All Episodes

August 10, 2020 • 36 mins

Doug gives the latest on a potential college football season this fall after conflicting reports about the BIG 10 possibly cancelling the season. He also expresses his concerns about the championship hopes for a contender in the NBA bubble. FOX Sports golf analyst Shane Bacon joins the show to tell Doug what happened to Tiger Woods over the weekend at the first Major of the year at the PGA Championship.

Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to the Doug gott Leap Show podcast.
Be sure to catch us live every week day three
to six Eastern twelve to three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for the Doug got Leave Show
at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live
every day on the I Heart Radio app by searching
fs R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What

(00:29):
of America, Doug Gotleap Show, Fox Sports Radio. Don No, no, no, no,
dont dont. I hope you're having a not a good
I hope you're having a great day. We've got an
outstanding show for you. Shane Bacon, Bacon, We'll join us
in a half hour get his thoughts in the PGA

(00:51):
Championship in the broken Trophy. Um Joel Clad will join
us in an hour and a half lead college Football
only list for Sports. His his take on the state
of college football, which is very much up in the air.
And Rick Buker will join us half past the five
pm hour on the East coast two pm hour on

(01:11):
the West Coast. We get his thoughts on the bubble
which has burst for one. Zion Williamson a lot to
get to. UM, I don't think it's hard for me
to pick which topic to begin with. Right. This is
not one of those days where on a Monday I'm like, man,
I got too much, too much. I don't I got

(01:33):
one really really good topic. And it's really interesting because
there's this confluence of of issues. The Big Ten, which
had been rumored to have voted already to cancel the
college football season, has not had an official vote from
presidents and chancellors. President Trump tweeted out that the the

(01:58):
student athletes have been working too hard for their season
to be canceled. He did the hashtag we want to
play that was started by Trevor Lawrence, who is the
presumptive number one overall pick. He was a national champion
at Clemson, and he took to Twitter yesterday to say
that he wants to play and kind of echoing my
sentiments for the last month or two, which is, you

(02:19):
understand it's not completely safe, but you're actually more safe
in a college campus than you are if you go home.
And here's why. Many of the top players and coaches
in college football in the country have supported the idea
of playing this season. This is Ohio State head coach
Ryan Day. He said swinging as hard as we possibly
can right now. For these players, this is an over

(02:41):
hashtag fight um. Jim Harbaugh had a lengthy statement today
about why they should have football this fall as well,
Like there's a lot to get to. I'll get you,
I'll give you my my take. It's it's fascinating when
we say it's about the money. Everyone says, well, that's

(03:02):
the wrong tack, that that it's we should be against
it being about the money. It should be about being
the right thing. But if it's football, it's never truly
the right thing. Right, Like, we all go in knowing
full well that among the major sports it is far
and away the most dangerous to the body and to
the mind, and the numbers back it up as such.

(03:25):
So we to operate on one hand, like safety is
the primary concern and that money is the only reason
that overcomes safety. I think is what would mean that
anytime you play football you're only playing for the money,
and that's not accurate. There's this misconception that if players
were getting paid, they would want to play more. First

(03:48):
of all, players and I've said this before and I'll
say it again, you may not like the level of
compensation or the value of the trade. I would tell
you it's far more valuable than how it's portrayed by
people who don't appreciate the value of it. But you
may think that you're allowed to think that, hey man,
they need a better deal. I think the deal is

(04:09):
good and it continues to get even better. And for
of the players, it's incredible, incredible, And the other one percent,
it's incredible in all the benefits it pays off to
them in terms of popularizing them, making them a part
of the conversation and really marketing them for their next
job in the NFL and for when they're done playing football.

(04:30):
But what I I don't understand, because it is a
it is false, is players get nothing. They're playing for free.
They're not playing for free. They're not playing for nothing.
Right You playing pickup basketball is for free? You playing
football with the guys, you know, Turkey Bowl on Thanksgiving,

(04:53):
that's for free. Getting a chance to enroll in go
to a school in have all the benefits of a
major university, as well as all the training that goes
with it, all the tutoring that goes with it, all
the other benefits that go with it, has a substantial
value You may say that value isn't enough, and you

(05:15):
can make your argument, and there are points which I
may actually agree with you on, but I will never
agree with somebody who says the players get nothing. You
get a ton, You might not get enough, right, But
what's ironic is the players want to play already, Like
there's a disconnect between people at home, even former players

(05:37):
and guys who are writers and well, I think about
paid now, if they got paid and they were professional,
if they got paid, then if they didn't want to
show up, they could be fired for it. Or if
they couldn't show up in the season was canceled, they
could be furloughed. That's what happens at big boy jobs.
But the fact is you can't be furloughed now. You

(06:01):
can't even really be fired as long as you don't
have a fireball offense. And everything that colleges are supposed
to do is in an effort to keep you on
track to graduate on time. Coaches get rewarded as such.
A matter of fact, that's one of the idiocies of
the Pact twelve coalition, which wasn't really a coalition of
nearly as many players. They say, in terms of the

(06:23):
bonuses that they want. Of course, you should give bonuses
to coaches when they're student their student athletes succeedings in school,
Why shouldn't they pushes you to get guys to get
better grades and to graduate on time. But we're at
this weird place, this weird kind of crossroads where look,
I've been told that one of the things the Big

(06:43):
Ten has is examining is whether or not that there's
there's this data that says, hey, there's a a possibility
that when players get COVID, it's not about dying or hospitalization,
it's about what the rest of their life looks like.
That would also in them up to you know, liability
out the wazoo. Most everyone knows if you have a

(07:07):
pulse that you're actually safer on a college campus being
watched over by team doctors, by your coaches, by your
peers to not violate whatever protocols you have in place.
Most people know that, and the numbers would support as such,
the differences. When you're on a college campus, you are
under the watchful eye of that university, and your parents
could sue that university if something happened to you, God forbid.

(07:31):
So what what colleges college football is doing. Is the
old c y A cover their booties and we didn't
say booties with A. And it's going to be amazing
to see how this plays out. Now you get the
president putting himself on one side. You have players, many
of whom don't normally agree with the president. I'm sure
they will accept the president's backing. Like, look, do I

(07:53):
think they play. I think it's really really hard, really
really hard to take in all this data to be
thoughtful to social media and the media and do it anyway.
But you know what, you've probably gotta do it anyway.

(08:15):
Most people cower in the most people cower to it.
They they cow to it. The unintended consequences are severe.
There's not any question that players will suffer from depression.
That players will many of whom you know, will struggle
to go back to school, to stay in shape, or
even to stay healthy, because if you're doing online learning,

(08:38):
you're gonna do it at home. Look, I'm respectful of
how bad this virus is. I am not going to
sit here and tell you that it's nothing more than
the seasonal flu. That's lunacy, right, that's spitting in the face.
Of doctors and scientists that that spend their lives researching

(08:58):
this stuff. But there is a there's a like, there's
cost benefit analysis to to to any deal that you make,
there's a benefit analysis to playing as opposed to not playing.
And if you want to say it's about money, sure,
coach schools are still gonna lose money, gonna lose you know,
their books will be off regardless, probably a little bit

(09:19):
less so if they play. But there's all sorts of
other costs which we don't understand how will be incurred
if they do play. The testing, the safety, the protocols,
you know, how you what you do inside of a stadium,
all of these different things. And we're left here with
a complete mess. And I understand that there's this idea

(09:42):
that we want leadership. The problem is that we are
such a divided country on every single topic that leadership
cannot do its job. The president says something and half
the country disagrees. And that's not just this president, that's
the previous president as well, and the president previous to that.

(10:04):
I'm old enough to know that this is how it
has This is how it has been. Is it more polarizing? Yeah?
But now sports is like that, school is like that.
There are schools that are in session a sec schools
have students on campus now, they're they're trying to navigate
this thing and work for it on the fly, and

(10:26):
they have their own protocols in place. But there are
some schools which won't open, some schools that are open,
some schools that are halfway. So it makes it for
an impossible moving target. And two people who are like, man,
there should be one college football's are in charge of
everything that It's seemingly unpossible when you have such different
perspectives and no matter what you say, half of the

(10:48):
country is going to disagree with you. So I look
at this thing and I'm like, what a mess. But
as with all things, we can also point out that
we reap what we sell. We just do reap what
we sew. Alright, coming up next, it's official. I think

(11:09):
uh an NBA team with championship hopes needs to be
very worried. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app Doug Olive Show Fox Sports Radio. This is
what I don't like I like Todd Ferman. He's a friend,
He's unlock it in and he tweets out. Universities are

(11:31):
rarely concerned that would really concern themselves with the well
being of their student athletes. I'm not buying the decision
to cancel the football season. It's about the player's safety.
I imagine it's more about optics and liability than anything like. Look,
the first thing is that's complete bs the idea that
that the universities don't spend their time thinking about their
students and er student athletes like you. Just I understand

(11:53):
that you want to believe that everyone in power is bad.
Anybody who's in bad power by it nonpower. Get But okay,
so if you're a student athlete, let's just understand all
of the things that you have at your disposal. Right,

(12:14):
you have a team doctor at your disposal. You have
a team trainer, you have a strength coach, a position coach,
an academic staff. Right, you have a head academic advisor
and an and a tutor as well. I'm at six
right now. Six. Most schools have some form of dietitian.

(12:37):
When you have a when you have training table, there's
a chef that is simply dedicated to student athletes meals.
And at most of these schools, you know, within reason,
you can go and say, like, hey man, because you
think about throwing in some salmon there on Wednesdays, that's
a great idea. We'll do some salmon on Wednesdays. How
do you like? It? Made a right? Like you of

(13:00):
all of and and then you have your head coach.
And I know that you think because you've seen movies
that the head coach is uh, you know, he wears
bike shorts and polo with a big collar and has
a whistle and says some bitch all the time. Right,
that's what you think. And some of that is true.
But they actually usually care about their players. And maybe

(13:23):
they don't care about them because they care about them,
maybe because they care about them because those players recruit
the next wave of players. But they do care about
their players. But the worst part is that you have
guys that have never spent time in a college football
or college basketball locker room or or coach's office making
assumptions about the level of care and and percentage of

(13:44):
times that they're thought of within the university, which is
you know that that's me commenting on what it must
be like to work at Tesla. Right, well, I I
know what must says, and I know the cars really well,
it must be this to work there. I have no idea,
no idea. Um, all right, I got this. This is

(14:07):
some This is some bad news for one NBA team
that um, that has championship aspirations. Doug Otlin show here
on Fox Sports Radio. I think the Lakers should be
very worried about their championship title hopes. They're the worst
shooting team in the bubble. And though they can navigate

(14:30):
some of that and work through some of that and
rest some of their guys and get fresher legs. Like look,
if you if you don't have a point guard, there's
very few things you can hide less than not having
a point guard. And if you look at their plan,
their plan was to have Darren Carlson, he announced his retirement.
Then they went to Avery Bradley and re Gen Rondo.

(14:53):
Rondo is over the hill. He's never been a good shooter.
He's not a good fit with Lebron. He probably shouldn't
have been brought back. And they thought if they signed
Collinson middle of the season, they would release Rondo. Now
Rondo's hurt and Avery Bradley opted out, So what are
you left with? What are you left with? You left
with guys that play hard. You have one guy that's

(15:15):
great on defense and one guy that's great on offense,
and neither that can really play forty minutes. That's what
you got, and the Lakers are It's just it's especially
in this league, think about who they're going to have
to potentially go through. You know, if you're playing Houston

(15:37):
and you have a point guard, he's gonna match up with,
you know, either James Harden or Russell Westbrook and get destroyed.
You know, if you play the Portland Trailblazers, you're talking
about going against Damian Lillard. I love Alice Crusoe, I
love the Quinn Cook story. Neither are starting point guards.
And once you have a backup or even a third

(16:00):
point guard that's playing starting minutes, they get exposed. They
get exposed, you know, and then you factor in there
playing Contavious called well Pope a bunch of minutes, and
he's one of those good player on a bad team,
average player on a good team. Danny Green looks over
the hill like they it's not great. But the biggest

(16:21):
thing is once you get several layers deep on a
point guard position, it becomes almost a house of cards.
Now you have Lebron playing strictly the point guard, Lebron
trying to get everybody involved, but doesn't have good enough
players to get them involved. Lebron not playing that well
himself because he's not a spring chicken. He can't carry
a team the way he used to. Anthony Davis has

(16:43):
never been beyond the second round of the NBA Playoffs.
You've got a lot of stuff working against you, but
the point guard thing, that one. If I'm the Lakers,
has got to give me a lot of pause. Be
sure to catch the live edition of the Doug gott
Leap Show week days at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Let's welcome in Shane Bacon. Bacon of course, uh, Shane Bacon.

(17:05):
You know he's try and qualify for the US open Um.
What what made that course? What made that course a
different challenge than others? I just feel like, um, you know,
it was unpredictability with the lies. You know, I talked
to a couple of players earlier in the week before
the tournament got going, and it was a lot about
just guess work on what was gonna happen if you

(17:27):
missed the fairways. And it's also you know, they they
brought those fairways at Harding Park in so much that
everybody was gonna miss fairways. You know. It wasn't like
there's gonna be a guy out there, you know, hitting
scent of the fairways for the week. I mean even
the stratus, the drivers, we're gonna find it because you know,
a lot of the fairways cancered. So it was always
just gonna be on what kind of lie you got.
You know, if you hit it in the rough, was

(17:48):
it gonna be sticky, was it gonna jump? Was it
gonna think down? And we kind of saw all of that,
you know, throughout that final round from all the players.
I mean, it was such a bunch of leaderboard. But
what's so wild about the day was I felt like
the golf course looked like it played difficult, and then
you look at some of these staffs after i mean,
the field scoring average and that final round was the

(18:09):
lowest in the history of the PGA Championship. So it
felt tough, but you know, it really kind of played
easy for those guys Yeah, I mean it's like, you know,
not not pointing out. I know it was a day
in which we didn't have Tiger, but Tiger shout of
sixty seven yesterday he played. He played quite well, obviously
he was you know, it was earlier earlier in the week,
especially Friday, which undid him in terms of his his

(18:29):
chance of competing. Um, what what do you Let's let's
start with Tiger Woods. Was it simply his putting left
him for a couple of days or were his approaches
putting him in spots where it made it for harder putts. Yeah,
I just didn't put well. I mean, you know, he
had that new putter in the bag. And the one
thing that we have seen with Tiger over the years
is when he changes things, especially equipment. You know, it's

(18:53):
it's really a considering how little amount of tournament play
he plays, you know, to get that use that putter
in a practice round, to use that putter when you're
warming up, you know, that's all great, but it's a
completely different beast when you're under the gun and every
put matters. And we saw a lot of kind of
wishful strokes from Tiger, you know, in the middle of
the tournament, you know that Friday and Saturday, So it
was just bad putting week. I mean, if he rolled

(19:13):
in a few more, you know, he would have been
somewhere in the twenty to twenty five range on the leaderboard.
But I did never feel like he was really contending
throughout the week. He hit it fine, it's just you know,
you gotta roll in ten putters in one major championship,
and he made nine for two rounds. What happened Brooks
kept yesterday? Man, did you talk about confounding? That was
maybe the most surprising. You know, Doug, I'm fine with

(19:36):
any athlete, you know, using their platform or using what
they've done historically two kind of chest up against everybody else.
What I've found so weird about the way kept because
changed over the last eight months, ten months, year, is
that it's not just I'm an athlete. This doesn't get
to me. I'm not nervous and major championships. Look at

(19:57):
my resume. It's felt like he's really kind of started
to go after players and what he said on Saturday
night about the field and kind of dismissing Dustin Johnson.
I mean, Dustin Johnson won the US Open at Oakmont.
You know, Oakmont is the hardest golf course on the planet.
And Dustin Johnson wanted while he was dealing with the
rules issue in the middle of the final round, So
I mean to kind of dismiss that and say the

(20:18):
and and talk the way he talked about everybody on
that leaderboard, considering how many great players there were in contention. Granted,
not a lot of major winners, but great players. And
meet Jason Bay and Justin Rose and as we know,
Colin Morricale and there are a lot of young great players.
I didn't really understand it. And I've always felt like
the best athletes in the world, you know, they they'll

(20:38):
talk trash occasion occasionally, but they understand that the trash
they're talking will be backed up by play. And kept
his change that. You know, Douggie shot seventy four three
of the last four major final rounds. I mean, it's
not like he's a guy that's gone out there and
shot sixty five, you know, every Sunday. I mean, this
is in a weird way becoming a little bit of
a trend. Shane Baking and he has Doug Gotlib show

(21:01):
here on Fox Sports Radio. UM There's been so much
talk of Bryson d Shambo because of how long you know,
he is off the off the tea, but also how
well he's played up until this point. Now that he
played four rounds, what's your reaction to his first major
since becoming a major force. Yeah, I mean it was

(21:22):
I'd say probably an A a minus for the week
for him. You know, he had no top ten the major.
As he finished tea four this week, I don't feel
like he I didn't really feel like he hit it great,
and I didn't feel like he putted it great and
still finished in the top five. I think was a
win for him. I mean, he's looking to win this championship,
of course, but as we know ENGLF, you know, there's
a lot more winners than the guy that walks away
with the big trophy occasionally dropped part of the trophy

(21:44):
at that. But you know, for for Bryceon, I felt like,
all in all, a pretty good week considering I don't
think he had his best stuff. Doug gotlip show on
Fox Sports Trading. Okay, so now I'm confused with the schedule.
What's next? When's the next Major? It's coming up pretty quick,
isn't it. Yeah, we got the US Open, the uh
mid September, and then the Masters in November, and before
all that will have the playoffs coming up in two weeks.

(22:06):
It's it's pretty bunched, you know, I mean a lot
of big stuff without everybody in the field, So there
is kind of This is really normally the part of
the year where we, you know, leave golf. You know,
this is normally the final major of the year, of
the final time when the major's played. And now we're
still gonna get a whole bunch for the next couple
of months. It should be pretty fun. How good was
filling the booth? Did you? Did you get to watch
Phil in the booths at all? Just unbelievable. I mean,

(22:27):
you know, I mean I listened. Was there any surprise
he was gonna be good at that? But you know,
comes right in, throws a couple of jabs to Faldo.
It was awesome. I wish you would have come in
there on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, he was. He was outstanding.
The Dad sex joke was a little I mean, I'm
sure those guys at CBS we're like whoa, whoa, whoa,

(22:48):
And and I love the fact that, like nance completely
got it fall though, had no idea what he's talking about.
Zero and in the best part was that Faldo brought
it up a day later. You know, he brought up
the whole on Sunday selic as well. If if you know,
if if his kids were watching, they might have been
a bit uncomfortable. You're like, hey man, the joke, the
joke passed at this point. It's that, you know, it's

(23:08):
that meme online where the jokes lies over the little
stick figures head. That was That was Faldo up until
Sunday US Opens at Wingfoot. Of course, Phil should have
won their last time the US Open was there. Who
does that course set up well for? Uh Colin more Kala,
I mean a guy that hits the irons like you
know two thousand Tiger. I mean it's a it's again,

(23:29):
it's gonna be a golf course with nasty rough you know.
Wingfoot I think is probably in the Shinnikok Oakmont top
three of tough as US Open venues. So the ruffle
be Narley greens are really really tough. Somebody that can
you know, get the ball close with five six seven
irons is gonna have a lot of success. So somebody
like Colin more Kawa. I mean, this is gonna be
a kid that I'm not saying he's gonna win five

(23:50):
majors or ten majors, but he's gonna be one of
those guys that's in the hunt a lot on the weekend.
And it's just because he hits the ball so well.
So I feel like somebody like Morrikawa Jim lean on
his you know, on his skills that we haven't really
seen since kind of Tiger with his irons. I mean,
that's why he's so great. And so I feel like
a straight hit or that gets the ball affairway and
kind of can lean on the better part of their

(24:11):
game being their iron play, is going to have a
lot of successive wing puts. Yeah, it's interesting, Like there's
there's a lot, there's a I think in the general
public there's a massive misconception about Tiger Woods, right, Like
the greatest iron player ever is what golfers tell me,
Whereas I think, uh, those of us meat heads, like
like people in my possession usually like, wow, you know
he used to just dominate with his driver and out drive, Like, yeah,

(24:33):
there was more to it than that. Sure, he used
to hit a long way, and that allowed him to
play you know, his eights and nines, you know, and wedge.
But he was unbelievable with his eights and nines and wedges,
and then six feet in he was a money putter.
So there's more to it than just he hit it
a long way back in the day. Yeah, you know
what what I've heard from pros about Tiger and what
they all say. I mean, if you ask any professional

(24:56):
golfer that played with Tiger back in the day or
that has seemed Tiger now, know, what they always tell
me is he's the best ever at controlling his distance
with his irons. So even if he misses an iron
a little left or a little right, it's whole high.
And that's what all these pros are trying to do.
They're trying to dial in their irons to where they know,
no matter if they hit it a little offline, it's

(25:17):
still gonna be on the green. Maybe at fifteen feet
left or fifteen feet right. You can make those pluts
for Bertie and you're not gonna make bogies. And that's
what they've always said. Tiger was unbelievable at and when
you talk about more Akala who just won. You know,
call more. Kala did a track Man test. Track Man
is the device that that all these guys use now
that will tell you spin raid and smash factor and
all this stuff that's probably too complicated to explain on

(25:37):
the radio. But he did a track Man test in
college at cal and he he was more consistent with
his six iron in terms of how much he missed
is dispersion than almost all the top level college players
were with their wedges. So that's the guy that's gonna
have a lot of success because if you hit your
irons on the button every time and you miss few greens,

(25:59):
you're it's not gonna have a lot of bogey opportunities
on these golf courses. And if you don't make bogies,
you're gonna be a contention. Yeah yeah, I mean that
sounds easy enough. I can't not make a bog That's
that's my problem. My problem is I put myself in
position for a bertie and then I three put right,
Like I just put me down for a bogey. That's
probably what was gonna happen anyway. Like I get to
the green, I just figured just let me down for

(26:20):
a three put. I'll be I'll be fine and a
three put sometimes even I said, sometimes that is is
uh is generous? Okay, So what's your deal? Right? Like
we sold golf, are we selling you too? Do you
get sold? I don't hope nobody sells me. I mean,
I've got a couple of podcasts. You know. I started
a podcast this year with Macomer, who's a PGA Tour
player and a fan favorite of anybody that follows him

(26:41):
on social media. And that podcast is called Get a
Grip and it's done really well and it's fun hearing,
as you guys know, it's fun when you hear from
an axial athlete like JJ Reddick does in the NBA,
you know, where they tell you what's going on in
their world as they're playing in it. So I got
a couple of golf podcasts focused on that, and then,
um just you know what's been really cool with since
they've given me the opportunity to do stuff outside of golf.

(27:03):
You know, I've had a chance to some NFL and
some college basketball and uh in the Westminster Dog Show
for goodness say something. How could I ever forget about
that best week of my life? So you know, I've
had an opportunity to do some other stuff and then
and hoping that continues even without the U s g
A contract. Am I crazy that that the Teraminent was
a better watch without the fans? You know, I've got

(27:23):
a friend of mine that has just for years preached
that golf would be a better sport without fans. What's
interesting about no fans there is where professional golfers missed
golf shots. It's where the fans stands. So if you
see a guy like John rom miss a fairway by
five yards, he's gonna be where the fans are standing,

(27:45):
so he's typically gonna draw a decent lie. And what
was great about this week in particular considering it was
a major championship, is the rough was gnarly and if
you missed it there, you didn't have the luck of hoping.
You know, Jerry, then golf fan was stay in right
there two minutes before and you've got a great lie.
So I'm with you. I'm I'm okay with no fans

(28:05):
of golf events. I think it looks great. But I know,
I know the golfers in general are excited to get
him back because I know when you make a fifty
footer like Justin Thomas did a few weeks ago, and
and nobody cheers. It's a little awkward, you know, it
is a little awkward. I also think it you appreciate
the golf course more, right, Like I I What happens
is they always go back to the stock aerial footage, right,

(28:26):
and they show it and here's the drone going over it,
and you're like, yeah, I don't know. I feel like
that because the the caraman can go anywhere and can
show you, you know, the they can they can take
a look at the entire course. I just think it
gives you a much better sense of things, whereas otherwise
you've got people lining all the fairways, it may not
give you nearly the same feel. I also, you know,

(28:48):
I hate the you deman be the ball again the
whole right, Like I got it. They're they're all kind
of cliche and and you know some of the you
know was a hot Mike incident yesterday or whatever, last
minute couple minutes on ESPN. I think more Mike's and
more interaction where it feels like there's really a twosome,

(29:09):
you know, playing golf and their chatter with their caddy.
I think all of that stuff is better? Is better
for the sport that would be That would be one
viewer's opinion. Yeah, well, I mean you you get a
better feel of who the players are, right, I mean,
if you hear him laughing, joking, you know, talking about
how terrible in golf shot was. That's the stuff, the
natural sound you're gonna get from players. You know. That's
one thing that that our producer at Fox, Mark Womas,

(29:30):
implemented early on that people complained about to start because
they thought it sounded weird when the ball went in
the cup, But put it in those microphones in the
cups allowed us to hear the players up around the
greens talk about the put talk about the break, you know,
give the reads their caddy. You know. Dustin Johnson famously
that was where we got all that audio at Oakmont
when he was dealing with the ball moving on that green.

(29:50):
So yeah, I mean, I I feel like we hear
so much more from the players. And if it's an
occasional left bomb, it's an occasional left bomb. I mean,
we've all said it on the golf course before. I
don't understand why we always have to apologize when an
athlete cusses. I just always find that funny. Well, that's
why they aim of golf, right, because all the other
four letter words were taken anyway, So right, Shane, great
stuff man. Look forward to the podcast and working with
this more. Thanks so much for joining us. Always appreciative.

(30:13):
That's my man, Shane Bacon, who's outstanding at golf as
a player, as analyst, as a broadcast and of course
broadcast all kinds of other golf stuff and other stuff.
Here at first at Fox Sports, President Trump wants college
football this season. Big deal, little deal or no deal huge. Next,
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports

(30:34):
Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app
search f s R to listen live. This is game
time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Damn what you got?
All right, Doug? We have on this Monday, big deal,
little deal, no deal? Alright, big deal, little deal or

(30:57):
no deal. That President Trump tweeted in support of Clemson
quarterback Trevor Lawrence and other college football players wanting to
play today with a retweet with comments and then also
adding another treat tweet play college football? Is that a
big deal, a little deal or no deal. I think
it's a big deal. You know, like anytime you don't
have to like him, you don't have to agree with him,

(31:20):
but you will agree with these the leader of the
free world, and he put his support behind a player's
driven movement. It's a big thing. That that that's a
that's a big deal, big deal, little deal or no
deal that Nebraska head football coach Scott Frost said today
that they want to play a big, tense schedule, but
are prepared to quote look at other options well. He

(31:43):
also went on to say that they they estimate that
if uh Nebraska estimates that live between eighty two million dollars,
there's no football this season. And so what what happens
is when we say money, everybody thinks it's a bad thing.
Like look, all things are able to operate with money.
This is are that we don't live in a socialist

(32:05):
society where hey, don't worry about it. If you don't
have any money, we'll pick it. We'll pick it up
for you. We'll be able to like no, like all
these things like the stadium, you like these kids campus,
these lights, like all the lights, it's like it's like
the idea of like, hey, I gotta go to work,
I do you know, because I gotta keep the lights on.
And um, I just I don't understand why how money

(32:30):
has become a bad thing if it's the only factor
and everybody's gonna get sick and some people are gonna die,
and then okay, obviously there's but that no stat tells
you that there is some fear of some cardio vascular issues,
which is the big reason there's a noted doctor in
Cleveland who's promoting this idea that hey, there's can be

(32:53):
some major cardiovascular issues to athletes. That obviously is worthy
of a deep conversation. Um, but college football needs to
be played because of the opportunities, because a sense of normalcy,
because of the money. And yet the money, how do
you think you pay for the kids to go to
college and scholarship? How do you think you pay for

(33:15):
the stadiums that they play? And you think they pay
for the coaches and for all the two is like
it's all derived from money. Money does does pay for things?
Big deal, a little deal or no deal. That Jaguars
hold out defensive end and he can Gockway has switched agents.
That's a little deal. That's the I'm switching agents. I'm

(33:35):
blaming him for It's a smart move because any sort
of negativity, he can simply go like, hey, this is
my agent. He wasn't listening to me. But at the
end of the day, the agents only good as the client.
Big deal, a little deal or no deal? Doug. Now
that the Pelicans have been eliminated from playoff contention, forward
Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram are out tomorrow. Is both
players have right knee soreness. M m uh, no deal

(33:59):
there one, and so they're gonna shut down all those guys.
Big deal, a little deal or no deal? That Sun
center DeAndre Ayton was cleared to play today after missing
his coronavirus test Sunday, but he tested negative this morning.
It was a weird situation, with the Athletics saying that
as the game was tipping off, Aton was then cleared

(34:20):
with his positive test this morning. Is that big deal,
little deal? Negative test? Yes? Sorry, Yes, uh, it is
a big deal because you wonder where was he How
do he miss a test yesterday? Yeah, that's what I
was wondering, like, did he go fake? We need to
get the test to do the test? He what what
was it? Do you remember the Wisonator who wasn't who
got caught with the wish? Yeah, that was running back,

(34:43):
running back for the Broncos. I want to say, yeah,
I thought it was Oh my goodness, Um, I thought yeah,
I thought he played at Oregon. Um, Oh my gosh.
Was it Ontario Smith? Was that who it was? I
can't remember? Yes, it was Ontario Smith, all right. Got
the thumbs up from Ryan Music. I knew it was
somewhere in that head of mine. There's not much in there,

(35:05):
so it had to be somewhere. Big deal, A little dealer,
no deal, Doug. Finally that Marcus Stroman of the Mets
has opted out of the season without throwing a pitch
this year, was dealing with a strain calf muscle. He'll
become a free agent this winter. M hmm. Exciting COVID
nineteen reasons. That's a that's a big deal because it

(35:27):
it feels it feels very phony, right, like you're gonna
be going free agent, Like I'll just rest my arm,
collect my you know, and I already collected some checks
and be as a relief pitcher. You are so incredibly
unlikely to get this thing. It's a joke. It just
it just is. You know, you might grab the ball,

(35:47):
you know, for one inning. He is um. I still
think it's a picture. You're able to social distance yourself
every day except the day in which you pitch right
and then yes, you're touching baseball and that can be
a collector for germs or whatever. But you're not hitting,
so you don't have to sit around the team. You
can just go sit by yourself. Like the idea that

(36:09):
you're going, how are you going to get it? If
you maintain proper protocols, how are you going to get it?
This is game time. The DH has been eliminated. Okay,
I mean the player hitters. Pitchers don't hit. So when

(36:30):
you get done pitching, you can go sit all by yourself.
You can go into the dugout. You can go all
by yourself. And and I don't get it. Is it
time for a commissioner of college football? That's next to
Dug Gallup show.
Advertise With Us

Host

Doug Gottlieb

Doug Gottlieb

Popular Podcasts

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.