he's like,

(01:53:47):
trust me, Like I would get to that that bond
mommy money from Grandma. What bond money? Okay, So I
called the bond guy. I transfer. I don't know. It's
like three thousand dollars, like all my lively into this
one stock when by the time I bought it it
was at seventy three. I'm like, dude, he called me,
it was like fifty nine or eight. Now it's seventy three.
It's going to a hundred in town with a bullet

(01:54:08):
and now I'm cash it out and um now I'm
gonna be worth millions. Actually a couple of thousand dollars more.
But that's regardless of the point. I believe you can
still find it on the h on the NASDAC. It's
worth the couple of dollars. And so at this point
it's so embarrassing I've held on to it for twenty years,

(01:54:30):
because at some point it's gonna come back. Right, everything
comes back. Bell bottoms come back, long hair came back,
dyed hair, wigs kind of come back. Short shorts are
back in the NBA. Why can't Echelon see Like, look,
I'm pot committed to Achelon c right, Like, what's the

(01:54:51):
point Now? It's worth nothing, So it's worth nothing. It
costs me nothing to keep it. I'll just ride it
out until the thing goes to put and then maybe
eventually I write off the loss. That's been my feeling
with Tiger Wits, Like I always thought, like dude, Rudy
Tom Jonovian's never underestimate the heart of a champion. And
oh he's gonna be too old. Since when is anybody

(01:55:14):
too old to play golf? Can't be too drunk to fish,
can't be too old to play golf. These are written
in written, These are that's actually I believe. Never too
old to play golf is the twelfth commandment. The eleventh commandment.
People don't know this. The eleventh commandment is it's okay
to chicken with your fingers. See Moses had the tablets,
you only saw ten. There was an eleventh and a twelfth.

(01:55:37):
I believe the thirteenth is you cannot say we for
a team unless you played for that team. There's some
disputing the Hebrew text of that, though, I don't know.
Let's get to the press, the press. I think lowan crown.
What are you got going on the World sports A
Chelon c Bye bye, bye bye. Sorry about that. I

(01:55:59):
was on the on with my broker. That's not insider trading,
isn't not if I get bad information, not if we're
live on the radio. I guess all right. The New
England Patriots open their voluntary offseason workouts today Doug As expected,
Tom Brady was not there, but NFL media is Ian
Rapp report reports that Brady might bulk up over this

(01:56:21):
offseason from right from all protein. That's right from his
listed playing weight last year of two hundred and twenty
five pounds, so double the quantities of Keene Waugh and
Himalayan pink salt on the Brady household shopping line. First
of all, him and pink salt is amazing. Okay, don't
knock it till you try it there. Secondly, is it

(01:56:42):
affordable though? Uh, no idea. I don't know. I just
buy it, and thankfully I married into the thousands. I'm
a thousand air um. I believe this is my belief that, well,
you don't know about those older Look at the older
quarterbacks the last month of the season, Breeze, Rivers, Brady Um,

(01:57:05):
even Ben Roethlisberger, they all faded late in the year
and they're all trying to figure out how can I
maintain my strength and my size, and Brady obviously reacting
that trying to bulk up add more muscle. I personally
think you should have a backup that starts a game
or two in the middle of the season, give a
week or two off the load management they pull off
in the NBA, and you can time that with the

(01:57:29):
bye week, so you essentially have two bye weeks throughout
the course of the regular season. New Raiders receiver Antonio
Brown has reached a settlement. He was facing two lawsuits
from an April incident in South Florida when the allegedly
through furniture, including two vases and ottoman and other items

(01:57:50):
from the fourteenth floor balcony of an apartment complex at
the Mansions in Aqualina, nearly hitting a child and his
grandfather near the pool area. So the grandfather filed one
lawsuit on behalf of his grandson, and the owner of
the condo filed the lawsuit against Antonio Brown as well,

(01:58:10):
but both have been settled. And can you imagine if
he actually hit the grand set like that is just
you know, horrifying, horrifying from the fourteenth floor to boot elsewhere.
And if that's weight worse than fourteen floor right, like
you're you see like how fast part goes down. I'm
not I'm laughing because like that's the worst thing I've

(01:58:30):
ever dropped off of a fourteen flora. Were you aiming
for anything in particular? No, no, no, no, it's just
you know, like board in Vegas at a at a
basketball tournament type deal. No, there's I mean Lucy's Now,
those are fun furniture, not kind of crosses. The lawn
Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was absent for the start of
volunteer workouts, which is actually unusual for him, but head

(01:58:53):
coach Anthony Lynn said that instead of being at the
voluntary workouts, Rivers is on vacation in Florida with his
very very large family. Yeah, listen, the only thing I
asked Philip Rivers again he's another guy needs to take
time off, not I'm one of the things that all
these quarterbacks do is they throw every time they go
to camp. They throw so much, like you don't need

(01:59:14):
to throw that much. But um, look, I'm not gonna
tell him not to impregnate his wife again. But I
think she just had number nine like, come on you
and you got like you can't go double digits on
kids unless you're a dugger. Get out there and pressed
that the press. Isaac was laughing too hard. I think
it fun to be to the to the dugger. I

(01:59:34):
think it's pronounced douger, isn't it. Whatever it is, they
got the point, but it was the duggers. I don't know.
Maybe it's the douggers. I don't know. Um, all right,
Kershaw pitches tonight. I will have more NBA playoffs to
talk about. Tyra. Matthew joins us tomorrow. We'll see if
Russell Wilson gets the contract that he said, you gotta
give me the contract by tonight, unless, of course, two

(01:59:56):
weeks from now they go, hey, we want you to
be the highest paid player in the NFL. Is like, well,
maybe maybe we can change our mind. This the Doug
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