Doug and Baker Mayfield are keeping it real

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gonna see Clemson Obama and the rest doesn't matter? We'll
ask Brady Quinn up coming but I do want to
start with this discussion about Baker Mayfield. And it's interesting
where we where we were, where we are, and where
we're going in terms of the media and the people

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the media covered. When I got into this business, I
remember thinking, Okay, how can I separate myself? Lots of people,
maybe almost every person had a stick. Think of the
people who are successful covering basketball, covering football, to a

(01:57):
lesser extent, baseball. You know, Dick fell Oho, but Sevski
and Tomas So and my Williams, They're unbelievable, Judd Keller
Perry right, everything was great, better than ever, unbelievable. He's
a PTP. He's a pride type of form. There was

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no negativity there, and I didn't want to come across
as Mr Negative. I just felt like there was a
lack of realness. Two. And this is not a shot
at Dick Vita or Bill Raftery, who are longtime legendary
figures in Collin college basketball, even in college football. If

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you go back and you watch twenty years ago, you
realize that most eyes were dotted with hearts. And so
I tried to find what I thought was a balance
between being relatively positive but also being real and being
honest and being forthcoming, and sometimes maybe the viewer, the

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listener wasn't hasn't been ready for that, because especially in
college basketball, where on TV I cut my teeth, it's
always been covered in such a positive manner that the
moment you say, hey, this is not good, it's met
with you're a hater. You're a hater. That's where we are,
all right. The when Simon Cow was a hater, when

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simul Cow was just that was terrible. He was honest,
maybe to a fault. So when I read this article
about Baker Mayfield and Mina Kimes paints this picture of
a boy named Gavin whose parents shrug at the mention
of public stumbles from Baker Mayfield. Sure they don't want

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their son done everything Mayfield's done, but they're happy that
a tiny kid like Gavin has found a relatively tiny
quarterback to admire and overlooked athlete, one of the world's
most famous walk ons is now in college football history,
who proved doubt he is wrong. His height, his flaws,
his story, it all makes Mayfield seemed more real to them,
like a human playing position normally reserved for superheroes. He

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is who he is, and he doesn't apologize for it.
You know, the amazing part about the realness of Baker Mayfield.
We actually cover Baker Mayfield as if he set the
world on fire last year. We we've actually, for the
most part, the members of the media that I work with,

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a lot of them have backed down from the flaws
of Baker Mayfield. We focused too much on yeah, he
was drunk off, you know, and at the University of
Arkansas and got chased down by cops, instead of simple
on field production like we've we We went from as
media members not reporting the flaws, overlooking the flaws two

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now because he's a cult figure, saying how great it is,
how real he is, and still not pointing out the flaws.
It's okay for you to fall in love with Baker
Mayfield because people have told him he's too small, he's
not athletic enough. And yet remember he is small, he's
not crazy athletic. And by the way, against the good

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teams that he played last year, the Ravens twice, the Chargers,
the Steelers, the Texans, the Broncos, those are the good teams. Defensively,
ten touchdowns, love interception completion, percentage. They weren't two and
four in the year, and I believe all but one
was after the coaching change. And if I point that out,

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I'm a hater. Like it's amazing that people fans embrace
athletes because they believe that the athletes that break through
and are real and are honest and our flawed. And
yet if we point out that they're real and they're
flawed and they're not perfect, somehow we become a hater. Right,

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I mean, this is basically the the President Trump deal
right right now, because I think that's one of the
things that draws some people to Trump. Yeah, all right,
maybe he maybe he shouldn't have tweeted that out, but
at least he's being real, like or maybe he shouldn't

(06:23):
do that out, or maybe he shouldn't have thought that,
let alone tweet it it out. But if you point
that out, you become a hater. Isn't it remarkable? And
they're remarkable? Like, it's it's we we so badly want
human beings, but when we point out that they are

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in fact human beings, we're the bad guy for pointing
out their human beings. Maybe it's just not honest with
us because you don't really actually want honesty. You want
the assumption of honesty, or you want the honesty from
the actual subject, not from the people covering the subject. Look,
Baker Mayfield is a great story. He is an amazing story,

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whatever his decision making, because remember, he was offered scholarships.
He just wasn't offered a scholarship initially a Texas Tech
and chose to walk on in Oklahoma. But it's not
like there's no one who wanted it. But he was
a walk on. He did win the Heisman, he was
a finalist three times one at once. He did lead
his team in to the to the national semifinals. And

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he has changed the culture for the most part, the
for the better of the Cleveland Browns. But we've got
we've we've reached the point where now you can't say
anything that's anything other than positive, even though one of
the reasons you like him is because the only things
that are mentioned are only totally positive or seen as

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totally negative. It's a bit of a catch twenty two. Uh,
there's an immense amount of pressure on the Cleveland Browns.
I do think Baker performs better when there is that
amount of pressure, although in times in the past, he's
tried things and when they played in the playoffs and
at Oklahoma he tried to force things early on. He

(08:14):
tried hero ball that didn't work. But as everyone at
Oklahoma told me and people who evaluate him for the NFL,
he's unbelievable at defending his own players and guys love
him just like he He had some terror, some stupid
criticism of Giants fans needed to support Odell Beckham Jr.
More like, what do they? Was he even talking about?

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He's literally talking about somebody has no idea what he's
in Cleveland. He doesn't know that how Giants fans felt
about Odell Beckham Junior. But it's it's all part of
Baker's deal, is he You're either all with him or
you're completely against him, and he uses that as his motivation.
It's amazing what he's been able to accomplish being under

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six feet tall, not being a great athlete. But he
is under six ft tall. He isn't a great athlete,
and if not surrounded by great players, sometimes those flaws
get made more pronounced. And that's not being a hater.
That's like Baker Mayfield himself being real alright, coming up next,

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Brady Quinn, a number of former Browns quarterback will join
the show. I'll ask him about Baker Mayfield. I'll ask
him about the expectations and playing in Cleveland when now
instead of winning one game in the last two years,
that they believe they can be good. Plus, should we
even play the college football season when so many people
think it's Clemson, it's Alabama, and it's everybody else. Find

(09:41):
out next. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Fox Sports Radio. So we talked something about Baker Mayfield

(10:02):
and the fact that I think people like him because
they view him as human, flawed like they are, but
ultimately successful. And uh, there's a certain embrace of his
of his style, and look, his style is I think
rather calculated, even if it's honest, which is protect all

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those who support you and support all those who protect you, right, Huh.
But at the end of the day, can you play?
Can you not play? It's one thing to come from
one win in two years to being you know at
the table, but can you take the next step when
the expectations are raised. Who knows more about lofty, almost

(10:46):
ridiculous expectations in college and the NFL than our own
Brady Quinn. You can see hear him every Sunday on
Fox Sport Trade alongside Jonas Knox eight eastern, five o'clock Pacific,
and of course he'll be in studio every college Saturday
on Fox covering college football. Get to college football in
a second, Brady, But give me your sense of of

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what changes from year one to year two for a
guy like Baker Mayfield in a town like Cleveland where
you've quarterbacked the Browns and there's now expectations so that
that are that are raised around this Browns organization. Yeah,
it's funny you phrase it that way because my rookie

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year are really get to play until week seventeen. But
our team went ten and six that year. We didn't
make the playoffs, but very similar situation in the expectations
heading into two thousand and eight. UM, we we brought
in Sean Rogers, we brought in Corey Williams, some really
good defensive lineman. UM at that point in time, our
offense was kind of clicking on all cylinders. Um, so

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you know, things were looking up in Cleveland. You could
sense the optimism in the hype and it reminded me
a lot of I think where the Browns kind of
all right now to a difference maybe being all the
different moves that they've made now over the past two
years than obviously coming from an entirely different point where
they only won one game in two seasons. So, um,
you know, it's very very similar. And I think that

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the thing that I always say to Brown's fans to
caution them. And this is coming from a Brown fan
self and grew up rooting for the team and obviously
lived out that dream of plan for him. But this
is the NFL. It's really really hard to take that
next step and then to stay there and be there
consistently and then take that next step where you're like
New England and you dominate your division and you dominate

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in the A S c um And so seven wins
last year, that was great. Um, it's a good, you know,
starting point, and obviously the everything they did in the
second half of season once Sprettie Kitchens took over full
time on the offense, and you continue to see Baker developed.
Was huge, but now it's can they continue that? How
do they handle all the expectations with all the additional

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big egos and personalities in that locker room and also
the change. I mean, look, they're changing scheme, defend actively,
how Spretty Kitchen is gonna handle a lot of things
that come up as a first time they had coach.
I think the one thing they have going for him
is they have one hell of a staff with Todd
Munkin as the row CEM pre first, their special teams
coach and all that. So they've got a lot of
the right pieces from a coaching standpoint to help temper

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some of those personalities and all that. But at the
end of the day, it's not like Pittsburgh and Baltimore
are rolling over in that division and just gonna let
him win it. So it's gonna be a fun season
to watch. I can't wait to see. I love watching
Baker play. I think it's a hell of a player them.
I'm glad Clinton was able to get him. They they
he only had ten touchdowns live interceptions against the five

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good defenses he faced in six games. What what does
he have to improve? Upon. Obviously they getting Overell Beckham Jr.
Improves their personnel, uh with the number one wide receiver
to go along with you know Jervis Landry in year two.
But when when you watch him play, what's the thing
that can help him take that next step? Well, I
think it's it's a it's a mistake that a lot

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of young quarterbacks made, really any quarterbacks eight points on
their career. There was times when he got over zealous,
he pressed a little bit, made some decisions and he
didn't need American turning the football over. And look with
snaps in time, that goes away. You know that that
goes away. And I think look at their defense improves,
that also goes away. You know he's not gonna be
put in the position where he has to do that.

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So those two things I think are gonna, in my mind,
be the difference for him this year where he takes
that next step. And and look at you could you
could stay at twenty seven touchdown passes as long as
they can see and run the football effectively, and he
cuts down some of those interceptions and their defense approves,
that might be enough to get it done and make
them a playoff game. Brady Queenn joining us on the
Doug Out Live show on Fox Sports Trader, let's delvinto college.

(14:41):
Uh something you're gonna you guys, got a great new
studio team that you're a part of on Big Fox
and of course Big ten Media Days about to get away,
Big twelve already on the way SEC Media Days run away.
And because you have two of back, because you have
the two star quarterbacks back, and because there's so much,
so many persons, so much personnel back for both teams,
there's the assumptions Clemson in Alabama and everybody else. Do

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you agree with that assumption? Yeah, I think it's hard
not to think that way, only because of the one
the talent too. They've been able to recruit over the years.
I mean every single year they're in the top five
recruiting classes a lot of times top four, top three,
and so that's part of it. The fact that they've
probably got the best two quarterbacks in college football coming

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back this year, that's a huge piece of it. Um coaching,
you know, head coaches as well. So all those things
kind of point to these two teams meeting head on
at some point in time. Uh, And you kind of
ask yourself, Okay, what could get in the way. Well,
for Clemson, look, the the SEC is the worst in
the Power five right now. And people may take exception
that because Clemson just won a national championship, but that's it.

(15:48):
That's all they got right now. There's not a lot
of parody in that in that conference, and outside of Clemson,
it's kind of everyone else. Um. You can look at
the preseason rankings if you want to get some sort
of indication of that, but I mean just just go.
I can look through the years and so forward to
stay in Miami and some of these other schools in
the a SEC really come around. Constance is not gonna
have a hard path at getting to the College Football Playoff.

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For Alabama, it's obviously different because they playing and arguably
the tough division, the SEC West. The difference in my
opinion with Alabama as their schedule, I mean, for starters,
they got two buys, um, they have an FCS opponent before.
I think they have a buy before LSU, and I
asked FCS appointed before Auburn and Iron Bowl, um, which
you know, again you never know what often is gonna

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be this year, but it's a robbery game. You never know,
but the way their schedules, you know, stacks up to
you kind of look at and say, not that they
have a free pass, but it sets up for them
to succeed when the West and probably a showdown with
Georgia and the SEC championship game, and that's the one
team that can spoil, you know, the matchup of seeing uh,
you know, Alabama versus Clempston again at some point time

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in the college football playoff. My biggest question would be
if Alabama runs the table, uh you know, as far
as the regular season goes, once they get to the
SEC Championship game, if Georgia beats them and they're in
defeat it too, do you leave out of one loss
Alabama team that just lost Natas championship game. We haven't
really seen anything like that. Usually when teams make it,
they didn't win their division, they didn't even have to

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play in that thirteen game in the conference championship game.
Alabama was that team. Ohio State was that team. In
the past, we haven't seen a team that lost in
a conference championship game get in. That would be an
interesting scenario if that did play out. It is is
this the year from Michigan everything would point in that direction.
But I love everything Ryan Day has done just from

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that the coaching hires, I think into placing some pieces
that have moved on, whether it's you know, Greg Madison,
who dates back to some of my time with that
a Notre Dame UM, or even just you know the
way he's kind of handled some of the pressure and
keeping I think a lot of the things that are
minors Bill but kind of also tweaking it and doing
it his way too. I just I think the biggest

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question is is Justin Field is gonna be the five
star recruit that Georgia thought he was going to be
in that Ohio State hopes he's gonna be, uh, and
then how much better can the A State defense get?
But Mchigan has every opportunity this year, right when you
look at their schedule, even nonconference, right Notre Dame comes
to their house. Um, but they should have every opportunity
this year to be able to win the Big Ten

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and kind of turn the tide and maybe take over
a little bit. With Shade Patterson coming back, Josh Gavits
now changing the offense to really fit more to his style,
more that up tempo more that spread that I think
we saw Shade Patterson's show promise with during his time
with Old Miss Yeah. No, it's gonna be fascinating considering
how how sluggish they look, granted, missing several players in
the bowl game and of course beaten by Notre Dame

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early in the season. We'll we'll see if they can
eliminate that, and then the the Ohio State game. Brady
can't wait to see in studio. Appreciate catching up. We'll
listen to your Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate me
on Doug. Have a great day, alright, Brady Quinn of
course one of our lead analysts college football. You can
hear him on Fox Sports Radio every Sunday with Jonas
Knox as as they cover everything, and of course we're

(18:58):
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Did you guys see this note from from the Oklahoma
City Thunder in regards to Russell Westbrook's departure. The Russell

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Westbrook and Chris Paul trade was made official yesterday, and
this from Sam Presti, of course, is the longtime general
manager of the Oaklahoma City Thunder. He selected Russell in
the NBA draft. He said, Russell Westbrook is the most
important player in the brief history of the Oklahoma City Thunder.
He has left an indelible mark on this team, the
city and state. Now, I mean, look, it's impossible to

(19:52):
not see that as a slight towards Kevin Durant, Right,
It's it's impossible not to um and I think on
some level it is. But I also think and and
you know, there's there's gotta be some bitter feelings, not

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in that the relationship between k D and the Thunder ended,
but where he went and how he went there. Remember
that the Thunder were left with the type of feeling. Hey,
he told us he's coming back. He didn't and I'm
not sure what he's supposed to say at his last
at his exit meeting press conference, but at his exhibiting

(20:34):
press conference he said he expected to be back the
next season. I don't believe uh as was reported that
he told Russell Westbrook he was absolutely coming back before
he took the meetings I believe he said what he
his company line had been, which is he believed he
was coming. There's a difference in the semantics of it.

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And look, Russell Westbrook only stayed what three more seas
and so it's he played two seasons more in totality
than KD. They both won m vps. Russell of course
average of triple double the last three games um And
in truth, like Russell Westbrook asked out, he wanted out. Now,

(21:19):
some of it may come from the fact that his
name was linked into that Toronto trade, potentially with Paul George.
I felt like once that was in there, once that
got out and it was made public, it was over
between the two. But I'm guessing that he knew once
Paul George went in and asked out, and Paul George
apparently was open about that. With Russell Westbrook, he knew
it was over. So k D, I guess looks worse

(21:42):
because he was a free agent left on his own volition.
But I don't understand how Russell Westbrook asking to be
traded and not want to ride it ride it out
through a rebuild isn't just as bad. But this is
Sam Presty picking sides, and I'm not sure I see
the win in it. Maybe it's because they had turned

(22:05):
the fans, and the fans had turned on their own
against Kevin Durant. But shouldn't he have simply said he
represents one of the two indelible superstars in the history
of our franchise, and we couldn't cannot have been more

(22:26):
honored to whatever you want to say. He has left
it in delible mark on the team, on the city,
and on the state. I think it's it's really impressive.
But it's also interesting that Russell asked out. You know,
when Paul George, I am sure, went to Russell and

(22:49):
said like, hey, man, I don't think this thing is
this this dog is gonna hunt. I don't think so. Either.
They wanted off the ship even though they had signed
long term deals, and maybe ultimately Oklahoma City ends up
benefiting from having them under contract and getting so much
back in return as opposed to getting nothing for Kevin Durant.

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But they were under contract and asked out, as opposed
to k D, who is not under contract and left.
I failed to see how Russell Westbrook in reality his
actions were better than k D's because he signed a
contract that was bigger than he can get anywhere else,

(23:34):
and then wanted to be traded two years after signing
that contract. Somehow he's a hero. I you want to
talk about, uh, the misuse of the word loyalty, Like
what Paul George did, was he worse? Like you signed
a four year contract, and one year into the four

(23:55):
year contract, you want out to go back to and
look again. I think what Presty has done is brilliant,
brilliant if the guys don't want to play there and
you can get top dollar if you're not, you know,
if if you're not unloading something and getting nothing back
in return. I do. I think it's brilliant. On the

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other hand, and I don't think it's sinister what Paul
George did. But I don't think it's great business just
because you don't want you don't think you can win.
Like you still had Russell Westbrook, you still had Paul George,
you still had Dennis Shrewder, you had Steven Adams. Why
can't you win unless you're not good enough? You know,

(24:43):
like the Warriors aren't nearly as good as what's what
they once were. And I don't see anybody there jumping ship,
do you. I just I don't. I don't see this one.
I feel like this is this feels petty to me.
It's not the level of pettiness we saw in Cleveland

(25:05):
from Dan Gilbert when Lebron left, But it feels petty
to me. Katie obviously is a dude who who struggles
with his own decisions, struggles to find happiness. You know,
I just I don't this. This feels petty, This feels

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like that, it feels as embarrassing and most of you know,
I consider Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, my second home, and I
spent more time there and in Connecticut and in California,
like those are the places that I live. Oklahomas is
a place I call home. But I don't. I don't
get this between getting dressed up as cupcakes, you know,

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and taunting Kevin Durant as he goes and wins, you know,
two finals MVPs. Like that's fan pettiness. That's gonna happen
when you're Sam Presty. This even if it's not what
you how how you thought it would come out. Like, look,
I just want to say great things about Russell Westbrook.
You've been a great dude, Russell Westbrooks really hard to coach.

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Russell Westbrook got worse as a shooter than he did.
That's about his work ethic and about his mental focus.
I get it. He struggles in terms of how many
hours he can put it in the off season because
he's had, you know, multiple knees surgeries. You don't have
to come out and slam Russell Westbrook like a, well,
he was great, but he was hard to coach, and

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he couldn't shoot, and he wanted to do things and
dominate the basketball. And he's a high volume shooter and
a high volume And she's like, now, you don't have
to say those things, but you also don't have to
take a shot at Kevin Durant when he's been out
the door for three years. All right, this is your
second your second wife leaving you, and you're still bitter

(26:55):
that your first wife left. Yes, yes, I ran music
you're saying, you know, it was interesting. I was thinking
about um what was said by Pressty when Kevin Durant left,
So I looked it up real quick. From what I'm
seeing in his statement after he decided to leave for
UM Golden State, I'd just like to start off by saying,

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of course, we're disappointed that Kevin Durant's tenure with the
Thunder organization has come to a close. I'd like to
think it could continue forward, but that's not the case,
and then he goes on to say, I do think
it's important. We're very grateful and thankful. I'd like to
thank Kevin for not only what he did for our
team in our organization on the floor, but also for
what he did for Oklahoma. He was synonymous with Oklahoma
City community as well as the Thunder organization. Goes on

(27:38):
to talk about all of the things they accomplished while
he was here. So he was obviously effusive in his praise.
It wasn't like he did the whole you know, Dan
Gilbert when Lebron left and just totally smashed him. But
it is interesting that he he specifically went out of
his way to say that Russell Westbrook was the most
important and just when Kevin duran It left, it's like, hey,

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thanks for what you did for us, even you know
when you were drafted in Seattle and then you had
to move to Oklahoma City and you sort of kept
us afloat and you were clearly our best player. Yeah,
I when you say the most, you know, And and
they took time before they made this press release. They
took time and knew what they were saying. And I
would say that if you asked Sam, he would he

(28:23):
would say, like, look, we had meant nothing in terms
of disrespect for Kevin Durant. Russell was just here longer
and it's more recent. But he had to know on
some level how it would be taken. And and look,
I'm sure in terms of your constituency, there's plenty people
in Oklahoma. I know plenty people of Oklahoma that they're
not that. But they're not really bitter about Russell, even

(28:44):
though they probably should be. And they're still bitter about
Kevin Durant even though they shouldn't be. But he's not
helping it with the statement. Is there stoking stoking a
little bit of fire. This is playing the to the constituency.
Is there a difference between the fact that he said
like the most important player en franchise history versus like, yeah,

(29:06):
Kevin Durant being the most talented, or however you want
to parse words. Maybe maybe I just don't think it's needed.
I just don't think it's needed. I have, you know,
it's just you just gotta be really careful. And and
of course not that Kevin Durant sensitive, none of these guys.
Of course he's since you right, um, but you know,

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I look, I didn't like I thought Golden State went
way above and beyond anything they had to do, saying,
you know, no one's gonna wear thirty five anymore. They
can retires number, then retire Andre goo Dolla's number. Like,
let's take a breath here. You know, Katie was there
three years, Igudal I think was there for Iguadala one
of finals MVP, but it wasn't one of their top

(29:52):
three or four. Please an important player, important piece. But like,
are we retiring Robert Orry's number two in in l
A or with the same Antonio spurs No, and they
they've had kind of similar career arcs. Um. Yeah, it's
it's it just strikes me as odd. It strikes me
as odd. Maybe it's because they treated him that there's

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some sort of guilt there, just like with Kevin Durant
because he got hurt in his last game. There's some
guilt there, and that's why they're so effuse or effusive
in their praise, but it feels unnecessarily over the top
would be my what would be my assessment of it?
Is Alex Smith ready to make a comeback? You'll find

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Gottlieb Show. Game Times by Little Caesar's, where you can
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were applicable available participating locations. Ralph Irvin, what is the

(31:20):
game today? The game is real news? Fake news? Man,
go ahead well. Former Redskins quarterback Joe Theisman said Alex
Smith is making remarkable progress and rehabbing his broken leg,
and he actually could be ready to start playing football
again before the end of the twenty nineteen season. Who
said that Joe Theisman that funds like you are fake news. Yeah.

(31:45):
In fact, in a conversation with Ian Rappaport, he said
he came very very close to losing his leg. Unfortunately
he still has it. Alex for sure will not play
this year. The big news with Smith, his bulky external
fix sator was removed from his right leg eight months
and many surgeries after suffering that initial injury. Well, and
and Ralph, and I know, I don't think you're with

(32:06):
us that day, but I've been told by people close
to Alex that most expect him to It would be
a nothing short of a miracle if he's a starting
quarterback in the NFL. Um that that's the feeling that
their expectations are low in terms of football. He wants
to give it a go, he wants to rehabit, but
there are very little, if any, expectations that that will

(32:29):
actually happen. Yeah, it's one of those things that I'd
be surprised if you ever just stepped foot on our
field after that injury. Anyways, next, the Fritz Polared Alliance
is concerned that the Texans violated the spirit of the
Rooney Rule before ultimately deciding not to hire a general
manager for the season that sounds like fake news. They're
real and they're spectacular. The Fritz Polart Alliances new executive

(32:53):
director Rod Graves says, we're concerned about how the Rooney
rule was used. They brought those gentlemen in quickly, gave
the impression they were looking to make a past decision,
and then they came off of it. Of course, again,
Houston didn't decided not to hire a GM at all,
but remember they wanted to get a guy from the
This is where it's hard, right, you have a head
coach who came from the Patriots. Patriots have been the

(33:15):
organization that everybody's trying to copy, trying to mimic. Granted
front office people who have left the Patriots have had
mixed bags of success. This is where the Rooney rule
is hard. It forces you to open your eyes to
other people, even if you've already kind of locked in
on the decision as to what you want to do next. Um.
And it's not like the Texans didn't know. But violating

(33:36):
the spirit of the rules one thing. Violating the letter
of the rule is a completely other conversation, and it
makes it far more sinister to viral late letter as
opposed to a spirit of it. I would have to agree.
I mean, sometimes you're just doing what you have to
do to make the next step. Jimmy Garoppolo said learning
under Tom Brady for the first three years of his
career was invaluable and that Brady taught him how to

(33:59):
play game within the game. I'm gonna say that's real news,
and they're spectacular, yeah. Garoppolo talking to the ringers, Kevin
Clark said, to be a rookie and see that it
was invaluably can barely put it into words. What you
learn is playing the game within the game. That's a
big part of Tom. That there are things like you'd say,

(34:21):
we're gonna go on too on this play, and there'll
be a reason for it. Yeah. I mean, like, look,
he's he's got twenty literally twenty years of experience in it,
and he's he's never been a great athlete, and so
he's had to learn to compensate for his lack of athleticism,
and yet he never gets touched. There's a reason why.
There's a There are several reasons that they've been successful

(34:42):
so consistently, and obviously Brady is a is one of
the two or three reasons why, absolutely staying in that
part of the country. Celtics GM Danny Ainge acknowledging today
that although Kemba Walker and n s Cancer weren't plan
A after losing both Al Horford and Kyrie Irving, they
are extremely happy with the signings and expect to compete

(35:03):
for an NBA championship this coming season. That sounds like
fake news. In fact, this is what Danny Aange said.
We started planning for plan A. Our Plan A was
Kimba Walker and in his cantor and um, we're very
fortunate that they chose the Boston Celtics. That's interesting, right,

(35:25):
I don't know. I don't know if that really was
plan A. I mean, I think it was once it
became clear that Kemba that that Kyrie was gonna look elsewhere.
But I had heard the Kemba thing pretty early on
in the playoffs, and I was I was surprised that Brooklyn.
We'll get to Brooklyn and the curious decisions they made.

(35:46):
I'm surprised Brooklyn wasn't more in on Kemba than they were. Look,
Kemba is not as good a player as Kyrie Irving.
He's not He's older, uh, and he's not as good,
but he may be a better fit for Boston. Finally,
and a agent, Rich Paul and Clutch Sports have sold
a stake of ownership to Hollywood Talent Agency U T A. Yeah,

(36:08):
this one strikes me as odds. Supposedly it's three hundred
million dollars is what they they've sold. That that's staking
it too, um And look you t A is it's
definitely it's been a distant third. C A A and
W M E are the two big boys that have
been that have bought up a lot of others, and
I feel like you t A probably massively overspent uh

(36:32):
to get him. Also interesting is you know Rich Paul
lost two clients yesterday, right, So he lost Marcus Morris
fired him, and so do did um. Uh Man, who's
the guy who played in Kentucky and he lost like
a eighty million dollar deal Manwell, Pope, no no, no, no, no,

(36:53):
no no, no, no New Orleans no. Well fired him
just yesterday. So uh, I mean that's that's a bounce
back him a tough day, But congrats, I guess. I
mean they were doing it alone and now they're obviously
going to have the tie. But This is kind of
par for the course. William Morris and CIA have bought
up a bunch of other agencies and this is just

(37:13):
one that got announced. They're real and they're spectacular. This
is game time on the Doug Gottli Show. Doug Gotli
Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we'd
just have Bryce Harper walk off yesterday when they didn't
even have to pitch to Bryce Harper. That was That

(37:35):
was a huge win for the Philadelphia Philliesn't it tough
loss for the Dodgers had so far very successful East
Coast swing. Coming up next, we're gonna talk some Brooklyn Nets,
And it's interesting that the Clippers have obviously dominated the
conversation with the Kauai and Paul George acquisitions as much

(37:58):
because their name and location and their proximity to the
Lakers as much as anything and probably timing, But the
Nets landed two superstars, one of whom, of course, is
not likely to play this year. The other is coming
off of what I think is perceived as a down year.

(38:19):
But wait, do you hear how the Nets got Kevin Durant?
What the discussion has been like around why Kevin Durant
chose the nets and why it feels like we've actually
seen this script before with both players and it probably
won't work. That's up coming next to The Doug Gotlip Show,
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(39:03):
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in fifteen minutes. Rama's you know who Bog Bones is.
Bobby Bones is the Would he be upset if I

(39:24):
said he's the seacrest of country music? I don't think so.
I think that's hi praise right. I mean, like he's
done some other cool stuff. He won Dancing with the Stars. Uh,
he's on he's been on Idol as a mentor um.
But like he's he is huge in the he like
Seacrest for pop music, and of course Seecrest is on
locally UM in l A. He's the same thing in Nashville,

(39:49):
nationally syndicated and covering country music. And of course he's
written two best sellers. But he owns a pro football team,
which we we got to talk about. We gotta get
we ready and I gotta figure out a way. He
Clay Travis flew with him to what the College World Series.
We gotta go to an SEC football game or maybe
maybe Clemson A and M, which is like the second

(40:11):
week of the season. We'll talk some college football and
some some rise to prominence and figure out this fan
football league that he owns a team. In upcoming fifteen minutes,
Bobby Bones is gonna join us. I saw this from
the Brooklyn Nets. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird.

(40:32):
So here's Sean Marks, Marks, the general manager. Sean Marks,
a former player at Cal, played in the NBA, played
with the Spurs, cut his teeth in the Spurs front
office in their organization. UM. Sean Marks went on w
f A n which is big local station in New York,
and he discussed what has to change now with the

(40:53):
Brooklyn Nets. Now that Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving are
part of the team, I think everything has to change slightly.
You know, we haven't had that type of talent, you know,
unless across the board. I'll put all our free in that,
not just the two of those guys that you mentioned,
all of them, and the things are going to change,
Things are gonna adapt. They have to. They have to

(41:14):
start driving the culture. That's that's what it's all about.
We have to learn from them. These guys have been
in the league. They're elite level players and we have
to see what we can learn from them as well.
It's funny, Okay, So here's the here's the kind of
back story. So apparently Kevin Durant I love watching the
Nets play. I told you guys all season long and

(41:36):
towards the end of the season when that dudes in
the NBA all liked watching the Nets play. They had
kind of a collective group of maybe overachievers. They rooted
for each other's success. They had some remarkable comebacks. It
felt like they played hard on a more consistent level
than some of the more quote unquote talented teams, and

(41:57):
their culture was among the best in the league. Kevin
Durant chose the Nets without having talked to the Nets,
which is weird, right, Like, imagine what if the Nets
didn't want him. Kat said this, I love the system.
I love how you guys play. I see how hard
you guys play. You were never out of games and
you could never take you guys lightly. These are the

(42:20):
great compliments. So let me get this straight. I mean
just just thinking out loud here. Kyrie Irving, because of
location and because of style of play, and because losing
um D'Angelo Russell, they needed a starting point guard. Kye
Irving chose the Nets. He comes from the Celtics to

(42:43):
the Nets. The Nets are beloved by other NBA players
because of how hard they play, because of the coaching,
the style of play, and the overall culture. Where does
that sound like and when does it sound like? It
sounds a little bit like I don't know. The Boston
Celtics two years ago didn't. They too have a left

(43:06):
handed point guard who had been maligned and bounced around
the NBA, who had incredible success, but there was a
ceiling because he wasn't maybe a superstar, but they were
beloved for their culture, for the way they rooted for
each other, for how hard they play and how based
upon coaching, culture and style of play they overachieved, and
how productive their point guard was. You see the correlation

(43:31):
in comparison there, don't you? Oh, gay d likes the
team that plays a great style, that has a ton
of fun, that makes a bunch of shots, that's really
well coached, that shares the basketball, that wins games they're
not supposed to win. Doesn't that sound like the Golden
State Warriors three years ago? Remember you had Steve Kerr

(43:54):
and we're playing with joy and with passion and sharing
the basketball, remember then. And though Steve kurse style, adding
Kevin Durant was incredibly successful, so much so they nearly
won a championship this year even when Katie got hurt,
the fact is that Kevin Durant never really bought into it,

(44:18):
never really loved it. And Sean Marks is actually saying
exactly what the Golden State Warriors had to do, which
is like, yeah, look, we always did that, but that's
because we didn't have that good of players. Now we
have better players, We're gonna have to adjust some. I
get it. We've all made mistakes in our lives and
if we get a chance at to redo, it's the

(44:40):
whole reason. Have you ever played football in the in
the streets or pick up football and you do do over? Right?
You want to do over? So maybe it's Katie and
Kyrie getting a do over. But call me cautiously pot
pessimistic in spite of their talent, their style and their

(45:02):
fit and location, et cetera. And pointing out, hey, I
could be the only one saying this, but don't the
Brooklyn Nets remind Kyrie Irving of the Boston Celtics before
he got there? And don't the Brooklyn Nets on some
level run k D of the Golden State Warriors before
he got there. The personnel different, yes, I have, there

(45:24):
are the levels of success different. Yes, remember Celtics went
to the Eastern Conference finals and the Warriors lost in
the NBA Finals before Kyrie and KD joined their respective
previous clubs. But the idea is still the same, and
Kyrie and the Celtics didn't ultimately jibe because as much

(45:45):
as he may have thought, he wanted that cultural change
and be a part of a team as opposed to
a group of individuals, He's just struggled because of his wiring,
and the same is true of Kevin Durant and their
general manager Sean Marx's are He said like, yeah, we're
gonna have to do some other stuff, which is what
ultimately led to the breakdown between the old Warriors and KD.

(46:10):
Maybe it's that the previous Brooklyn Nets don't have the
egos because you haven't had the success of the older Warriors. Maybe,
and maybe having a year off gives him a chance
to see basketball from a different lens. But what about Kyrie?
What about him? He seems to struggle getting along with others.

(46:34):
He's just one of those lone wolf guys. He's one
of those the hell with it, I'll do it myself
kind of guys, you know. And and kind of in
an opposite way of the opposite of what happened to
Kyrie in Boston. What if the Nets succeed without k D,
and then k D comes back and he's already chasing

(46:57):
the ghosts of of whether it's Ordon or Lebron and
trying to show that he can win and do it
on his own, and yet they've done it without him,
Or what if they don't play well with Kyrie and
they do when they get k D back and all
of a sudden, Kyrie feels somehow insecure about it. And

(47:18):
all these social experiments we're gonna have this year in
the NBA. From the Clippers who are going to try
and get past the second round for the first time
in franchise history and do so with obviously the exception
of Kawhi Leonard, with guys that haven't played deep into
the playoffs. What Lebron James and Anthony Davis, and can
Lebron James really turn over the reins to another player?

(47:40):
And can they use the old Lebron James as a
point guard setting everybody up to to win games. To
the Boston Celtics trying to prove that their culture is
better even if their talent isn't as good. To the
Philadelphia seventy sixers, who continue to add very good pieces
but maybe not enough shooting. The Brooklyn Nets are probably
the most interesting, the most interesting. But we do actually

(48:07):
have a past, and what's past is precedent, right, That's
what we're told. What past is president And stop me
if you heard me this before. But Kyrie Irving joining
a team that has a coach that players like to
play for, as a coach that has emphasized the scoring
capabilities of a lead guard, have a style in which

(48:31):
all guys play for each other, and there seems to
be incredible culture. Doesn't this feel like the Boston Celtics
Part two? And couldn't there be more similar couldn't be
more similarities in style of play, in narrative of joy
of playing and play than than what KD is doing

(48:51):
now as opposed with Katie did in the past. And
he didn't seem to enjoy even all the success he
had in Oakland. Come up next, Special treat Bobby Bones,
huge name in radio, huge and TV. Gonna spend some
time with us. Um He's he owns now a professional team,

(49:12):
but the team is everything is picked basically by the fans.
I'm guessing he's never taken phone calls before. It feels
like that's what they're gonna do in this league. We'll
get to that. I'm coming next. Doug Alix show Rose
on Fox Sports Radio the yearman Our I Heart Stations.
You may have seen him win Dancing with the Stars.

(49:33):
You might not know he's an owner of a professional
football team. He's the one and only Bobby Bones kind
of have to spend some time with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Most importantly, somebody has a fake I
G account for your new dog. Yeah, listen, I got
a new dog and he's cute. And I thought, if
I get a dog and go to the dog park
and maybe a girl will talk to me, And so

(49:54):
I I put up some pictures. And now these I
don't know Russian bots or these Chinese bot accounts, and
I have a stake account of my dog and I
had to report him. And so there we are. And
if that's a big struggle in my life right now, Doug,
I think I'm doing all right. Okay. So the dog
is an English bulldog. It is adorable. Start teen pounds,
he's got blue eyes. What's the dog's name. His name

(50:16):
is Stanley, named after Stanley from the Office, just because
he looks like Stanley from the Office. Wrinkles, Yes, the
same wrinkles. He has a lot more energy than Stanley
from the Office. Though I don't know these things bulldogs.
I've never been a bulldog guy. And a friend actually
gave me the dog, and I'm a huge dog guy
in general. And he says, hey, I have a dog
that no one has taken yet because he's kind of

(50:38):
out of control. And so I get a bulldog, and
even as a puppy, they just kind of lay and
slob around a little bit. But you know, I'm waking
every four hours because they're bladders much like mine. Um,
mine's going the opposite way as I'm using the bathroom
more as I get older. But his, you know, it's
not grown yet, so he's got a tiny bladder. I
got to take him out every four hours. Although I
did hire a dog walker last night and at one

(50:59):
o'clock in the morning she came over, so um, luckily
nobody got stabbed her and I had all the stuff
in my house when I woke up. Wait wait, wait, wait,
wait wait, you had a dog walker come, Bobby Bones
joining us on the Dog Gotlip Show. Wait you had
a dog walker come at one in the morning. Obviously
you don't. You don't have to just put in the
crate and they they can hold it. He'll be right,

(51:20):
you know, and Perry that would in theory. Dog that
will be right. But here's the thing with these tiny dogs.
An if I go to bed at eight thirty, because
I have to wake up at three in the morning
to my radio, show I have to wake up at
midnight or one am to take him out again. If
I don't get any sleep, I'm not pleasant to listen to.
So instead of waking up at one am, I found
a dog walker on one of these apps, called them

(51:43):
like as a side deal and said, hey, I'll give
you double what the apps giving you. And so also
I got a female because I don't trust a dude
coming into my house at one in the morning, and
she came over last night and walked the dog at
one in the morning. Only in Nashville, right, If you
did that in some other cities who won't name them,
you may end up missing it, like a kidney in
a bat in a in a in a in a

(52:05):
bathtub full of ice, like like like those worst nightmares
that you have. Bobby Bones joining us. Okay, So this
is like an arena league that's played in Vegas where
it's everything is controlled by the fans and you own
a team. And am I reading this right? Yeah? I
think that's a pretty good analogy. It's called the Fan
Control Football League. And so the thing about this league
is it's real players, it's legitimate, real players, and they

(52:29):
play on a fifty yards field and if you're watching
the game, and I'll try to keep it really simple
because I'm an idiot and I need it simple. UM
you watch it on on stitch, and you also call
the plays, and whichever play gets the most votes in
that short amount of time, the human players have to run.
And so you know with fantasy with UM, you know
you can kind of go down the line. I did
a sport show for a long time on Fox Sports

(52:50):
as well, so I'm a die hard sports guy and
I thought, well, since I can't afford an NFL team, UM,
I would like to be involved. And I kind of
sought them out and it's really the first ever fully
fan run league with real life players. Yeah. The problem
is that they're like fans. If you've ever taken calls
from fans, you know they're their Their thoughts can be

(53:11):
completely scattered, and I I just I fear. I fear
what they're going to vote for. I fear I feared
to see what they're I mean, obviously, every fan wants
the defense to blitz every single on every single and
throw the ball deep every single time. Obviously, Arena League
fifty yard field, you can't throw it nearly is deep.
But I do fear, like sometimes you turn things over
to fans, that's exactly what you get. Yeah, it'll be

(53:32):
the Haill Mary every third play. I'm I'm almost certain
it's gonna be a hell Mary or you know how
we used to play even back on Madden in the
early day. It's all like trick plays on site. Yeah,
I mean it's that's what it's gonna be, at least
at first. Again, this is the first year that I've
ever done this, and for me because like Marshawn Lynch
owns the team and Chad Johnson owns the team, and

(53:55):
you know, there are a lot of these owners that,
like myself, see this as something that's never been on before.
And you know, we have the ability to kind of
tell people, hey, uh, don't be an idiot. That's that's
kind of what I plan to tell my people. Um,
but you know, you vote on everything from the logo
to the coaches to the players. I think it's gonna
be a really cool thing that starts up. Okay, you're
amazing personal story right from humble beginnings in Arkansas with

(54:18):
teenage parents to now the biggest star in country music radio.
You're in the quick country Music Hall of Fame. You
want dancing with the stars. So now you have the ability,
Like you said, like I can't own an NFL team,
but like you kind of call your shots on wherever
you want to go, whatever you want to do. It's
it's are you going to use that for an SEC game,
for a Clemson game, for an NFL game? Like you

(54:38):
gotta pick out somewhere where you can be like, I'm
Bobby Bones. I feel like going here. I know you
did it for the College World Series. Is that your
first College World Series? Yeah? It was. I think we
have this and maybe you have this warp perception nobody
cares about me, Like nobody cares you know, I say,
I'm Bobby Bones. I can't even get them like a
restaurant at eight o'clock. So about the third time you
get told, who stop using that at all? Um? I

(55:02):
am a diehard Arkansas Razorbacks fan, and so I'll go
to I'm touring off all doing stand up. So I
don't know how many games I'll get to go to,
but you know, I'm hoping that you know, we can
go seven and five or so. And I'm a big
Coach Morris fan at Arkansas so, you know, I hope
they care that I come, but I don't think it's
because I'm Bobby bon just because I'm a diehard dog fan.

(55:22):
You mentioned your comedy to Aur. You are and a buddy,
and you guys started this when you were in high
school and now a sudden it kind of came back.
You guys used to play kind of uh spoof songs.
I know, old Town Road is the current one, which,
by the way, um, I was like assistant coach from
my son's baseball team and I did the walk up
music and I believe of twelve kids, ten of them

(55:43):
had Old Town Road as their walk up music. So
I'm I'm I'm good with some new versions of that
song because I'm kind of done with that song. But
this is kind of cool. This is like something you started,
I think when you're a fourteen and now you're doing
it again. Yeah. So you know, I've been doing a
stand up because I was a teenager and I have
a buddy and we did. We have a two a
comedy group and we're called the Raging Idiots, and so
we do original music and we we did a live

(56:04):
record in Boston a few months ago. But yeah, we
start back in Denver on Friday night, in Chicago the
next Friday. But it's a mixture of standout. When we
do a little like Broadway Show plus you know, just
it's like a bad Adam Sandler duo. So yeah, we're
we're doing that around the road and the Raging Idiots
has kind of been a thing for me. I started
um doing it on the road raising money for charity,
and we did a couple of million dollars for animal

(56:25):
shelters and for the children talk to and so from
that I signed a record deal and the whole thing
has kind of been you know, let's see how far
we can take it before people realize that we're really
not that talented. I mean, listen, Sandler has made like
ten bad movies with all of his buddies. We've founded
the same sort of jokes. Some of them early ones
were pretty good, now they're not. I mean, did you
get ten movies deep into this thing that's not that's

(56:46):
not a bad run? Did you watch the Dinner Party
movie on Netflix? I did? Not it's bad? Or is
it good? No, it's actually pretty good. I thought the
same thing. You know how the Siggle preview pops up
on the top left part of the screen, and like,
I know if I want to watch this, but I
watched it because it was just there and it was
it was pretty good. It was Sandler and Jennifer Aniston.

(57:06):
And you know, I don't know if you believe the
data that Netflix gives out like the most streamed shows,
but you know, that was really the biggest movie. I
thought it was fantastic. And I haven't. I'm still, you know,
trying to get into Stranger Things the third season. Are
you watching that? No? My wife and I were on too.
I haven't. I have a problem with Stranger Things, Okay,
stick me through. Freaks is like the first one. Kids

(57:29):
get kidnapped or they go missing. I have three children.
That's like every parent's biggest nightmare. I love. I love
the tip of the cap to the eighties because I'm
a child of the eighties. But it's like I have
friends that died in a plane crash. I can't watch
Lost because I can't get past the first episode. I
haven't been able to watch Stranger Things because kids disappearing
is like my biggest fear in life. Well, what do

(57:50):
you watch it on Netflix? I mean, I've watched bad men.
I've watched The Wire, I watched movies right now where
we just caught up on um Big Little Eyes, which
is obviously an HBO show, Big Little Lies. Last the
last Big Little Lives was amazing, so that would be.
And I watched a lot of I'm kind of sports nerd,
so I watch I'm actually the guy who watches baseball

(58:12):
on a given night, Dodgers and Angels and whatever. See.
Isn't it weird that we're watching all these shows on
Netflix on even Netflix shows and the Office and friends
of leaving Netflix, and all these new streaming platforms are
coming out Disney plus also you know Warner's gonna have one.
I mean, we have everything kind of. I mean even
like The Fresh Prince is one of the most viewed shows,
and it's moving somewhere too, and that a lot of

(58:33):
the shows that some people watch there are huge fans of,
like you listen like three, I've never seen Madman, and
I don't say that if somebody cool, but that is
such a massive show that I don't feel like I'm
missing out on because there's so many other great shows
I know, but I've never seen I've only seen one Thrones,
only seen One Thrones one episode. Yeah, I'm I'm on

(58:53):
Billions right now. Yes, you actually asked Netflix and what
I've been watching. My daughter's at camp, But I have
a thirteen year old who she's watching The Office us
trying to watch The Office all the way through. And
you've not watched The Office all the way through either, No,
I have I, but I'm watching with It's a different
experience when you're watching with a thirteen year old and
some of the a lot of the jokes are going
over her head. She does have her phone in her hands,

(59:14):
but she wants to know kind of all. She's more
into the storylines and she doesn't get some of the lines.
But you ask what I'm watching, Like, that's kind of
what I'm in on now. Like I have my stuff,
which is Billions and Big Little Eyes and some other
some other shows, and then my kids stuff, which I
have one that's mature enough to understand watch The Office,
and I think Friends is probably next for her. But

(59:35):
Friends is going away at the end of the year
over to another streaming service that we're gonna have to
pay for what We're gonna feel like we're missing out
when our cool friends are going Hey, you haven't seen
a new show, so yeah, that's kind of where we are.
But let me say this again, back to the point
I think, um the same thing. This this fantical football
is gonna be amazing because it's the first time it's
so different and you're gonna be able to watch and

(59:56):
actually controlled the players. And hopefully, you know, it'll start
this season if people will go, hey, are you are
you watching the Fan Control Football League? Because he's a
real players and it's like tech mobile basically for people
to vote on. And if it's everybody taking terrible plays,
that's still gonna be fun to watch. So if I
get to watch it, Heilman right, every play, I would
love to see Tom Brady Well he can't throw over

(01:00:17):
about thirty yards, but I would love to see a
Hail Mary every play in the NFL for a half. Uh,
your favorite country interview, favorite person to sit down with us?
Who I mean, probably Garth Brooks, just because he's the
most biggest selling American artist of all time of any
format and so you know, I mean, he's outsold Elvis.

(01:00:39):
So with that being said, he comes in and he's
just the nicest, coolest guy. And then Luke Brian, we're Bud.
We do American Idol together, and so you know, it's
fun whenever you see one of your friends kind of
become the big star. Right now, let me let me
ask you about Garth. Do you know the story of
how he met his first wife? Well, there are a
lot of you tell me what story you know? Okay.
The story is, I went to State. So the they

(01:01:00):
used to play a place called the tumb Weed, which
is outside of town, and most of it's like a
country dance bar, dance hall, and then there's uh and
then there's like a there's like a hip hop part
to it as well, which is where we used to hang.
And so the story goes that he was a bouncer.
In addition, he worked at a place called Dupris, which
is the big one of the big hat t shirt chops.
He used to play at a place called Willie Saloon,

(01:01:21):
which I actually tended bar while it's a basketball player.
My wife worked the door. But he met his first
wife he was like a part time bouncer at the
Weed and she got into a fight with another chick.
He separated them and then hit on her. That's the
story I was told, is that an accurate depiction or
did you give you her another one I've heard I've
heard a similar story. Yes, that's I think that's a

(01:01:41):
pretty again end time stories get better and better as
you know, um, but I've heard a similar story to
that yet. And like Gartha ball players still it's it's
odd how good an apple he was. Because we went
to Colomastime on a track scholarship and you know, his
his baseball run when he was you know, doing the pretest,
you know, spring training with the Padres, and he has
a basketball courts and he plays all the time here

(01:02:05):
till in Nashville. Yeah, and it's it's almost an open game,
like you wouldn't believe how it kind of available. Garth
Brooks is again the dudes worth hundreds of millions of dollars,
but he just plays ball and for his activity is
on stage. I'm often like, hey man, you know, worried
about your your cause I jump if I played any
pick of it all, Like it's it's a hamstring or

(01:02:25):
an a cl just begging to be torn. At this
point in my life, stop it. You just did dance
with the star. You one dance with the stars. That
stuff is far more athletic and far you like I
would with all the training you did, I would fear
like hurting myself. And then if you hurt yourself dancing,
that's a tough story to relate to somebody else, Like,
had you heard yourself like I was dancing? Now? I was.
I was doing ballroom dancing, even even though the stuff
you guys were doing was was pretty crazy. I've never

(01:02:48):
danced before. When Vegas put out the odds, because I
also have a big veggas guy, I was last. They
had the odds of everyone on the show, and because
no one had heard of me, really and I don't
know if I even look like an athlete, and I
still I'm on a decent athlete. I was last on
the entire on the odds and so to be able
to pull that show out was pretty cool. And they're

(01:03:08):
gonna you know, I haven't been invited back that would
you take this as a flight? So far, I have
not been invited back to the premiere of next season
because my win was so controversial last year. You haven't
been invited back? Why? No? Usually, I don't know. No
one's reached out and said, hey, would you like to
come back to the premiere episode champ. So I've been
sitting here because I, you know, just waiting for my

(01:03:29):
hey come up. And I met Emtt Smith last year
after I one like all the other champions to go
hang out. So far and they haven't asked me to
come back. And you know, beat the guy on the show,
which I'm pretty proud of. That went too. Was there
something went down the green room that we don't know about.
Was there nothing in the green room? But I'm telling you,
those fans are so hardcore and angry that I won
that show because I don't know how to dance. I

(01:03:51):
still don't know how to dance. I never knew how
to dance. But I won the show because the people
kept voting for me, and I think because of that,
they're gonna be some rules. I think I broke the system.
I think me and might be people broke the system
of Dancing with the Stars, and so far I haven't
been invited to come back and represent the championship. Crown um.
Last thing you mentioned you're a huge Arkansas football fan.
I've I've been. I'm kind of indoctrinated into Arkansas stuff

(01:04:14):
because I've played for Eddie Sutton, who you know who
had Arkansas raised a prominence in basketball before Nolan Richardson
won a national championship. And it strikes me as amazing
that they went from Brett Bielema, who would put if
he could, would put ten offensive linemen on the field
to Chad Morris, who is like oop dop offense, spread
them out five wide and let's throw it. How how

(01:04:37):
long till you think Arkansas is legitimately competitive and what's
the toughest division in college football? I think it'll be
a struggle this year to go, you know, to win
six games. I think it's good if we could somehow
manage seven. But you know, I think next year for
us is really where it starts to go. All right,
let's got a decent ball game. I'm a huge Chad
Morris fan, but you're right. We went from Bobby Petrino,

(01:05:00):
who's just chunking balls and running spread to Brett b Lema.
And with Brett there was there was some time to
you gotta get you know, all those big boys back,
and even with coach Morris, like it takes a couple
to few years, as you know, to recruit a type
of player to run your offense. Whatever it is so
with us in Arkansas. We've we've gone spread to pro

(01:05:21):
styled back to to spread, and so we just keep going. Man,
give us somebody for a few years and let us
at least try it. Um So, I think this year
for us to to go five hundred. And I hate
to say that, but I've become less of a homer
as is. I've gotten into my later thirties and more
of a realist. And you have a nasal too, So
it's you know, there's there's there's other teams to kind
of fall in love. Yeah. I don't fall in love

(01:05:42):
with any other team ever. That is that is wrong.
There are no teams for me to fall in love
with except Arkansas. I'm a one I'm a one one
team guy, Doug. That's it. Nobody says this in my eyes.
So you're not Clay Travis, right. So Clay who he
wants to adopt you as like some quasi brother for
another mother, but he hops from team to team. He
does love Tennessee, but he also because of a Michigan tie.

(01:06:04):
There's Michigan, there's Michigan. Although he kills hardball. Um, I
gotta Speaking of Arkansas, the Petrino story at Arkansas at
the end is kind of the most amazing story that
I want a thirty for thirty on that one. Right,
Like he hired I don't know how, I don't know
how real of a story. I don't know how honest
with the story you're gonna get with that though, I know,
but he hires he hires a young woman to be

(01:06:25):
like his recruiting coordinator. They have like a relationship that
nobody knows about, right, Like she's flying her everywhere and
she's helping him recruit. And then she's on the back
of his motorcycle. He gets road rash from a crash,
lies about it, has that amazing press conference. Turns out
she's engaged to a another coach, like a strength coach

(01:06:46):
on campus. Like that whole thing is one of the
most steaming dumpster fires. And then the picture of him
up on stage with with a neck brace on and
facial road rash lying about what happened is that's incredible story. Well,
and here's the thing too, I don't even again. You know,
we talked about the Garth Brooks story and if it's

(01:07:06):
stays accurate or get some bellish over time, I think
there's still a lot of that that really hasn't seen
the light of day yet, a lot of the story
that you still go, holy crap, does that really happen?
But with that, I'll say this, I just am wanting
a win so bad. Like I'm such a fan. I
would love to see a championship. I really don't care
what the coach took it up with like that in

(01:07:27):
my business, do you you would it was somebody else
and okay, just win games, like as long as you're
not hurting kids or animals, like, just win me some games. Um,
so I would. I would draw the I would draw
the line and engaged somebody who's engaged with somebody draw
the line and engaged to I would, yes, and so

(01:07:48):
would you. But we are we we have um empathy
and sympathy and feeling not everyone does. As a fan,
all I'm hoping for is that the coach just win
me some games and doesn't do anything and legal. That's
all I want, all right, Bobby Bones joining us on
the Dugallup Show. My couple of takeaways are, if you
want to meet that woman of your dreams, you gotta
follow Garth Brooks and you need to be a bouncer

(01:08:10):
at one of the big clubs in Nashville. Uh. Secondly,
you gotta, you gotta, you gotta create train this dog
and cut out the midnight wake ups. They can absolutely
freat training him. I'm already what he's gonna create, but
he's taking him out of the crate at one in
the morning because he can only hold it for four
hours or not only No, they he's blad will not explode.
He's he can. This is this is you. You need

(01:08:34):
to You got a toughen up, dude. If you're getting like, listen,
this is this is It's like everything of the raising kids.
It's not the kids, it's the parents. This is a
parenting issue, Bobby, And listen, I know how rich you
are with soon as he goes down, I'm gonna hit
you up. I'll stick you by last thing, does your
football team in Vegas have a nickname? Not yet, because
the fancy to pick it control football leagues. Fans pick

(01:08:55):
the names, the colors, the coaches like everything about it.
There is nothing yet because the fans haven't schosen it yet. Bobby,
great to catch up, look forward to doing so in person.
And Uh. And in the meantime, you can go see
his comedy show as Comedy Tour, which takes you all
around the country. I know you'll be in Oklahoma City
in September. My buddies already trying to get tickets to

(01:09:16):
go see that. In the meantime, best of luck with
the young pup, Thank Doug. But all right, it's Bobby
Bones joining us, who, of course is he's the seacrest
of of country music big and I doubt sincerely that
he has trouble meeting women, but the Garth Brooks method
could in fact work. That was fun catching up with

(01:09:36):
Bobby Bones. What about you music? What do you on
on Netflix or on Amazon? What's what's the shows you're into? Uh?
Currently it's on Amazon. It's that show Hannah. What's Hannah?
Have you watched Shack Ryan? Yeah, already watched r Yeah
it was great, great, great. Hannah's about Uh this guy,

(01:10:01):
it's hard to explain. He kidnapped girl. He kidnapped a girl,
but it was he says, it's his daughter and she
and they were like living in the wilderness and he
like trained her to be this like crazy fighter because
he was in the army. And now, as the show
goes on, you're starting to find out what what special
projects she was involved in and why he kidnapped her

(01:10:26):
to take her away from whatever situation she was in.
All right, what about you, Ramos? Are you a Netflix
or an Amazon guy? Or do you need you need?
We just finished A Stranger Things. Yeah it was good.
Season three was good. Yeah, I've enjoyed the last two
seasons and so this one was good. You have kids,
My my agent a little bit younger. How long did

(01:10:48):
it take you to get over the thing about the
kids being abducted? Not really long. Actually, I didn't really
think about that once you you brought up. Now, see,
I look at it as a show and just kind
of like, no, I get monsters where I see where
you're coming from. Though I didn't really think about that,
and so you no, this is what I do. My
favorite show used to be s VU, right lawn under SVU,

(01:11:11):
and then like, I have a wife, I have daughters, like,
and there's some terrible things done to women in those shows,
and I get it, it's a TV show, stupid, But
those SVU stories are basically like somebody saw a newspaper,
he researched it, made it into an s VU story, right,
and I just like, I I don't want to know
about that that that stuff. That's like, I know the

(01:11:31):
real world is out there and I just want to
block it out. So I struggle with that. That's my
that's that's my internal struggle. So you're over stranger things?
What your next thing was Stranger Things being done? Um? Jeez,
I don't know. I watched the I Forgot his name
and the comedian is it a z Yeah? Seasons Are.
I watched his his Netflix special. I thought it was funny. Yeah,

(01:11:52):
it's very good. It's very very good, very good. He's
he's damn funny. Anyway, my thanks to body Bones and
the you know, the actually a champ. I'm pretty proud
of myself. We got in talking about his bulldog. We
didn't talk about how gaseous those dogs can become, Like
they're super cute, but man, they they snore and it

(01:12:12):
comes out of the other end as well. And they're
expensive and apparently they get him up in the middle
of the night when he has to get up early
in the morning. Coming up next? Do the Clippers have
exactly what it takes to stop lebron James find out? Next?
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on the Clippers potentially getting the ultimate Lebron James stopper.
If the Clippers get Andrea Guadala, they will have the best,
second best, and third best players in the league at
defending Lebron James. If you're drafting guys just to defend Lebron,
they would have Quis your number one draft picks years

(01:13:18):
Paul George, number two, draft pick, Andre Guadali number three.
He would every minute he played against them in a
playoff series, he would have one of those three guys
guarding him. So I think they are the best fit
for him. I don't know that's where he's gonna end up,
but that would be a dynamic addition. I think the
style it would fit him there, but I think it's
a better fit for him in Denver. Yeah, I think

(01:13:41):
he ends up with the Lakers UM because if you
had his former agent is Rob Polinka, and the Lakers
are going to save a seat for him, a spot
for him if he can, if he gets bought out,
so they could get him UM. The another gigs in

(01:14:01):
Mavericks are interested in adding a veteran, but I don't
see that one happening. The one point that should be
made about Iguadala, and I thought he showed incredible competitive
what's called you know, competitive greatness, the ability to raise
your level when greatness is called upon, is that Iguadala
can't stay healthy. You know he he just he struggles

(01:14:24):
to stay healthy in UM in the most important situations.
He wasn't healthy this year in the playoffs, wasn't healthy
last year in the playoffs. He was incredible in Game
six against the Rockets. I mean absolutely incredible, hit five threes,
but he hadn't hit five threes in over five years
in the NBA. He's a guy that's gonna have to

(01:14:44):
find a role in a championship caliber team and hope
that once they get to the finals or once they
get to the playoffs, then he can become useful. Um,
you know, like, look, there's there's a reason that the
Warriors want to move that salary, and as much as
they love Andreagodala, they were kind of ready to move on.
Can he guard Lebron James? Sure, sure, he gives them

(01:15:05):
depth of guarding Lebron James. But that cats fifty thirty
five years old. He's been the league for fifteen years,
and I just don't see him having the type of
success outside of Golden State because when he played with
the Warriors, they played small ball. He was essentially the
power forward and because they had so much shooting, he

(01:15:28):
could be the one guy who would be left alone.
And I don't think any team outside of maybe the
Lakers has that much shooting. And oh yeah, by the way,
the ties of having having had Rob Blink in the
past makes sense to me. I mean you start to
realize we're talking about Andrew Goodala, Like he's Andre Goodala,

(01:15:49):
you know, going he had an average double figures in
seven years in the league. He averaged a career low
last year five point seven points per game. He played.
He's only played in more than seventy games twice in
the last six years, so not the same cat that
he used to be. Coming up next, we'll talk to

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(01:17:21):
saw a tweet here my man Sam May's who's a
former American lineman, saying I just had his first and
last experience with in and out burger. Of course, he
compares it to what a burger. Let's just peruse the
room here real quick. This is important stuff, Ryan music.
Your favorite burger is what chain burger too. Don't give

(01:17:42):
me the you know, don't don't give me the there's
only two of these. One of these are chain burger.
I'm gonna have to go with the habit the habit
um Ramos. Tell me if I'm being wrong. Isn't the
habit like isn't that like a ten dollar burger? I
have not been to the habit I've seen the store.
I don't know how much it is. I don't know, Ryan,

(01:18:04):
from there, I mean, they're a little bit more than
and I feel like I feel like that would be
more of a but no, they're not like ten dollars.
They're like five or six dollars. It is, okay, so
it's it's fast. It's fast casual, right, so it's like
Chipotle style. You go up and each telling what you
want on your burger, and they no, I mean, there's
like a menu that you just order from. It's not

(01:18:26):
like customizable. They have a set menu and then you
go from there. Uh, all right, I'll allow it all out.
It feels more like a restaurant than a fast food
joint that my friend is called branding. Okay, um, you'll
go with the habit that I did not see that

(01:18:46):
one coming. They have, like I've heard they have fried zucchini.
That's really good. It's a zucchini that they have. It's
that's really good. To have something else that's fried, that's
really good. But rammo'st what's your favorite burger? I'm an
in and out guy. I do love some in and
out on the way home from work. Maybe there's an
an out headed home might pull in there, grab some
burgers for the family and then they love it. By
the way, just follow up real quick. A char burger

(01:19:08):
which cheese is four kay? Okay, So so that's that's acceptable.
That's acceptable. Have you guys had steak and shake? Have
you guys had what a burger? Have you had some
of the other burger of the world? Was it five guys?
I've had five? Yeah, I've had that. I had five guys.
Have not had water burger? And I don't think I've
had steak and shake either. We need to get you

(01:19:29):
guys out out in the real world the rest of
the rest of the world. Um, Ralph Irvin, I know
you're you're a super busy guy. I don't know if
you're a vegan or vegetarian. So if you are your best,
you can give your best vegan vegetarian. But it's your
favorite burger. Uh. Five guys, what do you have on
your burger? Meat and cheese? No, no, sauces. No, if

(01:19:52):
I'm in the mood, barbecue sauce. But I like meat
and cheese. I just like the flavor of it pure.
I Actually I'm with you, Like, look, if a burger
is good enough, you don't need catchup, you don't. You
definitely don't need mayonnaise, you don't like. If a burger
is juice enough, you don't need any of that other stuff. Um.
The it's why out is not number one is because

(01:20:13):
it's in and out to me, is about everything beyond
the burger, which is always fantastic. I just don't want
that on my burger. So that's why you don't have
to have that on your burger. No. No, I'm just
saying that's what to me makes it stand out above
the rest. Oh I don't. I would disagree from that perspective,
Like I think in and out thing is like we
just make burgers right, Like they're like, well, what else

(01:20:33):
do you have in your many You're like, now we
just we just make burgers. However you want your burger,
that's how we make it. I think fat, yeah, keep
it simple, stupid. I think fat Burger is underrated. Set
now Fat Burger uses relish on the burgers right, like
if you get your right and that In and Out
Burger gets the with a thousand Island secret sauce whatever,
um and I like you and Out. I like a
good tomato, and their tomato is usually really good, like

(01:20:53):
if you can't if you have a bad tomato, that
can ruin the burger. But I don't need I don't
need ketchup or Mayo or say Sonic solid. I think
Wendy's is underrated. I think it's Wendy's is a very
underrated burger. I haven't had a Burger King in years,
but I always thought they were fine. It's funny like
nobody mentions McDonald's. I think they have the best French fries.
I don't under I don't understand people's need though to

(01:21:16):
go like well, I like, why do we do this?
Like like in and Out Burger and everything else is
crap or in an outch crap and don't talk to
what How do we get to that amount of polarization
in everything? As you speak? As you speak, Doug Tray
Scott at he hate Twitter, shake shack is life. Nothing
else matters at Gollip Show, shake Check's good, shake Check's good. Um,

(01:21:40):
but he seems to be a shake shack or nothing else,
shake yack or nothing else. You better be on his
team with shake shack or you're nobody doing Maybe maybe
it's people do this with car trucks too, Like Truck
Guide has tensity to do it sometimes cars, but like
truck guys like I'm a Dodge guy. Yeah, but have
you seen that new Ford? Hey Man, maddge guy? Like
what about that new Chevy? My dadge guy? But the

(01:22:00):
GMC that that Toyota, Like, oh Toyota, Wait, that's a
foreign company. They don't know how to make a truck Like,
actually it's made the United States. Never mind, I'm a
Dodge guy. I don't know how we we got to
to that point. But there's a similarity there with with
Baker Mayfield in that we we get to this point

(01:22:22):
where I think people are when you give honest perspective
on Baker and you say he's little. He wasn't walk
on He's like Russell Wilson, only not as athletic, maybe
not as strong an arm. You know, he's at the Browns.
They probably overdrafted him. They didn't have to take him

(01:22:42):
number one overall, like he still put it been around
and will you say those things people think like it's
like giving an honest appraisal of what a burger like. Yeah,
I like what a burger, but I'm not sure I
like their buns nearly as much as I like the
intern out burger buns, or I like it and out fry.
How do you like? It's we it's weird. I was

(01:23:04):
reading this article Mina Kimes wrote it on Baker Mayfield
and people do, as some are pointed out in this article,
people do believe in love and accept Baker Mayfield's flaws
because even though he's flawed, it makes him more human.
And the assumption is that these are superhumans and maybe

(01:23:25):
they're right, maybe they're right. I don't think of quarterback
as a as a position where superhumans exist. I think
that was one part of the article that I didn't
really agree with. Like no one ever thought like Joe
Montana was superhuman. Tom Brady's lack of athleticism has or
even his his body come out of college obviously has
been made fun of. Aaron Rodgers throws the football and

(01:23:46):
moves throwing the football um as well as anyone I've
ever seen it. But the only superhuman that plays quarterback
in the NFL is Cam Newton. Like Cam Newton looks
like a cartoon character. He's so big, so strong, run
so fast, throws the football so hard. And I think
he's not even in the conversation of being one of

(01:24:07):
the elite quarterbacks right now because of his shoulder problems
in his lack of accuracy. So I don't agree. But
they are usually six two and above. Drew Brees obviously exception,
and so too is Baker Mayfield. But we're at this
weird place. We're at this weird place in society, and

(01:24:28):
we've done it obviously with politics. Where when it when
when we decide that somebody is being picked on, when
we decide that somebody is flawed, but they're but they're good,
and we think they're real and they're tangible that will
accept their flaws. On the other hand, if those of

(01:24:52):
us who are assigned to pointing out their efficiencies and deficiencies.
Point out those deficiencies. Somehow we're a Hey, am I
making am? I making sense with with music? With how
I'm wording it right, Like if I say, hey, did
you know that Baker Mayfield when they played the good
defenses last year, We'll throw the Broncos in there, put
the Ravens the Steelers. Uh, they played the Ravens actually twice,

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you know, when they played the good defenses, played the Chargers.
He had ten touchdowns, eleven receptions. He wasn't particularly good.
I don't care about play calling. Like of those six games,
five of them were after the coaching change. When we
point that out, somehow we become a hater. But those
are just real stats, and that's it's only about football.

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It's not about I don't care that he grabbed his
crotch in college, you know, because I know there other
things that went into it. I don't care about, you know,
the public in talks when he was visiting the University
of Arkansas, even the played quarterback at OU. Like, I
I don't those things. I get it. He's a much
better leader. I've told you guys, he's a much better
leader and guys love playing for him, and that's a

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big part of playing quarterback. In the end, fell And
I do think that he has the ability to process
information quickly. His flaws are in sometimes his ego hasn't
make throws that he can't make, and he is small,
he doesn't have the he doesn't have a huge arm,
and so there are things that he can't see. But
if I point that out, I'm a hater. Even if

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his flaws are actually what draw fans to him, Does
that make any sense? No, totally, um. And they even
talk about in that article with Mina Kimes, is he,
as we were mentioning earlier, he looks at things in
a very black or white type of situation. You're either
in on it and I'll fight with you to the
end and defend you, or you're not in on it,

(01:26:42):
which means you're now against me, so I'm completely out
on you. And one thing, Um that Mina Kimes point out,
which was fair, was one of the only missteps that
he's had so far as a leader in drawing those
harsh lines was the Duke Johnson thing, where he criticized
Duke Johnson for requesting a trade the team has decided
not to trade him because they haven't gotten good value

(01:27:04):
out of the trade yet. So now he's called out
Duke Johnson, he's still on the team, and now they're
about to start training camp. Well not uh, not just that.
It's it's not just that Duke still on the team.
It's that you have to remember, dude, you got boys
in the locker room, right, you got guys in the
locker room, and it's just what what is what is

(01:27:25):
the win income? You don't have to comment on everything.
I also think it's interesting that the same guy who
is critical of the media for for their his their
criticism of him or of other guys or Odell Beckham Jr.
Doesn't seem to react well to similar criticism of him. Granted,
I would think some of it is unfair, but some

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of his defense of like you know, his defensive Odell
Beckham Jr. Where he's like, I think the Giants Giant
fans should have supported him more like do they give
him the biggest contract any wide receiver had ever been
given and he still bailed an onside kick. He wasn't
healthy the whole season. He has been a bit of
he has been a bit of a drama queen, and
just because he's on your team now, like there's a

(01:28:08):
way in which you can simply say we're gonna get
the best out of him. What you saw Mode Beckam Jr.
Was incredible, is impactful, but he's gonna be even better
now because we and we all believe in him and
we believe there's the next wave to him. But you're right,
the Duke Johnson thing was a misstep, and I'm sure
at the time he only meant it to say either
you're in it or you're not. And if you're with us,

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you know I'll ride or die for you. Lack of
a better expression. By the way, Tommy Burger in Southern
California and a big fan, you guys, said Tommy Burger
Chili on ever. Anybody got to get the chili Burger
Ralph Ralph in the other studio he's working, but he's
pumping his fists up and down, just losing his mind.
Tommy's Tommy's who wasn't He did the comedy bit on

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things calling themselves world famous right where you like you?
You know, I went to London the other day and
I asked him about Tommy Burger've never heard of it, right,
But this this whole idea of being world famous, well,
you're not worthy would world famous. Tommy's Cheeseburgers, which aren't
really world famous, are fantastic, and that burger is not
just from a rap song in the nineties. It's a

(01:29:14):
real place also amazing. You know what, Mike Baked takeaway is,
burgers are generally good. And one of my biggest struggles
as a parent is my son doesn't love hamburgers or cheeseburgers. Yeah,
you failed. Sorry, I feel like I failed as a parent.
Doesn't matter the baseball games, the the football, the coaching,

(01:29:34):
the basketball, everything you've done for him will not live
up to the fact that he does not like burgers.
I hate to say it, but you're right. I'm a
failure as a parent, as a human being in general.
And ba inside, Rick Buker joins the show. Coming next,
does he think Russell Westbrook is the most important player
in the history of the thunder and well Kevin Durant
and Kyrie Irving destroyed the Nets chemistry find out next.

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Be sure to catch live editions of The dug Leap
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Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio. This just
in from agent Oreganowski UH NBA insider story filled story

(01:30:20):
has just been filed. Oklahoma City's discussions to move nine
time All Star Chris Paul onto a new distant destination
are parked, and increasing expectations exist that he will start
the season with the Oklahoma City Thunder. With that, let's
welcome in. Rick Buker, he too, an NBA insider, writes
for Bleacher Report. You can see him on Fox Sports one.
All the TV shows speak for yourself, especially as well

(01:30:40):
as Undisputed and with Colin cowherd. Uh. Is this just
a case of that's a terrible contract and they can't
find a destination for it, or is there something more
at play? Well? No, I can tell you that they
made the deal not having a stet place to move
him on too. I can also tell you that it's

(01:31:02):
their intention to move him on that that Chris Paul
uh and what the Oklahoma City Thunder are are trying
to do right now are not a match. So UH
saying that it's parked, Okay, it's park Did they take
the keys and did they throw them in the river. No, Uh,
they're they're searching for a partner. And I believe it

(01:31:26):
as much. This is Chris Paul not wanting to look
like he's some sort of vagabond at this point, and
just I know that he's going to have his druthers
in terms of where he goes. Miami would be a
place that he would be open to. Minnesota is another
place that I've heard. Uh if if they're desperately wanting

(01:31:47):
to get off of Andrew Wiggins, so, um, would they
would they consider that? Would Oklahoma City consider that the
bottom line is Chris Paul's very much is going to
be in a and is not part of Oklahoma City's future. Uh,
if they are unable to move him before the season,

(01:32:08):
it won't be from a lack of crying. You know,
it's it's can I give you my read on it
real quick? I feel like, um, I feel like the
story that was yesterday was, um, there's a deal to
be had there. But the Heat want both their draft
picks back right now, the story today, and so they're
not motivated to make the move. So now Oklahoma City,

(01:32:28):
you know, through Woads, Hey, we're just gonna maybe you'll
just open the season. This just feels like negotiating through
the media, right yeah, no, no, no, yeah, there's there's
no question that this is posturing. I mean, whoever, whoever
is reporting it that if you if you take a
step back and you look at what Oklahoma City wants
to do, Uh, they want to move Chris Paul Are

(01:32:49):
What is it going to cost them at this point
to move him? That's the sticking point. So unless we're
talking about that, anything else is just posturing. Rick Bucker,
Johning Us do you think the Westbrook marriage with James
Harden ultimately works? When you say works, what do you

(01:33:12):
what are we trying to accomplish that they will kill
each other? Yes, they will? I will it work. It's not.
It's not going to bring them a championship. So no,
it's not gonna work. Is it gonna make them any
better or worse than last season? I believe that Russ
Westbrook actually might be better. People might look at him

(01:33:35):
in a different light playing with Mike D'Antoni and potentially
playing with more shooters around him, or playing for Mike D'Antoni.
I should say, is it going to make the Houston
Rockets anymore of a threat to win a championship in
the Western Conference. I have no reason to believe that,
because it's still gonna be taking number your turn, my turn. Uh.

(01:33:57):
Let's don't see a way in which this pair combines
not only to to work efficiently together, but to get
everybody else working efficiently as well. Yeah, and then and
then you have the status of Mike D'Antoni kind of
lame duck status to be a new staff. And I
don't think Russell Westbrook is completely uncoachable, but he's not

(01:34:17):
easy to coach. And it's a lot harder to coach
a guy when you don't have a long term contract
and you don't have a staff that's been with you
the whole time well, and and that you're not one
really for confrontation. And it's I mean that if you
look at the array of coaches that Russ has had,
none of them have been willing to, by all appearances,

(01:34:42):
stand up to Russ and say this is the way
we need you to play for us to be effective.
And I believe that he could be better for Mike
simply because Mike. Uh, if if I'm gonna rate Scottie
Brooks Billy Donovan, Mike D'Antoni from an offensive effects is
an O standpoint, Mike, Mike has a gift for making

(01:35:05):
guys look good and putting them in a sweet spot,
particularly guards, particularly ball dominant guards. So I can see
where he he might make Russ look more effective than
than he ever has. But I still don't see how
that's gonna make this team better than it's been with
Chris Paul or anybody else. Sean Marks went on a

(01:35:26):
New York City station and and and said basically like, look,
they didn't even have to recruit Kevin Durant. He committed
to them before they are talked to him. And and
then he take a listen. This, this is this is
Sean Marks, take a listen. I think everything has to
change slightly. You know, we haven't had that type of talent,
you know, unless across the board. I'll put all our

(01:35:48):
free in that, not just the two of those guys
that you mentioned, all of them, and the things are
going to change, Things are gonna adapt. They have to.
They have to start driving the culture. That's that's what
it's all about. We have to learn them from them.
These guys have been in the league they're elite level
players and we have to see what we can learn
from them as well. It's fascinating, right, um going to

(01:36:09):
like it topping if you're her been before. But Kyrie
Irving is going to a place that has a great
culture and has played and allowed a point guard to
exceed any expectations, and he's gonna come in and they're
gonna change some things that he's going to teach them. Like,
doesn't this feel like both Boston and Golden State all
over again? Well again, Doug, we're looking at reports or

(01:36:34):
media or interview that really looks past what's really going on,
which is Kyrie Irving. And he was being truthful when
he said we didn't have to recruit. It wasn't the
Brooklyn Nets making the decision that Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving
we're going to become Brooklyn Nets. Kyrie Irving and Kevin

(01:36:55):
Durant decided we'd like to be Brooklyn Nets, and the
brook one that said, well, how can we say no
to two guys like this? I love I really like,
respect and admire what Sean Marks has done uh as
in his first turn as a GM. I I love

(01:37:17):
what he's done with the brooklyn Nets. But this, this
is really unfair to him to put him out there
and try to explain what they're what they're doing, because
it wasn't in his hands. It was it was k
D and Kyrie deciding to become brooklyn Nets. And and

(01:37:38):
now he has to explain how or why they're going
to make this work. And so what else can you
say except we got two guys that are going to
be the biggest personalities and stars that we've ever had.
It's completely anathema to what I've done with this this
franchise up until now. And so we're gonna have to

(01:37:59):
make room for because you know what, we don't have
any other choice. So none of that would suggest that
it's going to work or that it's even the healthiest
thing to do. I mean, if this was if there
was conversation between Sean and these guys and there's any
kind of negotiation, there was any part that the brooklyn
Nets had in this marriage becoming, so it would have been, hey,

(01:38:23):
how do you look like? This is what we've been
to this point, um, how do we make this work?
There's there's been none of that conversation. It's it's Sean
trying to figure out. Okay, I've been given these two
very talented but troubled stars. How am I gonna make
it work? Well, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have
to listen to them and figure it out. And then

(01:38:47):
you have the Boston Celtics who today welcome in Kemba
Walker and and its cantor to their franchise officially. Um
take a listen. This is what Danny Ainge had to
say whore here today about about the plans for this
offseason and how they ultimately landed Kembo. I'm sorry, I

(01:39:07):
thought he thought he had He said, like, this is
plan A. Now I don't know if he's if he's
full of it or if it's Plan A after but
I I thought Kembo, I mean Kyrie was plan am.
I like all the things that Kemba said, like, look
look at how the point Guards have succeeded. I've never won.
I want to win consistently. What do you think of

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Boston because it feels like they may have lesser talent
but maybe a better fit with their new pieces. Yeah,
they may. This is what we're gonna find out with
this group. We're gonna find out how much no one's
seeing them coming and with after Kyrie and Gordon Hayward
got hurt, and how much that was a motivating factor

(01:39:51):
for them being the underdogs. How much of an impact
that really had two years ago when they into the
conference finals. Because yes, they have lesser talent than they
had with with Kyrie. I don't think anybody's gonna put
Kemba and Kyrie in the same category. I think they're

(01:40:12):
gonna but Kemba as a leader certainly gets higher marks
than he does. But I look, Danny Ainge is really
dodging a major bullet here because no one but no one,
And I'm a little surprised by the Boston media on this.
He lost Al Horford and Kyrie Irving for Kemba Walker.

(01:40:36):
On what planet do you lose that kind of talent
and then turn around and say this is what I
intended to do and get away with it. I I
get the sense that you're looking at that with uh
with a bit of a squint. I would hope that
everybody would, because however you look at it, Danny ains

(01:40:58):
put together a team last year that underachieved mightily, and
then two of the pieces walked out the door. And
if you want to say Kyrie Irving, you know, is
addition by subtraction. That's fine. Um. And you can say
that Al Hartford would have was was asking for too much,
But the bottom line is you lost those guys. Yeah.

(01:41:19):
I think that's fair. Um. But I also think it's
fair to like, look, well, we'll find out how good
Jayson Tatum is. We'll find out how good Jalen Brown is,
because now they'll have the ability they want to have
the built in excuse of Kyrie was holding his back.
And and I agree. I I thought I thought the
the this was plan a thing was uh it was bs.

(01:41:40):
I mean, that's really like right, that was not their planning.
I do think that landing Kemba, landing at a high
quality free agent third out of the last four years, uh,
kind of disproves the theory that free agent don't want
to go there. But there were some other factors kind
of working in there. Um. Andre Gadala, where does he
end up? Boy? That's a good question. And I at

(01:42:01):
this point I don't know because a lot of it
has to do with you know, the Memphis. Memphis did
this with Mike Connelly. It's why Mike Connelly wasn't moved
at the trade deadline, is that they wanted to uh,
they wanted a king's ransom for him, and then they
sobered up and and took what they could get. Andrea
Guadala is sort of in the same camp. I'm sure
that there. What I've heard is, you know, they're looking

(01:42:24):
for a first round pick in in making this move.
They ultimately may get one, but it's going to be
heavily protected, and so that that's really going to determine
where he ends up. I don't get the sense. This
is what's interesting with both Chris Paul and Andrea Guadala
and I and I need to do a little more

(01:42:45):
homework on this. But teams are usually very conscious of
we we don't want to just move a guy. We
want to move a guy, and we want him to
be happy where we move him, because that sends a
signal to any other player that comes joins us, that says, hey,
if it doesn't work out here, we'll take care of
you on the way out. But Memphis is in a

(01:43:06):
little bit different Andre is not their guy, and Oklahoma City,
to a certain extent, Chris Paul is not their guy.
So I don't know how hard they're gonna work at
putting them someplace that they want to be. Um. The
bottom line is the Golden State Warriors were not happy
with Andrea Godala and the things that he said about

(01:43:27):
the medical staff, and they've put him in a very
difficult position with the Memphis Grizzlies and not being able
to decide ultimately where he plays as he closes out
his career. Yeah, they send a basketball purgatory, right, they
sent him to mempres um kind of weird. Two days
of stories the rich Paul so Clutch Sports yesterday they
lost Marcus Morris fired him and Nerlands Well fired him.

(01:43:50):
And listen, this does happen in basketball's you know. It
happens more with draft picks or guys that go undrafted.
They fire their first age and they hire the second age.
But Marcus Morris were committed to the San Antonio Spurs,
then renegged on it and signs a one year deal
worth five million more per yearfully one year with Nicks.
Then he fires Clutched Sports. New Lands Noel, who bet
on himself a couple of times over and has not

(01:44:12):
repped reaped any of the benefits. He fired Clutch Sports.
But then Clutch Sports today apparently was was bought up
for three million dollars for by by utc Um. What's
the rep of Clutch Sports today in the NBA with players?
I don't I don't know that the Marcus Morris or
the new Lands Noel decisions move the needle as far

(01:44:37):
as you. You are hiring Rich Paul and Clutch Agency
for a particular goal, which is I I don't care
about my relationship here. I have a certain destination. I
have a certain thing that I want to get done here,

(01:45:00):
and I'm willing to burn bridges in order to do it.
Rich Paul has looked at that guy who is is
willing to do whatever is necessary uh for his client,
uh and to get him where he wants to be. Now,
obviously things went a little sideways with Marcus in terms
of how that worked out and what Rich was trying

(01:45:24):
to accomplish. But uh, it's it's a little bit a
little bit like the late Dan Fagan, which is I'm
not worried about being the bad guy. I'll be the
bad guy in order to get you what you want.
The Marcus thing, the Marcus Morris thing, I still honestly
feel like it's more the exception than the rule. For

(01:45:45):
the way, guys look at Rich Paul right now? Interesting,
uh Rick, great stuff. Thanks so much for your perspective
and all the insight you give us in the NBA.
Look forward to seeing you more on Fox Sports One,
read your stuff and Bleach Report. Appreciate you joining us.
You got it all right. Coming up next on Doug
Gotlip Show. No more doctor's visits, Dr Gottlieb. Do you
learn more from losing or winning? Find out on the

(01:46:08):
Doug Gotlieb Show. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays at noon Eastern three
pm Pacific elyday. This time the gottli Show. We try
and get you caught up on all the stories of
the day, the headlines of the night. Gets you ready
for I get you ready for your night's games. We
do so by giving you the press. The press. Ralph

(01:46:32):
Irvin joins us, Ralph, what are you working on? Well,
you know what. It's media days for college football teams
across the country, and that means that everyone is gathering
in the South to hear from Nick Saban and Alabama
in this case, the whim the musings of too autograph Iloa,
who talked about how important it is to face adversity
coming off that loss from Clemson, you know, and then

(01:46:53):
you know earlier in my freshman year, we want the
national championship. Um. I think they were both good. I
know the sound. It's weird, you know, to to lose,
but um, when you win, it's it's it's a great feeling,
you know, but then when you lose, it isn't a
great feeling. And I think it was good that we
lost because what can you learn? And if you keep winning,
you can't learn as much. And of course that's too

(01:47:15):
a tongue of law saying those comments. Yeah, there's an
expression you're either you're you're the winning or you're learning right,
And I do think this is one of the things
that you're able to do in basketball. Little bit more
is coaches want that adversity. They want to see what
they really have. They they want to see how people adjust.
Your your weaknesses get exposed a lot more in a loss,

(01:47:36):
and it helps get guys attention. You're not unbeatable. Um,
So it's a weird thing to say. I mean, remember
he got benched and two got benched. For the SEC
in the SEC Championship game. And now he's back at
starting quarterback. He's fully healthy, and he has one great
win and he has a he has a loss to

(01:47:57):
to his resume. So we'll we'll see his bill of improvement.
I'm happy as hell. Uh. You mentioned earlier the article
on Baker Mayfield Will. In that article, it talks about
the fact that until the day of the draft, he
wasn't sure that the Browns would take him first overall.
He actually had been thinking New England would trade up
to take him at number two. And he found the

(01:48:17):
challenge of joining a long struggling team in Cleveland to
be exhilarating. Uh. Yeah, I mean it it is. It's
very very interesting how he paints it. I do think
there is something exhilarating about turning around a culture instead
of going to one that that's well established. I think
the throwing New England thing out there is interesting. There

(01:48:38):
were there were talks that they liked him, but there's
also a remember people said, oh they like Lamar Jackson.
They didn't have Lamar Jackson nearly that high on their board. Um,
but look, I mean he's been given a great opportunity.
You know, more power than probably any other young quarterback
in the league because so many people have been fired

(01:49:00):
it in now the head coach is kind of beholden
to him and a ton of talent. Jevis Landry is
not a superstar, but he's a good, uh, he's a
good pass catching wide receiver. And he got Odell Beckham Jr.
Got in Joeku, you have talented running back. I mean,
you got some dudes there, and they got some guys
in the defense side of the football. And I was

(01:49:20):
told by a lot of NFL people, you know, the
one thing that Baker has to have his guys that
makes some plays because he is literally can't see sometimes
over the middle of the field. And the Browns have
given him not only uh, not only talent, but power
and the right type of guys. So he's got a
great opportunity. The NFL and the NFL p A gathered
for their fourth set of talks about a new collective

(01:49:42):
bargaining agreement today. The schedule called for the meetings to
last three days, but after just a few hours while
they went their separate ways, and a joint statement said
that it was productive and constructive, beneficial for all sides,
but NFL media reporting that really what they wanted to
do was go their separate ways and review and a
group before coming back together on July. The current collective

(01:50:05):
bargaining agreement is up after the season, and Roger Goodell
would like to have one in place before the start
of the nineteen season. The big argument is going to
be over the eighteen games. You know, hey, we'll we'll
cut out these two preseason games, but we want to
add some games, add some revenue, and so what do
the players want back? Right, that's more revenue, which will

(01:50:25):
increase the salary cap. So you're already gonna get more.
You're already gonna have more money to spend. But that's
that's a lot of wear and tear. I continue to
believe that the NFL's play is going to be to
add more roster spots, add more jobs. Can the NFL
p A get more guarantees of money? Can they get
lifetime health insurance? Can they get things? I just I've

(01:50:47):
heard people say like, well they should, they should make
marijuana legal. Like here's the way the marijuana testing works.
You get tested once in the off season. Once. If
you pass that test, they don't test you for we
the rest of the year. So the idea that the
NFL somehow is dark dark uh is it darkon ian? Draconian? Sorry, draconian,

(01:51:09):
And that they're chasing guys down for smoking joints for
pain relief in the middle of the season, Like, no,
if you just pass one test, do whatever you want,
We're not going to test you for that. We will
test you for hardcore drugs and for steroids and h H, etcetera, etcetera.
So I don't think the NFL p A should pursue that.
I don't think they should try and get after Roger
Goodell for his power. I think they will, but I

(01:51:30):
think that that's a mistake. I think you should try
and get more money, try and get more healthcare insurance,
trying to get more jobs. And if you have to
give up the two preseason games to get to two
more regular season games, up man and uh and as
Cantor met with the media in Boston, we heard from
Danny Ainge earlier today, but he talks about why he

(01:51:52):
chose to wear the number eleven. Well, it was by
old Jersey number, by the way, number eleven, and um,
I want to be there is than the one screw.
I had to say it a little salty. Dating back
to Kyrie Irving, what did he say? He said he
wanted to be the reason that no one else would
wear number eleven, which is what said. That's a great line.

(01:52:15):
That's a good line. It's a good line. How many
teams is and his cancer been on here in the
last like two three years? You guys know, I have
in front of me. You wanta you wanna say? Guests
the music with that? Or have you looked? I have
not looked. I'm gonna say four four in the last

(01:52:35):
two years. Yeah, I'm just thinking thunder Nicks, Blazers and
now Celtics. Uh, there was somebody he was on. Well,
I guess the last ego back he was on Utah.
This is in two thousand fourteen. So yes, if I extinct,
you are correct team, fifth team overall though in the

(01:52:58):
last five seasons, in the last four seasons, I guess
crazy music. Yeah. Confident of Yankees left Eiraldi's Chapman says
the reliever is one million percent likely to exercises opt out.
While Chapman making it clear to reporters, no, no, no,
I haven't made any such decision one million percent. So

(01:53:21):
you're saying there's a chance. You are saying there's a chance,
there's no Give me one more. I do have, I
do have one more. David Price talking about Dennis Eckersley saying, honestly,
I think it's trash. He had an unbelievable career, twenty
five seasons, Hall of Famer, but one thing that stood
out was that he had zero teammates talking about him,

(01:53:42):
when no one. When I'm interviewed, when people are talking
about me, they're gonna talk about me. They won't to
have talking me about me at all. I won't have
to talk about myself. Basically, nobody likes Dennis Eckersle except
Dennis Eckerssly bagging out there and pressed that was the press.
David Price still bitter, right, still bitter. When he wasn't good,

(01:54:03):
he wasn't good. He is having an improved season with
a three point one six e r A, but boys
still bitter and honestly not living up to that huge contract,
albeit he has resuscitated his career this year. Danny Cannell,
Shane Bacon, and JP Morossi tomorrow The Got Leave Show,
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