Winners and Losers of NBA Draft, PLUS Andre Iguodala

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It's the day after the NBA Draft. Let's be honest,
we're a day closer to free agency because basically that
is what we've got in the NBA, day in in,
day out. It's been all this week, it'll be all
next week, and then we will finally have what is
going to happen in free agency glow. So glad to
have you with us here on Fox Sports Radio. The

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Rick Buker is sitting next to me to my left,
and it was last night that you were on the
Fox Sports Radio draft coverage of the gosh, how long

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was the first round? About how many hours did we
have for the first About two and a half hours
for the first round it was, so you guys were
on until about eight o'clock time and we started probably
a little past Pacific. So yeah, we want to all
let's say three and a half hours. Let's round up

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how different is has this draft changed throughout the years.
We tried to touch on it a little bit yesterday,
but it is. It is just a completely different animal
than when it was ten years ago, fifteen years ago,
and it's going to only go that direction, even more
so now that we're about to get rid of the
one and done. You're going to get younger and younger players,
and I just it's gonna gravitate towards the use of

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the G League, the the ability to draft guys more
on potential, more on upside, and say, Okay, we're gonna
play you a little bit up here, We're gonna send
you down there, and will slowly cultivate guys as opposed
to as we were talking about. You know, you you
had a you had a top ten, top fifteen pick.

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You were thinking you were going to get a player
that was going to come in and demonstrably impact your team.
That that didn't happen in last night's draft, even with
the very top guys. It's not as if it changes
the power structure of the league. Zion Williamson going to
the New Orleans Pelicans, you can compare him to Lebron

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until your face is blue. The reality is nobody's looking
at the New Orleans Pelicans and going, oh my god,
they got Zion Williams. Listen this. These halls are littered
with Laker fans, Rick, and they are littered with Laker
haters as well, just because not everybody is from Los Angeles.
And it's funny because the Laker fans say, when we

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got Anthony Davis, but all the Laker haters want to say,
look what the Pelicans did to the Lakers. And then
you're like, Okay, look at this list. I got a
list right in front of me that is a half
a page of all the assets that they got, none
of which, if you know, are gonna work out. Absolutely not.
And I have nobody's sitting there saying, you know what,
They're gonna be a top four team in the West. No.
But this is the one thing that I don't people

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people don't take into account. First of all, I like
it from both sides. I actually like it more with
the Pelicans because I like it when a team does
something good in the present and they still leave their
possibilities open for the future. The Lakers have put it

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all on right now, which I understand because you have
Lebron James for a finite period of time. So going
and getting in Anthony Davis and doing whatever was necessary
to get Anthony Davis because it does change the template
for the way everybody around the league looks at the
Lakers now is different. The possibility of maybe getting some

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veteran guys who say, hey, I'll go there on a minimum,
I'll go there on the cheap because I might get
a ring. Now they're they're they're now in that ballpark
now where they weren't before. I'll give you this example.
My wife born and raised in Los Angeles. I was
born and raised in Wisconsin, so I'm a Bucks fan,
and I will hear her talk with her dad, my
father in law, on the Lakers drought and just they

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don't win anymore. And I want to say, you want
to title this decade? Okay? Like you you want to
tell like with the last and years, you have two titles.
My teammate it to the Eastern Conference Finals for the
first time in eighteen years, and that is a banner years.
So don't it's it is a different animal in so
many different ways with the Lake and for the same

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and for the same reason, because in Milwaukee you've got
a small market. How many times did you entertain that
you were going to be in the Lebron James or
the Kevin rand Monroe When he wanted to come to Milwaukee,
it was like, what, okay, all right, by the way,
I have a story that you'll enjoy about how they

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ended up getting Greg mor Is the on air story
or I want to tell you off the air, and
then we'll decide. All right. So, but here's where the
deal for New Orleans makes a lot of sense to
is because they're not much like Milwaukee. They're not a
free agent destination, and so if they're going to capture

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a star like an Anthony Davis, they need opportunity to
do it through the draft. Having free agent money, you
can go and maybe get a veteran that makes it
a little more attractive for a young guy or helps
you develop a young guy. But the reality is you
want you're going to have to get your franchise player
like a Jani Santa to compo, You're gonna have to

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get it through the draft. What they set up in
doing this deal is that they not only control their future,
they control the Lakers future. Whatever happens in the Pelicans
get the best of whatever it is. If they get
dealt a bad hand, well let's take a look at

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what the Lakers got. Oh, that looks better. Let's go
over and get that. And at some point Lebron James
is either going to retire or he's gonna fall off,
and they're gonna have the wherewithal to take advantage of
what's left of the Lakers when that happens. With the
NBA draft last night, as long as the Pelicans just
didn't take somebody that nobody hurt. I mean, you're gonna

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take Zion, You're going to be considered a winner. Same
thing with the Memphis Grizzlies, You're going to be a winner.
What I think last night's draft what was so amazing
to me because we all do winners and losers from
the draft, but what I think is the biggest winner
of the NBA draft did not make a first round pick.
And that is all you need to know about how
we look at the NBA today when a team doesn't

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make a selection in the first round, and that would
be the Brooklyn Nets because of all the cap space
they ended up clearing for those two weeks that we
just talked about and free agency, particularly this summer, is
going to have a much, much greater impact on what
the league looks like next year, especially with the Golden
State Warriors falling off. That's what really makes this intriguing

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is that where Kauhi, Leonard Lands, I'll still say we're
Kyrie Irving Lands, Jimmy Butler. I mean, you've got a
multiple even Al Horford who's suddenly on the market, and
it's not guy that you necessarily build around, but is
an intriguing piece for teams that have cap room. And
by the way, the Lakers have a certain amount of

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cap room their ninth on the list. Among teams with
cap rooms, there are eight other teams. The Dallas Mavericks
could add a significant piece, the New Orleans Pelicans like
go along the way for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
That's what makes it intriguing is that we've got some
competitive teams that also have the ability to make some

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free agent moves that could change the lance. Just because
you brought it up, did Durance how much did durant
situation change because of the injury? Because I felt that
it was a foregone conclusion that he's gone, and now
it seemed because of the injury the Warriors were reeled
back in. Is that reality. I'm really wondering why I
get the logic in it in terms of and I've

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ivan had a gym the other day, say, why doesn't
he just opt in for one more year, take the money,
and then he's a free agent a year from now.
And I suppose you could make that argument. I haven't
heard anything from his camp that would suggest he's thinking that,
but I think we can agree he got bad advice

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to play ended up being a grave mistake. Steve Kerr
has said that he was told he couldn't hurt himself worse.
I assume KD was told the same thing. In fact,
I've got been given indications that's what he was told.
So now he's looking at the Golden State Warriors and
anybody else. People are saying, well, his doctors were telling
the same thing. Yeah, he's looking at them. Cross lie too.

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You guys told me that I wouldn't I could this,
This wouldn't happen if I did it, and it did. So.
I don't like the idea that you're going to go
back to a franchise for any period of time that
gave you the advice that means you're missing next season.
I just that there isn't bad blood there, there isn't

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bad feeling. Is hard for me to believe, at least
with half of that. If if that was if that
was the intention, if that was the intention of Golden
State to be like, let's get him back on the
court because we need it, I would think of their heads.
They're saying it obviously because they think he was going
to go yeah, well, because they weren't like if they
were keeping it in yeah, like if they were like

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saying like he could really injure it. They're trying to
win a title in those next three games, not the
next five years. Well, there's no doubt that the mentality
of the Warriors was let's just win the three pet
whatever we need to do, because otherwise it flies in
the face of how they've approached things with their players

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prior to this. They've always been very conscious of rest
load management. Let's try to extend things. Well, now you're
playing Andrea Goodala, who are going to have on the
show at a time where he was he told me,
he goes, I probably shouldn't be playing right now. Clay
Thompson plays with a hamstring strain, right, And you can't
tell me that the A c L wasn't a byproduct

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of a guy playing on a on a bad hamstring
where suddenly you're timing and everything, your balance, everything is off.
Kavan Looney playing with what was what had taken him
out of the out of the game. So from that respect,
the pressure on Kadi because all these other guys are
going to the wall, is well, I I gotta play too.

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I don't want to be the guy who says no,
I can't. And Katie's of the mindset he wants to play.
They just they needed somebody to say it's a bad bet.
And I know he had people in his camp saying that.
I don't know that there was anybody from the Warriors
who was saying that. He's Rick Buker, I'm Dan Buyer.
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Rick Buker. I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. With everything
that happened last night, the sun still seem a mess.
So you've got that as well, like if everything that
may have moved around, So there pick Cam, Yeah, Cam Johnson,
Cam Johnson. I first of all, nobody saw him going
in the lottery. No one saw him going that high.
And I texted one of my scouts and said, what's up.

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He wrote back, no idea dot l O L dot
wow dot. I checked in with another one clown show.
That's what he called clown show. That And and I
don't fault anybody for taking Cam Johnson. It's not taking

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Cam Johnson. But he supposedly he's got hip issues. There's
he was red flagged by a lot of teams taking
him where they took him. That's where I have an issue.
Ye traded. I mean you were at six, you do
the deal with Minnesota, and you just you know, go
down to eleven. Maybe somebody else was interested in eleven,
and then you go to and you and pick up
another and pick up another asset because nobody was going

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to jump past you to get Cam Johnson. I just
wonder and I heard, you know, are scouting over the
last year was not the best. That's really since shouldn't
surprise you it is, it's it's it's tough to watch.
The Phoenix Suns continued to saying to make the same
mistakes over and over. It's been setting. The Suns have
been setting for a bunch of seasons. He's Rick Buker.

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He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer, sitting in for Doug
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on the phone to look back at last night's selection
process in the NBA college basketball guru, former college great

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and now let's just say fortune teller Rashad Phillips looking
ahead to the future like he did with Trey Young.
Yoda joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, Rich,
I'm going to talk to you again. Hey, thanks for
having me. Guys. Let's okay. So last year was the
the the the Tray Young love like you were. You
were hyping Tray Young above every every anyone else in

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saying the success that he was gonna have with the
Atlanta Hawks was going to be monumental, and and you
cast in those chips. So with the twenty nine teen draft,
seeing how things have fallen out, what player and what
matchup do you love the most from last night's draft? Man,
I actually, I actually like the seventh pick. I like
Kobe White going to Chicago last night. I really like

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that pick. I think that Kobe is gonna you have
Chicago some scoring punch. I think he's a fantastic player,
and I think that he's not getting enough credit for
what he can bring to the table out. So I
like that seven pick with Kobe White. So when you
add him to the mix, rashod with the Bulls. What's
your projection for what they're capable of doing this next season.

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I think they're just gonna be more high power. I
think they're gonna play really fast, and I think in
the next couple of years, um I think you know,
for me, you always got to get the quarterback and
play the point guard. And I think that's what the
Bulls was missing. Now you've got Zack Levine, you got marketing,
you got Wendow Carter Jr. Who was terrific. Now you

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add to Kobe White. I just think in the next
the Bulls have set themselves up to make a playoff
run in the next two or three years. What field
do you have for Jim Boylan and how he and
Kobe White might mix, since that's gonna be an important
dynamic between your floor leader and your head coach. Well,
you know, just from talking to Coach Williams about Kobe,

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he's a He's a very likable, coachable kid. So I
think he's one of those one of those players that
has an easy going temperament. Um. So I think he's
going to go really well with Coach Boyle and what
he's trying to do Over there. So I think he's
gonna make plays. I think he's going to get the
ball out of his hands when he needs to um.
But also with his size and his playmaking ability and

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and and and then his way, he can get his
own shot. I think he's just gonna be a it's
gonna be a matchmate in heaven for Ris Shod Phillips.
Joining us here on Fox Sports Radio on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Find ros shot on Twitter at RP three Natural.
I want to stick with the point guards because the
Cavaliers organization is apparently in love with them. They've taken
a point guard for the second straight year. Last year
was Colin Sexton. Now you've got Darius Garland coming in

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obviously new regime in Cleveland. But you're just talking with
Kobe about be White. What made Darius Garland that that
second point guard that came off the board last night.
I'm gonna call it the Trey Young effect. I just
think that now. I think teams are are afraid to
miss out on the next dynamic point guard. So sometimes

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you may you may take a risk and and and
see if you can, you know, strike gold. And I
think that's what the Cleveland Cavaliers did. Um, I don't
really know that they were sold on Colin Sexton in
regards as a as a playmaker, I think Collins more
of a combo scoring guard. UM. So I think they
rolled the dike here with Garland. But you also gotta

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think about coach be Lion. He has had a history
of of being great coaching perimeter guards from Trey burd
to to Hardaway Jr. And what have you. He does
he does a terrific job of coaching perimeter player. So
I think he'll do well with Darius Garland. So, Rashad,
what was the pick that made you go what? Yeah,

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you know the ninth pick when Washington took Ruey from
from Gonzaga at nine, UM, I was a little um
kind of I didn't know that. I thought it was
a little bit of a reach. I thought there was
better players I'm available at that at that ninth spot. Um,

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Cam Reddish was still on the board. There was a
lot of players that were still on the board, and
when Washington did that, I was just a little trying
to figure that out. Really is a great player. But
I think that I think Washington really reached on that
pick at nine well, you had Cam Reddish then going
to tend to the Hawks, and Rick and I were
trying to figure out what the Suns are doing at eleven,
like the trade down from six if that's your plan.

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But with Cam Johnson from North Carolina, can you shed
any light on what what Phoenix is thought processes of
of of taking Johnson, who everybody on Twitter pointed out
last night older than Devin Booker. So so that's what
you've got when you bringing in your eleventh pick. Clarify
what the Suns did or what they're trying to do
at least if you yeah, yeah, I think I was

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a little lost with that one. I think they're trying
to add more jump shooting. And when you look at
Cameron Johnson is a kid that shot forty pc from three,
is one of the better shooters in the country last year,
UM six seven, both parents played basketball, has a basketball pedigree.
So I think what the Phoenix Suns is doing is
that they're trying to serve they haven't got their point

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guard that they want yet, but I think they're trying
to surround whoever this mystery point guard is going to
be for their team with jump shooters, with Devin Booker
and Cameron Johnson. That's that's just me trying to look
into the crystal ball here for the Phoenix Suns. But
imagine with your work on the draft for Shot. You've heard,
as I've heard that Cam has some hip issues. There's

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some red flags there physically, and so I get taking Cam.
I don't have a problem taking Cam. I have a
problem taking Cam at the eleventh spot where nobody was
fighting in you for him. You probably could have gotten
him at seventeen eighteen, maybe even at twenty and picked
up another asset, and for where the Suns are. That
would make all the sense in the world to me.
That's just that's it. That's the part of it that

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I don't understand. Yeah, it was, it was, it was.
It was really strange. You know. There were some I
think teams. I think sometimes when during the draft, I
think I think sometimes the management, I think they over
overthink it sometimes. I think they'll have the right name
down and then they just freeze up and overthink it
and then go away from the actual plan. So I

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think that was one of the I think that's what
happened to Phoenic class Man. I don't know if that
was really their eyes were really set on Cam Johnson.
I think it was just an impulse pick and they're
hoping that it works out. Rashot Phillips shrunning us here
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sitting in for Doug Gottlieb by the Doug Gottlib Show.
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head over to the suv tv dot com check it out.
I'm so intrigued by the Celtics guys, but maybe I'm
more intrigued because I know Carson Edwards and Romeo Lankford.
There there's we know of our Carson Edwards in his
career produce, but specifically of what he did in the
n C Double A Tournament, while Romeo Langford's short career
in Bloomington a disappointment for what the Hoosiers accomplished. How

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do you see those two fitting in considering the changes
that Boston could be dealing with this offseason. I'm glad
you brought up the Celtics. I think they really I
think they had a good draft. I mean, they also
got Grant Williams from Tennessee. Who's you know, two times
SEC Player of the Year. I think he fits in
well there, um you you you grab Lankford, who was
a prototypical shooting guard that can be you know, six

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six six ft eleven Wayne span I think he will
turn out to be a great defender. He reminds me
a lot of Demarga Rosen. Carson Edwards is a is
a volume score, but I see he shows splashes of
Kyle Laurie. To me, he's a He's a smaller guard,
but he's really compact and strong. So I think the
Boston Celtics did a terrific job yesterday of grabbing those

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three play airs because I think that I think obviously
we know crass seams will coach him up, but these
all three of these guys can really make an impact
right away. So I think I think the Celtics did
a really good job of getting those players. So when
we say impact, that's that was my then maybe we
should have started here, which is in the big picture,
who changed their fortunes for next season the most by

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what they did last night? I would have to say
the Atlanta Hawks did. I would have to say the
Atlanta Hawks. They moved up to four. They got they got.
They got DeAndre Hunter, who was outside of Bible was
the best best defensive player. The Hawks needed perimeter defense,
so they got DeAndre Hunter at four, who's a terrific defender,
National champion. He comes with that winning pedigree, and then

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arguably to me, the most talented player in the draft,
Cam Reddish falls in your lap at ten, and then
you get a Bruiser and a Bruno Fernando. So I
really think the Atlanta Hawks that did themselves a service
by getting those three quality players. And I think when
you surround anybody like that with Trey Young, I just

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think that he's gonna make He's gonna lift those guys up.
So I think the Hawks did themselves a servage yesterday
with DeAndre Hunter, Cam Reddish and Bruno Fernando. Maybe you
could speak on this, but to tell both you guys,
the John Morant pick to me is great, but it
happened a month ago. Were like you, you knew it.

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So when it happened last night, when you're saying like
franchise changers or guys to to to change the face
of a franchise, I almost feel like that's old news.
But I felt like the Grizzlies have been the most
irrelevant team in the NBA for a lot of different reasons,
and now they finally have something. What do they have
by taking John Morant number two last night? And how

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does that change things in Memphis? Well, you gotta look
at them. You gotta look at the makeup of a
player like John Moran. I think Memphis got this one
right because is when you look at the makeup of
John Moran, here's the kid that's always used to carry
in So there's there's a different mindset when you're a
high major college player and when you're a mid major

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quote unquote type of player. As a mid major player,
you're trained to carry people all the time. As a
high major college player, you're taught to share a little
bit more. John Moran is going to carry. He's programmed
to carry that unit. And I think they got it
right that he makes plays. He was the first player
ever to average twenty five and tennis is in the

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college season. He's going to carry that same dynamic over
to Memphis. He's exciting to watch and he has that
magnetism about him. People like to play with him, and
I think he's gonna really open up some eyes, and
Memphis finally got a guy that can actually move the needle,
and that's John Morand. They actually have a whole lot
of nothing outside of that. That's that's my question, which

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is if they're trying to build something that's going to
allow Ja to have some degree of success, what do
they need to give him as far as just just pieces.
Does he need a screen setting big, does he need
floor spacers? What? What is gonna allow John Morand to
work his magic in Memphis at some level this next season? Well,

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I think I think last year they got it right
by drafting Jared Jackson Jr. So there's there's your there's
your your picking roll or your floor space are right there.
Obviously they're gonna have to They're gonna have to get
somebody in in free agency as well. They don't I
don't think guys really want to go to Memphis at play.
So I think this year maybe a wasp, but you
may want to get you want to get a free agent,

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a mid level free agent there um that that can
help John and and and get him going. But you've
got two pieces of the puzzle with Jaren Jackson Junior
and John Moran, So you do have something there where
you can get started. But I think Memphis, I think
that Bill, I think that Bill Rick is about. I
think it's gonna take about four years to actually build
that house there in Memphis. So is that in mind.

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I'm always curious when when a guy has the talent
of a John Moran in particular. Yeah, we we see
international players like Janice probably gonna stay in Milwaukee, marcusol Palcasalt,
they didn't have a problem staying in Memphis. Guys like
John Moran, they get good and they started looking around
and saying, hey, where where's the market that fits my

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telling yes exactly, what are the chances from what you
know about Jah and Jaren Jackson that they can convince
those guys, hey, stay here, will build it around you,
will make Memphis castle castle for you. Well, you know, Rick,
it's gonna be. It's gonna You're gonna have to win
some games. Because when you win, win winning. Here's all.

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We all know that. But if if if John goes
through three or four years and and they're just losing
no playoff appearances, and you know, as as a as
a as a player, you start looking over your shoulder,
You start watching other guys around the league that's winning,
making playoffs, making All Star games. Then that's when you
start saying, hey, I don't know if Memphis maybe the

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spot for me. So Memphis is in a position where
they're gonna have to show some promise early not making
the playofflls or anything like that, but they're gonna have
to show some promise with the guys that they have
or that the problem that you said that's gonna happen
because you gotta win games. You'll take that problem considering
the problems they've had over the last few years in Memphis.

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He is Rashad Phillips again. Go over to the suv
tv dot com check out his thoughts on every draft pick.
Find him on Twitter at RP three Natural. Rashad, great
to talk to you again and uh yeah, buckle up
for free agency should be fun. Absolutely, thank you for
having me, guys talk. Rashad Phillips one of the best
man with a point guard. He was back in the
day dribbling around the city of Detroit and taking those

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Titans to places. N C double A turning off. Yeah,
I saw Rashod playing the double A turning when they
ticked down u C l A had Reggie Miller on
one side of the stands at jailen Ros because they're
both playing for the pacers, drawing at each other. Shot
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want to read into Yesterday was the boxes at home depot.
If you're gonna move across town or to a different
high rise, you just maybe take a truck. You don't

(27:52):
take cargo jets. I'm reading everything into the Kawhi Leonard decision.
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hear your thoughts and what Pelicans President David Griffin had
to say about the future of Zion Williamson in New Orleans.
This is Drew Holiday's team. Zion is going to be
part of learning how to win at a really high level.

(28:12):
And at some point, if there's a time that the
baton gets past in terms of who's expected to carry
us to win games, it will. That's not now. Let
Zion be that kid. Don't write this like he's here
to save this franchise. He's not. He's here to join
this family and we're here to raise each other. All right,

(28:33):
you gotta smile on your face. Yeah, because David Griffin
is doing everything he can. He's like punching that reset button.
I know you guys got him as Lebron James and
it was gonna no wait wait, wait, wait wait wait.
He's played a year in college. He's a phenomenal athlete,
he's still learning how to play the game. The idea

(28:56):
that he's going to come on the NBA scene because
because he's a great athlete, eat and take the league
by storm is don't put that pressure on him. Don't
put that pressure on us, because he's going to fail.
He's going to disappoint you. And we know how that works.
Dan once a guy doesn't. He isn't what we thought
he was. Alonzo Ball, hello, Lazo Ball isn't what we

(29:18):
thought he was going to be. Now he sucks. It's
not that he's not. Oh he needs time, right, we
still I I've said, we have to stop looking at
Alonzo Ball as the second overall pick of a draft.
He's now as a guy who's going to have his
jersey on the wall with the Lakers. And I fault
Magic Johnson as much as anybody, along with his dad
for putting that there. But I said, at the time

(29:41):
we're putting him in the Hall of Fame. He's yet
to dribble a basketball and he didn't do anything at
the collegiate level that made me say, oh yeah, he's coming.
Here's what I think is interesting because you look at
it as Zion as a player. I look at those
comments as the Pelicans as an organization for the simple
effect of, aside from some injury history and a requesting

(30:04):
for a trade, Anthony Davis did everything to live up
to what a first overall pick would be, of of
of being that player, of turning out to be that
great player. And the Pelicans could only make it to
the Western Conference semifinals. But that's where I put that.
You put that on the franchise. I put that on
Anthony Davis if you're that good and I he has

(30:28):
the talent, no question, he has the talent to be
that guy. But your availability, when you get your numbers,
how you take over games. He didn't do that for me.
So I look at it and say, yes, from a
talent perspective, understand why he would be the number one pick.
But if you're that, like comparison Derrick Rose with Chicago,

(30:52):
take a look at what they put around him. Not
a whole lot of talent. He got them to the playoffs,
he got them in to a seven game series as
a rookie, the only time that Anthony Davis ever got
them to the playoffs was when Oklahoma City was had
had injuries galore and ultimately had to fall by the wayside.

(31:14):
They backed into the playoffs. If you're a number one
pick and you have the talent that Anthony Davis has,
then I don't care who they put next to you.
You should be competing for a playoff spot. But isn't
that a lesson than for the Pelican fans In the
message that you're trying to give out is it can't
be just one guy. Like I actually think it's on

(31:35):
David Griffin shoulders to to build this to to put
this together, to look at the assets that they have.
Of maybe the number one guy is a certain way,
but he can only do so much. And that's that's
the message that I look at it of like David
Griffin taking on He's the one really with the responsibility.
And I know it's a player's league and you can

(31:55):
say it's huge Drew's team, but it's really on on
David Griffin to build this team with that first overall pick.
And there's also we make the mistake of grading all
number one picks as equal. You might be the best
player in that particular draft. That doesn't mean that you're
a franchise player. It just means you're the best player

(32:17):
in that particular draft. And then who drafts you and
the acumen of the GM to put pieces around you
is going to be part of the equation. So it's
not all on one guy. But in the case of
Zion Williamson, I mean, honestly, you've got a great talent.
But this is what worries me because everybody thinks he's
now going to lead that team. David Griffins absolutely right.

(32:41):
Drew Holiday, as of right today and probably tomorrow and
come April, is going to be the best player on
that teams. Ian Williamson can get there upside tremendous, but
as of right now, it is Drew Holiday's team. Today's
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(33:02):
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(33:23):
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It's this time a show that Doug likes to have
some fun. So we play a game on the Doug
gott Leaps Show. Now we're gonna bring an Isaac Glow
and Crown and Isaac we're going to kind of give
the ground rules to Rick on this one. Okay, once

(34:06):
we find out what the game is sound good? Yes,
what is the game today? Well, if you were playing successfully,
you would know that the game was present. Scenarios are questions,
and then we use our crystal ball to look ahead
to what's going to happen. Okay, and it's perfect game
for the day after the NBA Draft. So, who will

(34:27):
be the NBA's Rookie of the Year If if it
isn't Zion Williamson, do you want to take a stab?
Do you want to m any predictions? Go ahead? I
will go with John Morantz as someone who has voted
on this award for a couple of decades now. It

(34:49):
often goes to to statistics. It's one of the reasons
why Trey Young was coming up on Luka don Sitch
because he was on fire the second half of the season. Uh.
John is going to have the ball in his hands.
He's gonna have the freedom to do whatever he wants.
His numbers are gonna be huge. He may throw up
a few triple doubles, and that's what convinces voters that

(35:10):
you should be in the running. All right, That's what
the crystal ball says. We'll go with Rick on that one. Alrighty,
next up? Will the Pelicans make the playoffs this upcoming season? No, No,
I don't see it at all, Rick, I I don't
see I don't see the future. The Lakers are obviously
going to be better. When you're looking at teams moving
in slots here and there, Sacramento on the verge, I

(35:32):
think that they've got a better chance. I don't see
a playoff appearance for the Pelicans in something dramatic would
have to happen, like the Warriors falling out of the
playoff picture. I'm with you. I think the Pelicans will
be better and competitive, but it's whose slot are they
going to take? Because the Lakers are probably gonna jump
into the playoff picture. San Antonio should be better day Murray,

(35:54):
you hope comes back and is healthy. Let's Portland's not
gonna drop off. You hope den Vert continues there. I
mean they're yeah, yeah, there's not many. Utah got better,
we think with Mike Conley. Yeah, No, it's it's difficult. Houston.
Do their problems become graver and at some point during
the season do they tear it down and move in

(36:15):
another direction. You're gonna need something monumental like that to
happen to open up a spot for the Pelicans. How
about the Atlanta Hawks? Will they make the playoffs? Psychics
over in the Eastern Conference. Everybody is eligible to make
the playoffs in the Eastern Conference, So I will say yes,

(36:39):
because there are a look, Charlotte's not gonna break through
if Kemba's not back, right, so they might not break
through even if alright, so let's take them out of
they were at nine spots. Yes, Pistons were the eight seed.
Brooklyn that's just snuck in. Let's see where they go.
Do they get Kyrie Irving or not? Orlando just snuck in.

(37:00):
None of those teams are guaranteed to have a spot,
so I believe that the opportunity is there now. The
one thing I will say is you have to learn
how to compete at the end of the season for
a playoff spot to get there. Hawks really didn't get
the opportunity to do that, so there's still a learning curve,
but I like their talent. I will also say this
with Atlanta because of the mindset to see what the

(37:22):
Clippers did this year and going for it. If they're
in the thick of it. It may benefit them more
to try to go for the eighth spot. Then it
would be to be like, hey, we'll just try to
get the experience that Shay Alexander and uh And and
Landry Shammett and and therese young players Montres Harrold just

(37:42):
to find out. That's to find out you can have
a quality young player, but you need to see him
in the playoffs to see whether he can take that
next step. The Hawks need to find that out with
these young guys to decide who they're going to invest in.
So did you say no, that you're agreeing with me
that they like like if the Hawks are in the
thick of it, Yes, exactly. That's the point. That and

(38:05):
that and that adds to the possibility of them doing
it there. This is game time on the Doug got
Leap Show. That's what is also is usually after the draft,
you could be like NFL Draft, we do it all
the time. You put your predictions out of who's gonna win.
We have no idea, Like nothing is really changed in

(38:26):
the NBA. It's all about to change in the next
two or three weeks. But if you want to jockey
for position, the real question is what's going to fall
out in the next couple of days. He's Rick Buker,
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gotleap Show here
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(38:49):
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(39:10):
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how quickly the draft came this year, like June twenty is.
I don't remember it ever being that early. Usually it

(39:51):
always seemed about twenty six or twenty five and that.
But to have it on June twenty, a week exactly
a week from when the the finals ended, has really
kind of put an abrupt end to the season. And
now we just dive ahead to what's forward as free
agencies on the horizon. Yeah, it's but that's what the
league has become. Honestly, the attraction to the league has

(40:15):
more to do with the transactions. Who's going to get who,
who's gonna play with? Who, where's a guy going to go.
I'm not sure that people watch the game anymore or
in love with the game as much as they're in
there in love with the fantasy aspect of what's who's
gonna be where next year? And what what what what's
that team gonna look like? I sent out a tweet

(40:36):
after the Raptors won the Finals, saying, the top three
storylines that week in the NBA We're eighties trade to
the Lakers, Kevin Durant's injury, and Clay Thompson's injury, and
that honorable mention was the Raptors winning the title, because
that's what it felt like of of the stories that salivated.
I mean, baseball's hot stove used to be the off season.

(40:57):
No longer. It's all about the NBA's hot stove. The
and the NBA is eating up more of the sports
landscape than it ever has before. The the the the
real harbinger for me was the week before the super Bowl.
The super Bowl, the biggest sporting event in the United States.
We were talking Anthony Davis. We're talking about the attempts

(41:20):
by the Lakers to get Anthony Davis. That was what
everybody was talking about the week before the Super Bowl.
I had never seen that happen before. You know what
it was for me was did you see the Summer
League game last night? Like? Like? That was another one
of like and now you're giving out T shirts for
winning Summer League. I am there, and I am in
Thomas and mac Arena, and it is full to the

(41:43):
rafters to watch what the latest picks to see. But
then a bunch of guys extraordinary, extraordinary the people that
and what Summer League has become. You're absolutely right. I
thought that Summer League jerseys we're going to be a
thing because we know the NBA will have a team
where four or five jerseys. How awesome if you could

(42:04):
get the summer league jersey, for example, of a Zion
Williamson because he used to just be reversible tanks. But
if you were to throw up a Zion Williams in
Summer League jersey at the NBA store in New York
City or in New Orleans, be sold out in a minute.
Same thing in Memphis Warriors jerseys. Those are hard to
come by. By the way, Do you like the modification

(42:25):
to the Warriors jerseys for next season? They kind of
updated the Bay Bridge. There's gonna be a different Bay jersey.
I'm a uniform guy. No, no, I like that. But
you gotta look really long and hard, and you have
to have a sense of bridges to be able to
look at those two units and go, oh hey, look
it's the Golden State Bridge, it's not the Bay Bridge.

(42:45):
Let's see if Andre Goodala gives the thumbs up on
the new Warriors logo as he joins us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Andre has got a new book coming
out on Tuesday called The Six Man. Thumbs Up or
Thumbs Down. Andre to the modified logo that the Warriors
are going to or have unveiled for next season, I
didn't know. I was supposed to see him and know

(43:05):
what they looked like. I have not seen it. Apologize,
Wait a minute, Andre, with your sensibility when it comes
to fashion, are you telling me that you weren't part
of the committee to look at the the the new
logo and say yeah or nay. I would like to
have been, but you know, the powers that be thought
that it wasn't their best injuries to do whatever they could,

(43:26):
which is not including that's a that's a that's a
damn shame. Because I've seen your I've seen your your
your fashion sense, and as anybody who's been in the
Warrior's locker room knows, you are on point when it
comes to that. Andrew really appreciate you taking the time
to join us. I just wonder at this stage, you've
had a little bit of separation from what was a

(43:49):
tumultuous season, a very emotional season for you guys. When
you look at at everything that you accomplished and didn't accomplish,
what is the high and what is the low as
you as you walk away? Um, I mean not the high.
I mean honestly, it was just the season ending, I think,

(44:12):
and ending the way we fall through the whole playoff series.
I mean, from the first round getting a great test
from the Clippers and uh, there was like media madness
around that and Houston of being a team that was
you know, they thought they missed the opportunity the previous
season and they thought they were you know, it's kind

(44:32):
of the redemption series and trying to beat us and
then Katie going down and then how we responded and
in Portland's you know, um, the great series of Steph
had and Draymond had Clay as well, and dealing with
injuries through that series and they into the finals and
then that whole thing that happened. It was just that
was a true roller coaster ride of of an off

(44:55):
season that not too many teams will ever experience. So
just for us to get through all that, Like I
was telling Sean Livson, like it was an accomplishment, like
just getting that far, like no one understands. Uh, what
the last five years I've taken out of us and
for us to continue to get through all that was
an accomplishment in itself. Andre goot Dollar joining us here

(45:18):
on Fox Sports Radio. It's only been a week in
a day, But what has been this last eight or
nine days after the season ended in the NBA Finals? What? How?
What has that period been? Like? It's been amazing. I
played Spyglass Saturday morning, and then I went to watch
the US Open with my good friend Ryan Smith from Qualtrix.

(45:41):
Uh we watched on eighteen the rest of the day,
and then uh then playing my favorite courses in the
Bay on Tuesdays called Metal Club. Aliston McKenzie course is amazing.
He did Augusta and he did Patty Tempo and then
I broke eighty. Uh that back after the season, I
tried to said a nine in my home course and

(46:01):
and then I had a really good round yesterday. So, uh,
if I haven't even been a week, it's only been
like six days, that's pretty good. Is there a particular
I have to ask, is is there a particular course
or or uh, someone you want to play with? What's
on the bucket list when it comes to your your
your golf Valhalla. Well, I got a chance to play

(46:22):
with Tony fee now last Saturday. Uh he was in
a group ahead of me, but he was in our
total group. We had a group of eight. But I
got to see him swing. That was fun. Uh. Rory's
my favorite golfer. Uh, like I forced him to be. Uh,
it would be me Rory Tiger and Pete Myers. Pete
Myers and my guy he got me into golf. When

(46:43):
I got to wait a minute, the former Bulls guy.
You know, we're like family. Our wives are close friends.
And uh we got two young kids around the same age.
So I'm that I'll close to his family. He's close
to mind. So he got me into golf and we
would have a lot of fun don't know on the course.
So two great golfers and two not so good golfers,
so maybe even it out. Okay, I'm gonna double up

(47:05):
with golf questions because I know we want to talk
about the book. But quickly, do you have do you
have access to cypress Point and How is Tony Fiedel
playing on Saturday when he should have been playing the
weekend of the U S Open, Like he missed the cut,
that's why he was available. How does something like that happen?
Uh so, Cypress, I haven't played, but I just scheduled it.
My guy rust Woods. I gotta get him credit. He's

(47:27):
getting me out there. We're playing one of these off days.
I gotta make sure that my schedule. Yeah, but he's
I'm getting out there this summer for the first time.
And uh yeah, Tony Fenel missed the cut, but he's
cool with the same guy, Ryan Smith, who's uh yeah.
Like I said, he did a company call Tricks and
they got bought out by s A p Early this
year for a ton of money. So he's in. He's got,

(47:50):
he's he's got. He's in the beat category. He's in
a three comic club now. So he says, of course
I U tall jazz games. So he's a big fan
and he loves golf. So he's got a good uh
robotex athletes who on some business advice advice from him.
So good guy, good friend. As Dan mentioned, uh you
have a book out. Andrea Wedalo with Carvel Wallace, The

(48:11):
Sixth Man. It's a memoir. Uh. Writing a book is
a big undertaking, and I've always appreciated the opportunity to
talk to you because you look at things through a
different prism. I think it's because your entire life experience, uh,
and coming up in basketball is a little different than
the traditional path for a guy who makes it to

(48:32):
the NBA and has the experience that you've had. But
what was the motivation to take on writing a book
and letting people into uh providing the insight to Andrea
I Guadala considering you're you're not always that forthcoming when
it comes to when it comes to the media or

(48:52):
letting people behind the curtain. Yeah, so it was really interesting.
I mean, I think you you hit it on the head.
Everything you just explain, you know, see Kurkle of me.
I like to be cynical, so but if you're both
of your right. I think it started off as an
idea from a business partner and uh for various reasons
for him, which makes sense, but for me it it

(49:15):
became therapeutic and he became like therapy sessions. It was
really good, man, just to reflect on how you know,
I always give a lot of advice and a lot
of stories to my young guys. And I've had a
lot of other players or other teams asking for advice

(49:35):
or asked me to work out in the summer, and
it's like, whoa, you know, you don't really understand who
you are. Uh sometimes until the things like that happened.
You know. I had a guy, the young kid from Phoenix.
He was a rigulast year you went to Villanoto, but
he's got like a nine foot wingspan wing player. Um.
He told me in the game this year. Uh, he

(49:59):
was like, man, I remember, you know I was a kid.
I was crying because Chris Webert took your number and
that was my rookie year. And he was like, I
was like seven years old. I was like, oh my god,
like I'm old. Was It was like you know when
you have those I was having those moments and it's like,
you know, this is something that could benefit a lot
of athletes. Uh. But it was really good for me

(50:21):
just reflecting and and just getting a lot of that
off my chest and uh, just a different perspective of
how how an athlete can view sports. Like you know,
people see all the gleads and the glamour and they say,
you know, you have all this money and you have
all this access, so it's it's the greatest thing in life.
But they don't understand the mental strength that goes into it,

(50:42):
or the or the toll the body takes, Like your
body grows, goes through some traumatic things, and I'm thinking
about that. It's like, imagine what it's like to give birth,
Like we don't even understand that. But the same way
a woman tries to explain to a man, like, you know,
what it's like to give birth is like not the same,
but there are parallels and whether athlete body goes through
and what we put ourselves on the line for and

(51:05):
and you know, as we know, sports it's really a business,
and that bottom line is what's most important to those
who have vested invested interest in the sports. And a
lot of athletes don't understand that. You know, you see
athletes are sparting up. You know, you see a lot
of football players retiring a little bit earlier. You know,
you start to see load management. That's a that's a

(51:29):
word that's been going on around in the NBA a lot,
and guys are just trying to look out for their
their their physical health and uh mental health as well.
I know we've been talking about mental health a lot
in the NBA, and I hope it's just not something
we just talk about, UM and and and do genuine
genuinely addressed. And we just really wanted to be addressed.

(51:50):
And this is something like this. This helped me mentally,
just you know, expressing myself to put it out there.
The book is The Sixth Man. Andre Goo Dollard joins
this here on Fox Sports Radio. So we're just fresh
shot off the heels of the draft. What was your
experience like in deciding to enter the draft when you
were leaving Arizona. There are guys who made out last
night and some that maybe fell a lot farther than

(52:11):
than than they would have thought. What was your experience
like when you had that decision that that guys had
went through last night. Yeah, my draft experience was like
that whole thing was kind of crazy. Um and I
talked about in the book. I mean, I go back
to the first time I got a agent caught me
coming out of the arena in college and I'm walked
to my car and he's like, I'm a asient and

(52:32):
I just you know, I don't want to break any rules,
but I just want to talk to you. And I
was like, talk to me for what he was like,
you know, I think you know you got potential. I
like potential for what. Like I had no idea that
I had a chance to go in the NBA then
or like in two years. And I was a sophomore,
so I didn't quite get it, you know, you know,

(52:53):
being in college and not understanding how the business of
college basketball works. And you know, I think we were
second in the country in basketball revenue, behind Kentucky. Like
you know, we were the reason why our sports department
was you know, running as well as it was, and
not understanding that, you know, confidence of a nineteen year
old kid it can waiver, and you're trying to keep

(53:15):
the kid there because you know you can exploit him
a little bit more, squeeze the extra year out of him,
versus him making the most out of his talent and
going pro. Like you know, a lot of that goes
unnoticed and untalked about. You know what I mean, Um,
you felt exploited at Arizona. I think I'm not saying
I was explored personally, but it does happen in sports

(53:36):
where if you're a head coach, how do you get paid.
You get paid by winning, you know, natural Championship. You
know Blude Ocean's Hall of Famer and what he's been
able to do with all the players. The more success
you have, um the more value you bring to the university,
the more value you bring to yourself. And nine year
old you don't know that. So I talked about in

(53:57):
the book just going every day. I can go pro,
and I would be a lot to repick. But the
message that I'm getting every day is you know you
could be better, You could be better that the year
could do you better. You know you you know you
go a lottery this year, next year, this year you
may not get drafted. I was getting that feedback from
some of my coaches, and then when you reflect on that,

(54:19):
it was like, WHOA, that was a selfish motive, And
you can't blame them because everyone has their own selfish motives.
You know what I'm saying. It's kind of like that's
how you're surviving. But I'm not knowing this at nineteen
years old. I'm just know I'm getting two different messages.
I have an agent telling me he wants to represent me.
And but all you've been hearing your whole life is
is agents are bad. And you know the school you're

(54:40):
going to for college is gonna take you the man
who would have your best interests at heart. So all
those things I explained in the book. Um, ultimately I
go to the draft and uh, then you're trying to
find yourself how you're supposed to act as an NBA
player once you get drafted, you know, how should your
swag be? You know, you're trying to find yourself. Uh,
and all those things are throwing at you at a
young age. I mean in one of the businesses. Uh,

(55:02):
it's all that wealth and access being thrown into at
such a young age, and none of us are prepped
to handle that type of money, especially the backgrounds have
come from. So you know, I talked about it in
the book. So what what won't be in the book
because it just happened the finals and everything that you
guys went through, and I believe as you went through it,
it's okay. One thing after another happened, setback after setback.

(55:27):
I'm sure in the midst of it you're fighting to
just try to get the job done. As you look back,
what was the blow or what was the turning point
where it was just too much for you guys to overcome? Well,
I don't think it was ever too much. You just
gotta give Toronto Raptors their their credit. You know, they
championship team, they played the champions, they carried themselves. The

(55:50):
champions had the work ethic, they played hard every single night.
You had a different guy step up for them outside
Kai every single night. You know, Kyle Arey had a
big game six, Danny Green had a huge Game three.
I believe Pascal had a huge game one. Uh gassault
without the whole series. Um, Sergebaka had a huge game four.
So you just got to get him credit. Uh. We

(56:12):
were fighting to the end, and we mean we were
right there, we were down to with a chance to
go up step gets uh solid Okay, look with three
guys running at him, and you know we think it's
all going in. Coach draws of a great play out
of bounds. He just misses and you know we just
fall short by a possession, you know what I mean,
or a couple of inches. So for it the end

(56:33):
the way it did, Um, you know, we can only
be proud of ourselves, uh, and then just be happy
for the Toronto Raptors. So in going forward, for the
last five years, it's been we're playing for a championship
now because of the situation that you're in uncertainty as
far as Clay and Katie, etcetera. What what what's the

(56:55):
objective next season? Like, how do you find that new
thing to set your accompassed by Well, I mean it's
the same thing you do before you were Um, you
were pegged to be the short fire champion, you know,
when everyone doubted you. You know, before I came to
the Warriors, I was on the Denver team. We set

(57:15):
a team record for wins in the year Philly. We
weren't supposed to even get to the playoffs half the time. Um,
and we always exceed the expectations. UM. And we just
use that that that doubt is fuel and we're gonna
do the same thing this year. You know, we still
I got one of the best players, top five players
in the league, one of the best defenders in the
league and Draymond So, uh, you know, free agency is

(57:38):
gonna be big for us. I think we did well
in the draft. I think we did really well in
the draft. Um so I'm really looking forward to where
everybody's going to get more opportunities, uh, because of what
what won't be there for a while, and we're going
to make the most of You saw it in the
playoffs with this this year. You know, Quinn Cook had
a huge game for us, made some huge shots in
Game five. Help us get over the hump. Um, I'm

(57:59):
looking for or to uh, Damien Jones finally getting over injuries.
He had a good start to the year. He's gonna
be a good player. Um. So we got to be
confident and your goal, no matter what, should be towards
helping your team win and trying to you know, play
championship caliber basketball. Well, you've got a book coming out,
The Sixth Man comes out on Tuesday. You're a finals

(58:20):
m v P or a three time world CHAMPI your
greatest accomplishment that was getting the first name Twitter handle? Yeah.
I mean yeah, like, were you like the second person
to join Twitter? How does that happen? Andre? That was
a gift I think, Uh I talked about I've been
talking about I said in two or three times a day,
and and while we've been chatting about access and I
just had access to booting somebody. I channel my inergery

(58:41):
mind and booting somebody out of I'm going after the
guy who has at Dan. He is on my hit list. Andre,
We appreciate it again. The book comes out this Tuesday,
The sixth Man, Andre Goodalla's memoir, We appreciate you coming
on Fox Sports Radio. Thank you guys. A lot of
good stuff. And I guess there there's he's a he

(59:04):
is so fascinating to talk to. Um. I went to
ask him at one point and he and he doesn't
really like the media by and large because he's a
lot like Greg Popovich and that he doesn't tolerate like
the standard questions. If you come at him from a
little different angle. You saw him like we start to
talk about golf, like okay, that this isn't that something
I haven't talked about. It's going to open up and

(59:27):
I we we were talking about the I forget where
the conversation started, but it it went from him not
wanting to talk to We spent like twenty five minutes
where the the Warriors, literally the Warriors PR people are
coming by like looking at me, and I'm like, why

(59:48):
are you looking at me? He's the one talking, and
I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna have him shut
up if we're having this conversation. So fascinating guy. You
kind of got the sense. I mean, he's very cynical
about the whole the sp wort and the process. And
the one element that he feels is not fully appreciated
is how this Warrior's team over five years, with all

(01:00:11):
of the pressure and all the outside noise, was able
to stay together as a team. And you had a
little rumblings with Katie and Draymond, but for the most part,
like they were able to maintain their chemistry on the inside.
I find it interesting that when David West last year
said you wouldn't believe the things that happened, we never
heard the things that happened. Ye and and yes, and

(01:00:31):
then they like for example, with DeMarcus this year, like
they had to figure out how DeMarcus, there's certain things
this isn't Sacramento and none other things. No, DeMarcus, we
need you to be more of a guy like what
you've been, and that collectively the energy to do that
and still vie for a championship is a challenge. So

(01:00:53):
I think we think of these cataclysmic things, but they're
looking at it from the prism of we're a ampion
and we gotta win another championship. So every little bump
in the road, every pebble under the every other p
under the mattress, feels like a boulder for them because
we gotta find a way to maneuver around this and
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Farmers dot Com. It's crazy on how quickly the draft
came this year, like June twenty is. I don't remember
it ever being that early. Usually it always seemed about
twenty six or twenty five and that. But to have
it on June twenty a week exactly a week from

(01:02:37):
when the finals ended, has really kind of put an
abrupt end to the season. And now we just dive
ahead to what's forward as free agencies on the horizon. Yeah,
it's but that's what the league has become. Honestly, the
attraction to the league has more to do with the transactions.
Who's gonna get who, who's gonna play with? Who where's

(01:02:58):
a guy going to go. I'm not sure that people
watch the game anymore or in love with the game
as much as they're in there in love with the
fantasy aspect of what's who's gonna be where next year?
And what what what? What's that team gonna look like.
I sent out a tweet after the Raptors won the Finals,
saying the top three storylines that week in the NBA

(01:03:20):
were Eighties trade to the Lakers, Kevin Durant's injury, and
Clay Thompson's injury. In that honorable mention was the Raptors
winning the title, because that's what it felt like of
of the stories that salivated. I mean, baseball's hot stove
used to be the off season. No longer, it's all
about the NBA's hot stove. The and the NBA is
eating up more of the sports landscape than it ever

(01:03:43):
has before. The the the the real harbinger for me
was the week before the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl,
the biggest sporting event in the United States. We were
talking Anthony Davis. We're talking about the attempts by the
Lakers to get Anthony Davis. That was what everybody was
talking about the week before the Super Bowl. I had

(01:04:04):
never seen that happen before. You know, what it was
for me was did you see the Summer League game
last night? Like? Like? That was another one of like
And now you're giving out T shirts for winning Summer League.
I am there, and I am in Thomas and mac Arena,
and it is full to the rafters to watch what

(01:04:25):
the latest picks you see. But then a bunch of
guys extraordinary, extraordinary the people that and what Summer League
has become. You're absolutely right. I thought that Summer League
jerseys were going to be a thing because we know
the NBA will have a team where four or five jerseys.
How awesome if you could get the Summer league jersey,
for example, of a Zion Williamson because he used to

(01:04:47):
just be reversible tanks. But if you were to throw
up a Zion Williamson Summer League jersey at the NBA
store in New York City or in New Orleans, we
sold out in a minute. Same thing in Memphis Warriors jerseys.
Those are hard to come by. By the way, Do
you like the modification to the Warrior's jerseys for next season?
They kind of updated the Bay Bridge. There's gonna be

(01:05:08):
a different Bay Jersey. I'm a uniform guy. No, No,
I like that. But you gotta look really long and hard,
and you have to have a sense of bridges to
be able to look at those two units and go,
oh hey, look it's the Golden State Bridge. It's not
the Bay Bridge. Let's see if Andre Goodala gives the
thumbs up on the new Warriors logo as he joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Andre has got a

(01:05:30):
new book coming out on Tuesday called The Six Man.
Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down. Andre to the modified logo
that the Warriors are going to or have unveiled for
next season, I didn't know. I was supposed to see
him and know what they looked like. I have not
seen it. Wait a minute, Andre, with your sensibility when
it comes to fashion, are you telling me that you

(01:05:51):
weren't part of the committee to look at the the
the new logo and say yeah or nay. I would
like to have been, but you know, the powers that
be thought that it wasn't their best injuries to do
whatever they could, which is not including that's a that's
a that's a damn shame because I've seen your I've
seen your your your fashion sense and as anybody who's

(01:06:14):
been in the Warrior's locker room knows, you are on
point when it comes to that. Andrew really appreciate you
taking the time to join us. I just wonder at
this stage you've had a little bit of separation from
what was a tumultuous season, a very emotional season for
you guys. When you look at at everything that you

(01:06:34):
accomplished and didn't accomplish, what is the high and what
is the low as you as you walk away? Um,
I mean not the high. I mean honestly, it was
just the season ending, I think, and ending the way
we fall through the whole playoff series, I mean, from

(01:06:55):
the first round getting a great test from the Clippers
and uh they was like media madness around that, and
Houston of being a team that was you know, they
thought they missed the opportunity the previous season and they
thought they were you know, it's kind of a redemption
series and trying to beat us and then Katie going
down and then how we responded and in Portland's you know, um,

(01:07:19):
a great series of Steph had and Dreymond had Clay
as well, and dealing with injuries, do that series and
nag into the finals and then that whole thing that happened.
It was just that was a true roller coaster ride
of an off season that not too many teams will
ever experience. So just for us to get through all that,
like I was telling Sean Livingston, like it was an accomplishment,

(01:07:42):
Like just getting that far, like no one understands, uh,
what the last five years have taken out of us,
And for us to continue to get through all that
was an accomplishment in itself. Andre goot Dollar joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. It's only been a week
in a day, But what has been this last eight
or nine days after the season ended in the NBA Finals, Well,

(01:08:06):
how what has that period been? Like? It's been a maze.
I played Spyglass Saturday morning, and then I went to
watch the US Open with my good friend Ryan Smith
from Quatrix. Uh. We watched on eighteen the rest of
the day, and then uh then playing my favorite courses
in the Bay on Tuesdays called Metal Club. Aliston McKenzie

(01:08:30):
course is amazing. He did Augusta and he did Patty Tempo,
and then I broke eighty. Uh that back after the season,
I shouted seventy nine in my home course and and
then I had a really good round yesterday. So uh,
if I haven't even a week, it's gonna been like
six days. That's pretty good. Is there a particular I
have to ask, is is there a particular course or

(01:08:51):
or uh, someone you want to play with? What's on
the bucket list when it comes to your your your
golf Valhalla. Well I got a chance to play with
Tony Fee now last Saturday. Uh he was in a
group ahead of me, but he was in our total group.
We had a group of eight. But I got to
see him swing. That was fun. Uh. Rory's my favorite golfer. Uh,

(01:09:11):
like I forced him, maybe uh would be me Rory
Tiger and Pete Myers. Pete Myers and my guy he
got me into golf when I got wait a minute,
the former Bulls guy. You know, we're like family. Our
wives are close friends. And uh we got two young
kids around the same age, so I'll close to his family.

(01:09:34):
He's close to mind. So he got me into golf
and we would have a lot of fun on the
on the course. So two great golfers and two not
so good golfers, so maybe even it out. Okay, I'm
gonna double up with golf questions because I know we
want to talk about the book. But quickly, do you
have do you have access to cypress point? And how
is Tony feel playing on Saturday when he should have
been playing the weekend of the U S Open, like

(01:09:55):
he missed the cut, that's why he was available. How
does something like that happen? So, cy, I haven't played,
but I just scheduled it my guy Rust Woods. I
get him credit. He's getting me out there. We're playing
one of these off days. I gotta make sure my schedule. Yeah,
but I'm getting out there this summer for the first time.
And uh yeah, Tony Fen now Mr Cut. But he's

(01:10:16):
cool with the same guy, Ryan Smith, who's uh uh.
Like I said, he did a company Cardricks and they
got bought out by s A. P Early this year
for a ton of money. So he's in. He's got,
he's he's got, he's in the beat category. He's in
a three comic club now. So uh. He says, of
course I do Utaw jazz games. So he's a big
fan and he loves golf, so he's got a good

(01:10:38):
uh robotex athletes who want some business advice advice from him.
So good guy, good friend. As Dan mentioned, Uh, you
have a book out, Andre Widalo with Carvel Wallace, The
Sixth Man. It's a memoir. Uh. Writing a book is
a big undertaking, and I've always appreciated the opportunity to
talk to you because you look at things through a

(01:11:00):
different prism. I think it's because your entire life experience, uh,
and coming up in basketball is a little different than
the traditional path for a guy who makes it to
the NBA and has the experience that you've had. But
what was the motivation to take on writing a book
and letting people into uh providing the insight to andre

(01:11:22):
Iguidala considering you're you're not always that forthcoming when it
comes to when it comes to the media or letting
people behind the curtain. Yeah, so it was really interesting.
I mean, I think you you hit it on the
hit everything. You just explain. You know, Steve Kirk calls me,
I like to be cynical, so but you're both of
your right. I think it started off as an idea

(01:11:44):
from a business partner and UH, for various reasons for him,
which makes sense, but for me it became it became
therapeutic and it became like therapy session. It was really good, man,
just to reflect on how you know, I always give
a lot of advice and a lot of stories to

(01:12:08):
my young guys. And I've had a lot of other
players or other teams asking for advice or asked me
to work out in the summer, and it's like, whoa,
you know, you don't really understand who you are. Uh.
Sometimes until the things like that happened. You know. I
had a guy, the young kid from Phoenix. He was
a rookie last year. You went to Villanoto, but it's

(01:12:30):
got like a nine foot wingspan wing player. Um. He
told me any game this year. Uh. He was like, man,
I remember, you know I was a kid. I was
crying because Chris Webber took your number and that was
my rookie year. And he was like, I was like
seven years old. I was like, oh my god, like
I'm old. Was it was like you know when you
have those I was having those moments and it's like,

(01:12:52):
you know, this is something that could benefit a lot
of athletes. Uh. But it was really good. For me
just then and and just getting a lot of that
off my chest, and uh, just a different perspective of
how how an athlete can view sports. Like, you know,
people see all the gle it's in the glamour and
they say, you know, you have all this money and

(01:13:14):
you have all this access, so it's it's the greatest
thing in life, but they don't understand the mental strength
that goes into it, or the or the toll the
body takes, Like your body grows, goes through some traumatic
things and I'm thinking about that. It's like, imagine what
it's like to give birth, Like we don't even understand that.
But the same way a woman tries to explain to
a man, like you know, what it's like to give

(01:13:34):
birth is like not the same, but there are parallels
and whether athlete body goes through and what we put
ourselves on the line for and and you know, as
we know, sports it's really a business and that bottom
line is what's most important to those who have vested
invested interest in the sports. And a lot of athletes

(01:13:57):
don't understand that. You know, you see athletes are smarting up.
You know, you see a lot of football players retiring
a little bit earlier, you know, you start to see
load management. Yeah, that's a that's a word that's been
going on around in the NBA a lot. And guys
are just trying to look out for their their their
physical health and uh mental health as well. I know
we've been talking about mental health a lot in the NBA,

(01:14:18):
and I hope it's just not something we just talk about,
um and and and do genuine genuinely address. And we
just wanted to be addressed. And this is something like this.
This helped me mentally, just you know, expressing myself put
it out there. The book is The Sixth Man. Andre
Goo Dollad joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. So
we're just fresh off the heels of the draft. What

(01:14:40):
was your experience like in deciding to enter the draft
when you were leaving Arizona. There are guys who made
out last night and some that maybe fell a lot
farther than than than they would have thought. What was
your experience like when you had that decision that that
guys had went through last night. Yeah, my draft experience
was like that whole thing was kind of crazy. Um
and I talked about the book. I mean, I go

(01:15:01):
back to the first time I got an agent caught
me coming out of the arena in college and I'm
walking to my car and he's like, I'm a Asian
and I just you know, I don't want to break
any rules, but I just want to talk to you.
And I was like, talk to me for what. He
was like, you know, I think you know you got potential.
I'm like, potential for what? Like I had no idea
that I had a chance to go in the NBA

(01:15:26):
then or like in two years. And I was a sophomore,
so I didn't quite get it, you know, you know,
being in college and not understanding how the business of
college basketball works. And you know, I think we were
second in the country in basketball revenue behind Kentucky. Like,
you know, we were the reason why our sports department was,
you know, running as well as it was, and not

(01:15:48):
understanding that, you know, confidence of a nineteen year old
kid it can waiver, and you're trying to keep your
kid there because you know you can exploit them a
little bit more, squeeze the extra year out of him
versus him making the most out of is talent and
going pro. Like you know, a lot of that goes
unnoticed and untalked about. You know what I mean, Um,
you felt exploited at Arizona. I think I'm not saying

(01:16:10):
I was explored personally, but it does happen in sports
where if you're a head coach, how do you get paid?
You get paid by winning, you know, national championship. You
know Blude Ocean's Hall of Famer and what he's been
able to do with all the players. The more success
you have, um, the more value you bring to the university,
the more value you bring to yourself. And year old,

(01:16:33):
you don't know that. So I talked about in the
book just going every day. I can go pro and
I would be a lot to repick. But the message
that I'm getting every day is you know you could
be better, You could be better that the year could
do you better. You know you you know you go
a lottery this year, next year, this year you may

(01:16:53):
not get drafted. I was getting that feedback from some
of my coaches, and then when you reflect on that,
it was like, WHOA, that was a selfish mode of
And you can't blame them because everyone has their own
self motives. You know what I'm saying. It's kind of
like that's how you're surviving. But I'm not knowing this
at nineteen years old. I just know I'm getting two
different messages. I have an agent telling me he wants
to represent me. But all you've been hearing your whole

(01:17:14):
life is as agents are bad. And you know the
school you're going to for college is gonna take you
the manage to have your best interests at heart. So
all those things I explained in the book. Um, ultimately
I go to the draft and uh, then you're trying
to find yourself how you're supposed to act as an
NBA player once you get drafted. You know, how should
your swag be? You know, you're trying to find yourself. Uh,

(01:17:36):
and all those things are throwing at you at a
young age. I mean in one of the businesses. Uh,
it's all that wealth and access being thrown at you
at such a young age, and none of us are
prepped to handle that type of money, especially the backgrounds
will come from. So you know, I talked about it
in the book, So what what won't be in the
book because it just happened. The finals and everything that

(01:17:56):
you guys went through, and I believe as you went
through it it's okay. One thing after another happened, setback
after setback. I'm sure in the midst of it you're
fighting to just try to get the job done. As
you look back, what was the blow or what was
the turning point where it was just too much for

(01:18:16):
you guys to overcome? Well, I don't think it was
ever too much. You just gotta give Toronto Raptors their
their credit. You know, they they championship team. They played
the champions, They carried themselves, the champions, had the work ethic,
they played hard. Every single night. You had a different
guy step up for them outside Kai every single night.
You know, Kyle already had a big Game six, Danny

(01:18:36):
Green had a huge Game three. I believe Pascal had
a huge game one. Uh gassault with slut the whole series.
Um ser Jibaka had a huge Game four. So you
just got to get him credit. Uh. We were fighting
to the end. We mean we were right there, we
were down to with a chance to go up step
gets uh solid. Okay, look with three guys running at him,

(01:19:00):
and you know, we think it's all going in Coach
draws of a great play out of boundc he just
misses and you know, we just fall short by a possession,
you know what I mean, or a couple of inches.
So for it the end the way it did. Um,
you know, we can only be proud of ourselves, uh,
and then just be happy for the Toronto Raptors. So
in going forward, for the last five years, it's been

(01:19:23):
we're playing for a championship now because of the situation
that you're in uncertainty as far as Clay and Katie
et cetera. What what what's the objective next season? Like,
how do you find that new thing to set your
compass by? Well, I mean it's the same thing you
do before you were Um, you were paid to be

(01:19:48):
the short fire champion, you know, when everyone doubted you.
You know, before I came to the Warriors, I was
on the Denver team. We set a team record for
wins in a year. Philly. We weren't supposed to even
get to the playoffs half the time. Um. And we
always to see the expectations. Um, and we just use
that that that doubt is fueled and we're gonna do
the same thing this year. You know, we still I
got one of the best player, top five players in

(01:20:08):
the league, one of the best defenders in the league
and Draymond so, uh, you know, free agency is gonna
be big for us. I think we did well in
the draft. I think we did really well in the draft.
Um So I'm really looking forward to where everybody's going
to get more opportunities, uh, because of what what won't
be there for a while, and we're going to make

(01:20:30):
the most of You saw it in the playoffs with
this this year. You know, Quinn Cook had a huge
game for us, made some huge shots in Game five,
help us get over the hunt. Um I'm looking forward to, Uh,
Damien Jones finally getting over injuries. He had a good
start to the year. He's gonna be a good player.
Um So we got to be confident and your goal,
no matter what, should be towards helping your team win

(01:20:51):
and trying to, you know, play championship caliber basketball. While
you've got a book coming out, The Sixth Man comes
out on Tuesday. You're a finals m v P. You're
a three time world champ. Your greatest accomplishment, though, is
getting the first name Twitter handle. Yeah, I mean happy? Yeah, Like,
were you like the second person to join Twitter? How
does that happen? Andre? That was a gift. I think,
uh I talked about I've been talking about I said

(01:21:13):
in two or three times a day. And and while
we've been chatting about access, and I just access to
booting somebody. I channel my inergery mind and booting somebody
out of I'm going after the guy who has at Dan.
He is on my hit list. Andre, We appreciate it again.
The book comes out this Tuesday, the sixth Man, Andrea

(01:21:33):
Goodalla's memoir, We Appreciate You coming on Fox Sports Radio.
A lot of good stuff and I guess there there's
he's he is so fascinating to talk to. Um. I
went to ask him at one point and he and
he doesn't really like the media buying large because he's
a lot like Gregg Popovich and that he doesn't tolerate

(01:21:55):
like the standard questions. If you come at him from
a little different angle. You saw him like we start
to talk about gall like okay, that this isn't that
something I haven't talked about. It's going to open up
and I we we were talking about the I forget
where the conversation started, but it it went from him
not wanting to talk to We spent like twenty five

(01:22:18):
minutes where the the Warriors, literally the Warriors pr people
are coming by like looking at me, and I'm like,
why are you looking at me? He's the one talking
and I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna have him
shut up if we're having this conversation. So fascinating guy.
You kind of got the sense. I mean, he's very
cynical about the whole the sport and the process. And

(01:22:41):
the one element that he feels is not fully appreciated
is how this Warrior's team over five years, with all
of the pressure and all the outside noise, was able
to stay together as a team. And you had a
little rumblings with Katie and Draymond, but for the most part,
like they were able to main maintain their chemistry on
the inside. I find it interesting that when David West

(01:23:04):
last year said you wouldn't believe the things that happened.
We never heard the things that happened. Ye and and yes,
and then they like for example, with DeMarcus this year,
like they had to figure out how DeMarcus, there's certain
things this isn't Sacramento and none of the things. No, DeMarcus,
we need you to be more of a guy like
what you've been and that collectively the energy to do

(01:23:28):
that and still vie for a championship is a challenge.
So I think we think of these cataclysmic things, but
they're looking at it from the prism of we're a
champion and we gotta win another championship. So every little
bump in the road, every pebble under the every other
p under the mattress, feels like a boulder to them
because we got to find a way to maneuver around

(01:23:49):
this and still stick together. He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer.
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(01:24:12):
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gonna go and unveil a brand new game called Rick
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happening around the world of sports. Hello Isaac, Hello Dan
and Rick plenty, especially in the NBA. The sacrobed O

(01:24:34):
Kings today hiring Hall of famer Joe Dumars is a
special advisor to GM Bloody Divads. Dumars had a really
successful run as the Pistons President of Basketball Operations for
thirteen seasons, teams that advanced to six straight Eastern Conference Finals,
NBA Finals in two thousand four and two thousand five,
and of course they won it all in two thousand

(01:24:55):
and four. A short time ago, the schedule for the
NBA's law Us Vegas Summer League was announced, and not surprisingly,
guess what the headline matchup is on opening night July five,
Zion Williamson and the Pelicans against r J. Barrett and
the New York Knicks. I'm sure that was purely coincidental.

(01:25:19):
I will Unfortunately, I don't think Zion is gonna play,
so maybe Jackson Hayes versus r J. Barrett doesn't have
quite the same sizzle. Well speaking, of sizzle in case
you're in the mood for a taco in Las Vegas.
NBA draft expert Jonathan Givoni just reported that Taco Fall
will sign an Exhibit ten contract with the Boston Celtics,

(01:25:44):
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(01:26:04):
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Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug. I told Cody Bellinger

(01:27:07):
of the Dodgers once, if you don't want people to
recognize you, just wear your own jersey around town because
they'll say no way as a player wearing his own jersey.
I guess I was proven wrong by Haave Bayez, who's
in full uniform in this cub's uniform probably spikes as well.
That'd be hard to drive. I've tried to driving golf
shoes and it just yeah, you can do it like

(01:27:27):
it's it's fine. It's just not normal. Right. Do you
wear shoes when you surf? Do you have like a
surfing shoes or is at all barefoot? I've never surfed.
You you can wear booties sometimes when when the water
is too cold. Ideally you want to go barefoot because
you can you can feel the board. But yeah, you
can go. You can go booties, but you're not wearing
you're wearing you're not wearing timberlands. That might be a

(01:27:49):
little challenge. That would be awesome, That would be amazing.
It would be a good luck. I've actually seen guys
surf like in A friend of mine was a big
dairy rice fan. He went out one time in a
rice to put it over his wet suit, went out there. Yeah,
it is a unique look. Just one of the things
you learned about Rick Buker, and you're gonna learn a
lot more in a brand new game. We like to
call Rick or treats Rick Springfield providing the audio. So

(01:28:13):
John Romison is our technical producer. Hi, Rick, Hey, John's
gonna have to determine if these scenarios happened to you
or to Rick Pettino. Who is they? Yeah, so what
I'm just glad we're doing it this way and it's
not what's happened to Rick Pottino or happened to me.
That could get a little dangerous. Okay, John, are you

(01:28:34):
ready to play Rick or treats, Yes, Rick or treat?
I am ready? Okay? Who wants yelled at his team
telling them that Larry Bird and Kevin McHale are not
walking through that door? Is that Rick Buker or Rick Pettino.
I'm gonna say this is just a leap of faith.
Now that is Rick Pettino. That is correct? All right?
Good job John one for one? Yeah, John is going

(01:28:56):
for a perfect game. Nobody else talked to him right now? Okay,
Rick Buker, Rick Pettino? Which one had German as their
first language? That's a good question. I'm gonna say, Rick Buker,
that is correct. How that would have been Rick Pettino

(01:29:17):
might have been Italian first language? How did you speak German?
My parents took me over there in first generation American.
They took me over when I was just learning to speak,
and we were over there for about two and a
half months, and when I came back, that was the
only thing I knew. All right, Well, what Rick Bettino
or Buker spells his name without a K. I think

(01:29:42):
that's Rick Buker. Why why is there? Okay? My uh,
my formal name is Richard and so at one point
I looked at it, and I said, where's the cake
come from? Yeah? Okay, Rick is supposed to be short
for Richard. Let's not waste the ink. I always got
messed up with Jonathan, like why if you're just John,

(01:30:03):
why do you should just be j O N? Right?
Why is that John? Why do you go are you
a j oh? Well? I did not add to my
parents out of it. Yes I have j O h N.
But he's you, Jonathan, it is. That's why. That's why
you can have the ape. Okay, John, Rick Pettino or
Rick Buker who allegedly paid recruits to come and play

(01:30:26):
for him. Was that Rick Buker or Rick Pettino? You
know what, before you answer away, I did coach. So
I'm gonna not that right here. I'm gonna say Rick Pettino,
that is correct. Well, he's coached too. On the wire
taps from the FBI, coach two A is who they
believe Rick Pettino is. He says that he didn't do it,

(01:30:48):
but allegedly that's why I used the word allegedly. John
is four for four. Rick Pettino or Rick Buker had
Animal House. The the movie Animal House based on their fraternity.
Was it, Rick Petino or Rick Bucker. That's a good one.
I'm gonna say Rick Buker, that is correct, well well done,

(01:31:10):
Christopher said chance Rick Chris Miller wrote wrote Animal House
and he was a member of Alpha Delta at Dartmouth College. There.
It is that simple as that. Plus I think Pettino
is probably a few years back. Al right, okay, Rick Buker,
Rick Pettino who plays jazz blues piano. Rick Buker, Rick Pettino.

(01:31:34):
It's getting harder now. Um, you know this is just
a shot in the dark. I'm gonna say, Rick Buker,
that is correct, done, well done, a little yes, mckys.
You know who else? Rick Carlisle very good had a
chance to sit in and jam with him a couple
of times. All right, January perfect. I think seven for
seven on this. You're killing it, yeah, Rick Buker, Rick Pettino,

(01:31:57):
who claimed he had no knowledge of his assistant coaches
or Jing Booker's for recruits. Again, you did mention that,
But I'm gonna go Rick Portino on this one. That
is correct. But he didn't know about it. Who do
you know about it? They're off doing their own thing. Yeah,
who knew. I can't watch these guys seven. I can

(01:32:24):
recruit them fair enough, fair enough too, for two or
two more to go for a perfect game. I think
you're eight for eight here. You made me six for six.
I lost track Rick Pucker or Rick Pettino who was
All State in Ohio, an all state performer in Ohio.

(01:32:48):
I'm gonna say, Rick Puker, that is correct. Look at you,
soccer player. By the way, we did not the answers
prior to this, And I can see the wheels turn
earning on the other side of the glass night and
I want to say something Rick and Dando's this. I've
never fed anything on these games. This is all just pure.

(01:33:08):
If I knew the answer, if it wouldn't be great. Yes,
Rick Pettino is part of this part of this game,
but it is pure. Otherwise, all right, John, for the
perfect game? Are you ready? Rick Buka Rick Pettino, who
was the center of an extortion attempt by a woman
he had an affair with, including spending time in an

(01:33:29):
Italian restaurant kitchen. I'm gonna go for the boy. You
better get this one. I'm gonna go for the fastball.
Just on the inside corner of the play for strike three,
Rick Pettino, John ramos Hi, Hey Ted for Ted very good.

(01:33:51):
I could have said, I could have said who started
Dartmouth or who played at Dartmouth as a soccer player?
Did you start at Dartmouth? When I would not say
I played four years varsity? But I would not say
that I was ever a star and I and I
also left out who just turned down an opportunity to
return to Greece because he wants to return to the NBA.
That would be Rick Pattino al right on the weekend,

(01:34:16):
on a on a winning note, Rick or treat or treat.
By the way, if you noticed Rick John is a
master at what he does. You had Rick Springfield, Rick Astley,
and Rick James playing. Did I miss anyone else? Because
we've gotta ad Rick okasick because he actually spells his
name the same way. That's correct. The cars, But I
didn't get that far the game ended. Yeah, that was

(01:34:37):
my next one. Well, that's right, Who's gonna drive you
home tonight? He doesn't sing on that song, though there's
there's the car's reference. All right, this is the Doug
Gottlieb Show. At least it's back being the Doug Gottleib
Show because that was Rick or Treat. He's Rick Buker.
I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug today. Find Rick
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Coming up next, has the Knicks offseason begun or ended?

(01:35:01):
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(01:35:44):
this game right now. And it's not even a game.
I don't even know why I called it a game.
Nobody's gonna win anything, nobody's playing anything. We're just gonna
play audio Rick, that was my bad. That was six
by me. But this is the time of the show
where Doug likes to take something interesting from Fox Sports
Wonder Fox Sports Radio, replay it back and respond to it.

(01:36:04):
And this was Nick right earlier today on First Things
First on FS one, talking about the Knicks off season.
The Knicks have a very clear plan and if that
plan ends up being derailed because Kevin Durant came back
to play too early, because Kevin Durant sports wise tragically
shredded as achilles tendon, it won't be their fault, but

(01:36:27):
it will still be a failure. Like not all failures
you have to blame someone for. It's not always someone
screwed up. Sometimes you just get incredibly unlucky. But the
plan is, you get a guy at number three, you
sign one of the very best players in the world.
Ideally someone else comes with that guy, but that part

(01:36:48):
doesn't have to happen. But yeah, if the Nicks walk
out of this offseason without one of the very top
free agents Katie at the top of the list along
with Kauai and then you could argue Kyrie and Kimba.
If they go over four on those, then I think
the Knicks would feel like, even if they don't blame
themselves for it, this summer that we have built for

(01:37:09):
for a few years ended up going as poorly as
we could have imagined. Is it a failure then if
the Knicks don't cash in on one of those top
free agents. No, the true failure is if they decide
we have all this money and we have to spend
it no matter what. So let's go get Kemba Walker
on a max deal, even though he's not a max player.

(01:37:29):
Let's give Tobias Harris a max contract because we need
something to show for the fact that we had all
this cap room. Yes, we started out going after k
D and Kauai, but we couldn't get those guys. So
what does this sound like? It sounds like two thousand
and ten when we're gonna go after Lebron James. We're
gonna go after Dwyane Wade. Oh we can't get those guys. Okay,

(01:37:53):
what about a broken down to Mari Stodomyer. Will will
that satisfy you? Will that work because we need to
have a star. That to me would be the mistake.
And it's the mistake that the New York Knicks have
made over and over and over again. I will say
something because I vividly remember it. And it I was
at a friend of mine's wedding in Soho in November

(01:38:18):
in and the lockout had just ended, and I'm talking basketball,
and I stayed with the guy. Okay, so hold on
a second before you continue that that is the sign
of a of a pure and sincere sports nut, and
that you just described this very monumental social occasion and
it's the setup for a sports story. And and I

(01:38:41):
I said to him, I said, tell me crazy, I
like Stotomyer more than Mellow. Like that's what now looking
back at it, maybe, but like at the time, I'm like,
I really love you, know, I love the MARII and
you're but you're not alone. Amari came in. I felt badly.
I felt badly for him because he came He was

(01:39:01):
the guy who was willing to take the Knicks money
and the and the mantle, and he had them as
a nice team right they were they were they were
going to play for a championship. But he embraced all
that came with that. And then they basically, well, Jim Dolan, basically,
I can get Carmelo Anthony and and I and more important,

(01:39:22):
I gotta make sure that michaal prokeer off with the
nets doesn't get because he just put a billboard like
outside of my offices with him and Jay Z on it,
like I gotta make sure he doesn't get it. And
then he sold the farm to get Carmelo Anthony and
screwed it all up. It was as as time went on,
like there was it was kind of like a roller
coaster ride where it looked really bad and then it

(01:39:43):
didn't look as bad as the Carmelo tenure happened, Like
it kind of got less worse for me as time
went on. But there was a point where it was
just a really bad look when they when you had
Chauncey Billips there, and I remember this distinctly. I remember
them going down to Miami and they had a big
win over the Heat at that time, and I was
I did sideline for that game, and I remember having

(01:40:05):
Carmelo on one side of me and Chauncey on the other,
and it was this big game and they thought, Okay,
you know this, this was a signature win, and you
got that feeling like they could be something. But as
soon as you took Chauncey away from that team and
now Carmelo was the leader of the team, It's the
same as Kyrie Irving being the leader of the team.
You love the talent, he just can't be your best

(01:40:27):
player and your leader. You need to keep him in
the role that best fits him. And if he's going
to be the leader, he's going to take your team sideways.
He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer. So if they do
strike out, what options then do they go? If they
if they are to avoid giving money to just someone
for the sake of giving money, it's just what a

(01:40:48):
bunch of guys on short term deals or that you
do a little bit of what the Lakers did this
past year in terms of maintaining your cap space. You
allow R. J. Barrett to row, Kevin Knox to grow,
Mitchell Robinson to grow. Because I look, I know that
there's an urgency and there's paying paying the sins for
the previous Knicks regimes, but that's not a reason to

(01:41:12):
make the same mistakes they made, which is, let's go
spend the money and try to grasp something that's gonna
make us a playoff team now rather than being smart
and taking another swing out it next year. I'm very
curious on what it's going to be like. It's going
to happen at some point, but what it's going to
be like when the Knicks are good again, because it's
been so long of like legit of not just hey,

(01:41:35):
we came in as the eighth seed, but of being
really good. I don't even know how to imagine that.
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(01:42:40):
breaking down the selections from last night. You can hear
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the NBA teams and what happened, Rick, but I do
think a conversation that I saw on Twitter and social
media last night is worth bringing up on the heels

(01:43:24):
of what happened last night in the NBA draft, and
it's the value of what college basketball did for a
majority of the players who entered last night's draft. And
I look at last night. For every Bowl Bowl that
you see or nasire little who may have dropped in
the draft, you see a Kobe White jump up to
a top ten pick. I don't know if Kobe White

(01:43:45):
is going to be there. You see players that made
their name. Maybe Carson Edwards isn't a second round pick.
Maybe Carson Edwards it doesn't have that tournament run and
he's an undrafted free agent p but he ends up
being an early pick for all of the negatives of
people saying this bull Bowl could have been a top
ten pick, but now he fell to the second round

(01:44:07):
because he could have gone in last year. I think
that there there are positives to it, and so I
look at last night of being I felt that college
basketball was one of the winners because of the elevation
of someone like heck A John Morant at Murray State
or at Kobe White at North Carolina being picked in
the top ten. I know there are sad stories, but

(01:44:28):
with the sad stories, there are guys that are always
moving up as well. Yeah, no, it it benefits some
and others. You know, I would look at a bull
bowl and it's you either were going to discover this
now or you were going to discover it when he
got to the NBA. It might have been better for
him a year early. Uh, they're Felipe Lopez going back

(01:44:51):
a few years. If he had come straight out of
high school, then he probably would have been a lottery pick.
You know, he ends up having a different career and
getting picked at a different play because he did go
to college and he got exposed a little bit. So
so much of this is being selected on potential and
but but it doesn't change. Like the reason that Bull

(01:45:14):
Bull dropped wasn't because he was made a worse player
in the n b A or I mean in college,
it was that they got a better sense of what
he is and what he isn't and made a more
educated decision among the guys that have played at college
and suddenly dropped. If there were guys that did that

(01:45:37):
and then suddenly flourished and you're like, oh my gosh, boy,
they they got him way below his value, then I
would say, Okay, that's a mistake. But the reality is,
usually when guys dropped, there's a reason and they don't
make good on what they were previously thought to be.
And it's not a this guy dropped and is not

(01:45:59):
going to get the money, so no one gets it.
Someone gets it. Someone always gets it. And that's why
I say, like the the v and flow of it
is you can point out these instances. Nas Read was
a five star center out of l s U. Is
a part of the college basketball scandal for allegedly maybe
taking money to go to L s U. And now
he doesn't get drafted at all, and and maybe if

(01:46:20):
he goes in last year he's a high pick. But
it did expose those certain things, like there's so many
college basketball themes that were going on last night of
because college basketball has been so under the microscope, I
am not a pay college athletes guy. I think you
should be able to make money off of your likeness,
because I just in business. If your business is failing,

(01:46:41):
you go out of business. A majority of the college sports,
a vast majority of the college sports, don't make money,
so they wouldn't even be in business if it wasn't
for a football program keeping them afloat. So I don't
mind of a football guy goes out as a quarterback,
signs and a car dealership for I have no problems
with that. But last night it just seemed to magnify
so many different things that if you didn't like college basketball,

(01:47:02):
you were pointing the Bull Bowl and nas read. If
you're a college basketball fan, you're pointing to Kobe White
and John Morantom. Yeah. Well, we can always find the
elements that are going to support whatever are are thinking
is right. There's two parts to this number. One going high.
There is the benefit of being drafted high because once
a team makes an investment in you like that a

(01:47:26):
high draft pick, your margin of error is greater. They're
going to You're gonna get more leash to show that
you can play because you're guaranteed a certain rookie salary
scale and and they you're an asset. Now they invest
in a high pick in you, and so it's a
lot easier. Basically, if a second a late first round pick,

(01:47:49):
or a second round pick doesn't measure up, it's really
easy to say, hey, it's good, good, no, and you
thanks for coming. If you're a lottery pick, that that
GM has to justify why he took you. The head coach,
if he had a pardon, it has to justify why
he signed off on taking that player. You have to

(01:48:09):
show the owner that you know what you're doing or
now your job's at jeopardy. So that filters down to
the players opportunity. The other part of it is, and
we're going to see that with so many guys in
this year's draft, it really has to do with did
the right team pick you and did they understand what
it is that you're capable of doing and they're gonna

(01:48:32):
put you in your sweet spot to succeed. I would
say that of the players that are drafted, when we
look at guys and we say, oh, you know like
the San Antonio Spurs, Oh look at their record. They
get these guys and they're a success, and and we
think it's because they see talent that other people don't see. No,

(01:48:56):
Dwan Blair worked there when he didn't work anyplace else
because they knew what he was and they wasn't and
they and they just asked him to do what he
could do. The second to want Blair thought, I'm more
than this is the second that san Antonio said, sorry,
you go find your find someplace else to play. And

(01:49:17):
that's the secret is being able to look at a
guy and accurately assess what he's capable of doing and
then see that he has a place in your system
to do that thing, and then he's gonna be viewed
as successful, even though overall he may not be a
better player the I don't want to say competence. But

(01:49:37):
we had Matt Barnes in earlier this week, and Matt
was the second round pick and was drafted by Memphis
and immediately traded and took a couple of years for
him to get into the NBA than he was here.
He was here for fifteen years, so he was he
was a success story. But what I asked Matt was,
when you're a second round pick in the NBA draft,

(01:49:59):
in the NFL. If you're a late seventh rounder, you
kind of want to pick where you want to go.
You would rather not be drafted because you can find
your fit. The second round is such a crapshoot because
you may go forty seven, so your value is higher,
but there may be a team at fifty that could
have used you when you're used as something else for
a team at forty seven, So finding that second round

(01:50:21):
of when you're a second round pick, it's really a
crap shoot because there may have been a team that
really could have used you or used that second round player,
if you will, where somebody else is just going to
draft you and use you to move around. Well, that's
why it's really important. That's where an agent can be
vital in terms of having relationships because there's a lot
of conversation that goes on prior and if your agent

(01:50:44):
understands the business, and again, your agent almost has to
be a talent scout. He has to understand who you
are as a player and know that you know what
this is the organization. For example, you know had two
more of the Wizards, never had a conversation with him.
I can tell you I know a number of players
where their agents said, no, we're not gonna let you
work out our guy because we don't want our guy

(01:51:07):
to go to you right now because your team is
a mess. We don't know who's going to be running it. Uh,
you know the setup that they have right now where
Tommy Shepherd is going to run the show and and
free agency. And I like Tommy, I'd have no problem
he got the job, but for God's sake, just give
him the job. At this point, the idea that you're
going to have him conduct your draft, conduct your free agency,

(01:51:31):
and then you might go hire somebody else to play
the hand that Tommy Shepherd selected doesn't make any sense.
And so because of that, agents are looking that and saying, yeah,
you know what, No, we were our guys not gonna
come work out. You can draft him if you want.
But they were basically trying to discourage their players from

(01:51:52):
ending up there. It's so stupid that at least two
NFL teams did that this year in the NFL. So yeah, yeah,
the Jets moving on and the Texans moving on. It's
it's it's crazy to think. By the way, let me
let me just put this number. Because this was discussed
earlier this week and you mentioned the Spurs I had
spoken with with with Matt Barnes and Dante Jones about
them developing players competent front offices. When you say of

(01:52:18):
the teams like wouldn't have taken a Dwan Blair and
known how to use him, I know, competent is is
a is a strong word. Let's just put it this way.
How many elite front offices do you think there are
in the NBA. It's different. I'm gonna say, well, elite.
I'm not even having you name names six So, but
this is the challenge. There are there are guys out

(01:52:40):
there that know what they're doing, but they have owners
who won't necessarily let them do it or for example,
and this is the case with the Knicks, and there
are many the Carmelo Anthony situation, like Donnie Walsh knew
what he was doing. He was built a team Jim

(01:53:02):
Dolan had, I believe at the time, I want to
say it was at least four, It may have been
five guys who had general manager experience. Aside from Donnie Wall,
she had like Glenn Grunwald h there was a couple
other guys that were gms. When the deal with Carmelo
Anthony to to trade basically everything the Knicks had and

(01:53:25):
then some for Carmelo. Carmelo Anthony went down. Jim Dolan
walked into a room at the All Star Game in Denver.
If I'm not now, I take it back in Dallas,
and he was alone. It was just Jim Dolan, and
he walked in and Carmelo and his business manager were there,

(01:53:48):
and Josh Cronky and Messiah Jerry were there, and Jim
Dolan made the deal himself, and basically Massi and the
Nuggets kept saying, Okay, that's good, but we need this too,
Like they were asking for two first round picks. The
Nicks only had one. They said, okay, well if you can't,

(01:54:09):
if you can't, if you can't give us two first
round picks, then you gotta give us Timothy Moskoff too.
And at one point Carmelo's business manager said, damn man,
you're not leaving us with anything, and and and Dolan
basically at one point supposedly like pulled his pockets out
and said, I got nothing else to give you. Now,
you had all of these gms, you had all of

(01:54:31):
these decision makers, and these and these deal makers and
Jim because he had one thing in mind, I have
to have Carmelo Anthony and have to make sure that
the nets don't get Carmelo Anthony. He gave away the
farm and that's that's where do you put that on?
Donnie Walsh? You put that on anybody in the management
and and there are more. Jim Dolan's not the only one.
I mean Ryan McDonald with with with Robert Sarver. You

(01:54:54):
look at everything that's transpired. You know everybody wants to
kill Ryan McDonald. But the reality is when you of
an owner like that, who you know, on on the
on the eve of free agency, decides to bring a
herd of goats into your office because he wants because
he likes the analogy of I want you to find

(01:55:15):
me a goat as in the greatest of all time.
That's what's actually happened. That actually happened. I have the
photos to prove it. Oh boy, those uh maybe for
another time. He is the goat. Rick Buker, I'm Dan Buyer.
This is the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
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now he's the commissioner of the Big Three. Clyde Drexler

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Drexler joins us year on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Clyde,

(01:56:21):
thanks so much for taking the time on a busy weekend.
We appreciate it. Hey, guys, delighted to be here. So
this is this is expanding, like the Big Three is.
Maybe you should call it the Bigger Three because it
seems on getting bigger and bigger. You'll have games this
weekend in Detroit and also in Indianapolis. What has allowed
you guys to to grow to expand this league the

(01:56:43):
way that it has been where you're playing in two
different sites on the same weekend. What's the biggest reason
you guys have been able to grow well? I think,
first of all, with Jeff Quants and ice Cube developed
the Big Three, the number one team was real, big
time professional basketball, and so that's what people want to
see outside of the NBA. It's the best basketball played

(01:57:04):
in the whole world. And and that's not a bias opinion,
that's a fact. Because you've got NBA All Stars that
are coached by NBA Hall of famers and we got
the first professional men's league that has two ladies coaching
in our league head coaches, and so we're breaking new ground.
We're doing incredible things that that you know, the games

(01:57:24):
are fast and furious, played by great in NBA All
Stars and young players that can really play. Every game
is very competitive, and uh, at at a Big Three event, guys,
you never know who's going to be there. A lot
of celebrities show up and every now and then at
halftime or time out, your favorite entertainer may be able
to sing one of your favorite songs right there in

(01:57:45):
the arena. And so the Big Three is unlike any
other event. Clyde. We we've seen the age limit uh
slide down town now in terms of guys coming in.
And I've talked to a couple of the vets that
are in the league. They're like, Man, I hope it
doesn't go any lower than this, because it's gonna be
This is gonna be problematic in the big picture. Where

(01:58:07):
do you guys want to go with the Big Three?
Do you still see it as a post NBA career
place for guys to play, or do you want to
evolve beyond that? Well, I think it's involvement on its own.
Beyond that, It's never been old man's basketball. It was
always very competitive, even in year one. But now with
the AIG's limit down to twenty seven, we can get

(01:58:30):
guys who are not basted, guys who have been playing internationally,
who were still very young and very talented, trying to
make the NBA or just just short. Those are the
guys we want, and so professional three on three is
not to be confused with five on five, but it
is a great game. It's very competitive, and when you
come to a Big Three event, guys, remember you have

(01:58:52):
three games that you watch, and all three games will
be very competitive. First one is halftime. The game ends
when the team reaches fifty points, and so there's no
clock other than a shot clock which is fourteen seconds.
But the games came last thirty minutes or one hour,
and so their action type and the games are a
lot of fun. Clyde Drexley joining us here on Fox

(01:59:14):
Sports Radio. He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer, sitting in
for Doug Gottlieb here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Rick
and I have been talking about last night's NBA Draft
and the things that have gone on, and just on
how we view the draft differently than we did, say
years ago, when you were a player, whether it be
in Portland or or with your championship teams with the Rockets.
As a player, when your team was bringing in draft picks,

(01:59:37):
what did you expect from those rookies when they were
coming in Because you played on some some really really
good teams, what was your expectations back then for guys
when they were coming into the league and how they
contributed to your team. What one game we know is
everybody who's ever played the NBA has been a draft choice,
and so we've gone through that system. And it's a
wonderful thing because that's your dream to play in the

(01:59:58):
NBA against the best players in the world and then
the Big Three. I mean, it's it's the best in
the world. And so they're gonna be very few jobs
because it's highly coveted. And so when I was in
the NBA, whenever we had rookie is the only thing
I thought about. It's gonna take them three or four
years before we know if they can play or not,
or before they can really contribute. But are they good guys?

(02:00:20):
Are they gonna bring the doughnuts? Are they gonna carry
the ball? I've just been a comedian, But you know
they're going to be the future of the franchise, obviously,
and so you want to get them off to a
good start by giving them knowledge, helping them out in
any way you can, and helping them becoming the best

(02:00:41):
professionals that they can be, because guess what, somebody did
that for you, and so you owe it to these
young guys to help in their development. It's amazing, Clide
that you talk about it taking three or four years
in your time, because players stayed in college longer than
and it feels like their games were were developed before
they got to the pro level. When you watched the

(02:01:03):
production of Last Night, compare just the draft and all
of the hoop law around it too. When you were drafted,
what was your experience when you were picked by what
it was a fourteen by the by the Trailblazers. Yeah,
it was a good experience. But you know, I was
supposed to go in the top three pick, and so
I was a little disappointed. And I had a chance

(02:01:25):
to go to Detroit. I think Detroit picked Antoine Carr,
who was a very good player. I had a chance
to go to the Nick with a twelve pick and
they picked like Darryl Walker, and I'm sitting there going, wow,
this draft thing is really uh. I mean, there are
some good players, but there are a lot of players
who didn't have the credentials that you had who were

(02:01:46):
going ahead of you. And so you just I realized
at that moment that you know, you're just gonna have
to prove the people you know what kind of game
you have. So that's what it's all about. Getting better.
It's all about getting better. Clyde Drexler joining us here.
He's the Ivision are the Big three as the season
tips off this weekend. Saturday, they'll be playing in Detroit,
games broadcast live on CBS at eight o'clock Eastern time,

(02:02:08):
and then Sunday games will be played in Indianapolis, airing
on CBS at one Eastern and then on the CBS
Sports Network at three o'clock Eastern time. So there's kind
of a mess going on in Houston. How did James
Harden and Chris Paul work together with the Rockets? Is
is that situation unsalvageable as was reported earlier this week? Well, guys,

(02:02:29):
I'll tell you what. James Harden and Chris Paul I
know them both personally. I do the TV broadcast for
the Rockets the home games when I'm in town, and
I don't see any problem. I think the major problems
they have is trying to find a way to beat
the Golden State War. I think if that problem was
not there, we wouldn't be talking about this problem. Right. Well,

(02:02:51):
that problem, that code, that problem, No longer exists as constituted,
because whether they bring back Katie and Clay or not,
the fact is those ays aren't gonna be available next year,
and I'm not sure this team is going to be
the same. So with that in mind, what are the
prospects if the Rockets just come and run it back
and you look at the Western Conference right now, what
do you expect from them? If they running back and

(02:03:14):
they and they actually uh do it with confidence and
knowing that they can get better like they had the
year before. I think they can make it to the
Western Conference finals. I really believe that. But they're gonna
be like the Lakers are obviously going to be better
they got Anthony David. I actually think the Jazz are
going to be better with Mike Conley. Uh. I think

(02:03:36):
there's always gonna be some surprise teams, whether that's the
Spurns or the Blazers, But the Rockets are one of
the best in the Western Conference. What they've got to
do is regain their composure running back and just say, hey,
let's give ourselves a three or four year window or
we can try to win this and not overreact because
you're not having touchant right away. Clyde. What does James

(02:03:58):
Harden have to do, if anything, to take the next
step and be a part of a championship caliber team. Well,
James Harden is a winner. Guys, I watched that guy.
He's a hooper. He doesn't take nights off. He never
wants to like sit down and rest and have load
management whatever that is. James is an old school baller.

(02:04:20):
He wants to be on the floor. He wants to
help his team. And this is this guy was thirty
six points a game this season. That's phenomenal. The last
got to do that was Michael Jordan's So it tells
you a lot about how good he is. Oh, they
gotta do is find a way to get guys in
a system to help him out, because if you're open,
he will find you. He is not a selfish player,

(02:04:41):
you know, has he ever been? James is one of
those guys. He'll do anything to win. He plays defense,
he passes the ball, and he scores. He beats teams
by himself. And he doesn't do that because he wants
to a lot of time. He does that because he
has to. So if they give him a little bit
more help. Chris Paul has been phenomenal. He still got
a lot left in the tank, and the Rockets will

(02:05:02):
be a very dangerous team if they just run it back.
I'll wrap up with this. Do you know that I
had Clyde Drexler Drexler's dream team Jersey when I was Yes, yes,
everybody with uh not everybody. You saw some Jordan's ones,
you saw some bird ones, you saw some magic I
would get the Clyde Drexler number ten if I'm correct. Yes, yes,

(02:05:24):
I had the USA basketball Plus he was teammates a
Terry Porter who was you know, played school in Wisconsin.
So yeah, follow the Blazers. Yeah, why didn't you mention
that at the beginning of the interview? This has been
an entirely different what's the best dream team story you
can give us? Since that was just a great moment
in time, guys, you know, it was an honor to

(02:05:46):
be on that team, the best basketball team ever assembled,
and the players on that team were just historic, uh,
and they were all great guys, and so we had
a great bonding moment because back then, you gotta remember
the player and East didn't really know the players in
the West. And back then, if you had on a
different Jersey. We really didn't like you anyway, you know what.

(02:06:09):
But here's the thing, Clyde. We talked about the guys
today and the camaraderie and guys wanted to play together,
and that it wasn't like that in your generation. And
I've always felt that the Dream Team put the lie
to that, because when you guys had the first opportunity
to hang out and get to know each other on

(02:06:30):
the level that these guys do on the au level,
it changed relationships. Magic Larry were not the same. It
was there was a camaraderie that grew among you. What
do you think of that theory that if you guys
had come up the way these guys had, you'd be
exactly the same way they were. But you know, there's
something to be sad for that. But we weren't. We

(02:06:52):
were taught that you know, the team that drafted you,
they say the personality say yes, and if you if
you're on that team, you you know they drafted you,
then you had loyal team to that team until they
traded you or something happened. But but we weren't trying
to go just to play, you know, when when we
were good in Portland, uh I didn't want to just

(02:07:12):
go to Boston and play with Bird. I mean, come on,
we wanted to beat their butts. We wanted to kill them.
We didn't want to play with him. We want to
show we can beat them. We're better. But you need talent.
And think about Bird and Magic. And I tell people
this all the time. Look who they had playing with
They were really good playing some of the best to
ever do it. But look who they had playing with you.
They didn't have any reason to want to go play

(02:07:33):
someplace exactly why would they say anything? Are you kidding?
And I used to tell Magic all the time, Magic,
you're pretty good. You think you're good, and you are? You?
All that an a bag of chips because he was phenomenal.
But I said, let's trade teams. Let me give you
these two guys on a ten day contract and let
me play with Kareem Worthy and Michael Thompson all these
number one draft picks. And then he actually did it.

(02:07:56):
You went and played with a Kiman Ring, got the ring.
You know, the great teams franchise have always had great players,
and you're lucky when you're on the team that's like that.
That makes basketball really a lot of fun. Hard to
believe it was to a lot of years ago. Big
Three again launching this weekend eighteen cities over the course

(02:08:19):
of an eleven weeks season, three games played at each
venue and again Saturday in Detroit on CBS, Sunday in
Indianapolis games on CBS and CBS Sports Network. Good luck
with the Big Three this summer, and thanks so much
for the Ti'm glad we appreciate it. You guys, continue
success to all of you. Clyde Drexler joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. I know that he was talking

(02:08:42):
about the Lakers and Celtics, but they have Terry Porter,
to have Jerome Kersey Buck like Kevin Duckworth, you know,
like so good Portland teams as well, and then you
talk about the titles that he won with the Rocket.
Yeah there's also I mean, look, he had a he
had a great he had a great run in two
different places. Portland is just such a unique, intense basketball place,

(02:09:05):
as you mentioned, you know, it's the only game in
town professionally really that you that you have there, and
so they embrace that that those players, like nothing else.
Cly Huxeler will always have a place in their hearts there,
and I don't know that you can say that about
every franchise the guy plays for. Well A New York's

(02:09:27):
got tons of teams, including two in the NBA. Which
one is going to get the best of the other?
This soft season will tell you next. He's Rick Buker.
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug gottlib Show. Thank
you very much. Isaac and Isaac Lowan Crown will join
this in about ten minutes as we do the press
to wrap up the show here on Fox Sports Radio.
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. He's Rick Buker. I'm
Dan Buyer. We played a clip from Nick right about

(02:09:49):
forty minutes or so ago on Fox Sports One saying
on first things first that if the Knicks don't make
a splash and free agency with one of the bigger
free agents, it's a losing offseason. Well, the Nets have
a lot of money over in Brooklyn and their off
season is very intriguing. Continue considering we we are putting
Kyrie Irving in Brooklyn. We don't know how many meetings

(02:10:11):
Kauai is gonna get, but there's reports that Brooklyn will
at least get one. Brooklyn cleared some space last night
to get to max deals that didn't make a first
round pick. And yet the story of the draft. Is
Brooklyn the real player here in in this NBA free
agency offseason that we are going to have or is it?
Or is it still I guess player power if you will, Yeah, No,

(02:10:33):
it's it's player power. And they're in the position that
they're in. They're an intriguing position, largely because Kyrie has
in various ways demonstrated that that's where he wants to be.
And so the question now is can he bring k
D along with him? And and those guys I know

(02:10:55):
have met twice since the end of the season in
person to discuss their interest in playing together and the
regular season and of the regular season. Shortly after Katie
had his cast train, Kyrie flew out to the Bay
Area and they met. And then shortly after Katie had

(02:11:16):
his surgery in New York, Kyrie went to see him,
and I believe he was already out of the hospital then,
but they met again to talk about their desire to
play together. And this is something that's been going on
for for months in terms of their interests, maybe even
years from their team, their time together playing on the
national team. The rub is from everything that I've heard

(02:11:40):
is that Kyrie wants them to join forces with the
Brooklyn Nets. K D has all the connections with the
New York Knicks. Royal Ivy, uh Texas alum played with
him at Okay see those get Katie is the godfather
of Royal Ivy's daughter. Uh Scott Perry. The GM was

(02:12:02):
the assistant GM when the Seattle franchise drafted k D.
DeAndre Jordan, who played for the Knicks last year, is
a good friend of Katie's. Like he's bought a bought
a place in in in New York. Everything is he
wants them to join forces with the Knicks. So one

(02:12:22):
of two things is going to happen. Either these guys
are not going to play together, or one of them
is going to be playing for a team that is
not their first choice. Why is Brooklyn over the Knicks
for Kyrie? Is it just uh, that's where he's from,
grew up there, has a connection with his dad. I

(02:12:46):
there's if I'm not mistaken, he just moved to Rock Nation.
Jay z Is has that connection. Obviously he doesn't have
a piece of the team anymore, but he still has
a part of the Barkley Center. So there's a lot
out of business elements to it that. But here's the
tricky part. Because of what happened with Kyrie and Boston,

(02:13:08):
both the Knicks and the Nets are looking this and saying,
we don't want just Kyrie, like with the thing. What
was the thing that made the Nets so great last year?
The team coming together? Yes, what was the thing? And
what was the thing Celtics didn't have chemistry? And who

(02:13:29):
was responsible for that? By the way, Rick, I am
the worst at open ended obvious questions. But I'm so
glad I got that right. You've nailed it. And I
knew on live radio me putting you in that position,
I could tell that it was uncomfortable. But nonetheless you
came through like a champ. You never want to say
the dumbest thing ever, you know, So that's what it
would be. Cool uniforms, those Biggie Smalls uniforms. Those Brooklyn's

(02:13:53):
got good Delhi. There's also if you wanted to compare
the two, would we just talked about ownership and stability
and and what you've you know, maybe Brooklyn, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and and and obviously Boston didn't didn't have the issues
that the Knicks at Boston's fine with what they've got

(02:14:14):
didn't work there. This goes back to when Dwight Howard
was leaving Orlando. His first choice was to go to Brooklyn,
and I was like, why Brooklyn? It was because if
I come in there and I have success. It's a
little bit like, I think, what's what's driving k D
and the Knicks idea which has been so long since
they've had success there that if you're the guy that

(02:14:35):
returns them to glory with the Knicks, you're going to
be beloved in a way that I would still say
to this day with the Golden State Warriors, for everything
that Kevin Durant has done there, he's not been embraced
to that level because it's really it was Staff, it
was Draymond, it was Clay and Kadie joined the band.
He's not the reason for what they are, even though

(02:14:55):
I would make the case that he is the reason
that they sustained their success. But he's just he He
wasn't part of the original. Well with Brooklyn, if you
were the guy that led them to somewhere for the
first time, led them to the conference finals for the
first time, how you would you're you're you would be
a legend. Your your jersey will be the first up there,

(02:15:19):
even compared to like what you what you have to
do to be a Boston Celtic legend compared to what
you have to be to be a Brooklyn Nets legend,
completely two different universes. You have to renovate td Garten
just to fit more banners of numbers up there in Brooklyn.
You just have your own. What's that thirty two for? Well,

(02:15:42):
let me tell you I'm the only one up there.
He's right, Viker, I've Dan Bier. This is the Doug
gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Sitting in for Doug.
There are new details on the heist that left Levian
Bell empty handed. I'll tell you what those details are
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to catch live editions of the Doug dot Leap Show
weekdays at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. Thank you very much,

(02:16:04):
Isaac and Isaac Lowan Crown will join us in about
ten minutes as we do the press to wrap up
the show here on Fox Sports Radio. It is the
Doug Gottlieb Show. He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer. We
played a clip from Nick right about forty minutes or
so ago on Fox Sports One saying on first things
first that if the Knicks don't make a splashing free
agency with one of the bigger free agents, it's a

(02:16:25):
losing off season. Well, the Nets have a lot of
money over in Brooklyn and their off season is very intriguing.
Continue considering we are putting Kyrie irving in Brooklyn. We
don't know how many meetings Kauai is gonna get, but
there's reports that Brooklyn will at least get one. Brooklyn
cleared some space last night to get to max deals

(02:16:45):
that didn't make a first round pick, and yet they're
the story of the draft. Is Brooklyn the real player
here in in this NBA free agency offseason that we
are going to have or is it? Or is it
still I guess player power? If you will know, it's
it's player power. And they're in the position that they're in.
They're an intriguing position, largely because Kyrie has in various

(02:17:10):
ways demonstrated that that's where he wants to be. And
so the question now is can he bring Kadi along
with him? And and those guys I know have met
twice since the end of the season in person to
discuss their interest in playing together and the regular season
and of the regular season. Shortly after Katie had his

(02:17:34):
cast train, Kyrie flew out to the Bay Area and
they met. And then shortly after Kadi had his surgery
in New York, Kyrie went to see him, and I
believe he was already out of the hospital then, but
they met again to talk about their desire to play together.
And this is something that's been going on for for

(02:17:55):
months in terms of their interests, maybe even years from
their team, their time together playing on the national team.
The rub is from everything that I've heard, is that
Kyrie wants them to join forces with the Brooklyn Nets.
K D has all the connections with the New York Knicks.

(02:18:16):
Royal Ivy, Uh Texas alum played with him at Okay
see those get Kadi is the godfather of Royal Ivy's
daughter Uh. Scott Perry, the GM was the assistant GM
when the Seattle franchise drafted k D. DeAndre Jordan, who
played for the next last year, is a good friend

(02:18:38):
of Katie's, like he's bought a bought a place in
in in New York. Everything is he wants them to
join forces with the Knicks. So one of two things
is going to happen. Either these guys are not going
to play together, or one of them is going to
be playing for a team that is not their first choice.

(02:19:00):
Why why is Brooklyn over the Knicks for Kyrie? Is
it just uh, that's where he's from, grew up. There
has a connection with his dad. I there's if I'm
not mistaken, he just moved to Rock Nation. Jay z
Is has that connection. Obviously he doesn't have a piece

(02:19:22):
of the team anymore, but he still has a part
of the Barkley Center, so there's a lot of business
elements to it that. But here's the tricky part. Because
of what happened with Kyrie and Boston, both the Knicks
and the Nets are looking this and saying we don't
want just Kyrie. Like with the thing, what was the
thing that made the Nets so great last year? The

(02:19:46):
team coming together? Yes, what was the thing? And what
was the thing that Celtics didn't have chemistry? And who
was responsible for that? By the way, Rick, I am
the worst at been ended obvious questions, But I'm so
glad I got that right, you've nailed it. And I
knew on live radio me putting you in that position,

(02:20:08):
I could tell that it was uncomfortable, but nonetheless you
came through like a champ. You never want to say
the dumbest thing ever, you know, So that's what it
would be. Cool uniforms, those Biggie Smalls uniforms. Those Brooklyn's got,
good Delhi. There's also if you wanted to compare the two,
and we just talked about ownership and stability and and

(02:20:29):
what you've you know, maybe Brooklyn, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
obviously Boston didn't didn't have the issues that the Knicks
at Boston's fine with what they've got didn't work there.
This goes back to when Dwight Howard was leaving Orlando.
His first choice was to go to Brooklyn, and it

(02:20:49):
was like why Brooklyn? It was because if I come
in there and I have success. It's a little bit like,
I think, what's what's driving k D and the Knicks
idea which has been so long since they've had success
us there that if you're the guy that returns them
to glory with the Knicks, you're going to be beloved
in a way that I would still say to this
day with the Golden State Warriors, for everything that Kevin

(02:21:11):
Durant has done there, he's not been embraced to that
level because it's really it was Staff, it was Draymond,
it was Clay and Katie joined the band. He's not
the reason for what they are, even though I would
make the case that he is the reason that they
sustained their success. But he's just he's he wasn't part
of the original. Well with Brooklyn, if you were the

(02:21:32):
guy that led them to somewhere for the first time,
led them to the conference finals for the first time,
how you would you're you're you would be a legend
you even compared to like what you what you have
to do to be a Boston Celtic legend compared to

(02:21:52):
what you have to be to be a Brooklyn Nets legend,
completely two different universes. You have to renovate TV Garden
just to fit more banners of numbers up there in Brooklyn,
you just have your own what's that thirty two for? Well,
let me tell you I'm the only one up there.
He's Rick Buker. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug

(02:22:13):
Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio, sitting in for Doug.
There are new details on the heist that left Levian
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(02:22:35):
He's Rick Buker, I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
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Me and Nick Bob will be back with you this
Sunday on Fox Sports Sunday, five o'clock Eastern time to Pacific,
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(02:22:56):
find out who the m v P and Rookie of
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Then I'll be back with FS one the following week
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It never ends in the NBA. Isaac Loan Crown now
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(02:23:18):
in the world of sports. The press hapening. Isaac Loan
cron never stops going here, there, and everywhere. Hello Isaac,
Hello Dan and Rick. You guys remember about a month
ago New Jets running back levy On Bell was burglarized
two of his girlfriends, stole five hundred thousand dollars worth

(02:23:40):
of jewelry and other things from his home. You remember that, Yes,
Air quotes on girlfriends. Yes. Well. TMZ obtained today the
nine one one audio of levy On Bell reporting the
crime to the authorities, and among the more eyebrow raising messages,

(02:24:00):
the dispatcher asking for a description of the suspects and
what they were wearing the last time Bell saw them.
To his credit, he was being honest. Bell said, well,
I can't answer that because the last time I saw
them they were both well, how can I put it
out of uniform? So perhaps that's one reason the suspects

(02:24:23):
are still at large over a month later. Could have
could have been worse. He could have tried to describe
them anyway, Uh no hants, no shirts about five four
I left the details out. Perhaps that was redacted from

(02:24:43):
the transcript. Onto less salacious matters. Jackie McMullan and the
Brilliant Basketball journalist on a podcast described one of the
reasons that ky Irving ain't coming back to the Celtics.
She said, the part of the thing is Kyrie Irving

(02:25:05):
didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people.
He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't by
the end. He had issues with Brad Steven's, issues with
Danny Ainge, issues with pretty much all of us by
the end, but he just didn't like living in Boston.
I assume we'll have to hold our breath to await
an endorsement deal between Kyrie and Ducan Donuts. Is that

(02:25:28):
something you've heard as well? I have. Yes. Do you
get mad when other people like reports stuff that you
have heard but just maybe didn't report. I'm not saying
this is the story, but we're like, well, everybody knew that,
and now it's a big deal two weeks later. Yeah,
but you balance it out with the ones where you
were going to report it and then you find out, oh,
that wasn't as accurate as I thought it was. I

(02:25:50):
might have been saying that's very good perspective, because I
would be mad every single time. Let's see if there's
next item is along those lines. Brian wind Horse floating
an interesting name as a potential free agent target. By

(02:26:10):
the way, actually they on Bell was trying to taunt
as well, by the way wind Horse floated a former
one time Laker. Are you ready for a de'angelo Russell reunion?
Get your iPhones ready? Oh? Man, I've heard that it

(02:26:32):
was more of Magic pushing out d' angelo Russell. That
is that is accurate? All that said for what the
Lakers need and the price for D'Angelo Russell not I
don't see that as the answer. Bae out there and
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a week it's been. Yes, it's been amazing. Free agency.

(02:27:14):
I love how the the moratorium has even been moved up.
I think for our business, but absolutely you gotta have
to have a show around it, right, I don't do
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