November 13, 2020 • 46 mins
Doug tells you why you shouldn't be fooled by the Colts big win over the Titans despite what the final score says. He also thinks the Patriots dynasty is not over yet! Plus, he talks to Former NFL Scout John Middlekauff about Carson Wentz and if the criticism he's received is fair.
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Let's get to what we saw last night. If you
look into box score, it says the Indianapolis Colts had
a twenty one point run in the second half to
take a lead in the a f C South. The
third quarter was where so much of it changed. It
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was seventeen thirteen Tennessee Titans. The Colts score with about
two minutes in fifty seconds to go at the end
of the third quarter. Name Hinz, who is at one
of their new running backs. He's had a great year.
On the subsequent possession, the Titans go three and out
and get a punt blocked by the Annapolis Colts. So again,
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if you're scoring at home, or if you're by yourself,
it goes from height to seventeen. The Colts drive all
the way down the field when they get the ball
back again after a terrible punt from the Titans and
score and that, as they say, is that that was
the ball game. This was Mike Brabel, head coach of
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the Titans, on the loss of the Colts. We have
to be better, and I'll say that in all areas.
So we'll look at what we're doing and you know,
try to do what's best for the team. We always do.
We all have jobs to do and we have to
try to do them better. Um. I think when you
when you look Philip Rivers was good last night, I'm not.
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I want to make sure that when we discussed Philip Rivers,
you understand it's like a friend of court. Like I'm
a huge Philip Rivers fan. Okay, I am staunchly in
the He is a Hall of Famer. His career is
gonna go massively underrated because a couple of playoffs. You know,
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Ladanian Thomason didn't play on a playoff game in which
he hurt his knee. Meanwhile, Philip Rivers same NFC Championship
game was playing with the tour d a c L.
You know, they had the flukey thing when they lost
the Patriots on a fourteen win season, Like they've had
a lot of things go against them that are not
the fault of Philip Rivers. That didn't allow him to
have the postseason success that Eli Manning had, And considering
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they were taking the same draft, they're often compared, and
you know, I think he's equally, if not in many ways,
a better quarterback than Eli. Eli just had those two
super Bowl championship runs. And I add to that that
while he is gonna become a high school coach whenever
he stops playing football, if he would become a broadcaster,
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he would be in the Tony Romo variety or maybe
even better, maybe even better possibly if he decided to
become a broadcaster. So I am full Philip Rivers fan.
On the other hand, I know, as a fan of
the Chargers, as somebody who knows people within the Chargers,
they had the honest belief that if they had even
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Tyrod Taylor last year as their starter, if they didn't
feel compelled to have to start Philip Rivers, they would
have been a playoff team, maybe even a super Bowl team.
Because his inefficiency, his turnovers, his lack of mobility, hurt
them in so many facets. He hurt them, he didn't
help them set you know, look, he's It was described
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to me that Philip Rivers was always a bad athlete,
then he tours a c L, then he got old.
And the trend in the NFL isn't necessarily for Lamar
Jackson types, but you have to be at least Kyle
Allen types or Josh Allen type or Pat Mahomes types
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where you can run, but you can also just he
Philip Rivers cannot move well enough for a screen pass game,
let alone to run for a first down. Okay, that
said pr was really good last night, but that's not
why they won the game. They won the game because
of the unspoken team. My son was watching the TV
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today and there was a add for the Navy. Dad,
what's the Navy do? It's like, well, the Navy's subs,
ships and airplanes. He's like, wait, the Navy flies airplanes.
The Navy and the Air Force fire airplanes. Air forces
is a little different than the Air Force is different
than the Navy, but Navy pilots and Air Force pilots
a little bit of rivalry there. It's like, okay, well,
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the Army do. It's like the Army's more kind of
ground defense, and you know they protect our ports. What
do the Marines do? They're the badasses, right, Special teams
of the Marines of the NFL. Right, first one's in,
the last one's out. They are kind of the unspoken.
They don't have as, they don't have the service academy,
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they don't have the sports team. They don't maybe have
necessarily the historic glamour. But but but but the Marines,
like you don't have the Navy Seals, you know, the
Army rangers. Marines are like, we don't need a breakaway
class of us. We're all badasses, all of us, right,
which is what special teams. Special teams are crazy people.
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It's always been crazy people. Guys are just this is
how I'm gonna make it in the league. Is I'm
gonna be a crazy person on special teams. And the
Titans special teams was a disaster. Between miss field goals,
blocked punts, shank punts, punt coverage, kickoff coverage. It was
an abject disaster. And Mike Brabel smartly bit his tongue
and said, we gotta be better in all areas. That's
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because the unspoken area was the one that let them down. Right,
don't get me wrong, coming off a Veterans Day. Army
you dudes are awesome. Navy, you guys are awesome. Air Force,
you guys are awesome. We all know that the Marines
always feel slighted coast Guards like, hey, what about us?
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I got your coast Guard, thanks for keeping us safe.
But the Marines, that's the Those guys are awesome and
the Titans. Marines let them down last night. The Titans
special teams, and it hid the fact that the Colts
still have some issues. Now. I love the fact that
they're like short yards, let's bring in Jacoby Brissette when
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we get down to the one yard line. That is
kind of the new trend in the end of if
you have a mobile, older quarterback, let's get somebody so
we can play eleven on eleven football down when we
get super super close. Makes sense, but like, let's let's
not go crazy here, you know, fourth and one. One
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of the reasons that those athletic quarterbacks are so much
harder to stop is because when you have a quarterback
who can run, it becomes a different calculus with how
you stop it. If your quarterback is Philip Rivers. It's
ten on eleven. Your quarterback is anybody else, it's eleven
on eleven. And I heard all this. Frank Reich had
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a tough night. Calm plays on fourth and one. Well,
it's a lot harder when your quarterback is completely immobile,
like what you're supposed to do on Philip Rivers and
fourth and one. He's he's slow to get the ball
back to hand it off. Let alone. You can't, not
like you run a boot, not like you can run
an r p O. You know. So the Colts won
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Philip Rivers through for three oh eight and a touchdown.
Jacoby Brissette had the two yard run. Naim Hims had
a hundred fifteen total yards two touchdowns, and uh, I
thought they did a great job of getting the ball.
Michael Pittman Jr. Who I got a chance to meet
several times here before he left for the Colts during quarantine.
He's gonna be a stud, He's gonna be a star,
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great great kid. And t Y Hilton, who how long
is t Y Hilton did with the Colts. Doesn't it
feel like there was like Reggie Wayne to t Y,
Marvin Harrison to Reggie Wayne to t Y Hilton and
I think that started a decade ago, right, So I mean,
but but when the Titans Trevor Daniel Shanks one has
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one blocked, when Stephen Gostkowski fails to execute Gostkowski mr
is a forty four yarder and a fifty yard or
earlier in the game, and you have the two bad puns.
You can tell me all you want about how the
Colts proved me wrong. And Philip Rivers is awesome, and hey,
I'll give it to I like Philip, and there are
knights in which he has it, and that last night
he had it. But three straight drives with disastrous special
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teams play when it's your up four and you have
a seven teen yard shank punt which leads the touchdown
which gives you the lead, a block punt which extends
the lead, and a miss forty four yard field goal,
that's what That's the real story of what happened in
the game. The Titans are up for they're punting a
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shanka punt, give up a touchdown, they get the ball
back and they punt and they have a block return
for a touchdown. They get the ball back, they march
a little bit down the field and they miss a
forty four yard field goal, And that, my friends, is that.
So I'm not here to defame Philip Rivers or the
Colts offense or the Colts in general. I said yesterday,
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I've said on Twitter except for a long time, I
think they're a quarterback away. And that's not being disrespectful
of rivers career, just where Rivers is now. But they
won that game because the Titans lost the game with
their special teams, and the special teams is that. It's
we talked about three phases of football. Nobody talks. We
just assume that your special teams will come through because
they're all professionals. Be sure to catch the live edition
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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. I think the Warriors dynasty will. I think
they've got a great shot of it returning. And I
also think the Patriots have a great shout at returning.
I bring up behind the music because that's what this
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reminds me of. A gentleman named Bob Pittman. I don't
know if you guys know he's actually our boss Boss.
Like when you do the pyramid or you do the
Who's at the top, He's at the top of I
Heart Media, and I Heart is a gigantic media company.
Um FM radio stations. Obviously concerts which right now you
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can't have award shows, and we're we're premier networks were
a piece of the I Heart family. Bob Bittman is
the very top and he was the creator. He was
the guy who came up with this idea back in
the day v H one Behind the Music and they
are fascinating, fascinating it's and now they're available I think
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in podcas as form as well with the if you
download the I Heart Radio Apple, you can listen to
our show as well and download our podcast and behind
the musics are all the same, and then the last
part is all different whether you're trying to either get
the band back together or reform yourself. It's like the
Beach Boys still tour. They're not the same Beach Boys,
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but they're the Beach boys. I look at I look
at the Patriots. This is what Bill Belichick said earlier
today when he was asked about the team's recent draft picks.
The most important thing to me is winning games. And
I'm not going to apologize for our record over the
last twenty years. I've seen a lot worse. So ultimately,
try to put the best team on the field that
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we can to be competitive, and I don't really see
that changing. So whoever those players are aren't. That's the
responsibility I feel to the team is the competition plays
itself out and the better players play whoever they are. Yeah,
it's it's pretty interesting, you know, Like Kyle Dugger has
who is a second round pick of him, p absolutely
love and I think part of um, you know, you know,
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part of what they've been able to do is they've
been they gotta I think the guard they have is
Michael on waynu As, a kid from Michigan who's playing
a ton for them, you know. And you you go
back to previous drafts and everybody points out that Nikkill
Harry was bad last year as a rookie, and you
see how many rookie wide receivers are having a big
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impact this year. Harry has been better this year. But
it's like we don't give them any credit. Isaiah wind
was a tackle they took at the twenty three spot
and he's been outstanding. They've drafted well in the our
interior lines. They just no team can sustain the number.
First of all, they had eight opt outs. We have
no idea what the Patriots would look like if they
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didn't have those opt outs. You know they had in
the conversation of the best defense in the league last year.
They struggle with Lamar Jackson with that style, but outside
of that, they the the defense kept them in games.
It was the offense and the skill position players. And
they drafted well in the line, you know, two of
the last three years. And yes, they would be better
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if they had Quite honestly, they would be better if
they had Tom Brady. I think. I don't think any
anybody would argue otherwise. But they're right there. They're going
to have I think the third most cap space in
the upcoming off season. Uh, my guests would be not
only will they have their first high draft pick. It's
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not just that they didn't draft high in the first round.
I go go back and look, and I know they've
traded out of first round picks. But like people want
to say, oh, well to kill Harry like he was
the thirty second pick of the draft. Would you rather
have DK Metcalf. Sure, sure, absolutely DK Metcalf. But everybody
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missed on DK Metcalf. Everybody thought he was David Boston,
you know that look good in the mirror flexing, but
was too stiff in the hips. People missed on him
and Nikkill Harry is not as good as DK Metcalf.
Now he does have I think, uh, he's having a
good he's having a decent year this year with nineteen
catches already in one touchdown reception, and he's playing in
an offense where you don't have a quarterback who's storing
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times a game the way that some other guys have them.
But when you draft at the bottom of every round
of the draft for two decades, yeah, you're draft is
a little bit harder. You know, you have a little
bit harder. So I look at it and think it's
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so much better for them to be bad. And the
competitiveness of Bill Belichick gets the best of them. They
beat the Jets on Monday night, and they probably shouldn't
have beaten the Jets on Monday night in order to help.
But they're gonna have money to spend. They'll have draft picks,
and they've actually drafted pretty well on their interior lines
both offensive defense and I don't know what happens with
Dante Hie Tower with Patrick Chung, but when if they return,
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that's a good defense again. So what with the era?
The Brady era of the dynasty is quite obviously over.
But the difference in other dynasties like the Spurs. Like
the Spurs, Tim Duncan retire, mountag nobly retired, Tony Parker retired,
and obviously Quiet Letard wanting out. But the thing that's
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gonna hurt the Spurs probably the most is at some
point Great Pop Fitch is gonna retire. You know what
led to the Cowboys downfall? Yes, the concussions to Michael Irvin,
the concussions to Troy Aikman, but also the coaching change
where parsity where where Um Jimmy Johnson couldn't take it
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and so he only won two of the three championships.
The coaching, the leadership absolutely matters. I mean, that's what
happened in San Francisco. George Seifert was a really good coach,
brilliant guy. It was not Bill Walsh, who's widely considered
along with Bill Parcels those the two greatest coaches before
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Bill Belichick in the history of modern football. If you
have the same coach, if you have the right leadership,
if you have the right plan, you can rebuild it.
That's what the Warriors are planning on. They had a
year to press reset, but they kept Steve Kerr and
they kept their core and they'll try and figure out
everything else around it. And look, it ain't easy to
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find another star quarterback the Dolphins. If two is the guy,
it's been since that they've been searching. That is thirty
years since Dan Marino. Right the Bills and Josh Allen.
This is the first guy who gives them true hope
since Jim Kelly again early nineties. We're talking twenty five years,
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and they were a dynamic offense. It's hard to find
a dude like what the Packers have done. Most people
can't do. I mean, how the Bears haven't had Jim
McMahon was was the the ego and the personality was big,
but it wasn't like an all time great quarterback. Bears
have never had one. Ever. Go back and look, Bears
fans like, you know, you're right, sucks. You know. Cutler
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had freaky talent, just nobody liked him. That's part of it.
Life is a little bit of a popularity contest. You know,
the Vikings have had talented quarterbacks Rando Cunningham and Dante
called Pepper, and you know you kind of go back
through kind of the list nail some Warren Moon. They've
had lots of guys that were really good. They've always
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had kind of missing something. Part of it is our
arch rival has had the superstar quarterback, and they've had
good quarterbacks. That's really the difference in the Vikings and
the Packers. So I dynasties are interesting, and yes that
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part of the Patriots dynasty is over, but I I mean, look,
Bill Belichick finds a way to win games. He's found
a way to get guys off the scrap heap. He's
drafted better outside of wide receiver than he's given credit for.
So just to guess, I don't think the dynasty is over.
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I think this is a pause and a reboot. The
Ravens went through it when um when uh am I
forgetting he joined us? Sometimes No, and I'm Bill the Ravens,
Brian Billick, Brian Billick, When Brian Billick they were capped
out and they kind of shed that roster after the
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two thousand team, and the problem was they selected the
wrong quarterback and they hadn't been able to kind of
get out of it. But leadership in the front office,
leadership in the coaching staff, that's what allows you to
hang around for a long time. Those great football guys
are great football guys, and they just kind of figure
it out. That's what Ozzie Newsome is the reason that
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the Ravens were so good for so long. Bill Belichick
is the reason, the biggest reason the Patriots are so
good for so long. Yes, and Tom Brady and I
think when that leadership remains, you've got a great shout
of rebuild that thing. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific. So let me get to John middlecof
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who joins us. John is a degenerate gambler and a
former I'm kidding well sort of, uh, former NFL scout,
of course, hosted three and Out podcast and he heard
podcast network. Who did you like today in the Daily Gulf.
I'm gonna go with Dustin. I think Dustin is poised
to to win the tournament and degenerate gambler would be strong.
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A gambler would be I think a fair way. Have
you ever been on a preseason support event? I'm not
women's sporting event? Uh no, okay, okay, uh wait, wait
when you go when you go to Vegas? Are you
somebody who tells yourself, I'm walking away and all you
do is walk back to the A T M. I've
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gotten a lot better as I've gotten I mean in
my twenties, for sure. I mean now you know, as
you mature in your thirty seven to take something out
of the A T M. Okay, sure, I'll do that. Well.
The first time you learn what a what a cash
advance from your credit card is usually in your early twenties,
when you have no money. Yeah, okay, so you you
like you like DJ thoughts on Tiger He's yesterday he
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was a picture of consistency, no no bogies. Right now
he's in the sand. It's fastening. Of all the sporting
events to watch, of all the people to watch, Tiger
Woods with no gallery is probably the most fastating, right
because you always wonder does it help him, does it
hurt him? Does it help his opponents? Does it hurt
it because there's nothing like a Tiger roar by the
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way pretty good out out of that of that sand.
He's got a shot for for par um like when
when you're watching Tiger thing. Yeah, I mean I I've
seen him live several times even uh several times in
his peak like pre two thousand eight. Uh, I'd say
Thursday and Friday at an event like this has that
has little to no impact, but like last year Saturday Sunday,
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it has a massive impact. So if he's in the mix,
I think Phil Mickelson would be a guy too. I mean,
those guys are beloved at this place, and if you
have eight championships between the two of them, uh, it
would help them out a lot. And I think it
really benefits And you saw it when Harding Park the
PGA Championship, Mark Cowell wanted he didn't make the cut
and he's not going to is to meet the young guys.
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There is a pressure. I don't care in what sport
you play when you have people looking at you. You know,
you can say, oh, they're ten million people watching, yeah,
but you don't feel it that there's something about the
people staring right at you, especially in golf when they're
literally right there and the Masters. You know, I've never
been there, but it's got to be an eerie feeling
if you're a young player in the mix comes Saturday
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and Sunday and a guy like Tigers on the Prowl
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sport Trail. Let's get
the football. Um. Look, I thought Philip Rivers played well
last night, but that was the collapse of the Titans
Special teams. Uh it was. It was almost Chargers like right, Like,
I mean, you got shank punt touchdown, block punt touchdown,
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missfield goal touchdown, game over. I don't want to take
away from Philip Rivers playing well after all of us,
you know, declaring him dead as a quarterback, But the
story was the Titan special teams, was it not? Yeah?
I completely agree. I mean, I just think the when
you look at the two teams, the Cult's identity of
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just being a lights out defense and that front seven
right there with Tampa probably the best in the league,
is just going to translate to every game. So when
they're on and then the special teams make plays. As
long as Philip doesn't throw a pick, they're gonna beat
most people. They play. I think the problem you see
with Indie is like if they win the division and
you know it's like they played. I know they won
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that game. You know you look at the final score
it did. It wasn't quite I wouldn't call it a
blowout really till the you know one special teams kind
of took over. I just think they're ceiling is so
limited because how are they going to score with Philip,
especially if they have to play outdoor games, you know
that past the first round because their team, if they
had peak Philip rivers just like five or six years ago,
or hell, just the way he was playing. Remember when
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they upset the Chiefs on that Thursday night, they would
be you know, a legitimate I think Super Bowl contender.
But I it's just hard for me to trust him
in his arm as the season goes on, because I
do think they are. They're definitely better than Tennessee. I mean,
Tennessee just has their secondaries terrible uh clowney kind of
tries when they're when they're playing in prime time. But
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other than that, he disappears. They're very dependent on Henry.
Like Henry had a good game. Look at the box,
Scory had over a hundred yards, But a hundred yard
doesn't do it for them. They need like a hundred
seventy to be good right, And in tanney Hill when
he's off, they they really have no chance. I've decided
here's what I decided about running back long term second contracts.
It's it's the guy, the guy who convinces themselves that
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they that they did the right thing giving Christian McCaffrey
the money, and I thought it was the right thing
at the time. Um was is the guy convincing themselves
that I have the one car that's not going to
depreciate as an asset. Everybody else has cars that depreciate,
but not my car. You know, I bought it. I
bought it pre owned. I bought it pre owned some
somebody already, somebody already drove some of that cost off
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and I got a deal on it. I got a
demo car, so it's seven thousand less than than Sticker.
I somehow I have smarted people when the truth is,
everybody knows it. Even Dalvin Cook, as good as he is,
like it'll fade too quickly or he'll get hurt, because
that's what happens with all of them. I think the
hardest part is is when you're living in it and
you've drafted him and you're around the guy, you go, God,
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the guy so would because like their second third year
is kind of sometimes the peak of these guys NFL lives.
The problem is they take so many hits in that position.
You know, sometimes either the fourth or the fifth year,
you saw it was Zeke, you just fall off a cliff. Now,
I think you'd look and go, well, Kamara and Cook
are fantastic, and right now in the moment, that's true,
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but we've seen Cook be banged up before. Alvin is
just a smaller player. So luckily they use them really
more in the receiving game than they do as a
true between the tackles running back. But if either one
of those guys gets hurt over the next twenty games,
it's crippling, and especially because you can their backup can
just function to somewhat of a level. We've seen it
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before with Cook and the kid. They have the backup
the boys steak Guy Madson, so I you know, McCaffrey's
already banged up, Zeke's falling off a cliff. Running Back
is probably my favorite position beside quarterback. I just think
it encompasses everything in the sport. Blocking you gotta run
between outside the tackles. Now you've got to catch the football.
It literally asks everything of a player. So I have
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nothing but respect for the position. But man, it's just
most teams. I'd say, basically every team in recent memory
has got burned immediately. And yeah, it feels like the
moment you signed the contract, the diminishing returns and you
lose the value pretty quickly. Doug Olive Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. John middle Coff is our guest. Three
out is the podcast. Let me play for you what
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Lamar Jackson said. So, Lamar Jackson was on the Rich
Eisen Show, Okay and Richards and and one of the
things I defended Lamar about is generally he said the
right thing at every press conference, in every interview, and
and he said this to rich Eyes and take a listen.
I feel, Um, you know, it's it's a lot of
it's a lot of with schemes. You know, we're going
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to get his defenses. Um they calling out out of
police stuff like that, like you know, doing so a
lot of that. You know, sometimes you know, stuff won't
go away. So you're you're hearing on the other side
of the line of scrimmage the defense calling out your
place like run stuff like that. That sometimes that's what's
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going on. What are your thoughts? I think it is
just so much easier as a defensive schemer, if I'm
a defensive coordinator, the more and more information is is
historically true, especially with this coordinator, to figure out the
run game, because there are only so many options in
the run game. Right, you're either run an off tackle left,
off tackle right, and with them they run kind of
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that outside kind of option type play and you can
run it up the middle like you're You're kind of
limited once you give it to the running back. You
can only do so much. Where if I'm playing Sean
Payton or Andy Reid and it's a very passing game
oriented operation or Seattle, there's so many different routes and
there are three or four players running those routes, so
you might know one guy's route, but you're not going
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to know everyone. The run game, to me is easier
to predict. I I think what he's saying is kind
of honest. We have a running based offense. I mean,
he didn't say that, but we all know it's true.
And these guys know our run game. Oh they go,
I dare you to be like, we know what gaps?
To fill the more and more information I have on
a team that runs, you know, running based offense, I'm
gonna plug those gaps and force you to pass because
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no matter how much I study in the passing game,
I'm still gonna be pretty much reacting to a lot
of the passing game. Look at Andy Reid, He's been
quote unquote running the passing game for twenty plus years.
He could constantly constantly throw different wrinkles in there. What
can you really do in the run game, right? I mean,
there's there's only so much, but but there's there's a
couple of different levels to it, okay, And and there's
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the let's the reality of two twenty is And I
talked to an NFL GM last week and he's like, look,
I think it's way these One of the reasons the
rookie quarterbacks are doing better is that you don't have
the crowds, right, And a lot of these rookies like
they can they can hear the calls, they can hear
the audibles. You can yell to him from the sidelines,
you can coach him better, like it's the assimilation is easier.
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So I do think that some of some of what
he's saying is just the reality of they're probably always
been yelling out what they think he's doing. Now you
can just hear it better. But that there there's a
certain lack of accountability to it, right, Like I gotta
be better, they gotta they think they know what we're doing.
I gotta look to to audibilize and get out of
it if I think they know what they're doing. It
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feels like what he's saying is, hey, our scheme is
too simple and it's not my fault that we can't
be as good an offense as we used to be,
and Greg Roman's gotta fix figure out how to not
be so simple. That's what it feels like to me,
where he's always said the right thing instead of Hey,
I just gotta get better. I gotta figure it out.
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We gotta get better as a team. Again. I know
that's more of the cliche thing, but isn't there a
little bit of lacking accountability there? Yeah? I mean, let's
just called spade a spade. What he should be saying
is my limitations in the passing game limit what we
can run. All right, don't you think that Greg Roman
would would run a more diverse passing offense if you
think his quarter thought his quarterback could run a more
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diverse passing offense. Well, if people forget now, but back
in two thousand and definitely two tho teams he tried
to go. They tried to go spread, you know, like
you would see what the Chiefs do. What Saints do
you know, four or five wide? And they could not
do it. Yeah, and I think it's fair to say
now Lamar the difference, Like, Lamar is probably more accurate
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than Colins, but he doesn't have him as explosive as
an arm and I just don't think they think he
can run that. Plus his best actual by far is
running around. And this gets back to what probably guys
like me and you said two and a half three
years ago that like, I just bet against this guy,
this type player. Now, in the short term, last year,
it's like, yeah, he won the m v P, but
then what happened in the first round of the playoffs.
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He got throttled because they take away the run force.
In the past, and every good team and big game
he's played lately, they have no shot and just big picture.
Now their offense is just regressing because even the average
defenses now can the run game scheme and the run
game film. Like once you get twenty plus games of
what you're doing, you can only do so much. Like
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once you hand it to Ingram or Dobbins, he's either
going left or right. But if you've got three for
wide receivers, it's so much easier to keep him off balance.
But the reality is, can Lamar do that? Because I
would seem like the coaches don't believe you can, right, Yeah,
I tend to believe now like they would. They're trying
to put him in a position to succeed. Um, and
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it's a it's a Lamar thing now running quarterbacks like
Kyler's running quarterback. They spread it out and thrown around
right at the lebron or it's a Lamar specific thing. Yes,
Doug Gotli show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, I
used to work at the other place for a long
time at Cheerios. I think it's corn flakes, which I
don't know anyway, Well, we'll look at the expression. Is
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they keep trying to run Carson, Like, tell me Carson
Wentz thinks, and I did he played poorly at times
early the season. Yes, I think he's played pretty well,
and especially considering who he's playing with. You watch tape
differently as a guy who's been in this league. What
do you see when you see Carson Wentz right now? Yeah,
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I mean, I think people just so live in the moment.
I mean, he's had some bad games, and he's definitely
had some bad moments. I mean his turnovers. He had
a stretch there, I mean still up until like last
week where it was just a little out of control.
But part of it was like he's playing with the
full line of backups. Every like week it gets tweeted
out all of the starters, you know, when when the
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season started, all crossed out into all the backups on
the field. I think I heard someone on Coward Show
the last couple of weeks. The leading one of the
leading receivers in the league since week four is that
Fulghum guy. I I do this for a living. I
had never heard of the guy. Well, of course now
he's from Old Dominion. So the guys they were depending
on al Seandshan zach Ertz. These guys have all been
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injured and not even on the field. Even there running
back they drafted last year in the second round has
been injured. Now, does he kind of take on the
hero ball syndrome too much? For sure? But but I
also think that comes with the territory. When you're playing
with three or four practice squad guys like that, when
I pay you thirty million dollars, sometimes you gotta be
a hero. And it just hasn't worked, and he's made
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some poor throws. But sometimes when a guy throws a
pick for us sitting on the couch, we just got
it's quarterback man, and the coach the next day I
will tell you well that that was on the wide receiver.
He ran the rount. We practiced this. The guy went
to the wrong spot. So it's it's easy to say,
you know, it's always on the quarterback when that's just
not true. I also think people just need to take
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a step back, take a deep breath. Like the majority
of the league would take the guy in a heartbeat. Uh,
you know, he's just he's a younger quote unquote player,
you know, just in terms of experience, he was only
what a two year starter in college. Remember he got injured,
so he didn't even play really that much of a
senior year, and then he's had multiple injuries in the pros.
That's kind of limited his time. Like it's not like
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he's been playing like he's like a ten year starter.
I mean, look at Philip Rivers a good example, like
seven eight years into his career. Remember he had that
terrible stretch. Like guys have rough stretches for whatever reason.
Sometimes it's on them, sometimes on their teammates. I would
not like sell my stock in Carson Wentz. Now do
I think it's like, uh, when I put it in concrete,
the guys just headed the Hall of Fame? Probably not,
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But I think he can be a really good player
in this league still for a while. Really quickly, let
me put in your scout hat um d j uga
lay the kid from Clemson who's the freshman, Like, look,
I love Trevor Lawrence. Everybody says he's the next Andrew
Luck And you and I were texting during a game
like are we sure we love Andrew Trevor Lawrence. Then
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he made a couple of throws like okay, my bad,
sorry about that middle cough Just just okay. But when
when you see DJ play. What are your thoughts on
him as a prospect. Yeah, I mean just elite. I
mean I mean, unless something screws up, which I don't
see how it's gonna happen. In that program, he's gonna
be the number one overall pick, you know, in two
or three years whenever he chooses the earliest he can
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come out, if that's what he so chooses. I mean,
he's like, you know, he looks like Big Ben already
and he's eighteen years old. His arm is a Howitzer, right,
I mean you text me like, what's up with Trevor Lawrence?
Because sometimes his arm You're like, uh, I don't really
see it, and I'm with you, But this the guy
when he let it rip, You're like, my god, you know,
I mean, this guy is a five. You know, this
guy was a basketball player we hed bes Ion right
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or a d or just who you know whoever that
guy would be? Right? Does does his does his dad?
Because I heard this about I heard this U about
ta where you know, when you're Hawaiian or when you're Simoan,
like those are big bone dudes, right, big bone dudes?
Does does that give you pause at all? In terms
of what he'll look like when he's yeah, I mean
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it has to a little bit because often those guys,
especially you know the police, the Islanders, tend to play
on the lines, so you don't usually see the quarterback.
And when you meet to and I know you did
the Super Bowl, his body type doesn't look like this guy's.
He looks much more like a normal guy to me.
The DJ one kind of remember that Zion conversations like
this guy gotta be too big. He has a little
bit of that. Now. I do think these guys are
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so locked in with eating and training in football. It's
so regimented like that there especially you know for six
months of the year that you feel pretty good about it.
I mean how big band head years when he was
totally and big Ben is a massive guy, and you
know who else is bigger than people I think realize,
like in the Hips and just Mahomes like Mahomes, there's
a miked up he was miked up a couple of
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weeks ago, whatever, And there's some times in which he's
running and if you really look at his body type
of like damn, you forget how big a fella he is.
And he's a really mean Russell and Kyler are tiny
little fellas in comparison, these are giants of men, and
I tend to agree with you. All right, well, we
will have some sort of college football to watch, a
ton of pro football to watch. I love the podcast,
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and uh, we'll see if your guy DJ puts you
in the money. You're not a degenerate. You just you
enjoy the competitiveness of it. Thanks so much for joining us.
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five for five I want, Well, we got it five
NFL five College. It's five for five with Doug Gottli.
Let's go five Doug Ottlives show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
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All right, let's start in the pros. We will back
back in our way to college. Fair enough. Uh. The
Washington football team is one and two on the road
this season against the spread there thirty points per game. Now,
the Lions are hard team to figure out. They could
not stop the running game of the Minnesota Vikings last week.
After winning a couple of games previous to that. I
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think the Lions bounce back. I do you know Lions?
Last week they had a lot of questions about Remember
Stafford went into COVID protocol. Was gonna play? Was not
gonna play? They know who's playing this weekend barring some
sort of late notice. I like the Lions even though
they're laying four and a half. Did you guys know
the Texans are one and seven against the spread this season,
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that's second worst in the NFL. The Browns actually have
the fourth best red zone offense and Houston defense is
points per game And the big stat is on third down, Right, Like,
forget your traditional stats. How many yards you give up,
it doesn't matter to people anymore. What matters is how
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many points do you give up? And what do you
do on third down? Can you get off the football field?
There in the league in getting out the football field,
Browns at home, running the football, healthy backfield, Jimmy Browns.
The Bills are traveling Arizona take on the Cardinals, and well,
Carlin's were good last week, right times, But I look
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at the Cardinals and I see those flaws on the
defensive side of the ball, and it kind of jumps
out at me that I look this Cardinals teams a
two and a half point favorite. Would I love it?
Would I love it if the Cardinals, uh, we're a
three or three and a half point favorite? Sure, right,
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like they can win and three in a hook. But
remember the Cardinals lost at home last week to the Dolphins.
They needed three interceptions and still had to hold off
the Seahawks win by three. The other wins on the
year Niners first game of the year. We kind of
throw that one out, Washington Jets, Cowboys three the worst
teams the league, especially when they played the Cowboys. So
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I'm not as bullish on the Cardinals overall. I love
Kyler DeAndre Hopkins, I like parts of that offense skill.
I'm not as bullish and the Cardinals as other people
are because so many of those wins are against bad teams.
The Bills, on the other hand, there's seven and two
on the season. They have a win over the Raiders.
They gotta win over the Rams. They gotta also win
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over the Seahawks, just like the Cardinals too. They gotta
win over the Patriots, which doesn't seem like a lot,
but remember the Patriots have been their nemesis in the
a f C. East, So I'm bigger believer there. Did
you guys see the Josh Allen's completed his passes for
almost nine yards per attempt during this winning streak, Bill's
defenses outstanding third and takeaways. I like the Bills to
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go on the road straight up to get the upset.
As an under dog. Patriots are taking on the Ravens. Now,
that's something interesting because it's the Patriots second time around
seeing the Lamar Jackson offense. Last year he torched him.
And I'm concerned about the Patriots speed on defense versus
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the Ravens. But I think I'm equally concerned about the
Patriots offense right now. It is. I know they won
last week, but they did so uh with Cam Newton
playing Pete, Cam Newton having to come you when you
gotta come from that many down late to beat the Jets,
what are you gonna do against the Ravens. Patriots are
three and five against to spread the twenty points per game.
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Ravens defense is legit. They're gonna force you to make plays, blitzing,
playing man a man, and I just don't think that
they have the speed that the Chief, for example, had.
I I like the Ravens to win and the Ravens
to cover. Um, I'm gonna just keep I'm keep doing
this until ultimately they win a game. Charles, the Charges
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of two and a half point dogs. They seem to
get leads and find inventive ways to lose games. They
actually have the six best passing offense right now and
Justin Herbert in the last four weeks thirteen touchdown passes
over three yards passing per game. I think the Dolphins,
who just beat the Cardinals on the road, come home
and lose at home to the Chargers. No real home
field advantage. You know that piercing sun at Dolphin Stadium
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on the sideline and if you guys know, it's like
like ants under a magnifying glass when you're on the
visiting sideline. The weather is not now, we're in the fall.
It actually feels good. It does. It's not like early
in the year and it's Chargers. I don't think the
sun he affects them. I like the Chargers to win.
I like them to beat the Dolphins. I think they're
actually a pretty good club. And uh, it's not that
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I have I think two of stincts. I just again
haven't been blown away. I think these singles and doubles.
All right, So you got the Lions, the Browns, Builds,
the Ravens, and yes, I'm gonna pick the Chargers to
actually win a football game. Let us get to the
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college game, all right. Disclaimer, who knows that they're gonna happen? Right? Like?
Legitimately think even if they get on the plane, it's
not until they land, you know, it's not not until
they land. Um, here's one that doesn't make a ton
of sense to me, right Like Virginia texts best player
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opted out for the season, and they've had an up
and down year, Whereas Miami, the only time that they looked,
uh beat a ball at all was when Derrick King
was terrible against Clemson. Did you guys see what Derrick
King did last week against NC State? Five touchdowns known receptions.
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I just I think he's the best player on the field.
I don't know why they're underdogs. I know I'm supposed
to say, hey, Vegas knows more than you. Gottlieb and
I generally agree Vegas does no more than me. But
when you have the best player on the field and
he's the quarterback and you're not Clemson to force him
into mistakes, Virginia Tech being at two point dog. I
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like Miami. There's no fans there in Lane Stadium. I
like Miami to win the game. Uh. We've talked a
lot about Indiana football. They appear to be the real deal.
They beat the hell out of Michigan last week. They
beat in Penn State, they beat Rutgers. Michigan State also
beat Michigan. Right, so you have the common opponent. Indiana
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is a seven and a half point dog. Let's just
ride the Indiana way, right, Let's just we'll ride it
plus seven half point favorite. Plus. You know, a guy
came on my show, so we'll do We'll do that one.
We'll do that. Um, Are any of these other games
definitely happening? Like is Wisconsin definitely happening against Michigan? I
think so? I think so, And I like Jim Leonard's defense.
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Their four and a half point favorites. But I got
to go to the well and go Michigan circling the
wagons at home. Two embarrassing losses in a row. Blown
out by Indiana, beaten at home by Michigan State. I'm
I think Jim Harball wins this game there four and
a half point Dogs at home. Give me me chagain.
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Notre Dame taken on Boston College. Uh, the guy who
built my house in Canon, Connecticut was actually the kicker
when they upset Notre Dame back in. Let you guys
know that. Anyway, this kind of anniversary game, and the
big question is Notre Dame. Can they uh can they
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deal with the success that they had last week beating
a Clemson. Now, I don't think this is a classic
great Notre Dame team, and I think Boston College is really,
really well coached. I'm gonna take Boston College to keep
it close there at twelve point dog, Notre Dame celebrates
a double overtime was a triple overtime win, whatever it was,
double overtime win, I'll take. I'll take Boston College in
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that big number. All right, everything else essentially canceled, but
I'm gonna go one more here, one more. Northwestern taken
on Perdue. Perdue's best player as our best wide receiver
has not played so far this year, and yet Perdue
two and oh. Because of it, Northwestern has been the
surprise team of the Big Ten at two and oh.
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But Perdue playing at home. Uh. I think Bram has
a good quarterback in Aidan O'Connell, Xander Horvath one yards
rushing on this young season, and David Bell. If you
haven't seen David Bell play, that does a talented talented
wide receiver. Six too, Uh, six to two oh five.
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I like Perdue to win at home. I know that
home field advantage is not supposed to be that big
at advantage, but it's pretty obvious. I think it will
be one. So what do we got? We got Perdue,
we got Boston College, we got Michigan. Uh, those are
all home teams. We got Indiana as a road favorite,
winning and covering, and we got Miami as a road dog,
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winning and covering. There's your five for five five there
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Let's get to what we saw last night. If you
look into box score, it says the Indianapolis Colts had
a twenty one point run in the second half to
take a lead in the a f C South. The
third quarter was where so much of it changed. It
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was seventeen thirteen Tennessee Titans. The Colts score with about
two minutes in fifty seconds to go at the end
of the third quarter. Name Hinz, who is at one
of their new running backs. He's had a great year.
On the subsequent possession, the Titans go three and out
and get a punt blocked by the Annapolis Colts. So again,
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if you're scoring at home, or if you're by yourself,
it goes from height to seventeen. The Colts drive all
the way down the field when they get the ball
back again after a terrible punt from the Titans and
score and that, as they say, is that that was
the ball game. This was Mike Brabel, head coach of
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the Titans, on the loss of the Colts. We have
to be better, and I'll say that in all areas.
So we'll look at what we're doing and you know,
try to do what's best for the team. We always do.
We all have jobs to do and we have to
try to do them better. Um. I think when you
when you look Philip Rivers was good last night, I'm not.
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I want to make sure that when we discussed Philip Rivers,
you understand it's like a friend of court. Like I'm
a huge Philip Rivers fan. Okay, I am staunchly in
the He is a Hall of Famer. His career is
gonna go massively underrated because a couple of playoffs. You know,
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Ladanian Thomason didn't play on a playoff game in which
he hurt his knee. Meanwhile, Philip Rivers same NFC Championship
game was playing with the tour d a c L.
You know, they had the flukey thing when they lost
the Patriots on a fourteen win season, Like they've had
a lot of things go against them that are not
the fault of Philip Rivers. That didn't allow him to
have the postseason success that Eli Manning had, And considering
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they were taking the same draft, they're often compared, and
you know, I think he's equally, if not in many ways,
a better quarterback than Eli. Eli just had those two
super Bowl championship runs. And I add to that that
while he is gonna become a high school coach whenever
he stops playing football, if he would become a broadcaster,
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he would be in the Tony Romo variety or maybe
even better, maybe even better possibly if he decided to
become a broadcaster. So I am full Philip Rivers fan.
On the other hand, I know, as a fan of
the Chargers, as somebody who knows people within the Chargers,
they had the honest belief that if they had even
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Tyrod Taylor last year as their starter, if they didn't
feel compelled to have to start Philip Rivers, they would
have been a playoff team, maybe even a super Bowl team.
Because his inefficiency, his turnovers, his lack of mobility, hurt
them in so many facets. He hurt them, he didn't
help them set you know, look, he's It was described
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to me that Philip Rivers was always a bad athlete,
then he tours a c L, then he got old.
And the trend in the NFL isn't necessarily for Lamar
Jackson types, but you have to be at least Kyle
Allen types or Josh Allen type or Pat Mahomes types
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where you can run, but you can also just he
Philip Rivers cannot move well enough for a screen pass game,
let alone to run for a first down. Okay, that
said pr was really good last night, but that's not
why they won the game. They won the game because
of the unspoken team. My son was watching the TV
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today and there was a add for the Navy. Dad,
what's the Navy do? It's like, well, the Navy's subs,
ships and airplanes. He's like, wait, the Navy flies airplanes.
The Navy and the Air Force fire airplanes. Air forces
is a little different than the Air Force is different
than the Navy, but Navy pilots and Air Force pilots
a little bit of rivalry there. It's like, okay, well,
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the Army do. It's like the Army's more kind of
ground defense, and you know they protect our ports. What
do the Marines do? They're the badasses, right, Special teams
of the Marines of the NFL. Right, first one's in,
the last one's out. They are kind of the unspoken.
They don't have as, they don't have the service academy,
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they don't have the sports team. They don't maybe have
necessarily the historic glamour. But but but but the Marines,
like you don't have the Navy Seals, you know, the
Army rangers. Marines are like, we don't need a breakaway
class of us. We're all badasses, all of us, right,
which is what special teams. Special teams are crazy people.
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It's always been crazy people. Guys are just this is
how I'm gonna make it in the league. Is I'm
gonna be a crazy person on special teams. And the
Titans special teams was a disaster. Between miss field goals,
blocked punts, shank punts, punt coverage, kickoff coverage. It was
an abject disaster. And Mike Brabel smartly bit his tongue
and said, we gotta be better in all areas. That's
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because the unspoken area was the one that let them down. Right,
don't get me wrong, coming off a Veterans Day. Army
you dudes are awesome. Navy, you guys are awesome. Air Force,
you guys are awesome. We all know that the Marines
always feel slighted coast Guards like, hey, what about us?
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I got your coast Guard, thanks for keeping us safe.
But the Marines, that's the Those guys are awesome and
the Titans. Marines let them down last night. The Titans
special teams, and it hid the fact that the Colts
still have some issues. Now. I love the fact that
they're like short yards, let's bring in Jacoby Brissette when
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we get down to the one yard line. That is
kind of the new trend in the end of if
you have a mobile, older quarterback, let's get somebody so
we can play eleven on eleven football down when we
get super super close. Makes sense, but like, let's let's
not go crazy here, you know, fourth and one. One
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of the reasons that those athletic quarterbacks are so much
harder to stop is because when you have a quarterback
who can run, it becomes a different calculus with how
you stop it. If your quarterback is Philip Rivers. It's
ten on eleven. Your quarterback is anybody else, it's eleven
on eleven. And I heard all this. Frank Reich had
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a tough night. Calm plays on fourth and one. Well,
it's a lot harder when your quarterback is completely immobile,
like what you're supposed to do on Philip Rivers and
fourth and one. He's he's slow to get the ball
back to hand it off. Let alone. You can't, not
like you run a boot, not like you can run
an r p O. You know. So the Colts won
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Philip Rivers through for three oh eight and a touchdown.
Jacoby Brissette had the two yard run. Naim Hims had
a hundred fifteen total yards two touchdowns, and uh, I
thought they did a great job of getting the ball.
Michael Pittman Jr. Who I got a chance to meet
several times here before he left for the Colts during quarantine.
He's gonna be a stud, He's gonna be a star,
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great great kid. And t Y Hilton, who how long
is t Y Hilton did with the Colts. Doesn't it
feel like there was like Reggie Wayne to t Y,
Marvin Harrison to Reggie Wayne to t Y Hilton and
I think that started a decade ago, right, So I mean,
but but when the Titans Trevor Daniel Shanks one has
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one blocked, when Stephen Gostkowski fails to execute Gostkowski mr
is a forty four yarder and a fifty yard or
earlier in the game, and you have the two bad puns.
You can tell me all you want about how the
Colts proved me wrong. And Philip Rivers is awesome, and hey,
I'll give it to I like Philip, and there are
knights in which he has it, and that last night
he had it. But three straight drives with disastrous special
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teams play when it's your up four and you have
a seven teen yard shank punt which leads the touchdown
which gives you the lead, a block punt which extends
the lead, and a miss forty four yard field goal,
that's what That's the real story of what happened in
the game. The Titans are up for they're punting a
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shanka punt, give up a touchdown, they get the ball
back and they punt and they have a block return
for a touchdown. They get the ball back, they march
a little bit down the field and they miss a
forty four yard field goal, And that, my friends, is that.
So I'm not here to defame Philip Rivers or the
Colts offense or the Colts in general. I said yesterday,
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I've said on Twitter except for a long time, I
think they're a quarterback away. And that's not being disrespectful
of rivers career, just where Rivers is now. But they
won that game because the Titans lost the game with
their special teams, and the special teams is that. It's
we talked about three phases of football. Nobody talks. We
just assume that your special teams will come through because
they're all professionals. Be sure to catch the live edition
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they've got a great shot of it returning. And I
also think the Patriots have a great shout at returning.
I bring up behind the music because that's what this
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reminds me of. A gentleman named Bob Pittman. I don't
know if you guys know he's actually our boss Boss.
Like when you do the pyramid or you do the
Who's at the top, He's at the top of I
Heart Media, and I Heart is a gigantic media company.
Um FM radio stations. Obviously concerts which right now you
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can't have award shows, and we're we're premier networks were
a piece of the I Heart family. Bob Bittman is
the very top and he was the creator. He was
the guy who came up with this idea back in
the day v H one Behind the Music and they
are fascinating, fascinating it's and now they're available I think
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in podcas as form as well with the if you
download the I Heart Radio Apple, you can listen to
our show as well and download our podcast and behind
the musics are all the same, and then the last
part is all different whether you're trying to either get
the band back together or reform yourself. It's like the
Beach Boys still tour. They're not the same Beach Boys,
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but they're the Beach boys. I look at I look
at the Patriots. This is what Bill Belichick said earlier
today when he was asked about the team's recent draft picks.
The most important thing to me is winning games. And
I'm not going to apologize for our record over the
last twenty years. I've seen a lot worse. So ultimately,
try to put the best team on the field that
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we can to be competitive, and I don't really see
that changing. So whoever those players are aren't. That's the
responsibility I feel to the team is the competition plays
itself out and the better players play whoever they are. Yeah,
it's it's pretty interesting, you know, Like Kyle Dugger has
who is a second round pick of him, p absolutely
love and I think part of um, you know, you know,
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part of what they've been able to do is they've
been they gotta I think the guard they have is
Michael on waynu As, a kid from Michigan who's playing
a ton for them, you know. And you you go
back to previous drafts and everybody points out that Nikkill
Harry was bad last year as a rookie, and you
see how many rookie wide receivers are having a big
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impact this year. Harry has been better this year. But
it's like we don't give them any credit. Isaiah wind
was a tackle they took at the twenty three spot
and he's been outstanding. They've drafted well in the our
interior lines. They just no team can sustain the number.
First of all, they had eight opt outs. We have
no idea what the Patriots would look like if they
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didn't have those opt outs. You know they had in
the conversation of the best defense in the league last year.
They struggle with Lamar Jackson with that style, but outside
of that, they the the defense kept them in games.
It was the offense and the skill position players. And
they drafted well in the line, you know, two of
the last three years. And yes, they would be better
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if they had Quite honestly, they would be better if
they had Tom Brady. I think. I don't think any
anybody would argue otherwise. But they're right there. They're going
to have I think the third most cap space in
the upcoming off season. Uh, my guests would be not
only will they have their first high draft pick. It's
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not just that they didn't draft high in the first round.
I go go back and look, and I know they've
traded out of first round picks. But like people want
to say, oh, well to kill Harry like he was
the thirty second pick of the draft. Would you rather
have DK Metcalf. Sure, sure, absolutely DK Metcalf. But everybody
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missed on DK Metcalf. Everybody thought he was David Boston,
you know that look good in the mirror flexing, but
was too stiff in the hips. People missed on him
and Nikkill Harry is not as good as DK Metcalf.
Now he does have I think, uh, he's having a
good he's having a decent year this year with nineteen
catches already in one touchdown reception, and he's playing in
an offense where you don't have a quarterback who's storing
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times a game the way that some other guys have them.
But when you draft at the bottom of every round
of the draft for two decades, yeah, you're draft is
a little bit harder. You know, you have a little
bit harder. So I look at it and think it's
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so much better for them to be bad. And the
competitiveness of Bill Belichick gets the best of them. They
beat the Jets on Monday night, and they probably shouldn't
have beaten the Jets on Monday night in order to help.
But they're gonna have money to spend. They'll have draft picks,
and they've actually drafted pretty well on their interior lines
both offensive defense and I don't know what happens with
Dante Hie Tower with Patrick Chung, but when if they return,
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that's a good defense again. So what with the era?
The Brady era of the dynasty is quite obviously over.
But the difference in other dynasties like the Spurs. Like
the Spurs, Tim Duncan retire, mountag nobly retired, Tony Parker retired,
and obviously Quiet Letard wanting out. But the thing that's
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gonna hurt the Spurs probably the most is at some
point Great Pop Fitch is gonna retire. You know what
led to the Cowboys downfall? Yes, the concussions to Michael Irvin,
the concussions to Troy Aikman, but also the coaching change
where parsity where where Um Jimmy Johnson couldn't take it
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and so he only won two of the three championships.
The coaching, the leadership absolutely matters. I mean, that's what
happened in San Francisco. George Seifert was a really good coach,
brilliant guy. It was not Bill Walsh, who's widely considered
along with Bill Parcels those the two greatest coaches before
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Bill Belichick in the history of modern football. If you
have the same coach, if you have the right leadership,
if you have the right plan, you can rebuild it.
That's what the Warriors are planning on. They had a
year to press reset, but they kept Steve Kerr and
they kept their core and they'll try and figure out
everything else around it. And look, it ain't easy to
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find another star quarterback the Dolphins. If two is the guy,
it's been since that they've been searching. That is thirty
years since Dan Marino. Right the Bills and Josh Allen.
This is the first guy who gives them true hope
since Jim Kelly again early nineties. We're talking twenty five years,
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and they were a dynamic offense. It's hard to find
a dude like what the Packers have done. Most people
can't do. I mean, how the Bears haven't had Jim
McMahon was was the the ego and the personality was big,
but it wasn't like an all time great quarterback. Bears
have never had one. Ever. Go back and look, Bears
fans like, you know, you're right, sucks. You know. Cutler
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had freaky talent, just nobody liked him. That's part of it.
Life is a little bit of a popularity contest. You know,
the Vikings have had talented quarterbacks Rando Cunningham and Dante
called Pepper, and you know you kind of go back
through kind of the list nail some Warren Moon. They've
had lots of guys that were really good. They've always
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had kind of missing something. Part of it is our
arch rival has had the superstar quarterback, and they've had
good quarterbacks. That's really the difference in the Vikings and
the Packers. So I dynasties are interesting, and yes that
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part of the Patriots dynasty is over, but I I mean, look,
Bill Belichick finds a way to win games. He's found
a way to get guys off the scrap heap. He's
drafted better outside of wide receiver than he's given credit for.
So just to guess, I don't think the dynasty is over.
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I think this is a pause and a reboot. The
Ravens went through it when um when uh am I
forgetting he joined us? Sometimes No, and I'm Bill the Ravens,
Brian Billick, Brian Billick, When Brian Billick they were capped
out and they kind of shed that roster after the
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two thousand team, and the problem was they selected the
wrong quarterback and they hadn't been able to kind of
get out of it. But leadership in the front office,
leadership in the coaching staff, that's what allows you to
hang around for a long time. Those great football guys
are great football guys, and they just kind of figure
it out. That's what Ozzie Newsome is the reason that
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the Ravens were so good for so long. Bill Belichick
is the reason, the biggest reason the Patriots are so
good for so long. Yes, and Tom Brady and I
think when that leadership remains, you've got a great shout
of rebuild that thing. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific. So let me get to John middlecof
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who joins us. John is a degenerate gambler and a
former I'm kidding well sort of, uh, former NFL scout,
of course, hosted three and Out podcast and he heard
podcast network. Who did you like today in the Daily Gulf.
I'm gonna go with Dustin. I think Dustin is poised
to to win the tournament and degenerate gambler would be strong.
(19:55):
A gambler would be I think a fair way. Have
you ever been on a preseason support event? I'm not
women's sporting event? Uh no, okay, okay, uh wait, wait
when you go when you go to Vegas? Are you
somebody who tells yourself, I'm walking away and all you
do is walk back to the A T M. I've
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gotten a lot better as I've gotten I mean in
my twenties, for sure. I mean now you know, as
you mature in your thirty seven to take something out
of the A T M. Okay, sure, I'll do that. Well.
The first time you learn what a what a cash
advance from your credit card is usually in your early twenties,
when you have no money. Yeah, okay, so you you
like you like DJ thoughts on Tiger He's yesterday he
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was a picture of consistency, no no bogies. Right now
he's in the sand. It's fastening. Of all the sporting
events to watch, of all the people to watch, Tiger
Woods with no gallery is probably the most fastating, right
because you always wonder does it help him, does it
hurt him? Does it help his opponents? Does it hurt
it because there's nothing like a Tiger roar by the
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way pretty good out out of that of that sand.
He's got a shot for for par um like when
when you're watching Tiger thing. Yeah, I mean I I've
seen him live several times even uh several times in
his peak like pre two thousand eight. Uh, I'd say
Thursday and Friday at an event like this has that
has little to no impact, but like last year Saturday Sunday,
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it has a massive impact. So if he's in the mix,
I think Phil Mickelson would be a guy too. I mean,
those guys are beloved at this place, and if you
have eight championships between the two of them, uh, it
would help them out a lot. And I think it
really benefits And you saw it when Harding Park the
PGA Championship, Mark Cowell wanted he didn't make the cut
and he's not going to is to meet the young guys.
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There is a pressure. I don't care in what sport
you play when you have people looking at you. You know,
you can say, oh, they're ten million people watching, yeah,
but you don't feel it that there's something about the
people staring right at you, especially in golf when they're
literally right there and the Masters. You know, I've never
been there, but it's got to be an eerie feeling
if you're a young player in the mix comes Saturday
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and Sunday and a guy like Tigers on the Prowl
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sport Trail. Let's get
the football. Um. Look, I thought Philip Rivers played well
last night, but that was the collapse of the Titans
Special teams. Uh it was. It was almost Chargers like right, Like,
I mean, you got shank punt touchdown, block punt touchdown,
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missfield goal touchdown, game over. I don't want to take
away from Philip Rivers playing well after all of us,
you know, declaring him dead as a quarterback, But the
story was the Titan special teams, was it not? Yeah?
I completely agree. I mean, I just think the when
you look at the two teams, the Cult's identity of
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just being a lights out defense and that front seven
right there with Tampa probably the best in the league,
is just going to translate to every game. So when
they're on and then the special teams make plays. As
long as Philip doesn't throw a pick, they're gonna beat
most people. They play. I think the problem you see
with Indie is like if they win the division and
you know it's like they played. I know they won
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that game. You know you look at the final score
it did. It wasn't quite I wouldn't call it a
blowout really till the you know one special teams kind
of took over. I just think they're ceiling is so
limited because how are they going to score with Philip,
especially if they have to play outdoor games, you know
that past the first round because their team, if they
had peak Philip rivers just like five or six years ago,
or hell, just the way he was playing. Remember when
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they upset the Chiefs on that Thursday night, they would
be you know, a legitimate I think Super Bowl contender.
But I it's just hard for me to trust him
in his arm as the season goes on, because I
do think they are. They're definitely better than Tennessee. I mean,
Tennessee just has their secondaries terrible uh clowney kind of
tries when they're when they're playing in prime time. But
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other than that, he disappears. They're very dependent on Henry.
Like Henry had a good game. Look at the box,
Scory had over a hundred yards, But a hundred yard
doesn't do it for them. They need like a hundred
seventy to be good right, And in tanney Hill when
he's off, they they really have no chance. I've decided
here's what I decided about running back long term second contracts.
It's it's the guy, the guy who convinces themselves that
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they that they did the right thing giving Christian McCaffrey
the money, and I thought it was the right thing
at the time. Um was is the guy convincing themselves
that I have the one car that's not going to
depreciate as an asset. Everybody else has cars that depreciate,
but not my car. You know, I bought it. I
bought it pre owned. I bought it pre owned some
somebody already, somebody already drove some of that cost off
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and I got a deal on it. I got a
demo car, so it's seven thousand less than than Sticker.
I somehow I have smarted people when the truth is,
everybody knows it. Even Dalvin Cook, as good as he is,
like it'll fade too quickly or he'll get hurt, because
that's what happens with all of them. I think the
hardest part is is when you're living in it and
you've drafted him and you're around the guy, you go, God,
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the guy so would because like their second third year
is kind of sometimes the peak of these guys NFL lives.
The problem is they take so many hits in that position.
You know, sometimes either the fourth or the fifth year,
you saw it was Zeke, you just fall off a cliff. Now,
I think you'd look and go, well, Kamara and Cook
are fantastic, and right now in the moment, that's true,
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but we've seen Cook be banged up before. Alvin is
just a smaller player. So luckily they use them really
more in the receiving game than they do as a
true between the tackles running back. But if either one
of those guys gets hurt over the next twenty games,
it's crippling, and especially because you can their backup can
just function to somewhat of a level. We've seen it
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before with Cook and the kid. They have the backup
the boys steak Guy Madson, so I you know, McCaffrey's
already banged up, Zeke's falling off a cliff. Running Back
is probably my favorite position beside quarterback. I just think
it encompasses everything in the sport. Blocking you gotta run
between outside the tackles. Now you've got to catch the football.
It literally asks everything of a player. So I have
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nothing but respect for the position. But man, it's just
most teams. I'd say, basically every team in recent memory
has got burned immediately. And yeah, it feels like the
moment you signed the contract, the diminishing returns and you
lose the value pretty quickly. Doug Olive Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. John middle Coff is our guest. Three
out is the podcast. Let me play for you what
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Lamar Jackson said. So, Lamar Jackson was on the Rich
Eisen Show, Okay and Richards and and one of the
things I defended Lamar about is generally he said the
right thing at every press conference, in every interview, and
and he said this to rich Eyes and take a listen.
I feel, Um, you know, it's it's a lot of
it's a lot of with schemes. You know, we're going
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to get his defenses. Um they calling out out of
police stuff like that, like you know, doing so a
lot of that. You know, sometimes you know, stuff won't
go away. So you're you're hearing on the other side
of the line of scrimmage the defense calling out your
place like run stuff like that. That sometimes that's what's
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going on. What are your thoughts? I think it is
just so much easier as a defensive schemer, if I'm
a defensive coordinator, the more and more information is is
historically true, especially with this coordinator, to figure out the
run game, because there are only so many options in
the run game. Right, you're either run an off tackle left,
off tackle right, and with them they run kind of
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that outside kind of option type play and you can
run it up the middle like you're You're kind of
limited once you give it to the running back. You
can only do so much. Where if I'm playing Sean
Payton or Andy Reid and it's a very passing game
oriented operation or Seattle, there's so many different routes and
there are three or four players running those routes, so
you might know one guy's route, but you're not going
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to know everyone. The run game, to me is easier
to predict. I I think what he's saying is kind
of honest. We have a running based offense. I mean,
he didn't say that, but we all know it's true.
And these guys know our run game. Oh they go,
I dare you to be like, we know what gaps?
To fill the more and more information I have on
a team that runs, you know, running based offense, I'm
gonna plug those gaps and force you to pass because
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no matter how much I study in the passing game,
I'm still gonna be pretty much reacting to a lot
of the passing game. Look at Andy Reid, He's been
quote unquote running the passing game for twenty plus years.
He could constantly constantly throw different wrinkles in there. What
can you really do in the run game, right? I mean,
there's there's only so much, but but there's there's a
couple of different levels to it, okay, And and there's
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the let's the reality of two twenty is And I
talked to an NFL GM last week and he's like, look,
I think it's way these One of the reasons the
rookie quarterbacks are doing better is that you don't have
the crowds, right, And a lot of these rookies like
they can they can hear the calls, they can hear
the audibles. You can yell to him from the sidelines,
you can coach him better, like it's the assimilation is easier.
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So I do think that some of some of what
he's saying is just the reality of they're probably always
been yelling out what they think he's doing. Now you
can just hear it better. But that there there's a
certain lack of accountability to it, right, Like I gotta
be better, they gotta they think they know what we're doing.
I gotta look to to audibilize and get out of
it if I think they know what they're doing. It
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feels like what he's saying is, hey, our scheme is
too simple and it's not my fault that we can't
be as good an offense as we used to be,
and Greg Roman's gotta fix figure out how to not
be so simple. That's what it feels like to me,
where he's always said the right thing instead of Hey,
I just gotta get better. I gotta figure it out.
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We gotta get better as a team. Again. I know
that's more of the cliche thing, but isn't there a
little bit of lacking accountability there? Yeah? I mean, let's
just called spade a spade. What he should be saying
is my limitations in the passing game limit what we
can run. All right, don't you think that Greg Roman
would would run a more diverse passing offense if you
think his quarter thought his quarterback could run a more
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diverse passing offense. Well, if people forget now, but back
in two thousand and definitely two tho teams he tried
to go. They tried to go spread, you know, like
you would see what the Chiefs do. What Saints do
you know, four or five wide? And they could not
do it. Yeah, and I think it's fair to say
now Lamar the difference, Like, Lamar is probably more accurate
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than Colins, but he doesn't have him as explosive as
an arm and I just don't think they think he
can run that. Plus his best actual by far is
running around. And this gets back to what probably guys
like me and you said two and a half three
years ago that like, I just bet against this guy,
this type player. Now, in the short term, last year,
it's like, yeah, he won the m v P, but
then what happened in the first round of the playoffs.
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He got throttled because they take away the run force.
In the past, and every good team and big game
he's played lately, they have no shot and just big picture.
Now their offense is just regressing because even the average
defenses now can the run game scheme and the run
game film. Like once you get twenty plus games of
what you're doing, you can only do so much. Like
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once you hand it to Ingram or Dobbins, he's either
going left or right. But if you've got three for
wide receivers, it's so much easier to keep him off balance.
But the reality is, can Lamar do that? Because I
would seem like the coaches don't believe you can, right, Yeah,
I tend to believe now like they would. They're trying
to put him in a position to succeed. Um, and
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it's a it's a Lamar thing now running quarterbacks like
Kyler's running quarterback. They spread it out and thrown around
right at the lebron or it's a Lamar specific thing. Yes,
Doug Gotli show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, I
used to work at the other place for a long
time at Cheerios. I think it's corn flakes, which I
don't know anyway, Well, we'll look at the expression. Is
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they keep trying to run Carson, Like, tell me Carson
Wentz thinks, and I did he played poorly at times
early the season. Yes, I think he's played pretty well,
and especially considering who he's playing with. You watch tape
differently as a guy who's been in this league. What
do you see when you see Carson Wentz right now? Yeah,
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I mean, I think people just so live in the moment.
I mean, he's had some bad games, and he's definitely
had some bad moments. I mean his turnovers. He had
a stretch there, I mean still up until like last
week where it was just a little out of control.
But part of it was like he's playing with the
full line of backups. Every like week it gets tweeted
out all of the starters, you know, when when the
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season started, all crossed out into all the backups on
the field. I think I heard someone on Coward Show
the last couple of weeks. The leading one of the
leading receivers in the league since week four is that
Fulghum guy. I I do this for a living. I
had never heard of the guy. Well, of course now
he's from Old Dominion. So the guys they were depending
on al Seandshan zach Ertz. These guys have all been
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injured and not even on the field. Even there running
back they drafted last year in the second round has
been injured. Now, does he kind of take on the
hero ball syndrome too much? For sure? But but I
also think that comes with the territory. When you're playing
with three or four practice squad guys like that, when
I pay you thirty million dollars, sometimes you gotta be
a hero. And it just hasn't worked, and he's made
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some poor throws. But sometimes when a guy throws a
pick for us sitting on the couch, we just got
it's quarterback man, and the coach the next day I
will tell you well that that was on the wide receiver.
He ran the rount. We practiced this. The guy went
to the wrong spot. So it's it's easy to say,
you know, it's always on the quarterback when that's just
not true. I also think people just need to take
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a step back, take a deep breath. Like the majority
of the league would take the guy in a heartbeat. Uh,
you know, he's just he's a younger quote unquote player,
you know, just in terms of experience, he was only
what a two year starter in college. Remember he got injured,
so he didn't even play really that much of a
senior year, and then he's had multiple injuries in the pros.
That's kind of limited his time. Like it's not like
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he's been playing like he's like a ten year starter.
I mean, look at Philip Rivers a good example, like
seven eight years into his career. Remember he had that
terrible stretch. Like guys have rough stretches for whatever reason.
Sometimes it's on them, sometimes on their teammates. I would
not like sell my stock in Carson Wentz. Now do
I think it's like, uh, when I put it in concrete,
the guys just headed the Hall of Fame? Probably not,
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But I think he can be a really good player
in this league still for a while. Really quickly, let
me put in your scout hat um d j uga
lay the kid from Clemson who's the freshman, Like, look,
I love Trevor Lawrence. Everybody says he's the next Andrew
Luck And you and I were texting during a game
like are we sure we love Andrew Trevor Lawrence. Then
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he made a couple of throws like okay, my bad,
sorry about that middle cough Just just okay. But when
when you see DJ play. What are your thoughts on
him as a prospect. Yeah, I mean just elite. I
mean I mean, unless something screws up, which I don't
see how it's gonna happen. In that program, he's gonna
be the number one overall pick, you know, in two
or three years whenever he chooses the earliest he can
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come out, if that's what he so chooses. I mean,
he's like, you know, he looks like Big Ben already
and he's eighteen years old. His arm is a Howitzer, right,
I mean you text me like, what's up with Trevor Lawrence?
Because sometimes his arm You're like, uh, I don't really
see it, and I'm with you, But this the guy
when he let it rip, You're like, my god, you know,
I mean, this guy is a five. You know, this
guy was a basketball player we hed bes Ion right
(35:14):
or a d or just who you know whoever that
guy would be? Right? Does does his does his dad?
Because I heard this about I heard this U about
ta where you know, when you're Hawaiian or when you're Simoan,
like those are big bone dudes, right, big bone dudes?
Does does that give you pause at all? In terms
of what he'll look like when he's yeah, I mean
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it has to a little bit because often those guys,
especially you know the police, the Islanders, tend to play
on the lines, so you don't usually see the quarterback.
And when you meet to and I know you did
the Super Bowl, his body type doesn't look like this guy's.
He looks much more like a normal guy to me.
The DJ one kind of remember that Zion conversations like
this guy gotta be too big. He has a little
bit of that. Now. I do think these guys are
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so locked in with eating and training in football. It's
so regimented like that there especially you know for six
months of the year that you feel pretty good about it.
I mean how big band head years when he was
totally and big Ben is a massive guy, and you
know who else is bigger than people I think realize,
like in the Hips and just Mahomes like Mahomes, there's
a miked up he was miked up a couple of
(36:18):
weeks ago, whatever, And there's some times in which he's
running and if you really look at his body type
of like damn, you forget how big a fella he is.
And he's a really mean Russell and Kyler are tiny
little fellas in comparison, these are giants of men, and
I tend to agree with you. All right, well, we
will have some sort of college football to watch, a
ton of pro football to watch. I love the podcast,
(36:40):
and uh, we'll see if your guy DJ puts you
in the money. You're not a degenerate. You just you
enjoy the competitiveness of it. Thanks so much for joining us.
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All right, let's start in the pros. We will back
back in our way to college. Fair enough. Uh. The
Washington football team is one and two on the road
this season against the spread there thirty points per game. Now,
the Lions are hard team to figure out. They could
not stop the running game of the Minnesota Vikings last week.
After winning a couple of games previous to that. I
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think the Lions bounce back. I do you know Lions?
Last week they had a lot of questions about Remember
Stafford went into COVID protocol. Was gonna play? Was not
gonna play? They know who's playing this weekend barring some
sort of late notice. I like the Lions even though
they're laying four and a half. Did you guys know
the Texans are one and seven against the spread this season,
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that's second worst in the NFL. The Browns actually have
the fourth best red zone offense and Houston defense is
points per game And the big stat is on third down, Right, Like,
forget your traditional stats. How many yards you give up,
it doesn't matter to people anymore. What matters is how
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many points do you give up? And what do you
do on third down? Can you get off the football field?
There in the league in getting out the football field,
Browns at home, running the football, healthy backfield, Jimmy Browns.
The Bills are traveling Arizona take on the Cardinals, and well,
Carlin's were good last week, right times, But I look
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at the Cardinals and I see those flaws on the
defensive side of the ball, and it kind of jumps
out at me that I look this Cardinals teams a
two and a half point favorite. Would I love it?
Would I love it if the Cardinals, uh, we're a
three or three and a half point favorite? Sure, right,
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like they can win and three in a hook. But
remember the Cardinals lost at home last week to the Dolphins.
They needed three interceptions and still had to hold off
the Seahawks win by three. The other wins on the
year Niners first game of the year. We kind of
throw that one out, Washington Jets, Cowboys three the worst
teams the league, especially when they played the Cowboys. So
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I'm not as bullish on the Cardinals overall. I love
Kyler DeAndre Hopkins, I like parts of that offense skill.
I'm not as bullish and the Cardinals as other people
are because so many of those wins are against bad teams.
The Bills, on the other hand, there's seven and two
on the season. They have a win over the Raiders.
They gotta win over the Rams. They gotta also win
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over the Seahawks, just like the Cardinals too. They gotta
win over the Patriots, which doesn't seem like a lot,
but remember the Patriots have been their nemesis in the
a f C. East, So I'm bigger believer there. Did
you guys see the Josh Allen's completed his passes for
almost nine yards per attempt during this winning streak, Bill's
defenses outstanding third and takeaways. I like the Bills to
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go on the road straight up to get the upset.
As an under dog. Patriots are taking on the Ravens. Now,
that's something interesting because it's the Patriots second time around
seeing the Lamar Jackson offense. Last year he torched him.
And I'm concerned about the Patriots speed on defense versus
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the Ravens. But I think I'm equally concerned about the
Patriots offense right now. It is. I know they won
last week, but they did so uh with Cam Newton
playing Pete, Cam Newton having to come you when you
gotta come from that many down late to beat the Jets,
what are you gonna do against the Ravens. Patriots are
three and five against to spread the twenty points per game.
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Ravens defense is legit. They're gonna force you to make plays, blitzing,
playing man a man, and I just don't think that
they have the speed that the Chief, for example, had.
I I like the Ravens to win and the Ravens
to cover. Um, I'm gonna just keep I'm keep doing
this until ultimately they win a game. Charles, the Charges
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of two and a half point dogs. They seem to
get leads and find inventive ways to lose games. They
actually have the six best passing offense right now and
Justin Herbert in the last four weeks thirteen touchdown passes
over three yards passing per game. I think the Dolphins,
who just beat the Cardinals on the road, come home
and lose at home to the Chargers. No real home
field advantage. You know that piercing sun at Dolphin Stadium
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on the sideline and if you guys know, it's like
like ants under a magnifying glass when you're on the
visiting sideline. The weather is not now, we're in the fall.
It actually feels good. It does. It's not like early
in the year and it's Chargers. I don't think the
sun he affects them. I like the Chargers to win.
I like them to beat the Dolphins. I think they're
actually a pretty good club. And uh, it's not that
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I have I think two of stincts. I just again
haven't been blown away. I think these singles and doubles.
All right, So you got the Lions, the Browns, Builds,
the Ravens, and yes, I'm gonna pick the Chargers to
actually win a football game. Let us get to the
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college game, all right. Disclaimer, who knows that they're gonna happen? Right? Like?
Legitimately think even if they get on the plane, it's
not until they land, you know, it's not not until
they land. Um, here's one that doesn't make a ton
of sense to me, right Like Virginia texts best player
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opted out for the season, and they've had an up
and down year, Whereas Miami, the only time that they looked,
uh beat a ball at all was when Derrick King
was terrible against Clemson. Did you guys see what Derrick
King did last week against NC State? Five touchdowns known receptions.
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I just I think he's the best player on the field.
I don't know why they're underdogs. I know I'm supposed
to say, hey, Vegas knows more than you. Gottlieb and
I generally agree Vegas does no more than me. But
when you have the best player on the field and
he's the quarterback and you're not Clemson to force him
into mistakes, Virginia Tech being at two point dog. I
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like Miami. There's no fans there in Lane Stadium. I
like Miami to win the game. Uh. We've talked a
lot about Indiana football. They appear to be the real deal.
They beat the hell out of Michigan last week. They
beat in Penn State, they beat Rutgers. Michigan State also
beat Michigan. Right, so you have the common opponent. Indiana
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is a seven and a half point dog. Let's just
ride the Indiana way, right, Let's just we'll ride it
plus seven half point favorite. Plus. You know, a guy
came on my show, so we'll do We'll do that one.
We'll do that. Um, Are any of these other games
definitely happening? Like is Wisconsin definitely happening against Michigan? I
think so? I think so, And I like Jim Leonard's defense.
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Their four and a half point favorites. But I got
to go to the well and go Michigan circling the
wagons at home. Two embarrassing losses in a row. Blown
out by Indiana, beaten at home by Michigan State. I'm
I think Jim Harball wins this game there four and
a half point Dogs at home. Give me me chagain.
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Notre Dame taken on Boston College. Uh, the guy who
built my house in Canon, Connecticut was actually the kicker
when they upset Notre Dame back in. Let you guys
know that. Anyway, this kind of anniversary game, and the
big question is Notre Dame. Can they uh can they
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deal with the success that they had last week beating
a Clemson. Now, I don't think this is a classic
great Notre Dame team, and I think Boston College is really,
really well coached. I'm gonna take Boston College to keep
it close there at twelve point dog, Notre Dame celebrates
a double overtime was a triple overtime win, whatever it was,
double overtime win, I'll take. I'll take Boston College in
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that big number. All right, everything else essentially canceled, but
I'm gonna go one more here, one more. Northwestern taken
on Perdue. Perdue's best player as our best wide receiver
has not played so far this year, and yet Perdue
two and oh. Because of it, Northwestern has been the
surprise team of the Big Ten at two and oh.
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But Perdue playing at home. Uh. I think Bram has
a good quarterback in Aidan O'Connell, Xander Horvath one yards
rushing on this young season, and David Bell. If you
haven't seen David Bell play, that does a talented talented
wide receiver. Six too, Uh, six to two oh five.
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I like Perdue to win at home. I know that
home field advantage is not supposed to be that big
at advantage, but it's pretty obvious. I think it will
be one. So what do we got? We got Perdue,
we got Boston College, we got Michigan. Uh, those are
all home teams. We got Indiana as a road favorite,
winning and covering, and we got Miami as a road dog,
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winning and covering. There's your five for five five there
it is five NFL five College five for five with
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