We're all about understanding student loans in this episode! We confront our own loan confusion and get expert advice from Heather Jarvis, a lawyer and student loan consultant who who offers student debt training and advice. Then we hear how the federal government thinks about student debt from former Department of Education Undersecretary Ted Mitchell, who oversaw the ENTIRETY of federal student aid from 2014 to 2017. And to cap it off, we learn how Navient, the biggest student loan servicer around, was fined millions of dollars for shady methods around handling student loans. Do you have ideas for money or finance topics we should cover? Send us an email at firstname.lastname@example.org.