The Cowboys Choked

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treat you, Bucky. The Dallas Cowboys fail to grasp the
NFC East. There is still hope for them in a
scenario where they could win the division, but they had
an opportunity to clinch the division and once again, the
Dallas Cowboys let it slipped through their hands, falling to
the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday seventeen to nine. Yeah. Very disappointing

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performance for the Dallas Cowboys. If you're Cowboys fan, you
have to be upset with the fact that everything was
lined up for you to just go in to Philadelphi.
You take care of business, win the division, rolling to
the postseason, and maybe be one of the dark horse
contenders going in. And I'm gonna say this, like I
thought Dallas had rediscovered their recipe when they knocked off
the l A. Rams. I thought they finally figured out

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this is the way that you have to win games.
Run through Zeke, defense playing better, and the performers that
they put up on Sunday was about as bad as
one as I've seen in a long time. Not only
were they outplayed, they were outcoached. I mean, this is
a Philadelphia team to have Carson Wentz and as we
look out as we look out the door of fox

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Worth Studios like him and a couple of the Vaga
and he's got the old Apple airphones, no AirPods. Still.
That mean, it's just it's just unbelievable that they were
able to pull that off. And so this is an
indictment not only the personnel, but man the coaching staff
filmed to put put together a game plan and then

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their players tapping out in critical moments. Zekiel Elliott not
in the game on a fourth Danas situation that was crucial.
Uh Amari Cooper round the cop out of the game
the last drive to me, I I just don't know
what to make of the Dallas Cowboys. Well, that leads
me to this point is I think that the Dallas
Cowboys reflect what we have in American politics. And I'll

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say this because those that were for Jason Garrett's dismissal,
those who don't think that Jason Garrett should be the
head coach of the Dallas Cowboys have enough ammuni issued
in that three hour window yesterday to show that he
should not be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
You go to the other side of the aisle. Dak
Prescott shouldn't be getting a long term contract extension. Dak

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Prescott's not getting not the quarterback in the future. They
have no key, They have their ammunition from yesterday's game.
It's what we get in politics. I was talking to
the guys before the show the Jeffrey Epstein situation, and
in situation is is probably not the best word to use,
but his scandal. Republicans sit there and say, look, let's

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see all the information of him and the Clintons. What
do you all the liberals and Democrats say, all right,
let's get the trump, like nobody is admitting that their
side is wrong, but they will admit that the other
side are idiots and at fault. And that's what you
have with the Dallas Cowboys. DA stunk yesterday. It may
have been the shoulder, but he was not on on

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his throws. It doesn't give him a pass for every
other game. And it doesn't say like, well, that's the
one off. He was not good when they needed it
the most. The coaching staff was not good when they
needed it the most. But you see these people traveling
in lane said one side is throwing bombs at the
other side, not accepting any fault for who really is
at fault? And what you said at the beginning, it

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was bad all around. It was bad all around, and
you're right, all the ammunition is there, Like if you
were on a deck supporter, the game yesterday was the
one to point you as they see, I told you,
I told you couldn't get it done, regardless of whether
he was playing with a her shoulder, a fracture thumb,
or whatever. Like that's not what people want when you
line up and play, you suit up and play. People
expect outstanding performance and they didn't get that. And it

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wasn't only Deck, it was a Marii Cooper with the
drops and Jason went, why is Jason winning out there?
Playing Jason Winten? Jason winn needs to come and sit
beside us, like we can put Jason on the other
side because he is a shell of himself, a shell
of the former player that used to be a dominant player.
And man, I mean, there's just so so much blame
to go around for the Dallas Cowboys. But you're right

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whatever side you were on, whatever side of the hour
you were on prior to the game. Man, you have
all of the evidence you need to support the case
that you really feel strong there. But what Bucky doesn't
realize is Jason Witten will come in here and we're
gonna put you on a scooter and you're gonna have
to do the show, do the Fox Sports radio hallways
and give your taps and just drive back and forth

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past our window here in sun California's let's go down
to the Bucket mobile the So the Cowboys they do
still have a chance, but let's be realistic for what
they put forth yesterday. Uh, there's not much of a
chance the Eagles, with a win against the Giants can
wrap things up. This was Jason Garrett talking about yesterday's
defeat at the hands of the Philadelphia Eagles. Unfortunately, didn't

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get the job done, and we all have to own it.
I have to own it. The coaching staff has to
own it. All the players and staff members have to
own it and give the Eagles credit. Uh, and now
we have to go forward. Unfortunately, we don't control our
destiny anymore, but we do control our opportunity next week
against Washington. So we'll get back in there. We'll we'll
clean up the scam, we'll get our eyes forward. We'll
try to do our part and finish up the season
the right way. A lot of coach speak, a lot

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of coach speak in that, I don't think so. I
think you try to take ownership of Look, they didn't
get it done, like try and keep the asked for
because they have to focus on the Washington risking game,
because they still have a chance. Because who knows this
team that we saw for the Philadelphia Eagles that played
against the Dallas Cowboys and all the people that we
saw a limp off. It's a very real possibility that

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they played the New York Giants and they lose to
the jac and if the Cowboys win, the Cowboys go well,
and there there there could be a possibility and another
Giants put a forty one in overtime went against the Redskins.
But that also leads to your point of what was
so bad about yesterday. The game shouldn't have been even
the game. The Cowboys shouldn't have been in a situation

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where they needed the Eagles to miss two fifty plus
yard field goals to give them field position for them
to actually get their own points. It never should have
come to that point, and I think that's what is
so disappointing. And if you look at the if you
look at the history of this team, when you see
where they are in big games, Unfortunately, Bucky, there's not
a lot of ammunition for Cowboys supporters to support their team.

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Last week's game against the Rams that you talked about
didn't matter. It really didn't like it was all going
of what was happening in week sixty and as they
were running over the Rams in week fifteen, the message
was still well, they just have to get this done.
And if this Cowboys team shows up in week sixteen,
then look out. Well it didn't. And that's the biggest problem.
It shouldn't have been a one possession game for Dallas yesterday. No,

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it shouldn't have been. There should have been a one
possession game. The game should have been one where if
you look at it on paper, the Dallas Cowboys were
the superior team based on the players that were available,
and for whatever reason, they didn't play the game the
right way to get it to the point where their
talent could overwhelm the Philadephia Eagles. UM, this is a
situation where in these big games, your biggest flaws are exposed,

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and the Cowboys were exposed all the flaws coaching, Uh,
inconsistent performance from the players. UH say, if you want
to throw Doc in there, and what his ceiling maybe
as a player, all of those things were there. And
so if I'm Jerry Jones and I'm sitting around looking, man,
where where do I even begin to to start the
rebuilding process? Because there's a lot of work to Dallas.

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Let's hear from the Cowboys owner after yesterday's loss, it
is very meaningful get him because of the content of
the circumstances within the league. And we've had times this
year a lot when we didn't play as well as
we wanted to play, but we had in mind stepping
back up here and getting a run and h having

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some good things happened. This is the disappointing set back
to that loc permanent for all of must not know
what it is for the fans. Yeah, the fans definitely.
And as we started out the show, Bucky talking about
what side are you on? Are you on the it's
Jason Garrett's fault, it was that Dak Prescott's fault, when
really it's everyone's fault. I'm I'm more supportive of Doc
for what he has done because Doc is also going

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to be there. Doc is not going to leave Dallas.
There's enough on the table to warrant him to be
back and to get paid the money that he's going
to get paid. So I'm all on Jason Garrett. And
I know that Kellen Moore is the one who's calling
the plays, but you brought up the third one play,
and I know Zeke got dinged up an option play
on third and one, and like the like the like

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the fumble is the fumble is is adding fuel to
the fire because it wasn't a bad pitch he lost
it in the pile, but that play was going nowhere,
which then ended up causing the fumble. That to me
is more of an indictment on Jason Garrett what the
coaching staff did than anything or just too cute like
at that point, you we have better players in you.
We're gonna line up, We're gonna mush you. I think

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a couple of things were exposed. Everyone has talked about
this Dallas Cowboys offensive line and how dominant is supposed
to be. It didn't look dominant to that game. They
couldn't run the ball when everyone in the stadium knew
they were running. They couldn't push the Philadelphia Eagles off
the ball. And at some point we have to quit
talking about reputation and really, uh call people for what

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they are and what they earned. And the Dallas Cowboys
have not earned or warranted they kind of respect that
we've given them. When it comes to their talent. Their
offensive line isn't nearly what it was just two years ago. Yeah,
they the offensive lot that we all love was Tyrenn Smith,
Ronald Learry, Travis, Frederick Um, Zack Martin, and Doug Free Right,

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that was it. Free's gone, Larry's gone. Uh, you know,
Frederick's had his trouble as Terrence Smith's been banging. I mean, like, yeah,
it's not the same, not the same anymore. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Packers at Vikings Week six? Are
you excited for Packers Vikings tonight? Even though the string
I am the reason I'm excited. I don't know what

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to make it. A Green Bay Packers. I don't know
how good the Green Bay Packers are. Like, we're talking
about a Green Bay Packer team that may end up
with the number one overall seed in the NFC, and
I steal them uncertain about who they are, what they are,
how they need to play. So this is a big
game to me because Mike Zimmer's defense is going to
test the character in the makeup um and and grand

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scheme of things. Uh, yesterday's game in Philadelphia had much
more on the line, obviously for the Cowboys. Tonight's game.
Even if the Vikings win, Packers still in the driver's
seat to winning the NFC North. And I want to
wrap up with this, welcome back John Ramos. John was
under the weather for the last a week or so,
but he's back with us, back healthy today. It's so
good to see him through the glass. So we're happy
to have John back. Coming up next, we dive in

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to more of the tobacco yesterday in Philadelphia and actually
what it may mean for the winning team. He's Bucky Brooks.
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He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. Jordan Thomas spreading Christmas
cheer on The Doug Gottlieb Show, tweeting in well More,
Dallas Talk get ahead to the Christmas music station. Now
I blame Bucky Brooks for that. Now the I'm gonna
blame Bucky. You know, this is what we'll do. We'll
mask it. We won't even say that. It's Cowboys talk.
We'll just say it's NFC East Talk or Philadelphia Eagles Talk.

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Why now perfect segue as. Our next guest is our
Fox Sports Radio and series sex m NFL in Saturday.
You can also hear him on Inside the Birds podcast.
Adam Caplan joins us again here on Fox Sports Radio. Hello, Adam,
How are you guys gonna talk to you? And Bucky
and I were talking on Saturday about kind of this matchup,
the Eagle Cabley matchup and others, and certainly has been

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an interestring weekend that we just had here. And we've
got obviously one big one game tonight. Yeah, and I
want to start with the Panthers and Colts. No, I'm gidding,
that's not on my agenda my reacheet here. Should this
game have been a one possession game yesterday? I mean,
are we are we? Are we giving the Eagles enough
credit for what they did against Dallas? I mean, look,

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I was I was at that game last night, and
what's and I told people, I thought, we'll know who's
gonna win the game within the first ten minutes. And
the Eagles won the first ten minutes and they dominated.
Now you make a you make a good point here.
I don't think the game was as close to the
score would indicate. Um, quite frankly, they would have lost
by two scores if my standers decided to score and
not kneel down, which is the only thing to do.

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Give the rookie credit. Their Eagles really dominated, But I
would tell you the Cowboys, certainly their coaching staff helped
the Eagles. They did not really attack the Eagles very
weak group of corners, which have been much belind the season. Um,
they didn't really pressure Carson Wentz. I went to a
lot of credit. He played very well. He continues to improve.
But I thought over all the coaching job by that

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the Cowboys was not really up to standard, and so
many players to not show up. And then you know,
I'm in the locker room and I couldn't beliew what
a Mark Cooper said. They basically took him out of
the game, and he didn't He didn't seem to be
satisfied with the explanation. The word comes from the Cowboys
was that was just part of the rotation. But when
you're when you're behind, why in the world are you
pulling the Mark Cooper when you need to score? I
just don't understand that. You know, it's funny Adam you

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you talked so much about the Dallas Cowboys coach and
staff and in aptitude that was displayed. I kind of
want to focus on Philadelphia because I felt like that
was one of Doug Peterson's and Jim Schwarz's best game
when it came to just taking what they had and
finding a way to get it done. I don't believe
the Eagles can make us sustained run into playoffs if
they make it, but do you believe phil it if?

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Eagles fans probably feel better about the coaching staff and
what they have because it seemed like they may have
been cooling on Doug Peterson a little bit. Yeah, I
think Bucky living here, uh and and doing radio here,
I would say that it is factual. They people are
coming down certainly on sim Schwartz, not as much as
on Pierson, and a lot of it's been on Schwartz. Uh.

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You're not very aggressive plays at wide nine front, which
is an outdated front. Only two other teams using going
to the Footy Niners, but the Footy Niners played different
ski schem and back of their D line. But a
lot of people criticize it very passive front, not very aggressive.
But here's what he did. He disguised so well that

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he made Dak Prescott home on the ball line. I thought,
I thought Schwartz had one of his better games of
the season, where he's had kind of an up and
down season. And I've Digle's coaching staff. Clearly, I'll coach
the Cowboys. This is this is this one came down
to coaching, and I should have changed my pick. I
picked out because they had the better roster. But coaching
matters the National Football League. There's no better there's no

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better situation than when the Eagles and quite frankly, Doug
Peterson coach Bill Belichick in the Super Bowl. And again,
coaching is really really important. And Adam Kaplan joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the Doug Gotlin Show.
He's Buckey Brooks, I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug.
I would just say that yesterday that the actual maybe
two mistakes that Doug Peterson made ended up giving the
Cowboys points or at least opportunities with the fifty yard

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field goal attempts. Yeah, I was. I couldn't believe it, Like,
why would you do this year up eleven, punt the football,
pick them down and make them go the whole field again.
It would have taken any touchdown a two point conversion
out of field goal at that point, uh, for them
to tie you, and then obviously two touchdowns to beat you.
So I thought that was a mistake. Fifty five yard

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field goal by the way, Now, I'll tell you being there,
the additions were really good, but Jake Elliott is not.
Since he signed his contract extension, he's missed some kicks.
I was very surprised, quite frankly. And I'll tell you
Doug Peterson, unlike his mentor Andy Reid, is actually really
good at time management. And he's a tripic coach. But
the one area where you could criticize read is in
time management has not been a strong point. But for

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the most part, Peterson has been really good in that area. Yeah.
And just what other, sorry, Bucky. The other thing with
Doug Peterson and coaching, and Bucky and I talked about
the third and one play. I couldn't imagine what Doug
Peterson would have drawn up on that play. Yeah, And
I mean and and like that to me was indicative
of what we had yesterday to see what the Cowboys
did and what maybe would have happened if Doug Peterson

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was in that situation. So he's all you need to
know about the outcome of that game. Yeah, some of
the play calling. There was one other play, by the
way that I criticized. I had a little issue a
uh with Peterson, But overall, I still coach a very
good game. Now Dallas, I I don't look, they got
dominated time position. I know the fans wanted Zekiel Elliott
to get the football. I get it, but if you're
gonna be the Eagles, you don't run it. They have

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one of the top run defenses. You throw the football
and you keep throwing. But some of the calls, I mean,
it just were very odd and the rotations were odd.
I thought Kellen Moore, who by the way, has been
and I've talked to people at the Link. They really
think he's done a nice job. This is not one
of his better games. And this is to me where
the head coach, Jason Garrett's got to get more involved
and say, hey, wait a minute, I'm the coach here.

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We're keeping these certain players in there, We're gonna spread
them out. Philly's very weak at corner, and I just thought,
again the coaching was superior in Philly, no question about
it for the Eagles. Yeah, I agree. I want to
kind of turn our attention to the Pacific Northwest and
the reports about Marshawn Lynch potentially joining the Seattle Seahawks. One,

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what could Marshawn Lynch offer the Seahawks at this point?
He's an older player who hasn't played. And to how
desperate are the Seahawks if they need to dig in
the craze to pull out Marshawn Lynch. Yeah, they're desperate
because Buck either they're not gonna have their top three
running backs for the playoffs. And that's c J. Process
broke his arm, Chris Carson uh suffering a significant hip
injury which may or not, uh you need surgery, and

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then boys were shot. Penny talking to Seahawks. It breaks
so hard. He was really coming on and then unfortunately
towards a c L so he won't be back till
the summer. They've got Travis Hommer is a six hrum
pick who made the roster because he did well in training.
Came and they were hopeful that he would contribute at
some point the season. Now he's gonna have to. He'll
start this week's game, and with launch up told by

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source close to him that he has this history of
being when asked to get pretty good shape, very very quickly.
But the thing that he's gonna play this week, Remember,
he has not played a game, ironically, since they played
Seattle when he was with the Raiders last year in
the middle of October, so you're talking about fourteen months
since he's playing in an actual game. He's in practice

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since last December. And we've seen this with j G I,
who the Eagles signed um, who had not played for
a year because he was coming back from a cl reconstruction.
J G has not even playing for the Eagles right
now out, so you can't just expect a guy who
has who has been on ice to come in and
contribute right away. I just don't think it's realistic. They
do play Sunday night, that's not really gonna it's not
really gonna help the They're only gonna three days of

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practice plus a walk through. Again, he's gonna They're gonna
sign him along as long as he passes the physical.
I've expected this to happen, but I can't imagine he's
going to contribute very much this week. They may have
Jed L. Williams for that game as well. That's a
little number, big tent sty fan growing up. He was tremendous,

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But Kurt unfortunately had his career cut back, cut down,
my knee problem. Yeah, the Kingdom Turf can do it.
To Adam Kaplan joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
he's sucking Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer taking a step back
from the NFC knowing what we know. We've got an
NFC North shown tonight with the Vikings and Packers, both
teams in the playoffs, though legitimately, how many teams can

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make it the Super Bowl fifty four of what we
have with the I'll even put the Cowboys in there
because there's still a hole. But of the seven team
is in the six that will make the playoffs, how
many do you think actually have a legitimate shot to
get into Miami. So, guys, if we were going to
cement our picks right now for the playoffs, I would
say that in the NFC, I am going to surprise
some people just because I think they're so good on

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both sides of the football, and I don't know why
we don't talk about the Saints of being when the
NFL's best teams, we should be. I know people complaining
that they're not a great road team outdoors, Well, you
know what, there's some truth to that, But they were
great yesterday. They got off to a bad start. Then
there's rolled over the Titans, who really didn't need a game,
but nevertheless they tried it when they tried to win.
I think to me that right now they are the

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NFC's best team. I'm very concerned about the injuries that
the Niners have on both sides of the football, but
really in their secondary they're not Their defense is not
playing as well. I give them credit. That was a
heck of a game Saturday night. What a game that was,
but I am concerned. Though they might have wind up
having the number one seed, I'm still concerned. But get
having having them get a buy is going to be

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paramount for the first week, and they just gotta get healthier.
I would have thought see how it could compete for it,
but as we just outlined, they're down three running backs
and left tackled by the way Dwayne Brown won't play.
Dwayne Brown will not be ready for the first week
he had, he had a miniscus trim. That's going to
be two to three, three weeks, that sort of recovery.
Then in the NFC a f C, Baltimore is my team.

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I mean, I love what they're doing. I'm a little
bit concerned about their defense. They're not They're not dominant enough.
But the team taper sleeping on. It was my tech
to make the Super Bowl before the season started. The
Kansas City Chiefs have turned around their defense that I'm
still gonna go with. Can't see it over the Baltimore
right now. To make the super Bowl, Well that is
a bit of a surprise, but that defense. Yeah. And

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the other reason I bring it up is because I
thought that we had a wide range in the NFC,
but I'm not sure that we do. And I think
it's more so in the a f C. Just to
what Adam was talking about, we you know, we we
still don't know. Bucky's said it himself. To take his words,
we necessarily don't know about Green Bay. Minnesota's a little
thing you just mentioned. At one point of thought, Man,
those NFC divisional playoffs are gonna be amazed. Now I'm

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thinking two teams out of that conference. Maybe you have
a shot in your point about the Saints as well, takes.
That's why I brought it up. Yeah, it's a It's
an interesting phenomenon real quick, Adam. Uh, the Patriots seem
to kind of rediscover their playoff identity. Uh. Tom Brady
played well, was efficient, running game came on like game Busters.
Do you believe this is the only way they can

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play in the postseason to enhance their chances of winning
another title. Yeah, that's funny, Bucky. They've been trying to
run it better with with with Rex Burker now is
a factor that he's gone over a couple of injuries,
and they're so bad at receiver other than Edelman. I mean,
they just don't have should have the talent. Not having
Gronka is absolutely been a major issue for this football team.

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I've talked to teams that played them and said, look,
they don't fear anyone anymore. Gron was the first guy
they're gonna stop Edelman. They know it's gonna get his catches.
But I just don't think they're gonna be I don't
think they score enough. I never want to underestimate Brady,
especially Belichick I just don't think they have enough firepower
and their defense has to play shutdown. They were not
Buffalo Buffalo. I mean they only scored seven team, but

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I'll tell you what, they've got some points on the
field and Josh Allen continues to miss throws that he's
got a hit. He definitely has approved this season. Buffalo
is gonna be that team, folks. It's going to be
in the rise of terrific. On defense, They're very well coached.
They're gonna get a couple of good receivers next year.
Next year, and I'll tell you what, they might wind
up being a super Bowl contender over the next couple
of years. He's Adam Kaplan NFL in center here on

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(23:46):
Bucky Uh not as excited about the holiday season. Why
not Dwayne Brown's out for the Seahawks. For the Seahawks
now the San Francisco forty Niners coming to town, I
mean it right now is over. Despite the Marshawn Lynch

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possible reunion. It is. So you saw what happened yesterday
against the Arizona Cardinals. That second, wait a second, that
I think we went the last four or five times
up there Arizona? Who went three or four? Yeah, when
when Bruce arians was the head coach, or when uh,

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you had some offensive firepower. They couldn't stop Brent Hunley
on a late drive. They couldn't keep Chandler Jones in
the defense out of Russell Wilson's face. They had no
other options. So when I bring up the point about
to Adam Kaplan about who's realistic in the NFC, I
thought that the Seahawks with Chris Carson, with a with
a healthy offensive line, had an opportunity in Jadavian Clowney

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sounds like he's gonna play on Sunday night returning from
a core muscle injury. With all of that happening, with
all of those pieces, they could go anywhere and when.
But without Carson, without Penny, even if Marshawn Lynch is
in somewhat respectable shape. It's not like it would have
been with those guys there and now without Dwayne Brown.

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It's the offensive line that Seahawks fans have loathed about
for years and years and years. And that's that's the issue.
Is now you've taken You've opened the door for the
forty Niners and Saints to really grab the lead. You've
opened the door for the Packers had even the vikings.
But the Seahawks playoff hopes UH to me now non
existent to you advance to Miami because of what is transpired.

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Whether they're certainly the odds are longer. When you lose
your top three running backs, that that doesn't help you
lose your left how called Dwayne Brown, who is a
Pro Bowl caliber player, a guy who has solidified that
left side to blind side uh for Russell Wilson since
he arrived from Houston. However, I will say this someone
to go out on a limb. There's a path to
victory for every team in the Seattle. Seahawks are very

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comfortable playing in these tight scoring games, and so for
them to win going forward, Peak Carre has to stand
up in front of room. He has to talk to
the defense, a defense, we need you nail more than ever.
Here's how many points we can allow and still win,
and try and get their defense to play to a
seventeen point clip. If they do that, can get it done.

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The being will still have enough talent to get twenty
to twenty four points. Every NFL team deals with injuries,
so that and it sounds very cliche. No one's gonna
feel bad for the Seattle Seahawks, so I'm not putting
it on them. And when you lose three running backs,
that's hard to that's hard to recover from. But there's
also the point of this is a team that hasn't

(26:41):
got after the quarterback this year. You made an off
season signing of Zigianza, who hasn't worked out, the Jadevian
Clowney trade, the dominant performance that he had against the
forty Niners, who's in a prime time performance. I thought
he's been really good against the run. He's not maybe
not gonna be there to get sacks. He's been okay.
Their first round pick L J. Collier played five snaps yesterday,

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but five like so, when you start to look at
the overall makeup, of them. It actually ends up going
back to Russell Wilson, and I'll put it on Chris
Carson shoulders as well for why this team has success.
And when you take away of that, you're down to
your what third string tight end Jacob Hollister has been
carrying everything. They are just so depleted that there's no
way that they're a threat anymore in the NFC. Yes,

(27:25):
unfortunate debt has kind of happened like that, but I
still give them your past. I would love to see
that this path must be just all of the arm
and legs of Russell Wilson. I mean, look, they can
play good, because they haven't played well, but they can.
The best way to play great defense to play with
your offense, meaning they keep the ball away from the opponent,
they drain it down, they kick field goals uh and

(27:46):
then when they kick it far enow they keep them
inside the twenty and then they eventually win the four
the four down war. If they do that, that is
how they have to win. They have to think about scoring.
If we can get a twenty four points? The speak
what's positive from Marshawn Lynch? What what what do you say? Like?
This was I'm glad we signed him for weeks seventeen.

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What is positive if you're the Seahawks and you bring
in the veteran running back Marshawn Lynch is not brought
in with week seventeen in mind. Marshawn Lynch was brought
in with the playoffs in mind. If they get him
a little smattering of some playing time against the forty
nine is to get them ready to play in the
divisional round. The Seattle Seahawks are loaded. They're loaded on defense,

(28:32):
on offense, they're not is they're not as great, But
Marshawn you want to give him every opportunity. It's kind
of getting goal this is this is gonna be amazing
this team that was. This is also a reason, and
this should be noted with the Ravens sitting everybody in
week seventeen because they have everything wrapped up realistically for
the Seahawks next week's game against the forty niners in

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Week seventeen had everything on the line. But you play
everybody in weeks six team because you still had home
field advantage as a possibility, you still had a first
round by they couldn't afford. But but would you look
at the stakes of what is up now for next week.
You maybe could have made an argument and I think
there's a reason why certain guys were held out yesterday

(29:17):
against Arizona. But Chris Carson ends up getting hurt. C
j Process getting hurt is not breaking news. It's been
his entire career, so you you knew it was a
matter of time with that one is is you're gonna
have jeez. Maybe when you look at what could have
been and like what yesterday would have been, maybe you're
kicking yourself a little. Oh. Absolutely, you're kicking yourself, like
you don't I mean to lose Chris Carson because of

(29:39):
an injury, because yesterday's game in the grand scheming things.
Now that you've lost him, it's changed. It's really altered
your playoff ups instead of just being like, well, maybe
we can get a first round by it certainly has
changed it because you don't have an established running back
who can command a double team, which gives the opportunity
you pushed about on the field on one on once. Yeah,

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(31:04):
see what game do we got today? Roma de Little Deal? Yeah,
so you get to say if it's a big deal,
little deal, or no deal, bucking on all these different scenarios. Okay,
here we go, starting with this. According to The Athletic,
during free agency over the summer, Kawhi Leonard's uncle, uncle Dennis,
was asking teams for part ownership, a private plan with

(31:27):
unlimited access, a home, and endorsement money from the team
he signed with. Is this a big deal, a little
deal or no deal. I'm gonna say it's a no
deal because there was no deal when he asked for
these demands. I mean, if it's not even allowed, it's
just it's absurd. It's it's really what do you think

(31:49):
you think it's good business? I mean I think I
think it could be good business. Is almost like like,
look to tell him that you are. I'm sure when
you flyp places they put you in first class. He's
just asking for like private ownership of the team, partial
ownership of the team, minority ownership within the Lakers. But

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as Isaac said, it's not even allowed. So that's that's
it's a no deal for me. It's like half of
my Christmas list. It's probably just a little deal. Like
a little deal. It's like like having to Dan buy
your show, like realistic ownership, ownership matters. Alright, Isaac, what

(32:31):
have we got next? Alright? Terrell Owens was left off
the NFL's all time top one hundred team. Is that
a big deal, a little deal or no deal? By
the way, you both can have ownership in the Dan
Buyer Show if you'd want, even if if the Nasdaq
is up, it may not get you much and access
to one of those private scooters outside the building. I

(32:55):
actually listed the Dan Buyer Show on the New Stock
Exchange and my code was s u X, So I'm like,
what's up with that? You know, like that that's not
that's not cool at all. Big deal, little dealer, no deal.
That Teo got left the left off the all time
this is a big deal. This is ridiculous that Teo
wasn't included. If you put Randy Moss on there too,

(33:17):
real Owens has to go look at their numbers. Their
numbers are dark near identical. Uh. The fact that we
don't like Tara Lows Owens continues to lead us to
leave him off these I guess like these all star
teams are preventing us from recognizing him for his greatness.
It's a big deal for me. He should have been
on that team. What I thought was interesting because I've

(33:39):
I've watched every episode of these I I and I'm
not just saying that because Bucky Brooks is in NFL
and that, but I've I've watched every single one and
what surprised me the most was that. And it's no
disrespect to Marvin Harrison. I can understand when a guy
from the nineteen thirties or nineteen forties actually makes the
list because of what they did during their time. When

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Steve Largent left the NFL, he held all of the
records for the top records four receivers, So I understand
why Steve Largents on the list. To your point about
Randy Moss being on the list and tarall Owens being
having comparable numbers, yeah, that's a good point. Marvin Harrison
also made the list. And when you think of, you know,

(34:21):
the offense that Marvin Harrison played in, and you think
of where TiO ended up playing in at times not necessarily,
even when you think about things that Teo did not
at all, not at all, I think people have to
understand how great Ceo was. Like Teo was a dominant
player on on par with Randy Moss, if not superior
in some aspects. I just believe he can get to

(34:44):
short end of the stick because people think about the
off field antics or what they perceived him to be
as a teammate, and I don't think it's fair judging
about how he played and what he did on the field.
Jerry Rice went to Oakland and had really good years.
Teo moved Jerry Rice aside. I mean, look, he only
caught twenty balls on Jerry Rice deck. That's right. Yeah,

(35:06):
Dan by Day, I went an emmy, uh, Dan Buyer
Day comes up this year January January second, alright, alright, alright,
jonas ever used that one on yet? Giving you? Uh yeah,
that's a good one. Yeah, alright, Isaac, what else we
got January thirty second? Right by the way, right before

(35:28):
Isaac lohen crand alright. Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien
told reporters that he has no plans to rest any
of his players in Sunday's regular season finale against the Titans,
and we are playing to win. Is that a big deal,
a little deal or no deal. It's gonna go a
little deal in into my column. Yeah, I'm gonna give

(35:48):
you a big deal because you know what happened a
few years ago. The New England Patriots did this and
they played and I think Wes Welker toris a CEO
in Houston. Yeah, in Houston. And so if I'm the
used Texas, that would be smart because you're already a
little banged up. Your quarterback is dealing with a little
nagging ankle injury. I don't know if I would keep
my starts in there a long time. Do they hang

(36:10):
banners for the knee injury suffered at Old Reliance Stadium now?
Because there are there are enough that you can't have
like you're not having Super Bowls up there. You could
have room for the clowne like Clowne heard his knee
because the of the junk grass that they had in there.
I think it's a little deal for the simple fact

(36:32):
of this. I know that we saw last year the
Vikings go against the Bears. The Bears played the Vikings.
Uh played there, guys, even though Chicago was in Still,
the Texans do have a little bit to play for,
but they're kind of set where they are. I know
there could be a big risk but I'm gonna say
a little deal. By the way, let's hear it for
the creativity of Dan Buyer, that is one of the

(36:55):
most creative ideas of all time by championship banners, but
also banner to commemorate devastating injuries occurring. And I'm just
saying for you know, they don't have a lot to
a lot to recognize, a lot to support to put
up like a banner of the durant Achilles tendon in Toronto.
Completely separate topic, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna hijack here.

(37:16):
Who do you think is the most recognizable the the
one player that you could pick as the Houston Texans player,
the one guy who is it like if you have
Damon Carr. I think it's J. J. Watt. Yeah, yeah,
I do. And I knew he was here. I knew
he was gonna say Andre Johnson. But I really think

(37:38):
it's J. J. Watt. I know, but just for for
the impact. You know what, I shouldn't know you got
that badger switch. He wasn't on the golf team. Doesn't matter.
It wasn't on the game. This is game time. On

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the duck got leaps. All Andre Johnson did not make
the NFL's list of top one hundred on the all
time Top one hundred, but that wasn't surprising. I was
surprised to see Marvin Harrison's name other though, I really was.
I mean, I know because when you've seen Paid Manning,
everyone who has playing with him to put up big numbers.
No disrespect to Morvin Harrison different, no, absolutely, and the

(38:21):
quarterbacks the final installments something that I'm going to be
very interested to see. I mean, I think that you
could have ten from you know, from on now, but
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(39:03):
and Cowboys won by Philadelphia. How about Saturday in the
National Football League, a triple header of exciting football, of
three really good games, games that meant a lot, and uh,
you know, the NFL does a lot of things. They
kind of had the flex schedule for that Saturday. They

(39:25):
picked the three right games to play because it was
good football after good football after good football. Yeah. Look,
he was a great Saturday. I mean every game was exciting.
The uh the back and forth in the Tampa Bay
Buck in the Houston Texas game with all the turnovers,
was that was more like a Turkey Bowl game. That
was like you and I and the crew out there
playing uh sam a lot and then seeing the Patriots

(39:45):
and the Bills that was a little more disciplined detail
or it kind of felt like a playoff game. And
then the forty nine is in the Rams was also
a terrific game to watch. Wasn't the cleanest game, but
was it going to watch? Saturday morning? I turned the
TV on at ten o three and I already missed
a PI six. It was seven nothing on the screen
out a sec three. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the Jamie

(40:07):
Smiths next period. What is going on here? And I
will say this, I think the forty Niners did a
favor for the rest of the NFL in taking the
Rams out of the playoff picture. I know that the
Rams team has been jackal and hide, but when it
comes to the playoffs and you don't know what you're
gonna get, they were still the champs, so there was

(40:30):
that to it. But I think that and now, mind you, Minnesota,
if they would have beaten Green Bay, if the Rams
would have one, Minnesota could have wrapped up a spot
by winning tonight. But the point being, I think the
forty Niners did uh someone in the NFC some favors,
because yeah, I will say this. However, I would say,
don't sleep on the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota Vikings are
the team type of team that can make a sustained run.

(40:53):
If Kirk Cousins is efficient with the football and if
Dalvin Cook is able to come back, they can run it.
They play good defense in their quarterback is just good
enough to knock you off. Be careful about the Minnesota Mike.
You have some butts, candy and nuts. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Dan Buyer. The Cleveland Bronze yesterday fell to the
Baltimore Ravens in Cleveland. Brown's fashion fifteen ended up being

(41:16):
the final score. And I'm laughing because it's over and
over again. I told you from Salami yesterday when we
were sitting in doing our Fox Sports Red Zone radio
show that my tank wasn't on e when talking about
the Cleveland Bronze, but the fuel light was on. The
fuel light was on. Of like, I am really tired.
I am tired. You know who else? I think it's

(41:38):
tired Bronze quarterback Baker Mayfield. That's not my decision to make.
So whatever happens happens moving forward, and I know how
I'm gonna handle it, you know, getting whatever Receiving Corps
tight ends we have together in the off season, making
sure we're on the same page where we hit the
ground running in the spring, kind of like I hit
on earlier in the week, where there's there's no room
to be made up in income training camp. So it's

(41:58):
it's a process. But you know, I'm looking forward to
this group and seeing what we put together and how
we work. I'm not going to pick on Baker Mayfield
for the comments. I don't think it should. I don't
think you should wait to spring, like February four should
be the time. Hey, guys, you know what, let's start
to do this. Let's get together, let's start to work.
You're gonna have a whole month off anyway, so let's

(42:19):
get the guys in a separate spot. Let's work on
this right now. If you're the quarterback, that's what you do, right. No,
you don't do that. You just say, hey, well, we'll
convene when doing it in February. Hey, I'll tell you
what I tell people I would to make it look good.
You can tell people all that, but not like so well,
I think there's a couple of things that came out
of the Baker thing. I wish I heard the question

(42:41):
because it seemed like he didn't get a strong endorsement
of Fraid of Kitchen is just gonna between the lot.
I think that the question was should Bucky Brooks continue
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. I think that was and
then he said that's decision, So no, that was the
that was no. He I think I don't know the
phrasing of the egg, so it seems like he wasn't.

(43:02):
That wasn't a strong endorsement of Freddy Kitchens. The second
thing he talked about training camp is not the time
to make up and catch up. I think that was
a direct shot towards Odell Beckham Jr. Who missed all
of the offseason workouts doing his own thing out here
in l A. And maybe Baker is saying that the
timing and stuff was off and they never got into
the rhythm that you would expect them to have, big

(43:25):
time marquee receiver, franchise quarterback coming off a strong Ricky campaign.
It didn't. It didn't work, And so look, I understand
where Baker is going, but I would say Baker needs
to do this too, Like Baker needs to do a
little self inspection and reflection and make sure that he
is doing all the things the right way to be
a franchise quarterback. We saw him in all the commercials

(43:46):
and all that, which is fine, But if he's going
to be the leader of this team and lead the
way that everyone expects him to lead as the number
one overall pick, he didn't have to steal a page
from Drew Brees book. You saw the little video that
Reggie ash, You put up there Drew Brees doing the
lonely work in the facility getting ready. That's what it
takes to be a franchise quarterback. Franchise quarterback in is

(44:09):
during six or five days after year seven, every waking
moment has to be spent on how can I be
the best franchise quarterback? And we just gotta make sure
that Baker Mayfield shows excellent kind of commitment. The Drew
Brees situation resonates because he's forty years old as well.
He's doing stuff at forty that you would think through

(44:30):
his reps that he's gotten in leading the NFL in
the top passing categories for the for the history of
the league, that he's still doing that. That's where it resonates.
You know, it resonates because reps matter, like it's the
preparation part of and I think that's the thing. So
what happens over your your career. Early in your career,

(44:50):
your talent outweighs your experience. So you're winning on your talent,
your athleticism, the skills that you have, the skills that
you require. As you get older, the physical tools begin
to diminish, but the knowledge is what allows you to
play faster, to play uh better than younger guys that
are faster than you in those things. And I think

(45:11):
for Baker Mayfield, the quicker, that he can get up
to par with the mental part of it, the preparation
part of it. Whatever that weekly routine is at playing quarterback,
the better it will be. And and getting your guys
together and working with them and being on the same page.
The thing that you want to do offensively is when
we get together for these team sessions O t a s.

(45:32):
Mini camps, we want to hit the ground running. We
don't want to do developmental stuff. We want to start
refining the execution part of what we're doing. So we
don't have time to learn to playbooking camp. We want
to master the playbook and camp. We're sixteen weeks into
the season, fifteen games that I still don't know the
identity of the Browns offense that falls the fredation and

(45:53):
it's tough. It's tough being asked to do what he's
doing the head coach and the offensive coordinator is tough
because you're you're juggling a bunch of different things, calling play,
sending the game play and play called as a coordinator
sending the vision for the team and creating the culture.
As a head coach a lot to manage. And I
think he'll be better if he gets the second season.
He'll be better the second year having gone through it

(46:15):
this year. He's not going to get a second chance.
And here's why, Bucky, because this was this was Freddie
Kitchens job. Because you needed the arrow to trend upwards.
There was no foundation where you could look at Freddie
Kitchens and say he can navigate through this downtime. You know,
he probably shouldn't have been given the head coaching job

(46:37):
based on credentials. Truly, all you had to do is
all you had to do was even if you even
if you plateaued, there's there's still a question, but there
was a drop, there was a dip, and as you
said to you to your point of how you know
with the responsibilities. So now what are you gonna do
If it wasn't the workload and Freddie Kitchens ends up

(47:00):
taking some of his workload, gives it to other assistance,
but you still have the same problem, then it's obviously
Freddie Kitchens problem. My point of why Freddie Kitchens is
gonna be back is I don't know, if the Browns
have enough time to worry about this stuff, you're gonna
keep Freddie Kitchens around. Okay, let's just say for another
year and things don't work out and Baker Mayfield is

(47:20):
at the level that he is right now. Now you've
got a decision with Baker Mayfield as you're starting quarterback.
Do we pick up a fifth year option on Baker
Mayfield because it will be after his third year you
bring in a new head coach, and a new head
coach is gonna come in and let's just say, maybe
him and Baker Mayfield don't match, and you want to
figure out a new path. Like the time is now
for how the team sets up and how the team's

(47:40):
quarterback situation sets up. You could have had Bruce Arians.
By the way, this is my whole thing. Bruce Arians
last year had set on multiple occasions that if there
was one job he would return to football. Four find
out it's not the case. But it was the Cleveland
Brown's job. That was the job that he was going
to turn around, or he that he would take to
return to football. He's went to Tampa. They've turned things

(48:01):
around there. Despite Jamie's still throwing the interceptions. They could
have had an opportunity to hire Bruce Arians to come
into Cleveland, which is exactly the type of coach that
everybody thinks that they should have now to maximize what
they have, and they failed to do it. Whether it
be Mike McCarthy, whether it be Urban Meyer, whether it
be whoever. I just don't think that Freddy Kitchens has
enough cache doesn't have enough foundation to continue as the

(48:23):
head coach after one year, considering how last year did
not carry over in the nineteen That's my biggest issue. Jimmy,
Jimmy hasn't must have some of the damn buyer money
because because if if if he, if he does is
if he can's Freddy Kitchens, you now have three coaching
staffs on the books, And I don't know about you,
but I don't know if I want to pay three difficulty,

(48:46):
But you know you have big money, like like you
have big money. So I think they may be forced
to kind of give him another opportunity until they can
get the huge acts and stuff off the books and
all that. Guess a lot of money to spend out
on coaches that aren't coaching for you. However, I did
here one thing Ron Rivera coming over to the Cleveland Browns.

(49:09):
If Ron Rivera came to the Browns, one thing that
he could do is that defensive staff can stand in place.
Because Steve Wilkes was his decordinator in Carolina. Maybe that
would be some of the continuity that you want. And
then you have a grown up in the room to
handle the big personalities of Baker Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham Jr.
Provided he is able to bring an offensive coordinator. Maybe

(49:31):
that's a little food for thought for you. I don't
know how it is going to work with the receivers
that they have. Are you talking about because Nick Chub
needs the football. Yeah, so you get in the ball.
You know, you can figure out ways. But Jarvis Landry,
you have David and Joku. You're not. He doesn't get

(49:52):
a seated the table. David and Joku, David and Joeku
doesn't get a seated the table. Jarvis Landry, Odebeckham Jr.
David and Joeku gets to graphs. What about cream Hunt? Yeah?
I like both of those. Yeah, Yeah, you gotta feed.
There's not enough food to go around to feed all
of those. So there's Floyd enough. You remember the San
Francisco for nine of the late eighties. Do you remember

(50:13):
who owned those teams? Yeah, John Taylor, Yeah what, Roger Craig.
Roger Craig. Tom Rathman had a quarterback who everyone like,
what what? Tom Rathman and Kareem Hunt are not the
same player and the same but he's a backup to
Nick job So this was the question. This was the
question that Baker Mayfield was asked. Oh and and the

(50:34):
role of the reporter will be played by our executive
producer Ryan Music Ryan the stages yours. He was asked
if the Browns would be in a better spot keeping
status quo with all of the coaches in place to
build progress going forward, or if changes need to be
made in order for them to try and grow going
into next season. And then that's where he said, that's

(50:57):
not my decision. M that's not a strong endorsement for
a guy who hand picked Freddy Kitchens. Like this sounds
like but not being in love with Freddy Kitchens anymore.
The that doesn't sound like that to you. Like endorsement.
This is what I find interesting. Baker has had no
troubles talking about everybody else and now no, I mean

(51:18):
Duke Johnson, Odell Beckham Jr. Miles Garrett and now and
asked about Freddy Kitchens. I don't know, like he's had
no problem mentioning those Miles Garret shouldn't have done that,
correct answer, Duke Johnson should want to be here. Probably
not the best way to do it. Uh, you know
O'Dell's situation of the hip injury in the trainer, and
I probably should have. But when it comes to Freddy Kitchens,

(51:40):
it's not my decision. The non answer says a whole bunch. Yeah,
that's what you got. That's that's who everyone is. I
did see my guy, you get him. This is a
fantasy draft. Oh like you probably were running around playing
the air guitar when he was scored touchdowns and audited
all the silly stuff that he was doing. No, No,

(52:00):
that that is not no, not at all, No, not
at all. I don't know. I don't dislike Baker Mayfield.
I will say this, they're they're run with Freddie Kitchens.
Sure helps when you have nothing to lose, like the head,
everything they did was gravy, so anything that was good
was thought of. Wow, this isn't happen in Cleveland. In
two or three years, it may have been good. Yeah. Yeah,

(52:24):
they're like skittles, you know, like you love skittles, You
love to have skittles, but you can't survive just eating skittles.
You can't know. No good point and very very timely.
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
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at Yahoo swab Hey, Frank, Marry Christmas, How are you hey?
What's going on? Let's let's stove into Packers Vikings. Who

(53:26):
needs it more? Tonight's when the team's play in good
old Minneapolis. You know it's it's an interesting game because
a lot is on the line, but not like, not
as much as online as we think it is. The
Packers are going to beat the Lions win the division.
Un Let's you know, the Lions have a new coach
next week. I don't think that Patricia is really doing

(53:48):
much so, but the Packer is still gonna win the
division of Vikings are still gonna have to go on
the road week one. But yet this feels like one
of those games that the Vikings are really gonna want
to show out, play well and keep that hope alive
that the Lions could somehow play well for the first
time in two seasons. And it's it's gonna be an
interesting game that way. And I just think, honestly, I

(54:09):
think the Vikings are the better team. I think the
Vikings are They're just a more balanced there team than
the Packers. They do more things. Well, but the Packers,
you know, they're in the driver's seat here. Doesn't matter
too much if they dropped this game, although I say
they love to clinch tonight. But either way, I assume
they're's gonna roll over the lives next week. Uh. And

(54:29):
thinking about this game because you're talking about the Vikings
appearing to be the better team. The biggest question it
always hangs over the Vikings. Uh. Senters around the quarterback
Kirk Cousins in his maybe inability to play well in
prime time games? Do you think this is the week
he finally gets passed at? How do I mean? I
think that a lot goes into and look like theimmer
talked about this might fully agree with that quarterbacks aren't

(54:53):
don't have individual records. I think that it's funny that
we think about finally in baseball the pictures individual records
are kind of dumb, but we've doubled down on it
in the NFL, like it doesn't well when people talk about, oh,
Kirk Cousins the own eight money and a foot all games,
he's not play tennis against the other team's quarterback. They
fifty two other things on that team and make never
talked about that. He said, you know, it's that's all

(55:15):
Kirk's fault. It's it's not all his you know, his
credit wing we win either. It is a team game.
The beauty of the NFL, and I think you guys
cree the blauty of the NFL is what a team
game it is. You need everybody has to say hege
g Yes, quarterbacks the most important, but it's not the
only position on the field. And and just say, well,
Kirk Cousins, oh and eight. I guess he hasn't played

(55:36):
great against top competition under the bright lights. But there's
more to it than than that. There's more nuanced than that.
I think he's had a great year. If you look statistically,
you know there's something. Packers fans always get upset when
I mentioned it, but it's true. Kirk Cousins has been
a better quarterback Aaron Rodgers this year. That that. You
can tell me any stats you want to look at,
Go go look up every stat there is and I

(55:56):
will tell you if the stats will tell you Kirk
Cousins has better than Aaron Rodgers. Now we can make
excuses insane. Well, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have anybody but Davante
Adams and the coach ry not be great for him.
We don't know really right now. But Kirk Cousins has
had a great season. He has, honestly Ben in the NFL,
He's been there nearon Rodgers, and I think it's a

(56:17):
vising glues tonight. It's not necessarily going to be because
of Kirk Cousins. Yeah, to your point, I think we
look at the Packers and say, oh my gosh, anything
can happen with them as long as you have Aaron
Rodgers in the playoffs. And then you're like, I don't
know what could happen with the Vikings with Kirk Cousins.
I I have no idea. Frank Swab joining us here
on Fox Sports already. By the way, Frank just gave
me the idea that we need to add quality wins
or quality starts excuse me to to NFL stats, and

(56:40):
that's how you're going to be able to to judge quarterbacks.
What's your takeaway from what the Cowboys put out yesterday
against Philadelphia? Oh my goodness, I mean I think that
how how long we have because there's so complex with
the Cowboys issues right now. I think obviously the coach day.
We all know the coach is gone. It's done, this

(57:03):
is not happening. Yeah, whatever, Urban Meyers to be coaching
the next year. I but I think that I think
a big takeaway from me, and I wrote about this
this morning. I think that that was a Marie Cooper's
I'm not very good game. He's cool, and I shouldn't
say he's not very He's not. He's not an elite guy.
This is not Michael Thomas, this is not Tyreek Hill,
this is not even O b J when he's right.

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This is a guy who's a probably good number two.
He has had four games this year where he's had
less than twenty four yards receiving on fourth thouand yesterday
the biggest play their season, literally their seasons on the line,
the Vision titles on the line, and they have Tavon
Austin and they gave instead of Barrie Cooper like it's
Michael Thomas sitting out a fourth pound of the Saints. No,
of course not. But I just think that that the

(57:46):
main takeaway I have is eight Cowboys are are absolutely
horribly disappointing a here because they have way more talent
than that. They lost to an Eagles team that that
hadn't done anything in weeks. But a big takeaway from
me is the Cowboys can't pay Amari Cooper, and I
see he's asking for number tunus ever money and we
know although he's not I I don't think that they
can even think about paying him. He is not a

(58:06):
number one, he's not reliable. They need to move on
from him. I think that. And even you know, we
still now have questions about Dak and not leading a touchdown.
He gets a really mediocre Eagles team in a must
win game, and every question to come along with what
the Cowboys put out there yesterday is all valid. It
is just right now a nightmare for them. And yet

(58:27):
I still can't trust me hegoes to go along the
road and beat the Giants. How messed up is this
that the Cowboys could still find a way to back
into this thing. Yeah, that's a very very interesting thing.
I do want to kind of touch on the Eagles
because you talk about you don't know if you can
trust him, Uh, what's your trust level in Carson Wentz
after seeing him the last three games, Uh played better

(58:47):
in the fourth quarter and make some plays and kind
of put his team on his back when he needed to. Yeah,
And I said, I've always done a Carson Wentz fan,
So I I just like his style of play. I
like how he is game. I just still I probably
a little more forgiving of him than I should be.
But I look, and the number one the season right
now is breg Ward, who was a hacker a quarterback
at Houston. But I'm not sure he should be anybody's

(59:08):
number one wide out in the NFL right now. And
you know they at the tight ends, but Z Carson
out there playing with the token rid. I kind of
just give Carson to pass because you know, eggl are
didn't work out, and the Shawn Jackson got hurt and
Alston Jeffrey got hurt, and I just I just he's
been put behind the ball a lot now, correct quarterback
getting paid like he is to be able to overcome

(59:29):
all that's kind of stuff, but he's really been put
in a tough spot. I think overall, though, Look the
Eagles there were last two weeks they lost to the Dolphins,
they needed over time at home against the Giants to win.
They barely beat the Redskins. I don't know that that
we could trust them to go on the road next
we can win the East. I just it's a weird

(59:50):
the the two thousand nineteen NMC East. It's it's just
you just feel like there's one more week where we're
just completely pounting them on Monday, and it would be
so funny, funny both teams along stime. It's just to
spend ridiculously battling. It would be fitting if the Cowboys
somehow ended up winning the division. That would that would
be the perfect fitting to to that division. My last

(01:00:11):
one for you, Frank is Frank swab Jones is here
on the Doug ot Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Dan Buyer. He's Bucky Brooks sitting in for Doug today.
What impact do you think Marshawn Lynch will have, if any,
if he signs with the Seahawks and the next day
or so, I don't know, but I'm already I'm here
for it. This is one of the great stories. If
I'm I am so on board with the bringing in

(01:00:33):
Marshawn for this game, it would it was already got
a fantastic game. Honestly, this is just a great Lee seventeen.
So then I came, what do you add Marshawn Lynch. True,
it's on Twitter like he was like doing tequila shots
of Raiders fans last week in the parking lot, Like
for him to just come, it's suit up. I don't.
I can't imagine he's gonna play well. I can't imagine

(01:00:55):
a Marshall Lynch just then, like I'm going to stay
at the top shape just a case like I know,
but it's such a fun story. He's such a fun player,
and I guess if there's any running backs that could
just a whole lot of bed in week seven and
it'd give you a decent game. Maybe it don't mar Shawn,
because he's one of the toughest dudes I've ever seen
playing that position. I'm here for it, though. I have
just had so much intrigue and fun and interest. I

(01:01:17):
want this to happen so bad. No matter how he plays,
it's going to be just add a great layer to
that game. He's got to play Sundays. He's got like
there's like that. We have our hope stuff that't Thesie C. J. Anderson.
We've seen the Robert Turbin story as well in Seattle

(01:01:37):
before Fine Frank got Twitter at yeahoo Schwab and read
him mind. Yeah who sports appreciated Frank, Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays.
We'll talk to you again. Yeah, no doubt, guys, he's
Bucky Brooks, I'm Dan Buyer. I mean, at least at
least the first carry that he would get in the game,
it would be crazy. I know we have the rest
of the game to play, but it would be it
would be absolutely nuts. Bucky is saying it's more of

(01:01:59):
a long term play for the short term, meaning it's
a playoff push for Mark. Look, you want to get
him ready, to get him, get him leather up this game,
that him kind of get some of the kinks out,
but then haven't ready for the playoff push, because that's
when I really really need. We're gonna get you lathered
up because we're putting you to the test here. Coming
up next it is The Doug Gottlieb Show. But first
we go to Isaac Lowan Krate, who's got the latest
of what's happening today. Hello Isaac, Hello Dan and Bucky.

(01:02:21):
Adam Schefter just reporting that the Carolina Panthers interviewed former
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy for their head
coaching job. Yesterday, Seahawks running back Chris Carson out for
this season with a broken hip. So earlier today, Pete
Carroll discussed the possibility the possibility of Marshawn Lynch coming
out of retirement to return to the Seahawks. Here was

(01:02:43):
Pete Carroll on radio station k i r O in Seattle.
You'll be flying in here this morning, and uh, we're
gonna give him a really good chance to come back
to play for us. And I'm fired up for it,
you know. And he's got a uh you gotta get
to some some hoops, you gotta jumped through. Here's physical
and stuff like that. But he's been working really hard.
Uh he's really excited about the chance to do something

(01:03:04):
help it out. And uh, I think it's freaking great.
You know, if if he can get out there and
toe the ball force the circumstances rolled just at this time,
and uh, he could have four or five games left
and maybe that's what we need. Ravens head coach John
Harbaugh is sitting out Lamar Jackson, mark Ingram and Earl
Thomas for the regular season finale Sunday against the Steelers,
who are expected to hold out their starting quarterback Mason

(01:03:26):
Rudolph due to a left shoulder injury. NBA Sam Amack
of The Athletic reports that during Kawhi Leonards free agency
this summer, his uncle Dennis Robertson asked officials from the
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(01:03:47):
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amazing as well when it comes to the NFL, and
and maybe a football historian like Bucky Brooks knows this
and maybe you two as well, Isaac. But so yesterday
was the first day that the the first time that

(01:04:28):
the Ravens clinched home field advantage throughout the a f
C playoffs. It's also the first time that any team
in Baltimore, we'll have home field advantage through the a
f C playoffs. And this was something that I learned
just this football year, but did not realize that home
field advantage in the conference title games was not awarded
until the mid nineteen seventies. So the seventy two Dolphins

(01:04:51):
actually had to go on the road for the a
f C championship game. What were they based it on?
It was like an alternating thing like every other year.
I don't know. I was they had two divisions and
so that one division would have the other. But so
the Dolphins in that unbeaten season had to go to
Pittsburgh to play the a f C Championship game before
going and playing the Redskins in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
so how about that? Yeah? Yeah, it is totally like

(01:05:14):
I thought to myself, I was thinking, I was, I
was watching a piece and I'm like, wait a second,
why are they in Pittsburgh celebrating? You know, like going
to the Super Bowl, going through their run. But yeah,
they had to play, they had to play the road game.
There's your little bit of knowledge you can use at
holiday parties. That's my gift to you all, Bucky. I
like to present to you with with multiple gifts because

(01:05:36):
today today could be the final day that we actually
play Brooks and Done. Okay, the final time. This may
be our last time together in twenty nineteen, but this
could be the final time we play Brooks and Done.
So I want to maybe present some other ideas to
you on possible news segments. If you don't know what
Brooks and Done is, it's a segment we only do

(01:05:56):
when Bucky Brooks is in the chair next to me,
and we give Bucky a variety of topics and he
tells us if a team is done or if a
player is done. We're gonna do that in a little bit,
but I want to I want to give you some
some prospects of new games that we could maybe play in.
So here's option number one. Okay, this is uh. The

(01:06:18):
game is called Hills Street Blues, where you just tell
us stories about stuff that happened in Chapel Hill or
at Granada Hills where you are the head coach. Hey,
you know, like you could you gonna get out a
sixteen year old kid for not playing well in a

(01:06:39):
game on Hill Street Blues. I like, I like look,
I like I like the name of the song. I
like the theme music. I just don't like the premise
of the song. So so, okay, premise of the game.
So so what we got? What's next? Okay, so you
don't like that? Okay, here's the number. Here's option number two.
Are you ready for this one? You know this song?
Do you know this one? Scott? Yeah? Instead of shout,

(01:07:00):
it's scout because you are a scout where we can
talk about prospects and this is you can talk about
don't alright already everybody at the same time. It's coming up, Scout, Scot.
I think this reminds me of high school. This could

(01:07:21):
be an opportunity for you leading up to the draft.
You're like, I like these three guys that I've scouted
for the NFL. Like that? Okay, you just sitting around
the house and just come up with different game shows.
How about how about option number three? Do you like
this one? You're like, what is this? Right? This is

(01:07:42):
a segment called Bucky Badgers. Okay, so I'm Wisconsin is playing.
You can badger anybody on the staff about whatever. Like
John Ramos is here, you can just yell at John
for a couple of minutes, Bucky Badgers someone. So that's
where if you're gonna do Wisconsin, you gotta play jumper
round like this on Wisconsin thing. I think about cam around,

(01:08:04):
and I think about jump around. I think I think
right now of the choices is going, I'm gonna take
what's behind door number two scouts, So you're gonna take
Scouts over Bucky Badgers, Bucky Badgers someone or Hills Street Blues.
All right there it is, so at least maybe if
we get together in we can do scouts scouts because

(01:08:24):
that's like I like, I like your breathy tone to
they kind of the kind of Alright, let's put on
the boots for maybe the last time in twenty nineteen,
maybe forever. Let's get uh, let's get it alright. I
want to know we've got the playoff field pretty much
set in the NFC, a f C. There's a slight
hope for a couple of teams to maybe make it

(01:08:45):
in let's start in the National Football Conference. I've talked
about it before on this show. We just talked about it.
Are the Seahawks done? Are there hopes done? Are they
still alive to make Super Bowl fifty four? Man, I
would love for Marshawn delite and back. But they're done? Yeah?
I think they're Yeah, let's cut that up a little.

(01:09:07):
What about the what about the Philadelphia Eagles done? Okay?
Green Bay Packers? They have a shot at Super Bowl
fifty four? They have a shot, but I'm an lean
towards done. All right, Minnesota Vikings, I give him a chance. Yeah. Saints, Yeah,

(01:09:27):
Saints and the forty Niners they're also in the mix.
I only have two teams. By the way, I think
it's down to the Saints at forty that's what's going
to be the ch that's a f C. Kansas City Chiefs.
They have a shot at getting the Super Bowl fifty four. Yes,
because the defense defense is playing better. I know the
Ravens are the answers, so that we're gonna leave them

(01:09:50):
out of it. Answer, Well, they're gonna say, yes, they
aren't done. I know that for sure. But what about
the Houston Texans? Do they have a legit shot and
making it. They are done. No, no, no, no, all right,
the one we've all been waiting for, the New England Patriots.
Are they done or do they still have hope to
make it the Super Bowl fifty four? They're going to

(01:10:11):
super Bowl fifty four. They're they're going. You can't kill them.
It's over whatever Brady. This is Tom Brady. Tom Brady.
Tom Brady walks off the field at the end of
Super Bowl fifty four. He takes off his cleats and
he walks off as a champ. I give you, I
give you the guys. This stat that the Patriots too

(01:10:32):
have never played a super Bowl in Miami. Yeah, the
Miami is the most gonna be the most popular super
Bowl site that there is the Patriots have. It'll be
the eleventh time the Super bowls in South Florida. The
Patriots have been in eleven Super Bowls. And yeah, yeah,
if they go this, that is Tom Brady walking off
in his socks, leaving his cleats right on the quantity

(01:10:54):
end zone as they got. What about the champ the
Buffalo Bills. Do they have a chance to get the
Super Bowl? A chance? They got a chance. They make
it tough for everybody. What about the Tennessee Titans. Forget it, man,
forget it. They get finally because there is still hope alive.
The Silver and Black Raiders not a chance, all right,

(01:11:19):
not a chance. And the Steelers, no, they can't go
either duck and cover when it comes to Pittsburgh. There
it is possibly for the final time in twenty nineteen,
your edition of the One and Only Brooks and Dunne.
We got a live band in here today to play that.

(01:11:40):
So that was nice. That was very nice. They skipped
ahead five seconds. If you caught that at the anthem,
that's sure. That was the Rebex. Yeah, we're running out
of time, run out of time because that on Wisconsin
thing that you're at us Fucky Badger, Bucky Badgers. I
thought that was good. You just badge your people for stuff.

(01:12:02):
Dill Street Blues all the gossip. But there yeah, yeah,
so scouts, it ends up being he's Bucky Brooks. I'm
Dan Buyer. You just heard that Bucky thinks the Patriots
are going to win the Super Bowl again. Well, what
do I think find out? Coming up next year on Fox?
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(01:12:24):
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(01:13:10):
keen on watching the Patriots Bills game on Saturday and
talked about it today on a disputed on Fox Sports One.
Tom Brady was Tom Brady on Saturday. That was vintage
playoff Tom Brady forty two, going on stiff arming father
time and looking just like Tom Brady always looks about
this time of year. And yeah he was a play

(01:13:33):
faking magician on Play Action, but he also what you
having for a hundred and okay, well, he threw for
two seventy one on twenty six of thirty three. He
was deadly accurate. He was quick with the ball, decisive
with the ball, and threw it with velocity. That was

(01:13:53):
Tom Brady. That was Tom Brady. And it was the
highest output in a win for Tom Brady since they
beat the Giants in October. But I am not going
to go as far as Bucky Brooks is saying the
Patriots are going to the Super Bowl and as far
as Kip Bayless is saying that Tom Brady is back.
In fact, in just week sixteen, I like how the
Chiefs looked the Texans sure escape against the Buccaneers. I

(01:14:16):
think that they're a viable option to to maybe beat
a New England team again. I think the Bills actually
in a third opportunity to take out New England, would
have that opportunity to finally get over the hump and
win the game. This in addition to the fact that
the Patriots have to go through Baltimore if they want
to go back to Super Bowl fifty four, I just

(01:14:38):
don't see it. I don't see how one decent Saturday
in Week sixteen against the division rival puts you back
atop the super Bowl rush. I don't see the Patriots
making just because it's easy for them. Right. So here's
what the Patriots have figured out and have mastered. Because
they always have either the first of the second seed.
They only need to play two games to get into

(01:15:00):
of the playoffs, so typically to the Super Bowl, to
the Super Bowl, and so they win the first one
then in the championship game in a one game scenario.
How can you bet against Bill Belichick and Tom Brady
when it's one and done. We've seen it. We've seen
them do it time and time again regards to whether
they're the favorite or the underdog. They just know how

(01:15:21):
to win these games because they know how not to
mess them up. And more teams screw it up just
thinking about how to cant see the Chiefs had them
dead the rights game. It's done, it's done. DeFore jumps
off side, gives Tom Brady an extra down, an extra opportunity.
They go down the field, they score over time, what happens,
We've seen it. They win the coin flip. What happens

(01:15:43):
over it's over. When they win the coin flip, it's over.
You know it and yeah it was over in Super
Bowl fifty one. It was over it and that's why
you don't want to see it. So the same anxiety
that you have. Players have the same anxiety because when
they look across the thing, they're not seeing Tom Brady
for who he is, this doing tom Brady for what
he has always done. And so in those situations because

(01:16:06):
the mystique, because right now they're still more mystique than magic,
but the mystique can carry you a long way. People
mess it up. You've seen it. The same anxiety that
you have when you're like, oh my god, he's gonna
I I agree with that. I agree within that sixty
minute window of game time and those three to three
and a half hours, And that's how that Bill Belichick

(01:16:26):
cares of that week, that it's in that time. I'm
not going to fool myself and say that these other teams,
because of what they've done over the long haul, have
an advantage over the Patriots, but they will have to
go on the road again if they have to face Baltimore.
Of Baltimore can win their divisional playoff game. And the
other thing is is I just think that the other
teams in the a f C are better. I think

(01:16:48):
the Chiefs are better than they were last year when
they faced them in the a f C Championship game.
Their defense is better, Baltimore is better. I don't know
if Houston's gonna dominate them like they did earlier this
year in Houston. I don't think that's the case. But
I still think that there's an opportunity that the Texans
can get what they need to do on offense and
get it done. And as I mentioned in a playoff game,

(01:17:09):
you really believe that. I'm just saying that more like now,
like like now, so just what we're saying so all
that that that's stuck that we have and the Dan
buyers show we can put all that, we can put
it all that on the line, Like right now we're
putting we're putting the title to your house on the line,
and it's the Patriots versus the field. You can take

(01:17:29):
the field not as your house, Like we're just gonna
put it all up there right now when it done.
I would feel more comfortable doing it this year than
I did. And let's say any of the pre Super Bowl,
like this is what we're doing, Like we're putting the
title to the house, the title to the house right
here the Patriots, Tom there are more opportunities for this

(01:17:51):
team to falter, and they're not good enough to avoid
all of those land mines. So you put you put
the title, the title, the titles up. They don't have
they don't have a you know, crappy Tennessee Titans team
coming to Foxborough for a divisional playoff game. In fact,
they're likely going to have to face the third seed,
a division winner in the NFC or the a f

(01:18:13):
C divisional playoffs sometimes has the number one seed. Maybe
there's an upset, Maybe Kansas City has to go on
the road to England and get the dub. I don't
think that. I don't think the Patriots could navigate a
Kansas City Baltimore playoff run and make it to the
Super Bowl. I just don't don't think so. I know

(01:18:34):
in those sixty minutes, and I know in that three
and a half hours that it's so difficult to bet
against Bill Belichick. But I will just go not with
my head, Bucky, in with my heart and have the
motto A B T P. As we revealed, anybody but
the Patriots in the Super Bowl. That's all that we
ask for. I don't want to see this stupid Navy

(01:18:55):
end zone again. I'm done with it. I'm blue. I'm
just it's the same old, same old thing. Let's mix
it up. Let's get a chief sends one in there
with some red or yellow. Let's do something different in
the a f C for once. How does that sound?
I don't know what about the Saints of the NFC?
Oh Man with Patriots? No, I don't want to see

(01:19:16):
the sing I don't want to see the Patriots two
old quarterbacks go duke it off. I know one thing
you won't see. Jason Garrett is the head coach of
the Cowboys. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. It all
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Nation and the Locked On Actors podcast will join us
breaking down Tonight's a Monday night game. I would say
this before I'm going to say something about the Cowboys
that I don't think a lot of people will want
to hear. But I'm gonna say this Bucky about Tonight's game.
It should mean more to Green Bay because of what
they have at stake, because they have an opportunity to

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get home field. This team needs home field bad. They
cannot afford to play three games in the playoffs. They
can't afford to have two of those games be road games.
Green Bay needs to be home not because they want
teams to come and play on the frozen tundra of
lambeau Field. It's because the team is not going to
travel well and they need to have the easiest path,

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just like the Patriots have had all those years. Even
if the Vikings win tonight, the Packers can clinch the
NFC North with a win next week against the Lions.
But I will say this, I think this game tonight
means more to the Vikings bands than it does the
actual Minnesota Vikings because of just to the Green Bay

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Packers are the way that like there there are there
was a Packer section I believe in the Minneapolis Star
Tribune like that tells you of how many Packer fans
are actually in Minnesota as it's close to the border.
I mean, the Packer fans will, I don't want to say,
invade Minneapolis for the simple fact of they're everywhere. They're

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kind of like cub fans when it when it comes
to places throughout the Midwestern there cub fans everywhere outside
of Chicago, whether it be in Indiana or Iowa or
Wisconsin or cub fans everywhere. It's the same thing with
Packer fans throughout the country, but specifically even just outside
of Wisconsin in those areas. Kind of different with the Bears,
mostly Illinois Bears fans, but you have this this crossover
with the Packers and the Vikings. So for Vikings fans,

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they have Green Bay come to town tonight more important
to them, But in reality, I think it's more important
for Green Bay just because of all that's at stake
for that team heading into the play offs. Well, it's
important for both teams. But you are right about the
importance to Green Bay when it comes to home field
advantage and the boy I will contend that despite their
eleven and three record, the Green Bay Packers are not

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one of the premier teams in the National Football League.
They're not a title contender. Um. They've done a great
job of running off wins, UM, but some of it
has been favorable scheduling and the like. Aaron Rodgers, to
me has not played at um a high level of
the level that he typically performs at. And I don't
know if the Packers can get enough stops on defense,

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score enough with a balanced offense to compete with the
top teams in the league. I don't know if they
can beat San Francisco. I don't know if they can
beat a New Orleans Saints in a playoff game. I
don't know how Matt la Flour is going to handle, uh,
dealing with playoff uma, playoff atmosphere, playoff games, and those things. So, um,

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they need to finish one or two in the NFC.
They would be in their best interests to somehow maybe
find their way to the number one seed. But yeah,
if they happen to drop down into where they're a
three or four team, they have a tough time get
into the super Bowl. This was the college football playoff.
Would look at Green Bay and be like, well, what's
their good win? I mean it at Dallas they have

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a home win against the Vikings where they jumped out
to a twenty one nothing leading then held on for
dear life to win the game. I like that. I
like the way you use adjectives. I like the way
you described it. The imagery was there they held on
for dear life. Yeah, they win to win. They beat
the Chiefs in Kansas City with Matt Moore at quarterback.
I'm like, like, if you're in the committee and you're
sitting there trying to decipher and you're looking at the
different teams throughout the NFL to put in the playoff,

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that's what you would look at with Green Bay, right.
I mean you still still counts, but it still counts, yes,
But if this was a different format or a different
way to analyze it, as as you were saying, their
record is what it is. It's eleven and three and
are an eleven win team through fourteen games out of
the season. But if you were to step back like
we do in college football and take other things into

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account and have a committee to decide who's really the best,
there would be serious questions. I think that if you
took the top four teams in the NFL, the Green
Bay Packers would not be one of those teams, despite
their record being top four worthy, right, yeah, yeah, I
mean they're tough to figure out. I just it's not

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in love with them. They just haven't. They don't dominate
them to fast and that your customers, and maybe that
is some of my Packers spoiled them. I'm gonna spoiled
by the Packerston. Haven't seen them play their best. I
just gotta wonder. Well, they go to the West Coast,
they lose to the Chargers, they get dominated by the
San Francisco forty nine. Another in the Eagles game. They
remember the Eagles was their first loss of the season

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on Thursday Night Football. They lost at home. But when
you look at what they have done week after week,
there's wins over the Redskins, there's wins over the Giants,
there's wins over the Panthers, the Lions, the Raiders, I mean,
the Broncos. It's it was a very very easy schedule.
See if Green Bay can maybe put some of that
narrative to rest tonight, if they can win in Minnesota,

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because it would go a long way. I would say
this about the Dallas Cowboys. They choked. There. It is there,
It is there. It is the big the Big Sea
word choked. The Dallas Cowboys choked. They ain't choke last
year against the Rams, but they choked against the Green

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Bay Packers a couple of years ago when they had
the number one seed. Close game or not, you gotta
win that game. They came out in Week fifteen and
destroyed the Los Angeles Rams in a game that meant
what absolutely nothing means something. They all mean something that
Come are you just dismissing everything? Come on listen. You
and I both know and everyone in Dallas knew that

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in Week fifteen the game that mattered to them. What
was what was going to happen in Week sixteen? So
it wasn't like the game yesterday just up on them.
We knew the stakes. In fact, the Cowboys were the
only one. The Eagles realistically didn't even have an opportunity
to shut everything down. It wasn't like the Eagles were
playing for a division title. They were actually just playing

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to put themselves in position to try to win a
division title. Completely different, or the Cowboys just have it
on the They have a to do list of one thing.
When the game clinches, the division wraps up everything. You
also have an opportunity that goes along with winning the
division of getting a home game in the NFL playoffs.
You also have an opportunity to maybe help save your
head coaches job. You also have an opportunity to maybe

(01:26:37):
make your quarterback make a little bit more money. None
of those things came through yesterday, and so when the
stakes were at their highest, the Dallas Cowboys did not
come through. And that's why the Sea word choke is
appropriate for the Cowboys today. You don't you just think
of what they were outplayed, That they were out coached,

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all right, I mean that's not choking, That's not see
choking to me is you're up, you're in control of
the game, and then you just fall apart due to
a series of bone had mistakes and miscuse. I just
felt like they were just out coach from the jump.
They didn't have a great game plan, they didn't bring
their their their best energy and effort and the field.

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The Eagles just dominated the game from the outset. Um,
so I wouldn't come the choke here. The Eagles, with
all of their limitations, they still found a way to
win the football game. We knew the Eagles were good
against the run. They were top three in the NFL
and yards per game. That was the that was the effort.
Cowboys ran the ball thirteen times with Ezeki Elliott sixteen

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times total for the game yesterday, Dack through forty four
passes and what ended up being a one score game. Yeah,
I mean there's too many, too many passes for you
guys who came in with a bad and store shoulder.
I mean, it just it doesn't make sense. But I mean,
you know, like they felt like they couldn't run against
the Eagles front. And I think the thing that was

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more annoying is not only that, Like look, six drop passes,
maybe crept up to eight drop pass They had a
number of drop passes. Their guys didn't make plays. Um,
Ezekiel Ellet didn't touch the ball enough. In my mind,
if you go down in a in a game like that,
you want to make sure that your best player gets
twenty to twenty touches that he touches it enough where

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we're able to see that he had an impact on
the game one one way or the other. Um the
unexplainable substitution patterns Mark kops In, He's out. They didn't
want to get Tavon Austin a shot. What m Tavon
Austin is not a credible thread at wide receiver, Like
like you said, we had to feel like we needed

(01:28:47):
to get him hoping. That's the thing is on the
on the over deck overthrown by fifteen yards. Uh. And
I know it's crazy to think, but he had them.
Now there's a whole other, the whole other equation of
Tavon Austin catching that pass. But that's it. It to me,
and when when it's just laid out there to have

(01:29:09):
that sort of effort. And that's why with Adam Kaplan
we talked about the third and one play. Doug Peterson
would relish that opportunity of having that play call. Not
only did the fumble hurt them with the loss of
possession and the inability to get points. Maybe in the
grand scheme it changes some of the way that the
game was played. But Adam said, maybe it should have

(01:29:30):
been a two score game. And yeah, you take that
fumble and you think, okay, what what could have been?
If you just hold on the ball, you probably kick
a field goal. But I look at what the Eagles did.
Oh it was he didn't overthrow by five yards or
fifteen yards. It was more like eight yards. Thatt Dak
Prescott overthrew Tavon Austin yesterday. I just saw the replay
of the spring. But the point being is Doug Peterson

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would relish in that opportunity of coming up with a
play call, and all that the Cowboys and the coaching
staff and Kellen Moore and Jason Garrett could come up
with was an option pitch. I mean not not only that,
So you talk about that, but you're talking about that
play that's not to play the fourth down player. The
game is on the line, and this is a this

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is the point where the end of the game. Game
is on the line. Man, we gotta have a play
and of all the plays on the play sheet, either
a fade, a go route down to down to boundary
to Michael gallup, a ball and Alie you pass. That's
basically what we came up with. At some point In

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these games, coaching comes into play when you have to
scheme and design things to get your best players open.
Your best players are looking to the coach and the
coordinator to find ways to create opportunities for them to
be able to get touches so they can impact the game.
When your coach fails you in that regard, it's hard

(01:30:55):
to ever get past that. As a player. Players are
looking for co which is to be problem solvers. And
in that game yesterday against the Eagles, I didn't see
Jason Garrett and his staff solving problems. This is how
I envisioned. And I didn't hear the radio call, so
I'm gonna make it up myself. This is how I

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envisioned that fourth now play happening from the Cowboys radio booth.
Imagine me being Bradsham, the voice of the Cowboys. Okay,
all right, here we are fourth down, Prescott in the shotgun.
He's got gallup on his left, line up to his right,
our Witton, jar wint In Shultz. Where in the world
are Cooper and Cobb? What are you doing on the sideline? Hot,

(01:31:41):
deep or thrown? What are they doing? Why are nineteen
and eighteen on the sidelines. What is going on here?
Why don't I just say Schultz was in the game.
I don't even know who Schultz is. That's how I
would think the play by play went. I don't know
if Dalton Schultz made the game, but they Jason Garrett
said he liked the look that they at on the
field and and if he had looked to his left,

(01:32:03):
he would have seen Randall Cobban, Amari Cooper and would
not have liked that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer.
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US Bank Stadium, NFC North Showdown, Vikings and Packers joining
us now he covers the Packers for sp Nation and
also on the Locked On Packers podcast. Peter Bikowski joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Peter, how are you?
I'm good, guys, how are you? We are doing well.

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We've talked about this game throughout the show here and there,
and I brought up a point Peter of I think
this game means more to Vikings fans, but it should
be more to the Packers team. Is there is there
some validity in the point that I am making about
tonight's game. I think you are right, but from the
from the from the Vikings perspective, just as a team,

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they're in the playoffs and their path to getting a
home playoff game involves the Packers losing in week seventeen
to you know Jeff driscoll or David Blouer, Uh, you
know Scott Mitchell whoever is going to play quarterbacks? Uh?
And and so if you're the Vikings, you know it's
gonna be tough. Right. So for the Packers, they're still

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playing for the two seed, and really still the one
seed is in play for them. They're still playing for
that NFC North UH that that path is much narrower
for the Vikings, and so they're they're pretty much gonna
be the sixth seed in the NFC. They don't they
don't need this game in the same way that that
Green Bay does, particularly because I think frankly, right now

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the Vikings are playing better. I think they would feel
more comfortable going in UH to UH New Orleans or
or San Francisco and and feeling like they can win.
Green Bay has been so up and down this season
that I think that first round by could be the
launching path that they need to sort of get themselves
in position to make a Super Bowl run. You know,

(01:34:35):
it's funny that you mentioned the first round by. UM.
When I look at this Packers team, I don't know
what to make of them. How good are they? You know? Listen,
I think I think they're still trying to figure that out.
Matt Lafleur keeps saying, we're not going to apologize for winning,
which is I think a tacit admission of they haven't.

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They haven't played their their best football yet this season
for any consistent stretch of time. Early in the year,
it was the defense winning games and the offense didn't
look great. Then there was that stretch in the middle,
ironically without Davante Adams, where the offense looked great and
and the defense wasn't playing its best. And then now
we'll see them play great as a team for a

(01:35:18):
quarter or a half or a stretch of three drives
in a row. We haven't seen them put this all
together yet. That's what I think if you're if you're
a Packers fan. You know, we talked about Vikings fans
in their perspective and how much they'd like to beat
Green Bay in a season like this. But if you're
a Packers fan looking at this this team, going what

(01:35:38):
do we make of this team? Well, they're a high
variance team and and we know that the good can
be really good. We're not asking anyone to be anything
that they haven't shown us in flashes this year. And
that's the That's the thing that I think you can
really point to and say, if you're someone who believes
in Green Bay or believed in in Aaron Rodgers or

(01:35:59):
whatever it. You can point to those moments, those drives,
I mean two drives in a row. They looked awesome
against the Bears, and the rest of the drives or
the rest of the season or the rest of the game,
excuse me, they just sort of meandered. And if they
could look more like that for a full game, they
would be a really, really, really good team. That's the

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difference though, between a good team and a great team
is great teams are like that more often than this team. It.
Peter Burtkowski joining us here on Fox Sports Radio talking
about the Packers Vikings game tonight in Minneapolis. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Dan Buyer, sitting in for Doug Gottlieb here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Born and I was born and
raised in the state of Wisconsin. One of the great
family traditions as of late are the family talking about

(01:36:42):
the Packers and complaining about Ted Thompson or Mike McCarthy.
They don't have those traditions anymore. But Peter, I'm going
to ask you this, should they start a new tradition
complaining about what Brian Goodakunst has given Aaron Rodgers in
terms of targets. Is there any validity? Is this still
early to to see because there was a time where
Ted Thompson did provide targets for whether it be Brett Favor,

(01:37:05):
whether it be Aaron Rodgers. Now with what he's got there,
is it fair to criticize what Green Bay's got in
the receiving corps. I don't know that it's fair. Just
from the standpoint of this is we're talking about year
two for Bryan and and he came in with essentially
the mandate to rewrite the recent history of the Packers

(01:37:28):
inability to draft effectively. Ted Thompson was all time great
Like his first four or five years in Green Bay
at finding um. You know, not only did he signed
Charles Woods in which you know, that was a franchise
altering decision, you know, in nearly the way that Reggie
White was, um, you know, back in in the early nineties.

(01:37:48):
But then he also drafts Aaron Rodgers. He finds guys
like David Botari, Josh Sitton, t J. Lang in the
fourth round, finds Jordy Nelson in the second round, right
Jennings in the second round. They built that team through
the draft, but over the last few years of the
Ted Thompson tenure, they were so um inconsistent in finding
those guys, and he was so adamant that you couldn't

(01:38:12):
use trade and free agency to to buoy this these rosters.
And so Brian Lutikins is coming and said, look, here's
here's the plan. There's going to be a change in approach.
Spending money is back on the table. They did that
this off season, totally reworked this defense, and it has
paid enormous dividends both culturally and on the field. You

(01:38:34):
can't do everything at all times. They haven't invested the
same level of top tier draft capital in the offense
as they have the defense because they've been trying to
fix the defense and and Aaron Rodgers has made up
for all those deficiencies. Right Well, the Aaron Rodgers we've
seen the last few years can't make up for those
deficiencies in the same way. I think what you'll see

(01:38:56):
this off season is a concerted effort to recapture or
some of the you know, they got Davontae Adams in
the second round. They've used to spend more draft capital
on the the You know, they drafted Randall Cobb in
the second round in two thousand eleven when they had
guys at that position and they were they were able
to just sort of turn one pass catcher into another.

(01:39:18):
To Michael Finlan, I mean, think of all the talent
they were able to bring in there, they haven't spent
the resources on it. I think you're going to see
it different this offseason because of of the investments they've
made in the defensive side that are now paying off.
You know, and in thinking about you talk about them
finding upgrades and replacements, at some point they need to

(01:39:39):
find a replacement for Aaron Rodgers. Do you think this
could be the year where maybe they trying to identify
a young successor to his throne. It could be. And
and remember we had we had reports that Brian Judkins
really liked Drew lock and and that it was not
out of the question that he that he would would

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tar get him. You know, whether it was with that
second first round pick that they had at thirty, Who
knows if that was just them saying, you know, this
is a year where we've got two first round picks,
and so maybe we try something that could have been
there um their perspective on it. But this is a
draft class where you could, you know, someone like Jordan's Love,
uh could be a developmental player who it fits what

(01:40:21):
green based timeline would be. You're thinking two three years
down the line, where you know, if you go back
to ron Wolf and Bucky, you know this, they used
to draft the quarterback just about every year at some point,
and he would and that was the ron wolfway. And
and ron Wolf not only did did he give way
eventually to Ted Thompson, but he hired Brian Utica and so, uh,

(01:40:43):
you know, they're aware of this tradition to It's just
something that I think in the new CB A can
can get a little more complicated than it used to be.
I think that's something that they need to sort of
get back to, even if it's the third round or
the fourth round, just just throw a dart and and
see if you can find someone in worst case scenario
in a couple of years. Well, worst case scenario, he's

(01:41:04):
bad and you got to move on. But maybe you
can get him and and trade him. And that's what
Green Bay did. You know how many times did they
do that with backups in the Ron wolfair. I mean
they traded a first round pick, got a first round
pick for Matt Hasselbeck, traded Mark Burnow. I mean, there
are so many of these players. Kurt Warner was in
the Packers camp for for a hot second. So I

(01:41:24):
mean that that would that would make some sense if
they wanted to just say, okay, for the next five years,
at least every other year, draft someone because you never
know when Aaron is just going to be done. It's amazing.
I think it's a perfect point to wrap up because
I don't know if that NFL exists anymore. I know
it doesn't exist in Pittsburgh because anybody that is drafted

(01:41:45):
behind Ben Roethlisberger, he's gonna play for ten more years.
But I mean to think that, you know, Brett Farve
was so entrenched of where he was that it wasn't
it was it was everybody knew the plan. Nowadays, I'm
not sure that's the case. Peter appreciated. We could find
your stuff again esp Nation in the Lockdown Packers podcast,
and we can find you on Twitter at Peter Underscore.

(01:42:07):
Pikowski correct. Yep, got all the deats a right. Enjoy
the game tonight. Peter will do it again soon. I
appreciate you guys. Take care of Merry Christmas to you,
and Happy New Year as well. Peter was gonna he
got a mayor in there, but think about Aaron Brooks
and I don't know if that was one of the
quarterbacks that that he mentioned. You met Mark bronell or or,
but it was. Nowadays and it's not just a Green

(01:42:29):
Bay thing. You can't do that in the NFL without
the quarterback. I mean maybe outside of New England, and
even in New England, you're like, it's Bill Belichick ready
to move on from Tom Brady with Jimmy Garoppolo or
Jacoby like that sort of NFL doesn't exist like it
did back then. No, but I think you can. I
think obviously. Uh, the CBA makes it challenging because if

(01:42:52):
you take someone high, you have them for four or
five years, depending on how you decide to use the
fifth year ops. But I think you know, for whatever reason, Uh,
in a game where we always talk about competitive people
always compete and compete for you just earn everything, the
quarterback position is the only one where we don't hold

(01:43:12):
them to the same standard. Uh, even you alluding to like, oh,
in today's NFL, you can't really do that? Well, why not,
Like why can't the quarterback feel the presence of another
young dude uh in the quarterback room? So he ups
his performance because ultimately, you would always rather get rid
of a player a year too early than a year

(01:43:32):
too late. And so if we're constantly evaluating the quarterback position,
I want to make sure I have a young guy
ready to take over. I agree with that. But the
reason I say is you can't do it is in
better authors Berger is the perfect example. Mason Rudolph was
never gonna take his job. Mason Rudolph was only going
to take his job if Ben completely fell off the
face of the earth or retired, which he had talked about,

(01:43:55):
he talked about and nausea. But then when they bring
the quarterback in, he doesn't. Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna
stick around, and I mean to just put it all
in Ben roths Burger. But it's just one of the
established quarterbacks that you could put on the level of
Brett Farve. Brett farveas a going to be challenged, like
in that situation, like Brett Farve's not thinking, are they're
gonna play Mark Brunell over me like like like Dan,

(01:44:17):
It's it's kind of like this. You have a show
and say, all of a sudden they bring a co
host you used to do on a solo show to Nelson, Hey,
Bucky's gonna cost Okay, no problem, But how secure you
should tell? What good got? Is not worried one iota
about Dan Buyer coming in and taking his spot. This
is the old NFL. That's new NFL is Oh my goodness,

(01:44:40):
Tom Brady's feelings are hurt. Oh my goodness, what is
gonna happen? So but I think I think you can.
I think you should always explode a possibility of upgrading
um the quarterback position, and you should teach him and
coach him and develop him is the biggest um bargaining
chip that you have, having a young quarterback that can play.
And so if you can stock file and have a

(01:45:02):
handful of those, if you have a developmental system that
enables you to be able to do that, then man,
you should be able to turn those guys out. So
I would say, not every year, but every other year
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Yesterday scene in Los Angeles Carson, California, to be specific,
was something else. To say the least we knew about
opposing fans taking over when the Charges are playing home games,
but yesterday against the Raiders was another deal in itself.
This was Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers not only talking about

(01:45:44):
what happened yesterday when the black hole moved south to
southern California, but really what these last three years have
been like playing in Carson. We definitely have gotten used
to it. What will be in years to come remains
to be seen. But uh, yeah, it was tough. It's
it's tough. I mean, I think again that anything to
do with the outcome of the game, but being someone
that remembers what it used to be like a home games,

(01:46:05):
it was, it's pretty It's pretty bad. No, I didn't
think that the NFL really got a good look at
what it would have been like if the Raiders were
in Los Angeles, like and I know there are a
lot of reasons why they did not want the Raiders here.
They didn't want to take over. Yeah, anyone to Silver
and Black take over, but that's the Raiders would have
taken over. Yeah, but now when you're looking at what
you have nothing, Yeah, wouldn't you rather have the takeover

(01:46:28):
than than anything else? Yeah? I mean I think this
was kind of filth and boss from the start. I
felt like San Diego and San Diego is going to
move the Charges, meaning if they were gonna move closer
to l A to try and get some of that,
I think they shouldn't come north of South Orange County
because that would enable them to continue to get to
San Diego market little Orange County that could be there
l A. With the Rams already here to come all

(01:46:50):
the way up here, they're so far away from there
established fan base in San Diego that they can't get
those people to come up every weekend, and so they're
kind of nomads. And then when you look at the team, look,
I like the team, but I don't know if there's
star power that will make me drop when I'm doing
on a Sunday to go watch them, And I think

(01:47:13):
that's what we're seeing. No One is really excited about
the Charges up here because they really don't have roots
in this area, but doesn't. It doesn't. It also reflect
very poorly on the NFL owners for making the decisions
that they forced the Spanos family to make, uh for

(01:47:33):
the reluctance to have the Raiders in Los Angeles, all
for the sake of their own interests as owners. I
understand it's their league. I don't. I don't. I don't
fault Dean Spanos for moving the team. I know there's
a lot of history in San Diego, but when you
were given the options that he had where everything ended
up coming to I actually don't blame him for doing that.

(01:47:57):
What I blame is how the situation unfolded when you
this fan base of Raider fans that now will just
go three hours to Las Vegas and and part of
that piece by ESPN that was done last month, that
is now a problem of the NFL owners that they're
mad of while there's gonna be this whole fan base
that is just gonna drive three hours to Las Vegas
now and watch the Raiders, when maybe they should have
just been open to the Raiders coming to l A

(01:48:19):
all along, and you wouldn't have this problem now. You
wouldn't have had this problem but yeah, I think there's
a level of excitement in Vegas um about what could be.
I think you have Southern California Raider fans who are
excited about the prospect of either taking short flights, driving
over or maybe when the train is built that enables
you to get there. Um. Yeah, and if you go

(01:48:40):
there with a good product, which it looks like the
Raiders are going to be a good product by the
time they open up the stadium. Yeah, I think there's
a lot of excitement um building around the Raiders. And
I don't know if the same momentum is being built
in l A with the Charges and even with the Rams,
because look, two years ago we thought those two teams
could possibly eat into Super Bowl. A year later, neither

(01:49:02):
team is in the playoffs and the serious questions about
the team construction of both teams. And I think the
momentum of the Rams and Rams are always going to
have their fans that have been Rams fans in l
A that that never left. They're always gonna be there.
It's getting the new ones. I think the NFL would
have been better off. And not the first to say this,
but now if you with knowing what you know, the

(01:49:23):
Raiders should have been in l A. The Chargers going
to Las Vegas would have been new that would have
been different. I don't know how feasible it would have
been for that to happen, but to be so close
to homes to the point that you're making, Yeah, it's
and and and I blame the I blame the NFL
owners that were involved because they were doing stuff for
their own interests, or they had a grudge with Mark Davis,

(01:49:43):
they're trying to protect Dean span Us, whatever the case
may be. There should have been a way to figure
out how to get the Raiders in l A to
make it work. And that didn't happen. Because it sure
worked for the Raiders yesterday against the Chargers. Yeah, it
absolutely work for him. It did work for him. And
look that artists have serious issues. I know they don't
have to make a decision where there's the coach or

(01:50:04):
the quarterback. I would say keep the coach, move on
from the quarterback. But we'll see and and actually I
think that's why Philip Rivers made the comments that he
made yesterday. Yeah, like he knows, he also needs to
speak up about what actually happened, because that was the
time to do it. There's not gonna be any more
games there. He may not be the Chargers starting quarterback
anymore after this next week. So that was the time

(01:50:27):
to do it and actually feel really bad for Philip
Rivers and give him kudos to say it because he's
he's a he's a a great quarterback. Hall of fame
will be debated, but the final three years of his
career had to be played in unwelcome You had to
play forty eight road games. Then his career good tough,

(01:50:47):
He's Bucky Brooks. That that was with the compassion of
a former player in Pierre, like, alright, let's I've been
those games. Win to feel like road games if he
wasn't playing for the other team too at all. Behind
Jamis he's right there. Oh oh boy, there it is

(01:51:11):
Bucky Badgers, Philip Rivers the news segment here on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on Twitter at
Buckey Brooks. I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. Coming up next,
a future Hall of Famer might have played his last
game in the NFL, which share that with you next
year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the
live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

(01:51:35):
the I Heart Radio app. I'm Dan Buyer, He's Bucky Brooks.
Glad to have you along today as we are sitting
in for Doug Week six scenes and I Packers and
Vikings from Minneapolis. Should be a dandy. Speaking of dandy's,
let's bring in our good friend Isaac Loan Kron with
a segment we like to call the press. The press

(01:51:57):
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have to begin with an item in two tweets, as
is so often the case these days. So here's the

(01:52:17):
first tweet from Chris Mortenson regarding Ben Roethlisberger. I've talked
to people who have spoken with him, and he has
some doubt whether he's really gonna play football again. And
now for the clarification tweet, which was just tweeted fifty
two seconds ago clarity to calm down the masses. The

(01:52:40):
Steelers are now optimistic. Ben Roethlisberger will recover from elbow
surgery to reattach three tendons. Not cleared to throw yet,
but he is tracking better, and Ben himself wants and
expects to play in and beyond. I don't know much
that it's not clarification. That is a complete retraction and

(01:53:03):
opposite of what was treated. He just drives me crazy.
He drives me crazy, all of it, like he just
can't help himself, Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, he's usually not. Mortensen's
a deal to flip this is this is Ben's m
O though, when he knows that he's needed. When when

(01:53:24):
the quarterbacks are like the guy that walked by three
hours ago with earbuds in at the student. And that's
what you're getting from the quarterback position. To say that
you may retire is such a way for Oh no, Ben,
don't leave, Please don't leave. Ben, You've got to come back. Okay,
I'll come back. No, Rex Ryant. It is accurate. It

(01:53:44):
is very accurate. Bucky knows it. I know it. You
should know it as well. And as for let's let's
clarify oh, he's not dead. He's alive. Just to clarify
So and SO is not died. For clarify Asian purposes,
they are alive. And well it should be a retraction,
am I right right? Yes? Yeah. In fact, I just

(01:54:08):
typed clarity to calm down the Masses into Google Translate
and it came back retractions. So nice to know that
about Chris Morton said, all right, onto Another quarterback, Tom
Brady interviewed on The Greg Hill Show earlier today and
touched on topics including his father, Tom Brady Senior, and

(01:54:29):
being sort of but not sort of banned from speaking
to the media a few years ago. Let's hear from
Tom Brady Jr. Himself. Well, apparently as a listen because
he's still talking to the media. So, my dad, he
is just an amazing man. He's very, uh, you know,
forthcoming with information. So I keep doing Dad. Of course
they're going to keep calling because you keep talking. You know,

(01:54:51):
everyone when you speak, you think I'm speaking, but I'm
not speaking. Said, It's hard for me to tell you
anything because what I've learned, I just can't tell my
dad anything. He has his own opinions and and I
love my dad. You know, he's an incredible man and
been my rolemo on my life, like the so rest
the shirt out there. When families all over America are

(01:55:15):
banning their crazy uncles from speaking at the table during
Christmas dinner, tom Brady has to deal with the same
sort of issues. By the way, guilty is charged for
booking a guest who was a relative of someone who
was in the news. What's happened before joining us? Now?
Is tom Brady's brother Greg? Greg? Very good? Very good? Now,

(01:55:42):
I I have booked a family member of someone who
was in the news. I thought it was appropriate and
it worked out well. But yeah, hey, we can't get
Tom Brady. Let's just get Tom Brady senior. And hey,
on the rundown the producers sent out, you're not lying
on it's his tom Brady's on the list. I want
to do a segment. By the way, booking famous the

(01:56:03):
booking people with famous names. So we just have a
Tiger Woods Tom Brady, you know Bryce Harper show where
it's just guys named Bryce Harper. I don't know how
many are We booked tom Brady's sister Marsha to talk
about when she hit him. The knows w the football
growing up. Finally, Dallas Cowboys executive vice president Steven Jones,

(01:56:25):
on a radio appearance today on one oh five point
three of the Fan says he is still as bullish
on quarterback Dak Prescott as ever. Jones said, and I quote,
I'm sorry, wrong, wrong button there. He said, quote. We
have all the confidence in the world in Doc. We've
never blinked on that. I think Doc has given us

(01:56:47):
every opportunity to have success this year. I'm as bullish
on Dac as I've ever been. Unquote you're good with that,
I'm absolutely good with it. He's the best thing they've had.
Like how they booked Jerry Jones as kid for that,
you know, just feels just just a little joke the press.

(01:57:08):
You ever see the Brady Bunch episode where Joe Namath
was on, Yeah, was Bobby was sick and then they
tried to fool they have Joe Namath come over because
Bobby had told his friends he was with Joe Namath.
The greatest thing is the backyard. They made a field
and it was you only have like twelve yards, yet
somehow they were able to fit an end zone in

(01:57:30):
about four yard lines. And then Bobby Bobby Brady caught
the touchdown pass at the end and Joe Namath ran
off a winner. It was fun, Mary Christmas, Merry Christmas,
you too,

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