January 6, 2021 • 36 mins
Doug reacts to an Eagles player explaining what happened with head coach Doug Pederson in the final game of the season and why Philadelphia needs to consider starting over. He also explains why he thinks the Dolphins are making the right decision by sticking with Tua Tagovailoa as their QB of the future. Plus, Super Bowl champion head coach Tom Flores joins the show to share some stories about his time with the Raiders and the late Al Davis.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sparts Radio coming to you from
the sunny City of Angels where, like Kevin Stefanski should
be welcome Mom today. I hope you guys are great. Um,
Ramos healthy. Let me see the thumb thumbs thumb is
definitely up. Ramos is up. Music back in the chair man.
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It's good to have Ryan Music back in the chair
after filling in on Cowherd. If you noticed a drop
off in the quality of Colin Cowherd today, the difference
is simple. Right Music was producing for the last week
and now he's back here, so this show will be notably,
notably better. We got Dan Buyer on the updates, and
of course, uh we we have the entire Fox Sports
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Radio power behind us. Let let me start with this.
Jason Kelsey had a really interesting post kind of trying
to put to bed some of the rumors about what
really went on the sidelines in Philadelphia this past weekend
with with this post quote. At no point was anything
from me or anyone else confrontation. And we all knew
leading in the game that Sudfeld was told to be
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ready to play, and that Doug wanted to see what
he could do in a game situation. All of us
during the week leading up, we're excited for Nate, a
guy who's been with us for four years, to get
an opportunity in real game to show the world what
he can do. I understand the optics and how it looked,
and I'd be lying if I wasn't a little surprised
given the circumstance that the move happened when it did.
But every one of us did our best, and all
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of us believe we can win with Nate Sudfeld. I'm
just gonna tell you, like, as a coach, I've actually
been there before between youth basketball, where you're trying to
get everybody in and get him a you know, but
when you get somebody in, sometimes it ruins the momentum
and it can turn a win into a loss. Um
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from from that too, when I've coached the team, when
I first started on Fox Sports Radio in Israel where
we went to a championship and I didn't get guys
in because I didn't want what happened to Sudfelt to happen.
Where you have a guy who's earned the right to
play and you want to get him a taste of
what it's like. You want to give him, but it's
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it's really it's hard. But that's the job. Um. Miles Sanders,
talented running back for the Eagles. He had this to
say on w i P yesterday, an honest nobody liked
nobody and that's how That's all I could say. Really,
But um, I don't know what what was the who
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was the main person behind that decision? But all that
all I know is a lot of people on the
team was was confused that they were confused. I'll also
point like part of what this is what happens with Cam,
it's a little bit of what happened with Jalen Hurts.
Like Jalen Hurts has been a public figure for five
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years now, from starting as a freshman at Alabama Okay
to getting benched on national TV, and then in the
national and against Georgia, right to all the kind of
the back and forth the next year, then transferring to
Oklahoma and having a good amount of success at OU.
You know, one of the things you run into is
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there's a there's a clear break between Jason Kelsey, who's
an old time pro and as the center like he
knows most demos. Kind of the deal as supposed to
Miles Sanders, who Jalen Hurts is his age, his contemporary.
He's seen him play and ball out at the college level,
so he assumes that he's the guy. Never like Nate
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Sudfeld has been the third string quarterback and been hurt
and he wasn't. He's only been there in the last
two years. He wasn't. He didn't have a stutfelt when
Sudfeld first came in. Um is Jalen Hurts the future
quarterback of the Eagles? If you say yes, you're just
clouded by the fact that there was energy when he
took over. Right. Jalen Hurts stats in a game he
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started this season all right completion percentage, eight total touchdowns,
nine turn hours. Doug Peterson has been the head coach
of the Eagles for about five years now. He's had
three quarterback controversies. Carson Wentz once out, which would count
thirty four million against the cap if he's traded, and
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Doug Peterson's record is twenty nine and thirty four. Keep
in mind that Anthony and Lynn was just fired by
the lh Jers in a better division, and he was
I believe thirty was it thirty two and thirty four
or thirty and thirty two is two games below five hundred.
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The crazy thing is that the Eagles had that one
outlier season of winning all those games, and he win
twelve games and then winning a Super Bowl, and that's
really the outlier. The rest is is who he is.
But it's it's more like the reason Anthony Lynn was
fired was more than about record as a person. He's
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he's too good a person to be a head coach
in the NFL. He's that good a person. But whether
it was the fact that Lynn was completely married to
his assistant coaches and wouldn't make moves, including a special
teams coach, just some of the decision making at the
end of games, like yeah, I mean Anthony Lynn just
he was fired on Monday and nobody batted an eye
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Doug Peterson, like, look, when you're the you're the head
coach in the NFL X and L's is like the
fifteen thing on the list. Maybe not that far down
the list for for Doug Peterson's the former quarterback and uh,
but he wasn't. He wasn't a play caller in Kansas
City when he got the jobs. They didn't bring him
in for his play calling. They brought him in because
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as a former backup quarterback, he was supposed to completely
get the deal, and he's butchered the deal. I would
even hold some of the over the top celebrations, some
some of the overt top celebrations when they won the
Super Bowl on Doug Peterson. You're like, hey, how's that fair?
These are grown men, because guys will do exactly what
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they're allowed to do. Yes, Rob Gronkowski would be a
drunken mess on the floats when the Patriots would win.
But I don't remember. I don't remember some of the commentary,
like Lane Johnson had some of the things that Jason
Kelsey did you know what a good dressed up in
that the green suit, you know, calling out everybody like
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it was a long time coming for the city of Philadelphia.
It was a great super when you did it with
a backup quarterback. You had a great season coming off
of firing Chip Kelly. Like all of those things were good,
but so many of these missteps they don't all fall
on the plate of the head coach, but enough of
it does to where you're like, all right, he's gotta go.
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All right, he's gotta go. I just I were examining
the quarterback and we should be examining the coach. And
what's painfully obvious to me here was it probably wasn't
completely his call, but he did in fact agree to it.
I'm gonna get sut Felt in. I want to get
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sut Feled in. And then you didn't feel like the
timing was right, and then you stuck him in and
the team stunk up the joint and you didn't put
Jalen Hurts back in, and it just it's no balled
on you in a hurry. It can happen, can absolutely happen,
but let's not allow it to make us think that
Jalen Hurts is suddenly the guy. And oh yeah, by
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the way, Jalen Hurts is getting you know, credit for
saying it's just not right right, you can see and
he also said it's bs you can see his like,
did you ever see Carson Wentz when he was benched
mutter those things in the sideline? Of course not, you
know why, because that that's not what That's not what
professionals do. And we're not giving I'm not gonna give
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Jalen Hurts a pass. He had to handle in college,
so he's been through before. He should know how to
handle in the pros. But the number one guy in
charge of the dysfunction in Philadelphia is absolutely Doug Peterson.
And when you're that for you, when you're five games
below five, when you've had three quarterback controversies, and I
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will grant you they have had massive injury issues as well.
It's not all on his plate. But enough of it is,
enough of it is Stug gotlip show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, the Dolphins stand by their decision to
draft to us and make him the future of their franchise.
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I'm gonna yesterday, I spent a good amount of time
telling you I'm just I don't know, but you know what,
I made some calls, taking some thought kind of like
the decision. I'll tell you why next. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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and the I Heart Radio ah app Doug Gottlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Look, I I don't want to.
I'm not bailing on to it just yet. I wanted to,
I really did. But I also and some of this
is having you know, Trent On you Trent deal for
on Yesterday where he's like, you know, if you don't
practice vertical routes, it's kind of hard to throw Rickle
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routes in games. And and one of the look there
there's a couple of things. None of these guys were
able to succeed on their own, right, Like there's just
this idea that you put a great quarterback in and
he just produces because he's dumb. I mean, I love
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the people. Look, I've come out as fairly critical of
Deshaun Watson. And for the record, I think if when
I said on the Dan Patrick Show, I'm not sure
he's a top ten quarterback, he's a top ten quarter
top ten quarter he's not in he you cannot convince me,
can I convince me that he's one of the super
uber elites, and you sit there and go away. Well, hey, Doug,
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look at the numbers that he put up hold on.
I was told that he didn't have weapons around him,
that trading DeAndre Hopkins was the end of the world.
But the fact is that Bill O'Brien did a really
good job of though he got guys that were oft injured,
he got played any pieces for him. The problem was
not all of the different pieces that he like. When
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David Johnson is healthy, he's a stud. He just wasn't
healthy enough. You know, your best wide receiver test, you
know test positive for PDS. Brandon Cooks is always hurt,
like he just trained for guys are too hurt. And
then the defense was in shambles. But Bill Bryant got
fired because of his personality, not not because of wins
and losses. What happens though, is though, look, Deshaun Watson
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super talented, but he didn't put up those numbers by himself.
You gotta have a line, and of course they reconstructed
that line starting last year with the Laramie Tunsil trade,
which is one of the things which is gonna hold
them back in the future. I say that because if
you look at the reconstruction of the Miami Dolphins. Chris
ger came out yesterday and said, too is our guy
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starting quarterback next year? And and look, I haven't been sold,
but if I'm holding to a stock, I also don't
sell it right now. Jared Goff did not look like
a competent quarterback in his first year. Now you could
sit here and tell me that Jared Goff doesn't look
at a competent quarterback. Now, Um, look, I don't think
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he's great, but he's a lot better than he played
in that first year. And what did they do? They
Jeff Fisher's system basically was everybody get open. There was
no rhyme or reason or scheme or plant like. It
just didn't feel. And I like coach Fisher, I've got
a chance to know. We're friends. He texts me from
the far reaches of like Montana and stop. He's a
good dude. But their offense was just not It was
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rudimentary for two thousand twenty whatever it was two thousand
fifteen and was still rudimentry. Then nobody does this stuff alone. Right.
Aaron Rodgers is great. Look at how there his production
drops off when he doesn't have Davante Adams. Okay, go
around and like what does Tom Brady at this late
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stage in his career, what does he need when he
Mike Evans and Antonio Brown and whom I forgetting Chris
Godwin like the whole reason he left doing those Like
I can't do this, but like I can't do it
by myself. I can't. No one can do it by themselves.
So look, can you name? Actually? This is here's a
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really good test. This is a really really good test.
I'm guessing he's gonna probably probably nail this, Okay, so
forgive me if if he gets these? All right, Dan Buyer, Um,
the Miami Dolphins this year, can you how many of
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their top five wide receiver, top five pass catchers? Can
you name? Uh? Davante Parker Okay, Preston Williams, good good,
good job out of you, Jachim Grant, Kim Grant, Texas Tech,
Mike is SICKI Mike Sicky tight end. Yeah. Um, and
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I'll say, uh Adam schheen, uh Adam Sheheen. I mean
he had twelve catcher Okay, so if we did yeah,
I mean they're there top pass catch pass catchers are
in order, DeVante Parker, Mike ja Sicky, Miles Gaskins, Jim
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Grant and Lynn Bowden, jr. Isaiah Ford, then Durham Smythe,
then Preston Williams, then Mack Hollins, then Adam Sheen. The
point the point is like, look, they're rebuilding a roster,
completely completely gutted a roster, and DeVante Parker has been
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hanging around and they drafted just just Sicky I think
three years ago or two years ago, a very athletic
and talented tight end. And Parker they've kind of hung
on to. He was often injured early on and now
he's kind of the old vet. He's fine, he's solid.
I mean they threw him a hundred times, he caught
it sixty three. He's okay. But but the resources of
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that team, basically they spent all the money and all
the resources on the defense, which is you know, Brian Floores,
the defensive guys weren't defensive coordinator. And then they went
and hired you know, Chan Gailey has been doing it forever,
and they said, hey, here, we'll give you a stud
rookie quarterback. You guys figure it out. So do I
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think two will look great? No, But I also think
that Miami did him no favors. They didn't look at
what Cincinnati did. In comparison, Cincinnati drafted a wide receiver
who had a great year in the second round. Cincinnati's coach, however, flawed,
is an offensive coach. And they still had a j Green,
they still had talented running backs. They had all these guys,
and then you put Joe burrowing, and Joe Burrow plays
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pretty well. They're not a good team, but he played well.
You look at what the charges of un Like Dude,
the Chargers have Hunter Henry on a franchise tag at
at tight end. They have Keenan Allen, who's a perennial
Pro bowler at one wide receiver. They have Mike Williams
is gonna make a bunch of money as another wide receiver,
you know. And they have Austin Ekeler who's a long
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time solution at running back. He's a good pass catcher.
Like they went and got dudes for him early in
his career. So it's it's hard to see how much
of it is about the play collar is a little
is a little along in the tooth, the talents not
quite there around him, but too it doesn't look all
that good. I think that's a fair way to look
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at it. So I understand why many are jumping off
the to a train. But I will only tell you that.
My guess is, you change offensive coordinators, you put some
of your resources behind the offense. You get him some
more toys to play with, and they'll be a there'll
be a jump in year two. That's just a guess.
Tom Flores is a legendary coach, just want to super
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Bowl with the Raiders and kind of have to spend
some time with this part of his partnership with Coors
Light to help lobby to be the first Latino quarterback
slash head coach to be inducted into the NFL Hall
of Fame. As part of the effort, of course, Tom's
gonna be featured in limited edition beer cans. Coach, How
are you? I'm doing pretty good. I'm pretty good. How
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are you doing? And it's crazy crazy, we're how can
you do you broadcast everything from your studio? No, we're
at home. We've done a bunch of studio, but but
we're at home. We're we're very much safe. At home. Yeah,
so you how are you? How is your health? Is
your healthcome? Yeah, my health is good. You know, we're
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I'm finding out whether I like my wife or not
because we've been together as so much as sure, and
I guess I do because we've been married almost sixty years.
You know. It's interesting and congratulations on on fifty nine
years together. Um, what's interesting is we're in a during
this time, I'm where guys are interviewing for head coaching jobs.
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What how did you get the Raider's job because you
were the wide receiver's coach before you got the job,
and you're with the Bills, but you had never been
a head coach before. How did you get the job? Well,
I got a job by being a Raider. Most of
my life I was a player. I played for Rold
Davis when he was a coach, and then I had
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been there for seven years with John Madden as an
assistant coach. I knew the system. Um, I was loyal
and you know I had I had. I had a
key to the front door, so I got myself into
in the building and uh, I went from there. I
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convinced all that I could do the job, and that
wasn't not easy to do and all day it was
not easy guy to work for. No, he was he
was not. Um. It took you just two years to
win a Super Bowl? What what what is that like
when when those years come together? Did you know it
early on? Like this has a chance to be won
two of them? Did you do you know early on
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this has a chance to be something special? Well? Not?
In nineteen eighty three, we had a great team. We
were loaded from day one. We struggled, we traded stable.
We uh and we've got Dan Passerini. He broke his leg.
We had Plunkett as a backup, and we resurrected him,
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dusted him off. And we had a lot of guys
that are on their last leg. And I thought that
was our finest hour as far as coaching and uh
and putting a group of guys together that uh up.
Sean Shell had one year left to give us a
Bobby Channer, we got him. Uh. We're in a couple
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of trades. The Cliff Frans still had a lot of
gas in his tanking, and so we little by little
we were able to do it. It was a wild card,
hard way and uh. And only did we do it
by outscoring the Chargers that year, and they were dynamite.
Their offense was dying. We couldn't stop their offense, but
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we did by out scoring them in their hometown as
a wild card team that year. You you you mentioned
that you resurrected Jim Plunkett. We're seeing some quarterbacks need
to be resurrected. Of course, Jim pluckle in the high
school trophy had Uh, it was a long time pro.
How do you go about resurrecting a quarterback who who
maybe and some of so much of its confidence, you
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know where you have to reinstill kind of their self
confidence and put them in position to to get those
old feelings back. Well, that's it. Put them in position,
give him a positive position to be in and then
you surrounded with players that that play well and they
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can make plays, big plays for you. And uh, you
were just talking about that earlier quarterback. He's not going
to do it alone. Abby Chandler gave us a great
year that year. He was our second coming of bulletinic
at that time. Receiver Cliff Branch there was an outstanding
receiver with great, great speed, Raymond Chester. We got him
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back and so he gave US pro bowled year at
the tight end spot. And uh and then Kenny King
we got him and he made some big place for us.
So he and guys that made a big place for us,
along with our defensive player Ted Hendricks still had a
big play possibilities and he made big plays for us.
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So we didn't do it alone. We had enough talent
and we got enough town to get it done for
that year. Uh. And so the Resurrection needed a lot
of guys that were able to help him Jim get
that done. Uh. Tom Floris, this legendary reader's coach, a
part of Bud Light's campaign to put him in the
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Pro Football Hall of Fame, become the first Luteam. I'm
a school coors Light. He coors Lights a campaign to
put him into the Pro Football Hall of Pro Football
Hall of Fame. Um. Okay, so the most one of
the most memorable run in super history of my lifetime.
I'm forty four years old. Yeah, I'm from southern California.
And and John Ramos would be sitting across from me.
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He's my uh, he's my board op and and he
I'm sure he's nodding his head right now, like we
both there's one play that's anonymous with you guys winning
the Super Bowl in four and Tampa Florida against the
Washington Redskins. It was seventeen, uh seventeen, Bob Tray, Oh right,
that's the that's the Marcus Allen run where he goes
one way and then he turns around and goes the
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other way and runs for a touchdown. But that was
That's not the design of the play, right, It's a
a simple it's a simple. It's not counter traite like
like the Redskins ran, but it's it's your power play.
I want the truth. When Marcus starts going the opposite way,
were you doing the no? No, no, no, no, no, no, yes, absolutely,
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what do you think I saw? I saw at the
start that the play got blown up at the line
of scream, and I said, oh, I want to see
exactly what I said. And then he reversed the speed
and he picks up Big Jim Plunkett as his personal
protector as he comes romping across the end. I said,
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oh no, and I'm just hoping that he gets back
to the last scream. And I said, oh, well wow,
And all of a sudden we went crazy and saw that,
I went crazy and that was that was this We're
meant to be. It was a great run, great instinct
to make that kind of decisions for those kind of decisions,
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which Marcus had always had that and and that that
team was was pretty well loaded, and that we had
some really good players. How how far away are these
Raiders from being competitive at the top of the NFL
in your opinion, Well, we got we have a ways
to go. We got a lot of kids that just
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don't know how to play the game the way the
way it should be playing. They think they're going to
play the game by just whacking somebody hard or hitting
somebody as hard as they can on defense, and then
they're missing tackles and out of position. They got to
grow up, maturity, They have the mature and they got
have enough speed. They got a lot of speed. Um
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offensive line. Obviously you always need a good offensive line,
but they have to protect the quarterback. Without that, you
don't have anything that Derek Carr has proven that if
he's protected, he can he can get the job done.
Whether he can take him all the way, I don't know.
I can answer. That's a tough things. There's a lot
of good quarterbacks. A lot of good young quarterbacks coming
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in the lake. And the one thing that you do
if you have one of those blue ship quarterbacks is
make sure you get the guys to protect him and
make plays for him all the Why why would you
draft him? I I don't know. It's it's it's a
very very good question. UM. I know Coure's life obviously
is behind this campaign, but what what would it mean
to you to be the first Latino player coach to
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be in that profit Ball of Fame. It would be
a lot. I mean, it would be the you know,
a dream come true, UM, lifelong dream and um, who
would have ever thought? I didn't even knew there was
pro football. I was growing up in the sam Joaquin Valley.
But here here I am with a chance to go
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to you know, being a and uh in a room
with a lot of incredible, incredible players and personalities and people.
So it would mean a lot to myself, the reader nation,
my family, and my my friends and and I already
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thank Coure's life for this, for their their can contribution
to h to this us a minute last week or
two push before the final vote, and then we'll see
what happens. I'm just excited about it. I'm I'm excited
a bunch of fact that we're actually having a Super
Bowl this year. Really is this impressive? And of course
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the Super Bowl in Tampa, a place where you won
your last Super Bowl with the Raiders with that famous
Marcus Allen run of dominating performance over what was the
then defending champion Washington Redskins. Coach continued health with you
and your wife, and we could not tell you how
much we appreciate you join us and giving us your
thoughts on the current state of the game, the Raiders
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and uh on on your historic runs to immortality. Hope
you hope begetting that pro football of him. Get get
a call from Big Dave Baker. Thanks so much for
joining us. All right, I appreciate it. Thank you, and
happy New Year and stay safe yourself. All right. Thanks.
That's that's coach Tom Flores. Now here's something. Here's something
that you guys don't know. Okay, we'll let you a
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little bit of secret. So my sister Wendy used to
work for the Raiders and she one of her first
jobs was she produced the games, the radio broadcast of
the games for a company called neider neider Lander. Um,
I think needer Lander Productions whatever anyway, Um, Amy Trask
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who was their CEO? And then she became I think
they're CFO anyway, Amy Trash. She my sister end up
becoming her number two in marketing. Now, my sister is
very bright. She comes from a obviously sports family, a
cheerleader in college. But again, I haven't done this is
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terrible whatever out there anyway? All right, So they moved
from l A to Oakland, and of course she knows
the coach flores Is, He's in on the meeting. Of
course she knows who coached. Coach Davis is Al Davis Is,
He's in on the meeting, Amy Trash on me. So
they have this meeting where they have all the big
sponsors from the Bay area to introduce the Raiders to
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the sponsors. And she kind of organized it all and
she made sure we get the right catering and the
right people there, and Coach Davis would come Al Davis
would come by and he talked and so, um, she
felt the need for everybody to go around the room
and introduce themselves. So there's no who is that guy? Right?
They go all the way around the room, and the
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last person is Jim Plunkett. And Jim Plunkett didn't introduce himself.
He was just very nice shaking everybody's hand or whatever.
So of my sister says, and you are. They go
all around the room. You know, He's like, I'm Jim,
I'm from sales of the Chevy place down the street.
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I'm Bill, I'm from Silicon Valley. I'm with Apple you know. Um,
and you are. He's like Jim Plunkett, Heisman Trophy winner,
super m v P. How are you nice to meet you?
I sold her out. She's gonna kill me. Uh more,
bad news for a playoff team in the NFL. I'll
share with you next. Be sure to catch the live
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edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific. Doug Gotlip Show rolls on here on
Fox Sports Tradio. I hope you're having a spectacular day. Um,
it's an odd day in our country, there's no question
about that. My thanks to legendary Raiders head coach Tom
Flora's joining us, and um, this kind of matter of facts,
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like yeah, you know it was always right ear they
just naming head coach. That honestly is what we forget.
Do you guys remember what happened with the Raiders and
Lane Kiffin? Here's how here's um. Ramos probably remembers, I know,
buy are definitely remembers. So music you're are you still
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twenty eight? Am? Okay, so you're twenty years old? Um?
Do you know Lane kill? Did you know the Lane Kiffin?
Do you remember Lank even was the head coach of
the Raiders. I do remember that very briefly. Yes. Do
you remember how it ended? I do not. I only
remember his infamous USC firing. He's been fired in amazing
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fashion from two places and he left Tennessee, like in
the middle of the night, right like it's really remarkable.
So he was five and fifteen as a coach of
the Raiders. But when he got fired, like there was
a bunch of different stuff too, Ramas, what do you
remember about it? The firing from the Raiders? I just remember.
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I don't know about the fire, but I remember like
they sue Al Davis or something like that for that,
or he did. That's what I remember. Okay. What do
you buy or what do you remember? I thought I
remember like a overhead projector point presentation. Something wasn't power point.
No no, no, no, no, it wasn't power point. Do
you remember? Okay, So again this is where the difference
in the age gap is. And I don't know music
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when you were in school, like when we were kids,
like people used to have these overhead projectors and put
this little film over the overhead projector. We had overhead
projector and then you you you could draw on the
little film thing withever like a dry eras marker kind
of right. That's before they had the white boards, which
became the smart boards, right and now and power point,
but we didn't have power point presentations. Al Davis breaks
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out an old school projector and he says, not only
is Lane Kiven a bad coach, but he's a liah, right,
and he starts going through the things that he lied about,
like to the media. And then they basically hired Tom Cable.
He was the offensive line coach, and they just like
he didn't know anything about Tom. He just kind of
like read his resume. He's like, you know, they tell
me he's pretty good, so we're gonna try it. That
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was it. It was just the most random stuff you've
ever seen. Let's get to a game, Sack. This is
game time Tide on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right,
what do we got there, Dan, Doug? The game today
is real news? Fake news? All right, dougrail news or
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fake news. Giants owner John Marras says they are still
evaluating GM Dave Gettleman in the entire front office. That's
fake news. Yes. Mara says that Gettleman will be back
for his fourth season. Giants won six games this past year,
won six and ten, fifteen and thirty three, and his
three years as the Giants general manager. Um, I do think,
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I do think that. Um, they look like they're close, right,
I mean they look like they're clothes that would but
they without sake Kwan Barkley. This year, they've built from
the lines out. They his him keeping his job is
gonna depend upon one thing, one thing, and um, you
(32:49):
know it's not there four computer folks. Remember he had
the hired four computer folks. You work at analytics. It's
gonna depend on Daniel Jones not turn the ball over
so much. They do that, they'll win more games to
keep his job. Ye. I'd actually argue they did it
the opposite way. Because they brought in Barkley, then they
went Jones, and then they went to believe Andrew Thomas.
Uh with their tackle, So they drafted their quarterback and
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running back. They drafted their running back and quarterback first
and then they're like, all right, then let's fill out
the team. But um, I think with their other picks
that they they they had, they revamped the whole thing.
If I remember Crickey, Yes, this year they drafted not
just Andrew Thomas, but it was also Matt perk uh Pert.
But they if you go back, uh, what was it
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se Kwon Barkley, They drapped Will Hernandez in his first
year as well, so will Hernandez a starting guard. And
then they drafted Lamou and Pert and Thomas this year,
so you're right, Um, they also Dexter Lawrence was a
draft pick. You know, they've missed on some but but
that's the that's the thing. Dougrilled loser, fake news. Brown's
teammates Jedrick Wills and Rochard Higgins were started for drag
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racing you know the team facility on Tuesday, Yes they're yes. Now.
Higgins had to delete some sweets saying one said foot
slip the other said was trying to get away from COVID.
Will's said, you're all blowing this way out of proportion.
How hast they gone? I don't know if it was.
(34:18):
I didn't see the actual uh speed that it was,
but um yeah, yeah, I just I mean, okay, yeah,
here's here's one uh Ryan music. When I say the
name Bobby Fills, you know who Bobby Fills us, that's
gonna be a no gonna be a no buyer. Remember
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Bobby Fills. Yeah, well that's yeah exactly. This incident reminded
me of that. Him and David Wesley. Right, Bobby Phills
was an NBA player. Guy was like guy had like
one of those bodies were like, dude, that's that's the
after picture for any workout video played at Southern Right
made it to the NBA second round pick and he
crashed his car. They were drag racing, you know, they're
racing each there. Uh. He and David Wesley after a
(35:02):
practice with the Charlotte Hornets and he died. Anyway, it
really happened, Doug. I we'll wrap up with this. Real
news are fake news. Bet Online is Tom Brady and
Josh Allen is the odds on favorites to throw for
the most passing yards in a wild card weekend. That
sounds like real news. Yeah, both listed at four to
one with the best odds to throw for the most
(35:24):
yards in their game. Of course, the Bills have the
Colts in the first game on Saturday. The last game
on Saturday, Bertie and the Bucks have Washington. This is
game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. Get rid of
football quickly. Boys, they're coming. They're absolutely positively coming coming
after him. Uh, all right, I got some NBA stuff
(35:45):
for you. Let's see what else we got coming up.
I like that. I like that. Huh, Doug got leave
show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming coming up next. Um,
I understand that we all want to sprinkle some magic
pixie dust on a team and we think, we think
that the reason there's so many you know, half the
(36:07):
teams that make the playoffs on a given year don't
make it the next year. And that's because the turnaround
is quick. There's one word that is the key to
building a winner in the NFL. I'll share with you
what that one word is. Up coming next in the
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Radio power behind us. Let let me start with this.
Jason Kelsey had a really interesting post kind of trying
to put to bed some of the rumors about what
really went on the sidelines in Philadelphia this past weekend
with with this post quote. At no point was anything
from me or anyone else confrontation. And we all knew
leading in the game that Sudfeld was told to be
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ready to play, and that Doug wanted to see what
he could do in a game situation. All of us
during the week leading up, we're excited for Nate, a
guy who's been with us for four years, to get
an opportunity in real game to show the world what
he can do. I understand the optics and how it looked,
and I'd be lying if I wasn't a little surprised
given the circumstance that the move happened when it did.
But every one of us did our best, and all
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of us believe we can win with Nate Sudfeld. I'm
just gonna tell you, like, as a coach, I've actually
been there before between youth basketball, where you're trying to
get everybody in and get him a you know, but
when you get somebody in, sometimes it ruins the momentum
and it can turn a win into a loss. Um
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from from that too, when I've coached the team, when
I first started on Fox Sports Radio in Israel where
we went to a championship and I didn't get guys
in because I didn't want what happened to Sudfelt to happen.
Where you have a guy who's earned the right to
play and you want to get him a taste of
what it's like. You want to give him, but it's
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it's really it's hard. But that's the job. Um. Miles Sanders,
talented running back for the Eagles. He had this to
say on w i P yesterday, an honest nobody liked
nobody and that's how That's all I could say. Really,
But um, I don't know what what was the who
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was the main person behind that decision? But all that
all I know is a lot of people on the
team was was confused that they were confused. I'll also
point like part of what this is what happens with Cam,
it's a little bit of what happened with Jalen Hurts.
Like Jalen Hurts has been a public figure for five
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years now, from starting as a freshman at Alabama Okay
to getting benched on national TV, and then in the
national and against Georgia, right to all the kind of
the back and forth the next year, then transferring to
Oklahoma and having a good amount of success at OU.
You know, one of the things you run into is
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there's a there's a clear break between Jason Kelsey, who's
an old time pro and as the center like he
knows most demos. Kind of the deal as supposed to
Miles Sanders, who Jalen Hurts is his age, his contemporary.
He's seen him play and ball out at the college level,
so he assumes that he's the guy. Never like Nate
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Sudfeld has been the third string quarterback and been hurt
and he wasn't. He's only been there in the last
two years. He wasn't. He didn't have a stutfelt when
Sudfeld first came in. Um is Jalen Hurts the future
quarterback of the Eagles? If you say yes, you're just
clouded by the fact that there was energy when he
took over. Right. Jalen Hurts stats in a game he
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started this season all right completion percentage, eight total touchdowns,
nine turn hours. Doug Peterson has been the head coach
of the Eagles for about five years now. He's had
three quarterback controversies. Carson Wentz once out, which would count
thirty four million against the cap if he's traded, and
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Doug Peterson's record is twenty nine and thirty four. Keep
in mind that Anthony and Lynn was just fired by
the lh Jers in a better division, and he was
I believe thirty was it thirty two and thirty four
or thirty and thirty two is two games below five hundred.
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The crazy thing is that the Eagles had that one
outlier season of winning all those games, and he win
twelve games and then winning a Super Bowl, and that's
really the outlier. The rest is is who he is.
But it's it's more like the reason Anthony Lynn was
fired was more than about record as a person. He's
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he's too good a person to be a head coach
in the NFL. He's that good a person. But whether
it was the fact that Lynn was completely married to
his assistant coaches and wouldn't make moves, including a special
teams coach, just some of the decision making at the
end of games, like yeah, I mean Anthony Lynn just
he was fired on Monday and nobody batted an eye
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Doug Peterson, like, look, when you're the you're the head
coach in the NFL X and L's is like the
fifteen thing on the list. Maybe not that far down
the list for for Doug Peterson's the former quarterback and uh,
but he wasn't. He wasn't a play caller in Kansas
City when he got the jobs. They didn't bring him
in for his play calling. They brought him in because
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as a former backup quarterback, he was supposed to completely
get the deal, and he's butchered the deal. I would
even hold some of the over the top celebrations, some
some of the overt top celebrations when they won the
Super Bowl on Doug Peterson. You're like, hey, how's that fair?
These are grown men, because guys will do exactly what
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they're allowed to do. Yes, Rob Gronkowski would be a
drunken mess on the floats when the Patriots would win.
But I don't remember. I don't remember some of the commentary,
like Lane Johnson had some of the things that Jason
Kelsey did you know what a good dressed up in
that the green suit, you know, calling out everybody like
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it was a long time coming for the city of Philadelphia.
It was a great super when you did it with
a backup quarterback. You had a great season coming off
of firing Chip Kelly. Like all of those things were good,
but so many of these missteps they don't all fall
on the plate of the head coach, but enough of
it does to where you're like, all right, he's gotta go.
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All right, he's gotta go. I just I were examining
the quarterback and we should be examining the coach. And
what's painfully obvious to me here was it probably wasn't
completely his call, but he did in fact agree to it.
I'm gonna get sut Felt in. I want to get
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sut Feled in. And then you didn't feel like the
timing was right, and then you stuck him in and
the team stunk up the joint and you didn't put
Jalen Hurts back in, and it just it's no balled
on you in a hurry. It can happen, can absolutely happen,
but let's not allow it to make us think that
Jalen Hurts is suddenly the guy. And oh yeah, by
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the way, Jalen Hurts is getting you know, credit for
saying it's just not right right, you can see and
he also said it's bs you can see his like,
did you ever see Carson Wentz when he was benched
mutter those things in the sideline? Of course not, you
know why, because that that's not what That's not what
professionals do. And we're not giving I'm not gonna give
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Jalen Hurts a pass. He had to handle in college,
so he's been through before. He should know how to
handle in the pros. But the number one guy in
charge of the dysfunction in Philadelphia is absolutely Doug Peterson.
And when you're that for you, when you're five games
below five, when you've had three quarterback controversies, and I
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will grant you they have had massive injury issues as well.
It's not all on his plate. But enough of it is,
enough of it is Stug gotlip show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, the Dolphins stand by their decision to
draft to us and make him the future of their franchise.
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I'm gonna yesterday, I spent a good amount of time
telling you I'm just I don't know, but you know what,
I made some calls, taking some thought kind of like
the decision. I'll tell you why next. Be sure to
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and the I Heart Radio ah app Doug Gottlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Look, I I don't want to.
I'm not bailing on to it just yet. I wanted to,
I really did. But I also and some of this
is having you know, Trent On you Trent deal for
on Yesterday where he's like, you know, if you don't
practice vertical routes, it's kind of hard to throw Rickle
(10:00):
routes in games. And and one of the look there
there's a couple of things. None of these guys were
able to succeed on their own, right, Like there's just
this idea that you put a great quarterback in and
he just produces because he's dumb. I mean, I love
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the people. Look, I've come out as fairly critical of
Deshaun Watson. And for the record, I think if when
I said on the Dan Patrick Show, I'm not sure
he's a top ten quarterback, he's a top ten quarter
top ten quarter he's not in he you cannot convince me,
can I convince me that he's one of the super
uber elites, and you sit there and go away. Well, hey, Doug,
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look at the numbers that he put up hold on.
I was told that he didn't have weapons around him,
that trading DeAndre Hopkins was the end of the world.
But the fact is that Bill O'Brien did a really
good job of though he got guys that were oft injured,
he got played any pieces for him. The problem was
not all of the different pieces that he like. When
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David Johnson is healthy, he's a stud. He just wasn't
healthy enough. You know, your best wide receiver test, you
know test positive for PDS. Brandon Cooks is always hurt,
like he just trained for guys are too hurt. And
then the defense was in shambles. But Bill Bryant got
fired because of his personality, not not because of wins
and losses. What happens though, is though, look, Deshaun Watson
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super talented, but he didn't put up those numbers by himself.
You gotta have a line, and of course they reconstructed
that line starting last year with the Laramie Tunsil trade,
which is one of the things which is gonna hold
them back in the future. I say that because if
you look at the reconstruction of the Miami Dolphins. Chris
ger came out yesterday and said, too is our guy
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starting quarterback next year? And and look, I haven't been sold,
but if I'm holding to a stock, I also don't
sell it right now. Jared Goff did not look like
a competent quarterback in his first year. Now you could
sit here and tell me that Jared Goff doesn't look
at a competent quarterback. Now, Um, look, I don't think
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he's great, but he's a lot better than he played
in that first year. And what did they do? They
Jeff Fisher's system basically was everybody get open. There was
no rhyme or reason or scheme or plant like. It
just didn't feel. And I like coach Fisher, I've got
a chance to know. We're friends. He texts me from
the far reaches of like Montana and stop. He's a
good dude. But their offense was just not It was
(12:37):
rudimentary for two thousand twenty whatever it was two thousand
fifteen and was still rudimentry. Then nobody does this stuff alone. Right.
Aaron Rodgers is great. Look at how there his production
drops off when he doesn't have Davante Adams. Okay, go
around and like what does Tom Brady at this late
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stage in his career, what does he need when he
Mike Evans and Antonio Brown and whom I forgetting Chris
Godwin like the whole reason he left doing those Like
I can't do this, but like I can't do it
by myself. I can't. No one can do it by themselves.
So look, can you name? Actually? This is here's a
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really good test. This is a really really good test.
I'm guessing he's gonna probably probably nail this, Okay, so
forgive me if if he gets these? All right, Dan Buyer, Um,
the Miami Dolphins this year, can you how many of
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their top five wide receiver, top five pass catchers? Can
you name? Uh? Davante Parker Okay, Preston Williams, good good,
good job out of you, Jachim Grant, Kim Grant, Texas Tech,
Mike is SICKI Mike Sicky tight end. Yeah. Um, and
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I'll say, uh Adam schheen, uh Adam Sheheen. I mean
he had twelve catcher Okay, so if we did yeah,
I mean they're there top pass catch pass catchers are
in order, DeVante Parker, Mike ja Sicky, Miles Gaskins, Jim
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Grant and Lynn Bowden, jr. Isaiah Ford, then Durham Smythe,
then Preston Williams, then Mack Hollins, then Adam Sheen. The
point the point is like, look, they're rebuilding a roster,
completely completely gutted a roster, and DeVante Parker has been
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hanging around and they drafted just just Sicky I think
three years ago or two years ago, a very athletic
and talented tight end. And Parker they've kind of hung
on to. He was often injured early on and now
he's kind of the old vet. He's fine, he's solid.
I mean they threw him a hundred times, he caught
it sixty three. He's okay. But but the resources of
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that team, basically they spent all the money and all
the resources on the defense, which is you know, Brian Floores,
the defensive guys weren't defensive coordinator. And then they went
and hired you know, Chan Gailey has been doing it forever,
and they said, hey, here, we'll give you a stud
rookie quarterback. You guys figure it out. So do I
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think two will look great? No, But I also think
that Miami did him no favors. They didn't look at
what Cincinnati did. In comparison, Cincinnati drafted a wide receiver
who had a great year in the second round. Cincinnati's coach, however, flawed,
is an offensive coach. And they still had a j Green,
they still had talented running backs. They had all these guys,
and then you put Joe burrowing, and Joe Burrow plays
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pretty well. They're not a good team, but he played well.
You look at what the charges of un Like Dude,
the Chargers have Hunter Henry on a franchise tag at
at tight end. They have Keenan Allen, who's a perennial
Pro bowler at one wide receiver. They have Mike Williams
is gonna make a bunch of money as another wide receiver,
you know. And they have Austin Ekeler who's a long
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time solution at running back. He's a good pass catcher.
Like they went and got dudes for him early in
his career. So it's it's hard to see how much
of it is about the play collar is a little
is a little along in the tooth, the talents not
quite there around him, but too it doesn't look all
that good. I think that's a fair way to look
(16:38):
at it. So I understand why many are jumping off
the to a train. But I will only tell you that.
My guess is, you change offensive coordinators, you put some
of your resources behind the offense. You get him some
more toys to play with, and they'll be a there'll
be a jump in year two. That's just a guess.
Tom Flores is a legendary coach, just want to super
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Bowl with the Raiders and kind of have to spend
some time with this part of his partnership with Coors
Light to help lobby to be the first Latino quarterback
slash head coach to be inducted into the NFL Hall
of Fame. As part of the effort, of course, Tom's
gonna be featured in limited edition beer cans. Coach, How
are you? I'm doing pretty good. I'm pretty good. How
(17:20):
are you doing? And it's crazy crazy, we're how can
you do you broadcast everything from your studio? No, we're
at home. We've done a bunch of studio, but but
we're at home. We're we're very much safe. At home. Yeah,
so you how are you? How is your health? Is
your healthcome? Yeah, my health is good. You know, we're
(17:40):
I'm finding out whether I like my wife or not
because we've been together as so much as sure, and
I guess I do because we've been married almost sixty years.
You know. It's interesting and congratulations on on fifty nine
years together. Um, what's interesting is we're in a during
this time, I'm where guys are interviewing for head coaching jobs.
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What how did you get the Raider's job because you
were the wide receiver's coach before you got the job,
and you're with the Bills, but you had never been
a head coach before. How did you get the job? Well,
I got a job by being a Raider. Most of
my life I was a player. I played for Rold
Davis when he was a coach, and then I had
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been there for seven years with John Madden as an
assistant coach. I knew the system. Um, I was loyal
and you know I had I had. I had a
key to the front door, so I got myself into
in the building and uh, I went from there. I
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convinced all that I could do the job, and that
wasn't not easy to do and all day it was
not easy guy to work for. No, he was he
was not. Um. It took you just two years to
win a Super Bowl? What what what is that like
when when those years come together? Did you know it
early on? Like this has a chance to be won
two of them? Did you do you know early on
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this has a chance to be something special? Well? Not?
In nineteen eighty three, we had a great team. We
were loaded from day one. We struggled, we traded stable.
We uh and we've got Dan Passerini. He broke his leg.
We had Plunkett as a backup, and we resurrected him,
(19:32):
dusted him off. And we had a lot of guys
that are on their last leg. And I thought that
was our finest hour as far as coaching and uh
and putting a group of guys together that uh up.
Sean Shell had one year left to give us a
Bobby Channer, we got him. Uh. We're in a couple
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of trades. The Cliff Frans still had a lot of
gas in his tanking, and so we little by little
we were able to do it. It was a wild card,
hard way and uh. And only did we do it
by outscoring the Chargers that year, and they were dynamite.
Their offense was dying. We couldn't stop their offense, but
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we did by out scoring them in their hometown as
a wild card team that year. You you you mentioned
that you resurrected Jim Plunkett. We're seeing some quarterbacks need
to be resurrected. Of course, Jim pluckle in the high
school trophy had Uh, it was a long time pro.
How do you go about resurrecting a quarterback who who
maybe and some of so much of its confidence, you
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know where you have to reinstill kind of their self
confidence and put them in position to to get those
old feelings back. Well, that's it. Put them in position,
give him a positive position to be in and then
you surrounded with players that that play well and they
(20:53):
can make plays, big plays for you. And uh, you
were just talking about that earlier quarterback. He's not going
to do it alone. Abby Chandler gave us a great
year that year. He was our second coming of bulletinic
at that time. Receiver Cliff Branch there was an outstanding
receiver with great, great speed, Raymond Chester. We got him
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back and so he gave US pro bowled year at
the tight end spot. And uh and then Kenny King
we got him and he made some big place for us.
So he and guys that made a big place for us,
along with our defensive player Ted Hendricks still had a
big play possibilities and he made big plays for us.
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So we didn't do it alone. We had enough talent
and we got enough town to get it done for
that year. Uh. And so the Resurrection needed a lot
of guys that were able to help him Jim get
that done. Uh. Tom Floris, this legendary reader's coach, a
part of Bud Light's campaign to put him in the
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Pro Football Hall of Fame, become the first Luteam. I'm
a school coors Light. He coors Lights a campaign to
put him into the Pro Football Hall of Pro Football
Hall of Fame. Um. Okay, so the most one of
the most memorable run in super history of my lifetime.
I'm forty four years old. Yeah, I'm from southern California.
And and John Ramos would be sitting across from me.
(22:22):
He's my uh, he's my board op and and he
I'm sure he's nodding his head right now, like we
both there's one play that's anonymous with you guys winning
the Super Bowl in four and Tampa Florida against the
Washington Redskins. It was seventeen, uh seventeen, Bob Tray, Oh right,
that's the that's the Marcus Allen run where he goes
one way and then he turns around and goes the
(22:43):
other way and runs for a touchdown. But that was
That's not the design of the play, right, It's a
a simple it's a simple. It's not counter traite like
like the Redskins ran, but it's it's your power play.
I want the truth. When Marcus starts going the opposite way,
were you doing the no? No, no, no, no, no, no, yes, absolutely,
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what do you think I saw? I saw at the
start that the play got blown up at the line
of scream, and I said, oh, I want to see
exactly what I said. And then he reversed the speed
and he picks up Big Jim Plunkett as his personal
protector as he comes romping across the end. I said,
(23:27):
oh no, and I'm just hoping that he gets back
to the last scream. And I said, oh, well wow,
And all of a sudden we went crazy and saw that,
I went crazy and that was that was this We're
meant to be. It was a great run, great instinct
to make that kind of decisions for those kind of decisions,
(23:47):
which Marcus had always had that and and that that
team was was pretty well loaded, and that we had
some really good players. How how far away are these
Raiders from being competitive at the top of the NFL
in your opinion, Well, we got we have a ways
to go. We got a lot of kids that just
(24:07):
don't know how to play the game the way the
way it should be playing. They think they're going to
play the game by just whacking somebody hard or hitting
somebody as hard as they can on defense, and then
they're missing tackles and out of position. They got to
grow up, maturity, They have the mature and they got
have enough speed. They got a lot of speed. Um
(24:28):
offensive line. Obviously you always need a good offensive line,
but they have to protect the quarterback. Without that, you
don't have anything that Derek Carr has proven that if
he's protected, he can he can get the job done.
Whether he can take him all the way, I don't know.
I can answer. That's a tough things. There's a lot
of good quarterbacks. A lot of good young quarterbacks coming
(24:50):
in the lake. And the one thing that you do
if you have one of those blue ship quarterbacks is
make sure you get the guys to protect him and
make plays for him all the Why why would you
draft him? I I don't know. It's it's it's a
very very good question. UM. I know Coure's life obviously
is behind this campaign, but what what would it mean
to you to be the first Latino player coach to
(25:11):
be in that profit Ball of Fame. It would be
a lot. I mean, it would be the you know,
a dream come true, UM, lifelong dream and um, who
would have ever thought? I didn't even knew there was
pro football. I was growing up in the sam Joaquin Valley.
But here here I am with a chance to go
(25:32):
to you know, being a and uh in a room
with a lot of incredible, incredible players and personalities and people.
So it would mean a lot to myself, the reader nation,
my family, and my my friends and and I already
(25:53):
thank Coure's life for this, for their their can contribution
to h to this us a minute last week or
two push before the final vote, and then we'll see
what happens. I'm just excited about it. I'm I'm excited
a bunch of fact that we're actually having a Super
Bowl this year. Really is this impressive? And of course
(26:13):
the Super Bowl in Tampa, a place where you won
your last Super Bowl with the Raiders with that famous
Marcus Allen run of dominating performance over what was the
then defending champion Washington Redskins. Coach continued health with you
and your wife, and we could not tell you how
much we appreciate you join us and giving us your
thoughts on the current state of the game, the Raiders
(26:33):
and uh on on your historic runs to immortality. Hope
you hope begetting that pro football of him. Get get
a call from Big Dave Baker. Thanks so much for
joining us. All right, I appreciate it. Thank you, and
happy New Year and stay safe yourself. All right. Thanks.
That's that's coach Tom Flores. Now here's something. Here's something
that you guys don't know. Okay, we'll let you a
(26:55):
little bit of secret. So my sister Wendy used to
work for the Raiders and she one of her first
jobs was she produced the games, the radio broadcast of
the games for a company called neider neider Lander. Um,
I think needer Lander Productions whatever anyway, Um, Amy Trask
(27:19):
who was their CEO? And then she became I think
they're CFO anyway, Amy Trash. She my sister end up
becoming her number two in marketing. Now, my sister is
very bright. She comes from a obviously sports family, a
cheerleader in college. But again, I haven't done this is
(27:40):
terrible whatever out there anyway? All right, So they moved
from l A to Oakland, and of course she knows
the coach flores Is, He's in on the meeting. Of
course she knows who coached. Coach Davis is Al Davis Is,
He's in on the meeting, Amy Trash on me. So
they have this meeting where they have all the big
sponsors from the Bay area to introduce the Raiders to
(28:02):
the sponsors. And she kind of organized it all and
she made sure we get the right catering and the
right people there, and Coach Davis would come Al Davis
would come by and he talked and so, um, she
felt the need for everybody to go around the room
and introduce themselves. So there's no who is that guy? Right?
They go all the way around the room, and the
(28:23):
last person is Jim Plunkett. And Jim Plunkett didn't introduce himself.
He was just very nice shaking everybody's hand or whatever.
So of my sister says, and you are. They go
all around the room. You know, He's like, I'm Jim,
I'm from sales of the Chevy place down the street.
(28:45):
I'm Bill, I'm from Silicon Valley. I'm with Apple you know. Um,
and you are. He's like Jim Plunkett, Heisman Trophy winner,
super m v P. How are you nice to meet you?
I sold her out. She's gonna kill me. Uh more,
bad news for a playoff team in the NFL. I'll
share with you next. Be sure to catch the live
(29:07):
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific. Doug Gotlip Show rolls on here on
Fox Sports Tradio. I hope you're having a spectacular day. Um,
it's an odd day in our country, there's no question
about that. My thanks to legendary Raiders head coach Tom
Flora's joining us, and um, this kind of matter of facts,
(29:29):
like yeah, you know it was always right ear they
just naming head coach. That honestly is what we forget.
Do you guys remember what happened with the Raiders and
Lane Kiffin? Here's how here's um. Ramos probably remembers, I know,
buy are definitely remembers. So music you're are you still
(29:51):
twenty eight? Am? Okay, so you're twenty years old? Um?
Do you know Lane kill? Did you know the Lane Kiffin?
Do you remember Lank even was the head coach of
the Raiders. I do remember that very briefly. Yes. Do
you remember how it ended? I do not. I only
remember his infamous USC firing. He's been fired in amazing
(30:11):
fashion from two places and he left Tennessee, like in
the middle of the night, right like it's really remarkable.
So he was five and fifteen as a coach of
the Raiders. But when he got fired, like there was
a bunch of different stuff too, Ramas, what do you
remember about it? The firing from the Raiders? I just remember.
(30:36):
I don't know about the fire, but I remember like
they sue Al Davis or something like that for that,
or he did. That's what I remember. Okay. What do
you buy or what do you remember? I thought I
remember like a overhead projector point presentation. Something wasn't power point.
No no, no, no, no, it wasn't power point. Do
you remember? Okay, So again this is where the difference
in the age gap is. And I don't know music
(30:56):
when you were in school, like when we were kids,
like people used to have these overhead projectors and put
this little film over the overhead projector. We had overhead
projector and then you you you could draw on the
little film thing withever like a dry eras marker kind
of right. That's before they had the white boards, which
became the smart boards, right and now and power point,
but we didn't have power point presentations. Al Davis breaks
(31:17):
out an old school projector and he says, not only
is Lane Kiven a bad coach, but he's a liah, right,
and he starts going through the things that he lied about,
like to the media. And then they basically hired Tom Cable.
He was the offensive line coach, and they just like
he didn't know anything about Tom. He just kind of
like read his resume. He's like, you know, they tell
me he's pretty good, so we're gonna try it. That
(31:39):
was it. It was just the most random stuff you've
ever seen. Let's get to a game, Sack. This is
game time Tide on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right,
what do we got there, Dan, Doug? The game today
is real news? Fake news? All right, dougrail news or
(32:00):
fake news. Giants owner John Marras says they are still
evaluating GM Dave Gettleman in the entire front office. That's
fake news. Yes. Mara says that Gettleman will be back
for his fourth season. Giants won six games this past year,
won six and ten, fifteen and thirty three, and his
three years as the Giants general manager. Um, I do think,
(32:24):
I do think that. Um, they look like they're close, right,
I mean they look like they're clothes that would but
they without sake Kwan Barkley. This year, they've built from
the lines out. They his him keeping his job is
gonna depend upon one thing, one thing, and um, you
(32:49):
know it's not there four computer folks. Remember he had
the hired four computer folks. You work at analytics. It's
gonna depend on Daniel Jones not turn the ball over
so much. They do that, they'll win more games to
keep his job. Ye. I'd actually argue they did it
the opposite way. Because they brought in Barkley, then they
went Jones, and then they went to believe Andrew Thomas.
Uh with their tackle, So they drafted their quarterback and
(33:10):
running back. They drafted their running back and quarterback first
and then they're like, all right, then let's fill out
the team. But um, I think with their other picks
that they they they had, they revamped the whole thing.
If I remember Crickey, Yes, this year they drafted not
just Andrew Thomas, but it was also Matt perk uh Pert.
But they if you go back, uh, what was it
(33:34):
se Kwon Barkley, They drapped Will Hernandez in his first
year as well, so will Hernandez a starting guard. And
then they drafted Lamou and Pert and Thomas this year,
so you're right, Um, they also Dexter Lawrence was a
draft pick. You know, they've missed on some but but
that's the that's the thing. Dougrilled loser, fake news. Brown's
teammates Jedrick Wills and Rochard Higgins were started for drag
(33:57):
racing you know the team facility on Tuesday, Yes they're yes. Now.
Higgins had to delete some sweets saying one said foot
slip the other said was trying to get away from COVID.
Will's said, you're all blowing this way out of proportion.
How hast they gone? I don't know if it was.
(34:18):
I didn't see the actual uh speed that it was,
but um yeah, yeah, I just I mean, okay, yeah,
here's here's one uh Ryan music. When I say the
name Bobby Fills, you know who Bobby Fills us, that's
gonna be a no gonna be a no buyer. Remember
(34:39):
Bobby Fills. Yeah, well that's yeah exactly. This incident reminded
me of that. Him and David Wesley. Right, Bobby Phills
was an NBA player. Guy was like guy had like
one of those bodies were like, dude, that's that's the
after picture for any workout video played at Southern Right
made it to the NBA second round pick and he
crashed his car. They were drag racing, you know, they're
racing each there. Uh. He and David Wesley after a
(35:02):
practice with the Charlotte Hornets and he died. Anyway, it
really happened, Doug. I we'll wrap up with this. Real
news are fake news. Bet Online is Tom Brady and
Josh Allen is the odds on favorites to throw for
the most passing yards in a wild card weekend. That
sounds like real news. Yeah, both listed at four to
one with the best odds to throw for the most
(35:24):
yards in their game. Of course, the Bills have the
Colts in the first game on Saturday. The last game
on Saturday, Bertie and the Bucks have Washington. This is
game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. Get rid of
football quickly. Boys, they're coming. They're absolutely positively coming coming
after him. Uh, all right, I got some NBA stuff
(35:45):
for you. Let's see what else we got coming up.
I like that. I like that. Huh, Doug got leave
show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming coming up next. Um,
I understand that we all want to sprinkle some magic
pixie dust on a team and we think, we think
that the reason there's so many you know, half the
(36:07):
teams that make the playoffs on a given year don't
make it the next year. And that's because the turnaround
is quick. There's one word that is the key to
building a winner in the NFL. I'll share with you
what that one word is. Up coming next in the
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