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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Westlift Service. I'm Angela Yee.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm g G Maguire, I'm Jordie.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Geor come one.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Life is so funny, but like unintentionally funny. You just
say stuff like whatever comes to your mind. We were
watching the remastered Redone version of Must Be Nice and
and when you just, uh, there was one person that's
in the video and you talked about like what they're
you know, you were talking about what everybody's doing now
from the original video, right, and you said one of the.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Worst h.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nah, that lady, that lady had told me, like that
was really happened when I left the joint, that lady
talking about you'll be back.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's awful. Well, listen, that was a long time ago.
That was in the nineties, right in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was your whole life.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Just about she wasn't even born yet, just about two
thirds of it at least.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But that's a life changing experience as much as like
you know, it is something we would never wish on anyone.
But at the same time, that's where you discoverage your
love for music.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Absolutely absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I wonder what you would have been doing, like if
that hadn't if you ever would have said I'm going
to sing.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't even want to know. I don't even want
to know. But who knows. Like I used to teach English, abe,
you know what I'm saying, Math and English. So I
was a teacher, I like, you know, giving people stuff
that can make them successful. So maybe I would have
been a teacher.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, that's what I went to school for, too nice
major and I wanted to be a teacher.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Wow. Yeah, English is something else because even when I
write like that, English is always important. You could put
a punctuation at the end that it changed the whole
meaning of.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
A sentence, you know, I always say, no matter what
you do in life, writing is one of the most
important skills that you can have. If you're doing marketing,
if you're doing finance, just being able to send out emails,
you know, whatever it is that you do. It's so
important to be able to write well because a lot
of people can't do it, especially now, I feel like
with phones and with everybody, like with the autocorrect and
(02:13):
AI can write things for you so you don't even
got to write it yourself, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right right, But you're looking real regal right now, bro?
You know, like you said, have one of those yess
on them long ass sticks with a cigarette on the
end and you be smoking shit. Man, oh I'm listening.
We're back to English.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, back to that, but well, congratulations on deciding to
So are you going to redo like your first album
all over again for you? Because I know it has
to do with masters and ownership. Can you talk about
redoing Must be Nice twenty years later and why you
did that?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah? I think one of the reasons why is because,
like you said, I want to own the masters. I
want to eat with them cats like they've been eating
off for me for so long. And that's why you
got the ao U at the end. The AOU is
for artists owned umbrella. So every time anybody see that AOU,
when you stream that or buy that, that goes straight
to the artists, you know. And then also we're living
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in the time. But these kids just would look at
the world and get the impression like it just is
no hope, And I just want to remind them that
it wasn't always like this, Like you can get back
to a place what Must be Nice came out, You
can still go to house parties. The worst thing you
had to worry about was getting stumped out in the
house party, but you're gonna live. It wasn't no guns,
block off the street and have block parties, open the
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fire hydrant, and I just wanted that nostalgic. We can
get back to this man. But you know, it's just
start with you.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We still had landlines in our houses back in two
thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You couldn't even if I call and you was on
the phone, that thing busy.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Unless you did an emergency breakthrough. People got caught like that. Yeah,
you do emergency breakthroughs. He was on the phone with
somebody else and then as an emergency breakthrough from life.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's back with the mamas. I call their daughters. The
mama's just be pretending like they was their daughters on
the phone. I'd be like this, don't even sound like you.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now, why would that happen?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You get caught up a few times.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
A couple of times they mama pretending like they daughter.
Then when you figure them out, they like, what you
want with my daughter?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What you want with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I think anybody would have been scared of their daughter
talking to like, you know, especially obviously you were younger then, right,
and you have daughters.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I got a she's about to be sixteen this month.
Twenty second.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
How is that with dating for her? Now?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Nobody talks more than a fifteen year old girl. Let
me start there. You could be, You could be soon
a moment that you get in the car, she's going
to be talking to the moment you open the door
to get out. But ironically, my daughter has never said
anything about a boy.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I wouldn't either. I'll not tell you that, maybe not
to you my dad, like Jennison.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Never, I never saw it like. She has never said
I gave such and such my number, But she tells me,
like a lot of guys, my daughter's beautiful. But she's
never said I gave a guy my number, or can
I go out with this guy? She's never said she.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Might got a little high school crush that you don't
know about.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
She she haven't discovered boys.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Okay, So what are you gonna say when she asks
you about, you know, going on her first date?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Huh? Glad she talked for the moment you get in
a car, because I wasn't talking to my dad when
I was missen. You just think about it like coming up, Well,
you love Georgia.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm very close to my so.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But that's nice, Like, clearly your daughter has a great
relationship with you to want to talk to you even
though she's not telling you about.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Her crush, even though she's not telling you about her
except when it feels that first date.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
We ain't even there yet.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know what you were like at her age? How
old were you when you first started talking to girls?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
When I first started talking to girls, it's gonna be
so crazy because I wind up going to prison at fourteen.
I had just start talking to girls at thirteen, so
I only got like a whole year run and then
you know it was cut short.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So fourteen years old? Did you go to jail at
fourteen or you were or you committed a crime at fourteen?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Uh? Jail at fourteen?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sheesh? So they sent it you as an adult?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I had other shit going on before that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Why were you like that?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
What in your life were you doing? Were you running
with the wrong people?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think I discovered money too early. You know, you
know how you'll get kids and you'll better be like
they have a one hundred dollar bill and you could
be like, yo, I got three quarters, let me trade
you for that one hundred dollar bill. They don't know
they'd give you the three quarters. I discovered the value
of money too early, so I was really trying to
get to the money, to.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The real money.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And this is in Toledo, Yeah, Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Okay. And what it like your family situation? You grew
up with your mom, your dad, like who was in
your life?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I grew up like with my moms and my grandmama.
When my mama didn't want me there, yeah, then when
my grandmama got tired of me, I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Backing back at your right. And that had to be
such a disappointment too, because you were so young and
I know you were the baby. So it's kind of like,
we don't want to see this happen, but what are we.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Going to do with him?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, cause you know, at the same time, I mean
I discovered the money at the same time I discovered
my emotions, like you know, and so you be dealing
with so much shit like like for me, it was
just like, you know, damn, why do I feel like this.
I'm sad about this, I'm happy about this. So I
was just going through shit, man, That's all, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And then so fourteen years old, you go to jail.
You had to be like the youngest person in there.
You went to a juvenile facility, you went to grown
man jail.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I went to grown man jail.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
First, No, I didn't stay till I was eighteen at juvenile.
I went to juneole first. I stayed there for a
little while, but then once my cage got boumed over,
then you know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Sheeh, I was thinking because I read Wallow's book recently
where he talked about being really young and you know,
messing up a lot going to Julie, and you think
it's not that serious, so you just keep on messing up. Eighteen, Yeah,
and then you go to jail and it's very serious.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Because well, you know, you know, and it's so crazy.
It's a delicate time because everything is fun when you're
that young, you know what I'm saying, Like, going to jail,
like that shit is fun because it's new. But then
when that shit gets old, that's when that shit really
hits you. And by the time I turned like eighteen nineteen,
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that's when I looked up and like, God damn, I'm
about to be in prison for a long ass time.
This shit got old. You know quick Yeah, not that
quick though, but quick enough. Man.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know, how did you learn the rules? Like of
but you because he was telling his book he talks
a lot about out like learning what you can and
can't do and how to avoid any type of conflicts.
You know, for you, what was that like? And did
you know a lot of people? Because did your family?
You know how sometimes you go in and you know
people from the block or in the neighborhood, or people
who are protecting you and looking out for you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's another thing. When I got there, I knew everybody. Hey,
you know you when you get to prison, and this
is why kids keep on coming back. Everybody that was
like hey, it was like a part. It's like you
came home from college or something. My uncles was down there.
My uncles uncles was heavy down there too, right, so
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they doing life bitch down there. And I get down
there and it was like when I came, I wasn't
really blocking no smoke because it wasn't like punishment no more.
Was like okay, cool. But then again, after about four
five years, everybody start going home and you still there.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You just like that, yeah, you know, and when you
came home.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It was like the first thing that you did after that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
First Like most people would think, after you did eleven years,
you'll be coming home. You try to smash something. But
I hadn't been having sex but for like a year.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You were so young, right, so I wasn't ain't little
girl holding you down.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So the most important it's gonna sound weird, man, but
I'm gonna stay this shit. The most important thing that
I wanted to get was touched, okay, because affection, Yeah,
some kind of touch, you know, because from somebody other
than my mama, Like my mama used to come see me.
But just to have somebody touch you in an intimate way,
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that's what I was really crazing for, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And you made that happen.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, I made.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So, you know, being you were fourteen and you got
out when you're twenty five, right, four twenty five, when
did you have your first real relationship ship?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
It's hard to say, see, y'all, y'all don't want to
hear no real nigga shit because the way that y'all
women think that okay, the way that women who smoke
long cigarettes, it's not the way this ship worked like
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educate us. My first real relationship wasn't what I thought
was my first real relationship. You know what I'm saying.
It was really like for me, I think that every
man's first couple of relationships are not real. It's just
him shifting through trying to find what it is that
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he wants in a woman. He might think that he
in love, but he in love with a particular thing.
He's in love because love is available. He did know
what I'm saying to where love wasn't available before. You know,
but then when you get in this, when your first
serious is honestly it's gonna trip you out. My first
serious relationship was when I wasn't in love in the beginning. Okay,
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you know, because damn she gonna she gonna be mad
when I say this shit right, But when I got
with my children's mother, I wasn't in love with her.
That was my first riode. I wasn't in love with
her first. It was just out of duty. And that
was my first real relationship because I had the question,
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why don't I love this woman right here? Like I
done had kids with it? It seemed like that I kind
of owe it to her. You know, she it's my spin,
so why don't I feel this part of it either?
But that was my first real relationship because that was
my first relationship challenge that I had to show up
for that. Couldn't nobody else show up for that. My
mama couldn't tell my mama show up for this, So
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my friends and nothing, I literally had to show up.
So that was my first real relationship. You can learn
when I came, when I came home, So that had
to be like twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You were still pretty right, because y'all learn did you
try to learn to love? Because sometimes you try to
like make yourself be in love because you feel like
this is where I'm supposed to be and what I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Supposed to man, many times because you just be trying
to just convince yourself for this ship. Like oh yeah,
but bro, she got some nice needs. Man, you can't
run you got them?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
You don't, man, You're trying. There had to be something there.
You had children by her.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, no, no, she's a great woman, like you don't
don't don't get me wrong, I just think for me,
you weren't in love and I don't even like maybe
you know because like you said, sometimes I just be
saying ship and it just be sound and wrong. So
maybe not in love is the wrong thing. But what
I'm saying is I spent most of my life in
the penitentiary, and when I got home, I was the
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age of somebody that should be ready to settle down.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You were still learning yourself, the man.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I wasn't like, I hadn't even been fucking for a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Year before you.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So and then she like, this is gonna sound crazy too,
but it is the truth. I never even had my digs.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Up before you.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Wow, I mean before no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sorry, we don't want to get.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
They do have CEOs, you know, but what's your c
o c o Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Wasn't nobody that does happen?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I hear a lot of stories, you see it on
the news.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So, speaking of that experience, how was that for you?
Your first time receiving room getting hit?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Do you still remember?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's when I fell in love?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Let me tell you how to Let me tell you
how it happened. So I came down, I did the
pollow whatever, and his I was trying to mess with
his mama, like sexually. Of course, while we was down
here doing apollow. So she was always on some no ship, right,
So I won the whole pollo. One night we had dinner,
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won the whole apollo and it was somebody from a
label in the audience or the label had a meeting
with us that night, and I'm just like, damn, like,
this ship is about to pop. We had the little
dinner and ship and then so she hit my phone,
like she got up to use the bathroom and she
hit my phone and ship and she's like, come here
for a second, I just want to tell you something,
blah blah blah. And I'm like, where you actually, like
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in the back, And I went to the back in
the bathroom and the ship just popped off. Boy. I thought, boy.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Wow, immediately this is the deal.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I've been missing out.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, so you know, you just be so quick to
I was just gonna say how long did that last?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Long?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It was? It was a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
They were like, where do you go? Does he want
to sign this deal? Still?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right? Yeah? Man? We had a lot of good experiences, man,
And I hate you know how you you you have
a lot of your first because she's with me when
I got my first deal. She she created a lot
of the opportunities that I expanded upon. She didn't do everything,
But I'm like like other niggas that say she didn't
do nothing. She wasn't with me shooting in the gym.
She wasn't with me when I was shooting in the gym,
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But when I came out to the gym, she did
have that goddamn towl. Like that's you know what I'm saying,
And that's worth something, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So definitely is y'all been through a lot?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, And I hate it because you know you again,
like you asked me about to reimagine must be nice.
It just rewinds you to a time and you just
like whenever you think of that personal out of what
you still think about, just rewind you to a time
when shi it was simpler.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Man, you know, can.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You imagine that was your first time at a restaurant?
Were you addicted? You think after that?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like absolutely?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now what about the first time you performed oral on
her or on a woman?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Let me see, I don't remember that memory. That one
as good as that bathroom.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
The excitement of it, Like come to the bathroom and
you're like all right, like because you know we're outside,
you know there's people around, but I gotta do this
on the low, you know, the thrill.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's one of those kind of bathroom like the bathroom
was like it was glass so you could see if
somebody was in there or not. But then when you
hit this button, the whole glass.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Just frost up.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
This is as like.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
This. I want to go back. It was in New
York too. You know they filmed Apollo in New York.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's in Harlem.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know what spot that was.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
But now, what about what about the first time you
really feel like you were in love?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
First time it was with her again?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Again?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, because I think I didn't. I didn't fall in
love with her because she was a good looking girl.
Don't get me wrong. I didn't fall in love with
her for that. I didn't fall in love with her
because it's some sexual stuff or something like that. I
really fell in love with her because she was devoted.
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You didn't know what I'm saying, Like didn't again, Like
y'all don't know, not to classify y'all, But with a man,
a man gonna go where his peace and where he
feels needed. You know what I'm saying, and she made
me feel needed, like even just some small ship, like damn,
I can't get this jar open, you know what I'm
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saying or asking me, Hey, you know I'm having a
couple of problems with my mom. What do you thinking
about this?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It just felt like my opinion necessary, right.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm necessary, And that's when I fell in love with
the idea of having somebody that needs you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I was necessary, and then also feeling like you can
ask for things to Yeah, bom, can we do that again?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I really wish sometimes with women man that at least
like maybe one time a month or something, you could
just pull your man's, your significant others man's mind out
of and just observe it for a second. Yeah, I
would want that because I would want you to see
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that so many of the futile arguments, so many of
the do I look fast in this and let me
go do this because I think he's gonna like it,
like you, instead of me having to say it and
hurt your feelings behind that ship because I'm so blunt.
You asked me, like, maybe do I love fat in this? Yes?
You fat as hell in that? Take that like.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You can say that's not the most bright or I
like this stress better.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But I want to be that confidant to you.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Nigge wanted it right.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I want you to know when I say some ship,
I mean that ship. I don't want you to be
able to help go have to get a second opinion.
Like my nigga said this ship and he meant that ship,
and he's not gonna fucking lie to me because it's
more important to him than it is.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Would you want that same honesty in return, Like if
you were like, this is the best thing you ever
had and she's like, I say, third.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Not doing the process. Maybe what you're using your.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Thumb h I feel like, in the same sense that
you say that men need to feel needed, I feel
like women want to feel desired more than anything. Like
I feel like we ask those questions because we want
to still know where that chick in your life. You
know what I'm saying, that's going to be getting that
thrill in the bathroom, dada da da. So when you
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don't say those things regularly, I feel like we set
up scenarios to get the answer that we're looking for
because we're not necessarily getting that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But it's so hard. Let me tell you something. I
mean that's cool. Sometimes I mean I feel it, and
I do. I do feel like dealing dealing with women.
I'm gonna compliment you when it's time to compliment you,
but it's always something in the back of my mind,
and I feel like it's like this with all guys.
When we compliment you too much and give you too
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much of what you want, then you tend to feel
like you have conquered this part of your life and
now your eyes is looking on who conquered next. Just
feel like I get that gives an example. As soon
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as I'm doing everything that you want me to do,
whether it's monetaria, whether it's physical or whatever, then all
of a sudden, you start treating me different. Now my
jokes ain't as funny. Now, it ain't like it ain't
as many thank yous as it used to be. You know,
I'm not priority no more because it just feel like, Okay,
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I did this, and now it's that dude that don't
really show you no attention, that you don't even really
want it, just that he don't show you as much attention,
and then you feel like that he don't think you
are tracked so now I feel like, in my little spirit,
my little post spirit, that I got to cut down
on my compliments and cut down on the amount of things
I do.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
That sounds like you were just with the wrong women.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's been, but it's been several of them that's exactly
the same. It's like a game.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do you think it's the kind of women you like,
A type of woman that you like.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know, but I do like holes. Oh God,
see a niggas, no boys, But I just I swear
to God, bro. And I'm probably only saying this from
the you know, the little shot of patrol that I had,
But I really I'm reserved with niggas because of that,
not only just females. Like I just feel like even
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with niggas, I don't really deal with a lot of niggas,
And I'm so aggressive with niggas and females because I
feel like, as soon as you befriend the nigga, he
think's sweet all a sudden, Like he think he think
that because you nice twin, because you might call him
like nigga, I was just checking on you to make
sure everything was cool. Now he think he got some
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kind of win. He owe you some money, and this
nigga he would be at the strip club next to you,
throwing ones. And I'm like, I'm in my mind, I
ain't saying nothing to but in my mind I'm steaming,
like niggas, you want me forty dollars if it's a dollar,
I want it. Oh my god, you owe it to me.
If you owe it to me, I want it.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Why you're say forty bands?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
No, I'm that serious, bro, Oh me, don't be playing
with me.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Now I'm mad, and it's somebody might forget.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Now I'm mad. Now I'm fartening your car with the windows.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's doing that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
But what it's the same. It's the same with a woman.
It's like, it's like, goddamn, why can't I just treat
you like you deserve to be treated without you getting
accustomed to that treatment life.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You think you're a little crazy when it comes to women,
you don't think so you're a gemini, aren't you. I
was gonna say cancer, Oh, I just I just can't.
Are you cancer?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But I just fighting with myself. I just be. I
just be fighting with my anger. It's like, I know
ship can't be simple, but I'm still always like damn,
why can't you just be simple? Why can't you?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I got to ask you what happened that day when
you when you showed up at your exis house, who
the one that you went to jail again, hanging on
the door. All of that happened, and then they were
you were like, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh yeah, it was just some simple ship. Like you know,
my boy in here, still here checking it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He's back, he's back.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You got to step out again, and then he can't
go search the episode and watch it on his own. Okay,
As a as a fellow Gemini, I do want to
tell you that you, in fact are crazy. And it's okay,
I'm crazy too, because there's two of you.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I swear a guy like me, I'm a I'm a
good dude. I only want one woman I want to
have and and like I'm cool, so you don't never
got to go in your purse until I feel conflicted.
And then when I feel like that, you you just
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you taking for granted my kindness even with dudes like
women and dudes. When you when you're taking my kindness
for weakness, I be upset, and then I'm one of
them dudes that I don't feel like I want to
tell you that I'm upset. So with just build and.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Building right and then explode with with women, I wind
up just being like, yo, I'm done, and I don't
want to give you no.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Explanation because I'm upset. And when niggas, I might just
start beating your ass with like you know, that's that's
just me and I hate that, not now, no now,
and I hate that. And I be working on my ship.
I do. I be working on my ship. But it'd
be like if you extend yourself, it's just like damn,
(26:47):
because I didn't have to do this with your human ass,
like you know, I didn't have to do this, but
into it you know.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Who knew, mister Jennings was so complex. But all right,
so tell me what happened that day.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I won't be fanning out over no female. I don't
be chasing, I don't be doing none of that.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So what had happened was no real talk.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
So what just happened is I ran into a situation
that she was always playing with my kids. You know
what I'm saying, mind you kids, that I've taken care
of my whole life, Like if you ask any of
my kids I've always done right by my kids. At
one time, I was paying ten thousand dollars a month
in child's sport. Only reason why I'm not now is
because he's grown. So I'm still paying eight thousand dollars
(27:29):
a month, and I don't mind it because I think
that's where my blessings come from. But anyway, this particular night,
she had been playing about my kids. You know, you can't,
Oh you can't respect me, then you can't see your kids.
I don't got nothing to do with with my kids.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And and I really felt and I never I would
never do that. I was never putting it. I mean,
I can't say never, but I can ninety nine percent
say that I would never do that because I've never
been in that situation where I had give them to her,
Like you know what I'm saying. But this particular night,
I'm upset about it because I'm busy. So when I'm
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in town, I want to I want to see my youngins,
you know. So again it was one of those situations
that she felt like she didn't want to let me
see them, and so I was happened to be drinking
that night, and so you know that it was Patron fought.
Patron told me go over there. Patron was like, yo,
(28:29):
you gotta go to town in the morning. Man, go
over there and get a glimpse of your youngins. Man.
So when I went by there, man, I knock on
the door. Nobody answered the door. So then boom, I
kicked the door in, and it immediately tell me like damn,
like the youngs, they gonna be scared they hear the
door getting kicked in. So I immediately I didn't even
(28:52):
go in or nothing like that, and I just went
back to the whip, jumping the whip and I'm driving,
so I guess that she called, you know the law whatever.
And so next thing I know, I got the whole
police force behind me, and I keep a burner, so
they try to make it like, oh I went over
there with burners, Now I keep a burner. I let
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a couple of ship off in the I was upset,
you know what I'm saying, But that ship would have
already been on me anyway, Like you know what I'm saying.
So I leave and then next thing I know, the
whole police force is behind me, and I'm just thinking
like and I think sometimes you know what I'm saying,
(29:38):
and I just was like, I'm not stopping for these motherfuckers,
like and I'm going, and Tupaco'll never forget he played
Hell Married.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Everybody listening to ship.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
That's the exact part when when not when when you
hit that front part, come with me, Hell Married, nigga
want Hey? So I'm just going And then I just
I just fucking hit the gas and I heard the
engine because I was in a vet and I didn't
even have the top on so I can hear the
(30:18):
engine good. That ship was like and they was just
behind me. And then next thing I know, I'm like,
I don't know, Like it's kind of hard to explain
you going unconscious, but I was just I was coming
to like like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I want? And I look up and it's a tree
in the car with me, and I'm like, I'm trying.
I'm trying to remember, like what the fuck happened? Like
you know what I'm saying, And it's lights around and
I'm trying to get my bearings. But what happened is
I wound up hitting the tree, split my car leases
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around me, and my first thought on my mind when
I saw the lights, I'm looking for my gun. I'm like, damn,
like I'm padding around like well my acce at and
then it just all came to police is there. I
don't know what my guns because the car hit you
know what I'm saying. So they got through everywhere and
that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Man, Base Guys, that had to be one of the
worst nights for you because then afterward it's like a
night like that where first of all, it sucks. I
think it's really hard when kids are using a situation
like that, that's difficult. And I do very much so
sympathize when men when they have to go through that.
Right when your relationship with your the person you were
(31:42):
with affects your relationship with your kids. As a tough who,
my daughter's father was murdered five days after her second birthday.
I hate to see when a woman, a woman purposely
keeps her children away from their father. My daughter does
not have a chore to be away from her father.
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When you take that away from a child, you're only
hurting the child in the long run. And I just
don't have any respect for that. And if I was
a man, that would, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Know if I mean that was so long didn't fall
on you?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that ship was right next to me.
That's it, and that's you know. And when I think
back on that now, it's just really more like regardless
of what she did, I was out of control. I
take responsibility and then but now I take responsibility for everything,
(32:45):
and not even not only even for the reck I
take the responsibility for putting her in the position that
she felt like she had to do that to get
some kind of consolidation in her life. Like I should
have been given that to all along. I should have
been up front like this is what it is, and
this is what it's not. Because she got a guest,
then yeah, she's gonna do ship that stradle both sides
(33:07):
of the fence, you know what I'm saying. So again,
like it's just a I never even thought about that
ship again until right now.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But yeah, again, like she's old in apology, My kids
is old in apology. I even know apology to myself,
because I'm better than that ship, bro, you.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Know, but thank god you're alive. Sometimes things you don't
know at the time, but sometimes things happen for a reason.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I could have. I could have caught one of them
little pistols by accident and I would have immediately up
that ship and been busting and I wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, thank god. And then you did end up getting
married to someone else after that?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
What I'm trying to follow the life jetting storyline? So
what made you propose and get married?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What was it that you were like? Did you feel
like it was time, it was appropriate it were you
in love? Did you feel like this is my forever?
I want to just know what was going on in
your head.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I hope she don't see this either.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It's just your confessions.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's episode.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I just don't be on that lion ship. Like one
of my greatest fears sometimes when I be in a
relationship and the woman asked me like did you cheat?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
And you gotta tell them telling her her dress looks
ugly and she looks.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Bad, I know, And she asked, that's what me And
you ask.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Someone to tell the truth?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Would rather give you his brain once a week so
you can. You ain't got to ask nothing here, just
read it right here.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Take this guy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Damn, you ain't gonna ask me nothing. So what happened.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
The marriage thing. It was she was, it was it
was somebody that that I liked, not necessarily he was
in love with or something like that. And mind you,
let me preface this with saying that you gotta think
like I went to the penitentiary for eleven years. I
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came home two years later, I went right back to
the penitentiary for three more. Like you know what I'm saying,
I was just really on some bullshit, so I never
had a chance to really that's not an excuse. I'm
just appreciating so you can see where this ship.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Comes in a situation.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So anyway, I met this chick from Germany. You know
what I'm saying, great girl, long legs, all that good shit. So,
unbeknownst to me, she wound up having the whole feetus
in her stomach one day. So I was like, damn, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Wait what that's a strange way to say that. She was,
so why would you say it like that? He said, stomach?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Vagina who's beating?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Was this?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, because I don't be nuhing right, So I'd be like,
what what you don't?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You can get breaking from premp.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's what y'all.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Said, So you just stop yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, I be willing to reserve that injury. I mean
that energy.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Energy.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I want to preserve that energy because I always be thinking.
Another one of my not fears, but my thoughts is
like before I get old old, right, I'm gonna have
to tussle with some nigga before some young nigga, before
I get old, I'm gonna have to tussle with this nigga.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Show out retain from ejaculating, so you can have all
that strength right now, you feel me ready to now
you feel met to get ready.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Every nigga need that one last win.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
This crazy y'all was crazy right here, guys, that connection nigga.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I need that one last win that I can tell
my boy about, Like, yeah, you know nigga nigga, I
was sixty years old, but that nigga tried what.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
A man.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's a myth. That's some ship niggas tell you, So
you give him some pussy.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Somebody else said on that Yeah I was joey badass.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
But also I feel like you've been used to not
having that intimacy, so I feel like you used to
coming no. But you've gone long times without it in
a different way than other people want.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
To be masturbating in jail. Let's be clear, he was
at that.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
You know, a woman's touch is different.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
You know what I'm saying. You ejaculated. You didn't used
to masturbate a that in jail.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I nutted, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got some nuts.
Goddamnit on Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
If they would have tried to fight you.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You got to go in the booth. Yeah, going to
the booth.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
The privacy.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I ain't saying that ship that it is what it is,
but who what we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
You're not ejaculating. And so the German lady.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Right right, So I feel like we don't drink champs
or some shit. So so that situation happened, and I
was I had already said even before her, like next chick,
I put a feetus in, like I want to be
married to her, you know what I'm saying. So when
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she got pregnant or whatever she was, she was not
legally in the United States or whatever, so she's like, yo,
I need to be here, I need to you know,
be bla this and that third like, and I was like, well,
I'm not I'm not really ready to be in the
holy matrimony type ship, right, And she was like, well,
you know, your son need to be blah blah blah.
And that convicted me because I love my kids. I
(38:58):
don't play about none of them, even with them. If
one of my kids do something the other one like,
I'm harsh on that ship. I don't play that shit.
So anyway, I was just like cool, So I got
married and under that pretense. But then and a lot
of niggas don't even notice, right.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Exclusive Look.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
When I got in the little I don't even know
what you call it, the little little federal room, and
they were just telling me what all came along with
marrying somebody that is not a citizen over here. I
was cool with it. You know, you got to make
sure that everything is okay with them. I life got that.
(39:43):
They was like, you got to make sure that this
is what that you want to do. I'm like, got that.
Things like you want to make sure that you provide
a place for them to be. I said, I got that.
And it's like you got to be responsible for them
financially for ten years.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'll say, whoa ten years?
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I said, wait, wait, wait, meaning that they can't get
on any public assistance or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Married him nothing. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was not.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
I wasn't looking forward to the ten years.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I was not financially available, okay, to to take on
another kid at that point. This was my sixth kid.
I was responsible five. So if I was responsible for
her and the kid, that would be me and I
had seven kids. Wow, And I wasn't. I wasn't ready
for that. But you know I did have a conversation
(40:38):
with her and she we we basically didn't come to turn.
So I was like, I cannot concur disagreement that we
have made under the sun.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Wow. Yeah, So so you weren't holding your ejaculation because
you had six kids at that time.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
It's been pre come.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Not every time. But I know you did get married
and then got divorced.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well well well hurt. Yeah, so again like you get
married and then you follow the paperwork. So I got married,
fied the paperwork. When they told me these are randomous stipulations.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
What were you?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Were like, yes, and my t I ship.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
He was like second thought, never mind.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Basically you know, great, great, great, great fucking woman boss
type woman got a master's degree all of that ship.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay, so she wasn't a had needed your money.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I just like honestly, like, I'm gonna keep it one hundred.
Marriage ain't for niggas, Marriages for women like, no, I'm boy,
I'm a boy. To check this out. You, I could
marry you, right, you could cheat on me with my
goddamn brother. I could come in the house and catch
you on the bed together. Guess what, You're still gonna
get half of my ship. No matter what.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
What if she had more to me, then you get
half of mine.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Is it such a thing? Absolutely, that's her having more
to me? Okay, well I'm gonna get.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Married, Holly Barry, there's a married one who he said,
it's just such a thing.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
But what I'm saying is predominantly when you look at
all of the multi millionaires in women, ninety five percent
of them came from marriages to way they got half
the guys ship, and she became a millionaire.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Five just Oprah by herself.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Of women.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Statistics.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
What I'm saying is it's not it's not built for
me in like, if I cheat on you, they're gonna
drag my ass. They're gonna give you more than have.
They gonna give you everything that you've ever been looking for.
But I could go through the same thing with you,
and you did the same ship, and they still gonna
give you.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Think it's hard and a lot of times and with.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Found a way around in prenups are found.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
You don't think you'll ever get married again.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I can either confirm nor deny it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because I still haven't heard.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
We have heard that in love Sudart.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
He was in love with the son's mom.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, I loved it. I definitely loved it.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
You did a song called Greedy. Yeah, all right, Now,
what were you going through when you did that song?
Because that was all about and not just but you know,
people being greedy and one of that.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know what's crazy about this ship? And this is
where the camera at what a camera is on. Don't
never say no ship that ain't happened to you yet,
because you were manifested. When I wrote that greedy joint,
I was in prison. I didn't have one kid and
I was talking about greedy baby mamas didn't have one.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
So what inspired it? Then? Like people you saw other stories.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Nothing inspired that day and show shipped into existence five
baby mamas. Like people asked me how many kids you got? Now,
I only got real six kids, but always say I
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got eleven kids because I got five and all of
them pay a lot of child support. I take care
of everybody's situations. Man, I make sure they cool, because
I don't want my kids to be wanting for nothing.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
But you know that ship is how old is your youngest?
Speaker 3 (45:22):
My youngest is about to be eight years old on
the twenty first, and then my sixteen years she's about
to be sixteen twenty second. Yeah, so I got eight,
and then my other son is eight, don't ask me
about that. And then we got to right then I
got a.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
What do they call it?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Irish twins?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, my guys, they handsome, They them little niggas a
phoenix and il I like those these these cats is
you know they they.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And they're best friends.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, they best friends.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
They Yeah, now they're not twins the Irish.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah they look, but you know what people think that
they twins. One was born in January, was born in October.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Okay, he was busy.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
He was busy, not coming.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
He was busy. Years I was watching.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
He was busy with that plea com.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Now let me ask you this we all know about.
We watched Love and Hip Hop.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
God damn you, Carly Red.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You gave her a ring. But the ring was not
It was not an engagement proposal.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
It was a I promise you ain't gonna never find
a man like me and your life ring?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Can you please?
Speaker 4 (46:35):
You?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
That whole situation and she fainted.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
That ring was real. That's that ring was a real commitment.
It might not have been a real diamond.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Oh my god, you give a fake diamond?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Is Conia think?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Was even that rectangle? What made you? Dude, I've never
heard of giving want to ring? Him break up.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Because you said you're never gonna find another.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I'm gonna say this on this show, right And I
ain't even said this before because I don't. I didn't.
I don't put nobody in bad like me and Collie Cool.
You know what I'm saying. Like I've spoken to her
after that, you know she's successful a couple. She got
a couple of fast food restaurants with Neil Least. Last time, she's.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Fast food Johnny's Chicken, fast food restaurant.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
It's called Johnny's Chicken. Told me it's a chicken and
waf restaurant. She said that with Crystal Crystal Smith.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Okay, apparently people eating and ship. I'm been there right stream,
but I said that to say like she's successful. So
I feel like that she wouldn't be mad at me
for telling my truth. So I used to deal with
Collie Red before I was ever on love and hip hop.
And I dealt with Collie Red because she she had
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been through some ship in her life, you know what
I'm saying. And I felt like when people go through
ship in their life, which which shouldn't be the case,
I feel like that they can really appreciate when some
good ship come because they've been here. So through dealing
with her, she was always asking me, and in retrospect,
I felt like that she was always asked. That was
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her whole intention all along. You know. When I because
I had never watched I never watched that ship. I
didn't know that she had a lot of different niggas
on there. Now Yeah, so sas, I just don't watch
that ship like I'm a different nigga, Like I don't
I don't get into godship. But none of that bro
So anyway, through dealing with her, she was always like, Yo,
(48:38):
I want you to get on the show. I was like, no,
fuck that ship, I ain't getting on the show. And
she was like, oh, can you get in the show.
I was like I should still, no, goddamnit, no, because
album coming out that so she she was like, yo,
she finally has something. And she was like, Yo, you
got an album coming out. She's like, I can make
(49:00):
sure that your album is promoted and blah blah blah.
I'm like, damn, I do need another must be nice
this motherfucker. So I say, I said, all right, cool, Right,
So I get on this goddamn show man, and I'm
going through audience random I'm going through and then I
think like, I'm a positive nigga. So I'm like, I
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could get on this show and I could speak positivity
into this goddamn life. You know, these niggas dragged me.
Everybody as mona ass. Don't go fuck with you, drag
you the same way. But and so then through the
(49:41):
we had never promoted my album one goddamn time. Now
mind you, you promoted all this other bullsh shit, never
pum on my album. But I'm still giving it the
benefit of doubt because y'all women be goddamn tricking me.
Man Like, So finally one of my niggas that worked
on the show, he just was like, yo, you you ready,
(50:04):
And just the way he said it, he only said
it one time. I'm like, what you mean ready? Were
in LA were about to shoot out? Like what you
mean ready? He's like, man, man, I'm like, man, what
So anyway, short story shorter. He pulled me to the side, like, bro, like,
she about to clown you. She about to make you
look crazy for the one nigga, and she about to
(50:25):
tell you some shit. She's sleeping with the raw nigga.
This is the plan, right, I'm like, so she's trying
to goof me. Right, So I'm like, all right, cool.
So I tell my man that I was shooting cap.
I say, y'all want to get a real good shot
of this shit because I'm only gonna do this shit
one time. It's gonna be some really dope shit for TV.
And I said, this is gonna be a classic moment
(50:47):
in loving hip hop history.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yes it was.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
And hence the ring hents, the falling out.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Where did the ring come from?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
The ring came from the ring costs Like thirty dollars.
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Okay, but you just picked it up after he told.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Her that, or when he told me that.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I was looking, you know, for there's clear's accessories.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
This could have been a ring. Wow, case could have
been an ing. But we did that, you know what
I'm saying. And then, but one thing you gotta say
about Collie, right, she know how to pivot, She know
how to get that bag. She came and made a
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couple of episode she took the ring to the praiser, praiser,
praise the ring. Then the next episode was that broke
ass nigga life couldn't even get a real ring and
all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I'm like, why am I give you a real ring? Breakup?
Speaker 3 (51:43):
But that's that's how this world is. This whole world
is fake, bro, and and and and I realized at
that moment, I really think Collie read in a whole franchise,
because at that moment, I realized that the problem has
never been all these fake motherfuckers, bro. Problem has been
me being around these fake motherfuckers and showing up as
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the real me. That's been the problem all along. Motherfucker's
being fake, but I'm showing up as the real me.
Expecting them to be the real them and that was
the problem.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
I mean, it's TV and you know, but love you
also did an EP with a lot of songs. Wouldn't
mean a butterfly. She's very talented.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yeah. Her nigga though, what's that nigga name?
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Peter sorry, Peter Peter Guns.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, for the kids.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
The nigga was doing all these interviews and stuff talking
about just talking recordless about me.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
You know what I'm saying about you. I didn't even
see that.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, man, it was you. He mad because this little
chick dig me whatever he was talking about. Did you
guys address it? Yeah, I mean to me and the
mean because.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
That was a lot of songs together on the EP
that it felt a vibe. I felt that.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I couldn't either confirm original no. But you know he said,
I don't know, man, Peter Guns like his his this
ship he was talking. I didn't even respond to that
ship because it's like, yo, he ain't Peter Guns. That's PG, nigga.
That's PG that ain't ready to I ain't nothing ready
to all about you, nigga. That ship is PG.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Oh my gosh. So you didn't even bother to respond
to that. I didn't even see him saying nothing about you,
but he.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Did, he said he it was under her post. He
was just talking about, you know, some ship, about somebody
I was messing with. He was messing with and they
said this. I'm just like, so you might got to
do a reality show.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
No, he's retired.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
He is, he's still doing I think Peter Gun is
still doing that.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, he's the new host.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
I didn't not to bring old ship up, but to
bring old ship up. But didn't.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Wasn't he cheating with yes?
Speaker 3 (54:07):
And then you do yes?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Life comes at you like come s fast.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
I should be weird. It should be weird, man.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And you're going to Hawaii're about to go to Hawaii
soon too, right, I've never been to me. What I know.
You're gonna have a time a couple.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Of days there, Like I I got six shows out there.
That's great, and I'll be out there for like four days.
My son he coming out there too.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh that's dope. See that's nice to be able to
do stuff like that and bring like your son with you.
You got him working, he's going to school for finance.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
He doing this ship and he trust him, proud of him.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Did you, not your kid.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, I have no reason to trust people. I don't
even want to be put in a position to where
I have to trust you. You know what I'm saying.
That's my ship. I got a lot of ship going on,
Like I got the clothing line, my ship topping repetition brand.
My children just came out. Three book series. Not one
of it's three book series. I'm gonna write a new
book every year and added to it. My lounge is
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in Atlanta, if you'll have it down there. You live
in Atlanta? Yeah, So I got a lounge out there.
It's called Life eighteen fifty two.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Where is it.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
It's in Jonesborough, Okay, Yeah, so that joint is out there.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
I just moved from the south side actually north now.
But I'll check it out.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
So, I mean, you know good.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I don't want to do is eat.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
I don't know if it's good. It's good each individual.
It's just like you eat.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
You gotta sell it better than that, don't one. I don't.
I don't know good.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
You know I won't.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
You're too honest.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
You're very restricted. Would you confirm anyway? So I'm gonna
have to check it out with myself.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, I just I just don't want the bullshit in
my life at this point. Man, you know, I don't
want to be coming from the breakfast club and smoking
long cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Around.
Speaker 5 (56:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
This is the ship. This is actually the best podcast
that I've been on because I feel like I get
to like when I when I drink, I don't necessarily
drink a lot, but when I do drink, I do
feel more relaxed. Because I probably shouldn't even say this,
but I'm gonna say anyway, I be like, I be
like paranoid, bro. I be like really like like when
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dudes be interviewing me, if a niggas say something slick,
like if a niggas say something like yo, then you
say that you was in prison with Jeffrey domind like
my mind just be like this nigga trying so mean,
Like this nigga like you, but you.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Did say that pretty brown eyes. He asked for that.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
He did that.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
People didn't believe you for some reason.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Yeah, But but like coming from you the way you
say you say you just flip your hand like that,
people didn't believe a cigarette different. It's like, I don't know,
and this is why I stay in the house. I
don't got to own a lot of friends at all.
I do. I stay in the house. I'm never outside
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because you know, again, I'm working on me. And I
feel some kind of like if a nigga asked me something,
I'm just immediately just like.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Trigger is that PTSD?
Speaker 3 (57:20):
I think it's from prison, because when you in prison,
you gotta like no bullshit when the nigga. Even if
a nigga come in prison and he'd be like hi,
it's like you gotta analyze that whole ship in thirty
different ways, like.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
Niggas like chess. You mean, Hi, he's doing this, and
then I gotta do that and then wow, PTSD.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Where the god I used to be in prison and
the nigga do something to me, and I know I
gotta fuck him up for it. I know I gotta
do some vicious ship to him so that nobody ever
do this ship but the only thing to even take presidents.
I know I got to do this ship to this nigga.
I'm about to do it, but then in my mind,
I just be like, why did this nigga choose me
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to do this ship to it? Like what did this
nigga see that that he thought like you know what,
I'm gonna do this ship to this nigga, and that
makes me fucking mad, like nigga, like you like, because
it's like it's not only that I gotta fuck you
up over this ship that you did, but now it's
like the ship that I've been thinking has been working
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for to keep these niggas away from me from fucking
with me. It's like, now, Nigga, I gotta rethink my
whole ship. Nigga, I gotta reshow up my whole heem
nigga because you done did some fuck ship.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Like I just I want you to talk to someone
like we don't find you a lad. I need you
to talk because it's like some past trauma from things
that you have never really addressed. I'm keeping it real.
Just sitting here listening to you discuss this. Honestly does
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feel like you need to work through some things. Have
you ever done that?
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Working someone? What?
Speaker 6 (59:04):
What?
Speaker 3 (59:04):
What? A therapist?
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah? Like I'll see here, you say.
Speaker 3 (59:09):
Come on, because I look at the therapist like this fire. Everybody.
Everybody got something that happened in You're gonna cry out
your whole life and.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
You going to know you talk about it and you
learn how to deal with a month and then learn
from cry what like you know, when's.
Speaker 1 (59:27):
The last time you cried?
Speaker 3 (59:28):
I ain't never cry.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Don't say that.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
That's not true your baby, And.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
That's cool for y'all because no, no, no real talk
because I'm not I'm not tripping on it. Like I mean,
I know, I know what it is. I know that
it's there. I can see it. It's a big screen
TV and it ain't the thirteen that's TV. I can see
that it's there. But at the same time, it doesn't
have to affect me, like in my dealings with people,
because if I again, like with dudes and females, I
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don't have to be around you, like if I feel
like like if I get triggered by something. You know
what I'm saying. I know, I don't got to get
upset at you or whatever. I know that you're a human,
so I can choose to not be around you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
But if not just for you, for your kids. I
think it helps with everything in life. You know what
I'm saying. I'm just saying, don't write it off. You
never know. But I just do feel like, and you
even said it yourself, it's thinking about like things you
went through and how you deal with people and thinking
about you know, you're bringing that into life now and
(01:00:33):
I get it, like a lot of how we react
and do things is based off of things that have
happened to us in experiences and our past experiences. But
it's different now and maybe there's different ways to deal
with things, that's all for sure. It's not a mad thing.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I'm moving to it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Okay, yeah at home, right, We're not mad at it.
We're not mad it. Honestly, we love the fact that
you sat here today and really told us everything. Yes, yes,
I think that's amazing. Appreciate that we didn't have to
take your brain out of yet Gemini drink on shows again,
(01:01:08):
there's no way you're not And fy I did Tiny
Desk call you and say let's do this because it's time?
Because I think after they had a chance to see
you do yeah unplugged, they should be like, we fucked up.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
They hit my pr and they was just and again
this is some human shit. Again. Oh, we didn't exactly
say that. We said that, but we didn't say that,
and we didn't think that he should have put us
on this social media.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Well, y'all said meanwhile, you sound amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Still, thank you man. That's the ship to get me mad.
It's like, it's like, bro, like I can say, first
of all, I can say whatever I want to say,
and then on secondly, that pretty much is what you
should right, that's what That's what I just said in
the car. Stand on that ship. It's cool. I ain't
mad at you, but just standing.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You have to post the other girl though, and be like,
oh you're doing this. I was like, life, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I thought about that after after it because I don't
want to make her feeling, but I didn't want to
just just for the win.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
That was that bad win.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I do got an alter ego. And and that's why
I gotta wrap.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Uh yeah, you're rapping on the new album.
Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Wrapping on a new album.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Oh my god, God, we don't need this man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Look at her. Look look at her eyes. I know
a lot about women, and look at her eyes. She
is just really really just like trying to what you'all
woman call it, when you when you're trying to see
into a dude, you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
She's picking you apart a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Yeah, just like she really just trying to figure my
ship out like this.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Nigga, it's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah you got you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Like I'm intrigued. Yes, he's intriguing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Imagine that for a couple more shots. Boy, who knows.
Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
After watching the remake of the Must Be Nice video,
I am definitely going to go home and watch forst Gum.
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Thank you forst Gun.
Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Why don't you do the running scene because that was
my favorite scene.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Man, these knees, all of that ship like, I'm just
having Like, honestly, bro, I'm just really having a good time.
Like I know that some cats talk about I want
to be a I'm doing a lot of ship, like
I could. I could possibly, you know, be what somebody
(01:03:42):
called the mug or whatever, because I'm doing a lot
of ship. But in reality, I've I've I've not even
reached the pinnacle where most niggas reached. And I'm okay,
Like I'm straight. It's enough money to sustain me for
the rest of this little life, and my kids is
gonna have some ship. I don't want to leave my
kids eighty million dollars because it's a People ain't gonna
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tell you all this on these these shows either. Man,
when you get to a certain level of money, you
will lose your drive. I don't want to ever feel
like I could just wake up in the morning and
go buy a plane. I don't want that shit like
I want to feel like I got it. Okay, all right,
I gotta say I gotta put it together, like I
gotta save this, I gotta cut out this. I want
that ship because I still want to feel like something
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is important enough for me to sacrifice. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, does we love that?
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, and listen. I hope you come back when the
new project jobs too. Yeah, yeah, we need we need
a part two. I think we need a part two.
Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I'll come and rap. Let me tell you my rap.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
The rap name is Colorado Slim Colorado one hundred and
ninety pounds with no chain on your wife, the same
bitch they ran to train on.
Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Oh my god, put.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
This bitter like dame since Jay gone.
Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Oh no, okay, Colorado slim on Colorad.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
He's not smoke now.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
I don't want to smoke. I know I spoke the
dang before, man, like you know cool, I don't know.
I don't owe that nigga nothing like you know what
I'm saying. I know him and it's cool, like you
know what I'm saying, But can we talk about that
for a second. I can I just say what's on
my inner spirit to say, man, because I know, like
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I don't know day, I've met him before, like I've
been up there with UH with a jay Z and
Ta Ti them niggas, and I spoke to the niggas,
so I felt like that I could still say what
the fuck like I feel like that I want to
say because he's I feel like he wanted niggas that's
not around them, niggas that be able to tell you
(01:05:44):
like this is what it is he around niggas that
you probably worked for him or he is it has
some part in paying your bills or something like that.
You can't use niggas like that all the time, Like
you need a nigga that don't got nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
That ain't you nothing, that don't owe you ship.
Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
And I don't owe that nigga ship. I don't give
fuck what that nigga think of nothing. Like my stance
is that it's like from a from a public stamp standpoint,
that you can't keep this nigga name in your mouth
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like that make you look crazy like these niggas. Yeah,
you you might think like you might think these niggas
is doing interviews with you because they want to know
about your ship. These niggas is dry humping you, my nigga.
They can't wait until they know you're gonna say this
nigga Jay name my nigga like that shit. Ain't that
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ain't cute? Like you way bigger than that nigga. I
remember you from the movies. Nigga you're talking about nigga,
I gotta I got a thousand dollars for every pimple
on your face. Nigga, pay it in for that tight ship,
like you know what I'm saying. Like we see that
ship and we respect that ship, but you lose value
every time you say this nigga name man.
Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
And if you did, that's what you were going to
ask about them?
Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Ain't your friends nigga like you think they want to
talk to you them niggas. This comes just from a
real nigga. You know what I'm saying, Them niggas ain't
your friends.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Bro's call platform now and I see he's speaking about
things on his and on his platform, but maybe there's
things that's heavy on him. That he wants to be
able to tell I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
And people telling his story for a long time. I
feel like and I feel like he was side.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
And that's okay, bro, But if you miss that nigga,
just be like, I miss you, nigga. I mean, I
missed the good times, my nigga, Like to a nigga
like me who had I don't got a stake in
the game. I don't know Jay like that. I don't
really know you like that. But just as a consumer,
when I see that ship and I value that, I
value what Dame was to the community. Like when we
see that niggas a nigga like he may not have
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been J, but he was a nigga standing next to Jay.
He was a nigga that when Jay didn't want to
do this, and because j can't take all them calls,
you was a nigga taking them calls. And when we
see this ship, it devalues our experience. The niggas that's
with you, the main show, fucking friends, Bro, the niggas
that's trying to they laughing at you, and watch this
nigga say Jay they name and then it's last ship
(01:08:13):
to come up like it pissed me off. Man. I
don't get triggered by muchhit because I don't watch the internet.
But when I saw that, I saw that what's the
chick name that just said some ship about fuck? Bro
like and then like you you know what ship going on?
I don't even want to say this nigga name because
everybody show speak this nigga name, but you know what's
going on with this nigga might be? You know what's
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going on with this nigga? But then you feed into
this ship with jagrier Like what waal don't why don't
somebody just if that, if that is intrude, then why
don't you just say it's not true? Like bro? Like,
do you hate this nigga this? Like? Come on, man
it because because what I'm gonna tell you what triggered
me back to and this is why be triggered. It
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triggered me to my baby mama, like the ship go on,
like do you hate me this much as you just
want to see me destroyed? Like, because not only are
you destroying you know what we feel is is valid
points when we was growing up seeing this ship, seeing
the greatness because you are a part of this greatness.
Whether the nigga jay said or not, like, you are
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a part of this greatness. Niggas, you don't need validation
from this nigga. You don't need this nigga to say
that you are a part of this greatness for you
ever know it, because the community know it. But then
to see you not only trying to tear down his
greatness and not have the fucking common sense to know
when you tear down this nigga great chat on your
own that ship pisses me the fuck off. When when
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niggas do this, man, I don't and again, I don't
got no stake in the game. I don't know this nigga.
Yeah yeah, when I see it, it's just it's saddens
me because it makes me when you blot out a
part of your life and when you just try to,
you know, decolor a part of your life. Nigga, you
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the coloring the part of my life. I can't watch
this ship the same I can't watch the whole videos
with you and the nigga and your niggas happy and
just remember I was happy at that moment too. It
fuck it fucks It fucks us up as a as
a as a community, as a culture. Bro. And I
don't think niggas realize that. Bro, Like say that ship
in silence. Bro, call that nigga on the phone, Fucking
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what's that ship? We used to have two way text.
Put that nigga on the two way. Fuck it up
for yourself, but don't fuck it up for me, nigga,
because I got fond memories. I know my nigga that
forever in my mind, Jay and Dame is a fucking duo. Nigga.
This ship is like Million Vanilli, fucking if Milly was
(01:10:45):
talking about. I don't funk with that. I don't fuck
up my nigga. Don't fuck up my childhood. Don't fuck
up my child because you don't fuck up my memories.
Don't don't do that because now you're selfish. You got
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be with that nigga. Be with that nigga. Tak damn
fuck up my ship, man, because I love both of
you niggas man, because I got solid memories in my
life that was based on that point in my life.
If you remove that point in my life, you've erased
my history. Nigga. You don't got the right to do that. Nigga.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
You sound very upset.
Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
I am.
Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
That bothers me.
Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
It bothers me because I like when I when I
when I was Maybe it's because I was in prison
at that time, and that ship defined like two black
men that's fucking getting money together, and these niggas is
happy when I fucking wasn't happy. I wasn't happy. But
I can live out my happiness through you niggas happiness. Man,
(01:11:52):
don't do that to me.
Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Man, we got to link you with Dame No.
Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
I don't want to talk to the nigga like he
just said, yeah, that's it, because then they're gonna be like, oh,
he just wanted the audience with Dame No.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I understand this. Don't do relate that to a certain
part of your life and feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
You just don't do that with us and even to
J like, whatever the fuck problems you got with this man,
it's bigger than you, Jay, it's bigger than you. You're
dealing with niggas memories out here right whatever. You got
to work out with this nigga to preserve our memories
because because obviously that's what you did it for. Everybody
always talking this ship or I did it for the culture.
I did it for the culture.
Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Did you really don't, But it's really hard if you
put yourself in like looking at both their positions, if
you put yourself in Jay's position, can I now go
back and really piece things up with all the things
that have been said everything? And then for dame from
his position, it's like, am I supposed to take the
high road and not tell how I feel?
Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
It ain't. It ain't even about to hire road. It's
like it's like it's like I hate to keep on
resorting this ship back to this, but it's like I
got a baby mama, and no matter what happened between us,
it ain't about me taking the high road, me telling
my kids and no shit like this. It's about my
kids never happened to hear this ship and never happened
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to choose because I know their childhood is at steak.
Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Innocence are the kids that don't want to right.
Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
We we the consumers, and I'm a consumer because I'm
not as big as neither one of the niggas, but we,
as a consumer are Innocence.
Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Is as steak the innocent children.
Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
And I would never go to my kids and be like, yo,
your mama did this or this is what really happened,
and you know that's bullshit.
Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
The consumers be hyping it up even more. Yes, we'll
say that, but honestly, thank you so much for coming
through and again you are on tour, so we want
to make sure people know that Cincinnati, Honolulu, New Orleans, Florence,
South Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia, San Diego, Memphis, Cleveland, Houston, Columbus, Vegas,
(01:13:59):
and I make sure y'all get y'all tickets. All right,
check out Life Jennings. I mean, how could you not
have to that classic?
Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
A right?
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Great?
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I wish I wouldn't even said that ship because I
don't want that nigga mad at me.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Nobody's gonna be mad at you, nobody's.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But I care. But I don't care. I'm like every
other person. I want what I want.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
And you sat up here and lied about ejaculating.
Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I mean, it's fine you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I don't know you got how many kids?
Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I know it?
Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Then not anymore, no more, no possible, no more.
Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Baby, Unless somebody make me feel essential, make me feel needed, then.
Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
There might be another baby or anybody that could help
this man and speak to him off the record. Please,
I'm just listen, Life, changing life life changing.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Life changing therapy, therapy. I have you've been through therapy? Absolutely,
you've been through therapy.
Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I'm currently in therapy.
Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
She ain't been through therapy.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I am currently and I did it like same.
Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Once, but but I'm keeping real I need it, but
you need it more. Also judged Man Life Jennings. Ladies
and gentlemen take this, take his brain out of his
head and let's ask you some questions. Please, all right.
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