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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, am I beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton
We're looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about
how the economy is going. Marcus has some car park consumes,
and then I think we'll finish the week and the
podcast with some podcast roulette. But before any of that,
(00:47):
this police scandal. The more that comes out, the more scandalous.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It seems so kind of vaguely if I'm being generous,
and I'm not particularly feeling all that generous, but as
a as an intellectual exercise, I'll try and be generous.
I can see that to interfere with a matter that's
before the court, making something disappear and go away as
(01:15):
shades of exactly why the top brass had been cleared out.
But come on now, the fact that she has to
defend these charges, I'm sure it was very distressing for
the police officer and his wife to be inundated with emails,
and goodness knows what was said in it. They were
(01:41):
what was that lovely word that Jared Servig used about
the emails that he received incoherent So there was a
lot of high drama and a motive language used in
the emails. God only knows what was said, but she
had been driven unhinged by what had happened to her
(02:02):
in terms of not being spoken to, not being listened to,
not being regarded. Surely there has to be an element
of mercy in this. I mean, even if she has
to go through the whole process of appearing before court,
any kind of conviction against her name would be a
gross miscourage of justice.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Can I be perfectly honest with you, every time somebody
starts talking about this story, I stick my fingers in
my ears and go yet la la la, la, la,
la la, Because the whole thing is so grubby. I
just want to pretend that it never happened.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
News talk ze been just as well.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't have my own show and actually have to
talk about it. Like you know, Perry and Heather.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And the police are having to defend this now. The
charges don't relate to messages that she sent about MC skimming.
Those charges are being dropped. They relate to messages that
she allegedly sent to another policeman, the officer who originally
arrested her, and emails she allegedly sent to his wife. Now,
this is un doubtedly going to look bad for police
(03:10):
because it will look like they are still persecuting a victim.
But how about we take the emotion out of it
and look at it again. Just because Jeff mcskimming is
a creep and clearly the villain of the story doesn't
mean that she is necessarily innocent. I mean, look at
the allegations. Allegedly emailing a police officer is one thing.
Allegedly emailing his wife is something else. And this is
(03:32):
after some pretty bunny boiler behavior, including sending three hundred
emails to mcskimming and others over a series of years. Now,
there will be some people who have complete sympathy for
her in this, who will say that the allegations show
that she is a woman driven mad by being ignored
and gas lit by the very people as she was
asking for help. And that may well be true, and
I suspect that it is, and I feel sorry for her,
(03:55):
and I feel sorry for the horrible situation that Jeff mcskimming,
the absolute creep has put her in, but I still
don't think it justifies alleged law breaking as a response,
because that logic is the very same logic that is
used by the soft judges who read cultural rapport about
offenders childhoods and then excuse them for what they did
because what it was originally done to them when they
were kids. Do you follow what I'm saying now? Having
(04:15):
said all of that, if you're of the view that
she only sent a bunch of emails, so who really cares?
Then why do we have the law? Now that's a
fair debate. We can have a debate about that law,
because not everyone loves the Harmful Digital Communications Act. But
if the law exists, and if you allegedly break that
law and the police, despite realizing how bad it will
look for them to charge you, still choose to charge you,
(04:37):
then isn't there a case to answer?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
L la la, la, la la la. Have they finished?
They finished? Right? Let's move on with the rest of
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You've talk side.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
How's that economy going? I think with all these green shoots,
oh my goodness, you can't see the barren, absolutely toxic
wasteland underneath all these green shoots. Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
There are those on the left who say that is
way too little. Basically, we should orrow more, forget about
a debt ceiling, borrow more, throw it at the public service,
create some jobs, any jobs, who cares, just get them
out there, right And that's what Karne is doing in
Canada right now. His budget would double the debt position
debt to GDP ratio. They've got Trump tariffs coming at them,
(05:25):
they've got weak domestic demand. So he's basically getting out
the defib and he's trying to revive the economy and
make no mistake, if a labor led government were to
get and that is exactly what they would be doing here,
maybe not to the same extent. The problem is we
don't know. Chris Hopkins has said, yeah, we need to
invest more, Yeah, Knes and economics, et cetera, et cetera,
(05:47):
but how much don't know? To party Maldi and the
Greens you know, will make sure that they do more
and on spend the money on what That is the question. Now,
remember Robertson had a debt ceiling thirty percent of GDP.
Well that didn't go very well. Didn't last very long,
did it. The fact is it's quite popular to spend money.
It sounds like you're doing something. The more you spend,
(06:08):
the more U care. That's the kind of prevalent theory,
isn't it. Actually, if you look at average public debt,
the ratio to GDP for big economies advanced economies, it's
roughly one hundred and ten percent, So we are way
under that. But we need to remember we're a small country.
We're a trading country. We are exposed, and we're in
the middle of a trade wall. Let's not forget. What
(06:31):
we need is headroom. Now, morning Star, they've just given
the government the triple A credit rating. They said as much.
And as for those banks we've been talking about this
week making massive profits and everyone's saying, oh, it's so evil,
it's so nasty. Well, turns out in the same morning
Star report, it's actually quite important that we have profitable banks.
Morning Star says that we've weathered this housing market correction
(06:54):
so well because in part of well capitalized banks that
are also very liquid that have strong buffers to absorb losses.
So not all is as it seems. Bank profits and
a sly stingy government insisting on returning the books to
surplus not only keep our interest rates down but also
(07:16):
help keep us afloat.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Are we in the middle of a trade war? I mean,
if we are, I think we sort of Switzerland and
the trade war, aren't we? We're just sort of keeping
our heads down and hope that none of the flat
really hits us. Keep making the best wine in the
world and the best meat in the world and the
(07:38):
best dairy in the world, and hope that people are
prepared to buy those things at any cost, and that
what would I feel like That's what we're doing. Certainly,
I've heard somebody talk about that a lot from the
breakfast show that I work at. Right, two more serious
matters now, Marcus and his car backing concerns.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Call it that rang last night after eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I don't know what they might have.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Been, So she said, or lives close to living. She
went to the live in pack and save sometime recently.
And she's a slow shopper. There's five in the family.
She's a slow shopper, right, So she went to the
car barge. It's one of those small pack and saves.
It's a pack and Save Express or something, not like
the big ones. So she went to Peck and Save
(08:28):
and she shopped, and she's what she always does. She's
a thorough shopper. She's a label reader. So she went
around the shop and she did her shop, and she
spends fortnightly between three and five hundred dollars. Will that
be one trolley or two? She might be a double trolleyer.
So around she goes bit of this, bit of that.
(08:49):
Oh that looks good, I'll buy some of that. And
she went had a shop like she does. She's fairly organized.
I don't know. She's not a budget but she's she's
considered with what she purchases. And then she left and
went to her car and then she went home. However,
(09:09):
she since received a parking ticket for eighty five dollars
for overstaying her sixty minute limit at that car park.
I don't know about laws or talts or whatever. I
would have thought, if you're going to pack and save
to shop, you are protected for as long as you
(09:30):
are going to shop at that shop.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
There's got to be a limit. I can't backmark us
on that one. To be fair, there's a lot of
red flags. The double trolley people know if you're buying
so much stuff, that you require two trolleys, You need
two people. You can't be trying to manage two trolleys around.
It's just, let's just anti social behavior. I mean's if
(09:57):
she's why is it once a fortnite? Obviously needs to
go every week like I do, like a normal person does.
Have not multiple t the week like a normal person does.
At sixty minutes, I must have met that is at
the lower end. I remember getting a ticket when I
(10:20):
went to see Avatar, and I disputed it. It was
a three hour parking limit at the Westfield where I went,
and of course the Evatar movie is extremely long. And
I wrote to them and I said, look, I just
went to the movie, came out and I had a ticket.
(10:44):
We've been longer than three hours. I didn't know it
was going to be longer than three hours. You can't
And they agreed.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
News Talk been.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
All right podcast?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Really at time?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What is the biggest threat to humanity? Let's see if
Dallas knows.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
A terrifying notion is the idea of limited nuclear war?
You know that's that's a terrifying idea and a false one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Isn't it limited?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Limited?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
New Q?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Well, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Ellas you know that you can, you can take out
another small country and not affect anyone. And I think
a lot of young people might have this notion, you know,
from who haven't seen the destructive effects of nuclear that
we have. But I agree that the biggest threat is
(11:34):
humanity itself, but not all humans. It's only those humans
who feel specially called to be special, superior to everyone else,
or either them or their country, or their ethnic group
or their religion the superior to everything else. This is
the greatest threat because from that, if you feel called
(11:57):
by higher power to fulfill God's will on earth, you
know through your eyes, that's a very terrifying notion.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
It's interesting, though, isn't it, because there's been a decline
in believing in God and our country particularly and acline
in church going. Do you worry that there's a saying
that there's a god like God sized hole in everyone's
heart and it can be filled with spirituality, But now
people seem to be filling that hole with politics.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
It can kind of have that effect where people become
zealots for whatever particular tribe they've decided to decide to
sign up to on the political spectrum.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it gets philosophical sometimes on the afternoon show, doesn't it.
I sometimes wonder if they should swap with Marcus's show.
I feel like the eight to midnight slots that's when
you should be getting philosophical about things. I don't know
if I think the afternoon it's too early in the
day to be talking about God's size, holes in your heart?
(13:09):
How you reckon here as I record this at four
fifty seven AM, definitely too really, So I'm going to
leave it there. You can have whatever philosophical debates you
want over the weekend and we'll we'll take up this
conversation again on Monday. H O product will have forgotten
(13:30):
completely that it's happened, and we'll be talking about stuff
that's happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Then use Talking Talking Said Beam for more from News
Talk Said b Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, am I beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton
We're looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about
how the economy is going. Marcus has some car park consumes,
and then I think we'll finish the week and the
podcast with some podcast roulette. But before any of that,
(00:47):
this police scandal. The more that comes out, the more scandalous.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It seems so kind of vaguely if I'm being generous,
and I'm not particularly feeling all that generous, but as
a as an intellectual exercise, I'll try and be generous.
I can see that to interfere with a matter that's
before the court, making something disappear and go away as
(01:15):
shades of exactly why the top brass had been cleared out.
But come on now, the fact that she has to
defend these charges, I'm sure it was very distressing for
the police officer and his wife to be inundated with emails,
and goodness knows what was said in it. They were
(01:41):
what was that lovely word that Jared Servig used about
the emails that he received incoherent So there was a
lot of high drama and a motive language used in
the emails. God only knows what was said, but she
had been driven unhinged by what had happened to her
(02:02):
in terms of not being spoken to, not being listened to,
not being regarded. Surely there has to be an element
of mercy in this. I mean, even if she has
to go through the whole process of appearing before court,
any kind of conviction against her name would be a
gross miscourage of justice.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Can I be perfectly honest with you, every time somebody
starts talking about this story, I stick my fingers in
my ears and go yet la la la, la, la,
la la, Because the whole thing is so grubby. I
just want to pretend that it never happened.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
News talk ze been just as well.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't have my own show and actually have to
talk about it. Like you know, Perry and Heather.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And the police are having to defend this now. The
charges don't relate to messages that she sent about MC skimming.
Those charges are being dropped. They relate to messages that
she allegedly sent to another policeman, the officer who originally
arrested her, and emails she allegedly sent to his wife. Now,
this is un doubtedly going to look bad for police
(03:10):
because it will look like they are still persecuting a victim.
But how about we take the emotion out of it
and look at it again. Just because Jeff mcskimming is
a creep and clearly the villain of the story doesn't
mean that she is necessarily innocent. I mean, look at
the allegations. Allegedly emailing a police officer is one thing.
Allegedly emailing his wife is something else. And this is
(03:32):
after some pretty bunny boiler behavior, including sending three hundred
emails to mcskimming and others over a series of years. Now,
there will be some people who have complete sympathy for
her in this, who will say that the allegations show
that she is a woman driven mad by being ignored
and gas lit by the very people as she was
asking for help. And that may well be true, and
I suspect that it is, and I feel sorry for her,
(03:55):
and I feel sorry for the horrible situation that Jeff mcskimming,
the absolute creep has put her in, but I still
don't think it justifies alleged law breaking as a response,
because that logic is the very same logic that is
used by the soft judges who read cultural rapport about
offenders childhoods and then excuse them for what they did
because what it was originally done to them when they
were kids. Do you follow what I'm saying now? Having
(04:15):
said all of that, if you're of the view that
she only sent a bunch of emails, so who really cares?
Then why do we have the law? Now that's a
fair debate. We can have a debate about that law,
because not everyone loves the Harmful Digital Communications Act. But
if the law exists, and if you allegedly break that
law and the police, despite realizing how bad it will
look for them to charge you, still choose to charge you,
(04:37):
then isn't there a case to answer?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
L la la, la, la la la. Have they finished?
They finished? Right? Let's move on with the rest of
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You've talk side.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
How's that economy going? I think with all these green shoots,
oh my goodness, you can't see the barren, absolutely toxic
wasteland underneath all these green shoots. Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
There are those on the left who say that is
way too little. Basically, we should orrow more, forget about
a debt ceiling, borrow more, throw it at the public service,
create some jobs, any jobs, who cares, just get them
out there, right And that's what Karne is doing in
Canada right now. His budget would double the debt position
debt to GDP ratio. They've got Trump tariffs coming at them,
(05:25):
they've got weak domestic demand. So he's basically getting out
the defib and he's trying to revive the economy and
make no mistake, if a labor led government were to
get and that is exactly what they would be doing here,
maybe not to the same extent. The problem is we
don't know. Chris Hopkins has said, yeah, we need to
invest more, Yeah, Knes and economics, et cetera, et cetera,
(05:47):
but how much don't know? To party Maldi and the
Greens you know, will make sure that they do more
and on spend the money on what That is the question. Now,
remember Robertson had a debt ceiling thirty percent of GDP.
Well that didn't go very well. Didn't last very long,
did it. The fact is it's quite popular to spend money.
It sounds like you're doing something. The more you spend,
(06:08):
the more U care. That's the kind of prevalent theory,
isn't it. Actually, if you look at average public debt,
the ratio to GDP for big economies advanced economies, it's
roughly one hundred and ten percent, So we are way
under that. But we need to remember we're a small country.
We're a trading country. We are exposed, and we're in
the middle of a trade wall. Let's not forget. What
(06:31):
we need is headroom. Now, morning Star, they've just given
the government the triple A credit rating. They said as much.
And as for those banks we've been talking about this
week making massive profits and everyone's saying, oh, it's so evil,
it's so nasty. Well, turns out in the same morning
Star report, it's actually quite important that we have profitable banks.
Morning Star says that we've weathered this housing market correction
(06:54):
so well because in part of well capitalized banks that
are also very liquid that have strong buffers to absorb losses.
So not all is as it seems. Bank profits and
a sly stingy government insisting on returning the books to
surplus not only keep our interest rates down but also
(07:16):
help keep us afloat.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Are we in the middle of a trade war? I mean,
if we are, I think we sort of Switzerland and
the trade war, aren't we? We're just sort of keeping
our heads down and hope that none of the flat
really hits us. Keep making the best wine in the
world and the best meat in the world and the
(07:38):
best dairy in the world, and hope that people are
prepared to buy those things at any cost, and that
what would I feel like That's what we're doing. Certainly,
I've heard somebody talk about that a lot from the
breakfast show that I work at. Right, two more serious
matters now, Marcus and his car backing concerns.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Call it that rang last night after eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I don't know what they might have.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Been, So she said, or lives close to living. She
went to the live in pack and save sometime recently.
And she's a slow shopper. There's five in the family.
She's a slow shopper, right, So she went to the
car barge. It's one of those small pack and saves.
It's a pack and Save Express or something, not like
the big ones. So she went to Peck and Save
(08:28):
and she shopped, and she's what she always does. She's
a thorough shopper. She's a label reader. So she went
around the shop and she did her shop, and she
spends fortnightly between three and five hundred dollars. Will that
be one trolley or two? She might be a double trolleyer.
So around she goes bit of this, bit of that.
(08:49):
Oh that looks good, I'll buy some of that. And
she went had a shop like she does. She's fairly organized.
I don't know. She's not a budget but she's she's
considered with what she purchases. And then she left and
went to her car and then she went home. However,
(09:09):
she since received a parking ticket for eighty five dollars
for overstaying her sixty minute limit at that car park.
I don't know about laws or talts or whatever. I
would have thought, if you're going to pack and save
to shop, you are protected for as long as you
(09:30):
are going to shop at that shop.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
There's got to be a limit. I can't backmark us
on that one. To be fair, there's a lot of
red flags. The double trolley people know if you're buying
so much stuff, that you require two trolleys, You need
two people. You can't be trying to manage two trolleys around.
It's just, let's just anti social behavior. I mean's if
(09:57):
she's why is it once a fortnite? Obviously needs to
go every week like I do, like a normal person does.
Have not multiple t the week like a normal person does.
At sixty minutes, I must have met that is at
the lower end. I remember getting a ticket when I
(10:20):
went to see Avatar, and I disputed it. It was
a three hour parking limit at the Westfield where I went,
and of course the Evatar movie is extremely long. And
I wrote to them and I said, look, I just
went to the movie, came out and I had a ticket.
(10:44):
We've been longer than three hours. I didn't know it
was going to be longer than three hours. You can't
And they agreed.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
News Talk been.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
All right podcast?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Really at time?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What is the biggest threat to humanity? Let's see if
Dallas knows.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
A terrifying notion is the idea of limited nuclear war?
You know that's that's a terrifying idea and a false one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Isn't it limited?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Limited?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
New Q?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Well, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Ellas you know that you can, you can take out
another small country and not affect anyone. And I think
a lot of young people might have this notion, you know,
from who haven't seen the destructive effects of nuclear that
we have. But I agree that the biggest threat is
(11:34):
humanity itself, but not all humans. It's only those humans
who feel specially called to be special, superior to everyone else,
or either them or their country, or their ethnic group
or their religion the superior to everything else. This is
the greatest threat because from that, if you feel called
(11:57):
by higher power to fulfill God's will on earth, you
know through your eyes, that's a very terrifying notion.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
It's interesting, though, isn't it, because there's been a decline
in believing in God and our country particularly and acline
in church going. Do you worry that there's a saying
that there's a god like God sized hole in everyone's
heart and it can be filled with spirituality, But now
people seem to be filling that hole with politics.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
It can kind of have that effect where people become
zealots for whatever particular tribe they've decided to decide to
sign up to on the political spectrum.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it gets philosophical sometimes on the afternoon show, doesn't it.
I sometimes wonder if they should swap with Marcus's show.
I feel like the eight to midnight slots that's when
you should be getting philosophical about things. I don't know
if I think the afternoon it's too early in the
day to be talking about God's size, holes in your heart?
(13:09):
How you reckon here as I record this at four
fifty seven AM, definitely too really, So I'm going to
leave it there. You can have whatever philosophical debates you
want over the weekend and we'll we'll take up this
conversation again on Monday. H O product will have forgotten
(13:30):
completely that it's happened, and we'll be talking about stuff
that's happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Then use Talking Talking Said Beam for more from News
Talk Said b Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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