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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Could somebody make heads or tails out of this thing?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Where was the school?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I know it's in Chesapeake, Chitam Elementary in Chesapeake. A
hired photographer taking photos at Chitam Elementary in Chesapeake was
escorted off school property for making quote inappropriate comments to students.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh now I know where everybody's mind is going. Sexual.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The school responded to inquiries over a Facebook post from
a woman who claims that she is.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A Chesapeake school's parent.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
She wrote that the photographer asked her son, Now, I
don't know, I mean the kids in elementary school, but
I don't think I know what grade the kids in, right,
But I'm assuming are they doing like class pictures or
something like that? I mean yesterday, okay, so it's got
to be like class photos or something. So anyway they
bring in the photography company or whatever. And he asked
(01:10):
one of the kids, can I steal your identity?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
What? What a weird thing to say to a kid. Oh,
it's going to get worse to anybody, that's true, But
it just it seems that extra for a kid.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Would a kid even know what that means?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Was he trying to get him to laugh and smile
for the photo.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh like hang hang, and then they use a lot
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Like that wasn't working. So it was like, can I
steal your identity? I don't know if that would make
me laugh?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, it's maybe above their head.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, I don't think the kid, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't say yeah, I don't think it says what
grade the kid? Is?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It just elementary?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, they don't there it is.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They don't necessarily know what identity theft is?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Can I steal your identity? Then?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
By the way, if that were it, you'd be like, okay,
that's a touch odd, but it keeps going.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Would you report just that?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Would I reported? Now?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Would Jackie say something to the school?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Really, I don't think so. I don't think so, because
they have a lot of information.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You've had to fill out those pamphlets with which package
you want to buy?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The Oh what was the because you can pay extra
for the air brushing.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Right, the I don't know. We just got bottom of
the seven five wallet.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The Yeah, no, I mean whatever, like all the all
the bougie kids got Package A and B. We were
down by like X and Y. Yeah, we were all
the way down at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Your mom didn't want a key chain. No, the this
umuch better than my daughter's stories from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The no.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
They were like, the kid won't take his hood off,
a kid won't get his picture taken. A kid won't
stop smile or stop crying.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right, Oh, what did they do? Actually?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Nex Lindsay was there also U for the PTA.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
She asked any of the kids if she could steal
their identity? Yeah, she said.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The photography company was great. They do this for a living. Yeah,
they know how to handle this. And if they ultimately
cannot get a kid to sit, they note that in
the log of.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Photos being did and then they just don't get a picture.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
By the way, Jackie.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Had a girlfriend growing up, not in that way, but
a friend that's a girl growing up growing up who
married a guy I can't remember what his name was,
but he owned one of those photography companies in Houston.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Wow, he made bank, Dude, he made bank.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
And I guess if you get a contract with a
school system.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That And by the way, they also do like athletics
and stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
They team bank.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Absolutely, they're often also the company nowadays attached to the
yearbook the.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh he did yearbook photos.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, so they wouldn't do just the photos they have
then the software, the productions. You have access to their
database that has all of those class photo I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
If he did or not. I also think they ended
up getting divorce.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Anyway, I still your identity.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I hate my wife the But no, I'm not reporting that.
Is Lindsay reporting that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, really, you just don't want someone on campus
who's talking like okay, he's trying to make the kids smile.
There was one kid who was in kindergarten full suit.
Oh oh no, hi, Tyler, No, my mom used to
make me wear sweaters. I never was in a suit
for a class photo, ty though. I was in no
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no tie, just a nice shirt and then a sweater
over top, and that was it.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was always funny to go through the yearbook and
be like, you really you wore that T shirt for
school pictures?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Okay, Elliott, Yes, yes, yeah, no I never dressed up
for the school.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well who's no one's gonna want your identity.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You're poor, food.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Stamps, bring it on, bring it on. The so anyway,
so anyway, you said it got worse. Oh yeah, no,
that's that, but again it's not it's not it's not
sexual in nature, it's not it's not sexual.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
The so beyond asking for their identity, the no, can
I steal your identity?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Okay, which again to me, I just look at it,
go like all right, whatever, No, got.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Your nose, got your identity?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
How about this? How about this?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
All right?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So we've gotten through that, right, we've gotten through that.
So he says to the boy, can I steal your identity?
And then I don't know, the mom doesn't say what
the kid's response was. So then he says, okay, can
I eat your soul? Oh weird, Now we're getting somewhere.
(05:43):
Maybe you should have reported the first inquiry.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The and I mean, it's got to be the same
as it has been since the beginning of time, where
it's not like there's every other kid is standing there
in line waiting to go in, right, or waiting to
get on the stool. So the other kids are hearing this,
well that.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Always the kid who went to the bathroom to freshen
up and missed the queue, I was a little shining.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Uh so then the I guess, so, so I don't
have the hole back and forth, but he says, can
I eat your soul? And I guess the kid must
have said like no or huh do or whatever. So
then the photographer asked him, if not your soul, what
can I eat? The boy responded, I don't know, noodles.
(06:40):
And what did the photographers say after that?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, again you said this is not sexual, No, not
at all.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Demons don't eat noodles, oh boy.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And that's when the kid reported it.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Okay, Now I'm saying, so God, what a weird thing
to say to anybody, But.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
A kid in high school you might be like, all right,
like that in this was in middle school, right, no, no,
no reading the room?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Or was a goth kid?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh hi Diana? No no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But I'm saying, like, in high school you could probably
get away with that, like that's that's I don't know,
it's fun.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not in four.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Could I eat your soul? Nobody in high.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
School is like, uh, oh, you're weird.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
In elementary school, that's a problem. So then the kid,
the kid, I guess, I guess the kid reported that,
And then then of course Karen had to be all
over Facebook.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
How did there's teachers, there's helpers who are usually parents.
How did no one else hear the exchange?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Maybe maybe he was being quiet, like maybe he leaned
in and was like.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Can I eat your soul? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
How about noodles?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I wouldn't have gone back to school for weeks?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Demons donat noodles?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Did he say it like that? The they don't say
like he was the devil.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Will when you imagine it isn't well, demons don't eat noodles.
Let's kind of have like a weird tone to it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I want him to have a weird tone, like you,
if you're going in, go in.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As a photographer responded.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The once reported school administration immediately addressed the issue and
the individual was escorted off school property. Parents of students
who reported the concern were notified. Uh the photography company
is now investigating the incident. They don't name the photography company,
which I wish they would have. The principal said, we
(08:53):
want to commend our students for quickly reporting the incident.
We are thankful that our messaging of Sam Milkman sees
something say something was effectively used in this situation. They
the the reporters have reached out to the photography company, police,
and the parent who posted it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Karen did not want her name to be used for
the story.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
That is legitimate. Yeah, that's not somebody being a Karen.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh no, no, I don't. I don't know. I don't
know what her I don't know what her name is.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
An I picked.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Uh. The school did not comment. Uh, the photography company
did not comment. And lastly BL's abub did not comment.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So they had to postpone the photos and that hadn't
taken place yet.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, unless there's a second photographer.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh, I thought just the whole operation was asked to leave. Oh,
if it were me, I'd keep it going, keep it going, sweater.
Let's get the devil out of here, and then we'll.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
We'll keep going.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I like, in what are we going to learn that
this is all just a well?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Are we we're going to be funny?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well? Yes, number one, Like, hey, you know what, like
normally I shoot older kids.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like pictures.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I didn't read the audience right, so maybe you know, like,
well I I I made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Are we going to find out the kid was lying?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
That's pretty elaborate.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Let's look at the kids grades for creative writing, because
if they're not a's.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And that is a story.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That is a young I guess that is a young
age to kind of go into a lie like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
No, there's young, absolutely, But if this kid ends up
being like first second, that's that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's a good story to get into. Am I going
to line one? Let me do that. Hi, Elliott in
the morning?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Is this me? Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It is? Who is this?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Hey, this is this is Doug and Richmond?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, sir? What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I am a.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
School photographer here and Richmond actually pulling up to a
school as we speak. And we deal with that kind
of stuff kind of all the time. We certainly don't
say those things, but you definitely have to be careful
what you say, how you say it, when you say it,
and who you say it too.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
When you say we deal with things like this all
the time, and take out the can I steal your
identity and eat your soul?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Are you talking about? You deal with like kids who
try to nark on you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yes, kids that will you know when you're in the room,
they have their buddy taking pictures of you. And we
basically changed our policy that we won't even like fix
hair or fix the shirt collar because that can be misunderstood.
And you see them in the right frame absolutely absolutely
(11:56):
protect themselves. Yeah they did, right, Yeah, I mean it's yeah.
We years ago, we were actually photographing a school and
this is when we before we instilled the sort of
no touch policy and a high up administrator came in.
It was just observing what we were doing, and it
was actually me that happened to be adjusting this girl's hair,
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just kind offer shoulder, and I got a phone call
that day from the school that said, yeah, that's super
you know, inappropriate. Uh, you know for those just to
pop their head in to see that, you know, you'd
never you know, you completely misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, it's it's crazy. So now we have the deal
where just through verbal cues and obviously hamm him, it's like, hey,
fix your hair or you know, like if a broad
strap showing no way, but you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Can't even mention that. I was gonna say, you can't
even mention that. No, no, shoulder boulder holder, Like you
can't even.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Have fun with that.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
No, no, no, you can't, you can't at all.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But then don't you get parents who were like, oh,
they couldn't tell my daughter that her bird was showing.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Right, Yeah. Oh, I'll get an email and just say,
you know, I'm not sure if you were the photographer,
but my daughter's raw strap is showing. Is there anything
can be done with that? Can that be retouched?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
For seventeen ninety nine? Didn't touch in the first place? Yeah,
I saw it, but I didn't say nothing. You know,
we got that no touch policy.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Right well, and not to mention, you should see how
half of them dress.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, well that's the kids. Yeah, I couldn't do I
couldn't buried. Well, never mind, Dollie, let's let that go
all right, Very good, very good. I appreciate it. Thank you,
Phoe talk. Yes, Tyler, how did your.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Story linked to the original post by the mother?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, no, I don't have the post because.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
There's a comment here that reads reading the mom's post
makes it pretty clear this interaction wasn't remotely malicious. Oh so,
now there's a lot of people that say, this is disgusting.
Why do our kids have to deal with this insanity
where they're just trying to get an education?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Amen?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I am just going off of what you read.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That's all that I have. That's all that I have.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now the mother, it's not like the mother's words were
taken out of context. People are saying that she overreacted.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So, but does it have the post?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I don't see the posts.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh so, so the guy was just screwing around.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There are a lot of people that's saying. They're saying
photographers do make silly jokes all the time, and some
of them get a bit odd because they spend all
day trying to come up with something different.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Right, and you're dealing with kids. They're awkward anyway. Now
imagine that in a fun way. Hey, so can I
eat your soul? And the kids like no, Well then
what can I eat noodles? Well, you know, you know,
demons don't eat noodles, Billy, Yeah no. In that in
that context, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Actually, can you can you retouch the tears?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Because if you if you take it in the can
I use your soul? Demons don't eat noodles? Like, then
it's like oh god.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But if it's like, oh good, come on, Jamie, you
know demons don't eat noodles.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
A lot of people are using the two words and
nut and job. I don't know if they're referring to demons,
don't eat nuts, a mother, or the photographer. But honestly
a lot of people are standing up for the photographer.
Oh really, but you have to also read the room.
He did read the room. Everybody's putting their own tone
(15:41):
on it. I'm telling you this could be Karen these
but these are young kids. I'm saying, I don't read
the room like these are elementary school students versus.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
There's a lot more mature maturity than you give credit for.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hmm, man, I'll just tell my daughter her story.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
So so okay, So now you've got people that are
saying this woman overreacted.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was all playful and fun. Now we're good with it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that's based on obviously none of these people were
in the room. But these are people that clearly have
seen her own words.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I think that I haven't seen her post. I
haven't seen her post.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Is I don't want to say exaggerating, but she has
She may be making out of mole Hill the effect. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Can I steal your identity?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh wait? Is this it? Did somebody just send it?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This must be it because the first line is I
considered not posting, here we go. What's mom's name?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Karen? No?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You could say it? Who cares?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh, here's hey.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's Rachel Field and with it. But it's not feel dispelled, weird?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh, here we go, Here we go. The second line
sort of sets the table.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Here we go, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Let me start by saying, Satan is real.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh so is that what this is?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It may?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh so this is we are full of and I
mean this with no.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Disrespect to anybody that is but this is full on God.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Squad ayeah, and it doesn't fear from that avenue. Mm hmmm.
So yeah, demons are real. The world is dark and
they're preying on our kids.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
The okay? So that okay?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Well, and that case no, but that that that that's
unfair to say. That's unfair to say because she may
be a woman of devout faith.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
She is right, no, but then yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She also has to understand that there may the intent
may not have been although if she believes in demons.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Uh, many people do that obviously can't separate maybe what
was a joke from their real.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
True that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You think Joel Ostein would have laughed at that, not
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, God told my son that
this wasn't right. Yes, so now I understand people's reactions
to the post. Right, and the News didn't really do
it justice by not including that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She's all God's quotes from the right. Okay, so now
I get both sides.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh, however, it does say here when you have Jesus
in your heart, there is no room for fear. Oh
well remind your.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Son, Yeah, no fear in your heart.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
But uh, looks like pussy got soft there.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
She probably wish she would have phrased it differently.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So this is one of those both sides. I get
both sides. I get both sides.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's kind of like doing a speech at a wedding.
You have to know the audience.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, ninety nine percent of the kids at that school
aren't gs.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But maybe we just leave uh evil out.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Of our jokes.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Noodles will say something.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Else like what, oh, can I eat your feet?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
That's where I think he has a fetish?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Are my feet even in the photo He's only taking
photos of our shoes?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Now, I may be team photographer here, I know I'm
being serious.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I see a lot of people are while they're upset
that may understand.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I understand where the woman's coming from, but I think
I'm team photographer.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm not ready to ruin this guy's business.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And that's exactly what people are also saying on the
post from the news story. They're frustrated they didn't include
the original woman's comments, but they are happy they did
not name the company photography company.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, because they I mean, that's playful. Like I said,
that's wrong context.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think the school though overreacted by immediately escorting Yeah,
I think you have to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think you have to just and then have a
little investigation the no schools have resources for that, right the.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
No, I don't think I would have had. I would
have said, hey, you know what, let's uh. I don't
I don't know if Timmy's other friend, if Rachel's kids
got a lot of GS friends, so let's curb the
demon talk.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But yeah, no, I would have been fine with it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Michael wants to know if the child was a redhead
and the photographer knew there wasn't even a soul to steal. Okay,
that's a great point.