August 8, 2024 • 42 mins
Morgan White Jr. for NightSide:
Whether you’re traveling locally or internationally this summer, it’s important to know how to protect yourself, and your belongings, should you be met with something sinister. Former Newton Police Lieutenant Bruce Apotheker joined Morgan with tips on how not to become a victim.
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Whether you’re traveling locally or internationally this summer, it’s important to know how to protect yourself, and your belongings, should you be met with something sinister. Former Newton Police Lieutenant Bruce Apotheker joined Morgan with tips on how not to become a victim.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm going Boston. Thank you, Dan. Final hour of Night
Side has arrived. It's been a busy night and I've
still got get up and go enough to do one
more hour of show. And I'm on tomorrow night as well,
my last night Side of the week. Tofa Ellis will
(00:24):
be here with me tomorrow at eight o'clock. We'll be
talking about our favorite breakfast cereals, and Matt Hannah, local musician,
will be with me after we deal with Tofa and Breakfast,
and Jack Hart will be here for two hours giving
us a tour around Boston. So now that I've told
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you that this gentleman, I am proud to say is
a friend. He used to be in charge of the
City of Newton. As far as being a policeman, he
was a lieutenant, and as I mentioned before, I took
the break. Once you have achieved a rank a title
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that is yours for the rest of your life. He
is retired from the City of Newton Police Department, but
he is still a lieutenant in my eyes. Lieutenant Bruce Apothecar,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
To BZ Well Morgan, thank you for having me as always,
and I want to say, hey, do your listeners and
to all the officers are anybody in uniform tonight. I
wish you were safe and a healthy night, and make
sure you get home safe.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I want to tell you something, my son. I'm
not going to say the community. He moved down to
the Carolinas. That'll keep it generic enough, but he's working
as a spokesperson for one of the police departments down there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Really. Yes, I always enjoyed my interactions with him, always
a true professional, and I was sorry to see him
leave the area.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, well that's where he is now. And I told
him if ever he needed guidance with a question dealing
with the relations between the police department and the community,
he should call you. And he said, Dad, you.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's say quite an honor coming from you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I have written down five different areas where we
can take our conversation for people to pay attention, to
be careful out there, to quote Hill Street Blues, because
there are a lot of dastardly people and all they
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want to do is take what is yours, and you
don't want them to take what's yours because you've worked
hard for everything that you have. And I'm going to
start off with funerals, and there are of a roads
dealing with funerals. When it's announced in the obituaries of
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a newspaper that Joe Smith died and the services are
going to be on Friday at wherever, there are people
that scan the papers and that gives them an indication
of maybe a house that will be unoccupied, or they
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want to go to a certain cemetery. And you know
of these dastardly people that prey on the vehicles that
are there at a cemetery. Tell people about some of
the the scams that happen when you are saying goodbye
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to a loved one and your car is now unguarded,
unwatched for a period of time.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, as we always say, for a crime to happen,
two things need to be You need motive, an opportunity.
And like you said, when there's a obituary posted and
that someone passed away, a loved one and he gives
out the information on the family, people would take advantage
of that and maybe breaking someone's home, or like you said,
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they can go into a vehicle. You know, this is
an old type of scheme that's been happening. I know,
I remember the old Dragnet shows. I remember watching it
that it was occurring on a dragnet show from the sixties.
So it's something that's been out there, and I've actually
worked a couple of details. I was hired by people
over the years to watch their homes when they either
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went to awake or they were going to a funeral
of a loved one. But it's something again that you
want to just you know, it's the same thing when
people go on vacation and they post on social media
and they got their pictures that they're, you know, somewhere
someplace tropical skiing for the weekend, and now they've just
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told everybody that they're not hold And this would make
something that the opportunity would be there for someone who
wanted to bring into.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
A house and from the activity at a cemetery ladies,
and this works for everybody, but I'm specifically addressing women.
You leave your pocket book in the car, but you
leave the car unlocked, or you think you're protecting the
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pocketbook and you put it in the trunk out of sight,
out of mind, but the car is unlocked, and there's
a little switch either by the seat or in the
glove compartment that releases the lock on the truck. And
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the bad guys know this, and the bad guys take
advantage of it, and more often than not, you only
attend a funeral a handful of times in your life.
Be aware. Lock the car. If you want to leave
belongings in the car, fine, but lock the car and
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take your keys with you. That way, they can't get
into the car, flip the latch to open the trunk.
Am I right, Bruce?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Absolutely? And you know this not only goes with you know,
if someone loved one pass away, if you're attending a funeral,
but it also, you know, is dependent upon you doing
this every night when you get home. You know, for
many years, when I used to do all the media,
I can't say how many times a year we would
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put out something either in the news, who's on social
media and reminding people to lock the doors of their
vehicles and remove all valuables, you know, because like you said,
you know, nowadays, with these new vehicles, you push a button,
the trunk's gonna open, so it's really removing your valuables
out of your vehicle. And I can, if I remember correctly,
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I think it was somewhere around ninety seven percent of
all car breakings we had years ago. Was all because
of an unlocked door. Yeah, and if the only time
that they probably would break a window if the door
was locked is if they saw something of value in
that vehicle. So, no matter what you do, every time
you make it happen of it. You take all your vehicle,
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your valuables, you'll remove them for your vehicle. And if
you lock your door, what's gonna happen? If they're gonna
move on down they see your car, there's nothing near
the doors are locked, and they'll move on to your
neighbor's cards.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And I'm gonna say this. You drive through Dunkin Donuts,
you buy your coffee, you give them a five dollar bill,
you get back, you know, a couple of bills and change,
and you leave it there in the coin cup space
in the car, and you forget about it. That's now
visible and you're thinking, Oh, who is going to break
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into my car to take a dollar in change? Twelve thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen year old kids, that's who. And they know that
they can go from vehicle to vehicle to vehicle look
in and see that, and they know that if they
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break into enough vehicles, they've got the money that they need.
For what have you, whether it's drugs or the ability
to go to a movie, you are giving them temptation.
Remove the temptation. I've got to take my break. When
we come back, I've got three or four more areas
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to cover with Lieutenant Bruce of Pothaka, formerly of the
City of Newton. You noticed how I emphasized that Bruce
the city. I hear them, So if you want to
call in add to the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty.
This is night Side. Dan is off. He'll be back
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on Monday. I'm here tonight and I'll be here tomorrow. Me.
I'm Morgan White, Junior. Time and temperature eleven sixteen sixty
four degrees.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Morgan, I'm here with my buddy, Lieutenant Bruce Apothecer. We're
talking about, especially during the summer, things from which you
should be aware, and I'm going to talk about crowds.
There was a football game today, Patriots one. From what
I hear, seventeen to three. And if you're in a
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crowd waiting to get in and thousands of people around you.
Femway Park, Foxborough at the beach. That is ripe pickings
for you to be pickpocketed. These pickpockets either work alone
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or in teams. And that casual little bump as somebody's
trying to squeeze by you, that impact of their body
coming into contact with you. They've learned the time that
bump so well that their hand goes for your wallet
and you don't even know that they've lifted your wallet.
(10:54):
And Lieutenant Bruce, you want to speak to that police.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, so you raise a good issue here more and
same time, you're in sort of a crowded situation, whether
you're in a you know, a stadium, at a subway,
you're walking through downtown somewhere, and you know the people
are getting close to here. You know what you want
to do is you know they have these different the
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old fanny packs. They know some people would keep them
in front of them. They keep their arm over it.
You could have a front pocket. You keep your hands
on your money inside your pockets, but you know it's
probably not a good idea. Sometimes when you're around a
lot of people, you have some sort of wallet or
something in your back pocket because these people are professionals
and they can lift that wallet right out of your
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pocket without you even knowing it. So you always want
to have control over something, whether it's in your front pockets,
with your hands in your pockets, to just hold on
to that I have some sort of money belt that
they have. You know, these are things that we're having
these conversations tonight to tell people that it's common sense.
We know, you know these things exist, that's happened in
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the past, and so you're just being aware of, you know,
these type of things. When you leave the house, you
know where you're going. You're gonna go to the grocery store.
I can't tell you how many times we used to
take reports at one of the grocery stores in Newton
that people would get to the register and the wallet
wanted to be in the poker book. And then you know,
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as they uh go over the story with us with
taking the reports, you know, we find out that they
left their Parker books and the carriage right and then
you know they went over to uh look at the
fruit or they're you know, looking at the apples, they're
putting something in a bag, and that's when somebody's opening
up that pocket book and removing that wallet. So always
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have eyes on your money, and you know, never leave
anything in a carriage, especially if you're not going to
have your eyes on it all the time. And you know,
one thing, just you know you mentioned Duncan Donuts before
with the change and things like that. I can't tell
you how many times over the years, you know, somebody will,
especially now with the mobile orders. It's a hot day,
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it's a cold day, they run in, they keep the
car running, and you know these it's right for someone
you know, getting into your vehicle stealing things right out
of your vehicle as you're inside. Those who are actually
stealing your vehicle yep. And so again, first of all,
if it's someone fracting to your motor vehicle running, you know,
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we do not in the vehicle, so you could, you know,
you're subject to getting a ticket. And you know if
your kai gets solen, you know that's something that your
insurance company actually might say, well listen, you know you
didn't have the car secured. You actually kept it running,
and so it's just something that common sense always prevails.
You know, we're still in August, so hot weather, you know,
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Thank god. I haven't seen any reports of any children,
you know, recently being listening of vehicle. I saw was
a port the other day about two dogs up and
at them that had been left out on the heat.
But you know what, you gotta make sure your parent,
your grandparents, if you're dropping some kids off for someone
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you know, you leave that vehicle on a hot day,
you got to always look make sure that you know
those children are not left on the vehicle alone, because
as we know, within seconds on a hot day that
God tempers you can go over one hundred and twenty
very easily.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And that goes for pets. I had a person on
last night talking about just that, how quickly a seventy
degree day becomes one hundred and ten to twenty. In
the car if the windows wound up, there's no way
of conditioning. And whether you're talking about your collie or
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your four or five six year old son daughter.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yep, do that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Home or take them with you, or if you have
to leave a kid in the car, leave the windows
down as a last resort. That's better than winding up
the windows and leaving the kid in for the quick
ten minutes that you're running into the store.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and like you said, two of the pets. You know,
we've seen it over the years. We've had many officers
responsor to those type of calls over the years where
a person left the pad inside the vehicle. Again, we're
talking about these things, and I'm glad you know we
are that simple things that sometimes people forget about, but
these are the things that make the headlines when someone's
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not thinking and something tragically happens.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right, let's switch to vacations. And there are so
many different specifics that I'm going to have Ruth speak
to on the subject of taking vacation. You're going away
for a week, your mail, your newspaper, the delivery from
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the milkman, if you are lucky enough to still have
that luxury. A lot of people don't do that anymore,
but Bruce speak to that issue and tell people how
they should be careful around those issues. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, we've talked about this in the past where
you know, you mentioned a few things or anything that
you should do. If you haven't trust the neighbor, you
want them to watch your house. You always want to
make it look like your house has lived in And
I know you over the years have talked about. You know,
maybe you have some toys or something. You know, your
kids may be a little bit older, but you have
some toys outside that you don't mind. The you know, uh,
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the right if you don't mind, have a couple of
those gets stolen our you know, the weather blows it
away as them. But you know, you want to make
you want people to believe that you're inside that house
and that there's activity going in there. I always recommend
you can get yourself a radio, a battery operated radio,
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and you want to maybe put that radio on at
a sound that if somebody comes to your back door
somewhere near your house, they can hear this. You don't
want to make it too loud because if too loud,
you know, someone might right. Not only that, but someone
might say, hey, listen, this is just a ruse to
h you know, for to believe that someone's actually staying
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in there. So you want to make it believable and
plausible enough that if somebody comes to your door, rings
the belt to see if someone's home, or they just
walk up to that back door, they hear something and
then they assume that someone's inside the house. There's always
the motion detective lights inside the houses where actually on
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the outside of the houses, but they have the timers
on the inside where you can have certain lights turn
on at a certain time. Again, why are you doing that?
You want to make sure that someone's coming to your
house believes that someone's in there. And if they're there
to break into your house, they're not going to because
they're assuming that someone is inside that house and they
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move on to the next house.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
What I'm about to say may sound inconsiderate, but you've
got four houses in a row. House one, house two,
House three, House four. There are bad guys out there
looking to pill for yep. If house number one looks unhospitable,
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the bad guys are going to go to house number two,
which is what you want. If your house number one,
you want the bad guys to look at your house
and say, no, something's fishy. I don't think I can
get away with what I've planned. Let me look at
your house number two. You want the bad guys to
move away from your property and look towards the next property.
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You're not wishing bad luck happen to your next door neighbor,
but you're wishing that bad luck doesn't happen to you
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And you know the other thing is and going on
that piggybacking on that you want to get to know
your neighbors. You want to have that comfortable relationship with
them that if you're going to leave your house and
you do have trust in them, and you know, you
can tell them to watch your house if there's anything there.
Like packages. Nowadays we you know, every Amazon comes to
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everybody's house, fad X ups the mail. Everybody's getting these
packages dropped off. Not so many people are ordering things online.
And you'll have people that will come up and they
see a bunch of packages right there. They know that
probably nobody's home, you know, starting to pile up outside
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your door. Only will they steal those packages, but now
they know there's nobody at home. So again you might
want to what the whether it's Amazon or one of
those companies, you might want to let them know maybe
to deliver it come or else, maybe to one of
your neighbor's homes. You would tell them that this way
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it wouldn't actually you won't have to bother them by
having them come over your house and take all the packages.
And you know, these are things I think of also
if you're going to be away from intended period of time,
you could have the items that delivered to a family
member's house doesn't have to come to your house.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, you work to five, but your uncle, your aunt,
your grandpa is home during the day. Have it to
say over the grandpa's house. Now, I've got a news
hit to take. Lieutenant Bruster Poster and I have a
few other points we're going to cover, and we're telling
you these things hopefully so you will not become a statistic.
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We don't want you to have to fill out an
insurance report. We don't want you to get bopped over
the head because somebody wants to steal your wallet. We're
trying to help you to be aware of some of
these things that are commonly happening to everybody, and we
don't want it to be you. Now, I'm about to
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take my news hit. If you want to call in
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty eight, eight, eight,
nine to nine, ten thirty. We've got a half hour
show to go here on night Side Time and Temperature
eleven thirty sixty four degrees.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Lieutenant proofs of Parthecer formerly of the City of Newton
Police Department and I Morgan White Junior having a primer primer,
depending on how you want to pronounce that word. We're
trying to teach you awareness things that you can do
to protect you and your family from being a statistic.
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You go to a funeral, you need to know there
are people who are watching the vehicles that are parked
to pay respects to a loved one who's passed on,
and they know your car is unlocked. Maybe you've left
a pocketbook in the trunk. Easy to pop the trunk
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if the car's unlocked, to get inside the car and
do it. And they do it in such a way
it's a smoothest silk operation. It's done in fifteen to
thirty seconds. Done. They've got your wallet, they've got your
credit cards or in crowds, how to protect it, especially
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ladies with a part pocket book. You'd be amazed how
easy it is for some of these people to unsnap
your purse, put the hand in there, feel for the
wallet or cash or what have you, and it's over
and done in ten seconds and you weren't even aware
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of it. We Lieutenant Bruce and I are trying to
help you. Now we lift off on vacation issues. Did
you cover everything you wanted to say?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think so Again, I you know, you want to
maybe notify your local police department that you're going to
have a closed house, and you know officers would ride by.
Nobody's gonna go up and check your doors, but they'll
go to go by and they'll you know, check on
the house to see if it works good, if there's
any and you want to tell them what type of
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vehicles that you have, they'll.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Be in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Again, trust the name a family member. Somebody could go
buy your house and check on if you're going to
be away for an extended period of time. And again,
I think one of the big things is that we
talked about it is what are you posting on social
media to letting everybody know that you're not at home.
So maybe you could wait until you come back before
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you post those nice vacation photos. But you're back in
your home, You're living there, as opposed to being thousands
of miles away, one hundreds of miles away, and everybody
knows that your home is you know, nobody's there. It's
unsecured in the sense.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I went to San Francisco for the fourth of July.
Here are the photos. We're now in the second week
of August. That's the smarter way of doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Again. It's common sense.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Years ago, I remember I was at a training and
someone said, it really is no more common sense anymore,
because what's common to you might not be common for me.
And you know, there's so many things that we talk
about for safety, and I think one thing is very
important and that we never really talk about it is
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the Internet safety. And you know, so if parents are listening,
you know, back in the nineteen eighties, there was a
side this over protectiveness of children. People were afraid that
the kids are going to get kidnapped. They want to
let them walk to school. They were driving up the school.
And this over protectiveness, believe it or not, took away
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resiliency from children. And what we find and all the
research has shown, this is a great book out there
called the Anxious Generation. They were have talks about it
is the great rewiring of the brain. So this over
protectiveness of the eighties and now like especially children bought
after nineteen ninety eight Generation Z, there's really an underprote
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activeness that parents have about what are their kids doing
on the internet. And so this is a troubling, you know,
fact that they're seeing these kids' brains are actually being rewired,
and no run and just just having kids go out
and play in the streets, play in a playground. That's
actually we had wanted, but you know, playing a playground
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or be with their friends, walk to school. We've got
to get kids off of these smartphones. And it's just
something that you know, we talk about things all the
time about safety, but you know that internet safety. Parents
aren't watching what the kids are doing online. And I
can't say how many times I've seen parents walking with
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children while the parents looking at the cell phone and
they're walking out into the middle of traffic, you know,
like all of a sudden, like the horn and they
have to jump back. So, you know, you got to
get to get your face out of those smartphones when
you're walking your children. And you just said to actually
pay attention to your children and see what I'll be
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doing online because there are so many things out there
that kids are always trying to be, uh, you know,
alured into something that from.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Another perspective, everybody out there on the internet online is
and I'll make it as generic as possible. Five foot six,
blonde and beautiful. Right, necessarily you could be go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was just say, if you listeners don't know me,
you just describe me.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I digress and they're all twenty six years old or
they're all seventeen years old, and nothing could be further
from the truth. The bad guy actually know how to lie.
They know how to misrepresent themselves, their description, whether it's
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fudging with their age or their look, height, their resume
lines about what they have done, what they do, how
they earn their living, what they drive. They know how
to lie. They know what to say that is casting
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their fishing line on the waters and hope to hook
our kids, your kids. And if you have a teenage
daughter and she's fifteen, sixteen years old and she's reading
what she thinks is a description of a seventeen eighteen
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year old boy, that could be a forty five year
old quote unquote, dirty old man. You need to make
sure your kids have been given enough smarts to be
able to sift through what they see and not fall
for the traps that people lay out there.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Absolutely, not only that, but you hit it right on
the head. I couldn't have said that any better. And
what's interesting is that the research is so clear now
that between two fifteen, the rate of suicide among young
girls even young boys have started up tremendously. The anxiety,
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the oppression, the hopelessness, the helplessness, the uselessness of these
children that they're feeling is a disconnect. You know, there's
something called a tune and this atonement. When you're a
young child and you know, you you smile at your parents,
you might be in the crib, your parent smiles back,
and so it starts at a young age. Yeah, you
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can learn facial expressions, you can you know, how to
read people see and what the inson that's doing is
excuse me, what the internet's doing? And this, uh, it's
my phone. Use it's taken away that and so there
is no more free play. There is no more you know,
going out and you know, uh, going down the playground
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and you know, scraping on your knees because your parents
are there making sure that you're not running too hot.
And you know, so the research is right. You gotta
what kids be kids. They've got to learn how to fail.
They have to learn resiliency. And this is probably the
greatest uh. I would say, not as an expert, but
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from what I've been reading and I've been trying to study, it,
probably among the greatest threats right now to our children.
All these they know that in two thousand and nine,
when Facebook came up with a like button, well, that's
stunted kids. You know, somebody will post a picture and
you know, one of their friends may post a picture
of a vacation and they'll get two hundred likes, and
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then somebody else will post one and they get three likes,
and you know, this brings people into the depression. They
are comparing themselves all the time right others, and it's
a very bad and dangerous situation that you know. Years ago,
you and I remember when there was cigarette commercials, but
they banned those because they were dangerous.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I tell people all the time, would you drive a
cod down a side street one hundred miles an hour?
And they say no, it's dangerous, And I say, well
you would you smoke cigarettes?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But yet these children are going on these smartphones and
it's not a healthy situation when what they recommend is
you know, some of the research. Don't give you a
child a smartphone until at least they're fourteen years of age,
and don't let them on old tell them sixteen.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Right, let me take my last break of the hour.
We've got a phone call, and we'll only have like
ten minutes a show to go once we come back
from this break. Time and temperature eleven forty five sixty
four degrees.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
This is night Side. I am Morgan, that's my buddy,
Lieutenant Rusupotheca, and this is David calling oy all the
way from San Francisco. David, welcome to our conversation.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Oh thanks Morgan and your guest. He's bringing up some
pretty good int issues. I've listened to his speeches by
Ralph Nader talking about giving children cell phones and letting
them look at television endlessly from the earliest ages, and
it does very much distort their lives. They don't have
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the ability to just the ability for muscle movement or
cognitive development, making mistakes without being public about it. But
one of the advantages to things like cell phone technology
(33:24):
or the Internet. It's definitely a double edged sword, because
I've been hearing the cell towers are actually making eggs
more fragile. So the birds are dying off because their
eggs are becoming more fragile, and a lot of insects. Yeah,
(33:46):
well that's been discussed for many years, twenty thirty years.
But the idea I work with hazardous wastes, you know,
nuclear waste clean up, things like that, and things like
cell technology gives us the ability to see what's going
on while not being in proximity to the radiation, and
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so their advantages, but they're definitely disadvantages. And when you
just look at it as we're we're having children being
born into a totally artificial world. They don't know the
norms of of the old, of the established, you know,
laws of nature, and they take for granted the laws
(34:29):
of the fake world, the artificial world. And so if
the fake world falls apart, if the electricity goes out, Uh,
you know, are the kids prepared to look to putting
together a garden or you know, foraging what foods to
eat and what not to eat. Yeah, it's we're we're
(34:51):
in a hell of a trap, and it's uh, the
sooner we can allow the schools to teach. You know,
I'm old enough to remember when HOMEC was taught, when
Driver's ed was taught. A lot of schools, yeah, a
lot of schools don't teach these things anymore because of insurance.
And so whole generations are being denied the standards of physics,
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and they're they're not able to have a developed future
because they're so under equipped.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Ruh, well again, you know this is more specific. You know, obviously,
the uh, the smartphone, it's a computer in your hand.
It's more powerful than the old computer rooms at M
I T years ago, and it's a great tool. However,
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the kids, and again the research is so quite clear
that Generation Z kids won after ninety eight. Now, you
and I and the call. You know, we could we
could go on and we could spend hours on social media.
And because our brains have already been developed, we've already
had our neuron and the synapsters of those neurons. You know,
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it's it's pretty well defined what we are. But these
young kids, uh again, the the exponential growth of suicides
among young girls young boys are starting to rise up again.
The anxiety, the depression that hit this generation, the uselessness
that they feel, the hopelessness, the helplessness. These are things
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that have been you know, through evidence based research that
it's uh, it's it's reaching a zenus of concern, but
no one's sounding the alarm. And there are a few
people out there and they're looking at these things and
that's why they're doing the research on it. But again,
I think a lot of parents, what they'll do is
(36:51):
they'll they'll give a youngster a smartphone or a tabletist
and it's it's like a babysitter. And I don't think
that they feel I don't think that you know, nobody's
going to harm their child, obviously, and no one wants
to harm their child. But sometimes this information, you know,
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has to be given up there. And I think you'll
see at some point to be social scientists that will
be talking about and you'll see congressional hearings about how
are we gonna put wanting labels on these things? You know,
don't kids use these things until certain ages. I know
one of the things they're recommending is every school take
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take those smartphones with me the kids in the moment
they walk in the door again fourteen years old, they
would I.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Really, I really wish they would. And you want to
know something, No One, three hundred and fifty million people
in the United States, everybody that's above the age of six, seven,
ten years old, no one thinks that a calamity is
going to befall them. No one thinks that they're going
(38:01):
to be bumped over the head and robbed. No one
thinks that somebody is going to burst through their front
door and hurt them. Until it happens, it does happen.
We're talking about how to protect yourself and to be
aware to keep these things from happening to you and
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your children. And I'm gonna give a weird example. When
I was a kid, I believed in Santa Claus until
the third grade. Why because I wasn't spoiled. I didn't
have the pressure of the real world destroying my innocence
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to believe quote unquote in that fairy tale. But now
kids that are in kindergarten necessarily aren't allowed to believe,
and that says something about our society.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I'm not sure if I follow you in some ways,
you know your conversation is getting into absolutism as opposed
to just you know, there there are advantages, but they're
definitely disadvantages. And so it's you know, the as you mentioned,
babysitting with a cell phone is is a real flaw.
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It used to be the kids just went out and
danced in circles in the front yard, as opposed to
you know, looking at nineteen murders a day on TV.
So it's you know, getting to learn the real laws
of physics as opposed to and getting the muscle strength
to be able to perform the laws of physics like
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dancing in circles or something. Is you know, is what
children are supposed to be doing at an early age,
getting the muscle strength to be able to, you know,
as their bodies get bigger, they have to they're growing
at such a fast pace their muscles are They're big,
double in size in a matter of a few years,
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and so they have to have this constant muscles development
and cognitive development to be able to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, but the fact look at the playgrounds, everybody, you
got a playground in your neighborhood. Next time we drive
by it, how occupied is it? Are there two three,
four kids out there? Are there a dozen or so
kids out there? The playgrounds where we used to send
our kids to enjoy to exercise. Aren't as occupied as
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they used to be. Why the kids are inside playing
on the computer, playing on the cell phone. And you know,
as I look at the time, I am almost out
of time. So David, we got to bring this conversation
tun in. Thank you for calling. And Lieutenant Bruce, you
know I appreciate every time I have you on.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
So you know I've never refuse you. Or you're listening
as Morgan for people you're listening that don't know Morgan,
he's the He's just a great guy as you all
know as you listen to him, and we all love him,
uh with everything he does, the King of Trivia.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, thank you, the master of.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
The radio wheelwaves.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'll have you on coming up in the fall, you
know that. Thank you, Lieutenant. Good night, good night Allison
and Krim, Thank you, Bill Dial, thank you, Susan Bragman,
thank you. They were my guests tonight and Lieutenant Bruce
a posseeker. I'm on tomorrow night toe for Ellis, Matt
(41:55):
Hannah and Jack Cart will be my guests now that
I've told you all that special thanks to my buddy.
They're at Beezy Central Rob Brooks. He's the one who
makes the show go And sitting next to me, Nancy,
and lying on the floor is Gray. All of you
who listened and or participated with the show, I thank
(42:17):
you for sticking with me, specially filling in for Dan.
A lot of people say, oh, dance, no on, I'm
turning off the radio. So those of you who stayed
I appreciate that. And on that note, until tomorrow Night
by Boston
I'm going Boston. Thank you, Dan. Final hour of Night
Side has arrived. It's been a busy night and I've
still got get up and go enough to do one
more hour of show. And I'm on tomorrow night as well,
my last night Side of the week. Tofa Ellis will
(00:24):
be here with me tomorrow at eight o'clock. We'll be
talking about our favorite breakfast cereals, and Matt Hannah, local musician,
will be with me after we deal with Tofa and Breakfast,
and Jack Hart will be here for two hours giving
us a tour around Boston. So now that I've told
(00:44):
you that this gentleman, I am proud to say is
a friend. He used to be in charge of the
City of Newton. As far as being a policeman, he
was a lieutenant, and as I mentioned before, I took
the break. Once you have achieved a rank a title
(01:05):
that is yours for the rest of your life. He
is retired from the City of Newton Police Department, but
he is still a lieutenant in my eyes. Lieutenant Bruce Apothecar,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
To BZ Well Morgan, thank you for having me as always,
and I want to say, hey, do your listeners and
to all the officers are anybody in uniform tonight. I
wish you were safe and a healthy night, and make
sure you get home safe.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I want to tell you something, my son. I'm
not going to say the community. He moved down to
the Carolinas. That'll keep it generic enough, but he's working
as a spokesperson for one of the police departments down there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Really. Yes, I always enjoyed my interactions with him, always
a true professional, and I was sorry to see him
leave the area.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, well that's where he is now. And I told
him if ever he needed guidance with a question dealing
with the relations between the police department and the community,
he should call you. And he said, Dad, you.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's say quite an honor coming from you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I have written down five different areas where we
can take our conversation for people to pay attention, to
be careful out there, to quote Hill Street Blues, because
there are a lot of dastardly people and all they
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want to do is take what is yours, and you
don't want them to take what's yours because you've worked
hard for everything that you have. And I'm going to
start off with funerals, and there are of a roads
dealing with funerals. When it's announced in the obituaries of
(03:07):
a newspaper that Joe Smith died and the services are
going to be on Friday at wherever, there are people
that scan the papers and that gives them an indication
of maybe a house that will be unoccupied, or they
(03:31):
want to go to a certain cemetery. And you know
of these dastardly people that prey on the vehicles that
are there at a cemetery. Tell people about some of
the the scams that happen when you are saying goodbye
(03:53):
to a loved one and your car is now unguarded,
unwatched for a period of time.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, as we always say, for a crime to happen,
two things need to be You need motive, an opportunity.
And like you said, when there's a obituary posted and
that someone passed away, a loved one and he gives
out the information on the family, people would take advantage
of that and maybe breaking someone's home, or like you said,
(04:25):
they can go into a vehicle. You know, this is
an old type of scheme that's been happening. I know,
I remember the old Dragnet shows. I remember watching it
that it was occurring on a dragnet show from the sixties.
So it's something that's been out there, and I've actually
worked a couple of details. I was hired by people
over the years to watch their homes when they either
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went to awake or they were going to a funeral
of a loved one. But it's something again that you
want to just you know, it's the same thing when
people go on vacation and they post on social media
and they got their pictures that they're, you know, somewhere
someplace tropical skiing for the weekend, and now they've just
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told everybody that they're not hold And this would make
something that the opportunity would be there for someone who
wanted to bring into.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
A house and from the activity at a cemetery ladies,
and this works for everybody, but I'm specifically addressing women.
You leave your pocket book in the car, but you
leave the car unlocked, or you think you're protecting the
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pocketbook and you put it in the trunk out of sight,
out of mind, but the car is unlocked, and there's
a little switch either by the seat or in the
glove compartment that releases the lock on the truck. And
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the bad guys know this, and the bad guys take
advantage of it, and more often than not, you only
attend a funeral a handful of times in your life.
Be aware. Lock the car. If you want to leave
belongings in the car, fine, but lock the car and
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take your keys with you. That way, they can't get
into the car, flip the latch to open the trunk.
Am I right, Bruce?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Absolutely? And you know this not only goes with you know,
if someone loved one pass away, if you're attending a funeral,
but it also, you know, is dependent upon you doing
this every night when you get home. You know, for
many years, when I used to do all the media,
I can't say how many times a year we would
(06:58):
put out something either in the news, who's on social
media and reminding people to lock the doors of their
vehicles and remove all valuables, you know, because like you said,
you know, nowadays, with these new vehicles, you push a button,
the trunk's gonna open, so it's really removing your valuables
out of your vehicle. And I can, if I remember correctly,
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I think it was somewhere around ninety seven percent of
all car breakings we had years ago. Was all because
of an unlocked door. Yeah, and if the only time
that they probably would break a window if the door
was locked is if they saw something of value in
that vehicle. So, no matter what you do, every time
you make it happen of it. You take all your vehicle,
(07:43):
your valuables, you'll remove them for your vehicle. And if
you lock your door, what's gonna happen? If they're gonna
move on down they see your car, there's nothing near
the doors are locked, and they'll move on to your
neighbor's cards.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And I'm gonna say this. You drive through Dunkin Donuts,
you buy your coffee, you give them a five dollar bill,
you get back, you know, a couple of bills and change,
and you leave it there in the coin cup space
in the car, and you forget about it. That's now
visible and you're thinking, Oh, who is going to break
(08:17):
into my car to take a dollar in change? Twelve thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen year old kids, that's who. And they know that
they can go from vehicle to vehicle to vehicle look
in and see that, and they know that if they
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break into enough vehicles, they've got the money that they need.
For what have you, whether it's drugs or the ability
to go to a movie, you are giving them temptation.
Remove the temptation. I've got to take my break. When
we come back, I've got three or four more areas
(09:00):
to cover with Lieutenant Bruce of Pothaka, formerly of the
City of Newton. You noticed how I emphasized that Bruce
the city. I hear them, So if you want to
call in add to the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty.
This is night Side. Dan is off. He'll be back
(09:22):
on Monday. I'm here tonight and I'll be here tomorrow. Me.
I'm Morgan White, Junior. Time and temperature eleven sixteen sixty
four degrees.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Morgan, I'm here with my buddy, Lieutenant Bruce Apothecer. We're
talking about, especially during the summer, things from which you
should be aware, and I'm going to talk about crowds.
There was a football game today, Patriots one. From what
I hear, seventeen to three. And if you're in a
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crowd waiting to get in and thousands of people around you.
Femway Park, Foxborough at the beach. That is ripe pickings
for you to be pickpocketed. These pickpockets either work alone
(10:31):
or in teams. And that casual little bump as somebody's
trying to squeeze by you, that impact of their body
coming into contact with you. They've learned the time that
bump so well that their hand goes for your wallet
and you don't even know that they've lifted your wallet.
(10:54):
And Lieutenant Bruce, you want to speak to that police.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, so you raise a good issue here more and
same time, you're in sort of a crowded situation, whether
you're in a you know, a stadium, at a subway,
you're walking through downtown somewhere, and you know the people
are getting close to here. You know what you want
to do is you know they have these different the
(11:20):
old fanny packs. They know some people would keep them
in front of them. They keep their arm over it.
You could have a front pocket. You keep your hands
on your money inside your pockets, but you know it's
probably not a good idea. Sometimes when you're around a
lot of people, you have some sort of wallet or
something in your back pocket because these people are professionals
and they can lift that wallet right out of your
(11:42):
pocket without you even knowing it. So you always want
to have control over something, whether it's in your front pockets,
with your hands in your pockets, to just hold on
to that I have some sort of money belt that
they have. You know, these are things that we're having
these conversations tonight to tell people that it's common sense.
We know, you know these things exist, that's happened in
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the past, and so you're just being aware of, you know,
these type of things. When you leave the house, you
know where you're going. You're gonna go to the grocery store.
I can't tell you how many times we used to
take reports at one of the grocery stores in Newton
that people would get to the register and the wallet
wanted to be in the poker book. And then you know,
(12:25):
as they uh go over the story with us with
taking the reports, you know, we find out that they
left their Parker books and the carriage right and then
you know they went over to uh look at the
fruit or they're you know, looking at the apples, they're
putting something in a bag, and that's when somebody's opening
up that pocket book and removing that wallet. So always
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have eyes on your money, and you know, never leave
anything in a carriage, especially if you're not going to
have your eyes on it all the time. And you know,
one thing, just you know you mentioned Duncan Donuts before
with the change and things like that. I can't tell
you how many times over the years, you know, somebody will,
especially now with the mobile orders. It's a hot day,
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it's a cold day, they run in, they keep the
car running, and you know these it's right for someone
you know, getting into your vehicle stealing things right out
of your vehicle as you're inside. Those who are actually
stealing your vehicle yep. And so again, first of all,
if it's someone fracting to your motor vehicle running, you know,
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we do not in the vehicle, so you could, you know,
you're subject to getting a ticket. And you know if
your kai gets solen, you know that's something that your
insurance company actually might say, well listen, you know you
didn't have the car secured. You actually kept it running,
and so it's just something that common sense always prevails.
You know, we're still in August, so hot weather, you know,
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Thank god. I haven't seen any reports of any children,
you know, recently being listening of vehicle. I saw was
a port the other day about two dogs up and
at them that had been left out on the heat.
But you know what, you gotta make sure your parent,
your grandparents, if you're dropping some kids off for someone
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you know, you leave that vehicle on a hot day,
you got to always look make sure that you know
those children are not left on the vehicle alone, because
as we know, within seconds on a hot day that
God tempers you can go over one hundred and twenty
very easily.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And that goes for pets. I had a person on
last night talking about just that, how quickly a seventy
degree day becomes one hundred and ten to twenty. In
the car if the windows wound up, there's no way
of conditioning. And whether you're talking about your collie or
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your four or five six year old son daughter.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yep, do that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Home or take them with you, or if you have
to leave a kid in the car, leave the windows
down as a last resort. That's better than winding up
the windows and leaving the kid in for the quick
ten minutes that you're running into the store.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and like you said, two of the pets. You know,
we've seen it over the years. We've had many officers
responsor to those type of calls over the years where
a person left the pad inside the vehicle. Again, we're
talking about these things, and I'm glad you know we
are that simple things that sometimes people forget about, but
these are the things that make the headlines when someone's
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not thinking and something tragically happens.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right, let's switch to vacations. And there are so
many different specifics that I'm going to have Ruth speak
to on the subject of taking vacation. You're going away
for a week, your mail, your newspaper, the delivery from
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the milkman, if you are lucky enough to still have
that luxury. A lot of people don't do that anymore,
but Bruce speak to that issue and tell people how
they should be careful around those issues. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, we've talked about this in the past where
you know, you mentioned a few things or anything that
you should do. If you haven't trust the neighbor, you
want them to watch your house. You always want to
make it look like your house has lived in And
I know you over the years have talked about. You know,
maybe you have some toys or something. You know, your
kids may be a little bit older, but you have
some toys outside that you don't mind. The you know, uh,
(16:52):
the right if you don't mind, have a couple of
those gets stolen our you know, the weather blows it
away as them. But you know, you want to make
you want people to believe that you're inside that house
and that there's activity going in there. I always recommend
you can get yourself a radio, a battery operated radio,
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and you want to maybe put that radio on at
a sound that if somebody comes to your back door
somewhere near your house, they can hear this. You don't
want to make it too loud because if too loud,
you know, someone might right. Not only that, but someone
might say, hey, listen, this is just a ruse to
h you know, for to believe that someone's actually staying
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in there. So you want to make it believable and
plausible enough that if somebody comes to your door, rings
the belt to see if someone's home, or they just
walk up to that back door, they hear something and
then they assume that someone's inside the house. There's always
the motion detective lights inside the houses where actually on
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the outside of the houses, but they have the timers
on the inside where you can have certain lights turn
on at a certain time. Again, why are you doing that?
You want to make sure that someone's coming to your
house believes that someone's in there. And if they're there
to break into your house, they're not going to because
they're assuming that someone is inside that house and they
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move on to the next house.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
What I'm about to say may sound inconsiderate, but you've
got four houses in a row. House one, house two,
House three, House four. There are bad guys out there
looking to pill for yep. If house number one looks unhospitable,
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the bad guys are going to go to house number two,
which is what you want. If your house number one,
you want the bad guys to look at your house
and say, no, something's fishy. I don't think I can
get away with what I've planned. Let me look at
your house number two. You want the bad guys to
move away from your property and look towards the next property.
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You're not wishing bad luck happen to your next door neighbor,
but you're wishing that bad luck doesn't happen to you
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And you know the other thing is and going on
that piggybacking on that you want to get to know
your neighbors. You want to have that comfortable relationship with
them that if you're going to leave your house and
you do have trust in them, and you know, you
can tell them to watch your house if there's anything there.
Like packages. Nowadays we you know, every Amazon comes to
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everybody's house, fad X ups the mail. Everybody's getting these
packages dropped off. Not so many people are ordering things online.
And you'll have people that will come up and they
see a bunch of packages right there. They know that
probably nobody's home, you know, starting to pile up outside
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your door. Only will they steal those packages, but now
they know there's nobody at home. So again you might
want to what the whether it's Amazon or one of
those companies, you might want to let them know maybe
to deliver it come or else, maybe to one of
your neighbor's homes. You would tell them that this way
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it wouldn't actually you won't have to bother them by
having them come over your house and take all the packages.
And you know, these are things I think of also
if you're going to be away from intended period of time,
you could have the items that delivered to a family
member's house doesn't have to come to your house.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, you work to five, but your uncle, your aunt,
your grandpa is home during the day. Have it to
say over the grandpa's house. Now, I've got a news
hit to take. Lieutenant Bruster Poster and I have a
few other points we're going to cover, and we're telling
you these things hopefully so you will not become a statistic.
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We don't want you to have to fill out an
insurance report. We don't want you to get bopped over
the head because somebody wants to steal your wallet. We're
trying to help you to be aware of some of
these things that are commonly happening to everybody, and we
don't want it to be you. Now, I'm about to
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take my news hit. If you want to call in
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty eight, eight, eight,
nine to nine, ten thirty. We've got a half hour
show to go here on night Side Time and Temperature
eleven thirty sixty four degrees.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Lieutenant proofs of Parthecer formerly of the City of Newton
Police Department and I Morgan White Junior having a primer primer,
depending on how you want to pronounce that word. We're
trying to teach you awareness things that you can do
to protect you and your family from being a statistic.
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You go to a funeral, you need to know there
are people who are watching the vehicles that are parked
to pay respects to a loved one who's passed on,
and they know your car is unlocked. Maybe you've left
a pocketbook in the trunk. Easy to pop the trunk
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if the car's unlocked, to get inside the car and
do it. And they do it in such a way
it's a smoothest silk operation. It's done in fifteen to
thirty seconds. Done. They've got your wallet, they've got your
credit cards or in crowds, how to protect it, especially
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ladies with a part pocket book. You'd be amazed how
easy it is for some of these people to unsnap
your purse, put the hand in there, feel for the
wallet or cash or what have you, and it's over
and done in ten seconds and you weren't even aware
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of it. We Lieutenant Bruce and I are trying to
help you. Now we lift off on vacation issues. Did
you cover everything you wanted to say?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think so Again, I you know, you want to
maybe notify your local police department that you're going to
have a closed house, and you know officers would ride by.
Nobody's gonna go up and check your doors, but they'll
go to go by and they'll you know, check on
the house to see if it works good, if there's
any and you want to tell them what type of
(23:54):
vehicles that you have, they'll.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Be in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Again, trust the name a family member. Somebody could go
buy your house and check on if you're going to
be away for an extended period of time. And again,
I think one of the big things is that we
talked about it is what are you posting on social
media to letting everybody know that you're not at home.
So maybe you could wait until you come back before
(24:20):
you post those nice vacation photos. But you're back in
your home, You're living there, as opposed to being thousands
of miles away, one hundreds of miles away, and everybody
knows that your home is you know, nobody's there. It's
unsecured in the sense.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I went to San Francisco for the fourth of July.
Here are the photos. We're now in the second week
of August. That's the smarter way of doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Again. It's common sense.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Years ago, I remember I was at a training and
someone said, it really is no more common sense anymore,
because what's common to you might not be common for me.
And you know, there's so many things that we talk
about for safety, and I think one thing is very
important and that we never really talk about it is
(25:12):
the Internet safety. And you know, so if parents are listening,
you know, back in the nineteen eighties, there was a
side this over protectiveness of children. People were afraid that
the kids are going to get kidnapped. They want to
let them walk to school. They were driving up the school.
And this over protectiveness, believe it or not, took away
(25:35):
resiliency from children. And what we find and all the
research has shown, this is a great book out there
called the Anxious Generation. They were have talks about it
is the great rewiring of the brain. So this over
protectiveness of the eighties and now like especially children bought
after nineteen ninety eight Generation Z, there's really an underprote
(26:00):
activeness that parents have about what are their kids doing
on the internet. And so this is a troubling, you know,
fact that they're seeing these kids' brains are actually being rewired,
and no run and just just having kids go out
and play in the streets, play in a playground. That's
actually we had wanted, but you know, playing a playground
(26:21):
or be with their friends, walk to school. We've got
to get kids off of these smartphones. And it's just
something that you know, we talk about things all the
time about safety, but you know that internet safety. Parents
aren't watching what the kids are doing online. And I
can't say how many times I've seen parents walking with
(26:43):
children while the parents looking at the cell phone and
they're walking out into the middle of traffic, you know,
like all of a sudden, like the horn and they
have to jump back. So, you know, you got to
get to get your face out of those smartphones when
you're walking your children. And you just said to actually
pay attention to your children and see what I'll be
(27:06):
doing online because there are so many things out there
that kids are always trying to be, uh, you know,
alured into something that from.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Another perspective, everybody out there on the internet online is
and I'll make it as generic as possible. Five foot six,
blonde and beautiful. Right, necessarily you could be go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was just say, if you listeners don't know me,
you just describe me.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I digress and they're all twenty six years old or
they're all seventeen years old, and nothing could be further
from the truth. The bad guy actually know how to lie.
They know how to misrepresent themselves, their description, whether it's
(28:08):
fudging with their age or their look, height, their resume
lines about what they have done, what they do, how
they earn their living, what they drive. They know how
to lie. They know what to say that is casting
(28:33):
their fishing line on the waters and hope to hook
our kids, your kids. And if you have a teenage
daughter and she's fifteen, sixteen years old and she's reading
what she thinks is a description of a seventeen eighteen
(28:57):
year old boy, that could be a forty five year
old quote unquote, dirty old man. You need to make
sure your kids have been given enough smarts to be
able to sift through what they see and not fall
for the traps that people lay out there.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Absolutely, not only that, but you hit it right on
the head. I couldn't have said that any better. And
what's interesting is that the research is so clear now
that between two fifteen, the rate of suicide among young
girls even young boys have started up tremendously. The anxiety,
(29:49):
the oppression, the hopelessness, the helplessness, the uselessness of these
children that they're feeling is a disconnect. You know, there's
something called a tune and this atonement. When you're a
young child and you know, you you smile at your parents,
you might be in the crib, your parent smiles back,
and so it starts at a young age. Yeah, you
(30:11):
can learn facial expressions, you can you know, how to
read people see and what the inson that's doing is
excuse me, what the internet's doing? And this, uh, it's
my phone. Use it's taken away that and so there
is no more free play. There is no more you know,
going out and you know, uh, going down the playground
(30:31):
and you know, scraping on your knees because your parents
are there making sure that you're not running too hot.
And you know, so the research is right. You gotta
what kids be kids. They've got to learn how to fail.
They have to learn resiliency. And this is probably the
greatest uh. I would say, not as an expert, but
(30:53):
from what I've been reading and I've been trying to study, it,
probably among the greatest threats right now to our children.
All these they know that in two thousand and nine,
when Facebook came up with a like button, well, that's
stunted kids. You know, somebody will post a picture and
you know, one of their friends may post a picture
of a vacation and they'll get two hundred likes, and
(31:15):
then somebody else will post one and they get three likes,
and you know, this brings people into the depression. They
are comparing themselves all the time right others, and it's
a very bad and dangerous situation that you know. Years ago,
you and I remember when there was cigarette commercials, but
they banned those because they were dangerous.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I tell people all the time, would you drive a
cod down a side street one hundred miles an hour?
And they say no, it's dangerous, And I say, well
you would you smoke cigarettes?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But yet these children are going on these smartphones and
it's not a healthy situation when what they recommend is
you know, some of the research. Don't give you a
child a smartphone until at least they're fourteen years of age,
and don't let them on old tell them sixteen.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Right, let me take my last break of the hour.
We've got a phone call, and we'll only have like
ten minutes a show to go once we come back
from this break. Time and temperature eleven forty five sixty
four degrees.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
This is night Side. I am Morgan, that's my buddy,
Lieutenant Rusupotheca, and this is David calling oy all the
way from San Francisco. David, welcome to our conversation.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Oh thanks Morgan and your guest. He's bringing up some
pretty good int issues. I've listened to his speeches by
Ralph Nader talking about giving children cell phones and letting
them look at television endlessly from the earliest ages, and
it does very much distort their lives. They don't have
(33:04):
the ability to just the ability for muscle movement or
cognitive development, making mistakes without being public about it. But
one of the advantages to things like cell phone technology
(33:24):
or the Internet. It's definitely a double edged sword, because
I've been hearing the cell towers are actually making eggs
more fragile. So the birds are dying off because their
eggs are becoming more fragile, and a lot of insects. Yeah,
(33:46):
well that's been discussed for many years, twenty thirty years.
But the idea I work with hazardous wastes, you know,
nuclear waste clean up, things like that, and things like
cell technology gives us the ability to see what's going
on while not being in proximity to the radiation, and
(34:07):
so their advantages, but they're definitely disadvantages. And when you
just look at it as we're we're having children being
born into a totally artificial world. They don't know the
norms of of the old, of the established, you know,
laws of nature, and they take for granted the laws
(34:29):
of the fake world, the artificial world. And so if
the fake world falls apart, if the electricity goes out, Uh,
you know, are the kids prepared to look to putting
together a garden or you know, foraging what foods to
eat and what not to eat. Yeah, it's we're we're
(34:51):
in a hell of a trap, and it's uh, the
sooner we can allow the schools to teach. You know,
I'm old enough to remember when HOMEC was taught, when
Driver's ed was taught. A lot of schools, yeah, a
lot of schools don't teach these things anymore because of insurance.
And so whole generations are being denied the standards of physics,
(35:17):
and they're they're not able to have a developed future
because they're so under equipped.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Ruh, well again, you know this is more specific. You know, obviously,
the uh, the smartphone, it's a computer in your hand.
It's more powerful than the old computer rooms at M
I T years ago, and it's a great tool. However,
(35:46):
the kids, and again the research is so quite clear
that Generation Z kids won after ninety eight. Now, you
and I and the call. You know, we could we
could go on and we could spend hours on social media.
And because our brains have already been developed, we've already
had our neuron and the synapsters of those neurons. You know,
(36:09):
it's it's pretty well defined what we are. But these
young kids, uh again, the the exponential growth of suicides
among young girls young boys are starting to rise up again.
The anxiety, the depression that hit this generation, the uselessness
that they feel, the hopelessness, the helplessness. These are things
(36:31):
that have been you know, through evidence based research that
it's uh, it's it's reaching a zenus of concern, but
no one's sounding the alarm. And there are a few
people out there and they're looking at these things and
that's why they're doing the research on it. But again,
I think a lot of parents, what they'll do is
(36:51):
they'll they'll give a youngster a smartphone or a tabletist
and it's it's like a babysitter. And I don't think
that they feel I don't think that you know, nobody's
going to harm their child, obviously, and no one wants
to harm their child. But sometimes this information, you know,
(37:11):
has to be given up there. And I think you'll
see at some point to be social scientists that will
be talking about and you'll see congressional hearings about how
are we gonna put wanting labels on these things? You know,
don't kids use these things until certain ages. I know
one of the things they're recommending is every school take
(37:34):
take those smartphones with me the kids in the moment
they walk in the door again fourteen years old, they
would I.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Really, I really wish they would. And you want to
know something, No One, three hundred and fifty million people
in the United States, everybody that's above the age of six, seven,
ten years old, no one thinks that a calamity is
going to befall them. No one thinks that they're going
(38:01):
to be bumped over the head and robbed. No one
thinks that somebody is going to burst through their front
door and hurt them. Until it happens, it does happen.
We're talking about how to protect yourself and to be
aware to keep these things from happening to you and
(38:22):
your children. And I'm gonna give a weird example. When
I was a kid, I believed in Santa Claus until
the third grade. Why because I wasn't spoiled. I didn't
have the pressure of the real world destroying my innocence
(38:46):
to believe quote unquote in that fairy tale. But now
kids that are in kindergarten necessarily aren't allowed to believe,
and that says something about our society.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I'm not sure if I follow you in some ways,
you know your conversation is getting into absolutism as opposed
to just you know, there there are advantages, but they're
definitely disadvantages. And so it's you know, the as you mentioned,
babysitting with a cell phone is is a real flaw.
(39:28):
It used to be the kids just went out and
danced in circles in the front yard, as opposed to
you know, looking at nineteen murders a day on TV.
So it's you know, getting to learn the real laws
of physics as opposed to and getting the muscle strength
to be able to perform the laws of physics like
(39:51):
dancing in circles or something. Is you know, is what
children are supposed to be doing at an early age,
getting the muscle strength to be able to, you know,
as their bodies get bigger, they have to they're growing
at such a fast pace their muscles are They're big,
double in size in a matter of a few years,
(40:13):
and so they have to have this constant muscles development
and cognitive development to be able to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, but the fact look at the playgrounds, everybody, you
got a playground in your neighborhood. Next time we drive
by it, how occupied is it? Are there two three,
four kids out there? Are there a dozen or so
kids out there? The playgrounds where we used to send
our kids to enjoy to exercise. Aren't as occupied as
(40:51):
they used to be. Why the kids are inside playing
on the computer, playing on the cell phone. And you know,
as I look at the time, I am almost out
of time. So David, we got to bring this conversation
tun in. Thank you for calling. And Lieutenant Bruce, you
know I appreciate every time I have you on.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
So you know I've never refuse you. Or you're listening
as Morgan for people you're listening that don't know Morgan,
he's the He's just a great guy as you all
know as you listen to him, and we all love him,
uh with everything he does, the King of Trivia.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, thank you, the master of.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
The radio wheelwaves.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'll have you on coming up in the fall, you
know that. Thank you, Lieutenant. Good night, good night Allison
and Krim, Thank you, Bill Dial, thank you, Susan Bragman,
thank you. They were my guests tonight and Lieutenant Bruce
a posseeker. I'm on tomorrow night toe for Ellis, Matt
(41:55):
Hannah and Jack Cart will be my guests now that
I've told you all that special thanks to my buddy.
They're at Beezy Central Rob Brooks. He's the one who
makes the show go And sitting next to me, Nancy,
and lying on the floor is Gray. All of you
who listened and or participated with the show, I thank
(42:17):
you for sticking with me, specially filling in for Dan.
A lot of people say, oh, dance, no on, I'm
turning off the radio. So those of you who stayed
I appreciate that. And on that note, until tomorrow Night
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